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A
A
So
briefly,
I
will
say
this
on
covet
since
the
beginning
of
the
response
right,
so
my
role
for
those
that
don't
know,
I'm
aaron
miller,
the
county's
director
of
public
safety,
communications
and
emergency
management,
so
I've
got
911
in
emergency
management
and
when
the
county
has
an
incident
or
a
large
emergency,
one
of
the
roles
that
I
take
on
is
in
what
we
call
the
unified
command
role
and
so
together.
B
A
Varghese
sort
of
manage
the
the
structure
and
function
of
how
the
county
responds
the
whole
economic,
whole
county
approach
to
incidents,
emergencies
or
disruptions
to
our
our
operations,
and
so,
since
the
beginning
of
this,
I
will
tell
you
you
know:
technology
has
been
at
our
sort
of
at
the
forefront
of
either
solving
problems
or
creating
them
in
in
the
way
that
this
has
happened.
Where
we
are
now
is,
I
will
say,
things
have
gotten
a
little
bit
better,
but
we
remain
at
the
bottom
of
the
food
chain.
A
There
is
a
you
know
there.
There
is
in
in
this
instance,
I
think
you
know
the
the
accountability
of
a
local
government
right
being
the
touch
point
of
of
its
of
its
residents
and
of
its
community
is
absolutely
absolutely
more
true
here
than
it
has
ever
been
working
across
systems
that
have
been
designed
while
we're
in
the
middle
of
the
pandemic,
or
you
know
otherwise,
not
exactly
suited
for
some
of
the
response
and
being
utilized
in
order
to
effectuate.
A
You
know,
for
instance,
right
now
vaccine
will
allow,
and
so
it
is
a
daily
basis
on
a
daily
basis.
That
is
one
of
the
items
that
we
have
folks
working
on,
attempting
to,
for
instance,
deduplicate
data
across
a
host
of
databases
or
registration
systems,
create
data
connections
between
disparate
systems
and
fields.
A
The
call
this
afternoon
about
working
with
some
of
the
hospital
record
systems
and
the
latest
challenges
that
we
have
with
that
and
so
really
everywhere.
You
look
within
our
within
our
response
to
this.
There
is
some
aspect
that
is
touched
by
technology,
so
yeah
look
rather
than
boar,
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions.
I
think
that
that's
you
know,
all
of
you
are
very
well
engaged
highly
up
to
date,
a
residence.
A
C
Great
thanks,
erin
questions
from
from
the
team
I'll
I'll,
give
it
out
to
the
the
members
first
and
then
I'll
I'll
follow
up
erin
with
some
any.
I
have
jackie.
D
D
I
got
a
question
from
the
public
recently
and
it's
pr
one
of
the
ones
that
we've
been
getting
sort
of
throughout
is
how
do
you
know
where
you
are
on
the
list
and
someone
sent
me
the
link
to
the
fairfax
dashboard
and
said:
why
can't
we
have
something
like
this
and
the
thing
that
they
liked
about
the
fairfax
dashboard?
D
Is
it
tells
you
how
many
are
currently
registered
and
on
the
waiting
list
and
what
time
what
date
registration
date
is
currently
being
served,
and
so
people
can
figure
out
within
a
week
when
they're
likely
to
when
they're
likely
to
get
to
that
area
of
the
list,
and
I'm
presuming
this
is
partly
using
the
new
virginia
list
base
or
combining
the
two
or
something.
D
A
Okay
understood
so
let
me
start
just
generally
with
lists
and
databases
and
information
at
the
beginning
of
the
time
when
we
were
supposed
to
be
soliciting
information
from
the
general
public
about
interest
in
vaccine
and
where
they
were
supposed
to
be
and
where
they
wanted
to
be
in
line
the
health
districts.
So
each
of
the
health
districts
within
virginia
right
work
under
the
virginia
department
of
health.
It's
a
it's
a
public
health!
That's
that's
centralized
were
essentially
not
provided
much
guidance
and
said,
go
forth
and
get
this
information.
B
A
At
the
same
time,
the
virginia
department
of
health
put
up
at
that
point.
It
was
a
just
sort
of
like
a
general
interest
tool
right.
It
wasn't
even
a
registration
tool.
B
A
And-
and
that
was
up
for
just
a
short
period
of
time
since
then,
we
have
had
no
fewer
than
three,
I
would
say,
public-facing
changes
in
the
way
that
we
take
pre-registration.
A
Right
and,
and
so
every
one
of
those,
though,
has
been
followed
by
substantive
changes
on
the
back
end.
You
know
one
of
the
primary
things
in
building
out
a
database
is
what
right
to
identify
a
primary
key
or
those
data
fields
that
are
going
to
be
unique
identifiers
for
records
within
the
database
as
as
late
as
last
week,
the
state
changed
how
they
identify
records
and
what
they
consider
to
be
primary
keys
within
the
database.
I
know
you're
thinking,
that's
crazy.
A
And
so
the
result
of
that
right
is
that
data
hasn't
grown
in
a
horizontal
fashion.
The
way
that
we
would
expect
it
right
sort
of
moving
from
a
larger
system
down
to
subsystems,
it's
actually
grown
horizontally
and
that
there
have
been
more
stovepipes
silos,
copies
of
data
and
things
just
get
mashed
together
and
put
into
one
so
right
now
what
we
are
working
with,
we
have.
A
We
in
arlington
have
worked
through
all
of
the
individuals
that
pre-registered
on
our
survey
that
we
had
been
told
to
set
up
using
a
tool
that
we
had
set
up
internally.
We
have
invited
everyone
who
was
on
that
pre-registration
list
who
is
eligible
through
the
age
category
65
and
older
16
to
64
with
underlying
health
conditions.
A
B
A
B
B
A
And
some
of
those
don't
have,
for
instance,
fields
that
match
with
character
requirements
or
any
number
of
other
things
fairfax,
because
it
is
five
times
larger
and
has
five
times
the
amount
of
funding
and
because
it
is
sort
of
the
large
public
health
division
within
the
northern
virginia
region.
A
Has
the
ability
to
push
back
in
ways
that
other
health
districts
don't
period
plain
and
simple.
They
also
have
resources
that
we
simply
don't
have
in
order
to
build
some
of
these
systems
and
they
were
able
to
successfully
convince
the
governor
that
they
were
going
to
do
go
at
it
on
their
own.
In
the
back
end,
though,
they
have
had
to
create
a
lot
of
processes
and
patches
to
reconcile
data
between
systems
and
part
of
the
reason
that
we
had
to
go
into
the
state
system
and
work
off.
E
A
Of
people
you
have
pre-registered,
which
only
makes
sense,
and
so
for
us
there
is
obviously
a
drawback
to
not
doing
that.
If
they
don't
have
data,
they
can't
allocate
you
vaccine
based
upon.
A
I
would
absolutely
love
to
be
able
to
provide
that
type
of
dashboard,
but
I
will
say
that
doing
that
requires
a
level
of
cooperation
from
the
state
that
we
have
been
unable
to
get,
and
you
know
we
frankly
don't
control
our
own
destiny
in
some
aspects
of
of
data
of
this
of
this
event,
we
become
the
end
user,
and
so
you
know
that's
where
it
is.
I
mean
that's,
that's
the.
D
A
Well,
the
state
can
tell
us,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
that
number
is
that
that
number
doesn't
mean
anything
so
I'll.
Give
you
an
example.
A
A
call
last
week-
and
they
said
you
have
2100
people
that
are
registered
as
child
care
providers
that
are
in
the
system
that
show
is
pre-registered,
and
I
asked
the
question:
have
you
verified
through
viz
the
vaccine
information
system
that
all
of
those
individuals
have
not
yet
been
vaccinated
at
another
locality
using
another
email
address
or-
and
you
know
some
other
fashion-
right,
for
instance,
going
to
pennsylvania?
I
know
people
that
have
been
to
pennsylvania
to
go
get
vaccinated.
A
The
state's
answer
was
no.
We
haven't
done
any
reconciliation
on
that,
so
we
don't
know
if
that
data
is
actually
good.
Well,
that
that's
no
good
right!
I
can't
I
can't.
I
can't
really
make
any
operational
decisions
based
on
that,
and
that
is
the
case
for
good
segment
of
some
of
their
data
right.
It's
missing,
for
example,
age
or
underlying
medical
condition.
Information.
D
Thanks,
that's
a
extensive
answer,
it's
sort
of
disappointing
because
it
makes
it
seem
like.
If,
if
we
went
on
our
own
and
had
more
resources,
then
we
would
have
been
able
to
do
it,
but
the
state
is
not
providing
the
surface
that
they,
where
they
dem
reciprocally,
where
they
demanded
that
we
go
with
them.
C
Okay,
yeah
frank:
go.
F
Ahead
thanks
thanks,
aaron
appreciate
all
the
hard
work
on
the
vaccines
I'll
pivot
to
a
different
topic,
which
you
might
find
some
relief
topic
that
we've
actually
covered
in
our
commission
for
several
years
was
firstnet
the
nationwide
public
safety
broadband
network.
