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A
All
right:
well,
we
wanted
to
welcome
we're
now
full
compliment
which
is
not
true
of
every
commission
in
arlington
county.
So
john,
we
want
to
welcome
you.
This
is
your
your
first
meeting.
Thank
you
so
much,
and
would
you
like
to
say
a
few
words
john
just
to
introduce
yourselves
just
to
remind
people.
I
know
you,
you
would
visit
it
a
couple
of
times
but
we'd
love
to
have
you
on
mute
and
say
hello
to
everybody.
B
C
B
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
all.
I
currently
work
for
the
federal
energy
regulatory
commission
for
for
its
short
name
as
a
financial,
slash
data
analyst,
where
I
work
with
a
lot
of
the
regulations
on
energy
rates,
wrangling,
big
data
and
the
security
of
that
data,
which
is
kind
of
what
pushed
me
towards
this
commission
right
now
with
the
cyber
security.
B
A
large.
A
lot
of
my
background
prior
to
ferc
was
in
finance.
My
bachelor's
was
in
accounting,
my
master's
degrees
in
public
administration,
I'm
also
a
marine
corps
veteran
and
I
think
that's
a
quick
summary
of
what
I've
got
going
on
right
now.
So
I
again
look
forward
to
meeting
meeting
you
all
in
person
and
working
with
you
all.
B
A
You
we're
getting
a
little
here.
Let
me
let
me
just
here:
we
go
there
we're
getting
a
little
feedback.
There
tim
thanks
for
giving
us
an
update.
As
I
mentioned
to
you,
we
will
receive
a
briefing
from
county
staff
soon
to
be.
A
You
know
date
to
be
determined
about
where
we
are
in
the
broadband
study,
but
you
have
been
following
this
so
closely
that
I
thought
it
would
really
help
the
commission,
if
you
could
give
us
your
update
of
where,
where
we
are
and
what
some
of
the
questions
remaining
on
the
table.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
for
for
coming
and
being
willing
to
share.
D
A
D
You
so
much
mary
for
having
us
I'm
glad
to
share.
I
am
I
I
I
just
did
a
really
simple
powerpoint.
So
people
have
some
visuals.
Okay,
it's
okay!
If
I
can
share.
A
D
D
If
people
aren't
seeing
it
just,
let
me
know
and
I'll
try
to
we
don't,
though,
anyway,
okay,
well,
thank
you
everyone.
My
name
is
tim
dempsey.
I'm
with
a
an
advocacy
group
here
in
arlington
are
all
fiber.
I've
spoken
with
the
commission
in
the
past,
but
we
our.
F
D
Has
been
advocating
for
the
county
too,
in
a
nutshell,
I'm
advocating
for
the
county
to
take
some
bold
steps
in
order
to
address
basically
fully
the
issue
of
digital
divide
in
the
county
and
also
just
take
some
very
proactive
steps
in
order
to
bring
the
county
digital
infrastructure.
D
Put
it
on
a
very
steady
footing
for
it
to
meet
future
data
needs
and
future
technology
needs
and
to
you
know,
basically
make
sure
that
everybody
is
has
access
to
you
know:
qualitative
high-speed
internet,
that's
affordable
to
them,
particularly
people
in
the
lowering
lower
income,
small
business
and
like
so
we've
been
advocating
that
the
county
board
forum
was
called
a
broadband
authority
which
is
a
legal
vehicle
to
allow
the
county
to
make,
from
our
point
of
view,
better
use
of
its
existing
network.
D
And
on
top
of
that,
we've
asked
them
to
conduct
a
full-scale
feasibility
study
of
building
citywide
fiber
to
the
home
network.
So
we've
been
advocating
for
this,
the
county
has
through
fits
and
starts
finally
kind
of
responded
to
that,
and
they
have
put
out
this
rfp
that
you
were
supposed
to
be
briefed
on.
So
I
just
wanted
to.
Basically,
just
share
our
kind
of
experience
of
the
rfp.
D
We
actually
haven't
been
very
active
because
we're
waiting
for
the
rfp
winner
to
be
chosen,
and
now
I
guess,
we'll-
be
waiting
for
the
the
rfp
for
itself
to
be
finished,
and
we
also
await
kind
of
with
baited
breath,
like
you
all,
for
the
formal
briefing
to
the
board
and
and
to
you
guys
as
well
to
see
what
the
county,
the
county
staff
has
to
say
about
it.
D
But
in
any
event,
as
far
as
you
know,
what
we
think
about
it,
we
have
had
some
problems
with
it,
even
though,
on
on
the
whole
we've
been
very
happy
that
the
the
county
has
engaged
us
and
tried
to
take
into
account
our
you
know,
kind
of
our
perspectives
and
our
kind
of
wishes
for
this
thing.
But
that
said,
these
were
the
things
that
we
kind
of
noticed
that
we
found
that
were
not
necessarily
basically
left
us
with
something
to
desire.
I
guess
so.
F
D
Had
a
problem
with
was
that
the
fact
that
they,
the
the
timing,
was
kind
of
bad
the
the
county
dropped
the
very
fairly
complex
request
for
proposal
in
mid-december.
G
I
wonder
I
just
saw
your
mouse.
Your
mouse
is
on
our
screen
now.
D
Good,
if
this
is
if
this
is
the
I'll,
just
keep
it
like
this,
I
don't
know
why.
Okay
I'll
I'll
just
move
forward
like
this,
then
that's
fine
in
this.
In
this
view,
I'm
not
sure
why
it's
not
showing
the
whole
thing,
but.
F
D
D
20Th
was
just
not
very
much
turnaround
time,
given
how
much
you
know
what
they're
asking
for
in
terms
of
this
rfp
and
then
the
other
thing
was,
is
that
the
county
board
members
had
initially
told
our
group,
our
fiber,
that
we'd
be
able
to
provide
input,
and
we,
when
we
tried
to
do
that,
we
did
it
directly
to
the
the
bidding
office
and
then
they
turned
around
and
said:
okay.
Well,
the
official
feedback
can
only
be
submitted
to
the
vendor
portal,
but
you
know
not
being
vendors.
D
It
was
not
really
we
weren't
able
to
actually
provide
feedback
using
that
that
portal
we
we
tried
to
set
ourselves
to
set
ourselves
up
as
a
kind
of
phony
vendor
that
would
be
submitting
it,
but
even
that
really
didn't
work,
so
I
mean
so
there's
two
things
we
didn't
like
about
the
process
as
far
as
the
rfp
itself.
D
D
Most
of
them
said
that
the
because
the
rfp
was
just
asking
for
very
comprehensive
surveys
of
several
universes
of
potential
subscribers
and
then
on
top
of
that,
wanted
to
break
down
that
data
by
various
demographic
groups,
which
they
said
would
just
not
would
not
really
produce
meaningful
results,
basically
because
of
the
just
the
the
degree
of
surveying
that
would
need
to
take
place
and
just
basically
their
experience
of
doing
that
kind
of
work
in
other
cities.
