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A
Good
evening
welcome
to
the
February
6th
meeting
of
the
Arlington
County
Planning
Commission
I'm
Devonshire
Patel
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Planning
Commission
tonight.
The
commission
will
consider
the
following
items:
the
Joyce
Motors
site
plan
items
for
3401,
Columbia
Pike
form-based
code
use,
permit
and
Associated
form-based
code,
zoning
ordinance
amendments,
the
Chesapeake,
Bay
preservation,
Plan
update
and
PC
business
I'd
like
to
share
a
few
logistical
points
for
those
members
or
Commissioners
participating
remotely.
We
have
one
commissioner
participating
remotely
tonight.
A
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meeting
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25
and
1085,
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39
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40,
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A
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to
the
Virginia
Freedom
of
Information
Act
requirements,
Madam
clerk
May.
Will
you
please
call
the
first
item.
B
19-003002006009
and
016
receiving
site
as
part
of
splin
19-quadruple
zero.
Six
as
described
below
for
the
purpose
of
historic
preservation.
The
sending
site
is
2952
square
feet
and
the
per
and
the
proposed
density
to
be
transferred
is
up
to
14
760
square
feet
of
gross
floor
area,
utilizing
a
multiplier
of
500
per
client
and
revitalization.
C
C
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
standing
by
good
evening.
My
name
is
Adam
Watson.
This
is
the
10th
and
Irving
Street
site
plan,
also
known
as
the
Joyce
motor
site
tonight,
I'll
be
covering
the
items
that
are
listed
here
on
the
screen.
C
That
includes
three
items
associated
with
the
site
plan,
which
the
first
two
are
associated
with
transfer
of
development
rights
from
the
Clarendon
Barber
Shop
building,
and
then
the
third
is
the
site
plan
itself
and
then
Item
B
will
be
the
ordinance
of
vacation,
as
listed
here
so
to
jump
right
in
this
site
is
located
in
Clarendon
near
the
intersection
of
North
Irving
Street
and
10th
Street
North.
It's
comprised
of
the
existing
Joyce
Motors
vehicle
service
establishment,
as
well
as
a
portion
of
the
service
parking
lot
that
previously
served
the
Silver
Diner
restaurant.
C
The
site
is
a
general
land
use
plan,
designation
of
medium
density,
mixed
use,
which
is
also
under
node
12
of
the
Clarendon
revitalization
District.
The
zoning
is
C3
General
commercial
district
and
there
are
no
proposed
changes
to
either
the
glove
designation
or
the
zoning
and
both
are
consistent
with
each
other.
C
To
just
summarize
briefly,
the
first
two
items
that
I
mentioned
pertain
to
the
excuse
me:
the
transfer
of
development
rights
for
full
building,
preservation
of
the
Clarendon
Barber
Shop
building,
which
is
located
off-site
at
1407
and
1411
North
Garfield
Street.
C
The
transfer
of
unused
density
here
is
about
14
000
square
feet
and
in
exchange
for
that,
the
applicant
will
be
recording
a
permanent,
exterior
architectural
preservation
easement
over
this
building
and,
crucially,
this
fulfills
recommendations.
Historic
excuse
me
historic
preservation,
recommendations
of
the
sector
plan
in
terms
of
the
site
plan.
C
This
is
an
11-story
residential
building
with
ground
floor
retail
totaling
5.89
far
it
has
an
underground
parking
garage
with
176
spaces
at
a
parking
ratio
of
0.64
for
for
residents,
0.05
for
residential
visitors
and
then
one
space
per
455
square
feet
for
the
retail,
the
retail
fronts
on
10th
Street,
North
By.
C
The
way
they're
also
preserving
and
relocating
the
historic
Joyce
Motors
facade
to
the
build
2
line,
as
recommended
in
the
sector
plan,
constructing
portions
of
new
10th
Road
North
to
the
north
of
this
site
and
as
the
alley
as
well,
which
is
running
north
south
on
the
west
western
side
of
the
site.
So
any
modifications
include
additional
density,
reduced
parking
and
loading
design
requirements
and
density
exclusions.
C
Lastly,
the
vacations.
This
is
area
within
an
existing
public
alley
in
public
Street
utility.
Excuse
me
street
and
utilities
easement
that
is
proposed
to
be
vacated
and
incorporated
into
the
site
plan
for
density
purposes,
jumping
into
analysis
of
this
project.
This
site
is
governed
and
guided
by
the
Clarendon
sector
plan,
which
was
very
recently
updated.
Last
year.
A
large
portion
of
this
sector
plan
is
codified
under
article
9.2
of
the
zoning
ordinance,
which
is
the
Clarendon
revitalization
District.
C
A
number
of
key
site
requirements
are
codified
and
I've
listed
some
of
them
here
in
terms
of
preservation,
again
historic,
facade,
to
be
preserved
and
relocated
to
the
build
to
line
with
a
10-foot
step
back
in
building
Mass
immediately
above
that
preserved,
facade,
additional
building
step
backs,
which
you
can
see
on
the
map.
At
the
bottom
right
hand,
side
of
the
screen
are
proposed
and
required
at
75
feet,
95
feet
with
a
maximum
Building
height
of
110
feet.
Use
mix
is
very
flexible
here.
C
Sorry
excellent,
thank
you.
In
terms
of
the
project
Evolution,
we
did
have
a
discussion
initially
with
the
original
submission
about
the
design
and
treatment
of
well,
first,
the
location
of
of
the
historic
facade
which
was
placed
just
beyond
the
build
two
lines,
and
that
resulted
in
a
loss
of
about
two
feet
of
sidewalk,
on
both
10th
Street
North
and
on
North
Irving
Street.
You
also
had
a
two-tiered
step
back
above
that
facade,
rather
than
a
single
10
foot
step
back.
All
of
those
were
inconsistent
with
the
sector
plan
recommendations.
C
However,
working
with
the
applicant
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
the
revised
proposal,
the
current
proposal
before
you
complies
completely
with
the
sector
plan.
In
this
regard,
the
facade
is
placed
at
the
build
two
lines:
the
we're
receiving
appropriate
sidewalk
widths
on
10th
and
Irving,
and
we
now
have
a
single
10
foot
step
back
above
the
facade,
which
places
greater
emphasis
on
that
historic
Frontage
looks
like
in
terms
of
zoning
and
sector
plan
compliance.
C
This
proposal
meets
all
of
the
Arlington
County's
zoning
ordinance
requirements,
which
would
include
things
such
as
preservation,
height,
step
backs,
the
use
mix,
the
streetscapes
and
the
building
placement.
It
also
furthers
all
three
overarching
goals
of
the
sector
plan
which
I've
listed
here
on
the
side
of
the
screen,
to
name
a
few,
creating
and
improving
walkable
streets
and
streetscapes,
respecting
the
architectural
Heritage
and
Clarendon
efficient
use
of
Transit
and
parking,
and
introducing
a
wider
variety
of
housing
options
in
retail
next
slide
to
earn
additional
density
for
this
site.
C
The
applicant
is
proposing
the
following
here,
which
I'll
run
through
briefly:
nine
on-site
committed,
affordable
dwelling
units,
the
majority
of
which
would
be
family
sized.
So
one
excuse
me
four
one
bedrooms,
three,
two
bedrooms
and
two
three
bedrooms
up
to
sixty
percent
Ami
for
a
term
of
30
years.
C
Additionally,
a
public
open
space,
monetary
contribution
just
over
557
thousand
dollars
in
terms
of
multimodal
Transportation
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
towards
future
planning
and
infrastructure
improvements
within
the
Clarendon.
Revitalization
District
and
construction
of
nearby
curb
extensions
at
10th,
Street
North
to
Aid
in
pedestrian
Crossing,
where
the
where
the
existing
rapid
flashing
Beacon
is
located.
In
addition,
Green
Building
incentive
policy,
this
this
project
is
vested
under
the
previous
version
of
this
policy.
So
the
applicants
come
forward
with
the
2014
version
of
this.
C
That
includes
commitment
to
lead
gold
with
15
energy,
optimization
energy,
star
appliances,
water
sense,
fixtures,
a
number
of
other
Baseline
prerequisites
from
the
new
policy
as
well
in
terms
of
historic
preservation,
again:
preservation,
restoration
and
relocation
of
that
historic
Joyce
Motors
facade
to
the
build
to
line
additional
contribution
of
up
to
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
for
a
historic
marker
or
interpretive
signage
on
site
and
fill
building
preservation
of
the
Clarendon
Barbershop
building
with
density
transferred
through
the
TDR
next
slide,
we
had
a
robust
Community
engagement
process.
C
We
had
a
kickoff
meeting
back
in
June
for
all
the
Clarendon
projects
forthcoming
to
talk
about
the
changes
to
the
sector
plan.
We
had
online
engagement
in
June
as
well,
followed
by
two
sprc
meetings
in
terms
of
commission
meetings.
The
hlrb
has
discussed
this
twice
in
September
and
November
to
talk
about
both
of
the
historic
preservation
elements
of
this
project.
C
C
So,
just
briefly,
this
this
project
really
does
advance
a
number
of
important
County
goals
and
a
variety
of
different
topics.
So
I
won't
read
all
of
this,
but
again
we're
getting
nine
on-site,
affordable
dwelling
units,
a
great
historic
preservation,
both
on
site
and
off-site
construction
implementation
of
new
streets.
That's
called
for
in
the
sector
plan
additional
activation
here
at
the
site,
with
improved
streetscapes,
Sustainable,
Building
design
and
then
again,
contributions
towards
future
planning
efforts
for
both
transportation
and
public
spaces.
C
D
Evening,
commission
members,
my
name
is
Andrew
painter
I'm,
a
zoning
attorney
at
the
law,
firm
of
Walsh
Colucci
speaking
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
or
Partners
joining
me
this
evening
from
the
Orr
family
is
David,
Orr
and
Tyler
Orr
Ryan
Orr
is
available.
Participating
virtually
seated
to
my
left
is
Kevin
Crosby.
He
is
our
project
architect
with
antonovich
Associates
Nick
Cummings
with
Walsh
gallucci
is
joining
virtually,
as
is
our
entire
design
team
who
are
available
to
answer
questions
at
the
conclusion
of
the
presentation.
D
I'll
start
off
with
a
couple
Preparatory
remarks
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Kevin
to
give
the
bulk
of
the
presentation.
But
I
will
start
off
by
expressing
my
appreciation
to
staff
for
their
hard
work.
The
number
of
Staff
persons
involved
the
length
of
the
staff
report.
The
number
of
applications
involved
is
a
testament
to
how
intricate
this
has
been.
We
have
been
at
this
project
for
over
three
years,
we
submitted
our
initial
4.1
in
October
of
2019.
D
pre-pandemic.
We
were
reformally
accepted
for
processing
in
April
of
2020,
but
the
application
was
placed
on
hold
for
over
2
years,
pending
the
outcome
of
the
clan
Clarendon
sector,
Plan
update
process,
and
fortunately
now
the
sector
plan
does
provide
clear,
unambiguous
guidance
on
a
number
of
issues,
including
how
to
measure
step
backs
Building
height
tapering,
as
well
as
what
the
proper
treatment
of
the
Joyce
Motors
resource
should
be.
As
staff
mentioned.
D
This
proposal
does
seek
to
take
a
major
step
forward
in
the
implementation
of
the
new
recommendations
of
the
sector
plan,
with
the
new
11-story
building
241
residential
units
and
approximately
3
600
square
feet
of
ground
floor.
Retail.
One
thing
I
wanted
to
highlight
is
sort
of
the
unique
nature
of
this
application
is
unique
in
a
couple
of
respects.
First
is
with
respect
to
the
land
swap
that
is
occurring
on
this
block
that
is
bound
by
North
Irving,
Street,
10th,
Street,
North
and
Wilson
Boulevard.
D
It's
a
number
of
parcels,
a
number
of
owners
and
sub-owners
the
applicant
negotiated
with
two
other
owners
and
all
of
this
all
of
their
sub
owners
over
a
period
of
year
of
a
year
to
work
out
a
way
to
develop
this
parcel
or
this
block
and
to
divide
it
into
three
developable
properties
which
you
can
see
here.
D
There
was
a
hot,
hotly
negotiated
issues
that
were
discussed,
but
there
is
a
an
Rea
that
does
cover
things
like
the
construction
of
and
maintenance
of
alleys
of
10th
Street
North,
as
well
as
the
interconnected
below
grade
parking
garage
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time.
Also
talking
about
the
unique
historic
preservation
nature
of
the
application,
we
have
approached
historic
preservation
in
three
key
areas.