But
then
this
month,
verizon
made
a
big
announcement
with
its
frontline
offering,
and
I
just
wanted
to
see
where
arlington
is
on
either
one
of
those
so.
A
Yeah
great
great
question,
so
arlington
is
the
first
net
adopter.
This
is
my
personal
device.
We
have.
You
first
asked
for
a
fair
amount
of
time
here,
both.
A
Device
with
broadband
access
for
mobile
apps
camera
trailers
license
plate
readers
actually
as
a
backup
to
a
couple
piece.
Critical
focus
functions:
the
thing
that
we
love
about
firsthand
and
the
difference
in
verizon.
Yes,
those
of
them
provide
priority
improvement
trims
both
of
them
have
their
own
steps
form.
You
can
have
your
conversations
all
day
about
whether
it's
better
to
have
a
physical
core,
a
virtual
core,
when
you
put.
B
A
Whatever
the
point
is
that
they
both
have
their
own
separate
core,
separate
routing
system
and
offer
end-to-end,
essentially
end-to-end
service,
all
handling
for
public
safety,
critical
communicates
right.
Definitely,
data,
definitely
voice
verbal.
Getting
to
the
point
where
we
can
have
a
lot
more
mission,
criticality
and
voice
to
support
radio
over
lt
things
like
that.
A
I
happen
to
know
a
couple
of
folks
on
there,
because
I
do
some
some
other
work
through
some
dhs
things
that
I
said
on
the
sltt
gcc,
which
is
a
local
government
coordinating
council.
A
That
representation
is
critically
important
because
when
my
point
of
view
wants
to
be
heard,
little
old,
arlington
county
right,
one
of
the
smallest
self-governing
units
within
the
entire
country,
doesn't
really
stand
up
to
some
of
these
bigger
cities.
Frankly,
verizon
is
going
to
answer
the
call
from
new
york
before
they're
going
to
answer
the
call
from
me,
because
that
contract
is
a
little
bit
bigger
with
local
representation
on
the
governance
board
of
firstnet.
I
essentially
have
a
shareholder
right,
I'm
not
a
shareholder
verizon.
A
They
have
little
to
no
accountability
to
me
other
than
the
fact
that
I'm
going
to
tweet
about
them,
where
they're
going
to
get
bad
pr
like
they
did
for
the
california
incident
last
year
year
before
that's.
Why
I
personally
like
firstnet,
that's
one
of
the
robust
things
and
and
the
robust
engagement
with
stakeholders
that
I
enjoy
other
than
that,
I
would
say
you
know
jack
and
his
team
have
been
great,
particularly
richard
and
rick
sternitzky,
about
assessing
apples
to
apples
and
breaking
down
for
us.
A
So
the
public
safety
can
make
an
informed
decision,
and
you
know
so
far.
It's
so
good,
oh
and
then
the
other
thing
is
the
number
of
band
14
sites
that
we've
got
up
here
through
the
roof.
Like
you
know,
a
couple
of
federal
installations
have
some,
and
they
may
or
may
not
be
abiding
by
the
fcc
guidelines
on
transmission
limits,
and
you
know
have
dialed
it
up
to
11..
So
we
get
some
pretty
good
throughput.
A
G
C
C
Great
thanks
thanks
erin
mike.
E
Thanks
aaron
I'll
I'll
start
with
empathy.
I
know
that
you're
in
a
bit
of
a
pickle
here
and
I'd
say
in
my
judgment
when,
when
our
commission
is
at
its
best,
it's
not
about
kind
of
criticizing
the
here
and
now,
but
about
anticipating.
E
So
it's
there
when
you
need
it,
and
I
have
to
say,
we've
not
been
able
to
do
that
as
well
as
I
personally
would
like,
but
in
this
instance
I
would
say,
is
I
have
electronic
medical
records
been
of
any
use
in
this
situation,
because
when
I
worked
at
the
us
department
of
health
and
human
human
services,
there
was
two
billion
dollars
of
federal
money
spent
to
subsidize
the
creation
of
electronic
medical
records.
E
E
If
somebody
had
told
me
a
year
ago
that
it
was
probably
going
to
take
a
couple
years
to
find
an
effective
vaccine
and
then
another
year
to
produce
it,
and
I
could
expect
to
get
a
vaccine
in
two
and
a
half
years,
I
probably
would
have
said:
hey,
I'm
okay
with
that,
that's
the
best
we
can
do.
The
problem
here
seems
to
be
self-inflicted
in
the
sense
that
if
you
say
to
people
we're
going
to
vaccinate
you
as
fast
as
we
can,
you
need
to
get
on
all
these
websites.
E
We're
going
to
do
this.
You
create
an
expectation
that
you
didn't
need
to
create
and
and
then
you
failed
to
meet
the
expectation
that
you,
the
government.
In
fact
created
when,
when
I
can
understand
why
a
person
in
elected
office
or
a
person
in
a
position
of
authority
would
like
to
promise
to
people
a
faster
vaccination,
that's
obvious,
but
somehow
technocrats
need
to.
You
know
whether
from
the
clinical
world
or
the
technology
world
need
to
say.
E
This
is
what's
feasible
and
for
god's
sake,
don't
get
my
customers
expecting
more
than
I
can
deliver
and
then
and
then.
Lastly,
on
the
hit
parade
I'll,
say,
I'm
a
little
surprised
by
the
criteria
themselves
and
stepping
away
from
databases.
I
would
say
the
interesting
criteria
to
me
for
prioritization
of
vaccinations
would
have
been
current
infection
rate
at
a
micro
at
a
micro,
local
level,
mobility
of
the
population
that
lives
in
that
area,
which
would
probably
track
with
their
occupations
and
their
need
to
continue
to
go
to
work
and
then,
finally,
their
household
composition.
E
So
I'm
I
don't
really
know
how
cdc
at
the
federal
level
or
the
state
came
up
with
these
particular
criteria.
But
I
think
it
would
be
relatively
easy
to
suggest
if
we
re-ran
the
models
that
we
would
have
been
better
off
with
different
criteria.
So
any
of
those
things
registering
with
you
and
are
there
any
of
them
that
the
commission
could
be
particularly
useful
to
helping
you
succeed
in
the
future.
A
Yes,
so
actually
I'll
take
I'll
take
I'll.
Take
those
in
order
I'll
try
to
be
fast.
I
can
be.
What
did
my
wife
call
me
the
other
day?
It's
essentially
not
brief,
so
anyways
on
the
emr
side.
Yes,
it
would
have
been
helpful,
except
that
from
day
one,
the
federal
government
decided
to
take
the
take
the
pandemic
playbook
and
not
exactly
follow
it.
I
can't
say
that
they
moved
it
to
the
side,
because
we
did.
A
We
did
some
things
that
we
were
supposed
to
do
out
of
that
playbook.
But
I'll
give
you
a
great
example.
On
the
operational
side,
there
is
a
pot
of
money
that
comes
from
hhs
to
a
number
of
cities
throughout
the
country
called
the
city's
readiness
initiative.
A
Those
of
you
who
have
been
in
the
washington
region
for
a
while
may
remember
the
anthrax
events
of
the
early
2000s,
one
of
the
things
that
we
developed
after
the
tokyo
subway
incident
was
the
metropolitan
medical
response
system
mmrs
and
then
the
subsequent
funding
that
supports
that
in
cri
and
what
crash
essentially
was
supposed
to
do
is
help
cities
deal
with
a
number
of
threats,
but
one
in
particular
was
how
to
operationalize
mass
prophylaxis.
A
So
it
was
built
on
a
pills
to
people
model
but
easily
adaptable
to
do
mass
facts
right
from
day
one,
despite
the
fact
that
we
had
that
at
the
federal
level,
we
chose
not
to
utilize
all
of
the
pieces
of
it
that
we
could
have
to
make
things
easier
and
one
of
those
things
was
sort
of
how
we
dealt
with
health
systems,
health
records,
hospital
systems
and
local
public
health
agencies.
A
The
other
thing
that's
been
particularly
difficult
for
us,
I
will
say,
is
the
while,
while
the
electronic
medical
medical
record
world
has
made
wonderful
advancements,
there
is
still
not
a
buy-in
from
local
elected
officials,
and
jack
can
slap
me
after
this.
If
I
say
this.
B
A
A
Is
we
our
our
primary
community
health
partner
in
virginia
hospital
center
right,
the
former
auburn
hospital
center?
A
You
know
we
have
a
wonderful
working
relationship
with
them,
but
access
the
information,
a
lot
of
bureaucratic
hurdles
in
order
to
get
over
right
in
order
to
be
able
to
share
in
order
to
be
able
to
move.
A
And
forth
the
way
that
it
needs
to
be
moved,
some
of
those
hurdles
have
been
moved
because
of
pandemic,
which
is
wonderful.
