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A
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
june
8
2022
meeting
of
the
arlington
county
planning
commission,
I
am
commission
chair
daniel
weir.
This
is
the
commission's
only
scheduled
meeting
for
this
month
tonight.
The
commission
will
hear
a
use
permit
request
for
a
four-story
multi-family
residential
building
located
at
2608
shirlington
road
in
the
green
valley
neighborhood.
A
The
commission
will
also
hear,
and
it
will
receive
an
informational
briefing
on
the
proposed
capital
improvement
plan
for
the
2023
fiscal
year.
Finally,
tonight
this
commission
will
cover
routine
commission
business,
including
adoption
of
minutes
and
committee
cheer
reports.
A
Unlike
the
county
board,
the
planning
commission
meetings
do
not
include
a
section
for
public
comment
on
matters
not
included
in
the
agenda,
and
so
there
will
unfortunately
not
be
an
opportunity
tonight
to
hear
those
comments.
However,
if
you
are
tuning
in
and
submitted
a
speaker
slip
for
any
topic
other
than
the
shirlington
road
use
permit,
I
do
earnestly
hope
that
you
will
still
consider
submitting
written
comments.
You
can
send
them
to
me
at
daniel
weir,
arlington
d-a-n-I-e-l-w-e-I-r-a-r-l-I-n-g-t-o-n.
A
One
word
at
gmail.com
and
I
will
forward
those
comments
to
the
entire
commission,
so
some
items
required
to
share
for
the
safety
of
our
staff
and
residents.
We
are
holding
this
meeting
virtually
and
welcome
to
our
commissioners,
county
staff,
applicants
and
community
members
who
are
joining
us
remotely.
A
We
are
legally
authorized
to
hold
this
virtual
meeting,
based
on
the
based
on
executive
orders,
legislation
adopted
by
the
virginia
general
assembly
and
the
county
board's
opera
continuity
of
operations
ordinance
adopted
in
march
2020..
Before
I
begin
a
few
specifics
to
orient
everyone
to
our
virtual
environment.
Tonight's
meeting
is
available
as
a
broadcast
with
closed
captioning
on
comcast,
xfinity
channels,
25
and
verizon,
fios
channels,
39
and
40,
and
the
county
website.
Audio
of
tonight's
meeting
is
available
via
phone.
A
If
commissioners,
presenters
or
speakers
lose
internet
connectivity
during
tonight's
meeting,
please
reconnect
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us
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phone,
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I
understand
that
you
can
use
the
number
provided
in
the
teams,
invite
and
post
it
online
etc.
Registered
speakers
will
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ms
badger's
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number
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registration,
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other
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and
speakers
joining
us
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teams.
A
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A
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Pre-Registration
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accommodate
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A
Public
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will
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within
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same
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frames
as
we
would
provide
in
an
in-person
meeting.
Speakers
will
have
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minutes
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comment
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individuals
and
five
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to
speak.
If
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When
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time
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the
meeting,
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presenters
and
commissioners
who
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assistance.
A
Only
please
do
not
use
the
meeting
chat
for
discussion,
public
comment,
questions
about
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items,
requests
for
more
information,
etc.
All
public
comment
must
be
shared
verbally
for
the
record
during
the
assigned
public
testimony
period.
And
lastly,
this
is
a
public
forum.
Tonight's
meeting
will
be
recorded
and
posted
to
the
county
website.
A
B
D
C
C
The
applicant
shrillington
investments
llc
is
providing
a
new
unified
commercial
slash,
mixed-use
development,
also
known
as
an
upbud
located
at
2608
shirlington
road.
The
site
is
located
in
the
green
valley
neighborhood
and
is
currently
vacant
and
partially
developed
with
gravel
and
asphalt
surface
parking.
C
The
county
right-of-way,
which
was
previously
a
portion
of
abandoned
railway,
was
acquired
by
the
county
as
a
fee,
simple
parcel
and
recently
dedicated
as
public
right-of-way,
so
that
the
adjacent
privately
owned
parcels
would
have
frontage
on
a
public
street.
The
applicant
is
requesting
the
vacation
in
order
to
facilitate
the
redevelopment
of
the
site
in
a
manner
consistent
with
the
recommendations
of
the
green
valley,
village.
Center
action
plan
hereby
referred
to
as
the
action
plan.
C
D
C
These
aqua
regulations
were
modified
to
include
new
provisions
specific
to
properties
located
in
the
green
valley,
village,
center
special
revitalization
district
in
order
to
implement
the
vision
and
goals
of
the
action
plan.
So,
pursuant
to
section
10.2.4
aquats
are
permitted
in
all
areas
within
the
special
revitalization
district,
provided
they
are
consistent
with
specific
development
standards.
C
C
So,
as
previously
noted,
section
10.2.4
seeks
to
implement
the
vision
and
goals
of
the
green
valley,
village
center
action
plan
adopted
in
2004.
The
action
plan
outlines
a
vision
for
revitalizing
green
valley
by
encouraging
mixed-use
pedestrian-friendly
development
centered
around
the
john
robinson
junior
town
square.
C
C
So
here's
a
sample
of
some
of
the
aquaman
development
standards
which
help
comprise
the
akhmad
zoning
ordnance
checklist.
So
staff
uses
this
checklist
in
assessing
an
uplift's
conformance
with
those
development
standards
and
is
included
as
appendix
a
in
the
staff
report.
C
So
one
component
of
the
project
I
wanted
to
highlight
is
its
design
and
relationship
to
the
public
realm.
So,
while
most
of
the
building's
original
design
and
materials
remain,
staff
did
work
with
the
applicant
to
enhance
the
building's
relationship
with
the
street,
including
the
original
blank
and
walls
visible
from
the
public
right
of
way.
C
The
deep
garage
entry
recess,
as
well
as
the
lack
of
streetscape
elements
so
based
on
staff
feedback,
the
afghan
work
with
staff
to
incorporate
inset
brick
panels
on
the
sides
of
the
building
installed
a
industrial
style
garage
door
located
closer
to
the
sidewalk
and
then
also
enhance
the
streetscape
with
furniture,
trees
and
pavers,
as
recommended
by
the
action
plan.
C
C
The
second
is
a
reduction
in
the
percentage
of
the
building's
facade
abutting,
the
back
of
the
sidewalk,
so
staff
supports
this
modification,
as
the
project
maintains
a
consistent
building
edge
at
the
back
of
the
sidewalk
along
shirlington
road
and
then.
Lastly,
the
applicant
is
requesting
a
reduced
parking
ratio
of
0.9
spaces
per
unit
or
27
parking
spaces
staff
supports
this
because
the
reduced
parking
ratio
is
mitigated
through
the
provision
of
11,
10
and
parking
spaces,
as
well
as
transportation
demand
management
strategies.
C
So
here's
a
timeline
of
the
public
review
process,
so
the
uk
review
committee
reviewed
this
project
at
a
virtual
meeting
on
march
31st,
which
included
participation
from
the
green
valley,
civic
association,
as
well
as
the
bowman's
hill
community
association,
both
of
whom
have
expressed
support
for
this
project.
C
And
that
concludes
staff's
presentation.
Staff
from
des
transportation,
as
well
as
real
estate,
are
also
here
and
we'd,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
before
I
just
cut
ahead
of
myself
before
we
go
to
you
before
we
go
to
the
applicant,
I
want
to
just
make
sure
again
back
to
staff
there's
nothing
additional
on
the
on
the
vacation
that
that
you'll
want
to
cover
before
we
move
on
to
discussion.
Is
that
correct,
correct?
There's
nothing
further
on
that!
Thank
you
very
much
all
right,
sorry
to
the
applicant.
My
apologies
for
cutting
you
off
adam
kirk
I'll
yield
the
floor
to
you.
A
Ms
badger,
is
there
anything
or
perhaps
mr,
what
is
there
anything
that
needs
to
be
done
in
terms
of
meeting
presenter
rights?
It
looks
like
it
looks
like
the
it
looks
like
like
presenter
settings
are
set.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
aren't
doing
anything
that
we're
aware
of
to
keep
to,
but
we
haven't
done
anything
that
we
needed
to
do.
B
No,
it
looks
like
you
have
the
proper
presentation
level
or
permissions.
If
you
want
to
try
sharing
it
again,
sometimes
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
lag.
Additionally,
if
you
want
to
email
your
presentation
to
me
at
c
badger,
arlingtonva.us,
I'm
happy
to
share
it
I'll,
do
that
right
now,.
E
Okay,
if
you
could
put
it
into
slideshow
mode,
I
will
get
started.
E
A
Miss
badger,
it's
possible.
If
you
have
two
monitors,
it's
possible
that
you
need
to
change
which
monitor
is
is
or
which
window
is
being
presented.
A
E
Problem
hi,
my
name
is
lisa
clark
and
I'm
with
smbw
and
the
project
architect
for
the
2608
churlington
road
project.
We've
got
our
team
of
consultants
and
the
developer
listed
on
the
right.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
E
E
A
parking
garage
that
is
largely
below
grade
buried
in
the
existing
hillside
will
have
27
primary
spaces
and
11
tandem
spaces
for
a
total
of
38
parking
spaces.
The
project
will
have
three
tenant
amenity
spaces,
including
a
level
two
courtyard:
a
pool,
a
rooftop
deck
and
ground
floor
amenity
space
that
fronts
along
shirlington
road
next
slide.
E
The
seat
slope
of
the
site
allows
us
to
bury
the
parking
in
the
existing
hillside,
reducing
its
visual
impact
and
prominence
and
allowing
for
a
more
friendly
pedestrian
friendly
ground
floor
experience
above
the
parking,
garage
and
lobby
will
be
three
stories
of
residential
apartments
with
10
units
per
floor.
The
architecture
of
the
project
reinforces
the
industrial
arts
focused
vision
laid
out
in
the
four
mile
run
area
plan.
We've
got
a
simple
rectilinear
building
form
with
generous
floor
to
ceiling
heights,
large
windows
and
brick
facades
to
create
a
modern
industrial
facade
along
shirlington
road.
E
In
order
to
break
up
the
massing,
the
building
is
divided
into
two
volumes,
one
cloud
and
dark
brick
and
the
other
in
light,
and
it's
separated
by
a
recess
clad
in
a
dark
architectural
metal
panel.
Our
design
looks
to
incorporate
high
quality
materials
at
the
human
level
and
will
aim
to
improve
the
pedestrian
experience
along
trailing.
Similarly,
next
slide,
the
project
was
designed
and
carefully
guided
by
the
noc
village
center
action
plan
and
the
unified
commercial
mixed-use
development
in
the
noc
special
revitalization
district,
and
it
conforms
to
the
maximum
allowable
density
in
the
area.
E
The
baseline,
far
allowed
by
the
noc
unified
commercial
mixed
use,
district
is
1.5
and
we
are
incorporating
a
bonus.
0.5
far
do
the
due
to
the
inclusion
of
10,
affordable
dwelling
units,
which
brings
our
total
allowable
far
up
to
2.0,
and
we
are
just
under
that
at
1.99
far
and
please
note
that
the
site
area
used
to
calculate
the
far
does
include
that
1081
square
foot
parcel
that
kevin
mentioned.
E
E
Per
the
design
guidelines,
the
project
will
have
a
10-foot
sidewalk
and
a
six-foot
planted
strip
along
shirlington
road.
The
building
will
be
set
back
approximately
one
foot
from
the
property
lines
along
all
the
remaining
sides
of
the
lot
and
20
feet
from
the
rear
of
the
property
per
setback
requirements.
It
is
important
to
note
that
the
below
grade
parking
deck
will
extend
beyond
the
building
to
within
a
couple
of
feet
of
the
rear
property
line.
E
E
The
height
of
the
building
is
in
keeping
with
the
provisions
of
the
noc
unified
commercial,
mixed
use,
district.
We
are
allowed
55,
we
are
allowed
five
stories
and
the
building
is
four
and
sorry
and
we
are
allowed
up
to
56
feet
as
measured
from
the
adjoining
curb
grade
and
we
are
at
just
over
55
feet.
So
in
conformance
next
slide,
the
parking
garage
which
is
accessed
from
shirlington
road
will
accommodate
38
spaces.
E
Again,
there
are
27
primary
spaces,
including
one
reserved
for
visitor
parking
and
eleven
tandem
spaces
that
are
meant
to
be
used
by
the
tenants
to
the
two
bedroom
apartments
personally
guidelines.
