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A
A
Excellent
good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
March
8th,
2023
landlord
tenant
for
commission
virtual
meeting,
my
name
is
Crystal
Bush
I'm,
the
vice
chair
of
the
TLC
and
I'll,
be
chairing
this
meeting
this
evening
before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
cover
a
few
specifics
to
worry
and
everyone
to
our
virtual
environment.
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meeting,
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or
written,
is
subject
to
the
Freedom
of
Information
acts.
Requirements
on
the
agenda
today
is
public
comment
which
no
one
has
signed
up,
but
I'll.
Ask
if
there's
any
public
comment
before
we
get
started
a
presentation
of
the
regional,
fair
housing
plan
by
our
County
Housing
staff.
A
A
B
Excuse
me
I'm,
sorry,
can
we
hold
a
minute
please,
let's
just
double
check
about
the
Quorum.
Please
I'm
being
told
that
you
know
because
we
do
not
have
a
quorum.
We
may
have
to
hold
up.
C
C
A
That
remind
me
Quorum,
for
if
we're
eight
I
think
we're
eight
members
with
two
vacancies.
A
You
get
forward
with
are
there
is
anyone
who
would
like
to
provide
public
comment
who
have
not
signed
up
already
or
have
not
signed
up
through
our
online
form?.
A
Hearing,
none
and
I
will
just
note
for
the
record
the
attendance
of
commission,
the
following
Commissioners
Julio,
Emily,
Matt,
Chris,
wimbush
and
Ryan,
so
that
we
have
a
note
of
that
at
the
start
of
the
meeting
and
I
will
turn
things
over
now
for
the
presentation
of
the
regional
care
housing
plan.
D
Yes,
good
evening,
I'm
Joel
Franklin
housing,
planner
working
in
conjunction
with
the
Council
of
governments
and
our
consultant
Team,
who
is
represented
by
the
lawyers
committee,
Diane
Glover,
and
the
Council
of
governments
representative.
Who
will
kick
off
the
presentation
is
Hillary
Chapman.
E
E
Okay,
great
well
again,
thank
you
so
much
everyone
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
with
you
this
evening.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
want
to
give
a
special
thanks
to
to
the
Arlington
County
local
government
team,
for
their
work
and
being
a
key
part
of
this
process
and
keeping
us
moving
moving
forward
through
a
multi-year
planning
process.
So
I
want
to
just
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
the.
E
What
the
plan
is,
what
it's
hoping
to
accomplish
and
the
provide
a
regional
perspective.
As
I
said,
I
am
joined
here
by
Diane
gallber.
Who
is
the
person
who
took
this
enormous
amount
of
information
that
we
have
gathered
and
put
it
into
a
draft
plan
that
we're
we
are
hoping
to
share
and
get
input
from
you
today
and
I'm
going
to
cover
just
a
little
bit
about
the
regional
plan
itself
before
handing
it
back
over
to
Joel,
to
tell
you
about
the
proposed
goal,
strategies
and
actions.
E
So
just
a
really
quick
reminder,
so
this
this
for
those
of
you
who
may
not
already
be
familiar.
A
fair
housing
plan
is
typically
A,
Five-Year
Plan,
designed
to
promote
meaningful
actions
to
overcome
historic
patterns
of
segregation
and
promote
fair
housing.
Choice.
E
The
key
components
of
the
plan
are
listed
here
below,
and
the
thing
that's
most
important
to
know
is
that
there
is
a
there's,
a
been
a
robust
Community
participation
process,
an
opportunity
for
dialogue
with
stakeholders
of
all
kinds
and
Gathering
of
qualitative,
as
well
as
quantitative
information
and
then
tying
those,
most
importantly,
into
actions
to
address
what
those
what
those
data
are
showing
us
so-
and
this
is
important-
why
we
do
fair
housing
planning-
is
to
ensure
that
all
residents
of
Arlington,
County
and
throughout
Metropolitan
Washington
are
connected
to
high
performing
schools,
healthy
neighborhoods
transportation
and
job
and
employment
centers,
and
are
living
in
fully
integrative
and
inclusive
neighborhoods.
E
Whereas
when
we
have
barriers
to
those
choices,
we
have
neighborhoods
and
schools.
Excuse
me
that
may
be
segregated,
limited
Transportation
options
that
then
can
negatively
impact
our
transportation
system
and
our
environment
and
people
may
be
exposed
to
environmental
hazards
and
living
in
unhealthy
neighborhoods.
E
Excuse
me,
there
are
eight
local
governments
who
are
collaborating
and
working
together.
The
Council
of
governments
is
an
association
of
of
24,
and
these
are
the
eight
entitlement
jurisdictions
that
have
come
together
to
including
Arlington
County,
five
jurisdictions
in
Northern
Virginia,
the
District
of
Columbia
and
then
in
Maryland
Gaithersburg
and
Montgomery
County.
We've
also
been
collaborating
with
our
partnering,
with
our
public
housing
authorities
and
in
those
respective
jurisdictions
as
well,
and
then
we've
had
an
amazing
Team,
also
supporting
us.
Throughout
this
process.
E
At
HUD
we
had
a
technical
assistance
provider
with
Urban
Enterprise
Community
Partners,
as
I've
shared
we've
had
our
lead
in
drafting
this
plan
has
been
the
lawyers
committee
for
civil
rights
under
law.
The
urban
Institute
is
the
lead
on
date,
collecting
quantitative
data
and
doing
initial
analysis.
Urban
Ochoa,
a
child
Urban
collaborative,
was
the
was
the
lead
for
our
community
engagement
process.
E
We've
also
had
a
community
advisory
committee
that
has
been
working
with
us
throughout
this
process,
since
the
very
beginning
and
they've
been
helping
to
both
provide
guidance
and
input
to
the
local
governments
as
well
as
serve
as
a
bridge
to
Residents,
who
might
not
otherwise
be
comfortable
sharing
their
experience
with
with
local
governments,
and
these
are
regionally
serving
organizations
that
work
with
people
impacted
by
fair
housing
choice,
foreign.
This
has
been
a
a
multi-year
planning
process,
but
it's
also
in
a
a
plan.
That's
been
many
years
in
the
making.
E
and
we
were
all
set
to
begin
this
process
initially
back
in
2018,
when,
unfortunately,
there
were
some
changes
at
the
federal
level
that
caused
us
to
a
little
bit
of
a
delay,
but
fortunately
all
the
local
governments
came
together
and
determined
that
this
was
a
a
worthy
process
to
engage
in
together
and
so
in
21.
We
kicked
off
officially
with
the
our
consultant
team
and
began
a
data
and
collection
analysis
through
phase
one
with
Urban
Institute
then
built
on
those
findings.
E
To
then
go
out
into
community
and
work
on
the
sort
of
call
it
more
qualitative
side
with
workshops,
focus
groups,
surveys
and
interviews
and
then
the
spinal
phase
that
we've
been
in
led
by
the
lawyers
committee,
which
just
says
to
synthesize
all
of
this
information
and
put
it
into
a
draft
plan
which
is
here
for
your
consideration
today.
E
So
I
just
want
to
share
a
couple
of
of
things
about
the
data
that
were
gathered
for
Arlington
County.
Specifically,
this
is
demographics.
None
of
this
was
probably
a
surprise
to
sort
of
any
of
you
here,
but
certainly
this
is.
They
have
shifted
since
1990,
and
here
you
can
see
how
those
demographics
have
changed
in
Arlington
relative
to
the
region
and
in
particular
noting
that
the
Asian
Pacific
Islander
population
has
grown
most
significantly
in
Arlington
County.
E
Among
people
who
don't
speak
English
as
the
first
language
Spanish
is
the
most
prevalent
and
from
2015
to
2019.
Arlington
County's
population
of
limited
of
residents
with
limited
English
proficiency,
actually
declined
by
15
percent,
and
then
you
can
see
her
play
here
on
your
screen.
