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B
A
A
C
Good
evening
this
is
David
Tim
chair
unable
to
make
it
today,
but
glad
that
Chris
was
able
to
take
over
thanks.
A
Hey
there
Mr
chair
and
do
we
have
any
other
Commissioners
on
the
line.
F
A
Mr
Clark
here
I
like
Martin
here
excellent
again,
Christian
Bush
and
we
have
Quorum
in
the
room
which
is
fantastic
and
so
I
think
we
will
proceed
with
public
comment.
A
Excellent
and
again,
if
you
will
have
three
minutes
and
we're
going
to
set
up
Julio
sorry
that
Hector
will
be
setting
up
a
virtual
timer.
So
if
you
give
us
a
moment
and
then
we'll
let
you
get
started
selects,
are
you
just
on
the
phone?
Or
can
you
see
the
timer
I.
A
B
To
proceed
okay
good
evening,
and
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
talk
again
about
the
Serrano's
apartment
more
than
three
years
have
passed
and
we're
still
in
the
same
Saga.
Some
changes
were
made,
but
the
war
has
not
been
finished.
There
are
still
many
things
to
change,
to
fix
and
improve
the
building's
structure,
but
I
don't
understand
why
they
can't
change
the
treatment
of
the
office
workers
towards
the
residents.
The
intimidation
that
the
residents
feel
when
they
go
to
the
office
is
not
justified.
B
They
mention
lawyers
when
they
ask
why
things
are
like
this.
They
respond
good,
we
have
lawyers,
close
code,
residents
are
vulnerable
and
intimidated,
I
think
rocket
and
office
needs
to
have
more
ethical
and
professionalism
when
talking
to
Residents
twice
in
the
past
week,
the
office
sent
out
message
is
stating
that
they
don't
have
phone
service.
The
phones
were
down.
An
organization
like
ahc
should
have
better
equipment
not
to
disrupt
the
service
to
the
resident
events.
The
issues
of
the
elevators
have
been
another
problem
for
the
residents,
especially
those
who
live
on
the
eighth
floor.
B
Apart
from
putting
someone
to
help
carry
their
groceries,
the
people
do
not
carry
the
children
or
the
people
themselves
to
their
units.
They
have
to
walk
up.
The
stairs
I
would
like
ahc
to
explain
why
residents
experience
cloudy
and
yellowish
water.
There
are
constant
message
almost
every
week
that
indicate
either
water
cutoff
or
electrical
service
down
in
different
areas
of
the
building.
So
the
question
for
ahc
is
one
day:
are
you
going
to
be
able
to
improve
the
living
conditions
for
the
residents
of
Serranos?
They
pay
rent
and
it's
not
cheap.
B
They
pay
to
live
there.
My
the
money
is
the
same
color
as
the
money
of
everyone
else
who
lives
in
Arlington,
but
their
conditions
are
the
most
deplorable
I
want
to
ask
you
Commissioners
to
put
a
little
more
ears
to
a
little
more
eyes
on
what
ahc
is
doing
in
affordable
units,
not
only
at
Serranos.
We
are
also
talking
about
Harbor,
House
and
other
properties
in
most
of
the
affordable
units,
leave
immigrant
families
or
families
who
cannot
speak.
That's
why
these
companies
take
advantage
because
the
residents
don't
complain
they
put
up
with
it.
B
I
hope
that
you
take
into
account
what
I'm
telling
you
there
are
many
narratives.
There
are
many
stories
from
the
neighbors
bottom
line.
They
are
afraid
to
complain.
Your
Commissioners
can
create
a
structure
or
changes
or
help
to
create
changes
that
favor
families
living
in
affordable
housing.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
public
comments.
Do
you
think
I'd
like
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
any
Commissioners
who
have
follow-up
questions
or
comments
to
make
we'll
start
with
folks
virtually
if
you
are
a
commissioner,
you.
C
A
C
Good
evening
this
is
chair,
David
Tim
at
the
TLC
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
We've
we've
since
you
reached
out
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
the
beginning
of
the
new
year,
we've
been
coordinating
with
County,
with
housing
commission
and
with
ahc
as
well.
C
To
help
to
address
these
issues,
we
are
hoping
to
organize
a
meeting
potentially
joint
between
housing
and
the
tent
landlord
commission
in
March,
and
that
is
not
to
the
exclusion
of
an
additional
meeting
that
will
be
a
county
presentation
on
sort
of
the
lessons
learned
from
the
worst
parts
of
the
Serrano
issues
over
the
last
couple
years.
C
So
I
just
want
to
assure
you
that
that
lots
of
work
is
is
going
in
behind
the
scenes
to
address
these
concerns
as
best
we
can.
By
the
same
token,
I
I
do
want
to
encourage
tenants
to
the
extent
that
they're
on
the
call
or
that
Advocates
can
relay
this
message.
If
there
are
life
safety
issues
that
you're
dealing
with
the
county
is
available
and
ready
to
act
quickly
and
effectively
to
address
those
issues.
C
For
instance,
we
heard
about
keep
going
out
during
very
cold
days
and
issues
like
that
when
you're
not
receiving
a
response
from
management
from
ahc.
This
is
the
perfect
opportunity
to
reach
out
to
the
county,
I
I,
understand
and
recognize
that
tenants
have
issues
reaching
out
to
to
the
county
and
to
ahc
and
those
make
sense
to
me.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
focus
of
the
commission,
along
with
housing,
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
make
this
process
easier,
particularly
for
those
who,
for
whom
English
is
not
a
first
language.
C
I
understand
that
it's
vexing
that
these
issues
continue
for
so
long
and
I
just
want
to.
Let
you
know
that
you
know
we're
doing
everything
we
can
behind
the
scenes
and
and
with
accounting
to
to
try
and
address
these
concerns,
including
having
your
meeting
meetings
with
ahc
and
I
believe
Paul
Bernard
of
ahc
offered
to
come
to
the
TLC
meeting.
C
Today
we
decided
to
allow
him
to
come
to
the
March
meeting
and
to
give
additional
time
for
Advocates
and
tenants
to
organize
and
attend
for
a
larger
joint
discussion
on
some
of
these
issues.
So
again,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
your
testimony
and
you
know
let
the
rest
of
the
Commissioners
ask
questions
or
comments
says,
as
appropriate,
wanted
to
give
an
update
of
what
we've
been
doing.
Thank
you.
A
D
D
I
comment
is
I'm
back
in
everything
that
Janet
has
stated
and
I
appreciate
the
comments
by
chair
David,
Tim
I'm,
looking
for
change,
just
as
we
got
off
of
our
last
meeting,
we
received
more
vortex
indicating
more
issues.
D
You
know
interruptions
phone
line,
water
everything
else,
I
think
what's
most
importantly
to
point
out
here
is
the
the
way
residents
are
afraid
to
speak
out
now
you
know
Serrano
has
been
going
on
since
2019
presidents
have
spoke
now,
oh
there's,
some
residents
have
come
to
the
Chelsea,
there's
been
residents
that
have
organized
and
nothing
has
come
of
that.
You
know
nothing
really
has
come
out
of
that.
D
If
you
look
at
it
now,
if
you
look
at
the
what's
going
on
now
in
2023
and
retaliation
has
happened
to
the
residents,
there's
been
residents
that
have
been
intimidated
by
maintenance,
Staff
office
staff.
It's
just
it's
going
around
in
circles.
So
I,
don't
blame
them
for
being
here.
I'm
glad
that
there's
voices
here
to
to
give
out
those
concerns.
D
B
G
Commissioners
in
the
room
please,
so
this
is
Ryan
Whitaker,
so
I
I,
don't
I.
F
G
Be
honest
with
you,
I
I've
been
in
the
commission
for
a
year
now,
we've
heard
you
know
Serrano
reports
for
most
of
that
time,
I
followed
in
the
news
prior
to
being
appointed
to
the
commission,
so
this
does
seem
like
a
long-term,
intractable
problem
and
and
I'm
concerned
that
this
is
this
issue.
While
it's
getting
it's
gotten,
some
press
and
whatnot
he's
finding
itself
in
kind
of
a
bureaucratic
red
tape.
Kind
of
Quagmire
like
having
you
know,
deferring
having
people
come
to
the
next
meeting
a
month.
