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A
D
B
It
was
nice
today,
I'm
glad
I
needed
a
little
a
little
summer
day.
It's
good
all
right
we're
at
the
top
of
the
hour,
and
I
think
we
have
you
know
people
who
will
come
in
welcome
everybody
thanks
again,
angela
for
organizing
so
call
the
meeting
to
order.
Is
there
any
public
comment
before
we
before
we
get
started.
B
All
right
hearing-
none
I
just
wanted
to.
We
have
a
prospective
member
for
the
commission
and
john
johnson
who
actually
came
to
our
forum
and
was
was
so
interested.
He
said.
Well,
I
think
if
there's
ever
a
vacancy
I'd
like
to
engage
so
john,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
just
giving
us
just
a
overview
of
your
background,
that'd
be
great.
E
All
right
great,
thank
you
good
to
see
everyone.
My
name
is
john
johnson
and
I
did
come
through
this
through
that
forum.
I
thought
that
was
a
very
great
presentation.
I'm
usually
involved
in
a
few
different
community
functions
and
being
new
to
the
arlington
area.
I
thought
I'd
jump
back
in.
I
currently
work
at
the
federal
energy
regulatory
commission.
I
deal
with
a
lot
of
the
financial
financial
management
systems
and
data
analytics
and
the
regulatory
and
even
having
to
take
that
to
trial.
E
B
Oh
well
welcome,
thank
you
very
much
and
and
if
we
can
just.
C
B
A
Sure
hi
gary
thayer
here
I'm
new
on
the
commission
as
of
mid
last
year.
Prior
to
that,
I
had
a
background
career
in
federal
government
at
federal
communications
commission
as
an
attorney
and
also
at
the
united
states,
patent
and
trademark
office,
and
I
had
done
some
non-profit
work
as
well.
Most
recently
at
arlington,
independent
media.
B
Thanks
so
much
gary
and
jackie.
F
Sure,
jackie
jackie
snelling
I've
been
on
a
a
couple
years,
started
out
as
the
liaison
from
the
emergency
preparedness
advisory
commission
and
got
hooked
on
attending
the
meeting
so
and
I'm
also
a
retired,
I'm
a
retired,
fed
retired
fema,
where
I
did
work
on
emergency
communications
among
a
host
of
other
things.
B
H
On
you,
there
you
go
hi
there
welcome
I'm
mike
carlton,
I'm
also
a
retired
federal
career
civil
servant.
I
was
the
chief
information
officer
at
a
couple
of
different
federal
agencies
at
different
times,
mainly
at
the
u.s
department
of
health
and
human
services
and
prior
to
that
at
the
u.s
general
services
administration.
Welcome.
I
Howdy
welcome
yeah,
I'm
not
a
new
I-tech
member,
I'm
currently
working
for
the
feds
right
now
doing
like
analytical
stuff,
an
analyst
technical
analyst,
but
I
have
a
background
in
telecom
too.
So
welcome.
J
Hi,
I'm
relatively
new
for
some
of
the
people
who
are
on
board,
but
I
guess
I'm
kind
of
old
hat
by
now.
I've
served
in
my
second
term,
I'm
currently
a
senior
it
specialist
for
the
federal
emergency
management
agency,
and
I
do
software
delivery
for
enterprise
systems
and
acquisition
program
management.
B
D
It
may
be
me:
oh
louise,
okay,
okay,
go
ahead,
go
ahead,
luis!
Oh
I'm.
Louise
anderson
welcome,
I'm
the
bios
tv
franchise
manager
and
I
attend
these
meetings
every
month
in
case
anybody
wants
to
has
any
questions
for
me.
Yeah
with
verizon.
B
Yeah
yeah
any
anyone
else.
I
missed,
as
I
look
through
the
look
through
the
list
here.
Anybody
else
on
that
I
missed,
I
think.
Okay,
all
right
well
next
on
our
agenda
is
john.
B
Is
the
representative
for
tech
commission
on
the
data
privacy
and
oversight
panel
for
the
safety
innovation
zone,
which
we've
been
briefed
on
in
the
initial
the
initial
launch,
so
john,
we
wanted
to
just
get
a
a
sense
about
where,
where
things
are
and
and
what
was
happening
so
it's
great
to
to
hear,
hear
the
update
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
J
Absolutely
and
mary
I'm
having
some
technical
difficulties.
The
transition
from
daycare
pickup
to
itac
meeting
has
not
gone
as
smoothly
as
I
would
have
hoped.
So
if
someone
could
either
bring
up
the
slides
or
if
you
could
push
me
to
after
the
discussion
of
the
budget,
I
think
I
should
be
able
to
have
my
technical
issues
resolved.
B
Okay,
I
did
not.
I
did
not
download
your
unless
unless
frank
you
have
it.
If
anyone
else
has
it
that's
fine,
I
don't.
I
don't.
B
All
right
so
we'll
we'll
we'll
go
to
the
debrief
of
the
virtual
forum,
and
then
you
you,
let
us
know
when
you're,
when
you
can
come
back
in
john
okay,.
B
Okay,
so
the
virtual
forum
program
on
data
privacy,
we
did
get,
we
did
get
50
actually
so
that
was
that
was
a
good
good
response.
I
wanted
to
get
your
sense
about
what
you
observed
and
then
we
just
bounced
around
some
ideas
about
action
items
afterward,
but
just
want
to
open
it
up
to
the
floor
before
we
get
to
those.
J
I'll
go
marry.
I
thought
it
was
a
is
a
really
good
first
step
for
us
as
a
commission,
it's
the
first
time.
We've
done
anything
like
that.
I
think
it
went
reasonably
well,
I
think,
as
usual
anytime,
you
do
something
for
the
first
time
there's
opportunities
for
improvement.
J
So,
but
generally,
I
would
say
kudos
to
you
and
sharon
for
pulling
it
together
and
getting
a
good
panel
and
a
good
discussion
going.
I
think
the
opportunities
for
improvement
I
would
put
in
the
q
a
section
I
think,
a
little
bit
more
structured
and
an
opportunity
for
people
to
submit
questions
in
advance
might
lead
to
a
better
kind
of
dialogue
after
the
prepared
presentations
and-
and
so
I
think,
I
think
that
might
be
an
area
for
improvement
as
we
improve
our
engagement
going
forward.
J
B
Thanks
john
frank,.
C
Yeah,
I
think
also
the
the
look
may
be
improved
if
we
go
to
the
webinar
format
rather
than
going
on
the
traditional
teams
meeting
form,
and
I
think
we
discussed
doing
that
for
the
next
one,
and
I
think
that,
like
just
from
a,
I
think,
overall
look
and
probably
functionality,
maybe
maybe
a
little
better.
B
Right,
good
yeah
yeah,
both
both
good
points
and
mike
you
had
a
suggestion.
Go
ahead
mike.
I
was
just
gonna,
throw
the
ball
to
you.
So
go
ahead.
H
There
you
go,
I'm
sorry,
I
enjoy
a
wide-ranging
discussion
like
that
more
than
the
next
person,
but
I
would
have
to
say
a
citizen
to
that
meeting,
with
no
expectation
that
arlington
county
intends
to
create
a
privacy
policy
and,
and
that
that
would
make
me
wonder
whether
attending
a
second
one
or
a
third
one
is,
is
a
good
use
of
my
time.
If
we're
doing
this
to
to
inform
a
policy
setting
process
and
we're
intending
to
set
a
policy,
it
seems
more
worthwhile
than
if
we're,
if
we're
not
intending
to
set
a
county-wide
policy.
H
The
next
recommendation
would
be
any
forum
like
that.
It's
going
to
be
difficult
to
answer
all
the
questions
that
people
might
bring
forward.
So
I'd
like
to
suggest
a
concept
of
what
I
would
call
like
a
question
for
the
record.
It's
sort
of
like.
I
can't
remember
who
this
was,
but
one
of
the
participants
was
asking
repeatedly
whether
the
county
shares
information
about
citizens
with
any
third
parties.
And
again
I
would
say
if
I
was
observing
correctly-
that
simply
never
got
an
answer
and
it's
a
fair
question.
It's
a
good
question.
