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B
All
right:
well,
let's
get
started
we're
at
seven
o'clock.
Welcome
to
the
January
23rd
2012
site,
then
review
the
committee
subgroup
meeting
for
arva.
We
will
be
holding
a
hybrid
public
meeting
which
enables
remote
electronic
participation
as
legally
authorized
between
photo
Virginia
for
the
planning
commissions.
Electronic
leading
policy
adopted
on
July
7
2022
members
of
the
sprc
subgroup
for
arva
are
participating
here,
both
in
person
and
virtually
through
electronic
means.
Sprc
subgroup
members
participating
virtually
including
Elizabeth
Gallagher
pedestrian
advisory
committee
and
Doris
Ray
from
BBD
disability
advisory
Commission.
B
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
orient
everyone
to
our
hybrid
environment
and
for
a
few
specifics
about
how
tonight's
meeting
will
run
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of
the
public
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person
or
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notification
sent
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sprce
email
subscribers.
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there
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dial-in
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wish
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B
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B
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sign
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that,
the
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need
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chat
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technical
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B
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verbally
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record
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assigned
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comment
period.
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members
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you
would
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to
speak
and
let
us
know
subgroup
members
are
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a
phone
today
without
a
hand,
raise
option.
B
I
will
verbally
check
in
to
see
if
there
are
members
who
still
want
to
be
recognized,
and
you
can
unmute
and
speak
that
for
our
members
of
the
public.
Who
would
like
to
provide
feedback
and
comment,
you
will
be
called
on
to
speak
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
will
be
allotted
two
to
three
minutes
to
speak
on
tonight's
agenda
item.
This
speaking
time
allotted
will
depend
on
the
number
of
students
this
evening.
B
If
you
wish
to
sleep,
please
enter
your
name
in
the
meeting
chat
for
virtual
attendees
or
provide
staff
with
your
name
if
in
person-
and
you
will
be
added
to
the
speakers
list
last
ly,
this
is
a
public
forum.
Today's
meeting
will
be
recorded
and
posted
on
the
County
website.
All
information
associated
with
today's
meeting,
whether
written
or
spoken,
is
subject
to
the
Freedom
of
Information,
sacrifice
very
much
around
the
table
and
do
introductions.
B
So
we
get
all
get
to
know
each
other
I'm
Tenley
Peterson.
I
am
a
Planning
Commission
member
and
I
am
chair
of
the
all
of
the
sprcs
for
Arlington's
projects,
but
I'm
a
chair
of
this
particular
project
as
well.
Yeah.
C
All
right
to
my
breath,
sorry
I'm
late
I'm,
Leo,
Farley
I'm,
also
from
the
planning
Dimension
James,
troll
Planning,.
D
Commission
the
slide
from
the
Transportation
Commission.
She
didn't
want
to
tell
me
Planning
Commission
Matt
Roberts,
with
the
herself
project.
E
Oh
so
animal
Transportation.
B
L
Yes,
Doris
Ray,
representing
the
disability,
advisory
Commission.
B
Thank
you,
Doris,
okay,
great
so
now,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
the
staff
and
applicant
for
very
short
Max
10-minute
presentation,
I
sent
around
the
video
presentations
and
the
staff
report
that
they
worked
on
very
hard.
B
So
I
hope
you
all
got
a
chance
to
look
at
those,
but
in
case
you
need
a
refresher.
We
have
these
two
presentations,
so
why
don't
I
turn
it
over
to
Peter
to
go
first
and
then
we'll
go
to
Ashton
Allen
from
the
applicant.
Thank.
A
You
I'd
just
like
to
familiarize
everyone
online
and
here
with
the
project
webpage.
Probably
the
easiest
way
to
get.
There
is
just
go
on
the
arlingtonva.us
main
webpage
and
type
in
2201,
Arlington
Boulevard,
where
arva
and
that'll
that'll
be
your
first
tip.
You'll
find
all
the
materials
here,
including
the
developers,
application
materials,
as
well
as
the
detailed
plans
and
the
rezoning
application.
You'll
find
summaries
of
the
previous
online
engagement
opportunity.
A
We
did
November
2nd
through
December
5th
today
is
the
first
live
hybrid
meeting
of
the
site
plan
review
committee
and
I
will
just
you
can
watch
my
presentation
or
watch
the
slides
I
will,
instead
of
going
through
it
at
detail,
just
go
through
the
main
highlights
again.
The
online
engagement
period
happened,
November
22nd
through
December
5th
2022.
It
had
39
unique
commenters
staff
wanted
to
prompt
discussion
about
things
like
the
historic
preservation
of
the
lobby
and
the
sign
results
of
that
were
pretty
much
equally
divided.
A
There
were
several
comments
about
adding
retail
to
the
corner
of
Pershing
and
Arlington
Drive
generally,
there
were
no
strong
feelings
on
the
the
architectural
style
of
the
building.
Pretty
much.
Everyone
would
like
to
see
more
Landscaping
on
the
site
and
green
space
and
a
lot
of
comments
requesting
specifically
a
water
fountain
at
the
corner,
Pershing
Drive
and
Arlington
Boulevard,
and
a
strong
desire
for
protected
bike
Lanes
on
both
sides
of
Pershing
Drive
staff's
preliminary
issues,
which
will
continue
to
be
issues
as
we
work
through.
This
process
include
parking.
A
That's
slightly
above
grade
the
Transformer
location,
which
the
developer
might
tell.
You
will
show
you
today
a
possible
solution
to
that.
We
suggest
it
also
improved
Landscaping,
actually
moving.
The
Transformer
location
might
also
help
with
that
too.
You
needed
evidence
and
the
developer
will
show
you
today
about
the
existing
sign
and
Lobby
can't
be
preserved,
but
they
do
hope
will
not
vote
but
will
recreate
them
in
an
accurate
way
and.
A
More
be
done
for
sustainability
and
biophilia
considered
that's
one
of
the
important
goals
of
special
study
that
was
done
last
year
about
this
site
generally.
The
building
form
and
architecture
is
consistent
with
the
outcome
of
that
special
study,
where
they
move
the
height
to
the
Arlington
Boulevard
side,
away
from
the
neighborhood
and
towards
the
middle
of
the
site
and
then
tapering
down
to
the
surrounding
properties.
A
One
of
the
strong
recommendations
of
that
special
Club
study
was
to
actually
preserve
the
Vintage
sign
and
lobby
at
the
corner
of
Pershing
Drive
in
Arlington
Boulevard.
The
developer
proposes
to
recreate
those
issues
they
have
and
I
is
posted
online.
A
third-party
structural
engineer
report
that
that
that
actually
using
the
70
year
old
items
are
just
not
possible
today,
but
that
they
will
recreate
as
as
close
as
possible.
A
Using
the
same
size
staff
would
still
encourage
that
the
development
perhaps
reuse
some
material
if
possible,
if
not
the
actual
structures
themselves.
A
With
regard
to
the
architecture,
though,
another
guiding
principle
for
the
site
was
that
it
either
celebrate
the
mid-century
modern
of
the
architecture
or
fit
in
with
the
existing
neighboring
Washington
and
Lee
apartments
and
staff
had
a
couple
examples
that
we
had
collected
of
the
neighboring
of
just
some
simple
detailing
with
brick
that
nothing
elaborate
need
be
done.
But
in
order
to
be
more
contextual
that,
usually
you
can
see
in
the
corners
here
and
at
the
cornice
line
at
the
roof.
A
Just
some
just
light
detailing
the
transportation
staff's
Transportation
analysis
just
went
into
the
existing.
The
developer
is
proposing
a
protected
bike
lane
on
this
side
of
Pershing
Drive
Des.
Would
you
know,
support
a
protected
bicycle
lane
across
Pershing
Drive
in
order
to
have
matching
bike
Lanes
on
both
sides,
we
can
work
with
the
developer.
On
that
be
aware,
though,
that
the
north
side,
protected
bike
lane
is
considered
an
off-site
improvement,
so
it
would
be,
as
part
of
their
package
of
community
benefits
the
protected
bike
lane
on
this
side.
A
A
The
I
just
heard
myself
coming
back
the
same
thing
with
the
connection
here
to
Arlington
Boulevard
and
the
developer
will
show
you
in
their
presentation
that
they
improved
the
Landscaping
and
to
add
to
birming
along
Arlington
Boulevard
more
in
line
with
the
sector
plan
recommendation
and
will
be
widening
and
approving
the
trail.
A
So
the
public
process
is,
however,
that
February
27th
date
is
incorrect,
that
our
next
meeting
will
most
likely
be
March
20th
to
discuss
remaining
issues
as
well
as
Landscaping.
Today,
the
agenda
we
think,
would
focus
mostly
on
architecture
and
transportation
issues
and
then,
of
course,
to
be
determined
for
commission.
You
know
the
Full
Slate
of
commission
meetings
and
then
finally,
the
County,
Board
and
again
I'd,
like
everybody
to
you,
know,
feel
free
to
check
the
the
website
which
is
regularly
updated.
Thank
you.
A
Let's
see:
March
23rd
20th
20th,
Sunday,
March
20.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
okay
and
now,
let's
turn
to
match
Allen
for
the
applicant
presentation,
and
actually
you
can
introduce
yourself.
I
realized
I
skipped
over
you
during
the
introduction
phase.
M
That's
all
right,
thank
you
and
apologies
I'm,
not
there
in
person,
but
I'm
Ashton,
Allen
Studios
architecture.
Matt.
Did
you
want
to
give
any
high
level
overview
or
should
I
Jump
Right
In.
D
Yeah,
just
real,
quick
and
actually
I
think
you
might
be
a
little
Frozen
there.
You
might
want
to
try
a
camera
on
and
off
just
real
quick.
So
good
evening,
everybody
Matt
Roberts
with
the
Hershey
law
firm.
As
I
said
earlier,
project
team
there
we
go
live
in
charge,
we're
really
looking
forward
to
having
this
discussion
with
everybody
and
getting
this
project
off
the
ground.
This
project
is
Peter,
sort
of
you
know
letting
you
know
it's
a
long
time
coming.
D
It's
been
in
the
thought
process,
both
with
the
applicant
accounting
for
quite
some
time
before
we
get
started.
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
to
Aaron
in
the
lionheart
neighborhood
for
hosting
us
on
several
occasions
so
far
to
come
out.
Have
these
discussions
pretty
early
as
we
were
filing
and
kind
of
going
through
the
early
iterations
of
the
project
really
great
to
have
the
community
feedback
on
that
really
have
a
good
positive
relationship
with
Wyatt
Park.
D
So
we
very
much
appreciated
that
Peter
has
given
you
really
all
the
background
to
kind
of
bring
things
up
is
where
we
need
to
be
I.
Think
for
our
presentation
tonight
in
advance
of
getting
into
some
discussions,
I
wanted
to
highlight
for
you
at
National.
Do
this
some
of
the
changes
we've
made
since
the
initial
filing
and
some
things
that
I'll
be
wanted
to
highlight.
So
with
that
Ashley
just
go
ahead.
M
Thanks
so
much
Matt
and
and
thank
you,
members
of
the
of
the
commission,
the
as
an
overview,
you
know,
as
Matt
mentioned,
we've
had
several
meetings
with
line
Park,
as
well
as
the
hybrid
Community
input
as
Peter
had
referenced,
and
through
that
and
staff
comments.
We've
been
able
to
to
Garner
a
couple
key
elements
that
we'd
like
to
present
today,
as
as
propositions
to
potentially
improve
the
design
and
respond
to
some
of
those
comments.
M
M
So
the
first
of
these
changes
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
is
the
lobby
volume,
which
was
a
which
was
a
staff
comment
and
noting
that
the
you
know
original
Lobby
and
sign,
which
are
you
know,
unfortunately,
in
a
in
a
structural
condition
that
isn't
really
savable
in
their
current
form
and
their
current
form
has
gone
through
many
iterations
in
the
in
the
past.
80
plus
years,
but
zipping
back
and
forth,
the
goal,
consistent
with
our
study,
is
to
maintain
the
proportion
of
that
original
Lobby.