Only
the
primary
spaces
count.
Therefore,
we
are
requesting
a
parking
reduction
from
the
1.125
that
is
required
to
0.9
spaces
per
unit.
However,
we
believe
that,
with
the
additional
10
tandem
spaces,
the
project
will
meet
parking
demands
and
next
slide.
E
We
will
integrate
the
site
landscaping
along
shirlington
road
and
also
in
three
bioretention
rain
gardens
within
the
project,
one
that
is
on
the
south
side
of
the
pool
deck
which
will
collect
all
the
storm
water
from
the
courtyard
and
from
the
roof,
one
at
the
rear
of
the
property
and
one
just
above
the
parking
garage.
That's
out
of
this
view
on
the
north
side
of
the.
E
A
Thank
you
very
much
is
that
and
that
that's
it
for
the
outlook
for
a
presentation
of
the
applicant
correct.
E
F
You
very
much
my
name
is
robin
stombler
and
I'm
here
representing
the
green
valley,
civic
association
as
its
first
vice
president,
you
have
seen
the
letter,
the
green
valley,
civic
association,
submitted
to
the
site
plan
review
committee,
the
upmed
committee
back
in
march,
so
I
won't
belabor
those
points.
F
However,
let
me
just
say
that
the
civic
association
supports
this
project
on
sharlington
road.
It
fits
well
within
the
vision
and
aesthetic
we
have
for
our
community.
We
are
pleased
to
see
the
applicant
commit
to
a
percentage
of
affordably
affordably
priced
units
for
those
households
earning
up
to
60
percent
of
area
median
income.
F
F
Considerations
for
landscaping,
especially
at
the
back
of
the
building
to
mitigate
possible
noise,
has
been
noted
positively,
as
have
the
biophilic
components
on
the
south
side
of
the
building.
We
do
ask
for
one
slight
amendment
to
the
staff
report.
On
page
33,
under
section
b
entitled
community
meeting,
we
asked
that
did
the
developer
hold
this
meeting
in
conjunction
with
the
green
valley,
civic
association
and
that's
the
meeting
that
will
be
held
to
discuss
the
project
with
the
properties
that
abut
this
particular
project.
F
G
Transparency
transportation
commission
did
take
this
up
at
its
meeting
last
week
because
of
the
vacation
for
the
right-of-way
that
the
county
owns
after
discussion.
The
transportation
commission
found
that
the
vacation
of
this
is
consistent
with
the
master
transportation
plan
and
voted
unanimously
to
forward
a
recommendation
that
the
vacation
be
done
and
approving
it.
H
Yes,
thank
you
chair
where,
as
you
as
commission
commissioners
know,
I
did
send
out
an
email
yesterday,
sort
of
describing
the
background,
much
of
which
has
been
discussed
by
staff
and
the
applicant
and
again,
the
civic
association
is
in
support
of
this.
H
There
were
probably
more
questions
on
transportation,
as
well
as
some
that
came
from
doris
with
the
disabilities
advisory
commission,
which
we
may
want
to
add.
As
our
discussion
this
evening,
I
will
be
making
two
motions.
The
second
motion
will
be
edited
from
the
one
that
I
sent
to
all
of
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
shrill
for
pointing
that
out
to
me.
So
unless
anyone
has
any
questions,
that
is
my
report.
A
A
I
I
just
have
some
informational
kind
of
baseline
questions
about
the
vacation,
so
if
that
could
just
be
added
for
a
quick
answer
and
description
of
how
the
vacation
works,
that'd
be
great
thanks.
A
So,
let's
I
assume
commissioner
begley
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong,
I
assume
that
we
can
handle,
we
can
meaningfully
handle
the
vacation
and
transportation
issues
separately.
Is
that
does
that.
H
A
H
A
J
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Just
would
like
to
ask
a
couple
quick
questions.
So
one
regarding
the
electric
vehicle
charging
and
then
the
other.
I
have,
I
guess,
a
few
questions
about
the
modifications
to
the
architecture.
A
I
am
going
to
treat
ev
charging
as
a
sub
bullet
to
transportation
and
architecture
as
a
fourth
bullet.
Commissioner
bagley,
I
want
to
just
check
in
with
you
before
proceeding.
Does
that
sound?
Does
that
sound,
appropriate.
A
I'll
add
another
all
right,
so
we
have
transportation.
We
have
including
ev
accessibility,
architecture,
vacation
and
other
seeing
no
other
hands.
Let's
start
with
transportation,
and
perhaps
commissioner
schroll
we
can
dispose
of
the
ev
item
first
before
turning
over
to
the
more
general
transportation
related
questions
and
issues.
J
Yeah,
that's
great!
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
question
for
the
applicant.
I
note
that
there's
two
electric
vehicle
charging
spaces.
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
why
there
weren't
a
few
more
for
the
spaces
you're,
providing
it's
a
little
bit
under
what
we
would
want.
I
think
in
terms
of
it
for
eb
eb
charging,
but
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
that
and
that
decision
and
then
also
the
ability
to
add
additional
eb
charging
in
the
future.
You
know
is
that,
is
it
eb
ready?
E
I
think
we
had
shown
two
charging
stations,
because
I
believe
that
was
at
the
request
of
the
county,
where
we
are
willing
to
include
more
what
we've
done
on
other
projects
is
included
room
in
the
electrical
panel
for
additional
ev
charging
stations
in
the
future.
So
we
by
no
means
need
to
limit
it
to
two.
For
the
you
know,
life
of
the
project,
we're
open
to
more
upon
building
completion
and
more
down
the
road
as
electric
vehicles
become
more
and
more
commonplace,
are.
A
You
sure,
if
I
can
follow
up
on
that,
although
you
might
be
about
to
ask
the
same
question,
are
you
also,
then,
building
installing
the
conduit
that
you
would
need
to
carry
the
the
circuits
or
would
that
be
a
follow-up
project?.
E
A
J
Yeah,
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
to
think
about
laying
the
conduit
going
back
to
do
it
later
is
much
more
expensive.
I
mean
some.
Some
studies
show
that
it's
about
six
times
more
expensive
to
you
know,
do
it
later,
post
construction,
so
you.
D
J
Now
is
the
time
to
think
about
it,
but
if
you're
at
adding
plugs
and
things
like
that
later,
that's
a
minor
cost
and
yeah.
If
you
have
the
electrical
capacity,
the
I
don't
know
what
you're
putting
in
there,
but
you
know
an
extra
40
amps
or
whatever
to
do
that.
That's
certainly
helpful
would
encourage
you
to
consider
that,
if
possible.
Thank
you.
J
It
was,
there
are
good
toes
to
step
on
right.
H
This
is
kind
of
transportation
related,
but
question
came
up
about
bike
space
and
being
that
it's
so
close
to
the
beginning
of
the
wod
trail,
and
there
is
a
bike
rack.
We,
the
question
was
wondering
if
there
could
be
a
bike,
storage,
room
figuring,
that
there
might
be
a
lot
of
cyclists
there.
E
Yeah,
we
actually
do
have
a
bike
storage
room
with
room
for
12
bikes
in
the
parking
garage
and
it
meets
it's
gated
and
you
know,
meets
the
arlington
county
requirements,
excellent
and
then
parking
bike.
You
know
visitor
bike
parking
spaces
that
are
outside
of
the
building
excellent.
H
Okay
and
question:
where
would
visitors
park
in
this
area,
I'm
not
familiar
with
parking?
Is
it
like
around
the
building
or
so.
E
We've
got
one
dedicated
visitor
parking
space
within
the
garage,
but
aside
from
that,
it
would
just
be
street
parking.
A
Commissioner
steinberger,
I
have
a
commissioner
hughes.
I
have
a
follow
up
on
commissioner
bagley's
question.
If
you
don't
mind
me
jumping
in
unless,
unless
that's
also
where
you're
headed.
K
Okay,
just
as
a
very
brief
follow
up
just
piggybacking
off
the
last
conversation
for
the
applicant,
I
don't
plan
to
make
any
motion
or
anything,
but
e-bikes
are
a
huge
thing
now
and
so
in
your
plans.
K
If
you
just
drop
a
standard
outlet
in
that
bike
room,
you
really
do
yourself
a
huge
service
to
your
future
tenant
to
to
future
proofing
your
building,
so
very
ch
done,
and
I
apologize
about
missing
your
aqua
first
spc,
but
to
the
extent
you
can
plan
ahead
and
just
put
in
a
four
box
gang
outlet
inside
of
there
for
your
tenants
to
mr
weir.
Thank
you.
A
Well,
I
now
now
I
should
have
asked
commissioner
steinberger
as
well,
but
since
my
question
was
also
e-bike
related,
I'm
going
to
just
take
the
privilege
and
that's
to
also
encourage
the
applicant
to
be
mindful
of
the
growing
trend
of
cargo
bikes
and
and
and
making
sure
that
I
also
apologize
for
having
missed
the
yuckman
meeting,
but
making
sure
that
the
bike
storage
room
includes
sufficient
room
to
accommodate
cargo
bikes
which,
as
I'm
sure
you
know,
are
among
the
top
selling
electric
vehicles
worldwide.
Right
now,
commissioner,
steinberger.
L
Thank
you.
I
have
a
non-bike
related
question,
so
that
was
good
timing
on
your
part
to
jump
in
on
that,
could
we
just
review
the
pickup
and
drop
off
location
for
deliveries
uber?
Anything
like
that.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
was
understanding
that
and
I
wasn't
sure
which
the
best
graphic
was.
E
We
we
don't
have
a
dedicated,
pickup
and
drop-off
area
for
ubers
or
for
deliveries.
They're
a
street
parking
on
burlington
road
and
we've
got
a
bit
of
a
garage
apron.
So
if
somebody
was
there
very
short
term,
they
could
pull
into
the
garage
apron
and
you
know
idle
and
drop
the
package
and
go
so
those.
L
A
My
anything
else
on
transportation,
I'm
seeing
no
hands,
I'm
going
to
go
to
accessibility.
H
Yeah
as
sitting
back
and
I
went
back
through
the
sprc
up
the
other
day,
just
to
make
sure
that
I
hadn't
missed
anything
and
I
think
because
doris
was
had
extension,
extensive
questioning
near
the
end
of
the
meeting,
and
some
of
it
was
a
little
harder
to
listen
to
because
it
was
by
phone
and
not
as
clear
as
the
rest
of
the
recording.
H
But
at
any
rate,
the
one
question
that
came
up-
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
out
there
again
is
how
easy
it
is
for
someone
in
a
wheelchair
to
navigate
from
the
garage
into
the
lobby.
H
I
remember
that
was
one
thing
that
came
up
and
also
she
had
been
talking
about
a
fully
ada
compliant
unit,
and
there
were
questions
about
where
this
would
be
located
in
terms
of
ease,
for
you
know
the
that
particular
tenant
to
get
around,
and
you
know
perhaps
near
the
back
where
they
rewrite
at
the
patio
level
and
then
so
that's
those
are
things
that
I
had
taken
notes
on
that.
I
remember
from
that
conversation.
So
if
you
can
address
that,
I
would
appreciate
it.
E
Sure
so
our
building
will
be
fully
accessible.
All
of
the
entrances,
pedestrian
entrances
will
have
less
than
a
half
inch
threshold
for
wheelchairs
to
easily
roll
over.
Our
two
wheelchair,
accessible
handicapped,
ada
spaces
are
closest
to
the
entrance
to
the
lobby
from
the
garage
and
all
slopes
are
in
compliance
with
maximum
allowable
ada
slopes,
which
is
one
to
twelve,
with
with
a
a
one
to
twelve
ramp.
E
So
somebody
should
be
easy,
easily
able
to
navigate
into
the
lobby
and
we
are
required
to
have
and
we'll
have
one
fully
accessible
type
a
unit
we
haven't
decided
on
where
that
will
be,
but
we're
open
to
really
any
floor.
So
if
she's
got,
if
anybody
has
a
wants
to
demand
it
on
floor,
two
three
or
four
we're
open
to
that.
H
Yeah-
and
I
I
may
suggest
that
perhaps
you
reach
back
with
the
disability
advisory
commission
just
to
run
that
by
you
know,
because
there's
such
a
difference
between
ada
compliant
and
universally
compliant
and.
