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A
B
A
Day
at
least,
I
think
three
or
four
days
a
week,
they
have
these
trainings
that
she's
a
part
of
that
she's
training,
all
of
us
webmasters
and
most
of
us
that
they
have
so
many
because
we
can't
most
of
us
can't
attend
we're
busy.
So
they
just
have
them
and
record
them.
Have
them
and
record
them.
B
B
That'll
be
good.
We
have
no
idea.
We
have
no
idea
how
many
will
come,
but
we
we
hope,
it'll
be
a
good.
You
know
a
good
turnout.
A
B
A
Oh
yeah
absolutely
yeah
the
black
employee
council,
which
I'm
part
of
leadership.
We
have
our
june
1st
annual
juneteenth
about
three
years
I
believe
ago,
and
we
went
to
about
two,
maybe
150,
to
200
people
attending
live
to
well
over
5
000
and
still
growing
wow,
because
we
had,
we
had
youtube
face
facebook
and
the
county
as
well
so
wow.
A
B
B
C
Well,
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
hope,
but
jackie
was
telling
me
that
my
computer
would
talk
to
me,
but
so
far
we
haven't
figured
out
how
to
make
that
happen.
I
know
you
could
do
that
years
ago,
but
I
don't
know
that
it's
still
alive.
D
B
Well,
we're
hoping
that
it'll
be
shorter,
I
mean
normally,
it
ends
at
7
30,
but
because
we've
got
tomorrow
night
we're
going
to
try
to
we're
going
to
we
we're
going
to
try
to
get
through
the
list
fairly
quickly.
Hey
mike,
hey
jackie,
hey
there,
so
that's
so
martha,
we'll.
D
D
B
C
B
Well,
it
should
be
well.
No,
it
was
a
group
effort,
but
I
I
certainly
I
certainly
hope
we
get
a
good
I'd
love
for
us
to
get
a
good
crowd
for
our
first.
You
know
and
it'll.
You
know
mike,
as
I
mentioned
to
you,
you
know
the
guy
you
identified
is,
and
I
also
have
a
there's-
a
connect,
a
woman
who's,
a
behavioralist
at
george
mason
university,
a
faculty
member
who's
done
some
really
interesting
work
in
privacy.
So
there
are
a
couple
of
others
that
you
know.
B
Oh
good
good,
so
you
know
we'll
all
learn.
This
is
going
to
be
a
a
good,
a
good
dry
run
for
us
and
so
and
the
panelists
are
really
looking
forward
to
it.
Hey
frank:
how
you
doing
long
time!
Long
time,
frank,
I
just
never
see
you
anymore.
You
know.
B
F
Hey,
hey
everybody
happy
new
year
happy
new
year
stopping
by
to
to
you
know,
listen
in
a
little
bit
and
you
know
wish
everybody
very
happy
new
year
excited
about
the
events
tomorrow.
D
F
F
B
D
F
Know,
and
it's
it's
always
a
you
know,
sometimes
you
know
feeling
the
calendars
with
all
the
right
input
and
prioritizing
prioritizing
dates
and
counter
calendar
entries
properly
is
an
art
and
that's.
D
F
I
cannot
say
that
we
are
mastering
this
art,
always
this,
but
most
of
the
times
so
and
and
thanks
to
tech,
we
can
actually
make
I
mean
imagine
if
we
had
also
to
to
to
drive
or
take
transportation
from
one
place
to
the
other
right.
B
B
Yes,
oh
well,
welcome
we're
so
glad
you
could.
You
could
join
and
john,
I
think
you've
you've
joined
as
well.
Hey
john.
G
Yep
I
am
joining
from
dinner.
B
B
No
public
comment
and
we
wanted
to
go
over
the
the
event
tomorrow.
We
just
wanted
to
to
get
a
get
us
run
through
just
an
overview
of
of
what
will
happen
and
we
don't
know
we
don't
know
how
many
people
will
come,
but
we
certainly
tacos
we're
delighted
that
you're
here
and
that
you
will
I'm
sure,
make
make
presents
at
some
point
tomorrow
on
that
important
topic:
hey
louise,
how
you
doing
and
so
we'll
have
we'll
start
at
six.
B
The
panelists
will
come
on
about
5
45,
so
we
can
do
sound
check
and
some
of
them
have
presentations.
So
we
just
want
to
check
and
make
sure
that
they're
ready
and
then
we'll
have
the
four
panelists
hey
gary.
The
four
panelists
will
have
introductory
remarks
and
we've
said
they
need
to
limit
those
to
10
minutes,
not
more
than
10
minutes.
B
We
will
intervene
if
indeed
they
get
carried
away
and
go
beyond,
and
then
there
are
questions
that
we've
sent
to
them
and
to
prepare
them
for
some
of
them
and
then
there'll
be
questions
from
the
chat
from
the
public
and
the
mike
cornfield
has
agreed
to
look
at
the
chat
and
and
ask
questions
because
we'll
keep
people
will
be
muted
and,
and
so
mike
will
be
the
conduit
to
identify,
what's
in
the
chat
and
be
able
to
look
at
that
and
then
and
then
ask
questions
so
basically
it'll
be
half
presentation,
half
half
questions
and,
as
I
was
saying
earlier
before,
the
meeting
started
this
really,
since
this
is
our
first
one.
B
This
is
really
we'll
learn
a
lot
right.
I
mean
this
is
in
our
are
co-sponsoring
with
the
emergency
preparedness
advisory
commission,
we'll
both
both
commissions
will
learn
a
lot
about.
You
know
what
what
worked,
what
didn't
work
and
and
how?
How
we
move
forward,
and
one
of
the
other
things
that
we
had
mentioned
is
the
you
know.
Obviously,
we'll
save
the
chat
and
angela.
B
Thank
you,
angela
for
doing
double
duty
and
coming
two
days
in
a
row
that
will
also
record
it,
and
so,
as
talk
is
mentioned,
there
is
a
planning
commission
meeting
and
an
audit
meeting
as
well,
and
so,
although
the
board
members
we've
contacted
have
who
are
will
be
in
those
various
meetings,
would
love
a
recording,
so
they
want
to
listen
to
the
recording
and
we,
it
is
on
the
county
calendar.
B
It's
in
arlington,
now
send
it
out
to
all
the
commission.
Members
commissioned
chairs
who've,
come
back
and
and
of
course
the
civic
federation
as
well.
So
we
will
we'll
see
we'll
see
what
the
you
know,
what
what
interests
the
public
has
and
what
questions
the
public
has
for
for
the
panelists
and
the
pant.
We
have
interacted
with
the
panelists
they're
looking
forward
to
it.
We
have
some,
I
think,
some
real
interesting
perspectives
and
and
our
goal,
as
you
know,
is
really
to
educate
and
frame
frame.
B
This
debate
about,
where
kind
of
is
the
balance
between
privacy
and
convenience
and
specifically,
what
what
do
arlington
ready
residents
really
want
right.
B
What's
because
every
I
think,
it's
contextual,
I
think
every
every
municipality
probably
will
come
up
with
a
little
bit
different
approach,
which
is
why
I'm
glad
we
have
yo
from
from
boston
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
they've
one
of
the
things
he's
going
to
talk
about
is
how
they
have
engaged
their
citizenry
in
terms
of
being
part
of
the
dialogue,
which
I
think
will
find
really
interesting,
and
as
we
mentioned,
this
isn't
the
last
one
we'll
do.
