►
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
The
commission
may
have
been
briefed
on
this
along
the
way,
so
I
just
three
things
I
want
to
cover
some
background
and
just
give
us
status
of
where
we
are
from
a
permitting
standpoint
and
then
give
the
commission
a
little
dive
down
into
some
of
the
challenges
that
we've
had
as
we've
gotten
our
first
wave
of
permits
issued.
So
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
host
a
presentation.
I
am
I
happen
to
be
come,
come
back
home
for
the
presentation.
A
So
hopefully
everyone
can
see
the
screen.
I
would
can
you
all
see
this
okay,
we.
A
Okay,
well
thanks
for
providing
the
opportunity
to
present
the
the
status
of
5g
deployment
in
the
county
and
some
of
the
context
we've
been
at
this
for
probably
a
three
year
journey
at
this
point
just
had
some
background
slides
a
difference,
I
think
you're
all
as
a
technology
committee.
You're
probably
aware
of
this,
but
you
know,
macra
cells
have
been
around
a
lot
longer.
Small
cells
are
a
lot
different.
A
They
they
operate
in
the
license
and
unlicensed
band,
much
more
dependent
on
the
line
of
sight
for
for
coverage,
but
they're
really
seen
as
in
our
dense
areas
of
being
the
next
wave
of
technology
to
to
advance
advanced
some
internet
of
things
and
many
other
technology
deployments.
A
I
would
note
in
arlington
and
specific
as
a
as
an
urban
dense
environment.
They
they
do
line
of
sight
is
an
issue
there
because
they
do
have
a
lot.
A
smaller
coverage
footprint,
their
height
is,
is
a
lot
lower
or
a
lot
smaller,
and
they
can
be
obstructed
by
our
trees
and
other
infrastructure
in
our
in
our
public
right-of-way.
A
Some
regulatory
considerations
that
have
been
part
of
the
discussion
over
time.
You
know
the
fcc
has
not
necessarily
given
localities
a
lot
of
leverage
in
this
deployment
opportunities,
so
I
I
would
say
that
has
informed
our
approach,
the
fcc
regulations
and
and
how
we've
approached
the
the
deployment
strategy.
A
In
addition,
though,
I
think,
as
we've
talked
through
this
with
many
partners
in
the
county
from
aed,
dts,
county
manager's
office,
the
the
county
attorney's
office
and
then
the
chamber
of
commerce
in
just
a
moment
to
stakeholders,
it
was
seen
as
a
technology
innovation
that
could
be
available
for
our
both
our
constituents
and
businesses
to
deploy
future
technology
so
that
the
benefit
was
perceived
to
be
there,
and
so
the
county
embarked
on
a
process
to
to
develop
what
was
called
a
master
license
agreement
and
a
program
where
telecommunications
could
get
on
our
infrastructure.
A
I'll
have
more
to
say
about
that
in
a
moment
that
was
eventually
approved
by
the
county
board
in
july
of
2019,
and
so
after
that
we
had
vendors
that
could
execute
voluntarily
a
master
license
agreement
and
attach
to
some
of
our
infrastructure
some
of
the
legislative
timeline.
I'm
not
going
to
read
this
just
some
background,
but
it
has
been
ongoing
since
really
2017
and
fcc
regulations
were
tracked,
along
with
state
regulations
on
the
top,
you
can
see
some
of
the
county
adopted
ordinances
and
regulations.
A
We
first
started
in
2017
allowing
the
deployment
on
third
party
polls,
and
that
was
primarily
in
the
arlington
county,
verizon
and
dominion
energy
polls
and
they
are
in
our
right
away
in
a
large
large
portion
of
our
public
streets
and
then
that,
ultimately,
after
thorough
review,
we
entered
into
this
master
license
concept
that
they
could
attach
to
our
street
lights.
Bolt
street
light
poles
specifically.
A
So
as
part
of
that
master
license
agreement,
approval
process,
d.o.t
evaluated
a
number
of
our
infrastructure.
A
lot
of
our
infrastructure
in
the
public
right-of-way
and
due
to
safety
concerns,
determine
not
to
deploy
on
traffic
signals
they're
primarily
there
for
the
efficient
and
safe
movement
of
traffic
county
did
look
at
streetlight
poles
as
an
opportunity.
A
We
did
not
provide
the
cut
the
allowance
for
small
wireless
facilities
to
deploy
in
with
their
own
vendor
polls.
Some
jurisdictions
did
that
and
actually
alexandria
has
has
done
that
to
some
extent.
A
A
So
I'm
not
going
to
these
are
spec
sheets,
but
I
don't
want
to
get
into
the
details.
This
is
our
carlisle
pole
on
the
left,
and
if
this
this
pole
and
then
this
is
a
cobra
head,
pole,
you've
seen
these
in
different
areas
if
you've
driven
around
the
county.
But
these
polls
were
incorporated
after
a
year-long
design
process
into
our
standards.
A
I
would
say
they're
very
different
than
our
current
poll
structure.
Our
carlisle
pole
you've
seen
those
in
various
various
locations
in
the
county,
but
they
had
to.
They
had
to
incorporate
the
communications,
radio
infrastructure
inside
the
pole
and
then
on
the
top
of
the
pole.
There's
the
antenna
it's
at
different
heights
on
the
carlisle
versus
the
cobrahead
generally,
the
cobra,
the
carlisle
poles
run
about
18
feet
and
nominally
28
to
30
feet
on
our
cobra
heads.
A
I
would
say
the
inventory
in
the
county
just
for
informational
purposes,
arlington
county
maintains
about
40
percent
of
our
street
light
inventory
dominion.
Energy
has
the
other
60.
So
when
you
look
at
this
and
the
concept
of
attachments
which
I'll
show
you
in
a
minute,
it
puts
some
context
to
why
you
might
see
more
permits
on
the
third
party
polls,
because
there's
simply
more
of
those
in
our
right
of
way.
A
So
public
engagement,
that's
always
something
that
very
important
in
arlington
county.
We
did
do
what
we
could
in
this
space,
but-
and
I
will
put
some
context
to
this
public
engagement.
In
this
sense,
we
tried
to
give
as
much
opportunity
as
possible
pre-pandemic
for
individuals
to
take
a
look
at
the
the
designs
that
were
that
were
provided,
went
to
the
business
community.
We
had
websites,
we
also
provided
some
online
engagement,
it
wasn't
a
land,
use
decision,
public
engagement
process
and
we
ultimately
modified
our
ordinance
again
in
2019.
A
We
also
had
a
pilot
deployment
that
I'll
speak
to
in
a
minute,
so
the
pilot
deployment
depicted
here
that
occurred
actually
in
july
2019
it
was.
It
was,
admittedly,
in
our
commercial
corridor
at
14th
street
north
and
north
courthouse
road,
very
clear,
very
close
to
the
courthouse
plaza
where
the
maine
arlington
county
government
center
is,
and
so
this
is
a
look
at
the
pole.
I
mean
from
the
from
a
commercial
standpoint.
You
know
you
got
about
a
26
inch
base.
A
You
got
the
the
double
arm
carlisle
here,
so
it's
got
a
scale
and
a
fit
that
may
work
in
commercial
spaces.
A
little
more
challenging
when
you
get
out
in
the
residential,
but
this
was
this-
was
our
pilot
that
that
occurred
in
2019.
A
A
The
location
is
determined
primarily
by
vintage
vendor
coverage
requirements
and
county
street
light
standards,
because
keep
in
mind
that
the
street
lights
already
exist
and
we're
not
required
to
put
in
new
street
lights
for
this
deployment.
