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A
Things
in
a
very
secure
and
safe
manner
from
a
financial
impact,
it's
expected
to
be
minimal.
The
goods
and
services
are
being
donated
by
u.s,
ignite
and
cci
and
comcast.
We,
the
county,
is
responsible
for
the
pole
mounting
so
approximately
11
of
them,
and
it's
about
13
thousand
dollars
to
reimburse
for
the
des
at
staff
time.
A
You
know,
given
that,
the
time
that
we
are
financially,
I
think
this
is
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
to
to
utilize
the
the
donation,
but
also
to
recognize
that
this
is
coming
it's
happening,
and
so
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
us
as
a
county
part
of
the
engagement
talking
to
you
guys
as
part
of
the
engagement,
but
also
making
sure
you
know
as
we're
moving
forward
that
people
are
aware
of
what
we're
doing
and
at
the
end
of
this,
the
plan
is
for
us
to
make
a
recommend
a
recommendation
to
the
county
manager
upon
the
completion
of
the
pilot
sarah.
A
This
is
this
is
what
we
found
out.
This
is
what's
happening
and
what
we
think
we
should
do
going
forward.
I
I
want
to
say
again:
I
think
I
I
might
have
not
gotten
into
the
detail,
but
going
back
to
the
data
piece.
I
want
to
make
sure
people
realize
that
said:
it's
not
using
pictures,
it's
not
using
cell
phone
data.
It
is
all
anonymized
based
on.
I
keep
using
the
technical
word
blobs
that
they're.
A
I
don't
want
to
even
say
images
because
it's
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
think
that
it's
images
of
individuals
there's
no
way
you
could
tell
any
information
identifying
information
about
a
person.
The
data
is
not
going
to
be
stored
ever
by
a
third
party.
What
happens
is
when
the
what
we
defined
it's
captured
and
immediately
sent
to
the
county.
A
So
there
is
nothing
nothing
to
throw
away,
nothing
to
be
captured
at
all
by
the
third
party,
it's
called
edge
processing
and
then
really
we're
focusing
on
data
that
we're
already
using
in
other
ways
whether
it's
you
know
a
line
of
sight
by
a
public
safety
or
in
some
cases,
cameras.
So
this
is
a
way
to
kind
of
for
us
to
compare.
A
How
are
we
getting
this
data
and
how
does
it
compare
to
other
mechanisms
that
we
have
and
how
is
it
better
and
how
is
it
worse?
I
also
want
to
kind
of
talk
about
where
the
location
is
so
the
the
location.
So
we
we
chose
the
the
clarendon
area
and
we're
working
with
public
safety
right
now
to
ensure
that
this
is
the
the
best
location.
A
But
a
couple
of
factors
played
into
this
when
we
originally
started
the
conversation.
It
was
back
in
the
summer
and
we
were
thinking
about.
She
would
be
doing
something
related
to
kovid
tracking,
like
how
many
people
are
wearing
masks
or
how
many
people
are.
You
know,
gathering
an
area
and
thinking
that.
A
Well,
maybe
that's
not
necessarily
the
the
right
direction
of
where
we
want
to
head,
but
looking
for
somewhere
where
there
were
a
lot
of
people
and
where
you'd
have
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
compare
the
the
pedestrian
traffic,
the
types
of
buildings
that
are
there,
so
this
area
in
clarendon,
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
familiar
with
the
2900
block,
specifically
there's
a
lot
of
activity
both
day
and
night
on
the
southern
side.
A
In
the
bottom
here
is
where
mexicali
blues
is,
and
the
top
is
the
ambar,
and
I
can't
remember
the
what
businesses
are
on
the
other
side.
The
other
thing
is
that
there
are
light
poles
that
the
county
owns
in
this
area
as
well
as
comcast
infrastructure,
so
so
we're
still
working
with
public
safety
for
them
to
look
at
other
areas.
To
make
sure
is
this
the
best
place,
we're
leaning
towards
that
that
it
is
based
on
the
several
other
factors,
but
they're
just
confirming
it.
A
The
other
thing
I
want
to
highlight
is
that
is
the
what
the
hardware
is
going
to
look
like
so
there's
two
different
types,
colonial
and
cobra,
the
colonials
that
looks
very
similar
to
what
our
colonial
light.
I
think
ours
is
a
different
color
and
this
will
be
painted
into
that
different
color
and
then
the
cobra
style
light,
and
so
it
looks
very
similar
to
our
cobra
style
light,
as
I've
mentioned
before
I
said,
I
think
it's
important.
A
You
know
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
educating
ourselves
and,
in
a
very
you
know,
confined
small
pilot,
because
these
things
are
happening
and
what's
the
impact
going
to
be
around
us
anyway,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
we're
aware
and
then
also
be
with
the
different
oversight,
that's
being
provided
by
cci
by
u.s
ignite
by
our
own
internal
staff,
making
sure
that
the
the
data,
privacy
and
security
aspect
is
is
being
considered
from
multiple
different
angles
as
we're
moving
forward.
C
This
is
fascinating
and
it's
it's
so
one
of
my
first
questions
is:
are
you
working
with
the
clarendon
alliance
with
the
lion
village,
civic
association
and
the
restaurant
initiative,
all
three
of
whom
are
have
been
intensely
involved
with
public
safety
in
those
areas,
including
pedestrian
safety?.
A
So
the
the
original
conversation
started
not
with
the
clarendon
alliance
board,
but
with
members
of
the
clarion
deadlines
and
the
businesses,
and
that
was
kind
of
what
caused
some
of
the
pivot
with
that
with
that
said,
so
now
we're
trying
to
refine
where
we
are
coming
to
you
guys
as
a
step,
but
I
also
think
kind
of
the
conversations
with
the
community
around
as
planned.