G
From
now
I
mean
this
is
that's
another
month
that
these
people
have
to
live
these
conditions.
It
chaps
me
a
little
bit
because,
when
I'm
out
trying
to
buy
apartment
buildings
for
my
own
investment
purposes,
which
is
what
I
do
for
a
living,
I
have
to
compete
against.
Ahc
ahc
can
outbid
me
for
properties
and
charge
less
for
rent
because
they're
subsidized
they
get
subsidized
Capital.
We
put
our
capital
and
our
own
private
Capital
into
our
buildings
and
therefore
we
have
to
maintain
them.
We
have
to
maintain
them.
G
It's
not
like
these
things
are
new
issues
and
it's
very
frustrating
for
me
from
just
a
competitive
standpoint
that
that
somehow,
because
they're
and
I
don't
know
where
the
governance
of
ahc
comes
in
and
what
oversight
the
county
has
over
that.
But
if
we
have
to
play
by
the
rules
they
should
have
to
play.
Votables
and
I
feel
sorry
for
these
residents.
I
would
never
treat
a
resident
of
mine
the
way
that
these
AAC
residents
are
apparently
being
treated.
G
So
that's
also
frustrating
to
see
that
if
I
have
vacancies,
I
pass
out
applications
Toronto
and
maybe
get
some
new
tenants.
But
it's
it's
frustrating
why
the
commission
can't
can't
demand
more
action
instead
of
more
consultation
and
red
tape,
especially
with
the
money
that
ahc
is
receiving
from
the
county.
So
whatever
we
can
take
action,
wise
I
would
wholeheartedly
get
behind.
A
So
I
I
I
both
appreciate
personally,
this
is
for
swimbush
I.
Both
appreciate
the
update
from
our
chair
and
I
think
we'll
have
some
other
comments.
Public
comments
on
this
topic.
A
I
mean
I
think
for
as
long
as
I've
been
on
the
commission
now
or
just
about
this
has
been
a
continued
challenge
for
residents
of
of
ahc
properties
and
I.
Think
well,
I.
Imagine
what's
frustrating
for
the
county
as
well.
A
Is
that
I
think
from
the
from
from
the
county
that
I
think
has
put
in
significant
amount
of
time
I
joined
the
Housing
Commission
has
put
in
a
significant
amount
of
time,
and
so
I
agree
with
your
frustration
that
it
it
Ryan
that
it
feels
like
we've,
we've
been
sort
of
going
around
in
circles
and
and
then
to
hear
you
know,
questions
around
intimidation
and
particularly
taking
advantage
of
folks,
perhaps
because
they're
perceived
as
having
less
power
than
our
political
and
economic
system.
You
know
moves
it
from
you
know.
A
A
I
think
the
president's
CEO
of
ahc
coming
I
think
that
was
optional
was
presented
us
to
I.
Think
today
or
yesterday
and
and
the
reason
why
we
made
the
decision
and
we
chair.
A
And
had
a
discussion
is
in
part,
because
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
adequate
time
for
for
other
stakeholders
to
participate
in
the
conversation
like
that
with
someone
who's
had
a
PhD,
so
I
think
that
is
the
reason
why
we
we
we
decided
to
hold
off
until
next
month
and
then
Housing
Commission
is
also
coming.
So
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
the
Maximum
Impact
to
forms
would
be
for
there.
So
just
wanted
to
provide
a
clarification
there
and
if.
F
Or
Chris
I
would
also
you
know
like
to
invite
anyone
from
truck
or
involved
through
the
management.
You
know,
company,
that's
overseeing
this
third
third
party
and
this
I'm,
assuming
from
HC
I'd
love
to
hear
from
someone
there
too,
if
not
just
to
respond
to
what's
going
on,
but
to
give
us
an
update
as
to
what
they're
doing
to
address
these
issues
because
they
have
been
going
on
I
joined
the
same
time.
Ryan
did
I've
heard
that
Toronto
Apartments
every
other
meeting
I've
been
involved
in
and
it's
it's
it.
F
It's
sad
that
these
residents
have
gone
here
and
plead
with
us
and
they
get
no
response.
You
know
I'm
glad
that
ahd
is
going
to
join
us
next
week.
That's
awesome!
That's
a
good
movement,
but
someone
from
Drucker
and
fall
they're
getting
paid
a
management
fee
to
manage
these
departments
I'm,
assuming
they
will
Independence
or
let
or
at
the
very
least,
respond
to
these
issues.
So
thank
you.
Yeah.
A
And
I
do
we
know
someone
for
me
if
she's
on
a
line
or
you
just
want
to
see,
if
there's
there's
someone
from
HD?
Is
there
any
already
any
representatives
from
ahc
who
would
like
to
address
our
initial
public
comment?
D
All
right,
co-chair
Chris
I
also
wanted
to
mention
that
there
was
some
comments
to
be
written
by
the
NAACP
I
think
it
was
Brian
Coleman.
Yes,.
A
A
A
No
agency
Representatives,
who
are
willing
to
speak
then
we'll
go
to
our
second
public
comment.
Okay,
great,
so
that
would
be
Brian
Coleman,
who
submitted
a
comment,
but
it's
also
I
think
on
the
line
and
would
like
to
to
to
share
as
well
do.
D
Brian
I,
don't
think
he's
online.
He
submitted
it
for
it
to
be
read:
education,
okay,.
A
A
Got
it
so
I
think
it's
not
posted
the
public
or
just
have
to
be
read
in.
K
A
Believe
it
can
be
flanned,
but
in
the
interest
of
just
making
sure
that's
on
the
record.
If
you
know
what
the
commission's
the
Commissioners
don't
have
an
issue,
then
I
will
read
it
in
full.
A
Good
evening
tenant
landlord
commission
members,
my
name
is
Brian
Coleman.
Second,
vice
president
of
the
NAACP
Arlington
Branch
I'd
like
to
speak
with
you
tonight
about
the
State
of
Affairs,
at
several
of
the
agency
properties,
ahc
Prides
itself,
on
being
a
respectable
and
receptive
provider
of
affordable
housing.
To
many
of
our
fellow
arlingtonians,
however,
ahc
has
an
unfortunate
history
of
neglect
in
this
treatment
of
its
residents
was
fostered,
distress
between
the
organization
and
the
community.
A
Having
recently
visited
a
few
properties,
including
the
Serato
and
Arbor
Heights,
and
being
given
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
several
tenants,
I
regret
to
inform
you
that
many
of
the
problems
that
plague
ahc
persistent
to
this
day
persist
to
this
day,
rodent
infestations,
frequent
elevator
shutoffs,
which
pose
a
hazard
to
the
elderly
and
the
disabled,
roving
heat
and
water
outages
and
poor
security
and
surveillance.
A
few
of
the
burdens
arrest
in
space,
a
chief
among
these
issues
of
mismanagement
for
communication,
which
lie
at
the
heart
of
the
problem,
it's
well
established.
A
It's
a
well-established
fact
that
many
of
the
AAC
properties
are
older
and
are
in
Desperate
needed
Renovations.
Therefore,
a
certain
level
of
patience
and
understanding
is
due
when
discussing
problems
at
these
properties.
However,
this
does
not
mitigate
the
fact
that
the
lives
of
residents
are
being
negatively
impacted
by
fact
factors
perfectly
within
aac's
control.
For
example,
it
took
nearly
a
month
for
staff
to
offer
help
to
hundreds
of
residents
having
to
carry
groceries
and
other
and
other
things
on
the
flights
of
stairs
the
elevators
were
out.
D
C
A
Out
outage,
rent
and
service
payments
are
not
being
properly
documented,
resulting
in
residents
receiving
multiple
payment
or
mining
letters.
An
unreliable,
an
unreliable
notice
regarding
utility,
outages
and
projected
resumption
of
services
leave
many
in
the
dark.
These
issues
can
and
should
be
promptly
addressed
by
AAC
management
and
staff,
as
our
tax
dollars
are
being
spent
to
create
some
standard
conditions
that
I'm
confident
none
of
us
would
like
to
experience.
A
Affordable
was
never
become
a
buy
word
for
inferior
when
it
comes
to
housing
and
I
believe
it
is
our
duty
to
ensure
that
these
issues
are
I
am
encouraged
by
the
attitude
of
the
new
age
management
and
the
plans
they
have
afford
to
do
conditions
at
their
properties.