B
It
is
the
first
one
we've
done,
but
we
certainly
hope
that
there'll
be
more
dialogue
and
we're
even
looking
at
doing
a
survey
mike
cornfield
is,
as
you
know,
volunteered
to
spearhead
that
a
survey
to
the
residencies,
because
some
residents,
because
some
of
you
have
noted
you
know
we
want
to
kind
of
do
a
broader,
broader
swath
in
terms
of
getting
as
many
residents
involved
as
possible,
giving
us
feedback
about
what
that
you
know
what
that
balance.
B
What
that
balance
is
so
I
hope
all
of
you
will
be
able
to
come
and
and
engage
in
terms
of
you
know.
If
you,
you
have
questions
put
them
in
the
in
the
chat
and
I'm
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
hearing
these
different
perspectives.
I
think
it'll
be
be
interesting
for
all
of
us.
Do
you
all
have
any
any
questions
about
the
the
program
for
tomorrow
and
you
have
the
invite
just
want
to
check
and
make
sure
you
have
the
invite.
E
B
H
Mary,
I
think
it's
been
about
a
year
since
we
were
visited
by
a
member
of
the
county
staff
who
came
to
speak
to
us
about
her
assignment
drafting
a
privacy
policy,
and
I
know
this
sounds
very
elementary
in
the
context
of
what
we're
doing
tomorrow.
In
any
future
days,
is
the
county
intending
to
publish
a
comprehensive
countrywide
policy
about
privacy
and,
if
so,
who
has
been
assigned
that
task.
B
Yeah,
I
think
you
know
we
sent
out
the
the
link
that
the
county
is
kind
of
collecting
the
the
policies
that
to
deal
with
specific
portions
of
data
talk
us.
If
you
would
like
to
to
comment
from
your
perspective
about
what
the
board's
expectation
is
about
kind
of
an
overarching
policy
I'll
I'll
hand
it
to
you
to
you.
F
Mary,
this
is
in
I
mean
there
in
the
last
year
or
and
before
that
we
had
several
questions
about.
You
know
when,
when
projects
come
before
us,
also
in
the
context
of
the
entire
response
to
call
it
etc,
because
you
know
we
automatized
a
lot
of
county
processes,
we
collect
a
lot
more
data.
F
We
have
so
the
the
board
has
encouraged
the
the
department
to
think
about
all
our
processes
in
a
global
in
a
in
a
holistic
way
and
report
and
report
back
on
what
pathways
of
optimization
we
have
there
under
the
condition
that
we
take
into
account
privacy
concerns,
etc,
and
that
we
definitely
we
signal
to
the
department
to
the
county
manager
that
we
are
very
interested
in
the
department
having
a
proactive
stance
in
in
in
got
in
you
know,
creating
policy
there.
Now,
I'm
not.
F
I
haven't
checked
with
the
department
whether
they
are
advanced
in
that,
and
definitely
this
is
in
the.
This
is
not
a
fixed
term
deliverable
at
this
point,
but
it
may
become
a
fixed
term
deliverable,
especially
as
we
come
out
from
the
covet.
You
know
response
mode.
F
It's
not
that
we
are
not
going
to
continue
responding
to
calling,
but
we
we
we
are
adapting
to
a
new
normal
and,
as
you
know,
the
the
especially
this
department
was
under
extreme
pressure
to
deliver
for
the
county
and
for
citizens
and
for
the
for
the
employees,
and
so
they
had
a
lot
on
their
plate
at
the
same
time.
F
So
this
is
probably
the
year
where,
where
we
can
look
at
other
things,
besides
organizing
the
the
the
digitalization
of
county
of
county
government
right,
I
mean
the
the
immediate
immediate
calls
of
digitalization
of
county
government.
So
I
take
that
with
me.
I
make
a
note-
and
I
will
be
happy
to
to
report
on
that-
and
john
belcher
will
be
there
tomorrow,
and
this
is
a
good
question
to
for
him
to
answer
right
where
how
the
thinking
is
going
in
this
department,
et
cetera
and
by
the
way.
F
This
is
one
of
the
things
that,
when
it
begins
to
be
tangible,
the
board
will
come
back
to
this
commission
and
ask
for
your
input,
and
for
for
you
know
your
your
advice
on
on
on
this.
That's
very
clear.
B
Yeah,
exactly
and
jack
will,
I'm
sure
make
comments
about
what
the
framing
is
for
tomorrow
I
mean
he's
coming
prepared
to
to
say
what
the
current,
what
the
current
status
is
to
give
us
a
you
know
a
pulse
on
that
for
sure,
because
he'll
have
his.
You
know
his
remarks
before
he
before
he
fields.
Questions
tomorrow.
F
Mind
you
that
the
bandwidth
of
the
of
the
departure
was
really
extremely
used.
We
we
really
drove
this
department
to
the
limits
of
its
capacity.
Actually
many
things
the
department
didn't
have
anybody
to
to
to
deliver
on
other
essentials.
We
are
happy
that
that
that
they
could
do
what
they
did
through
the
18
months
of
covet
already.
So
this
is
now
it
begins
to
change,
and
we
we
are
seeing
you
know,
hopefully
more
more
bandwidth
for
for
this
kind
of
policy
work.
F
I
mean
I'm
I'm
trying
to
be
optimistic
here,
but
at
least
it's
not
it's
really
different
than
a
year
ago.
Well,
at
least
we
know
what
we're
dealing
with
and
we
we
have
a
pathway
of
normalization
that
is
viable
and
we
know
what's
what,
but
we
have
an
idea
of
what
happens
the
next
day
back
then
we
really
were
just
pondering
risks
every
day.
B
Yes,
yes,
thank
you
targus
any
we'll
move
to.
If
there's
no
other
questions
we'll
move
to
legislative
update
from
frank,
any
any
final
questions
on
program
you
all
are
set.
You
know
your!
You
have
your
link
and
hope
hope
you
all
be
able
to
attend
and
bring
your
friends
frank
over
to
you
for
for
legislative
update.
B
B
B
You
know
we're
still
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we've
we've
prepared
for
decision
making
around
cyber
from
a
policy.
D
B
Of
view,
frank,
are
you
back.
I
All
right
all
right,
somehow
the
setting
changed.
Thank
you
teams.
Maybe
it
was
the
faa.
I
was
going
to
actually
report
on
5g
our
fate,
one
of
our
favorite
topics
that
you've
probably
all
seen
reports
in
the
in
the
media,
about
a
dispute
regarding
5g
activation
by
verizon,
and
mainly
at
verizon
and
att
on
c-band
frequencies,
and
concerns
that
it
might
affect
airplane
altimeters.
I
Well,
it
turns
out
there
is
a
temporary
agreement
between
the
faa,
the
wireless
industry,
the
airline
air
industry
and
the
fcc
looks
like
the
the
dispute
is
easing.
The
faa
has
now
approved
a
substantial
number
of
the
alternate
altimeters
reports.
I
read
reagan.
National
was
not
one
of
the
airports
that
was
affected
by
this
immediately,
so
so
it.
But
there
were,
I
think,
about
50
airports
around
the
country
where
reduced
power
and
antenna
locations
near
airports
were
at
least
temporarily
affected.
I
These
frequencies
are
being
used
in
over
40
countries
around
around
the
globe
and
it
appears
that
the
like,
I
said
that
there's
faa
is
working
to
make
sure
that
that
the
altimeters
will
function
in
a
5g
environment.
So
this
actually
spectrum
was
approved
by
the
fc4
used
for
a
5g
over
two
years
ago
and
what
then
was
auctioned
off
for
over
80
billion
dollars.
I
The
fcc
went
through
comment
in
rulemaking
proceeding
and
issued
a
256
page
decision,
so
it
really
considered
the
faa
and
air
airline
industry
concerns
and
took
it
into
account
and
believes
that
the
significant
buffer
zone
that
it
in
use
of
the
spectrum
was
sufficient
to
make
sure
that
the
5g
can
coexist
with
with
the
altimeters
so
so
stay
tuned.
