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A
Well,
we
are
at
the
top
of
the
order
hour,
so
I'm
going
to
call
the
the
meeting
to
order.
This
is
tech,
commission
and
we
are
meeting
virtually
because
of
the
covid
crisis.
Welcome
everybody
I
just
wanted
before
we
get
started
and
welcome
our
guests.
Officially,
we
any
public
comment.
A
All
right
hearing
none,
we
want
to
officially
welcome
joe
pelton
and
inducing
it's
delightful
to
have.
You
join
us
and,
as
we
indicated
in
the
the
agenda
they're
here
to
brief
us
on
the
state,
incubator,
incubator
and
telecom
network
demonstration
systems
of
smart
city
initiatives.
A
So
we
are
we're
delighted
that
you
could
be
here
and
we
look
forward
to
to
hearing
about
the
demonstration
so
so
welcome
and
into
feel
free.
If
you'd
like
to
start
sharing.
That
would
be.
B
C
Well,
it's
interesting
to
see
what
you
and
frank
have
done
moving
forward,
and
I
do
I'm.
B
C
B
I'm
okay
yeah!
Sometimes
if
I,
if
I
don't,
have
the
control
it
doesn't
allow,
because
you
guys
are
yes.
B
A
Was
that
was
a
possib
that
you
all
were
able
to
so.
A
Right,
why
don't
we
here
and
I'm.
A
Can
let
people
in
so
let
me
do
that.
Why
don't?
Could
you
frank,
do
you
have
it?
Can
you
share
it
because
I'm
going
to
be
letting
people
in
as
we
go
back
and
forth.
A
Right
all
right:
let's,
let's
see
why
don't
we
and
I
saw
it
on
the
screen?
Why
don't.
A
No,
she
cannot
yeah
and
angela
wasn't
able
to
be
here
tonight.
So
that's
where,
let's
see-
and
I
I
want
to
get
it
onto
my
desktop-
it's
going
to
be
easier.
So,
let's
see,
but
I'm.
B
Not
a
problem,
but
what
we
are
really
going
to
talk
about
today
is
what
we
call
smart
city
testbed,
as
the
nickname
actually
formal
name
is
virginia,
is
smart
community
tesla.
It
is
located
in
stafford
county
virginia
and
we
started
in
2020
and
then,
when
pandemic
came,
then
everything
kind
of
slowed
down.
B
Yeah,
okay,
thank
you
very
much
so
so
we
started
in
2020
and
it
started
as
a
it's
very
interesting.
So
first
thing
that
we
did
that
we
had
with
the
help
of
the
commonwealth
of
virginia
entity
called.
Then
it
used
to
be
called
cit
you
most
of
you
will
know
them
by
the
name
of
cit.
B
They
have
renamed
this
year
to
the
ipc
virginia
innovation
partnership
corporation.
It
it
used
to
be
cit
and
it
was
near
dallas
airport.
If
you
drove
there,
you
saw
that
black
building
and
that's
where
they
used
to
be
now.
They
have
moved
to
richmond
virginia
so
on
the
capital
city.
So
anyway,
so
they
they
asked
us
to
really
design
a.
B
What
is
called
stafford
is
smart
town
center,
which
is
going
to
be
on
23
acres
plus
another
five
acres
which
which
a
private
developer
is
going
to
do
that,
and
that
will
be
the
new
downtown
for
a
stafford,
because
the
stafford
doesn't
have
a
downtown
or
any
town.
So
the
idea
was
to
make
it
as
smart.
B
So
we
did
the
engineering
we
designed
it,
and
then
they
asked
me
what's
the
next,
and
so
I
went
to
dave
harry
who
is
the
cto
of
vipc.
B
B
So
whatever
we
do,
there
is
all
available
to
you
all
okay,
so
we
did
that
and-
and
we
had
the
first
anniversary
on
actually
not
the
first
university
but
the
inauguration
last
year
on
may
25th
inauguration
was
delayed
because
of
the
kobe
restrictions,
and
we
have
a
first
anniversary
coming
up
on
june
8th.
So
we
really
have
in
two
years
we
have
progressed
quite
a
bit,
and
so
that
is
what
we
want
to
talk
about,
how
it
evolved.
B
What
have
we
been
doing
there
and
how
can
arlington
county
benefit
from
it,
because
everything
that
is
being
done
there
is
available
to
you
as
it
is
available
to
all
92
other
counties
right
and
when
county
come
to
participate
in
it
actually,
most
often,
most
often
at
least
for
the
pilot
project.
They
are
mostly
funded
by
vipc
or
other
partners,
but
county
per
se.
They
don't
have
to
put
any
money
in
it,
so
the
counties
are
taking
advantage
of
that.
C
Sorry
to
interrupt,
but
also
there
are
possibilities
of
federal
grants
as
well
from
homeland
security
and
and.
B
B
B
That's
what
the
testbed
is
and
then
the
fed
came
and
dhs
came
in
first
because
they
made
a
note
of
it,
and
so
actually
they
have
become
a
major
funder
of
projects
and
we'll
talk
about
some
of
the
projects
that
we
are
doing
for
dhs,
which
is
relevant
to
at
the
national
level,
not
only
at
the
county
level
in
virginia,
so
that's
happening,
and
since
then,
so
what
we
have
now
we
have
the
federal
government
in
it.
B
B
B
B
Who
are
some
of
the
key
sponsors
we'll
share
quickly
with
you,
what
we
accomplished
in
the
first
phase,
which
is
fundamentally
2020
to
2021
and
then
what
we
are
doing
now
in
what
I
call
phase
two,
which
is
22
20
22
to
2023
and
we'll
you
know
joe,
and
I
have
some
ideas
as
to
how
I
really
think
arlington
can
benefit.
Let
me
put
a
personal
note
there.
I
know
arlington
because
of
joe
and
because
I
have
been
there
and
I
have
worked
with
on
multiple
occasions.
B
I
had
the
opportunity
with
with
jack.
I
have
to
tell
you
that
early
in
time
among
the
counties-
and
now
this
is
me
from
the
private
sector
point
of
view
arlington
is-
is
a
flagship
county.
When
it's
come
to
technology,
applications
and
adoption,
you
are
much
ahead,
then
I
will
say,
I
venture
out
to
say
most
countries
in
the
commonwealth
even
maryland
to
a
large
extent.
So
you
are
very
innovative,
maybe
because
the
you
know
the
per
capita
there
is
various
smart
people
living
in
arlington.
B
Maybe
that
is
the
reason,
but
I
live
in
fairfax
so
but
I
I
think
so
you
are
advanced,
but
that
doesn't
mean
you
cannot
benefit
from
what
we
are
doing,
because
for
a
couple
of
reasons
one
is
the
technologies
are
changing
rapidly,
and
second
thing
is
that
technological
risks
have
really
grown
so
more.
You
adopt
technology
today,
more
you
expose
yourself
to
to
the
risk
and
those
risks
have
to
be
managed.
B
So
that's
what
the
testbed
is
all
about,
and
so
we'll
talk
about
that
so
I'll
go
to
the
next
slide
and
quickly
explain
to
you
what
our
concept
is.
I
think
mary's
on
mute.
So
maybe
she
will
advance
the
slide.
A
All
right,
let
me
let
people
in
and
then
see
it
didn't,
move.
Okay,
let's
try
again,
then.
I
B
B
Okay,
all
right,
so
that's
a
and-
and
you
can
see
the
slides
right.
Yes,
okay,
that's
perfect,
then
so
I'm
going
to
so
the
virginia
smart
community
test
with
the
concept.
So
you
see
a
box
in
the
left.
You
see
the
box
on
the
right.
The
left
side
is
basically.
This
is
how
we
the
test
where
things
are
done
in
the
test
bed.
So
we
have
a
smart
city
ecosystem
where,
fundamentally,
we
define
the
components
of
it.
B
What
are
the
things
that
we
want
to
do
and
then
we
go
to
the
next
phase,
which
is
technology
and
security,
selecting
those
technology
and
looking
at
the
the
security
aspect
of
it,
iot
security
fundamentally
to
a
large
extent,
and
and
then
we
really
developed
the
the
pilot
projects
in
the
test
bed,
which
is
proof
of
concept
and
and
then
that
leads
to
particular
solution
right,
yes
or
no,
is
it
useful?
It
is
implementable?
B
Is
it
the
right
thing?
How
do
you
implement
it?
How
do
you
use
it,
and,
and
then
we
draw
the
lessons
learned
and
that's
how
the
county
can
really
benefit
from
it?
So,
for
example,
we
take
and
take
5g
we
can
take
iot
in
the
flood
sensors.
We
can
take
fire
sensors,
environmental,
any
a
lot
of
sensors
nowadays
that
we
use
right.
All
of
these
projects
are
going
on
drones
and
and
then
we
can
really
run
the
develop.
B
The
use
case
do
the
proof
of
concept
which
is
pilot
project
and
then
go
to
implementation.
The
right
side.
What
you
see
is
our
collaborative
framework
because
from
day
one
I
designed
this
to
be
public
private
partnership
right
because
that's
what
the
benefits
are.
This
is
the
unique
thing
in
today's
technological
environment.