D
Looking
at
researching
digital
divide
in
the
county,
I
mean
because
the
county
already
knows
where
the
problem
areas
are
with
respect
to
the
on
the
unserved
or
underserved.
So
it
didn't
really
make
much
sense
to
us
that
they're
asking
that
to
be
redone,
and
then
I
guess
the
other.
The
really
the
kind
of
biggest
thing
for
us
was
that
there
was
a
kind
of
a
lack
of
focus.
They
were
asking
the
consultant
or
potential
consultant
to
provide
them
with.
D
You
know
several
different,
very
different
models
of
providing
service
or
for
dealing
with
the
problem
and
some
of
the
other
kind
of
consultants.
We
spoke
with
said
that
you
know,
given
the
county's,
you
know
very
dense,
it's
a
dense
community
with
the
semi-urban
very
complex
infrastructure.
So
I
you
know
most
of
them
said
that
you
know
providing
individual
models
to
try
to
to
deal
with
all
those
those
variables
it
was
would
just
be
very
complex
and
you
know
probably
not
leave
much
money
left
for
more
detailed
engineering.
D
If
you
actually
wanted
to
do
something
like
build
out
two
outs
throughout
the
county,
so
you
know
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
share
like
we.
We
had
submitted
to
the
county
board
members
and
to
staff
the
hillsborough,
rfp
and
theirs
was
basically
two
pages
and
they
basically
said
outright
that
they
wanted
to
look
at
a
fiber
to
their
home
model
that
would
be
throughout
the
city
and
that
they
would
provide
service
through
it,
and
then
they
had.
D
You
know
six
things
that
they
kind
of
asked
the
consultant
to
do.
You
know
they
got
back
a
pretty
decent
report
that
they
ended
up
using
in
the
end,
so
it
it's
probably
overly
complex.
But
you
know
we
what
the
considerations
were
on
the
part
of
the
county
for
why
they
they
made
it
as
complex
as
they
did
we're
not
really
privy
to
those
details.
D
The
rfp
winners
that
they
announced.
One
is
televate,
I
guess
is
the
actual
winner,
but
they
will
be
partnering
with
strategic
networks
group.
I
you
know
I
went
on
and
perused
the
television
website.
It
looks
pretty
superficial,
it
doesn't
look
like
I
mean
they've
written
some
reports.
D
Most
of
everything
that
they've
done
has
been
kind
of
more
focused
on
limited
time:
evolution,
lte
networks,
strategic
networks
group
has
a
somewhat
broader
portfolio
and
I'm
actually,
we
were
familiar
with
them
and
they
have
done
some
good
work
on
community
broadband
so
that
somewhat
encouraging
from
our
perspective.
D
But
it
remains
to
be
seen
exactly
you
know
what
they
produce,
given
what
they,
the
county,
has
kind
of
asked
them
in
the
rfp.
D
The
last
thing
is:
is
that
on
the
broadband
authority
front,
we
we'd
ask
the
county
board
to
regardless
of
the
rfp
we'd,
ask
them
to
just
go
ahead
and
form
an
authority
now,
but
they
seem
to
still
be
tying
that
decision
to
the
issue
of
municipal
broadband.
Basically,
if,
if
they
come
back
with
the
rfp,
comes
back
and
recommends
municipal
broadband,
then
they'll
consider
the
authority
if
they
won't
consider
it
beforehand.
D
Obviously,
we
think
this
is
a
mistake,
because
the
the
authority
would
allow
them,
regardless
of
the
outcome.
The
authority
would
allow
department
of
technology
services
and
connect
on
to
make
better
use
of
the
network
in
general
right
now,
most
other.
D
A
a
dark,
fiber
network
or
a
public
network,
that's
similar
to
our
connect
arts
and
they've,
already
formed
authorities
for
this
very
reason.
So
we're
not
really
sure
why
the
county
continues
to
kind
of
push
back
on
on
doing
that
and
the.
F
D
Is
that
we?
What
we
think
is
kind
of
short-sighted
on
that
in
that
regard?
Is
that
the
virginia
telecommunications
initiative,
which
is
the
state's
broadband
investment
fund,
has
received
a
huge
influx
of
federal
funds,
and
some
of
those
are
governed
by
different
rules
than
the
state
itself
is
set
out
in
a
sort
of
narrow
fashion,
and
the
county
would
need
a
broadband
authority
essentially
to
apply
for
those
funds
in
the
future
and
those
funds
are
going
to
be
available.
You
know
now,
basically,
so
so
that's
it
sorry.
D
I
realized
it's
not
a
little,
probably
short
on
details
and
maybe
not
extraordinarily
insightful,
but
but
you
know,
but
that's
that's
the
degree
of
detail.
We
can
provide
right
now
in
terms
of
what
we've
seen
while
while
following
the
issue,
so
I
don't
know
if
people
have
questions
I'll,
try
to
answer
them,
but
yeah.
A
We
do
I'm
sure,
we're
sure
we
have
questions.
Thank
you
tim
no.
This
is
this
gives
us
a
really
good
common
understanding
of
where
we
are
so
that
was
exactly
what
I
wanted
you
to
do.
John.
You
have
a
question.
G
Yeah
thanks
tim
to
the
did
the
rfp
ask
the
consultants
to
look
at
various
different
governance
models
for
a
potential
broadband
authority,
because
I-
and
I
asked-
because
I
think
that's
one
of
the
the
critical
factors
for
success
right
is:
is
the
governance
structure
of
that
broadband
authority
who's
in
charge
who's
on
the
board?
Those
kinds
of
considerations
so.
D
So
the
answer
is
no.
What
they
have
asked
is,
basically
they
they
they
have.
I
think
they
ask
for
feedback
or
model
like
they're,
then
they
they
have
like
five
templates
or
models.
Basically
they're
asking
for
in
section
two
I
think,
and
one.
D
To
form
you
know
a
municipal
network
using
a
wireless
service
authority
to
quote-unquote
broadband
authority
and
then
period,
that's
it
and
then
it
goes
to
the
next
model,
so
they
haven't
really
asked
them
to
drill
down.
On
that,
I
look
at
that.
From
that
perspective,
I
mean
that
that
goes
to
the
point
that
we
that
we
were
trying
to
make
to
them,
which
is
that
it's
just
not
focused
enough.
D
Like
I
said
you
know
if,
if
you're
looking
at
some
of
the
other
networks
or
cities
that
have
done
like
a
municipal
network,
whether
it
was
you
know,
run
by
the
city
itself
or
diamond
partnership,
and
all
that
those
were
hyper
focused
they
they
knew
what
model
they
wanted,
and
they
just
asked
them
to
study
that
and
that's
it
and
that's.
