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From YouTube: Charlie Clark's Arlington County Chronicles
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Author Charlie Clark reads from his book, Arlington County Chronicles and hosts a lively discussion about Arlington history with the audience. Mr. Clark writes the "Our Man in Arlington" column for the Falls Church News-Press. The talk was hosted by the Arlington Central Library on July 7 2014.
A
Hear
me
we're
very
excited
tonight
to
welcome
Charlie
Clark
I.
Don't
really
need
to
introduce
them,
because
I
have
a
feeling
that
many
of
you
know
him
personally
or
have
read
his
column.
I
work
at
one
more
page,
books
and
I
can
tell
you.
This
book
has
been
flying
off
the
shelves
at
our
store
before
I
came
over
here.
A
I
had
to
pick
them
all
up
to
bring
them
to
make
sure
that
we
would
have
enough,
but
I
know
we're
in
for
a
really
interesting
fun
and
kind
of
quirky
evening
hearing
some
of
the
odd
things
and
informative
things
and
really
wonderful
people
that
lived
here
in
Arlington.
Please
join
me
in
welcoming
Charlie
Clark.
B
Okay,
thanks
so
much
Eileen,
so
we're
gonna
have
a
two-way
talk.
Tonight.
I
am
gonna
speak
for
a
while
and
I
will
probably
read
one
or
two
selections
from
the
book
and
then
talk
a
little
more,
but
I
do
look
forward
to
not
just
questions
but
anecdotes
I
always
get
a
big
kick
out
of
it,
and
there's
so
much
in
everybody
else's
heads
about
our
wonderful
County
of
Arlington.
That
I
would
love
to
open
it
up
for
that
a
little
bit
later,
so
I
wanted
to
start
with
a
pop
quiz.
B
How
many
people
here
know
where
wonders
crossroads
is
all
right.
We
got
one
two,
three
pretty
good.
Okay!
Well,
you
you
all
are
black
belts
in
Arlington,
trivia,
Wonders
crossroads
is
the
intersection
of
Lieb
road
and
Lee
Highway,
and
it
was
a
farm
in
the
latter
19th
century
and
the
reason
I
mention
it
is
that
there's
a
historic
sign
right
there
in
front
of
the
Wells
Fargo
right
right,
where
the
optimists
Club
sells
Christmas
trees
every
year,
and
my
theory
is
that
very
few
people
stop
and
read
those
historic
signs
and
I'm
guilty
of
that.
B
For
much
of
my
life
too,
so
I've
gotten
into
habit
in
recent
years
since
I've
been
writing
this
column
in
the
false
Church
paper
of
pulling
over
and
reading
them,
and
three
of
them
ended
up
in
this
book.
So
I
thought
that
was
a
good
lesson.
I
have
a
since
I
began
writing
a
column
which
it
was
December
of
2010,
which
means
I've
written
like
something
like
a
hundred
and
seventy
of
them.
Right
now.
B
I
was
trying
to
assemble
something
and
I
had
a
little
help
from
my
daughter's
wordsmith
as
well.
I
wanted
to
get
a
something
that
would
add
up
to
a
portrait
of
Arlington
and
that
would
cater
to
different
populations.
Arlington
is
a
slightly
strange
Beast.
You
know
it
really.
It
really
doesn't
have
a
center.
B
I'm
grateful
to
them
they're
a
little
more
a
lot
of
MU
in
that
fine
group
or
a
little
more
hardcore.
Historians
and
I
am
I'm
a
I'm,
a
journalist.
I
do
but
like
sometimes
called
drive-by
history,
and
they
a
lot
of
those
fine
people
have
the
patience
to
give
up
their
sunny
Saturdays.
You
know
to
pour
through
files
and
documents
and
put
together,
you
know,
maybe
maybe
more
accurate,
but
slightly
dull
or
slightly
you're
uncertain.
B
If
you,
if
you're
ever
going
to
be
able
to
publish
this,
you
know
but
I
taken
advantage
of
a
lot
of
their
work
and
they've.
Given
me,
some
lean
way
too,
when
I
first
started,
writing
for
them
was
way
back
in
the
late
nineties,
I
tried
to
sort
of
introduce
the
journalistic
approach
with
fewer
footnotes,
more
anecdotes
and
more
recent
history.
B
I
did
things
on
the
founding
of
HB
Woodlawn
and
on
the
American
Nazi
Party
in
Arlington
and
on
the
motorcycle
gang
shootout,
all
of
which
I've
spoken
about
about
here
before
and
I
think
it
was.
It
was
a
revelation
to
all
of
us
that
something
so
recent
could
be
classified
as
history,
but
that's
part
of
growing
old.
B
So
let
me
give
a
quick,
personal,
bio
and
then
I'll
read
a
selection
and
then
we'll
talk.
Some
more
I
was
born
at
George
Washington
Hospital
downtown,
but
my
parents
immediately
moved
Irving
Street
in
Clarendon.
I
have
no
memory
of
that
house,
but
I
had
pictures
of
it
until
it
was
torn
down
last
year
be
developed.
It's
right.
Next
to
Frank
Hall
two
monitors
house
he's
the
principal
of
HP
Woodlawn
and
across
the
street
from
malazan
Burke's
house
Tim.
