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Hi,
everyone
welcome
to
the
merch
27
2023
flight
plan
review
committee
subgroup
meeting
for
the
2025
Fairfax
Drive
project.
If
that
is
not
what
you
were
here
for,
please
find
the
checkbook
I
understand.
C2V2
is
on
the
third
one.
We
will
be
holding
a
hybrid
public
meeting
which
enables
electronic
participation
as
legally
authorized
for
the
code
of
Virginia
for
the
Planning
Commission
electronic
meeting
policy,
which
was
adopted
on
July
7th
222.
A
members
of
the
skrc
subgroup.
Four
again,
2025
Fairfax
Drive
our
participating
role
in
here
in
person
and
virtually
via
electronic
options.
Sprc
subgroup
members
participating
virtually
include
this
was
for
a
person
who's.
Your
virtually
we
have
Leo
sarley,
our
sprc
co-chair
is
virtual
James
roll
is
also
virtual.
At
James
we
have
Chris
left
virtual
as
well,
and
James.
Brenton
is
also
virtual.
Did
I
miss
anyone
assigned
to
sbrc
who's
participating,
virtually.
A
Okay,
hearing
nothing
I'm
going
to
assume
my
list
of
virtual
attendees
who
are
assigned
for
the
sgrc
is
at
this
time
like
Orient
everyone
for
a
hybrid
environment
and
cover
a
few
specifics
that
have
time.
A
Skating
will
run
members
of
public
management
meeting
here
in
person
or
electronically,
but
using
the
Microsoft
teams
like
to
buy
it
on
the
sgrc
webpage
project
webpage,
the
County's
events
calendar
and
the
email
notification
sent
to
sprc
email
subscribers
that
options
additionally,
there's
style
and
phone
option
for
those
who
wish
to
use
it
for
about
your
phone
only
for
our
subgroup
members
training
virtually
if
anyone
loses
internet
connectivity.
During
today's
meeting,
please
reconnect
with
us
by
phone.
A
Please
keep
your
phones
and
devices
muted
until
you
are
called
upon
turn
off
sounds
like
the
other
device
around
you
to
minimize
interferences
for
our
virtual
attendees
using
Microsoft
teams.
Please
turn
off
your
video
feed
I
will
address
what
is
appropriate
to
turn
it
on.
In
a
moment,
Microsoft
teams,
Community
chat,
is
asked
to
serve
two
purposes:
spfc
subgroup
members
who
need
technical
assistance.
It
remembers
the
public
to
add
their
names,
Lister
Paula
common,
which
will
be
taken
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
There's
the
only
two
purposes
for
which
the
chat
should
be
used.
A
Team's
chat
should
not
be
used
for
discussion
through
planning
to
provide
public
comment.
We'll
need
to
we'll
still
need
to
do
so
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
as
the
chat
will
not
serve
as
that
opportunity.
All
public
comments
must
be
shared
verbally
for
the
record
for
any
design
public
meeting
of
a
comment
period.
B
A
During
the
course
of
meeting,
please
train
your
video.
Please
turn
on
your
video
feed,
embrace
the
virtual
ending
team.
I'll
monitor
the
video
of
bees
that
are
all
in
this
indicator.
Who
would
like
to
speak
on
a
given
topic?
The
subgroup
members
are
participating
via
phone
today
without
the
video
option.
Please
announce
her
name
and
group.
You
are
sending
now
and
I'll
verbally
check
in
to
see
if
you
wish
to
be
recognized
as
you
do
not
have
the
video
feed
option,
I,
don't
believe
we
have
anyone
on
the
sbrc
who's
participating
by
phone
online.
A
This
will
be
the
time
to
say
something
to
me.
If
that's
not
the
case,
okay
for
members
of
the
public,
who
would
like
to
provide
feedback
and
comment
you'll
be
called
on
to
speak
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
it'll
be
allotted
either
two
or
three
minutes
to
speak
on
tonight's
agenda.
The
speaking
time,
a
lot
will
depend
on
the
number
of
speakers
we
have
this
evening.
A
If
you
wish
to
speak,
please
enter
your
name
in
the
medium
chat
for
virtual
attendees
or
provide
staff
in
your
name
if
in
person
and
you'll
be
added
to
the
speakers.
Lastly,
this
is
the
public
forum.
Today's
meeting
will
be
recorded,
it
is
already
being
important
and
post
on
the
County
website.
All
information
is
through
cm
in
today's
meeting,
whether
written
or
spoken
is
subject
to
the
Freedom
of
Information
Act
requirements.
E
H
Trudy
Koopa
I'm
with
the
chair
of
the
Parks
and
Recreation.
I
Kevin,
lamb,
I'm,
Lizzie
yeah.
I
A
Great
here,
John
Christie,
PhD
hi
and
kid
okay
great.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
introducing
yourselves
yep
online,
just
to
be
honest
here
online
people,
please
introduce
yourselves.
If
you
were
one
of
the
SRC
members
that
I
already
announced
Leo.
Let's
start
with
you.
K
Hi
everyone
I'm
Leo,
sarley,
I'm
co-chairing
this
I
cannot
make
it
tonight,
but
and
Sarah
was
gracious
enough
to
so.
Thank
you
Sarah
for
covering,
for
me,
I
am
also
with
the
Planning
Commission.
A
Anytime
Leo
James,
please.
A
A
N
A
So
we
have
a
a
duel
in
terms
of
top
Towers.
We
have
two
Representatives
I
believe
From
The
Towers
this
evening
your
whole
Lab
is
able
to
you
know
attend.
One
of
you
will
be
the
official
representative
for
this
evening.
It's
him.
Okay,.
A
There
you
go
James.
Thank
you,
we're
glad
you
attend.
We
will
differ
to
you
as
the
official
representative,
then
for
purposes
of
the
sbrcs
attendees
and
sorry
I
apologize
you'll
be
able
to
comment
in
public
comment
if
you'd
like
that.
I
B
I
A
Doing
a
spiritually,
oh
I'm,
sorry
so
you're
I
apologize,
you
did
say
Transportation,
never
mind.
Transportation
is
physically
in
the
building.
Okay.
Moving
on
now
we
can
discuss
the
roster
and
okay
back
to
your
question
on
the
roster.
I
They're,
usually,
you
know
established
Civic
associations
or
condo
boards,
which
I
mean
membership,
whereas
in
terms
of
Bigfoot
manner,
thinking
about
how
best
to
involve
them,
given
the
fact
they
don't
kind
of
have
an
official
structure,
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
reason
why
I
didn't
officially
put
them
on
the
FSC
roster,
but
I've
done
Outreach
with
online
engagement
that
they're
walking
towards
a
lot
of
participation
in
these
running
from
an
equity
perspective
not
having
a
seat
at
the
table.
For
especially,
we
feel
better.
It's
completely
very
low
priced
Apartments.
I
I
I
know
this
is
an
issue
with
sbrcs
in
general,
but
they
typically
don't
have
tenants
represented,
but
I
would
strongly
encourage
both
planning
staff,
as
well
as
Planning
Commission,
to
look
at
ways
to
ensure
that
tenants
actually
have
a
seat
at
the
table
because
they're
going
to
be
impacted
by
what
happens.
A
Thank
you
with
that.
We
are
going
to
go
to.
A
Okay,
I
wasn't
the
best
idea
with
that
I
have
a
small
person
at
home.
Now,
who
constantly
makes
me
sick,
so
my
voice
is
gonna,
go
in
and
out,
that's
just
what
it
is.
Okay,
but
I
appreciate
that
either
way
County
will
present
first
and
then
we
will
have
the
applicant.
Do
a
presentation
as
well
in
public
public
comment
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
A
Will
then
we'll
first
go
through
the
agenda
so
tonight
we
have
for
discussion,
topics
we'll
be
doing
land
use
density
thanks
to
dino,
layout,
Building,
height
form
and
architecture,
open
space,
landscaping
and
public
that'll
be
the
answer
you
can
Encompass
any
and
all
of
those
topics
or
other.
I
Crazy,
thank
you
very
much
so
good
evening.
Everyone
I'm
Kevin
Lam
with
the
planning,
Division
and
tonight
I
will
be
providing
staff's
presentation
on
the
2025
Fairfax
Drive
project.
I
So
this
is
considered
a
major
sideline
Amendment.
Therefore,
throughout
my
presentation,
I
will
be
referring
to
the
originally
approved.
Siteland
was
approved
in
2011..
Just
for
you
know,
comparison
purposes.
I
The
plan
was
adopted
in
2008
and
rose
out
of
concerns
that
new
development
was
eroding
the
Unique
fabric
of
this
community
and,
as
a
result,
the
plan
does
have
several
overarching
goals,
including
the
preservation
of
affordable
housing,
the
neighborhood
character
and
historic
buildings,
preservation
of
trees
and
tree
cover
and
significant
treaties,
and
it
also
calls
for
the
provision
of
public
and
private
open
space,
as
well
as
an
improved
neighborhood,
Edge
and
pedestrian
foreign
Fairfax.
I
So
the
project
is
identified
as
block
AIDS
in
the
plan
as
likely
to
redevelop,
so
it
is
recommended
that
the
three
historic
properties
currently
existing
on
the
site
are
preserved
and
as
part
of
the
original
Cyclone
approval,
the
buildings
were
indeed
preserved
in
exchange
for
a
transfer
of
development
rights
So.
The
plan
notes
that,
given
the
limited
developable
area
on
the
Block
flexibility
with
regards
to
other
plan
accounting
recommendations,
they.
I
So
the
first
topic
for
discussion
tonight
is
land
use
and
density,
so
this
table
compares
the
approved
site
plan
with
the
proposed
amendment,
so
the
proposal
management
consists
of
more
units
for
a
total
of
250
fifths
of
the
site.
This
corresponds
to
an
increase
in
total
density,
which
is
now
at
2.60
far
and
for
cortex.
