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A
B
We're
delighted,
I'm
delighted
to
have
you.
Well,
let's
we're
at
the
top
of
the
hour.
Let
me
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
then
are
there
any
public
comment
before
we
get
started.
B
All
right
hearing
none
tonight
we
have
guest
speaker,
telly,
tucker
and
mark
from
the
arlington
economic
development,
council
and
they're
here
to
talk
to
us
about
economic
development,
the
role
of
technology
and
specifically
about
the
jbg
smith
agreement
that
they
negotiated
about
connect,
arlington,
so
kelly
and
mark
this.
This
team
is
obviously
very
interested
in
both
the
macro
and
the
micro,
so
we're
delighted
that
you
could
join
us
and
and
welcome
telly.
I
think
this
is
the
first
time
telly
you
have.
F
Yes,
that's
correct.
I
started
here
in
arlington.
G
In
january
of
last
year,
just
before
the
all
the
excitement-
and
it's
been
an
interesting
first
18
months
right-
but
we've
hit
the
ground
running-
we've
got
some
unique
challenges
ahead
of
us,
but
I'm
pleased
to
be
here.
I've
got
a
great
team,
great
leadership,
team
and.
G
Okay,
I
think
that's
better
so
before
I
get
started.
Thank
you.
First
of
all,
for
the
invitation,
and
as
mary
mentioned,
my
name
is
telly
tucker
a
little
bit
about
my
background.
I
have
15
years
plus
in
and
experience
economic
development
all
around
the
state
from
from
hampton
roads
to
southern
virginia
to
richmond
virginia,
both
at
the
local
and
state
level.
It's
my
pleasure
to
serve
as
the
economic
development
director
for
for
those
of
you
who
may
maybe
unfamiliar
with
economic
development.
G
We
have
seven
divisions
about
50
employees
within
the
department.
We
oversee
everything
from
business
attraction,
retention,
business,
intelligence,
real
estate,
development,
small
business
support
cultural
affairs,
which
involves
our
arts
community,
our
our
convention
and
visitor
services
team,
which
is
similar
to
a
a
cvb.
G
We
also
have
a
group
that
focuses
on.
I
think
I
mentioned
small
business.
We
do
a
business
in
espanol
program
as
well,
and
and
then
we
have
an
internal
teams
that
focus
on
marketing
communications
and
all
of
our
operations
functions,
including
hr.
G
H
Yes,
thanks
to
ellie
and
thanks
everyone
for
having
us
this
evening.
As
so
I
said,
I
run
the
what
we
call
the
real
estate
development
group
within
aed.
Primary
focus
is
working
with
our
businesses
and
property
owners
to
bring
investment
into
arlington
and
practice.
That
means
working
a
lot
with
planning
on
some
of
the
regulatory
environment,
but
also
a
lot
of
special
projects,
whether
it
be
real
estate
related,
but
also
I'm
a
veteran
of
the
connect
arlington
process.
H
G
Thanks
mark,
so
what
we
thought
we
would
do,
maybe
is
just
provide
some
some
background
information
on.
First
of
all,
why
what
the
role
that
technology
plays
in
an
economic
development
organization,
specifically
arlington
and
then
I'll?
G
Let
mark
talk
a
little
bit
about,
maybe
summarize
some
of
the
deals
between
in
the
jbg
smith
deal
and
and
then
we'll
we'll
talk
about
how
you
know
our
forward
thought
thinking
around
our
the
development
of
a
tech
ecosystem
and
the
role
that
amazon
plays
and
a
few
other
things
so
we'll
we'll
maybe
provide
some,
hopefully
some
context
for
you
all
for
the
next
10
to
15
minutes
and
then
give
you
all
an
opportunity
to
ask
some
questions
at
the
end.
Hopefully,
is
that
if
that
sounds
okay.
G
Great,
absolutely,
okay,
so
in
in
economic
development,
particularly
here
in
arlington,
we
you
hear
the
the
county
board
and
you
hear
many
people
talk
about
innovation
and
and
what
does
that
mean
for
us
in
economic
development?
Well,
innovative
organizations
do
require
a
certain
amount
of
technology
infrastructure
if
they're
going
to
be
considered,
what's
cutting
edge
or
or
reliable,
secure
and
ultra
fast.
G
If
we're
going
to
be
competitive
from
a
business
attraction
standpoint,
we
have
to
have
cutting
edge,
innovative
technology
and
infrastructure
so
specifically
within
arlington,
we're
home
to
a
high
concentration
of
cyber
security
companies,
government
contracting
companies
and
they're
all
critical
to
our
nation's
security
infrastructure
as
well.
G
So
we
years
ago,
following
the
base,
realignment
closure
act
and
sequestration,
we
made
a
conscious
effort
to
diversify
our
our
local
sector
base
away
from
primarily
just
federal
government
and
contractors
associated
with
the
federal
government
to
making
sure
we
include
a
more
a
diverse,
diverse
portfolio
of
companies
to
include
things
like
emerging
technology,
blockchain
technology
iot
cloud
computing.
G
These
are
just
a
few
of
the
types
of
technologies
that
we
want
to
see
companies
to
diversify
our
sector
base,
and
so
we've
been
doing
that
over
the
last.
I
would
say
five
to
seven
years,
very
intentionally
such
that
when
you
have
shifts
in
the
in
the
macro
economic
environment-
and
you
maybe
have
some
sectors
that
are
not
doing
so
well,
you
have
other
sectors
that
prop
them
up.
G
So
as
we
seek
to
create
these
clusters
of
emerging
technologies,
the
the
there
was
an
opportunity
that
came
up
for
wide
scale,
deployment
of
5g
communication
and
we've
been
hearing
a
lot
about
5g
finding
out
what
opportunities
they
are.
We've
we've
seen
examples
of
of
companies
that
are
looking
for
that
type
of
connectivity
that
to
develop
their
new
intellectual
property
and
technology
and
to
have
places
where
they
can.
They
can
test
that
and
bring
that
to
market.
G
So,
if
we're
looking
at,
you
know
an
environment
where
it's,
I
would
describe
it
post
pandemic,
it's
even
worse,
but
even
prior
to
the
pandemic.
It's
a
really
really
competitive
environment,
fierce
competition
between
economic
development
offices
and
just
cities,
and
counties
in
general
who
are
competing
for
business,
not
to
only
recruit
new
business
to
re,
but
to
retain
the
the
business.
That's
there,
and
one
of
the
things
that
you
constantly
have
to
think
about
in
in
economic
development
is
how
do
we
maintain
a
competitive
advantage?
G
What
assets
do
we
have
that
would
attract
people
here
and
to
keep
people
here,
and
so
beyond
our
office
buildings
companies
are
looking
for,
among
other
things,
probably
the
first
is
talent
and
and
in
the
employees
that
they're
going
to
need
to
continue
to
be
successful,
and
we
were
delighted
when
cbre
last
year
named
this
region.
G
The
number
two
region
in
america
for
for
tech,
talent,
just
behind
the
new
york
area
and
so
a
lot
of
people,
don't
necessarily
think
about
the
the
metropolitan
area
as
as
a
hub
for
tech
talent,
but
indeed
it
is,
and
so,
in
order
for
us
to
continue
to
maintain
that
talent
as
we're
developing.