I'm
gonna
move
this
around
that
El
Salvador
is
the
most
common
country
of
origin
for
those
not
who
are
foreign
Bone
born
who
live
in
in
Arlington
County.
E
Now
some
other
data
points
that
have
informed
the
goals
and
strategies
for
Arlington
County
include
poverty
rates
and
then
before
I
show
this
map.
It's
just
important
to
note
that
in
in
2019
one
person
the
poverty
levels
include
mint
and
income
of
just
under
twelve
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
per
year
and
25
750
for
a
four-person
family
and
the
areas
that
are
started.
Shaded
in
darker
colors
show
higher
shares
of
people
living
in
poverty.
E
So
this
is
a
map
of
Arlington
County.
Only
five
tracks
in
the
southern
and
western
parts
of
the
county
have
poverty
rates
of
15
to
20
percent
and
median
rent
by
census.
This
means
median,
of
course,
is
that
this
is
the
represents.
The
rent
that
is
at
the
middle,
so
half
of
the
rents
in
Arlington
or
more
for
more
of
this
amount
and
half
Are
For
Less,
and
here
in
this
next
map,
the
darker
areas
that
are
shaded
represent
higher
costs.
E
So
this
shows
the
three
census
tracts
in
Arlington
County
had
median
runs
above
300
and
3
500
a
month
or
more,
and
forty
percent
of
the
tracks
have
median
runs
of
2,
000
or
more
so
again.
E
Nothing,
that's
probably
a
surprise
to
you,
but
the
the
the
rents,
housing,
rents
and
and
Arlington
are
quite
High
and
then
I'm
gonna
before
I
hand
it
over
I'm
just
to
to
Joel
to
walk
you
through
the
the
proposed
goals
and
strategies
that
just
want
to
make
a
few
brief
points
that
there
are
seven
goals
and
strategies
that
are
shared.
E
These
are
goals
that
will
be
implemented
locally
by
Arlington
County,
as
well
as
the
other
seven
jurisdictions
and
again.
These
are.
These
were
informed
by
this
really
comprehensive
multi-year
planning
process
and,
in
addition
to
these
seven
shared
Regional
goals,
some
jurisdictions
have
goals
that
are
specific
to
their
communities
and
Joel's,
going
to
walk
you
through
those
that
Arlington
has
selected
for
their
implementation.
E
This
process,
as
well,
and
the
reason
that
these
these
goals
are
limited,
the
shared
goals
are
limited,
were
to
choose
those
ones
that
were
most
likely
to
have
the
greatest
impact.
Rather
than
having
lots
of
goals.
We
chose
ones
that
fewer
goals
that
we
thought
might
have
the
greatest
possibility
of
moving
the
needle
for
fair
housing
choice
in
Metropolitan
Washington.
So
thank
you
very
much,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
to
Joel
to
walk
you
through
the
next
part.
D
Great
thank
you
Hillary,
so
yeah.
So
the
first
goal,
which
applies
to
Arlington
as
well
as
its
neighboring
jurisdiction,
is
increase
the
supply
of
housing
that
is
Affordable
to
families
with
incomes
at
60
percent
of
area.
Median
income
are
below
in
the
region,
particularly
in
areas
that
have
historically
lacked
such
housing.
D
Some
of
the
strategies
that
we
are
all
committed
to
working
on
together
are
listed
here.
The
first
one
lower
the
income
targeting
of
housing,
affordable
to
people
with
incomes
of
80,
a
very
meaning
to
sixty
percent
and
below
in
order
to
address
the
chronic
housing
shortage
for
low-income
individuals
and
Families.
D
Second,
provide
low
interest
loans
to
single-family
homeowners
and
grants
to
homeowners
with
households.
Incomes
up
to
80
percent
of
the
area
mean
income
in
order
to
develop
accessory
dwelling
units
with
affordability,
restrictions
on
their
property.
Lastly,
on
this
one
I
use
a
local
government
financing
and
regularly
regulatory
tools.
This
could
include
things
such
as
bonds,
real
estate,
tax
transfer,
taxes,
inclusionary
housing,
as
of
right,
accessory
dwelling
units
and
public
lands
set
aside
for
affordable
housing.
D
So
next
slide
in
addition
to
the
strategies
shared
previously
so
Arlington
County
has
committed
to
take
additional
actions
that
work
toward
the
shared
goal.
The
first
recommendation
is
to
continue
to
encourage
developers
to
exceed
Hillary.
Can
you
go
to
the
next
slide
there?
Thank
you.
The
first
one
is
to
encourage
developers
to
succeed
their
required
number
of
affordable,
accessible
units
in
a
range
of
sizes
and
types.
When
development
occurs,
what
we've
been
seeing
is
demand
for,
affordable,
accessible
housing
units
often
exceeds
Supply.
D
Persons
with
disabilities
are
more
likely
to
live
below
the
poverty
line
than
persons
without
disabilities.
It
is
therefore
recommended
that
Arlington
County
continue
to
support
and
encourage
the
development
of
accessible
units,
a
second
deep
and
affordability,
affordable
housing.
The
data
shed
light
on
the
need
to
better
match
our
affordable
housing
efforts
to
the
needs
of
the
community
and,
as
such,
we'll
be
looking
for
every
opportunity
to
provide
deeper
affordability
to
meet
the
needs
of
households
with
incomes
under
40
percent
of
their
immediate
income.
D
So
this
could
include
providing
incentives
for
the
inclusion
of
extremely
affordable
housing
units
that
are
funded
by
the
county
are
when
projects
seek
refinancing
through
the
county,
incorporate
adjustments
to
the
affordability,
covenants
and
increase
the
share
of
those
units
dedicated
to
lower
affordability
levels,
also
exploring
mechanisms
to
reduce
County
fees
and
related
infrastructure
costs
for
100,
affordable
developments,
provide
incentives
or
low
interest
loans
for
homeowners
who
rent
their
accessory
dwellings,
as
was
mentioned
on
the
previous
slide.
D
Lastly,
we're
undertaking
a
new
homeownership
study
that
would
take
a
step
back
from
our
home
ownership
programs
to
really
develop
clear
goals
for
our
approach
for
home
ownership
and
to
rethink
how
best
to
achieve
those
defined
outcomes.
Homeownership
program
should
serve
as
a
continual
program.
Delivery
included,
tended
to
educate,
guide
and
assist
moderate
income
arlingtonians
along
the
path
to
sustained
home
ownership.
This
will
include
reviewing
existing
home
ownership
programs
and
exploring
additional
programs
to
support
prospective
first-time
home
buyers
and
existing
low
and
moderate
income
homeowners
as
well
next
slide.
D
So
the
second
goal
is
to
reform
zoning
and
land
use
policies
to
expand
access
to
fair
housing
Choice
by
increasing
the
development,
geographic
distribution
and
supply
of
affordable
housing.
The
first
strategy
is
to
increase
inclusionary
zoning
incentives
for
creating
on-site,
affordable
housing
and
increase
fees
in
lieu
of
providing
on-site.
Affordable
housing
next
is
to
adopt
affordable
housing
overlay
zones
to
increase
the
amount
of
land
or
developments
that
meet
robust
affordability
criteria
are
allowed
as
of
right.
D
The
board
will
hold
its
public
hearing
and
consideration
during
its
regular
March
meeting,
also
looking
at
initiating
a
zoning
study
to
examine
alternatives
to
the
current
definition
of
family
in
the
zoning
ordinance
in
response
to
the
changing
composition
of
families
and
households,
the
county
will
consider
changing
to
the
changes
to
the
zoning
Lawrence
to
allow
for
a
broader
definition
of
family
and
household
for
occupancy
purposes.
These
changes
will
allow
for
non-traditional
families,
extended
families
and
unrelated
individuals
to
live
together
to
reduce
their
housing
costs
and,
in
some
cases,
more
efficiently
access
services.
D
Also,
the
data
showed
that
a
high
percentage
of
older
households
are
cost
burden
and
highlights
the
increasing
needs
for
housing.