M
M
Similarly,
we've
talked
about
improving
the
landscape
at
the
base
of
the
building
and
Firming
kind
of
building
in
with
the
the
layered
landscape
approach
along
Arlington
Boulevard,
and
that
really
is
possible
thanks
to
relocating
the
Transformer
vault
apologies
here.
M
So
in
this
plan
view
I
have
vignettes
of
renderings
at
the
bottom
of
this
is
the
Transformer
Vault,
that's
currently
designed
as
a
surface
vault
here
at
the
corner
of
Arlington
Boulevard
and
the
south
end
of
the
site
and
that's
being
proposed
to
be
relocated
to
underground
under
Pershing
Drive,
which
will
allow
additional
landscape
around
this
end
and
an
additional
windows
at
the
base
of
this
building
so
really
allowing
a
better
transition
over
overall
in
the
site
and
Landscaping
all
around
flipping
around.
This
is
a
view
across
Pershing
Drive.
M
Looking
South
here
is
the
the
original
design
with
the
two-story
volume
and
again
dropping
that
to
the
to
the
one
story:
architecture
similar
to
what
is
is
in
the
mass
today
and
highlighting
the
the
retail
equivalent
space,
which
is
here
at
the
corner
into
the
the
goal
of
maintaining
the
the
corner.
Lobby
expression
is
something
that
programmatically
made
sense
to
maintain
a
Lobby
itself
for
the
for
the
Building
architecture,
and
we
can
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
later.
M
Okay,
this
is
a
view,
as
we've
moved
down
down
to
Wayne
Street
at
the
corner
of
the
proposed
Park
easement
area,
the
public
use
easement,
which
would
be
designed
as
a
park.
M
Speaking
of
that
Park.
In
this
view,
there
were
questions
from
staff
about
a
sidewalk
in
this
location
that
was
being
planned
within
the
park
easement
that
would
provide
access
to
some
of
the
apartments,
as
well
as
egress
paths
from
the
building
in
in
response
to
that,
we're
proposing
to
relocate
That
Sidewalk
outside
of
that
proposed
Park,
easement
Zone,
removing
that
area
from
from
this
portion
of
the
building
and
and
putting
it
back
moving
that
density
back
to
Arlington
Boulevard.
M
Still,
maintaining
over
a
25
foot
setback
here
and
65-foot
setback
from
the
from
the
property
line.
M
To
Peter's
point
on
architectural
detailing,
we
also
thought
that
this
was
worth
mentioning
and
showing
sharing
some
images
that
were
a
little
closer
up.
Some
of
these
elements
of
coining
are
captured
and
kind
of
extended
within
the
mid-century
or
modern
spirit,
with
the
by
expressing
these
horizontal
Soldier
courses,
which
essentially
kind
of
a
scaled
up
coining
at
the
corners
of
the
architecture
and
then
cornice
Again
by
those
kind
of
pulled
out
Soldier
courses
and,
as
you
come
down
to
the
base
of
the
building.
M
Finally,
coming
to
the
Arlington
Boulevard
Trail,
which
I
believe
is
most
people
most
of
you
know,
is
mostly
on
a
VDOT
controlled
land.
So
there
is
ongoing
conversations
with
VDOT
to
ensure
that
we
can
provide
the
types
of
improvements
that
we
are,
that
the
sector
the
the
glove
expects.
But
in
this
design
there
was
a
lot
of
Hardscape
against
the
base
of
the
building
and
again
with
some
and
these
Stoops
and
stairs,
and
by
reallocating
the
sharing
stairs,
having
fewer
stairs
that
actually
come
down.
M
Changing
the
width
of
the
stoop
and
we're
able
to
add
landscape
and
provide
a
a
better
transition
and
berm
against
the
against
the
architecture
allowing
this
kind
of
quintessential
neighborhood
stoop
condition
to
to
be
continuous
and
kind
of
provide
an
urban
Urban
Edge
along
that
trail.
Finally,
zooming
back
back
across
Arlington
again
this
Transformer
Vault
location,
which
had
produced
a
dead
wall
in
the
back
corner
being
able
to
remove
that
activate
that
turn
those
back
into
units
and
then
provide
that
transition.
M
With
this
with
the
stoop
level,
we
think
these
These
are
improvements
that
we
think
improve
the
architecture
and
we're
we're
pleased
to
be
able
to
to
show.
This
is
just
a
drawing
that
shows
this
Pad
Transformer
above
ground.
This
was
the
the
plan
below
grade
and
then,
as
those
Transformer
vaults,
move
to
Pershing
Drive
in
Arlington,
where
there
is
service,
freeing
up
the
south
end
of
the
site
to
allow
circulation
around,
which
was
another
staff
comment.
M
G
Equipment,
excuse
me
again:
I'm
Dan
about
health
group
Slade.
Let's
quickly
go
through
this.
All
this
is
touched
on
as
we
go
through
the
slide.
So
let's
just
keep
going
through
pedestrian
facilities.
We
we
did
a.
We
did
a
transportation
study
that
looked
at
all
the
pedestory
facilities
around
the
site
and
I
think
you
may
have
gone
if
you
skipped
forward
again.
So
just
I've
already
talked
about
how
the
trail
gets
upgraded
along
the
Eastern
front
of
the
site,
along
with
all
the
sidewalks
that
are
around
the
appropriate.
G
The
site
are
upgraded.
It's
a
very
walkable
area,
we're
just
trying
to
enhance
that
and
enhance
connectivity
with
the
site.
Next
slide.
G
Transit
facilities
are
15
bus
stops
in
the
vicinity
of
the
site
and
there's
five
routes
that
are
served
there,
we're
about
to
take
tenths
of
a
mile
to
in
a
mile
from
the
Metro
stations
with
the
Consulting,
my
service.
G
Bike
facilities,
I
think
we'll
talk
more
about
those
probably
this
evening,
but
they're
supposed
to
bike
Lanes
on
the
purview
drive
has
already
talked
about
upgrade
along
the
south
side
to
protect
the
plane
and
see.
There's
the
there's
the
new
section
of
the
it's
fine
ground
floor,
Bike
Room,
which
I
think
is
a
really
nice
thing
to
have
so
long-term
space
is
on
the
ground
floor
and
the
short-term
spaces
that
let's
go
to
the
next
slide
just
interesting
time.
G
This
shows
the
protective
bike
line
along
the
Pershing
and
it's
been
modified
a
bit
to
extend
the
median
down
the
middle
of
Persian
to
restrict
the
charity
movements
to
Ryan
right
out
off
of
off
a
purchasing
site,
drive
and
also
close
up.
What
was
there
before
that's
no
longer
needed,
as
you
get
closer
up
to
the
intersection
process,
responding
two
access
points
and
the
person
drive.
As
we've
said,
we
write
it
right
out.
Wayne
Street
wants
to
be
operated
as
a
left-end
right
out,
so
the
circulation
patterns.
G
You
see
here
there's
the
internal
screens
within
the
site
with
the
shared
views
on
the
southern
end
of
the
site,
and
this
shows
I'll
pick
up.
Drop-Off
would
work
coming
in
and
out
of
the
site.
Let's
keep
going
because
I
have
a
fairly
pretty
close
to
end
of
my
three
minutes.
If
I
have
45
seconds
really.
Okay,
sorry,
all
right!
So
this
we
can
talk
more
about
this.
G
But
let's
just
pick
up
drop
options,
location
loading
dock,
if
I
burn
next
slide,
please,
and
then
we
did
at
mmta
and
really
the
site
box
pretty
pretty
low
here.
So
really
mitigations
are
through
good
site
design
and
trade
space
demand
management
Venture.
So
we
could
talk
more
about
those
as
we
go
together.
So
thank.
B
Great,
thank
you
very
much,
okay.
So,
as
Peter
mentioned
tonight,
the
discussion
is
going
to
be
covering
building
form
and
architecture
as
well
as
transportation,
so
we'll
have
about
30
minutes
of
discussion
for
each
one
of
those
topics
and
it's
for
architecture
building
Forum.
You
know
we're
talking
about
architecture,
the
location,
the
amount
of
retail
neighborhood
character,
halrb
issues
with
the
lobby
and
arva
signage
staff
brought
up
the
you
know
the
evidence
that
the
sign
and
Lobby
can
be
preserved.
B
If
you
need
to
see
more
evidence
there
and
the
above
ground
Transformer,
which
the
applicant
has
been
working
on
so
I'd
like
to
open
up
the
conversation
to
the
group.
If
you
have
a
question
you
know
just
just
or
you
know,
clarifying
questions
or
comments
about
what
you've
seen
I
mean.
If
I
can
ask
the
folks
that
are
joining
us
virtually
if
they
can
turn
their
cameras
on.
So
we
can
kind
of
welcome
you
to
the
discussion.
B
If
you
have
questions
or
comments,
please
raise
your
hand
or
kind
of
give
us
a
wave
and
then
we'll
know
to
developing
you
Doris
I
know.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I
see
your
hands
raised
right
now.
Did
you
want
to
start
us
off
Doris
or
was
your
hand
raise
residual
from
before.
B
L
L
Yeah
so
the
first
floor
and
of
the
building
itself.
The
residential
excuse
me
for
a
second.
L
And
and
the
retail
will
need
to
be
fully
accessible
in
accordance,
not
with
just
antsy,
for
the
housing.
L
What
is
going
to
have
to
be
fully
accessible
with
the
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act,
because
any
retail
is
considered
a
public
accommodation,
so
I'm
wondering
whether
the
walkways
and
pass
the
travel
now
there
will
be
reconstructed
to
be
fully
accessible
with
Ada
I
know
from
driving
back
there
and
I
passed
that
building
frequently
on
the
bus,
because
I
live
right
up
the
road
that
that
it's
older,
sidewalks
and-
and
there
is
some
slope
there
and
it's
not
fully
accessible,
so
I'm
wondering
what
you're
going
to
be
doing
about
that,
and
is
there
reconstruction
inside
the
building
for
the
the
retail
and
the
front
doors,
because
the
path
of
travel
will
have
to
be
completely
require
compliant
with
the
2010
Ada
accessibility
standards.
B
Thanks
Doris
I'm.
N
From
field
a
few
of
these,
can
everyone
hear
me
yes
again,
yeah
so
I
mean
you
know
we
will
make
this
this
project
fully
accessible
as
a
part
by
code,
AS
required
by
Ada
Nancy,
and
the
retail
in
particular
is
accessible
right
off
the
sidewalk,
curb
Cuts
will
be
accessible
entries
into
the
retail
space
will
be
accessible,
we'll
be
up
to
the
retailer
itself
to
ensure
that
their
facility
is
accessible.
So
the
answer
is,
is
a
panic.
Yes,.
B
D
Sure
I
could
jump
in
on
my
questions
falling
around
the
first
level
of
the
building
and
that's
the
parking
in
retail
I
guess
maybe
touch
retail
first
mentioned
that
you
know
people
want
retail
the
more
version
we
can
probably
Boulevard
I'd
be
really
concerned
about
that
I'm,
not
sure
this
pedestrian
traffic
there
I
think
the
retail
and
and
Eric
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong,
the
retail
version
seems
to
be
struggling,
yeah,
I'm,
not
sure
adding
yet
another
place
in
the
probably
the
least,
with
the
police.
D
Pedestrian
traffic
is
a
recipe
for
Success,
so
I
think
the
having
a
Lobby.
There
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
A
That's
just
my
opinion,
yeah,
so
I
consulted
with
Margaret,
you
know
doing
the
plan
and
that.
A
Would
be
happy
with
a
Lobby,
that's
transparent
and
you
know,
provides
some
sort
of
interactivity,
so
staff
is
not
insisting
that
that
space
beat
retail
I
was
just
summarizing.
Some
comments.
I
just
wanted
to
advice,
as
staff
will
support
the
developers
proposal.
You
know,
subject
to
the
required
transparency
for
that
site
and
again
the
study
document.
You
know
so
at
least
that
the
plaza
has
some
sort
of
visibility
in
and
out
for
safety
and
security
purposes.
But
yes,
retail's
been
tough.