Are
we
going
to
be
welcome?
It
is
my
hope
that
the
commission
will
work
with
AAC
to
guarantee
that
all
arlingtoniums,
no
matter
their
race,
ethnicity,
gender,
income,
nationality,
have
access
to
adequate
living
conditions
and
are
able
to
live
in
a
dignity.
G
Say
it
was
well
said,
but
we
need
action.
I
think
it
sounds
like
we
need
to
try
to
find
some
County
organ
that
will
enforce
some
kind
of
action:
the
building
department,
something
from
the
county
county
board.
That
says
no
more
money,
public
money
for
HD.
Unless
you
get
this
stuff,
fixed,
I,
don't
know
something
but
I
mean
we
can
talk
about
this
every
meeting
and
you
know,
but
something
should
happen.
K
Staff,
as
well
as
the
agency
staff
and
Helen
Macbeth
chair
that
meeting
it
was
productive
Imaging.
You
know
all
of
different
grievances.
If
you
will
address.
K
We
got
to
hear
both
sides,
and
so
and
again
will
it
stay
in
place?
Staff
is
doing
what
they
they.
K
Housing
staff
and
whatever
other
stuff
is
in,
is
needed
or
necessary.
So
it
would
open
inspections
and
stuff,
but
Marie
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
make
a
call
again.
J
Hello
I,
it's
Marie
Randall
with
the
housing
division.
I,
don't
have
much
more
to
add
than
roll
it
rolled
I
added,
but
we
are
working
to
you
know,
help
the
situation
and
to
try
to
figure
out.
Some
of
you
know
some
better
processes
with
our
with
our
other
divisions
and
departments.
So
we're
working
on
that
and
I
believe
the
March
Housing
Commission
meeting
The
Joint
meeting
when
ahc
is
there
we'll
have
more
information
for
you
all.
I
K
I
So
world
I
mentioned
that
you
were
able
to
talk
about
what
staff
is
able
to
do.
Can
you
expand
on
what
you
have
in
your
ability
and
what
what
you
don't?
What
you're
not
able
to
address
at
this
time.
J
So
I
think
I,
so
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
pretty
complex
answer,
so
I
mean
the
county
does
have
a
lot
of
regulatory
items
in
there.
You
know
in
their
in
their
toolbox,
so
we
do
have
legal
documents
that
allow
us
to
look.
You
know
to
do
inspections
anytime.
We
want
to
to
you
know,
look
at
Financial
records
to.
J
You
know,
look
at
their
audits
to
do
things
like
that.
So
we
can.
Those
are
things
that
we
do.
We
do
on
an
annual
basis.
We
are
doing
another
full
round
of
hqs
inspections
on
the
Serrano
I
believe
those
are
scheduled
for
right
after
APS
Spring
Break.
J
So
we
can
do
things
like
that.
We
can
also
work
with
DHS
and
any
of
their
clients
in
there.
So
and
then
DHS
has
a
whole
host
of
other
things
that
they
can
do.
If
there
are
some
issues
you
know
with
a
specific
unit
and
a
housing
Choice
voucher
tenant,
they
can
Abate
the
rent,
they
can
wait
until
things
are
fixed,
so
that
is
something
that
is
also
in
the
County's
toolbox.
J
So
there
are.
There
are
things
like
that
now,
there's
also
an
ant
I
believe
has
been
at
the
meetings
and
talking
about
our
long-term
cash
strategies
that
we're
working
on
and
what
we
can
do
with
more
coordination.
We
work.
We
are
working
closely
with
code.
J
We
are,
you
know,
working
closely
with
it's
actually
under
DHS
with
you
know
the
the
pest
team,
whatever
for
lack
of
a
better
word,
and
you
know
the
issues
around.
You
know
that
there
are,
you
know,
Serrano,
there's
issues
you
know
throughout
the
county,
it's
not
specific
to
anywhere,
but
so
we're
working
with
them,
and
so
we
are
have.
We
do
have
a
lot
more
coordination
there,
but,
as
you
know,
we're
we're
trying
to
make
sure
we
can.
J
We
can
cover
a
lot
of
different
things
and
you
know
I
believe
again
we're
we're
putting
it
all
together
for
the
presentation
when
HC
is
there
or
our
comments,
I
guess
when
ahc
is
there
next
month.
A
This
was
Chris
Winbush
I'm
curious.
Can
you
speak
a
bit
and
again
I
recognize
the
delay
but
or
not
the
delay,
but
the
March
meetings
but
I
think
particularly
concerning
and
I,
think
relatively
I
think
the
intensity
of
some
of
the
comments,
we're
starting
to
hear
about
intimidation
of
residents
and-
and
you
know,
the
the
management
sort
of
putting
forward.
You
know
talk
to
our
lawyers,
types
of
mentality.
A
And
I've
never
had
management
office
is
when
I
ask
a
question
answer
with
comma,
essentially
call
my
lawyer,
and
so
that
seems
like
a
different
like
there's
physical
aging
properties
and
then
there's
discriminating
against
residents
or
otherwise
intimidating
or
engaging
retaliation
for
exercising
their
rights
under
public
housing
laws.
So
I'm
curious.
A
Can
you
talk
a
bit
about
what
the
county
is
doing
specifically
to
investigate
those
claims,
because
those
seem
to
be
intensifying
in
ways
as
over
the
course
of
the
last
year
we've
been
hearing
I
think
the
relationship
between
residents
and
management
deteriorate.
J
So
in
in
all
honesty
that
this
is
some
of
the
first
time
I'm
hearing
about
this.
At
this
juncture
we
heard
about
it
previously,
I
know
and
again
I
I.
That
is
something
that
we
would
bring
up
with
ahc.
If
that's
you
know
how
residents
have
been.
J
You
know
that
their
experiences
with
Drucker
and
Falk
we
work
with
Drucker
and
fault
to
schedule
things
you
know
to
make
sure
certain
things
are
going
on,
but
for
for
those
I
guess
those
comments
from
residents
I
we
the
right
now
the
housing
division,
or
at
least
my
my
little
section
has
not
has
not
heard
about
that
this.
You
know
this
current
round,
so
we
would
have
to
pull
in
some
other
folks
and
and
see
what
you
know.
J
What
can
happen
with
researching
that
and
also
talking
to
Paul
and
if
they've
heard
anything.
A
Oh,
let
me
just
if
I
can
for
for
Janet
and
any
other
residents
are
on
the
line.
I
also
serve
on
the
Human
Rights
Commission
and
our
human
rights
ordinance
also
covers
discrimination
in
the
context
of
Housing
and
public
accommodations,
and
so
I
strongly
encourage
any
residents
that
are
experiencing
retaliation
for
for
exercising
their
rights
in
their
public
under
under
anti-discrimination
and
other
affordable
housing
and
housing
laws
to
to
file
a
complaint
through
the
human
rights
commission's
website
online.
As.
A
G
Right
just
to
follow
up
on
something
Marie
said
so
Marie.
This
is
Ryan
Whitaker.
What
you
mentioned,
the
things
that
you
have
in
your
toolbox.
What
tools
are
you
actually
using
I
mean
I,
know
that
I
know
there's
the
range
of
things
that
can
be
done.
What
things
are
being
done,
that
you
just
described.
J
Okay,
so
I
we
have
just
we
keep
an
internalist
and
I
can
I'm
just
going
to
go
down
the
list
of
what
we've
been
doing
since
we've.
Since
the
letter,
okay,
great.
J
J
We
again
we
have
placed
Serrano
back
on
the
inspection
schedule,
so
this
will
be
the
second
full
like
we're
going
to
do
an
all
unit,
inspection
schedule
for
April
right
after
APS,
Spring,
Break
so
and
that's
gonna
ahc-
is
actually
doing
also
their
own
Inspections.
Just
to
you
know,
make
sure
they
understand
what's
going
on,
and
so
they
are
doing
those
in
late
February
I
am
actually
going
to
go
out
to
see.
J
You
know
how
they're
doing
their
inspections
I'm
going
to
attend
a
couple
days
with
them,
and
then
ours
will
follow
up
in
April
we're
attending
there's
an
upcoming
resident
meeting
in
February
actually
next
week
and
staff
is
going
to
be
there
we're
also
working
with
HC
to
confirm
future
resident
meetings
on
the
schedule
for
that,
so
that
we
can
continue
to
go
and
hear
the
residents
concerns
directly.