D
H
D
A
A
Do
we
have
anything
we
have
some,
we
we
have.
The
next
topic
is
architecture.
J
Great.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
a
question
for
mr
lam.
Mr
lam,
you
mentioned
in
your
presentation
that
the
applicant
made
some
modifications
to
the
the
design
of
the
facades
and
to
include
some
of
these
punch
outs,
particularly
on
on
the
sides
and
and
in
the
rear.
J
J
It
looks
like
in
the
staff
report
kind
of
that
the
white
section
in
the
rear,
the
kind
of
white
facade
doesn't
look
like
it
has
any
kind
of
punch
outs
in
the
rear
of
the
site,
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
clarify,
if
that's
in
fact,
true,
that
we
don't
have
any
of
that
kind
of
articulation
on
that.
On
that
facade.
J
C
Sure-
and
I
just
shared
my
screen
just
to
kind
of
help
follow
along,
but
I
guess
the
idea
of
these
sides
of
the
building
because
they
abut
other
private
properties.
C
Instead
of
having
these
you
know
massive
blank
walls
on
the
sides
of
the
building.
I
think
you
know
the
front
of
the
building
is
more
prominent
and
visible
from
the
from
the
street,
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
where
the
focus
was
on,
but
you're
right.
There
isn't
the
same
inset
brick
panels
on
the
rear
sides
of
the
building
as
well,
not
sure
if
the
applicant
consider
that
as
well
or
you
know
if
they
have
anything
else
to
add.
J
Yeah,
just
before
we
go
to
you,
ms
clark,
what
I
do
want
to
get
your
you
to
weigh
in.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
mr
lam,
so
is
it
that
the
building
placement
is
close
enough
to
the
lot
line
that
we
can't
have
functioning
windows?
Is
that
correct
by
the
building
code?
Is
that
the
based
on
what
we
might
assume
might
would
happen
next
door?
Is
that
correct,
correct.
D
C
E
Yep
kevin
kevin
is
exactly
right
just
because
we're
within
a
foot
of
the
property
line,
we
aren't
by
code,
allowed
any
openings
so
we're
trying
to
simulate
openings
with
those
inset
brick
panels
as
best
we
can
and
in
regards
to
the
rear
of
the
site.
I
would
say
that
we
would
be
open
to
it.
However,
it
is
so
far
back
from
shirlington
road
that
I
don't
know
that
anybody
any
pedestrian
would
really
notice
that
if
we
did
the
inset
panels
at
the
rear
of
the
site.
J
Yeah,
okay,
I
mean
we,
we
you
know,
I
I
do
appreciate
that
this
is
you've
done.
It
made
an
effort
to
make
this
kind
of
more.
Interestingly
designed
around
more
of
the
facade.
J
We
do,
I
think,
generally
want
to
design
every
kind
of
every
facade
and
not
really
have
a
back
to
the
extent
we
can
avoid
that
this
is
definitely
better
than
we
saw,
I
think
several
months
ago.
So
I'm
appreciative
of
that
would
encourage
you
to
think
about.
You
know
some
additional
kind
of
punch
outs
there
on
those
other
kind
of
two
facades
that
you
see
on
page.
J
I
guess
it's
part
of
like
figure
figure
10
in
the
staff
report
on
page
10
and
of
that
kind
of
rear
facade,
particularly
the
kind
of
white
paneling,
which
seems
like
it's
a
pretty
pretty
blank
and
non-designed,
but
happy
with
what
you've
done
thus
far,
and
thank
you,
mr
lam,
for
for
answering
my
question.
M
Thank
you,
chair
we're.
I
just
had
a
quick
question.
I
thought
on
your
presentation.
You
mentioned
that
you're
allowed
five
stories
that
you
decided
to
go
with
four.
Did
I
hear
that
correctly
and
if
so,
what's
the
rationale
behind
that.
E
We
ran
into
another
height
issue.
We
were
only
allowed
56
feet
from
adjoining
curb
grade
and
just
because
we
wanted
all
of
the
units
to
have
windows
to
be
fully
above
grade
and
there's
about
a
20
foot
grade
change
from
the
front
of
the
site
along
shirlington
road
to
the
rear
of
the
site.
We
had
to
make
a
pretty
tall
first
floor
and
then
to
get
the
other
floors
in.
We
were
at
55
feet,
which
is
just
one
foot
shy
of
the
you
know:
56
foot
height
limit,
so
that
was
what
was
limiting.
E
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
sally
commissioner
peterson.
I
I
would
like
to
echo
what
commissioner
schroll
was
saying
about
asking
for
some
additional
design
elements
on
that
back
kind
of
white
slab
of
a
wall
that
you
know
people
will
be
walking.
People
may
be
playing
in
that
area
before
it's
redeveloped.
I
think
it
would
be
really
nice
to
see
some
additional
architectural
features
or
even
something
as
simple
as
a
mural.
I
personally
love
murals.
I
I
know
they
didn't
make
it
into
the
community
art
plan,
but
I
think
you
know
that's
like
low
hanging
fruit
just
to
to
make
a
a
space
a
little
bit
more
interesting.
So
just
wanted
to
echo
commissioner
scholl's
request
there.
K
I
just
want
to
echo
tinley's
comments
there
about
murals
and
I
understand
they're
not
considered
public
art
pursuant
to
our
arts
plan,
but
for
the
applicant's
consideration,
if
that's
something
you
would
be
interested
in,
it
would
be
incredibly
beneficial
to
reach
out
to
the
arts
commission
and
see
what
potential
could
be
there.
While
you
have
scaffolding
and
cranes
that
would
otherwise
facilitate
the
artist
being
quite
cheap
relative
to
a
restaging
event
of
it
and
to
that
I'll
be
quiet.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
hughes.
Anything
else
on
architecture.
I
Thank
you.
I
think
this
is
a
question
for
staff
and
this
is
more
just
informational,
which
I'm
pretty
sure
this
was
explained
to
me
once
before
many
years
ago,
but
I
was
just
hoping
for
the
benefit
of
anyone
watching
tonight.
If
you
can
remind
us
all,
is
the
vacation
just
as
simple
as
the
county
is
selling
this
land
to
the
applicant?
I
saw
we
are
getting
about
67
000,
which
was
based
on
a
recent
appraisal.
I
So
is
this
like
a
sale
or
is
it
a
a
leasehold
or
a
loan?
If
the
property
is
eventually
redeveloped,
does
the
county
get
the
right
to
buy
it
back
or
does
the
does
the
applicant
keep
it
forever
if
they
sell
the
land
to
somebody
else,
do
does
it
transfer
over
to
the
new
owner
so
just
kind
of
wondering
the
specifics
of
a
vacation.
N
Once
the
vacation
ordinance
is
adopted,
then
there
will
be
a
deed
of
vacation
that
will
be
recorded
in
the
land
records
and
that
will
vest
title
to
the
land
in
the
applicant,
and
so
once
that's
done.
In
essence,
it
is
like
a
sale,
and
so
once
the
deed
is
recorded,
then
the
property
will
belong
to
the
applicant.
N
I
Okay,
great
thanks
a
quick
follow-up
question:
when
does
that
you
said
it
happens
on
the
d
when
when
does
the
deed
happen?
Is
that
like
in
the
next
as
soon
as
the
county
board,
approves
the
project
or
upon
the
final?
You
know
the
final
unit
is
developed.
You
just
mentioned
it,
but
I
wasn't
sure
when
that
happened,
sure.
N
Sure
so
the
county
board
will
enact
the
ordinance
of
vacation.
There
are
certain
conditions
contained
in
the
ordinance.
There
may
be
easements
that
have
to
be
dedicated.
Of
course,
there's
the
payment
of
the
compensation
for
the
land,
the
deed
has
to
be
signed
by
the
county.
So
once
all
of
the
set
once
all
of
the
conditions
of
the
ordinance
are
completed,
then
the
there's
also
a
final
plat
that
gets
prepared
and
that
becomes
part
of
that
deed.
N
So
that
process
has
to
take
place
as
well.
Once
all
of
those
things
are
done,
then
the
deed
will
be
recorded
in
the
land
record,
so
it
can
take
several
weeks.
Sometimes
it
can
take
several
months
just
depending
on
how
quickly
the
applicant
moves
forward
with
providing
the
things
that
are
necessary
to
satisfy
the
conditions,
but
once
all
of
the
conditions
are
are
met,
then
the
deed
gets
recorded,
and
at
that
point
the
property
belongs
to
the
applicant.
N
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
peterson.
Commissioner
hughes,
did
you
have
a
question
that
I
skipped
you
or
is
your
hands
just
still
up.
K
Reviews
the
floor
is
yours.
I
appreciate
it,
commissioner,
and
just
because,
as
we
continue
with
the
developments
in
national
landing
and
the
intricacies
of
land
ownership
in
route,
1
and
particular
on
and
off,
ramps
becomes
more
evident
and
the
interesting
overlays
of
who
owns
the
underlying
land
versus
right
of
ways
and
et
cetera.
I
feel
like
I
just
want
to
understand
this
question.
Is
there
any
wet
method
for
this
question
of
staff
that
was
considered?
K
That
would
allow
the
development
to
proceed,
as
is
other
than
fundamentally
a
feat:
simple
transfer
of
the
land
ownership
rights,
whether
it
be
a
99-year
lease
or
other
alternatives
that
we
could
have
considered.
K
That
would
still
allow
the
development
to
go
forward
and
then
a
follow-up
for
that
to
staff
frequently
when
we
as
the
landowner
have
particular
values,
we
use
it
to
ensure
that
many
of
the
community
benefits
we
care
deeply
about
achieved
above
and
beyond
what
would
normally
be
required
of
an
applicant
and
to
what
extent
were
above
and
beyond
community
benefits
achieved,
because
we
were
part
of
the
landowner
in
this
deal.
So
two
function,
questions.
N
K
K
Not
no,
no,
not
not
on
your
division,
but
still
just
the
following
up
to
our
regular
staff
max.
Thank
you,
maxine.
So
much
that
you
really
helped
me
clarify
in
my
head.
When
you
you
said
it's
either
a
vacation,
stephen
or
an
encroachment,
I'm
like!
Oh,
no,
for
a
regular
staff.
You
know
we
use
glove
changes.
We
use
land
ownership
as
our
tools
for
ensuring
that
enhanced
community
benefits
are
achieved,
and
so
I'm
curious
what
we
can
consider
the
enhanced
community
benefit
to
have
been
achieved
here
or
is
our
sub
will
of
value?
C
So
yeah,
essentially
so
the
developments
you
know
in
order
to
achieve
kind
of
the
recommended
streetscape
of
furling's
road,
there
will
need
to
be
kind
of
some
vacation
for
these
rehearsals.
K
And
so
thank
you,
kevin,
and
so
just
for
my
fellow
commissioners,
because
I'm
not
gonna
be
here
in
a
year
and
you
guys
will
continue
on
think
about
these
conversations
as
it
applies
later
on
in
your
lives,
because
the
questions
of
vacation
right,
aways
and
easements
has
become
much
more
interesting
as
we
move
through
national
landing.
That's
it!
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
hughes.
I'm
just
trying
to
both
take
notes
and
think
through
what
what
what
we've
been
told,
I
have
a
hand
up
from
jane
kim
is
kim.
Are
you
is
this
in
response
to
a
question.
O
That's
been
raised
sure
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
add
on
a
little
bit
to
commissioner
hughes's
question
when
we
get
the
vacation
requests,
there's
a
lot
of
due
diligence
done,
especially
with
des
and
our
watershed
streets
and
really
looking
at
you
know,
essentially
giving
away
some
or
part
of
our
right-of-way,
and
we
did
actually
take
quite
a
long
time
to
dig
deep
into
what
the
future
cip
envisions
for
shirlington
road.
What
future
needs.
O
We
have
for
not
only
streetscape
improvements
along
this
entire
stretch,
but
also
utility,
undergrounding
and
other
kind
of
unseen
needs,
and
ultimately
we
did
determine
that.
The
the
area
that
was
requested
was
outside
the
limits
that
we
would
need
in
order
to
fulfill
our
future
goals
for
this
for
this
street,
and
so
that,
that's
also,
you
know
a
big
part
of
this
conversation.
I
think
you
know
when
we
first
got
the
vacation
request.