H
H
I,
don't
I'm,
not
sure
that
I'm
willing
to
say
for
the
next
30
Years
nobody's
going
to
want
to
put
a
restaurant
or
a
coffee
shop
right
there
with
all
that
beautiful
landscaping
that
you
guys
are
planning
there
with
the
bike
trail
right
there
with
you
know
that
is
an
opportunity
to
have
a
really
nice
I'm,
just
going
to
say
coffee
shop,
because
I
would
stop
there
all
the
time,
because
we
don't
have
a
good
coffee
shop
anywhere
in
Lion
Park
area,
I
get
it
that
it's
not
as
compelling
as
as
more
rental
spaces,
and
if
it
has
to
be
subsidized
retail,
that's
not
as
compelling
for
the
Builder,
but
I
think
it'd
be
great
to
have
it
and
I'd
really
like
to
see
more
than
one
little
I
mean
it's
a
huge
site,
one
little
retail.
H
There
doesn't
seem
like
enough
to
me
cross
street
there's
seven
eight
things
and
yes,
they've
struggled
in
the
last
couple
years,
but
they're
thriving,
but
they
went
in
and
they
can
Thrive
again
at
the
right
kind
of
stuff.
You
look
up
at
lee
Heights
up
in
Arrow,
Wine
and
stuff
Westover
different
places,
but
old
stuff
can
interesting
stuff.
The
Right
Mix
can
thrive.
D
That
parking
is
am
I
looking
at
that
it
looks
like
the
parking
is
on
the
first
level,
and
some
of
the
market
actually
shows
right
up
to
the
facade.
Is
that
correct?
Because
if
that
is
correct,
I'm
really
bothered
by
the
time
I
think
that's
sort
of
contrary
to
everything
that
fees
and
Counting
and
pushing
that
we
don't
want
parking
to
be
right
up
against
the
sidewalk.
D
D
I
do
wonder,
and
this
is
something
I'd
refer
to
Future
Starly,
the
archetype
had
actually
Mr
Crider
for
design.
Wasn't
the
old
arva.
It
was
certainly
made
some
of
the
modern
sort
of
like
the
Boogie
movement
type
of
design
that
that
played
at
Super
and
played
in
the
class
and
everything.
J
D
It
just
strikes
me
that
Barbara
was
really
a
different
architecturally,
very
different
from
the
Department
buildings.
Next
to
it,
which
seems
designed
and
then
decently
wanted
so
I,
don't
I,
wouldn't
fire
the
building
to
look
like
boats,
I've
sort
of
before
it's
more.
What
it
was
you
know
the
Boogie
movement
is
is
what
it
should
be:
I'm
not
so
concerned
about
it
really
I
again
to
the
apartment
buildings
next
door,
which
were
a
very
different
design,
aesthetic
and
I'm,
not
sure
the
two
that
really
match
together
there
was
a
real
break
there.
D
D
I
would
definitely
refer
to
lrp
as
far
as
whether
to
keep
it
in
some
form
just
recreated.
But
it
strikes
me
that,
certainly
with
the
glass
was
getting
to
recreate
it,
the
big
Advantage
there
is
going
to
be
environmentally
way
better,
because
glass
built
70
years
ago
was
leaked.
Possibly
there
was
no.
No
insulation
so
I
think
on
environmental
sustainability
viewpoint,
placing
a
glass
of
something
modern,
and
so
it
looks
the
same
of
course.
Oh,
it
would
be
something
I'd
be
strongly
in
favor
of
is
get
for
environmental
purposes.
D
That's
great
that
makes
a
big
difference.
I
really
expect
lowering
what
getting
rid
of
that
band
at
the
top
and
dropping
so
it
really
or
reflects
what
had
been
there
without
adding
the
extra
layer
on
top
of
it.
So
I,
absolutely
that
that
was
I,
think
that
was
a.
N
D
C
I'll
go
next
I'll.
Take
you
back
on
that.
That's
my
cue
I
agree
with
commission.
Tell
me
that
there's
this
lead
California
sort
of
you
know
car
statistics
sort
of
extraordinary
going.
That
is
not
being
reflected
on
the
architecture.
The
architecture
is
elegant,
might
I
add.
Thank
you
for
doing
a
good
job.
I,
like
the
the
more
opaque
facets
of
this.
It's
good
with
bird
friendly
energy
friendly,
and
all
that
so
you
know,
I
would
encourage
you
to
Valley
engineer
the
glass
A
little
bit
further
back.
C
If,
if
you
can
swing
it
just
for
the
this,
is
the
b2c2
territory
really
that
I'm
going
into
so
I.
Think,
generally
speaking,
I'm
I'm,
seeing
some
very
positive
design
moves
and
I'm
really
appreciating
I.
Think
and
excuse
me.
C
I
didn't
have
too
much
time
to
prepare
for
this,
but
like
the
one
thing
that
jumps
out
at
me,
speaking
out,
the
Google,
design
or
googie
design
is
the
fin
and
the
proportion
in
the
relationship
of
the
historics
and
to
the
mass
and
I'm
sure
he
struggled
with
this,
but
I'm
wondering
if
there
could
be
a
little
bit
more
of
a
gap
between
sort
of
the
mass
at
the
fin
or
yeah
and
I.
C
Think
it's
a
little
bit
of
what
commissional
entailment
was
touching
based
on
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
different
nature
than
what
the
building's
doing.
So
you
know
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit
torn
literally
right
wanting
to
start
to
kind
of
be
funny
and
happy
and
the
other
one
saying
like.
Oh,
no
we're
a
very
formal.
Very
very
you
know
fastidious
sort
of
building.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
conflict
there
and
I
think
the
scale
of
the
fin
is
just
completely
buried
on
the
mass
behind
it.
C
You
know
so
I
don't
know
if
a
little
Gap
would
maybe
perhaps
too
yeah
right
a
little
Gap.
So
it
stands
more
of
a
sculptural
element
on
the
front
and
not
so
much
part
of
that
building
or
you
know,
a
switch
of
materiality
around
it.
C
I
I
take
that
back,
I'll
leave
it
at
that
I'll
just
flag
that
I
think
I
really
like
the
materiality.
The
dark
masonry
I'm,
assuming
he's
a
it's
a
great
masonry
base
with
this
sort
of
lighter
colored
top,
and
then
it
goes
dark
again
at
the
recessed,
Penthouse
I.
Think
that's
a
lovely
combination
and
I
think
the
proportions
of
the
windows
of
the
masking
spray,
the
setbacks
of
the
angles.
I
was
a
little
curious
on
the
angles
on
the
route
50
side.
C
If
there
was
any
deliberateness
on
that
relative
to
solar
light,
you
know
energy
noise,
any
of
those
things
I
think
there
might
be
a
little
opportunity
to
give
you
sort
of
a
little
bit
of
a
thinking
on
that,
but
I
think
generally
very
positive
reaction
to
this
and,
if
I
think
of
anything
else
frustrate
the
chair
out
of
order.
B
Okay,
any
reply
or
response
from.
B
N
You
know
and
I'm
not
sure
which
there
were
quite
a
few
there.
So
I
guess
the
question
so,
on
the
retail
side,
I
will
say:
I
think
having
some
control
over
that
facade
being
able
to
actually
design
the
lobby
and
make
sure
it's
always
sort
of
what
we
want
it
to
be.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
value
there
versus
Cedar,
it's
a
retail
space.
N
You
know
it's
it's
you're
out,
you
don't
have
the
same
level
of
control,
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
say
that,
because
I
think
we
can
control
them
on
the
and
then
I
think
we'll
talk
about
parking
a
little
more
something
about
table
that
one.
So
just
to
talk
about
the
the
googie
architecture.
I
appreciate
the
reference
we
had
a
lot
on
looking
at
who
the
architecture-
and
you
know
googie
motels
and
the
doo-wop-
was
the
other
term
that
you
hear
a
lot.
You
know
wild
places
like
that.
N
N
I
mean
it's,
you
know
if
you've
got
the
blade
signed,
you've
got
the
lobby,
but
the
rest
of
it
is
pretty
staid
compared
to
what
you
typically
see
in
that
particular
style
and
in
some
ways
that
that
works
out
well
and
it
helps
Mary
with,
like
you
know,
the
Washington
Lee
departments,
where
there
would
be
this
crazy
contrast
that
Community
style
extended
all
the
way
out
there
and
I
think
that
was
part
of
our
intent
was
to
really
focus
that
feel
at
the
corner
and
really
try
to
focus
on
the
sign
and
the
corner
expression
and
then
try
to
really
Riff
Off.
N
The
mid-century
modern
kind
of
terms
of
you
know
a
you
know,
playing
up
this
sort
of
cool
color
palette,
also
playing
off
the
horizontality.
The
building
is
inherent,
there's
really
no
way
around
it,
and
when
we
looked
at
a
pure
horizontal
building,
which
is
often
the
case
with
this
sort
of
gooey
architecture,
it
really
becomes
a
little
bit
over.
It
becomes
much,
and
so
we
thought
the
stepping
there
to
answer
your
question.
You
know
the
stepping
was
partly
to
help
you
know,
increase
the
views
from
our
departments.
N
Also
it
it
does
sort
of
Orient
itself
a
little
more
towards
the
north.
So
there's
a
little
less
direct.
N
You
know
Blair,
but,
but
mainly
it
was
sort
of
to
break
up
the
architecture
because
it
was,
it
was
a
lot
horizontality
and
we
felt
it
really
needed
to
scale
to
be
addressed
and
highway
speed.
Also
so
I
think
that
sort
of
was
our
thinking
on
the
architecture.
N
You
know
we.
We
tried
to
do
things
that
that
still
maintain
the
horizontality.
You
know
the
one-story
window
expression
we
didn't
play
with
the
multi-story
window,
Expressions,
really
about
that
modern
story:
expression
expressing
the
bands
to
increase
the
horizontality
that
you
see
in
Century,
modern
architecture.
N
You
know,
there's
there's
more
about
that.
I'm
sure
it'll
come
up
with
some
of
these
other
questions.
So
thank.
B
You
very
much
well,
let
me
go
to
James
just
and
we'll
get
back.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
couple
questions
for
staff
kind
of
based
on
some
of
the
conversation
we're
having
so
maybe
a
question
for
for
Mr
Kreider
like
you
to
kind
of
weigh
in
on
the
kind
of
above
great
parking,
some
of
the
issues
there.
It
looks
like
there's
a
lot
of
blank
wall,
particularly
near
the
park,
so
wondering
kind
of
what
your
conversations
have
been
with
the
applicant
or
staff
stand
speaker
kind
of
weigh
in
on
on
those
that'd
be
great.
J
Well,
thank
you,
yeah,
just
having
also
participated
in
love
study.
We
made
it
very
clear
when
we
did
that
that
we
did
not
support
above
great
parking,
so
staff
is
consistently
presented
the
position
that
we
think
that
the
ground
floor
should
be
activated
and
occupied.
So
our
comments
from
the
earliest
submission
submittals
have
been
to
recommend
below
grade
parking
on
the
last
round,
recognizing
that
particularly
the
building
facing
Arlington
Boulevard
is
a
different
set
of
circumstances
that
perhaps
the
building
facing
Persian
related
to
the
garage.
J
So
thinking
about,
perhaps
thinking
about
each
one
of
them.
A
little
differently
may
lead
to
some
conclusions,
both
for
the
developer
to
adjust
their
plan,
but
also
to
work
with
them,
and
one
of
the
suggestions
which
they've
taken
up
is
sort
of
grading
up
to
along
Arlington,
Boulevard
of
sort
of
mounding
that
and
sort
of
disguising,
and
if
you
will
that's
fairly
doable
but
there's
greater
challenges
of
Persia
that
we
think
are
just.
We
can't
support
right
now
that
they've
upgraded.
D
And
you
know
it's
something
that,
through
the
sprc
processing
I
think
continues
to
evolve.
I
guess,
starting
with
Arlington
Boulevard.
You
know
one
of
the
things
to
recognize.
Is
it.
D
An
app
break
right
actually
built
into
the
grid,
so
we
sort
of
use
that
out
as
an
opportunity
for
what
you
might
consider
sort
of
walk-up
units
in
that
area,
so
sort
of
building
into
grant
in
that
area
you
wouldn't
really
get.