So
there
is
some
flexibility
I
mean
we
do
have
some
nuances
in
the
right
of
way
where
this
can
be
massaged
by
our
traffic
engineering
group,
but
generally
the
vendor
determines
where
they
want
to
attach
to
our
infrastructure.
A
The
county
has
limited
ability
for
movement
in
that
area,
because
of
just
that
we
have
to
not
only
keep
the
streetlight
streets
illuminated
per
our
standards,
but
we
also
the
vendor
has
to
provide
their
own
studies
on
on
the
propagation
studies
they
need
for
adequate
5g
coverage.
A
We
do,
I
would
note,
have
the
ability
as
a
lever,
to
control
the
overall
inventory
of
our
street
lights
that
are
available
for
attachments
and
and
I'll
I'll
digress
for
just
a
second
one
area
that
we've
done,
that
as
a
collective
moratorium
is
in
the
pentagon
crystal
city
area,
where,
with
the
advent
of
h2q
amazon,
along
with
a
myriad
of
capital
projects
in
that
space,
we
just
put
a
whole
hold
on
that
area.
A
Just
no
vendor
polls
in
that
location
up
until
now
are
relaxing
those
standards.
This
fall,
but
we're
still.
We
will
still
have
a
moratorium
on
some
of
that
area
for
deployment
because
really
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
for
us
to
be
putting
for
the
vendors
to
be
paying
for
these
polls
to
be
put
in
just
to
have
them
ripped
up
by
either
private
development
or
our
capital
projects.
A
So
the
stats
on
our
our
5g
deployment,
the
county
since
the
the
master
license
agreement
was
approved.
We've
had
four
vendors,
specifically
at
t
crown
castle
verizon
and
seed
llc
in
seat
llc,
particularly
in
one
area
of
the
crystal
city,
pentagon,
city
area,
actually
execute
master
license
agreements
with
the
county,
that's
required
as
a
as
a
as
a
pre-requirement
or
prerequisite
to
actually
getting
a
permit.
So
not
just
anybody
can
come
into
the
county
and
get
a
permit
for
a
5g.
You
can't
be.
A
A
If
I
freeze,
I
look
better
so
we
had
as
of
july
2021,
the
the
stats
are
128
permits
applied
for
for
our
streetlight
polls.
Actually,
the
number
there
is
not
21,
it's
18
permits
issued
and
and
a
corresponding
number
under
review.
We've
had
a
significant
number
of
permits
attached
to
dominion
and
verizon
infrastructure.
A
Those
attachments
are
typically
much
higher
in
the
in
the
space
and
then
sony
permits
have
issued
208
private
property
5g
telecommunication
permits,
since
the
2017
time
frame,
so
primarily
third-party
polls
and
zoning
permits
for
these
on
private
property
have
been
the
majority
of
the
permits
issued
to
date.
So
that's
that's
where
we
stand
from
a
permitting
standpoint
at
this
at
this
juncture,
so
I
want
to
just
drill
down
at
this
point.
Just
you
know
give
you
a
few
details
of
some
of
the
challenges
you
can
see
this
potential.
A
This
particular
street
light
in
a
neighborhood
can
be
challenging
with
that.
Just
a
little
over
2
foot
base
to
locate
in
the
community
we've
seen
some
scale
and
fit
issues,
and
one
of
the
things
I
would
note
is
in
some
cases
there
they've
been
located
directly
or
real.
In
close
proximity
to
your
dominion,
energy,
poles-
in
this
case
this
is
a
dominion,
energy,
pole,
literally
25
foot
from
the
5g
pole,
and
so
it
we
would
prefer
them
to
be
on
infrastructure
other
than
our
street
light
if
possible.
A
But
this
just
shows
you
some
of
the
some
of
the
challenges
there.
It's
also
presented
when
you
have
that
width,
the
26
inch
width
and
in
a
two
and
a
half
utility
strip,
two
and
a
half
foot
utility
strip.
It
can
present
sidewalk
encroachment
issues
and
that's
we
have
to
maintain
our
ada
accessibility
in
the
county.
A
So
a
few
lessons
learned
county
is
considering
some
restrictions
in
designated
zoning
areas
from
attaching
to
carlisle
polls
due
to
several
factors
that
I
just
hit
on
briefly:
ada
sidewalk
access,
width
issues,
I've
mentioned
scale
and
fit
issues
are
challenging
in
the
residential
zones.
This
pole
design
was
originally
piloted
and
really
designed
more
for
the
commercial
corridor
areas
and
I'll
show
a
map
in
a
minute.
We
do
want
to
balance
the
need
to
deploy
the
technology,
though,
with
the
the
pole
design.
A
A
A
Just
a
note
on
number
five,
though,
as
I
showed
you
some
of
the
challenges
we
are
enforcing
the
the
clear
zone,
requirements
and
ada
requirements,
and
so
some
of
the
polls
that
I
showed
you
were
are
having
to
be
adjusted
or
even
in
in
some
instances
removed
to
to
accommodate
those,
because
we
have
to
adhere
to
current
standards
that
are
out
there
for
our
roadway
design.
A
So
this
is
not
the
most
legible
at
this
scale,
but
I
this
this
is
just
shows
you
the
main
areas
for
our
inventory
and
what
you
see
here
in
yellow
is
a
sea
of
carlisle
poles.
We
have
over
almost
5
500
carlisle
poles
in
the
county
that
we
we
administer,
maintain
and
operate.
We
have
very
few
just
just
under
400
380
cobra,
head
poles
that
we
maintain
out
in
the
residential
areas,
but
there's
a
lot
there's
a
lot
higher
number.
A
Almost
eleven
thousand
five
hundred
cobra
heads
that
dominion
energy
actually
maintains
out
in
the
in
the
typical
residential
areas.
You
will
see
some
infusion
or
integration
of
the
carlyles
into
some
of
the
residential
zones
that
are
shown
in
the
the
pink
pink
type
color
here
on
the
map.
I
think
that
a
lot
of
those
have
occurred
because
we've
incorporated
them
as
part
of
roadway
projects
where
we've
offered
the
carlisle
as
part
of
that
project,
so
the
primary
location
that
these
were
envisioned.
A
At
least
the
design
of
the
poll
that
we
had
intended
were
for
your
fallston
rosland
corridors
crystal
city,
along
columbia,
pike
and
some
of
the
other
major
commercial
corridors
in
the
county.
So
taking
a
look
at
the
residential
zones
that
you
see
there,
particularly
the
r6,
r8
r10
r20
zones
and
because
a
lot
of
those
have
narrower
walks,
the
homes
are
much
closer
to
the
to
the
curb
road
section.
So
that's
that's
under
consideration
right
now.
A
Common
questions
are
the
frequencies
harmful,
there's
a
lot
of
different
information
out
there,
and
I'm.
The
members
of
this
committee
could
have
they've,
probably
done
their
own
research
and
are
some
may
be
even
more
up
to
date.
On
some
of
that
than
myself,
I
am
not
a
health
scientist.
What
we
have
we
have
looked
at
this
information
from
various
sources
from
nih
cdc
and
these
they
tend
to
be
non-conclusive.
I
guess
is
how
what
I
would
summarize.
A
A
So
I
would
just
note
that
some
of
those
considerations
are
out
there
for
us
now,
as
we
consider
next
steps
with
the
program
we.
I
certainly
answer
questions
I
would
say
on
the
health
issues.
I
didn't
mean
to
minimize
the
discussion
in
that
area
and
there
may
be
questions,
but
I
would
note
that
what
we
have
under
consideration
in
the
process
of
developing
our
mla
master
license
agreement
has
a
lot
of
terms
and
conditions.
A
We
have
the
ability
to
pull
the
actual
vendor
request
and
get
the
actual
vendor
data
on
radiation
emissions
per
location.
