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C
Ne
hi
Bridget,
it's
Steve's
tricker
will
present
for.
D
So
the
three
of
us
will
be
tag
teaming
on
the
presentation,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
some
introductory
information
a
little
bit
of
project
overview.
D
This
is
showing
the
school
board's
charge
for
the
project.
This
was
approved
by
the
board
at
schematic
design.
With
the
requirements
you
see
for
capacity.
The
instructional
programs
included
in
the
facility
total
project
budget,
the
site
facilities
associated
with
the
project,
building
size
and
schedule.
D
Next
slide
is
a
summary
of
community
engagement
to
date,
with
the
joint
blpc
pfrc
meetings
listed
there,
some
other
community
engagement
meetings
and
also
also
the
commission
meetings
to
date.
D
D
Real
quick
overview
of
the
campus
as
it
for
the
proposed
site
plan,
so
we
have
the
existing
ACC
building,
which
will
remain
the
new
ACC
facility
along
the
frontage
of
South
Walter
Reed,
the
existing
mpsa
building
Montessori
Public
School
of
Arlington,
which
will
remain
where
the
current
parking
lot
is
now
will
be
a
artificial
turf
field.
And
of
course
we
have
a
revised
Bus
Loop
for
the
Montessori
program,
because
the
the
new
ACC
building
actually
cuts
off
their
bus
loop
as
it
currently
runs
out
to
southwall
to
read.
E
Steve,
just
I'm
going
to
do
a
quick
overview
of
the
parking.
F
E
Recommendations
and
some
of
the
site
circulation
details.
You
know
the
current
campus
currently
has
Montessori
Public
School
Arlington,
the
existing
career
center,
the
Fenwick
building
and
some
temporary
classrooms
that
is
served
by
surface
parking
lot
with
a
150
spaces
on
it
right
now
and
various
curbside
uses
surrounding
the
campus.
E
E
G
E
Buildings
are
going
to
go.
I
would
note
that
the
approach
to
Ada
parking
here
is
kind
of
a
two-pronged
approach.
The
parking
garage,
of
course,
will
have
a
reservoir
of
ADA
parking,
but
also
in
conjunction
with
County
staff.
We've
been
looking
at
some
more
convenient
Ada
parking
public
Ada
parking
not
dedicated
at
several
spaces
on
Walter
Reed
in
Seventh.
Street
I
also
want
to
discuss
a
little
bit.
The
ultimate
plan
on
the
next
slide
kind
of
shows
when
we
developed
our
parking
recommendations.
E
We
had
this
context
in
mind
that
the
mpsa
ability
to
come
down
with
that
parcel
being
redeveloped
into
something
to
be
determined
in
the
future
and
the
the
moving
to
where
the
existing
Career
Center
building
is
in
a
new
facility.
The
reason
we
look
at
that
is
is
we
know
the
school
boards
approved
amount
of
population
on
the
on
the
campus
allows
for
a
larger
mpsa
program
there.
E
This
slide
kind
of
quickly
summarizes
how
we
put
together
some
of
the
assumptions
that
went
into
the
parking
model.
We
did.
We
took
a
lot
of
parking
data,
the
length
the
Project's
been
around
long
enough.
We
actually
updated
from
two
different
years,
most
recently
from
2021,
and
we
took
all
the
various
uses
on
campus
and
calibrated
our
model
to
that,
estimating
the
amount
of
people
parking
on
the
site
on
street
off
the
site
and
off
Street
off
the
site.
E
Once
we
had
that
model
calibrated,
we
did
two
Future
model
runs
both
based
on
the
population
of
the
ultimate
conditions
shown
here
with
the
career
center
students
and
a
larger
Montessori
program,
and
then
the
removal
of
acss
in
the
library
that
was
gonna
doubt
is
the
ultimate
conditions
that
were
assumed
and
then
two
different
future
models
will
run
with
what
we
call
the
base
TDM
and
enhanced
TDM
the
base
TDM,
reflecting
the
survey
mode
split
results
from
the
latest
APS
go
surveys
with
enhanced
TDM
matching
more
targets
that
we
would
like
to
see
in
the
future.
E
The
next
slide
summarizes
quickly
the
the
what
our
future
parking
demand.
Model
results
were
showing
the
total
amount
of
parking
demand
based
on
the
type
of
user
in
the
model,
so
these
results
combined
with
a
couple
other
factors,
such
as
a
policy
decision
not
to
provide
dedicated
parking
for
high
school
students
that
drive
the
inclusion
of
some
storage
for
the
auto
program
and
a
little
bit
of
desire
for
flexibility
led
us
to
come
up
with
our
recommendation
at
the
garage
have
at
least
345
spaces.
E
So
just
there's
a
couple
different
numbers
thrown
around
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
all
clarified.
We,
our
recommendation.
Aps
was
the
garage,
be
345
spaces
or
more,
you
think
the
zoning
Mission
minimum
should
be
set
or
the
use
perimeter
should
be
set
to
a
number
lower
in
case,
for
example,
there's
some
better
mode
splits
in
the
future,
and
so
parking
could
be
reused
without
having
to
get
a
New
Year's
permit
and
when
the
parking
garage
was
eventually
designed,
it
has
a
capacity
for
up
to
360
spaces.
E
So
that's
why
you
see
a
couple
numbers
all
around
that
320
to
360
number
range.