J
We
have
or
I
believe
Anne
has
offered
to
meet
monthly
with
Advocates
and
ahc
and
that
those
meetings
become,
as
those
meetings
become
more
episodic.
This
may
provide
more
regular
forum
for
everyone
to
hear
the
same
information
and
issues.
J
J
So
those
issues
can
be
addressed
as
quickly
or
as
efficiently
as
possible,
we're
continuing
with
our
implementation
of
the
cash
strategies,
so
they,
as
you
know,
aim
to
improve
the
county
oversight
and
attend
supports
at
calf
properties.
So
we're
continuing
that
implementation
and
again
the
first
report
will
be
in
April
20
or
next
month
or
I'm.
Sorry
in
April
a
couple
months
away
and
then
it'll
be
shared.
You
know
a
constant
sharing
of
that
information
via
the
affordable
housing
master
plan.
J
Annual
report
after
that,
so
the
other
thing
we
are
doing
is
We,
are
continuing
to
meet
and
follow
up
with
ahc
on
the
Serrano
renovation
and
or
Redevelopment
plan.
So
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
are
cited
probably
are
going
to
be
addressed
by
a
comprehensive
renovation
or
Redevelopment
of
the
property.
J
Ahc
is
working
on
these
and
they
will
be
communicated
to
Residents.
You
know
as
well
as
the
county
and
the
community
as
soon
as
they
have
their
plan
together
and
then
we've
also,
you
know,
encouraged
the
proactive
messaging
by
HC.
We've
talked
to
them
about
making
sure
that
residents
know
about
any
preventative
maintenance
up
front,
and
you
know
what
it
may
impact
and
allow
the
residents
to
prepare
for
these
disruptions
caused
by
Future
maintenance.
So
those
are
the
things
that
we
have
been
doing.
J
A
F
Different
tonight,
that
I
heard
is
that
they
that
I
think
we
should
follow
up
on.
Is
the
assertion
of
residents
feeling
intimidated
about
coming
forward
with
their
complaints
to
Property
Management,
not
necessarily.
J
F
There
specific
specific
actions
which
we're
talking
about
here,
because
because
we.
B
F
Not
really
heard
that
before
I
mean
the
the
building
problems,
we're
aware
of
but
I'm
concerned
about
that
and
I
think
we
should
follow
up
on
that.
A
I
think
I'll
formally
speak
for
the
commission,
but
I.
Think
the
questions
of
intimidation
by
by
property
management
needs
to
be
directly
addressed
either
by
ahc
or
by
County.
Having
looked
into
the
matter
in
the
March
forms
that
we're
discussing
I'd.
J
A
Encourage
the
county
to
through
thorota,
when,
if
there
are
public
forums
at
the
Serrano
I
certainly
know
as
an
individual
commissioner,
I
would
be
interested
in
attending
them
and
other
Commissioners
might
as
well
have
some
interest
in
the
room.
So
I
I,
you
know
just
encouraged
when
those
dates
are
set
for
them
to
be
shared
with
the
DLC,
so
that
we
can
attend
as
well.
D
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
chair,
Chris,
I've,
I've,
heard
intimidation,
I've,
I've,
experienced
intimidation
and
I've
heard
the
intimidation
at
Serrano.
Since
you
know
we
started
the
meetings
in
in
2019
2020
at
2020,
and
it's
been
continuing,
but
what's
new
about
it
now
is
it's
more
blatant.
You
know
previously.
We
even
had
disabled
residents.
You
know
a
child
that
was
a
artistic,
a
family
harassed
by
what
was
former
ahc
management,
which
was
the
prophet
arm
of
ahc
Inc.
D
So
these
things
are
not
new,
but
it's
it's
more
blatant.
Now
you
just
walk
into
the
office
and
where
residents
are
reporting
is
exactly
what
Janice
stated.
You
know
basically
talked
to
my
lawyer:
it's
something
that
they're
telling
us,
they
won't
say
outside
of
a
confidential
meeting.
You
know,
residents
won't
say
it.
We
can
try
but
they're
telling
us
that
it's
consistently
and
they're
also
the
the
atmosphere
of
the
office
which
we've
had
before
when
we
had
a
previous
management.
D
So
it's
something
that's
never
been
solved,
but
it's
just
more
blatant
out
through
drug
and
fog.
So
I
agree
with
that,
and
the
statements
by
Ryan-
it's
not
fair,
that
other
other
landlords
have
to
go
strictly
by
these
standards
and
ahc
is
not
is
not
held
accountable
to
what
they
need
to
be
doing,
especially
as
partners
of
the
county.
Thank
you.
G
So
I've
said
two
more
quick
things:
real
quick
of
course
this
is
Ryan.
Oh
sorry,
is
that
all
right?
No,
no!
You
looked
at
me.
Oh
no,
two,
more
quick
things.
One
is
so
for
Marie.
I
would
assume
that
you
guys
are
prioritizing
the
things
that
are
most
impactful
on
the
residents
ability
to
occupy
their
Apartments,
so
specifically
heat
in
the
winter.
So
I
mean
it's
great.
That
you're
going
to
go,
do
an
inspection
in
April
by
then
the
cherry
blossoms
will
be
out
and
which
will
be
mostly
over.
G
So
if
the
residents
have
to
live,
you
know
for
another
60
days
without
heat
or
heat
interruptions,
the
oldest
shaken
our
head.
A
lot
of
other
things,
that's
okay,
I
mean
if
that's
I
would
just
prioritize
what
you
know.
What
are
do
you
know
more
important
things
that
that
you
know
like
heat
or
whatever.
G
The
second
thing
is,
you
know
some
of
these
other
issues
related
to
intimidation
and
things
like
that.
I
mean
there's.
Some
things
that
you
know
to
speak
to
my
lawyer.
Isn't
necessarily
intimidation.
It's
not
good
customer
service,
but
it's
not
necessarily
intimidation.
If
it's
because
they're
not
willing
to
take
a
complaint,
that's
bad
management,
and
that
means
that
you
know
that
perhaps
ahc
should
be
pressured
to
replace
their
manager
or
find
somebody
who
will
be
responsive
as
a
customer
service
issue.
G
B
F
A
A
E
H
Yes,
this
is
Jennifer
Endo
I
made
she's
vice
president
of
community
relations.
You
know
I'm
just
surprised
to
hear
all
of
this
we've
been
working
very
hard
at
Toronto.
We
continue
to
work
hard
with
Drucker
and
Falk,
and
you
know
the
majority
of
the
residents
are
happy.
We
understand
there
are
still
some
concerns
and
we're
you
know
addressing
them,
we're
you
know
preparing
to
provide
a
full,
thorough
update
at
the
March
9th
meeting.
H
We
had
been,
we
checked
at
the
county
yesterday
and
they
didn't
think
it
was
important
that
we'd
be
here
tonight,
but
I
thought
I
would
just
listen
in
so
I'm
very
surprised.
You
know
to
hear
the
extent
of
you
know
I
understand
people's
concerns,
but
you
know
we're
just
experiencing
something
different
at
the
Serrano
we
have
two
full-time
resident
services
staff
who
are
there
every
day
we
have
a
community
engagement
staff
member
who's
there
quite
often
and
we're
just
not
experiencing
the
same.
The
same
narrative.
A
Oh,
thank
you
for
your
comment.
I
will
just
speak
for
myself,
not
the
commission,
it
I,
don't
think
it's
a
you
know.
I've
there's
something
wrong:
I
I
mean
I
I.
Don't
unless
we
are
assuming
folks
are
being
disingenuous
in
their
comments
when
they
come
to
commission
meetings
or
when
the
NAACP
talks
to
tenants
or
when.
J
A
To
tenants
or
or
when
the
county
gets
complaints,
so
I
appreciate
personally
I
appreciate
what
you
might
be
experiencing
is
different,
but
I
would
very
much
suggest
in
the
course
of
the
next
month.
A
Between
now
and
the
joint
Community
committee
meetings
that
you
figure
out
what
you
you
and
your
team
figure
out
what's
going
on,
because
I
don't
think
these
people
are
lying
and
I,
don't
think
The
Advocates
are
lying
and
I,
don't
think
the
folks
we're
hearing
from
her
line,
and
so,
if
that's
the
case,
then
it's
a
problem
for
you.