O
The
initial
reaction
from,
for
instance,
our
water
source
street
staff,
was
to
say
no,
we
have
you
know
utilities
that
may
need
to
go
through
here.
We
need
to
preserve
as
much
space
as
as
possible,
and
so
you
know
taking
that
response
and
then
kind
of
digging
further
into
well.
What
are
our
actual
plans
and
needs
and
goals?
What
are
the
policies
that
we
have
in
place
like
the
green
valley
action
plan,
and
we
do
really
heavily
look
at
all
of
all
of
these.
O
The
way
these
pieces
fit
together
and
to
determine
whether
or
not
we
can
have
the
vacation,
and
so
I
just
you
know,
want
you
to
know
that
this
is
a
multi-department
process
and
that
we
do
work
to
maintain
our
right-of-way
and
make
sure
that
we
have
everything
we
need
for
for
the
future
growth
of
our
community.
A
K
Commissioner,
we're
and
miss
kim,
I
know
I
want
to
first
of
all
acknowledge.
I
am
very
grateful
that
the
des
staff
went
through
such
an
extensive
review,
and
I
I'm
quite
certain
that
it
is,
is
within
every
realm
of
reasonable
within
our
known
plans
that
are
out
there,
because
I've
worked
with
you
guys
for
so
many
years,
and
the
only
reason
I
just
want
to
continue
to
raise
the
issue
and
just
keep
it
up
and
people's
heads
as
a
flag.
Is
it's
not
the
known
issues
that
I'm
concerned
about?
K
It's
the
unknown
issues
in
the
in
the
future
and
just
as
an
example,
what
we
all
perceive
today
as
the
most
amazing
piece
of
park
in
green
space
in
our
county.
One
of
the
greatest
is
the
wnod
connector
trail,
which
again
is
an
abandoned,
right-of-way
railway
that
we
were
able
to
utilize
in
a
different
function
in
the
future.
That
was
never
envisioned
at
the
time
of
its
establishment,
and
we
have
things
like
that.
We
have
abandoned
right
of
ways
that
are
streetcar
lines.
K
K
I
know
you
guys
did
a
great
job
and
thank
you
so
much
for
reiterating
that
you
do
a
great
job
and
I
I
don't
have
any
doubts
that
it's
within
the
realms
of
all
the
possible
knowns
that
we
have
it's
the
unknowns
that
concern
me,
but
it's
not
something
that
will
stop
me
from
supporting
this
this
evening.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Here.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Peterson.
I
Thank
you.
I
was
interested
in
ms
kim's
comment
just
that
originally
folks
staff
were
a
little
bit
worried
about
you
know.
We
might
need
this
land
for
utilities
and
I
was
wondering
if
there
was
any
legal
ability
to
put
not
quite
an
easement
in
but
some
kind
of
easement.
That
said,
if,
in
the
future,
this
land
was
redeveloped
and
happened
to
be
empty
in
the
future,
like
the
future
project
didn't
go
to
the
build
to
line.
I
You
know,
the
county
could
use
this
this
land
for
utilities,
if
needed,
or
I
just
didn't
know
if
that
was
a
possibility.
Only
because
you
mentioned
you
know
folks
were
thinking
like
well.
We
need
this
for
underground
utilities.
N
N
We
will
request
it
as
part
of
the
development,
but
I'm
not
I'm
not
aware
of
of
an
of
some
mechanism
for
saying,
if
at
some
point
in
the
future
an
easement
is
is
necessary.
You
know,
then
then
we
could
get
it.
N
I
I
just
don't
know.
If
that's,
if
that's
done,
you
know,
maybe
it
hasn't,
it
hasn't
happened
in
my
experience.
I
don't
know
if
it's
happened
in
somebody
else's
experience,
but
once
the
once
the
deed
of
vacation
goes
to
record
unless
we
reserve
an
easement
prior
to
that,
then
typically,
I
don't
think
that
there's
a
way
to
go
back
and
and
and
do
what
you're
suggesting.
A
These
are
really
important
and
and
thoughtful
questions
and
important
and
thoughtful
answers,
and-
and
I
just
want
to
share
my
thanks
with
the
commissioners
who've
raised
them
and
with
the
responses
that
we've
been
getting
from
staff.
My
initial
reaction
was
to
start
trying
to
remember
all
of
the
fantastic
ways
of
conveying
property
from
my
property
law
class,
and
I've
been
much
happier
with
the
earnest
and
and
thoughtful
inquiries
that
that
came
out
of
commissioner
hughes's
initial
question.
Then
I
am
with
where
my
own
head
went.
A
Do
we
have
anything
else
on
on
the
vacation
issue?.
A
So
then
we
are
to
the
other
topics
issue.
Commissioner
bagley.
I
think
what
commissioner
kieran
is
this
on
vacation
or
other.
A
So
we'll
start
with
you
one
other,
and
then
I
think
commissioner
bagley
you
had
a
few
others
as
well.
P
Thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
ms
tumbler
from
the
civic
association
for
taking
the
time
to
share
their
perspective
directly
and
I
think
it's
a
testament
to
the
work
of
the
applicant
staff
sprc
and
the
community
that
this
has
so
few
unresolved
issues.
I
do
want
to
follow
up
on
the
issue
that
mrs
domler
did
raise
about.
Holding
the
follow-up
meeting
during
the
green
valley,
civic
association
meeting
we've
run
into
problems
in
the
past,
where
sometimes
civic
association
meetings
are
held
at
times
that
conflict
with
these
other
public
meetings,
so
miss
clark.
E
I'm
I'm
happy
to
have
the
meeting
whenever
is
convenient
for
everybody
else.
I'm
totally
flexible
on
this
meeting
schedule.
P
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
gear
and
commissioner
bagley.
I
think
that
if
I
remember
right,
you
said
that
you
had
the
the
others
too.
I
apologize.
H
For
someone
else,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
chairman
yeah.
I
do
have
two
other
things.
Will
there
be
dogs
allowed
in
this
project.
E
H
Yeah,
the
only
I
guess
the
concern
is
there
is:
where
will
the
dogs
be
relieved?
You
know
be
able
to
relieve
themselves.
You
know,
is
there
some
plan
for
that
and
if
not
there
probably
should
be.
You
know
you
aren't
too
far
from
some
dog
parks,
but
far
enough
away
where
you
know
sometimes
the
convenience
of
hey
it's
right
here
and
then
the
question
becomes
what
happens
with
landscaping
if
there
isn't
perhaps
dedicated
space.
You
know
for
things
like
that
understood.
E
H
Appreciate
that
also,
my
other
question
is:
will
their
because
there
are
there's
a
nice
playground
not
too
far
away
as
there
as
well
as
parks
and
the
drew
school?
E
H
Is
there
a
possibility
of
maybe
reconsidering
and
doing
a
three
bedroom,
maybe
a
stu
studio,
because
we,
the
part
of
the
issue,
is
that
we
don't
get
a
lot
of
three-bedroom
units
in
the
county,
which
then
precludes
those
who
have
you
know
more
than
one
or
two
people,
especially
kids.
So
it
is
something
that
you
know
if
this
could
be
accommodated.
That
would
be
great
okay.
We
can
take
a
look
okay.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Peterson.
I
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
second
commissioner
bagley's
point
about
encouraging
three
bedroom
units.
I
am
reminded
of
commissioner
hughes
making
the
point
that
affordable
housing
units
cannot
be
filled
with
a
family
of
a
a
parent
and
a
boy
and
a
girl,
because
the
affordable
housing
units
can't
have
mixed
gender
kids
staying
together.
So
that
would
say
that
anybody
who
has
two
kids
of
different
genders
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
be
in
that
unit.
I
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
peterson,
and
to
ms
clark
I'll
just
note
that
you
know
with
the
the
planning
commission.
I
I
thank
you
for
your
offer
to
get
back
to
commissioner
bagley
on
that.
I
I've
noted
this
for
other
applicants.
Before
the
you
know.
The
this
is
the
last
that
the
planning
commission
will
be
acting
on
it.
But
that
said,
our
letter
to
the
county
board
will
note
that
the
question
was
raised,
and
so
you
know
with
it.
A
My
apologies
to
the
extent
that
you
already
know
this,
but
but
I
would
encourage
you
to
follow
up
with
with
staff
and
expect
that
the
audience
for
that
follow-up
will
be
staff
and
or
the
county
board
if
they
from
our
letter
decide
that
they
want
to
pick
up
on
that
particular
thread
so
say
thank
you
for
your
offer
and
or
thanks
to
get
back
to
us,
and
I'm
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
it
included
and
as
as
the
project
makes
its
way
forward.
A
Unless
mr
lam
says
otherwise
that
is
who
I
would
recommend
that
you
be
in
touch
with
on
it
yep.
Thank
you
angry.
I
just
I
don't
want
you
to
feel
like
you
are
like
like
you.
I
don't
want
to
feel
like
you're
expected
to
get
something
back
to
us.
Personally,
although
you
know
mr
lamb,
it
would
be
nice
if
you
could
let
at
least
commissioner
bagley
know
and
perhaps
the
rest
of
us,
but
enough
on
that.
I'm
sorry
is
there
anything
else
on
this
other
topic.
A
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Bagley.
Is
there
a
second
second?
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Schroll.
Are
there
any
commissioner
bagley?
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
your
motion
before
I
open
the
floor.
A
A
Hearing
none,
I
will
call
the
role
and
we'll
start.
Then,
commissioner,
bagley
with
you.
D
B
A
Mr
hughes
hi,
commissioner
hi-
I
have
not
heard
from
commissioner
patel
commissioner
patel,
are
you
with
us
and
if
so,
what
is
your
vote.
A
Commissioner
patel
is
absent.
I
apologize
to
my
colleagues
if
I
missed
that
from
miss
badger.
Commissioner
peterson
aye,
ms
arlington
aye,
christopher
schruhl,.
A
I
vote,
I
carries
nine
to
zero
christian
vaguely.
Do
you
have
another
motion.
H
Yes,
I
do
hold
on
because
this
was
corrected
from
what
I
had
sent
out
earlier.
I
move
the
planning
commission
find
that
the
vacation
of
the
1081
square
foot
portion
of
shirlington
road
located
on
the
west
side
of
shirlington
road
adjacent
to
2608,
shirlington
road,
arlington,
virginia
rpc,
number
31-033-017.
A
I'm
going
to
give
credit
to
commissioner
hughes
on
that
one.
So,
commissioner,
bagley
do
you
want
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
motion.
A
Thank
you,
so
they'll
go
down
the
roll
again,
commissioner
bagley,
I'm
sorry,
my
apologies.
Was
there
someone
else
who
wanted
to
be
heard
on
it?
Commissioner
hughes?
Yes,.
K
K
Just
tradition
on
the
vacations
just
to
make
sure
just
a
confirmation
from
staff
that
the
motion
has
get
made
is
correct.
I
hate
doing
this
again.
That's
a
really
good.
A
Commissioner,
thank
you,
commissioner
hughes,
and
thank
you,
mr
lam,
commissioner
bagley
we're
going
to
go
into
the
vote.
Commissioner
begley.
D
K
A
Professional
tommy
hi,
I
believe
the
commissioner
patel
remains
absent.
Commissioner
peterson.
G
J
A
A
Thank
you
to
all
of
the
staff
present.
Thank
you
to
the
applicant
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
this
project
progress.
Madam
clerk,
will
you
please
call
our
next
item.
B
Q
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
We
also
have
jason
freeze,
who
is
our
debt
and
metro
guru?
Karen
is
our
all
things
capital
and
I'm
richard
stevens,
and
I'm
the
budget
director
that
oversees
the
operating
and
capital
budget.
So
thank
you
for
having
us
tonight.
Staff
was
really
excited
to
come
tonight.
We
actually
were
online
at
six.
Q
I
didn't
realize
that
it
started
at
seven,
but
so,
but
we're
happy
to
be
here
to
this
annual
event
to
to
the
planning
commission,
so
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
more
quickly,
walk
through
the
powerpoint
presentation
that
we
presented
to
the
board
on
may
17th,
when
the
county
manager
proposed
the
cip
and,
as
you
know
two
years
ago,
was
supposed
to
be
the
the
10-year
cip
every
other
year
proposal,
but
covid
economic
downturn,
uncertainty.
Q
Everything
changes
changed.