The
first
one,
as
was
mentioned,
is
we
are
preserving
the
historic,
Joyce,
Motors
facade
and
incorporating
that
facade
into
the
proposed
building.
D
In
fact,
even
before
the
submission
of
our
4.1
application,
we
spent
months
working
with
historic
preservation
program
staff
to
try
to
discern
the
appropriate
way
to
preserve
the
building
and
its
materials,
given
their
condition.
The
plan
that
is
before
you
this
evening
was
developed
through
Myriad
discussions,
and
the
idea
is
to
preserve
the
most
historic
and
salvageable
portions
of
the
building
and
incorporating
them
into
the
most
visually
prominent
corner
of
the
property
after
their
restoration.
D
A
second
component
of
our
historic
preservation
approach
has
been
the
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
to
an
on-site,
interpretive
marker
explaining
the
significance
of
Joyce
Motors
and
then
the
last
component
is
the
preservation
of
the
Clarendon
Barbershop
building
through
the
use
of
the
County's
TDR
program,
which
is
a
resource
that
is
specifically
recommended
under
the
sector
plan.
So
all
told
we
are
viewing
this
as
an
exciting
opportunity
to
view
this
4.1
site
plan
application
as
a
way
to
preserve
these
two
assets
in
terms
of
housing,
affordability.
That
is
figured
prominently
into
our
overall
approach.
D
We
are
proposing
nine
on-site
cafs,
including
four
one
bedroom,
three,
two
bedroom
and
two
three
bedroom
calves
to
get
at
affordability,
especially
for
larger
households
and
families.
The
building
will
be
designed
at
the
legal
level
and,
as
was
mentioned,
we
are
proposing
a
variety
of
sidewalk
upgrades
around
the
site.
We
are
looking
to
improve
pedestrian
Crossings
across
North
Irving
Street
and
across
10th
Street
North,
and
our
parking
ratio
is
in
line
with
County
policies
for
properties
that
are
proximate
to
Metrorail.
E
Thanks
Andrew,
so
the
next
few
slides
we'll
highlight
the
the
overall
project,
renderings
and
street
views
that
have
been
updated
for
sprc
feedback.
E
Which
way-
and
this
slide
shows
the
project-
let's
go
back-
project,
location
and
boundaries,
as
well
as
the
adjacent
Bingham
Center
project
sites
to
the
South
and
across
10th
Street
North
are
two
commercial
sites
adjacent
adjacent
to
the
ash.
Nice
neighborhood.
E
This
slide
shows
the
overall
building
views
at
the
extreme
corners
of
the
project
site,
starting
at
the
top
left.
You
have
the
southeast
Corner.
That
is
a
view
looking
at
the
historic
Joyce
Motors
and
up
North
Irving
Street
to
the
top
right
is
the
North
West
corner,
which
is
a
view
on
new
10th
Road
and
from
the
Bingham
Center
Hotel
Site.
E
The
next
series
of
slides
will
zoom
in
for
sidewalk
level.
Views
you've
seen
this
image
of
the
north
of
historic
Joyce.
Motors.
Again,
we
worked
with
staff
to
address
some
of
their
concerns
about
making
sure
they
preserved
and
relocated
facades,
have
the
prominence
deserved
and
to
really
honor
the
essential
historic
significance
of
of
this
building
and
a
close-up
of
the
residential
Lobby.
Our
goal
here
was
to
make
the
residential
lobby
as
transparent
as
possible.
E
Thank
you,
A
View,
From,
10th,
Street
of
the
retail
along
that
facade.
The
sidewalk
here
is
18
feet,
which
includes
a
cafe
Zone
and
planting
zones.
So
it's
the
a
very
generous
sidewalk
that
meets
sector
plan
requirements
and
it's
about
300
3639
square
feet
of
retail
along
10th
Street.
E
So
this
is
a
close-up
view
of
the
sidewalk
along
North
Irving
Street.
This
was
a
topic
brought
up
in
sprc
about
adding
building
warmth
and
activating
North
Irving
a
little
bit
more.
What
we
did
is
we
went
back
and
looked
at
how
we
could
provide
a
little
bit
more
detail
onto
the
facade
at
the
first
two
floors
and
adding
additional
biophilic
elements
to
really
warm
up
this
connection
street
from
the
Clarendon
area,
down
to
10th
Street.
E
So
you
know
the
biophilic
design
is
is
Central
to
the
Joyce
Motors
project.
This.
This
slide
really
shows
a
all
the
site.
Biophilic
elements
that
we've
got
at
different
levels
of
the
building
you've
got
the
streetscape
with
the
the
tree,
plantings
and
planting
strips,
as
well
as
the
second
level
Terrace,
which
will
have
a
bio
retention
area
as
well
as
some
private
patios.
E
For
for
the
tenants
to
access
that
that
Courtyard
at
the
10th
level
Terrace,
we
have
additional
trees
and
plantings
that
will
bring
those
biophilic
elements
up
to
the
upper
level
of
the
building
and
then
at
the
high
roof.
Where
we
have
the
mechanical
screen
wall
we'll
have
a
large
amount
of
green
roof
area
to
help
with
the
storm
water
requirements
there
and
with
that
I
would
give
it
back
to
Andrew
to
talk
about
sustainability
and
the
other
community
benefits.
D
Thank
you
very
much
Kevin.
So,
as
was
mentioned,
this
project
is
designed
at
the
lead
goal
level
based
upon
the
prior
version
of
the
2014
Green
Building
incentive
policy.
We
are
utilizing
two
Arlington
priority
credits,
one
we're
seeking
to
do:
15,
energy,
optimization
and
two.
We
are
doing
energy
star
certification
per
our
discussion
with
staff.
D
We
have
also
committed
to
achieving
many
of
the
Baseline
prerequisites
from
the
current
policy
as
well,
which
are
shown
here:
energy,
benchmarking,
electric
vehicle
charging,
refrigerant
leakage,
biophilic
narrative,
Equity
diversity
and
inclusion
and
energy
star
appliances
before
you
is
a
list
of
the
community
benefits
that
we
are
you
or
that
we
are
proposing
in
order
to
earn
our
density
above.
The
Baseline
of
a
3.0.
Far
and
I
would
close
by
saying
that
we
have
made
substantial
changes
over
the
past
three
plus
years,
as
we've
been
at
this
and
in
final
analysis,
I.
D
Think
it's
fair
to
say
that
planning
is
all
about
a
balance.
The
approach
that
we
have
taken
in
terms
of
creativity,
I,
think,
has
been
on
the
top
of
mind
every
day
we've
been
at
this,
and
even
though
this
is
a
pretty
unique
site,
it
does
have
a
lot
of
potential.
It
has
a
lot
of
design
opportunity,
but
a
lot
of
design
responsibility
as
well.
D
We
have
shown
the
ability
to
be
creative
by
partnering,
with
our
neighbors
on
the
Alley
to
the
land,
swap
by
partnering,
with
adjacent
owners
to
preserve
the
historic
facades
and
construct
a
building
that
will
be
able
to
satisfy
so
many
of
the
County's
planning
goals,
we're
very
proud
of
this
project
and
our
entire
project
team
is
available
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
F
I'm
here
your
time
starts
now.
Thank
you
and
I
thank
the
chairman
for
allowing
you
to
speak
because
I
I
did
come
a
little
late.
The
first
Speaker
I
think
it
was
aware
of
that.
No
change
of
plans
of
three
guitar
plants,
the
sheets
of
the
landscape
plant,
show
that
this
plant
project
will
contain
Open
Spaces
with
garden
planting
tree
tip,
planting
by
retention,
planting
and
roof
planting.
However,
none
of
these
sheets
describe
the
species
of
locations
of
any
shrubs
ground
covers
and
perennials
that
the
applicant
May
plant
in
those
spaces.
F
The
applicant
needs
to
add
this
information
to
the
landscape
sheets.
Before
the
County
Board
considered
the
approval
of
the
site
plan,
it
should
have
been
before
this
meeting
I
mentioned
at
the
Cyclone
review.
For
maybe
several
times
these
additional.
These
additions
will
enable
the
cap,
the
staff
and
the
public
to
review
this
information
and
to
inform
the
board
of
any
concerns
before
or
after
the
board
meeting
to
support
the
county
board's
2017
Monarch
pledge
each
of
the
above
plantings
should
contain
species.
That's
what
pollinated
to
avoid
the
introduction
of
invasive
species.
F
All
plants
must
be
native
to
Northern
Virginia
or
at
least
to
the
Eastern
United
States,
the
planted
space
spaces.
The
plantar
spaces
should
contain
only
small
numbers
of
wind,
pollinated,
grasses
and
sedges.
Those
types
of
plants
support
relatively
few
pollinators
as
compared
to
those
that
have
flowers
that
insects
pollinate
all
planted.
Sunny
areas
should
contain
common
milkweed
except
via
syriaca.
This
is
the
only
plant
that
grows
well
and
survives
in
Arlington's
natural
areas
as
that
monarch,
butterflies
prefer.
When
laying
eggs.
F
Is
an
alternative
for
shady
areas
that
plant
lives
in
Woodlands
and
Woodland
edges?
The
project
has
does
not
provide
enough
biofilia,
even
though
the
there
is
some,
but
not
enough,
nearly
enough
to
increase
biophilia
this.
This
roof
and
all
Ledges
should
have
Planters,
with
Native
flowering
vines
that
support
pollinators.
These
should
hang
down
or
climb
up
the
bare
face
of
the
building,
particularly
the
including
the
bare
face
near
the
southeast
Corner
above
the
Joyce
mortar
facade.
That's
a
bear
of
space.
That
really
is
ugly.
F
The
the
building's
pointers
should
have
of
additionally
should
have
climbing
vines
or
ones
that
are
stand
for
the
roof
along
those
building
corners
and
between
the
windows.
Low
fences
must
survive
all
tree
pits
to
prevent,
protect
vegetation
from
trampoline.
This
is
essential.
B
G
Yes,
good
evening,
Commissioners
I'm,
majdi
shamali
with
the
climate
change,
energy
and
environment
Commission,
and
our
commission
has
reviewed
the
applicant's
documentation
and
presentation
and
site
planning
meetings,
and
we
have
submitted
a
letter
to
include
a
summary
of
our
findings
as
well
as
the
the
matrix
by
which
we
measure
the
ability
or
or
the
ability
of
the
design,
to
contribute
to
the
county
meeting
its
Community
energy
plan
goals,
and
it
is,
as
stated
in
our
letter,
it
is
clear
that
that
it
is
our
evaluation
that
this
project
does
not
meet
those
minimum
energy
and
sustainability
requirements.
G
G
The
success
of
of
Arlington
meeting,
it's
Community
energy
plan
in
the
future
depends
on
the
decisions
that
are
made
today
in
terms
of
locking
in
certain
design
features
at
this
at
this
stage
that
that
are
decisions
that
that
are
that
are
fixed
and
in
transfer
for
a
while
for
you
for
decades
to
come.
G
As
was
mentioned
earlier,
they
are
working
under
the
old
green
building
initiative
and
not
the
current
one.
We
understand
that
they
are
working
on
a
15
and
in
our
letter
we
actually
have
recommendations
as
to
areas
of
where
Improvement
could
be
made
to
improve
on
that
score
and
to
help
the
county
meet
its
its
goals.
G
Improvement
of
energy
by
15.
We
think
that
25
percent
should
over
Baseline
should
be
feasible.
We
see
the
the
the
design
locking
in
natural
gas
and
fossil
fuels
for
the
long
run.
Electrification
is
always
the
preferred
option
and
we're
not
possible.
At
least
the
design
for
electrification
in
the
future
should
be
should
be
considered.
G
We
see
the
EV
infrastructure
parking,
we
see
the
absolute
minimum
we
would
we
would.
We
would
strongly
recommend
that
they
improve
on
that
some
movement
towards
renewable
electricity,
but
not
sufficient.
G
G
So
there
is
a
lot
of
room
for
improvement
here
and
I
would
urge
that
the
applicant,
you
know,
take
a
look
at
the
areas
where
improvements
can
be
made
and
help
the
county
meet
the
the
goals
of
the
community
energy
plan.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
shamali.
The
matter
is
now
with
the
commission.
Are
there
any
reports
from
the
Commissioners
from
from
the
other
commissions?
Commissioner
Lynn
tell
me.
H
Oh
yeah,
this
was
before
the
Transportation
Commission
last
week
and
as
mentioned
by
staff,
it
was
voted
to
be
approved.
7-0
the
commission
felt
it
was
a
pretty
solid
project.
