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sure
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and
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me
hi
Charlie,
hi
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right
now?
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are.
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are
okay
and
how
about
commissioner
Peterson
hi?
Thank
you
very
much.
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that
is
seven,
eight,
eight
and
eight
eyes.
The
motion
carries
okay,
Madam
Clerk.
D
Thank
you
good
evening.
My
name
is
Ty
asphalt,
I'm
in
the
Department
of
Environmental
Services
in
the
office
of
sustainability
and
Environmental
Management
we're
going
to
go
over
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan.
It
was
last
published
in
2001.
It's
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
It's
been
over
20
years,
so
there
are
many
changes
in
the
county
stormwater
program
since
2001
and
we've
gone
through
the
process
of
updating
this
plan.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Lily,
to
give
us
a
background
on
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan
and
will
go
back
and
forth.
E
First,
a
little
bit
of
background
about
where
this
is
coming
from,
so
there
are
three
different
documents
that
we'll
reference
tonight
having
to
do
with
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation.
First,
the
Chesapeake
Bay
Act
was
a
piece
of
Virginia
legislation
originally
enacted
in
1988,
and
it
has
had
other
updates
since
then
that
focused
on
protecting
water
quality
through
land
use
management.
E
Then
from
that
came
two
other
things,
so
a
local
Arlington,
County,
Chesapeake,
Bay
ordinance
the
county
was
required
to
adopt
in
order
to
comply
with
the
Virginia's
bay
act
and
then
also
coming
out
of
the
bay
Act
was
the
requirement
for
Arlington
and
other
localities
to
adopt
a
comprehensive
plan
element.
The
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan,
which
we
did
originally
again
in
2001,
is
Tyson,
so
we
actually,
we
often
get
questions
about
this.
We're
going
to
kind
of
address
it
up
front.
E
The
takeaway
message
from
this
slide
here
is
that
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plans
Genesis,
is
completely
separate
from
any
nutrient
and
sediment
reduction
requirements
for
the
Chesapeake
Bay
total
maximum
daily
load.
If
you've
heard
about
that,
so
that's
sort
of
the
pollution
diet
for
the
Chesapeake
Bay,
and
this
is
separate
from
that.
That's
not
what
we're
talking
about
tonight
and
if
folks
have
questions
we
can
revisit
this
slide
and
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
it.
D
We
were
audited
by
the
Virginia
Department
of
Environmental
Quality,
so
they
looked
at
the
Arlington
County's
Chesapeake
Bay,
preservation
program.
They
visited
active
construction
sites
and
they
looked
at
approved
plans
and
they
also
looked
at
the
plan
and
they
noted
that
it
is
outdated
and
part
of
the
requirements
of
the
bay
act.
We're
supposed
to
have
updated,
Chesapeake,
Bay
preservation
plan.
So
we
were,
we
were
under
corrective
action
and
the
compliance
schedule
to
plan
updated
and
adopted
by
this
year,
and
we
were
on
a
tight
timeline
to
update
the
plan.
D
So
what
are
resource
protection
areas?
We
have
mentioned
RP
several
times
now,
so
the
Blue
Line
there
is
an
imaginary
stream
and
there's
a
100
foot
buffer
from
from
water
bodies.
That
is
the
100
foot
buffer.
So
the
idea
is
that
this
area
is
protected
and
there
are
additional
permitting
requirements
for
projects
in
the
RPA.
D
D
So
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan,
as
required
by
the
bay
act.
It
has
to
include
areas
so
the
maps
have
to
show
where
the
resource
protection
areas
are
in
the
county.
So
this
Maps
were
updated
in
2018.
It
just
wasn't
part
of
the
plan,
so
we
have
included
that
as
part
of
the
plan.
We
also
have
a
narrative
on
how
we
permit
projects
in
the
resource
protection
areas,
and
that
has
also
been
improved
since
2001
there's
several
ordinances
in
place
and
in
addition
to
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
ordinance.
So
we
have
Incorporated
the
requirements.
D
So
there
are
several
planning
documents
that
are
relevant
to
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan,
so
we
are
showing
here
on
this
Slide
the
forestry
natural
resources
plan,
which
is
currently
under
development,
the
public
spaces
master
plan
and
the
stormwater
master
plan
which
were
finalized
before
so.
What
we've
done
is
we've
referenced
all
the
sections
that
are
relevant
to
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan
and
coordinated
with
the
fnrp
folks
as
that's
being
developed
as
well.
E
All
right
and
as
Ty
mentioned,
we
did
coordinate
with
the
folks
on
the
forestry
and
natural
resources
plan,
and
that
was
also
in
response
to
stakeholder
requests.
So
we
do
have
a
letter
of
support
from
the
forestry
and
Natural
Resources
Commission
after
making
those
revisions,
so
we
also
did
in
terms
of
other
stakeholder
input.
We
did
also
receive
some
requests
to
expand
the
scope
of
the
plan,
but
then
we
explained
the
reasons
for
the
current
scope
and
folks
did
understand
that.
E
A
B
For
this
item,
okay,
so
it
matters
with
the
commission.
I
don't
know
if
we
really
need
to
go
into
buckets
at
this
point.
Does
anybody
have
anything
that
they
want
to
any
questions
that
they
have?
F
G
My
name
is
Kristen
jolicker
and
I
work
with
Ty
and
Lily
and
I
guess
I'll
address
that.
So
the
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan
really
addresses
the
width
and
breadth
of
our
current
stormwater
program.
It
doesn't
necessarily
address
what
growth
in
terms
of
a
missing
middle
might
the
impact
that
might
have
on
the
Chesapeake
Bay
those
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
areas.
F
I
move
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
the
County
Board
adopt
the
attached
resolution
to
authorize
advertisement
of
public
hearings
by
the
Planning
Commission
on
January
9
2023
and
by
the
County
Board
on
January
21st
2023.
To
consider
the
adoption
of
an
updated
Chesapeake
Bay
preservation
plan,
which
is
an
element
of
the
County's
comprehensive
plan.
H
B
I
B
J
B
K
A
3402017018
and
265
ccbp
m-2
Cesc
Plaza,
limited
partnership,
Cesc
Plaza
5,
limited
partnership
for
Crystal
City
Block
plan,
which
provides
supplemental
long-range
planning
guidance
and
an
integrated
planning
approach
for
Block
M,
as
identified
in
Crystal
City
sector
plan
to
find
by
20th
Street
South
to
the
North
23rd
Street
South
to
the
South
Crystal
Drive
to
the
east
and
Richmond
Highway
to
the
West.
This
block
pan
supports
and
further
refines
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan
recommendations
for
this
block.
A
The
block
plan
illustrates
and
reaffirms
desired,
qualities
relating
to
block
structure,
neighborhood
form,
land
uses,
accessibility
and
circulation,
public
open
spaces,
sustainable
development
and
other
plan
elements.
It
provides
conceptual
build-out
scenarios
related
to
site
plans,
number
11,
458
and
464
that
each
reflect
a
variety
of
sector
plan,
recommendations,
RPC
number.
A
3402017018
and
265.
modifications
of
zoning
ordinance
requirements
include
additional
density,
reduced
parking
ratios
required
loading
spaces,
Tower
separation,
modification
density
exclusions
and
other
modifications
as
necessary
to
achieve
the
proposed
development
plan
applicable
policies
at
the
general
land
use
plan,
High
apartment
office,
hotel
and
Crystal
City,
coordinated,
Redevelopment,
District,
Note,
1
Crystal
City
sector
plan
and
Arlington
County
retail
plan.
B
L
Thank
you
good
evening,
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
I
am
Michael
Cullen
with
the
Arlington
County
cphd
Planning
division
tonight
I'll
be
providing
the
staff
overview
of
the
application
for
the
Crystal
Plaza
5
site
plan
project
and
the
associated
agenda
items.