Affordability
for
older
households,
while
older
adults
are
welcome
and
all
committed,
affordable
housing
developments,
targeted
specifically
to
seniors,
could
focus
greater
attention
on
their
needs.
The
recommendation
here
is
to
initiate
a
study
to
examine
how
an
affordability
requirement
could
be
structured
within
the
Arlington
County
Resort.
Zoning
ordinance
for
senior
housing
projects
approved
via
site
plan
next
slide
goal.
D
Three
is
Implement
preservation
policies
designed
to
preserve
affordable
housing
and
prevent
displacement
with
a
goal
of
no
net
loss
of
existing
affordable
rental
units.
Now
the
regional
strategy
that
relates
to
Arlington
is
track,
affordable
housing
developments
and
expiring
subsidy
contracts
and
to
really
adopt
a
proactive
approach
program
to
prioritize
resources
for
the
preservation
of
that
housing.
D
Now
the
next
slide
specific
to
Arlington.
We
are
going
to
periodically
reevaluate
the
real
estate
tax
relief
program,
targeted,
seniors
and
disabled
homeowners
in
regards
to
deferrals
versus
exemptions,
asset
and
income
limits,
owners,
housing
costs
and
property
value
to
preserve
home
ownership
for
the
most
vulnerable.
D
Also
explore
reopening
the
housing,
Choice
vouchers
primary
waiting
waiting
list
in
order
to
solicit
new
income
eligible
households
seeking
rental
subsidy
supports.
This
federal
subsidy
is
targeted
to
low-income
and
extremely
low-income
households
through
a
deep
rental
subsidy
I
also
developed
a
proposal
for
the
review
of
the
housing
grant
program.
Eligibility
and
maximum
allowable
rents
really
conducted
an
evaluated
review
of
the
housing
grants
program
to
identify
the
program's
Effectiveness
in
meeting
the
housing
needs
of
extremely
low
income
households
and
to
develop
possible
program.
D
Adjustments
and
last
consider
developing
a
program
to
provide
financial
and
Technical
Support
to
low
and
moderate
income.
Homeowners
for
small
repairs,
State
planning
taxes
Aging
in
in
place
and
emergency
relief
next
slide,
so
go
for
goal.
Four
is
increase
the
number
of
homeowners
in
the
region
and
reduce
inequities
and
discriminatory
practices
that
limit
homeownership
opportunities
by
members
of
the
protected
classes.
D
Regional
strategies
include
increased
homeownership
opportunities
for
low
and
moderate
income,
members
of
protected
classes
by
ensuring
affordable
housing,
set-asides
and
new
developments
offer
home
ownership,
as
well
as
rental,
supporting,
first-time
homebuyers
by
expanding
financial
literacy
programs
and
homebuyer
education,
and
using
Innovative
homeownership
models
such
as
cooperatives
and
Community
Land
trusts,
and
support
current
homeowners
as
well
with
protected
characteristics,
including
racial
and
ethnic
minorities.
People
with
disabilities
and
seniors
through
increasing
fundings
for
repair,
rehab
and
renovation
programs
and
products
and
spanning
programs
to
provide
energy
efficient
improvements
to
lower
utility
costs.
D
Next
slide
goal.
Five
is
to
protect
the
housing
rights
of
individ
individuals
and
strengthen
fair
housing.
Education
Regional
strategies
include
reduced
barriers
to
accessing
rental
housing
by
eliminating
application
fees
for
voucher
holders
and
encouraging
landlords
to
follow
Hud's
guidance
on
the
use
of
criminal
backgrounds
and
screening,
tenants
pilot
a
right
to
council
program
to
ensure
legal
representation
for
tenants
and
landlord
tenant
proceedings
and
expand
and
increase
support
for
fair
housing,
Outreach
education
and
enforcement.
D
Next
slide
is
specific
to
Arlington.
We
want
to
test
for
housing
discrimination
based
on
disability
status
and
at
least
one
of
the
fair
housing
tests
in
the
next
five
years,
as
well
as
continue
tests
for
housing.
Discrimination
based
on
race
and
national
origin
testing
is
a
method
to
determine
whether
or
not
a
home
Seeker
is
treated
differently
in
their
search
for
housing.
D
Second,
provide
education
and
Outreach
to
potential
first-time
homebuyers
about
fair
housing
law
using
HUD,
certified
trainers,
home
buyer,
educated
education
and
credit
repair.
Education.
D
Third
make
the
fair
housing
Provisions
in
the
County
Human
Rights,
ordinance,
consistent
with
The
Fair,
Housing,
Act
of
1968
and
Virginia's
fair
housing
law,
including
adding
source
of
income
as
a
protected
class,
and
explore
becoming
a
substantially
equivalent
fair
housing
assistance
program
partner
with
the
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development
and,
lastly,
reduced
language
barriers.
D
Next
slide
is
goal
six,
which
is
to
increase
Community
integration
and
reduce
housing
barriers
for
persons
with
disabilities.
This
includes
prioritizing
home
and
cdb
cdbg
funds,
which
is
our
federal
funding
for
developments
that
include
permanent
Supportive
Housing
units,
negotiating
project-based
voucher
contracts
for
a
portion
of
affordable
units
and
inclusionary
developments,
and
set
aside
a
portion
of
those
project-based
vouchers
for
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
advocating
for
public
housing
authorities
to
adopt
admissions
preferences
for
individuals
with
disabilities,
who
are
institutionalized
or
at
risk
of
institutionalism.
D
An
adequate
for
new
multi-family
developments
with
public
funds
to
have
at
least
10
percent
of
the
total
units
accessible
to
persons
with
Mobility
disability
disabilities
and
at
least
four
percent
accessible
for
persons
with
hearing
are
visual
disabilities
next
slide
for
Arlington.
We
want
to
ensure
that
all
accessible
units
and
future
committed,
affordable
housing
developments
provide
the
same
features
as
standard
units.
D
D
D
So
hello,
if
you
can
go
to
the
next,
thank
you.
So
this
includes
the
review
of
current
metrics
for
goals.
D
And
Implement
an
equity
analysis
with
metrics
across
program
areas
and
develop
a
plan
for
mechanisms
for
collecting
a
reliable
demographic
data
and
residents
of
committed,
affordable
housing.
So
the
county
does
not
currently
have
a
reliable
mechanism
for
collecting
this
information
on
residents
of
committed,
affordable
housing,
Beyond
just
household
income.
So
in
order
to
better
understand
who
is
being
served
by
committed,
affordable
housing,
the
county
will
need
to
engage
with
home
owners
of
committed,
affordable
housing,
develop
an
effective
mechanism
for
collecting
demographic
data
on
our
committed,
affordable
residents.
D
D
Secondly,
the
existing,
affordable
housing
investment
fund
policy
does
formulate
further
fair
housing
Choice
by
having
the
goal
of
not
further
concentrating
a
low
and
moderate
income
households.
The
current
funding
criteria
for
investment
includes
a
geographic
distribution.
Category
are
given
Arlington's
low
poverty
rate.
D
There
are
no
racially
or
ethnically
concentrated
areas
of
poverty
as
defined
by
Hud,
but
we
could
potentially
Overlook
areas
in
need,
so
the
county
is
looking
at
a
modified
definition,
which
is
where
the
non-white
population
of
the
census
tract
is
reduced
from
50
to
46
percent
or
higher,
and
the
poverty
rate
is
reduced
from
40
percent
to
at
least
15..
So
it
is
recommended
to
include
the
the
modified
racially
and
ethnically
concentrated
areas
of
poverty
either
as
a
component
of
geographic
distribution.
D
Category
are
a
separate
category
in
the
existing
Financial
policy
when
new
committed,
affordable
projects
are
considered.
I
will
now
turn
it
back
over
to
Hillary
to
close
out
the
presentation.