We
just
proposed
a
one
year.
Two
years
ago,
last
year,
the
manager
and
board
and
the
board
adopted
a
three-year
cip,
so
this
year
we're
back
for
the
fy
23
to
fy
2032
budget,
the
cip
back
to
our
10-year
our
10-year
plan
and,
as
you
can
see
on
this
first
slide.
Q
Q
You
know
they
cover
anything
from
transportation
and
roads,
our
facilities,
parks
and
recreation,
our
maintenance
capital
programs
to
keep
our
assets
in
a
state
of
good
repair,
our
arlington
neighborhoods
program,
which
used
to
be
the
neighborhood
conservation
program,
stormwater
management
and
metro
and
we'll
walk
through
each
of
these
programs
in
the
subsequent
slides.
Q
So
on
the
next
slide,
we
sort
of
highlight
the
the
guiding
principles
that
that
we
used
as
we
were
developing
the
the
capital
plan.
You
know
we,
we
started
developing
this
10-year
cip
back
just
immediately
after
we
proposed
and
adopted
the
three-year
plan
last
last
summer-
and
you
know
we
did
the
three-year
cip,
because
you
know
there's
still
a
more
little.
You
know
last
year,
there's
still
a
little
more
uncertainty
on
the
economic
front,
we
had
a
little
bit.
Q
You
know
we
had
a
better
idea
in
the
short
term,
what
what
the
outlook
was
going
to
be,
but
the
the
the
seven
to
ten
year
outlook
was
still
a
little
fuzzier,
but
now
over
the
last
12
months
or
nine
months,
you
know
that
there's
been
a
lot
more
clarity
there.
Q
Q
We
know
we
have
to
go
out
to
the
community
and
and
and
plan
for
a
longer
term
capital
plan,
but
you
know
sort
of
understanding
that
there
we
still
have
a
lot
of
dynamics
in
the
short
term
and
some
uncertainty
in
the
long
term.
What
that
looks
like
so
overall
it
was
this
measured
approach
as
we
as
we
developed
and
proposed
the
10-year
cip
as
every
year.
We
want
to
maintain
our
counties.
You
know
the
assets
that
we
currently
have.
Q
I
mentioned
the
state
of
good
repair
so
that
you
know
we
have
many
facilities,
our
trail
infrastructure,
bridges
technology.
All
of
those
things
are,
are
one
of
the
other
principal
guiding
factors
in
in
the
development
here
and
of
course,
you
know,
metro
and
meeting
our
regional
and
legal
obligations
are
are,
are
always
a
foundational
principle
in
in
developing
both
the
operation
or
the
operating
budget
and
the
capital
plan,
and
then
overlaying
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
feedback
and
elements
that
have
come
up
over
the
last
several
years.
Q
Q
World
things
are,
things
are
different
needs
have
changed
and
trying
to
address
in
this
capital
plan
some
of
those
some
of
those
changing
dynamics,
also
much
more
so
than
our
10-year
plan
from
four
years
ago,
addressing
the
environment
and
and
our
resiliency
and
significant
investments
being
made
across
the
across
the
organization
and
county
in
this
area,
whether
it's
county,
ev
vehicles
and
charging
infrastructure
to
our
stormwater
management
program.
Q
The
integration
here
this
whole
of
government
approach
in
the
capital
plan
for
environment
and
resiliency,
and
then,
of
course,
in
any
long-term
planning
process.
You
know
planning
for
the
future,
making
investments
where,
where
various
studies
or
planning
processes
are
are,
are
planned
for
for
the
for
for
the
out
years,
beyond
this,
in
the
latter
part
of
the
cip
and
beyond
this
cip
horizon.
Q
So
the
next
couple
slides
I'm
going
to
turn
over
to
jason
freeze
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
debt
and
some
of
the
overall,
how
we
pay
for
the
cip,
which
will
then
he'll
turn
it
over
to
karen
to
walk,
walk
through
the
remaining
slides,
so
jason.
R
Thank
you
richard
good
evening,
so
you
can
hear
me
correct.
R
Okay,
great,
so
I'm
just
going
to
walk
through
what
I'm
going
to
start
off
talking
about.
Are
the
county's
four
main
policies
that
we
use
when
determining
the
county's
ability
to
afford
a
new
debt,
and
this
is
specific
to
the
general
fund
only
so
this
is
the
county
and
the
schools,
so
it
excludes
store
water
utilities
and
those
separate
funds.
They
have
their
own
policies.
R
So
the
first
policy
I
want
to
discuss,
which
is
on
the
slide
here-
is
the
10
debt
ratio
ceiling,
which
is
a
best
practice
for
maintaining
the
county's
aaa
bond
rating
with
the
three
major
rating
agencies.
So
the
numerator
of
this
calculation
includes
again
both
total
county
and
school's
debt
service.
It
also
includes
ahif
and
any
debt
incurred
there,
while
the
denominator
in
that
calculation
is
total
governmental
expenditures
which
again
both
includes
both
the
county
and
aps's
expenditures.
R
So
to
give
you
context
on,
you
know,
you
see
here
we
get
about
9.9
and
we're
generally,
you
know
at
that
higher
level.
You
know
we
plan
our
cip
to
afford
debt,
but
there's
typically
more
needs
than
than
what
we
can
afford.
So
we
usually
end
up
planning
close
that
10
percent,
but
you'll
see
you
know.
Historically,
we
we
never
truly
get
to
that
that
level
due
to
project
delays,
just
timing
of
of
projects.
It
usually
ends
up
being
just
slightly
lower.
R
But
to
give
you
context
in
the
19-28
cip,
which
was
the
last
10-year
cipv,
did
these
ranged
from
9.4
to
9.9
again,
so
the
reason
why
that
were
in
a
little
bit
lower
in
the
first
couple
years
here
is
due
to
you
know
the
last
couple:
two
cycles:
we've
actually
done:
abbreviated,
cips,
a
one-year
cip
and
then
a
three-year
cip
and
really
constrained
things.
R
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
this
is
just
showing
we
have
four
total
policies.
So
these
are
the
other
three
policies.
The
first
here
is
that
total
debt,
which
includes
county
general
obligation,
as
well
as
revenue
bonds.
We
don't
do
many,
but
we
do
them
from
time
to
time
so
total
outstanding
debt
on
a
per
capita
basis
as
a
percentage
of
per
capita
income
to
be
no
greater
than
six
percent.
So
you
know
what
we
do
is
we
take.
We
take
outstanding
debt.
R
We
take
per
capita
income,
as
reported
by
the
bureau
of
economic
analysis.
We
take
the
population
as
reported,
and
we
divided
the
debt
by
the
by
the
population
to
get
that
per
capita
number.
It
has
to
be
less
than
six
percent,
so
you
see
we
actually
do
get
pretty
close
in
the
near
term
at
about
5.9
percent,
but
then
we
start
to
trail
off
a
decent
bid
to
go
to
about
four
and
a
half
percent
in
fiscal
2032..
R
Third
policy
debt
as
a
percentage
of
market
value
of
the
tax
base.
This
is
you
know,
land
homes,
other
taxable
properties,
to
be
no
greater
than
three
percent.
Now,
given
how
robust
our
property
values
are
here
in
northern
virginia
and
arlington,
this
policy
has
never
been
a
factor.
We
would
actually
exceed
any
of
the
other
policies
before
we
would
exceed
this
one.
R
So
in
the
10
years
we
range
from
1.3
to
1.6
so
well
under
that
that
policy
there,
the
the
final
policy
is
maintaining
that
debt
service
growth
in
our
planning
for
the
10
years
is
consistent
with
what
we've
seen
historically.
So
what
we
used
is
from
fiscal
2013
through
2022
adopted
budget.
We
have
growth
of
four
and
a
half
percent
on
average
annually
and
in
our
10-year
cip
it
is
3.6,
so
it's
a
little
bit
lower,
but
it's
in
in
the
range
of
where
we
have
been
historically.
R
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
we'll
talk
about,
you
know
the
funding
sources
in
the
cip
and
how
we
pay
for
it
so
geo
bonds.
They
do
make
up
a
very
large
portion,
but
34
of
the
total
cip-
and
this
is
county
only.
R
This
does
not
include
schools
at
this
time,
but
it's
34
second
largest
funding
source
is
our
transportation
capital
fund,
that's
17,
and
then
after
that
comes
the
state
and
federal
revenues
followed
by
paygo
state
and
federal
grants
and
then
other
funding
sources
such
as
developer
contributions,
short-term
financing,
which
is
a
lot
of
our
technology
projects,
finance
tax,
increment
financing,
some
of
the
tif
districts,
sanitary
district
tax
revenues
is
lowest
than
some
other
sources.
R
So
one
thing
to
know
is
that
a
lot
of
the
sources
that
are
noted
here
are
restricted
in
their
use,
such
as
transportation,
capital
fund,
developer
contributions,
those
sanitary
district
taxes,
grants
and
state
and
federal
revenues.
So
they
usually
have
a
specific
item
or
program
they
have
to
be
used
towards.
R
S
R
Like
we
just
went
through
this
again,
it's
the
third
year
in
a
row,
we
usually
have
a
you
know
one
off
year,
but
we
haven't
with
covid.
R
So
what
we
have
here
on
the
county
side
is
a
request
for
125
million
in
total
for
referenda
authority
spread
among
three
bond
referenda,
and
so
you
can
see
the
breakdown
it's
52
million
for
community
infrastructure,
which
are
projects
such
as
the
arlington
neighborhoods
program.
Formerly
neighborhood
conservation
courthouse
some
renovations
at
the
courthouse
complex
here
in
in
the
courthouse
neighborhood
and
then
across
the
street
at
the
quartz
police
building
some
improvements
there
and
then
there
are
some
fire
station
replacements
and
additions
and
some
other
general
accounting
infrastructure
projects.
R
20
million
is
for
parks,
which
includes
phase
two
of
generating
park,
the
emerging
use
and
uses
program,
the
trail
and
bridge
modernization,
as
well
as
various
park
renovations
and
improvements,
as
well
as
design
funding
for
the
bow
house,
metro
and
transportation.
This
tends
to
be
one
of
the
larger
requests.
Each
year
we
have
43
million
for
metro
and
then
7
million
for
paving
and
then
smaller
amounts
for
various
transportation
program
needs.
R
Stormwater
is
also
requesting
their
second
referendum
since
they
started
issuing
bonds,
and
this
is
for
40
million,
while
utilities
is
requesting
a
large
request
of
177
million,
which
is
better
for
more
than
two
years.
It's
a
five
or
six
year
project,
but
it's
for
their
phases,
two
and
three
of
their
solids
master
plan.
R
So
at
the
various
work
sessions
the
counties
having
we're
discussion,
we
discussed
all
the
individual
projects,
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
that
this
evening,
but
if
you've
watched,
we
just
had
transportation
to
metro.
Yesterday
yesterday
we
have
two
other
work
sessions
where
we'll
cover
the
rest
of
the
projects.
R
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide
talk
about
regional
commitments,
the
biggest
one
here
is
metro.
So
I
want
to
talk
about
that
a
little
bit.
You
see,
356
million
just
for
metro
alone,
and
this
is
for
our
commitment,
which
were
you
know,
required
by
by
the
way
model
compact
to
fund
the
operating
as
well
as
capital.
So
this
is
just
the
capital
contributions,
so
we
have
356
million
over
10
years,
so
about
35
to
36
million
annually.
R
This
is
funded
with
a
combination
of
geo
bonds,
that's
a
larger
funding
component,
230
million
and
state
transit
aid,
which
is
126
million.
So
the
what
happens
is
the
fiscal
23,
the
geo
bonds.
We
issue
we
usually
one
year
in
advance
when
we
issue
this
year,
it's
actually
funding
next
year
to
make
sure
we
have
the
funding
of
day
one
because
we
pay
quarterly
so
july,
1
october
1.
T
Compliance
and
innovation
investments,
this
cip,
ensures
that
we
meet
the
second
set
of
ms4
permit
requirements
for
water
quality
and
moves
forward
with
significant
investments
at
the
water
pollution
control
plant
for
how
we
address
solids
and
new
innovation
opportunities
for
reuse,
also,
climate
and
transportation.
T
More
specifically,
in
the
stormwater
program,
the
proposed
cip
includes
331
million
dollars,
and
this
is
the
single
largest
increase
in
rcip
in
recent
years.