It's
a
little
bit
the
supply
recommendation
or
the
demand
projections
aren't
exactly
a
matching
the
supply
as
it's
designed
or
what
we
think
the
use
permit.
Minimum
spaces
on
site
should
be
a
little
bit
of
information
on
on-street
parking.
Like
I
said,
we
took
a
lot
of
data
about
the
on-street
parking.
The
the
study
area
of
public
parking
had
close
to
900
spaces
in
it
at
the
peak
time
in
the
afternoon.
E
The
spaces
surrounding
the
career
center
get
pretty
full,
as
would
be
expected,
is
the
exception
being
the
immediate
response
at
9th,
Street
and
I.
Think
an
important
thing
to
point
out
here
is
over
500
spaces
in
a
study
area
are
unrestricted
spaces
and
over
half
of
those
are
were
available
at
Topeka
times
when
parking
demand
was
highest
in
the
neighborhood.
So
that
gives
a
little
bit
of
context
to
our
recommendation
about
not
building
parking
garage
spaces
dedicated
for
high
school
students.
E
When
the
peak
demand
our
parking
model
said
it
was
around
70
for
those
students
and
we're
finding
multiple
hundreds
of
unrestricted
spaces
in
nearby
shifting
to
the
internal
streets
and
a
little
bit
on
a
site
circulation.
E
One
of
the
one
of
the
features
we
really
like
about
this
project
are
the
internal
streets,
they're
designed
to
be
flexible,
curbless
environments
that
really
allow
a
lot
of
flexibility
for
the
school
and
it's
vehicles
to
use
it
as
a
seated
arrival.
Dismissal
then
also
serve
other
needs
throughout
the
day
and
not
just
be,
you
know
curved
asphalt
streets.
E
What
we're
showing
here
is
potential
places
for
buses
to
load
and
unload
students.
This
is
really
the
worst
of
the
worst
case
scenario,
because
it's
kind
of
showing
where
all
the
spaces
could
might
be
needed
for
if
both
schools
had
their
dismissal
at
the
same
time,
which
wouldn't
be
the
case
other
other
things
to
play
now.
Some
of
the
pedestrian
paths
on
the
west
side
of
the
existing
Career
Center
building.
E
There
is
a
path
from
the
garage
that
leads
to
the
internal
campus
circulation
and
there's
also
a
secondary,
accurate
supply
to
the
new
career
center
off
of
7th
Street.
E
So
the
next
slide
shows
a
little
bit
of
details
on
the
on
the
shared
space.
We
realized
that
it
completely
undefined
shared
space
system
would
not
be
the
most
appropriate
for
a
school
with
with
various
populations
of
Ages
and
types.
So
there
are
some
traditional
Street
elements
included
truncated,
domes,
crosswalks,
things
that
give
structure
at
key
locations
in
terminals.
E
The
bike
parking
for
the
new
Career
Center
building
is
kind
of
distributed
along
the
new
buildings
and
Fields
on
campus
with
class
two
spaces,
pretty
much
located
at
all
doors
and
entry
points
to
the
new
career
center.
To
point
out
that
several
locations
of
the
class
two
spaces
are
covered.
Those
are
shown
in
the
blue
dots
here.
The
overall
number
of
bike
parking
spaces
is.
G
E
Are
provided
among
these
not
not
counting
the
existing
parking
at
the
current
mpsa
building?
E
We
have
a
couple
renderings
showing
this
is
the
main
entry
where,
with
with
kind
of
buses
during
dismissal
and
non-dismissile
times,
the
next
rendering
kind
of
shows
the
main
a
shared
Street
crossing
next
to
the
field
and
what
it
could
look
like
when
there's
buses
on
it
and
when
there's
none
and
then
with
that
I'll
pass
it
to
Maggie.
Who
can
discuss
some
of
the
streetscape
improvements.
I
Rob
here
we
have
the
entire
campus,
we're
looking
at
a
little
bit
of
a
technical,
drawing
where
I
would
say
well
coordinated
with
staff
on
this
project
and
feel
pretty
good
about
a
lot
of
good
collaboration
on
this
project
so
far,
but
for
a
small
section
of
Highland
in
front
of
the
existing
mpsa
building.
All
of
the
streetscapes
for
this
campus
are
going
to
be
improved
with
this
project
and
that
that's
our
real
Focus,
the
couple
things
before
we
flip
the
slide.
I
There's
an
act,
Ive
active
ongoing
project
for
the
complete
streets
along
South,
Walter
Reed
we've
had
extensive
coordination
with
that
project
team
we
are
including
utility
locations,
so
we're
well
coordinated,
coordinated
there
and
then
on
9th
Street
kind
of
a
similar
story.
I
The
complete
streets
project
overlapped
with
about
half
of
9th
Street
for
our
campus
and
the
remaining
portion
has
been
a
lot
of
good
discussion
about
how
to
allocate
the
available
and-
and
it's
actually
still
ongoing
in
terms
of
we've
settled
on
a
dimension,
but
not
a
final
configuration,
and
that
was
you
know
that
that's
ongoing
discussion,
but
but
very
good
collaboration
on
the
next
few
slides
here.