So
that
was
when
we
talked
to
some
veteran
and
we
we
actually
once
rfp
dropped.
D
We
reached
out
to
several
vendors
ourselves
that
we
knew
had
done
successful
municipal
networks
and
asked
for
them
to
bid,
or
at
least
give
us
feedback
on.
You
know
on.
You
know
what
they
thought
about
the
rfp
and
all
of
them
said
no.
They
several
of
them
said
they
wouldn't
touch
it,
because
it
was
just
not.
It
wasn't
focused
enough.
I
was
just
asking
for
a
lot
of
complexity
and
a
lot
of
data
that
they
didn't
think
would
actually
be
useful
to
to
do
or
were
what
we
would.
C
D
Them
to
do
so
anyway,
that
I
they
did
not
ask
for
any
kind
of
detailed
study
at
the
as
the
authority
kind
of
municipal
broadband.
I
mean
they
asked
them
to
consider
it
as
a
model
and
to
provide
them
information
on
a
model,
but
they
wanted
them
in
in
drafting
all
that
they
wanted
them
to
incorporate
all
that
statistical
data.
That's
in
part,
one
that
looks
at
all
these.
You
know
all
these
demographic
different
demographics.
D
So
this
is
a
they're
asking
for
a
very
complex
product,
and
you
know
whether
you
know
like
I
said
we
not.
You
know
none
of
the
none
of
the
the
vendors
that
we
talked
to
should
necessarily
be
considered
the
absolute
authorities
on
this,
but
a
lot
of
them
thought
that
it
was
not
going
to
produce.
You
know
could
produce
the
result
that
the
county
might
want,
because
there's.
F
D
Lot
of
there's
a
lot
of,
and
if
you
read
some
of
the
actual,
I
read
the
additional
additional
documents
the
county
published
with
faqs
and
a
lot
of
the
vendors
clearly
asked
them.
How
the?
How
ask
the
county,
how
they
expected
them
to
gather
data
on
what
apartment,
buildings
or
multi-unit
buildings,
have
exclusive
contracts,
and
things
like
that
because
they
said
you
know
that
data
can
be
very
difficult
to
gather
it's
important.
It's
important,
obviously,
for
you
know,
for
building
these
networks.
It'd
be
nice
to
know
that.
D
But
you
know
in
terms
of
having
to
go
to
all
the
individual
building
owners
track
down,
I
mean
not
all
of
them
are
owned
by
you
know
a
single
entity.
They
have
complex.
You
know,
you
know,
subsidiaries
that
that
do
property
management
and
all
that
and
you
know
getting
them
to
give
you
an
answer-
is
difficult.
I
think
so
any.
F
H
D
To
show
all
the
skills
to
say
that
the
the
rfp
you
know
the
what
they're
asking
inventor
to
do
is
really
complex
and
whether
they,
the
what
data
the
vendor
collects,
might
not
necessarily
be
useful
in
determining
you
know
the
success
of
the
network,
or
you
know
so.
E
D
I
I
do
not
know
about
fairfax,
I
there's
only
well.
There
are
multiple,
I
think,
there's
almost
like
50
now
in
in
the
state,
and
all
of
them
are
pursuing
slightly
different
models.
Some
of
them
have
third
party
partnerships.
Some
are
doing
open
access
networks.
Some
you
know
of
the
two
that
are
providing
there's
two
or
three
that
are
providing
service
directly
in
the
kind
of
municipal
type
model,
and
so
all
of
them
have
been
you
know
buying
for
for
money.
D
C
D
They've
incorporated
a
lot
of
money
from
the
federal
government
and
the
treasury
guidelines
that
was
accompanying
a
lot
of
that
money.
You
know
basically
had
said
that
the
states
can't
play
games
with
this
money
and
pick
and
choose
who
who
gets
to
do
it
based
on
whether
there's
a
large,
you
know
cable
provider
there
that
doesn't
want
them
to
get
money,
so
so
there's
more
opportunity
to
get
that
money.
I
don't
know
what
all
the
other
I'm
not
aware
of
whatever
all
the
other
areas
are
doing.
I'm
not.
I.
A
Kim,
do
you
know
the
when
we
expect
the
now
that
it
has
been
awarded,
do
do
we
have?
Are
we
supposed
to
get
something?
This
fall,
what's
your
sense
about
when
or
is
it
next
year?
What's
your
what's
your
sense
about
timing.
D
I
I
I
do
not
know.
That
is
one
thing
that
is
not
clear
to
me.
I
did
not.
That
might
have
been
something
that
I
I
I'm
the
I'm
assuming
that
the
rfp
probably
did
have
a
timeline
I
must
have
just
I
might
I'm
thinking,
I'm
like
blanking
on
it
right
now.
That's
right!
I
I
think
I
I
would
I
would
expect
it
would
be
about
a
year.
D
A
And
you
mentioned
50
broadband
authorities.
You
know
we
looked
at
this.
Remember
frank:
we
looked
at
this
a
while
back.
There
were
not
50..
Do
you
do
you
have?
Can
you
give
us
a
sense
about
how,
where
that
I
mean
how,
for
example,
10
years
ago
five
years
ago,
is
this
all
happen
is
this?
Is
the
majority
of
these
authorities
been
formed
in
the
last
five
years.
D
Yes,
they
have
they've,
been
they've,
been
sprouting
up
like
crazy,
particularly
once
you
know,
more
federal
money
was
coming
out,
I
mean
more,
have
been
forming
and
more
more
forming
as
like
large
conglomerates
like
the
the
virginia.
D
There's
a
large
ring
now
in
virginia
beach,
where
there's
several
communities
down
there
like
norfolk,
virginia
beach,
newport
news,
several
there's
several
cities
down
there
that
are
kind
of
basically
want
to
build
a
big
ring,
but
not
open
access
network.
So
I
think
all
of
them
formed
one
form.
D
And
then
there's
one
that
links
them
all,
but
they're
they're,
taking
advantage
of
like
that,
there's
a
new
kind
of
like
they
call
it
internet
hotel
that
they're
they
put
there
on
the
coast.
D
Big
transatlantic
cable,
I
think,
but
they're
they're
kind
of
trying
to
leverage
that
too
to
improve
their
internet
connection
in
that
area.
So
so
there's
a
result.
There's
been
a
lot
that
have
been
formed
recently,
and
I
mean
just
generally
speaking
because
of
the
way
the
law.
D
Outside
of
trying
to
incentivize,
the
existing
providers
is
to
form
your
own.
Like
I
said
I
mean
you
know,
arlington
wants
to
make
better
use
of
it.
You
know
I
mean
we've
had
conversations
with
jack
belcher
and
he
says.