They
have
to
provide
that
to
us
upon
request
and
we've
also
dialogued
with
reuben
varghese,
our
public
health
director,
and
you
know,
I
think
the
conclusion
there
I
would
say
to
the
commission
is
this-
is
that
there
is
a
need,
there's
need
for
more
study
in
that
area
and
there's
opportunities
and
thoughts
that
he
has
on
that.
A
That
may
be
embarked
on
eventually,
but
we
have
dialogued
with
them
as
part
of
this
process
and
didn't
take
it
lightly.
But,
as
I
said,
fcc
has
somewhat
undermined
our
ability
to
regulate,
based
on
that.
So
with
that
I've
taken
up
some
time,
I
want
to
turn
it
open
or
turn
it
up
into
questions
from
the
commission
that
I
might
might
be
able
to
answer.
B
C
D
Go
so
actually,
I
didn't
have
a
question,
but
I
did
have
an
update
on
the
fcc's
rf
regulations,
so
I
was
going
to
provide
it
in
my
regular
report,
but
I
figured
since
it's
right
relevant
to
what
mike
was
talking
about.
The
dc
circuit
u.s
court
of
appeals
just
recently
ordered
the
fcc
to
provide
a
reasoned
explanation
that
its
guidelines
adequately
protect
against
harmful
effects
of
exposure,
radio,
frequent
frequency
radiation
unrelated
to
cancer,
such
as
reproductive
and
neurological
issues.
D
So
court
said
the
the
fcc
is
unsound
footing
with
respect
to
answer,
but
they
need
to
provide
a
reasoned
explanation
with
respect
to
these
other
health
related
issues,
and
this
court's
decision
was
in
response
to
the
fcc's
2019
order
reform,
reaffirming
its
1996
rfr
radio
frequency
radiation
limits.
E
For
comments
yeah,
I
have
a
just
a
comment
mike:
are
these
slides
accessible
these.
A
Are
great
yeah
I
I
would
I
provided
them
to
angela
jack
and
with
the
idea
that
she
could
get
that
out
to
you
to
the
group
here
for
okay,
further
information,
andrea,
so
yeah
and
I
know
frank
that
I
think
that
is
challenging.
We've
hoped
at
the
local
level
and
I'm
not
an
attorney,
and
I
don't
pretend
to
be
one
on
tv,
but
I
I
I
think
it
was
the
ninth
circuit
last
last
august.
I
believe
it
was
ninth
circuit.
A
That
really
I
mean
the
fcc
has
pretty
much
reaffirmed
a
lot
of
the
earlier
rulings
and
I'm
not.
I
would
just
not
get
into
specifics
there,
because
I
I
they
pretty
much
confirmed
some
of
their
pre
a
lot
of
their
previous
issue
rulings
on
localities
ability
to
regulate
that
have
just
continued
our
approach
towards
this.
So
frank,
any
information
you
have
on
that,
though,
is
helpful
from
the
health
perspective,
but
I
think
what
they
did
last
summer
was
just
to
continue
the
the
current
approach.
A
So
I
haven't
seen
any
real.
I
mean
you
can
point
to
a
couple
of
things,
because
this
is
going
to
be
continue
to
be
litigated
and
discussed
through
fcc
and
other
channels
from
different
advocacies,
but
appreciate
the
comment.
B
F
Hi
hi
mike,
thank
you
so
much
yeah.
You
talked
about
the
distribution
of
the
antennas
and
you
get
significant
coverage
based
on
the
existing
attachments,
you're
going
to
do
to
existing
infrastructure,
and
you
talked
about
the
profile
you
showed
of
the
of
the
the
poles
themselves
and
the
lighting
is
very
low
impact.
It
fits
well
into
the
community
where
those
antennas
once
they're
placed
are
they
going
to
be
shared
by
the
multiple
carriers
so
that
you
know
minimal,
minimal,
build
out
in
that.
A
Regard
or
yeah,
no,
that's
a
great
question
yeah,
and
so
what
what
our
master
license
agreement
specifies?
One
carrier
per
pole,
all
right,
so
we
and
frankly
with
the
infrastructure
there.
A
It
maxes
out
the
pole
with
the
one
carry,
but
there
are
different
hosting
models
like
crown
castle
is
a
neutral
host
provider
and
actually
two
of
the
four
master
license
agreement
entities
are
neutral
host
providers,
which
means
they
actually
will
work
with
multiple
vendors
to
get
into
their
radio
equipment
and
provide
the
the
coverage.
A
So
while
it's
not
totally,
maybe
the
answer
that
you
were
thinking
there
kevin
because
there's
different
models
of
hosting,
I
don't
think
we'll
see
that
from
verizon
or
at
t,
but
some
of
the
other
carriers
provide
that
opportunity
for
multiple
vendors
to
work
through
their
equipment.
So
does
that?
Does
that
help
kevin.
F
G
G
How
do
they
complain
about
it
and
who
do
they
talk
to
and
that
kind
of
sort
of
thing,
how
much
of
what
you
is
in
the
powerpoint
you've
just
given
us
is
available
online
for
the
public
and
who
should
we
refer
them
to,
because
I
think
the
public
education
on
what
is
this
and
and
what
are
my
rights?
You
know
as
far
as
how
close
it
is
to
me,
and
things
like
that
are
very
important.
A
Yeah
jacqueline
that
that's
a
that's
a
great
question:
we
do
have
a
website
for
small
wireless
facilities
and
it's
it's
kind
of
dual
purpose
or
multiple
purposes.
A
Some
of
it
talks
about
the
vendor
process
of
how
you
get
the
permit,
but
then
there's
another
part
of
the
page
that
talks
about
resources
and
on
that
page
they
provide
a
lot
of
the
health
rate,
links
the
the
research
that's
been
done
and
so
that
that's
available
so
we've
been
we've
tried,
I
guess
to
answer:
we've
tried
to
be
transparent
with
that,
while
not
drawing
necessarily
conclusions
on
that
issue.
A
I
think
the
the
probably
the
the
most
objective
party
and
a
person
that
reuben
varghese
has
been
great
to
work
with,
and
the
public
health
director
he's
very
knowledgeable
of
this.
I
I
think
he's
a
dispassionate
individual
about
you
know
he
doesn't
have
a
stake
in
the
game
either
way.
A
So
we
ultimately
when
people
have
those
kind
of
concerns,
we
will
refer
them
to
our
public
health
director,
but
to
be
quite
frank,
over
the
last
18
months,
reuben's
had
other
priorities
with
the
pandemic,
but
he,
I
think
that
sure
it's
a
it's
a
real
per.
It's
really
more.
G
A
generic
it's
a
more
generic
question.
If
we
get
at
a
civic
association
or
a
neighbor
to
neighbor,
we
we
get,
we
get
letters
of
complaints.
My
civic
association
has
received
several
individuals,
who've
written
and
said
this
thing
has
appeared,
and
I
don't
like
it,
and
it's
too
close
to
me
and
what
I'm
asking
is:
who
should
we
send
them
to?
And
what
can
we
say
that
will
help
them
understand
what
their
rights
are
etcetera,
obviously,
as
a
source.
A
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
I
would
answer
that
by
noting
that
we
have
permit
staff
in
the
louis
arize
development
services
office.
The
permitting
agents
are
probably
the
best
resource
there
and
if,
if
there's
really
concerns
now,
like,
I
said,
we've
only
issued
our
first
initial
round
of
permits.
We
do
have
it,
as
I
indicated
the
ability
to
pull
the
emissions
data
from
from
the
request
that,
from
the
vendors
on
some
of
the
you
know,
radiation.