Some
of
them
still
remain
in
place,
but
I
will
tell
you:
it
is
because,
when
some
folks
look
at
a
low
frequency,
high
acuity
event
like
this,
where
we
would
need
to
have
access
to
this
information
and
an
unfettered
you
know
sort
of
an
obviously
theoretically
de-identified
way
right,
we
can
do
it
where
it's.
You
know
fairly
easy
that
way.
We
can
make
planning
out
public
health
planning
assumptions.
A
They
look
at
the
cost
and
go
it's
not
worth
it,
and
you
know.
I
think
that
that's
got
to
change.
I
think
that
that's
you
know
obviously
we're
seeing
the
attention
cycle
change
after
this
on
the
second
part,
on
the
expectancy.
Theory
yeah,
so
part
part
of
it
is
because
the
way
we
chose
to
operationalize
vaccine
distribution
has.
A
We
as
americans
love
about
amazon
is
a
just-in-time
model.
We
don't
you
know
we
are
getting,
what
comes
right
off
the
line
and
when
astrazeneca
doesn't
come
through
when
astrazeneca
fails
to
meet
the
clinical
criteria
or
have
questions
about
you
know
what
the
efficacy
or
safety
of
the
vaccine
is.
That
is
no
longer
in
the
mix
right.
We
were
banking
on
that
as
part
of
the
planning
assumption
to
be
able
to
say
this
is
where
we're
going
to
be
when
we
promise
people
where
we're
going
to
be
with
with
vaccination.
A
A
We
have
a
reasonable
expectation
that
it's
going
to
be
within
10
of
what
we
had
last
week,
but
you
know
next
week,
for
example,
it's
more
than
that,
it's
you
know,
they
tell
us
it's
starting
to
open
up,
but
there's
still
no
great
indication
of
how
much
it's
going
to
open
up.
I
mean
third
part.
The
criteria
this
is
this
is
this
is
the
difference
in
my
in
my
free
time,
I'm
a
public
health
professional.
A
I
have
a
phd
in
public
health,
it's
actually
community
health
sciences,
so
population
health
and
sort
of
these.
A
These
these
ideas
and
aspects,
the
criteria
for
which
we
decide
vaccination
priority
is
set
by
something
called
the
acip,
the
advisory
council
and
immunization
practices,
and
they
look
at
it
at
a
population
health
basis,
strictly
from
mortality
and
morbidity
and
in
a
very
classical
model
of
how
we
would
reduce
disease
at
a
population
basis,
and
so
you
know
what
sort
of
what
you're
talking
straight
up
a
seer
model
right,
this
sort
of
infected
and
reinfected,
and
what
the
susceptible
population
work
looks
like.
A
What
you
are
talking
about,
I
think,
is
the
sort
of
future
of
dynamic
modeling
of
disease
spread
and
of
threat
susceptibility
and
things
like
that.
But
it
is,
in
my
mind,
skews
itself,
then,
to
benefiting
larger
urban
communities
with
denser
populations
and
politics
placed
into
it.
So
while
the
acip
can
set
the
recommendations
because
of
our
wonderful
constitution
and
the
way
that
we
are
set,
each
governor
has
the
ability
to
make
slight
changes
in
variation
within
the
overall
framework
of
what
the
cdc
recommends
and
implements
right.
A
You've
seen
that
we've
done
it
here,
the
governor
decided
wait
a
second.
I
want
to
move
them
up,
so
he's
moved
some
of
those
groups
up
and
you've
seen
that
in
other
states
as
well
it.
It
really
is
supposed
to
be
designed
to
look
at
what,
at
the
time
we
thought
were
the
most
vulnerable
characteristics
of
a
population
age,
because
we
saw
increased
mortality
that
was
fairly
easy
to
say,
disability
and
underlying
medical
conditions.
A
We
saw
that
certain
conditions,
including
chronic
heart
conditions
from
liver,
kidney
and
chronic
respiratory
illness,
were
an
issue
as
we
learned
more
about
the
disease.
Looking
back
at
it.
I
think
we
would
have
changed
some
of
those
prioritizations
simply
because
the
you
know
we've
learned
so
much
of
the
past
three
months,
particularly
about
about
how
it
is
mutated
and
what
the
what
the
other
long-term
systemic
effects
of
the
disease
have
been
so
I'll.
Stop
there
because,
like
I
said.
C
Thanks
aaron
aaron
to
that
about
what
we've
learned
in
moving
forward.
It
sounds
like
it
really
is:
an
integrated
project
team
with
you
really
at
the
the
lead
and
then
public
health
and
then
jack's
team.
Will
there
be
an
after-action
review
really
looking
at
how
that
integrated
project
team?
You
know
what
some
of
the,
as
you
mentioned,
the
bureaucratic
hurdles
and
some
of
those
things
that
have
really
made
your
life
difficult.
A
Yeah
so
I've-
I
will
say
this
philosophically
I
I
believe
this
event
to
be
a
watershed
event
in
the
history
of
emergency
management,
public
health.
Within
our
sort
of
you
know,
recent
history,
you
know
the
the
federal
legislation
governing
emergency
management
and
sort
of
our
structure
and
how
we
respond
to
these
things
was
only
created
in
7374.
A
The
disaster
act
right,
then
came
the
stafford
act
and
it's
only
been
modified
significantly
in
the
past
20
years,
one
being
911
right:
the
creation
of
homeland
security,
the
second
being
the
post-control
emergency
management
reform
act
and
the
third
being
the
post
sandy
recovery
act.
I
do
think
that
this
third
sort
of
or
fourth
we
everyone
to
look
at
it
event
is
going
to
radically
alter
both
our
what
we
see
a
structure
and
function
of
emergency
management.
A
We
didn't
wait,
we're
not
waiting
for
the
end
of
this.
We
actually
have
a
contractor.
It's
fema
reimbursable
100,
we're
not
paying
for
it.
Your
tax
dollar,
your
federal
tax
dollars
at
work.
It
is
conducting
an
in-progress
review.
They
gave
us
the
first
set
of
that
in
progress
review,
which
I
called
the
initial
response
phase.
It
was
from
last
march,
to
about
october
november,
talk
about
ramping
up
building
systems.
Getting
through
the
initial
push
we've
received
those
results
from
them.
They
have
those
short
and
long
term
recommendations.
A
In
the
midst
of
all
of
this,
I
am
working
to
get
a
group
together
department
directors
to
talk
about
specifically
the
short-term
recommendations,
because
a
lot
of
what
we
see
now
the
same
things
that
we
saw
back
in
april
may
gin
I'll.
Give
you
some
examples
competing
priorities
within
the
public
and
within
government.
Then
we
were
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
ramp
down
services
in
order
to
be
able
to
better
serve
the
public
and
covet
response.
A
Now,
what
we're
trying
to
figure
out
is
how
do
we
ramp
back
up
services,
libraries
right
other
walk-in
services,
restaurant
services,
whatever
it
may
be,
all
of
those
things
still
require
a
county
workforce
behind
them,
but
we're
doing
it
in
a
competing
world
of
trying
to
vaccinate
for
our
community
280,
000
residents
or
whatever
we're
at
from
the
census.
This
year
you
know,
and
so
those
that
idea
of
competing
priorities.
A
We
can't
wait
until
after
the
event
to
figure
out
and
have
that
discussion,
so
we're
doing
the
in
progress
review.
I'm
very
proud
of
that.
I
think
it's
going
to
help
us
a
lot
and
it's
also
going
to
provide
good
historical
documentation
because,
honestly,
six
months
from
now
my
brain
is
going
to
be
even
more
fried
than
it
is
now
and
so
capturing
that
information
at
the
moment
is
critically
important
to
be
able
to
make
some
of
the
decisions
down.
The
road.
C
Great,
thank
you.
Well
aaron.
We
really.
We
really
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
and
as
as
mike
said,
if
there
are
some
other
things
that
you
think
of
that
the
tech
commission
can
you
know
can
assist
with.
That
would
be
really
helpful
to
us
because
we,
you
know
this
is
an
area
that
we
really
think
technology
can
is
playing
and
will
play
a
critical
role.
A
There's
a
I'll
leave
you
with
this.
There
is
a
there's,
a
theory
from
one
of
my
public
policy
classes.
I
always
forget.
I
was
I
I
like
it,
but
I
forget
what
it's
classically
called,
but
it's
the
the
kingdom
model
of
policy
streams.
I
call
it
the
trash
can
theory.
A
You
have
an
opportunity
with
the
streams
of
funding,
with
the
streams
of
attention
with
the
streams
of
politics
and
policy
oftentimes.
Our
job
is
to
push
and
pull
them
together
to
create
the
policy
window
right
now.
The
policy
window
is
so
big.
You
can
drive
a
truck
through
right.
You
can
literally
pull
a
semi
truck
through
it
things
like
reimagining,
workforce
participation
and
government
services.
A
You
know
jack
jack
called
me
one
day
I
think
was
estonia.
I
can't
remember
where
it
was,
and
you
know
they
didn't
miss
a
beat
100
all
services
online.