I
We'll
have
a
few
critical
points,
yes
of
cross
sections
and
really
what
we're
focused
on
here
are
the
streetscapes,
and
so
this
is
one
of
the
critical
points
along
South
Walter,
Reed
Drive
at
the
new
school
and
there's.
We
also
had
some
good
coordination
with
the
Fire
Marshal's
office
and
this
30-foot
Dimension
here
we
see
at
the
kind
of
the
bottom
is
a
critical
dimension
for
emergency
vehicle
access
to
the
new
facility
and
between
in
this
particular
section
A
critical
area.
There's
you
know
a
parked
car.
I
Potentially,
we
need
to
be
able
to
access
the
building
for
that
30
foot
Dimension
here
and
on
one
of
the
next
slides,
we'll
see
a
bus
stop
so
we've
well
coordinated
those
dimensions
and
have
a
pretty
typical
allocation
of
the
residual
streetscape.
The
Maybe
Sawtooth,
maybe
there's
a
better
term
of
art,
but
the
the
configuration
of
the
building
along
Walter
Reed
has
a
lot
of
good
interest
in
these.
I
This
14
foot
Dimension
is
at
a
pinch
point
and
otherwise
it's
wider
with
you
know
we
have
programmed
and
typical
Street
trees
along
the
entire
Frontage,
so
so
Walter
reads
and
I
believe
pretty
good
shape.
Again.
This
is
another
30
foot,
Dimension
critical
section
there.
This
section
is
for
seventh
street
again
we're
focused
on
the
streetscape
and
on
this
particular
section.
Our
site
is,
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
this
section
and
where
today,
the
curb
line
for
7th
Street,
you
may
know,
has
a
four
foot
existing
concrete
sidewalk
and
a
fence
immediately
behind
it.
I
So
pretty
tight
configuration
for
pedestrians,
We've,
coordinated,
we're
going
to
provide,
provide
a
five
foot
buffer
grass
strip
and
a
six
foot
sidewalk,
and
in
this
particular
section
the
building
doesn't
even
show
up.
It's
in
excess
of
you
know,
30
feet
or
more
beyond
the
curb,
so
so
pretty
good
Improvement
there
pedestrian-wise
streetscape
wise
for
seventh,
pretty
similar
situation
on
Highland
Highland's
got
a
a
narrower
sidewalk
and
a
small
two
foot
grass
strip
buffer.
I
This
project
increases
that
buffer
provides
a
wider
six
foot
wide
sidewalk
very
similar
to
what
we
just
looked
at
on
7th
Street.
This
is
at
a
critical
point
at
the
parking
garage
there.
So
that's
what
we're
looking
at
for
Highland.
I
And
in
this
presentation
we
do
have
two
Alternatives.
We
have
been
studying
with
staff
for
the
allocation
of
the
road,
the
road
with
for
ninth
and
we
we've
had
I
would
say
such
great
collaboration.
So
far,
we've
settled
on
a
dimension
which
is
going
to
be
the
45
feet
that
allows
us
to
set
a
curb
line
program,
our
streetscape
and
then
continue
to
decide
how
best
to
allocate
the
available
space,
whether
to
protected
bike
lanes
and
or
parking
kind
of
tied
into
what
Rob
was
just
presenting
on
in
terms
of
on-street
parking.
I
So
really
the
internal
part
of
ninth
is
we
have
a
lot
of
flexibility
for
how
that
might
get
allocated,
we'll
sort
that
out
with
Arlington
County
moving
forward
at
the
focus
on
the
streetscape
for
a
second,
we
have
a
I'm.
Sorry,
maybe
back.
One
second
got
a
very
generous
streetscape
there
to
let's
say
Protect
that
garage
six
foot
wide
sidewalk,
a
large
planing
buffer
behind
it.
I
You
see
the
trees
against
the
parking
garage
for
some
screening
there,
so
yeah
and
I
think
our
last
slide
here,
tied
to
streetscapes
focused
on
on
Seventh
and
again
with
some
planned.
Some
known
future
construction
for
the
npsa
existing
building,
that's
Demolition
and
repurposing
of
that
space
into
something
else.
I
We
don't
want
to
invest
in
permanent
infrastructure
for
the
streetscapes
for
7th
and
Highland,
just
immediately
in
front
of
that
building
everywhere
else
we're
providing
Street
skates
we
just
talked
about,
and
but
we
also
realized
that
this
stretch
along
7th
Street
in
front
of
the
mpsa
building
and
referred
to
on
this
slide
as
the
Patrick
Henry
building
so
same
building
is
burdened
by
some
existing
utility
poles.
I
So
there's
been
some
good
coordination
with
Des
to
to
add
some
remove
and
replace
with
a
wider
sidewalk
up
to
six
feet
to
to
ease
that
concern
in
the
interim
and
then
at
some
point
in
the
future,
when
the
npsa
building
is
removed
and
reprogrammed,
then
you
know
a
streetscape
will
be
provided
as
appropriate
at
that
time.
So
I
think
that
that
yeah,
when
that's
the
streetscapes
so
Steve,
are
you
going
to
talk
about
TDM.
E
I'll
jump
in
there's
really
just
a
just
a
really
quick
overview
about
PDM.
Well
as
like
all
APS
schools,
the
TDM
plan
is,
is
really
based
on
guidelines
that
were
assembled
in
the
aps.
Go
master
plan
which
outlies
all
the
TDM
there
for
the
schools
in
the
county.