If
you
want
to
manage
the
risk-
and
you
want
to
get
the
roi
return
on
investment
in
technology.
B
In
my
viewpoint,
it
has
to
be
public
private
partnership,
because
the
innovation
and
technologies
are
coming
from
the
private
sector
and
ultimate
beneficiary
is
the
community.
And
if
we,
when
you
put
that
together,
that's
what
we
have
done
in
the
testbed.
So
what
you
see
is
exactly
what
I
said
here
is
an
integrated
view
of
what
the
testbed
actually
looks
like
in
in
a
not
in
a
metaverse,
but
in
the
real
world.
B
Those
are
the
tools
and
and
the
technologies
the
key
key
stakeholders
are
the
main
stakeholders
so
that
I
left
the
word
cit
there
that
should
be
vipc.
The
new
name,
stafford
county,
you
know
and
and
major
contributors
are
really
again
vipc
stafford
county
ost,
which
is
a
corporate
partner,
dhs
verizon,
cisco.
This
is
to
name
a
few
okay.
B
We
look
at
the
needs
of
the
community
in
the
counties
in
the
public
sector
in
the
government
and
and
develop
solutions,
and
so
what
you
see
in
the
middle,
with
the
blue
mark
there
on
the
right
hand,
side
you
have
a
list
of
these
are
selected
partners
who
are
participating.
B
They
bring
their
technology,
we
develop
the
pilot
with
them,
and
then
we
develop
the
solutions
with
them.
B
Okay
and
and
then
you
have
the
stafford
county,
which
has
really
given
us
the
facility
and
and
and
they
have
already
implemented
some
of
the
projects
that
we
talked
about
so
so
that
is,
that
is
the
approach,
and
this
is
the
integrated
view
of
the
testbed
I'll
go
to
slide
number
five
and
let's
talk
about
value,
because
the
end
of
end
of
the
day,
with
arlington
county
point
of
view
or
stafford
county
point
of
view,
because
you
are
the
end
user.
B
What
value
does
the
testbed
bring
to
you?
So
what
we
did
we
selected
the
areas
where
we
believe
are
the
burning
issues.
This
is
where
we
need
to
be
able
to
use
this
technology
to
solve
the
problems
so,
for
example,
public
safety,
public
safety
is
a
big
area
and
it's
changing
now
with
the
new
technology,
for
example,
one
technology
that
we
selected
is
the
drones
and
drones
are
making
a
big
difference
in
public
safety
and
emergency
management.
B
So
we
developed
a
pilot
project
in
the
first
year
and
we
did
the
pilot
working
with
the
public
safety
department
of
the
stafford
county
and
they
were
very
happy
now
we're
going
to
the
implementation
phase,
iot
security.
So
what
is
happening?
You
know
if
you
read
the
gartner
report
or
cisco
report
on
iot,
the
number
of
iot
devices
are
growing
right
and,
and
so
what
is
happening
with
their
estimates
are
the
we're
close
to
about
50
billion
iot
devices
worldwide
and
is
growing
15
to
20
per
year.
B
That
is
not
manageable
and
the
risks
are
very
high,
because
cyber
risk,
as
you
know,
very
high
and
iot
devices-
are
all
vulnerable
to
that.
So
iot
security
is
one
of
the
key
things
that
we
are
doing
in
the
tesla
dhs
came
to
us
and
they
have
given
us
a
contract
to
really
look
at
iot
security
issues
actually
iot,
as
well
as
ics
industrial
control
system.
So
we're
looking
at
that.
That
report
is
coming
out
very
soon,
which
will
be
shared
by
all
the
counties
and
all
the
government
agencies.
B
We
are
also
developing
a
another
report
for
dhs,
which
is
what
is
called
the
best
practices
for
procurement.
So
they
have
asked
us
to
develop
the
iot
best
practices
that
is
going
to
go
to
all
procurement
officers
in
the
federal
agencies.
So
when
they
issue
the
rfp
or
when
their
team
does
the
evaluation,
they
have
what
we,
what
we're,
calling
it
iot
security
playbook,
and
so
it
will
be
available.
So
there
will
be
multiple
and
then
come
july.
B
We're
going
to
be
going
into
phase
two,
which
is
going
to
go
into
more
technical
architecture
and
new
reference
model
and
all
those
things,
because
what
you
have
iot
and
ics
are
merging
the
scada
systems
and
all
those
things,
and
that
convergence
is
creating
a
new
approach
to
managing
in
the
security.
B
So
we're
working
on
that
other
new
technology
are
looking
at
in
related
to
smart
health,
for
example,
we
have
projects
that
will
launch,
we
have
launched
with
verizon
called
smart
health
and
connected
ambulance
where
we're
bringing
in
5g
into
it,
we're
bringing
in
telehealth
into
it
and,
and
so
a
lot
of
his
stuff
is
really
in
the
we're
making
ambulance
real
time,
intelligent
with
using
artificial
intelligence
and
mr
ml.
B
All
of
those
things
in
that
to
taking
the
healthcare
to
the
next
level
and
and
so
that's
another
area
where
it's
a
tremendous
value
to
the
community
and
one
area,
perhaps
will
interest
arlington,
intelligent
traffic
management.
Of
course,
what
is
the
biggest
problem
where
we
live
in
northern
virginia,
the
traffic
management,
and
so
there
is
a
lot
of
interest
both
for
the
federal
government
agencies,
vdot
and
the
state
government
and
the
counties
as
to
how
we
can
really
go
into.
B
You
know
migrating
from
a
current
estate
to
what
we
call
intelligent
traffic
management,
which
is
largely
going
to
be
driven
by
artificial
intelligence
and
machine
learning,
and,
and
so
there
are
projects
in
that
area
and
then
we're
looking
at
smart
community
projects
like
this
smart
health,
the
smartest
school.
You
know
those
projects
are
also
evolving
with
multiple
partners.
Okay,
so
that's
that's
where
we
see
the
value,
so
so
what
I
want
to
conclude
here
in
in
terms
of
really
conveying
one
key
message
related
to
the
value.
B
C
B
B
The
public
private
partnership
has
grown
much
bigger,
so
we
started
with
few,
and
now
we
have
22
private
partners.
We
have
three
federal
agencies
in
it
and
there
are
more
coming
so
dhs
is
there
nasa
is
coming.
Navy
is
already
there
and
dod
fbi
marine
corps
and
few
others.
B
We
have
received
key
commitments
from
major
technology
partners,
the
verizon,
so
the
verizon,
for
example.
We
are
the
first
county
or
city
in
the
nation
where
there
is
a
5g
testbed
and
the
verizon
put
their
5g
testbed
in
that.
So
we
are
doing
some
very
interesting
things
with
that.
That
will
be
another
area
of
interest
to
to
arlington
county
and
you
folks
and
jack.
B
We
you
know
we
we,
we
are
also
very
close
to
cisco,
who
is
going
to
bring
in
a
lot
of
things
in
in
cyber
security
area,
so
that
is
also
happening.
They
are
also
a
major
partner.
So
what
we
call
platinum
partners
so
verizon
cisco?
These
are
companies,
they
have
a
lot
to
offer,
but
they
are
their
platinum
partners.
B
The
initial
focus
has
been
on
public
safety.
It
has
been
on
iot
security,
so
public
safety
we
already
talked
about.
We
did
the
drone
pilot
project
now
we're
going
to
the
second
phase
and
and
then
we
did
what
is
called
the
biggest
technology
today.
That
is
much
talked
about
and
federal
government
is
pushing
for
it.
B
Since
president
biden
came
to
the
white
house
and
he
showed
an
executive
order
on
implementation
of
what
is
called
zero
trust
system
for
cyber
solutions,
and
so
we
did
the
first
pilot
project
on
a
zero
trust,
brought
in
a
company
called
enclave
and
did
their
tested
their
system,
and-
and
it
was
so
successful
that
the
stafford
county
came-
and
they
said
we'd
like
this
implemented
on
our
network,
and
this
is
another
thing
that
I
think
the
jack
will
be
very
interested
in.
He
understands
the
value
of
zero
trust
and
zero
trust.
B
Right
now
is
much
talked
about
solution
for
cyber
security,
so
we
ran
that
pilot.
We
implemented
it
now.
A
staffer
count
is
looking
to
expand
the
implementation
of
zero
trust
for
the
water
system,
the
sewer
system
and
traffic
management,
all
those
things.
So
it
has
applications
in
everything.
So
that
was
a
very
successful
pilot
project
and
then
we
launched
the
iot
security
pilot
project
also,
so
that
is
going
on
and
then
we
had
the
in
the
first
inauguration
on
the
25th
of
may
last
year.
B
So
you
know
this
was
so
to
summarize
the
accomplishments
of
the
first
two
years,
even
though
we
were
fighting
pandemic,
we
built
the
partnership
public
private
partnership,
strong
bay,
made
it
a
kind
of
national
test
bed
because
you
have
federal
estate
and
local
government
in
it
and
the
private
sector
coming
in
it.
We
chose
the
key
technology
and
developed
the
proofs
of
concept,
and
not
only
that
we
met
our
objective
of
developing
the
solutions
and
then
implementing
it
in
the
real
life,
and
now
other
countries
are
looking
to
do
the
same
thing.