On
that
one
but
looks,
looks
like
it's.
It's
not.
You
know
not
the
type
of
thing
you
want
to
see
concerns
about,
possibly
thousands
of
flight
cancellations.
I
It
looks
like
that's.
You
know
that
omicron
and
and
the
weather
has
doing
their
best
to
make
sure
that's
the
reason
for
cancellations.
I
don't
think
5g
is
going
to
be
the
reason,
at
least
any
significant
at
this
point.
I
Another
matter
this
is
a
follow-on
to
the
emergency
broadcast
benefit,
which
was
on
the
early
parts
of
the
pandemic.
Now
the
fcc
has
launched
the
affordable
connect
connectivity
program
acp,
which
is
14
billion
dollar
successor
program
to
the
emergency
broadband
benefit
ebb
program
eligible
households
can
receive
up
to
30
dollars
a
month
discount
towards
broadband
internet
service
eligible
households
can
also
receive
a
one-time
discount
of
up
to
a
hundred
dollars
to
purchase
laptop,
desktop
or
other
tablet
device.
A
household
is
eligible
for
acp.
I
If
a
member
of
the
household
meets
it's
at
least
one
of
the
following
criteria:
income
at
or
below
200
of
the
federal
poverty
guideline,
participation
in
certain
assistance
programs
such
as
snap,
medicaid,
ssi,
wic
federal
public
housing
assistance
or
the
lifeline
phone
program,
tribal,
specific
program,
participation
in
school
lunch
or
breakfast
programs,
households
haven't
received
pell
grant
during
the
current
pandemic
and
the
existing
eligibility
for
internet
providers
existing
low-income
programs
such
as
the
comcast
essentials
at
internet
essentials.
I
So
anyway,
so
it
looks
like
the
continuing
efforts
to
bridge
the
digital
divide.
Continue
like
men.
Research
has
found
that
87
of
us
homes
have
internet
service
up
from
69
in
2006.,
high-speed
broadband
accounts
for
98
of
the
households,
with
that
of
that
87
up
from
42
in
2006.,
t-mobile
has
reported
that
it
has
surpassed
its
year-end
goal
of
reaching
500
000
fixed
wireless
access
broadband
subscribers
with
plans
to
increase
that
to
seven
to
eight
million
subscribers
within
five
years,
verizon,
which
is
making
fwa
fixed
wireless
access.
I
A
real
big
part
of
its
business
plan
going
forward
has
added
55
000
fwa
subscribers
by
the
end
of
the
third
quarter
of
2021
for
a
total
of
150
000
subs.
So
it's
growing
rapidly
as
well
with
with
that
offering
verizon
expects
to
pass
15
million
homes
with
fwa
at
the
start
of
2022
in
65
cities
and
team.
I
T-Mobile
has
cut
its
home
internet
price
by
ten
dollars
a
month
and
verizon
has
a
promotion
to
pay
up
to
five
hundred
dollars
in
early
termination
fees
to
to
customers
that
switch
to
its
fwa
service.
I
At
its
january,
open
meeting
which
is
scheduled
for
tomorrow.
The
fcc
will
be
considering
a
notice
of
proposed
rulemaking
to
require
broadband
internet
access
service
providers
to
display
display
at
point-of-sale
labels
to
disclose
information
regarding
prices
introductory
rates,
data
allowances,
broadband
speeds
and
management
practices,
among
other
things,
is
being
likened
to
nutrition.
Labels
on
food
so
give
full
disclosure
will
hopefully
make
smarter
consumers
of
our
wireless
and
internet
internet
service
providers.
I
A
report
by
high
speed
internet
dot
com
ranked
washington
dc
as
the
metropolitan
area
with
the
fastest
internet
speed
in
the
country
at
129.1
megabits
per
second.
So
we're
doing
we're
hopping
along
there
robocalls
the
client,
martha
declined
by
18
in
december
2021
when
compared
to
november
and
by
20
percent
year
over
year.
According
to
transaction
network
services,
fcc
chairwoman,
jessica
rosenmorsel
has
circulated
a
proposal
to
promote
competition,
increased
choice
for
broadband
services
for
people
living
and
working
in
multi
tenant
environments.
I
If
adopted,
the
fcc
would
prohibit
providers
from
entering
into
graduated
revenue,
sharing
agreements
or
exclusive
revenue
sharing
groups
with
a
building
owner's
owner.
I
would
require
providers
to
disclose
to
tenants,
in
plain
language
the
existence
of
exclusive
marketing
arrangements
that
they
may
have
with
building
owners,
and
it
would
end
a
practice
that
circumvents
the
fcc's
inside
wiring
rules
by
clarifying
that
existing
fcc
rules
prohibit
sale
and
lease
back
arrangements
that
effectively
block
access
to
alternative
providers.
I
The
infrastructure
legislation
that
was
been
signed
into
law
includes
500
million
dollars
for
smart
city
grants
which
can
be
used
for
a
variety
of
projects
such
as
smart
grid,
autonomous
vehicles
and
connected
vehicles.
So
so
there
are
a
lot
of
opportunities
out
there.
So
that's
my
report
for
this
month.
C
I
have
a
question:
how
far
along
are
we
on
whatever
the
rules
are
going
to
be
for
limiting
what
a
building
can
do.
I
C
I
C
H
Frank,
thank
you
for
the
summary
you
sent
earlier
today
with
virginia's
own
state
privacy
law.
It
sort
of
raises
two
questions
of
my
mind.
One
is,
as
we
think
about
municipal
policy,
that
piece
of
legislation
and
its
implementation
is
clearly
relevant
and
it's
going
to
set
the
constraints
into
what
under
which
a
county
within
virginia
can
participate
in
such
polish
making.
So
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
spend
some
more
time
with
that
and
I'm
grateful
that
you
sent
the
summary
the
other
part
and
I'm
not
a
lawyer,
the
other
part.
H
It
seems
that,
on
the
one
hand,
it's
good
news
to
have
such
a
privacy
state
law.
On
the
other
hand,
it
it
seems
to
remove
the
right
from
individual
citizens
to
pursue
remedies
in
civil
court
and
to
require
them
to
funnel
their
concerns
through
the
state
attorney
general's
office,
and
did
I
read
that
correctly.
I
I
I
think
that
is
right,
but
I'm
not.
I
have
not
drilled
down
fully
on
it
myself.
Yet
at
this
point,
I
think
there
probably
will
be
a
period
where
sort
of
implementing
rules
and
regulations
will
be
taking
place.
I
think
it
doesn't
actually
kick
in
until
gen
the
main
parts
of
the
law
until
january
1,
2023
so
2023..
So
it's
going
to
be
I'm
sure
very
much
in
the
news,
as
businesses
also
adjust
to
make
sure
that
they're
in
compliance
going
forward.
J
J
Hi
everyone
kevin
brought
her
from
comcast
frank,
had
mentioned
the
transition
from
the
emergency
broadband
benefit
to
the
affordable
connectivity
program.
So
just
wanted
to
remind
the
panel
here
that
we
are
active
participants
in
that
and
we
are
promoting
that
to
our
customers
and
non-customers
alike
too,
so
that
30
a
month
credit
or
rebate
you
get
from
the
federal
government.
If
it's
applied
to
an
internet
essentials,
customer
they'd
be
getting
internet
service
at
no
cost
to
them,
so
that
they'll
be
free
of
charge
to
the
to
the
customer.