Our
educational
institutions
are
developing
world-class
talent
here
and
the
investments
made
with
the
amazon
deal
into
the
new
virginia
tech,
innovation
campus
and
what
gm
george
mason
is
doing
and
a
number
of
others.
G
G
That
arlington
needs
to
be
thinking
about
and
staying
ahead
of
the
curve
on,
so
that,
hopefully
gives
you
a
sense
of
the
kind
of
the
macro
focus
around
why
technology
is
important
specifically
to
arlington
economic
development
and
how
we're
trying
to
focus
on
the
growth
of
tech,
both
private
sector
and
public
technology
infrastructure,
which
enables
us
to
to
recruit
and
retain
the
companies
that
are
that
are
good
for
our
market
and
to
help
continue
to
diversify
the
sector
base
that
we
have
I'm
going
to.
G
Let
mark
talk
a
little
bit
about
specifically
some
of
the
terms
of
the
deal
and
how
that
came
to
be
with
jbg
smith
and
and
then
I'll
come
back
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
amazon's
arrival
and
and
how
that
helps
build
on
on
some
of
what
we
are
thinking
so
mark.
Would
you
like
to
take
it
away.
H
Yeah
great,
thank
you
telly
yeah,
so
the
the
first
thing
to
know
is
that
the
connie
received
an
unsolicited
proposal
by
jw
g
smith,
relative
to
a
broader
initiative
that
they
were
looking
into
relative
to
smart
cities,
innovation
and
creating
a
5g
at
scale,
condition
in
national
landing
to
build
upon,
obviously,
the
real
real
estate
portfolio
and
their
success,
attracting
with
the
county
and
with
the
state
amazon
as
well
as
other
as
taylor
mentioned
many
other
efforts
to
fill
their
office
buildings
and
to
fill
the
residential
buildings.
H
So,
as
with
any
case
when
we
received
an
unsocial
proposal,
we
go
through
the
process
of
looking
at
what
the
broader
values
and
and
benefits
are.
Does
it
align
with
county
policy?
Does
it
make
use
of
resources
for
their
intended
use?
And
then
what
is
the
nature
of
the
deal?
And
is
it
a
good
deal
for
the
county
for
lack
of
a
better
term?
So
when
we
started
this
process,
many
months
before,
the
board
ultimately
took
action.
We
went
in
with
a
number
of
key
what
I'd
call
set
of
foundational
elements.
H
One
was
that
the
deal
should
have
broader
economic
development
impacts.
Second,
that
the
you,
the
transfer
or
leasing
or
licensing.
However,
you
want
to
couch
it
of
any
assets,
did
not
move
us
from
a
position
of
abundance
of
assets
to
scarcity
and
that
those
assets
were
that
are
that
would
be
transferred
were
put
there
for
their
intended
use
for
economic
development
and
third,
that
the
county
was
fairly
compensated
beyond.
H
Even
the
economic
development
benefit,
which
is
still,
the
prime,
was
still
the
primary
focus,
but
that
there
was
a
helpful
discussion
of
with
internally
and
then
a
series
of
negotiations
with
jbg
smith
on
what
that
asset
would
be
worth.
So
what
we
ended
up
with
and
what
the
board
took
action
on
was
an
iru
or
indefeasible
rights
of
use
for
conduit
and
fiber
assets
for
a
essentially
a
99-year
term.
A
75
plus
24.
H
The
conduit
had
fiber
in
it,
but
the
conduit
was
really
in
figuring
out
which
conduit
could
be
transferred
and
then
which
conduit
the
county
would
retain
for
future
use,
and
so
the
deal
as
presented
to
the
board
that
they
voted
on
allowed
us
to
transfer
one
of
four
conduit
along
the
connector
arlington
trunk
line
and
any
associated
spurs
or
laterals,
but
also
maintain
a
conduit
for
county
use
and
that's
important
note,
that's
above
and
beyond
a
conduit
use
for
kind
of
use
for
things
like
the
traffic
signals
and
public
safety
and
those
sort
of
things.
H
So
this
is
what
we
call
the
dts
conduit
versus
the
economic
development
conduit.
So
we
were
very
we
we
believe
we
held
true
to
that
standard
of
of
maintaining
flexibility
and
opportunity
in
the
future,
while
still
transferring
an
asset
that
was
put
in
the
ground
for
the
very
purpose
of
economic
development.
H
There's
the
national
landing
conduit,
there's
also
the
pentagon
run
along
bridge
conduit,
which
were
related
to
connect,
arlington
same
concept,
maintaining
both
access
and
opportunity
for
the
county,
while
providing
those
routes
to
help
the
national
landing
assets
connect
out
of
national
landing
and,
as
I'm
sure
you
you're
probably
aware,
the
negotiated
fee
was
a
one-time
upfront
fee.
H
Although
the
one
time
is
really
in
two
separate
stages,
relative
to
construction
of
one
of
the
the
long
bridge
pentagon
run
of
three
and
a
half
million
dollars,
and
that
was
a
extensive
negotiation
on
what
the
value
was
of
an
asset
that,
quite
frankly,
is
very
difficult
to
value.
We
value
things
differently
in
the
public
sector
than
the
private
sector
does
when
usually
it's
about
what
revenue
is
produced
off
of
it.
H
So
that
was
a
very
interesting
series
of
negotiations,
but
we
think
we
ended
up
with
a
really
good
value
for
the
county.
G
And
mark,
would
you
also
just
share
relative
to
the
value
that
we,
the
monetary
value
we
got
in
comparison
to
what
was
invested
at
the
time
we
we
put
the
fiber
in
the
ground.
H
Yeah,
so
one
of
the
the
way
we
got
to
the
value
is
a
number
of
different
ways
of
looking
at
a
value
and
of
an
asset
like
that,
and
one
of
those
was
what
was
the
value
that
we
had
already
invested
in
this
area
of
the
ass
of
the
assets
being
transferred,
and
that
was
roughly
over
in
3.1
3.2
million
dollars
around
there.
So
we
got
more,
even
if
it's
in
present
terms
roughly
the
same
recovery
of
assets.
H
We
also
looked
at
what
it
would
cost
jbgs
to
replicate
that
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
providing
them
enough
of
a
gap
where
they
would
achieve
that.
They
would
accept
our
compensation
offer
for
the
assets,
because,
quite
frankly,
we
didn't
want
them
digging
streets
and
creating
redundant
assets,
but
also
that
there
was
enough
of
a
of
of
a
of
a
tie
to
the
asset.
Value
for
them
was
really
their
ability
to
not
have
to
do
that.
H
Construction
and
also
the
time
the
time
that
they
were
saving
speed
to
market
and
being
able
to
do
eventually
what
they
announced
the
deal
with
at
t
of
having
assets
in
the
ground
and
not
having
to
wait.
9
18
24
36
months.
However
long
it
takes
for
some
of
these
things
to
get
done
to
be
able
to
get
those
assets
in
place.