E
Thanks
Joel
I
think
we
want
to
just
share
a
few
final
points
with
you
that
we
hope
you'll
remember
before
providing
your
your
your
insights
into
these
draft
proposed
actions.
First
of
all,
this
is
a
this
is
a
plan
for
Arlington
County,
but
it's
also
a
plan
for
the
region
and
its
impact
will
be
felt
in
other
parts
of
the
country,
as
HUD
has
been
looking
to
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
to
help
inform
the
future
of
fair
housing
planning.
E
Furthermore,
I
want
to
make
sure
everyone
is
clear
that
that
the
rationale
behind
Regional
coordination
is
to
improve
and
leverage
the
work,
that's
happening
at
the
local
level,
so
that
it
can
be
more
effective,
given
limited
resources.
Obviously,
this
is
changing.
Historic
patterns
of
residential
development
and
segregation
are
very
challenging
to
reverse
at
a
local
level,
but
at
a
regional
geography
we
can
be
more
effective
and
we'd
also
appreciate
your
help,
letting
people
know
about
the
opportunity
to
provide
input.
E
There
is
a
web
page
where
you
can
provide
comment
and
that's
at
mwcog.org
forward.
Slash,
fair
housing
plan,
foreign
oops
and
I'm.
Sorry
I
didn't
mean
to
I
meant
to
hit
enter
for
the
next
slide.
Not
stop
sharing
sorry
about
that,
and
just
in
terms
of
of
what's
going
to
happen
next,
following
the
close
of
the
the
public
comment
period
at
the
end
of
this
month,
the
plan
will
be
revised.
E
Then
it
will
go
through
a
legislative
review
process
by
Arlington
County,
as
well
as
five
other
of
the
jurisdictions,
and
then
it
will
be
I've,
received
final
edits
and
then
be
sent
to
HUD.
If
you
need.
E
If
there
are
questions
about
the
plan,
you
can
send
an
email
to
fair
housing
at
mwcog.org
or
to
Joel
Franklin
directly.
If
you
have
a
question
or
you
need
to
request
a
reasonable
accommodations,
we
have
two
phone
numbers
listed
here
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen
and
again
we
will
take
any
comment
in
writing
either
through
our
online
Forum
via
our
email
address.
E
E
And
also
here
are
our
contact.
Here's
our
contact
information,
if
you
have
any
other
questions,
be
happy
to
address
them
as
best
we
can.
Thank
you.
A
I
will
just
for
Commissioners,
we'll
open
up
to
questions.
So,
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
raise
your
digital
hand.
A
A
What
happens
now?
What
happens
then,
and
in
particular,
how
does
Regional
coordination
on
execution
happen
through
What
mechanisms
and
how
well
do
the
participating
jurisdictions
coordinate
with
each
other
in
the
execution
of
developed
strategies?
Historically,
that's
for
anyone
either
of
you
who
could
potentially
address
those
questions.
E
We
can
well
I,
think
I
think
that
I'm
happy
to
just
take
a
quick
stab
and
hand
it
over
to
Jones
and
as
soon
as
it's
once
it
goes
to
to
hide.
Then
we
move
quickly
from
planning
mode
to
implementation
mode,
because
my
planning
planning
is
divine
but
to
implement
is
so
planning
is
nice,
but
right
to
implement
is
divine,
so
the
move
into
implementation
mode
and
then.
E
On
on
the
mechanics
I'd
be
happy
to
to
chime
in
is
that
through
Cog
we
meet.
We
have
Regional
committees
where
we,
where
we
meet
and
I
anticipate
that
we
would
continue
to
coordinate
in
terms
of
our
strategies
going
forward.
D
And
it's
it.
We
obviously
will
will
continue
to
coordinate
with
Cog,
but
it
is
really
up
to
Arlington
to
implement
these,
and
so
we
have
a
kind
of
an
implementation
schedule
in
our
draft
draft
goals
and
strategies,
and
a
lot
of
these
things
are
are
part
of
other
efforts
as
well,
and
so
some
of
them
we've
already
started
working
on
some
of
them.
We,
we
are
anticipating,
we'll
start
in
the
next
year
or
two,
and
some
are
a
little
bit
farther
farther
down
that
the
the
goal
is.
D
You
know
these
are
to
be
tried
to
be
completed
within
five
years,
so
in
every
year
we
need
to
report
to
HUD
through
our
it's
called
our
Caper
I
think
you
maybe
are
familiar
with
that.
It's
our
our
reporting
system
to
HUD
on
how
we
are
doing
how
we
are
further
affirmatively,
further
permanently
furthering
fair
housing
in
Arlington,
and
so
we
will
be
reporting
each
year
on
our
accomplishments.
As
far
as
what
we've
been
able
to
accomplish
for
the
recommendations
that
get
adopted.
A
I
see
not
quite
any
questions
from
Commissioners
yet
so
I
will
unfortunately
keep
going.
What
impact
has
covid
and
changes
in
both
housing
needs
as
well
as
commercial?
You
know
new
ways
of
working
and
decoupling,
between
jobs
and
and
or
the
integration
of
home
and
jobs,
and
that
maybe
the
need
less
to
travel
to
if
you're
in
Virginia
and
Arlington
to
travel
to
DC.
A
D
I
mean
I
think
as
far
as
you
know,
Arlington
I
think
we
continue
to
see
the
need
for
that
lower
affordability,
especially
as
people
May,
have
a
little
fluctuation
in
their
job.
If
you
know
they're
they're,
not,
you
know
steadily
employed.
D
We
we
need
to
to
be
cognizant
of
that
and
lower
our
affordability
as
well
as
provide
you
know,
temporary
assistance
as
far
as
rent
to
them,
but
I
think
you
know
the
biggest
thing
I
think
we've
probably
seen
in
Arlington
right
is
the
the
vacancy
rates
have
gone
up
a
little
in
the
the
commercial
side.
So
there
is
some
thinking
that
maybe
there's
an
opportunity
there
while
expensive-
and
you
know
probably
a
little
time
intensive-
is
to
convert
some
of
that
commercial
into
residential.
D
G
Well,
certainly,
not
only
you
know,
coveted
cost,
a
wave
of
people
that
became
unhoused
or
marginally
housed
and
in
the
plan
as
a
result,
I
think
you'll
see
a
lot
of
tenant
protections
that
we've
made
recommendations
about
because
of
the
fragility.
The
sort
of
covid
highlighted
the
inequities
and
fragility
of
a
lot
of
people,
and
so
things
like
right
to
counsel-
and
you
know,
other
tenant
protections
are
very
intentional
and
because
of
the
because
the
exacerbation
of
how
unstable
housing
that
was
seen
during
the
covid
crisis.
B
A
Then
we'll
let
you
all
get
out
of
here,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
well?
The
question
is:
are
the
challenges
for
senior
renters?
A
How
are
how
I
think
one
of
the
barriers
that
were
identified
in
the
Arlington
portion
of
the
report
through
the
research
process
is
limited
number
of
affordable
rental
units
unit
choices
for
seniors
and
I'm
curious?
How
is
that
barrier
unique
for
them
as
compared
to
lower
income?
Folks-
or
you
know,
folks,
you
know
low-income
folks
or
with
folks
with
disabilities
I'm
just
curious.
What
are
the
unique
challenges
of
our
seniors
in
Arlington
with
respect
to
the
rental
market.
D
Yeah
I,
don't
think
it's
Unique
to
seniors,
but
I
think
what
we
are
seeing
is
in
it
is
an
increase
in
seniors.
Right
is
more
people
are
nearing.
You
know
that
retirement
age
and
Beyond
are
there
enough
options
for
for
them
to
afford
to
be
able
to
stay
in
Arlington
or
the
region
if
they
choose
so
I,
think
that's,
that's!
That's
the
challenge
to
to
kind
of
and
I
think
that
the
report
did.
Diane
can
speak
to
this.
D
That
did
highlight
you,
know
the
increase
in
those
numbers
that
are
that
are
caspered
and
through
Arlington
and
the
region.