Every
government
service
you
need
to
access,
you
don't
have
to
you,
can't
do
it
in
person.
You
can
also
do
it
online.
He
said
look
at
this,
so
I
you
know
being
able
to
set
that
as
a
north
star
right,
we've
got
the
opportunity
to
do
it.
Second,
is
the
idea
of
distributed
workforce
right
and
distributed
assets?
A
I
am
very
keen
on
this.
I
think
we've
seen
vulnerability
from
not
only
you
know
physical
location
network
vulnerability,
whatever
it
may
be,
so.
B
A
Know
one
of
the
things
we
worked
on
with
dts's
help
has
been.
We
can
now
call
take
911
calls
and
dispatch
from
people's
houses.
It's
not
something
that
we're
going
to
do
100
of
the
time,
but
we
have
thousands
of
hours
in
and
thousands
of
calls
logged
to
date.
January
6th
happened
right.
I
needed
more
people
to
be
able
to
answer.
911
calls
it
dispatch.
A
I
was
able
to
get
people
to
get
out
of
their
chair
watching
television
log
on
and
take
911
calls
to
prepare
for
the
search,
absolutely
phenomenal
asset,
more
things
like
that
are
going
to
be
critically
important
to
us
as
we
move
forward.
The
disasters
are
more
complex,
more
costly,
more
integrated
and
so
distributing
sort
of
this
idea
of
distributing
our
assets
out
being
able
to
add
redundancy
and
resiliency
absolutely
critically
important
technology
is
the
backbone
for
doing
all
of
that.
G
You
know
ammon's
done
an
amazing
job,
you
know
watching
him
in
progress
erin
and
I
both
were
at
katrina
and
new
orleans.
We
familiar
with
what
happened
there
and
to
see
where
we
are
right.
Now
it's
been,
we've
exposed
the
digital
inequality
side
and
we
see
the
big
gaps.
This
is
a
whole
area
about
healthcare
response.
That
means
exposing
a
lot
of
things.
I
mean
in
many
ways
we're
we're
we're
piecing
together.
Things
we
think
are
going
to
make
a
difference,
but
there's
a
cultural
change,
a
change
in
the
instruction
that
has
to
take
place.
G
G
It's
because
the
organization
culture
that's
in
place
doesn't
permit
that
now,
they're
doing
it
they're
in
the
process
of
doing
it.
But
as
aaron
said,
what
happens
is
they're
all
working
in
their
own
stovepipes
and
it
was
fine
that
provision
of
health
care
service
was
fined
prior
to
march
last
year.
It's
not
fine
any
longer
and
the
integration
aaron's
talking
about
and
a
new
way
of
thinking
how
we
provide
for
services
and
naren.
I
I
watched
aaron
from
fire
and
I
mean
he's
been
whipsawed
whipsawed.
G
If
I,
if
you
find
wood
by
the
state,
but
every
day
what
he
says
is
change
the
next
day
more
than
hours,
and
so
my
hat's
off
to
air
and
we're
the
county's
very,
very
fortunate
to
have
aaron
miller
with
us.
Knowing
your
predecessors
is
there
and
I
don't
think
anyone
could
have
done
what
you've
done
so
my
hat's
off
to
aaron.
A
That
I
made
a
decision
to
come
to
erlington
I'll.
Tell
you
that
part
of
the
reason
was
because
of
the
folks
who
I
knew
I
would
work
with,
has
been
stellar,
and
so
thank.
B
A
And
look,
unfortunately,
it
is
easy
to
find
me.
So
if
you
have
questions
or
follow
up,
my
phone
number
is
floating
around
there
on
the
internet.
A
Putting
around
there
on
the
internet
as
much
as
I
try
to
give
it,
but
my
email
is
there
and
it
actually
my
desk
line
actually
thanks
to
jack
rings.
To
me
wherever
sends
me
that
fun
voicemail,
so
I'm
always
happy
to
answer
questions,
and
you
know
that's
that's
part
of
our
job.
So
thank
you
all.
C
Well,
thank
you
very
much
aaron
and
mike
I'm
assuming
that's
a
leftover
hand
or
was
there
a
follow-up
question
you
had
before
aaron
exits?
Is
that
a
an
another
question?
Okay,
all
right,
you're
you're
on
mute,
though
okay
was
that
a
follow-up
whoop
whoop
you're
still
on
mute.
Somehow
frankie
did
you
have
a
follow-up
right?
I.
F
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
I'll
try
to
keep
it
quick.
I
think
you
touched
on
it
quickly
on.
I
was
going
to
ask
about
the
emergency
operations
center.
It
sounds
like
I
was
asking
during
the
worst
part
of
the
pandemic.
You
know
staffing
and
all
it
sounds
like
you
sort
of
address
that
has
the
county
now
fully
adopted
and
implemented
the
next
generation
9-1-1,
that's
another
one
that
we've
been
sort
of
following
over
the
years.
A
Yeah
briefly,
just
being
able
to
go
virtual
has
been
big.
I
still
believe
that
we
need
a
physical
location
and
physical
presence.
There
are
some
things
that
you
have
to
have
obviously
for
continuity,
and
then
you.
B
A
There
are
emergencies,
for
example,
cyber
we
know
we're
going
to
knock
out
some
of
our
systems
and
so
having
that
physical
location,
I
think,
is
critically
necessary.
We
were
able
to
stand
that
up,
thankfully,
because
of
some
of
the
redundancies
we
have
in
other
buildings
in
space
large
enough
to
accommodate
physical
business,
which
was
nice
so
that
that
was
very
good
nextgen91.
Yes,
so
the
new
call
processing
equipment
is
in.
We
share
our
cpu
with
alexandria,
full
redundant
systems.
A
Sister
systems
that
are
able
to
switch
seamlessly
between
the
two
cad
is
next
on
the
list.
That's
our
our
goal.
We
will
be
the
fir
we're
hoping
to
be
the
first
integrated
cad
system
within
the
ncr
right
now
we
share
cad
to
cad
data
on
a
global
data
chain,
server
on
the
gdx
and
then
on
the
cabinet,
cad
exchange
server,
that's
hosted
regionally.
A
We
want
to
go
beyond
that
and
have
what
you
know.
I
call
sort
of
base
level
integration
and
we
think
we're
going
to
be
doing
that
by
sharing
with
alexandria
and
hopefully
false
church,
a
platform,
a
cad
platform
and
so
that'll
be
very
big.
And
yes,
so
we've
we're
sort
of
moving
and
preparing
all
things
to
be
able
to
ex.
Well,
we
already
accept
text,
but
video
is
next
on
the
list.
A
New
cad
will
help
us
do
that,
all
of
those
things
so
we
are
funded
for
it,
which
is
wonderful
and,
and
we
are
progressing-
and
I
think
that's
you
know
your
term.
G
You
know
one
other
thing:
I'd
like
to
write:
while
we
have
a
chance
before
everyone
leaves
a
shout
out
to
kevin
broadhurst
in
comcast,
we
had
a
need:
evan
had
a
need
to
create
for
neighborhood
health,
a
vaccine
clinic
down
at
macedonia,
baptist
church
and
and
frankly,
we
did
not
have
the
physical
plan
of
comcast
to
be
able
to
do
it,
and
I
placed
a
call
to
kevin
and
kevin
jumped
on
it
and
they
provided
a
complimentary
service
if
I'm
allowed
to
say
that
kevin
macedonia
baptist
so
that
they
could
have
that
they
could
get
internet
access
and
provide
for
the
clinic.
G
B
Yeah
jeff
we're
happy
to
do
that.
I
think
it's
just
kind
of
a
a
good
way
that
we
can
kind
of
help
support
the
vaccine
distribution.
You
know
we
want
to
get
everybody
vaccinated
and
get
back
to
life
is
somewhat
close
to
normal,
so
glad
to
do
it.
So.
Okay,
thank.
C
C
Okay,
discussion:
okay,
jackie.
D
Yes,
I
really
just
wanted
to
thank,
since
we
had
the
opportunity
to
have
both
of
them
on
the
line
at
the
same
time,
aaron
and
jack,
because
in
the
same
time
as
you
described
earlier,
the
national
process
has
had
to
be
shortcut
from
what
might
we
might
have
thought
was
going
to
be
five
years.
The
only
reason
why
it
works
is
because
arlington
and
and
not
there's
anyone
like
us,
but
is
because
arlington
also
shortcuted.
D
There
were
things
that
you
were
thinking
about
and
planning
to
do
that
I
know
had
three
and
four
year
time
frames
and
we've
seen
those
become
operational
in
a
matter
of
months.
So
to
me,
what
you
accomplished
even-
and
you
talked
about
march-
you
know
in
march
to
october,
which
wasn't
visible
to
the
public
except
in
the
product
is
phenomenal.
So
thank
you
very
much
appreciate.
C
It
and
best
of
luck,
and-
and
we
hope
that
when
you
get
some
of
those
arrows,
you
can
think
about
some
of
the
kudos.