G
Okay,
thanks
mark-
and
I
think
one
of
the
the
points
of
clarification
that
we
we
like
to
to
make
sure
people
understand
is
that
this
is
a
portion
of
the
county's
excess
fiber
that
was
put
in
the
ground
for
for
economic
development
purposes,
and
so
one
of
the
things
mark
mentioned
earlier
during
his
comments
was
we
were
one
of
our
goals
was
to
be
keen
not
to
go
from
a
position
of
abundance
to
scarcity,
and
I
think
we
maintained
and
accomplished
that
goal
in
the
sense
that
we
have
still
excess
fiber
to
be
able
to
service
future
economic
development
needs
where
elsewhere
in
the
county,
if
we
need
to,
and
so
that
was
that
was
a
key
goal
for
us
that
we
we
maintain
through
through
the
entire
negotiation
process.
G
So,
as
we
think
about
you
know
why
why
you
know
this
5g
smart
scale,
why
a
fiber
iru
in
national
landing?
G
In
that
area,
as
where
amazon's
being
built,
they
had
an
interest
and
then
they
their
investment,
their
25
million
investment
in
cbrs
spectrum
technology
all
played
a
part
in
their
unsolicited
proposal,
and
so
thinking
about
you
know,
as
we
kind
of
shift
gears
here
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
what's
happening
with
amazon
and
and
how
the
momentum
are
created
with
amazon
continues
to
spur
future
technology
growth
and
spin-offs
and
new
entrepreneurs
in
the
in
the
tech
ecosystem.
G
We
believe
that
it
made
a
lot
of
sense
to
look
at
trying
to
leverage
the
the
energy,
the
momentum
and
the
investment
that
has
been
made
in
that
area.
Prior
to
the
pandemic.
G
G
G
So
in
recent
months
you
know,
interest
from
out
of
our
market
has
started
to
increase,
particularly
national
landing,
and
we
expect
that
to
continue
as
the
as
the
health
situation
improves
from
the
pandemic
and
as
hq
2
nears
closer
to
completion.
G
We
think
that
they're
going
to
be
opportunities
for
new
technology
companies
that
want
to
have
access
to
you
know
a
5
5g
ubiquitous
connectivity
in
the
national
landing
area
and
that
want
to
be
in
reasonably
close
proximity
to
amazon
for
the
purposes
of
developing
new
technology.
That
might
take
advantage
of
that
that
you
know
that
connected
5g.
G
G
The
as
a
reminder
to
to
many
people
the
because
the
the
deal
it's
hard
to
believe
that
the
deal
is
more
than
two
and
a
half
years
old.
Now
the
centerpiece
of
virginia's
proposal
was
a
statewide
investment
in
computer
science
and
related
programs
to
more
than
double
virginia's
tech,
talent,
pipeline
and,
of
course,
virginia
tech
and
george
mason
were
a
big
part
of
that
and
the
investment
to
build
out
those
two
campuses
in
arlington,
the
national
landing
innovation
district.
G
There
was
a
lot
of
conversation
about
around
an
innovation
district
and-
and
why
is
that
critical?
And
we
believe
that
the
the
board
was
really
excited
about
the
advancing
of
an
innovation
district
to
create
an
environment
for
this
tech
tech
ecosystem
to
continue
to
flourish
and
for
entrepreneurs
and
other
fortune
100
companies
to
to
want
to
be
in
close
proximity
to
where
this
type
of
innovative
partnership,
public
private
partnership
is
going
on.
G
And
there
are,
you
know,
we've
done
some
research
on
on
where
other
innovation
districts
are
in
in
the
united
states,
and
there
are
some
around
college
campuses
and
some
around
major
metropolitan
areas.
But
none
of
our
research
found
any
of
this
size
and
scale
and
we
think
that's
a
differentiating
factor
for
arlington
in
really
a
way
that
we
can
create.
It
continue
to
create
a
competitive
advantage
and
be
leading
edge.
G
So
you
know
one
of
the
questions
that
you
know.
People
ask
us
and,
and
one
of
the
ones
we
considered
actually
when
we
were
doing
this
deal
was,
is
this
model,
something
that
could
be
replicated
or
followed
by
any
other
user?
And
I
think
I
I
think
it's
a
perfect
example
of
a
project
that
could
be
replicated
elsewhere.
G
G
No
not
exactly,
but
we
do
think
that
the
the
model
that
was
created
by
what
jbg
smith
brought
to
the
table
does
make
a
lot
of
sense
and
and
mark
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
obstacles
in
the
past
of
why
kind
of
one-off
dark
fiber
agreements
with
with
individual
companies,
we
hadn't
been
able
to
bring
any
of
those
to
fruition
in
the
last
five
years
for
numerous
reasons
and
I'll.
G
Let
them
talk
about
those,
but
but
we
think
the
the
model
that
was
created
by
the
jb
deal
had
some
really
unique
components
that
were
unique
to
them
because
of
the
scale
and
the
breadth
of
in
the
control
of
the
real
estate
that
they
own
and
then
to
their
their
investment
in
in
the
cbrs
spectrum
technology
that
I
mentioned
before.
G
So
let
me
let
mark
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
had
over
the
last
five
years
or
obstacles,
if
you
will
in
in
reaching
other
dark
fiber
agreements,
because
a
lot
of
people
said
well,
you
know
you
had.
The
asset
has
been
in
the
ground
for
quite
some
time,
and
this
is
the
actual
first
deal
that
has
come
to
fruition
and
there
I
think
there
are
some
reasons
why
so
mark
I'll?
Let
you
take
it
from
here.
H
Yeah
I'll
try
to
be
brief.
No,
I
know
folks
want
to
maybe
ask
questions,
so
we
do
have
an
existing
dark,
fiber
licensing
structure,
board,
approved
rates
and
license
agreement
that
was
essentially
structured
to
release
individual
strands
of
fiber
along
the
entirety
of
the
connected
arlington
ring
and
at
that
time,
with
the
goal
of
not
the
the
some
fear
of
whether
someone
would
lease
a
lot
and
squat
on
it
or
not.
H
We
had
you
know
I
would
say
periodic
but
significant
interest
from
businesses
and
property
owners,
as
well
as
some
telco
providers,
but
could
never
really
close
the
deal
and
I'll
say
that
for
one
the
rates
we
think
are
still
below
market,
I
don't
think
it
was
a
per
mile
rate
issue.
We
never
got
a
little
push
back
a
lot
of
pushback
on
the
actual
rate
of
the
fiber
license.
H
The
real
issue
that
we
ran
into
was
that
from
starting
with
businesses,
even
very
sophisticated
users
of
fiber,
that
are
very
big
data.
Driven
organizations
still
don't
fully
know
how
to
utilize
or
want
to
know
how
to
utilize
dark
fiber
in
and
of
itself.
They
need
end-to-end
solutions,
so
they
need
that
service,
but
just
giving
them
access
to
dark
fiber
how
to
everything
from
how
to
get
into
their
building,
from
a
physical
standpoint
to
how
to
light
that
fiber
in
a
efficient
and
redundant
and
cost
effective
way.
H
Really
is
where
a
lot
of
the
issues
as
we
talked
with
companies,
and
we
and
we
had
very
specific
discussions
with
them
about
using
the
connector
onto
fiber.
That's
where
all
fell
apart,
and
they
essentially
fell
back
on
what
they
know,
which
is
to
call
the
big
guys
and
sort
of
say
what
can
I
get
for
this
level
of
service
and
and
and
the
the
telco
companies
or
the
medium
ones,
in
some
cases
we're
able
to
provide
those
end-to-end
solutions?