A
If
you
think
the
narrative
is
different
than
reality,
but
I
don't
think
these
people
are
lying
and
we've
been
hearing
about
this
for
a
year
and
and
County
the
county
has
made
it
a
priority
and
so
I
don't
think
they
think
that
that
there
are
challenges
here
and
so
again,
I'm
just
speaking
for
myself,
not
the
commission,
there's
a
prayer
and
I
and
I
strongly
urge
you,
you
and
the
team
to
spend
the
time
and
so
I'll,
let
you
have
you
know
whatever
15
20
seconds
you'd
like
to
respond
and
then
we're
going
to
move
forward
to
any
other
commissioner
questions
and
we're
going
to
move
forward
on
our.
J
A
And
we
look
forward
to
a
more
comprehensive
update
and
response
in
March,
because
I
think,
what's
going
on
is,
is
from
what
we're
hearing
there's
something
there's
something
seriously
wrong
and
and
I
think
you
need
to
get
a
resolution
on
it
for
people
who
are
just
trying
to
live
their
lives.
H
Sure
I
understand
that
you
know
yeah
and
I'm
not
trying
to
minimize
anybody's
experience
but
I'm
just
trying
to
let
you
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
residents
at
the
Serrano
who
are
happy,
and
you
know
we.
We
do
value
the
advocate's
input
and
we
try
to
keep
those
lines
of
communication
open
and
we
would
try
to
respond
and
we're.
You
know
just
working
hard
with
Rucker
and
Falk
to
address
all
of
the
issues
you
know.
H
If
there
are
residents
who
are
unhappy,
we
we
would
love
to
hear
from
them
and
we,
you
know,
do
our
own
Outreach,
but
we're
always
happy
to
to
work
with
The
Advocates
to
make
it
a
better
living
experience.
H
Yeah
we
had
a
good
meeting
with
Kellen
and
County
staff,
including
anthonycia
on
Monday
morning
and,
like
I
said
we
were
preparing
for
the
March
9th
to
give
a
thorough
report,
and
just
you
know
we're
surprised.
We
didn't
know
that
this
was
going
to
be
discussed
tonight
until
late
today,
so
I'm,
sorry
that
we're
not
more
prepared
but
yeah
we've
been
having
lots
of
discussion.
We
met
with
NAACP.
There
was
a
an
advocate
from
voice
was
also
there,
like
I,
said
the
county
staff
and
with
Kell
and
Macbeth.
H
So
we've
really
been
trying
to
keep
the
communication
open
and
are
always
happy
to
do
that.
We
know
that
you
know
perfect,
but
we're
we're.
Definitely
things
are
not
what
they
were
a
couple
of
years
ago,
there's
been
a
lot
of
improvement
and
a
lot
of
changes
at
ahc.
A
I
appreciate
that
yeah
and
that
if
they're
on
the
public
comments,
we
will
move
forward
I
believe
we
have
David.
Do
you
have
any
additional
I
know?
The
next
item
in
the
agenda
was
an
update
on
the
Serrano
I
think
we
may
have
covered
that.
Is
there
anything
else
you'd
like
to
add,
if
not
we'll
I
think
move
on
to
subcommittee
I,
don't
have
it
but
David
anything
else
on
the
Serrano
before
you
move
forward.
C
Nope
honestly
I
didn't
expect
to
have
this
in
depth
of
a
conversation
at
this
meeting.
I
also
thought
we
would
be
preparing
for
the
March
meeting,
so
I
think
that's.
We
can
move
on
now.
A
Conversation
on
it
because
Jan
has
had
a
public
comment
and
then
we
had
a
second
public
comment,
cut
summarizing
a
variety
of
issues,
and
so
yes,
we're
going
to
wait
till
March,
but
we're
also
going
to
talk
about
these
issues
might
come
up
because
that's
our
job
not
to
you
David.
That
was
for
anyone
else.
Listening.
A
G
Do
here,
in
addition
to
the
comments
on
the
same
subject,.
A
We've
received
for
many
months.
Yes,
so
you
know
it's
probably
just
a
standing
item
until
it's
resolved
Julio.
Is
that
a
new
hand.
D
I
guess
just
went
to
first
of
all,
I
appreciate
the
time
on
this.
Thank
you
guys
for
your
patience
with
this
and
for
your
work.
I
wanted
to
mention
that.
Last
time
we
had
a
resident
named
Anna
reporting
from
the
comment,
and
she
mentioned
the
security
issues.
At
the
very
end,
somebody
in
the
parking
lot
I
think
with
a
hammer
which
is
which
is
overall
security
issues
at
Serrano
and
that
Resident
ended
up
having
arson
in
the
building.
I
think
he
lit.
D
If
I
remember
correctly,
what
I
read
in
the
article
hey,
he
lit
the
balcony
on
fire.
So
there's
still
these
security
issues
also,
to
then
add
on
to
the
Serrano
and
also
I,
wanted
to
clarify
intimidation
and
retaliation
on
what's
going
on
at
Serrano.
You
know
if
they
ever
talk
to
an
advocate
and
we
go
over
there
and
help
them
out
take
photos
of
what's
going
on
that's
when
they
get
ostracized
or
they
get
intimidated
by
maintenance
staff
and
office
staff.
A
Our
January
meeting
unless
they're
thank
you
any
discussion
edits
for
the
January
meds.
A
L
K
A
Yeah
but
I
and
I
I've
got
the
charter
here,
a
member,
a
member
of
the
commission
who
fails
to
attend
three
tenant
landlord
commission
meetings
in
a
single
year
without
providing
advance
notice
to
the
chair
or
staff,
may
be
asked
to
resign.
His
or
her
remaining
term
in
the
commission.
The
Advisory,
Group,
chair
after
consultation
with
the
County
Board
liaison,
shall
notify
the
member.
If
such
an
action
is
warranted,
so
I'm
sure
I'm
sure.
A
Well,
then,
David
are
working
through
that
I
always
love
to
have
the
charter,
because
it's
quite
useful
and
that's
the
lawyer
in
me.
Yes,
so
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes,
all
in
favor
aye
all
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
excellent
and
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
item
of
business,
which
is
subcommittee
of
things,
and
so,
if
I
may
I
think
we'll
go
to
some
alternative
dispute.
I
But
yes,
okay,
so
we
had
our
first
subcommittee
meeting
at
this
point.
Oh
so
we
meet
typically
every
by
the
end
last
for
the
fourth
Monday
of
every
month.
I
So
I
think
there's
some
collaboration
to
some
companies
on
that.
But
going
forward
this
this
month,
we're
focusing
on
the
types
of
complaints
or
issues
that
are
reported
both
to
the
county
and
the
housing
center,
as
well
as
bugatta,
and
how
they've
been
collecting
that
to
identify
what
makes
sense
going
forward
for
an
altered
quality
for
an
alternate
to
speed
resolution
to
be
able
to
solve,
and
then
our
we
are
also
going
forward
with
commission
research
in
three
areas
which
are
learning
about
what
other
jurisdictions
do
in
the
region.
I
For
this
kind
of
service
going
into
the
legality,
what
would
you
say
your
topic
is.
A
Whether
you
can
make
ADR
or
alternative
dispute
resolution
mandatory
as
it's
been
Bond
at
past
efforts
on
mediators,
Ontarian
nature,
and
so
there's
been
not
not
a
lot
of
participation
in
Pre
schemes
and
so
whether
or
not
it's
even
possible
under
state
law.
As.
I
An
option
yeah
so
for
context
too.
This
was
a
the
county
had
Aid
mediator
at
one
point
in
its
history
and
when
that
person
resigned,
they
decided
that
not
to
replace
that
individual,
but
they
did
not
see
that
person
having
a
lot
of
action
or
like
not
not
used
to
its
full
capability.
So
that's
something
I
would
considering
and
then
the
last
thing
we're
researching
is
more
in
depth
on
the
vrlta.
I
A
F
A
They're
often
the
front
lines
of
getting
the
call
about
something
happening.
You
know
across
the
county
and
on
across
the
topic,
areas,
housing
in
particular
and
so
I
think
it's
really
I
think
there
will
definitely
be
some
paramilities
points,
some
collaboration
around
understanding.