This
number
refers
to
the
total
density
of
the
entire
site,
inclusive
of
the
existing,
the
courthouse
and
Wheatfield
Manor
properties.
I
Therefore,
the
amount
of
new
density
is
equal
to
1.75,
far
or
approximately
142
000
square
feet.
I
An
upgrade
Terrace
Garden
was
located
in
the
rear
of
the
property
and
slowed
down
towards
the
new
building.
N
I
I
Another
key
component
of
the
plan
are
the
design
guidelines
which
recommends
or
includes
recommendations
related
to
new
development,
new
development
being
inspired
by
phone
Revival
or
Art
Deco
Styles.
They
should
include
appropriate
papers
and
setbacks
compatible
with
the
neighborhood
scale,
and
new
development
should
also
incorporate
step
backs
along
Fairfax
Drive.
That
should
be
at
least
15
feet,
starting
at
the
fourth
floor.
I
I
So
in
both
of
these
instances,
on
the
Fairfax
Drive
side,
there
is
13
and
a
half
foot
separation
between
we're
at
the
podium
level,
followed
by
a
five
foot
step
back
above
the
core.
I
So
this
next
view
is
booking
West,
so
Fairfax
Drive
is
located
here
and
on
Fairfax
Drive.
In
both
cases,
there
is
no
15
foot
step
back
above
the
fourth
floor,
as
recommended
by
the
plan
on
Troy
street
itself.
You
know
the
proof
site
plan
has
a
30
and
a
half
foot
separation,
followed
by
a
five
foot
step
back.
However,.
O
I
Proposed
building
instead
only
has
18
and
a
half
that's
building
the
building
separation,
with
no
high
transitions
down
towards
historic
properties.
I
B
I
Concerns
about
the
new
building
being
cited
too
close
to
the
existing
properties,
especially
on
Troy
they've,
even
DBS,
from
what
was
versioningly
approved,
as
well
as
the
lack
of
a
step
back.
I
And
then
here,
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
illustrate
the
point
a
bit
further
so
for
visual
purposes.
I
did
pull
a
few
examples
of
building
separation
between
recent
new
development
and
garden
style,
apartments
or
Townhomes.
So
this
first
example
here
is
Union
on
Queen,
which
is
also
located
in
the
Fort
Myer
Heights
North
Area.
I
I
This
project
has
a
22
foot
separation
between
new
building
and
the
adjacent
Townhomes.
Also
it
has
a
step
back
of
the
first
floor
and
I
just
wanted
to
note.
This
driveway
with
here
is
all
themed.
I
I
I
These
images
here
show
the
Open
Spaces
currently
at
the
at
the
site,
as
well
as
a
significant
tree
identified
in
the
plan
located
in
the
Southeast
Corner
you're
the
parking
lot.
I
So
this
shows
the
approved
and
proposed
conceptual
landscape
plans,
as
noted
before,
the
main
feature
of
the
approved
plan
is
that
at
Great,
Terrace
Garden
in
the
rear
and
the
proposed
plan
again
shows
the
private
open
space
in
the
same
location.
But
this
time
it
will
be
elevated
with
no
direct
access
to
the
ground
level.
I
So
taking
a
closer
look
at
the
proposed
Courtyard
gets
approximately
2400
square
feet.
It
includes
seating,
there's
some
outdoor
grills
and
planter
beds
in
front
of
this
view.
You
can
kind
of
see
here.
The
courtyard
is
at
least
70
of
the
ground
elevation
on
this
side,
so
kind
of
overall,
especially
compared
to
the
approved
plan
staff.
Our
concerned,
the
proposed
elevated
Courtyard,
is
not
in
10
of
the
plan.
I
So
just
to
conclude
kind
of
where
we
are
in
the
public
review
process.
We
are
having
our
first
aspiracy
meeting
tonight,
followed
by
a
second
one
tentatively
scheduled
for
May
15.,
which
will
cover
these
other
topics
shown
here.
I
So
with
that
happy
to
answer
any
questions
but
first
I'll
hand
it
over.
F
B
F
Fortis
on
this
4.1
site
plan,
amendment
I
think
we're
pretty
excited
to
be
here
tonight.
This
has
been
a
long
time
coming
not
only
for
Fortis
but
just
actually
realize
the
the
some
sort
of
development
on
the
site
in
accordance
with
the
Fort
Myer
Heights
North
plan
policies
and
actually
bring
this
project
to
fruition.
E
O
E
That
and
the
challenges
that
have
been
faced
that
have
prevented
this
project
for
moving
forward
and
gone
into
the
process
of
ice
wide
open.
We
put
together
an
excellent
design
team.
Over
the
last
two
and
a
half
years,
we've
been
working
on
it
and
trying
to
work
through
various
obstacles
that
have
presented
or
prevented
from
moving
forward,
and
we
think
you
come
up
with
some
really
Creative
Solutions
to
try
to
make
this
work
and
finally
bring
it
to
fruition.
E
So
and
we
look
forward
to
working
in
the
community
getting
this
project
over
the
finish
line.
F
So
what
I
thought
we
do?
We
just
kind
of
have
a
sort
of
a
bifurcated
presentation,
I'll.
F
Sites
about
80
000
square
feet,
Bound
by
13th,
Street
to
the
north
out
of
the
courthouse
West
Troy
Street
to
the
east,
Fairfax
Drive
to
the
South
slide.
So
from
a
general
land
use
plan
perspective.
It
is
planned
for
medium
residential.
F
F
Eight,
it's
recommended
as
a
Redevelopment
site
and
what's
interesting
about
this,
is
that
it
plan
group
density
and
targeted
density
on
this
site,
and
you
can
see
these
drawings
from
the
plant
as
a
way
to
help
Finance
the
preservation
of
the
existing
Courthouse
Banner
in
Wakefield
Manor
buildings.
F
So
in
2011
you
have
the
prior
plan
which
we'll
talk
about
in
just
a
second,
but
there
was
a
transfer
of
development
rights
that
was
certified
from
this
property
as
well
about
104
000
square
feet,
and
then
that
density
was
transferred
over
to
the
Wendy's
Landmark
block
across
the
street.
In
2015.
excuse
me
2016.
and
at
that
point
in
time
there
was
a
historic
preservation.
F
's
buildings,
the
Fort
Myer
Heights
North
plan,
calls
for
12
stories
or
125
feet
in
height.
F
There
are
a
series
of
design
guidelines
that
Kevin
mentioned,
such
as
orienting
the
building
towards
Fairfax
Drive,
incorporating
colonial
revival
and
Art
Deco
elements,
Open
Spaces
that
are
responsive
to
passers-by,
and
in
this
case
the
majority
of
passersby
would
be.
You
know
on
Courthouse
Road,
on
a
Fairfax
drivers
and
then
in
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
You
can
see
the
axonometric
image
the
massing
for
this
has
always
sort
of
considered
this
shape
and
height,
which
our
proposal
seeks
to
replicate
and
that's
the
guidance
that
we're
trying
to
meet.
F
So
what
was
approved
back
in
2011
was
a
12-story
building
104
units
about
105
000.
square
feet
of
residential
GFA.
It
included
the
historic
preservation
of
the
existing
buildings
and
the
transfer
of
development
rights.
There
was
about
4
700
square
feet
that
was
dedicated
to
on-site,
affordable
housing.
So.
I
F
Through
a
4.1
site
plan,
you
have
your
base,
affordable,
housing
contribution,
and
then
you
have
a
special
on-site,
affordable,
housing
contribution.
In
this
case
it
was
supported,
700
square
feet
and
in
most
important
site
plans,
there's
bonus
density,
so
there
would
be
an
additional
opportunity
to
get
affordable
housing.
What
they
did
in
2011
was
to
back
into
the
amount
of
density
so
that
there
was
no
bonus
densities.
There
were
no
additional.
F
Above
sort
of
the
base
contribution
amount,
so
that
was
the
extent
of
the
affordable
housing
their.
There
were
a
series
of
problems
with
the
prior
approval.
Fortis
has
gone
through
they've
done
a
series
of
geotechnical
studies,
they've
looked
at
the
topography
at
the
size
of
it
and
I
think.
As
we
mentioned
in
our
initial
video,
there
are
issues
with
significant
Rock
deposits
granted
directly
below
the
site
and
that's
something
you
usually
see
in
Rosalind,
but
you
have
it
here
too,
which
really
makes
excavation
blasting
and
just
Excavating
very,
very
difficult.
F
There
are
a
series
of
utilities
which
run
along
the
Fairfax
Drive
Frontage
that
have
to
be
relocated.
It
is
a
spaghetti,
different,
wet
and
dry
utilities.
F
There
were
issues
with
the
interior
layouts
of
the
proposed
building,
the
exterior
facade
Elements,
which
were
not
environmentally
friendly.
All
of
this
sort
of
contributed,
I
think
or
we
think
of
these
two.
The
building
not
being
financially
feasible
too
next
line.
B
F
Financed
and
actually
constructed
the
building
itself
would
be
166
units
12
stories
just
like
the
prior
one.
There
is
an
increase
in
density
from
105
000
square
feet
to
142
000
square
feet,
and
we
do
seek
to
respond
to
a
lot
of
the
site
constraints
that
we've
done
so
with
that
alternative
to
tie
links
for
walkthrough
the
design
and
masking
facility.
P
Sustainability
we
are
working
under
the
new
Green
Building
incentive
policy,
so
we
will
be
meeting
lead
before
new
construction,
gold
with
20
energy
benefits
and
all
the
other
prerequisites,
including
the
EV
parking,
and
that
you
need
ready
bird
friendly
materials,
biophilia
design
and
and
energy
star.
In
waterson's
appliances
fixtures.
We
will
be
going
for
a
bonus,
far
0.35
with
three
extra
items
which
will
in
our
case
be
the
envelope
commissioning
and
air
leakage,
testing,
building,
Lifestyles,
pet
building
life
cycle
impact
reduction
and
the
procurement
of
off-site
solar,
renewable
energy.
