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A
Good
evening,
everybody
and
welcome
to
the
February
23rd
meeting
of
the
site
plan
review
committee
for
the
crystal
Towers
three
cycle
plan.
I'm
gonna
go
over
a
few
kind
of
logistics.
Before
we
jump
into
tonight's
agenda,
we
are
holding
a
hybrid
public
meeting
which
enables
remote
participation,
electronic
participation
as
legally
authorized
by
the
code
of
Virginia
part
of
the
planning.
Commission's
electronic
meeting
policy
adopted
July
7
2022
members
of
the
sprc
group
for
Crystal
Towers,
three
participating
both
here
in
person
and
virtually
through
electronic
meetings.
A
A
So
I'd
like
to
orient
people
to
the
virtual
environment
that
we
have
in
this
kind
of
hybrid
setup
and
cover
a
few
Logistics
members
of
the
public
made
attend
the
meeting
you're
in
person.
We
do
have
a
quorum
I'd
like
to
know
or
electronically,
by
using
the
Microsoft
teams
link
provided
on
the
SPs
webpage.
The
project
web
page
County's
Advanced
calendar
and
the
email
notification
sent
to
sprc
YouTube
subscribers.
A
Additionally,
there
is
a
dial-in
phone
number
for
anybody
who
wishes
to
use
it,
and
if
you
do
lose
internet
connectivity
tonight,
we
would
encourage
you
to
rejoin
us
by
phone.
Please
keep
your
phones
and
devices
muted
until
you're
called
upon
a
speed
turn
off
any
sound
to
any
other
devices
around
you
to
minimize
your
appearance.
For
those
folks
who
are
joining
us
by
Microsoft
teams.
I
would
encourage
you
to
turn
off
your
video
feed.
A
A
The
first
is
for
SP
or
C
group
members
who
do
technical
assistance,
and
the
second
is
for
members
of
the
public
to
add
their
names
to
the
list
for
public
comment
which
will
be
taken
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
The
chat
should
not
be
used
for
discussion.
Those
who
are
planning
to
provide
public
comment
will
still
need
to
do
so
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
as
the
chat
will
not
serve
that
opportunity.
All
public
comments
must
be
shared
verbally
for
the
public
record
have
assigned
public
period.
A
If
some
group
members
are
participating
virtually
wish
to
be
recognized
on
any
item
during
tonight's
meeting,
please
either
turn
on
your
video
feed
or
raise
your
virtual
hands
and
we'll
use
this
indicators
to
identify
who
wishes
to
speak
at
the
UF
staff
assisting
us
this
evening.
First,
if
some
group
members
participating
by
phone,
only
I
don't
have
the
video
auction,
please
let
me
know
now
again,
this
is
just
sprc
members
who
we
are
calling
in
Mr
land.
Do
you
have
anybody
who's
just
calling
in
okay?
Thank
you.
A
B
J
D
A
A
Well,
that
presentation
and
an
applicant
presentation
we're
really
here
to
kind
of
do
or
go
over
some
of
the
what
we
would
normally
go
over
in
our
first
site
plan,
which
is
site
layout
and
some
of
the
context,
the
land
use
zoning
and
it's
what
that
kind
of
initial
Building
height
massing
some
of
that
stuff.
So
following
both
presentations
and
we'll,
have
sprc
again
reminder
to
folks
who
are
joining
us
if
you'd
like
to
sign
up
for
a
public
comment,
please
check
that
into
the
chat,
but
that
is
Magic.
I
Awesome,
thank
you.
Courtney
Badger
again
I'm
with
the
Arlington
County
Planning,
Division
and
I
have
been
assigned
to
review
and
work
on
the
crystal
Towers
3
project.
So
my
presentation,
as
commissioner
troll
noted
it's
going
to
focus
on
the
topics
for
the
first
sprc,
so
land
use,
Building,
height,
building,
form
architecture
and
site
design,
so
starting
out
kind
of
orienting
us
to
the
site.
It's
located
in
Crystal
City.
It
is
between
15th
Street,
South
and
18th
Street
South
and
then
there's
Eid
Street
to
the
east
in
Front
Street
to
the
West.
I
The
outlined
in
white
here
is
the
boundaries
of
site
plan
number
13,
which
governs
the
site
and
almost
the
entirety
of
the
plot.
With
the
exception
of
the
crystal
Flats
building
in
the
Southeast
corner,
the
orange
faded
color
is
the
site
area
for
the
project
and
you
can
see
there
are
the
the
towers
buildings
that
are
existing
in
Lost
590,
so
that
kind
of
comprises
site
plan
number
13..
I
So
also
to
note
that
this
is
within
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan
area,
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan
existing
conditions
that
time
that
the
plan
was
adopted
or
similar
to.
What's
there
today,
the
crystal
Flats
building
was
redeveloped,
but
it's
in
a
similar
shape
and
the
sector
plan
did
contemplate
Redevelopment
on
this
site
and
the
proposed
plan
is
kind
of
an
illustrious
drawing
of
what
that
would
look
like.
I
So
the
applicant
has
submitted
a
site
plan,
amendment
to
site
plan
number
13
to
construct
two
new
buildings,
a
residential
building
and
a
retail.
The
Residential
Building
would
be
10
stories
tall,
not
including
the
mechanical
equipment
and
Penthouse
amenity
area.
It
would
be
through
132
feet
from
average
site
elevation
to
the
top
of
that.
Penthouse
consists
of
209
residential
units
over
8,
000
square
feet
of
ground
floor
retail
and
the
retail
building
is
on
the
the
bottom
image.
It's
one
story
varies
in
height
from
16
to
22.
I
I
I
They
are
also
consistent
with
the
Zoning
for
the
site,
so
the
site
is
zoned,
ra
4.8,
which
is
a
multiple
family
dwelling
District,
something
that's
a
little
bit
unique
about
this
project
is,
although
it's
in
Crystal
City,
they
are
not
requesting
a
rezoning
to
seal
Crystal
City,
they
are
are
sticking
with
the
ra
4.8
zoning
District.