Oh,
you
know
we
can't
do
some
projects
because
some
of
it
needs
to
be
put
on
private
property
and
we're
not
allowed
to
do
that
under
the
law
when
they.
A
That's
right,
yeah!
I
did
not
see
you
in
the
queue,
so
do
speak
up,
but
jonathan
and
then
then
mike
go
ahead.
Jonathan.
H
Yes,
sir
hi,
I'm
just
a
minute
late,
thanks
tim
for
doing
this,
we're
talking
about
funding
under
our
pie.
Ticket
right
is
that
is
that
what
we're
dealing
with
here.
D
No,
oh,
oh
yeah,
under
armour!
Yes,
yes,
yes,
yes!
Yes!
Sorry
I
was
thinking
of.
I
was
looking
at
the
royal,
the
royal
one,
no,
no
arpa!
Yes,.
H
Yeah
that
was
actually
warner's
deal,
so
you
can
you
send
around
the
powerpoint
question,
maybe
to
marriage
she'd
get
around
to
us
just
because
be
helpful
to
have
that.
I
think
for
the
commission.
A
F
Tim,
I
wanted
to
start
by
just
saying:
congratulations
on
getting
the
county
to
put
the
rfp
out
at
all.
I'm
not
sure
they
would
have
done
that
without
your
notch
and
then
I
wanted
to
piggyback
on
john's
governance
question.
I
have
been
perplexed
about
the
99
year
lease
that
the
county
did
with
its
biggest
landlord.
C
F
Particularly
the
aspect
of
that
contract
that
calls
for
arlington
connect
to
be
jointly
managed
between
that
private
for-profit
entity
and
and
the
county,
which
is
obviously
a
local
government.
Indeed,
now
it's
easy
to
dismiss
that
concern,
because
you
know
certain
strands
of
fiber
will
be
used
by
certain
parties,
but
the
management
of
the
overall
thing.
It
seems,
there's
already
a
commitment
that
would
have
to
be
navigated
by
whatever
the
governance
structure
of
this
utility
would
be,
and
I'm
in
favor
of
the
utility.
F
I
don't
understand
the
risk
being
avoided
by
not
setting
it
up
at
all,
and
I
and
I
go
to
what
now
is
kind
of
a
standard
concern
of
mine
that
the
county
enjoys
appearing
to
be
fixing
a
problem
and
not
so
much
to
be
accountable
for
the
problem
solution.
D
So
I
I
what
for
what
I
understand
with
that,
the
the
I
think
the
county's
attorneys
actually
had
raised
similar
issues.
I
think
that
they
thought
this
was
a
major
legal
issue,
which
is
why
I
was
surprised
that
they
went
through
it
because
we
went
through
with
that
because
we
had
been
told
you
know
prior
that
you
know
the
reason
that
the
broadband
authority
was
you
know
so.
D
But
I
I
mean
I
agree
like
I,
I
honestly,
I
think
that
if
they
had
formed
a
broadband
authority,
you
know
prior
to
this
and
had
put
in
place
and
done
some
feasibility
studies
to
begin
with,
to
start
looking
at
using
the
authority
to
provide
service
in
those
areas.
I
think
you
know
that
would
have
been
a
preferable
outcome
than
what
they're
doing
right
now,
but
I
is
regarding
you
know
what
they're
going
to
do.
D
You
know
and
maybe
you're
raising
a
good
question.
Maybe
this
has
actual.
Maybe
this
has
direct
implications
for
forming
the
authority,
but
you
know
they
with
amazon
in
town
with
jbg
their
their
their
landlord.
I
think
you
know
the
county
is
highly
swayed
by
what
they
want,
but
some.
D
Kind
of
lost
on
me
in
terms
of
how
that
how
that
deal
would
would
affect
any
kind
of
broader
attempt
by
the
county
to
set
up
a
new
utility
through
the
authority.
So
I.
D
Yeah
I
mean
like
I,
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
the
thing
that
would
make
the
most
sense
to
me,
regardless
of
you
know,
and
I've
said
this
probably
10
000
times
on
these
calls,
you
guys,
you
know,
yeah
from
from.
D
D
You
know
permission
to
do
whatever
wants
with
those
assets,
whereas
the
county
does
not
because
they
set
it
up
under
a
different
part
of
the
law,
but
it
can
transfer
those
assets
without
you
know,
without
very
much
much
issue
at
all,
and
then
it
could
have,
you
know,
could
have
been
doing
a
lot
more
with
the
network.
D
D
They
wanted
to
appoint
themselves.
I
don't
know
that
would
have
been
necessarily
smart,
but
you
know
that
they
all
everybody
else
could
have
stayed
in
place.
I
mean
the
the
people
running.
Connector
arlington
now
would
just
be
running,
connect
around
him,
but
just
under
the
authority.
So
but
but
I
mean.
D
But
you
know
they,
you
know
I
I
I
would,
I
would
hasten
or
I
would.
I
would
implore
you
all
to
to
maybe
to
maybe
kind
of
pose
some
of
those
questions
to
them
more
directly
to
the
board
and
to
the
staff,
because
you
know.
D
From
from
war
for
more
people-
and
that
happens
to
be
in
your
wheelhouse
and
they
may
they
might
listen
to
you
more
than
they
listen
to
us
on
that.
I
don't
know.
A
No,
as
mike
said
you
were,
you
were
instrumental,
and
I
don't
think
we'd
be
talking
about
this.
If
you
and
and
your
team
hadn't
pushed
this
tim
so.
A
All
right-
and
so
thank
you
and
phil.
That
was
an
old
hand
right.
You
didn't
have,
did
you
have
a
new
question
or
were
you
yeah?
Okay?
Well,
tim
thanks.
So
much
and
obviously
we
will.
We
will
await
where,
where
we
are
and
what
the
what
the
timeline
is
and
we'll
keep
we'll
keep
each
other
post
and
really
appreciate
you
and
charles
giving
giving
us
an
update
and
the
benefit
of
your.
You
know
you're
following
this
really
carefully
and
closely,
and
we
really
appreciate
it.
A
All
right,
all
right,
so
john,
you
are
up
on
the
list.
We
wanted
to
hear
where
we
are
on
the
safety
innovation
zone
task
force.
I
know
you
gave
us
the
kind
of
the
overview,
but
just
wanted
a
a
status
report
of
of
what,
where
you
are
and
what
the
next
steps
are
sure.
G
So
two
two
major
developments
or
meaningful
development.
Since
the
last
time
we
met
last
time,
I
talked
about
this
one.
I've
actually
seen
the
data
that's
coming
out
of
these
devices.
I've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
columns.
The
data
dictionary,
the
actual
values
on
the
data
and,
as
expected,
nothing
in
it
gave
me
any
concern
when
it
comes
to
a
privacy
perspective.
G
So
now,
obviously
it's
what's
being
provided
to
me.