H
We
also
had
a
lot
of
interest
from
what
I'd
call
the
medium-sized
telco
companies
ones
that
are
typically
leasing,
dark
fiber
as
part
of
their
business
model.
They
don't
own
a
lot
of
fiber
they're
they're
connecting
routes
again.
The
pushback
we
got
was
one
just
the
risk
of
of
taking
on
an
agreement
with
the
county.
The
mismatch
of
how
a
county
looks
at
a
legal
agreement
and
what
a
small
business
or
medium
business
looks
at
in
terms
of
its
risk
and
also
the
the
persistent
problem
of
the
lateral.
H
How
do
you
get
into
buildings
who's
going
to
maintain
that
that
lateral,
proper
owners
for
for
what
it's
worth
are
the
the
commercial
markets?
You
know
commercial
community
is
pretty
lagging
in
terms
of
innovation.
I'll
say
that
that's
not
necessarily
a
criticism,
but
it's
more
of
a
reality
of
the
conservative
nature
of
that
business
and
they
don't
want
to
laterals
either
because
they've
worked
for
you
know
they
understand
their
model,
which
is
that
verizon
or
comcast
comes
into
their
building
and
builds
the
lateral
and
maintains
it.
H
So
we're
really
seeing
a
mismatch
between
sort
of
the
county's
ability
to
provide
that
that
end-to-end
solution
and
who
may
be
interested
in
the
dark
fiber.
So
this
opportunity,
as
we
began
to
analyze
it
began
to
solve
some
of
those
problems.
It
created,
the
bridges
of
who
is
going
to
implement
that
who,
who
is
going
to
work
with
the
telco,
to
provide
the
lit
service?
Who
is
going
to
provide
the
real
estate?
H
G
So
I
think
we've
done
a
lot
of
talking.
Hopefully
that
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
contextual
background
and
some
history
on
how
this
came
to
pass.
Why
it's
critical
or
critically
important
to
our
economic
development
strategy
and
how
we
believe
there
are
going
to
be
some
some
opportunities
to
leverage
that
asset
for
future
economic
development,
growth
and
wins,
which
is
ultimately
again
why
the
asset
was
put
in
the
ground.
G
So
why
don't
we
stop
and
pause
here?
Maybe
take
some
questions
from
the
group
if
there
are
specific
things
that
you
would
like
for
us
to
touch
on
in
further
detail.
B
Right
open
it
up
to
commission
members,
questions.
B
I'll
go
first,
I
can't
see
any
if
someone
has
their
hand
up,
I
don't
I
don't
see
it
at
the
moment
mark
I
we
have
met
the
as
I
to
two
questions.
One
was
there
a
digital
equity
component
to
this
deal
as
well.
H
So
I
I
will
also
have
telly
and
answer
that,
but
I'll
start
off
by
saying
one
of
the
drivers
of
our
negotiation
with
the
compensation
was
to
get
immediate
resources
that
we
felt
were
fair,
but
also
that
would
be
provided
immediately
with
the
direction
from
the
manager
that
there
was
a
desire
to
build
up
a
resource
bank
for
digital
equity.
H
Now
the
question
of
what
that
would
be
used
for
is
still
with
the
manager
right,
but
what
we
did
is
we
provided
resources
that
we
think
provide
a
significant
dent,
not
never
providing
all
the
resources
needed,
but
provide
a
good
start
to
to
that
effort.
Okay,.
E
E
I
think
this
model
does
work
for
other
types
of
uses
of
the
dark
fiber,
with
the
limitations
that
you
have
on
having
lip
fiber,
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
this
work,
and
I'm
thrilled
that
you're
doing
it,
particularly
in
national
landing
and
what's
really
exciting
about,
is
that
they
have
virginia
tech
coming
in
and
I'm
hoping
that
they
will
start
to
to
teach
wireless
engineering
etc,
and
they
can
use
that
5g
network
to
kind
of
prove
out
different
opportunities
and
to
teach
people
about
it.
E
So
it's
just
a
great
deal
all
around
and
it
does
pay
back
the
county
for
a
lot
of
the
expenditure
that
it
made
for
this.
Finally,.
H
E
That's
still
a
pretty
small
part
of
the
overall
network,
yep
so
value
the
whole
network
at
way
beyond
what
the
county
paid
for.
If
you
could
actually
monetize
that,
I
guess
my
other
question
is:
are
other
vendors
able
to
use
the
fiber
there's
the
jbg
deal
with
att
exclusive.
H
And
and
again
I
think
we
we
pushed
jbg
smith,
although
it's
hard
to
put
in
a
legal
agreement
trying
to
predict
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
not.
We
wanted
to
be
an
infrastructure
infrastructure
provider,
but
not
try
to
negotiate
something
that
was
going
to
get
into
the
operations
model
when
they're
still
trying
to
figure
it
out,
but
we
we
did
certainly
put
in
a
strong
push
and
we
think
we
do
believe
jbg
smith
as
the
real
estate
owner
wants
competition
right.
H
They
want
to
provide
the
best
possible
service
to
their
tenants,
not
out
of
some.
You
know
some
some
some
benevolent
good,
but
because
it's
going
to
be
a
highly
competitive
marketplace
and
while
they
own
a
lot
of
real
estate,
other
people
in
real
estate
as
well
and
to
attract
the
best
companies
with
the
best
talent
they're
going
to
have
to
show
that
they
have
offer
the
best
amenities
in,
in
this
case,
the
hard
infrastructure
of
service.
H
H
E
H
G
Yeah
they've
communicated
to
us
that
they
hey
jbg
smith,
has
no
interest
in
becoming
a
telecom
communications
provider
themselves
and
that
they
are
willing
to
work
with
any
and
everybody
who
was
willing
to
work
with
them.
It's
in
their
interest
to
do
so,
and-
and
we
think
that
that
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
for
them
to
do
that.
So.
D
B
D
Hi,
I'm
audio
only
because.
D
F
D
Fire
off
a
couple
I'll
fire
up
a
couple,
quick
ones:
99
years
is
an
extremely
long
time
for
a
technology
agreement
and
I'll
just
say
on
quick
background,
the
largest
one
I
ever
did
was
as
a
cio
for
federal
agency.
It
had
a
10-year
duration
and
a
2
billion
dollar
estimated
value,
but
99
years
just
kind
of
completely
floors
me,
especially
on
a
first
go
at
something.
Can
you
explain
what
the
value
of
99
years
is?
D
H
Yeah
I'll,
I
can
answer
part
of
that
and
part
of
it
is
about
where
this
fits
in
the
infrastructure,
investment
strategy
for
jbg
smith
and
now
their
partner.
This
is
still
a
piece
of
the
puzzle,
they're
going
to
put
many
multiple,
mores
and
millions
into
infrastructure
and
continue
to
build
a
network
over
the
next
several
years
and
beyond,
and
so
part
of
this
is
about
an
investment
payback
strategy.
Our
requirement
that,
if
they
put
under
10
million
dollars
into
the
ground,
they
want
to
make
sure
the
county
10
years
later
doesn't
say.
H
Well,
we
changed
our
mind
and
they're
left
with
the
only
pieces
they
put
in,
which
don't
complete
the
puzzle
and
that
they
know
that
over
the
over
the
many
generations
they're
going
to
have
to
recycle
this.