B
B
The
deputy
assistant
secretary
of
dhs
about
three
months
ago
and,
and
he
said,
hindu
okay,
this
is
this-
is
very
impressive.
What
has
been
done?
We
are
delighted
to
be
a
partner
in
this,
and
particularly
it's
a
great
deal
of
interest
to
us,
because
you
have
a
state
and
local
government
participating
in
along
with
the
private
corporation.
B
This
is
the
model
that
we
want.
Can
this
be
scaled
at
the
national
level?
And
so
you
give
us
the
challenge,
and
so
just
not
to
talk
too
much
about
that,
because
I
can't
talk
too
much
it's
ongoing
right
now,
but
I
developed
a
concept
of
what
is
called
so
the
the
stafford
testbed
is
going
to
become
the
national
testbed,
and
then
we
are
building
innovation
hubs
across
the
country.
B
I
do
go
there
fishing
every
year,
I'm
going
in
august
again,
so
I
developed
the
concept
of
innovation
hub.
That
is
really
based
on
two
principles:
okay,
one
is,
it
has
to
be
geographically
centric.
B
Okay
and
the
secondly,
it
has
to
be
demographically,
centric,
okay,
for
two
reasons
and-
and
you
folks
can
relate
to
this-
because
arlington
has
talked
about
this
before
and
I
participated
in
some
of
the
seminars.
The
digital
equity
is
a
big
issue.
Now,
okay,
as
a
society,
we
do
have
to
look
at
that,
because
the
new
technologies.
B
But
let
me
put
it
this
way:
the
digital,
the
digitally
divided
society
is
emerging,
and
unless
we
really
pay
attention
to
it,
it's
going
to
be
a
major
issue,
in
my
viewpoint,
in
economic
sense
and
political
sense
as
well.
So
keeping
that
in
mind
the
alaska
is
going
to
be
we're
going
to
be
doing
things
there
developing
solutions
that
is
really
going
to
be
focused
on
the
alaska
native
community.
B
There
are
272
federally
recognized
native
american
communities
in
alaska.
They
are
about
15
of
alaska's
population.
I
go
there,
I
travel
across
alaska.
I
can
tell
you
that
those
most
of
those
communities
look
like
third
world,
okay
and-
and
so
I
brought
in
a
company
called
cave
fox,
which
is
owned
by
the
tribes
from
catch.
A
camp
brought
them
as
a
partner
and
and
we're
going
to
be
federal
government
get
them
9
million
dollars
to
build
a
new
building
and
technology
center.
B
B
It
will
be
based
in
greensboro,
north
carolina
brought
in
the
underserved
african-american
community
and
the
native
mainland
native
indian
community,
and
put
them
together
and
will
be
doing
exactly
the
same
thing
that
we're
we're
doing
going
to
be
doing
catch
a
cat
again,
their
focus
is
first,
one
is
going
to
be
a
smart
health
and
connected
ambulance
brought
in
a
local
hospital.
A
service
provider
called
atrium.
B
I'm
almost
there
okay
and
then
the
third
one
is
going
to
be
hoboken
new
jersey,
because
this
center
is
going
to
be
what
is
called
the
urban
center
because
more
than
50
of
the
populists
and
living
in
urban
areas,
their
needs
are
very
different
and
their
issues
are
very
different.
So
that's
where
we
focus
on
that
two,
more
things
that
we
just
introduced
and
and
and
that's
going
to
be
inaugurated
on
the
8th.
B
We
introduced
stock
as
a
service
to
the
cyber
security
operations
center
and
also
quantum
computing,
and
we
are
going
to
be
the
first
in
the
country
to
integrate
quantum
for
cyber
security
through
the
salt.
So
that's
a
flagship
project,
that's
my
main
project.
Now
so
and
and
then
the
federal
and
the
state
government
coming
in.
So
so
the
la
we'll
go
to
last
slide
now,
which
is
how
arlington
county
can
benefit.
B
So
we
invite
arlington
county
and
you
all
to
participate
in
the
pilot
projects
that
is
relevant
to
you
and
to
arlington
county
either.
We
can
come
up
with
the
idea,
give
you
that
or
you
can
come
up
with
the
idea.
We
can
work
on
that.
Second,
what
is
it
possibly
arlington?
Might
you
know
some
of
the
things
we
can
do
with
the
drones
area
drawn
for
public
safety
and
security?
B
You
know
iot
security.
It
can
be
telehealth
telemedicine,
all
of
those
things
smart
parking.
All
these
areas
are
really
poised
for
collaboration
between
arlington
county
and
the
testbed,
we'll
be
happy
to
work
with
ite.
I
you
know
itac
and
also
arlington
dts,
to
identify
you
know.
Key
pilot
projects,
like
I
said
you
guys,
can
come
up
with
the
ideas,
so
we
can
together
develop
that
what's
the
ultimate
benefit
ultimate
benefit
is
as
a
as
a
nation
as
a
county
as
a
city,
we're
all
heading
toward
the
same
direction.
B
What
we
call
digital
transformation
right
and-
and
I
think
the
digital
transformation
is
a
key-
is
going
to
happen-
is
happening,
but
we
have
to
make
make
a
note
of
that
recently.
I
spoke
at
the
air
force
a
conference
in
dayton,
and
this
is
the
last
thing
I
want
to
say
joe,
that
it
was
our
digital
transformation
because
the
the
dod
has
taken
the
lead,
and
they
asked
me
to
really.
B
You
know
provide
some
thought
leadership
on,
so
I
see
two
two
things
happening
in
the
nation,
digital
transformation
and
cultural
transformation
and-
and
I
think
we
will
miss
the
board.
That
was
my
main
message.
If
we
miss
the
book,
we'll
miss
the
board,
if
we
just
focus
on
digital
transformation,
which
is
technology
driven
and
ignore
the
cultural
transformation,
because
these
are
both
independent
forces
and
at
times
they
collide
and
when
they
collide.
B
That's
when
you
have
the
digital
equity
or
iniquity
issues
evolving,
so
digital
migration
has
to
be
in
a
planned
way
and
and
the
testbed
can
contribute
to
this.
So
that's
the
approach,
so
I'm
going
to
stop
there
on
slide,
8
and
use
my
last
slide,
which
is
really
thank
you
and
happy
to
answer.
Questions.
C
So
mary,
can
I
just
make
one
comment.
I
know
that
a
few
years
back,
we
really
had
some
major
concerns
about
the
security
of
the
scada
system
and
the
fact
that
various
different
agencies
had
different
levels
of
of
security
on
the
water
systems
and
other
systems
the
county
was
using.
I
do
think
that
it
would
be
good
to
have
a
update
on
where
the
security
systems
are
and
whether
there's
switching
off
of
scada
to
iot
systems
and
whether
that
might
be
an
area
that
could
be
looked
at.
A
And
richard
is
with
us
from
dts
county
staff,
so
richard
do
you
want
to
comment
on
scada
assessment?
So
joe
is.
G
You
can
pose
any
questions
you
like,
but
I'm
I'm
walking
a
fine
line
here.
In
my
response,
I
will
not
speak
about
operational
security
in
recorded
public
meetings.
G
Okay,
so
in
this
type
of
forum,
it's
not
an
appropriate
place
to
discuss
what
we're
doing
in
various
parts
of
our
operational
technologies,
but
if
the
board
is
interested,
I
can
do
sessions
with
the
board
privately,
where
I
can
get
into
very
detailed
conversations
about
these
topics.
A
Thank
you
good
indie,
thank
you
and
I'm
I'm
sure
there.
If
you
all,
wouldn't
mind
staying
for
a
couple
questions,
I'm
sure
that
our
our
team,
full
complement
team
has
some.
So
I
will
open
it
up
to
to
the
commission
members
who
who
has
who
has
a
question.
B
B
Obviously
you
know
I
I
want
to
make
sure
it's
clear
that
I'm
not
trying
to
sell
anything
here,
okay,
because
of
my
relationship
with
joe
and
jack
long-term
relationship,
because
I'm
so
impressed
by
the
advancement
in
terms
of
infrastructure,
the
investment
that
arlington
has
made.
You
are
poised
to
go
to
the
next
level.
You
will
be
the
leader
among
the
counties
in
virginia
for
digital
transformation,
and
you
should
be
so.
B
B
Second
thing
is
that
the
best
part
is
at
no
cost
to
you,
because
I
will
make
in
some
cases
dhs
in
some
cases
you
know
vipc
the
commonwealth
of
virginia
pay
for
at
least
the
pilot,
not
the
implementation.
Implementation
will
be
your
your
job
for
the
pilot
and
and
so,
and
I
have
shared
this
with
with
david
erie
cto
of
vipc.
He
knows
that
I'm
making
this
presentation,
so
you
know
he's
committed
we're
partners
and
I'm
there
to
help.
B
B
Do
I
want
to
see
the
digital
that
arlington
continues
to
benefit
in
terms
of
where
the
commonwealth
is
investing,
where
the
federal
government
is
investing
and
take
advantage
of
that.
J
Okay,
thank
you.
In
the
past,
we
talked
about
partnering,
doing
something
special
with
health
care
has
any
what's
happened
with
that.