How
folks
can
leverage
and
make
sure
those
types
of
issues
get
to
the
right
place.
Like
coding,
people
spend
things
like
that,
so
it
was.
It
was
interesting
to
hear
from
from.
L
It
was
also
interesting
that
this
this
gentleman
I
can't
remember
what
his
official
title
was,
but
the
the
accounting
representative
who
sort
of
the
the
only
Ombudsman
at
the
moment,
sort
of
dig
both
the
the
business
side
and
the
residence
side
sent
it
downstairs
when
they
reopened
the
lobby,
that
they
are
going
to
have
two
people
sitting
at
that
front
semi-circle
space
and
that
the
idea
is
to
take
walk-in
questions
and
to
sort
of
be
that
easy
place
for
people
to
go
to,
because
everybody
sort
of
realizes
how
hard
it
is
sometimes
to
navigate
the
website
navigate
who
to
talk
to.
L
A
Itself,
another
thing
that
we
recognized
one
thing
to
recognize
is
that
I
was
sort
of
under
the
impression
that
the
county
had
a
3-1-1
line.
You
know
a
lot
of
cities
and
localities
do
these
days.
You
know
simple
non-emergency
number,
where
you
could
get
routed
the
right
place
and
so
I
think
as
they're
sort
of
adding
the
capacity
downstairs
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
if
the
county
ever
sort
of
goes
that
route,
where
you
can
easily
say
it.
A
You
know
from
a
housing
perspective
if
your
water
is
out
or
your
heat
is
out
in
the
middle
of
winter,
and
your
management
isn't
answering
the
the
ease
of
being
call
3-1-1
and
get
routed
to
you
know:
code
inspection
or
the
housing
division.
You
know,
or
probably
years
and
years,
if
they're
ever
considered
at
all.
But
it's
a
reminder
of
how
I'm
trying
to
make
to
the
county
when
it
comes
to
emergency
housing,
housing
in
particular.
A
As
we
talked
about
tonight
important-
and
you
know
those
three
digit
numbers-
you
know
whether
it's
for
9-1-1
or
now,
the
suicide
prevention
number
you
know
311-
has
become
a
powerful
tool
for
a
lot
of
places.
So
it
was
interesting
that
we
don't
have
it
any
questions
for
the
subcommittee.
A
If
not,
it
was
Outreach
go
forth.
G
So
the
Outreach
subcommittee
met
two
weeks
ago
as
well
I'm
interested
to
hear
about
a
lot
of
the
things
you
guys
are
working
on,
because
there's
does
a
lot
of
overlap,
so
we
talked
about
so
it
was
Kiera
and
Matt,
and
myself
and
Hector
attended
as
well
to
help
us
out
and
I,
hear
a
role
that
you've
dropped
on
us.
G
After
the
fact,
that's
good,
so
we
identified
a
few
goals
just
and
put
some
ideas
out
there
and
also
thought
of
what
Kieran
had
told
us
that
it
worked
on
previously
by
the
subcommittee.
G
So
one
of
the
questions
that
I
had
asked
you
earlier
in
the
week
was
what
Authority-
and
this
is
an
idea
that
I
had
and
we
kind
of
explored
a
little
bit
on
our
subcommittee.
What
is
what
Authority
does
the
County
Board
have
to
require
or
strongly
suggest
that
materials
be
included
with
by
landlords
either
with
leases,
or
you
know
periodically
to
their
residents
either
electronically
or
physical
copies?
G
You
know
what
Authority
does
the
board
have
to
to
acquire
that
or,
like
I
said
strongly
suggest
whatever
that
means
and
And
to
clarify
a
little
bit,
because
this
is
an
exchange
you
and
I
had
on
on
email?
It's
not
that
we
want
to
print
out
10,
000
flyers
and
set
them
out
which
Hector
provided
something
like
this,
which
is
kind
of
information
about
what
the
tenant
ladder
commission
is
I,
I,
think,
maybe
we
were
you
know,
thinking
of,
or
at
least
I
was.
G
You
know,
kind
of
something,
the
notes
from
the
meeting
of
like
a
one-page
thing
that
says,
if
I
have
a
problem
with
this,
here's
where
I
can
go
if
I'm
in
if
I'm,
in
need
of
rental
assistance.
You
know
here
are
the
county
resources
that
I
have
you
know
if
I
you
know,
certainly
there
could
be
something
in
there
about
tenant,
landlord
commission
existence
and
meetings.
G
You
know
and
then
frankly,
some
just
helpful
FAQ
type
tips
like
your
lease
governs
your
relationship
with
your
landlord.
Your
lease
is
governed
by
the
vrlta.
You
know
it
provides
some
resources,
potentially,
if
there's
a
an
ombudsman
or
whoever
it
is
that's
going
to
be
sitting
down
here.
That's
a
resource
that
you
know
the
county
has
information
officers
or
whatever
they're,
going
to
call
them
available
from
nine
to
five
Monday
through
Friday.
You
know
at
so
just
basically
a
sheet
that
has
everything
all
in
one
place.
G
That's
passed
out
with
your
lease
and
potentially
annually
they
already
require.
The
county
already
requires
that
kind
of
thing
for
recycling.
So
if
recycling
is
enough
of
a
priority
that
I
have
to
provide
a
recycling
flyer
with
my
lease
and
annually
thereafter,
and
not
only
that
but
I've
got
to
answer
surveys
and
questions
and
be
inspected
and
everything
else,
then
I
would
think
that
some
basic
housing
questions
and
resources
could
be
answered
by
a
flyer
that
the
TLC
puts
out
as
part
of
our
job.
G
So
that
was
that
was
that
particular
topic
and
a
potential
goal
that
we
that
we
talked
about
two
other
things
we
talked
about
was
you
know?
How
are
we
represented
on
County
websites
and
resources
we
needed
to?
We
agree.
We
would
look
into
that
further.
Clearly,
the
TLC
is
described
in
terms
of
its
existence,
but
you
know
sort
of
how
is
it
advertised
or
represented
as
a
resource
for
for
residents?
I
think
that's
probably
not
so
much
on
County
websites,
but
we
need
to
look
into
that
further.
G
We
talked
about
and
then
lastly,
Kira
suggested
TLC
Outreach
in-person
events
might
be
helpful,
whether
it's
the
I
can't
remember
what
that's
called
I've
been
to
it
before
the
housing,
fair
or
whatever
Civic.
F
Federation
at
the
county,
fair
things
like
that,
it's
an
in-person
event,
groups,
yeah
related
voice
groups
that
are
really
have
some
similarity
to
our
mission.
I
would
say
not
every
group
in
Arlington.
No
we're
not
gonna,
no.
F
Not
going
to
network
at
you
know
a
lot
of
car
club.
G
G
Basically,
Outreach
is
his
suggestion
and
something
that
had
been
done
in
the
past.
I
think
you'd
even
attended
an
event
was
at
a
you
know,
at
in-person
events,
whether
it's
commission
meetings
or
something
like
that
or
you
know
County
Fair
or
the
I've
been
to
this
before
and
I
can't
remember
the
name
of
it,
but
it
was
like
it's
a
it's.
A
county
run
thing.
It
was
at
the
Jefferson
Center
yeah.
K
G
G
And
then
we
just
touched
on
previous
efforts,
including
you
know,
making
sure
that
we're
a
standard
agenda
item
for
on
on
TLC
meetings
so
that
we
can
talk
about
Outreach
efforts.
And
then
you
know
whether
or
not
we
wanted
to
reach
out
to
or
had
previously
reached
out
to.
You
know.
Other
groups
like
Garrett,
mentioned
the
Civic
Federation
things
like
that
to
let
them
know
their
existence
and
that
we're
available
as
a
resource.
L
Well
so
I
mean
it
wasn't
too
long
ago
that
we
had
to
add
the
residence
rights
and
responsibilities
yeah
the
emails
today,
but
now
Arlington
County
fired,
has
changed
some
new
codes
that
affect
the
multi-family
housing
with
regard
to
scooters,
Mobility,
non-personal,
Mobility
devices
being
stored
and
charged
in
multi-family
housing,
and
so
today
right
yeah
so
like.
If
you
have
a
lime
scooter,
you
can't
take
it
up
to
your
apartment
and
just
charge
it
because
it's
not
yours,
it
belongs
to
Lime
Oh.