You
know
you
couldn't
use
that
space
for
something
or
active
at
that
point
fashion
or
Allen
could
get
into
the.
Why
of
that,
but
what
we've
tried
to
do
in
response
is
really
plus
up
the
area
around
those
staircases.
D
O
D
Trying
to
make
it
so
that
there's
really
not
blank
facade
there.
Frankly,
also
some
safety
concerns
right
like
if
you
have,
if
you
have
these
staircases
and
nothing
underneath
them
and
something
we
found
team,
you
know,
is
it
Landscaping
what
kind
of
landscaping?
Because
you
don't
want
to
thrive,
you
don't
want
it
to
die.
Give
us
a
bit
more
of
a
facade
element.
We're
working
through
it.
I'd
say
that
this
is
the
current
iteration
and
how
we
respond
to
that
on
personally.
D
I
think,
there's
a
couple
different
solutions,
a
couple
different
things
you
can
think
about
really
what
that
backs
up
to,
especially
against
the
Future
Park
is
our
bike
room,
so
there
may
be
opportunities
to
open
that
up
as
we've
done
in
other
projects.
Certainly,
there
are
examples
of
that.
This
project
team
has
worked
on
in
the
past
that
all
presents
possibly
an
opportunity
for
public
or
other
art
in
the
future.
So
it's
really!
D
You
know
there
are
certain
things
that
we
can
and
do
plan
for
in
the
sprc
process
and
certain
things
that
have
historically
been
you
know
edits
for
the
future,
so
we're
open
to
ideas
and
Solutions
in
there
I,
don't
think
you
know.
There's
anything
on
that
side
is
in
final.
D
The
only
last
point
I
think
I'd
make
in
terms
of
parking
is
the
the
study
did
not
say
no
parking,
it's
a
focus
if
you're
going
to
have
parking
at
grade
on
retail,
and
that
brings
me
to
my
last
absolute
last
point
and
I
promise.
I'll
I'll
stop
there.
The
last
thing
that
this
does
is
we've
kept
parking
completely
out
of
that
future
parking
Park
here.
So
instead
of
expanding
under
the
park
like
we've
had
in
other,
you
know
projects
you
get
a
full
depth
of
that
part.
D
You
get
a
little
filtration
for
storm
water
and
such
as
that
it
really
leaves
a
better
condition
for
the
park
in
our
opinion
into
the
future,
as
opposed
to
having
to
leave.
You
know
like
a
five
foot,
soil
depth
of
soil.
It
makes
it
harder
to
plant
things
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
that
was
the
other
kind
of
half
of
that.
Thinking
is
that's
a
public
part
for
the
future.
You
can
stay
out
of
there
entirely
by
kind
of
using
the
existing
conditions
of
the
science.
So
right.
O
That's
up
so
a
couple,
some
other
reactions
that
this
Robert's
face
off
at
so
having
led
the
lrpc
process
on
it.
The
the
lrpc
recommendation
at
the
time
was
if
you're
gonna,
it
was
definitely
too
discouraged
about
great
product.
But
if
you
were
to
have
it,
it
needs
to
be
wrapped
with
active
usage,
and
that's
not
what
you're
doing
here
so
necessarily
so
I
think
the
concern
is
you
want
to
have
eyes
on
the
street.
O
You
want
to
have
fenestration,
you
know
if,
if
it,
if
it
isn't
going
to
be
a
real
active
use
behind
that
it
used
to
look
like
an
activist,
it
needs
to
look
like
it's
an
actual.
You
know
actual
store
or
something
and
I
think
it's
a
concern,
particularly
if
you
go
into
a
park
space
and
it's
you
know
with
a
blank
facade
and
it's
dark
and
there's
no,
you
know
kind
of
eyes
on
the
street
and
it
doesn't
look
like
that.
Then
that
can
become.
Maybe
you
know
so.
O
O
You
know
I,
don't
know
Mr
Kreider,
if
it's
to
you
or
to
Mr
Schultz,
but
wondering
if
staff
has
reviewed
the
engineering
analysis
that
the
applicant
has
done.
The
historic
sign
where
you
stand
on
that
analysis.
Yeah
I've
shared
that
with.
A
Historic
preservation,
they're
fine,
with
Recreation
of
the
sign
as
long
as
it
you
know,
uses
the
same
materials
and
looks
the
same
same
thing
with
the
the
lobby.
Is
they
they
accept
that,
especially
the
sign
is
not
in
good
shape.
After
all
these
times,
it's
been
altered
many
times
that
to
even
make
it
beat
modern
code
requirements
for
wind
loads,
it
would
need
to
be
altered
beyond
recognition
anyway.
So
it's
better
to
just
start
again
and
make
it
look
at
that
they
do
feel
historic
preservation
office.
A
They
do
feel
you
know
that.
Can
we
reuse
some
of
the
materials
from
the
lot
the
existing
Lobby
there's,
apparently
some
barbell
in
there
there's
some
nice
railings,
the
railings
don't
beat
code,
the
lobby
area,
you
know
again,
that's
the
oldest
part
of
the
building
from
mid
1950s
doesn't
mean
foddered
code
and
and
as
long
as
what
we
have
here
with
the
revised
design,
looks
relatively
to
me
like
an
acceptable
alternative.
That's.
O
Helpful
and
Mr
Roberts:
what
are
your
kind
of
plans
at
this
stage
to
kind
of
reviews
materials?
You
know
kind
of
materiality.
D
Sure
you
know,
I
won't
probably
turn
to
Alan
to
talk
about
that.
A
little
bit.
I
would
just
say
that
you
know
we
did
take
a
lot
of
effort
to
look
into
this
question.
It
was
clearly
what
are
the
big
outcomes.
You
know
from
the
special
Club
study,
something
that
everybody
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
the
club
study.
Just
simply
didn't
have
the
advantage
of
you
know
sort
of
forward-looking.
We
didn't
really
have
the
advantage
of
the
research
at
the
time,
so
Alan
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
any
input.
N
On
you
know
that
you
know,
there's
anything
that
that
is
impacted
by
coach
is
typical:
yeah,
that's
materials
gift
card.
You
know
the
the
marble
I'm,
not
sure
I
did
that
one
wasn't
on
my
radar.
There's
I
think
there's
an
interesting
interior
design
elements
that
we
will
the
minimum
roof
off
of,
because
I
think
that's
like
the
design
and
I
think
there's
some
some
aspects.
Everyone
will
play
on
I
think
to
commit
to
reusing
anything
inside
the
lobby
is
probably
a
tall
look
at
it.
I
think
the
other.
N
The
one
thing
that
probably
has
a
lot
more
opportunities
to
landscape.
You
know
because
you're
less
sort
of
dictated
by
the
code
when
it
comes
to
you
know
sight
walls,
things
like
that.
It's
a
lot
of
limestone-
it's
not
Limestone,
but
things
were
to
Blackstone
feature
so
I
think
that's
something
we
have
been
thinking
about
internally.
So
there's
opportunities
there
that
that
feels
like
the
right.
O
Yeah
for
sure
Don.
Sorry,
thank
you
for
tuning
the
analysis.
I
know
that
was
a
big
part
of
the
LBC
process.
So
thank
you
for
that
I
know.
That's
we
landed
in
a
place,
maybe
we're
not
where
everybody
wanted
to,
but
I.
You
know
understanding
the
issues
with
respect
to
the
reviews
of
the
materials
there
is
an
embodied
carbon
benefit
to
potentially
trying
to
reuse
some
of
these
materials.
O
So
to
the
extent
that
you
can't
do
that,
it
also
may
help
you
with
your
lead
scorecard
and
things
like
that
for
this,
this
building,
so
something
else
to
encourage
you
beyond
just
also
the
historic
aspect,
there's
also
some
other
potential
and
intended.
You
know
unintended
for
other
potential
benefits
here.
That
I
would
encourage
you
to
consider,
but
thank
you,
commissioner,.
B
I
wanted
to
turn
to
Adam
from
Parks
and
Rec
commission
to
give
your
overall
feedback
or,
if
you
specifically
want
to
address
your
thoughts
about
the
architecture
surrounding
the
Future
Park
and
how
much
should
be
activated
in
what
ways
I'd
love
to
hear
about.
That
too
sure.
F
So,
thank
you.
It's
my
first
meeting
with
you
guys
so
I'm
I
did
look
at
the
presentation
stuff.
You
know
that
so
it's
really
nice
to
see
the
the
additional
biophilia
coverage
on
the
site.
You
have
a
couple
questions
about
that.
So
what
is
the
square
footage
of
the
African
work,
but
easement
it'll
be
about
10
about
ten
thousand
yeah?
Okay
and
then
what
is
the
the
percentage
of
five
year
coverage
now
on
the
on
the
site?.
D
P
I
can
good
evening
and
starting
my
life
is
pretty
poor
here
in
my
living
room,
see
if
that's
better
good
evening.
Can
you
repeat
the
question,
please
sure.
F
J
F
For
by
exactly
I
mean
I
mean
I
mean
pervious
and
impervious
is
it's
kind
of
hard
to
match
up?
What
I'm
looking
for
is
how
much
of
it
is
either
park,
space
or
or
by
affiliate
coverage
landscaping.
P
And
yeah
I
think
that
yeah,
the
biophilic
we're
trying
to
we
continue
to
craft
a
story
and
I
think
the
the
site
has
a
lot
of
potential
and
part
and
had
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
benefits.
It's
an
incredible
Corner.
The
added
setback
that
Arlington
Boulevard
offers
in
it.
It
benefits
the
site
from
the
biophilia
standpoint,
because
we
have
an
enhanced
streetscape.
P
Pershing
Drive
will
have
a
enhanced
the
streetscape
that
complies
with
Arlington
standards
and
in
a
more
urban
setting,
which
we
have
a
frontage
and
we
have
the
access
and
the
vehicular
way.
The
park
itself,
like
Matt
said,
is
10
000
or
they're
about
square
feet
will
be
mostly
dedicated
to
Green
Space
and,
of
course,
there
will
be
walkways
and
sidewalks
that
lead
to
in
from
retail
around
the
corner
by
the
Wayne
Avenue
and
then
the
interface
with
the
southern
property.
P
That
will
be
also
an
enhanced
sort
of
landscape
at
a
different
sort
of
calibration,
because
there's
a
thank
you
for
bringing
the
graphics
so
I'm
I'm
doing
like
this
with
my
with
my
hands,
and
so
as
you
can
see
just
from
the
graphic,
it's
a
very
green.
It's
a
it's
an
envelope
by
Green
in
different
sort
of
modalities,
based
on
what
the
project
or
what
that
facade
or
what
that
Frontage
looks
like
as
far
as
percentage
I,
don't
have
it
from
the
top
of
my
head
from
previous
and
impervious
I'm
sure
it's
been
calculated.
P
We
can
give
you
an
answer
shortly
or
soon.
Thereafter,
this
meeting
the
ballophilia
story.
What
we
are
trying
to
enhance
here,
oh
and
I,
forgot
to
say:
if
you
see
that
kind
of
that
corner
of
Boulevard
or
Arlington
Boulevard
and
Pershing,
it's
a
fairly
pronounced
setback
from
the
right
away,
all
the
way
to
the
corner,
which
allows
us
to
add
even
more
plantain,
more
Greenery,
more
gardens,
more
elements
of
biophilia,
and
it
has
to
do
with
natural
elements.
Layering
of
the
landscape,
seasonal
interest.
P
You
know
making
sure
that
even
in
the
dead
of
the
winter
in
February
all
the
landscape
stands.
You
know
viable
and
vibrant
and
do
all
these
things
that
what
we
as
pedestrians
love
to
see.
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
still
crafting
the
story.
How
the
sensory
experience
is
enhanced
through
the
side
and
like
I,
said
in
the
different
facets
and
in
frontages
of
the
property
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
I
think
we're
still
going
to
try
to.
P
We
have
identify
our
goals,
which
are
very
similar
to
obviously
in
following
the
policies
of
Arlington
County
when
it
comes
to
biophilic
design
and
we're
hoping
that
we
can
make
you
all
proud,
I
think
we're
still
working
on.