B
K
Yeah,
just
I
guess
first
reaction,
I
think
something
like
this
and
it
seems
like
this
is
the
only
something
like
this
is
something
that
would
be
appropriate
to
include
in
a
digital
plan.
So
one
of
the
things
that
the
digital
plan
we've
been
advocating
for
should
include
is
methods
for
testing,
and
you
know,
prior
to
implementation.
We
certainly
have
some
testing
that
we've
been
doing
here
and
there
have
been
issues
with
that.
So
this
is
another
way
of
doing
testing
without
it
being
in
a
specific
location
in
arlington.
K
That
would,
I
think,
be
advantageous,
particularly
for
something
that's
going
to
be
of
concern
to
the
community
like
drones,
for
example.
So
if
you
have
a
use
case,
that's
well
established
and
tested
somewhere
else
that
you
can
refer
citizens
to.
I
think
that
would
be
an
advantage
as
part
of
your
digital
planning.
B
A
L
Thanks,
I
just
scanned
through
the
the
report
that
you
put
out
on
xero
trust
systems
pilot.
I
think
xero
trust
in
cyber
is
always
job
zero
when
it
comes
to
an
it
shop.
So
I'm
just
curious
from
a
process.
Standpoint
did
stafford,
select
or
evaluate
different
options
for
the
component.
That's
referred
to
as
the
enclave
blockchain,
which
seems
to
be.
It
was
a
proprietary
product
that
enables
the
xero
trusts
network,
or
how
did
that
is?
B
B
It's
me
a
a
cit
cto
david
erie,
I'm
the
stafford
county
cto,
that's
mike
cannon
and
and
john
holden,
who
is
the
director
of
economic
development,
and
so
fundamentally,
I'm
the
I'm,
the
guy
who
developed
the
use
cases,
I'm
the
one
who
brings
the
partners,
the
technology.
I
go
to
the
executive
committee
and
say
here
are
the
five
things
on
the
table.
Tell
us
which
one
you
like
to
do,
and
the
executive
committee
selects
those
zero
trust,
because
there
is
so
much
focus
on
zero
trust
that
it
was.
B
It
was
really,
you
know
they
grabbed
it.
Okay
and
they
said,
let's
run
this
pilot
and
you
know
mike
cannon
said
okay,
so
here
was
the
the
problem
right
before
that
the
national
guard
came
and
did
the
security
security
audit
of
the
stafford
county
and
and
they
found
gaps.
L
I
Yeah
the
question
for
hindu
and
joe
trying
to
increase
the
level
of
specificity
just
a
little
bit.
What
single
very
concrete
project
comes
to
mind.
It
would
be
an
ideal
application
to
benefit
arlingtonians
that
might
might
be
asked
of
the
stafford.
Testbed
comes
to
mind.
Can
you
think
of
anything?
That's
that's
compelling.
C
F
C
Well
I'll
start,
I
do
think
that
the
security
upgrade
might
be
a
good
place
to
start
that,
as
I
say,
there
was
a
problem
with
the
scada
system
being
distributed
among
many
departments
and
so
on,
and
so
that
might
be
one
issue
just
to
see
where
we
are
in
terms
of
security,
whether
there's
an
iot
based
system
that
could
be
or
should
be
implemented.
Or
what
have
you
is
one
area
when
we
met
with
jack
a
few
years
back,
we
were
talking
about
certain
communities
in
the
arlington.
C
You
know
area
that
had
special
needs
and
so
on,
and
that
several
of
those
had
been
identified
by
jack
and
by
others
that
again,
sometimes
it's
best
to
go
to
the
community
and
say
hey
here
are
some
new
capabilities,
which
one
do
you
think
would
help
your
community
rather
than
going
to
the
community
and
saying
here's,
here's
what
we're
going
to
do
for
you.
C
One
thing,
while
I
have
the
floor,
is
that
I
think
that
if
there
were
interest
of
members
of
the
I.t
advisory
group
to
go
and
see
the
test
bed
that
that
could
be
arranged
with
into
yes
field.
A
A
Well,
thank
you.
Obviously
we
we
went,
we
went
over
the
time.
I
appreciate
you
all
staying
with
us
and
you've,
given
us
food
for
thought,
and
we
have
the
you
don't
mind.
We
circulate
the
deck
yeah.
C
D
A
All
right,
we
will
do
that
and
then
and
then
we
will.
We
will
loop
back
as
after
we've
had
an
opportunity
to
to
think
about
what
you've,
what
you've
briefed
us
on.
A
A
All
right
getting
back
to
the
getting
back
to
the
the
next
on
the
agenda.
John,
do
you
have
a
safety
innovation
zone,
update.
L
So
I've
got
a
verbal
update,
which
is
that
we're
still
waiting
on
confirmation
about
the
path
forward
for
our
relationship
with
the
safety
and
innovation
zone
project
we
met
last
week
or
the
week
before.
I
can't
tell
because
time
is
a
flat
circle.
L
And
and
with
the
we
had,
we
had
provided
sharon
and
I
had
provided
a
version
of
the
report
that
we
felt
comfortable,
supporting
to
try
and
eliminate
any
concern
about
any
recommendations
that
would
be
viewed
as
controversial
that
the
county
wouldn't
support.
I
think
the
county's
position
was
essentially
that
the
the
product
is
a
staff
product
and
so
not
really
appropriate
for
board
quote-unquote
approval.
We
agreed
that
it
would
be
great
if
they
could
come
and
present
the
report
to
us
for
our
official
feedback.
L
There
was
some
concern
about
whether
that
could
be
done
in
a
way
that
wouldn't
make
the
report
public,
because
they're
not
sure
when
or
whether
the
report
is
going
to
be
made
public,
and
I
I
reminded
them
that
we
do
have
a.
We
are
subject
to
open
meeting
laws,
and
so
I
didn't
know
that
they
could
share
the
report
with
that
with
us
without
also
making
it
public.
So
that's
where
we're
at.
I
got
a
note
from
from
holly.
I
asked
if
we
could
find
or
sorry
from
jamie
asked.
L
We
could,
if
we
could
know
whether
that
was
gonna
be
possible
by
tonight
and
and
she
indicated
that
she
wasn't
able
to
get
on
people's
calendars
until
this
friday,
so
still
pending
a
decision
on
that.
I
think
all
of
the
recommendations
that
are
in
the
report.
H
L
We're
not
able
to
see
the
report
publicly
in
the
near
future
by
the
next
meeting
would
be
things
that
I
could
draft
and
provide
as
a
letter
from
the
tech
commission
as
policy
advice
to
the
board
independent
of
the
of
the
report,
and
I
think
sharon,
and
I
also
have
some
other
lessons
learned
that
are
above
and
beyond
privacy
that
we
would
want
to
to
include
in
our
policy
recommendations
as
a
result
of
this
project.
So
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
right
now.
A
Great
thanks
so
much
john
legislative
update,
frank.
E
Right-
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
john's
report
on
sis-
I
did
actually
sit
in
on
that
meeting
last
week
and
they,
I
think
they
wanted
to
make
perhaps
two
presentations
to
us
first
sort
of
a
context
of
where,
where
the
pilot
is
and
also
then
on
the
report
itself.
Secondly,
assuming
approvals,
you
know
had
been
obtained
from
the
county
manager
for
for
both
so
and-
and
I
think
there
still
seems
to
be-
you
know
that
the
report
would
be
shared.
E
E
L
Yeah,
I
mean
all
their
public
statements
and,
in
fact,
the
statements
that
that
were
on
these
amazon,
our
liaison
member
karen
tonis,
specifically
said
we'll
be
getting
or
we
should
be
getting
a
report
soon
on.
So
that's
my
read
of
their
expectations
so.
D
G
G
You
know
what
what
the
contours
around
this
decision
are,
and
it
really
is
that
the
report
and
the
advice
has
all
been
on
the
manager's
side
of
the
house,
and
this
group
is
on
the
board
side
of
the
house,
and
so
there
is
that
you
know
intentional
firewall
between
the
two
sides
and
we're
navigating
how
we
proceed
without
kind
of
breaking
our
rules
about
how
one
side
speaks
and
interacts
with
the
other.
So
there
are
intentional
conversations
happening
around
this
just
to
determine
what
the
best
pathway
forward
is,
but
it
isn't.
G
It
isn't
a
typical
situation.
We
see
as
far
as
how
we
have
people
on
a
board
constituted
group
working
on
a
manager
constituted
project.
If
that
makes
sense,
and
so
you
know
we're
navigating
it
and
we
hope
to
know
more
soon,.
H
John,
I
guess
two
comments
now
in
response
to
what
was
just
said,
I'll
say
from
a
citizen's
point
of
view,
I'm
sure
there's
an
expectation
that
the
board
and
the
manager
will
figure
it
out
in
a
way
that
is
beneficial
to
the
citizens
and
not
such
a
I'd
say
assumed
oppositional
thing
and-
and
secondly,
I
would
say
every
organization
I've
ever
worked
in
had
some
fairly
complicated
ways
to
take
a
work
in
progress.
H
That
was
indeed
staff
work
inside
the
organization
not
intended
made
public,
and
then
they
have
a
formal
process
in
which
they
say.
Okay,
this
is
a
draft
and
we're
seeking
the
advice
of
people.