B
My
parents
moved
over
Cherrydale
if
I
live
for
six
years
went
to
Cherry
toe
elementary
school
first
and
part
of
second
grade
now
my
parents
moved
to
River
crest
by
Chain
Bridge,
where
I
went
to
James
Madison
elementary
school
for
five
and
a
half
years,
then
I
went
to
wings
burg,
junior
high
back
then
and
then
I
went
to
Yorktown
graduated
in
1971.
There's
a
few
of
my
Yorktown
maids
here
tonight,
which
I'm
pleased
to
see
so
I
just
want
you
to
have,
and
then
I
went
away
for
college
travel
and
sellon
in
Alexandria
met.
B
My
wife
and
I
never
knew
what
hit
me
after
that,
but
we
came
back
to
our
Langton
in
1993
and
we've
settled
in
the
East
Falls
Church
neighborhood.
And
if
you
read
the
book,
you
might
pick
up
a
slight
bias
towards
North
Arlington
towards
East
Falls
Church
towards
baby-boomers
whatever,
but
ignore
it
it's
we
do
our
best.
B
B
Whenever
I
Drive,
past
Arlington,
Hall
I'm
reminded
that,
if
it
did
not
exist,
neither
would
I
it
was
there
at
the
intersection
of
Arlington,
Boulevard
and
George
Mason
Drive
that
my
parents
met
during
World
War
two
today,
the
100-acre
complex
is
a
fenced
off
home
to
the
Army
National
Guard
Readiness
Center
and
the
George
P
Shultz
national
foreign
affairs
training
center.
But
this
prime
location
has
a
more
intriguing
history,
encompassing
debutantes
and
spies
of
both
local
and
global
importance.
B
Arlington
Hall
began
as
the
county's
sole
private
school
built
in
1927
as
a
junior
college
for
women.
It's
handsome,
yellow
brick
colonial
structure
with
six
columns
housed
a
high
school
classrooms,
a
gym
and
indoor
and
outdoor
equestrian
arena
for
200
students
instruction
for
females
of
the
smart
set
included.
Music
art
drama
home
economics,
secretarial
skills
and
physical
education
according
to
nan
and
Ross
Douthat
ins,
pictorial,
history
of
Arlington,
but
it's
horses
were
the
main
attraction.
B
According
to
the
Smithsonian
American
History
Museum
director
John
Gray,
whose
mother
studied
there
in
the
mid
1930s,
we
grew
up
with
great
photographs
of
her
on
the
fiercest
horses
jumping
in
the
ring
and
a
few
pictures
of
the
students
dressed
to
the
nines.
For
their
dinner
Gray
told
me
mother
continued
to
ride
with
the
riding
instructor
from
Arlington
Hall
out
on
the
circuit
through
the
Great
Depression
forced
the
school
into
bankruptcy.
B
It
survived
under
a
non-profit
trustee
ship
until
1942
and
that's
when
the
federal
government
took
over
and
set
up
the
US
Army
Signal
Corps
z'
signals
intelligence
service
tasked
with
breaking
the
Japanese
code,
renamed
Darlington
Hall
station
the
site
hosted
many
young
intelligence
officers
and
linguists
who'd
been
summoned
to
Washington
for
the
war
effort
among
them
were
a
Yale
history,
major
newly
commissioned
as
an
army,
lieutenant
my
father
and
the
Newcomb
Tulane
University
language,
major,
my
mother.
The
project
was
so
secret.
B
My
dad
wrote
in
a
letter
recently
unearthed
by
my
sister
that
when
he
asked
recruiters
to
describe
the
actual
work
they
couldn't
tell
us.
Mom
described
the
difficulty
of
code
breaking
on
camera
in
the
2007
WETA
produced
documentary
homefront
world
war
ii
in
washington,
in
which
she
declared
crash
course
learning
of
japanese
to
be
a
tall
order.
Both
my
future
parents
used
their
time
at
Arlington
Hall
to
meet
people
from
unfamiliar
backgrounds
and
to
enjoy
nightlife
with
eligible
singles.
B
When
the
war
ended,
Arlington
Hall
continued
as
a
national
security
hub.
The
drama
of
the
Soviet
spy
named
Bill
Wiis
band
at
the
site
was
not
exposed
until
the
1990s.
It
served
as
headquarters
for
the
National
Security
Agency
US
Army
and
Air
Force
security
organizations
and
later
parts
of
the
Defense
Intelligence
Agency.
Today,
the
beautiful
Arlington
Hall
main
building
on
the
National
Register
of
Historic
Places,
is
run
by
the
State
Department
for
its
Foreign
Service
Institute
every
year.
B
B
So
another
theme
that
I
hope
is
captured
in
this
sweep
of
the
book,
but
again
without
much
discipline.
That's
that's
the
way
we
non
professional
historians
operate,
but
is
it
captures
a
low
I
hope
this?
The
sweep
of
change
in
Arlington
and
one
of
the
essays
that
I
thought
embody
that
the
most
is
the
one
on
halls?
B
Hill,
because
when
I
was
growing
up
here
in
the
50s
and
60s
white
families
considered
a
dangerous
neighborhood
that
you
seldom
entered
and
I
took
the
arlington
walking
tour,
which
was
a
wonderful
program
run
by
lauren
hassle,
and
we
had
about
a
hundred
of
us
walking
all
through
the
neighborhood,
and
I
was
just
astonished
at
the
multiracial
tranquility.
There
was
there
now
and
all
sorts
of
new
homes,
and
I
also
learned
a
whole
lot
about
the
geography
of
halls
hill.