What
are
those
elements
specifically,
but
hopefully,
I
can
I
already
gave
you
a
framework
of
that.
B
F
Perfect,
thank
you
much
yeah.
Thank
you
except
what
other
other
quick
questions
that
obviously
we'll
focus
on
the
building,
mostly
the
park
design
process
for
this
I'm
new
to
the
sgrc.
How
does
that?
How
does
that
work
is
that?
Is
that
something
that's
going
to
be
turned
over
to
the
county
process?
Yes,.
G
Sign
in
lobby
or
sort
of
being
deemed
unusual,
basically
so
I
guess
the
I
used
to
just
ask
the
question
just
kind
of
put
it
out
there
I
mean
in
terms
of
this
the
side
itself.
I
think
the
design
is
potentially
I
mean
maybe
unusable,
but
also
that's
one
answer.
That's
a
question:
is
there
any
possibility,
but
actually
we're
using
the
science
and
it's
sort
of
like
basically
reinforcing
signs
or
as
it's
now
I
mean
it
is
I
mean
it
is
standing
I
mean
I
realized
it
may
be
standing
by.
G
D
Short
answer
is,
you
know,
based
on
everything
that
we
know
is
no
without
warping
the
panel,
without
basically
putting
it
back
in
a
way
that
you
wouldn't
really
recognize
today.
So
the
the
consultant
that
we
hired
is
a
group
that
does
this
pretty
much
exclusively
historic
preservation.
Engineering
is
really
what
they
do.
In
fact,
they
came
at
the
recommendation
of
some
of
the
folks
on
the
building
code,
appeals
board.
D
So
you
know
they
do
this
frequently
in
DC,
and
you
know
what
Virginia
as
well,
which
is
why
we
chose
them
so
when,
when
they
went
out
and
looked
at
the
signing,
the
sign
in
particular,
you
know
the
lobby
has
its
own
issues.
But
when
you
read
the
report,
you
get
the
real
sense
that
if
you
were
to
dismantle
with
that
structure,
paid
that.
L
D
J
M
D
G
Yeah,
that's
okay,
I
guess
with
that
and
I
guess.
So
the
sort
of
new
Sun
sort
of
sort
of
a
new
song
came
up
here.
Is
it
the
same
size
as
a
current
sign,
or
is
it
a
little
bit
bigger
smaller?
Is
it
okay,
I
think
I
think
I
I
would
sort
of
piggyback
on
on?
What
can
we
share
it
on
and
tell
me
like?
We
should
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
get
this
sign
up
a
little
bit
more
of
a
free
feel
from
the
building
I.
G
Probably
your
your
sort
of
lead,
you
know
energy
Target.
So
let's
begin
with
enough
Force
taking
your
debt
and
that's
awesome,
that's
something
that
could
be
very
very
easily,
but
one
point
that
hasn't
been
touched
on.
G
Is
there
any
discussion
right
now
with
brother
or
pose
actually
include
some
sort
of
sort
of
a
historical
interpreted,
signage
or
sort
of
a
marker,
or
some
sort
of
something
something
explaining
what
what
was
your
previously
that
actually
part
of
maybe
the
site
package
potentially
worth
it
or
somewhere
on
that
site?
This
is
sort
of
snow.
D
I
mean
it's
certainly
a
possibility.
I
won't
tell
you
that
we've
had
any
deep
discussions
on
where
we're
going
to
build
a
consultation
with
staff
and
jlrb
and
others
there's
a
lot
of
space
on
building
where
it
is
used.
Something
like
that
certainly
called
out
and
study.
So
it's
it's
not
something
we're
unfamiliar
with.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
Larry.
Is
there
anybody
who's
an
sprc
member
who
hasn't
gotten
a
chance
to
share
yet.
I
Kate
Donahue
from
forestry
and
natural
resources,
I'm
sure
I'll
have
a
lot
more
to
say
the
next
meeting,
but
just
a
couple
of
things.
First
of
all,
we
really
appreciated
the
expansion
on
the
southern
side
and
the
way
you
know
at
the
park
areas
and
everything
that
you're
trying
to
do
to
take
as
much
of
the
area
Landscapes
as
possible.
I
think
it's
good
Thrill
is
going
to
add
a
lot
I
really
like
all
the
evening.
Spaces.
I
I
hope
that,
however,
that
garage
is
that
that
building's
going
to
be
there
for
a
long
time
that
there's
some
thought
given
to
how
you
can
easily
in
the
future.
You
know
expand
even
more
spaces
so
that,
as
EBS
become
more
and
more
used
faces
can
be
added,
so
people
juice
up
their
cars.
The
one
question
a
couple
of
us
got
get
this
big
conversation
about
bird
friendly
collapse
and
I'm,
not
really
sure
what
the
Arlington
standard
is
for
that.
I
But
our
feeling
is
that
we
need
to
have
it
on
the
lower
levels,
but
also
where
we're
going
to
have
big
canopy
trees
and
for
that's
near
the
glass
it
needs
to
be
at
the
higher
levels
and
looking
at
your
drawings
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
just
for
the
drawings
or
if
this
is
how
it's
an
actual
rendition.
I
But
it
looks
like
you
have
container
trees
at
various
levels
and
if
you're
going
to
have
trees
at
those
levels
that
are
near
glass,
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
have
the
bird
friendly
glass
there
as
well
and
just
one
other
thing
which
I'm
sure
I'll
mention
next
time
too.
But
I'm
going
to
throw
it
out
here
before
we
talk
about
the
landscape.
I
I
would
encourage
as
many
large
canopy
trees
as
possible.
This
space
Arlington
is
losing
its
big
canopy
trees
right
and
left
a
lot
of
reasons
for
it.
We've
been
trying
to
plant
trees,
but
it's
going
to
be
forever.
They
get
to
be
big,
but
the
more
that
we
can
do
better.
So
as
you're
looking
at
your
Landscaping
put
in
your
big
canopy
trees,
you
can
always
do
your
understory
trees,
the
flowers,
your
dogwoods
and
red
bugs,
and
do
your
you
know
your
forbs
and
your
perennials,
and
that
kind
of
thing.
I
But
the
fnrc
will
be
really
happy
if
you
could
really
focus
on
those
canopy
trees
and
especially
for
the
street
trees.
I,
don't
know
if
you've
given
thought
to
having
the
soil
containers
under
the
sidewalks
so
that
we
can
there's
also
some
honeycombing
Vincent
the
urban
Forester.
I
Can
you
know
redo
the
book
on
that,
but
it
can
make
a
huge,
huge
difference
on
whether
Street
trees
can
actually
survive
in
that
environment
and
actually
grow
to
be
big,
and
you
know
kind
of
be
the
presence
that
we
would
so
I
know
all
of
that
kind
of
cascade
built
in
front.
So
that's
why
I'm
bringing
it
up.
B
Great
now
go
to
Chris
for
talking
on
building
form
and
architecture
and
I
think
we
have
Leo
as
a
last
comment
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
transportation.
Sarah
I
have
one
question:
I'll
just
wait:
oh
okay,
Leah.
C
Architecture
question
all
right:
I
was
I,
didn't
talk
about
the
Wilson
Boulevard
side
and
then,
when
commissioner
started
talking
about
the
parking
it'll
still
close
out,
sorry
sorry,
the
route
50
50
50.,
my
bad,
probably
very
alert
that
was
a
test
for
alertness.
C
I
did
I'm
very
skeptical
of
that
little
balcony
with
those
stairs
and
debris
sort
of
getting
blown
under
there.
You
know
animals
developing
little
cocoons
or
whatever
I
think
that
needs
to
be
developed
a
little
bit
more
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that
becomes
part
of
the
residence
and
entrance
if
it's
fenced
off
at
the
balcony.
C
C
C
I
C
It
could
be
wrong.
My
architecture,
history
Professor,
could
be
totally
wrong.
It's
great
right
now,
but
nonetheless
I
do
appreciate
that
our
reference.
You
know
the
analysis
diagrams,
but
they're
always
up
516.
If
you
can
pull
it
up,
16.
C
Sure,
okay
I
see
so
what
happens
under
there,
I
guess
if
the
next
question,
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
you,
know,
put
some
sort
of-
and
this
might
be
on
the
next
yeah
see
if
you
can
put
some
bio
retention
or
you
know
water
retention,
tanks
under
there
in
storm
water,
I
don't
know
so
and
again
you
don't
have
to
answer.
That's
just
sort
of
flagging
that,
because.
N
But
I
think
it
was
our
intent
to
not.
If
somebody
could
like
you
know,
like.
C
N
E
E
But
if
there's
materials
that
can
be
salvaged
and
are
of
you
know
historic
value
or
would
be
useful
to
someone
else,
I'd
like
to
see
that
those
get
repurposed
to
someone
else,
if
you
guys,
if
it
can't
be
used
with
the
site,
so
I'd
like
to
you,
know,
see
a
plan
or
kind
of
what
that
would
look
like
in
terms
of
minimizing
our
waste
impact.
In
a
way
that
you
can
you.
E
Not
the
sign
another
there's
more
material
I
decide,
Maybe
I'll
find
fillerby
is
okay
with
a
you
know,
historically
accurate
Recreation
of
that
who
am
I
to
say
otherwise
for
a
sign
that
would
otherwise
disintegrate,
but
the
other
materials
it
sounds
like
there
might
be.
I
think
it's
worth
the
conversation
to
figure
out.
If
there
is
material
of
value
there
and
should
be
a
nice
donation
to
some
entity,
sure
something
yeah.
H
D
You
a
couple
first
of
one:
do
you
want
to
say
do
like
the
Sawtooth
Arlington
Boulevard?
That's
really
brick.
If
it
looks
it's
different,
it
looks
the
the
vault
is
being
moved.
The
Transformers
moving
it
from
the
south
end
is
good.
It
really
does
make
a
difference.
Having
those
extra
windows
there
I
think
that
will
be
built
for
security
purposes.
It
just
looks
better
too
yeah,
you're
moving
it
to
underneath
on
person.
Drive,
that's
fine,
but
the
renderings
show
that
there
are
still
two
trees
there.
N
Bolt
so
that's
mean
that
there
is
a
requirement
s
we
have
utilities.
Lids
are
not
looking
at
the
whole
ball.
It's
just
a
couple
10
by
12
rules.
I
think
our
10
would
be
to
have
landscape
about
that
I.
Think
John
Elkins
treats
John
L,
or
do
you
have
a
pipe
in
here.
R
Hi
Alan
I
am
able
to
pipe
in.
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
and
can
you
please
restate
the
question
exactly
about
the
Transformers
okay.
R
D
Renderings
that
you've
been
showing
still
have
a
couple
of
trees.
That
would
be
right
next
to
the
wall
there
between
the
street
and
and
look
where
this
and
the
side
of
those
bolts
will
be
are
those
was
that
an
artifact
of
the
the
earlier
rendition,
or
will
those
trees
in
fact
be
able
to
be
still
there
with
the
Vault
underneath
great.
R
Question
and
so
Alan
started
to
talk
about
that
five
foot
utility-free
zone.
So
basically,
what
you
have
is
the
vault
is
about
17
feet,
deep
17
feet
itself
and
if
you
have
five
feet
of
dirt,
on
top
of
it,
the
bottom
of
the
volts
at
22
feet.
So
what
happens
is
in
between
every
lift
out
panel?
We
can
put
a
street
tree
there
and
five
feet
of
soil
and
that's
a
you
know
in
commissioner.
That's
a
pretty
common
thing.
You've
seen
that
all
over
the
county.
R
Now,
the
last
you
know
Dozen
Years
15
years,
so
you
can't
put
them
on
top
of
the
lift
out
panels,
but
in
between
lift
up
panels
about
27
feet
on
Center.
Generally
speaking,
so
the
answer
is
yes.
The
drawing
was
correct
and
there'd
be
some
trees
in
between
the
lift
out
panels.
So
we
have
to
artfully
place
the
lift
out
panels
with
respect
to
how
the
tree
grows.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay.
So
now
I'd
like
to
move
on
to
our
next
topic
of
discussion.
Transportation.