L
The
proposed
project
site
is
located
at
the
southeast
corner
of
Block
M
and
the
Crystal
City
neighborhood
bookending,
the
block
with
the
Crystal
Plaza
one
project
that
was
approved
in
2021.
The
site
is
currently
occupied
by
the
Crystal
Plaza
5
office
building
and
until
this
year
a
portion
of
the
one-story
retail
shops
along
Crystal
Drive
site,
subject
to
the
amendment
to
site
plan.
11
include
the
220
20th
Street
departments,
the
Crystal
Plaza
5
3
and
4
Office
Buildings,
the
Crystal
City
shops
and
the
mixed
residential
office.
Building
at
the
Crystal
Plaza
5
site.
L
The
the
glut
map
designation
for
the
site
highlighted
here
is
a
high
office
apartment
Hotel.
The
site
is
located
in
the
Crystal
City
coordinated
Redevelopment
district
with
two
locations
for
public
space
identified.
The
site
is
currently
zoned
Co
mixed
use,
district
and
the
applicant
proposes
a
rezoning
to
Co
Crystal
City,
which
corresponds
to
the
glove
designation.
L
The
block
was
originally
approved
for
development
as
Crystal
Plaza
in
1963.
in
2021,
a
a
Crystal
City
Block
plan
was
approved
for
the
block
concurrently
with
the
Crystal
Plaza
one
project
and
the
Crystal
City
pdsp
was
also
approved
in
2020,
with
the
subject
Plaza
5
site
included,
the
pdsp
identifies
use
and
density
allocations
across
a
number
of
sites
in
Crystal
City,
with
a
framework
of
community
benefits
and
contributions
to
achieve
the
allocated
density.
As
you
may
recall,
an
amendment
to
the
pdsp
was
approved
last
month
in
anticipation
of
this
site
plan.
L
The
applicant
also
proposes
a
new
north-south
connection
that
provides
parking
and
loading
access
located
between
the
two
towers.
The
project
would
bring
the
site
grade
down
to
the
sidewalk
level
along
Crystal,
Drive
and
23rd
Street,
and
in
so
doing
would
relocate
the
existing
Crystal
City
Underground
entrance
from
23rd
Street
to
the
north
side
of
the
site.
Requested
modifications
include
additional
density,
reduced
parking
ratios
required
loading,
spaces
density
exclusions
and
Tower
separation
from
the
existing
Plaza
6
building
to
the
West.
L
So
each
of
the
two
new
buildings
has
been
designed
by
a
different
architect:
the
West
Tower
at
223
23rd
Street,
wraps
around
the
proposed
interim
23rd
Street
Plaza
area
and
would
contain
approximately
613
units
with
about
8
000
square
feet
of
ground
floor
retail.
Both
buildings
are
30
stories
tall
with
building
Heights
slightly
greater
than
300
feet.
L
Both
buildings
are
also
proposed
to
obtain
a
minimum
lead
gold
certification,
the
2250
building
is
the
larger
of
the
two
located
at
the
corner
of
Crystal
Drive
and
23rd
Street,
and
would
contain
over
800
units
with
approximately
18
000
square
feet
of
ground
floor
retail.
L
The
app
can
also
request
vacations
for
easements
located
along
23rd
Street
South,
which
will
be
replaced
by
new
easements
required
by
site
plan
condition
and
include
compensation
to
the
county.
This
plot
shows
the
location
of
the
existing
public,
Street
and
utilities
easement
to
be
vacated,
and
this
plant
shows
the
location
of
the
existing
public,
sidewalk
and
utilities.
L
He's
meant
to
be
vacated
so
planning
and
policy
guidance
for
redevelopment
is
primarily
provided
in
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan
and
in
the
next
few
slides
we'll
just
outline
some
relevant
guidance
and
recommendations
for
the
project
in
the
course
of
review
staff.
Analyzed
the
project
for
compliance
with
counting
goals
and
policies
outlines
outlined
in
the
documents
that
are
listed
here,
including
the
administrative
guidance
for
office,
conversions,
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan,
the
residential
parking
guidelines,
the
zoning
ordinance
and
then
a
number
of
other
applicable
documents
and
guidelines
as
a
refresher.
L
Given
how
important
these
particular
guidelines
are
to
the
evolution
of
the
project.
The
sector
plan
identifies
building
design
guidelines
that
both
encourage
pedestrian
scale
design
and
regulate
density
in
Crystal
City.
These
include
maximum
Building
height
Tower
coverage,
limited
to
85
across
the
block,
with
Tower
floors,
no
greater
than
35
000
square
feet
on
a
single
level
and
additional
guidance
for
defining
building
podiums
Tower
sculpting
through
facade,
stepbacks
and
distinguished
building
tops
with
further
sculpting
and
enhanced
mechanical
Penthouse
screening.
L
The
sector
plan
also
identifies
two
new
public
open
spaces
that
are
expected
to
be
delivered
with
Redevelopment
of
this
subject.
Site
labeled
as
Open
Spaces,
10
and
11
open
space,
10
known
as
the
23rd
Street
Plaza,
is
envisioned
as
a
large
13,
000
square
foot
space
to
be
framed
with
retail
storefront
and
and
quote
noteworthy
architecture.
The
open
space
11
simply
described
as
a
landscaped
Plaza
with
tables
and
seating
for
outdoor
dining
is
envisioned
as
a
smaller
3
300
square
foot.
L
Space,
with
flexibility
from
the
exact
location
identified
in
the
SEC
in
the
sector
plan
in
the
following,
slides
I
will
go
further,
I'll
further
detail:
the
Rel,
the
Project's
Evolution,
following
both
staff
and
Community
feedback
throughout
the
site
plan
review
process.
The
applicant
made
changes
to
the
building
design
based
on
staff
and
Community
comments,
which
include
address
addressing
identified
deviations
from
the
sector
plan
staff
identified
specific
frontages
highlighted
in
red
here
that
should
be
revised
to
encourage
pedestrian
scale,
design
and
building
through
Tower
step
backs.
L
Additional
feedback
requested,
defining
building
tops
through
facade
materials
and
sculpting,
and
implementation
of
retail
Frontage
design
along
23rd
Street
Plaza
and
the
West
Tower
facade
along
a
future
Clark
Bell
Street
alignment
on
the
West
Tower.
The
applicant
did
Implement
a
five
foot
Tower
step
back
both
on
23rd
Street
along
the
north
side
of
the
23rd
Street
Plaza
and
23rd
Street
itself.
L
Stairs
located
at
the
northwest
corner
of
the
site,
provide
pedestrian
access
to
the
center
of
the
block
and
the
north-south
connection
moves
parking
and
loading
access
off
primary
streets
consistent
with
sector
plan
guidance.
In
addition,
the
project
will
include
coordination
with
the
county
and
a
contribution
to
the
23rd
Street
South
realignment
Transportation
project
which
will
implement
the
envisioned
full
Street
section
from
the
sector
plan
on
23rd,
continuing
the
design
to
Route
1
in
coordination
with
VDOT
and
include
a
narrowed
entrance
to
the
Crystal
Park
Garage
across
Crystal
Drive.
L
The
project
includes
a
new
underground
garage
structure
connecting
to
the
existing
garage
below
much
of
the
block,
which
will
not
exceed
15
percent
compact
parking
spaces
and
will
include
visitor
and
Ada
parking
spaces
on
site.
However,
the
applicant
proposes
a
0.3
spaces
per
unit
parking
ratio
that
is
achieved
by
including
approximately
200
spaces
located
off-site
in
the
crystal
parks
office
complex
across
Crystal
Drive.
Each
Tower
includes
five
loading
spaces.