B
The
fence
that
once
divided
it
from
the
nearby
neighborhoods
was
just
the
remnants
of
which
are
still
there
and
some
of
the
famous
people
they
used
to
live
in
the
neighborhood
and
the
fact
that
when
our
lincoln
hospital
was
built
when
1940's,
maybe
blacks,
who
lived
200
feet
away,
we're
not
permitted
as
patients.
So
I
recommend
that
that
walking
tour
of
halls
hill.
B
The
other
thing
I
did
in
the
book
to
try
and
give
it
some
durability-
was
I
researched
carefully
and
thanks
for
the
internet,
compilations
of
Arlington
celebrities,
some
trivia
there
and
I
tried
to
fact-check
them
as
best
I
could
and
tried
to
produce.
What
I
hope
is
the
definitive
roundup
of
the
famous
actors,
the
famous
athletes,
the
famous
musicians.
B
Then
I
did
lists
of
vanished
businesses.
I
have
the
movie
theaters
that
are
no
longer
here.
A
lot
of
the
retail
places,
some
of
which
I
photographs,
I
used
Arlington's
other
cemeteries,
I
have
a
column
you
can
find
about.
Twelve
lesser-known
cemeteries
didn't
how
to
find
him
and
espionage
in
Arlington,
which
I
totally
ripped
off
from
the
CIA
historian.
B
David
Roberge,
whom
I've
heard
speak
several
times,
but
he
gives
a
great
talk
which
I
covered
once
about
three
or
four
major
espionage
episodes
that
unfolded
in
Arlington,
one
of
the
most
popular
columns
for
some
reason,
but
it
really
warms.
The
cockles
of
my
heart
is
the
one
I
did
on
Jim
Morrison,
the
singer
of
The
Doors
group
that
was
dominated
the
pop
charts
in
the
summer
of
love
1967.
With
this
song
light,
my
fire
and
reason
he's
close
to
my
heart
is
not
only
was
I
have
fan,
but
I.
B
The
first
piece
of
journalism,
I
ever
published
and
was
paid
for
was
in
1972,
was
my
visit
to
Jim
Morrison's
grave
in
Paris
at
the
he's
buried
at
the
parish
says
Cemetery,
and
this
had
not
gotten
much
coverage
at
the
time,
and
so
I
interviewed
the
groundskeeper,
who
told
me
that
these
French
kids
were
come
at
midnight
and
scream
and
play
guitars
and
howl,
and
so
it
made
a
slightly
scandalous
story.
So
I
sent
it
back
to
the
Washington
Daily
News.
How
many
remember
the
Washington
Daily
News
all
right?
B
B
Okay,
this
one's
called
buddy
the
mover
man,
a
death
notice
from
a
memorable
moving
man
made
the
rounds
in
November
2012
among
a
slice
of
my
Arlington
boyhood
pals
Arthur
buddy
fry
of
Spotsylvania
County,
who
died
in
June
2012
at
68
may
never
have
known
his
impact
on
the
lives
of
suburban
teens
back
in
the
1970s
and
what
then
was
an
arlington
institution
known
as
Newlands
transfer?
The
emails
flew
40
years
after
buddy
and
the
other
furniture
estimators
drivers,
Packers
and
warehouseman
gave
our
gang
of
college
help
our
first
adventures
in
blue-collar
work.
B
My
brother
sister
and
a
dozen
plus
friends
spent
summers
at
Newlands
at
North.
Nelson
Street
the
yard,
still
visible
off
I-66
at
Quincy
Street
between
Hayes
playground
and
the
vanished
score
more
bowling
alley.
We
packed
household
goods
and
home
tie
two
beds
up:
walk
boards
for
hourly
rages.
That
memories
differ
range
from
a
dollar
fifty
six
to
two
dollars
and
25
cents.
B
Most
of
us
were
hired
by
the
gruff
owner
Harry
ol
Newlin,
jr.
Steve,
recalled
how
Harry
Earl
would
come
out
of
his
office,
go
to
the
shed
and
holler
at
us
for
standing
around
and
not
cleaning
up,
but
then
he
would
look
at
Steve
privately
and
wink.
My
sister
Martha
remembers
Harry's
impatience
when
some
callow
employee
couldn't
get
a
truck
running
the
boss
removed
his
jacket
and
applied
his
diamond
ring
fingers
to
make
the
engine
roar.
B
My
friend
Dickie,
who
in
college
folklore
class,
wrote
a
fifty
page
paper
on
Newlands,
recalled
the
Saturday
he
and
PAL
Randy
were
driven
to
Harry's
Fairfax
home
in
a
flatbed
truck.
They
picked
up
a
backhoe
to
spread
topsoil.
His
wife
made
us
tuna
salad,
sandwiches
for
a
15
minute
lunch
Dickie
remembers.
We
went
back
to
the
office
and
Harry
told
us
he
was
going
to
fill
in
our
time
clock
cards.
He
docked
the
travel
time
and
the
tuna
fish
eating
pie.
B
I
can't
take
credit
for
that
joke.
It's
a
good
joke.
Much
more
approachable
was
Newland
son
or
Harry
Earl.
The
third
called
butch
one
guy
on
our
College
crowd,
threw
a
beer
party
and
invited
the
whole
Newlands
crew
to
his
parents.