Okay,.
G
Yeah
and
I
think
that
in
some
regards
it's
easier
to
develop
senior
housing,
because
some
of
the
NIMBY
sentiment
is
a
little
reduced
for
seniors
versus
you
know
regular
sort
of
low-income
people,
particularly
families.
G
On
the
other
hand,
you
know
seniors
often
have
limited
mobility
and
throughout
the
region
we
really
found
that
there
is
a
lack
of
accessible
housing.
So
some
of
the
recommendations
for
people
with
disabilities
are
certainly
with
a
mind
towards
seniors
as
well,
because
they're
often
the
same,
you
know
a
similar
population,
so
that
was
sort
of
foremost
in
our
minds
and,
of
course,
seniors
have
lower
incomes
than
people
that
are
of
working
age.
So
the
absolute
lack
of
affordability
throughout
the
region
really
impacts
seniors.
A
Thank
you
for
that
context.
I
appreciate
it.
Okay
last
call
for
questions
going
once
going
twice
sold.
Well,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
coming
and
for
the
extraordinary
work
on
this
plan,
and
we
will
be
sure,
as
a
commission
to
between
now
and
the
end
of
the
comment
period,
share
out
opportunities
and
and
we'll
review
the
plan
in
detail
on
our
own.
So
thank
you
all
for
coming
this
evening.
Thank.
G
D
A
H
A
H
If
you
want
to
that's
fine
I
I
would
just
like
to
say
it
as
as
a
developer,
who's
working
on
a
project
right
now
that
will
have
a
for
an
affordable
unit
component
down
in
Alexandria.
First
of
all,
nimbyism
has
no
bounds.
So
I
highly
disagree
with
that
last
assertion
about
about
senior
housing
projects
having
less
opposition.
In
fact,
I've
done
senior
housing
projects
in
different
parts
of
the
country.
H
In
some
cases,
it's
more
there's
more
opposition
to
it,
because
it's
seen
as
almost
like
you
know
like
a
like
a
congregate,
Care
Facility
with
nursing
stuff
that
people
don't
necessarily
want
in
their
neighborhood.
So
I
actually
disagree
with
that
from
a
practical
level.
The
other
thing
I
would
say
is
that
I
again
with
a
project
that
is
trying
to
break
ground
right
now
and
we
have
an
affordable
housing
component.
It's
it's
a
very
nice
goal
for
government
to
try
to
meet
affordability.
H
You
know
targets
and
development
for
of
new
product,
but
you
know
and
I
know.
This
is
not
an
uncommon
thing
for
a
developer
to
say.
H
If
you
want
to
lower
the
price
of
something
you
have
to
increase
the
supply
because
I
don't
see
the
demand
for
housing
going
down,
and
yet
the
cost
I
can
tell
you
that
the
cost
to
provide
housing
is
going
way
way
up,
and
that
means
that
you
know
we
have
experienced
a
35
hard
cost
increase
in
the
last
18
months
on
our
project
and
I'm
not
sure
it'll
go,
and
there
are
lots
of
other
projects
that
are
being
shelved
because
of
the
time
and
expense.
H
That's
involved
in
getting
projects
like
this
built
and
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
appropriate
oversight
is
not
important.
It
absolutely
is,
but
I
mean
it
has
taken
us
three
years.
This
is
a
deal
in
Alexandria,
so
it's
not
even
in
this
jurisdiction,
but
it
applies
in
Arlington
too.
It's
taken
three
years
to
get
through
the
requisite
approvals
and
depending
on
where
we
are
in
the
phase
of
the
project.
H
Every
month
costs
us
between
a
hundred
thousand
and
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
carry
costs,
and
so
basically
that's
the
cost
of
a
unit
every
you
know
two
to
three
months,
and
so,
if,
if
they
want
to
encourage,
you
know
more
affordable
housing
and
to
try
to
make
these
deals
pencil,
they
really
really
have
to
focus
on
an
efficient
approval
process,
because
I
can
tell
you
that
otherwise,
these
deals
will
not
be
financed
and
they
will
not
get
built.
A
No
I
appreciate
that
I
I
appreciate
that
perspective
and
I
think
there's
some
reporting
earlier
today
on
in
Arlington
challenges
around
permitting
so
I
think
an
approval,
so
I
I
think
a
challenge
throughout
the
just
throughout
the
jurisdictions
covered
by
the
plan
and
apologies
for
not
not
seeing
your
your
hand
in
time.
A
A
Yeah
might
I
any
changes
or
Corrections.
Otherwise.
Might
I
I
moved
to
approve
the
minutes,
love
it.
A
Have
a
second
all,
those
in
favor,
please
indicate
with
a
audible,
I,
I.
I
A
H
Yeah
zoom
in
maybe
here
too
so.
The
the
Outreach
subcommittee
met
a
couple
weeks
ago,
Kira
and
Matt,
and
myself
and
Hector
facilitated
the
meeting
so
the
con.
H
The
idea
behind
that
meeting
was
to
try
to
come
up
with
some
content
around
this
proposed
informational
flyer
that
we'd
like
to
see
distributed
to
tenants,
whether
on
a
voluntary
basis
by
landlords
or
a
required
basis
by
landlords-
and
you
know
the
things
that
we
talked
about
in
general-
that
we
thought
would
be
a
benefit
to
tenants
who
may
not
know
where
to
go
for
various
resources
depending
on
what
their
issue
is,
would
was
you
know,
essentially,
you
know
some
kind
of
contact
Section
that
for
various
you
know,
groups
and
departments
within
the
county
and
other
resources
which
could
you
know,
answer
questions
for
them.
H
Potentially,
so,
obviously
we
came
with
the
housing
division,
Department
of
Human,
Services
code
enforcement
and,
of
course,
the
TLC.
H
You
know
we're
open
to
other
resources
that
people
we
believe
you
know
that
the
commit
commission
might
feel
should
you
know,
should
provide.
We
should
provide
contact
information
for
those
groups.
So
that's.
This
was
just
kind
of
a
start,
and
then
we
got
into
kind
of
a
frequently
asked
questions.
H
H
You
know
what
happens
if
I'm
having
a
problem
with
my
lease,
whether
it's
I
can't
pay
my
rent,
or
you
know
things
like
that.
You
know
what
do
I
do
about.
You
know
other
common
lease
related
issues
like
noise,
complaints
and
things
of
that
nature.
H
So
you
can
see
the
questions
that
we
kind
of
came
up
with
here
and
the
idea
was
to
kind
of
provide
you
know,
links
or
resources
where
you
would
go
for
these
sorts
of
things
and
in
most
cases,
these
questions
or
the
resources
that
might
answer
these
questions
already
exist.
You
know
somewhere
online,
but
to
be
candid,
they're
kind
of
buried,
I,
think
I.
Think
Matt
was
pointing
out
that
you
know
it's
there's,
not
even
a
single
link.
H
If
we
wanted
to
give
someone
a
URL
to
any
of
these
resources,
it
would
be
about
you
know
it
would
be
about
this
long,
and
maybe
you
know
probably
too
long
to
include
on
a
flyer.
So
it
seems,
like
you
know
that
there
are,
it
might
be
a
more
simplified
way
to
you
know,
to
tell
to
communicate
to
you
know,
tenants
who
live
in
Arlington
where
they
might
find
information
on.
H
You
know
these
various
resources
that
can
that
might
be
able
to
answer
their
questions
or
address
their
problems,
and
you
know
so
so
this
is.
This
was
just
kind
of
a
Content
brainstorming
exercise.
I'm
happy
to
send
this
I
did
send
it
before
the
meeting
to
rolda
and
you
all
I
wrote
to
Chris
and
and
I
copy
the
other
Outreach
subcommittee
members,
but
to
the
extent
that
the
entire
commission
wants
to
look
at
this
and
maybe
provide
some
additional
input,
I
think
we
would
welcome
that.
H
You
know
there
again.