If
you
have
further
comments
about
building
permanent
architecture,
we
will
have
a
final
comments
section
at
the
end
of
the
evening,
so
you
can
still
make
a
comment
about
that.
But
now
we'll
talk
about
Transportation,
so
this
could
be
parking
parking
garages.
The
staff
concern
about
the
above
grade
parking
pick
up,
drop
off
loading,
docks
pedestrians
agency
around
the
site,
protected
bike,
Lanes
EV
parking,
the
transit
stop.
B
D
Three
questions,
but
I
think
are
all
really
played.
The
special
Club
study
talked
about
this
site
should
make
some
improvements
to
the
bus.
Stop
that's
there
on
Arlington,
Boulevard,
but
actually
I.
Think
maybe
we've
changed
our
routes
so
that
that
bus
stop
is
no
longer
serviced
by
any
buses,
but.
D
D
Is
there
any
detail
yet
on
what
the
vertical
separation
is
going
to
be
protected
by
the
way?
There
are
two
small
terms,
but
the
rest
of
it
is
just
currently
shown
this
kind
of
striped
buffer
area.
G
R
Actually,
we
had
a
really
good
meeting
with
Dennis
Sullen
last
week
to
talk
about
this
exact
issue
and
we're
looking
at
a
couple
of
different
options.
One
is
we're
going
to
keep
the
existing
curves
where
they
are
both
on
the
North
and
on
our
side
as
well.
What
we
talked
about
was
having
bike
Lanes.
Is
it
it's
yet
to
be
determined?
You
can
see
the
striped
areas
there.
R
Those
are
about
three
feet
wide
and
we
talked
about
you
know
they
and
we've
had
a
conversation
also
with
with
the
fire
department
about
this
as
well,
and
we
talked
about
you
know,
should
we
have
raised
concrete
curbs
in
between
those
or
what
should
it
be,
but
basically
we
talked
about
a
three
foot
wide
spacing
the
striped
area.
There.
F
R
That
we're
probably
we're
probably
leaning
towards
those
concrete
raised
curbs,
but
they
have
to
be
mountable
for
a
fire
truck
and
also
I'm
very
concerned
about
drainage
with
those
as
well.
So
we'd
have
something
with
like
openings
below
them
so
that
you
know
water
can
flow
through
them
to
the
curbs.
R
So
so
Dennis
you
were
talking
about.
As
we
said,
you
know
those
mountable
curbs
and
this
conversation
needs
to
be
had
with
the
fire
marshal
as
well.
His
concern
was
having,
if
you
have
the
paddles,
for
example,
you
know
he's
concerned
about
having
a
fire
truck
run
over
those
things
and
because
what
it
might
do
to
the
damage
in
the
bottom
of
his
truck.
So
it's
kind
of
a
work
in
progress
right
now
to
determine
exactly
but
probably
I'm
thinking,
four
and
a
half
inch
tall,
concrete
curbs
separating
the
travel
Lanes
from
the
bikes.
F
R
D
Know
the
fire
marshal
disapproved
in
the
past
so
yeah.
Those
are
my
questions.
I
will
just
throw
a
couple
quick
comments
in
as
long
as
I'm
here
strongly
supported.
Oh
pbls,
on
both
sides
of
perfect
Drive
is
an
off-site
Transportation
benefit.
D
If
there's
a
list,
that's
even
charged
I
would
love
to
see
some
trail
amenities
in
the
plaza
at
Arlington
Boulevard
in
Pershing,
I'm,
really
afraid
it's
going
to
end
up
feeling
exactly
like
the
plaza
directly
across
Persian
Drive,
which
you
never
see
anybody
in
it's
hard
to
even
just
like
meet
someone
there,
because
none
of
the
benches
face
each
other
like
it's
very
also
really
feels,
like
a
plaza.
D
That's
designed
to
keep
people
away,
I
hope,
I,
hope
this
one
will
be
better
and
I
think
you
know
having
some
stuff
that
people
go
there
to
do,
whether
it's
rebuilding
a
water
bottle
or
pumping
up
a
bike.
Tire
or
you
know
getting.
I
D
To
sit
across
from
each
other
and
God
forbid
a
table
even
if
there
isn't
a
coffee
shop
right
there
to
buy
it
from
awesome
and
calling
that
Transportation,
because
it's
activity
for
the
trail
we'll
talk
about
it
again
in
space
next
time
and
I
really
applaud
the
architecture
that
faces
the
trail,
the
entrances,
the
Your
Design
stairs
the
Landscaping,
the
potential
Brewing.
We
talked
a
lot
about.
You
know
what
does
trail-oriented
architecture
look
like
and
how
can
we
increase
the
safety
of
the
trails
through
that
design?
D
I
think
that
just
really
gets
it
excited
to
see
it.
So
that's
all.
B
O
After
some
question
two
questions,
and
then
it
gets
a
comment
so
on
the
site,
circulation,
slide.
I
think
it's
your
slide.
42
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
that.
O
Running
off
of
swaying
busy
intense
to
have
left
in
right
out.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
okay,
so
then,
is
this
slide
being
correct?
If
there's
a
left
out
of
point.
D
O
Okay,
because
I
I
saw
sort
of
that
projected
pedestrian
Crossing
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
wasn't
intending
to
not
on
the
cross-section
if
it's
12
years,
okay,
it's
a
good
catch.
Okay,
just
wanted
to
understand,
and
then
on
the
Ed
parking
figure
your
intended
to
provide
eight
EV
parking
spaces,
so
eight
people
ESC
and
then
23,
maybe
ready
spaces.
Correct.
O
O
So
it's
probably
more
like
20,
bbse
and
more
like
half
of
your
parking
spaces
that
you
need
to
keep.
Thank
you
be
ready.
The
rationale
for
that
is
that
is
up
to
six
times
more
expensive
to
rehab
a
building
at
it
later,
and
so
it's
better
to
just.
Do
it
now,
understanding
that
you
know,
there's
concerns
with
additional
electrical
capacity,
and
things
like
that,
it's
still
more
expensive,
so
I
would
encourage
you
to.
D
Try
to
do
as
much
as
you
can
maybe
sure
one
one
thing
that
will
we're
continuing
to
look
at,
especially
as
we
move
the
full
from
the
south
end
into
Pershing.
Are
there
opportunities
you
know
to
increase
the
size
of
that
both
slightly,
for
you
know
something:
that's
Future
Ready,
it's
it's
in
consideration.
I
can't
say
that
we
hit.
You
know
a
50
overall
I
think
that
would
be
difficult,
but
yeah,
it's
you
know
it's
on
our
minds.
Okay,
that's
good
thanks!
That's
all.
B
K
Hi
everyone
again
I'm
Lizzie
Gallagher
from
The
Pedestrian
advisory
committee.
This
is
my
first
sprc,
so
thank
you
learning
a
lot
having
a
great
time,
so
the
questions
I
have
are
specifically
around
the
Muse
area.
The
shared
use
Trail
there
so
I
noticed
that
we
that,
on
the
flow
diagrams,
we
have
cars
going
in
both
directions
and
it's
also
a
bike
access
point
to
get
all
the
way
through
the
trail
and
there's
also
pedestrians.
K
At
least
those
exiting
the
the
like
town
home
units
kind
of
that
face
that
Muse
area,
and
so
the
only
detail
I
saw
in
the
in
the
documents,
was
about
kind
of
using
non-traditional
Paving
and
that
it
would
all
be
kind
of
at
the
same
grade.
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
speak
more
to
steps
that
are
being
taken.
K
It
just
seems
like
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
uses
and
when
there's
a
lot
of
uses,
typically
that
the
fastest
and
biggest
users
win
just
wondering
if
you
could
maybe
speak
to
the
conditions
that
your
planning
on
implementing
to
keep
that
a
safe
space
for
all
users,
especially
our
most
vulnerable
Road
users,.
D
As
she's
coming
online
I
think
the
important
piece
to
remember
is
that
the
shared
Muse,
what
goes
into
it
you
know,
comes
directly
out
of
the
plus
studying
a
call
to
really
connect
the
trail
to
the
neighborhood.
So
the
idea
that
not
just
you
know
secondary
access
to
take
some
of
the
pressure
off
of
the
person
entrance,
but
also
you
know
an
opportunity
to
not
have
everybody
had
to
go
around
the
site
to
reconnect
the
trail
so
yeah,
yes
again,
so.
P
Thanks
Matt
for
that,
and
thank
you
for
bringing
a
diagram
or
a
graphic
that
shows
a
little
bit
of
detail
so
that
we
can
describe
it
a
little
bit.
Better
is
the
next
one.
So,
yes
to
Matt's,
Point
you're
right,
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
convergence
of
different
uses
at
different
times,
but
this
is
let's
bear
in
mind
that
this
is
a
load,
low,
speed,
low
traffic
area.
Only
the
residents
they
are.
You
know
part
of
coming
in
and
out
of
their
you
know
the
units
are
to
walk
through
and
drop
off.
P
You
know
occasional
drop
off
that
kind
of
thing,
but
it
certainly
should
not
compare
to
just
a
normal
public
Street.
We
are
anticipating
a
differentiated
Paving,
as
you
can
see
in
this
illustration
to
provide
pedestrians
to
a
path
of
Refuge
that
is
different
from
the
Cars,
even
though
it's
supposed
to
be
a
shared
street.
P
So
at
the
end
of
the
day,
as
you
can
see,
the
person
walking
the
dog
and
someone
else-
I
mean
it's
it's
to
be
mostly
dominated,
or
at
least
a
welcoming
all
kinds
of
people
and,
at
the
same
time
be
safe.
P
The
to
the
to
address
the
comments
on
the
quantity
and
quality
of
landscape
in
this
in
this
area,
the
Stoops
outside
of
the
of
those
units
have
been
increased
in
the
not
necessarily
in
square
foot,
well
total,
but
the
the
level
and
and
density
of
the
Landscaping
as
well,
to
provide
a
a
much
more
amenitized
sort
of
pedestrian
experience.
So
at
the
end
of
the
day,
will
be
a
combination
of
textural
Paving
to
in
announce
a
little
bit
of
a
not
quite
a
rumble
strip,
but
something
that
has
texture.
P
So
it
advises
vehicular
sort
of
drivers
to
go
a
little
slower,
potentially
some
signage,
the
differentiated
Paving
between
The
Pedestrian,
only
and
the
shared
environment,
and
then
certainly
having
that
scale
between
the
buffer
side,
between
the
southern
property
and
in
our
project
and
the
Stoops
to
have
as
much
landscape
as
the
part.
The
that's
it
as
it's
possible
good
due
to
soil
volume
availability.
So,
hopefully,
with
a
combination
of
all
of
these,
and
not
hopefully,
I
mean
that
is
a
standard
and
or
that's
our
I
intended
approach.
P
And
we
will
continue
to
study
to
make
sure
that
that's
as
safe
as
as
it
needs
to
be.
K
Wonderful
I
said
two
quick
follow-ups
about
that.
Thank
you
for
your
answer.
So
the
the
two
other
primary
concerns.
K
Besides
the
the
treatment,
is
it's
a
it's
a
90
degree
angle
there,
and
especially
if
we
have
wonderful,
Landscaping,
I'm,
just
worried
about
the
visibility
of
cars
coming
around
the
corner,
and
you
know
bikes
or
pedestrians
kind
of
going
through
to
access
the
trail
so
just
kind
of
wanting
to
raise
that
concern
of
lack
of
visibility
and
kind
of
going
around
that
corner
and
then
the
second
is
that
opening
to
the
trail
looks
quite
inviting-
and
you
know
we
want
it.
K
It
could
be
confusing
in
the
in
the
diagrams.
I
was
surprised
not
to
see
kind
of
metal,
bollards
or
other
physical
barriers
that
would
prevent
you
know
a
very
confused
driver
from
entering
onto
the
trail,
using
that
nice
wide
entrance.
P
That's
a
very
good
point.
You
make
the
on
the
answer
on
the
first
question
will
be
fully
addressed
and
there
are
side
distances,
side,
triangles
setbacks
and
all
kinds
of
standards
that
keep
us
from
having
the
problems
that
you
just
mentioned
on
the
intersection,
so
we'll
make
sure
that
those
are
fully
compliant.