F
L
G
H
L
That
that
that
just
came
out,
Arlington
County
Fire
Department
Arlington
County
fire
department
is
hosting
a
meeting
on
September
24th,
a
virtual
one,
but
they
sent
out
flyers,
that's
telling
and
they
have
the
the
new
law,
the
new
code
that
we
have
to
give
to
all
of
our
residents,
at
least
at
renewal,
and
at
least
once
a
year
just
like
recycling.
So
I.
A
Mean
I
think
the
mechanisms
are
no
and
I
think
the
mechanism
is,
you
know
if
I
think
about,
like
the
pathway
to
do
it.
I
think
I've
been
asking
for.
You
know,
changes
to
the
ordinance
and
code
that
would
make
something
like
this
requirement
like
affirmative.
You
know
materials
regarding
you
know
housing.
You
know
housing,
yeah,
resources.
A
And
things
like
that,
you
know
if
that
is
not
Authority,
that
the
county
already
has
that
I
think
that's
something
we
can
advocate
for.
F
It's
a
problem
with
our
priorities,
because
some
of
the
things
we're
talking
about
are
just
as
important
but
the
recycling,
the
State
Department
of
Environmental.
The
state
requires
that
the
state
of
Virginia,
the
Department
of
Environmental
Quality
yeah,
requires
that
the
fire
that's
a
safety
issue.
F
C
I
I
G
Stands
out,
I
mean
it
can
have
a
lot
of
information
on
it,
but
my
thought
is:
if
Uber,
if
we
were
to
spend
some
time,
yeah
collecting
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
want
to
see
on
there.
Have
the
commission
take
a
look
at
it?
Make
suggestions,
comments,
change
it
get
it
designed.
So
it
looks
pretty
and
I
didn't
mean
to
I
didn't
mean
I
felt
bad,
because
Hector
showed
us
this
and
he's
like
I.
Did
this
and
I'm
like?
G
Oh
it's
nice,
but
it
really
just
talks
about
like
our
Charter
and
stuff,
like
this
isn't
going
to
be
useful
to
it
a
tenant
right.
It's
it's
I
mean
it
lets
us
know
that
people
know
that
we
exist,
but
it
doesn't
really
that's
not
a
resource.
So
anyway,
my
point
was,
if
you
can
put
all
that
stuff
in
one
place,
show
it
to
a
County,
Board
member
and
get
their
buy-in
to
make
this
something
that
that
should
be
a
relatively
easy
lift.
I
would
think.
E
Well,
the
issue
that
I
brought
up
in
that
was
that
it
might,
it
might
be,
if
we're
trying
to
maybe
not
mandate
it
but
try
to
make
it
so
that
it's
I
guess
it
wouldn't
be
sort
of
a
mandate.
But
that
turns
into
more
of
a
general
assembly
issue
where
you're
having
to
talk
to
the
changing
the
law.
C
E
Right
and
it's
it's
good
I
think
it's
good
to
have
as
a
suggestion
for
sure
and.
A
I
think
if,
if
the
subcommittee
makes
it
puts,
puts
together
the
the
if
we
either
if
housing
staff
has
one
or
we
put
one
together,
but
more
importantly,
that
we
make
it
the
you
know
for,
for
advocacy
groups
that
are
interacting
with
tenants.
Even
if
we
can't
I
mean
we
should
try
I'm,
always
we
should
try
to
get
it
mandated
possible.
E
K
A
Resource
or
identifying
the
resource
that
might
already
exist
that
is
serve
this
purpose
and
modifying
it
and
then
really
pushing
you
know
through
advocacy
groups
and
even
landlords
that
are
just
willing
to
voluntarily
include
it
in
their
welcome
pack.
There
are
a
lot
of
I
mean
we
I
know
today.
In
particular,
we've
talked
about
some
challenges,
but
there
are
incredible.
A
We
have
Arlington,
including
around
this
table,
incredible
landlords
who
you
know
I
think
to
our
work
around
alternative
speed
resolution
we
want
to
to
to
to
sort
of
create
those
Pathways
for
productive,
Outreach,
and
things
like
that.
So.
A
We
cannot
mandate
it,
although
we
should.
We
should
try
but
I
think
the
first
step
I
think
to
Emily's
point
is:
let's
put.
G
E
C
A
C
Yeah,
no,
so
I
I
am
really
grateful
for
the
work
you
guys
the
thinking
you're
doing
about
this
I
think
it's
awesome.
The
one-pager
idea
I
think,
along
with
the
one
pager
considering
what
are
the
options
and
we've
been
sort
of
discussing
it
here
in
this
in
the
Forum
today
about
what
what
are
the
targets
that
we
can
aim
at?
You
know
what's
achievable
and
even
if
we
don't
get,
let's
say
the
Mandate,
which
is
the
top
Target.
C
Maybe
we
can
mandate
through
Arlington
County,
rather
than
the
state
legislature
at
Virginia,
to
have
all
affordable
housing
included
and
a
program
where
we
encourage
private
landlords
as
well.
Even
if
we
can't
mandate
it
so
I
think
I
I
would
ask
the
subcommittee
to
be
looking
into
like
sort
of
a
tiered
Target
system.
So
even
if
you
we
don't
get
the
best
thing,
we
don't
give
up
on
the
project
because
it
has
so
much
value.
A
J
I
Thank
you
and
I'll.
Just
do
one
more
thing
from
the
constituent
Services
that
we
met
with.
They
have
been
developing
a
knowledge
base
so
like.
If
someone
calls
about
this,
then
direct
them
this
and
they
said
they're
gonna
see
how
we
they
can
share
that
information,
which
I
think
would
be
right
into
what
you
need
for
your
point.
How.
A
So,
in
a
lot
of
ways,
I
think
we
we
bled
into
our
work
plan
discussion.
That's
part
of
our
subcommittee
reports,
which
is
great.
A
Out
as
a
discussion
to
the
commission
and
I'm,
also
mindful
of
time
as
we
potentially
will
lose
Quorum
soon
in
the
room,
are
there
any
ideas
that
have
not
been
discussed
by
either
the
two
subcommittees
in
the
reports
tonight
of
potential
projects
or
other
types
of
work
that
the
commission
as
a
whole
should
be
focused
on
for
2023.
L
Yeah
so
I
guess
I'm
just
going
to
be
the
Debbie
Downer
I'm,
not
sure
we
should
take
on
anything
else.
When
I
saw
that
that
came
on
the
agenda,
I
was
like.
Oh
really,
I
want
to
succeed
at
something.
I
want
to
start
something
finish.
It
then
start
something
new
and
we
had
two
subcommittees
that
seem
enthusiastic,
have
tangible,
tangible
goals,
but
if
each
of
us
could
finish
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
right,
you
sort
of
have
three
we
sort
of
have
three.
G
G
It's
part
of
you
know
finish
in
September,
not
August.
Okay,.
K
All
right,
so
if
I
mean
when
we
talk
about,
it,
was
not
really
talking
about
scheduled
activities
in
the
next
nine
months,
so
it
is
not
necessary
things
you
have
to
do.
The
second
meetings
are
often
when
they
were
I.
I
certainly
need
a
bit
more
directional
guidance
in
terms
of
what,
on
a
monthly
basis.
What
are
we
doing?
You
know
what
information
would
you
like?
What
presentations,
perhaps
that
you
might,
that
completed
communities.
K
So
you're
really
talking
in
terms
of
topics,
and
so
yes,
some
companies
have
their
work,
but
on
a
Monday
basis,
are
we
coming
into
just
have
updates
from
some
communities?
I
mean
what
is
what
it
is
well,
if.
A
Having
we've
talked
about
this
I
do
think
having
more
I
would
call
them
work
sessions
where
we
might
mark
up
the
new
like
we
can't
do
a
lot
of
work
asynchronously
because
of
public
records
loss,
so
I
I
do
think
there
is
value
in
that
not
updates,
because
I
agree
just
like
getting
pure
updates,
but
having
I
think
we've
had
a
really
rich
set
of
discussions
this
evening,
including
on
what
subcommittee
activities
are
working
on,
and
so
I
would
suggest
that,
like
it
is
important
to
have
I,
think
getting
regular
briefings,
information
and
topics,
but
I
do
think
it's
actually.