Discussion
really
was
about
the
vacation
of
the
of
the
alleys,
which
was
found
to
be
consistent
with
the
MTP.
They
are
not
on
the
on
the
master
Transportation
plan,
so
the
vacation
was
deemed
appropriate.
Parking
came
up
while
this
is
a
bit
on
the
high
side,
given
how
close
it
is
to
the
Metro.
H
The
applicant
did
state
that
they
are
still
looking
at
parking,
and
this
is
should
be
considered
a
maximum
that
it
could.
It
could
maybe
drop,
as
this
went
its
way
toward
further
approvals.
Other
than
that,
there
was
no
other
real
discussion
on
this
on
this
matter
and
as
I
mentioned,
it
was
voted
on
7-0
to
recommend.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
this
matter.
The
commissioner
Hughes
chaired
the
process
in
this,
for
this
matter,
leave
it
okay,
commissioner
Hughes,
are
you
with
us.
I
Hi,
everyone
sorry
I'm
not
able
to
join
you
all
tonight
in
person,
but
I
appreciate
each
of
you
doing
virtual.
We
did
have
this
meeting
it
this
over
the
summer
last
fall
well.
My
notes
here
for
a
second
sorry-
and
it
was
a
very
productive
meeting,
beginning
of
course,
with
the
virtual
and
online
kickoff,
following
through
with
two
subsequent
in-person
meetings
that
provided
a
substantive
Improvement
on
the
site
based
on
the
initial
submission.
I
So
I
do
want
to
thank
the
applicant
for
making
changes
based
on
the
sprc's
feedback.
I
In
the
end,
the
the
predominance
of
our
conversation
revolved
around
I'll
use
three
main
areas
of
conversation,
one
which
is
the
architecture,
the
setbacks,
the
nature
of
the
setbacks
and
how
they
build
to
The,
Pedestrian
environment,
to
the
Transportation
and
the
inter,
connected
and
blend
it
parking
garage
beneath
the
structures,
because
the
site
will
be
dependent
on
subsequent
sites
for
circulation
in
the
future
and
then
the
final
one
is,
of
course,
the
various
Community
benefits,
including
the
TBR,
which
is
the
preservation
of
the
barber
shop
and
the
Clarendon
sector
plan
and
the
various
lead
issues
around
the
submission
of
The
Proposal.
I
I
believe
those
are
the
predominant
areas
that
we
should
just
focus
our
discussion
on
this
evening,
commissioner
Michelle,
let's
find
a
fellow
commissioner,
see
otherwise
and
we've.
We
should
have
a
very
productive
conversation
on
this.
One.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
I
hope
everybody
saw
the
memo
that
was
sent
around
by
commissioner
Hughes.
The
major
areas
for
conversation
that
he's
articulated
in
his
memo
are
architecture
Transportation,
community
and
Community
benefits.
Are
there
any
other
points
that
the
guest
commissioner
gear.
J
I
Could
I
suggest
that
going
to
architecture,
it's
it's
most
related
to
the
architecture,
become
obvious
in
the
conversation.
I
I'm
sure
can
I
just
really
I
forgot
to
mention
I
do
want
to
really
quick
say.
Thank
you
to
commissioner
schroll
and
my
fellow
Commissioners
previous
to
me,
who
did
a
lot
of
heavy
lifting
with
the
sector
Plan
update,
I
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
did
not
say
that
this
particular
sdrc
Builds
on
a
long-term
Community
process
that
was
many
years
in
the
making.
So
sorry
I
want
to
make
sure
that
was
set
vertically
soon.
Thank
you.
A
J
Excellent,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
Mr
Burns
comments.
We've
heard
these
in
many
many
of
our
discussions
and
I
just
wanted
some
clarification
from
staff,
and
my
understanding
was
that
the
urban
forestry
team
reviews
the
Landscaping
plan
at
some
point
prior
to
any
planting,
is
that
correct.
J
And
I
believe
this
is
still
the
current
process,
but
we
have
a
list
of
invasive
plants
that
are
not
permitted
to
be
planted
in
the
county.
That's
correct
as
well.
Yes,
I
do
seem
to
remember
earlier
site.
Plans
sometimes
did
include
more
detailed.
Landscaping
I
also
know
that
when
we
had
discussions
about
this
at
PC,
we
were
told
that
can
be
kind
of
complicated,
because
that
means
you
have
to
put
in
orders
for
your
plants
years
in
advance
of
actually
being
prepared
to
plant
them
is.
J
C
J
C
Yeah
sure
so
I
think
it's
condition.
21
of
the
standard.
Sideline
conditions
lay
all
this
out
in
a
lot
more
detail,
but
the
basic
gist
of
it
is
is
they
are
required
to
submit
a
final
landscape
plan
which
is
even
more
detailed
than
what
we
have
here
before
us
today.
It
needs
to
first
comply
with
what
was
approved,
and
then
it
goes
into
a
lot
greater
detail
and
it
goes
to
review
not
only
through
the
urban
Forester,
but
also
through
our
Landscape
Architects
and
cphd,
as
well.
J
A
K
C
It
can
be
up
to
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
It
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
exceed
that,
but
it
will,
it
will
have.
It
will
be
subject
to
halrb
review
prior
to
approval
of
that.
So
and
then
the
applicant
may
want
to
respond
to
that
as
well.
Yeah.
D
And
just
yeah
just
to
respond
briefly,
we
had
talked
about
a
variety
of
different
things:
whether
it
was
a
plaque
whether
it
was
actual
things
and
said
in
the
concrete
sort
of
talkers
as
you're
walking
through
the
you
know,
through
the
property
or
past
the
building.
So
we
will
have
to
work
with
hlrb.
D
A
L
Yeah
I
I
want
to.
This
is
actually
a
really
good
question
that
I
think
people
often
complain
about
the
cost,
building
things
and
doing
things
so
for
my
own
benefit,
when
people
ask
me
about
it,
I
want
to
drill
down
a
little
bit
on
this.
Are
we
talking
fees?
Are
we
talking
materials?
Are
we
talking
staff
salary?
If
it's
not
fees
like
what
are
the
actual
cost
inputs
that
get
to
yeah?
L
D
My
understanding
is
it's:
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
and
that'll
be
the
hard
cost
associated
with
whatever
installation
we
come
up
with,
and
it
could
be
a
variety
of
things.
It
could
be
a
sign,
it
could
be
a
plaque,
it
could
be
the
you
know
the
the
embedded
in
the
concrete
as
you're
walking
past,
but
that's
the
amount
of
money
that
we
are
committing
to.
You
know
to
provide
for
that.
You
know
for
that
resource.
D
It's
not
staff
time,
it's
it's
the
actual,
hard
cost
of
the
installation
of
the
materials.
A
M
A
Okay,
lead.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair
question,
for
staff
here
more
about
the
application
of
the
Green
Building
incentive
program.
O
Mr
painter
noted
that
this
was
accepted
in
2019
under
the
old
program
and
obviously
they're
following
those
guidelines,
in
addition
to
incorporating
some
additional
priority
credits,
and
we
thank
you
for
that
in
response
to
what
this
kind
of
C2
E2
has
and
commented
this
evening,
I'm
wondering
Mr
Watson
if
you
could
maybe
walk
through
what
the
staff
process
is
for
older
site
plans
that
are
accepted
by
the
county
manager
or
by
by
staff,
but
then
sit
for
a
number
of
years,
and
we
have
a
change
in
policy.
O
When
is
staff
really
pushing
to
kind
of
get
more
out
of
these
policies?
When
is
it
not
the
County's
policy?
To
do
that?
I
think
it'd
be
helpful
to
sort
of
understand
that,
in
light
of
you
know,
a
new
push
for
the
the
community
energy
plan.
C
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question,
so
the
the
answer
to
the
second
part
is
we
we
push
for
it
now
and
we
did
push
for
it
and
I
think
that
was
even
discussed
at
sprc
and
outlined
in
the
sprc
reports.
Prior
to
that.
That
being
said,
in
this
particular
case,
there's
a
very
clear
cut
off
for
projects
that
are
vested
under
the
previous
iteration
of
the
policy
and
I
think
you
know
moving
forward
when
you
have
any
policy,
that's
being
updated.
C
C
That
being
said,
we
strongly
encourage
the
applicant
to
follow
the
new
policy
and
to
do
all
the
prerequisites
there,
which
they've
done
I.
Think
more
than
half
of
here.
So
again
the
the
you
know
it's
a
voluntary
program
and
they're
definitely
fulfilling
the
2014
version
of
that
and
then
going
a
little
bit
beyond
that
and
doing
some
of
the
the
newer
one
as
well.
That's.
O
Helpful
and
then
I
will
have
a
question
for
the
applicant
along
those
lines,
but
Mr
Watson
or
Mr
Pfeiffer
I'm
wondering
how
many
site
plans
or
4.1s
have
been
accepted
by
the
planning
department
but
under
the
old
policy,
but
have
yet
to
come
through
site
plan
review
committee.
Sure.
P
Commissioner
schroll,
this
is
Matt
Pfeiffer
with
the
planning
division.
This
is
the
only
one
this.
This
was
a
unique
and
one-off
situation.
As
Mr
Watson
explained.
You
know,
the
Green
Building
incentive
policy
in
2020
was
approved
with
a
policy
that
it
goes
into
effect
on
a
certain
date,
and
so
it
is
our
policy,
then
In
fairness
that
those
projects
that
were
accepted
prior
to
that
implementation
date
utilize
the
older
version
of
the
policy
and
as
Mr
Watson
explained.
P
You
know
we
did
push
the
applicant
very
hard
in
this
case
to
you
know,
Implement
some
of
the
measures
of
the
new
policy
and
they've
done
so
so
we're
comfortable
moving
forward
with
where
they're
at.
O
That's
helpful,
Mr
painter
question
for
you:
if
I
might
on
the
on
the
electric
vehicle
parking,
four
percent,
evsc
and
I
think
15
EV
ready.
Is
there
any
ability
to
exceed
that
on,
particularly
on
the
EV
ready
within
the
electrical
capacity
in
the
building.
D
Just
had
a
conversation
with
the
with
the
applicant
we're
happy
to
look
at
that
between
now
and
board,
see
if
we
can
do
better.
O
That's
helpful
just
also
as
a
cost
saving
measure
for
you
as
you're
thinking
about
this
in
the
future.
It's
I've
seen
estimates
in
in
reports
that
it
can
be
six
times
more
expensive
to
add
it
later.
So
you
know
if
you're
thinking
about
doing
it
and
a
lot
of
that
is
the
electrical
capacity
so
I
understand.
O
But
it's
also,
you
know,
running
conduit
and
opening
up
walls
which
yeah
so
that's
helpful,
I
guess
the
other
one
was
the
bird
friendly
glass
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
your
conversations
with
staff
along
those
lines.
I
saw
in
the
in
the
sipeline
conditions
that
those
Provisions
were
struck
out
and
are
not
applying
to
this.
This
particle
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
what
your
conversations
have
done
with
staff
on
that.
D
We
yeah
we've
had
a
couple
of
conversations
with
them.
That
was
one
of
the
Baseline
prerequisites
under
the
new
policy
that
we
just
were
not
able
to
to
commit
to
doing
I,
don't
know
Kevin.
If
you
want
to
speak
to
that
at
all.
Q
Requirement
but
we
are
willing
to
go
back
and
take
a
look
and
and
see
what
what
our
options
are
and
yeah
and
continue
that
conversation
yeah.
O
I
mean
I,
know,
you're,
also
incorporating
a
historic
facade
and
some
things
you
know
that
first
floor.
You
know.
Maybe
it's
not
the
entire
building,
but
you
know
something
to
maybe
look
at
with
with
staff.
So
all
right
well
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
yield
back
Madam
chair,
thank.
R
D
Yeah
may
I
recognize
Mr
David
Orr.
S
T
Thank
you.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
excuse
me,
it's
near
and
dear
to
our
hearts.
We
would
we
want
it
to
the
problem.
Is
the
Fret
in
the
glass
is
enormously
expensive?
Let's
see
if
we
can
come
up
with
some
ideas
and
work
with
staff
on
it,
we
certainly
want
to
protect
the
birds.
Trust
me.
We
realize
that
two-thirds
of
the
species
have
gone
away
in
the
past
decade,
or
so
it's
a
troubling
to
us,
and
so
we'll
do
everything
we
can.