L
However,
the
zoning
ordinance
requires
six
loading
spaces
in
the
East
Tower
due
to
the
number
of
proposed
units,
and
the
applicant
has
requested
a
modification
for
that.
One
space
difference
combined
by
bike
parking
includes
579
class
1
spaces
located
in
both
garages
below
the
West
Tower
and
on
the
ground
floor
of
each
building.
L
L
on
the
estate
plan,
11
block
and
modifications
for
commercial
parking
ratios
across
those
those
site
plan,
11
sites
and
the
Office
Buildings,
located
on
the
Crystal
Park
block,
approved
under
site
plan
167..
The
residential
parking
guidelines
support
the
proposed
parking
ratio
for
the
Plaza
5
project,
and
the
diagram
on
the
right
helps
illustrate
how
this
request
is
consistent
with
the
off-site
shared
parking
guidance
as
it
is
within
800
feet
of
the
subject.
Block
and
the
buildings
have
the
same
owner.
L
The
project
will
deliver
35
committed,
affordable
units
off-site
at
the
riverhouse
development
and
provide
an
additional
4.75
ahif
contribution
above
the
base,
3.37
million
ahif
contribution
for
site
plans.
The
project
will
construct
two
new
public
spaces
with
a
public
park
easement
provided
for
the
23rd
Street
Plaza.
L
Would
you
like
me
to
continue
again
just
have
a
couple
more
slides.
L
Yeah,
this
does
include
the
third
item.
Finally,
the
applicants
will
also
provide
a
3.5
million
dollars
for
infrastructure
improvements
associated
with
the
23rd
Street
realignment
project
foreign.
So
public
review
for
the
project
began
with
lrpc
for
the
Crystal
City
Block
plan,
starting
in
February
of
2022,
and
went
through
the
sprc
process
between
May
and
September
and
included
additional
commissions
in
November,
with
c2e2
housing,
commission
and
Parks
and
Recreation,
and
then
recently,
a
Transportation
Commission
on
January
5th.
L
So
in
closing,
the
project
would
conform
to
and
achieve
a
wide
range
of
the
County's
goals
and
objectives,
including
General
adherence
to
design
guidance
of
the
sector
plan,
realization
of
streetscapes
envisioned
in
the
sector
plan
and
protected
bicycle
infrastructure
consistent
with
the
Crystal
City
bike,
Network
guidance,
improved
pedestrian
circulation
and
maintaining
a
pedestrian
connection
to
the
Crystal
City
Underground
deliver
infrastructure
contributions
that
will
help
deliver
the
23rd
Street
design
envisioned
in
the
sector
plan
deliver
public
spaces
Envision
in
the
sector
plan
commitments
to
both
the
off-site
35
units
of
affordable
housing
and
a
total
8.12
a
hip
contribution,
and
then
sustainability,
commitments
which
are
consistent
with
the
current
Green
Building
incentive
policy,
which
is
greater
than
the
commitment
originally
approved
under
the
Crystal
City
pdsp
in
2020.
L
M
As
Michael
mentioned
right
now,
there
is
a
vacant
office
building
that
was
built
in
the
60s
that
sits
on
this
light
today
on
the
site
today.
One
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
was
that
this
site
is
sloped
at
various
different
grades,
which
has
created
some
challenging
pedestrian
conditions
that
we
hope
to
cure
with
our
new
site
plan
and
to
summarize
across
both
projects.
M
As
you
move
further
right,
you
hit
our
north
south
connection,
which
is
the
curbless
street,
designed
to
pull
parking
and
loading
entries
off
of
23rd
Street
and
Crystal
Drive
and
minimize
the
congestion
that
may
occur
on
those
streets
and,
as
you
move
further
east,
you
have
the
2250,
Crystal,
Drive,
Building
and
atop
dot.
The
East-West
connection
to
the
north
and
I
just
want
to
call
out
these
connections,
because
they've
played
a
key
role
in
creating
more
pedestrian
friendly
environment,
which
has
been
one
of
our
guiding
design
principles
throughout
this
process.
M
In
addition
to
that,
creating
a
bike
friendly
area
has
also
been
important
to
us
and
we
are
going
to
be
introducing
1600
feet
of
protected
bike,
Lanes
on
both
Crystal
Drive
and
23rd
Street
I'm,
going
to
let
the
design
teams
discuss
the
architecture.
But
I
just
also
wanted
to
highlight
here
that
we
had
two
different
design
Architects
on
one
site
plan,
with
the
goal
of
introducing
two
different
styles
of
buildings,
to
the
block
and
having
a
diversity
in
the
design
and
without
further
Ado
I'll
hand
it
over
to
Joe
from
FX.
N
Good
evening
my
name
is
Joe
pikiewicz
from
effects
collaborative
Architects
I'm,
going
to
talk
about
223,
23rd
Street,
the
composition
of
the
building
at
223
23rd
Street,
as
Madrid
mentioned,
is
an
L-shaped
plan,
framing
open
space
number
10
on
23rd
Street.
The
building
is
comprised
of
three
volumes:
a
North
wing
and
a
South
wing
and
a
central
connector.
We
call
the
pin
this.
The
two
volumes
at
the
north
and
south
are
cloud
in
a
red
glazed,
brick.
N
In
coordination
with
the
sprc
and
staff,
we've
made
some
refinements
to
the
building,
as
noted
before,
incorporating
a
five
foot
setback
above
the
Third
Street
on
23rd
Street,
adjusting
the
volume
of
the
pin
element
to
have
greater
articulation
with
Notches
at
the
corners,
also
revising
that
element
to
have
consistent
cladding
from
at
the
top
of
the
building
to
match
the
cladding
below.
So
it
really
forms
a
crown
into
the
building
and
we've
also
increased
the
improve
the
proportions
of
that
that
South
volume.
N
When
we
incorporate
the
five
foot
setback,
it
became
a
taller,
more
slender
volume
zooming
into
this
space
around
the
the
base
of
the
building
around
the
open
space.
We
have
created
a
two-story
element
with
framed
by
a
horizontal
Colonnade,
that
is
the
entry
into
the
building
framing
the
open
space
we
have
active
uses
with
retail,
facing
23rd
Street
and
also
in
collaboration
with
staff.
We've
we've
changed
what
was
building
amenity
into
a
retail
space
at
the
north
side
of
the
open
space.
O
Good
evening,
Clara
Weinberg
with
SCB
architecture,
so
I
want
to
share
with
you
our
vision
for
the
prominent
corner
of
23rd
and
Crystal
Drive,
so
the
building
is
modby
summarizes
quite
significant
and
a
key
anchor
to
the
district.
Our
our
vision
began
with
a
strong
Podium.
That's
really
addressing
The
Pedestrian
realm
and
on
this
page,
I
just
want
to
point
out
where
we
started
out
well
we're
showing
the
current
design
pushing
back
from
where
we
originally
proposed.
O
There
Thank
You
original
massing
on
the
left
and
working
with
staff
and
really
trying
to
further
articulate
the
massing
and
the
emphasis
on
the
podium
and
The
Pedestrian
realm.
We
shifted
five
feet:
both
the
Crystal
Drive
side
and
the
23rd
Street
side
still
emphasizing
the
arms
and
the
different
textures
between
the
different
facades,
but
highlighting
the
podium
articulation
to
that
Podium
articulation.
O
We
had
a
strong
feeling
of
making
sure
that
the
residential
is
pronounced
along
23rd
and
so
you're,
seeing
that
Center
centered
entry
that
really
denotes
a
different
use
compared
to
the
regular
rhythms
of
the
retail.
What
you
also
start
seeing
Dave
you
could
go
to
the
next
one
on
this
Podium.
You
start
seeing
the
play
of
residential
immediately
above
the
retail,
with
some
play
of
balconies.