P
Plan
you've
seen
there,
you
go
you've
seen
this
already
in
Kevin's
presentation
and
so
I
will
just.
P
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
done
since
we
first
in
the
upper
right
corner
you'll
see
our
initial
submission
in
talking
to
staff
and
addressing
concerns
that
we've
heard
we
have
added
the
Landscaping
and
Gardens
at
the
Transformer
Vault
lid
area.
We
reconfigured
the
cul-de-sac,
so
it
matches
closer
to
what
was
originally
approved,
adding
landscape
to
open
Green,
Space
train
trees.
P
So
the
this
site
is
really
tight
and
it
was
a
puzzle,
and
so
one
of
the
requirements
that
was
placed
on
our
client
was
the
requirement
to
provide
30
parking
spaces
for
the
residents
of
Wakefield
Manor,
not
the
ones
living
in
the
new
building,
but
the
ones
that
are
already
already
living
in
Waco
manner.
So
we
have
parking
access
off
of
Troy
for
30
parking
spaces
for
Wakefield
Manor
presence,
and
the
reason
we
can
do
this
is
that
there
is
a
huge
amount
of
grade
changes.
You
know
the
neighborhood.
P
It's
there's
a
lot
of
great
change
along
Troy,
it's
very
steep,
so
we
have
one
entrance
on
Troy.
That
is
its
own
level
and
then
we
come
down
to
Fairfax
and
that's
where
we
have
the
entrance
with
another
90
parking
spaces
for
the
residents
of
this
building
and
the
loading
off
of
Fairfax
similar
to
the
previous
approval,
and
we
have
them
in
blue.
You
can
see
that
would
be
the
entrance
to
the
building,
so
you're
really
looking
at
a
composite
plan
here.
P
P
P
The
buildings
at
Wakefield
Manor
were
designed
by
mihana
sarobian.
We
did
a
careful
study
of
the
work
that
he
did,
including
the
Wardman,
Park
and
you've
seen
this
the
buildings
as
they
are
today.
Here's
we
have
do
you
have
one
historic
photo
of
the
Wakefield
Annex,
but
you
can
see
some
of
the
historic
references,
the
curved
balconies
and
and
windows,
the
corner
Windows
the
detailing.
So
we
looked
to
include
those
things
in
our
design.
P
Up
top
right,
you
can
see
the
view
from
13th
Street
over
the
wings.
The
courthouse
Manor
building
towards
the
new
building
and
then
down
at
the
lower
left
is
the
view
from
Courthouse
Road
through
the
Wakefield
Manor
to
the
new
building.
P
This
is
the
view
looking
down
from
the
west
down
50,
where
you
could
see
the
the
new
building
next
to
the
overpass
for
Courthouse
and
the
adjacent
buildings
round,
and
then
these
are
diagram
to
show
you
sort
of
how
we
are
using
these
devices
design
devices
to
reference
the
historic
design
and
the
existing
buildings.
P
P
Here
you
can
see
some
of
the
brick
detailing
on
the
right.
You
can
see
the
historic
references
and
these
are
actually
photos
of
the
existing
buildings
and
on
the
left,
you
can
see
the
brick
detailing
that
we
are
particularly
focusing
at
The
Pedestrian
level,
so
you
could
really
feel
that
sense
of
texture
in
the
brick
as
as
you
walk
down
the
street
and
and
the
real
sense
of
of
quality
and
presence
of
the
building.
P
In
terms
of
the
formal
composition
of
the
building,
we
look.
There's
a
yeah,
the
Serbian
was
was
fairly
traditional
in
the
top
middle
base,
tripartite
division.
So
we've
done
we've
taken
that
and
and
repeated
that
at
a
larger
scale,
while
still
referencing
the
base
across
to
the
the
existing
building.
And
here
you
can
also
see
the
step
back.
So
we
listen
carefully
to
the
concerns
of
Staff
about
the
separation
between
the
buildings.
P
So
there
is
a
a
16
foot
separation
at
the
at
the
Troy
access
when
you're
walking
between
and
then,
as
you
go
up
to
the
next
floor.
There's
a
there's
another
step
back
to
include
increase
that
to
18
6
and
then
it
and
it
continues
to
open
up.
But
you
can
also
see
that
the
the
space
itself
right
is
is
it
opens
to
the
space
above
the
the
windows,
we're
taking
those
same
window,
references
and
where,
in
the
in
a
compatible
location?
P
P
There
is
a
the
mountable
curve
so
that
the
access
to
the
way
the
manner
is
still
available,
and
then
this
is
the
path
that
takes
you
to
the
the
the
depth
of
seating
that
we
have
in
the
back,
and
this
new
significant
tree
that
we
are
are
planting
at
the
back
of
the
building
sort
of
in
this.
This
communal
space
for
Wakefield
Manor
and
the
residence
in.
P
These
at
the
separation
of
the
buildings,
we
wanted
to
be
make
sure
that
you
understand
that
there
is
only
this
49
feet
of
distance,
where
we
have
the
most
compression
in
that
space
between
the
buildings
and
then
it
opens.
O
P
So
that,
in
the
end,
the
the
average
separation
is
about
49
feet,
we
have
one
space
where
it's
very
compressed
and
then
it
immediately
opens
up
to
a
much
larger
space.
P
Here
you
can
see
some
of
the
biophilic
design
for
the
courtyard
in
the
back.
The
the
natural.
P
P
You
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
the
parking
garage
that
is
dedicated
to
the
Wakefield
Manor
West.
So
you
enter
on
Troy.
But
there
is
an
access
to
this
from
from
adjacent
to
this
deaf
seating
and
the
circle.
So.
P
Right,
so
there
is
there's
an
entrance
at
the
bottom
of
the
curb
area.
There
grab
right
there
right
that
that
is
a
pedestrian
entrance
into
the
parking
garage
and
then
these
are.
There
are
paths
on
either
side
that
connect
and
create
that
Urban
Edge
to
the
existing
Garden
Apartments.
P
And
here
you
can
see
the
the
way
we
are
dealing
with
the
Vault
covers
that
on
the
right
are
the
examples
of
the
coins
and
then
in
the
Landscaping
on
Native
and
adaptive
plants,
butterfly
garden
planting
in
this
in
this
area
in
front
of
the
existing
Wakefield
manner.
P
Here
you
can
see
from
the
Wakefield
Manor
pathway
that
we
showed
you
earlier
this
approach
to
the
new
building
the
specimen
tree
with
seeding
around
it
and
the
stepped
seating
which
really
creates
a
kind
of
a
front
porch,
so
that
this
is
a
place
where
neighbors
can
sit,
meet
greet
and
then
and
then
over
to
the
right.
Is
the
access
to
the
oops
go
back?
That's
the
next
one,
but
that's
that
that's
that
interesting.
F
P
Or
down
they're
just
right
there,
and
so
these
are
the
elevations
of
the
view
from
between
the
buildings
right
so
from
the
on
the
top
elevation
is
the
view
of
the
north
facade,
so
you're
standing
in
between
Wakefield
Manor,
looking
South,
and
so
this
is
where
you
can
see
the
the
steps,
seating,
the
the
green
wall
and
the
plantings
and
the
plantings
on
the
Terrace
itself.
So
this
transition
down
to
the
neighborhood
and
down
on
the
the
lower
one
is
takes
you
from
that.
P
You
can
see
the
red
door,
red
and
white
door
is
the
parking
garage
entrance
and
that
goes
downhill
to
our
fear,
fixed
and
then
here
we
are
again
you
in
the
back
with
this
this
focal
point
with
this
with
the
tree
specimen
tree
and
with
the
seating.
P
This
is
really
an
important
place
for
the
inter
interlocking
I.
Don't
know.
A
No
problem
so
at
this
point
is
clarifying
questions
which
is
Big
questions
where
you're
seeking
clarification
on
something
that
was
in
either
presentation
and
then
we'll
move
into
the
rest
of
the
agenda,
which
is
helpful.
I
I
will
take
chairs
privilege
and
that's
the
first
clarifying
question.
Can
you
go
back
to
the
slides
that
showed
that
the
overhead
roadside
view
of
sort
of
the
space
between
the
two
buildings.
A
Yes,
the
where
it
is
narrowest
community
buildings.
How
long
is
it
that
narrow,
pretty.
P
Those
those
the
closest
areas
are
only
19
feet
wide.
Okay
and
those
are
similar
to
the
previous
design
and
then
there's
13
6
to
the
lower
part
of
the
podium,
and
then
it
opens
up
also
steps
back.
Okay,.
A
H
Yes,
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
are
any
additional
resident,
only
amenities
that
you
guys
are
interested
in
sharing
with
us
at
this
point,
namely
Outdoor
Dog
space
or
a
dog
run
area.
Maybe
four
residents
that
you
guys
are
considering
or
interested
in
Sharing.
At
this
point.
E
H
C
C
I
Yes,
how
many
parking
spots
are
currently
in
the
lot?
That's
going
to
be.
F
A
I
There's
not
enough
spots
for
all
the
current
residents.
So
if
you
come
home
too
late,
you
have
to
have
to
a
mile
away
or
something
so
they're
yeah,
there's
not
apparently
enough
spots
forever.
G
I
I
I
heard
three
three
elements.
You
mentioned
the
reasons
why,
indeed,
this
new
site
plans
one
was
because
there
were
significant
deposits
and
another
one.
You
had
a
lot
of
utilities
to
be
moved
and
I,
don't
know
what
the
third
one
was.
E
E
From
Material
design
standpoint,
so
we
need
to
add
efficiency
to
the
building
design
and
additional
more
square
footage
and
units
one,
and
then
you
know
that's
a
primary,
it's
so
other
than
the
rock
the
grade.
E
G
Like
just
saying
what
the
other
site
wasn't
designed,
big
enough
to
be
buildable
on.
F
Financial
basis,
exactly
yeah,
well,
and
so,
and
also
so
I've
got
my
list
here,
which
I
can
go
through
speak
to
some
of
this
too.