So
it
kind
of
leads
into
our
next
topic,
which
is
Building
height.
The.
B
I
4.8
District
allows
for
a
maximum
height
of
136
feet,
including
the
penthouse,
so
looking
at
what
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan
recommends,
I
guess
I'll
back
up
for
a
second,
the
applicant
is
proposing
132
foot
height,
the
ra
4.8
zoning
District
allows
136
foot
height,
including
the
penthouse.
The
Crystal
City
sector
plan,
however,
calls
for
a
height
of
110
feet,
and
that
does
not
include
you
know,
so
that's
from
average
site
elevation
to
the
top
plus
a
23
foot
mechanical
equipment
that
could
go
on
top
of
that.
I
I
So
the
applicant
has
provided
this
rendering
here
on
the
left
that
overlays
the
Heights
map
onto
what
the
what
they
are
proposing.
So
you
can
see
this
shaded
Blue
Area
here
is
that
110
foot
height
and
they
are
exceeding
it
here-
and
this
is
the
area
that's
really
exceeding
that
they
do.
Taper
down,
as
you
get
into
the
block
below
that
at
60
foot
height,
that's
called
for
an
interior
of
the
block.
I
Included
this
is
to
give
some
context
to
the
surrounding
buildings,
so
this
is,
if
you
are
on
each
Street,
looking
at
the
building,
it's
a
cross
section,
so
you
have
the
crystal
Flats
building
here
and
my
laser
pointer
is
right
at
the
top
of
where
that
Crystal
Flats
building
is
so
just
to
give
you
context
of
how
it
fits
into
that
context.
Then
this
line
here
with
my
kind
of
buffering
laser
pointer
is
the
South
Crystal
Towers
building
and
then
on
the
other
side,
this
line
is
the
North
Crystal
Towers.
I
I
First,
the
main
kind
of
design
guideline
that
the
sector
plan
promotes
is
that
buildings
are
comprised
of
a
Podium,
Tower
and
top
there's,
also
a
call
for
multiple
step
backs
or
a
single
step
back
approach
and
then
also
engaging
build
two
lines
so
looking
at
elevations
of
the
residential
building,
this
is
just
to
Orange
who
this
is
from
North.
Looking
at
the
the
elevation
each
street
is
off
to
the
left.
The
building
and
staff's
opinion
does
meet
the
sector
plan
guidance
for
the
step
back
approach.
I
The
the
area
that
we
consider
a
deviation
is
this
recessed
ground
floor
right
here.
It
doesn't
engage
the
build
to
line
within
the
zero
to
two
feet.
That's
called
for
the
sector
plan
I
believe
the
the
sector
plan
specifically
calls
for
80
of
the
frontage
stink
Asia
Bill
2
line.
So
that's
the
second
sector
plan
TBH
and
you
can
kind
of
see
a
rendering
of
what
that
looks
like
a
little
bit
closer
up
here.
So
you
have
the
floors.
I
Two
through
four
are
at
the
building
line
with
the
ground
floor
kind
of
recessed,
back
moving
on
to
site
design,
I'll
just
point
out
a
few
things:
I
I
know
we're
going
to
talk
more
about
the
internal
circulation
and
traffic
patterns
at
our
next
meeting.
When
we
talk
about
Transportation
but
just
to
highlight
a
few
things.
So
this
is
the
the
residential
building.
I
Main
entrance
for
the
residential
kind
of
be
more
interior
to
the
site.
There
is
a
loading
dock
proposed
in
the
back
of
the
building
there.
The
third
sector
plan
deviation
that
I'll
touch
on
is
the
the
distance
between
the
crystal
Flats
building,
which
is
existing
and
the
proposed
residential
building.
So
the
sector
plan
calls
for
a
40-foot
separation
between
podiums.
The
applicant
is
proposing
30
foot
in
their
plan,
set
that
they've
submitted.
A
H
H
To
SAS
presentation,
the
site
is
located
on
a
portion
of
the
crystal
Towers
property
founded
by
ease
15th,
Fern
and
18th.
Street
dweck
currently
owns
both
Crystal
towers
and
Crystal
Flats.
So
we
up
own
and
operate
over
1100
units
on
the
Block
lost
590
does
have
separate
ownership,
as
was
kind
of
indicative
of
many
of
the
Charles
C
Smith
buildings
developed
in
and
around
this
time.
Crystal
Towers
is
a
very
large
building
at
912
units,
surrounded
by
a
field
of
service
parking
and
looking
at
the
utilization
of
that
parking.
B
H
As
was
Badger
noted,
both
lost
590
in
Crystal
Towers
currently
exist
in
site
plan
13,
which
was
originally
approved
in
1965.
Crystal
Flats
was
entitled
under
a
separate
site
plan
and
was
rezoned
to
CEO
Crystal
City.
We
are
submitting
a
major
amendment
to
site
plan
13
without
requesting
rezoning,
which
establishes
the
ra
4.8
is
the
governing
zoning
policy
for
the
project.
However,
it
does
fall
within
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan
boundary,
so
we
have
looked
at
that
for
guidance
specifically
really
to
design
components.
H
Looking
at
this
question
on
Building
height
that
we,
as
staff
indicated,
we
have
a
clear
deviation
from
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan
and
that
we
are
compliant
with
that
area
shaded
in
light
blue.
But
the
the
deviation
comes
in
the
location
of
the
taper
that
we
have
proposed
a
location
of
the
building
taper
that
is
further
west
interior
to
the
block
than
was
indicated
by
this
130
foot.
Dimension,
that's
from
the
building
Heights
map
from
the
sector,
plane.
H
Contemplated
for
the
clock,
there
was
the
you
can
see
my
cursor.
There
was
the
Redevelopment
located
at
the
corner
of
18th
and
East,
which
ended
up
becoming
Crystal
Flats,
albeit
a
different
form
than
the
Electric
Plant
contemplated.