But
the
specifics
of
the
bird
fritted
glass
is
economically
and
feasible.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
I
appreciate
that
perhaps
you
can
work
with
staff,
because
we
regularly
ask
us
of
all
of
the
applicants
now
and
they've
been
able
to
comply,
so
there
might
be
some
options
that
you're,
not
aware
of,
and
certainly
the
least
expensive
option
is
to
have
a
policy
of
turning
out
the
lights
in
the
building
at
a
certain
period
of
time.
T
Yeah
I
I
mean
I,
remember
the
old
days
of
the
stickers
on
the
Windows
right,
I
mean
so
even
and
we're
happy
to
do
that
right.
But
right
now
the
specification
is
a
little
tough,
but
I
will
tell
you.
Staff
has
been
enormously
helpful
and
working
with
us
throughout
the
entire
three
years
of
this
journey,
and
so
I
I,
don't
anticipate
anything
less
and
we'll
have
a
good
outcome.
A
K
Thank
you,
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
including
some
of
the
larger
size
units
in
the
building
that
can
fit
families.
K
The
three
bedrooms
are
a
bit
more
suitable
to
families,
as
my
colleague
commissioner
Hughes
on
Virtual
will
probably
remind
everyone
if
I
don't
that,
if
a
family
has
a
son
and
a
daughter,
then
they
wouldn't
qualify
to
be
in
the
two
bedroom
units.
So
the
three
bedroom
units
are
much
appreciated
and
anything
we
can
do
to
get
the
larger
sizes
to
fit
more
families
would
be
great.
Thank
you.
We.
T
H
A
A
I
Perfect
I
I
have
to
also
first
of
all,
make
just
known
that
this
is
the
applicant
choosing
to
go
above
and
beyond
and
and
make
that
contribution
on
site,
which
is
beyond
appreciate
it
and
A
Step
Above.
Many
of
our
proposals
that
come
in
so
it
just
needs
to
be
applauded
more
to
say
the
personal
commitment
from
an
applicant
to
show
this
sort
of
commitment
towards
an
inclusive
community
should
be
well
recognized,
and
this,
commissioner,
for
one,
is
very
appreciative
of
it.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Patel
yield
back.
A
Thank
you,
okay
and
I
think
that
we
had
a
conversation
at
the
last
Commission
meeting
where
we
discussed
the
need
for
a
cultural
shift
on
affordable
housing
and
having
applicants
provide
more
than
what's
necessary.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
Last
Point.
That's
been
identified
by
commissioner
Hughes
is
the
relationship
and
contribution
to
community
open
space
improvements,
any
questions,
ideas,
comments
or
thoughts.
Commission
tell
me.
H
I'm
happy
with
the
contribution
I
just-
and
this
is
not
for
the
applicant-
it's
actually
more
for
for
staff
and
probably
for
D
from
Parks
and
Rec-
is
that
the
across
the
street
is
the
county-owned
property
that
has
been
promised
for
quite
a
long
time
to
the
community
to
be
a
park,
and
this
is
next
to
the
fire
station
and
behind
the
telephone.
Building.
H
I
would
hope
that
most,
if
not
all,
of
this
contribution
will
be
earmarked
for
that
site
that
it
can
in
fact
be
developed.
It's
been
quite
a
long
time
since
the
Clarendon
sector
plan
was
made
and
the
park
was
envisioned
as
part
of
that
and
we
still
don't
have
it,
and
that
was
something
that
came
up
as
part
of
the
Clarendon
section.
Plan
update
and
I
think
that
we
really
do
need
to
move
ahead
with
getting
that
space
to
be
programmed
for
the
community
as
as
park
space.
Thank
you
thank.
A
I
I
do
commissioner
Patel?
We
are
going
to
start
with
vacations
because
we
all
want
to
go
on
one
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
regular
motions.
If
that's.
I
All
right,
it's
the
one
I
recommend
that
the
Planning
Commission
find
that
the
vacation
of
one
a
2931
square
foot
portion
of
a
12
foot
wide
public
Alley,
located
between
Wilson
Boulevard
and
10th
Street,
North
adjacent
to
3240,
Wilson,
Boulevard,
3211,
10th,
Street,
South,
10th,
Street,
North
and
3201
10th
Street
North,
RPC
numbers
19-003-001.
A
Commissioner
Lynn
tell
me
and
then
just
a
point
of
clarification,
just
to
be
clear:
it's
3211,
10th,
Street,
North
and
not
10th.
M
A
Right:
okay,
any
additional
discussion:
okay,
let's
go
for
a
vote;
Mr
Bagley
aye,
Garen,
aye,
Steinberger,
aye,
Weir,
aye,
Cheryl,
aye,
Peterson,
aye,
sorry,
Lee
right
and
tell
me
hi
Hughes,.
M
I
I
All
right,
I'm
gonna
read
them
all
three
I'm
gonna
do
all
three
in
one
is
that
okay,
commissioner
Patel,
you
approve
the
three
approvals
from
the
accounting.
A
Is
that
okay,
if,
if
we
read
all
three
at
one
time,
given
our
discussion
today,.
P
A
I
We
do
yeah
I
move
the
planning,
correct
commission
recommend
the
County
Board
approve
the
attached
resolution
certifying
1,
000
or
14
760
square
feet
of
GFA,
a
transfer
of
development
rights
from
4
1407
and
1411
North
Garfield
Street,
sending
site
for
the
purpose
of
historic
preservation.
Second,.
O
Madam,
chair
just
may
I
sure,
just
on
this
this
issue
of
of
doing
these
separately.
It
would
be
my
recommendation
in
the
future
to
do
these
separately,
particularly
in
this
case,
if
we
didn't
agree
that
the
sending
site
for
the
t
TDR
was
appropriate
than
the
rest
of
this
falls
apart,
and
so
so
these
should
be
done
separately
right.
A
Okay,
any
discussion
on
this
motion.
Wonderful!
Let's,
let's
vote
commissioner
Bagley
aye
Kieran,
aye,
steinbrucker,
aye,
Weir,
aye,
sure,
aye,
Peterson,
aye,
Starly,.
M
M
M
I
19-003-009
and
19-003-016
with
modifications
of
zoning
ordinance
requirements,
including
additional
density,
reduce
parking
and
loading
requirements,
design
requirements,
density
exclusions
and
other
modifications
as
necessary
to
achieve
the
proposed
development
plan,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
the
attached
ordinance.
Second,.
A
Motion
is
seconded
by
commissioner
schroll.
Any
discussion.
O
Madam
chair
just
want
to
say
quickly
that
I
appreciate
the
applicant
working
through
this
process.
I
know
it's
been
a
long
time
and
appreciate
your
participation
in
the
lrpc
and
the
sprc.
You
know
working
to
incorporate
the
historic
facade
and
it's
always
nice
to
get
to
this
stage,
and
we
had
you
know
we
had
citizen
comment,
but
it
was
kind
of
very
productive,
I
think
comments
this
evening
and
that's
an
indication
of
the
collaborative
nature
that
got
us
to
this
point.
O
I
I
I,
don't
think
I
could
say
it
any
better
than
commissioner
short,
but
I
also,
as
I
said
before,
commissioner
stroll
standing
on
the
shoulder
of
giants
with
the
sector,
Plan
update
and
then
I
also
do
have
to
say.
I
think
this
is
the
third
building.
I've
worked
in
my
time
over
eight
years
with
or
Partners
in
various
ways,
and
they
are
always
a
fabulous
applicant.
We're
I
think
a
blessed
Community
to
have
them
and
I
think
we're
seeing
the
blessing
in
the
community
benefit
package.
I
A
Thank
you
any
additional
comments.
Okay,
commissioner
Bagley
aye
Garen
aye
Steinberger,
aye,
Weir,
aye,
aye,
Peterson,
aye,
sarley,
hi
Lynn,
tell
me
aye
Hughes
hi,
Patel
I.
The
motion
carries
ten
to
zero.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
Watson
and
team.
Thank
you.
Have
a
wonderful
night.
Madam
clerk
me.
Will
you
call
the
second
item?
Please.
B
Item
number
two
is
fbcn
22-00001
and
at
fbc-28
mcp3
Arlington
LLC
for
a
use
permit
to
construct
a
mixed-use
project
containing
250
residential
dwelling
units
and
five
thousand
square
feet
of
retail
application
includes
Associated
Amendment
and
the
commercial
form
based
code
to
change
the
Town
Center
regulating
plan
from
a
local
Main
Street
Building
envelope,
design
standard
designation
along
Eastern
side
of
South
Lincoln
street,
where
the
subject
property
is
located.
Property
is
approximately
63
141
square
feet
located
at
3401.
B
Columbia
Pike,
applicable
policies
include
the
Columbia
Pike
form-based
code
and
an
ordinance
to
vacate
a
portion
of
a
12-foot
alley,
running
Southwest
from
South
Glebe
Road
towards
South
Lincoln
Street,
along
the
parcel
lines
between
lot
9
and
parts
of
lot.
One
Lots
1,
2
12
and
13
block
1
Alcova
Heights
known
as
3401
Columbia,
Pike
Arlington
Virginia
with
conditions.
We
have
a
staff
presentation
by
Matt
matusik,
followed
by
an
applicant
presentation,
wonderful.
B
U
All
right
just
preserve
bandwidth
for
a
second
all
right.
U
So
good
evening
for
the
record,
I'm
Matt
souzak,
with
the
planning
division
I'm
joined
this
evening
by
Robert
Gibson
and
Betsy
Herbst
from
the
Department
of
Environmental,
Services
and
I'm,
going
to
introduce
the
items
associated
with
the
3401
Columbia
Pike
property
and
highlight
the
review
process
which
took
place
over
the
last
12
months.
Before
handing
things
over
to
the
applicant
for
a
more
detailed
proposal.
Presentation
and
the
3401
Columbia
Pike
is
located
at
the
northwest
corner
of
Glebe
Road
intersection
in
Columbia
Pike.
U
U
U
I'm
now
going
to
spend
a
brief
moment
explaining
the
content
on
this
slide,
because
it
involves
some
unique
terminology
and
layers
of
standards
that
are
intended
to
guide
Redevelopment
on
this
property.
One
of
the
key
regulatory
elements
found
in
the
formbase
code
is
the
regulating
plan
comprised
of
a
series
of
maps
that
indicate
the
vision
for
each
property
eligible
to
redevelop
in
this
District.
U
This
exhibit
provides
an
excerpt
of
the
Town
Center
map,
which
represents
the
vision
for
the
eastern
part
of
the
corridor,
within
that
commercial
form-based
code
on
these
Maps
properties
are
designated
by
one
of
four
distinct
Frontage
types
grouped
under
the
codes
building
envelope
standards
each
depicting
through
a
solid
fill
color
on
the
public
streets
surrounding
the
property,
or
what
that
vision
is
3401
is
generally
surrounded
by
the
Main
Street
designation.
This
is
the
one
that's
shown
in
red
where
mixed
use,
developments
of
up
to
six
stories
in
height
are
permitted.
U
This
relationship
between
the
two
Frontage
types
had
been
carefully
analyzed
throughout
last
year,
as
the
proposed
amendment
to
this
map
was
requested
by
the
applicant
in
the
context
of
the
Redevelopment
proposal,
following
internal
review
by
staff
and
informed
by
several
massing
diagrams
sun,
shade
studies
and
the
assessment
of
similar
transitions
throughout
the
corridor.
The
proposed
amendment
was
considered
by
the
form-based
code
advisory
working
group
and
the
zoning
committee,
where
General
support
was
expressed.
U
The
proposed
change
would
be
captured
by
the
regulating
plan
map
and
only
apply
within
the
limits
of
the
subject
property
on
Lincoln
Street.
The
change
would
better
enable
Redevelopment
on
this
property,
while
still
meeting
the
intent
of
The
form-based
Code
by
ensuring
The
Proposal
complies
with
the
existing
phone-based
code.
Height
transitions
prescribed
for
the
edge
conditions
such
as
this
one,
where
you
meet
the
revitalization
District
boundary
towards
the
North.
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Incorporating
the
amendment
into
this
analysis
helps
us
establish
a
number
of
criteria
that
were
utilized
in
the
staff's
review
of
this
proposal.
I
won't
go
through
all
of
these,
but
the
list
on
this
slide
captures
some
of
the
key
elements
of
a
typical
Main
Street
site
and
that
commercial
form-based
code.
U
Staff
has
determined
that
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
commercial
form-based
code
standards
and
no
modifications
have
been
requested
by
the
applicant
The.
Proposal
is
required
to
be
considered
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
County
Board
whenever
the
site
area
exceeds
40
000
square
feet,
as
it
has
here
or
the
proposed
building
footprint
exceeds
30
000
square
feet.
As
this
one
had
a
more
in-depth
review
of
the
form-based
code.