We
often
seek
advice
from
and
sometimes
they're
taking
the
public,
but
but
this
doesn't
seem
like
a
novel
problem.
This
happens
in
every
bureaucracy.
I've
ever
worked
at,
and
so
so
this
is
going
to
come
up
over
and
over
again,
especially
information
technology,
but
I
think
anything
that
the
county
does
so.
So
how
does?
How
does
the
county
normally
do?
Obviously,.
H
So
everything
must
originate
with
either
the
manager
or
the
board
or
some
appointment
official
and
then
reach
a
point
at
which
people
say.
We
need
to
start
checking
with
folks
about
this
and
the
batting
order
in
which
we
check
is
really
important
and
there's
some
kind
of
chain
of
command
here.
What's
the
normal
way.
G
I
think
in
the
department
of
technology
it
is
not
an
everyday
occurrence
for
us
to
interact
directly
with
the
public
or
to
publish
things
directly
to
the
public.
We
are
largely
an
internal
support
organization,
so
our
muscles
are
not
as
strong
as
some
of
those
departments
that
do
this
on
it
for
many
daily
basis.
A
All
right
all
right:
let's
thanks
for
the
clarification
and
frank
legislative
priorities.
E
Yes,
right
are
the
continuing
broadband
struggle.
Nearly
two
dozen
broadband
service
providers,
including
our
friends
at
comcast
and
verizon,
have
committed
to
providing
high-speed
broadband
service
of
at
least
100
megabit
bits
per
second
in
connection
with
the
30
dollar
monthly
subsidy
offered
under
the
american
connectivity
program.
Hcp
a
new
website
get
internet
dot.
Gov
has
been
launched
on
how
to
sign
up
for
acp.
There
are
income
based
eligibility
requirements
to
participate
in
acp,
for
example,
200
of
the
poverty
level
or
participation
in
existing
programs
such
as
snap
and
federal
public
housing
assistance.
E
E
This
is
in
addition
to
the
temporary
emergency
connectivity
fund
program,
which
covered
wi-fi
and
school
bus
as
part
of
covet
relief
measures,
so
this
would
make
that
a
permanent
part
of
the
e-rate
program,
verizon
and
team
mobile
separately.
Now,
on
another
another
item,
verizon
and
t-mobile
have
added
530
000
fixed
wireless
access,
fwa
5g
home
broadband
subscribe
subscribers
in
the
first
quarter
of
2022,
which
which
constitutes
nearly
half
of
the
net
increase
in
broadband
subscribers
and
there's
a
5
nationwide.
E
So
that
would
be
wireline
and
and
wireless
total
combined
for
over
a
million
net
increase
in
broadband
subscribers
and
it
represents
a
five-fold
increase
over
the
number
of
fwa
subscribers
added
in
the
first
quarter
of
2021.
E
Our
neighbors
across
the
river
washington
dc,
has
entered
into
partnerships
with
internet
service
providers,
giving
access
to
put
antennas
on
city-owned
rooftops
if
the
isps
agreed
to
provide
reduced
or
no
cost
connections
to
households
eligible
for
the
federal,
a
affordable,
connective
connectivity
program
acp
one
provider,
we
link
will
provide
gigabyte
symmetric
broadband
service
back
to
cyber
security.
The
house
has
passed
and
sent
to
president
biden.
E
It's
a
bill
that
had
previously
been
passed
by
the
senate,
poor
signature,
a
law
that
directs
department
of
homeland
security,
sharing
to
improve
more
information
and
coordinate
coordination
with
state,
local
and
and
tribal
governments.
That's
my
report
for
this
month.
A
J
G
I
don't
know
if
you
have
it
on
your
agenda
yet,
but
the
the
public
meeting
rules
for
the
commonwealth
are
back
in
play.
I
guess
is
the
best
way
to
describe
it.
G
I
will
be
attending
a
training
in
the
next
few
weeks
on
what
the
rules
are
for
commission
meetings
as
far
as
in-person
quorums,
how
you
can
do
hybrid
meetings
and
how
frequently
you
can
do
those
meetings,
but
just
to
be
aware
that
is
on
the
agenda
there
are,
I
guess
I
would
call
them
roll
backs
coming
to
the
amount
of
virtual
meetings
that
we're
allowed
to
do
for
commissions.
G
So
please
put
that
on
your
agendas
for
research
and
comment,
because
I'm
sure
you
will
all
have
views
on
the
proposals
that
we've
seen
and
you
know
I'll
know
more
in
the
next
few
weeks.
A
Yeah,
I'm
richard
to
add
to
that
the
commission
shares
met
and
were
briefed,
and
we
were
that
that'll
be
part
of
my
chair
update
so
we'll,
but
thank
you
for
flagging
it
and
they
mentioned
that
you
all
hadn't
gotten
briefed
yet
and
would
soon
so
so
we're
all
catching
up
and
the
the
next
on
our
agenda's
legislative
priorities.
Just
what
we
just
want
to
do
is
flag
that
usually
they'll.
Ask
us
for
legislative
priorities,
the
county
board
in
july,
and
what
that
is
for
those
who
are
new
on
the
the
commission.
A
Basically,
the
the
county
will
board
will
ask
for
each
of
the
commissions
to
submit
three
or
four
priorities
from
their
perspective.
Then
they
pull
it
together.
They
look
at
it,
and
the
county
board
collectively
makes
recommendations
and
talks
about
it
from
a
northern
virginia
perspective
right
what
what
they
believe
the
the
legislative
priorities.
They
also
do
it
on
the
as
as
richard
knows.
Well,
they
do
it
on
the
staff
side
as
well.
They
ask
the
staff
for
what.
What
do
you
think
is
really
important?
A
So
that's
we'll
spend
some
time
in
june
talking
about
that,
but
we
just
want
to
give
you
a
heads
up
about
the
things
and
we'll
share
again
what
we
submitted
last
year.
It
was
three
or
f.
It
was
four.
A
I
think
four
priorities
from
tech
commission
perspective,
and
just
just
so
you
all
can
be
thinking
about
what
you
think
our
our
items
should
be,
and
one
of
them,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
was
this
discussion
about
virtual
meetings,
because
I
think
we've
gotten
incredible
participation
in
a
virtual
mode
and-
and
that
was
the
shared-
that
was
the
consensus
when
the
commission
chairs
met
as
well.
A
So
so
just
wanted
to
give
you
all
a
heads
up
on
that.
The
next
one
is
the
the
draft
letter
about
local
governments
purview
what
what
local
government
can
do
in
relation
to
digital
privacy.
Thank
you
all
for
the
work
you
all
worked
there
were.
There
were
lots
of
hands
pulling
this
together,
not
only
the
the
letter
but
also
the
the
enclosures
so
just
wanted
to.
I
think
we
circulated
a
draft
today,
so
I
wanted
to
wanted
to
open
it
up.
A
For
those
of
you,
who've
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
most
recent
draft.
What
is
is
what's
missing
in
there?
How
would
you
like
to
proceed
so
I
open
it
up
to
the
floor.
L
John
I'd
like
to
one
propose
one
amendment
mostly
for
tone
in
the
second
to
last
paragraph.
There
is
a
sentence
that
says
we
will
do
our
part
and
we
expect
you
to
do
your
part.
I
would
move
that
we
strike
that.
I
think
that
we
will
do
our
part
as
duplicative
of
the
prior
sentence,
that
we
support
it.
We've
you.
G
L
Said
that
on
many
occasions-
and
I
think,
and
we
expect
to
do,
your
part
is
not
the
tone
that
we're
looking
to
send
to
motivate
and
encourage
and
advise
the
board.
M
A
N
Uh-Huh
mike
go
ahead,
it
sounds
like
my
cue,
and
I
am
I
am.
I
certainly
want
to
take
account
of
the
tone
concerns
that
many
people
have,
and
I
certainly
came
out
with
both
guns
blazing,
because
I
didn't
like
what
I
heard
at
the
board
meeting
but
but
I
want
to
just
say
I
believe
I
have
seen
no
evidence
that
a
sweet
tone
gets
a
result,
and
so
I'm
not
trying
to
be
oppositional
in
a
way
that
will
get
us
dismissed.
N
But
I
am
more
than
three
years
into
us,
looking
for
just
the
right
tone
and
and
now
I'm
believing
it's
not
really
about
tone.
It's
about
the
issue
we
just
discussed
before.
Where
is
the?
Where
is
the?
Where
does
the
responsibility
and
accountability
reside
between
the
board
and
the
manager
and
the
folks
who
manage
programs
in
the
county?
N
I
think
that's
a
complicated
answer
and-
and
I
think
in
this
particular
instance,
we
may
need
the
board
to
direct
the
manager
and
the
manager
to
direct
other
people
to
do
this,
and
and
I'm
not
sure
how
one
makes
that
happen,
but
it's
not
by
being
quiet
and
excessively
polite.
In
my
opinion,
so
what
are
we?
What
are
we
trying
to
accomplish
here?
We
trying
to
get
the
board
to
make
a
time-bounded
assignment
to
the
manager.
L
So
what
I
would
say
is
that
I
don't
think
this
letter
is
quiet
at
all
as
written.