Home
butch
was
the
only
professional
to
show
buddy
Frye,
as
James
are
called
once
passed
out.
A
memo
declaring
guaranteed
vacation
time
for
all
long-term
employees
allegedly
signed
by
Harry
Earl,
though
he
delayed
giving
the
boss
his
own
copy
buddy
was
a
silvertone
salesman
with
customers.
B
My
brother
recalls
buddy,
mocking
him
for
believing
that
the
1969
moonwalk
really
happened.
My
friend
Don
Lee,
recalls
getting
in
trouble
and
hearing
buddy
say
that
old
bud
take
care
of
it.
Many
of
us
worked
during
the
floods
from
1972
s.
Hurricane
Agnes,
a
black
crew
leader
who
couldn't
get
home
to
DC,
spent
that
night
on
a
cot
in
our
Arlington
home
Newlands,
was
still
going
in
1993
when
I
booked
a
local
move.
B
Eventually,
its
property
was
taken
over
by
technology
contractor
system
planning,
Corp
and
Newlands
shrunk
to
a
moving
supplies
office
run
by
butch
near
the
landmark
shopping
center,
butch
died
in
2004
and
his
father
in
2010.
Today,
the
old
Newlands
yard
belongs
to
our
Lincoln
Public
Schools
I
treasure
my
education
from
both
owners.
B
If
you
get
the
book
you'll
see,
I
do
have
a
little
rundown
of
controversies
in
the
county.
The
streetcar
figures
heavily
I,
do
not
take
a
position
on
the
streetcar
I
do
enjoy
talking
about
it,
though.
I
talk
about
some
others,
the
homeless,
shelter
they're
about
to
build
a
Courthouse,
Square
and
I
talk
about
the
decibel
checking
equipment.
They
used
at
the
westover
beer
garden
to
protect
the
neighbors
from
illicit
Saturday
night.
B
Next
to
me
said:
are
you
the
guy
that
writes,
wrote
that
column
about
bolston
I,
said
yeah?
He
says
well
I
design
that
building
there
I
design
a
Weston
hotel
across
the
street.
He's
talked
about
the
Virginia
Tech
building,
you
know
so
I
tried
to
assure
him
that
he
did
a
beautiful
job
if
you're,
if
you're
riding
on
Glebe
Road
south,
and
you
can
see
Macy's
ahead
of
you,
the
way
those
silver
buildings
with
new
ones
turn
around
I.
B
Think
that's
great
I'm,
really
talking
about
the
building's
a
little
bit
further
to
the
left
that
just
looked
like
giant
higgledy-piggledy,
you
know
cakes
or
something,
then
the
other
one
that
I
hope
wasn't
misinterpreted.
I
have
an
essay
here
on
the
cotillion
dances.
How
many
here
participated
in
cotillion,
either
as
parents
or
as
dancers
good
for
you
all
well
the
columns
about
how,
on
a
Saturday
morning,
I
had
to
give
up
my
basketball
practice
and
put
on
a
clip-on
bow
tie
and
go
learn
how
to
do
the
foxtrot.
You
know
to
squaresville
music.
B
You
know
like
autumn
leaves
and
tea
for
two
with
this
combo
up
front
and
the
girls
all
had
to
wear
their
white
gloves
and
we
had
to
learn
how
to
fetch
them.
Their
punch
and
everything.
So
I
had
a
fun
time.
Recalling
that
and
interviewing
some
friends
and
I
interviewed
mrs.
Courtney
Audrey
Courtney
who's
still
living
she's
in
the
green
spring
retirement
community
and
her
husband,
Joe
Courtney,
and
he's
going
to
show
up
in
another
story,
I'll
tell
in
just
a
minute
he
showed
up.
B
She
gave
me
a
good
interview
about
how
cotillion
was
organized,
which
I
could
have
had
no
idea
being
a
12
year
old
at
the
time
and
when
the
column
came
out.
You
know
it
occurred
to
me
that
some
of
my
hyperbolic
sarcasm
about
how
traumatized
I
was
by
this
experience,
would
really
sort
of
went
over
her
head
and
I.
Don't
really
blame
her?
You
know,
and
it
occurred
to
me
that
you
know
the
world
war
two
generation,
many
of
whom
are
here
in
the
audience.
B
You
all
did
a
your
bit
level
best
to
raise
the
baby
boomers
and
we
had
a
different
agenda.
I
think
that
there
was
very
little
hope
that
when
the
Beatles
had
just
hit
in
1964
that
we
were
gonna,
learn
the
foxtrot
and
go
to
and
go
to
debut
parties
and
but
I
I,
just
I'm.
So
glad
I
like
to
thank
the
World
War
two
generation
for
trying
to
share
their
culture
with
us.
I
really
appreciate
it
a
couple
more
in
the
book.
B
B
You
get
to
call
up
and
ask
these
nosy
questions
and
they'll
put
you
through,
and
this
guy
says
well,
where
is
it
and
I
said
well,
I'm,
not
gonna
tell
you
that
cuz
you'll
fix
it
before
my
column
comes
out,
so
when
he
boasted
he
says
we
can
fix
that
in
two
hours,
so
I
said:
okay,
the
column
came
out
on
Thursday
morning.
He
may
have
been
out
on
line
little
bit
earlier
and
I
was
walking
to
the
Metro
at
about
10:00
in
the
morning,
and
there
was
this
crew
fixing
the
sign.