There
was
also
an
infill
development
contemplated
Above,
That
central
lobby
area
and
when
you
look
through
the
diagrams
located
in
the
sector
plan
that
Redevelopment
of
the
lobby
was
at
a
height
and
bulk,
consistent
with
the
maximum
for
an
RA
4.8
zone,
so.
B
H
This
was
the
graphic
that
staff
had
as
part
of
their
presentation
but
highlights
the
deviation
occurring
and
the
difference
in
location
of
the
taper
that
the
building
still
does
taper
from
a
total
Building
height
of
132.
It's
just
we're
like
an
inch
and
a
half
under
133
feet
down
to
25
feet,
as
we
did
to
the
existing
entry
to
Crystal
Towers,
but
the
location
of
the
taper
does
push
further
west
into
the
block
beyond
that
130
foot.
H
H
Level
of
below
grade
parking
with
42
spaces
that
the
intention
is
to
utilize
the
additional
excess
parking
located
at
Crystal
Towers.
In
order
to
support
the
the
proposed
application,
the
retail
building
has
an
undulating
roof
line
but
extends
up
to
23
feet
in
height
as
over
19
000
square
feet
of
retail
space,
and
we
have
allocated
30.
B
H
The
curb
cut
serving
the
retail
to
the
north
as
you
get
closer
to
15th
Street
is
the
relocation
of
the
existing
curb
cut
it's
moving
slightly
further
south,
but
provides
access
to
the
existing
loading
dock
for
the
crystal
Towers
North
building,
as
well
as
to
loading
for
the
new
retail
building
I'm,
not
going
to
go
through
a
series
of
renderings
showing
kind
of
the
before
and
after.
This
is
an
aerial.
You
can
see
that
the
two
buildings
that
are
being
proposed
in
the
application
are
generally
highlighted
by
the
red
boxes
and
here's
the
site
area.
H
Again.
You
can
see
that
driveway
located
in
the
same
location,
going
back
up
to
the
existing
Crystal
Towers
Lobby,
has
been
fully
renovated.
The
mass
and
bulk
of
the
proposed
multi-family
building
is
intended
to
match
both
Crystal
flats
and
towers,
and
then
you
can
see
the
retail
Building
located
in
the
surface
parking
lot.
As
you
get
closer
to
15th
Street,
we
have
been
very
intentional
in
the
expansive
use
of
green
roof.
H
So
here's
the
existing
view
as
if
you're
traveling
south
on
Eaves.
This
is
the
existing
driveway
going
up
to
Crystal
Towers.
You
can
see
Crystal
Flats.
In
the
background
on
the
left
and
here's
the
proposed
building
from
an
architectural
perspective,
we
have
a
very
transparent
ground
floor,
trying
to
bring
the
activation
of
that
retail
out
onto
each
street,
with
a
separation
between
the
retail
use
and
the
residential
above
through
the
strong
brow
feature
the
architecture.
H
The
architecture
is
intended
to
be
a
porcelain,
Rain
Street
with
segmented
windows
and
set
balconies,
bringing
a
more
modern
feel
to
the
property,
and
you
can
see
the
transition
in
the
facade
was
here
facade
materials
going
from
the
porcelain
screen
to
the
colored
metal
panel.
As
you
get
into
that
more
intimate
Courtyard
setting.
H
H
As
well
as
the
connection
of
that
brow
feature
into
the
existing
canopy
at
Crystal,
Towers,
which
we
think
will
provide
a
very
unique
and
interesting
architectural
feature
of
the
project,
this
is
as
if
you're
sitting
in
the
inside
corner
of
the
existing
Crystal
Towers
North
building
by
reducing
the
amount
of
surface
asphalt,
we're
able
to
expand
the
Planters
and
bring
that
courtyard
up
a
little
bit.
You
can
also
see
where
that
facade
breaks
and
materiality
moving
from
the
porcelain
main
screen
on
the
public
face
of
Eads
into
the
colored
metal
panel.
H
Thank
you,
and
here
is
the
location
between
the
North
side
of
Crystal
flats
and
the
south
side
of
the
proposed
building.
This
was
submitted
at
a
separation
of
30
feet,
as
staff
indicated.
We
are
currently
working
on
updating
this
to
meet
the
40-foot
sector
plan
recommendation
and
we
plan
to
get
those
drawings
over
to
staff
early
next
week.
G
H
H
This
is
over
top
of
the
existing
Lobby,
where
we've
proposed
to
structurally
reinforce
that
area
in
order
to
get
intensive
green
roof
which
get
like
real
plants
up
there
that
again
helps
with
storm
water
capture.
It
helps
to
bring
some
of
the
sustainability
ethos
back
into
a
1965
structure,
which
we
think
it
kind
of
is
beneficial
on
a
number
of
levels
and
here's
the
existing
condition
along
each
Street.
This
is
looking
at
the
Crystal
Towers
North
building,
where
the
proposed
retail
is
going
to
go.
H
It's
located
on
the
right.
The
undulating
roof
line.
This
moves
around
the
very
transparent
ground
floor
with
that
porcelain,
rain
screen
above
we're
now
going
to
swing
moving
West
onto
18th
Street.
You
can
see
the
curb
cut
that
goes
back
to
the
loading
dock
and
provides
access
to
the
relocated
parking
entry,
we're
going
to
swing
now
going
north
on
Fern
and
we're
going
to
enter
the
property
through
the
curb
cut
between
loss,
590
and
Crystal
Tower
South.
H
You
can
start
to
get
a
sense
for
how
the
proposed
building
kind
of
Nestles
itself
nicely
in
conjunction
with
the
two
existing
towers
and
now
popping
up
over.
You
can
see
the
extensive
route.
The
extensive
use
of
green
roofs
helps
to
Green
up
the
proposed
buildings
as
well
as
helps
to
improve
the
Aesthetics
for
all
of
the
residents.
Looking.