I
think
it's
very
pointed
I
think
it's
very
assertive,
but
as
a
commission
that's
appointed
by
the
board
to
advise
the
board,
I
think
some
of
the
questions
you
have
mike,
I
I
share.
I
just
don't
think
it's
appropriate
for
that
to
be
an
action
of
the
commission
and
that's
that's
just
where
I'm
at
so.
O
A
Okay,
gary
did
you
want
to
make
a
comment
up,
you're,
muted
right
now.
O
Thanks
a
lot,
not
only
do
I
second
that
I
want
to
echo
what
john
said
when
I
was
reading
through
the
draft
that
phrase
right
there
and
we
expect
the
county
to
do
the
same.
That
really
jarred
me.
I
I
think
that's
probably
beyond
our
position.
O
I
think
the
strongest
we
could
probably
say
if
we
wanted
to
have
something
of
that
nature
in
the
draft
would
be
along
the
lines
that
we
call
on
the
board
in
our
advisory
capacity
to
more
closely
look
at
whatever
I
think,
that's
the
strongest
we
could
possibly
say,
but
I
had
the
same
reaction.
That
john
did.
I
thought
that
was
an
inappropriate
tone
to
be
taking
in
our
letter
and
the
alternate
language
I
suggested
might
be
a
finesse
on
that.
D
D
I
agree
I
brought
up
tone
before
in
the
the
reviews
of
it
and
I
think
striking
that
part
would
probably
be
the
best
way
like
I
said
before,
I'm
not
too
sure
of
the
exact
tone
trying
to
use
now,
but
because
I'm
new,
but
generally
in
writing,
I
you
know
for
government
papers.
I
avoid
the
big
big
ones
like
that.
A
Okay,
all
right,
any
any
other
comments
on
the
specific.
Just
what
we're
suggesting
is
to
delete
that
sentence
at
the
moment.
L
And
I
would
also
say
earlier
in
the
document
we
also
state
that
it
is
the
duty
of
the
county
board
to
act
and
protect
and
to
preserve
that
right.
So.
O
E
A
Okay,
phil
did
you
want
to
comment
on
on
this
particular.
I
I
wrote
you
a
note
earlier
about
the
final
paragraph.
I
My
wonderful
words,
the
word
such
was
left
out
in
the
second
sentence.
A
Oh,
that's,
okay,
hold
steady
I'll,
get
back
to
you
as
soon
as
we
get
this.
We
we
okay
so
on
the
on
the
table
at
the
moment,
is
on
the
floor
at
the
moment.
It
is
deleting
that
sentence
and
john
you
wanna.
It's
not
right
in
front
of
me.
You
just
wanna,
read
it
out,
so
you
can
so
everybody
knows,
and
then
you
can
vote
we'll
take
vote.
L
Sure
so
the
motion
again
is
in
one
two
three
four
paragraph:
five,
the
sentence:
we
will
do
our
part
and
we
expect
you
to
do
your
part.
The
motion
is
to
remove
that
sentence
and
make
no
other
changes.
Okay,.
A
Michael,
did
you
have
a
comment
about
this
before
we
go
to
vote?
Are
you
you
in
line
to
talk
about
something
else?
Well,.
A
M
A
All
right,
let's
we'll
get
so
phil,
is
first
and
then
you,
okay,
all
right
all
those
in
favor
of
deleting
this.
This
sentence,
could
you
say
I
or
raise
your
hand
on
the
reaction.
A
Okay,
one
abstention;
okay,
all
right,
so
phil,
let's
get
to
you,
you
wanted
to
go
to
the
last
paragraph
and
then
michael
goes
to
the
first
three.
I
I
A
D
A
So
phil,
what
you're
saying
is
change
it
back
to
information.
You
want
everything,
information
technology
that
says
digital
in
that
last
paragraph.
I
A
D
I
A
I
A
You're,
suggesting,
I
think,
is
three
things
you
want
to
put
back
such
where
a
is
so
it's
such
plan.
Then
you
want
to
replace
where
digital
is
used
to
replace
with
information
technology
and
then
insert
that
in
I'm,
not
certain,
which
I
it's,
the
third
or
fourth
sentence.
Can
you
read,
can
you
read
that
where
the
that
is.
I
A
A
A
I
And
then
in
the
very
last
sentence,
it
would
simply
say
we
strongly
urge
the
board
to
direct
that
work.
Begin
on
a
broad
I.t
plan
without
further
delay,
and
I
have
in
the
interest
of
all
of
us
just
to
plant
the
idea
that
we're
all
in
this
together.
A
Second,
jackie
seconded
and
any
any
comment
about
this
particular
the
the
really
change
back.
A
What
what
what
phil
is
recommended
any
martha
did
you
have
a
comment
about
this.
J
N
A
N
I
A
N
Yeah,
my
and
my
fear
phil
is
that
we're
trying
to
write
to
them
with
some
urgency,
in
my
opinion,
about
not
allowing
privately
owned
sensors
to
be
trained
on
the
public
park
or
any
other
park
in
arlington.
My
my
fear
is
that,
even
though
I
agree
with
what
the
ask
is
here,
that
it
might
avail
the
board
of
the
opportunity
to
say
we
don't
think
we
need
to
do
anything
with
privacy.
H
I
D
A
A
Any
other
comments
about
before
we,
I
think
we
got
did
we
get
a
second.
We
did
get
a
second
right,
jackie
seconded
right,
yeah
right
any
other
gary.
You
have
a
comment
right,
you're,
not
you're,
muted.
At
the
moment,.
O
Yeah
just
a
question
for
the
group
on
the
last
sentence
in
the
interest
of
all
of
us
who
want
to
leave
it
at
that
or
in
the
interest
of
all
citizens
of
arlington,
county
or
arlington
county
citizens.
I
could
have
it
either
way,
but
just
in
the
interest
of
all
of
us.
O
I
Yeah,
I
kind
of
left
it
vague
like
this,
because
I'm
not
quite
sure
who
we
do
represent.
You
know
we're
not
really
representatives
of
the
citizens
where
people
have
applied
to
be
on
this
commission
and
were
accepted
by
the
board.
So
that's
kind
of
why
I
put
it
this
way,
but
I'm
you
know,
I'm
I'm
not
in
love
with
it.
If
you
have
a
better
idea,
gary.
I
A
Okay,
all
right,
so,
let's
take
it
to
let's
take
it
to
vote.
Then.
Is
everybody
clear
about
what
that
last
paragraph
says
as
as
suggested
as
recommended
all
right,
all
those
in
favor.
A
A
Do
I
hear
any
opposition,
any
abstentions,.
D
A
That
you
s,
you
send
that
to
send
that
to
frank
and
to
me
so
that
we
make
sure
and
put
that
put
that
back
in.
A
Yeah
the
it
was.
A
There
were
no,
there
were
no
no
extensions
or.
E
A
Right
right
exactly-
and
I
know
michael
cornfield-
you
made
some
some
edits
in
that
regard
as
well,
so
we'll
make
sure.
But
michael
now
we
can
go
to
the
first
four
paragraphs.
M
So
let
me
read
it
to
you:
we,
the
county
appointed
citizen
commissioners
of
arlington,
county's
information
technology,
advisory,
commission
tech
commission,
write
this
letter
pursuant
to
our
advisory
charter.
So
we're
not
representing
everybody,
we're
doing
something.
Pursuant
to
our
advisory
charter.
We
express
the
tech
commission's
support
for
a
collaboration
with
the
planning
commission
to
develop
a
privacy
policy
for
the
county.
So
I'm
building
on
what
what
board
member
garvey
suggested.
A
A
M
A
Where
did
I
garvey
was.
M
M
M
M
In
addition,
arlington
county
has
some
unique
features
to
consider
as
the
home
to
the
pentagon
and
others
in
the
national
security
community.
The
life
patterns
of
our
citizens
are
not
only
of
interest
to
entities
that
can
profit
from
the
data,
but
also
foes
who
oppose
our
way
of
life.
As
a
leader
in
the
digital
industry,
the
elite
workforce,
we
seek
to
attract
and
retain
want
to
live
in
a
place
with
ethically
responsible
standards
and
practices.
M
So
my
goal
here
is
just
to
tighten
the
pros
that
was
that
was
my
my
goal,
and
I
I
tried
to
strike
a
forceful
but
non-confrontational
tone
and
then
the
rest
is
is
sort
of
broader
and-
and
I
have
no
suggestions
that,
beyond
those
first
four
paragraphs
and.
M
A
Okay,
good,
that's
good
all
right,
anyone
second!
So
we
can
get
it
on
the
floor
to
discuss
gary
okay
gary
seconds
all
right,
any
any
questions.
L
Would
you
ex,
would
you
accept
a
friendly
adjustment
to
the
amendment
to
split
the
edits
to
the
paragraphs
into
two
motions,
because
I
think
I
can
fully
support
the
first
paragraph
edits,
but
I
think
the
second
paragraph
edits
are
the
other
paragraph
that
I'd
like
to
talk
about
in
more
detail.