A
And
collaborations
as
well
between
the
Committees,
so
I
will
say
that,
like
certainly,
we
should
structure
some
events
but
but
yeah
I.
G
G
You
know
whether
it's
Serrano
issues
or
or
other
other
type
of
things,
but
it
seems
to
me
like
if
we,
if
we,
if
we
have
90
minutes
plus
or
minus
for
these
commission
meetings,
that's
our
goal
monthly
and
we
and
you
know
then-
and
we
get
it-
get
through
the
procedures
of
listening
to
public
comment
and
that
kind
of
thing
and
then
frankly,
I
mean
the
next
time
we
meet
a
subcommittee
I
expect
we're
going
to
go
through
and
try
to
come
up
with
an
outline
we'll
spend
an
hour
hour
and
a
half
of
an
outline
of
what
maybe
should
be
on
a
you
know
on
our
particular
flyer,
for
example:
that's
our
goal
and
present
that
to
the
commission,
give
it
to
everybody
and
then
let
them
look
at
it
and
come
back
to
us
the
following
commission
meeting,
and
this
is
going
to
take
time,
yeah
right
and
then
we
can
design
something
and
we
can
design
something
give
it
to
you
guys.
G
A
A
L
L
And
then
the
other
thing,
Saul
you've
been
very
quiet
for
the
past
few
months
and
I
always
enjoy
when
he
took
10
or
15
minutes.
To
tell
us
what's
going
on
from
his
perspective,
because
he
is
out
in
the
trenches
with
the
the
residents
who
have
often
less
of
a
voice
and
how
a
young
lady
who
worked
beside
him,
who
had
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
data
and
I
I,
thought
that
some
of
the
information
he
provided
to
us
was
very
beneficial.
B
A
One
which
I
think
is
already
cooking,
we're
gonna,
I,
think
hear
about
the
budget
next
meeting
I
believe
so
meaty
I
think
it
would
be
lovely
I.
Think
one
role
that
the
commission
had
is
could
be
as
a
convener
of
other
groups
and
other
so
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
plan
at
some
point
this
year,
a
round
table
of
lamp
reports
of
different
sizes.
Perhaps
you
know
sourced
by
our
landlords
on
the
commission
to.
G
A
About
the
challenges
and
opportunities
in
terms
of
our
rental
market,
from
landlords
and
I,
think
it
would.
The
flips
I
think
would
be
interesting
to
have
a
panel
of
advocacy
groups
that
are
talk
come
by
including
bugatta
to
come
and
talk
to
us
about
what
they're,
seeing
as
sort
of
the
bigger
challenges
and
opportunities
market
in
Arlington
and.
A
But
I
think
it
would
be
a
night
like
I
think
that
almost
could
be
a
tradition
if
we
could
build
it,
and
maybe
it's
already
been
happening,
but
I
think
hearing
hearing
from
folks
just
giving
them
giving
a
forum
could
be
really
interesting
and
maybe
less
presentations,
but
more
really
trying
to
emphasize
the
conversations.
So
what.
G
A
Commission
so
I
think
one.
So
no,
no,
it's
super
fair,
so
I
think
if
I
think
about
it
from
what
we
could
learn
from
landlords
is
I
actually
and
and
I
think
we
have
some.
We
still
have
some
file
work
to
do
on
the
housing
Choice
voucher
program,
but
I
think
we
learned
in
the
previously
formed
housing
discrimination
committee.
We
learned
that
there
were
a
lot
of
well,
not
I,
shouldn't,
say
there.
B
A
So
I
think
the
idea
would
be
the
best
ideas
that
we
are
in
our
Charter
supposed
to
provide
to
the
County
Board
sort
of
an
annual
report,
and
we
have
not
done
that
since
I
have
been
on
the
commission,
but
I
think
what
would
be
great
is
if
that,
if
we
could
do
an
annual
report
this
year,
the
course
summarizes
the
amazing
work
we've
already
done,
but
we.
A
A
report
to
highlight
again
sort
of
making
recommendations
to
the
board
of
how
we
can
ensure
that
our
rental
market
is
robust
and
is
working
for
both
landlords,
as
well
as
tenants,
so
I
think
it
would
be
advisory
which
that
is
in
our
Charter
that
we
provided.
You
know
we
provide
advice
to
the
County
Board,
so
I
think
it
would
be
collecting.
F
There's
a
there's
a
blueprint,
I.
F
H
F
With
Fields
participated,
you
know
for
Lieutenant
rights
and
legal
services.
K
K
So
I
mean
those
are
things
that
we
have
done
over
the
years.
Definitely
actually,
next
months,
we're
having
a
warehouse
in
I
want
to
call
it
a
public
meeting
and
it's
actually
hosted
by
the
time
of
my
whole
commission.
So
that
is.
That
is
one
of
the
importance
for
you
to
get.
I
To
that,
and
are
those
sessions
like
County
sharing
information
or
is
it
County
listening
to.
K
But
in
the
ones
that
we
have
had,
it
is
a
form,
an
opportunity
for
the
county
to
provide
information
and
more
residents
tenants
to
yeah
the
participate
in
whatever
way.
So
it's
been
done
in
different
formats
Sequoia.
It's
also
been
in
Arlington
Mill,
we've
gone,
you
know
two
different
parts
of
the
community
applications.
A
A
A
set
of
questions
and
that
we
can
facilitate
a
conversation
but
I
would
really
be
interested
in
I
mean
I,
am
a
public
interest
and
I
care
deeply.
The
member
but
I
care
deeply
that
like
I,
I,
rent
and
I
like
renting
and
I
want
the
rental
markets.
You
know
60
I,
think
now
to
70
of
folks,
rent
in
the
county
and
so
having
a
really
robust.
A
Well-Functioning
rental
market
is
important
and
I,
and
you
know
to
the
extent
that
there
are
challenges
that
tenants
are
sorry
the
landlord's
experiencing
and
certainly
we're
getting
a
sense
of
what
tenants
are
experiencing
in
some
context.
A
My
that's
my
pitch
for
work
plan
items
but
I'm
mindful
of
time
and
and
needs
I'm.
I
A
I
Them
via
email,
I'll,
just
add
to
the
ubata
stuff
we
with
our
subcommittee.
What
we
discussed
is
the
complaints
that
are
coming
in
around
housing.
So
if
there's
like
regular
updates,
I
think
you
said,
Hector
keeps
track
of
those
more.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
every
meeting,
but
like
more
regular
of
what
kind
of
complaints
or
questions
or
or.
K
They
also
prepared
to
bring
some
of
that
information
that
it's
primarily
relations.
It
is
yes,
so
I
just
want
to
make
something
like
I
was
just
waiting
goodbye.
K
So
there
was
one
final
little
announcement
that
I
need
a
meeting
or
in
preparation
for
next
month's
meeting
I
sent
out
the
report,
which
is
the
regional,
a
regional,
fair
housing
plan.
It's
been
bought
the
Philippines,
but
anyhow,
so
that
was
a
process
that
several.
K
Within
it,
it's
a
very
long
document,
but
within
it
there
is
the
Arlington's
space
specific
Arlington
plan,
so
we'd
like
you
to
look
at
that,
I
would
be
stepping
out
Google
information
on
that
in
the
next
couple
of
days
and
at
the
next
march
APK
we
are
hosting
a
public
information
or
public
event
for
that
plan.
To
be
this
personally,
the
call
Consulting
that
should
be
making
a
presentation
we
get
the
word
out
and
so
that
we
can
have
a
robust
meetings,
and
that
is
all
agendas.
K
A
Okay,
so
so
I
would
I
I
think
building
on
brought
us
comments.
We
all
have
Networks,
and
so
when
we
get
that
information
about
the
plan,
I
encourage
all
Commissioners
on
to
to
share
in
their
networks
and
then
I
ask
we
lost.
A
To
share
out
to
our
networks,
thumb
the
plan
and
the
fact
that
meeting's
happening
and
so
that
we
get
great
attendance
and
engagement,
and
so
with
that
I
believe
we
have
reached
the
end
of
our
agenda
and
there's
fans
of
attention
in
21st
century.
A
So
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
all
opposed.
You
guys
have
it,
and
thus
we
conclude
the
February
8th
meeting.
Probably
if
David
has
displayed
my
last
as
a
chair
for
acting
chair.
So,
oh
sorry,
David
do
you
have
something?
Oh
no.