H
B
No
thanks
and
and
mike
we
do
have
a
list
of
those
questions
and-
and
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
great
idea
and
we
did
we'll
we'll
just
jump
ahead
a
little
bit
and
one
of
the
questions,
frank
and
I
did
pose
to
make
sure
and
clarify
with
the
board.
Was
you
know,
third
party
sharing
of
data,
and
we're
assured
that
that
was
not
so
that
those
are
good
things
to
have
as
answers
the
question
of
the
record
right,
so
thank
you.
We
will.
We
will
do
that
and
andrea.
B
I
think
one
of
the
things
you
brought
up
that
I
was
just
discussing
with
with
angela
is
we'll
we
want
to
make
sure
we
get
an
okay
from
all
the
presenters
that
we
can
share
all
the
powerpoints.
We
we
pretty
much
have
that,
but
we
just
want
to
make
sure
and
have
that
in
writing,
so
that
we
will
be
able
to
share
those,
because
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
too
to
post
those
in
case
people
wanted
to
look
at
what
what
was
said.
I
B
B
We
also
talked
to
and
we'll
we'll
get
there.
I
think
when
we
do
chair
update
frank:
did
you
have
a
computer?
Oh
john
you're
ready
great.
C
C
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
add
that
some
of
the
questions
might
be
we're.
C
All
right,
okay,
yeah,
I
was
gonna-
suggest
that
perhaps
some
of
the
questions
that
we
receive
might
later
be
worthy
of
faq
in
a
website
on
data
privacy.
C
A
B
Yeah
good
idea,
good
idea
mike,
is
that
an
old
hand
or
a
new
hand.
H
It's
an
old
hand,
but
in
response
to
frank's
comment,
if
I
might,
I
think
that
we
need
the
answer
to
be
coming
from
the
county,
not
from
the
commission.
H
B
No
we're
just
going
to
be
the
conduit
there.
This
needs
to
be
an
official.
Absolutely
an
official
response.
Absolutely
point
point
point
taken
so
john:
you
want
to
give
us
an
update
on.
Do
you
refer
to
it
as
sis.
J
What
I
do
on
my
put
on
my
calendar,
so
I
don't
I
don't
I
neither
endorse
nor
nor
counter
counteract
the
county's
branding
of
this
particular
project.
Can
you
see
my
screen?
You
see.
J
So
I'm
trying
to
keep
this
this
brief.
We've
been
meeting
monthly
as
the
data
privacy
oversight
panel.
J
We've
had
a
couple
meetings
that
have
that
have
gotten
cancelled
for
various
reasons,
but
generally
you've
been
meeting
monthly
since
the
beginning
of
the
project
and
a
lot
of
things
I
think
have
come
as
as
a
result
of
our
collaboration
with
the
county
and
our
feedback
on
on
the
project.
Specifically,
what
if
you
haven't
been
paying
attention?
What
you're?
Probably
unaware
of,
is
that
there
have
been
many
updates
to
the
project
website.
J
So,
as
part
of
the
project,
the
county
went
through
and
exercised
a
privacy
impact
assessment
for
this
project,
but
with
the
intent
to
use
it
as
a
prototype
for
a
broader
privacy
in
impact
assessment
approach
for
all
projects
going
forward,
and
they
have
posted
the
public
version
of
that
privacy
impact
assessment
on
the
project
website
and
in
the
discussions
the
there
there's
a
lot
of
data
in
the
larger
project
privacy
impact
assessment.
J
That
is
not
necessarily
appropriate
to
share
with
the
public,
and
so
I
think
the
the
team
did
a
good
job
of
building
an
artifact
and
a
process
that
could
be
usable
by
all
departments
for
conducting
a
private
privacy
impact
assessment
that
would
coordinate
internal
county
government
resources
while
also
being
transparent
and
publishing,
what's
shareable
to
the
public
out.
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
at
that.
J
Another
thing
that
I
think
really
helps
communicate
and
probably
would
have
been
nice
to
have
earlier
in
the
project
development,
but
we
have
it
now
is
the
sensor
technology
feature
list.
This
is
a
really
plain
attempt
to
put
it
in
layman's
terms,
what
these
sensors
are
capable
of.
J
The
the
system,
not
only
the
sensor
but
the
sensor,
the
software,
the
connectivity,
what
they
are
capable
of
of
detecting
and
the
use
cases
associated
with
those
various
things,
and
it
goes
down
a
lot
of
the
things
that
the
county
intends
to
do,
and
it
also
lists
out
several
things
that
we
thought
important
to
communicate
to
the
public
that
are
not
included
or
not
possible,
either
not
possible
or
not
not
features
that
they
intend
to
utilize
and
there's
there's
a
difference
between
the
two
and
I
think
that
matters
from
the
public's
perception
of
risk
right.
J
Is
it
something
that
we
just
haven't
flipped
the
switch
on,
or
is
it
something
that
the
that
the
hardware
and
software
is
simply
not
capable
of?
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
look
through
that
sensor.
Technology
feature
list.
J
Sorry
blip
there
can
you
still
see
my
screen.
J
Good,
it
also
breaks
down
by
the
by
the
phases
of
the
project
which
which
features
are
are
in
what
phase
of
development.
So
it
kind
of
gives
you
a
sense
in
the
public
sense
of
what's
active
right
now
and
what's
going
to
be
active
in
the
near
future.
And
then
the
george
mason
university
data
analysis
statement
of
work
that.
E
J
Yeah
moves
closer
to
my
access
point.
Thank
you
sure.
J
I'm
a
lot
of
gary.
Could
you
mute.
J
So
that
gives
you
a
lot
of
the
detail
about
the
scope
of
work
and
the
privacy
restrictions
that
have
been
put
into
place,
but
for
the
george
george
mason,
which
is
a
project
partner
with
the
county
who
are
doing
some
of
the
data
analysis
and
what
what
specifically
analysis
they're
doing
and
for
what?
What
purposes?
J
So
a
lot
of
additional
information
has
been
posted.
The
project
website
that's
available,
so
I
think
that's
an
important
update.
The
other
thing
that
we
did
is
we
went
through
a
the
nist
privacy
framework
for
the
at
the
project
level,
and
I
took
a
screen
cap
here
and
I
also
I
also
sent
out
a
blank
copy,
so
you
can
go
through
and
look
at
every
single
function,
category
and
sub
category.
J
That's
in
the
framework,
if
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it
already,
and
the
initial
assessment
was
conducted
by
the
commonwealth
cyber
initiative
team
out
of
virginia
tech.
J
These
are
these,
are
you
know,
phd's
professors
in
in
systems
engineering
who
are
are
a
resource
to
the
project
as
a
result
of
funding
coming
out
of
the
out
of
the
state
at
the
commonwealth
government,
and
so
they
worked
really
behind
the
scenes,
with
the
county
staff
having
access
to
information
that
that
is
not
publicly
available
to
do
an
initial
assessment.
J
Jackie
and
I
then
went
and
provided
feedback
on
each
one
of
these
items
which
they
incorporated
into
their
assessment,
and
so
I
think,
at
the
project
level,
one
of
the
things
and
jackie
I'll
ask
you
to
comment
here
that
we
saw
was
that
at
the
project
level,
most
of
the
risks
were
controlled,
where
we
saw
most
of
the
risks
coming
from
that
needed
to
be
addressed
was
from
the
organizational
level
right,
the
lack
of
the
organizational
privacy
policy
and
and
and
some
of
the
things
that
that
should
be
inherited
by
a
project
from
organizational
level
concepts
and
obviously
for
cyber
security.
J
F
F
We
were
informed
that
there
isn't
a
mapping
of
the
systems
that
would
allow
you
to
see
where
they
intersect
with
others,
and
that
was
one
of
our
major
concerns,
so
that
came
a
high
risk
and
then
the
other
one
is
that
you
can't
see
where
the
incoming
data
gets
aggregated
with
other
data
and
what
the
safety
or
security
measures
are
for
when
they're
integrated,
but
also
for
those
other
data
systems
that
are
being
integrated.
So,
yes,
it
it.
J
Yeah
and
from
from
my
perspective
right,
the
issues
of
of
privacy
and
aggregation
or
classification
of
of
data
in
specific
or
an
aggregation
is
a
a
problem
and
a
challenge
across
the
entire
I.t
domain
right.