B
Right
all
right
thanks
jackie
any
any
other,
any
other
questions
I
see
some
hands
up,
but
they
might
be
old
old
old
hands
up
any
other
any
other
final
one,
one
last
question
before
mike:
we
we
let
mike
get
to
hit
back
to
his
evening.
B
All
right
well
mike,
thank
you
so
much
I
if
we
I
I
reserve,
if,
if
we
have
any
other
questions,
we
may
come
back
just
to
just
to
clarify
some
things
and
make
sure
that
we're
clear
the
the
presentation
was
really
helpful
to
set
the
give
the
history
set
the
stage
and
and,
as
you
noted,
it'd
been
a
while
since
itech
had
been
briefed,
you
know.
B
So
in
the
beginning,
we
were
so
it's
good
to
hear
the
the
update
and
where
we
are
so,
we
really
appreciate
you
making
time
on
your
your
wednesday
night
to
come.
Come
brief,
us,
okay!
Well,
thank
you.
A
lot.
B
All
right
just
in
case
there's
any
public
comment,
we'll
we'll
take
it
any
any
public
comment
out
there.
Anyone
on
phone
or
or
besides
the
commission
members.
B
All
right:
well,
we
will
go
to
welcoming
we're
so
excited
to
have
our
two
new
members.
So
it's
just
delightful.
Thank
you.
We
we
were
so
lucky
that
both
of
you
were
willing
willing
to
serve
so
andrea.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
giving
us
a
brief.
B
E
So
yeah,
so
I
am
in
there,
but
I'm
in
the
cyber
teach
program
at
marymount
university.
So
they
are.
We
are
actually
going
through
that
as
well.
So
I
call
myself
trying
to
mute
that
as
well,
but
that's
that's
what
you
y'all
are
hearing,
so
let
me
kind
of
stand
up
a
little
bit
but
hello,
everyone.
My
name
is
andrea
wingo.
I
am
currently
residing
here
in
arlington
virginia.
E
I
am
a
cyber
detection
analyst
currently
working
for
mantec
at
cia
headquarters,
I'm
also
a
doctoral
student
at
marymount
university,
and
I
am
a
member
of
the
national
coalition
of
100
black
women.
So
I
am
honored
to
be
a
part
of
this
information
planning
commission.
E
A
B
Recommended
that
andrea
krista
jones,
any
of
you
who
have
worked
with
krista
who's
left
the
county
now,
but
it
was
wonderful.
Krista
said
you
want
to
apply
for
this,
so
andrea,
I'm
so
glad
that
she
was
the
bridge.
So
we.
H
B
We
really
appreciate
it
so
thanks
so
much
and
and
it
should
be
a
real
interesting
year.
B
So
we're
delighted
delighted
to
have
you
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
and
gary
frank,
you've
known
frank,
a
long
time
and
so
and
you
visited
you
visited
itech
before
on
with
another
hat,
so
welcome.
B
B
B
Nope,
we
can't
hear
you
yet
I'll.
Tell
you
what
play
around
with
that
and
we'll
come
back.
We
have
someone
else
to
welcome
and
we'll
come
right
back
gary.
We
richard
has,
as
I
mentioned
to
you
all
david,
has-
is
in
an
acting
role
because
jack.
Am
I
correct
that
your
your
staff
member
is
now
cio?
Is
it
louden
county
or
do
I
have
the
county
right.
B
So
so
a
nice
nice
career
development
move
and
so
david
is
taking
some
acting
leadership
roles
and
richard
has
agreed
to
be
our
liaison.
So
richard,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
giving
us
a
little,
I
know
you
you've,
attended
our
tech
commission
meeting
but
just
wanted.
I
don't
think
people
have
really
had
an
opportunity
to
know
your
background.
So
if
you
wouldn't
mind
spending
a
couple
minutes.
J
Sure
so,
hello,
everybody
and
welcome
to
our
new
members.
My
name
is
richard
archambault.
I
always
pronounce
it
because
it's
a
mouthful.
J
J
Mary
has
a
direct
line
to
me
and
can
request
people
come
and
add,
comment
or
answer
questions
and
we're
just
here
to
help
illuminate
you
on
various
topics
and
explain
how
the
county
works
and
here
to
help
guide
you.
You
know
I
am
because
of
where
I
work
in
security.
I
will
probably
be
the
first
one
to
tell
you
if
it's
something
we
can't
talk
about,
but
for
the
items
that
we
can
talk
about,
we're
happy
to
provide
the
right
staff.
J
So
welcome
thanks
for
welcoming
me
and
we'll
enjoy
the
next
period
together.
I
A
B
Done
for
us
really,
that's!
That's
wonderful
and
it's
great
great
to
have
you
great
to
have
you
on
board
gary,
I'm
just
looping
back
to
see
if
we've
got
voice
and
sound
yet
do
we
have
do
not
yet
all
right,
okay,
not
yet
so
so,
we'll
move
from
frank!
D
All
right,
I'm
unmuting
now
just
not
used
to
I
used
to
going
this
early
in
the
meeting
so.
D
The
fcc's
authority
in
this
sighting
has
been
upheld
in
all
other
forums
up
to
this
point
with,
particularly
with
respect
to
preemption
of
local
zoning,
setting
a
shot
clock
so
there's
a
whole
host
of
areas
where
the
fcc
has
basically
preempted
local
regulations
on
this,
and
I
would
anticipate
that
even
on
the
health
effects
that
that's
going
to
be
and
ultimately
an
fcc
primary
jurisdiction
that
it's
not
going
to
wind
up
going
back
to
the
state
and
local
governments
to
be
able
to
hand
down
you
know,
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
have
50
different
or
you
know,
or
15
000
different
rf
standards
across
the
country.
D
I
think
we're
gonna
wind
up
having
that
be
a
fcc,
I
think
they'll
go
back
and
revisit
the
record
on
the
health
effects
unrelated
to
cancer,
and
I
think
that
will
you
know
that
they'll
have
to
just
provide
a
more
reasoned
explanation
as
far
as
their
decision.
I
have
to
weigh
all
the
all
the
evidence
that's
been
submitted
in
in
them.
They
may
open
it
up.
D
For
a
may
open
the
record
up
for
additional
comments,
all
right
other
in
other
areas,
let's
see
actually
on
june
28th,
the
us
supreme
court
declined
to
hear
an
appeal
of
the
ninth
circuit
decision,
denying
those
challenges
to
the
fcc
small
cell
moratoria
order,
establishing
a
60
shot
clock
for
existing
structures
in
90
days
for
our
other
applications
and
that
the
fees
be
reasonable
and
the
270
dollar
fee
that
the
arlington
is
charging,
I
think,
has
been
sort
of
deemed
to
be
presumptively,
reasonable,
so
and
local
jurisdictions
do
retain
some
authority
over
small
cell
aesthetics,
but
can
no
more,
but
such
regulations
can
be
no
more
burdensome
than
imposed
on
any
other
technology.
D
So
so,
basically,
we've
got
that
sort
of
fcc
authority
being
reaffirmed
by
this
supreme
court
declining
to
hear
the
ninth
circuit,
something
else
that's
been
in
the
news:
a
lot:
the
senate
bipartisan
infrastructure
bill,
which
is
been
hopping
around,
and
we
now
know
that
the
house
will
take
a
vote
on
it
september.
D
27Th
bill
would
provide
40
billion
dollars
to
states
to
expand
high,
beat
high
speed,
broadband
and
14
billion
dollars
to
enhance
the
emergency
broadband
benefit
program,
the
ebb
that
would
actually
wind
up
reducing
down
the
pipe
down
the
the
monthly
discount
from
fifty
dollars
to
thirty
dollars
a
month
and
pricing.