L
H
Now,
moving
down
onto
Eads,
moving
up
the
fully
renovated
driveway
that
turn
around
providing
the
same
type
of
circulation
pass
that
exists
today.
The
brow
feature
now
ducking
through
this
canopy
connection,
if
you
think
very
interesting
as
you're
moving
through
the
space
there's
the
kind
of
the
activated
outdoor
Courtyard
that
I
mentioned,
and
then
moving
back
down
into
the
south
side,
Sidewalk
that
provides
expansive
outdoor
retail
seating
opportunities,
which
we
think
will
be
really
enticing,
as
well
as
access
back
to
that.
The
Bike
Room
in
pet
spot
and.
A
A
A
C
I'm
not
sure
how
to
interpret
parts
of
the
sector
plan
because
of
that
and
when
I
should
be
concerned,
that
you're,
not
even
clients
and
where
I
should
be
happy
that
you
are
at
the
clients
and
kind
of
a
broader
question
is:
how
does
your
decision
make
if
you've
had
your
staff
decision
making
and
how?
How
does
it
impact
things
like
Community
benefits
and.
O
J
Love
to
start
it
off
and
then
maybe
kick
it
over
to
Robert
the
it's
primarily
a
distinction
between
thought
and
policy.
So
law
is
the
underlying
zoning
district
and
that'll
set.
You
know
legal
limits
on
what
you
can
do.
The
sector
plan
is,
in
this
situation,
a
policy
document
that
has
recommendations
for
how
to
build
out
the
site.
You
know
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan
has
been
codified
in
many
elements
into
the
Chris
CEO
Crystal
City,
section
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
B
J
Perspective,
there's
not
really
a
difference
here,
because
the
base
density,
which
is
you
know
the
amount
of
density
you
can
get
on
the
site
with
site
plan
approval
prior
to
earning
density
with
Community
benefits,
is
the
same
under
ra
4.8
and
under
the
cocc
section
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
The
base
density
is
a
3.24
far
under
either
circumstance.
I
A
A
F
But
at
the
same
time
another
design
principle
is
that
they're
eradicating
a
number
of
trees
and
I'm
I'm,
not
saying
that
that
in
a
showstopper
I'm
talking
to
you
but
I,
would
ask
the
staff
take
a
look
at
the
magnitude
of
the
loss.
How
many
mature
trees
are.
We
dealing
with
the
actual
number
I
know
the
applicant
proposing
to
replace
trees
and
maybe
I
believe
more
trees
than
there,
removing,
which
is
a
good
thing,
but
those
trees
will
take
a
long
time.
F
I
F
H
I
mean
I
I
think
we
we
recognize
that
the
plan
is
removing
several
winter
trees.
I
can
look.
The
number
up,
I
believe
that
the
number
is
84
trees
in
total
I.
Don't
have
the
distinction
between
very
large
canopy
trees
and
shrub-like
trees,
as
you
mentioned,
and
I
believe
that
we're
planning
to
plant
99
trees
within
the
site
plan
boundary.
We
have
looked
across
the
balance
of
the
property
to
see
where
our,
where
there
are
additional
locations
outside
of
where
the
site
area
is
where.
B
H
B
H
A
A
B
H
B
H
Average
maximum
utilization
over
the
past
several
years
and
that
I
think
is
kind
of
the
balance
point
that
we've
gotten
to
in
terms
of
the
number
of
parking
spaces
and
the
surface
parking
that
we're
taking
away
from
the
project
relative
to
the
number
of
Park.
Here,
the
number
of
Parkers
that
we
haven't
seen
at
Towers
over
the
past
several
years
and
the
anticipated
demand
from
the
additional
uses.
H
B
H
A
K
Thanks
I
wanted
to
emphasize
on
the
threes
I
guess.
This
is
interesting
a
lot
and
we'll
talk
about
this
at
the
next
time.
It
is
if
you
haven't
been
to
the
site.
They
are
particularly
where
the
retail's
going
in
pretty
large
trees.
This
is
an
ultra
site.
So
right
when
we're
talking
about
replacement
threes,
we
are
talking
about
a
a
loss
to
the
neighborhood
of
when
you're
walking
down
that
sidewalk.
K
You
know
if
we
are,
if
we
do
decide
that
retail
is
the
best
use
and
I
actually
might
I
do
have
a
question
about
if
the
applicant,
if
you
all,
have
done
analysis
about
retail
viability,
you're,
not
smart,
about
type
of
retail
that
will
work,
but
if
we,
if
retail,
does
go
in
and
trees
go
away.
That's
you
know
a
lot
of
shade
canopy
for
people
walking
on
the
sidewalk.
K
A
H
Yeah
I
mean
we.
We
obviously
think
that
the
retail
is
viable,
given
that
we're
proposing
it
that
there
is
a
fundamental
transfer
transformation
of
each
Street,
going
on
from
the
ground
floor
and
Retail
perspective,
with
Amazon
opening
up
just
across
15th
Street.
They
fully
leased
up
their
retail
six
months
ago.
H
They
intentionally
went
with
a
very
specific
retail
strategy
that
excluded
a
number
of
retailers
for
very
good
reasons
that
they
decided
that
they,
they
would
even
consider
to
be
located,
and
we
have
seen
strong
retail
interest
in
our
other
buildings
throughout
Crystal
City,
really
coming
back
post
covet
to
where
we
certainly
think
that
there
will
be
tremendous
interest
in
this
retail
in
terms
of
specific
uses
or
specific
retailers.
Work
too
early
on
in
the
process,
to
kind
of
really
have
any
clear
indication
on
that.
K
H
Things
the
plan
includes
27
000
square
feet
of
retail,
which
is
a
fair
amount
of
retail.
It
will
be
a
mix
that,
in
order
to
support
that
level
of
retail,
it
will
be,
you
will
have
mix
and
diversity
amongst
the
retailers
I.
Don't
we?
We
don't
believe
that
the
19
000
square
foot
will
necessarily
will
will
be
a
single
user.