Regulations
can
also
be
found
in
the
attached
form-based
code
checklist,
which
was
posted
online,
along
with
our
staff
report.
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In
addition
to
the
form-based
code,
Amendment
and
the
use
permit,
staff
is
also
recommending
the
vacation
of
a
existing
12-foot
alley
that
runs
East-West
to
the
middle
of
the
existing
property.
Since
its
original
dedication
and
subsequent
office
development
that
came
in
the
1960s,
the
alley
has
not
been
used
and
is
not
identified
on
the
massive
Transportation
plan.
The
proposed
development
would
be
delivering
a
new
rear
alley
along
the
northern
edge
of
the
site
from
which
parking
and
loading
access
will
be
provided.
U
Staff
began
to
meet
with
the
applicant
in
early
2022
before
initiating
the
form-based
code.
Amendment
process,
as
that
element
was
advertised
in
the
fall
of
last
year,
the
form-based
code
advisory
working
group
and
the
local
community
conducted
additional
meetings
to
review
the
development
proposal
this
month.
All
of
the
associate
items
are
coming
together
for
consideration
by
the
County,
Board
and
other
relevant
commissions.
U
V
Hi
good
evening,
everyone
for
the
record.
My
name
is
Lauren
Riley
I'm
with
Walsh
Colucci,
and
we
represent
the
applicant
in
this
case.
Marcus
Partners
I'm
joined
tonight
by
my
colleague,
Kathy
puscar,
Tess
crane
with
kgd
architecture
and
you're,
a
blazer
with
Marcus
Partners.
The
rest
of
our
design
team
is
also
with
us
as
well.
Behind
me,
I
thought:
Mr
matusek
did
a
thorough
job
of
summarizing
our
proposed
project
and
the
associated
applications.
V
So
I'll
attempt
to
move
through
these
slides
quickly
for
you
all
here
here,
you
can
see
the
proposed
sites
outlined
in
blue
in
the
Columbia
Pike
Commercial
form-based
Code
District
boundaries
outlined
in
Black
I'll.
Note
briefly,
that
you
can
see,
there's
a
triangular
portion
of
the
property
that
judged
above
the
commercial
form-based
code
district.
This
area
right
now
is
an
asphalt
driveway,
leading
you
into
the
bank
site
and
is
not
included
within
the
Columbia
Pike
form-based
code
district
and
I'll
speak
a
little
bit
more
about
how
we're
incorporating
this
parcel
into
into
our
project.
V
Today,
you'll
see
the
existing
four-story
Bank
of
America
office
building
and
the
Bank
of
America
drive
through
there
to
the
top
left
of
your
screen
off
Lincoln
Street
and
for
any
Bank
of
America
existing
customers
who
may
be
tuning
in
to
the
Planning
Commission
hearing
tonight.
It's
our
understanding
that
the
Bank
of
America
branch
and
drive-through
will
be
moving
across
the
street
to
the
old
Capital
One
bank
site.
So
no
need
to
worry.
V
You'll
still
have
your
banking
services
there
just
just
across
the
street,
and
you
can
see
on
the
left
side
of
your
screen
too.
There's
a
Wendy's
drive-through
next
to
the
property
that
is
not
included
in
this
application
and
will
remain
as
is,
and
so
those
two
buildings
that
sit
on
the
property
today
that
are
set
back
far
from
the
streets,
surrounded
by
all
that
surface
parking.
Those
are
actually
approved
in
1969
as
site
plan
number
49,
and
then
they
were
developed
in
the
early
1970s.
So
that's
how
long
that's?
V
As
Mr
matusek
noted,
this
site
is
located
within
the
Columbia
Pike
Town
Center
regulating
plan.
It
has
Main
Street
Frontage
on
all
three
sides
on
South
Glebe,
Road
on
Columbia
Pike
and
wrapping
the
corner
there
up
to
South
Lincoln
Street,
and
you
can
see
there's
a
small
portion
of
South
Lincoln
Street
that
had
that
is
designated
as
local
Frontage.
V
V
It's
also
will
better
align
with
that
Main
Street
Frontage
on
South
Glebe
Road.
As
you
can
see,
it
extends
all
the
way
up
to
the
northern
property
line
on
that
on
that
side,
and
it
will
also
allow
for
a
design
that
better
meets
the
spirit
and
intent
of
the
form-based
code.
Additionally,
I'll
note
that
the
same
setback
and
step
back
requirements
for
the
new
development
will
apply
here
as
the
same
height
restrictions
apply
in
both
the
local
Frontage
and
Main
Street
Frontage
designations.
V
Here
you
can
see
our
rendered
site
plan
with
the
proposed
open
space
and
streetscape
improvements
and
in
the
proposed
building
footprint
as
Mr
matuzik
noted,
the
site
is
larger
than
forty
thousand
square
feet,
and
the
building
footprint
is
a
little
larger
than
thirty
thousand
square
feet.
So
these
two
things
require
a
form-based
code
use
permit
to
be
approved
with
this
project.
V
Now
you
can
see
its
current
condition,
which
is
an
impervious
asphalt,
driveway
and,
as
I
said,
this
site
is
not
located
within
the
commercial
form
base
code
district
and
is
not
subject
to
the
form-based
code
regulations.
However,
the
applicant
will
not
leave
an
impervious
asphalt
driveway
there
as
the
condition
moving
forward.
They
do
propose
to
renovate
this
area
with
additional
Green,
Space
and
plantings
that
will
provide
a
transition
and
additional
buffering
from
the
new
form-based
code
building
to
the
neighbors
to
the
north.
V
So
to
summarize,
the
applicant
requests
the
form-based
code
amendment
to
bring
that
Main
Street
Frontage
a
little
farther
north
along
South,
Lincoln
Street.
It
proposes
a
form-based
code
use
permit
to
allow
the
proposed
building
and
as
Mr
matusek
mentioned,
the
app
can
also
requests
vacation
of
a
portion
of
that
public
Alleyway,
which
is
no
longer
needed
and
the
vacation
is
required
in
order
to
implement
the
proposed
project.
And
so,
with
that
I'll
hand
it
over
now
to
Ms
crane
with
kgd
architecture,
to
walk
you
through
the
building
design.
S
Thank
you
Lauren,
good
evening.
Everyone,
as
she
said,
my
name
is
Tess
Crane
and
I'm,
with
kgd
architecture,
I'll
be
walking
through
the
building
design.
Tonight,
I
wanted
to
start
on
the
site
plan
and
again
just
point
out
that
we
do
have
three
adjacent
neighbors
that
have
already
developed
under
the
form-based
code,
and
we
took
this
development
in
mind
when
creating
our
design
to
make
something
that
is
both
complementary
and
unique.
S
Looking
at
the
ground
floor
plan,
this
is
our
Plaza
level.
I
would
like
to
start
walking
you
around
the
building
at
the
northeast
corner
on
Glebe.
You
can
see
the
Blue
Area
here
is
all
residential,
Lobby
and
amenity
space,
fronting
Glebe
Road
and
then,
as
we
get
to
the
primary
intersection,
which
is
Glebe
Road
and
Columbia
Pike.
This
is
where
we've
located
the
retail
for
the
site
where
it
gets
the
prominent
visibility
and
connection
with
the
most
pedestrians.
S
On
the
left
here,
we're
looking
at
level
one
the
retail
space
and
in
many
space
will
be
taller
spaces
so
level.
One
is
only
a
partial
level
which
has
26
units
and
then
level
two
is
a
complete
level,
housing,
42
units
and
on
level
two.
You
can
see
where
the
building
steps
back
to
meet
that
neighborhood
step
back
of
40
feet
from
the
property
line,
so
units
facing
that
North
property
have
private
Terraces
facing
towards
the
neighborhood
Zone
continuing
to
move
up
through
the
building
level.
S
S
This
is
the
roof
plan.
The
rooftop
for
this
project
isn't
completely
unoccupied
space,
only
housing,
mechanical
equipment
pads
for
future
retail
mechanical
equipment,
as
that
becomes
designated
and
just
elevator
and
stare
overrun
in
access
points.
S
S
S
S
As
we
move
around
the
building
to
the
West,
this
is
the
Lincoln
Street
Frontage.
You
can
see
how
we've
begun
to
step
down
the
massing,
not
just
with
the
40-foot
setbacks
to
the
neighbors,
but
also
by
creating
the
taller
element
to
the
South
closer
to
Columbia,
Pike
and
then
stepping
down
by
changing
materials.
Here
you
also
see
the
storefront
maintaining
the
activation
of
the
Main
Street
Frontage
along
Lincoln
Street.
S
The
lower
portion
of
this
elevation
is
just
a
partial
elevation
to
show
the
fence
and
screening
from
the
adjacent
properties
and
the
upper
full
elevation
shows
how
the
alleyway
dips
down
to
provide
access
to
the
below
grade
parking
garage
to
the
right.
You
can
see
the
entrance
to
the
Loading
and
trash
areas
and
again
this
will
be
fenced
and
screened
so
that
there's
no
light
pollution
affecting
our
near
Neighbors.
S
So
the
idea
was
to
kind
of
create
a
sense
of
place
and
massing
in
the
corner
without
using
a
tower,
which
is
the
architectural
element
that
the
adjacent
projects
have
used
and
the
frame
is
created
by
the
reflective
metal
panels
that
are
being
used
with
the
transparent
storefront
and
that
metal
frame
continues
up
both
sides
of
the
cube
in
a
corrugated
metal
material.
S
S
As
we
zoom
in
to
look
at
that
retail,
we
can
see
how
the
levitating
Cube
really
provides
an
opportunity
to
create
a
moment
of
pause
on
the
sidewalk
connect
with
The
Pedestrian
scale.
S
We
are
using
an
accent
color,
that
is
a
copper,
terracotta
color,
to
really
highlight
the
soffit
area
and
download
lighting
and
signage
that
will
really
draw
the
eye
to
the
retail
and
it
the
associated
activity.
S
Okay,
looking
this
is
on
Columbia
Pike,
looking
back
towards
Glebe,
and
it
just
allows
you
to
see
a
little
bit
more
closely
the
materials,
including
how
we've
frame
the
windows
here
on
the
levitating
cube
with
that
accent,
color.
S
Moving
around
the
building
to
the
Lincoln
Street
here,
you
can
see
kind
of
in
the
bottom
right
the
corner
of
the
Wendy's
parking
lot,
and
there
will
also
be
fencing
at
this
location
and
the
massing
steps
down
to
the
towards
the
new
planting
that
we'll
be
creating
in
the
single
family.
Neighborhood.
S
Finally,
looking
at
the
Glebe
elevation,
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
there
is
a
gap
in
the
street
trees,
because
we
have
a
bus
stop
with
two
shelters
that
is
incorporated
with
part
of
the
streetscape
design
for
this,
and
that
has
gone
into
the
planning
for
the
main
residential
entrance
location,
which
is
mid
block
and
here's
a
closer
view
of
that
main
residential
Lobby
and
the
canopy
which
again
ties
into
that
topper.
Copper
color.
That
is
being
used
to
Accent
the
corner
Cube.
A
I
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Patel
welcome
line
and
for
my
own
conversation,
and
hopefully
Emma
will
be
able
to
to
facilitate
this.
If,
if
Matt
could
get
the
map
of
the
two
form-based
codes
up
for
me,
that
would
help
my
me
very
much
greatly
and
if
the
applicant
would
mind
getting
the
Triangular
lot
image
up,
I
think
that
would
also
help
me
for
a
second,
so
I'm
at
yours.
I
First,
if
you
don't
mind
putting
that
on
screen,
I
really
do
want
to
have
that
sort
of
visual
to
help
the
conversation
here
and
pulling
up.
My
notes
here
give
me
a
second
please
folks,
I
apologize,
so
I
I
always
lead
introductions
to
form
based
code
developmental
pers,
no
Matt,
the
the
two
codes,
the
map
with
the
two
codes,
the
hatch
codes,
if
you
don't
mind
he's
prior
to
going
there,
sorry
Matt
and
if
it's
already
up
then
I'm
just
lagging
I
apologize
to
all
see
if
my
phone's
better.
I
Thank
you.
Matt
I
always
like
to
begin
conversations
with
the
neighbor
with
our
form-based
code
development
projects,
with
a
reminder
to
my
colleagues
and
I
was
even
reminded
this
evening
of
how
important
it
is
to
remind
my
colleagues
that
there
are
two
form
based
codes
that
cover
the
entirety
of
the
entire
length
of
Columbia
Pike.
They
work
synergetically
each
one
has
different
requirements.
I
Some
things
are
obvious
to
folks.