It's
going
as
we're
going
through
the
process
as
well.
C
The
biggest
pedestrian
issues
are,
and
I'm
surprised
that
you
don't
have
end
up
with
the
two
intersections
that
are
highland
street,
because
they're,
because
the
clarendon
highland
intersection
on
one
side
of
the
metro
stop
and
then
the
wilson
highland
intersection
on
the
other
is
when
you
get
a
lot
of
passenger
traffic
of
people
coming
and
going
from
the
restaurants
that
are
basically
downstream
on
wilson
and
downstream
on
clarendon
so
and
it's
very
difficult
to
drive
through
there
at
any
time
because
of
the
pedestrian
traffic.
C
So
that's
an
interesting
mix,
whereas
it
is
a
little
bit
lighter
a
block
off,
which
is
what
you're
talking
about.
C
Alliance,
yes,
but
that's
why
maybe
also
going
to
the
civic
association.
E
Okay,
hi
holly.
My
question
is:
how
did
you
select
the
particular
location
neighborhood
and
can
another
community
be
on
the
wait
list?
Because
we
have
a
big
issue
here
at
columbia,
pike
where
I'm
situated
and
we're
working
with
the
transit
bureau
and
I'm
wondering
if
any
of
the
technology
will
include
anything
related
to
parking
devices.
A
So
so
on,
let's
say
make
sure
it
breaks
down.
So
on
the
first
question
about:
is
there
a
potential
to
look
at
other
places?
Potentially?
Yes,
I
think
this
is
where
part
of
the
reason
I
think
that
they
were
looking
for
high
pedestrian
trade
traffic,
which
is
why
the
the
clarendon
area
seemed
to
be
from
public
safety,
one
of
the
highest
areas
of
pedestrian
traffic,
not
saying
that
there
aren't
others,
but
they're
going
back
and
looking
at
their
information
now
that
so
we
can
confirm
that
this
is
the
best
place.
A
The
other
piece
is
the
the
right
types
of
infrastructure:
I'm
not
familiar
off
the
top
of
my
head
with
where
our
our
polls
are
located
and
where
they
would
be
located
as
well
as
where
comcast
has
infrastructure.
So
I
think
it's
all.
It's
all
good
input
to
take
as
we're
kind
of
making
we're
making
sure
is
this.
The
is
this
the
best
location,
yeah.
D
The
option
yeah,
I
could
hardly
the
option
at
the
indonesia
that
at
the
end
of
the
year,
hopefully
this
is
successful
and
we've
proven
this
real
value
to
the
community.
We've
been
talking
about
the
fact
that
we're
known
as
the
20th
century
model
for
the
20th
century
in
terms
of
delivery
of
services.
Well,
regrettably,
women
were
approaching
the
third
decade
of
the
21st
century.
You
know
and
all
these
technologies
are
coming
to
bear
what
I
know.
Comcast
and
they've
been
great
to
work
with
us
and
they'll
put
this
anywhere.
B
D
End
of
the
12
months
and
say:
could
this
be
done
in
other
places
and
and
again
like
in
an
effort
of
collegial
con?
You
know
it's
not
competition.
Can
we
compliment
each
other
in
terms
of
they
have
infrastructure?
We
don't
in
this
one
case
we
don't
have
any
fiber
there,
and
so
if
they
could
stand
up
something
for
us
that
we
could
learn
from
then
maybe
there
are
other
areas
in
the
community
before
and
certainly
they're
very
interested.
D
You
should
know
that
comcast
says
we're
just
we're,
not
the
only
city
they're,
looking
at
community
they're,
looking
at
philadelphia,
they're
looking
at
greensboro
harley,
I
think.
D
Greensboro,
and
so
we,
this
is
a
wonderful
opportunity
in
tight
budget
times
to
dip
our
toes
into
this
learning
laboratory
and
see
what
might
happen.
A
The
other
thing
denise
to
your
other
question
about
parking.
I
think
that
is
an
interest.
I
think
we
were
trying
with
the
what's
really
cool
about
the
technology.
Basically
have
it
do
whatever
we
want
it
to,
but
we're
trying
once
again,
let's
take
it
very
small
and
and
we're
focusing
specifically
on
that
that
public
safety
pedestrian
safety
first,
but
there
is
the
capability
to
expand
it
to
well.
Well
beyond
that,
but
I
think
when
you
start
expanding,
I'm
not
saying
that
parking
is
not
a.
A
B
All
right:
well,
we
have
three
three
in
the
lineup
and
that's
probably
going
to
be
we'll.
We
might
have
to
send
you
some
more
questions
holly
but
kevin,
kevin,
john
and
then
mike
so
kevin
you're
up.
F
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Holly
I
was
hoping
you
could
provide
a
little
additional
detail
on
the
actual
technology.
You
talked
about
the
information
being
collected
being
anonymized,
but
still
you
said
you
can
monitor
movement
of
people.
It
sounds
like
it
has
the
capability
to
distinguish
people
or
even
wearing
masks,
and
it
sounds
like
there
might
be
some
public
private
issues
associated
with
that,
and
I
wonder
also
are
you
going
to
share
this
information
with
law
enforcement.
A
So
the
let's
make
sure
I
take
all
these
questions
the
right
way.
The
capability
is
there
to
do
a
lot.
We
are
not
we
are.
We
are
not
doing
anything
that
we
think
would
put
the
the
data
privacy
and
the
personal
information
of
a
person
at
risk.