L
Yes,
I
share
Ben's
ish
concerns
about
retail
viability
generally,
but
I
I
also
understand
that
this
would
not
be
undertaken
if
there
wasn't
some
assurance
that
it
would
work
so
I
think
we
have
to
take
that
on
faith.
I
particularly
do
share
the
concern
about
the
loss
of
landscaping
and
and
trees,
and,
of
course,
there
will
be
probably
more
trees
put
than
are
lost,
but
it's
going
to
take
decades
before
they
approach.
What
we're
accustomed
to
looking
at
I
would
point
out
in
this
ground
floor
plan.
L
That
to
me,
is
an
opportunity
if
the
travel
Lanes
remain,
as
shown,
it's
an
opportunity
to
retain
a
very
small
percentage
of
the
mature
and
existing
plantings,
and
so
I
would
just
encourage
those
who
are
looking
at
at
the
green
part
of
this
plan
to
try
to
save
a
few
of
the
plantings
which
are
there
now
and
which
really
are
welcome
and
attractive.
Addition
to
the
existing
Towers
thanks.
A
E
A
E
A
E
So
this
is
the
dead
end
here,
I'm
happy.
We
can
talk
about
that
at
the
next
meeting,
so
prepare
for
that.
I
am
happy
that
you're
pushing
or
maybe
wider
here
and
again.
This
is
a
discussion
for
the
next
one,
but
it
gives
more
opportunity
to
make
that
a
bit
more
biophilic
and
friendlier
that
that
very
narrow
thing
that
doesn't
leave
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
something
that
would
be
welcoming.
Otherwise,
it's
just
a
really
weird
narrow
space.
A
E
A
I
just
encourage
folks
around
the
table
to
as
you're
talking
about
things,
maybe
use
more
language
than
you
would
need
to
communicate
to
the
room,
because
there's
folks
that
don't
see
what
422
would
be
like
yeah,
the
points
will
take
in
the
folks
during
this
online
is
a
question
about
the
the
alley
Dead
ending
and
about
science
circulation
around.
That
I
think
we
can
certainly.
O
C
The
wild
and
it's
just
this
big
ugly
wall
and
make
it
beautiful
make
it
green
make
a
one
element.
I.
Also
totally
support
of
the
comments
under
the
other
questions
on
the
loss
of
green
with
the
retail
and
I
would
like
to
know
a
lot
more
about
the
retail
next
time.
My
specific
question
about
the
retail
is
I
only
see
two
infants
in
the
center
and
how,
if
there's
more.
C
O
A
A
M
Yeah
thanks
I
wanted
to
throw
my
throw
my
hat
in
with
those
who
definitely
want
to
talk
about
the
retail
LA
and
its
current
dead
end
status
next
time
around
and
I
also
wanted
to
raise
from
a
circulation
standpoint.
I
think
largely.
This
looks
great.
I
would
really
like
to
see
a
direct
entrance
from
the
Bike
Room
into
the
alley
on
the
plans.
M
Right
now,
it
looks
like
you've
kind
of
got
to
go
through
the
long
way
around
the
hallway
and
through
several
doors,
to
get
your
bike
in
and
out
and,
as
we
all
know,
going
through
doors
well
pushing
the
bike
is
challenging,
so
just
wanted
to
throw
throw
that
comment
in
there.
While
we're
talking
about
circulation.
A
B
A
E
I
did
go
on
the
walking
tour
and
got
to
see
the
site
up
close,
it's
clear
to
me
that
the
sector
plan
didn't
really
take
into
account.
The
two
existing
buildings
were
really
weren't,
going
to
be
going
away,
that
they're,
pretty
and
and
shouldn't
go
away,
they're
a
huge,
huge
investment
in
energy
embedded
energy
that
you
know
we
want
to
be
able
to
keep
those
and
then
and
continue
using
those
that
said,
they
way
way
exceed
what
the
guidance
is
on
the
sector
plan.
E
This
new
building
would
not
be
seen
by
anybody
to
the
West
I've
walked
around
there,
and
the
two
existing
buildings
will
totally
block
anybody
from
seeing
them.
So
it
strikes
me
that
this
and
given
all
the
huge
amount
of
parking
space
there,
which
doesn't
make
any
sense-
and
the
sector
plan
rightly
discourages
this
I
think-
is
a
great
solution.
E
I
have
no
concern
no
problem
whatsoever
in
it
not
complying
with
the
ideal
of
what
the
sector
plan
is
saying
for
that
site
by
putting
those
taller
buildings
there
that
one
tall
building
there,
given
that
the
other
two
buildings
aren't
going
to
go
anywhere
and
dominate
the
site.
This
is
a
great
infill
and
it's
it's
simply
consistent
with
what
already
exists
and
I
think
that,
basically,
you
know,
the
spirit
is,
it
is
most
of
its
bulk
is
towards
toward
8th
Street.
E
A
C
B
O
H
H
C
F
L
H
P
B
G
C
O
Q
H
G
C
A
K
Could
you
just
talk
through
someone?
It
was
a
slide
like
the
difference
between
the
sector
plan
and
how
it
defines
height
with
the
inclusion
or
exclusion
I
forget
it
depends
house
versus
the
zoning,
or
maybe
like
one
definition,
I
had
this
Penthouse
in
one
dozen
in
terms
of
mechanical
sector
and
how
it
kind
of
shakes
out
in
terms
of
the
Practical
difference
between
the
height
like
if
you
did
apples,
apples
comparisons.
A
I
So
the
the
zoning
ordinance,
the
ra
4.8-
does
height
from
average
site
elevation
to
the
very
like
top
of
the
structure,
so
that
includes
mechanical
Penthouse
roof.
All
that
stuff
is
included
in
that
height
calculation,
the
CEOs,
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan
in
Seal,
Crystal
City
measures
height
differently.
They
do
average
site
elevation
to
the
top
of
the
building,
not
including
the
mechanical
equipment,
patents
area.