Some
things
are
less
obvious
inside
of
the
different
variations,
but
they
do
work
in
Synergy,
4-H
of
them.
So
it's
just
I
know.
Matt
was
really
brief
and
it
may
have
just
things,
but
this
evening's
proposals
within
the
commercial
form-based
code
in
in
one
of
our
nodes-
and
it
is-
was
our
first
code
and
then
afterwards
later
on.
I
The
second
code,
which
is
the
neighborhoods
form
based
code,
was
adopted
to
create
the
entire
length
of
the
Pike
and
and
I
always
say
they
work
together.
They
are
a
contract
with
the
community
and
they
are
seen
as
such
and
as
a
reminder.
The
only
reason
we're
hearing
this
this
evening-
and
it's
not
otherwise
approved
by
the
zoning
administrator-
is
a
function
of
the
fact
that
the
site
area
is
so
large
and
the
building
size
exceeds
the
minimum.
I
Otherwise,
the
goal
is
for
it
to
be
a
a
buy
right
development
subject
to
the
zoning
administrator.
If
every
Jack
box
is
met,
so
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
of
that.
If
the
applicant
wouldn't
mind
putting
up
real
quickly
the
transition
it
has
on
the
Triangular
partials,
there's
a
beautiful
picture,
I
believe
they
showed
that
the
future.
Thank
you,
thank
you.
Everybody
start
and
this
so
folks.
This
is
an
image.
I
I
want
to
remind
you
of
I,
want
you
all
to
see
it
as
my
fellow
Commissioners
and
then
to
note
that
we
had
no
public
speakers
this
evening.
The
reason
that
that
is
a
possibility
is
because
of
the
contract
with
the
community
formed
by
those
two
codes
and
how
they
work
energetically.
So
I
just
want
to
always
remind
folks.
This
is
a
low
residential
development
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
our
picture
and
then,
on
the
right
hand,
side
will
be
the
development
within
our
form
based
code.
I
So
it's
always
important
to
remind
folks
that
the
pike
has
a
contract
with
development
that
is,
is
quite
I,
think
universally
Associated
and
approached
down
the
the
entire
Unity
of
the
11
Civic
associations,
and
it's
seen
through
that.
How
much
that
contract
is
this
evening's
proposal.
I
I
think
is
very
interesting,
so
I
think
the
outline
of
conversation
context
are:
are
subjects
revolve
around
site
context
and
adjacencies
specifically,
if
any
questions
outside
the
thing
the
corner
lot
there
and
I
also
want
to
bring
the
changes
in
height,
Notch
and
setbacks
to
see.
I
If
anybody
has
questions
around
those
and
then
the
other
general
form
based
Code
Compliance
and
before
we
turn
over
commissioner
Patel
I
want
to
just
first
say
that
I
for
one
and
I
know
many
of
my
other
odd
members
are
are
excited
to
see
this
building
get
built
for.
The
predominant
reason
of
the
fact
that
it's
different
and
the
the
materiality
and
the
architecture
of
it
is
is
something
we
have
yet
to
see
on
the
Pike
and
so
I
think
we're
a
little
excited
to
see
that.
A
H
Are
you
going
to
do
commission
reports?
Oh.
A
H
Me,
you
suppose,
before
the
Transportation
Commission
last
week
for
the
sole
purpose
of
the
vacation
of
the
phantom
Alleyway,
which
is
just
on
paper
and
no
record
of
it
ever
having
being
vacated,
is
anywhere
in
the
record.
So
we
did
find
that
it
is
consistent
with
the
master
transfer,
Transportation
plan
and
voted
seven
to
zero
to
approve
the
vacation.
H
So
you
know
that's,
that's!
That's
done.
The
only
discussion
really
was
sort
of
related
in
that
there
are.
This
is
not
the
only
phantom
or
or
County
right
of
way
that
has
effectively
been
privatized,
and
we
noted
that
that
does
exist
throughout
the
county
and
that's
something
we
really
should
be
dealing
with.
But
that
is
not
an
issue
in
this
case.
So
that's
the
report
of
the
Transportation
Commission.
A
M
A
A
Okay
triangle:
all
right:
Corner
triangle
lot
outside
the
form
base
code.
Any
discussion,
commissioner
Bagley.
R
Yeah
I
just
have
a
question
commissioner
Hughes
I'm,
assuming
there
was
some
Outreach
to
the
house
that
is
extremely
close
to
this
site
and
if
so,
was
there
any
feedback
or
concerns
and
were
those
concerns
addressed?
Thank
you.
I
So
Matt
can
speak
more
broadly
about
that
all
the
the
proper
noticing
that
has
to
be
published,
but
also
there
is
a
community
meeting
that
is
held
I
know
the
applicant
held
prior
with
the
Alcova
Heights
civic
association,
with
his
most
adjacent
one.
I
Commissioner
Bagley
I
will
also
say
that
this
is
not
the
first
time,
nor
will
it
be
the
last
time
that
a
a
form-based
code
project
is
has
an
adjacency
to
a
low
residential
development
Zone,
and
it
is
always
shocking
to
me,
commissioner,
Bagley,
the
embracing
of
the
density
that
goes
on
on
my
neighbors
on
the
bike.
So
I'll
simply
say
it
that
way.
It's
it's!
It's
rather
interesting,
Mr
matusek!
If
you
have
more
to
add
I'll,
let
you
speak
too,
because
I
know.
U
I
do
know
that
Beyond
the
residents
that
are
immediately
north
of
this
property
we've
actually
had
a
lot
of
advisory
working
group
members
and
other
residents,
I
think
be
very
mindful
of
that
condition
between
the
Redevelopment
and
the
adjacent
single
family
homes,
particularly
Linda
dye
who's,
a
very
strong
advocate
of
the
form-based
code,
and
she
actually
helped
us
and
others
to
really
improve
some
of
the
landscaping
and
buffering
conditions
along
that
alley
there.
U
So,
in
addition
to
I,
think
the
retaining
wall
there's
some
additional
fencing
and
those
landscape
improvements
that
really
help
buffer
this
development
and
some
of
the
loading
and
parking
that
are
anticipated
from
the
rear
alley
to
the
surrounding
Property
Owners
to
the
north,
which
currently
have
their
own
fencing
as
I
understand
it.
This
would
kind
of
provide
some
redundancy
if
you
will,
in
terms
of
the
buffering
and
minimizing
any
impacts
across
the
allotments.
A
Yes,
okay,
any
other
questions
on
this
topic,
all
right.
So
now
we
will
okay,
commissioner,
let's
go
to
your
precedence
question.
W
So,
thank
you,
the
applicant,
thank
you
staff
for
running
this
and
thank
you,
commissioner.
Hughes
for
I
did
attend
the
meeting.
The
the
form-based
code
meeting,
where
we
discussed
this
project
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
and
I
want
to
verify
with
Matt
that
this
is
a
not
a
precedent.
Setting
I
I
disagree
a
little
bit
with
the
characterization
that
this
is
improving
the
form-based
code.
W
I
think
the
notion
of
transition
from
a
higher
identity
to
a
single
family
home
has
been
very
well
thought
out
on
the
form-based
code
and
I
think
the
the
unique
instance
of
this
site
and
the
way
this
site
was
assembled,
warrants
this
change.
But
I
I
would
like
to
just
articulate
that
I
think
the
form-based
code,
transitioning
from
Main
Street
to
like
I,
think
residential
streets
I
forget
the
terminology
is,
is
a
really
good
approach
and
one
that
benefits
the
community
as
a
whole.
W
I
will
be
voting
to
support
this,
however,
because
I
do
think
it's
a
good
solution
and
the
other
point
that
I
was
going
to
make
was
oh
yeah.
So
the
question
for
Matt
is
like
we're
not
foreseeing
this
happening
in
any
future
applications.
Are
we.
U
We
are
not.
The
applicant
actually
highlighted
the
more
typical
practice
that
we
have
seen
many
applicants
utilize,
which
is
the
50-foot
extension
of
any
of
those
four
Frontage
types
in
either
direction
to
I,
think
better
suit,
I
think
the
development
program,
and
so
from
my
from
that
perspective,
we
don't
anticipate
this
setting
a
precedent
in
that
regard.
U
Every
potential
request
that
could
come
forward
in
the
future
would
require
its
own
site
analysis,
additional
massing,
sun
and
shade
studies,
and
we
may
arrive
at
a
different
answer
depending
on
what
the
actual
site
circumstances
might
be.
I
think
the
benefit
of
having
this
type
of
option,
where
we
can
study
this
further
with
the
benefit
of
an
architect
and
engineer
at
the
table,
is
that
it
provides
us
an
opportunity
to
go
a
step
further
than
what
I
think.
U
So
the
fact
that
the
Wendy
site,
for
example,
here
is
not
being
incorporated
as
one
large
footprint
or
maybe
a
series
of
buildings
that
does
present
some
challenges
in
terms
of
the
number
of
individual
buildings
that
otherwise
would
need
to
be
required
on
the
site.
Should
we
remain
with
the
existing
regulating
plans,
so
those
type
of
things
I,
think
you
know,
we've
been
able
to
work
out
through
the
form-based
code.
U
Amendment
process
Which
is
less
predictable
because
the
data
will
get
us
to
the
right
answer,
and
in
this
case
it
just
so
happened
that
we're
able
to
demonstrate
that
the
proposal
in
front
of
us
would
have
the
similar,
if
not
almost
The,
Identical
impact
that
the
current
regulations
apply
in
this
particular
instance.
But
that's
not
to
say
that
other
sites
in
the
future
might
yield
a
different
outcome.
W
Thanks
I
think
I
think
I
fundamentally
agree
with
what
you
just
said,
although
I
will
put
in
a
chip
for
the
notion
of
Master
plans,
you
know
benefiting
from
the
whole
as
opposed
to
individual
parts.
So
if
we
start
to
tweak
every
single
lot
or
you
know
not
every
single
lot
but
significant
amount
of
Watts,
the
hole
starts
to
fall
apart.
So
you
know
I'm,
just
gonna
put
a
plug
in
for
the
form-based
code
and
say
that
you
know
we
ought
to
be
a
little
resistant
to
Too
Much
adaptation.
A
I
As
always,
we
begin
with
the
vacations
that
none
of
us
get
so
I
move.
Does
the
Planning
Commission
find
that
the
proposed
vacation
of
a
portion
of
a
12-foot
alley
running
Southwest
from
South
Glebe
Road
towards
South
Lincoln
Street
along
the
parcel
lines
between
lot
9
and
parts
of
Lot,
1,
2,
12
and
13
block
1
Alcova
Heights
is
substantially
in
accord
with
the
adopted
comprehensive
plan
or
applicable
part
thereof?
A
All
right:
let's
go
to
votes,
commissioner
Bagley
aye,
Garen,
aye,
we're
aye,
true
aye,
Peterson,
hi,
sorry,
hi,.
M
A
I
I
move
the
Planning
Commission
adopt
the
attached
ordinance
to
amend,
reenact
and
re-codify
the
Arlington
County
zoning
ordinance
article
11.1
CP
Dash
FBC
Columbia
Pike
Forum
based
code
districts
appendix
a
to
amend
the
Town
Center
regulating
plan
from
a
local
to
a
Main
Street
Building
envelope,
standard
designation
along
South
Lincoln
Street
for
the
property
3401
Columbia
Pike,
as
shown
in
attachment
to
to
the
staff
report.
Any.
O
A
I
Thank
you,
I
moved
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
the
County
Board
approve
the
subject
use
permit
in
accordance
with
the
Columbia
Pike
form-based
code,
FBC,
article
11.1
of
the
zoning
ordinance
for
the
development
of
a
six-story
mixed-use
department,
building
containing
a
total
of
250
units
in
a
shared
below
grade
parking
garage
subject
to
the
conditions
of
the
staff
report
dated
February
18
2023..
Oh
excuse
me,
January
27,
2023.,.
A
A
I
the
motion
carries
ten
to
zero
anything
else.
Commissioner
Hughes.
I
I
want
to
thank
Matt,
of
course,
from
our
staff
side
for
all
the
hard
work
they've
done
to
to
review
the
proposal
and
again
our
applicant
this
evening.
I
look
forward
to
seeing
this
building
at
the
corner
of
Columbia
Pike
and
Glebe
a
prominent
Corner
in
our
County
and
to
be
somewhat
different,
both
in
materiality
and
color,
so
I
appreciate
kgd
the
architect,
bringing
something
new
to
our
our
vision.
So
with
that,
thank
you,
commissioner.