So
it's
not
unique
to
this
project.
But
again
it's
one
of
those
things
where
we
saw
that
because
the
the
county
had
doesn't
have
resources
to
address
it.
It's
it's
a
it's
going
to
be
a
risk
for
any
of
our
projects,
so.
F
F
Cup
for
mike's
comment,
just
one
other
edition
for
mike's
comment:
does
the
county
share
data?
This
is
why
it's
hard
to
answer
that
question.
It's
because
you
might
have
a
stream
of
data
coming
in
like
the
project
that
we're
talking
about,
but
once
it
gets
integrated
with
other
data,
then
you're
not
able
to
map
where
else
it
might
go.
J
That's
right,
but
just
to
you
know,
provide
everyone.
The
the
awareness
that
we
did
go
through
this
assessment,
which
I
think
is
a
a
best
practice
and
and
should
be
something
that
is
happening
more
frequently
on
on
all
sorts
of
projects
which
leads
to
the
coming
soon
section
the
data
we
were
supposed
to
take
a
look
at
it
at
our
last
meeting,
but
we
actually
canceled
that,
because
the
data
wasn't
quite
ready.
The
panel
report
on
phase
one
actually
the
first
draft
crossed
into
my
inbox
today.
J
J
If
not,
the
entire
thing
will
be
made
available
to
the
public,
and
I
intend
to
bring
that
content
to
the
extent
that
it's
possible
to
the
to
the
tech
commission
before
publication
and
to
the
extent
that
it's
not
after
publication,
but
making
sure
that
I,
that
we
have
the
opportunity
as
a
commission,
to
opine
on
on
this
project
or
on
this
on
this
report.
J
Generally
speaking,
in
our
independent
capacity
and
then
phase
two
and
phase
three
features,
we
got
noticed
that
the
phase
two
feature
for
being
able
to
identify
jaywalking
and
some
dashboard
improvements.
The
internal
dashboard
improvements
was
scheduled
to
be
delivered
on
february
6th,
so
that
should
have
already
been
into
place
and
then
phase
three
is
the
planning
is
underway
and
we
don't
have
a
date
for
the
implementation
of
phase
three
features.
Quite
yet,
so
that's
the
update
trying
to
keep
it
short
and
sweet
and
I'll
switch
back
over
and
see.
B
K
J
So
they're
they're
releasing
a
feature
so
that
the
sensors
can
detect
jaywalking.
I
don't
know
the
the
thought
behind
what
they're
gonna
do
with
that
data.
Andrea.
I
J
But
the
idea
is
that
essentially,
the
sensor
detects
you
know
light
and
using
the
signals
from
that
light
can
classify
image
objects
as
diff
various
different
things,
using
artificial
intelligence
and
so
they're
they've
looked
at
pedestrian
safety,
they've
looked
at
vehicle
safety.
J
I
think
you
know
frankly,
and
I've
said
this
in
other
forms
and
I'll
say
it
again
here.
I
think
the
privacy
aspects
of
this
project
are
the
strongest
pieces
of
it.
I
think
the
I
think
the
the
benefit
the
value
of
the
project
to
the
community
and
why
this
project
over
another
potential
project
is
the
areas
where
I
have.
I
have
more
concerns,
but
that's
not
from
the
privacy
oversight
panel
perspective.
J
That's
more
from
the
the
general
tech
commission
perspective
in
our
our
previous
discussions
about
improving
the
kind
of
the
the
capital
planning
and
investment
control
process
on
it,
projects
across
the
county,
so
that
that
is
the
feature.
The
features
is
going
to
be
able
purportedly
to
be
able
to
detect
jaywalking
versus
someone
who's
crossing
in
a
in
a
crosswalk.
K
K
That
they
will
let
like
it'll,
be
demonstrated
before
they
actually
go
like
hot
with
it
I
mean.
Will
people
get
to?
I
don't
know
if
not
not
really
sample
it,
but
will
they
be
able
to?
You
know,
experience
it
before
it.
You
know
like
a
pilot.
J
Some
people,
but
not
the
general
public,
is
my
understanding,
and
this
has
been
another
one
of
the
concerns
that
I've
raised
about
this
project
again
from
the
tech
commission
perspective
is
what
are
we
using
these
these
data?
For
what
decisions
are
we
making
on
them?
J
How
do
we
know
that
we
can
trust
the
data
to
actually
reflect
what
the
data
say
right,
because
it's
an
a
it's
a
it's,
an
artificial
intelligence
algorithm,
it's
a
black
box
to
some
extent,
and
so
so
those
types
of
concerns,
I
think,
are
are
ones
that
I
share.
H
Well
I'll
try
to
be
humorous
to
start,
I'm
I'm
randomly
in
clarendon
quite
frequently,
and
a
spoiler
alert
you'll
find
jay
walker's
there
all
over
the
place
every
time
a
day
every
day
of
the
week.
What
you
want
to
do
with
that
information
is
still
a
valid
question,
but
I
hate
to
ruin
it
for
the
data
analysts,
but
I
will
say-
and
this
is
almost
a
rhetorical
question
john-
I
used
to
work
within
this
guidance
in
my
job
and
perhaps
others
on
this
line
did
too.
J
Well,
you
know
mike
I'm
a
risk
manager.
I
don't
think
risk
management
has
a
good
stop
and
start
time.
I
think
it's
something
that
you
should
be
doing
all
the
time,
so
I'm
glad
we're
doing
it
now,
but
I
would
concur
that.
Ideally,
you
would
want
to
assess
risks
in
during
project
formulation
and
design.
Yeah.
H
And
I
don't
mean
to
say
you
have
to
stop
assessing
risk,
but
boy,
it's
weird
to
only
begin
after
you've
decided
to
launch
and
that
question
it
raises
the
questions
in
my
mind.
What
is
the
motivation
you
know
to
lie
so
quickly?
The
other
thing-
and
this
is
a
bit
of
an
analogy
for
me-
usually
there's
something
like
a
maturity
model
that
someone
has
developed.
Certainly,
that
was
true
for
software
development.
I
think
it's
true
for
cyber
security.
H
Is
anybody
out
there
offering
like
a
maturity
model
assessment
around
privacy?
It
seems
very
doable
to
me,
especially
with
all
the
groundwork
nist
has
done,
and
even
if
there
isn't
am
I
making
the
correct
difference
that
arlington
would
be
level
zero
and
has
a
lot
of
maturation
to
do
in
its
processes
and
its
decision
making
before
it
could
have
a
privacy
prop
project
program.
J
So
the
nist
framework
itself
does
include
the
the
steps
of
assessing
your
current
state,
choosing
a
target
state
and
then
moving
towards
that
target
state
right.
It
provides
those
toolkits,
so
the
nist
framework
could
be
used
for
the
the
privacy
assessment
and
resource
allocation
type
activities
to
inform
those
that
you're
talking
about,
and
I
would
say
that
no,
we
are
not
at
level
zero.
I
think
it
depends
upon.
J
If
you
go
through
the
the
framework
and
you
look
at
the
different,
you
look
at
the
different
functions
and
categories
and
then
subcategories
many
of
them
are.
I
I
found
to
be
good.
I
found
this
to
be
in
a
good
place.
Many
of
them
I
found
us
to
not
be
in
a
good
place,
so
I
think
it
really
is
the
devil's
in
the
details,
but
I
would
absolutely
not
say
that
we're
at
zero.
B
Yeah
john
in
in
phase
three:
is
it
your
understanding
that
that's
where
the
task
force
will
go
back
to
the
board
and
request
the
board's
approval
to
operationalize.
J
B
J
I
don't
believe
that
the
county
government
at
this
current
moment
believes
that
they
need
any
other
board
action
to
make
operational
decisions
based
on
the
data.
I
think
they
feel
that
they
have
the
delegated
authority
from
the
original
board
approval
to
to
make
operational
changes
as
a
result
of
this
technology.
J
I
think
the
next
opportunity
that
the
board
is
going
to
have
for
an
action
is
the
report,
and
I
think
I
don't.
I
don't
know
what
happens
after
that.
I
think
the
next
phase
would
be
pilot
completion
and
a
decision
to
either
continue
on
and
keep
the
sensors
up
or
pull
them
down
would
be
my,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
that
has
been
fleshed
out
specifically,
but
in
terms
of
do
we
incorporate
these
data
into
our
dispatch
decisions.