P
Good
evening,
Andrew
cridland
with
ojb
the
project
landscape,
architect,
so
I'm
going
to
take
you
through
the
Open
Spaces.
P
So
to
start
out
again
that
was
defined
by
the
staff
presentation.
This
site
has
both
Park
10,
which
we
are
providing
8
000
square
feet
during
this
First
Development,
with
an
additional
5
000
square
feet
being
provided
with
the
future
Redevelopment
of
2221,
South,
Clark,
Street
and
then
Park
10,
which
is
you
know,
shown
in
this
diagram.
P
There's
an
open
lawn
space,
flanked
on
kind
of
the
Four
Corners
by
large
planted
areas
bermed
with
shade
trees
that
were
added
on
the
south
through
the
svrc
process
and
working
with
staff
to
provide
shading
in
that
sort
of
Southern
orientation,
plenty
of
opportunities
for
pollinators
and
seating
along
the
edge
in
the
planting
areas.
And
then
we
provided
that
sinuous
path
on
the
left,
with
a
small
dog
relief
area
both
for
the
community
and
for
residents
of
this
building.
P
Q
So
this
this
view
shows
on
the
23rd
Street
cross
section
looking
East,
so
you
can
see
here
that
the
eight
foot,
clear
Zone
amenity,
Zone,
the
five
foot
protected
bike
lane
on
the
adjacent
median,
that's
between
the
bike
lane
and
23rd
Street,
and
then
you
can't
see
it
here
quite
quite
as
well.
You
can
see
it
up
in
the
plan
view,
but
there
is
on-street
parking
for
the
parking
or
pickup
drop-off
activity
located
on
the
North
and
the
South
side
of
23rd
Street
foreign,
the
Crystal
Drive
section,
looking
North.
Q
So
again
you
can
see
the
nine
foot
clear
zone,
seven
foot,
amenity,
Zone,
again,
five
foot
protected
bike
lane
with
Mary
with
the
the
median
adjacent
to
Crystal
Drive
and
again
there
is
on
street
parking
along
Crystal
Drive
along
the
site.
Frontage.
Q
Then
again
we
talked
a
bit
about
the
north
stop
connection
already,
but
I
think
you
know
a
couple
things
to
note
here
are
how
the
loading
for
each
of
the
buildings
is
provided
on
each
side
of
the
north-south
connection,
to
pull
that
activity
off
of
23rd
Street
again,
there's
a
garage
entrance
located
just
north
of
the
loading
areas
that
does
provide
just
the
one
garage
entrance
into
the
garage
for
both
of
the
buildings
and
then
again
that
the
garage
does
connect
internally
to
the
the
existing
Crystal
Drive
garage
entrances.
Q
Another
thing
to
note
on
this
plan
is
up
at
the
North
End
of
the
the
north
south
connection.
There's
some
short-term
parking,
that's
located
along
a
connection
to
Future
Clark,
Bell
Street,
and
then
another
thing
we
just
wanted
to
highlight
is
the
bike
parking
rooms
on
in
on
the
ground
level
of
each
of
the
buildings,
so
which
is
a
nice
feature?
You
can
you
know
roll
bikes
right
in
at
the
Grand
level
and
there's
additional
bike
parking
located
in
the
garage
below
as
well.
Q
Q
And
again,
we've
discussed
regular
vehicular
parking
already
quite
a
bit,
so
I
won't
spend
too
much
time
on
this
one,
but
again
point
three
space
per
unit
plus
visitor
parking
located
on
site.
The
the
project
will
propose
243
spaces
on
site
and
then
the
additional
200
spaces
across
the
street
at
the
parks
block
on
the
east
side
of
Crystal
Drive,
again
Missouri
parking
spaces
provided
on
site,
and
then
this
is
compliant
with
off-site
share
parking
guidelines
within
the
distances
allowable
for
off-site
parking.
Q
And
then,
finally,
just
a
quick
overview
of
Transportation
improvements.
Again
we
talked
about
the
north-south
connection,
with
the
flush
curb
East-West
connection.
We
did
talk
about
this
previously,
but
there's
a
mid-block
connection
located
just
west
of
the
north-south
connection
you
can
see
here.
That's
also
adjacent
to
floating
bus
stops
provided
on
23rd
Street.
Q
R
True
hi
I'm
Mike
Babcock,
with
Sustainable
Building
Partners,
we're
the
sustainability
consultant
energy
consultant
on
the
job
and
we're
going
to
talk
real
briefly
about
some
of
the
commitments
that
have
been
made
by
the
project.
So,
as
staff
had
mentioned,
the
project
is
up
their
sustainable
performance.
R
Also,
what
we're
looking
at
is
off
site
tier
2
solar.
So
when
we
look
at
how
we
can
push
for
further
reductions
in
carbon
reductions
for
the
project
as
well
as
some
of
these
other
items
that
are
really
pushing
sustainability
forward
on
both
projects.
R
As
we
know,
a
heightened
focus
on
Energy
Efficiency
in
the
county,
it's
been
this
way
for
quite
some
time.
The
project
has
improved
upon
initial,
looks
and
in
terms
of
systems,
including
higher
level
performance
for
their
water
source,
heat
pumps,
the
incorporation
of
a
heat,
pipe
energy
recovery
system,
Advanced
controls
for
dedicated
outside
air,
as
well
as
the
energy
star
and
the
low
flow
fixtures,
all
of
which
will
reduce
the
energy
density
of
these
high
high
density
buildings.
And
we
also
want
to
note
that
this
is
continuing
to
evolve.
R
M
I
will
just
go
over
the
community
benefits
at
a
high
level,
because
Michael
covered
a
lot
of
these
I
think.
The
main
thing
themes
that
we
want
to
highlight
here
are
Transportation
open
space
and
sustainability.
These
three
are
going
to
be
significant
improvements
to
Crystal
City
and
we're
really
excited
to
be
bringing
those
forward,
so
the
realignment
of
23rd
Street,
the
construction
of
the
East-West
connection
and
the
construction
of
the
23rd,
Street
Plaza
and
participating
in
lead
gold
on
the
Green
Building
incentive
are
things
that
we're
all
very
excited
about
with
this
project.
Thank
you.
A
We
do
we
have
three
public
speakers
for
this
item.
First,
we'll
start
with
Bernard
Byrne
who's
joining
us
on
teams
Bernard.
If
you're
ready.
We
are
ready
for
your
comment.
Thank.
I
Yes,
I'm
commenting
on
the
plant
list
and
the
landscape
plan
for
this
project
for
the
landscape
plan
for
this
project.
I've
expected
five
concerns
about
these
during
the
site
plan
review
process
and
it
correspondence
with
the
applicant.
The
applicant
has
responded
well
to
my
concerns
regarding
the
plant
list,
but
not
to
the
overall
landscape
plan.
All
the
plants
are
native
to
the
United
States,
except
for
one.
The
plant
less
than
a
site
plan
sheet
l-100
contains
common
milkweed
folk
milkweed,
which
will
feed
monarch
butterfly
caterpillars.
I
However,
the
applicants
are
removed
carrots
to
defulcer
from
the
list.
This
is
a
non-native
sedge
that
may
become
invasive
sheet
down
100
this
10th
species
of
ornamental
grass
and
sedges
the
applicant
should
plant
few
of
these.
These
plants
are
wind,
pollinated,
do
not
support
pollinators;
some
are
aggressive.
It
could
grout
out
plants
that
do
support
pollinators
regarding
open
space.
That's
why
I
have
the
problems.
The
the
open
space,
DS
23rd
Street
within
open
space
10,
will
contain
a
large
Central
lawn
and
smaller
planting
areas
near
its
edges.
I
However,
lawn
support,
few
Clowney's
birds
and
other
Wildlife
for
the
many
public
spaces
in
Crystal,
City
and
elsewhere
in
all,
it
can
have
Lawns
the
county
board's.