It
is
gonna,
require
pricing,
pricing,
transparency
requirements
and
there's
gonna
be
a
2.7
billion
dollars
for
digital
literacy.
D
There's
a
recent
report
that
the
cost
of
broadband
at
all
price
points
has
steadily
dropped
since
2015.
speeds
off
offered
in
most
popular
tiers
have
increased
by
126
percent
from
2015
to
2021..
D
The
university
of
tennessee
is
going
to
develop
a
smart
corridor
in
downtown
chattanooga
under
a
1.37
million
dollar.
Grant
from
the
national
science
foundation
sounds
very
similar
to
the
clarendon
project,
the
project's
going
to
take
data
from
cameras
and
sensors
to
find
ways
to
enhance
public
safety,
traffic
and
air
quality,
as
well
as
study
how
5g
technology
will
help
improve
residents
lives.
D
D
D
D
Senators,
rubio
and
feinstein
are
behind
legislation
that
would
lead
the
state
department
to
designate
a
country
that
supports
cyber
criminals
as
a
state
sponsor
of
ransomware.
The
legislation
would
also
strengthen
cryptocurrency
regulations
and
would
mandate
development
of
cyber
security
protocols
for
infrastructure,
verizon
5g
home,
fixed
wireless
broadband,
expanded
to
52
cities,
the
the
5g
home
product
has
no
data
caps
or
throttling
has
a
one
gig.
One
gig
is
the
max
with
300
megabits
per
second
typical
speeds.
D
Fifty
dollars
per
month
is
the
price
for
existing
wireless
customers
and
seventy
dollars
per
month.
For
those
without
a
mobile
plan,
new
customers
will
receive
a
free
streaming
tv
device
and
a
samsung
chromebook.
D
D
for
a
project
to
be
eligible,
it
must
deliver
at
least
25
megabit
per
second
down
and
3
megabits
per
second
up.
The
northam
administration
anticipates
funding
a
mixture
of
medium-sized
isps,
electric
co-ops
and
municipal
providers.
It
views
publicly
owned
networks
as
risky
endeavors,
where
they
replicate
services
that
already
exist
at
scale
in
the
private
or
nonprofit
sector.
D
D
D
G
Yes,
I
I'd
like
to
go
and
take
a
look
at
it.
If
you
have
any
links
or
contacts
that
I
could
use,
that
would
be
helpful.
I.
D
Don't
but
I'm
sure,
if
you
look
under
university
of
tennessee,
they
probably
have
have
something
on,
and
I
know
that
nsf
is
involved.
Also,
they
may
have
something
on
it
and
I
think
I
just
recently
saw
that
university
of
tennessee
is
going
to
be
doing
some
additional
test
beds
up
in
in
the
knoxville
area
as
well,
but
this
particular
grant
was
for
chattanooga.
G
B
Frank
was
there
any,
I
know,
rochester
was
remember,
it
was
challenging.
The
the
the
small
cell
is
that
has
that
made
its
way
through
the
courts?
Have
we
had
any
update
on
them
or
has
that
did
that
get
settled
and
moved
on.
D
I
I
haven't
seen
a
decision
on
the
specific
rochester
case,
but
I
assume
that
at
this
point
the
ninth
you
know,
even
though
rochester's
not
in
the
ninth
circuit-
that
if
there
would
be
a
if
there
would
be
a
conflict
between
the
circuits,
then
the
supreme
court
might
have
another
crack
at
it.
But
I've
not
seen
the
decision
in
the
in
the
rock.
B
Right:
okay
and
then
what
you
read
about
the
high-speed
internet
for
from
virginia?
Yes,.
C
B
D
D
D
No,
no,
this
may
just
be
sort
of
a
preliminary.
You
know
preliminary
action
with
respect
to
the
federal
pandemic
relief
funding.
B
Got
it
okay,
great,
I'm
gonna,
take
chair,
privilege
and
I'd
love
for
everybody
to
introduce
themselves
to
andrea
and
gary
and
gary
when
you,
when
you
have
voice
again,
you
will
will
come
back
to
you,
but
if
you
could,
if
we
could
just
go
around
the
room
because
andrea
and
gary
have
introduced
themselves,
but
I
don't
think
they
know
they
might
have
heard
some
of
the
names
on
the
commission.
B
But
it'd
be
good
for
them
to
know
and
I'll
just
call
out
frank
you
might
as
well
start
and
then
and
then
we'll
go
to
john
and
mike
and
jackie
and
kevin.
D
Okay,
I'm
frank
jazza,
I'm
a
retired
communications
attorney.
I
was
at
the
arlington
based
roslyn
base,
fletcher
healed
and
hildreth
communications
law
firm
for
35
years,
I've
served
on
itac
or
the
tech
commission,
the
newly
branded
tech
commission
for
a
long
period.
I
have
previously
served
this
chair
and
before
that
I
was
vice
chair
again.
So
somehow
I'm
going
around
the
merry-go-round
here.
Oh
I've
been
I've,
provided
that
legislative
report
for
many
years
now
so
and
look
forward
to
continuing.
B
K
B
L
Mike
carlton,
I'm
a
retired
federal,
cio
retired
from
the
federal
government
10
years
ago
after
35
years
of
service.
I
think
it
was
the
last
11
of
them
that
I
was.
The
chief
information
officer
was
the
first
step
to
u.s
service
administration
and,
ultimately,
at
the
u.s
department
of
health
and
human
services.
Welcome.
F
Hi
nice
to
meet
you
been
on
the
commission
a
while.
I
have
a
long
background
in
telecommunications
planning.
Currently
I'm
doing
federal
contract
work
was
supporting
enterprise
infrastructure
solutions,
federal
contracting
process
for
the
new
services
to
the
government,
federal
government
across
agencies,
and
currently
I'm
doing
credentialing
work
for
gsa.
G
Good
evening
again,
jackie
snelling,
I'm
long-time
arlington
resident
active
in
civic
federation,
so
particularly
focused
on
how
all
of
the
things
that
we
do
impact
the
public
and
public
services,
retired
federal
at
fema,
where
education
for
the
public,
including
cyber
security
and
things
like
that-
also
a
lead
related
to
emergency
communications
methods
used
for
reaching
the
public,
everything
from
the
federal
alert
system
to
local
peace,
apps
and
coordination
with
noaa
and
whatnot.
B
Excellent
thanks
so
much
jackie
and
jack
and
then
we'll
go
on
to
kevin
and
luis
or
telcom
so
jack.
M
B
M
B
B
M
Sorry,
jack
hi,
my
name
is
joshua
farah,
I'm
a
white
house
presidential
innovation,
fellow
I'm
detailed
to
department
of
veterans
affairs,
office
of
resolution
management,
diversity
and
inclusion,
where
I
work
on
anti-harassment
discrimination
and
violence.
M
I
Yeah
hi
jack,
belter,
cio
allison
county
appreciate
the
time
to
introduce
myself
to
youtube.
So
it's
a
pleasure
to
have
you
joining
in
andrea
and
gary
to
you
to
have
us
join
us.
The
commission
plays
a
key
role
in
terms
of
county.
Remember
now:
you're
an
advisory
commission
to
the
board.
I
You're,
not
you
know
an
advisor
to
the
manager
and
so
there's
a
distinction
there,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
break
to
understand
that
in
terms
of
the
way
the
county
government
works
and
I'm
sure
you're
aware
of
this
is
that
we're
counting
manage
the
form
of
government.
So
it's
much
like
the
british
system,
where
we're
public
service,
and
so
the
manager
has
responsibility
and
authority
to
direct
county
staff.