The
proposed
cip
investments
are
approximately
two-thirds
for
stormwater
capacity
and
flood
mitigation,
with
the
remaining
one-third
focused
on
water
quality
and
streams,
and
working
toward
a
state
of
good
repair
for
existing
stormwater
assets
in
the
area
of
stormwater
capacity,
investments
are
proposed
in
each
major
watershed.
T
The
proposed
cip
includes
617
million
dollars,
a
hundred
and
million
18
increase
over
the
last
10
years,
cip
for
our
utilities
program,
starting
from
the
bottom
of
this
slide.
This
increases
primarily
due
to
the
significant
investments
we're
making
at
the
water
pollution
control
plant
where
we're
moving
forward
with
the
solids
master
plan
and
that
will
modernize
our
infrastructure
on
the
solids
handling
side
of
the
plant
and
also
provide
for
innovative
resource
recovery.
T
The
second
largest
category
of
investment
in
our
water
sewer
systems
is
in
maintenance,
capital,
totaling,
245
million
dollars.
This
will
ensure
a
state
of
good
repair
for
the
close
to
500
miles
of
sanitary,
sewer
and
water
lines
and
pump
lift
stations.
Those
provide
essential
water
and
sewer
services
to
our
residents
and
businesses.
T
T
We're
investing
64
million
dollars
in
our
bridges,
including
the
partnership
with
the
city
of
alexandria
for
the
glebe
road
and
mount
vernon
bridges,
as
well
as
state
of
good
repair
for
33
other
bridges
on
columbia
pike.
The
cip
includes
continued
funding
for
completion
of
the
various
phases
of
the
multimodal
project
that
will
be
that
will
be
completed
by
2026.
T
T
T
Additional
funding
of
12
million
dollars
is
included,
but
funding
from
the
paving
program
is
also
being
used
to
support
this
program
and
our
walkers
and
in
the
area
of
transit.
The
proposed
cip
includes
continuation
of
important
projects
like
the
art
o
m
facility
and
the
two
new
metro
entrances
at
crystal
city
and
boston,
where
the
county
is
important.
Partners
with
the
commonwealth
and
the
development
community.
T
T
The
second
called
natural
resiliency
will
help
address
the
impacts
of
climate
change
and
flooding
on
our
parks,
helping
them
to
be
more
resilient
in
keeping
with
our
state
of
good
repair
priority.
The
park,
cip,
includes
three
programs
totaling
120
million
dollars
that
ensure
that
our
parks,
our
park,
trails,
bridges,
playgrounds,
courts
and
fields
remain
in
good
condition
and
safe
for
park
users,
users.
T
T
The
manager
is
proposing
funding
for
the
arlington
neighborhoods
program,
formerly
the
neighborhood
conservation
program,
totaling
80
to
85.2
million
dollars
over
the
course
of
the
10-year
plan.
This
level
of
funding
will
bring
our
annual
investment
back
to
previous
levels,
increasing
from
four
four
million
in
fiscal
years,
23
and
24
up
to
18
million
in
2031
and.
T
T
T
We've
talked
a
lot
gone
fairly
quickly
through
all
of
the
new
projects
that
are
being
proposed,
but
over
the
next
two
slides
show
some
of
the
major
projects
that
are
currently
underway.
I
won't
walk
through
all
of
these,
but
these
next
two
slides
give
you
an
idea
of
some
of
the
major
projects
that
are
currently
underway,
they're
in
various
phage
phases
of
implementation,
from
planning
to
design
to
construction.
T
We
had
a
very
robust
public
engagement
process.
This
time
we
had
2
400
total
participants
who
gave
feedback
on
the
cip
this
year,
1500
of
them
being
online.
T
This
year,
we're
really
excited
about
a
new
cip,
interactive
map.
This
map
shows
all
of
the
investments
across
the
county,
you're
able
to
filter
by
the
programs
the
program
categories,
the
various
status
where,
whether
it's
completed,
funded
or
proposed,
you
can
also
look
at
associated
master
plans
and
zoom
into
civic
associations.
There
is
also
an
overlay
from
the
2020
census
tract
to
give
information
on
the
percentages
of
people
of
color
in
the
county,
and
so
please
go
online
and
take
a
look
at
this
tool.
T
We're
really
excited
about
the
functionality
that
it
provides
and
the
information
that
you're
able
to
gather
from
it.
In
addition,
we
added
a
bit
more
functionality
to
our
project
pages
you're,
able
to
interact
more
you'll,
see
an
icon
such
as
this
will
that
you
see
in
the
top
once
you
click
on
this.
Will
it
takes
you
out
to
the
associated
master
plan?
That's
associated
with
any
particular
project,
also
included
on
the
project.
Page
are
various
links
that
take
you
out
to
additional
information
on
the
website.
T
Their
referenda
will
be
incorporated
into
the
cip
after
they
adopt
and
their
cip
will
be
adopted.
On
june
23rd.
T
And
wrapping
up,
as
jason
mentioned,
we
had
our
first
work
session
last
night
with
transportation
and
metro.
We
have
two
more
coming
up
on
june
14th
and
on
the
28th.
We
have
also
on
the
28th
our
public
hearing,
followed
by
the
final
board
markup
on
the
14th
and
board
adoption
on
july
16th
or
either.
I
believe
it's
the
19th,
which
is
that,
following
tuesday
and
with
that,
we
are
open
for
questions.
If
there
are
any
questions.
A
I
I
want
to
say
first
that
this
has
this
is
a
superlative
presentation
and
engagement
process.
I
do
not
I
you
know
I
was
before
I
started
on
the
planning
commission.
I
was
on
the
transportation
commission.
I
think
I
was
appointed
in
2014,
so
I've
been
around
for
a
few
of
these,
and
this
is
just
not
only
does
it
feel
good
to
be
back
in
in
the
normal
cip
process,
but
this
just
feels
like
we're
coming
back
to
a
good
place
with
a
vengeance.
A
That's
probably
not
the
right
metaphor,
but
I
just
I
am
so
pleased
with
the
content
of
the
presentation
and
the
richness
of
the
presentation
and
the
public
outreach
efforts
and
the
extent
to
which
you've
documented
those
outreach
efforts
and
the
projects
on
the
website.
This
is
a
fantastic
cip.
You've
communicated
it
in
such
wonderful
ways.
I
I
watched
part
of
the
county
board
work
session.
The
other
day.
I
watched
the
transportation
part
of
the
transportation
commission,
and
so
I'm
just
I
I
you
may
have
seen
me
yawning
a
little
bit.
A
It's
been
a
long
week,
but
that
is
not
because
this
isn't
just
an
incredible
place
to
be
at.
I
actually
don't
have
any
questions
I
wanted
to
to
weigh
in
that
way
before
opening
the
floor
to
any
questions
or
comments
or
other
feedback
from
my
fellow
commissioners,
commissioner
schroll
we'll
start
with
you,
and
the
commissioner
want
to
tell
me.
J
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
would
certainly
like
to
echo
your
congratulatory
words
to
staff.
I've
sat
through
a
number
of
these
as
well
and
seeing
some
familiar
faces
here,
mr
stevenson,
good,
to
see
you
again
yeah.
It
is
a
pleasure
to
sit
through
your
presentation
like
this,
so
kudos
to
staff
for
all
your
hard
work.
I
do
have
a
couple
questions,
maybe
best
directed
to
miss
tally,
and
so
the
first
is
about
the
14.2
million
dollars
for
kind
of
energy
efficiency,
renewable
energy,
evsc
other
things.
So
two
questions
there.
J
First
wondering
kind
of
what
type
of
electric
vehicle
charging
staff
is
envisioning
that
we'll
be
supporting.
So
is
it.
You
know
dc
fast
chargers,
level,
two
chargers,
I
guess
where
we're
expecting
it
to
go
as
well,
and
then
on
the
renewable
energy
front,
wondering
kind
of
what
renewable
energy
we're,
envisioning,
developing
or
purchasing
and
again
kind
of,
if
we're
developing
it,
where
we're
intending
that
to
go.
T
J
That
would
be
great,
I
know
we're
at
a
higher
level
tonight.
I
guess
also
great
to
hear
that
that
the
art
buses
are
going
to
be
zero
electric
buses
and
after
fiscal
24,
which
is
great
to
hear
wondering
if
we
know
kind
of
the
timeline
to
convert
the
whole
fleet
to
zero
electric
buses.
Do
we
have
a
sort
of
a
sense
there.
T
I
once
they
finished
the
study,
so
there's
a
study.
That's
currently
being
conducted
that'll,
be
completed
next
year
and
I
think
once
that
is
completed,
they'll
have
a
better
timeline
on
implementation.
J
Great
well,
it's
excellent
to
hear
that
that's
part
of
the
plan
and
my
last
question
is:
I
know
that
the
superintendent
is
bringing
forward
his
plan
and
kind
of
skimming
through
it.
It
didn't
seem
like
there
was
any
plan
for
clean
school
buses.
I
was
wondering,
given
the
money
in
the
infrastructure
bill
for
clean
school
buses.
J
T
Q
Well,
I
was
going
to
say
the
you
know
with
the
study
the
county's
doing
the
and
there's
also
the
the
study
that
you
know
will
need
to
be
completed
down
in
the
equipment
yard
where
to
put
the
buses
the
infrastructure
there,
how
things
are
going
to
move
around
on
that
site
a
lot
of
dynamics
going
on
there.
So
I
I
think
that
that
is
a
conversation
that
will
be
happening
over
the
next
couple
years
on
on
the
on
the
school
front
and
and
buses,
and
how
that's
going
to
play
out.
Q
I
think,
on
the
on
the
county
side,
we're
in
a
little
different
place
with
just
our
contracts
and
where
the
buses
are,
and
you
know
how
all
that's
going
to
work.
J
Yeah,
I
appreciate
that-
and
I
know
your
county
staff,
but
as
you're
talking
to
the
your
kind
of
counterparts
on
the
school
side,
there's
500
million
dollars
available
this
year
from
the
infrastructure
bill
for
for
clean
school
buses,
and
so
you
know,
there's
it's
two
and
a
half
billion
dollars
kind
of
open
for
everybody
and
then
there's
another
two
and
a
half
billion,
that's
kind
of
more
targeted
for
like
low
and
moderate
income,
kind
of
communities
and
poorer
communities,
communities
of
color
things
like
that.
J
So
but
two
and
a
half
billion
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money
that
we
could
be
pursuing
in
the
coming
years
to
deal
with.
This
well
again
appreciate
your
efforts.
Thank
you
for
a
great
presentation
and
appreciate
your
your
responses.
Tonight.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Yes,
this,
of
course,
as
mentioned,
did
come
up
the
transportation
commission
and
the
same
presentation.
The
same
level
detailed,
which
was
wonderful,
allowed
us
to
have
a
pretty
good
discussion
and
a
big
part
of
that
discussion
was
actually
on
the
electric
buses,
the
art,
buses,
questioning
the
quick
or
the
intent
to
do
a
quick
transition.
G
Would
it
be
better
overall
for
the
environment
to
have
spend
the
money
on
buses
more
buses,
which
would
allow
us
faster,
headways
or
shorter
headways,
which
will
encourage
more
transit
ridership
as
opposed
to
having
the
buses
be,
be
electric
or
be
fully
electric,
which
would
also
imply
that
we
need
chargers
along
even
along
the
routes,
because
some
of
our
routes
would
not
be
able
to
support
a
full
charge.
So
this
was
going
back
and
forth.
G
I
don't
know
if
either
mrs
talley
or
stevenson
want
to
comment
on
that,
because
I
know
we
have
studies
that
are
going
to
be
going
forward
which
might
give
us
more
more
information
on
this
and,
of
course,
the
state
of
technology
is
evolving
fairly
rapidly,
but
our
impression
was,
it
isn't
quite
there
yet
so
I'll
go
on
mute
now,
if
you
have
any
further
comments
on
that,
thank
you.
T
Yeah,
I
don't
have
anything
to
add
to
that.
That
was
discussed
in
the
work
session
yesterday
with
the
board
and
talking
about
you
know
what
the
right
fit
would
be
with
the
electric
buses,
how
many
we
would
need
to
get
not
it
not
at
the
moment,
especially
with
where
technology
is,
we
would
not
be
able
to
do
one
for
one.