A
M
Okay
comments
made
about
personal
privacy
and
by
the
way
I
removed
everybody's
name,
all
the
board
members
names
right,
but
you
may
want
to
restore
those,
but
I
removed
them
comments
made
about
personal
privacy
at
the
board's
april,
23rd
2022,
open
meeting
indicated
interest
in
such
an
initiative,
I'm
building
on
what
garvey
said
and
in
a
sense
also
on
what
what
crystal
and
and
and
takas
said,
the
topic
arose
in
response
to
citizen
voice
concerns
about
personal
privacy
in
the
public
space
on
the
amazon
campus.
M
M
M
L
K
I'm
confused
because
when
he
said
when
you're
saying
the
first
two
paragraphs,
the
second
paragraph
is
this
perpetuating,
which
is
the
list
of
where
it's
been
tried,
and
I
don't
want
to
delete
that.
Oh
no,
I
didn't.
M
J
M
Yeah,
I
just
realized
that
that's
what
I
had
done-
yeah
I've
left
the
I've
left
the
paragraph
that
says
perpetuating
the
narrative
I
left
that
alone
and
what
about.
M
L
L
If
he
would
amend
his
motion
to
just
deal
with
the
first
paragraph
splitting
into
two
first,
because
I
think
that's
simpler
and.
A
M
Okay,
we,
the
county,
appointed
citizen
commissioners
of
arlington,
county's
information
technology
advisory.
Commission
tech
commission
write
this
letter
pursuant
to
our
advisory
charter.
We
express
the
tech
commission's
support
for
a
collaboration
with
the
planning
commission
to
develop
a
privacy
policy
for
the
county.
M
The
topic
arose
in
response
to
citizen
voice
concerns
about
personal
privacy
in
the
public
space
on
the
amazon
campus.
Some
comments
suggested
that
there
is
nothing
the
county
can
do
to
stem
the
tide
of
ubiquitous
digital
information.
Gathering
we
respectfully
and
strenuously
strenuously
disagree
end.
A
A
If
you
can
hear
me,
I
don't
know
how
you
got
there.
We
go
he'll
come
back
in
so
as
soon
as
mike
comes
back
in
we'll
go
to
vote.
Thank
you,
michael
for
doing
those
being
able
to
read
that
we'll
vote
on
those
first
and
I'm
sorry
we're
running
over
tonight.
We
don't
normally
do
that.
I
apologize,
but
I
know
this
laborious,
but
it's
good
for
us
to
get
this
through
phil.
You
gotta,
sorry,
have
a
question.
A
I
I'm
sorry
the
audio
is
not
working
very
well,
so
I
haven't
heard
anything,
but
I
do
have
just
a
question.
I
thought
I
heard
the
phrase
something
about
requesting
the
county
to
develop
a
privacy
policy
seems
to
me.
We
got
a
couple
months
back.
A
long
list
of
departmental
privacy
policies
must
have
been
a
dozen
of
them
or
more
is
what
we're
really
asking
for
here,
a
better
compendium
of
the
existing
policies,
policies
that
don't
exist
or
are
we
looking
for
something
which
is
integrated?
I
That
is
includes
all
our
current
policies,
plus
anything
that
needs
to
be
there
to
fill
the
gaps
and
to
have
some
community
input
to
this.
It's
a
little
clear
unclear
to
me
and
if
we
simply
say
to
develop
a
privacy
policy
seems
to
me
county
folk
will
say:
hey
they're,
not
listening,
we've
already,
given
them
20
county
policies
on
privacy,
just
a
question.
L
A
K
A
K
I
thought
you
would
want
to
make
it
say
specifically
that
would
address
circumstances
such
as
the
one
in
the
in
the
park,
because
you
know
otherwise
we're
just
coming
back
and
asking
them
to
develop
a
privacy
policy
again,
and
this
is
the
reason
why
the
planning
commission
is
on
this
list
is
because
it
had
to
do
with
a
public
spaces
development
project
in
public
space.
So
good
idea,
jackie
if
we
broaden
and
expand
the
language
that
you
use,
that
wouldn't
that
would
address
issues
such
as
you
know
this
one
that
was
the
topic.
N
Yeah,
yes,
and-
and
these
are
friendly
comments-
I
can
almost
do
the
first
one
verbatim.
I
think
we
might
want
to
use
citizen-centric
comprehensive
privacy
policy.
You
know
because
I
think
the
thing
that's
missing
here
is
many
people
in
the
county.
When
I
listen
to
them,
they
seem
to
suggest
that
a
undisclosed
number
of
policies
residing
in
an
undisclosed
number
of
places
that
can
change
at
any
moment
is
good
enough
for
a
citizen,
and
your
responsibility
is
to
know
where
to
find
them
and
look
all
the
time
you
know
because
they
might
be
changing.
N
So
I
think
comprehensive,
county-wide
policy
kind
of
like,
like
new
york
city's,
you
know,
says
something
like
city
wide
privacy
practice,
so
so
to
make
it
a
one-stop
shopping.
Experience
for
a
citizen,
I
think,
is
really
important.
My
other
friendly
amendment
was
what
would
you
think-
and
I'm
going
to
paraphrase
this,
because
I
can't
do
it
verbatim
off
the
top
my
head-
and
this
is
actually
an
idea,
john
raised.
N
M
Well,
my
reaction
is,
is
that
second
thing
that
you
just
said
is
sufficiently
important
to
merit
its
own
paragraph,
the
urgency
and
the
the
the
risk
that
that
or
the
opportunity
to
to
have
our
policy
in
a
position
to
be
grandfathered.
If
and
when
the
federal
government
acts
I
mean
I
I
like
all
of
that,
I
just
I
can't.
M
I
don't
know
that
it
belongs.
In
the
very
first
paragraph,
it
seems
to
me
to
be
an
important
argument
for
urgency
that
deserves
a
paragraph
of
its
own.
N
A
So
why
don't
we
go
to
vote
for
the
first
two
paragraphs
that
have
been
revised
and
I
think
we
might
take
let's,
let's
see
how
far
we
can
get
with
that
all
right.
So
the
first
that
you
just
read,
michael
the
first
two
and
you're,
adding.
L
L
M
M
A
So
why
don't
we,
obviously
this
is
recorded,
so
we
can
easily
go
back
and
if
do
what's
the
sense,
do
you
all
want
to
just
look
at
a
fresh
stock?
We
can
circulate
and
then
take
a
census.
You
know,
go
I'm
balancing
urgency
with
wanting
to
get
it
right
right.
So
how?
How
does
it
some
of
these
revisions
can
be
made?
We
can
send
it
around
and
see
how
you
all
feel.
M
A
A
A
L
L
The
recommendation
is
create
a
privacy
program
writ
large
for
the
government
so
that
all
of
the
privacy
policies
are
integrated
and
appropriate
and
lined
in
with
our
strategic
objectives
and
use
the
nist
privacy
framework
as
the
the
foundation
for
creating
that
privacy
program.
L
So
it
is
not
a
written
document
that
is
just
one
tiny
aspect
of
a
privacy
program.
It's
staff,
it's
processes
and
procedures.
It's
communication
out
to
the
public.
It's
it's
controlling
the
the
data.
It's
it's
full
stack,
so
to
speak.
So
that's
the
recommendation
why?
I
think
we
should
not
phrase
it
as
create
a
privacy
policy,
but
we
should
be
talking
about
making
recommendations
about
privacy
policy
where
I
think
the
planning
commission
conversation
comes
in
is
exploring
the
art
of
the
possible
about
what
restrictions
and
what
requirements
we
can
place
on.
L
Private
building
owners
site
plan
applicants
in
terms
of
their
surveillance
of
the
public
realm,
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
because
I
haven't
looked
into
it
at
all.
But
I
think
that
is
the
nexus
with
us
with
the
privacy,
with
the
the.
L
Planning,
commission-
and
that
goes
beyond
potentially
areas
of
control,
which
is
one
of
the
frames
that
was
in
our
recommended
policy
framework
or
comprehensive
plan
framework
that
that
might
put
forward
that
we
endorsed
this.
Would
that
would,
I
think,
extend
into
the
areas
of
of
influence
right
where
we
have
the
ability
to
influence
the
private
sector
through
zoning
regulations?
L
A
A
Okay,
so
I
think
it's
so
I'm
I'm
getting
this
just
a
sense
of
the
of
the
commission
that
we
will
rewrite
give
a
and
we'll
do
it
before
the
june
meeting.
Is
that
any
any.
A
L
A
Well,
if
there's
any,
are
there
any?
The
only
question
I
have
is:
are
there
other
recommendations
on
the
other
paragraphs?
Besides,
what
michael
has
you
know?
The
prophet?
Was
there
concern
about
john
you
had.
Did
you
have
concern
about
the
you're
muted
for
some
reason
or
you're,
not
saying
anything.
L
M
Right:
okay,.
O
O
Gary,
the
former
fifth
paragraph,
that's
on
the
previous
sentence,
where
we
got
rid
of
we
talked
about
what
we
expected
the
board
to
do.
We
ditched
that,
but
the
following
sentence
says:
we
implore
the
board-
and
there
was
some
conversation
earlier
that
maybe
that
was
a
little
bit
of
overreach.
Okay,.
A
Any
so
john,
you
had
comment
about
the.
What
is
now
the
I
think.
Third
paragraph
after
after
we
go
with
the
exemplars.