You
got
here
all
right.
H
Yeah,
it's
just
aaron's
comments
about
the
interoperability
and
sharing
of
data
between
health
systems
to
enable
public,
health
and
emergency
response.
I
think
you
know
triggered
in
my
mind
one.
I
think
one
of
the
primary
impediments
to
that
is
the
failure
of
health,
electronic
medical
records
providers
to
develop
interoperability
in
interoperable
systems,
and
it
occurs
to
me
that
we
have
an
annual
legislative
agenda
and
that
we
might
want
to
work
on
a
proposal,
I'm
not
sure
off
the
top
of
my
head.
E
Yeah,
I
would,
I
would
definitely
support
that
john
and-
and
I
don't
know
the
intricacies
of
the
state
level,
but
we
should
definitely
try
to
leverage
these
things
and
I
would
also
say
aaron's
answer
to
that
was
more
in
the
line
of
typical
public
health
studies.
You
know
where
you'd
want
to
have
access
to
the
data,
but
you
would
agree
to
anonymize
it
because
you
don't
really
need
individual
people's
identities.
E
In
this
instance,
I
think
our
position
is
even
stronger,
because
in
this
instance
the
county
is
playing
the
role
of
a
clinician,
we're
trying
to
administer
a
vaccination
to
this
person.
So
I'll
bet
you
any
releases
that
were
signed
by
patients,
for
example,
at
virginia
hospital
center,
basically
give
virginia
hospital
center
permission
to
share
the
data
as
needed
with
other
clinicians
in
in
the
treatment
environment.
E
So
so
it's
entirely
possible
that
what
we
were
calling
the
culture
leads
people
to
be
opposed
to
sharing
data,
even
when
the
law
would
allow
it
and
they
need
to
be
told
by
their
employer
that
they
must
share
it.
So
in
this
instance,
when,
when
arlington
is
acting
as
a
clinician,
I
think
an
awful
lot
of
the
health
privacy
concerns
go
out.
The
window
other
than
arlington
has
to
take
care
of
the
data
that
they
administered
the
shot.
D
Yes,
yes,
I
I,
while
in
theory
this
sounds
good,
I
am
concerned
if
we
start
thinking
of
government
entities
as
the
same
level
of
clinical
as
a
private.
D
D
I
think
that
is
one
of
the
other
things
that
some
people
have
been
watching
with
some
concern,
because
putting
all
of
this
into
a
national
database
managed
by
the
cdc,
creates
one
of
the
most
detailed
and
personal
databases
available
to
government
to
date.
Now
it's
true,
not
everybody
registers
to
get
a
vaccine,
but
for
all
of
those
that
do
including
undocumented
people
and
everything
else.
It
gives
the
government
contacts
very,
very
high
personal
contacts,
not
a
census
which
is
anonymous,
but
personal
contacts
for
a
very
high
percentage
of
our
population
and
medical
records.
C
E
We
do
want
them
to
get
a
vaccine.
We
don't
think
that
they
would
value
us
holding
their
privacy
as
more
important
than
their
access
to
a
vaccine.
So
we're
going
to
share
with
you
the
fact
that
these
people
live
in
arlington
and
they're
over
85
years
old.
So
it's
not
a
carte
blanche
access,
it's
a
situational
access
for
the
purpose
of
health
care,
delivery
and
maintenance
of
the
shared
record.
H
I
don't
you
know
jackie,
I
don't
want
to
get
too
far
down
into
the
solution.
I
guess
what
I'm,
what
I'm
asking
is
do
do
the
commissioners
do
commissioners
feel
like
this
is
an
area
worthy
of
investing
commission.
The
limited
volunteer
resources
that
we
have
on
working
up,
working
on
drafting
a
proposal,
a
legislative
priority
proposal
to
send
to
the
to
the
county
delegation,
or
do
we
think
it's
not
feasible.
C
So
why
don't
we
john?
We
can
have
a
proposal
in
april
just
to
go
forth
right
with
that.
H
H
C
I
wanted
to
right
someone's
interested.
I
think
it's
a
good.
I
think
I
think
we
can.
I
think
we
can
find
two
or
more
to
work
on
that
and
then
see
how
how
the
rest
of
the
the
group
responds
so
lots
of
good
and
and
jack.
You
david
thanks
for
making
sure
that
we
got
to
aaron
and
were
able
to
that
was
really
helpful
david.
You
are
you
want
to
give
us
the
the
update
from
from
dts
anything
you
want
to
make
sure
we
know.
I
Yeah
sure
kind
of
dovetailing
on
what
aaron
was
talking
about
with
the
data
that
seems
to
be
our
life
right
now
is
working
with
the
data
we've
been,
I
guess,
for
lack
of
better
words,
thrashing
on
that
and
working
on
it
and
then
basically
normalizing
it
and
kind
of,
as
aaron
said
and
merging
a
lot
of
different
data
sources
together
to
be
able
to
generate
and
kind
of
get
to
one
list,
and
it's
it's.
It's
been
a
very
challenging
situation.
I
I
think
we've
made
some
really
good
headway,
as
aaron
said
on
that
data
front,
also,
as
he
said,
just
kind
of
the
you
know
a
bit
of
the
front
line,
it's
very
difficult
to
work
with
this.
As
he
indicated,
a
lot
of
the
ids
have
changed
stuff
like
that,
it's
kind
of
been
in
flux
almost
daily,
so
it
makes
it
really
challenging
for
us
to
get
to
things.
I
I
This
data
we've
gotten
pretty
creative
in
our
technical
approach
and
we're
very
thankful
for
a
lot
of
the
technical
infrastructure
that
we've
had
in
cloud
services
and
being
able
to
use
that
cloud
compute
that
we
have
with
our
partnerships
with
companies
like
aws
and
microsoft,
they've
been
very
instrumental
in
providing
those
tools
and
those
services
to
us.
So
a
lot
of
that
technology,
investment
has
come
out
in
spades
on
the
digital
side.
I
I
As
we've
mentioned
before
contact
tracing,
that's
still
there
we're
still
using
it
we're
still
developing
it
internally,
so
being
able
to
have
that
platform
access
the
investments
that
you
know
that
really
that
jack
has
put
in
place,
you
know
have
really
come
to
fruition
that
that
intentional
direction
and
cloud
services
has
been
huge.
I
can't
speak
enough
about
that.
Other
thing
touch
on.
You
know
more
yeah,
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
public
website,
we're
still
forging
ahead
on
that.
I
We
talked
a
lot
about
covet
here.
Let's
not
talk
about
covet
for
a
second,
and
the
public
website
project
continues
to
move
ahead.
We're
still
on
track
with
that
look
forward
to
opportunities
from
us
for
public
engagement.
I'll
have
more
for
information
on
that
shortly.
I
We're
going
to
be
doing
a
couple
of
exercises
too,
in
fact,
for
public
engagement
and
be
looking
for
some
feedback
from
you
all,
and
this
is
really
related
to
ui
in
in
ux.
I
What
we're
seeing
we've
got
our
first
draft
of
what
it
would
look
like,
and
I
will
tell
you
I'm
very
excited
about
it,
of
what
we're
seeing
it's
very
transformative.
The
website
will
not
look
the
same
and
behave
the
same.
It's
gonna
be
very
service
oriented
website,
so
in
other
words,
we
wanna
get
people
to
the
services
that
they
need
pay
your
bill
order,
mulch,
because
we
always
know
we
need
our
mulch
things
like
that.
I
I
So
more
to
come
on
that
future's
very
bright
on
that.
On
that
note,
I
will
turn
over
to
jack.
G
Thank
you.
Let
me
let
me
take
a
moment
to
give
a
shout
out
to
mr
hillary.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
watched
the
budget
hearings
of
the
courts
on
thursday
afternoon,
but
you
had
the
circuit
court,
the
juvenile
district
court,
the
general
district
court
all
come
up
and
talk
about
the
transformation
they
had
gone
through,
where
they
had
gone
from
traditional
practices
to
totally
virtual.
You
had
judge
rucker
sitting
in
front
of
a
surface
hub
saying
to
the
board.
G
I
want
you
to
know
this
is
the
new
surface
hub
that
I'm
working
off
of
and
you
can
see
everything
that's
taking
place
in
the
courtroom
and
the
courts
asked
a
question
they
said.
Are
you
going
to
go
back
after
the
coverts
over
and
start
doing
things
hearings
this
way
or
taking
juvenile
juveniles
and
moving
them
from
alexander
arlington?
They
said
no
way.
This
is
the
way
of
the
future.
That's
a
credit
to
david
hurley,
the
one
name
they
did
not
say
was
david
hillary.
G
He
basically
transformed
the
courts.
You
know
we
talk
about
efforts.
He
and
some
of
my
junior
staff
spent
hours
in
the
courts
room
and
I
have
to
tell
you
the
last
time
I
heard
a
judge
shout
out
a
name.
It
wasn't
in
good
shape.