B
But
there's
a
story
behind
this
and
I
wouldn't
have
brought
it
up
if
I
hadn't
been
in
this
very
room
about
two
years
ago
and
they
had
an
excellent
Historical
Society
event
on
history
of
Washington
Lee
high
school.
Some
of
you
were
probably
there.
They
had
representatives
in
the
class
of
the
30s
40s
50s,
the
60s
all
through
speaking
so
when
my
friend
George
Dodge
she's
an
author
and
active
in
the
Historical
Society.
When
he
his
turn
to
speak
about
the
70s.
B
He
says
the
highlight
of
his
high
school
years
was
the
football
game
against
Yorktown
in
the
mud
where
wl1
and
the
there
was
his
rumors
that
the
coaches
had
purposely
watered
down
the
football
field
inside.
So
my
mouse
is
dropped
because
he
had
no
idea
that
I
played
in
that
game
and
that
we
talked
about
that.
You
know
for
years
to
come,
but
we
eventually
moved
on.
You
know
we,
but
what
happened
during
the
game?
Is
that
a
wash
and
opposed
photographer?
B
But
so
at
some
point
during
the
game,
through
no
fault
of
mine,
that
this,
why
she
posted
photographers
snapped
this
picture
and
it
is
a
nicely
composed
picture.
I
give
him
credit.
It
was
never
published,
but
mr.
Courtney,
whose
wife
who
did
cotillion
I
mentioned
earlier.
He
approached
the
photographer
later
and
secured
the
negative
and
made
several
copies
a
circulation
of
about
five
and
he
sent
it
to
several
of
us
who
were
in
the
picture.
My
father
had
duplicates
made
and
he
put
it
in
his
office
and
stayed
there
for
years.
B
I
still
have
a
copy
in
my
office
too,
and
so
when
it
came
time
to
so,
then
I
wrote
this
column
after
George,
Dodge
and
reintroduced
the
subject.
After
a
forty
years
of
dormancy
and
I
sent
it
out
the
anecdote
out
to
a
lot
of
my
classmates
and
teammates,
and
they
immediately
wait
and
with
all
this
debate
about
whether
the
coach
is
purposely
watered
down
in
the
field.
Now
it's
fine,
so
it
made
an
easy
column
and
then
I
got
the
contractor
published
his
book
and
they
wanted
photographs.
B
So
suddenly,
you
know
this
is
like
a
series
of
about
seven
flukes
coming
together
that
the
publisher
wants
pictures
and
there's
a
chance
for
this
one
to
finally
be
published
and
I
got
the
original
negative
from
Courtenay
family
and
there
it
came
so
anyway
I'm
about
to
open
it
up
for
questions
and
comments.
I
thought
I
would
just
end
with
a
little
note
about
how
I
write
the
column,
the
Falls
Church
paper.
It's
it's
has
about
40,000
circulation,
I,
think
in
mostly
in
Falls
Church,
but
some
in
Arlington,
three
or
four
thousand
in
Arlington.
B
They
have
about
thirty
drop-off
points
at
CVS
and
Metro
and
safely
and
I
comes
out
online
I'm,
usually
Tuesday
night
print
edition
Thursday
morning
and
I
usually
pick
the
topic
by
about
Wednesday
and
I,
make
some
inquiries
increase
by
email
or
phone
get
a
couple
of
facts
or
quotes
nailed
down
and
then
a
Sunday
afternoon,
no
matter
how
tired
I
am
or
how
much
I'd
rather
watch
the
Redskins
or
something
I
sit
down
and
bang
out
a
copy
column.
And
then
my
wife
helps
me
proofread
it
on
Monday
night
and
we
send
it
in
I.
B
Don't
ever
seem
to
run
out
of
ideas.
I
have
an
ongoing
list
of
future
ideas.
Some
evergreen,
some
breaking
news
and
I,
get
a
lot
of
good
ideas.
Some
readers,
so
I'm
happy
to
take
suggestions
from
you
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
it
was
a
big
stroke
of
luck
to
get
the
collar
a
big
stroke
of
luck
to
get
the
book
out
and
I
considered
a
big
privilege.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
C
D
C
E
B
B
F
Eaten
I
bought
our
first
house
in
1965
in
Horseshoe
Park
and
that's
the
name
of
the
past,
because
they've
redone
the
park
and
named
it
something
else
kind
of
like
old
Shirley
Highway,
you
know,
doesn't
exist
anymore,
but
my
son
and
I
I
guess
in
about
67
or
68
we're
building
a
deck
behind
our
house
and
we
had
to
do
a
lot
of
digging.
And
lo
and
behold
we
dug
up
a
mini
ball.
F
Civil
War
bullet
I,
understand,
there's
a
lot
of
ordnance
throughout
Arlington
from
the
many
ports
and
during
that
period
and
I
understand,
there's
only
one
battle
that
was
fought
in
Arlington,
such
as
it
was
maybe
I
think
it
was
a
cavalry
encounter.
So
have
you
done
any
research
or
studied
I
know?
You
must
have
on
the
Civil
War
and
its
impact
on
Arlington
and
things
that
happened
here
well.
B
I
spoke
to
I,
do
have
a
two
chapters
on
the
Civil
War,
one
on
the
40th
and
Allen,
which
is
the
site
of
James
Madison,
elementary
school
or
I
win,
which
is
now
a
Senior
Center
and
they
just
opened
the
new
outdoor
museum.