Obviously
the
useful
life
of
fiber
and
conduit
is
long
relative
to
some
other
things,
but
it's
still
limited.
The
other
thing
I'll
say
is:
this
is
pretty
typical.
H
This
is
part
of
a
technology
deal,
but
once
again
we're
just
providing
the
infrastructure
we're
not
providing.
I
would
say
the
you
know
the
that
we're
creating
a
piece
of
infrastructure.
This
is
much
more
common
in
real
estate,
where
a
ground
lease
is
typically
75
to
99
years,
where
someone's
building
a
building
on
land,
they
don't
own,
but
they're,
leasing
and
needs
to
be
able
to
to
to
depreciate
that
cost
and
then
justify
new
investments
as
that,
as
that,
as
that
asset
needs
significant
reinvestment.
H
So
I
can
tell
you
it
was
a
question
that
was
asked
at
the
board
by
the
board
of
us
as
well.
We
understand
the
question
and
understand
that
99
is
a
long
time,
but
this
is
not
just
the
lice.
Well,
we
looked
at
it
as
and
with
our
partners
in
dts.
This
is
not
just
a
fiber
deal.
This
was
really
an
asset
deal
and
part
of
that
flows
into
how
we'd
look
at
sort
of
say.
H
If
we
were
ground
leasing,
let's
say
for
courthouse
plaza,
which
has
started
off
as
a
nine
nine
year,
ground
lease
and
is
now
down
to
you
know
less
than
that.
But
so
that's
part
of
the
answer.
D
Yeah
two
two
other
quick
ones.
If
I
might
well,
I
have
the
floor.
One
is:
does
this
mean
jbg
smith
is
now
the
gatekeeper
to
those
fibers
and
and
although
you've
spoken
as
if
it's
automatic,
that
any
tenant
of
jvg
smith
could
have
access
to
this,
while
non-tenants
of
jbg
smith
could
not
does
jbd
smith,
have
the
right
to
grant
or
withhold
access
to
this
fiber
to
their
tenants.
H
To
to
withhold
to
their
tenants
or
to
withhold
to
that
well,
one
is
the
fiber
that
was
transferred
is
just
part
of
the
fiber
in
the
ground,
so
they
do
not
have
the
ability
to
control
how
the
county
uses
its
excess
fiber.
Nor.
D
H
Well,
I
I
would
just
answer
that
in
terms
of
this
is
providing
another
telecommunication
options
to
buildings
in
in
crystal
city
and
pentagon
city,
national
landing.
But.
H
H
There's
a
separate
llc
set
up
so
when
we
say
jbg
smith,
obviously
we
talked
with
jbg
smith.
That's
what
came
out
of
that,
but
the
agreement
is
is
actually
with
an
llc
that
was
set
up
to
for
this.
For
this
smart
cities,
innovation,
which
part
of
the
18th
I
can
tell
you,
att's
motivation
is
not
to
limit
their
customer
base
so
then
bring
it.
D
On
yeah
thanks
that
clarifies
that
to
me
and
then
the
last
one
again
from
the
skeptical
column.
I
I
regard
arlington
as
being
a
little
underdone
on
regulating
technology
and
and
when
I
hear
innovation
center,
I
often
hear
a
general
reference
to
relaxing
or
waving
policies.
I
have
difficulty
finding
any
policies
to
waive.
So
could
you
identify
for
us
I'll,
say
for
the
record
the
policies
on
the
books
in
arlington
now
that
the
economic
development
people
think
could
generate
more
economic
development
if
we
waive
them.
G
So
let
me
start
with
that.
Mark.
You
know,
as
far
as
policies
that
are
on
the
books,
they
have
not
requested
the
waiving
of
any.
At
this
point
where
we
are
in
the
process
is,
we
are
trying
to
identify
both
public
and
private
uses.
G
That
would
benefit
from
the
the
5g
tech
access
to
the
5g
technology
and
if
there
are
specific,
say
like
test,
if
there
was
a
test
case
or
a
test
bed
that
that
wanted
to
request
permission
to
have
something
to
do
something
out
of
the
ordinary
that
didn't
currently
allowed,
they
would
have
to
go
through
the
process.
Just
like
anybody
else
would
to
ask
for
either
special
a
special
exception
to
be
made
or
a
special
provision
to
be
made.
G
D
I
know
we
need
them
for
our
economic
development,
I'm
not
against
them.
I'll
say
they
have
a
very
solid
track
record
of
innovating
for
economic
gain
in
the
short
term,
at
the
expense
of
security
and
privacy
costs
in
the
long
term,
and
the
latter
fall
to
the
citizens
into
the
country
not
to
the
investors
in
the
innovative
company.
G
I
appreciate
that
feedback
and
and
and
that
point
of
view,
and
that's
something
that
I
know
jack
you,
you
and
your
team
also
have
an
eye
toward
toward
that
as
well.
D
G
G
I'm
not
sure
you
know,
I'm
not
sure.
I
understand
what
you're
asking
me
from
from
a
list
of
of
I
mean
we
have
lots
of
regulations
on
the
books,
but
but
I'm
not
sure
I
mean
to
say
that
we
need
to
produce
a
list
that
could
potentially.
C
It
could
be,
I
don't
agree
with
that
at
all.
I
that's
not
the
case,
so
I
could
give
up.
So
I'm
not
sure
where
you're
going
with
this,
but
you
know
those
are
discussions
that
take
place
at
the
fcc.
C
What
we
can
do,
what
we
control
say
in
5g
and
when
they
stand
up,
they
have
defended
the
policies
of
what
we
can
control
what
we
cannot
if
we
think
that
we're
not
being
somebody's,
not
surveilling
us
now
on
polls,
are
they
checking
where
you
go,
what
you
do
and
it's
happening
all
the
time
if
you
use
facebook
you're
doing
facial
recognition.
So
it's
an
argument.
I
understand
the
argument,
but
I
I
don't
think
it
has
validity
in
this
discussion.
D
B
Yeah
jack,
I
think
I
think
and
mike
let
me
see
if
I'm
translating,
if
I'm
not
hitting
the
mark,
let
me
know
I
think
the
question
is:
I
have
a
company
and
telly's
meeting
with
me
and
telly
outlines
and
says:
look
you
know
we
have
this
special
innovation
hub,
but
these
are
the
these.
Are
the
guidelines
in
order
for
you
to
play
in
this
sandbox
right
and,
and
so
the
question
is,
are
have,
are
we
there
yet
do
we
have
guidelines
for
the
you
know
the?
B
Where
kind
of
the
right
and
the
left
is,
you
know,
say
you
can
experiment
all
you
want.
But
here
are
the
you
know
here
are
the
guard
rails?
Maybe
we
don't
have
those
but
just
curious
about.
What's
the
kind
of
what's
the
price
of
admission
to
get
into
that
innovation,
sandbox
telly
does
that?
Does
that
help,
and
mike
am
I
reflecting
correctly.
D
G
E
I
was
just
gonna
respond
and
say
that
often
these
long-term
irus
or
releases
are
not
that
atypical
in
the
world
of
dark
fiber
in
commercial
agreements,
they're
often
very
long.