I
County
board
can
provide
guidance
to
the
manager,
but
ultimately
it's
a
manager's
decision
to
make
so
the
challenge
we
have-
and
we
frequently
have
problems
or
issues
in
this-
is
that
you
can
provide
guidance
to
the
board
and
the
board
and
provide
guidance
to
willing.
I
He
wants
to
hear
what
you're
thinking,
but
again
it's
trying
to
do
that
in
the
in
a
manner
that
is
before
events
take
place,
and
so
that's
a
challenge
we
always
face.
So
it's
pleasure
to
have
you
on
board.
It's
a
good
group.
You're
joining
mary
and
frank,
are
great
leaders
and
it's
a
pleasure
to
have
you
join
us.
So
that's
that's
who
I
am
and
what
I
do.
N
B
Yeah,
it's
wonderful,
angela
has
been
it's
been
so
wonderful
having
having
your
support,
angela
and
then
also
gary
and
andrea,
for
your
for
your
benefit.
We
also
comcast
and
verizon,
usually
send
representatives
to
our
monthly
meeting
and
we're
fortunate
to
have
very
consistent.
We
have
kevin
from
comcast
and
louise
from
verizon,
so
louise
is
we'd
love
to
would
you
would
you
introduce
yourself.
H
Of
course,
I'm
louise
anderson,
I
handle
the
fios
tv
franchise
agreement
between
verizon
and
arlington
county,
but
I've
been
known
to
be
tasked
for
all
things:
verizon
finding
the
person.
Sometimes
if
there
are
other
issues,
that's
fine,
but
I
have
been
in
this
position
since
december
of
2013.,
so
I've
pretty
much
been
consistently
attending
these
meetings
for
a
long
time
so
happy
to
happy
to
be
here
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you.
C
Hi
kevin
broadhurst.
I
do
government
and
community
affairs
for
comcast
in
our
what
we
call
the
beltway
region,
which
is
dc
virginia
maryland.
But
I'm
the
representative
to
this
commission
and
an
arlington
resident
and
happy
to
be
here.
I
Maybe
I
think
it's
important
to
know
both
for
kevin
and
louise,
while
we
have
camp
cable,
franchise
agreements,
they're
purely
for
television
provision
you're
not
for
internet
access-
and
I
think,
there's
a
tendency
of
time
to
say
that,
because
we
have
a
franchise
agreement
with
comcast
and
verizon
that
it
it,
our
authority
extends
over
internet
provision.
It
does
not,
and
it's
only
for
television,
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
clarification.
I
B
And
that
those
negotiations
are
coming
up,
so
the
the
commission
as
richards
and
I've
you
know,
we've
talked
about
it.
The
commission
will
have
a
role
in
the
public
engagement
piece,
but
that's
on
down
the
road,
but
but
there
those
agreements
are
coming
up.
So
you'll
hear
more
about
that
as
richard
kind
of
outlines.
What
the
the
process
will
be
in
the
next
in
the
years
years
to
come
as
the
negotiation
unfolds
gary
do
we
have?
Any
luck
here
have
has
technology.
B
I
Hey
gary
I've
sent
you
some.
It
is
a
bubble
up
top
there.
That
says
it
looks
like
a
circle
with
a
dot
in
the
middle
and
what
I've
told
you
some
some
suggestions.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
click
on
that.
You
should
see
those
texts.
B
I
K
B
Well,
thanks:
everybody
did
I
miss
anyone,
I'm
looking
did
anyone.
Did
I
miss
anybody
on
the
on
the
list,
the
we,
I
really
appreciate,
frank
and
I
have
really
appreciated
the
response,
even
during
our
summer
break
in
july,
when
we
asked
for
legislative
priorities,
so
thanks
very
much,
we
actually
made
the
deadline.
They
extended
it
for
some
commissions
who
weren't
able
to
so.
We
wanted
to
show
you
that
before
that,
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
couple
of
updates
because
yeah
thank
you,
angela,
we'll
get
to
that.
B
In
a
second
frank
and
I
were
met
with
takus,
our
county
board
liaison,
he
gave
us
feedback
that
he's
really
finding
our
our
perspective
and
and
the
kinds
of
areas
that
were
focused
on
very
helpful
and
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
relayed
that
to
to
the
rest
of
the
commission
and
there's
also.
There
were
a
couple
of
things
that
happened.
While
we
were
on
break
one
was
I
signed
a
letter
with
the
other
commission
chairs?
B
Probably
I
think
there
are
about
50
commission
chairs
for
arlington
with
the
arlington
way,
and
I
think
there
were
about
25
or
27
of
us
that
signed
a
a
letter
requesting
that
the
commission
stay
virtual,
because
I'm
not
sure
if
all
of
you
knew,
but
there
was
some
debate
about
whether
we
would
go
back
face
to
face.
B
But
now,
with
the
delta
variant
and
the
county
chair,
matt
consulted
with
the
county
legal
county
lawyer
and
said:
yes,
we
will
stay
virtual
and
we've
actually
had
better
participation
since
we've
been
virtual,
so
we're
pretty
happy
with
it
and
actually
the
commission,
the
other
commissions
have
experienced
that
as
well.
So
at
the
moment
we
will
remain
virtual
and
our
september
meeting
will
be
virtual,
but
that
was
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
transpired.
While
we
were
while
we
were
on
break.
B
The
other
thing
that
occurred
was
was
the
request
for
legislative
priorities,
and
those
of
you
who
have
been
around
we
typically
the
the
profile
for
that
is
around
the
kind
of
the
the
rhythm
is
around
november,
is
when
the
board
begins
to
select
and
decide
what
priorities
they
are
going
to
collectively
in
northern
virginia
submit
to
richmond,
and
so,
if
I
don't,
can
we
make
that
a
little
bigger
angela
for
my
my
old
eyes?
B
O
B
O
Thanks
mary,
sometimes
nothing
is
easy
here,
but
first
I'm
really
happy
to
be
here.
My
name
is
gary
thayer
I've
been
an
arlington
resident
for
many
years,
along
with
my
wife,
deborah
and
I'm
a
retired
federal
government
attorney
with
35
years
of
experience,
primarily
in
telecom
regulation
and
intellectual
property.
O
I
also
had
a
bit
of
a
secondary
career
at
the
patent
and
trademark
office,
where
I
was
serving
for
about
10
years
or
so
as
a
senior
trademark,
examining
attorney,
and
that
is
about
it.
And
with
that
I
just
wanted
to
say
how
delighted
I
am
to
be
joining
you
all
with
the
tech
commission
team
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
that
and
seeing
some
familiar
faces
from
the
old
days.
O
B
B
I
mean
it
really
is
a
you
know:
it's
a
gift
of
of
the
locale
that
we
can
have
so
many
people
who
have
such
rich
and
robust
backgrounds
so
delighted,
I'm
so
glad
that
andrea
and
gary
you
could
join
us,
and
I
just
wanted
you
to
get
a
sense
about
the
experience
and
the
the
perspective
of
of
this
this
group
and
and
their
willingness
to
roll
up
their
sleeves
and
look
at
some
of
the
issues
and
look
out
beyond.
B
You
might
have
recalled
that
when
we
looked
at
their
legislative
priorities
at
one
point
from
from
northern
virginia,
none
of
it
was
tech
which
concerned
all
of
us.
So
we
we
went
back
at
it.
You
know.
Sometimes
you
asked
more
than
once
so
a
shout
out
mike.
I
appreciate
you
doing
the
the
first
one,
the
electronic
medical
records
standardization,
for
those
of
you
who
may
have
heard
us
may
not
have
heard
us
discuss
about
the
challenge
of
of
having
some
of
these
medical
records
being
aligned
and
standardized.