So
there
is
no
the
way
that
we're
using
the
sensors
we're
not
getting.
We
don't
see,
there's
no
person,
that's
identifiable
at
all,
there's
nothing
that
we
will
ever
have
or
anybody
will
ever
have
that
could
identify
a
person
with
what
we're
doing.
A
What
was
you?
Are
you
staring
with
public
safety?
Yes
with
our
watch
desk,
so
coming
up
with
the
use
cases
and
the
data
that's
being
generated,
we're
working
very
closely
with
our
public
safety,
specifically
with
the
fire
department
to
have
them
look
and
for
the
metrics
okay,
their
response
time
they're
in
for
the
situational
awareness.
A
So
it's
not
just
the
response
time,
but
it's
how
much
information
they
have
when
they
are
responding,
how
there
are
nuances
that
might
impact
the
quality
of
the
response
that
they
have
so
we're
working
with
them
for
them
to
look
at
what
are
they?
What
are
some
of
the
challenges?
What
are
some
of
the
things
that
were,
they
would
be
looking
to
improve,
so
we
could
build
that
into
the
metrics
that
we're
trying
to
capture
okay
and.
A
There
there's
there's
some
information
that
we
have
in
a
summary
document.
I
don't
know
if
it's
going
deep
enough
for
you,
but
that
I
have
that
that
could
be
available.
F
B
G
G
I
trust
that
you're
not
doing
anything
that
you
think
would
violate
those
issues
and
while
the
design
of
the
capability
is
such
that
it
wouldn't
violate
any
of
those
issues,
how
does
the
public
verify
that
independently,
and
so
I
think,
it'd
be
really
critical
to
be
able
to
describe
that
to
the
public
and
and
have
them
be
able
to
validate
that
those
privacy
concerns
are
being
taken
very
seriously,
and
it's
not
a
just
trust
us
type
approach.
A
That's
why
we,
I
think
we
have
the
the
multiple
parties
looking
at
this,
to
make
sure
that
as
we're
moving
forward,
we're
considering
that
and
understanding
where
it.
Where
are
we
sitting
with
with
kind
of
keeping
that
trust,
because
I
think
you're
right.
That
is
a
big
piece
of
this.
You
know
I
mentioned
earlier
staying
within
our
swim
lane,
but
you
know
what
does
that
mean
within
within
the
swim
lane
and
making
sure
that
people
understand
where
we're
moving?
So,
yes,
I
think
that
the
goal
is.
H
Hi
holly
hi
later
on
our
agenda.
We
have
a
more
general
set
of
principles
and
policies
that
we've
been
thinking
about.
That
would
inform
exactly
this
type
of
I'll
say,
responsible
experimentation.
H
One
of
the
takeaways
from
my
research
on
this
is
that
it's
usually
not
as
productive
when
the
technology
is
installed
and
we
ask
ourselves
the
question:
hey:
what
could
we
do
with
that
and
it's
much
more
productive
when
we
say
to
the
commercial
providers,
something
for
example,
as
our
interest
here
is
pedestrian
safety,
and
so
so
here's
a
set
of
metrics
or
policy
outcomes
that
we're
looking
for.
H
Can
you
give
us
a
technology
that
will
help
deliver
that
outcome,
and-
and
so
so
maybe
we'll
get
through
this
later
on
today
and
we'll
make
it
available
to
you,
but
both
your
last
presentation
on
equity
and
this,
which
I'm
I'm
enthusiastic
about
how
we
get
our
arms
around
this
thing.
Both
of
those,
I
think,
would
have
been
benefited
in
some
way.
If
we
could
put
forth
this
set
of
principles
and
recommendations,
because
just
as
john
was
stating
in
a
very
principled
way
about
privacy,
we've
we've
been
working
on
some
thoughts.
H
That
would
give
this
type
of
guidance
and
and
I'll
say
in
closing.
I
know
it's
always
going
to
be
give
and
take.
You
know,
because
a
lot
of
the
innovation
is
going
to
come
from
the
commercial
space
and
we're
going
to
have
to
learn
from
them
and
then
they're
going
to
have
to
learn
from
us.
But
generally
speaking,
if
the
public
sector
can
be
clear
about
the
outcomes
that
it's
pursuing,
then
a
lot
of
problems
can
often
be
avoided.
B
I
A
So
so
one
of
the
we
are
performing,
we
will
be
performing
a
privacy
impact
assessment.
It's
a
tool
that
we
have
internally,
that
we
will
be
doing
on
this
project.
I
A
A
B
Great
thank
you.
Now
we're
going
to
move
to
meeting
minutes
and
angela
sent
out
a
new,
a
new
rendition,
because
a
couple
of
you
found
things
before
we.
We
even
came
to
this
meeting
so
angela,
could
you
just
highlight,
I
know
frank,
had
a
few
edits.
John,
I
think
had
a
few
edits
was.
What
am
I
missing?
Angela.
B
B
J
B
Thank
you
very
much
all
right,
all
those
in
favor,
any
abstentions,
all
right!
Thank
you
and
angela,
it's
so
nice
to
have
those
minutes
done
every
month.
Thank
you,
so
much
a
quick,
a
quick
housekeeping,
we're
scheduled
for
december
23rd.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
don't
know
what
what
people's
plans
are
around
the
holidays.
Obviously
it's
it's
kwanzaa!
It's
christmas.
It's
hanukkah!
I
mean
we
have
all
kinds
of
holidays
around
that
so
are
you?
E
B
Okay,
so
the
week
before
do
do
people
can
people
make
that
then.