There
I
recommended
I
was
there
in
March
right
after
it
opened
there
wasn't
any
serious
combat
in
Arlington,
though,
when
we
were
kids,
we
would
occasionally
at
James,
Madison,
fine
belt,
buckles
or
shell
casings,
and
how
many
of
you
remember
who
Tom
Lilliquist
is
very
good.
B
Yeah
he's
a
classmate
of
ours
at
Yorktown
and
he
in
his
neighborhood,
but
he
is
the
one
who
just
gave
the
Library
of
Congress
two
three
years
ago
the
Lilliquist
collection
of
Civil
War
portraits
on
tintypes
and
other
types
of
early
photography
in
it,
which
he
has
collected,
he's
a
he's,
a
wealthy
jeweler.
He
runs
Lillian
quest
and
Beckstead
out
of
Tyson's,
and
he
and
his
sons
have
been
collecting
the
Civil
War
portraits,
and
you
can
see
them
on
the
library
congress
website.
B
But
he
told
me
that
that
he
found
casings
when
he
was
a
boy,
but
that
it's
sort
of
denuded
by
now
it's
is
I.
Think
the
it's
I.
Guess
it's
not
within
the
law
to
use
a
metal
detector
today
and
go
after
him,
but
they
probably
got
them
all.
The
other
Civil
War
thing
I
have
a
chapter
on
Mosby
who
lived
in
Arlington
and
I'm
indebted
to
my
first
grade:
classmate
Katherine,
Holt
Springsteen
who's,
a
Cherrydale
historian
for
tracking
down
Mosby's
in
later
years.
B
You
know
he
was
the
Gray
Ghost
and
in
the
Shenandoah
Valley,
and
he
did
all
performed
all
these
raids
and
ran
circles
around
the
Union
troops.
But
after
the
war
he
and
General
Grant
who,
when
he
was
president
became
friends
and
Mosby,
did
not
waive
the
bloody
shirt
and
keep
the
Civil
War
alive
and
he
got
appointed
our
Consul
in
Hong
Kong.
B
And
then
he
worked
at
the
Interior
Department
in
Washington
and
for
a
while
he
lived
in
a
boardinghouse
right
at
where
the
fillmore
gardens
are
today
in
Columbia,
Pike
and
then
and
then
I
have
a
chapter
on
George
Dodge
again.
He
shows
up
where
he
likes
to
dress
up
as
a
Confederate
soldier
who
who
lived
on
the
Abington
plantation
in
Arlington
and
owned
slaves.
B
He
does
an
excellent
talk
in
uniform
on
that
I
I
mentioned
Munson
Hill
a
little
bit
and
some
of
my
talks,
the
Battle
of
Munson
hill,
which
Munson
Hill
is
right
over
at
route
7
and
Glen,
Carlin
Road,
it's
right
where
job
stewart
assembled
his
troops
and
got
a
promotion.
It's
interesting
that
job
Stuart
High
School,
which
is
right
near
there
of
Sleepy
Hollow,
is
named
for
because
Jeff
Stewart
was
actually
there
not
just
because
he
was
a
famous
general
and
Lincoln
came
out
there
too.
It
Munson's
Hill,
but
it
was
basically
a
fake
battle.
B
B
There's
a
picture
of
a
trolley
circling
around
and
I
think
crashing
at
what
is
now
Rosalind
Circle
in
front
of
the
Marriott
back
when
it
was
the
cherry
smash,
plant
and
brewery
I.
Think
before
that
you
know
there
was
what
was
called
light.
Rail
went
through
Cherrydale
and
out
old
dominion,
drive
to
McLean
and
I'm
sure
that
Kathryn
Springsteen
would
have
a
much
firmer
idea
of
the
exact
routes,
but
cherry
Dale
was
one
of
the
main
stops.
In
fact,
you
mentioned
Admiral
rixie,
who
gave
the
land
sold
the
land
his
address.
B
I
have
a
I
mention
him
in
my
treatment
of
Teddy
Roosevelt
riding
his
horse
through
Arlington
and
rixie.
Was
his
riding
partner
and
President
Roosevelt
had
rules
for
riding
to
keep
the
groupies
and
paparazzi
from
messing
up
the
ride,
and
he
talks
about
his
date
line
or
signature
mailing
address,
Admiral
Rick
sees
was
called
Cherrydale
station,
even
though
it's
you
know
it's
a
good
half
mile
from,
but
that's
how
big
chair
wasn't
I.
G
B
B
B
H
B
Yes,
they've
all
been
surveyed,
I
think
there
were
64
of
them
or
something
4-0,
he's
saying:
okay,
very
good!
Thank
you
and
so
John
Kelly's
column
in
the
post.
Okay,
easily
updates
Adventures
of
a
man
who
has
track
tracked
them
all
down.
There's
one
near
my
house
at
Benjamin,
Banneker,
Park
and
Baedeker
helped
lay
those
out
and
I
also
want
to
mention.
If
someone
were
in
people's
backyards,
they
did
it's
not
even
accessible
to
the
public
if
they
build
the
streetcar
they're
gonna
have
to
move
that
stone.
B
I
Of
100
I
will
but
the
first
house
that
I
bought
in
Arlington
in
1977
was
built
by
an
outfit
I
found
out
at
closing
called
conservative
Realty.