B
So
this
is
a
request
to
look
at
that
in
terms
of
the
health
care
providers
really
cooperate
so
that
there's
a
sharing
of
accurate
health
data
and
we'll
we'll
see
where
that
we'll
see
where
that
goes,
and-
and
we
really
appreciate
you
drafting
that
mic
and
and
getting
that
idea
and
really
what
what
these
are
is
ideas
that
we're
throwing
into
the
pot
and
tacos
really
has
reserved
the
right
to
come
back
and
say:
look?
Could
you
flesh
this
out?
B
Could
you
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
more
so
these
were
these?
Were
our
areas
not
surprising?
We
talked
about
bridging
the
digital
divide,
the
access
to
high-speed
internet.
We
divine
it
a
little
bit
faster
than
what
frank
outlined,
but
we'll
take
it.
You
know
a
gig
up
and
a
gig
down
would
be
would
be
a
good
starting
place,
but
at
least
at
least
making
sure
that
high-speed
internet
access
is
is
available
not
just
to
the
rural
areas
that
don't
have
high-speed
internet
access,
but
also
to
our
county.
B
Some
individuals
who
the
affordability
is
obviously
the
the
not
geography
but
affordability
is,
is
the
obstacle
and
then
one
that
I
think
I
think
john
burke,
you
were
the
one
who
did
the
digital
records
management
in
terms
of
looking
at
that
and
there's
some
who
you
know,
there's
been
some
debate
about
where
that
gets
handled.
But
I
think
again
it's
an
issue
that
that
is
is
good
to
bring
up
and
say
how
do
we?
B
How
are
we
going
to
deal
with
this
now
and
into
the
future
and
then
the
final
final
one
mike,
I
think,
mike
carlton,
I
think
we
we
had
reported
or
frank,
I
think,
had
reported
that
connecticut
is
now
making
the
calls
free
for
the
families.
B
B
So
we'll
we'll
see
what
gets
what
gets
put
on
the
agenda,
but
all
all
commissions,
all
arlington
commissions,
were
asked
for
three
or
four
items
that
they
thought
would
be
really
important
from
their
commission's
perspective,
and
so
this
is
what
we
we
submitted
and
and
we'll
let
you
know
if
something
you
know
anything
comes
back
in
terms
of
asking
us
us
questions
or
wanting
some
more.
B
You
know
more
clarity
around
some
of
the
things
that
we've
recommended.
We
probably
because
the
new
deadline,
our
deadline,
was,
I
think,
july
20th.
They
extended
the
deadline
to
august
20th.
If
there
is
a
burning
issue
that
any
of
you
think
of,
I
would
think
that
we
still
could
submit
something
just
because
they
are.
They
are
still
in
the
divergent
mode
from
a
board
point
of
view.
They
haven't,
they
haven't
converged
totally
yet.
So,
if
there's
something
that
any
of
you,
please
feel
free
to
send
frank
and
me
a
suggestion,
and
we
can.
B
We
can
pass
that
on
any
any
questions
about
any
questions
about
this.
This
list
or
the
the
state
legislative
priorities.
B
Okay,
well
again,
thanks
thanks
to
those
of
you
who
are
able
to
to
respond
and
and
for
us
to
be
able
to
get
get
that
to
them
quickly,
so
we
could
get.
We
could
get
up
in
the
up
in
the
queue
now
the
next.
The
next
on
our
list
is
reviewing
the
draft
june
minutes.
Since
we
took
july
off
nh.
I
know
frank:
you
had
some
changes
that
you
you
sent
to
you
sent
to
angela
any
other
changes.
B
Oh
okay,
so
so
just
in
general,
yeah,
okay,
so
not
specifically
about
the
june
minutes,
but
yeah!
Okay
got
it;
okay,
all
right
so
we'll
we'll
get
to
that
mike
after
we
we
either
amend
or
adopt
or
any
any
other,
any
other
any
changes
to
to
the
minutes.
Any
additions,
deletions
corrections.
Anyone
want
to
make.
B
All
right
well,
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
to
accept.
B
Okay,
frank
you're,
you're
muted,
though.
C
B
D
B
Any
any
opposing.
B
Any
abstentions,
all
right
minutes
adopted
and
then
mike
you
wanted
to
make
a
recommendation
just
in
general
about
minutes.
L
Yeah
I
I'd
like
to
propose
that
we
change
the
style
of
our
minutes
in
view
of
the
fact
that
the
meetings
are
being
recorded.
L
You
know,
when
they're
in
tired
and
verbatim
the
value
of
narrative
synopsis
of
what
was
said
seems
like
it's
one
piece
of
it
that
might
be
redundant
and
what
I'd
like
to
propose
is
prominently,
maybe
right
after
the
attendance
and
the
date
that
we
have
a
salient
actions
section
and
that
we
record,
for
example,
whenever
the
board
asks
us
for
advice
and
whenever
we
render
advice
so,
for
example,
in
the
legislative
proposals
that
would
be
very
straightforward.
We
would
have
recorded
that
we
received
this
request
for
advice.
L
We've
rendered
this
advice
and
then
the
real
fun
will
be,
and
then
we
see
what
becomes
that
place
and
we
may
want
to
record
it
but
track
it.
But
I
think
that
at
least
in
my
three
plus
years
now
we
haven't
often
had
that
sort
of
traction
in
the
conversation
or
even
the
the
follow-through.
L
B
No,
that
makes
yeah
that
makes
sense,
because
there
are
obviously
there
are
quite
a
few
outstanding
at
the
moment
right,
there's
quite
a
few
things
that
we
have
weighed
in
on
and
they're
still
being
either
the
decision
has
been
made
or
not
or
and
to
jack's
point.
I
think
one
of
the
things
we're
trying
to
do
is
align
the
decision-making
of
the
board
that
that
the
commission
is
trying
to
get
ahead
of
that
right,
because
one
of
the
challenges
we've
had
is
just
reacting.
B
So,
for
example,
last
year
I
think
we
got
a
request
for
legislative,
frank.
Keep
me
honest
here.
I
think
we
got
a
request
for
legislative
list
in
november
right,
so
we
said
look.
Could
we
have
a
little
earlier
so
that
we
could,
you
know,
actually
be
able
to
talk
about
and
and
say
why
we
think
these
are
the
critical
things,
so
that
makes
sense.
B
B
K
Requests
for
the
for
the
website
for
the
tech
commission
website
and
the
same
kind
of
vein,
one.
That's
appropriate
mary.
K
I
think
it
would
be
really
helpful
if
we
could
get
the
letters
that
we
sent
posted.
You
know
the
in
the
presentation
that
mike
prepared
that
we
sent
as
an
attachment.
You
know
whenever
we're
sending
things
to
the
board,
I
think
it
it's
it.
The
transparency
behooves
posting
that
on
the
website
saying
that
this
letter
was
sent,
you
know
just
as
make
it
available
to
the
general
public,
because
I
don't
see
those
as
being
available
to
the
general
public
right
now,
they're
not
up
there.
So.
B
N
Yeah
there's
so
many
pages
for
the
tech
commission
that
is
hard
to
keep
up
with
what
page
has
what
it
would
be
nice
if
it
was
narrowed
down
to
maybe
two
pages
and
everything
is
on
those
two
pages,
but
there's
about
four
different
browser
web
site
browsers
to
go
to
for
tech,
commission
information,
so
it's
kind
of
scattered
all
over
the
place.
If
we
can
narrow
it
down,
then
we
can
get
everything
in
one
place.
B
Because
to
your
point
I
mean
it
kind
of
combines
mike
and
john.