B
Okay,
great
all
right,
so
we'll
move
it
we'll
move
it
a
week,
angela,
if
we
can
just
note
that
so
that
we
don't
we'll
we'll
we'll
meet
a
week
before
and
we'll
get
that
done.
Okay,
now
thank
you
and
we
only
have
two
more
two
more
items
and
they're
both
really
important
mike.
You
want
to
take
it
away
with
the
digital
planning
and
then,
as
usual.
Our
final
batter
will
be
frank.
H
Okay,
yes,
I'd
be
happy
to
I'd.
Ask
you
to
just
transport
yourself
back
to
our
meeting
two
months
ago
september
23rd.
I
believe
it
was
when
I
went
through
a
a
deck
of
powerpoint
slides
entitled
digital
arlington,
a
starting
kit
for
transforming
digital
planning.
I
won't
try
to
take
you
back
through
that
again
I'll.
H
Just
say
that
the
very
last
slide
in
that
presentation
posed
a
series
of
next
steps,
and
one
of
them
was
to
as
a
commission
take
action
on
a
40-page
white
paper
or
perhaps
the
distillation
of
the
principles
and
the
recommended
policies
out
of
that
similar
in
style
to
what
john
had
furnished
to
us
from
johns
hopkins
university
regarding
contact
tracing
for
the
pandemic
that
we
sent
forward
before
we
did
not
turn
back
to
that
last
month.
H
We
have
been
aware
that
there's
possibly
other
you
know,
developments
inside
the
county.
You
know
that
would
create
documents
that
would
similarly
suggest
some
generic
or
kind
of
across-the-board
ideas
about
broadband
and
digital
services
planning
and-
and
I
think
our
intention
was
to
sort
of
marry
them
up.
You
know
to
try
to
make
sure
they
go
forward
at
about
the
same
time.
H
I,
the
the
next
recommendation
on
next
steps,
was
to
begin
a
public
engagement
process.
You
know
around
this
notion
of
digital
planning,
which
at
present
does
not
exist
within
the
county.
There
is
a
state
legislative
mandate
to
begin
to
plan
and,
and
our
the
position
taken
in
the
white
paper
is
that
arlington
should
of
course
meet
the
mandate,
but
also
look
at
that.
H
Pretty
broadly
you
know,
sort
of
along
the
lines
of
some
of
the
projects
we've
talked
about
is
how
how
would
arlington
go
about
planning
the
digital
space
to
address
digital
equity?
How
would
it
go?
Go
forward
planning
the
digital
space
to
address
public
safety.
You
know
so
some
of
these
issues
are
quite
predictably
coming
up,
and
some
of
them
have
really
been
thrust
to
the
fore
by
the
pandemic,
those
being
disease,
contract
tracing
and
virtual
schooling.
H
So
what
what
I
sent
to
marry
on
monday
and
I'm
not
sure
if
people
received
it,
was
literally
just
a
cut-and-paste
excerpt
from
the
40-page
paper
that
pulls
out
only
the
principles
and
the
related
recommended
policies
for
each.
It
runs
about
three
pages
long
and
then
eight
right,
eight
right.
B
H
Yeah
eight
principles
and
a
set
of
policies
that
are
derived
from
each
of
those
and
then
monday,
night
of
this
week
I
sent
a
transmittal
letter
modeled
after
the
one
that
was
used
for
the
contract
tracing
and
so
for
me
tonight
a
home
run
would
be
do
we
want
to
send
this
forward
so
that
it
can
be
available
to
those
people
in
the
county
who
are
working
on
projects
that
might
benefit
from
these
thoughts.
H
There
really
isn't
an
opportunity
on
today's
agenda
to
have
a
very
lengthy
discussion
about
it,
although
I
would
be
more
than
happy
to
respond
to
any
questions
that
folks
have,
and
I
know
people
have
had
the
document
at
their
disposal,
for
I
don't
know
a
couple
of
months
now,
so
so
why
don't?
I
stop
talking
and
sort
of
start
listening
and
see
where
we
want
to
go
from
here.
F
G
So
mike,
I
really
appreciate,
as
I
said
last
time,
the
the
you
know
paper
that
you
put
together,
I
thought
it
was,
is
wide-ranging
and
comprehensive.
I
also
agree
that
we
can't
wait.
G
We
need
to
get
moving,
especially
given
the
legislative
mandate,
and
I
feel
like
this
should
be
kind
of
pro
forma
for
us,
given
that
this
was
substantially
the
content
of
the
revised
charter
that
we
put
forward
and
that
the
county
board
approved
and
puts
this
type
of
policy
guidance
firmly
within
the
tech
commission's
area
of
of
domain
and
policy
guidance
to
the
board.
So
there's
no
one
else
who
is
gonna
recommend
this
to
the
board,
and
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
us
to
do
it.
G
My
only
edit
to
your
so.
Your
document
would
to
potentially
assert
that
the
tech
commission
should
be
either
at
least
in
a
lead,
or
at
least
maybe
a
lead,
or
at
least
an
advisory
role
in
the
development
of
that
digital
services
master
plan
and
and
participate
in
the
public
engagement
process.
That
is
sure
to
follow
in
its
development.
H
D
Jack,
hey
I'll,
wait
away
analyst
all
right.
I
think
they
were
good
mike.
I
think
you
laid
out
some
good
points
there
we're
looking
forward.
We,
the
manager,
looking
forward
to
seeing
the
results
of
the
digital
services
working
group
just
from
working,
see
where
they
come
in
and
then
we'd
be
able.