They
don't
seem
to
have
had
a
great
deal
of
influence
based
on
voting
patterns,
but
I
wanted
to
raise
an
another
issue
through
people
here
from
Lyon
Village.
Evidently,
when
Frank
Lyon
built
Lyon
Village,
he
bought
a
farm
from
somebody,
I
think
called
Creed
and
my
house
was
on
Barton
Street
and
we
appear
to
be
just
one
block
outside
of
what
it
was
legitimately
Lyon
village.
I
But
there
was
a
rumor
that
the
meeting
house
that's.
There
was
the
first
truth
in
advertising
case
in
America,
because
evidently,
when
he
built
this,
he
said
I'll
build
you
a
meeting
house
and
like
most
good
developers
after
the
war
came,
he
thought
well
I'll,
get
away
with
this,
and
somebody
said
what
about
the
meeting
house
and
they.
A
D
J
B
That's
a
good
good
question.
I
would
have
to
read
up
on
that.
I
do
know
that
it
was
an
economic
decision
and
Cornelia
rose
talks
about
she
traced,
Nicholas
Fabray
as
being
the
one
who
was
a
huge
landowner
in
the
sort
of
Wilson
Boulevard
area
and
big
Arlington
family.
She
noted
that
he
was
one
of
the
ones
who
voted
to
retro
seed,
but
she
couldn't.
B
She
couldn't
explain
why
you
know
there's
a
book
that
I'm
about
to
read
the
whose
author
spoke
here
about
two
years
ago
on
the
history
of
chain
bridge
and
I've
skimmed
a
little
bit
of
it
and
it's
it's.
It's
a
pretty
good
economic
history
of
the
region,
a
big
competition
between
Georgetown
and
Old,
Town
Alexandria
for
ship
trade
and
I
suspect
that
the
retrocession
was
related
to
some
of
that
to
the
shipping
yeah.
Yes,
sir,.
B
B
K
B
B
Of
these
ring
a
bell,
I
mean
I
can
respond.
You
know
on
the
surface
because
I'm,
a
superficial
person,
but
no
Roslyn
was
notorious
and
a
lot
of
people
know
this
in
the
latter,
19th
and
early
20th
century
for
pawn
shops
and
gambling
dens
and
brothels,
and
there
was
a
very
interesting
documentary
on
the
history
of
Washington
on
public
television
about
six
or
eight
years
ago.
B
That
talked
about
the
fact
that
the
farmers
from
Fairfax
would
ride
their
horse
strong
carts
in
to
bring
their
produce
to
the
downtown
DC
market,
and
they
would
need
a
security
escort
because
they
would
get
mugged
and
gunned
down
as
they
went
through
Rosslyn
and
you
know:
Michael
Lee
Pope,
whose
book
I
have
his
book
called
st.
publishers,
mind
and
called
Alexandria
DC,
which
deals
a
lot
with
retrocession
by
the
way
I
did
I
did
read
it,
but
he
has
another
book
on
the
sheriff
named
Crandall
Mackey
and
it's
funny.
B
My
wife
and
I
went
to
a
some
kind
of
twenties
ball
at
the
artists
sphere
in
Rosslyn
and
the
drink
they
serve.
That
night
was
the
Crandall
Mackey
in
his
honor,
but
he
busted
up
all
these
gambling
dens
and
brothels
and
may
have
made
a
big
name
for
himself
and
I
think
in
the
20s
and
20s
and
30s
but
Roslyn.
B
You
know
it
still
has
had
its
trouble
with
with
its
identity,
and
it
has
trouble
now
with
nightlife
and,
of
course,
the
artists
sphere,
which
got
some
County
money,
half
a
million
and
Counting
money
and
is
still
struggling
a
little
bit
to
achieve
an
identity
and
the
pawnshop.
The
main
one
moved
up
to
Lyon
Village
right
near
the
lion,
woods
community
center
and
I
just
noticed
that
it
got
bought
out.
B
L
B
The
only
I
can
say
about
that
is
that
mario's
pizza,
which
I
have
a
column
on,
is
right
next
to
about
four
used-car
Lots
and
they're,
all
doomed,
they're,
all
the
whole
strip
between
the
Clarendon
metro
and
the
Virginia
square
metro.
All
these
developers
have
their
eyes
on
it
and
there's
going
to
be
high-rises
there
and
answer
your
hotels,
gourmet
pizza.
B
B
M
D
M
M
B
You
know
another.
You
just
reminded
me
of
a
factoid
about
Wilson
Boulevard
had
a
compound
name
in
the
19th
century.
I-I'll
get
most
of
it
right,
it's
something
like
the
Hampshire
Leesburg
Alexandria
Turnpike.
Something
became
Wilson
Boulevard
after
Woodrow
Wilson,
who
came
to
its
dedication.
Apparently
all
right
keep
going.
Let's
say
this
lady
here.
B
Well,
somebody
made
a
joke
about
that,
because
there's
a
picture
in
the
book
of
the
ball
stand:
skyline
and
the
old
putt-putt
and
a
friend
of
mine
even
gave
me
a
ticket
stub
from
the
old
putt-putt
1964.
But
my
friends
have
been
joking
that
about
whether
they're
gonna,
because
I
just
did
a
column
on
the
plan
to
revamp
Ballston
turn
it
into
Boston
Center.
A
lot
of
big
changes,
a
story
there
and
somebody
said
well,
of
course,
they'll
bring
back
the
putt
putt.