H
Space,
but
from
an
overall
building
from
an
overall
building
Mass,
we
are
consistent
and
this
was
intentional
and
that
we
intentionally
designed
the
building
to
meet
the
CEO
Crystal
City
height
requirement
along
each
street.
So
we
are
consistent
with
the
133
foot
overall
Building
height
Mass
bulk.
The
difference
comes
where
you
see
the
Shaded
Blue
Zone
from
the
building
Heights
map.
That
is
indicating
where
the
sector
plan
has
recommended
110
foot
building
height,
which
is
103
foot
overall
height
for
that
130
130
feet
deep
into
the
block.
H
B
G
B
K
You
know
it's
it's
a
little
bit
of
differences
in
apples
and
Origins
comparison
rather
than
things
that
would
significantly
impact.
You
know
how
the
neighborhood,
of
course,
using
experiences
the
building,
so
I'm,
not
sure
there
are
major
concerns
with
the
height
is,
is
kind
of
thing
scanned
right
now.
D
A
A
I
For
80
of
the
frontage
should
Engage
The
build
two
lines
between
zero
and
two
feet,
so
the
the
build
to
line
on
this
building
is
where
this
kind
of
force
two
through
four,
are
so
this
is
the
the
bill
to
line
the
ground
floor
is
not
engaging
that
bill
to
line
for
that
zero
to
two
feet.
It's
rather
recessed
back
beneath
it,
and
here
is
kind
of
a
rendering
of
what
that
looks
like.
Is
that
a
good
enough
summary.
C
E
E
Well,
you
know
I,
like
the
looks
like
it's
almost
two
stories
of
glass
that
we
can
see
in
with.
It
gives
a
little
protection
from
rain
and
weather.
It
gives
more
width
to
walk.
You
could
probably
put
some
tables
out
there
or
chairs
if
it's
a
restaurant,
so
all
of
those
things
work
really
well
and
since
the
building
above
that
that
that
ground
level
does
come
out
to
the
bill
two
line,
the
building
will
keep
the
facade
along
the
long
Eid
Street.
E
Keep
that
building
line
consistent
all
the
way
along
Eid
street,
so
I
think
it
actually
works
quite
nicely
and
I,
don't
think
it
violates
the
spirit
of
the
sector
plan
by
having
that
that
that
being
set
back
sit
back
a
bit,
it
certainly
doesn't
make
it
too
hard
to
walk
to
those
retail
areas.
It
doesn't
hide
them
if
anything,
I
think
it
makes
it
inviting.
D
G
B
D
B
K
D
Aids
and
arcades
you
know
and
creating
that
sense
of
sort
of
interstitial
space
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
shy
space
and
then
the
entrance
of
the
building.
You
know
and
for
some
reason
we're
not
very
keen
on
that.
So
you
know
and
and
I
think
I
think
the
notion
of
holding
an
edge
is
to
create
that
consistent
Edge
throughout
the
entire
Street.
D
A
E
To
you,
I,
like
the
I
like
the
front
there
I
like
the
panels,
the
white
panels,
I,
think
that
looks
really
good.
It's,
Not,
Just,
Pure,
Glass,
so
I
think
that's
energy
efficient
too
around
the
back
I
like
to
transition
back
there
with
the
different
color
panels,
I,
particularly
like
the
setbacks
on
the
west
side
of
the
building.
It
was
one
of
the
slides
that
came
up
with
the
rendering
it's
not
just
flat
setbacks.
It's
sort
of
Cubes
that
are
just
going
through,
which
I
think
is
a
really
interesting
look
to
it.
E
I
also
think
the
back
part
is
pretty
respectful
of
the
existing
buildings
which,
when
I
walked
on
it.
I
was
actually
quite
surprised
that
I
was
liking.
Those
old
buildings,
their
mid-60s
I,
guess
vintage,
but
they
look
like
they
really
did
a
nice
job
in
designing
those,
especially
compared
to
I.
Think
it's
Crystal
crystal
houses
to
the
South,
which
were
much
more
mundane
in
design,
whereas
the
existing
buildings
actually
looked
quite
nice
and
I.
E
D
Guess
I'll
go
falling
into
the
commission
Bill
and
tell
me
I'm
a
little
less
convinced
by
the
context
versus
contrast
and
I.
Don't
know
that
I
have
any
solutions
or
recommendations
at
this
point,
but
I
think
you
know,
there's
a
really
bold
and
a
really
directed
move
to
move
away
from
the
precedent
architecture.
That's
you
know
in
the
campus.
Let's
call
it
and
I'm
a
little
insured
like
the
curve.
D
You
know
really
introduces
a
very
strong
element
and
you're
really
differentiating
yourself,
but
then
there's
the
the
piece
that
merges
or
collides
with
the
other
building
and
I.
Just
don't
know,
I
think
I
think
it's
it's
generally
I
I
have
the
the
feeling
that
this
is
a
successful
solution
and
I
like
the
building
in
and
of
itself
I'm.
Just
a
little
unsure
with
the
context
and
I
agree
with
commissionable
and
tell
me
is
that
the
the
while
you
know
we
tend
to
sneer
a
little
bit
at
these
60s
sort
of
residential
projects.
J
D
Not
to
mention
about
the
environmental
impact
of
embodied
energy
and
all
that
which
has
already
been
mentioned
so
I
would
just
really
encourage
the
architect
to
like
step
back.
You
know,
take
a
break
from
working
on
it
and
then
look
at
it
and
see
you
know,
do
the
when
you're
writing
your
essay
take
a
couple
days
off
and
then
go
back
to
it
and
see
again
and
see
if
there
aren't
any
any
places
that
you
can
create
a
little
bit
more
Harmony
but
I.
D
20
to
35
percent
is
The
Sweet
Spot
between
sort
of
natural,
daylight,
biophilic
principles
and
Energy
Efficiency
I'm
sure
we're
over
the
35
glazing
here
you
know
you
know,
there's
so
many
reasons
that
glass
is
good,
but
there's
also
so
many
reasons
that
it's
bad,
including
bird
friendly
stuff
but
other
than
that
I
think
that's!