The
Ballers
that
you
mentioned.
P
We
study
the
layout
and
maybe
elements
that
we
add
on
as
this
process
continues
and
we
take
on
feedback
we're
still
trying
to
make
sure
that
that
space
is
inviting
and
at
the
same
time
not
the
confused
drivers.
So
very
good
point
raised
if
it's
not
in
the
renderings,
it's
because
we
probably
haven't
gotten
to
that
detail.
But
we'll
take
your
comment.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
L
B
L
You
I.
L
Wondering
to
begin
with,
I
have
a
question
and
and
then
some
comments.
L
My
question
is:
have
you
taken
the
opportunity
to
perhaps
walk
the
route
of
travel
that
a
pedestrian
would
take
from
the
building
to
public
transit,
going
both
East
and
West,
because
I
noted
that
you
talked
about
the
foray
bus
route
and
and
and
the
bus
stop
out
on
Arlington
Boulevard,
but
but
I
I
didn't
hear
you
talk
about
the
path
to
travel,
to
a
bus,
stop
that
would
be
going
eastbound
towards
courthouse
and
and
Roslyn
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
taken
the
opportunity
to
both
walk
that
and
roll
that
using
a
manual
wheelchair.
M
M
L
Ion
with
a
blind
person
or
a
person
with
a
significant
Vision
impairment,
because,
for
example,
if
I
was
a
pedestrian
coming
from
that
building,
I
would
go
out
to
the
Arlington
Boulevard
stop
to
go
westbound
to
Seven
Corners
or
you
know
Arlington
forest
or
wherever.
L
But
if
I
was
going
in
town
right
now,
given
the
condition
of
the
sidewalks
and
and
the
rooting
of
buses,
I
would
I
would
probably
take
a
bus
from
either
on
Pershing
Drive
on
a
you
know,
across
George,
Mason
and
and
take
a
bus
from
from
Pershing,
Drive
or
I.
L
Closer
route
to
go
to
Pershing
or
even
to
go
up
at
Hunter
at
Henderson
and
George
Mason
and
catch
a
bus,
but
so
with
that
in
mind,
I
also
want
to
suggest
that
you
take
a
look
at
the
sidewalk
with
and
and
if
you're
going
to
expand
them
or
not.
But
more
importantly,
I
would
like
you
to
take
a
second
look
at
think
about
having
projected
protected
bike
Lanes
up
there
on
Pershing
Drive,
because
Pershing
is
not
that
big,
a
street
number
one
number
two
having
bicycle
Lanes
crop.
L
You
know
where
you
have
to
go
past.
The
protected
bicycle
lane,
with
with
a
wall
and
and
navigate
as
a
blind
person
to
cross
the
street
is,
is,
is
actually
quite
dangerous
and
then
you're
going
to
also
allow
micro
Mobility
devices,
which
will
make
it
a
very,
very
confusing
situation
for
pedestrians
with
disabilities.
L
And
so
we
we've
had
this
discussion
on
a
number
of
occasions
about
various
protect
protected
bike,
Lanes
at
the
disability
commission
meetings
and
and
particularly
when
the
topic
came
up,
also
in
Crystal,
City
and
and
and
we
have
our
our
concerns
about
that.
But
in
a
kind
of
small
I'm
going
to
call
it
a
kind
of
small
residential
area
like
the
one
up
where
the
arva
is
I'm,
I'm
very
concerned
about
that,
and
then
the
other
comment
that
I
have
is
that
the
I
think
the
building
does
need?
L
Where
is
it?
Are
you
going
to
have
a
drive
up
at
the
building?
You
drive
a
pickup
for
now
for
for
pedestrians
and
residents
of
their
buildings,
who
might
be
coming
there
on
taxi
or
or
Uber
or
Paratransit
like
star
or
Mentor
access.
Are
you
going
to
have.
M
M
It's
on
the
Pershing
Drive
side
kind
of
mid,
mid
Block!
It's
if
you
could
see
the
screen!
It's
this,
where
my,
where
my
mouse
is
that
there's
it's
between
the
lobby
and
the
retail
equivalent
space
North
facing.
D
D
Within
the
interior
of
the
site,
so
it's
off-pershing
Drive
again
on
the
southern
side
of
Pershing
directly
and
facing
out
from
the
lobby.
So
you
have
an
access
point
directly
into
into
a
way
by
area.
L
So,
and-
and
that's
is
that
that's
going
to
be
a
security
system,
protected
door.
F
Back
is
covered
to.
N
L
I'm
wondering
if
that's
going
to
be
an
automatic
door
that
opens
required.
You.
B
L
So
those
are
those
are
the
things
that
I'm
thinking
of
in
terms
of
path
of
travel,
from
the
building
to
public
transportation
and
to
pedestrian
infrastructure
there
to
walk
around
the
community
and
such
because
there's
also
shopping
up
there
on
Pershing
Drive
that
people
can
Avail
themselves
of
soon
I'm
really
concerned
and
I
know
that
I
know
a
number
of
blind
friends
of
mine
who
have
lived
down
there
in
that
building
and
also
wheelchair
you're
here.
So
you
know
it's
it's
not
it's!
L
It's
it's
a
reality,
because,
because
it's
not
it's
not
speculation
that
people
with
disabilities
are
going
to
live
there,
because
the
location
is
so
ideal
for
somebody
who
doesn't
drive
because
of
their
disability
because
of
the
transportation
and
also.
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
comments.
I
appreciate
it
perfect.
Is
there
anybody
else
in
the
room
that
wants
to
talk
or
ask
a
question,
or
has
it
been
without
transportation,
yeah.
H
All
right,
this
is
my
more
of
my
bicycle
committee
hat.
You
guys
are
going
from
like
four
curb
Cuts
right
now
on
the
site
to
I'm
thinking
about
anytime,
there's
a
perpendicular
event
possible
between
a
car
and
a
pedestrian
or
a
bike,
I'm
counting
like
18
of
them.
In
the
new
plan,
you
got
12
parking
spots
at
back
up
into
pedestrian
and
bicycle
areas.
You've
got
the
two
curb
cuts
of
the
street.
You've
got
two
parking
garages
and
the
loading
dock
and
all
those
are
perpendicular
interfaced
with
pedestrian
walkways.
H
That's
one
of
the
reasons.
I
think
the
parking
needs
to
be
underground
needs
to
be
one
single
access
to
the
garage.
We
know
where
it
is
we're
not
having
cars
everywhere
and
bicycles
and
pedestrians
everywhere,
overlapping
in
so
many
different
possible
places
below
ground
and
I'd
really
like
to
see
the
parking
extend
it
to
under
the
whole
building
on
P2.
Instead
of
just
have
to
get
the
pardon
ratio
up,
get
them
down
from
below
the
surface.
At
least.
E
H
Long
as
you
mentioned,
the
biker
might
follow
up
I.
Think
the
bike
room's
at
the
wrong
spot
I
think
it
should
be
in
that
anterior
Road
instead
of
up
along
the
park.
If
I'm
coming
off
the
trail,
I'm
coming
to
a
road
I'd
like
to
go
to
the
Bike
Room
right
from
there
not
go
and
have
to
go
through
the
park
and
whatever
that
park
looks
like
I,
think,
there's
space
that
storage,
room
or
whatever
I'm
not
sure
the
best
place,
but
it
seems
the
wrong
place
to
be
Paul
Parker.
A
Yeah
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
no
matter
where
the
Bike
Room
ends
up,
where
it
is
right
near
the
elevation.
You
have
it
up
against
the
park.
It
is
kind
of
a
blank
Gap
in
between
the
retail
and
the
residential
units
on
the
south.
So
if
there's
always
a
swap
the
Bike
Room
Somewhere
Else
and
put
residential
units
on
that
area
or
expand
the
retail
yeah
or
expand
the
retail
yeah.
B
N
Yeah
I
believe
they're
short-term
parking
at
the
entry
on
Arlington
Boulevard.
We
have
a
secondary
entry,
there's
some
that
are
close
to
the
retail
space
in
the
park.
Okay,.
B
Well,
then,
we
can
move
to
the
final
comments
portion
of
our
agenda,
which
I
just
like
to
do
a
quick
round
robin
and
everybody
can
take
a
minute
to
just
kind
of
say
your
final
thoughts
on
anything
we've
discussed
tonight:
building
Forum
architecture
Transportation,
but
before
we
kind
of
wrap
up
and
do
public
comments,
so,
commissioner,
Steinberger,
can
we
start
with
you
sure.
E
I've
enjoyed
the
evolution
of
the
sign
and
sort
of
where
we've
kind
of
come
to
I
think
we're
improved
in
a
very
positive
direction.
I
I
sort
of
like
the
thin
I
won't
get
involved
whether
or
not
it's
prominent
enough.
I
like
it
bye
I'm
pleased
to
know
that
it
is
a
standard
site
condition
that
we
do
to
repurpose
materials.
I
did
not
realize
that
I
should
have
exposed.
E
So
thank
you
for
educating
me
and
I
yeah
I
think
that
the
question
about
sort
of
parking
above
grade
is
always
going
to
kind
of
come
back
and
I'm,
not
necessarily
satisfied
with
where
we
are
at
with
this.
So
I
do
think
that's
going
to
be
something
that
I'm
looking
for
as
this
comes
before
the
Planning
Commission.
Ultimately,
that's
something
that
I'm.
E
It
is
an
area
of
concern
for
me
and
something
that
I
think
will
get
a
lot
of
attention
from
not
just
but
other
planning
Commissioners,
so
I
trust
that
there
may
be
some
evolution
in
terms
of
masking
or
sort
of
the
design
of
that.
If
we're
going
to
have
above
grade
parking,
let's
make
that
the
most
beautiful
above
grade
parking
that
we've
ever
seen.
Thank
you.
Sarah.
B
F
So
I,
just
a
couple
quick
things
again:
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
with
the
right
period
of
plan
is
for
the
details
about
which,
which
kind
of
plantings
they're
doing
on
the
soup.
That
will
be
get
better
in
March,
and
at
least
that's
it.
For
now,.
G
All
right
thanks!
So
again,
it's
important
that
the
sign
is
unusable,
but
also
the
lobby
as
well
so
given,
given
that,
like
I,
think
that
the
direction
that
the
designs
headed
in
our
creating
a
sign
and
also
also
sort
of
recreating
sort,
the
spirit,
Lobby
I,
think
that
that's
those
good
things
that
I'm
gonna
would
sort
of
or
piggyback
on
as
I
said
anywhere,
where
you
can
reuse
the
historical
materials
from
the
existing
building
in
a
new
way.
G
I
think
we've
also
sort
of
an
enhanced
sort
of
a
heartening
back
to
you
know
to
those
historical
Heritage
of
this
site
and
also
also
I,
was
like
that
there
should
be
some
sort
of
historical
interpretation
signage,
something
on
either
somewhere
in
from
outside
population.
I
Thank
you.
Okay,
I,
too,
am
looking
forward
to
the
Landscaping
plan,
it's
more
about
baileywick,
but
I.
Think
from
what
I've
seen
of
the
before
and
after
the
changes
that
have
been
made,
they're
all
going
in
the
right
direction,
I
think
it's
a
lot
of
improvement
and
I
like
the
burns,
I
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
see
what
the
with
the
details
basis.
Thank
you.
H
Oh
and
it's
a
beautiful
building
from
the
Arlington
Boulevard
side,
I
like
the
Solitude
and
lots
of
things,
I'd
love
to
see
more
color
in
there
reminiscent
of
the
arva,
whatever
googly
style,
all
right,
not
an
architect
but
Swatch.
The
color
make
it
less
serious.
I
would
totally
welcome
that.
I
am
concerned
as
a
resident
that
lives
just
a
block
from
there
about
traffic
circulation.
If
we're
forcing
left
in
right
out
Wayne,
how
are
we
going
to
enforce
that?
How
we're
going
to
build
the
structure
and
the
route
to
encourage
that?
H
Why
not
having
a
mangle
instead
of
a
t,
interception
to
sort
of
parking
as
I
mentioned
stuff
along
the
Arlington
Boulevard
six
feet
down?