J
B
F
B
F
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
say
the
the
major
point.
I
think
change
point
or
assessment
point
is
the
completion
of
the
pilot
and
they
would
need
to
go
back
to
the
board
because
if
they
wanted
to
expand
it
in
any
way
and
use
it
beyond
this
one
pilot
location,
that
would
be
a
significant
budget
impact
that
has
not
been
discussed,
or
even
I
mean
all
of
the
information
on
the
cost
of
this
is
really
only
accurate
for
the
pilot.
It's
not
accurate
for
any
kind
of
broader
implementation.
B
Okay,
and
is
it
your
john,
is
it
your
understanding
that
you
all
will
be
brief
when
you're
briefed
on
the
data
that
you
will
be
briefed
on
how
the
data
has
impacted
within
the
confines
of
the
pilot,
but
assisted
decision
making
is
that
is
that
something
that
you
believe
will
be
included
in
addition
to
just
showing
you
what
data
has
been
collected?
B
J
Yeah,
I
I
don't
know
at
this
point
mary
to
be
honest
with
you.
I
don't
know.
Okay,
I'm
anxiously
and
I'm
anxiously
awaiting
seeing
seeing
the
data.
J
And
and
and
mary
to
to
put
a
fine
point
on
it,
the
scope
of
the
privacy
governance
board
is
not
inclusive
of
that
type
of
decision
making.
So
I
think
one
of
the
things
for
us
to
remember
is
that
the
governance
board-
the
privacy
governance
board
is
often
pointed
to
as
a
cure-all.
For
some
of
these
other
questions
that
are
not
privacy
questions
and
it
is
not
in
the
scope
of
that
governance
board.
J
I
think
it
is
within
the
scope
of
this,
this
commission
and
the
emergency
preparedness
advisory
commission
to
opine
on
those
other
topics
or
request
information
about
them.
B
Right
right,
the
the
the
fine
okay
got
it,
and,
and
so
we
will
so
you
will.
You
will
update
us
as
as
we
as
we
move
forward,
and
your
sense
is
that
the
draft
report
will
be
ready
in
april.
J
I
well
like
it
crossed
my
the
first
draft
crossed
my
inbox
this
the
today
and
I
haven't,
had
a
chance
to
read
it
yet
so
we
do
have
a
our
next
meeting
coming
up,
which
is
scheduled
for
the
ninth
of
march,
so
hopefully
we'll
be
discussing
it
there,
and
maybe
we
might
have
a
chance
to
look
at
some
of
the
data.
B
One,
this
really
is
the
final
question
for
me
on
this
on
this
topic.
For
now
is
the
nist
framework,
since
it
is,
it
looks
like
it
has
served
the
oversight
panel.
Well,
is
that
being
used
in
other
parts
of
the
county?
Right
now
I
mean:
has
there
been
a
recommendation
to
your
knowledge
or
a
is
it?
Is
it
being
circulated
and
scaled
anywhere,
because,
obviously
that's
something
that
if
it's
done
it's
it's
it's
gone
well
within
the
confines
of
this
pilot,
it's
learned,
they've.
The
the
task
force
has
learned
that
much.
I'm.
J
I
don't
know
that
it
is.
I
don't
know
that
it
isn't.
My
sense,
if
I
had
to
speculate
is
that
the
privacy
impact
assessment,
the
nist
assessment,
are,
are
not
common
practices
across
the
county
government.
At
this
time,.
B
I
J
My
my
sense
is
that
they
are
using
this
project
to
prototype
some
of
these.
Some
of
these
activities
as
a
way
to
you,
know
smooth
off
the
rough
edges
and
and
make
recommendations
for
broader
implementation.
B
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you
great
well,
thank
you,
john
appreciate
it
and.
G
B
We
really
we
we
look
forward
to
to
the
next
to
the
next
briefing
appreciate
it
frank
legislative,
update.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
mary,
the
environmental
protection
agency,
in
collaboration
with
the
cyber
security
and
infrastructure
security
agency,
is
extending
an
initiative
to
improve
the
cyber
security
of
industrial
control
systems
to
the
water
sector,
which
is
encouraging.
Since
we
know
in
the
past
there
have
been
some
issues
in
the
water
sector
on
that
front.
So
that's
a
purging
development.
C
The
fcc
fcc
chairwoman,
jessica,
rosenwarsso,
has
proposed
to
require
callers
to
obtain
consumer's
consent
before
delivering
a
ringless
voicemail
a
message
left
in
their
mailbox
without
ringing
their
phone.
So
that's
again
on
the
ongoing
robocall
battles.
C
This
next
item,
thanks
to
jackie
for
highlighting
it
10
digit
dialing
telephone
call,
dialing-
will
be
required.
Nationwide
means
you
have
to
put
in
your
area
code
on
july
15th
of
this
the
year.
It
has
been
required
in
our
region
for
quite
some
time,
but
the
rest
of
the
nation
will
get
to
do
all
that
dialing.
This
transition
is
being
made
in
conjunction
with
the
establishment
of
988
as
a
nationwide
three-digit
national
suicide
prevention
lifeline
which
will
connect
callers
to
suicide
prevention
and
mental
health
crisis.
Counselors.
C
The
faa
administrator,
steve
dixon
testified
before
the
house
committee
on
transportation
that
5g
and
aviation
can
safely
coexist,
which
is
good
to
hear
faa
is
in
a
better
place.
He
said
than
they
were
in
january.
Having
received
detailed
data
from
verizon
and
at
t,
the
fcc
has
formed
a
cross-agency
task
force
to
create
rules
and
policies
to
combat
digital
discrimination
and
to
promote
equal
access
to
broadband
across
the
country,
regardless
of
zip
code,
income
level,
ethnicity,
race,
religion
or
national
origin.
C
The
interim
and
final
rule
said
that
arp
funded
projects
must
reliably
reliably
meet
or
exceed
symmetrical
100
mbps
down
and
up,
or
at
least
100
down
and
20
up,
where
symmetrical
speeds
are
not
practicable
because
of
excessive
cost
or
geogra
geography
of
the
area,
so
that,
if
that
rule
has
changed
that
could
have
an
impact
locally.
C
As
far
as
efforts
to
have
a
a
broadband
a
broadband
authority,
an
sec
proposal
previously
reported
on
a
broadband
choice
for
multi-tenant
environments
has
been
adopted.
The
new
rules
prohibit
providers
and
drawing
owners
from
having
exclusive
revenue
sharing
agreements,
and
would
the
new
rule
would
require
broadband
providers
to
let
tenants
know
in
plain
language
if
if
there
is
an
exclusive
marketing
agreement
between
building
owners
and
and
the
broadband
providers,
however,
such
agreements
are
not
prohibited.
C
The
fcc
also
clarified
that
existing
cable
inside
wiring
rules
prohibit
sale
and
lease
back
arrangements
that
block
access
to
competitive
offerings,
and
just
this
week
the
fcc
is
proposing
a
45
million
dollar
forfeiture
refined
against
a
robocaller
seeking
to
sell
health
insurance
during
the
pandemic
without
caller's
consent,
so
very
large
penalty
again
on
the
ongoing
robo
robocolor
warriors.
C
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Jackie
has
a
question,
I
think
frank
yeah.
F
Yes,
in
the
news
today,
and
probably
more
so
going
on,
is
the
phase
out
of
3g
and
the
impact
that
the
phase
out
of
3g
is
having,
and
I
did
look
up
on
the
fcc
to
see
what,
if
there
was
anything
related
to
that
that
they
were
up
to
and
they
have
a
petition
from
aarp
and
the
home
alarm
system
industry
asking
them
to
delay
this
implementation
so
that
they're
able
to
identify
and
properly
transfer
what
aarp
believes
is
a
significant
number
of
elderly
who
have
their
phones
or
their
alarm
systems
or
their.
F
You
know,
call
buttons
on
3g
and
don't
know
that
they're
about
to
be
cut
off.
So
I
don't
know.