What
you've
said
is
the
having
the
salient
actions
very
visible
on
the
front
of
of
the
the
tech
commission
website
as
well,
because
john,
even
though
you
know
what
it
is,
you
couldn't
find
it
on
the
on
the
website
right,
yeah,
okay,
so
it's
a
matter
of
so
angela.
That's!
B
Let's
take
that
as
our
action
item
to
look
at
how
we
can
how
we
can
make
that
more
friendly
in
terms
of
being
able
to
access
the
because,
for
example,
mike's
presentation
is
there
as
well,
but
it's
very
difficult
to,
I
think
for
people
to
find
so
that's
and
I
think
we
were
going
to
do
it
based
on
being
able
to
search,
because
at
the
moment
it's
based
on
meeting
when
it
occurred
the
meeting
when
it
occurred.
So
maybe
now
we
need
to
do.
We
need
to
look
at
it.
B
That
done
to
see
if
how
we
can
and
angela
obviously
I
can.
I
can
help
too
if
we
need
to
make
some
decisions
about
ner.
As
you
said,
narrowing
I
mean
you've
been
you've
already
gotten
andrea
and
gary
and
richard
you're
already
on
there.
So
that's
that's
that's
up
to
date,
but
we
appreciate
john
appreciate
the
the
comment
and
let's
see
if
we
can
make
it
easier
for
people
to
find
what
we've
you
know,
what
we've
done.
B
Any
other
any
other
comments,
any.
K
B
Yes-
and
we
have
asked
for
a
presentation
on
that,
john,
so
we
will
we
will
with
jbg
and
we
will.
I
think
we
are
going
to
look.
Actually.
I
think
we
were
going
to
look
at
september
if
that's
possible
and
if
it
isn't
then
we'll
push
it
to
october,
but
yeah
that
that's
on
our
our
september
and
the
other,
the
other.
B
The
other
thing
we
want
to
look
at
is
we'd,
like
raj
the
cio
of
schools,
to
brief
us
because
there's,
as
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
money
coming
into
educational
systems.
So
we
want
to
get
a
sense
from
him
about
how
they're
looking
at
tech
and
what
they're
doing
but
yeah
absolutely.
K
Mary
specifically,
I
was,
I
was
actually
more
interested
from
the
county
perspective
on
whether
or
not
we
have
a
policy
about
this,
and
you
know
we're
creating
the
innovation
zone,
and
you
know
crystal
city,
I'm
not
gonna
call
it
national
landing
lived
here
too
long.
H
K
Corridors
right,
what
about
the
boston,
roslin
corridor?
What
about
the
columbia
pike
you
know,
is
there:
how
does
that
fit
in
with
the
general
policy
on
leasing
dark
fiber?
Do
we
have
a
policy
on
leasing,
dark,
fiber,
etc,
etc?
So
I
was
looking
at
it
more
from
a
county
policy
perspective
than
I
know
why
jbg
wants
it.
That's
pretty
obvious.
B
Yeah,
no
that's
and
will
richard
is
that
is
that
possible
for
september
and
then
mike?
I
know
you,
you
have
your
hand
up.
K
So
we
haven't
even
received
a
briefing
on
it
richard
from
the
from
because
it
was
posted
on
the
19th
of
july,
which
was
after
our
last
meeting
but
before
before
the
this
meeting.
So
we
don't,
they
haven't
really
officially
been
told
about
it
other
than
what
maybe
individuals
as
a
commission
other
than
what
individuals
may
have
gone
and
read
or
potentially
watch
the
board
meeting.
K
J
On
it,
okay,
I
will
ask
I'll
get
with
jack
who's
a
little
bit
closer
to
that
specific
item
and
a
couple
of
jack
who
are
on
that
side
of
the
house
and
see
what
we
can
come
up
with.
L
It
would
be
reasonable
to
assume
that
we
would
wish
to
continue
to
be
rendering
advice
when
it
came
time
to
actually
lease
and,
and
then
the
part
of
the
announcement
that
john
was
referencing.
That
was
the
most
perplexing
to
me
was
the
duration
of
the
agreement,
which
I
think
was
80
years
and-
and
I
I'm
I'm
delighted
to
have
gary
and
some
others
on
here.
I've
done
a
lot
of
telecommunications
purchasing
for
the
federal
government.
I've
not
really
done
any
selling
but
80
years.
L
If
I've
got
the
number
right
is
a
tremendously
long
time
to
enter
a
commitment
with
a
single
developer
and
I'm
not
clear
why
we
wouldn't
have
made
the
period
of
time
shorter
and
renewable
based
on
some
set
of
circumstances.
Certainly
the
the
money
exchanged
by
the
time
you
deflate
it
out
80
years
is
couldn't
possibly
be
of
any
value
to
arlington
taxpayers
who
paid
for
the
infrastructure.
L
B
Yeah,
I
think
the
first
one
mike
we've
had
frank
and
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
jack
about
the
this
gets
into
the
decision-making
right
in
terms
of
alignment
and
the
non-disclosures
between
the
county
and
and
and
jbg
before
it
was
officially
announced,
but
I
think
all
those
things
that
will
be
helpful
to
you
know
one
is
the
the.
What
was
the
underlying
assumptions
to
have
that
extended
time
right,
that's
one
question
and
then
the
second
question
is
moving
forward.
B
Is
there
and
jackie?
I
do
see
your
hand
moving
forward.
Is
there
is
what
what
is
what's
the
policy
frame
for
the
dark
fiber
with
others,
given
that
now
we've
established
one
relationship
with
jbg
and
so
and
and
also
we'd
love
to
hear
about?
I
mean
I
I
know
in
in
just
in
principle
that
there
was
some
support
for
the
digital
digital
equity
in
the
county,
which
was
a
really
helpful,
but
all
those
things
would
be
helpful
for
us
to
hear.
B
So
if
it
is
possible,
it'd
be
great
for
us
to
have
it
at
our
september
22nd
meeting,
so
we
could
get
a
sense
right
about
not
only
this.
I
don't
you
know
the
as
as
you
and
I
think
mike
and
john
have
outlined.
What
we'd
like
to
know
is
what
the
kind
of
the
underlying
assumptions
and
the
principles
moving
forward.
You
know.
What's
the
drivers
for
for
making
those
those
decisions
right,
jackie.
L
And
mary,
if
I
might,
if
I
might,
the
briefing
could
just
include
a
description
of
the
process
by
which
such
decisions
are
made
in
our
it
governance
we
were
advocating
that
jack
should
be
involved.
You
just
spoke
sort
of
with
the
assumption
that
jack
was
involved
for
the
part.
That
sounds
good,
but
obviously
someone
in
the
procurement
side
must
have
been
involved,
somebody
in
economic
development
and
I'm
not
trying
to
dictate
it.
I'm
trying
to
understand
it
right.
G
Yes,
my
question
is
actually
somewhat
related
to
all
of
the
others
that
have
been
mentioned
because
on
our
past
briefings
and
discussions
on
why
it
was
not
being
used.
The
way
we
had
initially
anticipated
when
we
made
the
investment
we
talked
about
where
the
policies
and
the
assumptions
for
leasing
might
be.
G
B
Great
thanks
so
much
all
right.
I
we
actually
see
see
this.
Gary
and
andrea
are
already
good
influence,
because
this
might
be
the
first
time
that
we
ended,
maybe
like
three
or
four
minutes
before
the
end
of
the
meeting
before
7
30..
So
we
try
to
end
on
time
and
start
on
time
show.
But
this
this
was
a.
This
was
a
a
good,
a
good
meeting.
Thank
you
any
so
richard
we
will.
We
will
connect
on
that
to
get
that
to
get
that
ready,
hopefully
for
september,
if
not
september,
then
october.