That's
totally
reasonable
makes
sense,
but
the
surface
stuff
are
getting
close
to
surface
just
to
accommodate
the
town.
Homes.
I,
don't
think,
is
a
legitimate
reason.
I'd
like
to
see
the
town
homes
have
more
three
bedroom
options,
I
think
they're
all
listed
in
two
bedroom.
H
If
I
don't
know
if
the
design
is
done
yet,
but
there's
lots
of
families
that
are
looking
for
something
that's
a
little
bit
more
affordable,
that's
relevant,
more
green
access
and
there's
tons
of
options
for
the
one
better
two-bedroom
people
out
there
so
reflexes.
If
you
had
love
to
see
some
retail
substantial
retail
in
there,
both
full
of
Corners,
that
would
be
great,
otherwise,
very
nice
building
just
make
it
even
better.
Please.
D
Get
us
moving
in
the
right
direction.
We're
have
to
see
the
changes
that
have
been
made
up
so
far.
This
is
a
little
ways
to
go,
but
anyway,
I
would
like
to
see
you
next
time
more
renderings
of
the
Muse,
how
that's
going
to
operate
design
of
it,
but
the
experiences
there
right
now
the
renderings
are
really
good,
but
I.
Think
we'd
like
to
zoom
in
on
some
of
the
more
themselves,
see
that
same
with
the
well
into
the
lower
side.
D
The
right
way,
great
I,
really
appreciate
the
PAC
rep,
raising
the
interview
interface
of
views
in
the
trail,
it
is
important
particular
intrusion
out
there,
I
will
say:
bollards
are
a
left
Resort.
There
are
lots
of
other
great
design
ways
to
to
Signal
the
vehicles.
They
are
absolutely
in
the
wrong
place,
one
of
the
common
ones.
That
seems
to
be.
D
You
know
Landscaping
kind
of
in
the
center
that
leaving
you
know
the
next
Supply
Trail
on
either
side
but
small
enough
that
Firestone
try
and
go
onto
the
sides
rather
than
something
that
something
might
make
it
to
an
introducible.
I
really
want
to
see
a
lively
act,
Plaza
adjacent
retail
yeah,
but
one
way
to
accomplish
that.
But
there
are
other
ways
so
you're
about
that.
The
Nexus
PRC
I
really
appreciate
the
importance
of
the
trail.
D
Make
it
looks
great
I
would
prefer
to
see
the
above
great
parking,
fully
wrapped
in
active
uses
or
moved
underground
or
dated.
That's
fine
with
me:
I'm
supportive
of
the
partner
ratio.
Otherwise,
and
but
I've
been
able
to
have
already
said
whatever.
O
Great
so
yeah
I
agree,
that's
moving
in
the
right
direction,
generally
I
like
how
it's
generally
a
concurrence
with
the
special
glove
study,
the
Heights
and
and
Master
unit
transitions.
So
thank
you,
for
that
would
like
to
hope
to
see
the
parking
either
move
below
grade
or
app
with
active
abuses.
As
commissioner
slot
mentioned,.
O
We'd
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
giving
parking
here
actually
so,
essentially
more
we'll
want
to
see
you
next
time
we're
talking
about
Community
benefits,
how
you're
achieving
the
affordable
housing
requirements
here
to
kind
of
beyond
the
base.
So
we'd
like
to
you,
know
more
information
on
that
next
time
and
then
on
the
Plaza
issue.
O
G
C
O
Document
about
guidance
for
kind
of
private
plazas
and
things
of
that
nature
so
and
Mr
Richard
Kreider
could
help.
If
you
have
questions
on
that.
So
thank
you.
C
My
turn
thank
you
for
the
great
presentation,
I
we'll.
Second,
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
you're
said
just
now,
I
will
highlight
the
great
design
that
holds
the
corner.
Wells
I
think
that's
a
sophistic
achievement
in
and
of
itself
and
I
think
it
creates
a
sense
of
Gateway
as
much
as
I've,
reticent
to
48
you
in
our
own
fantasy
each
other.
C
We
have
a
Gateway
and
it
would
work,
but
I
think
I
think
I
think
that
works
well
and
it-
and
it
bodes
well
with
the
neighbor
across
the
street
I
think
the
sign
needs
a
little
bit
of
work.
I
think
a
little
bit
more
prominence
a
little
bit
more
attention
given
to
the
sign
the
historic
sign
now
with
sending
commissioner
Sarah's
comments
that
she
said
different
to
it.
I
think
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
celebrate
that
and
that
in
the
fun
you
know,
googie,
that's
a
term
of
art,
that's
really
hard.
C
And
I
I
do
have
to
second
about
great
parking
that
that
is
problematic
and
I.
Think
I
would
like
to
reinforce
that,
but
the
way
the
building
tapers
towards
the
neighbors,
particularly
along
in
Route
50,
not
Wilson
Boulevard,
is
good
and
I.
Think
it's
it's
achieving
a
lot
of
its
goals
and
then
I
like
the
some
of
the
creative
typology.
But
I
will
Echo
Aaron's
comments
that
a
three-bedroom
more
three
bedrooms
would
be
good
but
I
think
a
lot
of
the
typologies
with
the
walkouts.
C
Although
I
was
critical
of
them
at
first
I.
Think
you
guys
that's
a
really
fun
thing
where
you
walk
out
straight
onto
the
the
pathway
and
along
the
beach,
so
great
job
overall
I
think
you're
doing
great
superintendent
to
keep.
B
C
B
Okay
and
let's
go
to
virtual
Elizabeth
Gallagher
who's
Gallagher
from
pedestrian
advisory.
Any
final
thoughts
for
the
night.
K
Oh,
the
first
is
I
think
we
were
a
little
bit
Miss
and
didn't
talk
about
micro
mobility
in
the
transportation
section,
so
just
kind
of
like
what
the
plan
is
for
the
inevitable
pile
of
scooters
that
will
that
will
end
up
on
the
site
because
it'll
be
so
popular
your
site,
and
so
there
are
various
Corrals
that
the
county
has
been
trying
out.
K
I'm,
not
sure
any
sprcs
have
accounted
for
micro
Mobility,
but
it's
a
good
good
thing
to
be
thinking
about
from
from
the
Forefront.
It's
not
going
away,
and
then
the
second
I
appreciated
the
representative
from
that
the
BAC
kind
of
bringing
up
the
concern
about
the
location
of
the
Bike
Room
as
I
was
going
back
to
the
diagram.
It
does
look
like
there's
a
possibility
of
contention
like
if
you're
you
know,
riding
to
the
Bike
Room
from
the
trail.
K
You
will
likely,
because
of
the
curb
Cuts,
take
that
that
sidewalk
on
Pershing,
which
I
think
is
only
six
feet
wide,
which
is
a
little
skinny,
especially
if
you're
trying
to
fit
both
uses
and
so
by
moving
the
Bike
Room.
You
might
be
able
to
kind
of
reduce
that
contention
on
that
on
that
skinny
sidewalk
there,
but
yeah
otherwise,
I
like
the
plan.
Thank
you
for
having
me.
L
Was
just
I'm
sorry
I
was
I
was
unmuting
okay
at
any
rate,
I
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
what
you're
going
to
do
here,
because
I
arrived
the
4A
and
4B
all
the
time,
but
but
and
it's
it's
always
been
actually
a
kind
of
at
least
the
landmark,
a
common
Landmark
to
know
that
I'm
going
past
that
building
and
I'll
soon
be
home.
L
Redevelopment
and
and
I
a
new
hope
that
you
will
take
note
of
some
of
the
issues
that
I
raised
about
accessible
pedestrian
walkways
and
streetscapes,
as
well
as
a
concern
about
protected
bike
lanes
and
what
is
already
a
busy
intersections
up
there
in
that
neighborhood
I
want
to
note
that
there
are
a
number
of
people
who
have
disabilities
who
are
living
in
fully
accessible
units
in
Buckingham.
L
That
will
benefit
from
this
and
and
being
able
to
go
back
and
forth
in
the
neighborhood
and
then
I
want
to
reiterate
the
need
for
accessible,
Lobby
and
and
and
drive
up
pick
up
space
and
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
hearing
more
and
seeing
more
about
the
building
and
I
hope,
you
will
seek
the
advice
of
the
disability,
community,
community
and
disability
commission,
maybe
on
some
technical
points
about
accessibility.
L
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
Thank.
B
You
Doris
and
I
think
that
wraps
us
all
up
everyone,
we
use
an
sprc
member
had
a
chance
to
talk.
No
one
hiding
me
I
should
feel
better
yeah
yeah,
okay.
So
as
far
as
our
next
steps,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
everybody
here
who
came
and
shared
your
thoughts
in
person
or
virtually
I.
Think
we
had
a
really
good
discussion
and
our
next
meeting
was
mentioned.
March
20th
is
our
save
the
date
for
right
now,
public.
B
We're
gonna
do
that
Dr
Byrne
I'm
committed
to
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
sustainability
and
biophilia
public
space
and
Community
benefits,
faith
and
construction
updates
on
the
what
we
talked
about
tonight.
If
you
have
any
questions
between
now
and
then,
please
feel
free
to
email,
myself
and
Peter,
and
we
can
get
those
questions
to
the
applicant
or
answer
them
ourselves.
Thank
you
to
both
staff
and
the
applicant
for
your
presentations
tonight.
B
Now
I
would
like
to
go
to
public
comments.
I
think
we
only
have
one
person
registered
and
that
is
Dr
bird,
so
Dr
burn.
You
have
three
minutes
and
please
feel
free
to
go
off
mute
and
you
can
go
on
camera
and
please
share
your
feedback
on
this
project.
Okay,.
Q
Can
you
hear
me
yeah
yeah?
This
project
does
not
have
enough
biophilia.
While
there
are
a
few
small
plant
beds
on
the
structure,
there
are
there's
no
green
roof.
The
structure
instead
contains
much
Synthetic
Turf
and
wood
decking,
which
will
create
storm
water,
runoff,
add
native
Vines
and
other
plants
that
will
hang
down
from
the
roofing
balconies
climb
from
the
ground
or
and
or
grow
from
the
lawn
east
of
the
building
add
a
real
green
roof.
This
may
appear
too
Innovative,
but
to
increase
biophilia
set
back
the
buildings
ground
floor
from
all
plant
sidewalks.
Q
The
setbacks
will
increase
the
space
available
in
this
level
for
plantings
of
low
vegetation.
The
synthax
will
also
allow
the
second
or
third
floor
to
shelter
pedestrians
during
Implement
weather
people
haven't
thought
done
this
before
Arlington.
It's
a
good
idea.
All
plants
are
to
support
pollinators
to
conform
with
accounting
boards,
Monarch
fledge
plant
much
common
milkweed
is
companies
suriaka.
This
plant
grows
well
into
Arlington
Sunny
air
natural
areas.
Q
Monarchs
prefer
to
lay
eggs
on
this
milkweed
species
plant
fewer,
no
ornamental
when
pollinated
ornamental
grasses
such
sedges,
while
the
leaves
and
stems
of
these
plants,
feed
and
shelter
some
pollinators
plants
that
enters
insects,
pollinators,
attract
and
feed.
Far
more
replace
the
area
that
may
be
designated
for
above
grade
parking
with
a
green
space
containing
nature,
shrubs
ground
covers
and
perennials
that
support
pollinators.
All
tree,
trenches
and
sidewalks
and
elsewhere
should
contain
a
common
milkweed
other
plants
that
support
pollinators
increase
the
size
of
the
public
space.
Q
A
future
Park
in
the
Northwestern
corner
of
the
site
do
not
rely
on
the
County's
Architects
as
six
select
the
plants
for
the
park.
They
often
select
the
wrong
species
for
the
County's
parks
and
don't
present
them
to
the
public.
Lawns
are
not
biophilic.
They
support
few
pollinators,
birds
and
other
Wildlife
replace
all
Lawns,
including
a
lawn
between
Arlington
Boulevard
bike
trail
and
the
building
with
plantings
of
native
shrubs
ground
covers
and
perennials
that
support
pollinators,
revise
the
landscape
sheets
in
the
four
foot.