A
B
Yes,
the
third
item
is
request
to
adopt
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation,
Plan,
update
and
element
of
the
Arlington
comprehensive
plan
to
reflect
the
full
scope
of
current
policies
and
procedures
that
address
the
County's
regulatory
Chesapeake.
Bay
preservation
act,
requirements
per
the
Virginia
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
act
requiring
local
governments
to
review
and
revise
their
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan
as
a
component
of
their
comprehensive
plan,
section
62.1
through
44.15
and
74
and
9
vac
25-830-170.
We
have
a
staff
presentation
and
no
public
speakers
and
no
applicant.
B
X
Thank
you
good
evening,
so
my
name
is
Ty
asphalt,
I'm
in
the
Department
of
Environmental
Services
in
the
office
of
sustainability
and
Environmental
Management
and
I'm
in
the
same
Department
as
Lily.
We've
been
working
on
this
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan
for
about
two
years
now
and
we're
here
in
front
of
the
Planning
Commission
to
recommend
asking
the
Planning
Commission
to
recommend
adoption
of
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan
implementation
update
as
part
of
the
county
board's
adoption
process.
X
It's
our
intent
to
ask
the
board
to
adopt
this
plan
on
February
18th.
We've
been
working
on
this
plan,
as
I
mentioned
for
two
years,
and
we
have
an
existing
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan.
It
is.
It
was
published
in
2001
and
it's
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan
since
2001.
There
have
been
many
changes
in
the
county
and
how
we
manage
storm
water
and
what
we've
done
with
this
plan
is
updated
it
to
reflect
current
policies
and
programs
to
protect
the
Chesapeake
Bay.
N
Please
apologize
I
have
to
apologize
for
my
voice,
so
this
may
look
familiar
to
Commissioners
from
our
presentation
last
month,
but
for
others
who
are
seeing
this
for
the
first
time
a
little
background
about
where
this
is
coming
from
the
Chesapeake
Bay
Act
was
Virginia
legislation
originally
enacted
in
1988
with
updates.
Since
then,
it's
focused
on
protecting
water
quality
through
land
use.
N
Management
from
that
came
on
one
hand,
a
requirement
for
Arlington
County
to
adopt
a
local
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation,
ordinance,
which
we
did
and
also
coming
out
of
the
bay
Act,
was
the
requirement
to
adopt
a
comprehensive
plant
element.
The
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan
and
Arlington's
original
plan
was
adopted
in
2001..
N
We
also
want
to
clarify
this
point.
The
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan
is
completely
separate
from
and
actually
predates,
the
nutrient
and
sediment
reduction
requirements
for
the
Chesapeake
Bay
total
maximum
daily
load.
If,
without
any
questions,
be
happy
to
revisit
this
slide
and
explain
it
a
little
bit
more.
X
So
why
why
are
we
updating
this
plan
now?
So
it's
been
around
since
2001,
the
Virginia
Department
of
Environmental
Quality
audited
our
program,
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
program
in
2020
2021.
They
visited
construction
sites,
they
reviewed
permits
that
have
been
approved
and
they
reviewed
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan
and
they
and
the
ordinance-
and
they
noted
that
the
plan
is
outdated
and
as
required
by
the
bay
act,
it
needs
to
be
kept
current.
X
So
we've
mentioned
resource
protection
areas
a
few
times,
as
you
can
see
in
that
diagram.
Basically,
resource
protection
errors
are
the
buffer
areas
from
streams
and
water
bodies
and
they
are
protected
in
that
we
do
additional
review
for
projects
that
are
in
resource
protection
areas,
so
the
Blue
Line
there
is
a
stream
and
imaginary
stream.
100
foot
buffer
from
there
is
a
resource
protection
area
in
Arlington
County.
X
Several
homes
are
already
in
the
resource
protection
area
because
the
this
regulation
sort
of
came
after
development,
but
the
area
outside
the
resource
protection
area
is
also
protected
and
it's
noted
as
a
resource
management
area.
X
So
what
are
we
required
to
do
as
part
of
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan
we're
supposed
to
have
updated
Maps,
so
the
RPA
maps
have
been
updated
since
2018
have
been
updated
in
2018,
so
we've
included
those
Maps.
Additionally,
there
are
floodplain
Maps
soil,
Maps,
impervious
cover,
Maps
streams
and
Watershed
maps
and
other
maps
that
have
also
been
included
as
part
of
the
plan
update
as
part
of
our
process.
We
also
looked
at
planning
and
policy
documents
that
are
available.
X
There
have
been
several
more
documents,
so
there's
the
stormwater
master
plan,
there's
a
draft
forestry
and
natural
resources
plan
that
is
in
development
currently
and
a
public
space
master
plan
that
was
finalized
a
few
years
ago.
So
we
looked
at
all
these
plans
and
made
sure
that
we
referenced
Incorporated
relevant
sections
of
those
plans
into
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan.
X
So
a
lot
has
happened
since
2001,
so
we've
highlighted
some
of
the
main
main
items
that
have
taken
place.
Some
major
Milestones,
the
stormwater
program
in
the
county
has
grown
both
as
a
result
of
the
summer
regulations
around
the
country
have
changed
due
to
regulatory
requirements,
and
the
county
has
also
taken
measures
to
to
protect
the
Chesapeake,
Bay
and
you'll
see.
There
are
several
permits
that
have
been
issued
by
the
Virginia
Department
of
Environmental
Quality
land
disturbance,
activity
permits
that
have
been
improved
more
currently
like
last
year
or
two
years
ago.
N
Thing,
thank
you
Ty.
So
here
you
have
a
summary
of
how
we
updated
the
plan
to
be
consistent
with
current
policies
and
programs
for
each
of
the
required
components
from
expanding
the
resource
protection
areas
to
minimizing
impacts
of
development
to
documenting
current
conditions
via
Maps,
as
Ty
mentioned
here
again,
are
just
two
of
those
Maps
included
in
the
plan.
The
map
on
the
left
shows
the
resource
protection
areas
in
red
along
the
streams,
the
Potomac,
River,
wetlands
and
other
sensitive
areas.
N
The
map
on
the
right
shows
how
we've
extended
resource
protection
areas
to
also
include
adjacent,
steep
slopes,
and
that
was
a
policy
decision
implemented
locally.
In
our
engagement
process
we
consulted
both
internal
and
external
stakeholders.
We
started
with
an
initial
public
meeting
in
March
2022
and
then
in
late
spring
2022,
we
gathered
feedback
from
across
environmental
internal
stakeholder
group.
We
worked
to
incorporate
those
comments
into
the
plan
and
we
also
included
the
Plan
update
as
part
of
our
presentations
to
various
commissions.
Throughout
that
time
period.
N
N
And
as
I
mentioned,
we've
worked
to
incorporate
those
comments
and
feedback
received
into
the
document.
At
both
internal
and
external.
We
received
a
request
to
expand
our
coordination
with
the
forestry
and
national
resources
plan,
which
we
did.
We
were
pleased
to
receive
a
letter
of
support
from
the
forestry
Natural
Resources
Commission.
There
were
also
some
requests
to
expand
the
scope
of
the
plan,
but
when
we
explained
the
regulatory
requirements
and
other
reasons
for
the
current
spoke
scope,
folks
did
understand.
N
So,
ultimately
again,
this
plan
is
update
is
triggered
by
regulatory
requirements.
It's
more
of
an
administrative
or
implementation
update.
So
this
document
was
not
going
to
be
setting
any
new
policy,
but
it
does
align
the
plan
with
our
current
program.
We
appreciate
the
planning
commission's
recommendation
from
last
month
and,
as
Ty
mentioned
tonight,
we're
asking
the
Planning
Commission
to
recommend
adoption
of
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan
as
part
of
the
county
board's
adoption
process,
and
if
you
can
handle
my
voice
for
one
more
sentence,
we
would
be
happy
to
take
any
questions
from
y'all.
A
L
A
Are
there
any
on
the?
Are
there
any
commission
reports?
No,
why
don't
we
just
do
free-for-all?
Anybody
have
any
questions.
Daniel,
commissioner,.
L
N
Sure
happy
too
so
again
sort
of
cover
here
so
in
the
previous
slide,
I
had
kind
of
talked
about.
Okay,
so
there's
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
act
as
passed
by
the
state
of
Virginia
Commonwealth
of
Virginia,
and
that
is
what
gave
rise
to
both
the
preservation
ordinance,
as
well
as
the
preservation
plan.
So
both
of
those
are
coming
out
of
that
the
there
is
sort
of
some
separate
things
going
on
that
also
have
the
name
Chesapeake
Bay
in
them,
and
so
it
can
be
easily
confused
with
this
effort.
N
So
the
EPA
Chesapeake
Bay
total
maximum
daily
load,
which
regulates
all
of
the
test
feed-based
States
and
requires
certain
reductions
of
nitrogen
phosphorus
and
sediment.
N
You
know
those
kind
of
filter
down
through
the
states
right
to
localities
like
Arlington
County,
so
our
nitrogen
phosphorus
and
sediment
reductions
are
required
through
our
stormwater
permit,
also
known
as
the
ms4
municipal,
separate
storm
sewer
system,
I'm.
Getting
that
correct,
permit
and
that's
again
issued
by
Virginia
DEQ
and
it's.
It
also
incorporates
those
reductions
as
part
of
the
permit,
and
we
have
a
tmdl
action
plan,
which,
of
course,
was
up
to
be
updated
last
year,
which
provide
no
end
of
confusion,
and
that
was
that
is
updated
together
with
the
stormwater
permit.
L
So
it's
not
even
convertible
to
actual
dollars
is
to
have
some
bullets
that,
on
on
the
dis,
the
overlap
and
and
and
disconnect
between
the
what
the
plan
covers
and
what
the
ordinance
covers
and
the
only
reason
I
even
suggest.
That
is
because
there
has
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
ordinance
and
relating
in
relation
to
other
discussions
that
are
happening
and
I
think
that
it's
on
the
front
of
people's
minds,
but
that's
that's
very
much
a
a
taker
to
leave
it
suggestion
and
thank
you
for
the
excellent
presentation.
Thank.
N
I
Sorry,
commissioner
I
was
hoping
staff
could
sort
of
answer
my
question
and
I
I
posed
it
a
while
back
on
and
I
understand.
This
is
a
great
slide
to
leave
into
this.
You
know
as
it
moves
forward
with
our
compliance
with,
as
you
say,
the
daily
loads,
the
ms4
permit,
which
gets
into
ours.
What,
if
any
Place
does
a
land
preservation
outside
of
the
county
have
in
meeting
our
goals
as
a
community
for
producing
and
better
improving
the
Chesapeake
Bay
as
a
whole?
I
The
reason
I
ask
that
is,
you
know
we
are
a
very
dense
urban
community
which
has
different
issues,
and
we
we
could
do
that,
but
you
know
I
think
you
know
we.
We
have
almost
100
acres
in
Loudoun
County,
currently,
which
is
own
more
or
less
through
the
county,
through
varying
maze.
What,
if
any
methods?
Can
we
utilize
to
improve
the
bay
through
land,
trust
and
preservation
outside
of
the
county?
Is
that
possible
at
all,
as
staff
committee,
opined
up
on
that
for
a
minute,
I
appreciate
it.
Y
Good
evening
I'm,
Kristen,
joliker
and
I
work
with
both
Lily
and
Ty.
You
know
I
think
you
can
appreciate
that
locally.
Our
our
influence
is
is
through
our
Northern
Virginia
combined
efforts.
Y
I
Has
there
been
any
Outreach
further
beyond
the
northern
Virginia
region,
given
that
the
Chesapeake
Bay
is
almost
all
the
way
down
to
Rockingham
County
and
then
all
the
way
out
to
northumber
Inland
Lancaster
County.
Y
I
I
just
would
continue
to
encourage
staff
to
think
broader
and
bigger
than
than
just
Nova
in
finding
solutions
for
making
the
the
quote
Bay
better
for
everyone
across
the
state,
because
I
think
that
they
are
are
possible
out
there
and
we
can
bring
Financial
Resources
to
bear
that.
Many
parts
of
the
state
would
find
astonishing
thanks.
Commissioner
Patel.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
to
the
County
Board
that
they
adopt
the
attached
resolution
to
the
step
report
dated
January
23
2023
to
a
update
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan,
as
shown
in
attachment
one.
M
A
Lynn
tell
me
hi
Hughes
aye
Patel
I.
The
motion
carries
ten
to
zero.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
I
think
that
that
concludes
all
the
presentations
now
we're
at
PC
business
thanks
Ray.