That's
where
I'm
Gonna
Leave
it!
So
thanks
again,
it's
really
exciting
and
I'm
excellent.
Sorry,
one
last
thing
I
do
agree
that
that
little
turnaround
in
the
back
is
really
interesting,
that
back
door.
D
You
know,
usually
again,
you
want
the
front
door
in
the
front,
but
I
think
putting
the
commercial
and
the
more
private
thing
on
the
back.
I
think
that
works
out
nice,
particularly
given
the
context
so
I
think
that's
something
that's
sensitive
to
the
context
and
it
it
draws
attention
to
the
center
want
a
more
private
vein.
D
B
C
Just
just
thinking
more
more
design
of
the
building
for
sustainability
purposes,
you
know.
To
what
extent
did
you
take
in
like
orientation
to
the
sun
in
terms
of
the
design,
as
well
as
the
selection
materials
you
mentioned,
you
know
in
terms
of
glass
and
glazing
and
costs
for
Energy
Efficiency,
but
also
thinking
about
selection
of
materials
for
embedded
carbon
and
kind
of
reducing
the
amount
of
carbon
in
the
materials,
so
that
you've
got
a
good
Strong
building
envelope
that
will
lead
you
very
energy
efficient
before
you
start
talking
about
the
mechanical
systems.
G
We've
been
looking
very
closely
at
the
specifications
on
the
Windows
system
and
ensuring
that
we've
got
a
good,
robust
energy
efficient
window.
Looking
at
the?
U
values,
all
those
things
that
contribute
towards
improved
Energy
Efficiency,
we
are
working
closely
with
an
energy
modeler
on
those
items.
G
A
C
F
H
C
C
L
If
you
could
put
up
slide
17
one
back,
I
guess,
I'm
I'm,
probably
an
audience
of
one
that
is,
is
less
enamored
of
the
change
in
the
facade
from
Eid
Street,
which
is
one
impression
and
and
this
the
rest
of
the
building
which
we're
looking
at
here,
which
I
find
particularly
well
matched
with
the
existing
buildings.
I've
lived
there
for
15
years
and
I've
always
thought
that
Crystal
Towers
was
among
the
best
of
the
old
designs
and
I.
L
Think
this
part,
this
View
at
least
is
very
complementary
and,
and
yet
is
different
enough
in
color
and
style
to
to
really
be
significant,
so
I'm
just
throwing
that
out,
because
it's
only
my
personal
opinion
and
I
have
no
professional
expertise
in
it.
But
I'm
I
find
it
a
little
bit
jarring
the
difference
between
this
view,
which
I
find
very
appealing
and
the
Eid
Street
side
thanks.
A
A
P
P
I
will
be
interested
going
forward
on
the
alignment
with
Community
benefits,
particularly
you
know,
one
of
the
things
that
that
just
everybody
keep
in
mind.
This
is
a
super
block
and
we're
missing
two
streets
through
this
block
for
pedestrians.
That
makes
it
really
hard
to
walk
through
the
area
so
really
interested
in
seeing
how
that
can
be
addressed
as
we
get
into
some
of
the
other
discussions
and
that's
it.
Thank
you.
A
Q
Yes,
the
regarding
the
architecture
there's
a
complete
absence
of
biophilia
on
the
large
buildings,
that's
visible
from
the
ground,
wide
black
walls
between
the
windows.
These
should
have
native
vines
that
hang
up
hang
from
the
or
climb
from
the
roof
or
The
Ledges.
It's
important
and
it's
very
easy
to
do
just
put
them
in
there.
The
second
thing
is
for
the
Landscaping
plan,
which
we
discuss
the
next
meeting.
The
the
submission
does
not
contain
any
information
about
the
species
or
locations
of
the
of
the
plants.
Q
Please
provide
those
with
time
for
so
the
public
can
comment
to
this
next
meeting,
otherwise
we'll
be
before
the
County
Board
about
this.
Also,
you
should
put
it
doesn't.
Look
like
you.
Have
any
fences
around
the
ground
for
the
tree
pits
that
that
means
that
people
will
trample
on
them.
You
have
to
put
fences
around
them
or
Elevate
them.
This
is
an
important
part
of
site
design.
Don't
just
leave
these
so
and
when
you
have
those
sheep,
it's
actually
you
should
plant
these
them
various
things
like
common
milkweed.
Q
You
need
milkweed
there
for
the
monarch,
butterflies,
especially
common
stuffly
sariaka.
So,
as
I
say,
the
big
things
is
make
that
wall
biophilic
have
plant
lines
native
vines
that
will
climb
up
divisible,
make
make
it
look
nice
rather
than
just
a
blank
wall.
There
are
many
of
these
Black
Walls
there
between
the
windows
and
the
other
thing
that
we
really
need.
The
conceptual
lactate
plan
really
should
contain
species
of
plants
and
locations
by
not
doing
that.
You're
really
denying
the
public
the
right
to
to
to
comment
on
this.
A
You
thank
you
Dr
Burns,
and
a
reminder
of
folks
that
next
time
we'll
be,
you
know,
discussing
Community
benefit
Transportation,
open
space
sustainability.
Again,
so
you
know
affordable
housing,
any
of
those
types
of
things
as
well
so
and
as
a
flag
I
see
that
there
is
a
deviation
from
the
sector
plan
open
space
in
your
proposal.
I
think,
basically,
according
to
this
app
report,
so
would
like
put
in
some
greater
detail
on
that
for
us
about
what
those,
what.
A
C
C
But
certainly
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
clarity
in
terms
of
the
overall
amount
of
energy
efficiency
gains
is
and
again
we
want
to
focus
heavily
on
electrification
as
well
as
edu
parking
spaces
if
you're
considering
solar
I'm
taking
some
to
count
those,
but
we
gave
you
kind
of
more
detail.