So
I'm
not
looking
at
the
actual
outputs
myself,
but
I've
got
every
reason
to
believe
that,
what's
being
provided
to
me
is
in
fact,
what's
being
output.
So
that's
good
right
that
the
that
the
devices
are
in
fact
outputting
metadata
that
is
non,
doesn't
pose
any
any
pers,
conceivable
privacy
risk.
From
from
my
perspective,
so
that's
one
two
there's
a
draft
report.
There's
a
couple
versions
of
the
draft
report.
The
first
version
came
out.
We
provided
comment
back
on
it.
G
A
second
version
has
come
out.
I
provided
comment
back
on
it.
I
think
at
at
this
point
my
recommendation-
and
I
think
this
recommendation
was
also
made
by
the
other
member
from
from
epac
the
emergency
preparedness
advisory.
Commission
sharon,
valencia
who's
the
chair
of
that
commission.
G
Our
our
recommendation
and
request
is
that
that
draft
report
be
circulated
to
both
commissions
prior
to
being
finalized
and
issued
to
the
board.
I
think
the
the
feedback
I
got
was
that
was
not
the
plan,
and
so
I
referred
that
to
mary
for
her
purview
and
discussion
with
the
our
liaison,
and
I
await
the
results
of
that
but
I'll.
I
say
that
I
feel
uncomfortable
putting
my
name
on
a
report.
G
This
indicates
that
my
participation
in
the
group
was
a
member
of
this
as
a
member
of
this
commission,
without
having
this
commission,
have
the
opportunity
to
comment
and
provide
input
and
updates
to
that
report.
So
I'm
hopeful
we'll
be
able
to
issue
a
joint
collaborative
report,
including
policy
recommendations.
G
As
a
result
of
the
lessons
learned,
which
I
think
is
the
most
important
part
of
the
report,
the
the
project
particulars
are
interesting
and
valuable,
but
they're
most
valuable
in
terms
of
what
they
tell
us
about
future
government
policy
and
what
we
should
learn
from
this
pilot
program.
In
my
view,.
A
Yes
and
agreed-
and
it's
also
important
for
us
to
follow
process
of
of
having
the
the
commission's
engaged
in
that.
Indeed,
if
this
is
a
setting
precedent
for
for
other
other
innovation,
learnings
jackie
did
you
have
it
thanks,
john
thanks
for
the
update-
and
I
will
I
will
keep
you
posted
just-
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we
could
level
set
and
understand
where,
where
we
are
jackie,
did
you
have
a
comment.
I
I
don't
think
you
can
issue
a
report
that
has
public
consultation,
that's
not
available
to
the
public,
so
I
strongly
agree
with
john's
recommendation
and
with
the
two
commissions
that
this
should
not
go
forward
representing
itself
as
a
report
with
participation
by
these
commissions
unless
the
commissions
are
able
to
see
it,
and,
as
I
said,
I
think
we.
If
and
when
we
see
it.
I
think
our
next
step
is
going
to
be
we're
going
to
want
to
advocate
it
advocate
for
it
to
be
made
public.
I
One
more
thing
is,
they
did
say
they
did
say
at
least,
and
maybe
we
heard
differently.
I
thought
what
I
heard
was
this:
the
dra,
the
draft
when
complete
was
going
to
the
manager
and
whether
the
manager
decided
to
pass
that
on
to
anyone,
including
the
board,
was
up
to
him
and
it
might
never
become
public.
G
G
I
have
additional
problems
with
that
course
of
action
similar
to
ears
checking
so.
A
G
A
D
F
Yeah
mary,
I
couldn't
agree
more
with.
What's
being
said
here
and,
and
you
may
recall,
we've
endured
this
misuse
before
you
and
I
personally
got
the
manager
to
create
a
broadband
and
digital
services
task
force
for
the
purpose
of
creating
a
report
that
would
inform
the
board
about
its
governance,
responsibilities
and
the
digital
future
of
arlington.
F
So
I
I
couldn't
agree
more
that
this
question
merits
public
attention.
I
mean
that's
what
our
commission
is
for
and
if
there's
a
desire
to
avoid
that,
then
we
should
shut
the
commissions
down
and
I'm
saying
that
in
the
extreme
now
more
to
the
point,
I'm
not
impressed.
F
I'm
I'm
relieved,
but
I'm
not
impressed
that
we
have
a
project
that
doesn't
do
any
of
the
harms
we
worried
about,
because
I've
never
seen
anything
that
convinced
me.
There
are
any
benefits
worth
spending
as
much
county
time
and
staff.
On
this
as
there
is,
I
understand
the
value
to
the
various
vendors
involved
to
have
a
test
bed
and
to
have
a
sort
of
referenceable
customer,
but
I've
never
seen
a
benefit
associated
with
this
project.
That
would
make
me
want
to
go
through
all
the
labor.
F
That's
been
applied
to
it
to
avoid
privacy
risks
and
the
last
time
I
was
present
to
hear
a
conversation
about
this.
We
were
trying
to
determine
whether
people,
jaywalked
and
clarendon
and
I'm
sure,
from
casual
observation.
They
do
all
the
time,
and
so
I
think,
we're
still
lacking
the
fundamental.
What
is
the
benefit
of
this
program?
Not?
Is
it
harmful
to
privacy
and
is
it
worth
citizens?
Knowing
about?
I
mean,
if
there's
county
staff
time
being
applied
to
this,
then
it
should
be
fair
game.
Why
did
we
apply
the
staff
to
this.
G
G
Question
I've
tried
to
stay
in
my
lane
and
in
the
tech
commission's
lane,
and
not
focus
and
and
focus
on
the
question
of
the
benefit,
because
I
feel
that's
more
the
epacs
domain
right,
because
this
is
an
emergency
preparedness,
public
safety
use
case.
I
will
say
that
they
are,
they
are
trying
to
prove
out.
If
there
can
be
a
benefit,
is
I
think,
the
current
state
of
affairs,
and
I
think
we
may
learn
that
there
is-
and
we
may
learn
that
there
isn't.
A
All
right,
okay,
any
other.
Any
other
comment
we
will
keep.
We
will
keep
you
apprised.
I
think
I've
got
a
sense
of
of
where,
where
we
are
so.
Thank
you,
john
for
the
update,
I'm.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
was,
and
I
just
have
one
question
as
to
where
the
path
is.
That's
the
only
thing
I
want
to
clarify,
but
other
than
that
I'll
keep
you
keep
you
posted,
but
thanks
thanks
mike.
F
This
is
mike,
I
sent
out
by
email
just
a
couple
hours
before
this
meeting,
a
piece
that
I
think
is
related
to
the
clarendon
project,
and
that
is
a
statement
that
was
made
at
the
board
meeting
that
basically
at
least
one
member
of
the
board
sees
no
value
whatsoever
in
trying
to
protect
arlington
citizens
and
visitors
from
surveillance,
that's
basically
unregulated
or
uncontrolled.