J
For
those
that
want
a
higher
tier
of
service.
That
30
hours
would
then
be
applied
to
the
here
to
their
tier
servers
to
help
them
make
broadband
more
affordable.
So
we
are
out
there
actively
promoting
that
to
customers
and
non-customers
alike
and
talking
to
community
groups
and
making
sure
that
everybody's
aware
of
that
pretty
significant
benefit.
B
Thanks
kevin,
I
have
a
I
have
a
question
in
tacos.
Maybe
you
can
frank
mentioned
the
500
million
for
smart
city
grants.
Do
we
have
someone
on
our
county
team?
That's
looking
at
positioning
arlington
for
any
of
that.
F
F
F
Yes,
it
has,
and
as
far
as
I
remember,
I'm
trying
to
remember
now-
and
I
will
be
happy
to
you-
know-
use
the
sophisticated,
artificial
intelligence
supported
search
functions
on
my
computer
to
to
find
there.
There
was
a
there
was
a
briefing
at
some
point
on
this,
and-
and
it
was
really
I
was
thinking
of
that,
as
the
concept
was
striking
me
as
interesting,
yet
not
novel
and
having
a
lot
of
you
know,
there
are
a
lot
of
premises.
F
You
know
focusing
privacy
but
also
other
operational
issues.
I
mean
you
know
having
a
heuristic
ability
to
predict
where
you
have
parking
space
available
and
so
and
how
do
you
sense
that
and
how
do
you,
who
who
manages
that
and
how
etc?
So
this
is
we
had
this
conversation
and
it
was
an
ongoing.
This
discussion
was
just
an
informational
item.
At
some
point,
I
will
find
it.
I
will.
I
will
circle
back
to
you
on
this.
F
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
there's
the
I
I'm
not
getting
any
any
rev.
Oh
jackie,
okay,
go
ahead.
E
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
the
smart
grid,
part
of
that
grant-
if
I
heard
it
right-
is
also
one
that
we
should
be
very
interested
in,
because
that
has
the
capability
of
reducing
power.
Outages
for
people
and
arlington
has
a
significant.
E
I
think,
since
I'm
certainly
part
of
that
group,
significant
number
of
power
outages
some
that
even
last
extended
time
and
that
one
of
the
main
purposes
of
the
smart
grid
is
to
be
able
to
move
your
power
sources
around
so
that
you
can
continue
power
even
if
one
portion
of
the
grid
is
impacted
rather
than
taking
it
all
down,
and
I
think
that's
something
where,
with
all
of
the
other
things
we're
doing
it
with
technology
having
continuity
of
power,
access
is
important
for
every
single
one
of
them.
F
D
F
But
because
our
demands
have
grown
to
be
very
sensitive
to
the
absence
of
such
assurance,
so
that
so
it
is
today
really
very
counterproductive
in
arlington
and
we
we
don't
even
can
we
cannot
even
you
know,
advertise
for
certain
companies
to
come
here
unless
we
show
that
we
are,
you
know,
really
top
of
the
line
to
all
the
nation
in
terms
of
delivery,
safety,
etc.
There
is
a
an
energy
assurance
study
going
on
in
parallel.
F
So
if
you,
if
you're
interested
in
that
as
well,
I
will
be
happy
to
to
let
you
know
this.
This.
The
study
will
be
completed
this
year
and
there
are
also
ramifications
so
that
at
the
regional
level
about
that
dominion
power
just
today
reported
on
their
new
policies
on
this
at
the
cog
level,
so
happy
to
discuss
that
offline.
E
I'm
very
interested
in
any
additional
information.
It
would
take
some.
You
know:
we've
got
lots
of
things
on
our
plate
as
a
technology
committee,
but
in
terms
of
vulnerability
of
population,
not
necessarily
the
county
as
a
whole,
but
as
as
as
some
of
us
age,
we
become
more
and
more
aware
of
the
importance
of
power,
vulnerability
and
predictability.
E
Also
because,
unless
you're
going
to
be
someone
you'd
be
assuming
that
all
of
the
elderly
have
whole
house
backup,
which
is
very
expensive,
as
we
depend
more
on
electricity
for
medical
devices
and
as
well
as
communication,
even
to
say,
I
need
help
it.
It
becomes
more
and
more
a
sort
of
first
line
of
defense
to
have
power.
F
Oh,
I
absolutely
agree.
I
absolutely
agree
you're
absolutely
right.
So
this
is.
This
is
a
separate
and
parallel
process
with
our
fox
at
des,
and
I
will
keep
you
oppressed
about
this.
B
Thanks
thanks
so
much
and
now
we'll
move
on
to
focus
areas
for
2022..
We
talked
a
little
bit,
as
I
said
before
in
december,
and
the
four
that
seemed
to
come
to
the
surface
were
cyber
and
takus.
This
will
come
back
to
you
in
terms
of
the
having
a
an
exercise
at
the
board
level
about
decision
making
about
some
of
those
issues
when
faced
with
with
a
cyber
incident.
Also
digital
planning.
You
know
how:
how
does
the?
B
How
does
arlington
plan
for
digital
across
the
board
in
its
comprehensive
plan,
and
then
digital
privacy
and
the
the
one
that
frank
and
I
added
that
we
didn't
really
discuss
in
december-
was
the
pub
our
and
this
is
really
a
mandate
of
ours-
of
the
public
engagement
role
for
the
the
franchise.
B
So
we
do
have
a.
We
will
be
doing
that
this
year.
We
don't
know
what
the
timing
is
yet,
but
we
will.
We
will
be
asked
to
to
make
sure
that
we
we
fulfill
that
role.
So
that's
certainly
one
of
the
one
of
the
priorities
for
for
22
as
well,
so
those
those
are
pretty
big
chunks.
B
Those
are
pretty
big
pieces
and
if
we
can,
I
think,
if
we
can,
we
can
make
headway
in
these,
and
these
we
will.
We
will
do
our
our
civic
duty.
Any
any
comments,
questions
about
that
that
focus
john.
G
Mary,
are
you,
including
the
recommendation
to
adopt,
invest,
I.t
investment
management
as
part
of
the
digital
planning
aspect
in
under
the
digital
planning?
Okay,.
B
Absolutely
john
yeah
yeah
yeah
so
we'll
make
we'll
we'll
put
that
underneath
those
so
that
and
and
we
will
be
meeting
with
tacos
next
week,
so
he'll
we'll
be
we,
you
know
we
we
have
our
perspective
about
the
and
we
are
here
to
advise
the
board.
So
we
we
have
an
alignment
discussion
scheduled
next
week,
frank
and
I
to
say:
okay,
what
what's
on
your
list
in
terms
of
looking
at
how
we
can
that's
advise
so.
F
Timely
because
we're
approaching
budget
decision
time-
and
this
is
where
these
things
typically
are
reviewed
and
prioritized
and
decided
upon
so
this.
B
Abs,
absolutely
absolutely
jackie.
E
Yes,
in
that
last
context,
mary
one
of
the
two
of
the
organizations
I'd
like
to
see
that
we
think
about
how
to
get
a
presentation
from
them,
because
we've
spent
less
time.
I
think
there
than
other
areas
would
be
from
management,
business
management
on
contract
management
particularly
related
to
it,
but
also
the
auditor,
maybe
maybe
together,
but
the
auditor
on
the
audit
that
has
been
done
on
it
contracts
and
contracts
management.
E
There
were
quite
a
few
things
that
were
identified
by
that
audit
as
requiring
work
by
the
office
of
budget
and
management,
and
so
I
that's
something
that
I'd
like
to
make
sure
we
pursue
getting
better
briefed
on.