I
just
martha,
actually
called
this
to
my
attention,
martha
moore
and
she
asked
me
if
I
could
bring
it
up
and
because
we're
concerned
that
if
this
is
the
case,
if
there
are
a
lot
in
arlington
that
are
on
this,
it
may
be
something
that
is
an
issue
where
communication
about
what
to
do
or
how
to
know
whether
you're
impacted
and
things
like
that
may
be
important
public
communication.
C
F
Well,
the
only
one
that
stopped
this
month
is
a
t
and
verizon
is
not
until
june.
So
I
don't
know
you
know
what
the
and
I
think
some
of
the
others
are
like
december
and
one
is
even
like
january
of
2023,
but
I
still
think
we
may
want
to.
F
I
don't
know
what
the
level
of
potential
impact
is
here
in
arlington,
but
it
may
be
something
where
we
need
to
do
something
proactive
at
least
make
sure
that
that
the
county
is
aware
of
it
and
and
maybe
the
agency
you
know
our
commission
on
aging
and
and
and
so
on,
to
ask
them
if
they're,
aware
of
it
or
if
they're,
working
with
aarp,
I
don't
know
what
the
solution
is,
but
certainly,
if
it's
not,
if
it's
not
delayed,
then
we
need
to
make
sure
we
have
a
program
that
identifies
people
who
are
depending
on
communication,
that's
about
to
be
shut
down.
F
B
And
luis
will
come
to
you
after
mike
just
want
to
ask
you
what,
if
there's
any
any
light
you
can
shed
on
this
from
verizon's
point
of
view
mike
you're
next
mary.
B
D
No,
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
track
it
down,
but
that's
I'm
not
3g
conversant.
So
I
can.
I
can
give
you
a
very
authoritative
sounding
answer.
That
would
be
wrong.
I'm
happy
to
do
that,
but
I
know
I'm
happy
to
check
on
that
with
our
government
affairs
folks.
Oh.
H
Frank,
I'm
curious
if
you
have
any
odds
making
to
offer
about
the
federal
government
actually
passing
privacy
related
legislation,
digital
privacy,
related
legislation-
and
I-
and
I
just
want
to
mention
that
I
did
send
an
article
to
folks
and
whether
you
agree
with
it
or
not.
H
You
know
we've
sort
of
put
it
forward,
mostly
as
a
is
it
a
human
right
or
a
property
right
issue,
but
but
arlington
is
already
attentive
to
issues
of
equity
and
and
this
the
article
I
thought,
was
a
reasonable
representation
of
the
possibility
that
digital
privacy
will
become
an
equity
issue.
If
we
don't
get
ahead
of
it,
because
people
with
the
money
to
buy
the
privacy
will
buy
it
and
people
without
the
money
to
buy
it
will
have
to
live
without
it
and
I'm
not
sure,
that's
an
outcome.
C
Surprisingly,
the
need
for
or
privacy
is
a
fairly
bipartisan
issue.
So,
if
you
know,
if
there
is
a
we
will
among
leadership
to
to
move
and
in
this
current
environment,
it
seems
like
there
are
a
lot
of
other
priorities
ahead
of
data
privacy,
but
if
we
got
back
to
regular
order,
which
probably
not
not
in
this
lifetime-
but
I
I
it
it
does
seem
like
it
has
actually
a
pretty
good
chance
of
moving.
Should
we,
you
know,
get
past
some
of
the
current
issues,
because
it
is
a
has
bipartisan
support.
C
John
leibowitz,
who
was
head
of
the
ftc
federal
trade
commission,
had
a
good
good
piece
in
the
wall
street
journal
earlier
this
month,
basically
outlining
the
need
and
said,
given
you
know,
given
the
europeans
are
have
already
moved
on
this
and
given
the
importance
of
tech
industries
to
our
our
economy,
he
outlined
you
know
a
how
how
congress
can
move
to
you
know
protect
the
data,
so
it
was
a
good
piece.
I
recommend
john
leibowitz.
C
C
B
Okay,
all
right
all
right!
Well,
thanks
thanks,
frank
and
we'll
we'll
we
could
send
around
that
link,
frank,
probably
the
wall
street.
The
leeward
side
would
be
good,
yeah.
A
B
Be
good,
and
it
also
reminds
me
I
want
to
send
around
the
smart
city
article
as
well.
F
Yes,
to
follow
up
on
the
3g.
Is
that
something
you
can
just
mention
to
staff?
Or
would
you
talk
to
your
colleague
at
commission
on
aging,
I'm
not
sure
what
to
do
with
it,
and
you
know
I
didn't
have
any
motion
or
anything,
but
I
would
like
to
at
least
make
sure
that
staff
are
aware-
and
I
guess
that
they
have
some
plan
to
be
addressed.
B
I'll
reach
out
to
the
my
counterpart
for
the
commission
on
aging
and
then
also
we'll
we'll
just
make
sure
the
county
has
is
just
flag
it
and
make
sure
that
they
have
some
understanding
that
this
is
also.
I
think
my
my
assumption
is
that
the
you
know
also
the
device
people
know
right.
I
mean
more
than
you
know
what.
D
B
F
B
C
B
C
Would
think
most
of
the
most
of
those
products
are,
you
know,
subscription
based
and
that
the
right
providers
would
be
letting
their
customers
know
that
you
know
if
presumably
they're
also
trying
either
saying
it's
gonna?
Let
them
know
it's
either
gonna
end
or
we've
got
this
new
spectrum
we're
to
use
which,
probably
in
many
instances
may
require
new
devices.
I'm
guessing.
B
C
B
B
Oh
exactly
exactly
so
next
is
chair
update.
There
were
just
a
couple
of
things.
B
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
were
aware
of
and
speaking
of
other
commissioners,
there
was
a
commission
chair
meeting
the
end
of
january
that
the
chair
of
the
board
katie
chaired
and
then
really
it
was
just
an
opportunity
for
the
commission
chairs
to
come
together
and
talk
about
how
best
practices
could
be
shared
and
also
they
briefed
us
on
something
that
you
all
may
have
seen
I'll
get
the
I'll
get
they're
going
to
send
out
the
link
about
virtual
meetings,
because
now,
once
the
emergency
has
been
declared
is
over,
there
will
it'll
probably
be
four
weeks
from
that.
B
B
So
we
will
be
once
that
emergency
changes
once
the
status
changes.
Then
obviously
we'll
we'll
keep
you
posted,
but
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
heads
up
as
we.
B
By
and
large,
we
said
we
have
better
participation
virtually
and
we
think
it's
easier
for
people
to
participate
virtually,
so
we
actually
think
it's
better
access
and
we've
had
you
know.
We've
had
good
discussions
and
all
those
things
so
so
they
certainly
got
the
message
that
this
is
something
that
is,
you
know
that
we
think
is
valuable
and
that
we
wanted
that
option.
So
there's
that
that's
where
that's
where
it
is
at
this
point
that
it
would
be
a
25
option.
J
So
it's
not
just
about
us,
although
that's
great
too,
but
if
we're
really
trying
to
expand
engagement
and
community
engagement
and
bring
down
barriers
to
community
engagement
to
all
segments
of
our
community.
This
is
a
method.
So,
even
if
we're
meeting
in
person,
I
would
advocate
for
the
for
the
provision
of
remote
participation
from
members
of
the
public
to
join
even
our
in-person
meetings.
B
Yeah
and
that's
one
of
the
things
we
ask
in
terms
of
are
the
are
the
meeting
rooms
set
up
for
members
to
not
only
commission
members
but
the
public
to
engage
virtually
because
there
are
some
who
may
not
be
able
to
attend
and
we
want.
You
know
we
want
to
give
them
that
option
so
so
that
john,
we
definitely
made
that
that
request
and
so
they're
checking
on
that.
In
terms
of
what
the
you
know,
what
the
capability
is
jackie,
I
think
you're
next
and
then
mike.
F
Yeah
that
that
was
sort
of
my
question
is:
will
it
be
possible
to
have
hybrid
meetings
and
and
to
have
some
exception
if
people
aren't
able
to
attend
in
person,
I'm
I'm
losing
my
night
vision.
F
So
the
amount
of
time
when
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
continue
to
drive
to
a
location
at
night
for
a
meeting
is
limited.
I
mean
you
know,
maybe
after
cataract
surgery
and
all
that
it'll
come
back.