F
C
F
G
Mike,
can
you
send
the
link
to
the
actual
er
on
now
story,
because
that
wasn't
included
I'd
love
to
be
able
to
go
back
and
watch
the
video
of
the
board
meeting,
if
possible,.
F
Yeah
and
to
answer
your
question
directly
john,
I
could
try,
I
think
I
kind
of
came
across
it
as
click
bait
and
just
cut
out
the
quote
and
save
it.
I
looked
at
their
arlington
now
website
to
see,
if
I
could,
you
know,
use
a
link
to
it
and
I
didn't
quickly
find
that
so
I
just
went
with
the
block
copied
quote.
Their
site
seems
to
be
more
about
today's
news
and
less
about
archiving
past
stories,
but
maybe
I
just
didn't
spend
enough
time
on
the
site
to
find
it.
I
Yeah
there
also
was
a
similar
comment
actually
made
earlier
in
the
context
of
the
clarendon
project,
and
that
quote
was
libby
garvey
and
she
basic
she
said
and
I'm
paraphrasing
but
and
I
would
have
a
hard
time
finding
it,
but
she
basically
said
well
we're
already
being
surveilled
by
everybody.
So
there's
like
nothing
more,
we
can
do
it's
already
that
you
know
horses
out
of
the
barn
or
whatever.
C
G
In
response
to
that
fatalistic
attitude-
and
I'm
not
telling
anybody
here-
anything
they
don't
know,
but
for
the
public
and
for
the
record-
that
the
choice
by
apple,
to
remove
the
advertising
id
and
set
do
not
track
as
default
for
all.
Apps
costs.
Facebook,
10
billion
dollars
a
year
instantaneously
according
to
their
earnings
call
after
that
decision
was
made.
So
there's
a
great
many
things
we
can
do
to
improve
people's
privacy,
so
we
should
not
be
fatalistic
about
it.
F
A
J
J
It
seems
to
me
that
would
get
get
the
board's
attention
if,
if
the
county
could
make
money
by
charging
companies
that
use
this
data
and
and
when
I
went
to
the
arlington
now
site
and
read
the
article
all
of
the
comments
or
90
of
the
comments
were
all
about.
J
J
F
I
think
it
would
be,
I
think
I
think,
be
very
hard
for
the
result
of
that
to
be
anything
but
the
owner
of
the
data
moves
it
outside
the
jurisdiction.
You
know
until
you
got
to
like
a
national
or
maybe
even
a
multinational
scheme.
So
I,
like
the
theory
on
that,
but
I
don't
know
at
local
government
if
that
would
be
one
of
your
one
of
your
best
avenues.
I
mean
I'm
on
the
much
smaller
matter
of.
Can
the
can
the
local
government
protect
the
public
space
from
private
surveillance?
F
A
A
To
think
about
and
frank
and
then
michael,
is
that
a
new
hand
or
an
old
hand.
K
K
K
Yes,
that's
yeah,
that's
what
what
was
what
70
million
dollars.
I
think
yes.
A
I
think
at
least
62
million
right
right,
okay,
all
right,
so
I
mike
do
you
want
any
other.
Any
other
comment,
closing
comment
to
to
the
conversation
on
this
topic.
Well,.
F
I'll
say
just
a
very
loose
end.
I
mean
at
the
forum
privacy
reform
that
was
just
stated.
One
citizen
repeatedly
asked
the
straight
board
question:
does
the
county
share
personally
identifiable
information
with
any
third
parties?
Those
are
my
words,
not
theirs,
and
I
don't
I
wouldn't
matter
much
whether
they
were
selling
it
or
giving
it
away.
But
I
mean:
did
anybody
from
the
county
ever
see
fit
to
answer
that
question
in
a
definitive
way.
A
We
were
told
no
frank
and
I
had
that
we
had
that
conversation
and
we
were
told
no,
we
do
not,
but
I,
but
I
like
your
idea
mike
what
we're
what
we
have
not
dropped.
Is
I
really
want
that
to
be
on
our
website
right
on
the
tech
commission
website
as
a
frequently
asked
question
so
that
we
we
can
reference
it.
A
Okay,
so
so,
b
this
this
is
not
the
last
time
we're
gonna
visit
this
this
question,
but
it's
a
it's
a
big
one.
It's
a
big
one,
so
frank:
I
will
legislative
update.
K
All
right
well
actually
I'll,
take
it
out
of
order,
but
I
think
maybe
it
is
a
apropos
to
our
discussion.
A
bipartisan
group
of
congressional
leaders
from
the
senate
and
house
commerce
committees
are
negotiating
negotiated,
long-stalled
consumer
data
privacy
legislation.
So
I
think
the
the
facebook
now
meta-
and
I
think
the
name
may
have
been
changed
on
purpose
to
try
to
anyway.
K
I
think
that's
helping
to
and
heard
tales
of
the
you
know
knowing
harm
from
the
some
of
the
social
platforms
there,
but
I
think
that's
helping
to
drive
a
bipartisan
solution
and
actually
a
bunch
of
the
tech
companies
are
getting
behind
federal
legislation,
because
otherwise
they're
going
to
be
facing
a
patchwork
of
different
regulations,
as
we've
seen
already
california
virginia
among
others,
and
so
that's.
K
It
said,
but
yes,
that
was
the
report,
I
saw
okay,
let's
see
back
to
broadband
again,
the
fcc's
new
strategic
plan
released
march
29
prioritizes
bringing
affordable,
reliable,
high-speed
rundown
to
100
in
the
us,
and
the
fcc
plans
to
take
affirmative
steps
to
promote
diversity,
equity
inclusion
and
accessibility,
and
then,
I
believe,
separately.
The
fcc
later
in
april,
issued
its
equity
action
plan,
which
is
primarily
an
outline
of
its
efforts
already
underway.
K
And
pulled
from
today's
headlines,
the
fcc
is
proposing
to
adopt
rules
at
its
may
meeting
to
require
all
internet
international
gateway,
telecom
providers
to
comply
with
anti-spoof
of
spoofing
and
robocall
rules.
Also,
this
past
month
the
fcc
has
indicated
that
it's
teamed
up
with
a
number
of
state
attorney
generals,
attorneys
general.
I
should
say
to
help
fight
robocalls,
so
we're
seeing
an
increase
increased
attention
to
that
to
that
continuing
problem.
A
A
A
They
will
ask
us
officially
to
submit
probably
right
around
july,
4th
it's
usually
the
beginning
of
july
when
they
start
looking.
You
know
when
the
county
members
start
looking
at
what
the,
but
we
wanted
you
to
have
an
opportunity
to
think
about
that.