There
are
actually
a
fairly
good
amount
of
resources
available
online,
but
getting
to
them.
You
know
it's
they're,
not
publicized
per
se.
You
know
you'd
have
to
go
to
the
County
website.
H
You
know
kind
of
dive,
several
Pages
deep
into
either
the
housing
division
or
wherever,
and
you
know,
if
this
kind
of
flyer
you
know
not
this
format,
but
you
know
a
very
attractive
kind
of
graphically
designed
flyer
with
links
and
phone
numbers,
and
things
like
that
were
available.
H
I
think
that
including
information
on
what
the
TLC
does
and
when
so
you
see
that
down
here
at
number
four,
you
know
when
we
meet
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
I
think
making
these
resources
more
accessible
and
publicized,
you
know,
could
solve
a
lot
of
issues
and
maybe
even
prevent
some
to
the
extent
that
you
know
we're
worried
about
evictions
and
things
like
that.
H
So
and
then
the
last
thing
that
the
asterisk
at
the
bottom
here
was
Hector,
pointed
out
that
it
might
be
worth
our
time
since
we
are
the
tenant
landlord
commission
that
we
might
want
to
do
something
similar
for
small
landlords,
who
you
know
might
have
problems
with.
You
know
tenants
or
what
do
I
do
if
my
attendant
isn't
paying
or
you
know
be
a
resource
not
just
for
the
tenant
side,
which
I
think
we
spend
most
of
our
time
as
a
commission
on,
but
also
for
small
landlords.
H
Who
are
you
know,
property
owners
and
you
know,
might
benefit
from
you
know
some
direction
in
terms
of
County
resources,
for
you
know
for
landlords,
as
providers
of
housing
in
the
county.
So
that's
kind
of
the
summary
I
think
what
I'd
like
to
see
is.
H
If
we,
you
know,
we'd
like
to
try
to
finalize
some
at
least
some
big
picture
Concepts
and
get
some
input
from
commission
members
to
the
extent
that
a
topic
you
know
big
picture
topic
on
here
is
not
represented
that
they
think
should
appear
on
something
like
this
and
you
know,
and
then
I'd
ask
rolled
specifically
in
the
email
I
sent
before
the
meeting
about
how
we
would
you
know
kind
of
start
to
design.
H
You
know
the
look
of
a
flyer
and
again,
the
idea
here
is
to
have
a
single
page
front
and
backs
you
know
English
on
one
side,
Spanish
on
the
other,
but
otherwise
identical
on
a
single
page
and
to
produce
a
PDF
that
could
be.
H
You
know
either
published
online
in
a
very
easy
to
find
spot
emailed
out
to
landlords,
so
they
can
provide
it
either
on
a
volunteer
or
mandatory
basis
with
their
you
know
their
their
tenant
move-in
packages
and
then,
of
course,
if
somebody
wanted
to
print
out,
you
know
a
few
of
these
to
have
at
the
County
office
building
if
somebody
walked
in
and
they
needed
a
hard
copy.
That's
fine!
But
we're
not
talking
about
you
know
some
major
printing
exercise
of
15
000
Flyers
that
would
get
sent
through
the
mail.
That's
not
the
point
here.
H
This
is
a
an
electronic
thing
and
if
landlords
wanted
to
provide
this
in
a
hard
copy,
they're
welcome
to
print
off
a
copy
at
their
printer
kind
of
like
what
what's
required
with
the
recycling
Flyers
that
are
required
now.
So
what
I'd
really
like
to
do
is
get
some
input
on
this
and
then
move
forward
into
kind
of
a
design
phase
to
see
what
we
can
come
up
with
and
then
obviously
have
that
be
reviewed
by
the
commission
as
well.
A
Awesome
and
when
we
will
get
the
flyer
circulated
or
the
this
overview
circulated
to
the
full
commission
I'm
curious
when
oh,
that
is
disconcerting,
stop
sharing
your
screen
right.
A
A
It's
a
conception,
a
win,
would
you
like
feedback
from
the
full
commission
and
what
is
the
best
way
to
provide
it.
H
I
think
if
people
just
emailed
with
you
know
kind
of
bullet
points,
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
think
doing
I,
don't
I,
don't
if
they
wanted
to
email
me
back
in,
maybe
me
and
and
I
I,
don't
know
what
the
procedures
are
here
since
it's
public
stuff,
but
I
know
that
we've
got.
We
got
to
stay
clean
there
with
respect
to
communication.
We
don't
want
to
constitute
a
public
meeting
or
something
like
that
unauthorized.
So
if
people
want
to
respond
to
me,
I
can
gather
those
things
together.
I
think
that's
allowed.
A
Know
if
they
email
just
you
and
include
rolda,
so
there's
a
record
of
it,
but
then
yeah
we
try
to
avoid
conducting
a
meeting
which
I
think
is
defined
as
some
sort
of
simultaneous
Communications
back
and
forth.
So
I
think
just.
B
A
And
then
perhaps
Roald
you
can
all
right,
then
you'll
have
bullets
and
I
think
if
all
Commissioners
could
commit
to
reviewing
the
outline
when
you
receive
it
and
even
if
you're
a
note
to
Ryan
is
this
looks
great,
but
otherwise
provide
any
additional
topics,
feedback,
suggestions
and
then
did
you
give
a
date.
I
think
deadlines
help
everyone
Focus
the
mind
and.
H
I
I
thought
that
was
the
22nd
of
this
month.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
March
22nd.
H
Okay,
well,
we
may
we
may
need
to
either
push
that
back,
because
I
think
having
another
meeting
without
feedback
from
the
commission
would
probably
be
not
super
productive,
I'm
out
of
the
country.
Actually,
it's
not.
It
can't
be
the
22nd
I'm
out
of
town,
so
I'm
out
of
town,
the
last
two
weeks
of
the
month.
So
if
we
can
get
like,
if
we
can
get
feedback
back,
you
know
by
like
April
1st,
or
you
know
whatever-
that
is
April
2nd
3rd,
whatever
that
first
Monday
of
April
is
April.
H
I
Yeah
I
I
I
think
we
could
probably
move
it
to
April
and
just
have
it
be
our
regular
scheduled
meeting
in
April
and
be
good
with
that
and
we'd
still
be
on
the
timeline
that
we
want
to
be
on
yeah,
and
that
gives
the
people
a
little
bit
more
time
to
review
and
and
send
us
feedback.
So
I
don't
see
any
issue
with
that.
If
that
works
for
everybody.
H
I
No
I
think
you
covered
a
lot
of
it.
One
of
the
things
I
did
want
to
I
did
want
to
add,
was
possibly
compiling
a
lot
of
those
different
links
into
one
place
like
a
that
would
be
just
a
single
link
like
a
link.
Tree
sort
of
system
might
be
worth
it
so
that
people
you
know
when
they
have
those
FAQs
or
they're.
Looking
for
something
specific,
they
have
one
place
they
can
go
to.
I
I
That
has
all
these
different
things,
so
that's
sort
of
one
of
those
things
that
I
was
kind
of
kicking
around,
so
that
might
be
a
a
way
to
work
around
the
issues
that
we
have
with
the
length,
lengthy
URLs
and
just
a
way
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
accessible
for
people
who
are
not
gonna
spend
too
much
time.
You
know
searching
through
websites
and
web
pages,
and
all
that.
H
Yeah
and
I
think
that's
something
we
could
either
we
could
put
links
on
the
PDF
I
mean
once
this
becomes
a
PDF.
You
can
link
from
a
PDF
right,
but
secondly,
I
mean
it
could
be
just
a
a
place
on
our
on
the
TLC
page.
You
know
you
provide
a
like,
you
said
just
a
list
of
links
like
a
link
tree
or.