But
you
know
I
don't.
This
is
tbd,
so
I
would
think
that
there
there's
a
real
value
in
and
for
actually
a
wide
range
of
people
who
won't
be
able
to
attend
meetings
and
can
do
them
virtually
so
maybe
a
hybrid
model
would
be
possible
they're
hard
to
run.
F
I
mean
I
don't
know,
but
probably
you
guys
have
done
this
I've
in
the
past
did
a
lot
of.
I
did
do
a
lot
of
hybrid
meetings
because
fema
had
people
all
across
everywhere,
but
but
it
takes
good
technology
to
do
that,
and
also
you
almost
have
to
have
someone
dedicated
to
managing
your
remote
participants,
that's
different
from
who's,
managing
your
your
in-person
participants.
Otherwise
you
lose
them
so.
H
Yeah
I
want
to
second
those
comments,
especially
about
public
engagement
and
and
one
way
to
demonstrate
an
interest
in
public
engagement
would
be
to
actually
have,
for
instance,
an
800
help
line
that
citizens
could
call
to
say.
I
want
to
test
my
equipment
to
see
if
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
participate
in
this
video
conferencing
technology
and
actually
have
sort
of
a
welcoming
assistance
that
they
can
do
so
not
sort
of
like
you
can
do
so.
If
you
can
figure
this
out
on
your
own,
but
really
a
truly
welcoming
posture.
J
Yes,
just
to
follow
up,
I
think,
if
it's
not
already
authorized
by
the
law
that
was
passed,
we
should
put
this
on
our
legislative
agenda
next
time.
It
comes
around
to
make
the
type
of
engagement
that
we're
talking
about
legal
for
these
types
of
meetings,
because
I
think
that's
one
of
the
constraints,
the
county
can't
do
things
outside
of
what
the
commonwealth
is
authorized
for.
These
public
meetings.
B
Right,
that's
right,
john,
so
that
is.
That
is
something
we'll
probably
I
we
will.
We
will
probably
be
adding
that
to
the
list.
It's
again
they've.
H
B
Correct
that's
correct.
The
the
issue
is
the
and
also
as
frank
will.
I
think
we
we
had
this
conversation
about.
Remember
we
used
to
have
people
come
in
just
on
on
telephone
right,
but
the
challenge
about
them
being
included
in
quorum
and
voting
was
also
so
so
that's
what
has
to
get
worked
out
mike.
That
is
not.
B
There
hasn't
really
been
a
clarity
that
those
are
some
of
the
questions
we
raised
because
before
the
pandemic
it
was
pretty
clear
and-
and
now
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that's
frank,
you
want
to
comment.
C
Yes,
I
was
going
to
say
you
know:
arlington
is
one
of
the
most
compact
jurisdictions
in
the
commonwealth.
I
mean
a
is:
there's
an
energy.
You
know
environmental
factor
to
not
having
all
these
people
traveling.
But
you
know
a
lot
of
the
other
jurisdictions
are
across
the
commonwealth,
a
lot
bigger.
So
you
would
think
again
that
there'd
be
a
great
advantage
to
being
able
to
do
remote
or
hybrid.
B
B
B
That's
right,
so
that's
just
one:
that's
that's
something!
Obviously
we're
gonna
we'll
be
watching
and
frank.
This
next
portion,
please
please
chime
in
frank
and
I
met
with
our
county
liaison.
Tacus
would
have
been
here
tonight,
but
he
has
a.
He
had
a
conflict.
What,
basically,
what
we?
What
we
talked
to
him
about
was
one
we
wanted
to
get
his
sense
about
the
forum,
and
you
know
he
he
found
it
really
helpful
and
is
sharing
it
with
all
of
his
his
colleagues
and
andrea
even
mentioned
you.
B
You
talked
about
wanting
the
the
powerpoints
and
also
the
staff.
There
was
a
the
next
day.
I
was
told
that
a
lot
of
staff
members
contacted
andrea,
asking
for
the
the
forum.
You
know
they
wanted
to
see
the
they
wanted
to
watch
and
see
the
link
and
see
what
was
so.
So
it
has
a
shelf
life
which
is
which
is
helpful.
B
What
we,
what
we
talked
to
talk
is
about
was
really
priorities,
and
we
just
wanted
to
talk
about
what
we
had
identified
as
as
priorities
and
see
what
you
know,
how
that
aligned
with
the
board's
priorities
and
also
in
terms
of
the
timing
in
terms
of
us,
giving
the
benefit
of
this
independent
body
giving
tacus
and
the
rest
of
his
colleagues
are
our
perspective.
B
So
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
about
that,
but
the
in
terms
of
the
number
one
priority
for
us
was
which
we
talked
about
a
little
bit
earlier,
was
the
digital
planning
right
of
having
how?
How
would
that
work,
and
conceptually,
certainly
that
makes
sense.
But
what
does
that
mean
in
terms
of
how
the
county
would
implement
and
execute
that?
So
that
was?
That
was
one
of
the
agenda
items
we
discussed
and
also,
and
certainly.
C
B
Yeah
and
mike
I
I'm
I,
I
know
you
had
done
some
stories
before,
but
do
you
get
a
sense
about
what
what
might
be
helpful?
I
think
you
might
have
some
thoughts
on
that.
H
Yeah
I
mean
when
I,
when
I
did
the
big
white
paper
right
at
the
beginning
of
pandemic.
I
tried
to
employ
what
were
called
provocative
stories.
They
would
be
like
sort
of
conversation
starters,
so
people
could
say:
oh
yeah,
here's
a
here's,
a
set
of
his
sort
of
a
story
that
would
make
you
think
about
where
the
lines
around
privacy
should
be
or
or
what
have
you.
H
So
I'm
not
sure
we've
gotten
a
ton
of
traction
on
that
I
mean
we
didn't
choose
to
use
the
privacy
ones
in
the
privacy
forum,
but
as
a
as
a
technique
of
public
engagement.
I
think
it
can
be
effective.
You
know,
because
you
give
everybody
sort
of
a
setting
and
a
in
a
short
story,
plot
line
to
get
their
uses
flowing
and
then
it's
easier
for
them
to
express
opinions
about
what
it
is
they
would
like.
I'm
not
I'm.
H
B
Yeah
thanks
thanks
mike
yeah,
so
I
think
that's
that's.
Certainly
one
thing
he's
he's
relying
on
us
on
he's
he's
pleased
that
we're
cyber
is
one
of
our
priorities
and,
of
course,
you've
seen
what's
happened
this
week
and
jack
and
his
team
are
very
busy
this
week
dealing
with
you
know
the
increased
attention
the
world,
the
the
virtual
world
is
getting,
and
then
the
other
thing
around.
B
Cyber
that
frank
and
I
talked
about
we
had
talked
about
last
time
we
met-
was
the
importance
of
having
an
understanding
of
what
the
decision
making
would
be
around
a
cyber
incident
in
addition
to
the
technical
capability,
but
also
the
the
decision-making
and
takas
again,
you
know
agreed
with
us
and
also
is
looking
at
what
the
council
government,
what
if
they
did,
a
regional
decision-making
exercise
around
that
he
thought
it
would
be
really
helpful.
B
B
Our
five
members
actually
walking
through
an
exercise
to
think
about
where
their
decision
boundaries
are
and
what
questions
they
think
are
important
to
ask
so
that
they're,
not
that
you
know
that
they
rehearse
rather
than
having
to
go,
go
live
broadway
in
in
the
in
the
spotlight
before
they've
had
an
opportunity
to
think
through
some
of
these
some
of
these
issues.
B
B
He
really
would
like
us
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
see
what
what
we
think
kind
of
comments
we
have
around
that
and,
of
course,
that's
a
pretty
big
for
those
of
you
who
have
ever
looked
at
that.
It's
a
pretty
big
big
arena,
but
there
are
some
really
interesting
things
going
on
in
that
arena.
So
so
that
was
one
of
the
things
he
mentioned
as
a
as
a
forum
topic,
and
we
wanted
to
share
that
with
you
frank
any
any.
What
what
did
I
miss.
B
Oh
yes,
yes,
we
also
brought
up
the
survey
which
michael
cornfield
we
had
talked
about.