But
as
far
as
the
parking
goes,
there
were
189
parking
spaces
with
that
which
required
extensive,
excavation
and
geotechnical
work,
and
there
was
also
an
angular
shape
and
that
had
I
think
led
to
an
inefficient
core.
As
far
as
where
the
elevates
were
there.
B
Were
no
squared
off
rooms.
F
F
That
were
chosen
in
terms
of
continuous
insulation,
airtight
construction,
high
performance
Windows.
Those
things
were
not
they
provided
for
I'm,
trying
to
see
as
well
I
think
that
that
was
pretty
much
it,
but
I
mean
you
all
did
months
of
geotechnical
studies,
there's
also.
J
B
B
F
Working
from
home
those
types
of
things
that
was
one
need
for
short-term
delivery,
drop-offs
Uber's,
which
we
could
talk
about
in
the
next
sprc
meeting
package.
Storage.
That's
another
item
that
you
could
put
up:
bicycle
storage,
which
was
not
a
prevalent
back
in
2011
as
far
as
where
the
County's
policies
were
and
then
again
the
parking
for
the
existing
residents
Department
spaces,
that's
something
that
was
not
guaranteed
under
the
last
site
plan.
E
R
R
F
So
for
those
that
are
at
home
on
the
screen
just
to
clarify,
so
this
is
North
Troy
Street
see
where
the
arrow
is
the
right
and
then
there's
a
red
arrow
that
goes
into
the
upper
level
of
the
parking.
So
that
is
at
grade
pretty
much
at
grade
with
the
pathway
and
where
you
know
the
sort
of
the
exterior
where
the
tree
is
and
everything
like
that
and
then
there's
a
direct
line.
You
know
just
for
convenience
on
that
level,
for
people
to
exit
directly
right
by
right
by
the
tree
and.
P
F
P
R
For
the
existing
process,
okay
and
and
bicycle
parking
on
G2
and
cheap,
that's
only
going
to
be
for
the
new
presidents
right,
yes,
they're
not
going
to
have.
A
Okay
is
your
hair,
we're
gonna
go
into
the
table
and
then
James
roll
and
I'd
like
to
wrap
up
our
fine
questions.
At
that
point,.
A
Okay,
James
troll
you're
up.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
to
kind
of
pick
up
on
one
of
the
previous
speakers.
F
Mr
schroll
that's
correct
and
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
providing
a
lobby
area
a
ramping
system
that
would
be
required
to
get
up
and
down.
L
S,
okay,
inefficient,
is
sort
of
what
I'm
hearing
yes
right,
yes,
okay
and
then,
regarding
the
bike.
Storage.
Has
the
applicant
looked
at
bike
storage
at
grade
without
having
to
go
into
the
parking
garage.
P
It's
all
it's
all
internal,
so
it's
still
in
the
parking
garage.
L
So
that's
in
the
garage,
so
so
the
applicant
hasn't
looked
at,
putting
it
accessible
from
the
lobby
or
without
having
to
go
into
the
garage.
But.
P
B
P
A
puzzle-
and
it
didn't
go-
be
made
accommodations
for
that
on
the
globe.
A
I
S
F
Base,
affordable
housing,
computation
that
gives
an
applicant
the
ability
to
do
a
contribution
they
have
or
do
on-site
units
or
near
off-site
units,
so
that'll
be
just
a
standard
site
playing
condition
that
will
be
at
the
election
of
the
second
level
is
the
as
far
as
that.
20
of
the
gross
blur
area
above
the
general
land
use
plan.
Maximum
of
1.6
far
be.
F
To
on-site
of
affordable,
so
in
the
prior
plan
that
was
approved
back
in
29
th,
they
had
4
700
square
feet
that
they,
you
know,
based
on
that
calculation,
that
they
had
to
provide
for
on-site
units.
25
of
that
was
included
in
the
existing
Wakefield
manner
buildings
like
historic
buildings.
They
were
going
to
designate.
You
know,
however,
many
units
as
committed
affordable
units
at
75
percent
of
that
4
700
square
feet
would
be
provided.
F
B
F
The
same
as
far
as
the
amount
that
we
that
was
second
tier
okay,
so
you've
got
the
base,
and
that
again
is
the
the
app
you
know
check.
Do
you
know
whatever
in
that?
Second
tier
is
that
20
above
the
glove
maximum
or
minimum
maximum
of
1.65
FDR
and.
B
F
There
is
a
question
about
the
bonus
density,
so
we
are
requesting
about
24,
000
square
feet
of
bonus
density
and
we
have
everybody
on
a
peripheral
foot
base
for
that
that
bonus
density,
a
certain
percentage
of
that
bonus
density.
You
know
the
value
of
that.
We
would
be
rolling
into
one
side
affordable
somewhere
on
the
property
that
would
be
subject
negotiation.
E
A
Okay,
let's
get
into
the
meeting
with
them.
First
up
is
land
use
and
density.
A
R
R
Not
for
this
zoning
picture,
okay.
A
A
I
mean
oh
sorry,
hi
Leo,
hi,
Dad,
hello,.
K
Hi
Leah
sarley
with
the
Planning
Commission
again
I
was
just
looking
at
the
talking
about
density
and
I
was
taking
a
look
at
the
at
the
units
with
bedroom
counts
and
it's
I
don't
see
a
single
three
bedroom
unit.
Is
that
correct?
K
O
F
Are
17
and
a
half
percent
of
the
total
number
Junior
one
bedrooms
and
one
bedrooms
are
47
of
the
total
and
then
two
bedrooms
and
two
bedroom
bins
are
18
percent,
so
I'm.
C
E
B
E
I
mean
working
on
Market,
study
on
site
and
kind
of
get
recommendations
and
I
will
say
that
for
the
two
bedroom
and
dens
that
we
have,
you
know
we'll
we'll
probably
end
up
once
we
get
further
design.
E
Right
now,
this
is
where
we
think
the
market
is
today,
but
I
wouldn't
say
that
we
rolled
out
like.
A
E
E
A
junior
you
know
it's
like
it's
it's
more
than
a
studio
and
less
than
a.
A
I
Yeah
I
have
a
question
so
I
know
staff
had
said
as
part
of
the
engagement
process.
They
talked
to
residents
at
30..
Can
you
provide
more
information
about
what
current
residents
have
said
about
the
proposed
development
and
their
kind
of
thoughts
on
it?
Yeah
I
think
we
heard
a
lot
through
the
online
engagement
process.
Where
we
received
hundreds
of
responses.
I
I
That
is
posted
online
and
we
have
a
kind
of
a
frequently
asked
questions
section
where
we
can
have
summarize
at
the
responses
for
topic,
then
we
also
have
staff
and
Advocate
responses.
That
is
generally
we've
heard
a
variety
of
responses
from
tenants
to
actually
go
backing.
Okay,
sift
through
the
data
there,
but
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
specifically
General
sentiments
are
what
are
the
major
concerns
that
people
have
or
are
people
generally
supportive,
like
I?
I
Yeah
I
think
you
know.
One
kind
of
major
topic
that
comes
to
mind
is
the
arcade,
which
was
kind
of
localized
by
people
who
attended
to
walk
into
ourselves.
I
think
you
have
it
for
that,
where
you
know
the
30
spaces
doesn't
necessarily
work
replace.
You
know
the
five
spaces
there
currently
and
as
you've
experienced
fairies
have
high
occupancy
rate
left
of
spaces,
so
that
definitely
connects
out.
F
There
was
also
an
issue
too,
with
building
constructability
and
how
it
was
going
to
affect
the
historic
buildings
from
just
a
foundational
perspective,
Excavating
the
length
of
time
period
that
it
was
going
to
take
to
construct
the
buildings.
Those
types
of
things
I
would
say
that
the
residents
that
were
there
I
think
there
were
probably
about
six
residents
that
came
to
the
walkthrough,
which
was
a
I.
Don't
know,
I,
think
that
was
I
mean.
F
But
I
would
say
that
I
mean
other
issues
were
raised,
I
don't
know
if
there
was
a
sentiment,
one
or
the
other,
but
the
parking
was
definitely
the
biggest
issue
and
and
then
also
just
building
the
time
frame.
A
A
That
I
thought
it
has
its
own
topic
or
an
sprc
agenda,
usually
at
meeting
two
I,
don't
see
that
as
I
called
out
separate
topic,
we're
reading
two
so
I'd
like
to
make
sure
we
have
that
as
it's
on
topic
for
meeting
two
consistent
with
how
we
typically
handle
sprcs,
and
that
was
something
that
residents
in
or
did
call
upon
it
honestly
I
think
the
logistics
you
know
having
happy
and
ongoing
presidents
continuing
to
live
in
Houston's
buildings,
while
their
construction
was
happening.
F
I'm
sure
there
was
also
one
other
item,
which
was
the
trash
collection,
yeah
yeah,
so
I
mean,
like
you
know.
If
there
was
a
building
you
know
with
the
trash
is
right
now
it's
right
on
the
Northern
edge
of
where
this
building
is
are
they
gonna
have
to
truck
it
all
the
way
up,
the
hill
and
stuff
like
that,
so
we've
been
working
to
try
to
find
a
way
around
that
throughout
that
we
have
a
solution.
There.
I
I
Yeah
they
took
away
what
used
to
be
the
street
and
so
for
deliveries
or
even
just
telling
people
your
address.
It's
really
complicated
if
you
live
on
North
Courthouse
Road
at
the
bottom,
because
no
one
can
stop
there,
and
so
everyone
has
to
go
around
to
North
Fairfax,
which
is
going
to
be
very
complicated
when
everything's
under
construction.
Because
then
it's
like
how
do
people
get
into
my
homework
for
living
there
and
I
think
just
especially
I
know.
I
You
guys
mentioned
that
the
thought
of
deliveries
and
things
like
that,
but
also
thinking
for
the
people
who
they
have
to
rely
on
North
Fairfax
Drive,
currently
to
our
Fairfax
Drive
for
all
of
that,
because
they
don't
have
North
Courthouse
and
same
thing
for
like
uber
lives.