T
You
know
needing
to
do
maybe
a
two
for
one,
so
that
making
sure
that
we
can
continue
to
have
the
same
level
of
service
that
we
currently
have
and
then
in
the
out
years,
maybe
getting
back
to
a
one
for
one
replacement
cycle.
That
is,
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
they
are
still
talking
through
and
whether
they
will
have
to
have
charging
stations
on
the
street.
T
A
Thank
you.
If,
if
that's
it,
then
I'm
gonna
go
to
commissioner
hughes.
K
In
yes,
great
presentation
this
evening
from
staff-
and
yes,
I
agree,
the
the
engagement
process
in
the
cip
exceeds
all
those
I've
done
for
a
long
time
now.
K
But
it
is
year,
seven
of
my
term
and
and
every
two
years,
I've
harped
on
the
same
issue
when
it
comes
to
the
cip
and
and
this
you
I'll
hire
upon
again.
Only
because
jean
who
was
a
former
commissioner
and
president
of
the
arlington
view,
civic
association
was
the
man
who
told
me
this
existed
and
was
a
big
champion
of
this
before
his
passing
and
miss.
K
I
just
want
to
bring
into
staff's
attention,
because
I
was
not
unaware
of
the
map,
which
was
even
cooler
when
I
went
to
go,
look
at
it,
but
for
staff's
attention.
The
army,
navy
connector,
is
not
on
the
map.
Currently,
although
it
is
listed
under
number
one
under
complete
streets
on
page
six
of
or
five
seven
of
the
cip
project
list
and
this
badger,
would
you
mind
putting
up
the
photo.
I
sent
you
real,
quick
just
for
my
fellow
commission,
see.
K
Thank
you,
miss
badger,
so
for
my
fellow
commissioners
in
2012,
more
or
less
the
county
received
as
part
of
a
psych
plan
change
the
access
between
arlington
view,
neighborhood
and
fundamentally
crystal
city,
pentagon
city.
What's
now
known
as
army
navy
connector
country
club,
and
in
that
easement
and
during
the
community
benefit
negotiation
process,
the
street
cutaways
you
see
on
the
right
were
what
was
presented
to
the
community
as
the
community
benefits.
K
K
So
if
we
do
not
build
it,
we
lose
that
land.
So
I
appreciate
everyone's
time
in
hearing
this,
commissioner,
where
I
appreciate
you
letting
me
have
my
last
on
this
in
my
time
and
for
staff,
I
hope
you
can
get
this
put
up
onto
that
map.
This
is
a
really
great
piece
to
be
listed
and
show
right
through
the
navy
country
club
connecting
arlington
view
to
pentagon
city
and
allowing
people
to
move
from
two
to
204
to
201
in
one
more
way
and
commissioner
weir.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
hughes,
for
what
it's
worth
to
staff.
I
I
know
that
you
heard
this
from
the
chair
of
the
transportation
commission.
I
also
support
the
and,
and
if
asked
would
advocate
for,
I
would
expect
to
be
asked,
but
if
asked
would
advocate
for
the
the
trail
option
instead
of
the
stairs
with
reynolds
and
and
for
the
reasons
articulated
by
kushner's
lap
that
that
you
know
it's
going
to
be,
we
can
expect
heavier
bikes
in
the
future.
A
E-Bikes
are
already
by
multiply
several
times
the
top-selling
electric
vehicle
in
the
world
and
and
that
use
not
only
should
we
expect
not
only
can
we
expect
that
use
to
to
increase.
We
should
expect
that
used
to
increase.
We
should
hope
it
increases
and-
and
rentals
are
well.
You
heard,
commissioner,
commissioner
slat
articulated
it
more
clearly
than
I
could,
but
you
know,
and
I
and
I
think
that
that's
the
just
the
gist
of
it,
is
communicated
to
my
fellow
members
of
this
commission
too.
A
A
Well,
thank
you
all
very
much
for
joining
us
tonight
again.
Thank
you
for
just
this
is
just
really
just
a
fantastic
presentation
and-
and
I'm
really
excited
to
be-
I'm
really
excited
to
have
seen
what
you
shared
with
us
this
evening.
Q
Thank
you
thank
you
and
if
I
could
just
add
one
thing
to
commission,
because
I
invited
please
this,
we
liaison
with
a
fiscal
affairs
advisory
commission
and
we
we're
trying
to
make
some
enhancements
to
the
to
the
the
document
and
the
website
presence
with.
As
karen
said
places
you
can
click,
you
can
go
to
master
plans.
You
know
we
have
the
map.
If
karen
didn't
talk
about
the
parameters
of
the
map,
you
know
the
two
years
back
and
two
years
forward.
Q
I
think
karen,
but
if
there
are
elements
that
are
not
included,
you
know
where
we
missed
a
master
plan
that
the
planning
commission
notices.
Please
let
us
know
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
build
upon
build
upon
this
and
we
hope
to
have
the
same
general
construct
in
the
next
year,
cip.
Q
But
you
know
if
you,
if
we're
willing
to
take
feedback,
you
know
if
you
see
things
that
are
in
maybe
missing
or
areas
that
we
can
play
do
enhancements
moving
forward.
So
I
just
invite
that
that
feedback
loop
to
us,
because
we
want
to
make
this
a
better
product
for
both
the
the
commissions
and
the
public
at
large.
A
Forward,
mr
stevenson
and
and
ms
talley
would
you
mind
then
sharing
the
the
presentation
with
the
commission
of
if
it's
not
already
on,
if
it's
not
already
on
our
meetings
page,
it
would
be
nice
to
circulate
that.
Unfortunately,
commissioner,
patel
isn't
here
this
evening
and
she's
the
vice
chair,
and
I
certainly
hope
that
she
will
be
chair
next
year
and
would
love
to
give
her.
A
I
would
love
to
specifically
invite
her
to
also
be
thinking
about
the
invitation
that
you
just
extended
with
you
know
the
time
between
now
and
then.
A
Well,
thank
you
again,
madam
clerk,
do
we
have
anything
if
we
don't
have
anything
else
on
the
cip?
Could
you
please
call
the
next
item.
A
A
Yes,
great
and
the
committed
and
the
april
minutes
are
circulated
as
well.
So
I
will
begin
by
entertaining
any
amendments
to
the
april
minutes.
A
Yes,
I'm
gonna
there
there
are
my
my
intent
is
to
is
to
seek
unanimous
consent
to
adopt
them
jointly.
But
if
there
are,
you
know
if,
if
anyone
has
any
changes,
commissioner
peterson.
I
So
I
don't
have
any
changes,
but
I
was
at
one
meeting
and
not
at
the
other,
so
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
participate
and
I
think
a
unanimous
consent
for
both
at
the
same
time
is
my
poor
understanding
of
the
rules.
A
A
A
Well,
so
hearing
no
amendments
I
would
seek
unanimous
consent
to
adopt
the
minutes
of
the
april
4
2022.
A
I
see
we're
joined
by
your
by
your
your
vice
clerk.
A
Thank
you,
mr
pfeiffer.
I
will
go
to
committee
reports.
I
am
going
to
actually
start
with
a
chairs
report.
I
have
two
items
that
I
want
to
brief.
Everyone
on
the
first
is
that
the
county
board
has
asked
for
commissions
to
identify
proposed
items
to
the
county's
legislative
priorities
for
2023.
A
A
So,
as
many
of
you
are,
or
maybe
all
of
you
are
aware,
there
is
a
recently
adopted
legislation
by
the
general
assembly
allowing
for
electronic
meetings
of
different
kinds.
I
have
good
news
and
bad
news
here.
The
good
news
is
that
the
general
assembly
has
seen
fit
to
authorize
virtual
meetings
for
public
bodies
in
virginia.
A
So
when,
when
that
legislation
takes
effect,
we
will
not
have
authority
as
a
planning
commission
to
meet
virtually,
we
will
have
authority
to
adopt
parameters
allowing
for
a
virtual
participation
by
individual
members,
and
there
are
some
outlines
to
what
those
parameters
will
be.
There
are
four
different
circumstances:
categories
of
circumstances
under
which
the
statute
allows
individual
members
of
the
planning
commission
to
participate
virtually
if
there's
a
if
a
member
has
a
temporary
or
permanent
disability
or
other
medical
condition
that
prevents
the
member's
physical
attendance.
A
If
the
member's
principal
residence
is
more
than
60
miles
from
the
meeting
location
which
doesn't
apply
to
us,
and
if
the
member
is
unable
to
attend
the
meeting
due
to
a
personal
matter
and
identifies
the
matter
with
specificity,
the
nature
of
the
matter-
and
we
are
only
able
to
use
the
remote
participation
option
due
to
personal
matters
twice
per
year
or
25
of
the
meetings
held,
I
that
a
question
that
will
get
resolved
is
whether
that's
two
meetings
or
25.
A
Whichever
is
greater,
that
being
said,
a
physical
quorum
must
be
present
in
person
in
order
for
anyone
to
meet
virtually,
we
have
to
adopt
an
electronic
meeting
policy.
A
The
requesting
member
has
to
notify
the
chair
or
staff
liaison
in
advance,
and
the
minutes
must
reflect
the
reason
for
the
virtual
participation
we
will,
as
a
commission
be
voting
in.
I
I
anticipate
that
we
will
be
voting
in
july
on
amendments
to
the
bylaws
to
in
the
out
to
our
bylaws
and
on
procedures
and
policies
for
electronic
meetings.
A
That
will
allow
us
to
take
advantage
of
of
these
options,
starting
in
september
and
it's
per
calendar
year.
As
I
understand
it,
so
you
know
your
your
your
two
meetings
or
25
starts
over
in
january.
That's
the
straightforward
stuff,
the
stuff,
that's
less
straightforward!
A
Good
news
here
is
that
staff
has
been
pouring
a
tremendous
amount
of
thought
and
creativity
into
how
we
can
amend
the
bylaws
and
adopt
procedures
to
enable
us
to
continue
to
utilize
the
flexibility
that
I
think
has
made
the
virtual
meetings
that
we've
been
able
to
conduct
over
the
last
two
years,
work
so
very
well
and
davonchi,
and
I
had
a
meeting
with
anthony
and
matt
pfeiffer
and
aaron.
A
Aaron,
schreiber
and
kelly,
and
there
were
a
few
other
people
as
well.
I
I
wish
I
could
remember
all
the
names
and
just
really
clear
that
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
thought.
That's
going
into
that
a
little
bit.
I
think
that
there's
a
little
bit
more
work
that
still
needs
to
happen.
Some
meetings
with
the
county
attorney
that
need
to
happen,
but
we
are.
A
But
there
is
a
lot
of
work
that
I
I
hesitate
to
say
we,
because
I'm
not
even
really
one
of
the
people
doing
most
of
the
work,
but
there's
an
incredible
amount
of
work.
That's
happening
right
now,
still
to
allow
our
many
sprc
and
lrpc
projects
to
continue
on,
while
still
facilitating
and
encouraging
and
welcoming
remote
and
virtual
participation,
both
from
the
public
and
from
the
table
members
and
as
well
as
from
us
members
of
the
commission.
A
So
that's
the
heads
up
that
will
probably
be
starting
in
person
again
in
september,
with
some
parameters
we'll
have
a
vote
on
on
those
parameters
for
the
main
commission
meetings
in
july
and
there'll
be
some
additional
work
on
the
committee
meetings.
Before
I
go
to
you,
commissioner
hughes,
I
want
to.
A
S
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
don't
have
anything
to
add.
I
think
that
you
explained
it
succinctly
and
clearly,
but
if
you
know
there
are
any
questions,
I'm
I'm
happy
to
chime
in
with
thoughts.
A
Thank
you.
It's
not
often
that
I'm
accused
of
being
either
succinct
or
clear.
So
I
appreciate
that
commissioner
hughes.
K
I'm
gonna
have
the
self-deprecation
day
this
evening.
Commissioner,
that's
good,
it's
just
a
question
for
clarity.
Is
it
july
we
have
to
meet
in
person
or
september?
I'm
just
confused,
because
I
always
thought
july.
First
is
when
all
the
state
laws
are
the
con.
K
Go
into
effect,
and
so
normally
that
would
imply
next
month
just
curious.