2016
Monarch
pledge
recommends
in
the
county
work
with
developers
to
include
the
installation
of
plants
to
support
pollinate
is
the
project
will
not
adequately
come
forth
or
without
pledge?
If
a
site
plan
retains
much
of
that
lawn,
please
recommend
the
application
replaced
much
rule
of
the
law
and
open
space
10
with
a
planting
area
that
is
similar
to
those
along
its
edges.
The
areas
have
to
stay
in
order.
I
Native
plants
are
thriving
sunlight,
including
common
milkweed.
The
East
West
Connection,
open
space
11
has
too
much
pavement,
especially
at
its
West
End.
It
has
too
few
trees
and
too
few
are
planting
areas.
This
connection
will
be
mostly
shaded.
The
eighth
applicant
should
replace
some
of
the
pavement
with
areas
and
boxes
containing
trade,
tolerant
plants.
That's
what
pollinate
is
including
poke
milkweed,
the
the
north-south
connection
we
both
see
paved
and
have
few
trees.
I
This
area
will
see
sunlight
during
much
of
the
day,
the
opposite
of
replaced
much
some
of
that
with
pavement
with
areas
and
boxes
to
containing
plants
that
will
thrive
in
the
sunlight
and
support
pollinators.
This
is
an
interesting
point
coming
up
and
it's
Remote
open
space
in
front
of
the
Crystal
Plaza
6
building
at
the
West
End
of
23rd
Street
will
have
a
large
lawn,
although
it
is
part
of
the
site
plan.
The
staff
flight
report
does
not
report
with
the
spot.
Discuss
this
open
space,
which
sheet
111
l107,
shows
me
sodded.
I
The
area
will
see
sunlight
throughout
much
of
the
day.
The
athletes
replaced
the
lawn
with
native
plants
that
thrive
in
sunlight
and
support.
Pollinators
just
seems
to
have
been
oversight,
and
this
one
really
should
be
taken
out
and
I've
changed
and
areas
and
what
pollinators
I.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
burn.
S
T
Okay,
it's
on
all
right.
I
was
looking
for
a
light
okay
good
evening,
I'm
John
mcintyreich
here
with
climate
change,
energy
and
environment
commission
to
start
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
that
the
sustainability
commitment
for
this
project
has
improved
considerably
during
the
course
of
the
spr
process,
and
I'd
also
like
to
thank
jbg
Smith
for
attending
our
October
meeting
and
also
for
giving
us
a
copy
of
the
zero
carbon
assessment.
Prior
to
this
meeting
of
the
Project's
participation
in
the
Green
Building
incentive
policy
ensures
that
it
will
meet
at
the
sustainability
levels
in.
T
Ensure
a
minimum
level
of
sustainability
that's
and
contributes
to
the
County's
energy
goals
and
overall
we
scored
this
at
a
60
percent,
but
it
does
like
many
of
the
other
projects
that
we've
reviews
fall
short
and
what's
really
required
to
meet.
The
County's
goal
for
climate
for
for
carbon
neutrality
by
2050,
and
particularly
the
use
of
fossil
gas
systems
on
site
will
lock
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
for
a
decade
or
more,
at
a
time
when
rapid
reduction
is
needed
to
avoid
the
worst
consequences
of
climate
change.
T
Key
shortfalls
include
on
Energy
Efficiency.
The
project
does
commit
to
20
percent
Improvement
in
Energy
Efficiency
over
the
ashrae
Baseline.
The
zero
carbon
assessment
does,
however,
indicate
that
design
changes
could
allow
for
as
much
as
35
percent
Energy
Efficiency
gains
in
JB
G
Smith
should
seek
to
maximize
such
gains.
T
Electrification.
The
project
is
planning
for
fossil
gas
systems
for
both
HVAC
and
centralized
hot
water.
The
carbon
assessment
assess
carbon
zero
carbon
assessment,
notes
that
challenges
to
electrification
of
space,
initial
system
costs
and
operational
expenses,
but
the
building
could
be
designed
for
future
electrification
as
the
technology
is
rapidly
evolving.
We
would
struggle
and
encourage
jbg
Smith
to
continue
to
explore
options
for
Electric
System
at
the
outset
and
at
a
minimum
to
design
for
future
electrification
to
support
the
County's
carbon
neutrality
goals,
as
well
as
its
own
sustainability
goals.
30.
T
On
EVR
after
surgery
they're
meeting
the
minimum,
but
we
actually
recommend
higher
levels
of
50
percent
EV,
ready
with
10
of
spaces
with
EV,
Chargers
and
I.
Just
note
on
that
they
are
planning
on
using
carbon
offsets,
as
well
as
renewable
energy
credits
to
cover
some
of
their
greenhouse
gas
emissions
from
electricity
and
the
use
of
fossil
gas.
T
So
commend
them
on
doing
the
credits,
but
actually
would
encourage
them
to
avoid
carbon
offsets
when
they
actually
could
be
using
Design
Elements
to
reduce
carbon
emissions.
Thank
you
thank.
B
K
Yeah
hi:
this
is
David
Peterson
I'm
with
the
applicant
I.
Actually,
don't
need
to
speak,
so
I
will
yield
my
team.
My
time
back.
Thank
you.
C
The
topics
for
the
most
part,
of
course
revolve
around
Transportation
those
included
the
East-West
connection,
north-south
connection,
the
re-uh
design,
23rd
Street
South,
and
the
new
protected
bike
Lanes
on
both
23rd
Street
South
and
on
Crystal
Drive.
Those
are
all
very
well
received
by
the
Transportation
Commission.
The
other
issue
was
parking.
C
The
parking
was
deemed
appropriate
here,
the
Reconstruction
of
the
actually
across
the
street.
The
entrance
narrowing
the
entrance
was
well
received.
The
new
bike
lanes
were
very,
very
well
received.
That's
something
we're
really
very
much
looking
forward
to
and
the
fact
that
23rd
Street
South
will
be
rebuilt
from
one
end
to
the
other
rather
than
piecemeal
is
another
great
advantage
to
this.
The
commission
made
the
finding
that
the
vacations
are
consistent
with
the
master
Transportation
plan
that
was
voted
unanimously
to
approve,
as
was
this
project
itself.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
circulated
a
a
memo
and
sprc
memo
on
Saturday
evening,
so
we'll
be
referring
to
that
so
Mr
Cullen
and
the
applicant
did
walk
through
a
lot
of
these.
These
issues
that
were
discussed
during
sprc
and
the
lrspc
process.
H
Some
of
the
kind
of
key
areas
were
certainly
the
open
space.
This
neighborhood
has
been
keen
on
having
additional
open
space,
and
it's
certainly
called
for
in
this
in
the
sector
plan
and
the
applicant
is
providing
those
spaces,
albeit
in
different
dimensions,
for
for
open
space
10,
because
the
adjacent
parcel
has
yet
to
redevelop
and
then
open
space
11
is
being
provided
in
a
different
location,
but
is
larger
than
what
was
called
for
in
the
sector
plan.
H
You
know,
I,
think
during
the
discussion
tonight.
Open
space,
particularly
the
design
of
the
temporary
open
space
number
10,
is
right
for
discussion.
What
does
that?
Look
like
the
applicant
has
revised
that
that
design
so
credit
to
them.
For
that
I
think
it's
something
we
should
discuss
a
little
bit
this
evening.
The
other
item
is
kind
of
the
building.
H
Forum
massing
architectural
changes
now
as
the
applicant
and
and
staff
walk
through
there
have
been
changes
to
the
design
of
the
buildings
to
increase
setbacks,
bring
the
scale
the
building
down
to
a
more
pedestrian
scale.
There
is
one
facade
that
kind
of
Western
facade
of
the
western
building
that
will
be
facing
the
realigned
Clark
Bell.