I
E
The
management
of
our
it
contracts
and
census
and
the
other
part,
is
a
substantial
part
of
our
it.
Work
is
completed
through
contracts.
If
we're
you
know,
the
management
of
our
contract
is
the
management
of
our
work.
It's
also
where
a
lot
of
the
potential
privacy
concerns
are
in
in
the
management
of
I
itt
contractors.
E
So
to
me
as
a
part
of
our
digital
plan.
If
we
have
a
very
high
percentage
of
it
being
completed
by
contractors,
then
the
audit
and
the
requirements
for
managing
those
contractors
becomes
particularly
important,
and
we
do
have
an
audit
that
indicated
that
there
were
some
significant
gaps.
B
And
that
is
one
of
the
questions
we've
I
shared
with
you
and
tacos
I'll.
Send
you
a
copy
as
well
the
the
questions
that
we
gave
to
the
panelists
ahead
of
time,
and
that
is
one
of
the
questions.
What's
the
what
expectations
do
we
have
from
our
contractors
in
terms
of
handling
data?
What's
what's
in
the
contract,
so
we've
asked
that
you
know
that
that
question
will
be
be
one
of
the
items
tomorrow.
F
F
If
there
is
an
additional
desire
to
discuss
the
audits
that
we
did
in
contract
management,
I
would
be
happy
to
to
master
the
resources
and
to
discuss
with
dr
horton,
to
maybe
brief
you
on
on
this
separately.
Actually,
I
think
this
would
be
a
good
idea,
great,
you
know,
in
compliance
with
with
follow-ups,
etc.
This
is
what
he
did.
Okay,.
B
Right
this
is
the
one
it's
it's
in
terms
of
what
we'll
do
in
22
phil
this
one
is
the
public
engagement,
our
role
with
the
franchise?
You
know
it
because
the
franchise
agreements
are
being
looked
at
again.
We
don't
know
what
the
what
the
schedule
is
yet
they're
working
that
out,
but
at
some
point
this
year
we
will
play
a
role
in
that.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
have
that
on
our
on
our
radar
as
one
of
the
items,
one
of
the
actions
we'll
be
engaged
in.
B
You're
welcome
and
that
does
lead
us
to
the
the
topic
suggestions
for
second
panel.
We
we
had
so
many
responses
from
from
organizing
this
one
that
we're
we're
looking
ahead
and,
as
I
mentioned
to
you
mike
cornfield,
couldn't
be
here
tonight,
because
one
there's
a
his
his
dog
is,
he
has
to
put
down
his
dog.
B
So
that's
a
you
know,
family
member
of
15
years,
so
we
we
gave
him
a
bye
tonight,
but
he
will
look
at
the
the
survey
you
know
we'll
next
month
we'll
be
looking
at
that
and
then
mike
you
had
suggested
a
privacy
expert
from
new
york
city
as
being
one
of
the
people.
B
We
look
at
for
a
forum
and
then
I
was
talking
about
the
woman
who,
from
the
faculty
member
from
george
mason
university
who's
done
a
lot
of
work
in
privacy,
but
I
think
we
can
talk
some
about
that
today,
but
I
think
after
the
forum
tomorrow
after
we
get
a
reaction
from
the
public,
we
may
have
other
other
ideas
about
where,
where
the
public
really
wants
more
more
information,
but
certainly
would
love
to
hear
any
other
suggestions
for
the
second
panel,
jackie.
E
Yes,
the
suggestion
that
we
got
from
actually
from
the
chair
of
our
legislative
affairs
committee
at
civ
fed
is
that
we
need
some
more
representation
of
sort
of
ground
level,
public
level
concerns
or
understanding.
E
E
I
wrote
back
and
asked
him
if
he
had
some
suggestions,
but
I
also,
I
also
know
that
we
have
locally
representatives
from
the
fbi's
infragard,
which
is
a
public-private
partnership
that
basically
works
with
companies
for
early
identification
and
sort
of
anonymous
disclosure
of
what
the
latest
trends
are,
and
I
know
they
have
some
people
who
would
be
able
to
talk
to
us
about
that
more.
I
guess
more
pragmatic,
like
what
is
it
you
should
be
concerned
about,
and
and
how
do
you
look
for
it.
E
At
a
more
yes
at
an
individual
level,
but
it
applies
also
at
the
county
level
and
the
person
who
suggested
it
ron
you
may
hear
from
because
it's
this
is
one
of
his
jobs
for
the
post
office,
so
he
he's
very
familiar
with
it.
B
Okay,
all
right-
and
I
am
I
am
not
I'm
not
getting
any
fees
for
recommending
this
book
up
front.
I
just
think
you
might
be
interested.
It's
called
burn
in.
If
any
of
you
have
it's
a
it's
set
in
arlington
and
it's
a
novel
about
the
future
of
robotics
and
artificial
intelligence.
B
So
I'm
I'm
enjoying
reading
it.
So
I
I
thought
you
all
might
might
find
it
it's
by
singer
and
cole.
Singer
was
the
guy
who
wrote
ghost
fleet
and
again
I
have
no.
I
have
no
no
connection,
I'm
just
reading
the
book
and
finding
it
one
because
it's
in
arlington
and
two
because
it
gives
us
some
idea
of
future
tech
and
how
it'll
impact
us
and-
and
I
think
why
it's
so
important
to
think
about
the
policies
surrounding
some
of
the
tech.
B
K
K
B
K
I
would
like
to
see
us
have
a
rationale
for
the
status
quo,
which
appears
to
be
a
fully
distributed.
Accountability
for
private
personal
privacy
protection
or
consideration
of
a
focused
responsibility
within
within
county
government.
B
I
think
there's
so
I
think
it'll
be
important
for
us
to
revisit
that
once
we
get
a
handle
on
what
what
the
discussions
are
tomorrow
phil,
but
what
I
think
what
I
hear
you're
saying
is
look
at
the
moment.
It
seems
to
be
a
distributed
responsibility
and
what
you're
saying
is:
is
there
let's,
let's
ask
the
question:
would
it
be
better,
would
the
privacy
of
arlington
residents
be
served
better
if
it
was
an
integrated
focal
point
with
perhaps
the
cio
is
that
am
I.
B
G
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
structure
an
organization
for
it
to
be
successful
and
there's
a
lot
of
mechanical
operational
considerations
and
constraints
that
the
county,
government
or
any
organization
has
to
deal
with
that
their
stakeholders
are
probably
unaware
of,
and
so
I
would
steer
clear
from
soliciting
or
proposing
organizational
design
solutions
to
what
what
the
public
want
and
and
focus
on
soliciting
feedback
from
from
the
public
on,
what's
valuable
to
them
and
and
put
it
to
the
county
manager
to
design
a
solution
to
that.
G
Should
the
board
concur
with
those
those
priorities
I
just
if
we,
if
we
ask
the
public
generally
speaking,
how
should
arlington
county
government
be
organized
we're
going
to
get
a
thousand
different
responses,
900
of
which
will
be
completely
uninformed?
So
I
I
just
think,
that's
a
dangerous
question
to
ask.
G
So
I
think
I
just
advocate
that
we
keep
it
at
a
keep
it
at
a
high
level
in
a
matter
of
values
and
priorities
for
what
the
public
and
citizenry
want
out
of
their
government
in
terms
of
performance,
rather
than
suggestions
on
how
to
achieve
that
performance.
B
Okay,
thanks
john
any
any
other.
Any
other
comments
I
will
oh
jackie,
go
ahead.
E
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
point
that
phil
brought
up,
I
think,
is
an
important
point
from
a
policy
perspective,
not
necessarily
where
you
would
start
with
a
forum.