Stuff
like
that
that
a
lot
of
those
residents
are
dependent
on
that
street
or
you
know
all
those
types
of
services.
A
Okay,
are
we
ready
to
move
on
to
the
next
topic,
which
is
lifeline
and
layout,
getting
some
consensus
on
that
okay
site
designed
and
layout
science
and
layout
topic,
I
thought
Leo?
Did
you
come
for
the
one
oh
James,
so
James
stay
away.
L
Yeah,
so,
with
regard
to
The,
partially
above
grade
parking
garage,
the
portion
that's
on
North
Troy.
L
How
are
we
making
sure
that
that
facade
is
in
that
portion
of
the
building
is
sort
of
a
safe
pedestrian
experience?
Can
you
talk
through
how
you're
lighting
that
space,
the
kind
of
portion
beyond
the
lobby?
L
Also,
as
you're
pulling
it
up
well,
it'd
probably
be
easier
to
just
talk
through
kind
of
as
you're
walking
down
the
the
building
from
the
other
entrance.
So
they.
L
L
All
right,
where
would
be
a
good
slide.
L
This
this
is
fine,
so
you're
just
wondering
sort
of
what
you're
doing
here
to
kind
of
have
eyes
on
the
street.
What
you're
doing
here
to
have
make
this
a
safe
pedestrian
experience
for
people
kind
of
walking
through
here
since,
what's
behind
us,
is
parking
correct!
No.
P
Big
part
of
this
that
the
parking
entrance
we're
up
near
the
Troy
access,
that's
the
that's
the
entrance,
the
rest
of
it
is
open
to
the
lobby
and
there's
a
two-story
Lobby,
and
so
so
that
is
definitely
lit
for
both
insight
and
on
the
street.
So
that
would
definitely
be
eyes
on
the
street.
That
is
not
parking
garage
open.
You
can't
see
the
into
the
parking
garage
from
Troy.
A
L
Yeah
Madam,
chair
I,
mean
I
would
also
suggest
if
we're
talking
about
some
of
this
better,
better
plan
view
slides,
would
be
helpful.
There's
some
better
stuff
in
what
you've
submitted.
I.
Think
that
convey
more
detail
than
the
slides
that
you
walk
through
this
evening,
but
I
appreciate
it
and
it's
helpful.
P
A
G
The
moment
yeah,
one
of
the
things
I
was
on
the
holog
when
we
approved
this.
G
The
biggest
things
of
other
site
plan
was
to
me
the
way
it
complemented
the
current
structures.
There
I
mean
it.
It
looks
like
a
modern
building,
but
it
really
reflects
the
structures
of
one
of
the
ways
that
the
previous
Architects,
or
maybe
even
guys,
I,
don't
know
did
that
was
with
the
roof
line,
and
you
kind
of
abandoned
that
roofline
and
I
wonder
if
you
gave
any
thought
to
keeping
that
element
or,
if
that's
just
a
non-starter,
to.
P
So
we've
made
an
occupied
roof
so
made
the
views
and
the
views
from
the
topic
building
which
are
going
to
be
amazing,
accessible
both
to
people
to
live
up
there
and
for
a
residence
amenity
Up
on
the
Roof
that
has
both
an
exterior
and
interior
space
space,
so
so
as
opposed
to
having
a
cupola
that
is
really
rather
restricted
in
its
ability
for
somebody
to
occupy
in
the
building.
We've
really
expanded
that
made
it
much
more
democratic
views
and
and
look
downtown.
So
it's
really
about
changing
the
experience
of
the
insight
s
and.
P
F
And
when
we,
when
we
originally
submitted
when
we
submitted
our
plans,
I
think
it
was
a
lot
more
Spartan
of
a
structure.
We.
J
L
B
F
Is
the
predominant
you
know,
Building
Material.
P
I
I
Like
kind
of
roughly
the
same,
my
other
question,
I
guess
common
was
around
the
the
Terrace
space.
I
It
definitely
does
seem
like
you
know,
I
mean
it's
nice
if
there's
a
tree
there,
especially
because
that
big
old,
beautiful
trees
being
you
know,
Turned
down
at
the
site
because
you
can
have
to
but
the
fact
that
the
grills
and
all
those
other
amenities
are
going
to
be
closed
off
and
like
nope,
that's
higher
up
than
you
and
the
market
rate
affordable.
You
guys
just
don't
have
any
of
those
amenities,
because
none
of
them
exists
on
the
site.
I
I
I
think
there
was
a
suggestion
of
if
you
do
kind
of
one
walkway
going
up
and
you
can
still
have
sort
of
that
Terrace,
but
at
least
a
way
to
access
it
from
the
outside.
Just
so
that
it's
not
so.
You
know
it
literally
you're
below
us
when
you're
outside.
A
I
will
second
that
comment.
Thank
you
for
making
it
actually
I'm
going
to
recognize.
Leo
I
was
how
to
stand
up
virtually
and
then
I'll
come
up
with
you
yeah.
Take
it
away.
K
Great
I'll
associate
myself
with
the
notion
of
the
height
of
the
patio
and
the
sort
of
hoi
polloi
of
the
sidewalk.
Also
I
think
you
know
I
understand
that
there's
a
garage
under
there,
but
the
lower
that
you
can
get
that
the
better
just
for
the
sight
line
aspect
and
also
to
Echo.
Commissioner
trolls
comment
on
the
Troy
Street
I'm,
still
a
little
unsure
as
to
that
corner
entrance.
There
is
this
sort
of
asymmetry
to
the
corner
entrance,
which
is
a
a
departure
from
the
precedent
architecture
around
you.
K
If
you
look
at
the
existing
historic
structures,
all
their
entrances
are
at
the
center
and
the
corners
are
solid,
except
for
the
very
deliberate
you
know:
Corner
windows,
with
the
little
green
posts,
and
so
by
putting
the
entrance
at
the
corner,
you're
sort
of
departing
you're,
creating
a
new
precedent
which
is
fine,
I
think
it
just
has
this
weird
asymmetry
with
that
rounded
Edge?
It's
where
the
balcony
is
rounded
on
one
side
and
it
feels
like
it's
missing
the
other
half.
K
I
think
needs
to
be
addressed
or
looked
at
it's
a
little
bit
weak
right
now,
I
think
I
also
want
to
Echo
staff's
comment
about.
You
know
less
is
more
in
a
way.
I.
Think
a
lot
of
the
brick
detailing
is
sort
of
interesting
and
good
to
sort
of
pick
up
on,
but
you
know
careful
of
what
your
wish
for
on
that
one.
K
You
know
it
sort
of
smacks
a
little
bit
of
that
sort
of
you
know
knockoff
imitation
thing,
so
you
have
to
be
careful
that
the
details,
reference
things,
but
don't
you
know
pick
up
on
too
literally
so
just
be
concerned,
so
I
I
just
really
want
to
Echo
staff's
comment
on
that,
but
I
think
my
biggest
difficulty
with
this
building
right
now,
architecturally
speaking,
is
that
corner
entrance
and
sort
of
How
It's
not
clearly
defined
right.
You
almost
need
a
sign
and
and
and
sort
of
my
architectural
practice.
K
We
try
to
approach
it
that
if
you
have
to
put
a
sign,
the
design
hasn't
fully
carried
its
weight
right.
If
you
can
do
it
without
a
sign
and
I
think,
a
corner
entrance
should
be
doable
without
a
sign.
I
think
it's
something
you
want
to
revisit
and
I,
particularly
don't
like
the
balconies,
the
asymmetrical
balconies
I
think
you
can
have
balconies
on
the
corner,
but
you
really
need
to
wrap
that
corner
in
a
way.
That's
symmetrical,
both
from
a
historical
precedent
and
I
think
from
a
significance
of
the
entrance
of
the
building
thanks.
R
So
I
mean
I
mean
it
just
seems
like
that.
A
lot
of
this,
a
lot
of
the
issues
are
arising
from
this
small
site
and
then
the
constraints
on
how
much
square
footage
you
can
put
on
it,
and
that's
why
you
know,
despite
having
this
historical
designation,
it
was,
you
know,
frankly,
kind
of
generic
like
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
Arlington
buildings,
something
that's
up
to
the
the
way.
R
The
way
the
way
the
regulations
are
I
was
wondering,
but
that
would
allow
a
way
for
Troy
Street,
given
that
there
is
this
requirement
of
the
kind
of
relate
that
the
garden
space,
whether
it
could
be
something
more
than
just
like
what
it
is
now
an
Alleyway
that
you
walk
through,
like
at
least
have
like
a
like.
Maybe
a
bench
running
along
it.
You
know
like
some
type
of
issue
where
people
could
sit,
maybe
waiting
for
an
Uber,
not
something
that
they
just
like
a
dark
space.
R
They
kind
of
run
through
in
the
in
those
49
feet
that
are
that
are
really
kind
of
narrow,
so
maybe
something
to
consider
to
activate
that
space,
make
it
more
of
a
destination
to
the
extent
that
it's
possible
and
in
accordance
with
the
whole
garden
garden
unit.
The
historical
aspect
of
it,
because
right
now,
it's
kind
of
looking
like
like
a
new
development
at
Rosalind,
which
is
like
fine
for
essential
business
district.
And
what
was
the
context
there
on,
and
it
doesn't
relate
to
the
consistent
context
here.
G
I,
don't
really
see
the
garden
department
of
element
gear
which
is
supposed
to
be
part
of
the
Fort
Myer
Heights
plan,
and
if
you
had
asked
me
what
building
this
is
supposed
to
look
I
know
where
it
looked
like
I
would
never
choose
the
buildings
next
door.
It
looks
like
another
building
in
Boston
robots
on
Wilson,
Boulevard
I.
Don't
read
these
like
you
know,
but
over
speak.
G
C
C
A
Thank
you,
Mr
Brinson,
James
Brenton,
as
I
am.