We
have
a
fairly
detailed
checklist
that
we
can
provide,
try
to
get
that
out
recruit
next
week.
O
How
did
countries
move
anywhere,
how
cyclists
anywhere
from
cars
go
anywhere
exactly
how
the
loading
Works?
How
the
Pluto
I
think
Pluto
is
great
I
said
something
like
obviously
the
message:
I
don't
know
where
to
find
in
the
4.1
that
I
could
easily
read
exactly
what
the
dimensions
are
for
the
clues
or
the
sidewalks
along
idiots,
I,
think
they're,
okay,
probably
on
18th,
but
I
swear
a
lot
of
the
four
people
with
readers.
It
says
berries
which
continue
because.
C
D
I,
don't
have
anything
I
feel
like
we
talked
about
my
area
of
Interest
today,
but
I
Mr
Dowell
brought
up
a
really
good
point.
That
I
was
remiss
in
talking
about,
which
is
the
super
block,
approach
and
I
think
any
pedestrian
cut
through
in
the
dead
end
and
all
that
I
think
is.
We
really
ought
to
revisit
and
think
about
seriously.
B
L
Yeah
I'm
a
long
time
resident
of
Crystal
towers
and
so
I
I
have
a
diff
somewhat
different
perspective.
I
would
first
like
to
compliment
the
direct
folks
who
have
been
very
generous
with
their
time
and
talking
to
me
personally
and
other
residents,
and
that's
that's
worked
out
very
well,
but
for
next
time
I
think
we
do.
L
We
do
need
to
look
carefully
both
at
the
circulation
on
this
on
the
site
and
at
the
amount
of
parking,
temporary
and
short-term
parking,
which
will
be
much
less
than
it
is
now,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
vehicles,
particularly
trucks
and
delivery
and
cable
services
and
things
that
come
and
stay
a
while
and
do
their
business.
So
that's
where
they're
going
to
go
is
going
to
be
an
issue.
L
So
there's
an
awful
lot
going
on
at
that
one
site
and
we're
talking
about
parking,
I
understand
the
number
of
spaces
totally
to
be
reduced,
but
that's
parking
for
1100
units
and
I.
Think
you
know.
If
you
were
building
from
scratch,
you
would.
This
would
not
be
a
desirable
or
safe
way
to
get
in
and
out
of
a
garage.
The
north
exit
is
that's
currently
there,
which
provides
some
relief
is
going
to
be
eliminated.
L
So
I
think
I
think
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
very
carefully,
because
if
someone
has
uses
it
every
day,
it
is
a
real
challenge
already
and
at
the
this
point
the
South
garage
is
only
an
exit,
and
now
it's
going
to
be
an
entrance
and
the
only
exit.
So
please
look
carefully
at
that,
because
what
what
it
looks
like
on
paper
is
not
the
way
it
actually
works
in
real
life.
Thank
you.
L
K
Thanks
analog
of
what
you
really
said
about
appreciate
the
engagement
with
the
community.
Prior
to
this,
it's
I
think
it's
a
lab
filter
to
get
a
good
understanding
of
this
project
and
for
next
time
you
know
looking
forward
to
all
the
good
side
circulation.
For
what
commissioner
said,
there's
a
there's,
a
underground
entrance
right
across
the
street.
So
that's
a
really
important
Crossing,
but
I
I
wanted
to
add
I
I.
A
Yeah
I
think
we're
going
to
plan
to
discuss
that
next
time,
I
think
they're
working
with
staff
to
file
new
new
drawings,
so
Mr
advise
I.
Think
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
part
of
the
the
next
presentation
which
would
walk
through
changes
next
last
time
or
last
time,
and
then
there
would
be
kind
of
new
content
that
we
recover
so
I
think
I.
Think
there'll
be
the
opportunity
to
you.
E
Commissioner,
will
Intel
yeah,
certainly
what
everybody
else
said,
I'm
interested
in
also,
if
for
parking,
we
could
see
where
the
remaining
surface
parking
is
going
to
be,
and
why
we're
keeping
service
parking
the
dead
end
of
The
Pedestrian
passage
I.
Think
we
need
to
explore
that.
That's
more
refer
to
that
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea
if
we
could
get.
It
is
a
rendering
of
the
retail
building
experience
along
that
sidewalk.
E
You
know
the
sidewalk
width,
how
that's
going
to
present,
where
other
adjectives
potentially
can
be.
As
you
divide
up
that
retail
space,
we
haven't
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
that,
because
it's
a
fairly
unit,
pretty
good
building
little
building
there,
but
I'd
like
to
get
a
little
more
feel
for
what
it
what
it
actually
is,
and
that
ties
in
with
that
corner
pot
also.
A
N
Thanks,
thank
you.
Mr
chair
I
took
a
lot
of
good
notes.
I
I
also
texted.
You
in
case
you
were
checking
I
I
was
also
concerned
about
the
super
blocks
and
the
bird
friendly
glass
so
I'm
glad
we're
all
on
the
same
page,
I'm
always
delighted
to
hear
when
the
community
has
had
a
good
experience
with
one
of
our
developers
too.
So
I've
got
a
lot
of
great
notes.
I'll
be
happy
to
make
sure
that
the
issues
that
are
raised
tonight
are
addressed
at
the
subsequent
meetings.
N
F
C
A
A
So
there's
a
lot
of
Focus
right
on
on
the
parking
spaces
which
we
should
and
about
the
you
know
the
capacity
to
in
the
electric
Vault
to
allow
for
that
there.
If
you
do
have
a
little
two
charging
and
you
you
can
use
Smart
charging
to
increase
that
number
of
spaces
that
you
could
provide
charging
to
it's
something.
I
would
encourage
you
to
look
at
it's
not
just
to
try
to
do
that,
so
to
kind
of
stretch,
your
average
and
then
certainly
the
open
space
I
think
I
raised
earlier
I.
Don't.