I
think
we
need
to
look
take
it,
take
a
step
back
and
look
at
what
you're
proposing
how
that
how
that
could
inform
what
they've
been
working
on
and
that
that's
gonna
be
quite
helpful.
D
I
think
the
bigger
issue,
though
I
think
we're
gonna,
be
facing
as
we
go
forward
like
somebody
mentioned
this,
I
think
it
may
have
been
john,
the
time
clock
sticking.
You
know
we
we're
talking
about.
We
just
ended
up
having
a
discussion
about
the
whole
area
of
municipal
iot
information
iot,
which
you
know
there's
the
privacy
public
privacy
lines
are
blurred
in
that
yeah.
D
Yeah
and
our
elected
officials
not
be
very
candid.
If
they
were
here
with
me,
they
I
think
they
would
agree.
It's
a
different
world.
You
know
it's,
they
they're
used
to
a
world
where
they
manage
control,
they
say
okay,
this
is
what
we're
gonna
do
and
no
one
else
gonna
do
anything
else,
but
the
telecom
operators
see
big
money
in
this.
You
know
we're
putting
up
5g
polls
they're,
putting
things
into
antennas.
Who
knows
what
they're
collecting
for
information?
And
what
can
we
do?
D
You
know
if
you
look
at
the
city
of
chicago
what
they
do,
they
lay
out
a
whole
policy
of
privacy.
They
say
here's
what
we're
doing,
here's,
what
we're
collecting
here's
the
data,
we're
gonna,
prevent
and
then
at
the
end
of
it
they
say
by
the
way,
if
you
want
to
find
out
what
the
telecommunication
industry
is
doing,
here's
the
website
to
go,
find
it,
and
so
you
go
out
and
find
it.
You
get
just
just
blurry
information,
it
doesn't
say
anything
about
it
and
then
the
other
thing
that's
happening
is
becoming
inter-jurisdictional.
D
It's
the
lines
of
being
connect
dmv,
which
is
a
major
effort
out
of
the
board
of
trade,
to
define
how
we're
going
to
share
information
across
the
region
is
coming
up.
So
arlington
won't
have
the
error
of
arlington
saying
we're
going
to
have
a
board
meeting
we're
going
to.
This
is
the
way
it's
going
to
be
and
that's
it.
D
It
won't
happen
any
longer,
but
we
can
contribute
to
the
definition
of
a
policy
and
that
policy,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
more
than
just
what
are
we
doing
internally
collecting
information
and
how
we're
sharing
it?
But
how
do
we
deal
with
this?
This
iot
is
coming
on
us
and
the
ai
is
going
to
follow
in
with
that
and
and
at
the
minimum.
I
think
we
have
to.
D
We
have
to
it's
uncomfortable
to
have
this
discussion
and
you
know
we
like
to
think
that
we
could
have
one
meeting
of
the
itac
and
we
could
make
advice
to
the
board
and
it's
done,
but
it
won't
happen.
You
know,
I
know
jonathan,
I
love
jonathan
adelstein
still
on
and
frank,
but
this
is
really.
This
has
happened
in
every
community
around
the
country
and
we're
gonna
have
to
address
it.
So
I
really
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
mike
to
put
that
together,
because
it's
it's
a
set
of
principles.
D
Not
are
we
all
gonna
agree
with
it?
No,
but
you
know
what
we're
going
to
have
a
discussion
about
what
would
work,
what
won't
work
and
what
can
we
come
for
a
cup?
You
know
to
get
something
that
works
because
we
don't.
As
john
said
it's
going
to
take
us
over
before
we
have
before
we
even
know
it
it's
going
to
go
right
by
us.
So
I'll
stop
talking.
B
No,
no
that's
great
david.
I
To
offer
support,
not
necessarily
for
the
eight
principles,
although
I
like
those
two,
but
specifically
for
adding
a
12th
slice
for
broadband
and
digital
services
to
the
county's
comprehensive
plan.
I
think
that
is
a
super
important
part
of
the
letter,
and
that's
the
bit
that
I
want
to
signal
extra
support
for
an
extra
focus
on.
B
Okay,
so
so
what
david?
If
I'm
hearing
you
correctly,
then
what
you'd
like
to
see
is
next
in
december,
when
we
meet
a
a
letter
that
does
have
that
kind
as
as
the
lead
in
terms
of
adding
that
12th
element
and
here's
some
of
the
thinking
that's
gone
behind
some
principles.
That
again
are
the
first
draft
of
from
the
tech
commission,
but
need
public
engagement,
discussion
and
all
those
things
is
that
reflective.
Does
that
make
sense?
I
mean.
I
That
that
makes
sense,
although
I'm
not
sure
that's
what
I
was
saying-
100,
because
I'm
looking
at
the
letter
now
and
I
see
that
the
first,
the
second
paragraph
is
about
that.
So
like
I
just
I
noted
that
that
element
was
present
and
I
really
wanted
to
emphasize
that
because
I
think,
while
mike
was
talking
about
the
eight
principles,
I
think
we've
got
to
get
off
into
the
county's
comprehensive
plan
and
that's.
B
B
Okay,
so
mike
does,
that
is
that
enough?
I,
I
don't
think
you're
gonna
get
your
home
run
tonight.
G
Well,
I
I
I
feel
like
david,
that
the
letter
as
written
does
exactly
what
you
say
and,
and
mary
kind
of
does
exactly
what
you
say.
As
I
read
it,
it
says
we're
proposing
to
add
a
12th
slice
and
we're
offering
these
principles
and
recommended
policies,
and
you
know
unless
someone
has
has
critical
feedback
on
those
principles
and
the
document
that
mike
produced
as
wanting
to
change
it.