N
Yeah
I
I
just
had
another
thought
about
the
the
courtyard
space.
Is
there
any
sort
of
guidance
from
either
the
county
like
if
we're
going
for
garden
style
or
having
this
openness?
Is
that
enough
space
for
that
many
units
and
that
many
people,
it
kind
of,
seems
like
it's?
It's
not
I
mean
it's
echoing
what
the
people
just
said
before
me,
where
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
units
for
that
little
garden.
Space
yeah.
I
So,
in
terms
of
for
my
highest
North
plan,
it
doesn't
specify
you
know
how
big
a
space
should
be
Forest
residents,
but
at
the
same
time
you
know,
plan
itself
is
trying
to
preserve.
You
know
Garden
style,
aesthetic
of
oasis,
that
anyone
can
interact
with
so
so
there
is
guidance
in
that
aspect.
Okay,.
N
My
my
next
question
is
on
slide
26..
This
may
be
a
small
detail,
but
I
find
it
very
important.
I
I'm
married
to
an
arborist,
so
I
see
and
hear
a
lot
about
this.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
just
an
artistic
rent
rendering
but
or
what
type
of
trees
those
might
be.
But
do
you
know
is:
is
there
an
arborist
consult
that
will
be
making
sure
that
those
trees
aren't
going
to
grow
too
huge
they're
really
crammed
in
there
and
those
trees?
N
E
F
If
I
may
also
say
to
just.
B
F
F
F
Area
the
section
that
we
were
talking
about
that's
just
opened
to
Residence
is
approximately
2
400
square
feet
when.
S
E
M
No
I
think
Andrew
I
think
you
summoned
it
up.
Well,
just
to
answer
more
specifically
at
the
question.
We
do
have
a
certified
Arborist
on
staff
who
has
visited
the
site,
he's
conducted
the
inventory
and
then
I
am
a
landscape
architect,
and
we
have.
M
We
will
certainly
be
selecting
plant
materials
that
will
be
appropriate
and
will
be
at
to
your
point,
not
too
crowded,
but
gives
as
much
canopy
as
possible
as
you've
heard
many
people
say
it's
quite
a
constrained
site,
so
we're
doing
what
we
can
with
the
plantable
area
that
we've
got
but
I
think
we've
we've
as
Matt
or
as
Andrew
mentioned,
we're
planting
a
couple
more
trees
than
the
previous
application
where
we
can
and
maximizing
available
space
and
though
the
renderings
may
look,
you
know
a
little
bit
artistic
license.
I
think.
M
Certainly
the
end
result
will
be
a
plan
that
is
very
sustainable
while
meeting
the
the
canopy
goals
in
the
county.
Thank.
F
You
in
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
this
slide
to
be
brought
up,
one
of
the
things
that
staff
really
pushed
us
on
the
prior
approval.
There's
two
electric
faults:
you
know
right
along
Fairfax,
Drive
at
the
southern
end
of
the
site
that
will
propose
with
the
prior
plan:
that's
where
they
that's
the
only
place
they
can
go
and
there
was
no
ornamentation
or
an
embellishment
associated
with
those
at
all
and
staff
really
pushed
us
to
try
to
find
a
way
to
make
those
areas
workable
and
usable,
and
you.
F
Be
you
know,
welcoming
and
dignified
for
people
that
are
visiting,
so
what
we've
done,
if
you
take.
B
F
I
As
well
sort
of
on
the
phone
space,
so
there's
also
that's
someone's
front
door
right
there
too.
So
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
other
people
using
that
space,
because
it's
even
though
technically
it's
open
to
everyone
like
it'll,
probably
seem
like
that
renter's
space,
because
it's
right
in
front
of
their
unit
and
they're
one
of
the
few
that
has
an
exterior
like
entrance
just
for
their
unit.
But.
B
I
Curious
I
don't
know
who
owns
the
space
right
behind
the
cul-de-sac,
if
that's
the
county
or
VDOT,
or
so
can't
that
be
turned
into
like
some
benches
or
kind
of
make
that
more
Park
like
right
now,
there's
nothing
there
and
it's
such
a
waste
of
space
can
that
be
turned
into
some
like
an
amenity
for
these
residents
to,
like
you,
know
at
least
sit
under
some
trees.
I
It
just
seems
like
that
space
would
be
another
area
to
find.
You
know
some
like,
let's
plan
more
than
a
couple
trees
and
let's
put
some
benches
down
or
I,
don't
know
something
to
really
use
all
the
space
around
it
so
that
you
know
it's
a
bit
more
Park
like
than
just.
P
A
Yeah,
following
up
on
that,
I
think
that
I
understand
that
that
may
limit
free
and
that
sort
of
landscaping,
a
traditional
movies
tree
based
landscape
approach
to
that.
But
I,
don't
think
that
that
means
we
can't
think
creatively
about
how
to
make
that
anymore,
inviting
space
and
I'm
not
personally
persuaded
that
utility
spaghetti
is
a
reason
for
that
area
to
not
be
improved
in
a
meaningful
way
to
be
more
usable
to
everyone
on
the
area.
So,
let's
put
some
thinking
that's
on
on
what
we
can
do.
C
C
Yes,
his
jurisdiction
over
that,
because
of
what
space
that
impression
about
how
to
be
done,
we're
doing
that
in
Clarity,
it'll
be
the
Urban
Street,
which
is
going
to
be
Apartments.
They
began
to
that's
checking
Department
here,
so
you
know,
there's
lots
of
opportunity
here
for
something
that
I
understand
what
you
can't
necessarily
put
a
big
tree.
There
there's
lots
of
pushing
its
hedges
plantings.
Are
you
going
to
be
there?
Certainly
benches
can
work
there.
C
Maybe
that
could
be
the
dog
space.
You
know,
there's
there's
lots
of
it's.
It's
a
nice
amount
of
space,
not
in
it's,
not
a
tiny
piece
of
property
and
just
throwing
some
grass
and
gravel
wanted
is
not
the
answer.
It's
not
good
for
building
or
building
it's
not
a
presence
there.
It
just
says
all
the
wrong
things
about
him.
So,
especially.
F
M
Right
I
would
love
to
show
that
I'm
working
from
home,
so
I
don't
have
access
to
that
particular
graphic,
but
the
entirety
of
the
green
space
at
the
end
of
a
cul-de-sac
north
of
the
trail
is
owned
by
the
county.
Vdot
owns
just
so
a
couple
of
feet,
north
of
the
trail
page
South
they
own
the
rest
of
that.
So
the
green
space.
That
in
question
is
owned
by
the
county.
So
we
would
be
working
with
County
staff
to
try
to
understand
what
could
be
done
in
that
location.
F
C
A
We're
gonna
be
prepared
for
next
yeah
and
I
endorse
that
I
think
that
we
should
think
creatively
about
what
we
do
that
beneficial
and
if
it
comes
down
to
me
that
because
well,
that's
the
name.
Jennifer
okay,
yeah
I
want
to
associate.
O
O
R
R
G
F
M
That's
correct,
so
we
have
the
offer.
We
have
a
little
bit
of
opportunity
to
plant
within
the
area
owned
by
the
county
between
the
trail
and
the
sidewalks.
So
if
you're
on
the
Fairfax
Drive
side,
there
will
be
a
more
of
a
planted
buffer
between
you
and
the
trail.
What
south
of
the
trail
is
entirely
owned
by
VDOT
and
I'm
sure
that
the
county
there
is
a
plan
sort
of
a
long-term
plan,
a
foot
for
Fairfax
Drive
alignment,
as
well
as
the
trail
and
I'm
sure.
M
The
county
staff
is
working
with
VDOT
on
whatever
that.
However,
that
might
shake
out,
but
we
have
certainly
not
seen
any
of
those
plans,
but.
A
Yes,
oh
I
also
just
want
to
say
we
kind
of
segued
a
bit
into
what
will
be
the
next
topic,
which
is
building
department
architecture.
So
at
this
point,
I
view
us
and
honestly
open
space
and
escaping
so
I'm
going
to
know
if
us
ing
the
control
period
so
we're
on
all
of
those
topics
as
it
were
so,
but
yeah
I
recognize
you
thank.
I
You
question
so
currently:
there's
free
on-street
parking,
I,
assume
that's
all
going
away
with
this
development,
or
is
that
not
the
case.
P
I,
it's
also
a
just
a
question,
but
we
aren't.
B
M
Yeah
mathematically
about
eight
spaces,
depending
you
know,
just
from
a
linear
footage
standpoint.
As
you
know,
the
parking
spaces
are
no
longer
striped,
it's
just
whatever
you
can
fit
in
so
perhaps
eight
small
cars,
six
Suburbans,
that
kind
of
thing,
so
there
would
be
parking
maintained
on
the
South
Side
at
least
a
little
bit.
B
I
Away
so
for
existing
residents,
they
are
losing
a
lot
of
parking
because
of
this
I'm,
not
necessarily
saying
that's
a
bad
thing
that
is
going
to
impact
a
lot
of
people
and
I
know
when
I
lived
there
I
barely
drove
my
car,
but
I
still
needed
some
place
to
park
it
when
I
wasn't
driving
in
because
I
took
measurements.
Please
and.
F
Yeah,
that's
just
going
to
be
a
big
change
for
people,
so
our
that
has
been
a
constant
refrain
that
we've
heard
not
only
from
the
residents
and
then
on.
The
other
side
is
the
County's
2017
policy
that
seeks
to
reduce
parking
wherever
possible
in
the
County
Central
Rivers.
So
it's
this
thing
of
okay,
actually
actual
lived
experience
versus
what
the
County's
policy
believes
to
be
the
greater
good.
F
And
how
do
we
thread
that
needle
that's
been
a
constant
struggle
that
we've
had
to
deal
with
and
I
know
Dan
Van
held
Jay
Hurley
from
grocery.
There
were
trafficking,
Souls,
they're,
online
and
I
know
the
train
stations
consideration
for
next
time.