It's
I'll
see
you
in
court
tomorrow
for
further
discussion,
but
david
did
that
and
he
did
that
behind
the
scenes
and
to
have
transformed
an
entire
body
of
of
people.
G
That
means
I
can
talk
to
anybody
anywhere
at
any
time
and
I
don't
have
to
leave
my
office.
So
I
wanted
to
give
a
shout
out
to
david
and
the
work
he's
done
too
often
we
don't
take
the
time
to
honor
people
and
david
did
an
unbelievable
job.
C
Okay,
well
thanks
jack
and
david.
Obviously
your
change
agent
right
culture
change.
It's
all
about
mindset
now,
so
the
crisis,
some
good
good,
positive
notes
in
that
in
terms
of
catapulting
us
forward
david.
Is
there
anything
else
right,
you're,
you're,
you're,
you're
done
with
your
report,
then,
for
now
yeah.
I
C
All
right
great,
thank
you
and
over
to
frank,
but
mike
did
you
have
a
question
before
we
moved.
E
I
did
I
did
tune
in
to
the
dts
budget
hearing,
which
I
thought
went
very
well,
and
the
recognition
of
the
potential
value
of
digital
digitization
of
county
services
was
pretty
front
and
center
there.
There
was
also
a
mention
of
the
broadband
of
digital
services
task
force,
work
as,
and
it
was
mentioned
in
the
past
tense,
and
so
every
month.
I
pretty
much
ask
about
that.
I'm
an
avid
reader
of
that
is
there
a
county,
manager's
digital
services
and
broadband
task
force
report,
and
how
does
one
get
a
chance
to
read
it.
G
G
C
Yeah
mike
what
we're
you
know
what
david
and
certainly
we've
our
target
is
in
april,
that
there
will
be
a
briefing
for
us
right
and
and
make
the
report
available
before
before
we
meet
in
april.
Okay.
So
that's
that's
my
that's.
C
That's
my
my
request
because
I
now
the
board
members
have
your
your
report,
so
it'd
be
helpful
for
us
to
have
the
and
I
I
understand
that
covet
is
going
on,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
for
us
for
the
tech
commission
to
see
both
of
them
right
so
that
we
can,
because
certainly
our
county
board
liaison
is
asking
us
what
we
think
and
it'll
be
helpful
to
to
see
both.
So
that's
the
that's
the
plan
and
I'll.
Let
you
know
if
that
is
not.
C
C
Do
you,
I
don't
know
who's
who's
who's.
Next,
jackie.
D
In
the
past,
for
these
budget
work
sessions,
you've
had
an
opportunity
to
address
the
board
related
to
questions
or
comments.
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
what
the
time
frame
was
or
is
for
that.
But
in
addition
to
the
letter
that
we
approved,
do
you
have
an
opportunity
to
speak,
or
is
that
virtual
only
I
mean
virtually
speak.
C
Right
right,
you
can,
you
can
and
we
we
can
frank,
and
I
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
it
when
we
move
down
to
seven
jackie.
But
yes-
and
there
are
some.
C
Like
to
we'd
just
like
to
flag
when
we
get
there,
no
no
problem,
john.
H
Yeah,
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
was
a
response
to
the
question
that
we
submitted
last
month
regarding
any
publicly
shareable
work
with
regards
to
the
formation
of
a
wireless
services.
Commission.
C
Yes,
good
good
question,
that's
the
and
you
were
referring
to
tim
dempsey
and
right.
H
Yeah
the
the
question
that
that
we
had
posed
at
the
end
of
that
briefing,
because
I
think
we
wanted
to
be
supportive
of
it,
but
we
didn't
want
to
get
ahead
of
county
staff
if
there
was
publicly
shareable
work
on
that,
and
I
didn't
want
to
take
tim
dempsey's
word
for
what
happened
in
various
different
conversations
that
there's
no
documentation
of.
Not
that.
I
don't
believe
him.
But
I
think
you
know
we
owed
the
manager
a
chance
to
respond
directly
to
a
question.
C
Right
and
there
have
been
some
some
more
meetings,
john,
as
you
might
might
guess,
jack
do
you?
Do
you
want
to
give
an
update
on
any
of
the
where,
where
it
stands,
I
mean
there's
been
a
couple
more
and
and
if
there
are
some
some
documentation
more
documentation
that
we
can.
G
Right,
I
know
there
was
a
meeting,
I
think
yeah,
I
think
frank
sat
on
it
yesterday
with
hillsboro
and
I
know
tim's
been
very
aggressive
to
find
out
what's
going
on
in
the
jurisdictions.
No,
but
we
don't
we
do
not.
I
mean
there's
a
number
of
discussions
going
on
within
the
county
in
terms
of
providing
for
that
wireless
strategy,
and
we
have
not
it's
not
going
to
that.
There's
no
document
no
proposal
yet
on
the
table.
H
H
G
Maybe
I
think
it's
important
to
start
laying
that
foundation
today
I
mean
we're
making
a
lot
of
progress
with
the
schools
with
this
one,
two
three
connect
me
and
what
we're
doing
wireless
there
we're
looking
at
a
number
of
various
gates
of
baltimore
and
whatever
in
terms
of
extending
digital
services
and
and
frankly,
one
of
the
things
that
I
put
forward
in
terms
of
an
innovation
is
informed
decision,
making
the
informed
decision
making
is
based
upon
a
wireless
network
that
collects
information
and
alerts.
Us
things
happen
before
they
happen.
G
Much
like
we're
doing
in
the
innovation
zone
and
clarendon
and
holly's
work.
Holly
hotel
is
working
on.
E
H
C
And
john
has
an
update
and
then
frank
if
you
want
to
weigh
in
with
what
you
attended
yesterday,
we
have
requested
from
our
county
liaison
our
board
liaison
a
discussion
about
this
as
well
so
frank
and
I'll
meet
with
him
in
you
know
just
just
to
begin
some
of
the
conversation
john
and
you're
right.
We
he
is
going
to
ask
us
for
what
our
read
is,
so
we
want
to
collect
as
much
data
as
as
we
can.
So
thanks
frank:
do
you
want
to
give
any
more.
F
Updates
yeah,
I
did
participate
in
the
meeting.
There's
extensive
participation
with
tim's
group.
Are
you
know
the
art
fiber
folks,
as
well
as
catherine
rice
from
alexandria's
commission,
was
on
lou,
michael
from
jack's
shop,
who
we've
heard
from
in
the
past,
was
on
for
the
for
the
county
and
a
very
good
conversation
with
both
a
city
official
from
hillsborough
oregon,
which
is
a
pretty
good
size.
F
Basically,
a
suburb
of
portland
oregon
to
the
to
the
west,
oregon
about
a
hundred
thousand
population
and
almost
virtually
the
same
size
as
arlington
as
far
as
the
square
footage,
so
they're
less
less
dense
than
we
are,
but
very
similar.
From
that
standpoint.
They
also
have
comcast
as
the
incumbent,
the
cable
and
wireless,
a
broadband
provider,
but
they
actually
were
a
bios
market.
F
Verizon
had
built
out
bios
there
and
then,
when
it
was
a
former
gte
system
which
became
frontier,
the
verizon
held
the
frontier
frontier,
went
through
a
little
bankruptcy,
and
it's
now
rebranded
as
ziply
in
that
market.
So
they've
got
fiber
to
the
home
from
two
well
fiber
to
home
from
ziply
and
they've
got
the
hybrid
from
comcast
there,
so
very
similar.
F
In
many
ways-
and
I
think
that
was
why
it
was
such
an
and
the
highlight-
is
actually
it's
their
their
municipal
broadband-
it
just,
I
think,
launched
in
november,
although
they've
been
working
on
for
a
few
years
very
variant
anyhow,
it
was
very
interesting
they're
charging
ten
dollars
a
month
for
eligible
households,
similar
to
the
comcast
essentials,
providing,
I
believe,
one
one
gig
service,
but
otherwise
for
other
other
users.
It's
55
a
month
for
the
one
gig
service.
They
don't
provide
video
so
they're,
not
they
don't
have
a
cable
franchise.
F
They
do
have
a
wi-fi
service
manager,
basically
provide
the
router
and
wi-fi
router
and
provide
the
wi-fi
service
for
a
five
dollar
a
month
additional
charge.
So
very
interesting.
I
know
tim,
I
think,
reported
back
on
that
meeting
and
he
you
know,
is
obviously
pushing
hard
for
a
fiber
fiber
solution
rather
than
the
wireless
solution.
H
Is
that
is
that
conversation
recorded
somewhere
where
we
can
go
watch
it
frank.
F
Yeah
I
was
going
to
mention
that
holly's
got
a
meeting
with
the
same
same
individuals
next
week
and
I
don't
know
if
there'll
be
an
opportunity.
You
know
that
will
be
recorded
or,
if
others,
but
so
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
if
it
was
recorded
or
not.
I
think
I
think
tim,
I
believe,
was
the
host.
F
C
E
Okay,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
offering
clarendon
as
a
model
for
this.