That
does
not
have
a
step
back
so
now
candidly.
This
was
not
a
source
of
a
lot
of
discussion
at
sprc,
so
I'd
like
to
put
that
out
there.
H
There
wasn't
a
lot
a
lot
of
concern
about
it,
but
I
think
it
just.
It
was
in
the
staff
report,
maybe
something
for
a
little
bit
of
discussion
tonight
and
then
sustainability,
because
we
heard
from
chairman
of
C2
E2
kind
of
raised
some
concerns.
The
applicant
did
modify
the
proposal
and,
as
was
just
walked
through
maybe
potential
another
discussion.
H
My
intention
is
to
at
least
start
with
the
county
managers
recommendations
for
the
site
plan.
You
know
all
the
company
rezoning
and
then
the
vacations
that
we
have
the
vacation.
We
have
to
do
as
well
and
I
guess.
That
would
be
conclude.
My
report,
at
the
moment,
Madam,
chair
and
I,
would
yield
back.
Thank.
B
F
So
I
really
applaud
the
applicant's
efforts
to
increase
open
space
overall,
with
the
total
member
in
excess
of
what
was
planned
for
the
area.
I
appreciate
this
attention
to
long-term
priority
in
the
community
and
identified
in
the
sector
plan
I'd
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
ways
to
maybe
accommodate
the
Landscaping
issues
for
the
interim
Park.
F
Is
there
any
I
understand
that
there
are
some
concerns
that
the
interim
Park
doesn't
look
as
appealing
to
the
community
or
as
useful
as
it
might
and
I
wonder
if
there
are
ways
we
can
address
this
going
forward
and
or
if
you
can
give
me
a
timeline,
give
us
a
timeline
for
when
we
think
the
Redevelopment
of
the
wework
site
might
be
coming
I.
Imagine
that's
years
out.
P
Yeah,
thank
you
so
I
think
in
terms
of
the
open
space
I
think
we've
we've
tried
to
accommodate.
P
You
know
a
space
that
we
feel
like
you
know,
meets
the
the
needs
of
what
we've
heard
from
the
community
meets
the
needs
for
the
community
at
the
the
project.
You
know
provides
a
flexible,
open
space
that
can
be
used
for
a
variety
of
different
events.
We
think
that's
important,
as
called
for
in
the
sector
plan,
and
then
we've
tried
to
accommodate.
P
You
know
providing
an
insulated
open
space
kind
of
separate
from
the
street,
so
people
feel
like
when
they're
in
the
open
space
that
they're
kind
of
separate
from
you
know
the
streetscape
conditions
and
the
roadway
on
23rd
Street
and
then
we've
looked
to
you
know,
provide
you
know
seating
in
places
for
people
to
linger
places
for
pets
and
and
sort
of
variety
of
different
uses
within
that.
F
Thank
you,
I
need
to
it's
more
of
a
conversation
at
the
moment.
So,
given
that
we
didn't
hear
a
public
comment
on
this
tonight,
perhaps
you've
already
addressed
this
well
enough
that
the
community
feels
very
happy
with
it,
but
is
there?
Is
there
a
sense
that
you'd
be
willing
to
continue
working
on
this?
If
you
felt
it
wasn't
meeting
the
needs
of
the
community.
M
F
V
F
V
F
Thank
you
I.
If
this
is
an
appropriate
time,
since
this
is
open,
space,
I
would
like
to
just
comment
on
the
plantings
as
well,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
biophilic
planting
is.
P
That
that's
just
referring
to
the
the
nature
of
the
planting
and
and
just
trying
to
Green
the
space
in
general,
both
at
the
ground
floor.
And
then
we've
talked
about
kind
of
bringing
that
to
the
the
level
two
kind
of
those
setback.
Areas:
kind
of
increasing
the
amount
of
visible
green
from.
F
From
the
streets
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
okay
and
I
appreciate
Mr
Burns
comments
about
pollinators.
Just
for
the
record,
I
hope
he's
still
listening.
The
native
grasses,
even
with
their
wind-borne
seeds,
do
provide
a
valuable
food
source
to
our
Birds,
our
native
birds
in
the
winter.
In
the
early
spring,
when
food
is
scarce,
so
I'm,
all
in
favor
of
that,
would
you
consider
giving
his
comments
adding
additional
native
plantings
that
are
shade,
tolerant,
and
you
know
we
have
many
or
can
continuing
to
work
with
our
urban
forestry
staff
to
add
more
plantings.
Q
F
Yeah
excellent
this
this
raised
this
before
in
this
setting,
but
the
county
has
a
very
active
volunteer
base,
tree
stewards,
Master
natural
semester,
gardeners
we
even
have
our
own
native
plant
nursery
and
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
something
that
can
be
coordinated,
especially
when
we're
talking
about
an
interim
space
I
understand
you
probably
don't
want
to
be
involved
in
planning
this
park
twice
and
putting
a
big
investment
in
and
moving
things.
So
I
wonder
if
that's
conversation,
you
could
start
with
Vincent.
F
U
U
So
my
biggest
concern
in
a
sort
of
commissioner
gearing
is
success
of
the
nature
space.
We're
going
to
have
1400
families
more
or
less
using
we'll
just
say,
they're
exclusively
just
for
a
moment
for
argument's
sake,
the
6
000
square
foot
of
lawn
and
we're
planning
on
planting
natural
sod,
I
presume
right
all
right,
so
the
mall
doesn't
survive
this
nothing
of
in
in
our
Urban
spaces
are
our
schools
that
we
build
in
urban
environments.
U
We
use
artificial
turf,
are
areas
that
we
use
high
intensity
grass
things
and
I
will
lead
by
saying
there's
nobody
better
in
this
County
at
changing
the
plants
and
maintaining
their
landscape
than
jbg
I'm,
going
to
tell
you
that,
because
I
go
through
Crystal
City,
all
the
time
and
I
enjoy
the
color
changes
and
I
watch
your
landscape
crew
rip
out
an
entire
beautiful
lines
of
liriope
and
replace
it
with
a
beautiful
new.
You
know
set
of
of
plantings.
It's
gorgeous,
however.
I
want
this
to
be
a
success.
So
what
are
you
going
to
do?
U
P
Yeah
I
can
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
so
just
to
answer
your
question
about
the
the
structure
and
how
it's
built
so
there's
five
feet
of
cover
over
top,
so
that
allows
for
plenty
of
soil
for
trees
plants.
All
of
that
also
plenty
of
space
for
drainage
below
something
like
a
lawn
and
that's
going
to
be.
You
know
the
best
defense
is
a
lawn
that
gets
sunk
in,
gets,
wet
stays,
wet,
doesn't
dry
out,
and
then
you
have
activity
over
top
of
it
and
then
there's
opportunities
to
introduce.
P
U
I'm
glad
you've
got
that
plan
down
and
I
said
this.
For
my
colleagues,
because
I
know
you're
going
to
be
here
long
past
me
and
you
know,
I
look
at
the
Costco
building
and
regret.
You
know
the
the
beautiful
picture
I
saw
and
the
reality
I
experienced,
and
what
I
don't
want
to
see
happen
is
that
a
lawn
we
find
out
is
an
unsuccessful
method
of
providing
an
urban
park.
U
There's
a
reason:
they're,
not
very
common
I'll
put
it
that
way,
so
I'm
glad
to
know
you've
got
five
feet
of
drainage,
I'm
glad
you're
working
on
just
like
the
lawn
on
the
mall,
where
we
had
to
you
know
they
it's
the
gravel
underneath
is
a
secret.
It's
a
pond
basically,
and
it
drains
immediately.
So
I
just
want
to
leave
that
out.
There
I
want
to
have
that
public
conversation
so
that
it
becomes
a
more
conscious
conversation
for
staff.