E
The
mmpa
has
a
section
on
a
TM
where
it
looks
at
the
tools
that
are
in
the
toolbox
and
the
aps
code
program
and
and
kind
of
suggest
which
of
those
the
career
center
building
and
campus
could
really
focus
on,
and
those
will
be
the
building
blocks
that
form
the
school's
TDM
plan.
D
Thanks
Rob
and
Matt,
so
I'm
gonna
go
through
the
phasing
plans
for
the
project
fairly
quickly
talk
about
phasing
and
schedule
existing
conditions.
You
guys
are
familiar
with
the
site
I
do
want
to
park.
I
do
want
to
point
out
here.
D
Currently
there
are
150
surface
spaces
on
site
and
that's
exclusive
of
the
modular
classrooms
that
are
currently
on
site.
We
actually
provide
250
spots,
total
for
staff,
150
on-site
as
I
pointed
out
here,
and
we
also
lease
another
100
spaces
at
the
EC
DC
garage.
That's
across
9th
Street.
Our
intent
throughout
the
construction
is
to
maintain
those
250
spots,
there's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
give
and
take
on
what
is
leased
from
ecdc
and
what
is
actually
available
on
site.
D
D
Both
of
those
are
being
done,
of
course,
to
clear
out
the
eventual
footprint
of
the
new
building,
which
is,
as
I
said,
the
phase
two
portion-
and
you
can
see
in
this
phase
that
because
of
the
limits
of
construction,
there's
a
couple
things
that
are
happening.
One,
the
parking
on-site
is
getting
smaller
and
again
the
the
balance
of
that
will
be
provided
at
ecdc.
D
You
can
also
see
that
the
Bus,
Loop
or
Montessori
is
reconfigured
due
to
the
fact
that
now
we're
cutting
off
their
access
to
their
existing
access
to
southwall
to
read
so
we
create
a
loot,
Bus
Loop
that
comes
in
and
out
of
Highland
for
Montessori.
The
career
center
Bus
Loop,
maintains
from
in
on
Highland
to
out
on
South
Walter
Reed
a
couple
of
elements
I
want
to
point
out
during
this
phase,
one
there's
a
large
storm
pipe
that
comes
down.
D
D
In
addition,
during
the
time
when
we
are
constructing
the
new
ACC
building,
we've
been
discussing
that
APS
take
over
the
management
of
the
complete
streets
project
between
9th
and
7th,
so
there
will
be
streetscape
work
occurring
during
this
period
of
time
too,
and
I
should
I
should
also
note
that
the
schedule
for
phase
two
is
I
know
I
mentioned
before
December
2023,
but
essentially
December
23,
January
24
somewhere
in
that
in
that
time
frame
to
start
the
project
with
completion
in
January
of
2026.
So
it's
a
two-year
two-year
construction
project
for
phase
two.
D
You
can
see
during
this
phase
once
we
move
into
the
new
ACC,
the
relocatables
are
gone,
so
this
actually
increases
the
on-site
parking
during
this
phase
and
I
should
also
mention
Matt,
Matt
mentioned
and
Rob
as
well
about
the
streetscape
improvements
that
we'll
be
doing
around
the
perimeter
of
the
site.
Each
of
those
streetscape
improvements
will
occur
adjacent
to
the
existing
phase,
so
when
new
ACC
is
being
built,
we'll
do
the
streetscape
improvements
along
South
Wall,
to
read
and
coming
up
seventh.
D
Base
Four
occurs
once
the
new
four-story
parking
garage
is
able
to
be
occupied
at
that
point,
there's
no
longer
a
need
for
parking
on
site
that
allows
us
to
turn
that
previous
surface
parking
lot
into
an
artificial
turf
field
and
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation
I
mentioned
summer
of
2027
for
completion,
and
you
can
see
that
that
date
reflected
there.
D
D
So
during
schematic
design
approval
by
the
school
board,
they
also
included
a
motion
essentially
to
commit
to
refreshing
the
existing
ACC
building,
which
which
would
be
vacated
for
purposes
of
moving
the
mpsa
program
over
there
and,
at
that
point,
demolishing
the
existing
mpsa
building
to
turn
that
into
Green,
Space
or
or
fields
that
that
project
is
not
part
of
our
project.
That
would
be
a
future
Capital
project,
but
we
have
done
some
exploratory
exploratory
work
to
see
how
mpsa
could
actually
fit
into
a
renovated
ACC
building.
D
So,
as
I
said,
that
would
be
a
future
project.
The
school
board
would
have
to
vote
on,
would
have
to
vote
on
that
and
fund
it.
It's
intended
that
that
be
addressed
in
the
next
10-year
CIP,
which
is
to
be
which
is
to
be
passed
in
the
summer
of
2024.
D
Beyond
that,
just
a
couple
of
quick
renderings
to
give
a
little
bit
more
context
to
the
site,
South
Walter
Reed
at
the
bottom
of
the
page
here
the
Bus
Loop,
going
through
the
site
here
and
the
new
building.
Of
course,
there
I've
also
got
some
views
of
the
parking
garage.
This
is
looking
to
the
West
on
9th
Street
and
this
is
standing
at
Highland.
Looking
back
to
the
east,
looking
at
the
parking
garage-
and
you
can
see
the
existing
ecdc
Garage
in
this
location,.