G
I
think
it's,
I
don't
think
it's
presented
in
a
way
that
says
this
is
the
last
word,
but
this
is
kind
of
a
framing
of
the
issue
and
how
we
could
go
about
thinking
about
it.
For
people
who
probably
haven't
been
thinking
about
this
in
a
lot
of
depth,
and
so
I
I
really
I
would
unless
there
was
someone
who's
dreadfully
opposed
to
it.
I
would
be
interested
in
motioning
to
approve
the
letter
tonight.
B
Okay,
all
right
so
on
the
floor
to
pass
the
letter
as
written
and
present
that
to
the
board.
G
And
where
I'm
absolutely
willing
to
entertain,
you
know
friendly
amendments
or
or
people
who
want
to
table
it.
But
if
you
know,
but
if
it's
just
silence,
then
I
think
there's
no
time
like
the
present,
given
the
clog
is
ticking
so.
H
All
right,
I
of
course
favor
moving
ahead
with
it,
I'm
a
little
bit
troubled
by
the
universal
agreement.
The
time
is
of
the
essence
and
that
the
result
of
that
is
inaction,
and
so
so
I
would
take
a
position
that
I
am
completely
willing
to
listen
to
anybody
who
says
this
first
stab
at
it
got
a
couple
things
wrong
that
might
happen
within
the
county
staff
that
might
happen
in
public
engagement.
That
might
happen
right
within
this
commission,
and
I
have
no
problem
with
that.
H
I'm
trying
to
invite
consideration
and
improvements
to
this,
but
if
everybody
is
waiting
for
somebody
else
to
do
this,
my
fear
is,
it
won't
happen
at
all
and
that
we're
in
a
very
good
position
to
put
something
on
the
table
and
draw
out
the
public
engagement
and
the
county
staff
engagement
and
the
county
elected
officials.
Engagement.
H
There's,
there's
no
point
of
no
return
on
this.
It's
more
like
a
point
of
embarkation,
absolutely.
B
H
H
David
because
they
were
the
folks
who
had
been
engaged
in
the
creation
of
the
task
force
and
then
as
soon
as
I
shared
it
with
the
membership
of
the
counts
of
this
commission
back
in
september,
I
went
ahead
with
permission
and
sent
it
to
the
other
broadband
and
digital
services
task
force
members,
so
that
in
grand
totals
about
you,
know,
10
more
people.
But
those
are
the
only
non
I.t
commission
members
who
have
had
access
to
the
doctor.
B
H
I
I
would
add
also
that
we've
been
thinking,
at
least
for
the
adding
the
12th
slice
six
months
to
a
year
and.
E
B
D
Yeah,
maybe.
B
D
Just
wanted
to
make
to
my
is
you
know,
would
be
helpful
mike
to
give
some
thought
to
how
this
would
roll
out
with
the
framework
for
having
this
discussion.
I
know
way
back
when,
when
you-
and
I
and
ken
sat
there
enjoying
some
good
wine
in
a
public
space,
be
able
to
communicate
much
better
than
we
do
over
this
team's
meeting.
But
laying
out
you
know,
taking
the
lead
on
that
and
being
the
primary
point
of
advice
is
advisory
to
the
to
the
board.
D
How
do
you
inform
what
groups
in
what
time
period
to
arrive
at
this
discussion,
because
it's
really,
as
we
talked
about
earlier
with
earlier
this
morning,
with
tim,
tim
dempsey,
in
terms
of
what
he's
doing
he
raised
the
awareness
that
this
is
important?
Talking
about
broadband?
D
Is
that
the
issue-
and
I
think
it's
raising
the
awareness
that
what
you
and
ken
you
know
and
mary
initiated
months
ago
now,
but
it's
important
we're
not
just
doing
this,
because
you
know
we're
trying
to
fill
time
at
a
on
a
wednesday
night
here
and
it'd
be
helpful
to
really
lay
that
out,
because
the
boy's
going
to
ask
you
that
question
and
ask
that
question
about
who
should
be
involved?
Who
should
be
in
this
discussion?
How
do
we
arrive
at
consensus?
D
And
that's
that's
a
big,
that's,
a
big
challenge
right
there,
but
you're
well,
equipped
to
do
that.
I
mean
you
guys
have
all
got
that
experience.
You've
been
down
that
road,
so
I
don't
have
an
answer,
but
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
thought
out.
There
that'd
be
great
if
we
could
say,
look
down
the
road
and
say:
okay,
it's
it's
it's
november
2021.
H
D
H
I
agree:
that's
a
huge
big
step
and
one
that
I
haven't
really
considered
the
total
details
of,
but
I
would
say
the
the
model
that
we
just
heard
on
broadband
two
residences
is
more
of
a
grassroots
one,
and
I
was
hoping
to
do
something
that
at
least
conceptually
would
be
more
like
the
way
capital
improvement
planning
is
considered
in
arlington
yeah,
and
I
think
holly
has
much
more
experience
than
that
than
I
do.
But
I
was
hoping
we
could
sort
of
model
our
public
engagement
off
of
an
existing
mechanism
right.
G
Yeah
the
the
the
process
that
the
county
went
through
for
the
community
energy
plan
to
get
us
to
the
incredibly
bold
and
ambitious
goal.
That
dc
only
beat
us
to
by
a
couple
months
of
get
of.
You
know
proclaiming
that
we
get
to
net
net
zero
carbon
emissions.