I
think
that's
partly
what
I
was
getting
at
with
my
request
for
some
presentations
to
our
commission
and
that's
where
the
information.
E
Frankly,
it
was
reading
the
the
audits
that
raised
these
concerns.
For
me-
and
you
know,
when
you
said
jack-
would
be
able
to
answer
it
precisely.
My
concern
was
that
part
of
his
answer
was
he's
not
responsible
for
a
lot
of
these
things.
They're
they're,
not
under
his
jurisdiction,
and
the
answer
was
referred
to
was
omb
whatever
arlington's
version
of
omb
is,
but
that
the
administration
of
contracts,
since
all
of
our
I.t
contracts
are
thoroughly
distributed
across
all
different
departments
is
really
not
with
with
his
with
jack's
apartment.
E
It's
really
with
omv,
and
so
it's
really
gets
at
that
question
that
phil
is
seeing,
and
so,
if
you
look
at
that
carefully
and
see
which
answers
jack
couldn't
respond
to
and
got
referred
to,
omb,
then
you
can
see
that's
something
you
might
want
to
pursue,
but
it's
really
requires
quite
a
bit
of
research
to
to
understand
the
dynamics
of
distributive
versus
central
and
certainly
not
a
public
forum
topic.
I
wouldn't
think
thank
you.
B
So
so
we'll
go
with
the
first,
getting
the
the
briefing
and
then
and
then
see
where
we
are
yes
see
where
we
not.
Now
that
isn't
a
critical
issue.
But
let's,
let's
see
what,
from
a
policy
institutional
point
of
view,
what
we
can,
what
we
can
look
at
the
I
sent
around
the
phil
go
ahead.
G
I'd
be
supportive
of
that
phil
absent.
I
think
the
conclusion
that
you
incur
it,
including
your
request
that
a
centralized
model
would
be
better,
I'm
not
sure
I'm
there.
Yet
I
see
problems
with
the
federated
model
too,
but
I
would
be
supportive
of
getting
that
information
so
that
we
can
make
a
consensus
recommendation
of
the
board
on
policy.
B
D
H
I
was
just
going
to
say
this
month
gives
an
example
to,
I
think
the
frustration
phil
is
expressing,
and
that
is
so.
On
january
4th.
I
listened
to
board
member
olivier
garvey,
describe
an
upcoming
compilation
of
privacy
policies
to
be
made
available
in
a
week,
and
then
none
of
us
on
this
call
seemed
to
know
whether
the
search
that
resulted
from
the
arlington
county
website
constitutes
that
product
or
not
and
and
as
a
citizen.
Looking
at
the
website.
H
On
the
one
hand,
it
seems
good
that
there
are
so
many
things
written
down
that
have
a
relationship
to
privacy,
on
the
other
hand,
wading
through
those
organizational
unit
by
organizational
unit
policies.
Some
of
them
have
to
do
with
restrictions
on
employees
of
arlington
and
using
their
internet
connection,
and
some
of
them
have
to
do
with
my
civil
rights
is
a
is
a
big
and
a
diffuse
task,
and
and
the
example
that
I
sent
from
new
york
city,
which
is
bigger
and
more
dispute
diffused
than
we
are
of
a
county-wide
comprehensive.
H
In
this
case
municipal
policy.
H
You
know
from
a
transparency
and
accountability
point
of
view,
and
so
I'm
all
for
making
that
better.
I
don't
know
whether
centralization
or
federation
is
going
to
prevail,
but
but
having
a
having
a
a
readable
adjudicatable
policy
that
works
for
me,
because
I'm
an
arlingtonian
citizen
without
having
to
research,
the
relevant
policies
in
each
corner
of
the
county
office
just
seems
closer
to
the
goals
of
accountability
and
transparency
than
me
having
to
do
it
myself.
D
H
I'm
sorry,
I
muted
myself
that
privacy
is
a
particularly
edgy
privacy
advocate.
You
know,
so
this
is
a
public
interest
law
firm
that
makes
it
their
business
to
see
to
it
that
the
city
follows
its
own
policies
around
civil
rights
and
privacy.
So
I
would
say,
that's
a
that's
a
good
person
to
have
on
a
panel
not
because
they
represent
the
balance,
but
because
then
they
represent
from
one
side
of
the
issue,
and
we
want
to
balance
that
with
you
know,
someone
else
who
brings
to
the
other
end.
B
Okay,
good,
so
we'll
take
a
look.
I
think
I
think
we're
going
to
know
more
after
tomorrow,
so
we'll
be
able
to
take
a
look
at
what
where
we
are
and
what
we
think
is,
but
I
think
the
questions
that
you
all
are
raising
are
something
that
we.
What
we
receive
tomorrow
will
help
us
inform
the
the
appropriate
questions
in
the
sequence.
We
ask
those
questions:
tacos
you're
unmuted.
Did
you
want
to
make
a
comment.
F
Oh
no,
probably
accidentally,
I
was
just
reminding
myself
that
we
actually
have
some
officers.
We
have
a
chief
data
officer
right,
mr
lee.
F
Information
security
officer
we
have
as
well,
so
I
don't
know
how
much
the
commission
has
interacted
with
them
or
requested
to
interact
with
them.
F
Oh,
I
I
I
remember
that,
but
I
know
because
now
the
the
question
is
what
what
I
hear
here
is
basically
the
the
if
you
allow
me
that
that's
my
equivalent
analog,
that's
the
the
equivalent
of
the
chief
that
was
chief
privacy
data
privacy
officer
like
san
francisco
has,
and
it's
modeled
after
the
european
model
of
you,
know
the
famous
start
and
schutzberg
they're,
so
they're
the
person
in
charge
of
data
protection
actually
specifically
says
data
protection
and
and
safety.
F
So,
okay,
I
think
that
the
conversation
you
will
will
be
starting
tomorrow
can
be
a
good
departing
point.
However,
I
have
to
tell
you
also
that
I
need
to
discuss
with
my
colleagues
where
exactly
their
policy
appetite
is
right
now
with
regards
to
further
diving
into
this
in
this
budget
round.
It's
again
a
part
of
what
kind
of
what
kind
of
means
we
are
going
to
to
to
focus
and
invest
through
the
budget
process.
Let's,
let's
discuss
that.
I'm
operators.
B
Okay,
john
and
then
jackie.
E
Sure
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
this
issue
that
we've
been
talking
about
distributed
versus
central,
is
also
relevant
to
our
one
of
the
other
topics
that
we
want
to
talk
about,
which
is
the
comprehensive
digital
policy,
because
they're
really
the
same.
The
same
topic
that
we're
saying
is
that
our
digital
planning
and
digital
understanding
needs
to
have
a
holistic
and
unified
approach,
and
while
it
did,
individual
departments
are
seeking
and
with
advice
from
from
from
jack
are,
are
improving
their
own
work.
E
One
of
the
things
I
think
we
did
learn
from
the
pandemic
was
how
important
it
is
to
have
better
digital
planning
across
departments,
for
when
it's
really
important
for
them
to
work.
I
think
we've
learned
it
more
in
the
area
of
public
safety
than
perhaps
in
some
of
the
other
areas,
but
in
terms
of
many
of
the
mission
areas
having
a
unified
digital
plan
is
important
to
having
a
whole
community
plan
for
that
mission
area
and
it
it
cuts
across
all
the
comprehensive
plan
areas.
E
G
I
just
wanted
to
provide
for
awareness
for
protagonists
that
miss
lee's
is
facilitating
the
conversations
with
the
data
privacy
governance
board
for
the
clarendon
innovation
zone
project,
which
I'm
the
liaison
from
this
commission
too.