C
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
share
my
screen
here.
Let's
make
sure
technology
is
working
good
evening.
This
is
Robert
Gibson
from
Arlington
County
Des.
We
are
really
bringing
this
forward.
This
career
center
project
forward,
after
a
very
long
public
process
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
presents
a
little
bit
of
extra
information
from
from
what
APS
has
already
presented.
C
You
may
be
familiar
with
this,
but
this
is
the
existing
career
center
site.
It's
about
one
block
north
of
Columbia
Pike
and
the
campus
houses,
both
the
career
center
building,
which
is
shown
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
the
page
and
the
Patrick
Henry
building,
which
is
the
home
to
the
Arlington
County
Montessori
program,
which
is
on
the
right
hand.
C
Side
in
between
those
two
is
a
large
surface
parking
lot
that
is
currently
partially
occupied
by
additional
School
trailers
and
then
mid-block
on
the
bottom
of
the
site
is
the
Fenwick
building
which
is
slated
to
be
removed,
and
that
program
moved
off
the
campus.
C
C
As
Steve
has
mentioned,
there
are
approximately
a
150
spaces
on
the
surface
parking
lot.
Additionally
the
Columbia
Pike
Branch
library
is
located
within
the
the
career
center
building
and
overall,
the
site
is
a
12.7,
Acre
Site.
So
one
of
our
larger
sites
that
that
we
see
it's
zoned
s3a
and
it
is
identified
in
the
general
land
use
plan,
the
glup
as
public,
and
then
this
parcel
shows
up
in
the
form-based
code,
Columbia
Pike
form-based
code
plan
for
the
bottom,
two-thirds
of
the
site
within
the
commercial
form,
viscode.
C
Some
statistics
about
the
project
that
is
proposed
in
association
with
the
use
permit
building
a
is
the
new
career
center
building
that
is
proposed
along
South
Walter,
Reed
Drive.
It
is
proposed
to
have
a
design
capacity
and
student
capacity
of
1619
students.
C
It's
it
will
be
supported
by
a
five
tier
above
grade
garage
located
with
its
access
off
of
South,
9th
Street,
and
it
we
are
recommending
the
use
permit,
approved
a
minimum
of
345
spaces
in
that
garage
and
APS
has
demonstrated
that
it
could
have
a
capacity
of
up
to
360
spaces,
but
as
EV
charging
evolves
and
other
uses,
potentially
additional
Ada
spaces
get
considered.
C
We
think
it's
appropriate
to
allow
future
repurposing
and
reallocation
of
spaces
without
additional
County
Board
action,
and
that's
why
we're
recommending
the
345
number
the
345
is
a
represents,
a
modification
from
the
minimum
required
parking
for
the
campus
at
576
spaces.
We
recommend
the
modification
as
APS
is.
Descent
has
demonstrated
that
the
based
on
their
estimates
and
detailed
study
of
school
parking
demand,
the
345
spaces,
could
meet
that
capacity.
C
Additionally,
the
the
career
existing
career
center
building,
a
portion
will
be
demolished
to
support
the
construction
of
the
proposed
garage
and
at
the
completion
of
the
or
with
the
approval
of
the
use
permit
on
the
at
the
completion
of
the
new
career
center
building.
The
capacity
the
student
capacity
in
the
existing
career
center
will
be
zero
students
until
a
future.
C
County
Board
action
occurs
amending
that
and
permitting
the
the
transfer
potentially
of
the
mpsa
program
into
that
building,
and
that
would
occur,
presumably
with
a
full
public
review,
including
the
pfrc
and
blpc
consistent
with
our
approach
for
reviewing
public
facilities.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
Fenwick
building
is
proposed
to
be
demolished.
C
The
project
proposes
a
Central
curbless
Plaza
to
support
bus
operations
and
Student
Activities.
This
represents,
along
with
the
Synthetic
Turf,
a
radical
transformation
of
the
interior
of
the
campus
Shifting,
the
the
interior
of
the
campus
Focus
away
from
vehicles
and
towards
Student
Activities.
C
C
Space
for
the
career
center
and
and
the
public
at
large,
the
Patrick
Henry
program
would
be
would
continue
to
to
have
488
students
of
design
capacity
and,
in
addition,
APS
is
executing
a
number
of
site
improvements
to
support
the
ongoing
activities
at
the
end
at
the
Patrick
Henry
building
and
the
mpsa
program
that
will
get
delivered
this
summer,
so
that
those
improvements
are
in
place
prior
to
the
construction
of
the
new
career
center
project.
C
Steve
talked
about
all
of
the
sidewalk
improvements
that
are
occurring.
This
diagram
outlines
the
specific
limits
of
those
projects.
Aps
will
be
improving
about
83
percent
of
the
sidewalks
that
front
the
property.
The
Blue
Area
here
represents
a
sidewalk
project
that,
based
on
community
input,
Des,
is
identified
as
a
key
Improvement
to
support
the
facility
in
the
long
run
in
until
future,
improvements
removing
the
mpsa
occur.
This
widens
an
existing
sidewalk
of
four
feet
to
six
feet.