It
leaves
me
a
little
bit
nonplussed,
because
I
don't
yet
understand
what
I
would
say.
The
policy
intentions,
the
county
policy
intentions
of
the
clarendon
innovation
process
and
it
may
be
very
promising.
But
I
would
say
whenever
the
county
is
in
the
role
of
granting
private
sector
organizations
permission
to
conduct
what
might
seem
as
a
harsh
word
surveillance.
E
G
Yeah
they're
still
in
the
process,
formative
stages-
I
know
harley-
had
a
discussion
with
him.
It's
primarily
public
safety
and
they
had
a
discussion
of
use
cases
on
friday,
as
recently
as
friday,
trying
to
define
what
are
the
use
cases
that
they
they're
looking
to
be
able
to
find
and
when
they
she
can
provide
that
next
time
she
comes
back
to
a
meeting
and
provide
that
guidance.
But
what's
really
important
is
the
data
side
of
this?
G
G
From
itech,
yeah
and
and
kevin
broadhurst
from
we'll
be
sitting
on
a
panel
from
comcast
and
then
the
two
professors
that
are
being
joined
joining
with
us.
The
idea
behind
that
is
to
really
understand
what
is
is
mike.
You
say,
is:
let's
get
up
through
the
definition
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
here?
Why
is
it
important?
I
think
I
sum
it
up
by
what
dave
povlett's,
the
chief
of
the
fire
department
said
to
me.
He
said:
if
there's
any
way,
we
can
shape
time
off
response
to
me.
G
That's
that's
a
plus,
that's
a
good,
and
so
we're
trying
to
identify
what
that
means,
and
so
was
when
the
first
three
months
is.
Is
it
this?
Is
the
ideation
phase?
What
are
the
ideas?
What
can
we
do?
Nothing's
been
done,
there
hasn't
been
any
nothing's
been
mounted
on
a
poll,
nothing.
What
it
is
is
we
can.
We
continue
to
define
what
it
is
we
want
to
do
and
it's
really
important
that
we're
not
just
testing
a
technology
out
or
that
we're
letting
somebody
get
access
to
data.
G
We
haven't
seen
that
it's
really
formative
and
informative
in
terms
of
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
and
we
can
have
metrics.
We
can
look
back
at
and
say,
but
this
is
what
why
we
did
it:
here's
what
we
got
and
and
have
that
reviewed
publicly
in
a
public,
transparent
fashion.
So
I'm
certainly
holly
can
talk
more
eloquently
on
this
than
I
I
am,
but
you
know
I
think,
we're
still
in
that
phase.
Right
now,.
C
D
I
just
wanted
to
say
from
both
the
public
safety
side
and
the
group
that's
meeting.
The
main
ex
use
case
that's
been
given
is
clarendon
was
in
part
selected
because
it's
we
have
the
longest
history
of
public
safety,
information
on
nightlife,
related
incidents
and
the
restaurant
initiative
basically
was
the
police
restart
restaurant
initiative
basically
was
formed
based
on
a
better
way
to
prevent
and
mitigate
a
nightlife
day.
D
Public
safety
issues
that
we've
had
so
crowd,
management
and
response
is,
is
one
of
the
main
goals
for
this
and
how
that
affects
both
police
and
public
health
response.
So
those
were
the
that's
the
example
that
we've
been
given
and
since
I've
been
following
this
and
clearing
it
over
20
years
or
so
certainly
have.
We
have
lots
of
examples
of
where
better
better
insight
into
developing
situations
would
have
been
very
useful
and
then,
of
course,
as
residence,
the
privacy
side
and
how
that
could
be
managed
is
the
other
main
issue.
C
Okay,
thanks
jackie-
and
I
know
when
you
all
do
meet
obviously
john
will
be
able
to
you
and
john
will
be
able
to
give
us
some
some
updates
on
on
that.
I
Big
shout
out
to
you
and
frank
during
the
budget
hearing.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
support
during
that
it
was
invaluable.
Your
feedback
insight.
I
Your
comments
were
really
helpful
to
hammer
through
a
lot
of
the
points
that
that
jack
was
making
of
what
we're
working
on
the
future
of
technology
in
the
county.
So
thank
you.
So
much
really
appreciate
it.
C
F
F
But
thank
you,
but
while
we're
on
kudos,
there's
lots
of
kudos
to
go
around
tonight,
but
actually
our
own
jack
belcher,
recognized
by
government
technology
been
recognized
as
one
of
its
the
top
25
doers
dreamers
and
drivers
for
2021.
So
congratulations,
jack!
It's
well
deserved!
Well
deserved
recognition
rip
from
tonight's
headlines
here.
G
Well,
I
thank
you
for
that.
Yeah.
It's
something
I
learned
a
long
time
ago
is
when
you
surround
yourself
with
smart
people,
it
makes
it
easier
and
I've
got
smart
people
working
for
me
and
frankly,
I
said
that
to
the
board
that
night
in
the
budget
they're
good
people
and
they
they
have
a
vision
and
and
folks,
like
yourself
being
there
to
assist
us.
So
I
thank
you
all.
F
F
It's
similar
to
the
california
law
that
went
into
effect
last
year
under
the
new
law
residents
can
see
what
has
been
collected
and
correct
or
deleted,
and
it's
expected
to
take
effect
january.
1St
2023
traditional
usp
tv
subscriptions
have
dropped
by
nearly
7.2
million
in
2020
the
cord
cutting
continues,
which
is
actually
important
to
our
our
original.
Our
legacy
function
of
overseeing
the
cable
franchise.
F
F
A
letter
to
federal
bloodband
policy
officials
in
commerce,
agriculture,
the
fcc
and
the
ntia,
I
believe
I
basically
called
on
the
bible
administration
to
update
the
broadband
program
baseline
speed
requirements
to
reflect
existing
and
anticipated
uses
from
two-way
video
video
conferencing
to
smart
grids
into
ai.
So
they
are
urging
upgrading
the
broadband
speed
definition
to
100
megabits
per
second
up
and
down
across
federal
agencies
to
replace
the
current
patchwork
of
broadband
standards.
The
current
three
three
up,
25
down,
is
inadequate
to
meet
the
needs
of
most
case
households,
especially
as
5g
telehealth.
F
F
The
act
which
is
just
adopted
includes
17
billion
dollars
to
expand
broadband
infrastructure,
affordability
and
seven
billion
dollars
for
the
e-rate
program
to
support
online
learning
and
actually
congressman
clyburn
has
actually,
as
part
of
the
infrastructure
ever
is
talking
about
an
85
billion
dollar
funding
for
furthering
broadband,
build
out
across
the
country,
congresswoman
eshu
and
congressman
golden
or
congresswoman
building.
Perhaps.
G
F
Booker
they've
introduced
the
community
broadband
act,
which
would
overrule
state
override
state
laws.
Preventing
local
governments
from
operating
their
own
broadband
networks
might
be
helpful
here
in
virginia
fcc
is
proposing
a
25
million
dollar
penalty
for
legal
robocalls
using
spoof
caller
ids
that
they're
pushing
health
insurance.
Anyhow.
This
is,
I
think,
believe,
the
largest
fine
for
illegal
robocalls
issued
thus
far
by
the
fcc.
F
The
fcc
is
proposing
rules
to
improve
emergency
alerts
and
is
exploring
whether
it
is
feasible
to
deliver
the
eas
alerts
through
internet,
including
streaming
services
as
possible.
You
may,
if
they're
exploring,
you
know
they're
still
at
the
inquiry
stage,
but
to
determine
the
feasibility
of
whether
it
is
possible
to
provide
emergency
alerts
when
you're,
watching
your
netflix
or
prime.
C
F
F
Let's
see
speaking
of
inquiries,
the
fcc's
initiated
an
inquiry
to
explore
opportunities
and
potential
challenges
presented
by
open
and
virtualized
radio
access
networks,
the
open
ran
and
how
the
fcc
might
leverage
these
concepts
to
support,
network
security
and
5g
leadership.
Open
ram
promotes
use
of
open
interface
standards
that
connect
wireless
devices
to
the
core
of
the
network.
F
Just
today,
the
fcc
submitted
a
report
to
congress
that
was
mandated
by
the
rebounds
act,
that
on
the
benefits
and
feasibility
providing
public
with
access
to
911
services,
using
wi-fi
access
points
during
times
of
emergency,
when
mobile
service
is
unavailable,
the
report
concluded
that,
in
the
long
term,
wi-fi
solutions
and
other
unlicensed
spectrum
could
expand.
9-1-1
options
available
to
consumers
psaps
and
complement
the
transition
to
ip
based
nextgen
9-1-1.
F
There
are
limits
right
now
to
the
feasibility
to
unlimited
9-1-1
services
on
wi-fi,
so
the
report
does
say
that
there
needs
to
be
further
study
and
developments
before
that
would
be
feasible.
That's
all
I've
got,
but.