Just
to
give
you
a
reminder.
A
Last
year
we
looked
at
ensuring
medical
electronic
medical
records,
are
standardized
for
public
health
functions,
bridging
the
digital
divide,
access
to
high-speed
internet,
the
dick
digital
records
management,
and
then
we
also
looked
at
the
reasonable
fees
for
telephone
services
to
the
incarcerated,
and
one
came
up.
A
So
we
really,
I
mean,
obviously
it's
originally
done
because
of
covet,
but
but
certainly
we'd,
like
the
the
option
to
do
virtual,
so
that
was
that
was
one
of
the
items
and
john.
I
think
you
had
an
item
you
were
talking
about.
Just
might
want
to
introduce
now
and
then
maybe
in
may
have
something
a
little
bit
more
concrete
did
you
did
you
want
to
introduce
the
fed
ramp.
G
Yeah
thanks
mary,
so
this
is
kind
of
a
winding
road,
but
I
was
after
our
meeting
last
time
in
the
briefing
from
the
department
of
parks
and
recreation,
I
went
looking
for
the
public
contract.
G
I
couldn't
find
it,
and
so
I'd
actually
like
to
request
mary
if
we
could
request
our
county
liaison
to
provide
us
the
public
contract
for
that
the
publicly
available
contract
information
for
that
system
with
that
contract
with
vermont
systems,
I.
G
Different
rfp,
however,
for
the
new
enterprise
resource
planning
system
that
had
been
issued,
and
I
in
going
through
it
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
to
me
was
that
there
was
there
was
questions
in
there
about
kind
of
the
cyber
security
controls
around
the
the
systems
that
the
potential
vendors
might
be
proposing,
or
it
wasn't
the
enterprise
resource
plan.
G
As
far
as
the
payments
payment
system,
enterprise
payment
system-
and
you
know
it
got
me
thinking
that
the
county
attempting
to
vet
cyber
security
of
different
commercial
off
the
off
the
shelf
products
is
really
tax
on
their
resources
and
that
in
the
federal
space
there
is
a
program
called
fedramp
or
the
federal
risk
accountability.
G
My
thought
is
that
there
may
be
an
opportunity
for
our
legislative
agenda
if
there's
a
legislative
enabler
necessary
to
get
virginia
on
the
same
path,
so
that
municipalities
could
could
benefit
from
the
same
kind
of
approach
that
the
federant
program
uses
not
necessarily
that
program,
maybe
state
ramp,
maybe
state
ramp's,
not
the
right
program.
Maybe
virginia
wants
to
do
its
own
thing,
a
lot
of
different
options
there,
but
sending
us
down
in
that
direction.
G
I
think,
would
be
incredibly
helpful
for
our
for
municipalities
to
not
have
to
do
carry
the
load
themselves
and
also,
but
but
maintain
very
high
standards
of
of
compliance
and
and
continuous
monitoring
for
cyber
security.
So
with.
G
I
proposed
a
couple
that
questions
will
put
in
the
chat
if
I
can
get
it
to
work
for
our
for
our
county
liaison
and
the
responses
to
these
questions
may
inform
our
recommendations
at
the
next
meeting
for
our
legislative
agenda.
A
Great
great
so
yeah
has
the
county
evaluated,
utilizing
a
shared
service
for
security
assessment
authorization
and
continuous
monitoring
for
cloud
products
and
services
such
as
fedramp
or
state
ramp,
and
if
so,
what
were
the
results?
If
not,
what
might
prevent
the
county
from
doing
so?
Is
the
county
evaluated
utilizing.
A
G
A
A
A
Good
thanks
john,
it's
a
good
yeah.
It's
really!
It's
it's
a
good
idea!
I'm
surprised
that
we
don't
already
have
it
right,
but
it's
this
way.
So
I
thought.
Oh,
that's,
a
very
good
idea,
other
legislative
priorities,
anything
else.
Anybody
wants
to
throw
out
there
we'll
we'll
just
want
you
to
be
thinking
about
that
and
may
we'll
we'll
really
have
it
get
serious
about
and
then
obviously,
in
june
finish
up
our
list
and
be
able
to
give
that
to
the
tacos.
F
The
need
for
housing
is
calculated
in
arlington
in
terms
of
low-income
housing
and
the
fact
that
the
formula
does
not
make
any
provision
for
broadband
connectivity,
and
I
can't
remember
it
well
enough
to
say
exactly
what
the
proposal
would
be.
But
I
believe
we
are
in
a
situation
now
where,
in
order
to
qualify
for
housing
assistance
at
arlington,
you
have
to
have
a
very
low
income.
And
if
you
manage
to
get
the
low-income
housing,
there's
almost
no
likelihood
that
you
would
have
the
discretionary
income
to
pay
for
broadband.
F
And
so
I
think
the
notion
was
that,
if
we're
going
to
treat
it
like
a
utility
similar
to
water
and
electricity
in
arlington,
then
you
would
need
to
reflect
the
cost
in
that
formula
right,
which
I
think
the
housing
people
wouldn't
like,
because
that
would
make
it
that
would
make
more
people
eligible
and
make
the
shortfall
on
housing
inventory
greater.
But
there's
no
sense
in
just
avoiding
the
problem.
You
know
if
it's,
if
you
need
a
broadband
connectivity
to
function,
especially
during
pandemic,
then
the
cost
of
that
ought
to
be
reflected
in
the
calculated.
G
G
I
think,
would
be
an
important
policy
piece
because
for
arlington
of
arlington
county's,
affordable
master
plan,
if
we
can't,
if
we
can
get
people
in
affordable
housing,
but
they
don't
have
or
get
house
enough
housing
units
that
are
affordable
for
the
population
that,
but
they
don't
have
access
to
data,
then
you
know
what
are
they
doing
and
I
think
that's
frankly,
one
of
the
big
arguments
in
favor
of
the
the
advocacy
point
for
that
arlington
fiber
has
been
pushing,
which
is
we
we
lower
the
cost
of
living
right
cost
of
living.
G
Is
the
biggest,
in
my
view,
I've
said
it
before
I'll,
say
again,
the
biggest
economic
challenge
facing
arlington
county
and
and
if
we
can
take
40
off
someone's
utility
bills
because
they've
gone
from
you
know,
60
bucks
to
20
bucks
a
month
on
their
internet.
G
A
It
is-
and
I
know
we
remember
when
we
had
the
housing
commission,
my
counterpart,
the
chair
of
the
housing
commission.
Here
we
wanted
to
have
that
as
one
of
the
you
know,
high-speed
internet
being
one
of
the
parts
of
the
package,
and
there
was
there's
some
concern
about
putting
yet
another.
But
I
I
think
I
think
the
case
is
logical
and
makes
sense.
So,
let's
so,
let's.