Yes,
so
we
have
a
couple
of
things:
I
wanted
to
just
kind
of
resolve
all
the
things
that
we
needed
to
vote
on
before
we
move
on
to
our
reports
and
I'm,
going
to
seek
unanimous,
unanimous
consent
on
on
them
as
well.
So.
O
Let's
see
Madam
chair,
yes,
I
did
have
two
potential
amendments
to
the
to
the
minutes
from
the
January
11th.
O
So,
on
page
six
right
above
the
paragraph
that
says
chairs
report
where
I
am
seconding,
the
motion
I
was
doing
so
for
the
purposes
of
discussion.
O
A
O
Chair,
okay,
so
that
should
be
a
unit,
a
unanimous
consent
request
from
Madam
chair
to
table
that
motion,
which
was
approved
because
without
it
doesn't
make
sense
because
there
isn't
a
second
in
that
sentence.
A
Okay,
wonderful
with
this
amendment,
I'm
going
to
seek
unanimous
consent
for
approval
of
the
January.
These
are
the
January
11th
minutes
any
objection.
Okay,
so
the
January
11th
minutes
are
approved.
How
about
the
January
9th
commissioner?
Is
there
an
edit
on
that
one?
No
okay,
I
seek
unanimous
consent
for
approval
of
the
January
9th
meeting
minutes
any
objection,
so
those
minutes
are
approved
the
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
we
didn't.
We
didn't
accept
the
2022
year-end
report,
so
I'm
going
to
seek
unanimous
consent
to
accept
the
2022
year.
End
report.
A
Seeing
no
objection,
the
report
is
accepted,
I'm,
going
to
seek
unanimous
consent
to
approve
the
calendar
for
Planning
Commission
representation
to
County
board
meetings
in
2023.
Any
objection,
okay,
so
those
that
calendar
is
approved
and
I
am
seeking
unanimous
consent
to
approve
the
2023
liaison
assignments.
A
Any
objection,
no
objection,
and
so
those
liaison
assignments
are
approved
as
well.
So
now
just
a
few
things
to
wind
us
up
for
tonight,
because
tonight's,
our
only
meeting,
remember
site
plan
review
committee.
Commissioner
Peterson
any
reports-
oh
wait,
you
do.
We
have
any
rosters.
Thank.
K
You,
yes,
we
have
two
rosters
to
adopt
by
hopefully
unanimous
consent
and
then
one
to
amend
so
colleagues,
you
recently
received
a
proposed
sprc
subgroup
rosters
for
Wells.
K
Wells
Fargo
Verizon
and
Crystal
Towers
three
Madame
chair
I,
asked
for
your
unanimous
consent
in
approving
these
rosters.
K
As
so
I
sent
you
all
a
report
for
February
of
all
of
the
projects
we
have
going
on,
we
are
getting
to
have
lower
commissioner
numbers,
while
we
also
continue
to
have
a
lot
of
projects.
So
if
you
do
have
capacity
to
do
more
than
one
project
at
a
time,
we
already
have
a
few
people
who
are
have
already
taken
that
on.
K
A
I
I
will
just
note
here
that
we
have
some
applications
that
have
come
in
and
I
will
I
just
want
to
make
a
note
that
I
appreciate
commissioner
Weir,
who
has
met
with
many
of
the
applicants.
A
I,
don't
want
to
say
how
many
because
I
just
want
you
guys
to
know
that
we
are
especially
you,
commissioner,
Peterson.
We
are
actively
trying
to
get
people
onto
our
commission.
I
promise
you
even
as
recently
as
having
a
conversation
today,
so
we
are
hopeful
that
we
will
be
able
to
get
some
discussions
finalized
with
the
hope
that
we
can
onboard
people
in
March,
but
I
I
too
worry
with
your
email
that
you
sent
out
earlier
today
about.
A
We
might
not
be
able
to
see
anybody
necessarily
until
April,
but
we
will
continue
to
do
the
best.
We
can
and
thank
you
so
much
for
continuing
to
lead
our
sprc
process
long-range
planning
committee.
H
Yes,
we
have
a
meeting
that
is
scheduled
for
February
28th
and
that
will
be
for
us
to
discuss
the
upcoming
meeting
work
work
plan
meeting
for
cphd.
That
would
be
before
the
County
Board
in
early
March.
So
we
can
discuss
what
our
priorities
would
be,
that
we
would
recommend
for
cphd
to
be
working
on.
W
Turn
this
on
so
we
had
a
great
meeting
on
January
17th
about
storm
water
management,
and
we
addressed
some
of
the
issues
on
the
s3a
about
essentially
transition
some
of
the
infrastructure
from
a
major
utility
to
a
minor
utility
which
I
think
will
add
some
flexibility
to
fencing
and
some
of
the
utility
sort
of
battery
packs
and
whatnot.
We
also
talked
about
retaining
walls
and
fences,
and
things
like
that.
So
that
is
all
about
encroaching.
Also.
The
other
thing
was
encroaching
on
setbacks
with
benches
and
light
fixtures
and
fencing
and
Gates.
W
W
You
know
and
they're
reviewing
all
of
the
zoning
language,
just
making
sure
things
sort
of
coordinate
and
don't
have
conflict
which
I
guess
that's
fairly
routine.
Our
next
meeting
is
on
Valentine's
Day.
So
if
anyone
wants
to
come
out
on
Valentine's
Day
it'll
be
about
Market
resiliency,
wonderful,.
V
Is
me
no
update
still
expecting
career
center
to
come
back
later
this
year?
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
later,
but
later.
I
The
only
thing
of
note
is
that
Mr
matusik
will
be
moving
into
second
place
for
our
staff
liaison
and
Olivia
sontalk
has
taken
the
new
role
as
our
lead
for
the
form-based
code
area.
So
we're
welcoming
to
working
with
her
this
year.
A
Okay,
so
that
is
officially
all
of
the
business
I
do
want
to
take
a
moment
in
addition
to
thanking
chair.
We're.
Excuse
me,
commissioner,
Weir,
for
all
of
his
efforts
in
trying
to
find
us
some
new
Commissioners.
A
We
have
a
present
for
you
for
all
of
your
leadership
last
year.
We
thank
you
for
everything.
You've
done
in
your
chairmanship,.
P
L
L
Oh
lovely,
thank
you.
This
is
a
it's
a
gavel
with
my
name
and
and
year
on
it.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
It
was
I'll
I'll.
Just
refer
to
what
I
had
said
a
couple
months
ago,
but
it
was
a
pleasure
to
serve
I,
actually
have
something
for
you
which
you've
already
seen.
It
was
really
more
of
a
promise
than
a
threat.
Your
own
copy
of
Robert's
Rules
of
Order,
with
the
Stanley
Cup
names
of
recent
chairs
on
it.
A
I
didn't
I
would
forgot
one
thing.
Thank
you,
commissioner
Peterson
for
keeping
us
in
line.
We
have
this
one
final
motion
about
speaker
times
and
so
I'm
gonna
read
the
motion,
and
then
we
can
have
any
discussion
that
any
that
we
are
interested
in
having
I'm
going
to
move
that
we
amend
our
bylaws
section
or
article
four
to
add
paragraph
10.
A
Well,
that's
a
good
question:
I
didn't
really
want
to
do
it.
Okay,
we're
going
to
move
it
as
a
policy
as
a
policy
of
the
Planning
Commission
I
move
that
individual
that
we
amend
speaking
times
to
provide
as
follows.
Individuals
interested
in
commenting
on
matters
before
the
Planning
Commission
will
have
a
maximum
speaking
time
of
two
minutes.
Representatives
of
County,
approved
commissions
or
advisory
boards
interested
in
commenting
on
matters
before
the
Planning
Commission
also
will
have
a
maximum
speaking
time
or
I'm.
Sorry,
we'll
have
a
maximum
seeking
time
of
three
minutes.
L
O
I
think
you
should
just
I
think
we
did.
A
Individuals
interested
in
commenting
on
matters
before
the
Planning
Commission
will
have
a
maximum
speaking
time
of
two
minutes.
Representatives
of
County,
approved
commissions
or
advisory
boards
interested
in
commenting
on
matters
before
the
Planning
Commission
will
have
a
maximum
speaking
time
of
three
minutes.
Is
there
a
second
on
the
substituted
motion.
W
I
understand
what
we're
doing
here:
I
I,
guess:
I
was
just
thinking
through
a
little
bit
and
I
support
the
motion:
I'm,
not
against
emotion,
but
I,
think
you
know
I'm
a
little
nervous
that
we're
fixing
a
problem
or
we're
making
a
solution
for
a
problem
that
we're
not
sure
it
exists.
I
think
we
do
have
like
you
know
with
the
mmh.
We
had
a
large
contingent
of
speakers.
W
You
know
so
I
I,
think
Clarity
and
managing
people's
expectation
is
good,
but
I'm
just
I'm
just
a
little
concerned
that
you
know
our
job
here
is
to
represent
the
community
as
a
whole
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
But
I.
You
know
I
think
I,
think
it's
a
good
thing
to
manage
people's
expectations.
I'm
just
not
sure
that
we're
really
addressing
a
problem
just
by
way
of
sort
of
a
thought
and.
A
And
I
will
just
say:
I
think
it's
beyond.
For
me,
it's
beyond
any
conversations,
including
missing
middle
or
anything
else.
That's
coming
before
the
Planning
Commission
I
think
that
what
we
keep
facing
is
this
we're
constantly
trying
to
figure
out
who
is
an
organization
who
is
you
know
which
box
do
people
fit
in
I?
Think
for
me,
this
is
an
equity
issue,
making
sure
that
people
understand
that
we're
not
you
know
it's
not
a
hierarchy
right
and
so
I
think
we
just
need
to
provide
some
clarity,
any
just
go
ahead.
R
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
at
that
Podium
as
a
civic
association
president
in
a
civic
association
that
had
a
whole
lot
of
stuff
going
on
and
I
think
two
minutes
for
an
individual
who
can
also
write
chapters
that
we
will
read
and
as
a
former
civic
association
president
I
never
used
five
minutes.
I
couldn't
have
come
up
with
five
minutes
of
stuff,
especially
after
all
the
letters
I
think
two
and
three
minutes
is
fair
for
everybody.
That's
that's.
My
personal
opinion
are.
L
L
We
know
that
it's
gonna
We
Know
of
at
least
one
instance
when
we're
going
to
have
to
be
able
to
point
to
something
coming
up,
and
we
never.
We
don't
know
when
it's
going
to
happen
again.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
wouldn't
have
expected
the
turnout
that
we
got
for
the
Pentagon
City
sector
plan
right,
and
so
it's
just
you
know
there
are
always
going
to
be
questions
and,
and
then
we
have
to
exercise
discretion
and
different
shares.
Different
years
can
exercise
discretion
on
different
ways.
I
I,
just
think
it's
better.
L
O
Just
a
question
Madam
chair
at
our
previous,
our
previous
meeting,
there
was
just
a
fair
amount
of
discussion
about
having
sign
up,
maybe
a
certain
amount
of
time
before
the
meeting
to
help
aid
staff
pay.
The
chair.
A
Would
just
note,
though,
we
had
thanks.
O
A
So
there
was
some
discretion
in
that
and
we
had,
as
Mr
burn
pointed
out
this
evening.
He
was
he
missed
that
deadline
and
we
because
of
the
agenda,
we
were
able
to
accommodate
him
speaking
right.
So
right.
O
A
Okay,
perfect,
thank
you.
So
are
we
ready
to
vote.
K
Oh
commissioner,
so
I
just
had
a
question
because
I'm
looking
at
the
language
that
was
sent
around
earlier,
so
representatives
of
County
approved
commissions
or
advisory
boards,
interested
in
commenting
get
three
minutes.
Would
that
include?
Civic
associations
is
a
civic
association,
a
county,
approved
commission
or
Advisory
board,
so
Civic
associations
would
now
get
two
minutes.
A
O
M
A
Patel
I,
the
motion
carries
ten
to
zero.
Hey
thanks
friends
for
a
wonderful
evening.
Thank
you
for
very
productive
meeting
tonight
and
let
me
just
close
with
something
here.
The
matters
that
were
heard
this
evening
will
be
before
the
County
Board
on
February
18th,
representing
Planning
Commission
will
be,
commissioner.
Thank
you
very
much
for
doing
that.
Commissioner
schroll.
A
Thank
you
to
the
staff
applicants,
members
of
the
public
for
your
time,
consideration
and
patience.
Thank
you
all.
Thank
you
also
to
the
staff
who
work
diligently
to
make
tonight's
in-person
and
hybrid
meeting
possible.
The
commission
is
now
adjourned.