S
A
There
is
there's
no
way
forward
that
doesn't
include
I'm
going
to
share
this
slide,
there's
no
way
forward.
That
doesn't
include
at
least
some
presence
by
members
of
one
of
our
committees
for
an
sprc
or
lrpc
or
zoco
members
being
in
the
physical
room
and
I've.
A
I
understand
that
this
is
the
population
of
physical
rooms
that
we
will
have
available
to
us,
and-
and
the
thing
to
take
note
of
here
is
that
the
majority,
the
the
majority
but
just
barely
of
the
physical
rooms
are
in
the
bosman
building,
and
so
you
know
in
in
the
before
times
we
had
meetings
elsewhere.
It
looks
like
there's
a
possibility
that
we'll
be
having
more
meetings
elsewhere
and
we
do
not.
You
know
the
first
floor.
A
Rooms
no
longer
exist,
they're
no
longer
for
they're
no
longer
meeting
rooms,
so
these
will
be
some
of
our
homes
in
on
tuesday
and
thursday
evenings
going
forward.
Commissioner
hughes,
I'm
gonna
go
to
commissioner
peterson
and
then
question
hughes.
If
that's
a
new
question
I'll
go
back
to
you
after
that,.
I
Just
a
question
about
the
rooms.
I
know
there
was
discussion
about
possibly
letting
an
applicant
host
as
long
as
they
had
the
video
technology
to
to
do
so
so
that
we
could
have
the
meeting
available
to
the
public.
Is
that
no
longer
the
case,
or
are
we
only
limited
to
these
rooms
for
hybrid
meetings.
S
S
You
know
if,
if
they
you
know
had
had
the
appropriate
facilities,
so
I
don't
see
why
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
that
as
long
as
they
had
the
appropriate
technological.
You
know
equipment
available
to
host
the
hybrid
meeting.
I
think
that
you
know
that
that's
certainly
an
option
to
explore,
but
I
don't
want
to
say
that
definitively
at
this
time,
without
you
know
getting
that
question
answered
by
either
the
county,
manager's
office
or
or
the
county
attorney's
office.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
peterson,
mr
pfeiffer,
commissioner,.
J
Thank
you,
mr
pfeiffer.
A
few
questions
for
you.
So
first
are
all
the
meetings
going
to
be
hybrid
meetings.
S
Yeah,
it's
our
it's
our
intent.
I
think
that
that
these
would
all
be
hybrid
meetings.
You
know,
I
I
think
you
know.
If
you
wanted
to
read
the
strict
letter
of
the
law,
they
could
all
be
in-person
only
meetings,
but
I
think
at
this
point
you
know
our
community
is
accustomed
to
participating
virtually
and
I
think
you
know,
we've
seen
benefits
with
expanded
participation
even
having
that
virtual
absence
option.
So
you
know
I
think
it's
it's.
S
The
the
county,
manager's
office's
advice
that
you
know
we
set
up
both
commission
and
committee
meetings,
moving
forward
as
hybrid
meetings.
J
Thank
you,
and
then
is:
is
there
going
to
be
staff,
that's
going
to
be
facilitating
the
hybrid
portion,
while
planning
commissioners
will
be
running
or
managing
the
meeting
in
in
the
room.
S
Yeah,
that's
exactly
right.
I
I
think
the
thinking
is
that
you
know
we
would
have
at
least
one
staff
member
available
in
person.
It's
likely
that
that
staff
member
would
be
you
know,
kind
of
the
the
project
manager.
The
lead
planner
would
be
able
to
weigh
in
on
some
of
the
content
of
the
meeting.
We
would
also
have
at
least
another
staff
member.
You
know
at
meetings
to
help
run
the
logistics
of
the
online
portion,
the
virtual
portion
through
teams
and
then
the
role
of
the
the
the
project
chair.
S
You
know
for
sprc
or
lrpc,
or
what
have
you
would
be
in
person
facilitating
the
meeting
kind
of
as
as
normal,
so
it'd
be
kind
of
a
combination
of
the
way
we
did
things
in
the
before
times
before
the
pandemic
and
and
the
way
we
kind
of
currently
run
things
with.
You
know
virtual
committee
meetings.
J
Great
and
then
two
more
questions,
if
I
might
so,
is
there
what's
the
capacity
of
the
rooms
that
were
listed
and
kind
of
a
second
question
of
that
is:
will
there
be
any
limit
to
that
capacity,
kind
of
with
cobit
precautions
in
place?
Then
I
have
one
more
question.
S
There
there
are,
I,
I
don't
have
that
information
available
to
me
right
now,
although
we
can
make
that
available
to
the
commission.
For
for
your
information,
there
are
capacity
limits
to
each
of
the
rooms.
I
think
that
you
know
the
the
my
understanding
of
the
capacity
limits
is
that
these
this
was
the
capacity
that
was
established
if
people
were
unmasked
and
that
if
that
capacity
limit
was
exceeded,
then
you
know,
all
that
would
happen
was
would
be
that
people
would
have
to
to
mask
essentially.
J
Yeah,
I
think,
if
there's
going
to
be
in-person
stuff,
I'm
sure
you're
talking
about
that
understanding.
What
people
need
to
do
when
they
come
is
probably
a
very
important
thing
to
be
conveying
to
folks,
as
I'm
sure,
you're
all
talking
about
last
question
here,
is
there
any
thought
to
having
certain
meetings
kind
of
always
in
certain
rooms?
J
S
Commissioner
troll
I
have
to
apologize.
I
did
freeze
up
there
for
a
minute,
but
I
think
I
got
most
of
your
question,
which
is
just
make
sure
I
understand
the
question
was
about
whether
or
not
you
know
there
would
be
an
opportunity
for
you
know,
sbrc
or
lrpc
or
zoco,
to
try
to
book
the
same
room
or
facility
for
for
all
of
their
meetings.
I
think
that's
that's
a
great
question
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
can
look
into,
but
you
know
as
as
chairman
weir
showed
earlier.
S
You
know
the
conference
facilities
available
are
significantly
more
limited
than
they
were
previously
before
the
pandemics.
So
I
think
that
that
could
be
a
goal
of
ours,
but
I
think
we'll
just
have
to
see
how
it
shakes
out.
S
I
think
the
the
biggest
limiting
factor
was
the
the
security
upgrades
to
the
bosman
center
and
just
the
the
the
unavailability
now
of
those
ground
floor
conference
facilities.
J
J
I
do
think
it's
good
for
folks
to
know
when
they
have
a
site
plan
meeting,
that
they
would
just
go
to
cherry
dogwood,
and
they
just
didn't
have
to
think
about
that
right
and
it
was
a
weird
day
when
you
got
a
cherry
cherry
dogwood
and
it
wasn't
in
that
room
and
maybe
you
were
in
the
wrong
place
and
it
happened
on
occasion,
but
to
the
extent
we
can
have
that
replicability
and
understanding,
I
think,
would
be
helpful,
and
I
understand
that
we're
in
more
complicated
times
now.
A
Well,
commissioner,
stroll
one
other
thing
that
came
up
relevant
to
related
to
what
you're
asking-
and
this
is,
I
guess,
mr
pfeiffer,
for
your
benefit
as
much
as
anything
is
the
id
card,
access
restrictions
and
requirements,
and
if,
if,
if
the
meetings
have
to
be
partly
in
person,
if
we
have
to
have
x,
you
know
at
least
two
people
in
person,
then
there
has
to
be.
A
You
know:
coordination
of
people
shuttling
people
back
and
forth
or
you
know
seventh
floor-
has
to
be
unkeyed
off
for
for
that
meeting
and
that's
gonna
be
onerous,
but
it's
gonna.
Never
it
has
to
be.
You
know
it
has
to
be
figured
out
each
and
every
time.
A
Obviously
the
ship
is
gonna
creak
a
little
bit
the
first
few
months,
but
you
know
I
mentioned
earlier
today
right.
I
was
running
a
little
bit
behind,
but
I
met
we
met
in
the
elevator
anyway,
so
other
other
members
of
the
commission
with
questions.
A
Thank
you
again,
mr
pfeiffer,
to
you
and
your
colleagues
for
the
work
and
thought
you've
put
into
this.
I
know
that
we
have
a
little
bit
further
to
go
for
the
committees.
A
I
think
that
we're
all
cautiously
optimistic
that
we're
where
that
we're
gonna
be
where
we
need
to
be
for
our
september
meetings,
I'm
cautiously
optimistic
that
we're
gonna
get
where
we
need
to
get
for
the
whole
thing
by
you
know
by
the
time
to
adopt
the
policies
next
month.
Maybe
maybe
we
won't
be,
but
hopefully
we
will.
Let's
do
committee
reports,
then
traditional
peterson.
Do
you
want
to
go
first.
I
Sure
I'd
be
happy
to
I
sent
you
all
an
email
around
6
30
with
an
attachment
that
listed
the
active
preliminary
and
anticipated
near
site
plans.
We've
got
a
lot
coming
up,
most
of
them
have
chairs,
but
there's
a
small
handful
of
them
that
are
coming
up
in
the
next
few
months
that
don't
so.
I
If
you
are
looking
for
a
project,
please
reach
out-
and
let
me
know
otherwise,
you'll
be
hearing
from
me,
and
I
also
wanted
to
mention
that
save
the
date
june
15th
for
a
virtual
kickoff
lunch
meeting
for
our
upcoming
three
clarendon
projects,
joyce
motors
site,
chaired
by
commissioner
hughes
bingham
center
site,
which
is
also
silver
diner
chaired
by
commissioner
sarly
and
wells
fargo
verizon
site
chaired
by
commissioner
patel.
So
next
wednesday
at
noon,
staff
are
hosting
a
one-hour
community
kind
of
lunch
briefing
it'll
be
virtual,
so
you
don't
actually
get
lunch
included.
I
A
G
G
M
We're
looking
at
a
date,
I
haven't
heard
any
sort
of
final
date
for
the
july
zoko
meeting
to
cover
the
discussion
we
had
on
the
missing
medal,
but
I
will
share
either
commissioner
patel
or
I
will
share
with
the
rest
of
the
commission
as
soon
as
we
have
a
solid
date.
If
I'm
correct.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
sally.
I'm
sorry
took
me
a
second
to
get
off
mute,
kushner,
steinberg
steinberger,
with
pfrc.
L
Apologies
took
me
a
second
to
get
off
mute
as
well,
so
we're
still
in
the
midst
of
career
center
activity.
We
have
this
the
series
of
schematic
design
meetings
now
coming
forward.
The
next
one
is
on
july
june
22nd.
L
So
that's
just
in
a
couple
weeks
followed,
I
believe,
by
july
27th
and
then
august
31st
slightly
breaking
our
trend
of
planning.
Commission
does
not
have
any
meetings,
sub,
commission
or
otherwise.
In
august
this
meet.
That
meeting
is
viewed
as
essential
for
the
purposes
of
aps
continuing
to
make
their
target
deadlines.
L
L
L
I
understand
that
the
heights
garage
project
is
going
to
be
coming
back
to
planning
commission
next
month
with
some
changes,
not
all
the
changes,
but
I've
had
a
conversation
with
staff
and
there
will
be
a
recommendation
and
some
additional
explanations
and
dialogue
from
aps
with
regards
to
what
they're
proposing
on
that
project
as
well,
I
think
that's
everything
I
have
to
report
at
this
point
in
time.
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you,
commissioner.
We
are
we'll
be
having
the
third
meeting.
We
will
discuss
the
transfer
of
development
rights
from
the
establishment,
special
district
for
transfer
development
rights
to
support
the
macy's
project
sprc,
and
this
is
the
third
time
we've
heard
it.
The
second
full
meeting
dedicated
to
it
and
that's
our
coming
up
next
week.
So
that's
it.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
hughes.
I
believe
that
that
is
all
of
our
reports.
Madam
clerk,
are
there
any
other
items
on
our
agenda
for
the
evening.
A
Items
of
hearing
that
so
with
that,
then
thank
you
to
staff
and
applicants,
members
of
the
public
for
your
time,
consideration
and
patience
this
evening.
The
items
heard
the
item
heard
this
evening
is
expected
to
go
to
the
county
board
on,
I
believe
june.
18.,
the
board
carryover
meeting
is
the
21st,
but
I
would
expect
that
it
would
be
on
the
18th
where
commissioner
peterson
will
represent
the
planning
commission.