It's
almost
like
a
purchase
agreement
for
that
long
of
a
term,
but
given
that
there's
still
this
opportunity,
as
I
understand
it
for
other
uses
with
that
same
fiber
as
well
as
other
fiber
throughout
the
county
that
isn't
part
of
the
deal,
it
seems
like
a
reasonable
way
to
go.
Since
it's
consistent
with
commercial
practices.
B
I
had
a
I
had
another
thanks
jonathan
since
you
all
have
already
and
mark
you
I
mean
I
I'm
I'm
sure
you
just
did
a
happy
dance,
because
you
have
been
involved
in
this
so
long
and
to
have
this.
You
know
finally
be
there
at
the
where
you
proof
the
concept
you
know
significantly.
B
H
I
could
start
then
telling
and
also
jacking
away.
I
I
think
during
our
due
diligence
for
this
we
talked
to
a
lot
of
people
that
were
talking
to
us
about
other
ideas
they
would
have.
I
would
tell
you,
I
think
everyone
on
the
property
owner's
side
is
in
terms
of
replicating
what
jbg
smith
did
exactly,
I
think,
are
excited
intrigued.
They
don't
own
they're,
not
in
the
same
position
as
jbg
smith.
H
I
think
jbg
smith
has
been
very,
I
think,
very
open
not
just
to
us,
but
to
others
that
their
cbr
spectrum
would
be.
Obviously,
a
return
would
be
available
to
others
if
they
don't
own
real
estate
holdings,
but
they
also
own
significant
properties
in
roslyn
and
obviously
alexandria,
where
they
have
the
cbrs
spectrum.
H
But
the
idea
of
using
the
dark,
fiber
and
creating
a
partnership
with
the
private
sector
telco
looking
at
real
estate,
looking
at
who
controls
that
real
estate
and
then
utilizing
the
connie's
asset
dark
fiber
for
really
what
it's
best
intended
for,
which
is
as
that
piece
of
infrastructure
that
connects
it.
All,
I
think,
is
a
model
we'll
start
to
see.
I
can't
say
immediately,
you
know
it's
only
been
a
couple
months
and
it's
been
over
the
summer
epidemic.
So
we
haven't.
H
You
know
we
haven't,
got
a
lot
of
meetings
on
it,
but
I
think
I
I
think
commercial
real
estate
in
particular
when
facing
tenants,
are
lemmings
right
and
and
when,
when
one
succeeds,
they
all
then
try
to
replicate
it.
So
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
both
regionally
and
within
arlington,
we
see
other
commercial
programs
saying
how
can
I,
how
can
I
offer
that
level
of
service
in
my
building
as
well?
What
do
I
to
need
to
do
to
invest
in
that?
To
do
that.
B
Okay,
john
and
then
jonathan,
you
might
have
another
comment
right
or
is
your
hand
up.
E
From
sorry
that
was
left
over.
I
Thanks
so
two
questions
more
from
a
from
a
policy
standpoint,
one
specifically
for
this
deal
and
then
one
more
broadly
for
economic
development.
First,
for
this
deal
were
there's:
are
there
specific
aspects
of
county
policy
that
helps
guide
you
as
you
evaluated
this
unsolicited
proposal,
and
if
so,
could
you
point
them
out
to
us
because
I
haven't
been
able
to
to
find
them
and
then
and
then
two
more
more
generically
for
economic
development?
I
It?
What
counting
policies
exist
today
that
guide
you
on
from
a
technology
perspective
for
economic
development
thanks.
H
Tell
you
want
me
to
crack
at
the
first
question,
I
think
your
prayer
better
take
the
crack
of
a
second,
I
think
the
the
policy
and,
if
you
talk
about
policy
with
a
little
p
right,
board
actions
that
create
precedent.
H
Clearly,
what
we
relied
on
when
it
came
in
when
we
spoke
with
the
manager
and
and
talked
with
the
board
at
the
appropriate
times,
was
the
policy
directive
of
making
of
why
the
investment
was
made
in
the
first
place
in
this
additional
conduit
that
was
put
in
for
the
purpose
of
economic
development.
So
this
wasn't
using
assets
that
was
put
in
for
different
reasons,
and
we
were
shifting.
H
I
Part
of
it
and
sorry
just
to
follow
up
on
that,
the
the
there's
there
was
an
intended
use
when
they,
the
board,
authorized
connect
arlington
in
the
first
place.
H
Yes,
particularly
for
this
conduit,
not
I
don't
connect
arlington
was
as
jack
can
describe,
was
obviously
an
effort
to
control
our
own
destiny
with
with
franchising
agreements
and
to
provide
better
its
on
trent,
but
the
fourth
condo
of
the
third
condo
with
the
fourth
conference
maintenance.
But
the
third
conduit
was
called
economic
development
conduit.
That
864
was
specifically
denoted
for
economic
development.
Now
again,
we
thought
that
would
be
towards
licensing
strands,
to
businesses
or
to
property
owners,
but
this
was
just
a
different
model
to
realize
that
policy.
I
Sure
could
you
could
you
send
that
that
reference
to
that
board
action
just
for
our
from
our
benefit
yeah.
H
C
One
thing
we
pointed
out
and
mary's
had
on
this
group,
and
so
did
jonathan-
is
that
we
put
together
a
man
to
put
together
a
broadband
commission
to
identify
what
the
ills
of
way
connect,
arlington
was
situated
and
set
up,
and
many
of
the
recommendations
that
mary
in
that
group
made
we
exhibited
in
what
came
out
in
this
agreement,
such
as
the
duration
of
the
of
the
license.
C
It
takes
businesses,
don't
as
much
as
adequately
stated
they're
not
going
to
make
a
business
deal
based
on
a
three-day
lease
or
five
release.
They're
gonna
have
some
some
substantial
reality
in
the
in
the
in
the
least.
The
idea
that
much
of
the
wording
of
the
licensing
agreements
would
put
all
the
liability
on
the
person
applying
for
it
and
mary.
C
You
remember
this
when
we
talked
about
it
with
the
broadband
commission
that
we
all
said
that
ain't
going
to
work,
we
got
to
change
that,
and
so
this
agreement,
if
you
look
at
what
we
do
with
this,
is
we
didn't
allow
sub
licensing,
because
we
were
fearful
that
somebody
couldn't
could
make
money
off
of
this.
C
You
know,
and
those
things
appear
in
this
agreement
and
I
think
those
were
as
much
as
well
stated-
small
p
policy,
but
we
were
inhibited
by
that
hobble
and
I
think
this
agreement
really
sets
a
tone
for
how
we
can
go
forward
and
do
your
original
some
of
these
original
requests.
Yes,
we're
getting
a
lot
of
interest
because
years
of
picking
up,
they're
saying
wait
a
minute.
This
makes
a
little
bit
more
sense
than
it
did
when
he
first
presented
this
kelly
I'll,
let
her
hand
off
to
you.
B
C
The
exact
dollar
amount
yeah.
The
exact
problem
escapes
escapes
me
at
this
point
in
time,
but
we
know
this
when
we
we
and
our
friends
from
comcast,
I
know
kevin's
on
diagnosis
we
had.