A
Whatever
all
the
links,
yeah,
yeah,
I'm,
curious
and
and
well
I'll,
just
put
this
out
there
that
committee
coordinating
through
Hector
to
speak
with
you
know
anyone
who's,
resp,
I,
don't
know
who
I
don't
know
how
the
website
is
maintained
or
the
TLC
page
in
particular,
if
that's
directly
updated
by
Hector
and
roll
that,
but
but
certainly
hopefully
we
can
leverage
our
own
page
to
be
a
home
for
this.
For
this
document,
including
the
links
as
well,
okay,.
H
There
were
two
questions
that
are
kind
of
open
questions,
I
think
for
rollda,
so
one
it
pertains
to
kind
of
like
how
something
like
this
gets
designed
right,
like
whether
the
county
does
that
internally
and
or
whether
we
have
a
little
bit
of
money
to
hire
a
third-party
graphic
designer
like
what,
if
you
know
when
the
county
wants
to
design
a
flyer,
how
does
that
get
done?
So
that's
something
that
we
don't
know
and,
and
then
I
think.
H
The
other
open
question
is
what,
whether
or
how
or
when
we
want
to
approach
our
County
Board
liaison
with
this
idea.
I
mean
I,
think
it
should
be
pretty
fully
baked
and
say:
hey,
look,
we
have
this
and
we're
we'd
be
interested
in
having
you
guys.
Consider
making
this
some
kind
of
mandatory
thing,
but
you
know
in
the
meantime,
can
be
optional.
So
those
are
two
questions
that
I
think
we
still
don't
really
know
for
certain
how
that
might
go.
B
No
I
was
just
about
to
say
that
a
couple
of
things
at
play
here
that
the
county
is
actually
a
housing
division
to
our
communication
staff
is
actually
working
on
some
of
this
stuff
to
make
the
website
much
more
friendly
and
actually
Jennifer
is
on,
and
she
can.
She
can
add
some
information
here.
B
C
Thanks
for
that
Ryan,
it's
interesting
to
hear
what
you
guys
are
working
on.
You
know
great
minds,
think
alike,
I
think
we
all
agree
that
the
the
County
website
it
got
revamped
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
I
think
it
made
it
less
user
friendly.
C
It's
it's
got
a
better
search
engine,
but
it's
really
hard
to
find
stuff.
So
that
is
something
that's
on
our
work
plan
and
our
com
staff
is
working
with
us
to
help
make
it
more
user-friendly.
As
far
as
documents
I
mean,
as
you
said,
we
have
a
ton
of
information
on
there.
It's
just
not
easy
to
find
it's,
not
necessarily
user
friendly
or
accessible.
So
we
do
actually
I.
Think
don't
quote
me
on
this,
but
here
I
am
being
recorded.
I
think
we
actually
have
some
money
this
year
to
produce
some.
C
You
know
nice
brochures,
some
nice
glossy
things
that
we
don't
usually
have,
and
so
what
we've
been
I'm
kind
of
talking
about
is
putting
together
a
packet
of
a
lot
of
this
information
that
you're
talking
about
you
know
related
to
tenant
rates
and
responsibilities,
but
also
related
to
things.
Like
you
know,
code
enforcement
I
think
you
mentioned
that
or
public
health.
What
do
you
do
if
you
have
pests
like
all
those
kinds
of
things
you
know
put
it
in
a
packet
and
actually
distribute
it
to
all
of
our
commit,
affordable
properties?
C
So
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
what
we're
talking
about
is
is
when
we
get
we
get
a
little
more
fully
baked.
We
would
love
to
come
either
to
a
full
commission
meeting
or
to
one
of
your
subcommittee
meetings
and
kind
of
put
our
heads
together
and
you
know,
make
sure
we're
hitting
on
the
stuff
that
you
all
think
we
need
to
be
hitting
on
and
maybe
some
strategies
for
outreach,
yeah,
I.
C
Kind
of
exciting,
like
we
never
have
money
for
this
stuff
and
I,
think
we
may
be
able
to
do
that
and
so
actually
print
stuff,
and
you
know,
make
some
some
nice
materials
and.
H
You
know
I
I,
like
Jennifer
I,
don't
think
you
were
part
of
the
discussion
when
we
talked
about
this
originally,
but
the
notion
that
I
mean
you
know
I.
So
as
a
small
landlord
right,
I
I
have
to
distribute
some
stuff
to
our
tenants
and
two
of
the
required
documents.
One
is
the
County
recycling
program
and
the
other
is
the
Statewide
Virginia
tenant
and
landlord
rights
and
responsibilities.
H
So
we
provide
that
with
all
of
our
leases
and
we
provide
the
recycling
stuff
annually
like
we're
asked
to,
and-
and
it's
not
that
hard
to
do,
and
so,
but
with
the
difference
there
is
that,
rather
than
create
a
big
packet
of
stuff
like
the
simpler
and
shorter
and
kind
of
more
concise,
the
better
I
think
you're
going
to
get
better
uptake
from
tenants.
I
mean
if
you
slap
the
handbook
on
their.
You
know
on
the
kitchen
counter
in
their
apartment,
they're
gonna,
like
put
it
in
the
trash,
can
or
whatever.
H
So
you
know
something
that
is
like
a
single
page
resource
was
what
we
were
aiming
for,
but
more
than
being
available
on
a
website
somewhere
where
the
resident
has
to
go.
Seek
it
out,
we
we're
looking
to
try
to
push
this
one-page
resource
out
into
kind
of
the
renter
community
and
whether
it's
the
committed,
affordable
or
really
Market,
wide
I
think
that
was
kind
of
the
direction
we
were
headed,
whether
it's
on
a
voluntary
basis
or
a
mandatory
basis.
You
know
that's
up
to
the
county
board,
but
I
mean
I.
H
H
A
Awesome
I'm
excited
for
greater
collaboration
on
this
point
and
it
sounds
like
it's
been
a
productive
month.
Keeping
I
want
my
acting
chairmanships
to
be
known
for
being
on
time,
and
so
with
15
minutes
remaining
I
want
to
make
sure
we
have
time
for
our
second
sub
committee,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
things
over
to
Emily.
J
Hi
I
think
we'll
be
pretty
quick.
So
the
last
this
last
meeting
we
had
Hector
and
also
Saul
from
bugatta
share
about
the
different
calls
and
like
the
categories
really
of
calls
that
they
get
from
tenants
and
landlords
and
what
questions
they
are
addressing.
What
they're
working
on
to
give
us
a
good
idea
of
for
the
alternate
dispute
resolution
committee,
which
is
the
subcommittee
that
we're
on
what
kind
of
issues
we
would
focus
on
I.
J
Think
my
takeaway
and
I'll
ask
Kristen
if
she
wants
to
add
anything
from
that
is
that
the
county
is
well
equipped
in
the
information
going
off
of
everything
that
we
just
discussed
to
share
with
tenants
and
to
help
with
those
next
steps
and
the
role
that
the
TLC
can
really
play
is
helping
the
landlords
show
up
and
doing
I.
Think
I
think
it
all
relates
to
like
what
we
said
with
the
Outreach
committee
to
to
land
their
understanding.
What
we're
doing
as
well.
J
I
really
liked
Ryan
that
part
that
you
shared
of
not
just
the
tenant
information,
but
the
landlord
information
is
important.
J
So
next
subcommittee
meeting
where
it's
going
to
be
more
discussion,
based
where
we
can
dive
into
what
now
that
we
have
a
good
understanding
of
the
kinds
of
questions
that
are
being
asked
and
what
the
support
that
the
residents
need.
What
can
we
do
to
help
that
communication
between
tenants,
landlords,
awesome,
Chris,
Chris,
anything
you
want
to
add
I.
F
Think
the
only
thing
I
wanted
to
add
is
that
we
have
to
be
sure
that
we
focus
our
build
our
our
drive
to
help
with
dispute
resolution
to
a
very
narrow
field,
because
otherwise
you
know
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
pests
that
we're
talking
about
unhappy
residents
in
general,
where
we
talk
about
rent
increases
and
evictions,
and
so
much
of
that
it's
actually
directed
were
directed
by
the
vrlta.