C
The
existing
four
foot
sidewalk
has
a
number
of
utility
poles
in
it
which
pinch
the
sidewalk
down
to
as
as
little
as
30
inches
of
clear
space,
and
with
that
in
mind,
we
think
it's
appropriate
to
to
make
this
Improvement
sooner
than
later,
and
Des
will
make
the
sidewalk
widening
efforts
occur
this
this
summer,
when
APS
has
completed
their
site
improvements
for
the
mpsa
project
and
then
the
remaining
locations
we
recommend
get
addressed
with
the
removal
of
the
mpsa
project
along
South
Island
Street.
C
There
are
existing
Street
trees
at
the
back
of
sidewalk
in
some
locations
and
that
we
don't
recommend
get
removed
at
this
time.
In
addition,
there
is
a
two
and
a
half
foot
planting
strip
along
South,
Highland
Street
that
ensures
that
the
utility
poles
are
out
of
the
clear
sidewalk
Steve
and
the
team
have
talked
about
the
sidewalk
improvements
in
streetscapes
along
the
Project's
Frontage
I'm,
going
to
focus
on
two
specific
things
really
quickly
to
talk
about.
C
These
represent
the
most
significant
Transportation
improvements
around
the
site
and
they
will
be
execute
delivered
by
both
Arlington
County
and
APS
as
part
of
the
project,
specifically,
the
South
Walter
greed
complete
streets
project
that
the
county
has
undertaken
and
has
gone
through
a
number
of
rounds
of
public
review
on
so
far.
At
this
point,
we're
at
the
90
design
phase
and
Arlington's
efforts
will
really
refocus
South
Walter
Reed
Drive
in
a
multi-manner
transportation,
focused
Street.
C
It
will
have
improvements
for
new
floating
bus,
Islands,
new
protected
buffered
bike,
Lanes
additional
Green,
Space
shorter
pedestrian
Crossings
at
the
intersections,
and
all
of
this
will
will
have
a
significa
significant
impact
on
safety
for
all
users,
with
the
likely
results
of
reducing
speeds
along
South
Walter
Reed
Drive
than
this
runage.
The
other
area
that
I'd
like
to
discuss
is
the
South
Highland
Street
improvements
and
I'm.
Sorry,
that's
South
the
9th
Street
South
improvements
where,
during
the
process,
we
heard
a
lot
of
discussion
about
how
this
project
could
address
the
bike
Boulevard.
C
You
know
significantly
impacted
by
the
the
new
garage
having
its
garage
access
off
of
ninth
and
how
how
could
the
existing
shared
bike
shared
on-street
bike
Lanes
be
improved,
working
with
APS
and
looking
at
opportunities
associated
with
the
way
the
the
garage
is
cited.
We
identified
that
it
was
appropriate
to
widen
the
frontage
of
widen
South
9th
Street
so
that
it
could
be
45
feet
in
width
and
I'll.
C
Have
a
more
detailed
discussion
coming
up
about
what
the
options
for
that
increased
width
could
be,
but
generally
APS
is
proposing.
Widening
the
sidewalks
on
all
of
the
neighborhood
fronted
streets
to
a
minimum
of
six
feet
and
along
South,
Highland
and
7th
street,
where
the
project
is
is
making
improvements.
Adding
a
five
foot
planting
strip
that
utility
poles
can
be
located
in
and
then
adding
additional
Street
trees
and
canopy
trees
at
the
rear
of
the
sidewalk.
C
Some
points
about
the
site,
circulation,
I,
think
and
specifically
the
the
pickup
and
drop
off
the
puto
for
for
the
multiple
programs
that
are
going
to
occur.
C
Rob
discussed
this
I
think
very
quickly,
but
with
the
with
the
programs
opening
up
at
the
new
career
center
building,
the
pickup
and
drop
off
for
students
arriving
by
by
by
family
vehicles
is
plans
who
occur
along
South,
Walter,
Reed
Drive
on
the
building's
Frontage
that
will
result
in
the
on-street
spaces
there
being
scheduled
so
that
they
there's
no
one-street
parking
during
morning
arrival
and
departure
along
South,
Highland
Street,
the
pickup
and
drop-off
for
the
Montessori
program
will
continue
along
the
Montessori
building
or
the
Patrick
Henry
buildings
Frontage,
and
then
there's
a
variety
of
time,
restricted
and
unrestricted
parking
around
the
campus
on
the
the
sites
side
of
the
street
and
on
the
adjacent
streets
across
from
the
project
and
specifically
around
the
site.
C
There
are
170
on-street
parking
spaces
that
could
be
utilized
with
for
for
the
school
and
the
general
public
use,
and
that's
in
part
why
staff
believes
that
the
the
345
spaces
in
the
in
the
proposed
garage
represent
a
good
balance
between
utilizing
parking
on
site
and
using
existing
on-street
resources
to
support
the
programs.
C
Steve's
talked
about
the
project,
phasing
the
four
phases
that
will
include
the
demolition
of
the
fun
with
building
and
the
construction
and
the
ends
and
the
and
preparing
some
additional
outdoor
space
for
APS
and
phase
one.
This
summer,
then
work
will
start
on
the
construction
of
APs,
the
new
ACC
building
on
South
Walter
Reed,
starting
the
end
of
2023,
beginning
of
2024
and
extending
through
December
2025..
This
this
work
will
principally
occur
from
South
Walter
Reed
Drive.