U
Moving
forward
that
Crystal
City
is
a
really
hard
place
to
have
an
active,
lawn
I
hope
it
works.
But
if
it
doesn't,
we
need
to
be
honest
about
what
what
type
of
urban
environment
for
parks
and
open
space
we
can
actually
have
so.
I
appreciate
that
from
the
staff
and
I
look
forward
to
experiencing
this
lawn
in
the
future.
B
C
P
P
You
know
slight
reflective
light
off
of
the
buildings.
It
wasn't
specific
to
you
know,
directionally
straight
up
to
you
know:
we've
done
in
the
past:
dark
sky
compliant
uplighting,.
C
So
there
is
such
a
thing:
yeah,
it's
okay,
because
it
seems
like
not
in
it.
It
doesn't.
Intuitively
doesn't
seem
that.
P
C
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'd,
like
to
ask
the
applicant
about
whether
they
considered
kind
of
removing
fossil
fuel
from
the
building
kind
of
their
process
for
at
least
kind
of
thinking
through
that,
in
their
analysis,.
R
Yeah,
that
is
the
challenge
right.
We,
we
recognize
the
relationship
of
the
built
environment
and
the
grid
right,
and
how
does
one
lead
itself
to
the
other?
We
also
recognize,
unlike
a
Band-Aid,
that
we
rip
off
it.
We
we
work
towards
it.
I
would
say
specific
towards
this
project
with
regards
to
electrification
is
appropriate
electrification,
not
electric
resistance,
that's
actually
a
little
worse
than
gas,
basically
heating
water
and
air
with
a
filament.
R
So
what
we're
trying
to
do-
and
we
did
this
through
the
zero
carbon
analysis-
is
study.
Where
is
the
technology
today?
What
are
the
ancillary
effects
of
going
full
heat
pump
based
electrification?
R
Some
of
the
challenges
when
you're
dealing
with
high
density
buildings
like
this
is
we
have
limited
roof
area?
First
of
all,
so
if
we're
going
to
have
air
source
heat
pumps,
there's
not
enough
roof
area
to
serve
the
the
amount
of
density
that
we're
looking
at.
Also
another
thing
to
consider
when
we're
talking
about
electrification
is
capacity,
we're
talking
about
electric
cars,
more
data.
R
We
want
to
do
heat,
pump-based
heating
Solutions,
so
that
we
can
manage
our
electrical
load
a
little
bit
better.
So,
in
order
to
go
full
electric,
that's
a
significant
up
charge
or
additional
capacity
and
Transformer
that
would
require
additional
sizing
and
space,
as
you
guys
know,
but
also
when
we're
dealing
with
dense
buildings,
space
being
at
a
premium
where
our
solutions
for
mechanical
systems
in
domestic
hot
water
start
to
get
more
narrow.
R
Unlike
a
building,
that's
got
a
wide
footprint
and
maybe
four
or
five
stories,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
roof
area
that
we
can
work
with.
We
have
to
have
centrally
based
systems.
So
one
thing
that's
nice
about
the
solution
here
is
that,
while
it
is
gas
for
tempering
the
heat
pumps,
so
let's
keep
in
mind
that
the
source
of
heat
for
tempering
the
heat
pump
in
your
in
your
unit
will
be
for
gas
will
be
gas
it'll
also
be
Central
gas
for
domestic
hot
water
water.
R
However,
when
the
technology
gets
to
the
scale
that
we
want,
you
replace
one
piece
of
equipment
and
you
transform
the
whole
building
versus
having
in-unit
electric
hot
water
that
you
got
to
take
out
and
you
don't
have
the
electrical
capacity
to
do
it.
So
really
what
the
challenges
are
at.
This
scale
are
one
roof
area
for
Air,
Sport,
air
source
Technologies
to
electrical
capacity
and
three
technological
limitations
at
scale
for
centralized
heat
air
source
heat
pump
based
Solutions.
R
H
R
That's
a
great
Point,
Energy,
Efficiency
right,
more
electricity
versus
gas
and
how
that
affects
your
actually
savings.
But
let's
put
ashrae
aside
just
energy
density,
really,
what's
our
eui.
S
R
Energy
usage
intensity.
That's
what
matters
so
as
an
industry!
This
is
the
problem
we're
trying
to
solve.
How
do
we
do
electrification
air
source
in
an
environment
like
we
have
it's?
It's
not
tempered.
It
gets
pretty
cold.
So,
even
when,
on
days
like
today,
the
heat
pumps
are
going
to
be
off
and
they're
going
to
be
locked
out
and
you're
going
to
be
an
electric
resistance
mode,
which
is
worse
so
we're
trying
to
come
up
with
scaled
heat,
pump-based
Solutions
and
we've
done
these
studies,
where
it
takes
a
pretty
significant
amount
of
space.
H
V
Was
certainly
the
goal
I
mean
I.
Think
commitment
right
is
very
hard
when
we're
very
far
out
from
that
technology
being
available,
but
as
part
of
our
overarching
corporate
sustainability
goals,
we
have
established
benchmarks
for
ourselves
as
a
company
to
get
to
Net
Zero.
So
absolutely
it
says:
Technology's
come
along
we're
constantly
evaluating
those
opportunities
within
our
portfolio.
H
Yeah,
all
right
so
I
guess
two
two
comments
from
what
c22
their
letter
and
I
know.
You've
been
working
with
them
so
before
I
say
this
I
want
to
commend
you,
for
as
they
did,
for
working
with
them
and
and
updating
the
building.
I
share
their
concern,
though,
that
you
know
what
you're
doing
is
and
as
well
as
it
can
be
commended.
It
should
be
basically
anti-stakes.
H
What
you're
doing
now
is
what
every
applicant
needs
to
come
in
and
do,
and
we
have
a
building
incentive
program
and
that's
great,
but
this
is
basically
what
everybody
needs
to
do.
The
two
things
that
I
would
in
their
letter
that
I
would
highlight,
though,
won
the
the
electric
vehicle
charging.
It
is
much
more
expensive
to
come
back
later
to
to
to
install
it,
and
so
some
estimates
are
at
six
times
more
expensive
to
come.
Do
it
later
and
so
I
would
encourage
you
to.
H
The
second
one
is
your
Rex
I
understand
you're,
trying
to
offset
and
you're
trying
to
do
that,
but
Rex
are
really
a
last
resort.
They
shouldn't
really
be
our
first
one,
and
so
the
industry
is
moving
away
from
them
really
almost
entirely
a
lot
of
the
carbon
offset
programs
or
carbon
programs.
H
Don't
even
don't
even
allow
them
anymore
for
companies,
so
it
really
should
be,
and
the
rationale
is
you're
you're
buying
greenhouse
gas
benefits,
air
quality
benefits
there
somewhere
else
they're,
not
here,
and
so
you
know
something
to
be
considering
as
you're
bringing
forward
future
projects
to
c2e2
or
or
to
us,
but
I
I.
Thank
you.
B
F
I'm
just
gonna
second,
commissioner
schroll's
comments,
including
thanking
jbg
Smith,
for
their
willingness
to
meet
with
c2e2
I.
Think
that
even
given
situ's
interpretation
of
the
shortcomings
of
this,
we
get
a
little
bit
further,
every
time,
you're
willing
to
meet
with
these
commissions
and
get
closer
to
our
goals.
So
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Hughes
I.
U
Just
want
to
take
my
plug
to
remind
did
applicant
that,
in
their
environmental
and
bike
rooms
to
plan
for
e-bikes,
the
proliferation
is
coming
well,
they're,
not
standardized.
Yet
the
addition
of
120
volt
parking
is
appreciated
for
those
of
us
who
generally
use
it
and
also
consider
the
vertical
space
in
using
European
parkings
instead
of
the
standard
way,
there's
a
lot
better
options
out
there.