So
I've
had
the
the
pleasure
of
working
with
her
quite
a
bit
over
the
last
year,
and
I
would
say
that
I
find
her
to
be
a
passionate
advocate
for
privacy.
However,
as.
D
G
Indicated
she
is
a
staff
of
one
at
the
moment
and
so
under
resourced.
So
a
lot
of
the
privacy
work
that's
going
on
on
that
project,
I
think,
is
some
of
the
strongest
aspects
of
the
project
and
we're
approaching
the
moment
where
we
will
produce
a
report
out
of
the
phase
one
for
your
consideration
as
part
of
the
project.
We
went
through
the
nist
privacy
framework
to
assess
the
privacy
risks
of
the
project
itself
and
our
assessment,
which
I
don't
believe
is-
has
been
posted
publicly
yet
jackie.
E
No,
it
hasn't.
I
my
request
or
suggestion
was
that
it'd
be
part
of
an
iterative
update
report
which
I
think
was
the
direction
they
were
going.
G
So
I'll
just
summarize,
instead
of
providing
details
since
they're
not
public
that
most
of
the
highest
priority
privacy
risks
came
from
the
section
of
the
framework
sections
of
the
framework
that
dealt
with
the
organizational
context
rather
than
the
project
specific
questions
at
the
project
level.
It
was,
it
was
executing
quite
well
and
there
was
very
little
risk
in
it
and
the
risk
that
existed
was
well
controlled.
G
It
was
the
risks
that
stemmed
from
the
organizational
context
that
had
the
had
the
highest
gap
between
where
we
thought
the
the
priority
should
be,
and
the
risks
to
be
controlled
so
that
you'll
see
you'll
see
that
in
more
detail
coming
out
shortly.
But
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we
have
been
engaged
with
her.
B
B
Okay,
phil,
I
think
you
were
next
and
then
jackie.
K
Unofficially,
perhaps
what
would
it
take
for
the
board
to
also
see
this
was
a
significant
lack
and
and
launch
an
effort
that
might
hopefully,
one
day
result
in
a
master
plan
for
it.
Arlington
county.
F
Long
conversation
we
can
have
them
have
this
offline
as
well,
but
I
can
tell
you
continuous
advocacy
for
that
and
it's
a
you
know,
better
information,
etc.
I
think
that
it's
it's
maturing,
it's
just
not
so
fast,
and
I
remember
not.
You
know
both
in
you
know,
in
the
county,
manager's
office,
etc.
Given
the
very
you
know,
tough
priorities
and
tough
budgets.
F
Sometimes
it
takes
a
while
and
it
takes
some
commitment
to
to
get
results
with
something
that,
for
some
people,
myself
included,
find
it
as
a
really
high
priority
and
others
don't
find
it
as
a
high
priority.
The
good
news
here
is
nobody.
I've
heard
nobody
dismissing
that
like
saying
it
is
not
a
priority,
it
is
really
the
wrong
policy
idea.
F
It
is
just
you
know:
it's
faulty.
There
is
something
wrong
with
that.
We
I
haven't
I've.
Actually,
the
level
is
the
understanding
of
the
what's
the
sense
of
urgency
to
to
to
go,
implement
et
cetera,
and
I
and
I
could
list
a
very
long,
a
very
long
list
of
reasons
why
I
believe
it
is
actually
practical
and
and
compelling
to
do
it
sooner
rather
than
later,
as
in
as
in
now
as
in
these
next
one,
two.
F
Fiscal
years
to
you
know
to
fortify
our
data
protection
data
safety
management
practices
and,
of
course
this
has
to
come
along
with
a
policy
that
would
be,
in
my
opinion,
that's
not
would
be
would
be
really
very
close
to
a
to
an
additional
element
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
I
actually
subscribe
the
idea
of
an
additional
element
to
comprehensive
plan,
even
if
I'm
not
completely
clear
about
what
dimensions
this
element
will
have
and
how
it
will
interact,
inform
the
other
ones.
F
But
this
is
just
a
lack
of
having
worked
enough
for
this,
so
I
have
to
work
even
more
and
be
more
specific
in
the
asks.
So
I
hope
we
can
advance
that
a
good
deal
in
this
budget
season
and
dedicate
the
needs
and
support
the
people
and
mature.
Does
it
as
we
go,
and
you
know
good
public
discussion
is
part
of
that.
So
I
do
think.
Let
me
let
me
think
about
what
would
be
a
good
informational
session
with
our
board.
F
K
F
Yeah,
it's
it's
not
only
about
cost,
it's
about
changing
and
informing
people
changing
their
their
workflows
and
the
way
they
approach
certain
things.
So
you
know
it's
a
big
chip.
It
takes
a
while
to
turn,
so
you
know
patience
and
persistence
and
that's
that's
what
I'm
saying
I
do
that.
F
With
everything
I
I
thought
it,
it
should
happen.
I
you
know,
I
could
just
you
know
close
the
shop
today
I
would
be
done,
but
it's
not
it's
not
going.
It
needs
some
time.
K
F
F
Is
an
exercise
in
patience
and
persistence,
so
you
know
and
trying-
and
you
know
trying
to
convince
people
and
actually
in
the
process
you
you,
you
fine-tune
the
argument,
you
adapt
the
argument.
You
learn
yourself.
So
that's
that's
a
good
thing
about
democracy.
F
B
This
does
mark
a
year
that
you've
been
our
liaison,
so
we
we
appreciate
the
support
and
and
as
we
as
we
look
and
we'll
jackie
I'll,
get
to
you
in
a
moment,
we're
going
to
look
at
the
what
letters
we've
sent
to
the
board
and
you
have
been
persuaded
by
the
things
we've
recommended,
and
so
we
we
appreciate
the
the
relation
to
thomas.
You
really
have
been
supportive
and
you've.
You've
not
only
come
to
our
meeting,
but
also
when
we've
met
with
you.
B
B
E
Yeah
libby's
answer
was
a
response
to
one
of
our
questions
from
the
civic
federation
about
privacy
policy
at
the
very
first
part
of
the
organizational
meeting.
So
that's
that's
that's
what
she
was
answering.
She
was
answering
a
civic
federation
question.
Okay,.
F
I
will
ask
her
what
she
meant
by
imminent
release
of
new
privacy
policies,
because
I
haven't
been
briefed
on
this.
Okay.
E
Well,
I
it
wasn't
what
I
was
going
to
say,
but
thank
you
takas
for
your
explanation
of
how
we
get
to
talking
about
this.
You
know
broad
view
of
comprehensive
digital
policy.
I
really,
as
one
member
of
the
commission,
I
really
appreciated
hearing
you
say
that
what
I
had
been
going
to
say
was
really
one
more
argument
for
why
that's
important
in
the
privacy
context,
and
that
is
as
as
john
was
saying
when
we
went
through
and
it
was.
E
E
One
of
the
things
that
comes
up
fairly
consistently
as
being
a
problem
with
security
is
any
time
you're
aggregating
or
integrating
data
sources,
and
so
you
might
have
a
secure
source
and
another
secure
source.
But
when
you
put
those
two
sources
together,
your
your
algorithms
are
drawing
conclusions
for
you
that
might
jeopardize
privacy
because
they
have
things
that
are
masked
in
one
area
and
not
in
another.