H
M
Just
tried
to
explain
what
I
wanted
to
do
in
that
paragraph.
That
paragraph
is
that
paragraph
is
the.
Why
paragraph
why
we
want
to
do
this?
One
is.
There
are
a
number
of
reason
number
one.
There
is
a
number
of
values
to
balance
security,
privacy,
profit.
Convenience
two
is
the
national
security
argument.
Three
is
the
elite
workforce.
We
seek
to
attract
and
retain,
and
then
mike
just
added
a
fourth
one,
which
is
we
should
try
to
act
before
the
federal
government
does
so
that
we
have
our
policy
in
place.
M
So
to
me,
that's
where
the
the
the
case
is
made
as
it
were
and,
and
the
word
smithing
I'm
open,
of
course
to
suggestion,
but
I
think
that
four-part
argument
there
there
are
values
to
balance
their
national
security
considerations,
there's
an
elite
workforce.
We
want
to
attract
and
retrain,
and
we
want
to
get
get
this
in
before
the
federal
government
might
might
set
boundaries
on
what
we're
able
to
do.
All
four
of
those
arguments
strike
me
as
very
strong.
L
Headed
word:
I
had
no
concern
with
the
addition
of
the
word
profit
in
the
values
that
needed
to
be
balanced.
But
when
you
read
it
michael,
I
didn't
hear
you
repeat.
The
current
end
sentence,
which
is
ethical
technologists,
are
deciding
where
to
found
and
grow
their
businesses,
which
is
really
important
to
me,
because
I
think
there's
an
assumption
that
the
surveillance
capitalism
business
model
is
the
only
one
that
can
succeed.
L
But
that's
not
actually
the
case,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
and
I
would
advocate
strongly
for
being
a
place
that
attracts
people
who
are
founding
businesses
that
are
based
on
more
sustainable
ethical
business
models
other
than
the
surveillance
capitalism
model.
And
we
want
to
be
that
place
where
those
people
want
to
come
and
found
and
grow.
M
L
L
Yeah,
then,
then,
I
think
any
any
edits
offline
to
that
I'll
be
fine
with
this,
as
long
as
the
intent
is
preserved,.
A
N
N
A
N
I
would
suggest
we
say
in
our
in
our
hometown:
we
should
be
able
to
feel
at
ease
comma
free
as
we
choose
from
any
prying
surveillance
devices
comma
until
we
knowingly
enter
into
spaces
or
engage
in
activities
that
merit
controls
for,
and
then
I
have
a
list
that
might
be
a
little
redundant
on
controls
for
public
safety,
national
defense
or
protection
of
property,
but
not
for
harvesting
maximum.
Personally
identifiable
information
for
private
gain.
A
M
A
K
K
Yeah,
I
have
a
reaction.
You
ask
for
general
reactions
right,
I'm
not
sure
that
that
last
paragraph
adds
the
way
we
want
to.
I
I
because
it's
not
as
simple
as
things
that
are
being
done
for
private
gain
versus
things
that
are
done
for
safety.
K
I
mean
the
arguments
are
frequently
safety
and
various
other
things
that
some
people
think
are
worth
it
and
other
people
don't-
and
you
know,
selling
data
is
not
exactly
what
this
is
about,
it's
about
more
than
that,
so
that
makes
it
sound
like
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
data
can't
be
sold,
and
I
don't
think
that's
very
issue.
So
the
the
contrast
that's
set
up
in
that
last
paragraph
is
one
I
I
don't
really
agree
with.
A
So
if
we
could
have
comment
on
that,
when
we
thanks
jackie,
if
we
could
have
comment
on
that
as
we
circulate
around,
that
would
be
that'll
be
helpful.
Gary
is
that
an
old
hand
or
a
new
hand.
O
Well,
actually,
it
was
a
new
one
and
it's
essentially
echoing
jackie's
comments
here.
I
think
we
are
stronger
concluding
with
something
that
is
a
thought.
That's
a
global
thought
doing
something
that's
in
the
interest
of
everyone,
rather
than
focusing
on
one
what
can
be
perceived
as
one
narrow
interest
of
concern
if
you
want
to
have
that,
it
should
be
elsewhere
in
the
letter
rather
than
in
the
closing
thought.
A
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you
and
thanks
everybody.
This
was
this.
Was
it's
always
difficult
to
edit
with
a
group
and
virtually
made
it,
but
you
hung
in
there.
So
thank
you
just
real
quickly.
I
just
wanted
two
two
updates
one.
As
I
mentioned,
the
virtual
excuse
me
they're,
saying
that
we're
gonna
go
back
face
to
face
in
september,
we'll
see
where
we
are
in
terms
of
the
virus.
The
virus
has
a
vote.
A
There's,
as
richard
mentioned,
there's
a
look
at
at
meeting
25
of
the
time
so
maybe
twice
out
of
the
year
they're
trying
to
figure
out
whether
that
means
each
of
you
can
go
virtual
or
whether
all
of
us
can
go
virtual.
At
the
same
time,
there's
there's
they're
getting
clarity
around
that.
So
the
the
best
thing,
I
should
say,
is
stay
tuned
right
now.
A
The
plan
is
to
come
back
face
to
face
in
september,
but
we
will
have
more
more
on
that
as
they
work
out
and
translate
exactly
what
they
think
this
and,
of
course,
they're
going
back
to
richmond
and
saying
we
really
want
the
option
of
of
virtual,
considering
how
many
people
have
participated
and
also
how
easy
it
is
for
people
who
have
child
care
issues
and
all
that
to
access
and
engage
in
in
you
know,
participate
in
the
commission
so
stay
tuned
on
that
are
all
these
hands
old
hands.
J
Okay,
this
is
a
comment
which
I
think
leads
to
a
question
for
frank.
I
thought
we
resolved
the
whole
issue
of
robocalls
and
it's
definitely
back
in
my
house
what
happened.
E
It's
a
ongoing
battle,
in
fact,
the
fcc
has
just
taken
some
additional
action.
I
think
I
had
reported
that
it
was
planned
to
do
and
it
did
in
fact
basically
a
lot
of
these
calls
are
originating
overseas.
E
J
J
E
When
they
become
yeah,
but
the
I
mean
the
fcc,
you
know
the
fcc
is
taking
a
number
of
enforcement
actions
as
well,
so
the
enforce
enforcement
apparatus
at
the
fcc
is
involved,
but
there's
also
other
aspects
of
the
federal
government
that
have
been
involved
and
there's
actually
coordination
with
state
attorney
generals.
A
significant
number
of
state
attempt
attorney
generals
are
joining
with
the
federal
government,
the
fcc
now
in
in
trying
to
solve
this
problem.
K
Yes,
back
on
the
meeting
requirements
right,
I
thought
I
also
saw
that
there
was
a
possibility
that
the
meetings
would
be
hybrid
in
all
cases,
to
allow
attendance
by
people
who
otherwise
couldn't
attend.
K
Disabilities,
but
I
think
that
might
actually
be
you
might
find
that
that's
broader
than
is
often
thought
of.
So,
for
example,
I
can't
drive
at
night
anymore
so
evening.
Meetings
are
you
know,
it's
not
technically
considered
a
disability,
but
not
being
able
to
drive
at
night
means
you
need
to.
You
know,
take
an
uber
or
get
someone
to
drive
you
or
something
like
that.
So
it's
an
added
difficulty,
so
I
don't
know
whether
they
would
consider
something
like
that
a
reason,
but
I
would
suggest
that
for
many
people
it
is.
A
Yeah
and
the
other
question
that
came
up
and
then
we,
I
really
do
I'm
sharing
a
meeting
at
eight
o'clock,
so
I
I
need
to
I
need
to
end
and
I,
if
you
want
to
continue,
I
can
turn
it
over
to
my
able
vice
chair,
frank,
the.
A
So
so
we
are
definitely
any,
but
to
your
point,
jackie
one
of
the
things
they're
also
looking
at
is:
are
the
county
rooms
set
up
the
way
they
need
to
be
to
accommodate
a
hybrid,
because,
as
you
know,
so
that's
the
other
thing
they
were
going.
We
asked
the
chairs
asked
to
to
do
that
because,
obviously,
as
you
know,
there's
more
than
one
commission
meeting
a
night,
so
we
have
to
make
sure
that
multiple
rooms
are
available
and
ready
to
accommodate
hybrids.
A
So
stay
tuned,
so
multiple
questions
around
this,
so
we
we
should
get
some
clarity,
yes
and
happy
anniversary,
frank
and
tell
barbara's
glad
she's
being
patient.
Okay.
A
My
final
update
is,
I
will
be
resigning
from
the
commission
as
of
july
1.
frank
has
graciously
and
kindly
agreed
to
be
interim
chair.
We
are
recommending
john,
the
vice
chair.
That
will
be
the
board's
decision
to
to
a
point
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that
before
before
the
june
meeting-
and
it
has
been
my
pleasure
I'll
say
a
little
bit
more
in
the
june
meeting
considering
the
time.
A
But
thank
you
all,
and
we
will
get
the
draft
letter
around
to
you
and
and
we'll
we'll
try
to
accelerate
that
and
get
that
done
before
june
and
and
with
the
enclosures.