That
is
a
you
know,
as
a
follow-up
to
the
the
privacy
forum
and
and
talk
is
his
perspective
is
really
that
that's
a
civic
federation,
civic
engagement
role
and
not
our
role,
and
so
that's
you
know,
that's.
That
was
where
the
lanes
were
drawn
so
we'll
we
will,
we
will
stay
in
our
lane
and
and
the
civic
federation
is
doing
some
engagement
in
terms
of
surveys
that
I'm
aware
of
jackie.
F
Okay,
well,
I
will
actually
take
that
back
and
look
at
it.
What
we
have
coming
up
for
our
march
meeting
is
actually
a
reaction,
a
different
sort
of
reaction
to
the
forum,
which
was
we
got.
We
heard
from
people
who
said
well,
I
want
to
know
what
I
can
do
about
it.
F
So
yes,
so-
and
this
is
this-
is
not
my
committee-
it's
it's
actually
our
legislative
committee,
partly
because
of
who's
on
it
and
civil
rights
committee
anyway,
they're
sponsoring
someone
who's
going
to
come
in
and
talk
about
actions.
Individuals
can
take
to
protect
their
privacy
and
some
of
the
things
that
they
should
look
for.
I
I
don't
know
you
know
it's
very
hard.
F
Having
done
the
fema
guidance
on
this,
it's
very
hard
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
scope
that
I
mean
where,
on
what
the
level
of
understanding
is
that
you
try
to
aim
for
when
you're
trying
to
deal
with
the
general
public
on
what
they
can.
Do
I
mean
they
were.
This
was
I
don't
know
maybe
five
years
ago
that
I
was
doing
this,
but
you
know
recommending
to
the
general
public
that
they
all
get.
Vpns
was
one
of
the
things
people
debated
it's
like
well,
you
know
at
that
point.
F
F
F
The
meeting
starts
at
seven
o'clock.
I
don't
know
whether
this
is
first
second
or
you
know,
whatever
you
know
time
frame
it
is,
but
the
meeting
starts
at
seven.
You
should
go
on
the
sip,
fed
site
and
register
in
advance,
because
then
it's
easier
to
just
log
on
than
it
otherwise
is
they
have
to
track,
who
can
vote
and
who
can't?
F
So
that's
why
you
have
to
have
a
pre-registration,
but
that's
what
they're
doing
and
we
did
not
have
a
if,
if
you,
if
anyone
on
the
commission
has
any
ideas
about
what
they
think
would
be
valuable
in
a
survey.
F
If
you
shoot
me
a
line
I'll,
you
know
think
about
it
and
think
whether
it's
something
we
can
take
on,
we've
got
a
lot
on
our
plate
right
now.
The
other
thing
we're
doing
is
the
marcus
alert
which
you
mentioned
988,
but
the
you
know
the
marcus
alert
planning
of
crisis
response
for
mental
health
is
also
I
mean
it
seems
completely
separate
from
this.
But
that's
that's.
What
I'm
doing
is
a
panel
on
that.
So.
B
H
What
is
the
county
doing
or
not
doing
you
know,
and
and
do
we
need
to
be
doing
more
at
the
county
level?
I
suspect
we
could
all
be
doing
more,
but
I'm
a
little
nonplussed
by
turning
it
into
a
conversation
about
self-sufficiency
instead
of
about
data
privacy
in
the
in
arlington
county
government,
yeah,
that's
more
of
an
editorial.
B
I
G
H
I'd
say
even
if
we
get
wind,
that
virginia
is
taking
up
privacy
legislation
we'd
like
to
start
thinking
about
privacy
from
the
perspective
that
the
state
is
doing
and
what
it's
doing
for
the
county,
so
some
alert
to
like
whatever
their
workload
is
anything
that's
I.t.
I
very
much
appreciate
the
camaraderie
of
them
saying
this
is
coming
up.
H
We
want
you
to
participate
as
opposed
to
here's
what
we
did
and
what
do
you
think
you
think
it's
okay.
B
Right
right,
no,
we
did
talk
about
that
process
and
sequence
mike,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
we
yeah.
We,
we
think
that's
and
he's
very
aware
and
tuned
to
that
and
really
wants
to
shift
that
as
much
as
possible.
So
thank
you.
That's
that's
another
endorsement
from
let's
get
this
sequence,
so
we
can
be
as
helpful
as
possible.
Right
I
mean
that's,
that's
our
role!
B
That's
why
all
of
you
are
volunteering,
your
valuable
time
to
do
it
next
on
the
on
the
list
is
the
the
budget
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
been
through
this
before
what
happens?
Is
the
the
county
manager
does
recommend
the
budget?
And
I
you
know
we
sent
you
a
copy
of
the
the
link
to
that
900,
page
budget
and
there's
about
11
or
12
pages.
B
That's
the
dts
budget
and
all
of
the
commissions
from
march
1,
until
about
march
12th,
somewhere
around
there
present
to
the
to
the
county
board
in
terms
and
make
comments
about
the
budget
for
their
particular
department
that
they
liaise
with.
So
obviously
our
our
group
is
is
dts
the
department
of
technology
services
and
wanted
the
to
just
give
you
an
idea
of
what
the
looking
at
it.
B
In
terms
of
from
from
that
point
of
view,
what
jack
you
know
belcher
the
cio
emphasized
he
was
not
able
to
be
here,
but
what
he
said
is
you
know
that
we
I'm
just
reading
it?
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
paraphrasing.
We
continue
to
strive
to
achieve
resiliency
and
growth
cloud.
Smart
migration
and
security
of
data
and
applications
that
support
the
business
of
the
county
continue
to
be
our
priorities.
B
B
You
know
their
focus
and
and
support
in
terms
of
what
they're,
what
they're
looking
at
for
this
year's
budget
and
and
what
we,
what
we
do
is
have
we
make
comments
about
about
that
budget
and
the
frank,
and
I
will
we're
not
sure
if
we're
doing
it
virtually
or
face
to
face
yet,
but
the
10th
of
march,
we
will
will
be
making
comments
in
front
of
the
board,
but
we
usually
assemble
virtually
a
letter
that
all
of
us
have
input
on
about
what
comments
we
want
to
make
about
the
budget
mike.
B
Budget,
no,
that
was
an
old
hand.
Okay,
all
right
so
john
and
then
jackie.
J
So
I
think
you
know,
in
alignment
with
the
board
priorities
in
helping
to
explain
to
talk
as
colleagues
the
why
this
is
important
and
why
it's
valuable.
I
think
we
should
take
the
opportunity
of
the
budget
cycle
to
point
out
some
problems
that
we
have
when
it
comes
to
rendering
policy
advice.
Specifically,
the
fact
that
we
can't
see
what
the
I
t
spend
is
across
the
enterprise.
We
should
not,
in
my
view,
be
limited
to
commenting
on
dts's
budget
as
a
department.
G
J
And
we
know
there's
a
lot
of
I.t
spend
across
the
other
departments
that
is
completely
inscrutable
to
the
public.
J
We
don't
know
if
it's
aligned
to
the
strategic
priorities
of
the
government,
we
don't
know
if
it's
performing
well,
we
don't
know
how
much
it
is.
We
don't
know
the
overall
you
know
spend
from
from
a
percentage
of
the
of
the
general
budget
and
whether
it's
in
line
with
with
other
large
organizations
benchmark.
J
So
this
goes
to
recommendation
one
from
the
set
of
recommendations
that
we
set
for
the
comprehensive
planning
element,
which
is
the
adoption
of
I.t
investment
management,
has
the
guiding
principle
for
how
the
county
government
manages
its
I.t
spend.
J
And
so
I
think
we
should
take
the
opportunity
of
the
budget
to
point
out
that
it's
impossible
for
us
to
to
really
opine
with
any
sort
of
information
on
the
I.t
spend
of
of
the
county,
because
the
county
has
not
adopted
this
this
approach
and
that
we,
our
recommendation,
is
that
they
adopt
that
approach.
Number
two,
I
think,
as
a
result
of
the
privacy
conversations
and
the
oversight
governance
board.