C
C
Then
once
the
school
is
is
built,
the
garage
is
proposed
to
be
built
on
the
corner
of
9th
and
South
Highland
Street,
that's
roughly
a
one-year
construction
period
in
2026
through
2027.
Once
the
garage
comes
online,
the
existing
surface
parking
lot
can
be
taken
offline
and
re
repurposed.
As
the
proposed
turf
field
I
mentioned
the
County's
complete
streets
project.
C
Briefly,
we
are
in
the
90
design
phase,
and
these
diagrams
show
the
the
proposed
alignment
of
the
Lanes,
where
additional
on-street
parking
and
and
on-street
parkings
proposed,
where
new
Crossings
are
proposed.
Bus,
Islands,
additional
stormwater,
Planters
and
storm
water
management
facilities
are
proposed
along
this
along
this
stretch
and
associated
with
the
project
in
combination
with
aps's
work.
C
These
two
projects
should
radically
transform
South
Water
re-drive,
putting
a
a
real
multi-modal
focus
on
the
roadway
and
the
the
roadway
will
provide
an
all
ages-
all
users
protected
bike
for
facility
to
support
the
educational
activities
that
are
going
to
occur
at
this
campus
and
to
support
cyclists
within
the
community.
More
broadly,
as
we
think
about
supporting
all
ages
and
all
abilities
of
cyclists,
we
turn
to
the
South,
the
The
Ninth
Street
South
potentials.
Within
the
45-foot
section
that's
proposed.
C
There
are
roughly
three
options
that
we
feel
can
be
delivered
in
in
that
width.
It's
relatively
easy
to
change
these
over
time
and
by
establishing
the
45-foot
curb
to
curb.
The
space
could
be
used
to
provide
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
street
and
on-street
bike
Lanes
in
either
Direction
with
narrower
10
10
and
a
half
foot
travel
Lanes.
C
The
the
space
could
also
be
allocated
to
provide
protected
by
planes
on
each
side
of
the
street
and,
along
with
parking
on
the
north
side
of
the
street,
the
parking
on
the
South's
existing
parking
on
the
south
side
of
the
street
would
need
to
be
removed
to
support
the
protected
bike
Lanes
option.
A
third
option
is,
is
kind
of
a
hybrid
option
of
the
two.
C
It
keeps
the
on
street
and
maximizes
the
on-street
parking,
providing
it
on
both
sides
of
the
street.
It
provides
a
e
sorry,
a
westbound
bike
lane
along
the
Campus
Edge
that
is
protected
and
buffered
with
parked
cars
and
a
buffer
area,
and
then
the
eastbound
cyclists
would
be
supported
through
a
on-street
bike
lane.
C
This
is
an
area
that
we
hope
that
the
commission
can
provide
some
feedback
and
thought,
as
we
look
at
balancing
both
the
community
goals
of
improving
bicycle
access
and
safety
in
this
area,
while
also
considering
impacts
to
on-street
parking.
C
The
we've
gone
through
three
phases
of
public
engagement
on
this:
a
schematic
design,
phase,
a
conceptual
design
phase,
and
now
the
use
permit
phase,
specifically
the
East
permit,
has
been
under
review
since
December,
10th,
I'm,
sorry,
January,
10th,
sorry,
February,
7th,
and
we
have
had
a
number
of
public
meetings,
including
our
last
pfrc
meeting
on
May
17th
and
we're
here
today
on
the
25th
for
the
Transportation
Commission.
C
It
would
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
next
week
and
the
County
board
at
for
for
hearing
at
their
10th
July,
June,
10th
or
June
13th.
Meeting
with
all
this
in
mind,
staff
recommends
that
the
Transportation
Commission
recommends
of
the
County
Board
approval
of
the
proposed
used
permit
and
with
with
the
associated
modifications
for
height
setback,
parking
reductions
and
subject
to
the
conditions
that
are
presented
in
the
staff
report.
C
C
Absolutely
as
part
of
the
project,
there
is
a
proposed
vacation
of
what
once
was
Smith
Avenue
and
is
now
8th.
Street
would
would
now
be
8th,
Street
South.
C
This
existing
right-of-way
would
go
through
the
middle
of
the
proposed
new
ACC
building
and
actually
goes
through
the
middle
of
the
existing
Henry
building
and
has
for
not
quite
some
time.
So
we
recommend
vacation
of
the
existing
right-of-way
and
as
part
of
the
ordinance
of
vacation,
any
public
utilities
in
this
area
would
would
be
relocated
by
APS
I,
don't
believe
that
there
are
any,
so
that
is
a
standard
requirement
of
our
vacations,
but
not
necessarily
to
important
for
this.
C
Our
analysis
of
this
indicates
that
this
segment
of
8th
Street
is
not
part
of
the
master
Transportation
plan
and
therefore
the
commission
could
make
the
determination
that
the
proposed
vacation
of
the
portion
of
8th
Street
South
is
consistent
with
the
MTP
and
those
are
our
recommendations
for
the
two
items.
I
open
this
up
to
the
commission
for
discussion.
Thank
you.
A
J
Okay,
thank
you.
I'm
Chris,
the
sawbert
I'm
speaking
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
Arlington
Heights
civic
association,
I'm
co-president
of
the
civic
association
this
year,
I
think
the
transportation
committee
or
commission
for
hearing
or
comments
I
sent
a
letter
or
the
Arlington
Heights.