My
recollection,
though,
is
that
I
think
I
think
our
traffic
studies
showed
that
61
of
the
average
trips
would
be.
F
B
A
Yeah,
the
chair's
privilege,
your
crack
transportation
is
on
the
agenda
for
text.
Sprc
I
will
say
that
one
thing
that
I
feel
you
know
level
check
this.
You
can
think
about
and
answer
for
next
time
we
do
have
transportation
proposition.
A
It
seems
to
be
that,
with
the
focus
of
the
new
building
you
know
intending
that
to
be
in
a
very
Metro
accessible
and
they
have
a
lot
fewer
residents
who,
including
a
car,
heavy
lifestyle
because
they
are
going
to
be
natural
based
and
such
it
seems
to
me
you
could
have
done
no
matter
how
much
Park
you
have
for
more
for
the
tower.
A
You
could
end
up
with
a
surplus
of
sparking
parking
spaces
periodically,
and
it
seems
unfortunate
to
me
if
there
were
not
a
way
to
capitalize
on
those
being
used
by
the
residents
of
the
historic
properties
in
some
capacity.
I
understand,
there's
the
you
know
the
design
is,
you
know,
have
separate
parking
and
to
have
that
potentially
separated
for
the
residents
of
Wakefield
Manor,
but
I'd
like
to
hear
Creative
Solutions
for
how
if
there
is
ultimately
a
surplus
of
parking
that
could.
A
H
Yes,
great
I'm
gonna
comment
on
open
space,
so
I
love
the
lead
status,
the
rigorous
adherence
to
buy
from
like
principles
on
the
private
residential
property
bird
friendly
elements.
All
of
those
things
I
think
that,
alluding
to
my
question
earlier,
it's
pretty
essential
on
the
resident.
Only
facade
or
the
resident
only
open
space
that
you're
providing
to
designate
that
for
the
residents
and
their
dogs,
especially
we
have
already
in
this
area
a
lot
of
demand
for
a
public
open
space
that
is
not
being
met
by
curbs
or
sidewalk
Planters.
L
H
Use
case
specifically-
and
it
also
opens
up
the
potential
additional
Elements,
which
is
really
the
second
part
of
my
comment,
paying
strong
attention
to
the
natural
elements
that
can
be
added
planter,
wise
facade,
wide
anything
that
connects
The
Pedestrian,
the
non-resident
to
the
building
and
its
green
spaces,
that
that
need
is
not
necessary
for
dogs
and
for
their
president
use
themselves,
and
so
because,
my
right
now,
my
comments
are
regulated
to
the
plan.
H
H
Love
to
see
the
additional
use
of
like
that
Des
property,
in
conjunction
with
this,
for
additional
public
space
and
in
that
element,
I
think
on
this
dog
Centric
resident
only
open
space
could
possibly
decrease,
but
the
needs
of
the
community
need
to
be
met,
especially
with
the
increased
density
within
the
building
itself
and
dogs
are
missing
in
this
one.
A
H
H
Able
to
also
centrally
locate
that
quick,
potty
break
is
I,
think
a
higher
priority
than
a
jungle
gym
or.
E
D
Yes,
I
want
to
talk
about
trees
and
the
open
room
space
in
which
there
is.
It
seems
to
me
that
that
Courtyard,
that
is
available
just
to
the
residents
to
that
one
specimen
tree,
is
really
kind
of
you
know.
That's
replacing
the
tree
of
significance.
You
know
just
seems
like
there's
an
awful
lot
and
just
looking
at
this
picture
here,
just
from
the
areas
that
you
have
control
over
I
mean
because
it'd
be
great.
D
If
we
could
do
other
things,
I
do
know
that
they
are
going
to
be
redoing,
that
50
shots
for
the
VDOT
with
with
the
fight
cap,
so
so
that
could
that
could
be
something
in
the
future,
but
just
around
that
building
there's
got
to
be
a
way
you
could
do
more
with
large
canopy
tree
shade,
trees
to
I'm
thinking
that
courtyard
is
going
to
be
really
hot
and
your
garden
as
well
I
mean
it's
some
one
of
the
things
I
see
in
a
lot
of
these
landscape
plants.
D
Is
everybody
just
loves
your
ornamental
flower,
yet
Reeds
and
most
of
those
are
understory
trees.
They
don't
do
well
in
the
blazing
sun
because,
where
they
grow
naturally
is
in
the
understory.
So
if
that's
all,
you've
got
they're
going
to
really
struggle,
plus
they
they're
very
pretty
when
they're
filming
and
everything.
But
it's
not
the
same.
It's
a
shade
tree
that
is
going
to
actually
provide
health
benefits
in
terms
in
terms
of
air
cooling.
It
off
giving
you
a
shady
sidewalk
to
walk
your
dog
on.
You
know
when
it's
August
and
standing
on.
P
D
Would
really
encourage,
since
you
plan,
because
you
are
like
building
out
of
all
of
this
Casey
you
possibly
can
that
at
least
around
the
perimeter
you
make
sure
you
have
the
best
biggest
underground
planning
boxes
that
you
can
get
that
are
hopefully
running
through
the
entire
sidewalk,
because
we
might
not
know
you've
got
you
know,
there's
utilities
and
there's
other
stuff
going
on
there.
But
you
know
this
is
something
we
deal
with
in
an
urban
environment.
You
do
the
best
you
can
with
that.
D
You
can
get
some
really
good,
shade
trees
that
are
going
to
do
well
on
that
environment.
Arlington
County
has
lists,
and
we
have.
You
said
you
have
your
arborist
Arlington
has
theirs
I'm
sure
they
can
get
together
and
walk
with
trees
that
would
work.
I
would
also
throw
in
there.
That
would
be
very,
very
important
to
have
fun
those
trees
so
that
they
at
least
have
a
chance
to
survive
until
they
get
big
enough
repair,
they're
better
off
on
their
own.
That
is
my
biggest
when
I
was
reading
through
everything.
F
Just
to
sum
up
incorporate
large
canopy
trees
and
little
ornamental
trees.
That's
number
one
number
two
maximize
the
planter
boxes.
Number
three
look
at
watering
increase
to
ensure
survivability,
especially
in
the.
D
N
J
B
I
Gets
baked
during
the
summer,
so
I
lived
in
Wakefield
Manor
facing,
for
you
know,
probably
seven
years
facing
Arlington
Boulevard.
The
temperature
within
my
apartment
would
go
up
by
10
degrees
in
the
afternoon
on
a
like
hot
sunny
day,
and
they
just
have
window
air
conditioning
units
in
those
units
and
they're,
not
powerful.
Those
are
really
cool
down.
The
cheap
rents
are
great,
there's
some
other
downsides
about
living
in
an
older
unit.
I
While
you
guys
are
looking
at
the
site,
if
there's
a
way
to
just
bring
shade
trees
around
even
the
front
on
North
Courthouse
Road,
they
have
those
little
baby,
ornamental
trees
that
provided
zero,
shade
I
just
think
in
general
on
the
site,
there's
a
lot
more
space
to
provide
shade
trees
that
just
currently
there
are
none
other
than
that
giant
tree,
that's
getting
towards
town,
unfortunately,
and
over
the
years
a
lot
of
the
bigger
trees
have
been
torn
down
on
the
site
and
replaced
with
little
tiny
ornament,
ornamental
ones,
so
yeah
I
think
that
would
be
a
huge
asset
if
that's
something
that
can
be
incorporated
into
it
kind
of
anywhere
on
the
site.
I
My
other
question
was
a
little
weird
White
House,
that's
getting
torn
down.
My
understanding
is
that,
historically,
there
were
a
bunch
of
those
that
kind
of
dotted
the
hillside.
Is
there
any?
I
You
know
tiny
houses
that
there's
just
one
left
and
that's
the
last
one
and
it's
gonna
go
away,
and
it's
super
weird,
but
incorporating
that
somehow
into
some
of
the
you
know,
even
if
it's
just
outside
a
design
feature
in
the
little
Courtyard
or
something
but
I
think
that
is
at
least
from
what
I've
heard
and
probably
Ralph
Johnson
and
others
know
way
more
about
like
that
history
and
what
it
used
to
look
like
in
the
World
War
II
era.
I
But
that's
something
that,
if
there's
a
way
to
to
kind
of
you
know
make
a
nod
to
these
used
to
be
dotted
all
around
here
and
then
the
last
one
was
here
before
this
building
came
I.
Think
that
could
be
just
kind
of
interesting
from
an.
A
I
want
to
be
conscious
of
time
one
question
I'm
going
to
throw
out
to
the
group
and
kind
of
dance
around
this
a
bit
and
I
know
there
were
several
slides
on
the
Kennedy
staff
presentation
side,
the
applicant
presentation
side
with
regards
to
the
narrowness
of
the
separation.
At
times
with
me,
the
historic
buildings
and
the
new
development,
any
feedback
from
this
group
any
guidance.
Anything
we
want
to
kind
of
share
on
that.
So
you
call
out
so
we
didn't
it
didn't
specifically
come.
J
I
I
can't
really
criticize
13.5
B
because
this
is
approved
before,
but
if
it
was
a
site
plan
from
scratch,
I
would
and
I
I'm
disappointed.
There
are
no
Shadow
studies
to
show
what
the
effects
on
buildings-
maybe
the
Shadows,
would
be
helpful
in
services,
at
least
in
the
morning
heat
the
summer,
but
not
so
good
in
the
winter,
so
so
I
I
do
and
because,
when
I
think
about
you
just
went
through
a
contentious
site
plan
with
Barbara
and
the
Lisa
courts
and
I
don't.
I
And
the
specie
between
Wakefield
Manor,
so
where
it
is
the
narrow,
is
because
I
know,
there's
a
door
that
residents
now
use
to
get
from
the
parking
lot
to
the
laundry
room
and
the
rest
of
the
units.
I
Did
you
have
a
picture
again
of
exactly
what
that
kind
of
area
was
going
to
look
like?