J
My
second
recommendation
would
be
to
adopt
the
nist
privacy
framework
and
direct
the
county
manager
to
prepare
a
privacy
program
for
the
county
government
writ
large
that
is
funded
and
resourced
to
assess
our
current
state
select
a
target
privacy
profile
from
this
framework
that
we
want
to
accomplish,
and
then
the
resources
needed
to
accomplish
that
profile
over
some
period
of
time
as
part
of
the
capital
improvement
plan
or
or
the
general
operating
budget.
J
So
I
think
those
two
big
things
which
come
directly
from
the
recommendations
that
we've
already
made
will
help
break
this
problem
down.
I
think
the
the
challenge
for
the
electeds
is
that
when
we
say
comprehensive
plan
element,
they
think
wow,
that's
big.
I
didn't
realize
it
was
that
big.
I
don't
have
my
head
wrapped
around
it,
and
so
I
think
the
best
thing
we
can
do
is
not
try
and
necessarily
educate
them
on
the
broader
piece
of
it,
but
break
it
down
into
the
highest
priority.
J
Things
get
them
chewing
through
it
a
little
bit
and
get
them
to
understand
through
action
and
experience
why
this
is
valuable
and
what
it's
going
to
do
to
drive
performance
in
in
county
government
and
then
the
nice
thing
I'll
say
is
that
I
don't
believe
I've
seen
before
performance
measures
for
any
of
these
budget
items
and
departments
in
prior
prior
years,
budgets
that
I've
looked
at.
Maybe
I
haven't.
Maybe
it
came
in
the
last
year
or
two,
but
I
was
very
happy
to
see
performance
measures
in
the
budget.
J
I
don't
know
that
all
the
performance
measures
are
really
relevant
to
the
to
the
public,
but
I'm
glad
to
see
it's
there.
So
I
would
double
down
on
that
and
encourage
the
board
and
the
manager
to
continue
to
mature
that
performance
management
approach
to
the
budgeting.
F
It's
a
new
hand.
First,
I
want
to
enthusiastically
support
both
of
the
recommendations
that
john
has
made.
In
fact,
my
recommendation
is
a
variation
on
his
first
one,
and
I've
made
this
request
in
the
past.
I
think
we
can
actually
there's
a
chance.
We
could
get
this.
That
is.
I
would
like
to
recommend
that
we
request
that
the
but
management
and
budget
office
do
a
code
search
on
it
and
provide
basically
a
horizontal
slice
of
hot
it
funding.
F
I
can't
believe
that
any
budget
in
this
modern
age,
worth
its
salt,
doesn't
have
the
ability
to
sort
on
some
of
these
things
that
are
integrated
throughout
like
I.t
it.
It
must
be
a
you
know
in
their
in
their
purchase
agreements
and
various
other
things.
This
is
a
code
that
they
can
look
up.
Certainly
the
auditor
looked
at
it.
F
Contracts
was
one
of
the
things
the
auditor
has
recently
done
a
contract
of,
so
they
they
they
can
sort
these
by
I.t.
So
I
think
what
we
should
request
is
that
they
do
a
sort
on
the
budget
based
on.
It's
not
won't
get
everything
but
based
on
basically
proposed
it
spending
across.
All
of
them
so
that
we'll
be
able
to
have
an
idea
for
the
first
time
of
where
the
money
is
in
this
area
across
the
whole
institution.
F
That
would
be
a
first
step
to
being
able
to
take
a
more
comprehensive
look
is
knowing
where
the
money
is
and
who's
managing
it,
and
I
think
that
I
mean
I.
I
can't
believe
it's
not
a
fairly
direct
budget
analysis
task,
so
I
think
we
should
request
that.
I
think
we
should
request
it
in
writing.
I
think
the
board
should
want
to
have
that.
I
didn't
write
a
resolution
on
that,
because
others
might
be
better
at
the
phrasing,
but.
F
H
I
I
want
to
jump
on
this
one
too
and
say
I
think,
there's
been
many
subjects
that
we've
brought
up,
including
cyber
security
privacy
data
sharing,
but
jack
as
our
main
point
of
contact
in
jack's
piece
of
the
county.
Dts
honestly
tells
us
is
beyond
their
scope
of
authority
and
accepting
that
and
understanding
that
it's
not
particularly
our
purview
to
design
a
organization
structure
for
the
county
that
has
the
cio
reporting
directly
to
the
county
manager,
like
god,
intended
them
to.
H
Rather,
but
rather
I
observe
that
there
are
a
layer
of
three
deputy
county
managers
and
every
piece
of
the
county
falls
below
one
of
those
three
and
they
are
above
jack
in
the
organizational
chart
and
so
without
proposing
to
change
the
organizational
chart.
I
might
say
that
some
of
the
things
we're
seeking
don't
fit
in
the
dts
box
very
well
and
they
might
fit
better
in
this
three
deputy
county
manager,
triumvirate
because
that
does
span
the
entire
county.
H
So
if
you
do
want
to
have
a
conversation
about
privacy
that
spans
the
county
or
data
sharing
or
cyber
security,
it
seems
that
would
be
the
level
and
those
would
be
the
organizational
units
that
are
appropriately
scoped
to
do
so.
So
I
just
want
to
make
that,
if
we're
trying
to
map
dollars
to
budgets
to
organizational
structure,
I
think
much
of
the
action
that
we're
trying
to
get
yet
to
happen
would
happen
at
that
three
deputy
county
manager
level-
and
they
all
have
I'd,
say
a
third
of
the
budget
to
keep
an
eye
on.
J
It
and
that
that
that's
why
I
phrased
it
as
the
the
board,
should
you
know,
direct
the
the
manager
to
do
this
prospectively
because
I
think
the
budget's
already
baked
to
some
extent,
if
the
structure's
not
there,
to
get
at
the
information
that
we're
getting
at
we're
not
going
to
get
at
this
cycle.
J
So
I
think
it's
more
about.
We
can't
tell
this
today
so
therefore
hear
your
marching
orders
go
figure
out
how
to
make
it
make
sure
we
can
tell
this
next
year
and
and
and
then
it's
the
county,
manager's
job
to
to
design
the
right
organizational
structure
and
in
the
right
resource
plan
and
the
staffing
plan,
jack
and
jackie.
J
I
think
part
of
the
problem
with
the
coding
issue
is
that
most
of
the
humans
are
coded
as
personnel
and
are
they
I.t
humans
or
are
they
non-I.t
humans
and
if
they're,
depending
upon
where
they're
working
they
might
be
managing
I.t?
So
the
coding
the
salaries
and
benefits,
I
think,
is
the
the
most
difficult
part
of
that
analysis.
J
B
Yeah
so
so
I
think
we've
got
a
sense
about
where
and
I'm
mindful
that
we're
four
minutes
from
from.
I
think
we've
got
a
sense
about
what
some
of
the
items
are
that
to
frame
the
letter.
So
we'll
we'll
start
a
draft
we'll
send
it
around
all
of
you
and
then
we'll
we'll
want
your
comments
back
and
then
I
think,
usually,
if
we
get
it
to
them
about
three
or
four
days
before
we
speak
it's
best
because
then
they
read
it
before
we.
We
actually
are
up
there.
B
B
The
final.
The
final
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
december
2021
draft
minutes.
Does
anyone
have
any
any
comments?
Any
changes,
recommendations
to
the
to
the
minutes?
B
Second,
a
second
that
thank
you,
andrea,
all,
those
in
favor.
C
B
J
J
You
know
it's.
This
is
not
the
first
time
that
this
has
happened,
and
it
is
like
lord
of
the
flies
or
walmart
on
black
friday,
trying
to
get
your
summer
camp
registration
in.
I
think
we
could
probably
do
better
is
what
I'm
saying.
B
Okay,
all
right,
we
will
noted
and
we
will.
We
will
ask
that
question
for
the
update.
It's
good,
all
right
all
right.
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.
C
B
You
andrea
got
in
there
under
the
wire
right.
I
thought
everybody
just
wanted
to
stay
because
it
was
such
a
lovely
night.
Hey
thanks.
Everybody
really
good
conversation
and
we
specifically
didn't
want
to
have
any
guests,
because
we
thought
there
was
just
a
lot
on
the
agenda.
So
thank
you
really
good
thoughtful
conversations
and
any
other
thoughts
that
you
may
think
of
later
feel
free
to
send
frank
and
me
a
note.
So
thanks
appreciate
it.