O
U
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
Just
would
like
to
associate
myself
with
commissioner
shro's
comments
and
I
would
encourage
the
applicant
in
the
design
team
to
start
pushing
buildings
towards
less
glazing.
I
think
you
know,
given
the
electricity
load
and
the
burden
that
we
have
with
that,
the
more
efficient
the
building
is,
the
less
glazing,
the
more
insulation
we
can
insert
I
think
that's.
The
only
caveat
I
would
throw
in.
Thank
you.
B
U
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Patel
I
was
too
excited
about
the
possibility
of
an
art
deco
Revival,
coming
up
with
the
commissioner
sarley's
comments.
I
had
a
question
for
the
applicant
or
for
staff,
but
I
probably
won't
be
able
to
answer
it.
Best
I
see
we're
we're
adding
to
our
stack.
That's
currently
growing
for
the
river
house
project,
how
many
units
this
35
on-site
units
that
will
be
provided
at
River
House.
W
Hi
Kendrick
Whitmore
with
Venable
representative
for
the
applicant.
We
will
do
some
quick
math
on
that,
commissioner
Hughes,
but
while
we
do
that,
I
do
want
to
say
that
this
River
House
stack,
as
as
you
mentioned
in
the
affordable
units
that
are
located.
There
were
part
of
the
original,
crystal
city
pdsp
that
was
negotiated
in
2018-2019
and
ultimately
approved
in
2020
and
of
the
buildings
and
development
sites
that
are
included
within
the
pdsp.
W
This
is
the
final
one,
so
so
all
of
this
has
been
kind
of
leading
up
to
this
point
in
the
the
approvals
and
in
the
the
River
House
affordable
units.
So
we
don't
anticipate
at
this
point
that
there'll
be
any
more
in
the
queue
that
would
be
providing
affordable
units
within
River
House.
L
S
U
I
simply
just
want
to
continue
to
remind
my
my
fellow
Commissioners,
that
you
know
the
eight
million
dollars
of
ahif
contribution
has
to
go
somewhere
and,
as
we
just
heard
from
commissioner
stroll
so
consciously
about
how
buying
carbon
offsets
other
places
doesn't
necessarily
bring
the
community
benefit
where
they
are.
I'm
still
100
pleased
that
the
river
house
development
continues
to
deliver
calves
while
not
exactly
right
here,
pretty
darn,
close
and
I
do
know.
U
We
have
some
crystal
house
opportunities
and
a
few
other
spots,
so
just
as
a
reminder
to
continually
push
that
we
find
a
way
to
get
them
as
close
to
the
community
as
we
possibly
can.
So
with
that.
Thank
you
to
the
applicant
thank.
B
H
H
So,
with
that
I
moved
to
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
that
the
County
Board
adopt
the
attached
ordinance
to
the
staff
report
dated
January
4th
2023
to
rezone
the
property
known
as
223
23rd,
Street
South
and
2250
Crystal
Drive
RPC
number
34-020-003-017-018.
K
K
B
H
Yes,
Madam
chair
before
I
make
it
just
after
I
make
this
motion.
We
probably
want
to
leave
a
little
time
to
see
if
there's
any
discussion
on
the
motion
sure,
but
with
that
I
move
to
the
Planning
Commission
to
recommend
that
the
County
Board
adopt
the
attached
ordinance.
The
staff
report
dated
January
4th
2023
for
the
Crystal
City
Block
plan
for
Block
M
CCB
Dash
m-2
dated
November
16
2022.
H
H
That
kind
of
the
first
iteration
of
this
was
for
the
parcels
on
the
other
side
of
the
block
that
we
considered
a
while
ago,
and
you
know
the
community
had
a
fair
amount
of
participation
at
that
time,
and
then
we
had
two
lrpcs
to
discuss
the
revised
site
plan
for
this
side
of
the
block,
and
so
you
know
I
think
the
concerns
were
about,
namely
open
space
and,
and
that
was
the
big
one
and
underground
other
things
that
which
were
dealt
with
in
site
plan
and
and
so
I
think
we're
in
a
good
spot
as
reflected
by
the
Limited
public
comment.
B
K
B
Peterson
aye
Patel
I,
tend
to
ten
to
zero
motion,
carries
motion
number
three.
H
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommended
the
County
Board
adopt
the
attached
ordinance
to
the
staff
report,
dated
January
4th
2023
to
amend
site
plan
number
11
to
remove
102
159
square
feet
of
Site
Area
from
the
subject
site
plan
located
at
220,
20th,
Street,
South,
221,
sorry,
2221,
South,
Clark,
Street,
2100,
2200
and
2250
Crystal
Drive
and
223
23rd
Street
South,
RPC
number
34-020-003-017-018-265-268.
H
Mr
Cullen
I
think
there's
a
question
about
the
the
alignment
of
the
RPC
numbers
in
the
county.
Manager's
recommended
motion
three
with
some
missing
potentially.
L
H
Okay,
no
I
mean
I
I,
think
that
the
rationale
for
this
is
they're
just
moving
density
within
the
the
sites
on
this
block
to
facilitate
this
this.
This
is
essentially
what
we
talked
about
last
month,
which
is
that
you
know
they're
moving
around
density
to
do
this,
so
we've
already
sort
of
discussed
this
with
the
pdsp,
but
this
is
just
a
formality.
K
H
I
do
appreciate
the
eagle
eyes
of
my
colleagues
that
was
a
good
catch
on
the
RPC
numbers
all
right,
so
I
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
recommend
the
County
Board
adopt
the
attached
ordinance
for
the
for
site
plan
number
464
to
permit
the
construction
of
up
to
11.46,
far
total
density,
including
approximately
one
million
147
494
square
feet
of
residential
area,
1439
units
and
twenty
two
thousand
nine
hundred
and
twenty
seven
square
feet
of
commercial
growth,
floor
area
located
at
223,
23rd,
Street,
South
and
2250
Crystal
Drive,
RPC,
34-020.
B
It's
been
seconded
but
I'm
going
to
seek
unanimous
consent
because
I
think
it's
265
and
not
zero.
Six
five.
H
I
think
before
we
vote
on
this
I
do
want
to
thank
the
applicant
for
your
continued
continuing
to
work
on
this.
You
did
a
great
job
of
continuing
to
welcome
feedback
and
amend
this
proposal
based
on
staff
input.
Commission
input,
citizen
input
so
and
you
you
can
continue
to
do
that
up
until
coming
to
PC.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
encourage
you
to
kind
of
carry
forward
what
you're
hearing
this
evening
and
doing
that
between
now
on
the
board,
but
also
after
this
building's
built.
K
B
S
S
B
I
vote.
The
motion
carries
10-0
next,
one.
H
So
this
is
for
the
vacation.
I
moved.
The
planet
commission
find
that
the
proposed
vacation
of
a
portion
of
an
easement
for
public
Street
and
utility
purposes,
and
the
vacation
of
an
easement
for
public
sidewalk
and
utilities
along
23rd
Street
South,
are
in
substantial
Accord,
with
the
adopted
comprehensive
plan
or
applicable
part
thereof.
Second,.
J
B
Charlie
hi
Hughes
hi,
we're
hi
Peterson
hi
Patel
I
motion
carries
10-0
any
other
motions,
any
other,
nothing
okay,
so
this
matter
is
concluded.
B
We
will
be
reconvening
on
January
11th
to
discuss
the
following
items:
number
one:
Arlington,
Junction
Park
glup,
amendment
number,
two:
the
five-year
review
of
the
comprehensive
Plan
Three
commercial
Market,
resilience,
the
zoning
ordinance
Amendment
and
four
PC
business.
Thank
you.
Everyone
PC
stands
in
recess.