C
We
took,
we
looked
at
our
neighboring
jurisdiction,
alexandria
and
found
out
how
much
they
were
going
to
have
to
pay
per
building
to
connect
using
behind
it
as
they
call
it
institutional
network,
and
so
we
did
the
arithmetic
and
said:
okay,
let's
see
what
we
could
do
by
if
we
apply
that
what
would
cost
us
in
the
county
at
that
level?
How
could
we?
How
could
we
realize
our
cost,
and
we
did
that
in
2013?
C
I
do
you
think,
is
it
that
far
ago
yeah
2013.
C
years
ago
and
we
found
within
within
five
years
with
equally
investment?
What
we
placed
in
the
connect
down
was
equal
in
terms
of
the
savings
now
kevin
will
argue
the
case,
and
rightly
so-
that
didn't
give
us
a
chance
to
sharpen
our
pencil.
We
probably
could
have
done
something
better
for
you,
but
at
that
time
that's
what
we
were
driven
by
the
exact
amount.
C
It
came
from
a
variety
of
sources:
public
safety
grants
its
intelligent
transportation
grants.
Ground
was
open.
We
took
advantage
of
taking
that
plug
in
the
hole
with
with
conduit.
So
I
I
can
get
you
that
number,
but
I
don't
have
the
exact
number
in
front
of
me
and
I
hesitate
to
throw
a
number
until
I
get
that
it
seems
like
not
only
yesterday,
but
it
was
over
nine
years
ago.
Maybe
wow.
C
H
B
C
The
feds
didn't
help
us
at
all.
I
mean
we
built
the
connect,
downs
and
piece
which
was
designed.
The
manager
will
tell
you
if
he
was
on
this
car.
We
did
this
portion
of
it
for
the
pure
purpose
of
expiring
economic
development,
so
this
was
excess
fiber
that
we
were
making
available
and
to
put
it
in,
we
put
in
864
streams
of
fiber.
We
had
to
replace
these
hand,
holes
that
virginia
department
of
transportation
had
put
in
and
those
wonderful
people
charged
us
for
every
paint
hole.
We
pulled
out
an
expansion
yep.
F
B
No,
no
and
I'm
I'm
telling
you
mark,
I'm
sorry.
Normally
we
don't
keep
our
guests
almost
an
hour,
but
this
has
been
so
you
know.
So
interesting
and
frank
did
you
have
any
question
before
we
before
we
go
on.
I
More
generic
terms,
what
policy
currently
exists
that
guides
economic
development
in
the
technology
space
for
from
the
board.
G
So
I
wouldn't
say:
there's
a
there's,
a
formal
policy,
if
you're,
if
you're
kind
of
referring
to
how
we
decide
which
types
of
technologies
we
want
to
recruit,
attract
that's
more
of
the
there's
more
economic
development
strategies,
it's
unique
to
each
director,
each
business
investment
manager
that
comes
into
the
space.
G
What
we
try
to
do
is
build
on
what
we're
seeing
by
way
of
latest
trends
in
the
market,
which
ones
are
projected
for
growth
over
the
next
five
10
15
years,
and
as
you
might
imagine,
as
technology
evolves,
they
too,
our
strategies
evolve
with
them.
So
I
don't
know
that
it
would
be
very
difficult
to
define
a
specific
policy
associated.
You
know
that
we
could
stick
with
for
a
long
term,
because
I
feel
like
the
the
evolution
of
the
technology.
G
We
have
to
be
nimble
with
it.
If
we're
going
to
take
advantage
of
opportunities
that
are
out
there
for
the
benefit
of,
I
think
one
of
the
previous
questions.
I
went
ahead
and
pasted
the
definition
it
was
included
in
the
board
report
of
innovation
district
because
we
defined
it
and
agreed
to
it,
but
really
the
areas
of
getting
back
to
john,
your
question.
G
The
areas
of
focus
and
national
landing
have
been
primarily
around
cyber
big
data
management
cloud
computing
edge,
computing,
iot,
there's,
probably
one
more
I'm
missing,
but
we're
looking
for
technology
firms
that
are
are
developing.
You
know
new
uses
for
for
those
concentrated
sectors
in
those
concentrated
sectors,
and
they
can
be
a
wide
variety
of
sectors.
I
mean
they're
they're
everything
from
we
had
headlines
a
while
ago
from
a
a
major
port
transportation,
company,
cma
cgm,
which
is
a
french
owned
company.
G
That's
developing
new
what
they
call
industry,
40,
transport,
transportation,
automation,
technology
using
you
know
everything
from
additive
manufacturing
to
you
know
to
to
cyber.
So
it
really
depends
on
what
opportunities
we
become
aware
of
and
whether
we
think
they
make
sense
and
are
a
good
fit
for
arlington,
based
on
the
talent
that
we
have
in
the
infrastructure
we
have
here
and
are
they
projected
for
growth?
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that
that
helps
answer
the
question
that
you're
you're
asking.
I
No,
it
does
very
much,
and
this
is
more
of
a
comment,
so
no
response
required,
but
mary.
You
know,
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
think
about
on
this
commission
is,
you
know,
while
the
specific
technology
may
change
over
time,
principles
and
values
never
go
out
of
style,
and
so
I
think
you
know
there
are
people
playing
in
all
these
spaces
who
are
more
responsible
than
other
players,
and
I
think
it
would
probably.
I
I
would
like
to
see
a
economic
development
policy
that
specifically
and
intentionally
recruited
those
more
ethical
and
responsible
players,
because
I
think
that
more
aligns
with
arlington's
community
community
values-
and
I
think
that's
a
prime
example
of
why
we
need
why
we
need
a
comprehensive
plan
element
to
speak
to
this
kind
of
space,
because,
right
now,
staff
is
left
to
do
the
best
job
that
they
can
without
this
guidance-
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
deal
and
I
want
to
commend
you
on
it,
but
you
know
we're,
I
think,
from
a
policy
standpoint
we're
failing
staff
by
not
providing
that
framework.
D
Yes,
yeah
mike
this
is
mike.
This
is
mike.
Can
I
add
at
the
risk
of
stating
obvious-
and
this
is
pretty
simple-
I
would
use
the
term
policy
for
something
that's
written
down
for
use
prospectively,
the
idea
of
looking
at
past
board
actions
and
inferring.
What
the
policy
is
is
useful
and
it's
often
part
of
a
case
review
type
thing.
But
when,
when
I
say
policy
I
mean
something
written
down
that
says
what
we
intend
to
do
and
be
in
the
future.
B
J
Actually,
no
additional
questions,
but
just
a
historical
observation.
I
think
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
the
commission
had
been
involved-
and
I
believe,
weighed
in
on
the
original
connect,
arlington
proposals
at
the
board
in
support
and
then
the
the
additional
dark
fiber
proposal
as
well.
So-
and
this
is
exactly-
I
think,
what
we
envisioned-
we
didn't
know
what
form
it
would
take.
J
I
think
we
had
hoped
that
you
know-
maybe
other
government
agencies,
educational
institutions
or
businesses
would
come
make
use
of
this,
and
this
is
exactly
what
we
had
hoped
would
happen
and
it's
happening.
So
I
want
to
say
kudos
to
the
county,
we're
hanging
in
there
and
and
making
this
come
come
about,
and
I
do
believe
that
as
far
as
the
power,
I
I
think
that
the
template
for
what
dark
fiber,
what
was
you
know,
ran
through
the
county
attorney
and
I
think
the
board
did
sign
off
on
what
the
you
know.