Is
it
I
see
some
trees
kind
of
in
there.
P
P
I
Also
being
addressed,
that's
it!
Basically,
though,
just
a
sidewalk
with
there
are
going
to
be
some
trees,
blinding
it
but
yeah
it
is
pretty
tight,
but
I
don't
know
if
there's
much
that
can
be
done
about
that.
A
Okay,
so
at
this
point,
we're
getting
close
I
want
to
suffuse
over
time
for
a
public
comment,
so
this
is
last
call
last
comments.
Final
thoughts
from
the
sprc
group.
A
K
Great
I
just
will
highlight
that
I.
Think
a
shadow
study
would
be
really
useful
here
for
us
to
understand
how
this
is
going
to
impact
and
also
I,
think
you
know
just
from
a
landscaping
perspective
what
plants
are
going
to
be
viable
where
from
a
solar,
you
know
sort
of
sustainability.
K
The
other
thing
is-
and
this
is
our
next
meeting,
but
you
know
this
is-
has
a
permanently
clear,
Southern
facing
sort
of
exposure.
So
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
look
at
real
solar
panel
and
energy,
harnessing
you
know
either
now
or
as
the
building
you
know
ages.
You
can
sort
of
look
for
that
because
you
have
a
guaranteed
Southern
Exposure
for
the
lifetime
of
this
building
other
than
that
I
think
that's
all
I
had
thank
you.
A
S
So
hi,
my
name
is
Jason
and
I
live
in
Taft
Towers
just
across
the
street,
and
my
apartment
faces
Arlington
Boulevard,
I
love
living
in
this
neighborhood.
It's
really
convenient
just
a
six
minute,
walk
to
the
metro
and
really
quiet.
Besides
the
vehicular
noise
on
Arlington
Boulevard
right
now,
the
site
is
really
horribly
underutilized,
there's
limited
pedestrian
traffic
and
the
parking
lots
creating
an
unsightly
Dead
Zone.
The
new
space.
The
new
site
plan
has
better
entry
level
integration
onto
the
sidewalks,
with
a
more
functional
Green,
Space
and
I
Echo.
S
The
comments
made
by
people
on
the
commission
that
hopefully,
that
green
space
can
be
used
for
the
community
as
a
whole,
not
just
residents
in
the
building
I,
think
the
massing
height
and
density
are
appropriate.
The
site
is
much
less
imposing
than
Woodbury
Heights
and
the
surrounding
buildings,
which
are
much
taller.
The
current
space
between
the
site
and
Wakefield
Manor
is
just
a
concrete
and
a
trash
dumpster,
and
next
there
really
needs
to
be
welcoming
spaces
along
Troy
Street
that
cater
and
Center
to
The
Pedestrian.
S
The
site
needs
to
focus
on
people
on
foot
and
bike,
not
on
cars
driving
along
Arlington
Boulevard.
S
You
know,
I
I,
don't
really
support
really
investing
much
into
architectural
detailing
and
and
things
that
are
unnecessary
on
Arlington
Boulevard,
because
you
know
why
do
we
care
what
people
think
driving
in
their
car
they're
not
going
to
be
looking
up
from
their
car
to
see?
What's
going
on,
and
then
people
of
course,
in
the
Fort
Myers?
Don't
we
shouldn't
really
cater
to
what
what
their
sight
line
is.
We
should
be
focusing
on
people,
people
walking
and
around
the
site.
S
Just
a
note,
13th
and
Troy
would
be
great
space
for
a
capital
bike
store
station
I've
taken
364
rides
on
Capital
bikes
for
the
past
two
years
and
also
there's
been
a
lot
of
comments
on
trees
and
I.
I
do
like
that.
There's
trees,
but
safety
has
got
to
be
a
priority,
especially
on
the
curb
Cuts.
There
needs
to
be
making
sure
that
you
know
Troy
Street
when
I
walk
up
Troy
Street,
there's
tons
of
curb
cuts
and
there's
people
coming
in
fast.
S
So
we
need
to
be
careful
that
the
trees
planted
are
not
blocking
the
sight
lines.
I
mean
I
love
a
shade,
I
love
all
that,
but
I
I,
like
my
safety,
and
you
know,
people
that
are
walking
down.
We
can't
have
big
giant
trees,
blocking
the
sight
lines,
creating
pedestrian
conflicts
other
than
that
it's
a
great
building
and
I
hope
it
gets
built
with
the
adjustments
made.
Thank
you.
L
T
I
lived
in
this
building,
I
lived
in
Wakefield
Manor
in
the
original
building
for
seven
and
a
half
years,
starting
in
1978
and
I
loved
living
there.
T
The
thing
that
bothers
me,
the
most
about
this
plan,
is
that
you're,
taking
away
sunlight
from
apartments
from
at
least
eight
Apartments,
like
totally
of
the
13
apartments
that
are
in
that
building
and
you're
doing
that
well
and
then
you're
adding
light
at
night
because
of
the
path
of
what
you're
going
to
have
to
do
to
light
the
pathways.
T
So
I
think
that
you
should
look
at
having
the
pathway
that
is
going
from
Fairfax
Drive
North
be
the
same
width
as
the
one.
That's
going
that
that
is
going.
Let's
see,
East
and
West
along
the
north
end
of
the
of
the
new
building
I,
don't
see
why
one
has
to
be
a
lot
smaller
than
the
other,
so
that's
kind
of
mirroring
the
some
of
the
things
that
other
folks
have
said.
T
It
also
seems
to
me
that
these
Pathways
will
be
dangerous
at
night
and
it
seems
that
you
haven't
committed
to
it,
but
it
seems
that
you're
likely
to
put
all
the
affordable
apartments
in
the
historic
buildings
and
that
you're
separating
the
amenities
for
the
the
new
building
from
those
that
will
be
available
to
the
historic
buildings
and
that
I
think
isn't
isn't
right,
because
this
is
all
one
apartment
complex.
T
So
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
say
something.
A
F
A
Appreciate
the
clarification
on
that
Mr
Bernie
burn
you're
up
two
minutes.
Q
Yes,
the
total
of
eight
tens
of
these
2.60
FDR
is
excessive.
There's
nothing
about
the
site
plan
that
indicates
that
the
project
will
have
the
exceptional
Community
benefits
required
to
to
justify
this.
Much
density
reduce
the
speed
building
footprint
to
increase
the
amount
of
at
grade
open
space.
This
will
increase
the
space
available
for
planting,
so
other
natural
features
replace
the
plant
lawn
at
the
end
of
Fairfax
Drive
with
plants
that
support
pollinators
Lawns,
don't
support
anything
except
baby
sparrows
the
building
is
Too
Tall
and
too
large.
Q
It
will
power
above
its
neighbors
setbacks
and
tapers
are
too
small.
The
new
building
detracts
from
the
historical
character
of
the
surrounding
builders
in
the
neighborhood.
It
resembles
nothing
in
its
neighborhood
reduce
the
width
of
traffic
drive
to
three
lanes,
the
drive
that
is
in
the
block.
It
will
not
need
to
accommodate
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
street,
replace
remove
Street
space
with
plantings
and
shrubs
about
species.
It's
a
four
colonies.
This
is
where
we
do
a
storm
water
run
off
and
add
that
in
biophilia
we
have
the
building
lacks
biophilia.
Q
It
needs
a
large
green
roof.
It
also
needs
flowering
native
lines
at
the
center
of
the
roof
and
all
balconies
and
Ledges.
It
further
needs
additional
vines
that
climb
from
the
grounds
on
trellises.
The
courtyard
should
be
either
private,
nor
elevated,
replace
most
of
The
courtyard's
Hardscape,
with
green
space
to
comply
with
the
county
boards,
2016
Monarch
pledge
and
Lodge.
The
Nate
feel
quote
native
garden
planting
area
above
utility
vaults,
removing
Hardscape
plant
common
milkweed,
and
this
is
important.
Q
Plant
common
milkweed
is
collecting
a
syriaca
which
is
the
only
plant
that
feeds
not
modified
butterfly
caterpillars
and
the
supplies
in
Arlington's
natural
areas.
In
fact,
few
wind
pollinators,
grass
and
sedges
as
these
don't
support
pollinated
very
much.
The
conceptual
landsafe
plant
that
plant
is
not
list
of
species.
Vocational,
shrubs,
perennials
and
ground
covers
all
must
behaved
in
Northern
Virginia.
The
application
must
submit
this
complete
plant
list
for
public
review
before
the
next
sprc
meeting
that
we
need
that.
O
Yeah
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
have
nothing
against
the
building
at
all
the,
but
Wakefield
is
also
a
building
that
the
county
has
pushed
pushed
very
hard
for
very
long
to
keep
and
preserve.
Therefore,
I
think
attention
on
this
plan
must
be
to
make
sure
that
Wakefield
is
preserved
and
continues
to
be
able
to
thrive.
O
The
back
Alleyway
that
Mr
I
think
Krebs
Cheryl
James
schroll
said
that
he
wants
to
get
rid
of
the
curb
cut
there.
That
curb
cut
is
necessary
for
our
vehicles
to
go
to
maintain
that
building
and
to
deliver
supplies
to
that
building.
O
Without
that
there
is
no
way
to
supply
it
other
than
riding
through
the
middle
of
the
courtyard,
and
we
have
to
have
that
road
and-
and
it's
in
terms
of
the
the
dog
park
I'm
in
favor
of
the
dog
park,
because
we're
we're
anti-dogs,
we
don't
want
dogs
there
and
those
people
come
over
and
you
put
their
dogs
on
our
place.
We
don't
want
that
either,
but
you
got
to
make
sure
that
that
road
is
not
listed
as
a
park.
O
A
Time
we
are
meeting
again
on
May
15th,
which
I
believe
is
okay,
so
tentatively
for
Monday,
May
15th
expect
an
update
on
that.
Thank
you
all
for
participating
because
have
a
good
restaurant.
Thank.