G
A
Yep
yeah
good;
no,
these
are
all
these
are.
These
are
good,
so
keep
keep
thinking
about
that.
We're
going
to
revisit
we'll
put
this
back
on
the
we'll
put
this
back
on
the
the
list.
The
agenda
for
may.
A
A
As
all
of
you
probably
recall,
we
have
a.
We
do
have
a
specific
role
to
play
because
we
do
a
60-day
whenever
that,
whenever
this
unfolds-
and
we
come
to
that
point,
the
commission
has
a
public
public
session
that
has
to
be
advertised
in
a
certain
amount
of
time,
and
then
we
hold
it
and
have
people
give
feedback
and
and
make
comment,
so
we
do
have
a
a
specific
role
to
play.
So
louise,
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
today
and
giving
us
your
your
sense
about
where,
where
things
are.
L
Sure
the
original
france
franchise
agreement
between
verizon
and
the
county
ran
until
from
2000
june
of
2006
to
june
of
2021,
and
it
was
extended
till
june
of
20
of
2022.
L
The
county
came
to
me
last
month
and
asked
if
we
would
concur
with
another
extension
through
june
of
2023,
which
we
did
I'm
sure
I
got
the
thing
back
to
richard.
I
don't
know
10
days
ago
or
whatever.
So
if
the
county
board
hasn't
hasn't
approved,
it
I'm
sure
it's
pending,
so
we
have
the
the
term
is
now
through
june
of
2023.
L
The
county
also
came
to
me.
I
don't
know
early
in
the
year
and
said
that
they
were
going
to
conduct
a
technical
audit.
Several
jurisdictions
have
done
this,
and
the
county
is
using
a
technical
auditing
firm
that
I
have
worked
with
on
audits
for
other
jurisdictions.
So
I
mean
you
know.
I
know
these
people
have
worked
with
them.
We
had
a
kickoff
call
early
last
week,
maybe
ten
days
ago
it
all
runs.
It
all
runs
together.
Basically,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
fairly
straightforward.
L
The
technical
auditing
form
the
firm
basically
said
that
they
really
just
needed
to
do
a
a
phone
call
with
one
of
the
head-end
engineers
and
I'm
basically
running
down
the
person
who
can
have
that
conversation
with
them.
But
my
point
is
that,
of
course,
the
county
could
decide
that
they,
you
know,
want
to
have
other
things
they
want
to
test,
but
it's
my
sense
that
it
should
be
fairly
straightforward.
L
So
unless
something
blows
up,
I
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
take
a
great
amount
of
time
so
in
terms
of
when
we
would
probably
start
actually
talking.
Probably
I
think
late
summer
in
the
fall
and
we've
obviously
got
a
number
of
these
in
the
pipeline.
We
had
a
number
of
agreements
in
virginia
all
expired
in
2021,
and
I
actually
had
one
being
prince
william
county
that
actually,
oh
no
sorry
virginia
beach,
that
expired
in
2016
and
prince
william
expired
in
2018
and
they're
just
extended
and
extended.
L
So
now
we
have
this
huge
bolus
kind
of
going
through
the
snake,
but
it's
all
good,
I'm
not
going
anywhere,
and
but
I
think
that
we'll
probably
expect
that
we
will
probably
start
talking
in
earnest
in
the
late
summer.
Early
fall
so.
A
I
I
just
couldn't
find
my
button
fast
enough
to
put
my
hand
up
sorry,
I
was
for
for
another
purpose:
I've
been
going
back
and
re-reading
cips
and,
of
course,
we're
in
cip
season
right
now
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
struck
by,
which
was
not
what
I
was
supposed
to
be
looking
at,
was
the
technology
section
in
each
of
these,
and
there
is
a
heavy
technology
section
in
the
cip,
and
it
just
occurred
to
me
that
we're
somewhat
remiss
in
focusing
all
our
attention
on
the
operating
budget,
since
the
systems
are
being
funded
under
capital,
improvement
and
they're
all
under
one
and
here's
a
place
where
they
are
in
one
place,
they're
all
under
something
called
technology,
and
so
you
can
go
back,
go
in
there
and
look
and
there's
page
after
page
after
page-
and
I
don't
know
that
anyone's
looking
at
these,
so
my
thought
was
well,
we
don't
have
a
cip
out
and
we're
not
making
recommendations
to
the
cip.
I
We
might
want
to
plan
in
in
may
when,
when,
when
it
becomes
available
and
before
july,
when
it
becomes
adopted,
we
might
want
to
plan
to
take
a
look
at
the
technology
section
of
the
cip.
It's
just
a
thought.
It
just
seems
like
I
had.
It
was
like
tip
of
the
iceberg
and
I
I
was
almost
went
down
the
rabbit
hole,
but
I
had
a
deadline
on
my
other
activity,
so
I
pass
it
on
to
you.
I
I
think
the
the
yeah
the
schedule
is
they're
taking
input.
Now
I
think
the
manager
puts
out
his
in
may
and
then
there's
comment
in
june
and
then
it's
adopted
in
july.
A
Oh
great
and
then
tim
thanks
tim
also
added
something
about
the
county,
is
adding
some
criteria
about
broadband
access
to
its
process
for
evaluating
requests
for
funds
for
affordable
housing
loans,
which
is
good
all
right.
That's
good,
good
data!
Thank
you.
Thanks
tim,
so.
F
On
tim,
go
ahead
mike,
hey
jackie,
I
I
think
what
you
just
brought
up
about
the
capital
plans
is
crucial
and
I
think
it's
also
consistent
and
I
like
the
credentials
of
our
newest
member,
because
I
think
we've
previously
come
to
the
conclusion
that
our
idea
of
trying
to
get
arlington
to
go
from
I'll
say
maturity
level
zero
to
something
higher
on
its
information.
Technology,
governance
and
management
generally
is
probably
not
going
to
get
any
traction
but
hooking
on
to
the
existing
approvals
of
funds,
availability
and
funds.
F
A
Okay
but
see
we
did
have
a
few
more
comments
and
questions
good,
well,
good,
good
discussions,
and
we
also
have
for
may
we'll
have
we'll
have
the
the
minutes
from
april
and
march,
and
we
have
someone
who
some
of
you
know.
A
Joe
pelton
will
be
briefing
us
on
some
of
the
things
they're
doing
with
smart
cities,
and
I
think
you'll
find
it
interesting
joe
held
the
was
chair
of
the
tech
commission
for
a
a
good
good
many
years,
so
he
he'll
be
he'll,
be
coming
home
next
next
month,
good
all
right!
Well,
I
am
now.
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.
J
A
All
those
opposed
anyone
want
to
stay
a
little
little
more
all
right.
Thank
you
all
some
really
good
conversations
and
some
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
revisit,
and
I
will
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
in
may
all
right,
take
care.