G
That
is
the
type
of
process
that
I'd
be
I'd,
be
seeing
or
envisioning
for
this
type
of
comprehensive
plan
element.
B
All
right:
well,
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
and,
if
I
so
it's
the,
what
we're
voting
on
is
whether
this
is
with
no
edits.
It
sounds
like
no,
no
friendly
amendments
that
it
goes
to
the
is
sent
to
the
board
from
the
commission.
All
those
in
favor.
B
All
right
looks
like
we're
we're
past,
so
there
we
go
well
mike,
you
did
get
your
home
run,
see
that
yeah
now,
but
I
do
think
one
of
the
things
we
could
do.
John
and
mike
is
kind
of
outline
the
energy
and
you
remember,
we
had
the
the
environmental
people
brief
us
and
how
long
it
took
them
four
years
to
get
the
element
in
I'm
hoping
that
it's
not
four
years
for
us
to
get
the
element
in,
but
that
might
be
something
we
we
reference.
B
We
don't
have
to
do
in
the
letter,
but
I
think
we
we
could
reference.
I
can
certainly
mention
that
in
the
in
the
email
to
libby
right
in
terms
of
public
engagement,
okay,
thank
you.
All
we've
got
one
more
and
it's
like
the
baseball
player.
You
know
we
kind
of,
even
though
he's
he's
last
about
important
stuff,
frank
thanks.
So
much
and
I'm
sorry,
people
were
going
a
little
bit
over
tonight,
but
this
was
really
an
important
discussion.
So
thanks
for
your
thanks
for
your
patience
and
frank
over
to
you,
my
friend.
J
No,
it
is
important
and
we
had
actually
teed
this
up
with
the
board
anyway,
so
I
think
it's
important
so
there
this
won't
hit
them
as
a
surprise.
So
so
no,
I
think
it's
good.
It's
good
good
work
mike.
I
think
it's
an
important,
very
important
issue
anyway,
as
some
of
you
might
be
aware,
we
had
an
election
earlier
this
month.
H
J
To
say
that
an
fcc
review
team,
headed
by
a
government
attorney
formerly
at
the
sec,
john
williams,
not
the
composer
by
the
same
name
and
it
also
incl
hill
headed
up
but
also
on
there
importantly-
is
mignon
clyburn
daughter
of
jim
clyburn,
the
the
house
majority
whip,
who
happened
to
have
play
an
important
role
in
this
election.
So
mignon
was
formerly
a
commissioner
at
the
fcc.
J
I
believe,
I'm
not
sure
if
she
served
with
jonathan,
but
she
also
served
as
interim
chair
first
african-american
woman
to
serve
as
chair
of
the
fcc
in
between
tom
wheeler
and
julius
janikowski.
So
so
she
has
already
been
in
a
position
and
also
serving
on
the
review.
Team
is
edward
smitty,
smith
and
paul
desal,
both
who
had
been
at
the
fcc
previously
in
the
wheeler
fcc
and
anyhow
they'll,
be
tasked
with
you
know.
J
Looking
at
the
fcc
from
the
new
administration's
standpoint
and
the
new
president
does
get
to
name
the
new
chair
and
there's
already
been
a
fair
bit
of
speculation
as
to
who
may
who
that
may
be
jessica.
Rosen
warsaw
is
the
senior
democrat
on
the
fcc
now
so
she's
certainly
considered
a
contender,
mignon
clyburn.
If
she
is
interested
in
it,
probably
she
would
be
a
strong
contender
as
well
and
there
jeffrey
starks
is
the
other
currently
serving
democratic,
fcc.
J
Commissioner,
and
it's
possible
that
mignon
may
pull
a
dick
cheney.
He
was
on
the
the
transition
team
to
you
know,
help
name
the
vice
president
or
whatever
he
said
hey.
I
think
I'd
be
good
at
that,
so
we
may
get
anyhow
we're
also
going
to
have
some
changes
among
the
republican
commissioners
as
well.
Michael
reilly,
sir,
currently
serving
had
been
nominated
for
a
second
or
another
term.
J
I
think
it
might
actually
be
a
third
term
for
him
second
term
anyhow,
and
he
came
out
actually
opposing
the
president's
proposal
to
make
changes
to
section
230,
which
provides
immunity
to
social
media
platforms.
Anyhow
o'reilly
said
question
whether
the
fcc
had
authority
there
and
questioned
the
first
amendment
aspect
of
that.
So
anyhow,
so
the
president
went
ahead
and
withdrew
his
nomination,
as
he's
want
to
do
so.
J
Go
ahead
and
nominate
nathan
simonton
who,
from
the
commerce
department
who
had
some
role
in
the
petition,
the
commerce
department
actually
filed
a
petition
for
rulemaking
with
the
fcc,
which
is
somewhat
unusual,
and
he
had
a
role
in
that.
So
president,
when
it
president
went
ahead
and
nominated
him,
they
had
a
committee,
I
believe,
had
a
confirmation
hearing,
but
I
think
it's
quite
possible
that
the
time
may
run
out
on
mr
simonton
before
he
gets
confirmed
to
a
new
term,
so
that
may
leave
another
opening
on
the
sec
for
a
republican
fcc.
J
Commissioner,
the
issues
for
the
new
fcc.
J
President-Elect
biden
had
said
during
the
campaign
that
he
would
be
interested
in
reimposing
net
neutrality
rules,
the
the
title,
two
com
rules
that
were
imposed
in
the
prior
fcc
under
tom
wheeler.
So
it's
something
that
we
may
see,
and
it's
also
expected
that
digital
equity
will
play
a
role
and
we
may
see
a
more
expansive
view
of
that
during
the
current
fcc.