J
Frank,
I
was
just
going
to
comment
on
that
on
the
17
billion
you
mentioned,
10
billion
of
that
is
kind
of
no
strings
attached
money
to
states.
So
it's
kind
of
relevant
to
us
that
our
own
senator
mark
warner
is
very
involved.
The
last
minute,
basically
setting
aside
10
billion
for
that
purpose,
so
virginia's
going
to
get
a
big
fairly
blank
check
because
the
money
goes
to
treasury
to
be
distributed,
and
the
idea
is
that
states
and
localities
can
be
places.
We
can
experiment
on
ways
of
getting
access
to.
J
You
know
schools
and
health
care
via
broadband
networks.
It
appears
they
don't
actually
mention
the
word
broadband,
but
that's
the
only
thing
that
would
be
a
capital
project
that
would
allow
for
that
kind
of
access.
So
I
think
you've
got
to
be
thinking
about.
You
know
what
we
want
northern
to
do
and
what
we
want
arlington
to
do,
with
whatever
chunk
of
change
we
get
from
that,
which
is
fairly
substantial.
J
F
And
presumably
that
could
be
used
for
either
wireless
or
fixed,
even
fixed
wireless,
but
wireless
or
wireline
solutions
here.
H
Around
a
reference
to
that,
so
we
can.
We
can
get
smart
on
it
before
the
next
meeting.
J
Yeah,
it's
only
about
one
sentence
in
the
in
the
in
the
law.
It's
a
very
short!
J
So
that's
why
it's
hard
to
kind
of
tell
what
what
they're
gonna
do
with
it
and
the
treasury
has
to
come
up
with
some
regulations,
essentially
the
treasury's,
not
an
extra
agency
on
broadband.
So
it's
highly
unusual.
It's
essentially,
there
should
be
almost
like
block
grants.
States.
I
don't
know
if
they're
going.
J
To
put,
we
don't
know
yet,
if
they're
going
to
put
any
parameters
around
it,
but
we
can
certainly
send
around
frank
if
you
want
to-
or
I
could
the
sentence
from
the
law
or
something
in
the
sentence
that
allocated
10
billion
mark
warner
also
did
a
press
release
on
it.
B
C
H
C
B
C
All
right,
thank
you,
thank
you,
frank
and
all
those
in
favor.
H
C
Hi
anyone
opposed
anyone
abstain
right.
We
have
minutes
excellent,
all
right,
so
our
budget
hearing,
which
you've
heard
some
about
and
frank,
frank
and
I
were
obviously
there
virtually
there-
was
discussion
around.
Obviously
we
talked
about
cyber.
C
We
also
talked
about
the
digital
element.
There
was
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
about
that,
adding
it
to
the
master
plan.
The
county
manager
thought
that
would
be
a
huge
heavy
lift.
C
What
we
pointed
out
is
there
is
a
statute
from
richmond,
and
so
we
need
a
digital
plan,
so
we
need
to
figure
out
how
it's
going
to
be
done.
If
it's
not
the
master
plan,
then
what
so
that
discussion,
I
think,
is-
is
ongoing,
obviously,
for
jack
and
and
his
team.
I
think
it
was
a
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
recognition
of
how
much
technology
was
the
lifeblood
for
the
county.
C
Obviously,
it's
I
mean
the
county
could
only
do
business
because
jack
and
his
team
provided
the
infrastructure,
so
I
think
there's
in
any
crisis,
there's
always
these
ahas
right,
and
so
I
think
this
just
reinforced
how
much
digital
is
critical,
but
I,
but
I
also
think
that
there
needs
to
be.
We
reinforce
that
there
needs
to
be
a
real
discussion
about
the
planning
for
digital
moving
forward
and
how
to
institutionalize
that.
C
So
that
was
something
that
we
we
we
push
forward
and
and
we'll
revisit
frank
anything
else
that
you
wanted
to
wanted
to
highlight
about
that.
F
No,
no,
I
think
part
of
the
resistance
to
the
adding
it
to
the
master
plan
was,
I
think,
just
how
sort
of
painful
the
process
has
been.
I
don't
think
it
was
anything
specifically
about
digital
plan,
but
really
just
the
process.
That's
involved
in
getting
something
added
to
the
next
master
plan.
I
think
that
that
was
the
impression
I
had.
D
Comment,
yes,
because
this
commission
was
on
time
and
ahead
of
time
with
their
letter.
I
shared
that
with
epac
and
much
of
what
was
said
about
cyber
and
our
letter
is
being
echoed
in
the
epac
letter
which
we're
voting
on
tomorrow
night.
So
it
wasn't
part
of
the
presentation,
but
it
will
be
part
of
epact's
position
and
I'll
send
that
to
you
as
soon
as
we
have
it
approved.
C
Oh,
that's
great
jackie!
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
think
it's
really
because
there
was
there
was
a
moment
I'll
relay
this
and
jack
you'll.
Correct
me.
If
I'm
recalling
this
incorrectly,
when
you
were
talking
about
what
happened
at
baltimore
and
one
of
the
county
board,
members
said
well
that
can't
happen
here
because
of
what
and
jack
said
well
wait
a
minute
wait
a
minute:
let's
not,
let's
not
rest
on
our
laurels
right,
so
it
was
real.
C
I
thought
that
was
a
really
good,
aha
moment
right
to
make
sure
that
people,
and
just
because
you
know
in
many
ways
it
reminds
me
of
the
line
that
the
ibm
chairman
said.
Our
success
has
failed
us.
You
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
just
because
jack
and
his
team
have
done
such
a
good
job.
Thus
far,
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
know
everything
will
be
perfect
moving
forward.
So
I
think
that
was
jack.
That
was
a
moment
I
thought
was
really
important.
D
G
G
You
know
if
you'd
like
and
I
I
don't
mean
to
embarrass
to
be
a
gentleman,
but
I
I
know
he's
interested
in
doing
that
is
richard
johnson,
frank,
johnson
who's.
This
was
the
cio
in
baltimore.
I
actually
lived
in
silver
spring
and
he
said
if
ever
we
wanted.
You
wanted
to
talk
to
him
about
what
happened.
Oh.
G
Yeah
I
mean
he'll,
keep
it
at
a
high
level,
but
it's
interesting
to
hear
what
he
saw.
What
happened
and
what
happened
to
him
happened
to
atlanta
a
few
months
earlier
florida
so
and
yeah.
So
he
went
to
a.
It
was
a
very
tough
time
for
him,
but
he's
a
quite
a
nice
guy,
so
I've
got
his
email
and
phones.
If
you
wanted
me
to
to
invite
him
at
some
point,
I'd
be
glad
to
do
that.
C
Jack
that'd
be
great,
I
think,
for
our
may
would
be
wonderful,
john
and
then
mike.
H
And
just
wanted
to
react
to
the
the
comments
about
adding
things
to
the
comprehensive
plan
being
hard.
I
think
that's
not
a
good
reason
for
us
not
to
do
something,
and
I
think,
time
and
time
again
we
encounter
issues
in
this
commission
and
in
the
county
government
where
there
is
no
policy
framework.
H
C
H
C
K
K
E
Oh
no,
no
problem.
I
just
wanted
to
endorse
the
mature
technocratic
answer
to
the
cyber
security
risk
question,
I'm
completely
on
board
with
not
making
false
promises,
and
then
I
would
say-
and
some
of
you
may
be
aware
of
this-
I
hope
it's
true,
but
you're
certainly
welcome
to
use
this
with
the
folks
who
are
posing
these
types
of
questions
about
what
the
risk
level
is.
E
I
believe
the
baltimore
hack
specifically
was
executed
using
tools
that
were
exfiltrated
from
the
national
security
agency,
and
so,
if
nsa
was
unable
to
hang
on
to
exploitation
tools
such
that
people
couldn't
use
them
in
bad
ways
against
municipalities.
Who
are
we
to
be
protecting
our
assets?
You
know
so
those
originated
from
the
the
highest
security
location
in
the
federal
government
and
if
they
were
bested,
then
I
would
say
humility
is
a
good
posture
for
us
to
take.
C
Well
said,
mike,
you
mean.
C
C
Fatigue-
I
I
did
want
to
I-
I
know
denise
isn't
here,
but
I
did
want
to
thank
her
for
her
service
and
she's,
as
you
probably
saw
in
the
email
she's
starting,
she
started,
launched
her
new
business
and
finding
it
you
know,
as
it
is
the
new
baby.
That
requires
a
lot
of
attention,
so
we
wish
her
well
and
she
is
recommending
some
people
to
fill
that
slot.
C
So
we're
delighted
will
be
frank
and
I'll
be
interviewing
them,
and
but
we
didn't-
we
didn't
want
this
this
meeting
to
go
by
without
thanking
denise,
and
we
will
send
her
a
note
as
well,
but
just
wanted
to
to
give
her
a
shout
out.
This
is
the
night
for
shout
outs.
I
see
we're
one
minute
over,
but
I
will
I.
I
will
entertain
a
move
to
adjourn.
F
C
All
right,
frank
in
a
second.