E
So
when
you
put
it
all
together,
you're
able
to
draw
conclusions
and
so
understanding
what
happens
in
a
system
where
you
have
lots
of
parts
that
are
feeding
from
different
departments
into
an
aggregated
system
for
analytics
is
building
a
sort
of
more
comprehensive
digital
system,
but
it's
building
it
from
the
bottom
up
and
not
looking
at
it
from
the
top
down,
and
so
that
is
part
of
part
of
the
issue
is:
if
your
security
issues
are
happen
in
the
gaps,
as
you
add
things
together
and
are
cumulative
effects,
then
you,
then
you
miss
those
if
you're,
only
looking
one
by
one,
and
that
is
definitely
one
of
the
issues
that's
nationally
identified
is
aggregation
of
data
and
data
sources
is
where
you
have
some
issues.
F
Yeah
and
and
this-
and
this
is
also
one
of
the
biggest
problem,
because
even
if
you
have
only
after
a
while,
depending
on
how
many
sources
you
have
you
don't
need
the
complete
information
to
actually
guess
the
complete
information
yeah
yeah
this
this
ability,
and
one
of
the
I
mean
speaking
just
on
on
this
project.
One
of
the
things
that
concerns
me,
the
most
is
our
lack
of
insight
or
lack
of
accessibility
of
the
developed.
F
Code
of
the
developed
algorithm,
so
on
the
other
side,
you
know
this
is
supposed
to
be
a
a
public
initiative,
so
it's
not
a
private
company
that
asks
us
for
for
this
and
anyway,
I
look
forward
to
your
report
and
I
will
ask
you-
and
I
hope
you
can
explain
me
things
that
I
I
don't
understand
when,
when
we
come
to
to
that
discussion,
I'm
perfectly
aware
of
the
the
fact
that
even
our
general
idea
of
e-governance
has
a
lot
of
combinable
data
sources,
databases
that
can
be
you
know,
abused,
misused
and
used
to
infringe
on
people's
well-being,
not
only
their
rights.
B
So
I
sent
to
you
all
the
the
draft
of
that.
So
I
want
to
get
a
sense
about.
Is
that
what
you
all
were
thinking
about
is.
Was
that
what
you
had
imagined?
What
what
comments
do
you
do
you
have
about
the
what
we've
what
we
finally
referred
to
as
the
tracker
any
mike.
Did
you
have
a
did?
You
have
a
comment.
H
There
we
go.
I
certainly
was
a
person
most
often
asking
for
that,
so
I'm
very
grateful
to
see
it
pulled
together.
I
think
the
format
makes
perfect
sense
to
me.
What
I
had
envisioned
is.
It
would
be
at
the
front
end
of
our
minutes.
You
know,
as
opposed
to
a
standalone
document.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
it
works
either
way.
H
The
the
looking
at
the
list
makes
you
feel
pretty
good
about
some
of
the
topics
we've
tried
to
alert
folks
to
it
makes
the
comments
from
the
january
4th
organizational
meeting
about
having
20th
century
policies
for
21st
century
technologies
seem
like.
That
means
we
should
go
faster,
not
slower,
because
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
catch
up
if
we
don't
do
anything
at
all.
So
with
that
editorial
comment,
I'd
say:
keeping
it
as
a
separate
tracking
document
works.
Fine
for
me.
H
If
we
kept
track
of
it
over
a
fixed
length
of
time
say
within
a
six
month
period
at
the
front
end
of
our
minutes,
it
would
kind
of
keep
what's
before
us
and
then
I'd
say.
The
unavoidable
question
is:
how
do
we
feel
when
we
send
advice
and
we
never
hear
anything
back?
I
don't
know
what
the
answer
to
that
is,
but
this
at
least
puts
that
reality
in
front
of
us.
So
thanks
for
doing
it,
I'm
assuming
you
did
it.
B
Well,
frank-
and
I
together,
so
it
was
a
group
effort,
so
we
just
wanted
and-
and
I
must
admit
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
done-
that
looking
at
some
of
the
letters
we've
sent
have
been-
have
been
good
good
framing
of
the
debate,
which
is
what
I
think
one
of
our
roles
is
right
to
raise.
The
question
make
recommendations
and,
as
talk
has
said,
persistence
and
patience
are
important
and
we've
revisited
topics,
as
you
have
you've
noted.
So
we'll
we'll
do
that.
B
Angela,
will
you
know
we'll
begin
to
to
start
that
on
this
january?
It's
a
good
beginning
of
the
year
is
a
good
time
to
say
this
is
what
we're
tracking
the
last
six
months
and
then
and
then
go
from
there.
So
we
will
put
that
on
the
minutes
mike.
I
just
wanted
to
separate
it
so
that
you
all
could
take
a
look
at
it
and
and
do
what
you
you
know
amend
john.
G
B
G
That
the
public
and
link
to
the
actual
artifacts,
so
that
the
public
can
be
aware
of
the
recommendations
that
we've
made
in
case.
They
want
to
follow
up
on
them
as
individual
members
of
the
public
or
come
and
comment
to
the
commission
on
anything
that
we've
done
in
the
past.
B
And
before
we
do
before
we
do
that
john
that's
one
of
the
items
takas
we
had
on
our
list.
We
wanted
to
say
make
sure
that
we
hadn't
missed
a
response
by
by
the
board
before
we
put
it
before
we
put
it
live
and
a
john
point
taken
we'll
we'll
make
sure
and
and
and
do
that
and
the
way
angela
has
is
in
the
process
of
revising
you'll
know
in
the
october
or
november
minutes.
B
It
said,
we'd
start
revising
in
january
and
she
has
begun
to
do
that
and
we
will
set
that
up
john.
So
it's
right
on
the
front
page
that
so
people
can
see
that
and
then
drill
down
with
the
with
the
to
see
the
letter
and
and
whether
other,
what
other
action
items
there
are.
So.
G
D
B
All
right
you
have
both
both
sets
of
minutes.
I
will
entertain
either
adopting
or
amending
frank.
I
I
I
would
might
have
been
one
of
those
people
getting
carted
off
if
I
was
listening
to
you
guys,
scream
at
each
other
and
then
my
screaming
back.
B
A
K
K
K
G
G
B
Right
right,
john
okay:
let's
all
rights
noted-
and
I
think
angela
you've
you've
heard
that,
and
we
can
do
that.
Okay,
so.
G
It
looks
like
we
don't
really
have
minutes
to
that
level
of
detail,
which
is
fine,
so
we
should
delete
it.
D
B
B
Any
oh,
as
we
see
real
time.
Thank
you
any
other
any
other
comments
about.
Why
don't
we
take
the
october
minutes?
First,
any
other.
Any
other
comments
about
the
october
minutes.
I
B
Thank
you
any
any
any
against
any
abstentions.
B
Okay,
minutes
pass
or
october
how
about
november,
with
the
noted
deletion
of
the
under
the
action
item
and
the
note
that
frank
was
absent.
B
With
that,
okay
and
second,
any
one
second,
second,
thank
you
martha
and
all
those
in
favor
aye.
D
B
B
Right
right,
frank,
okay,
frankel,
abstain.
All
right!
Thank
you
all
right!
Well,
we
I
think
we're
there.
I
will
see.
Thank
you
all.
I
know
you're
doing
double
duty,
but
I
I
hope
we
got
some
good
things
done
tonight.
Thank
you,
takas
for
coming
to.
It
was
great
to
have
him
here
and
we
will
see
all
of
you
tomorrow.
This
is
going
to
be
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
it
this
this
just
the
exchanges
we've
had.
We've
got
some
really
interesting,
thoughtful
panelists.
B
Who
will
give
us
some
really
really
good,
good
perspective.
Phil?
Is
that
an
old
hand
or
a
new
hand.
D
B
Hand,
sorry,
okay,
that's
right!
Just
checking
all
right
well!
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all.
So
much
and
we'll
see
you
tomorrow,
that's
at
6,
00
p.m.
Good.