J
B
Okay,
well
telly
and
mark.
Thank
you
so
much
and
I
you
now
are
the
marathon
guest,
because
we
kept
you
a
full
hour,
so
my
apologies,
but
it
was,
it
was
really
we
needed
the
we
needed
the
time
and
we
appreciate
you,
you
being
so
generous
with
it,
so
keep
up.
B
J
All
right
I'll
try
to
keep
it
brief.
Our
friends
across
the
river
at
the
fcc
will
consider
a
notice
of
proposed
rulemaking
to
examine
the
wireless
network,
resiliency
cooperative
framework,
the
fcc's
network,
outage
reporting
rules
and
strategies
to
address
the
effect
of
power
outages
on
communications
networks,
which
is
very
relevant,
given
what
happened
in
texas
this
winter
and
what
happened
in
louisiana
more
recently.
So
so
the
fcc
is
taking
a
look
at
those
resiliency
issues.
J
The
fcc
is
also
seeking
comments
on
three
issues
related
to
broadband
in
multiple
dwelling
units
mdus,
including
revenue
sharing
agreements,
exclusive
wiring
deals
and
exclusive
marketing
packs
between
landlords
and
isps.
The
fcc
wants
to
determine
whether
these
effectively
block
out
competitors,
impact
price
or
quality
of
service.
Current
rules
prohibit
exclusive
access
deals.
J
J
B
All
right
and
martha
robo
called
just
for
you.
He
hasn't
had
a
robo
call
comment
and
you're
here
and
he
does
so
and
jack.
I
know
richard
is
on
vacation.
Do
you
mind
giving
us
a
anything
for
dts
that
you
want
to
update
us
on.
C
Not
much
but
we're
concentrating
on,
you
know
the
continued
move
towards
more
mobility.
You
know
we're
very
concerned
that
what
we're
seeing
with
the
covets
gonna
come
back
and
and
and
we're
recognizing
that
our
workforce
to
hold
it
together
and
we're
seeing
it
across
the
board
of
minnesota
board
meeting
last
night
and
in
terms
of
what
fight
what
police
are
being
facing
in
terms
of
shortages
and
human
services.
C
Libraries
parts
and
we
we're
fearful
of
that
happening
with
the
county
workforce
and
so
as
much
as
we
can
make
sure
that
people
have
access
anytime
anywhere
to
the
services
they
need
to
conduct
the
business
to
serve
the
constituents.
That's
our
goal
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
work
on
and
also
keeping
well
in
mind
that
cyber
security
is
critical.
You
know
it's
not
a
question
of
how
we're
going
to
get.
C
B
All
I
got
thank
you.
Okay,
thanks
jack
and
john
thanks
for
the
report
on
the
gao
report
on
contact
tracing
that
was
really
good
yep.
That
was,
that
was
really
good,
really
highlighted
a
couple
of
critical
issues
around
privacy
and
security
and
trust
and
all
those
things
so
that
gave
us,
and
those
of
you
who
haven't,
haven't,
looked
at
the
link.
It
really
does
reinforce
some
of
the
things
we've
been
talking
about.
So
thanks
for
thanks
for
flagging
that
john.
B
Sharing
is
caring
right,
angela
sent
out
the
minutes
and
we
do
not
want
you
to
think
we
ignored
their
request
about
action
items.
Angela
is
meeting
with
the
webmistress
to
to
make
sure
that
we
redo
the
the
website.
So
so
people
can
see
some
of
those
more
easily,
and
so
we
should
have
a
report
for
you
by
next.
Hopefully,
in
october,
it'll,
look
a
little
a
little
different
and
then
get
feedback
from
all
of
you.
D
Okay,
hey
mary,
this
is
my
hi
mike
I
don't
have
any.
I
don't
have
any
verbatim
recommendations,
but
I
would
like
to
elaborate
on
the
front
piece
and
then
pick
up
on
your
comment.
That
is,
I
think
we
should
go
back
I'll,
say
just
to
put
a
stake
in
the
ground
two
years
and
itemize,
every
request
for
information.
We've
made
itemize
every
rendering
of
advice,
we've
made
either
requested
or
unsolicited
and
then
keep
track
in
like
old
business.
B
D
Right,
but
I
think
the
problem
is
like
I
just
got
at
least
two
no's
today
like
asking
for
information
about
this
and
that
it
strikes
me
as
not
a
good
way
to
retain
free
talent
in
a
commission
when
you're
asking,
I
think,
legitimate
questions
in
the
purview
of
the
commission
and
getting
told
no,
you
can't
have
the
information
or
no.
There
is
not
such
information.
D
I'd
say
you
know
we're
going
to
find
that
a
large
percentage
of
our
requests
don't
don't
attract
any
response
whatsoever.
B
Well
indeed,
we
we
will
be
restructuring,
so
we
see
that
easily
just
so,
you
know
angela
has
four
different
sites
that
we're
trying
to
integrate
at
the
moment.
So
I
think
we
will
it.
It
should
be
easier,
frank
and
I
had
a
look
at
it
with
angela
showing
us,
so
I
think
we
will
make
that
easier
and
be
able
to
track
mike
to
your
point.
D
I
B
You
asked
and
you
received
right
and
excellent
yeah,
and
that
was
really
it
was.
It
was
helpful.
Okay.
Can
we
make
that
any
any
heartburn
about
making
that
that
change
to
the
to
the
minutes,
and
then
we
can
move
forward
I'll,
entertain
a
motion
to
adopt,
as
amended.
J
B
J
B
Aye
hearing
and
I
any
opposed
any
abstentions-
all
right
minutes,
minutes
from
august
approved
and
we
will
meet
again
october.
27Th
seems
far
away,
but
it'll
be
here
sooner
than
we
think
virtually.
I
think
you
know
the
county
decided
at
one
point
we
were
going
to
go
face
to
face,
but
now
we
are
virtual
for
the
foreseeable
future.
So
we'll
be
back
here
in
teams
october
27th,
any
any
other
announcements
before
jackie.
A
Yes,
an
announcement,
and
that
is
that
the
civic
federation
will
be
hosting
a
presentation
by
the
county
on
the
safety
and
innovation
zone
project
at
its
october
12th
meeting,
and
while
some
of
the
details
are
still
being
finalized.
I
believe
the
presenter
will
be
dr
miller.
A
A
A
Yes
and
I'll,
send
you
the
the
invite
for
the
registration
if
people
are
interested
and
then
there's
going
to
be
so
it's
going
to
be
dr
miller
and
then
there'll
be
15
minutes
of
questions
that
are
pre-identified,
some
of
which
have
been
similar
to
questions
asked
here
in
other
places,
and
then
there
will
be
15
minutes
from
members
delegates
and
that's
why
you
have
to
register
as
we
have
to
know
who
are
the
delegates
and
who
aren't.
B
B
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much
any
other
announcements
before
I
before
I
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn
frank.
B
The
minutes-
yes
thanks,
frank,
absolutely
good,
good!
All
right!
Well,
everybody
have.
I
would.
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.
J
J
B
I
think
that's
this
might
be
our.
We
were
early
tonight,
my
goodness
so
I'll
see
you
all
on
the
27th
and
have
a
have
a
good
month.