N
Up
in
DC,
so
this
is
not
a
historical
fact
Oy,
but
I
am
just
amazed
at
all
of
the
brand-new
beautiful
slowly,
but
surely
schools
in
Arlington
County
I,
wonder
if
that's
unusual,
whether
we
our
son
is
now
in
Brooklyn
has
been
for
a
number
of
years
and
he
comes
down
here
and
says
my
god.
This
must
be
a
really
rich
County
I,
don't
know
how
unusual
that.
J
B
That's
I'm
sure
the
educators
here
are
pleased
to
hear
that
in
1950
I
believe
it's
fifty
seven,
maybe
eight
Life
magazine
did
a
profile
of
Arlington
schools
in
which
they
said
they
were
among
the
best
in
the
nation.
Whatever
there
was
a
lot
of
post
World
War,
two
effort
to
build
good
schools
and
I
do
have
a
chapter
in
my
book
interviewing
with
Martha
and
Miller.
How
many
have
gotten
her
book?
B
Very
nice,
yeah,
she's,
103
years
old
and
spent
the
last
seventy
of
those
years
in
Arlington
and
self
published
her
autobiography
about
two
years
ago
and
I've
met
her
and
I
used
her
anecdotes
about
the
integration
of
Stratford
junior
high,
where
she
was
a
teacher.
She
was
a
home
AK
teacher
at
the
time,
but
she
talks
a
lot
about
about
how
they
had
to
fight
the
the
Byrd
machine
in
Richmond.
B
You
know,
Arlington
ian's
for
a
better
County
was
formed
in
the
late
40s
and
there
there
was
these
progressive
groups
to
Arlington
ian's
for
better
schools.
I
think
was
one
of
the
groups
and
that
it
was.
It
was
a
matter
of
funding.
You
know
it
was
a
low
priority
for
the
downstate
people
and
the
people
in
Northern
Virginia
or
were
arguing
for
big
percentage
increases.
So,
okay,
we
got
two
more
right
there.
O
Speaking
of
the
fight
for
integration
of
the
schools
as
I
look
at
the
contents
I,
it
seems
to
me
you've
avoided
a
very
rich
field,
namely
the
politics
of
Arlington,
the
the
people
who
came
in
after
during
the
Depression,
the
depression
and
the
Roosevelt
New
Deal,
and
then
the
post-war
period
versus
the
old,
the
old
line,
bird
people.
It.
J
B
You
know
he
ran
the
Sun
and
he
thought
that
the
Nazis
ought
to
be
covered
and
exposed
rather
than
ignored,
which
is
what
a
lot
of
the
other
newspapers
had
decided
to
do,
because
the
Nazis
were
such
publicity
hounds.
But
Herman
is
a
conservative
and
he
bought
the
northern
genius
son
in
1959
or
60
from
these
New
Deal
types
and
that's
what
he
calls
them
and
they
were
trying
to
set
it
up
in
Arlington
as
a
Pro,
Roosevelt
kind
of
a
publication,
and
he
flipped
that
around
so
I'll
get
to
it.
Vivian
thanks
yeah
the.
J
The
the
garage
and
Roslyn,
where
Woodward
met
with
Mark
felt
all
those
years
ago,
was
there
ever
any
impetus
to
make
it
a
national
landmark
and
what
area?
What
spot
in
Arlington
for
you
should
be
a
landmark,
should
be
known,
but
isn't
by
people
who
don't
live
in
this
area.
People
who
haven't
grown
up
in
Arlington
well.
B
That's
a
good
question:
I
did
read
that
the
decision
was
made
just
six
weeks
ago
to
tear
down
that
parking
lot,
that
where
Bob
Woodward
met
mark
felt
his
FBI
a
secret
source
and
the
Builder
who's
going
to
build
a
high-rise
has
promised
to
commemorate.
It
was
some
kind
of
plaque.
I,
don't
think
he's
decided
on
the
details.
B
B
You
know
the
fact
that
the
internet
Scot
it
started.
Arlington
is
something
that
I'm
very
proud
of
and
that
it
was
a
another
series
of
flukes
that
that
you
know
Al
Gore
was
mocked
for
allegedly
saying
he
invented
the
internet,
but
Al
Gore
lived
in
Arlington,
you
know,
and
the
real
internet
was
indeed
invented
in
Arlington
and
there's
a
historic
sign
there
in
Rosen
and
I
have
a
picture
of
it
in
the
book
and
again
I've
driven
in
cars
with
people
who
just
go
right
by
it
and
don't
don't
even
notice
it.
Q
Following
up
on
the
discussion
that
you
had
about
the
Woodward
and
Bernstein
and
the
historical
marker
that
sits
there
at
the
garage,
if
you
pay
close
attention
to
that
historical
marker
which
may
or
not
mayor
and
that
may
or
may
not
come
back
and
be
placed
when
they
build
the
new
garage
there.
But
the
the
marker
doesn't
mention
the
words
deep
throat.
No.
B
Q
The
reason
for
that
is
that
the
historic
are
like
an
historical
fairs
and
landmark
Review
Board
had
to
plead
on
had
a
debate
as
to
whether
the
words
deep
throat
should
be
mentioned.
On
the
historical
marker
and
the
vote,
there
was
a
recorded
vote.
I
think
it
was
like
seven
to
eight
or
something
like
that.
That
is
a
great
factoid.
You.