We
saw
a
big
emphasis
on
rural
broadband,
but
I
think
now,
during
you
know
during
the
pandemic,
I
think
you
know
did
I
think
through
keras
act.
J
We
did
see
a
fair
bit
of
money
and
emphasis
on
making
sure
that
you
know
urban
areas
where
affordability
was
a
big
issue
for
schooling,
cetera
et
cetera.
So
I
think,
there's
a
good
chance.
We
may
see
a
broader
emphasis
on
the
digital
equity
question.
J
Democratic
congress
members
have
called
on
the
fcc
to
pause
any
controversial
fcc
item,
which
has
been
somewhat
of
a
tradition
and
the
two
democratic
fcc
members
have
have
aired
their
support
for
that.
It's
a
long-standing
tradition,
but
that
doesn't
mean
much.
J
Cares
act.
Funding
has
been
used
by
a
number
of
states
to
close
the
broadband
gap
for
k-12
students
and
other
states
have
actually
used.
Some
cares
act
funding
to
provide
hot
spots
for
community
health
centers.
So
I
think
that's
going
to
continue
to
be
a
bit
be
an
issue
anyway.
That's
my
report.
B
Oh,
thank
you
so
much
frank
and
and
just
two
quick
items
martha
couldn't
make
it
tonight,
but
she
had
mentioned
about.
I
don't
know
I'll
forward
this
in
case
you
all
didn't
get
it's
the
digital
evidence,
management
system
policies,
engagement
for
the
police
and
they
are
going
to
have
online
public
engagement
for
that.
So
that's
something
that
we
you
know.
I
would
love
for
one
of
us
to
to
engage
and
see.
B
What's
what's
going
on
there,
I
am
going
to
be
on
the
police,
chief
recruitment
engagement,
thing
public
thing
this
saturday
at
10
a.m,
but
I'll
forward
that
to
you
all
just
in
case
you
didn't
receive
it
just
so
you
can.
You
know
I'd
love
for
one
of
us
to
engage
in
one
of
the
particularly
the
digital
evidence,
piece,
john,
depending
on
your
schedule.
B
I
know
that's
one,
an
area
that
you
you're
you're
on
so
and
then
in
the
other
thing
we'll
go
over
in
december's
budget,
we
should
have
more
information
about
budget,
and
hopefully
we
will
have
some
feedback
about
the
state,
legislative
priorities,
frank
and
I
you
know
submitted
and
thanks
for
to
all
of
you
for
for
your
help,
but
I
think
and
we'll
see
what
happens
with
the
letters
we'll
we'll
also
see
if
we
can
get
some
final,
some
final
feedback
before
we
all
we,
we
end
the
2020
year
so
good
stuff.
B
G
B
G
Question
for
you
on
the
legislative
priorities.
You
know.
One
of
the
things
I
found
in
in
my
research
was
that
it
there
were
some
potential
regulatory
issues
that
might
need
to
be
addressed.
Does
do
we
know
if
arlington
county
engages
in
regulatory
affairs
at
the
state
level
on
which
we
might
provide
guidance.
Similarly,
to
the
legislative
agenda.
B
Jack
any
any
idea,
you
probably
are,
you
might
be
better
at
answering
that
than.
D
Yeah,
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
johnny
could
give
you
any
aspect.
I
know
carly's
been
heavily
involved
with
the
the
state
broadband
commission
and
the
legislation
that's
going
on
there,
but
from
the
regulatory
perspective
you
know,
I
just
don't
know
how
do
you
have
more
insight
in
that
than
I
have.
G
G
G
You
know
I
had
identified
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
issues
that
could
be
cured:
regulatory
by
the
library
of
virginia
without
legislation,
and
so
I
was
just
curious
as
to
know
whether
whether
we
engage
on
those
types
of
priorities
as
well.
D
D
B
B
B
D
H
And
I'm
I'm
completely
open
john
to
that.
Here's
how
to
get
to
the
outcome
you're.
Looking
for
you
have
to
create
this
other
entity,
but
most
of
the
conversations-
and
perhaps
I
was
just
too
dense
to
understand
it-
weren't
saying
here's
the
one
thing
we
would
have
to
do
to
get
to.
Yes,
we
were
basically
saying
no
and
do
we
need
to
put
this
in
the
legislative
package,
and
so
I'd
just
like
to
get
a
clearer
description
of.
G
H
That's
what
an
advisory
commission
can
do.
You
know
I
mean
it's
probe
the
adequacy
of
that.
B
H
H
B
If
they
get
them
out
before
david,
obviously
we'll
we'll
share
it
work,
we
did
ask
frank,
and
I,
when
we
met
with
christian,
said
we'd
like
to
know
what
the
rhythm
is
because
david,
as
you
know,
we
really
don't
want
to
be
the
beginning
of
march,
giving
feedback
right
yep.
We
want
to
get
ahead
of
that
curve,
we're
trying
to
get
aligned
with
the
decision
making
not
running
after
it.
So
I
david
great
question:
I
don't
that
was
their
plan.
They
thought
it
was
going
to
be
around
december.
B
D
B
Yeah
that
you've
got
right-
and
I
remember
martha,
attended-
remember
the
county
managers.
Remember
frank
in
december:
they
used
to
do
that.
So
I
I
don't
know
if
they're
on
that
rhythm,
they
might
be
behind
this
year.
So
we'll
david
will
stay
tuned.
That's
our
goal.
We
hope
so
and
obviously
we'd
love
for
you
to
have
a
look
at
it
before
we.
We
meet.