F
So
I
don't
know
that
we
necessarily
want
to
get
involved
in
mediating
that
what
I
heard
from
Saul
was
one
of
the
things
that
his
residence,
the
people
he
speaks
to
are
are
most
unhappy
about
in
general,
is
the
lack
of
good
communication,
the
lack
of
perceived
respect
and
not
listening,
and
that
is
something
you
know
that
I
don't
think.
F
Maybe
that
would
help
so
I'd
like
us
to
sort
of
focus
on
that
a
bit
because
I
think
so
many
of
the
other
issues
that
Hector
and
Saul
touched
on
during
our
meeting
are
bigger
than
what
we
can
handle
and
are
already
really
addressed
to
the
vrlta.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Apologies
checking
the
chat.
Okay
I
have
a
couple
of
brief
updates
and
then
and
other
staff.
If
there
are
any
announcements
and
then
we'll
wrap
up.
So
just
a
few
updates
one
I
a
few
weeks
ago
had
an
opportunity
to
attend
a
community
meeting
at
the
Serato
invited
by
the
county
I
think
through
oldest
coordination,
it
was
a
community
meeting
for
residents.
A
You
know
with
Hugh,
you
know
with
you
know
many
of
the
property
managers
and
on
site
you
know,
okay
attended.
You
know
it
was
advertised
well,
but
had
maybe
about
10
or
12
residents
come
to
talk
about
some
of
the
more
recent
challenges
that
we've
been
hearing
about.
You
know
my
big
takeaway
was
that
the
elevators
were
sort
of
the
bigger
issue
in
the
last
couple
of
months
and
you
know
was
able
to
get
some
additional
context.
A
For
example,
you
know
I
think
we
heard
that
there
was
a
delay
in
beginning
repair
work
on
the
elevators.
You
know
floor
contacts.
You
know
it
appears
that
the
the
the
property
manager
had
awareness
of
the
you
know.
On
the
same
day
that
the
elevators
failed,
they
had
folks
out,
but
they
actually
had
to
build
a
part
which
took
I
believe
you
know
nine
ten
days
now,
even
though
that
might
be
reasonable
that
there
needed
to
be
the
time
for
repairs.
A
The
results
of
that
were
was
folks,
particularly
elderly
folks,
in
the
building
you
know
having
to
climb
multiple,
multiple
flights
of
stairs
or
even
in
some
cases,
folks
being
afraid
to
come
down
because
they
were
afraid
to
go
back
up.
A
A
But
I
think
the
consensus
was
that
it
highlights
the
age
of
the
building
itself
and
the
need
for
a
broader
effort
to
to
renovate
or
redevelop
and
that's
going
to
require
funds,
and
so
I
I
did
find
management
responsive,
at
least
in
the
room,
that's
otherwise
what
I
would
expect
in
a
community
meeting,
they
call
I
think
the
final
thing
is
and
I
think
we
heard
a
little
bit
of
it
ourselves
in
public
comment.
But
there
was
some
discussion
around.
A
You
know
folks,
coming
to
property
management,
and
you
know
we're
told
oh
we've
got
lawyers.
I
did
ask
that
question
of
Representatives
the
property
manager
and
Property
Management.
It
was
denied
outright
and
I
did
note
that
that
seems
like
a
very
specific
type
of
allegation,
but
they
denied
it.
So
I
I
think
you
know,
counties
deeply
committed,
I,
think
we'll
be
hearing
from
them
later
this
year.
On
broader
calf
efforts.
A
You
know
we
have
I,
think
David
and
his
email
has
made
it
clear
that
you
know
our
goal
is
to
get
tenants
who
come
to
us
from
the
Serrano
who
are
highlighting
issues
of
public
of
Public,
Health
or
safety.
Get
them
connected
with
the
county
through
the
right
resources,
but
it
was
a
good
I
think
session
to
go
out
and
visit
and
I've
asked
that
next
time
there's
another
Community.
A
You
know
building
at
the
meeting
a
community
meeting
at
the
building
that
Commissioners
be
letting
know
so
that
we
can
get
out
into
the
community
in
some
of
these
cases
and
I
think
that
it
was
really
valuable.
A
Second,
quick
update
is
tomorrow
right
now
the
board
is
conducting
a
set
of
work
sessions
related
to
the
budget.
We
will
have
a
presentation
on
the
budget
check
me
next
month,
rolda
or
may
I
can't
remember
where
it
exactly.
We
landed
it's
going
to
be
in
April
April.
A
So
we'll
have
a
session
from
the
Department
on
on
the
housing
component
of
the
budget.
Next
tomorrow,
though,
the
county
there
will
be
County
Board
working
session,
we'll
all
represent
the
commission
with
respect
to
to
the
budget,
just
to
speak
on
some
of
the
priorities
identified
in
the
budget.
I
do
encourage
you
all
to
take
a
look.
A
If
you
don't
want
to
die,
the
budget
itself
is
a
thousand
Pages
total,
but
hopefully
the
county
manager
includes
a
section
on
housing,
affordability
that
outlines
the
investment.
A
You
know,
for
example,
the
county
is
investing
about
76
million
dollars
in
housing,
affordability
efforts
this
year,
you
know
direct
housing
assistance
as
well:
affordable
housing,
Supply
so
encourage
you
all
to
take
a
look
at
that
as
well
before
our
housing
meeting
and
I'm
sure
we'll
we'll
get
that
out
and
about
to
folks
rholda.
Do
you
have
any
updates
or
announcements
for
us
I.
B
Just
have
one
announcement
I
sent
out
and
send
out
a
link
this
afternoon
for
the
Housing
Commission
meeting
tomorrow
and
then
maybe
something
that
members
might
be
interested
in
because
that's
where
the
Serrano
as
quickly
reported
that
will
actually
be
handled
tomorrow
at
the
commission
at
the
Housing
Commission
meeting,
perhaps
HC
Representatives,
as
well
as
advocates
and
meeting
tenants.
B
So
this
is
sort
of
like
the
follow-up
to
what
had
happened
a
couple
of
months
ago,
so
that's
different
place
tomorrow.
I
think
that
was
all
the
other
thing
is,
as
you
might
have
noticed,
you've
been
receiving
fairly
regular
weekly
reports.
It
looks
like
on
eviction
reports
from
Legal
Services
at
Northern
Virginia.
So
you
know
just
if
let
me
know
if
you
want
to
continue
to
receive
those,
and
perhaps
at
some
point
we
can
have
them
talk
talk
with
us.
B
If
you
know
the
commission
isn't
interested
in
getting
more
of
that
information.
I
think
we
had
some
some
attendees
on
here
this
evening.
A
B
A
Good
and
any
any
comments,
I
want
to
say
for
the
order,
but
that's
old
days,
but
any
other
any
other.
Commissioner
updates
comments,
questions
things
left
unsaid,.
K
Yes,
I
have
a
comment,
pleasure
Chris.
Thank
you
for
your
comments
on
Serrano
yeah.
That's
what
we
usually
find.
They
are
right
denying
the
items
that
are
reported
by
the
residents,
but
I'm
glad
that
the
TLC
is
actively
participating
in
the
tenant
meetings
that
I
look
forward
to
and
to
see
what
happens.
So
we
have
to
get
accurate
information,
so
I
appreciate
that.
A
Absolutely
and
and
Regatta
was
there
as
well,
which
I
appreciated
too
so,
as
well
as
those
folks
from
the
county.
So
yeah
I
appreciate
that
okay
well,
look
at
this
8.25.
H
Can
I
make
a
motion
to
recognize
Chris,
wimbush's
timing,
efficiency
and
we
do
like
I
don't
know?
Can
we
do
like
a
like
anal,
some
kind
of
like
I?
Don't
know
it's
not
Memorial,
because
you're
not
dead,
but
some
kind
of
some
kind
of
motion
that
he
really
ran
this
thing
on
time
and
I
love.
It.