J
Civic
association
has
sent
a
letter
dated
May
10th,
and
hopefully
you
got
that
and
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
for
this
commission
a
couple
of
things
so
Arlington
Heights
actually
has
more
Public
Schools
APS
schools
than
any
other
neighborhood
in
Arlington
and
we're
been
always
been
very
supportive
of
APS
and
all
the
construction
that
we've
had
in
our
neighborhood.
In
the
recent
years
we
just
have,
and
generally
we
support
the
new
ACC
Building
100
support
Montessori
moving
into
the
Legacy
Career
Center
building,
so
that
the
old
Patrick
Henry
building
can
be
torn
down.
J
But
we
do
have
some
ongoing
concerns
that
we
feel
should
be
addressed
before
the
use
permit
is
approved
and
and
I
feel
like
these.
These
ongoing
concerns
are
are
not
unreasonable
and
and
hopefully
that
they
could
be
resolved
before
construction
starts
and
just
to
begin,
I
I
agree
with
Mr
Gibson.
This
has
been
a
very,
very
long
public
process.
I
know
I've
been
working
on
this
since
2017
from
the
very
first
career
center
working
group
and
I.
J
Think
that
you
know
for
those
of
us
in
the
neighborhood
getting
from
the
career
center
working
group
which
pretty
much
started
at
the
end
of
2017.
To
now
it's
been
a
really
long
road,
but
that
road
has
been
full
of
ideas
and
I
won't
say
promises,
but
in
the
beginning
we
were
going
to
build
the
jewel
of
Columbia
Pike
and
now
we're
at
a
place
where
the
entire
sidewalk
around
the
parcel
is
not
going
to
be
improved
and
I
know
you
know
I've
heard
Steph
say
well.
This
is
interim.
J
This
is
interim
and
I
I.
Think
that's
where
we
mostly
disagree,
because
this
use
permit
on
the
on
the
final
day.
You
still
have
the
Patrick
Henry
building
there.
You
still
have
a
a
sidewalk
in
streetscape
that
has
not
been
improved
and
improved
and
I
understand.
J
You
know
when
the
ACC
building
opens
in
let's
say:
January
2026.
On
that
day,
you're
going
to
have
about
3
000
people
on
campus
you're
gonna
have
the
kids
parking
in
the
neighborhood
to
go
to
their
career
center
classes,
they're
going
to
need
sidewalks
to
walk
on,
and
we
shouldn't
have
to
wait
until
way
after
2028
or
or
who
knows
how
long?
In
order
to
get
streetscape
and
and
a
sidewalk
improvements.
I,
don't
think!
That's
right!
I,
don't
think
it's
commensurate
with
how
other
neighborhoods
have
been
treated.
Thank.
J
A
K
Hi
I'm
speaking
tonight,
because
our
president
was
unable
to
be
here
but
Penrose
did
sign
on
to
the
pike
presidents
group
letter
that
was
sent
also
Arlington
Heights,
civic
association
and
Penrose
I'm,
going
to
address
the
issues
that
we
have
had
from
day
one,
and
they
are
the
same
issues
five
six
years
later
and
it
has
not
been
changed.
K
So
we
are
going
to
object
to
the
issuing
of
a
use
permit,
as
requested
by
APS,
and
here
is
some
of
the
issues
that
are
outstanding,
woefully
inadequate
parking
on
the
site.
K
K
Likewise,
the
artificial
turf
and
the
playgrounds-
and
that
is
sprinkled
throughout
the
site,
is
a
material
that
cannot
be
recycled.
It
is
very
expensive.
It
is
not
really
fun
for
little
kids
to
have
to
play
on
that.
So
we
object
to
that
material.
We
also
object
to
the
sheer
amount
of
impervious
surfaces,
sprinkled
throughout
the
design.
K
K
Gold
in
particular,
also
six
foot
fencing
when
the
neighborhoods
wanted
four
foot,
fencing
removing
of
trees
on
the
perimeter,
sidewalks
kill,
trees,
I've
seen
it
again
and
again
and
again,
and
it
takes
seven
to
fifteen
years,
but
they
kill
trees,
also
phase
three
future
Capital
project
has,
in
other
words
removing
the
third
building
is
not
mentioned
on
the
use
permit
and
the
neighborhoods
are
being
told
that
that
will
be
a
future
Capital
project
and
that
is
not
adequate
unless
somebody
wants
to
sign
a
legal
document
and
put
their
name
on
it.
K
So
I
think
that
we
are
in
alignment
with
the
other
groups
along
the
pike
and
the
design
insufficiencies
that
could
be
addressed
and
we
don't
have
to
keep
talking
about
it.
Maybe
we
could
just
solve
it.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
you
very
much
to
our
two
speakers.
All
right,
I
believe
this
is
now
with
the
commission.
So
Commissioners.
If
you
have
questions,
let's
start
with
questions,
we'll
move
into
the
comments
after
that
go
ahead
and
throw
your
hands
up
through
your
virtual
hands
up
I
know
we
have
at
least
one
commissioner
virtually,
and
we
will
dig
in
here,
commissioner
Theo
go
ahead.
L
I
have
many
questions
so
prioritizing
them.
So
if
I
have
to
get
cut
off,
then
I
can
manage.
Hopefully
so
one
question:
what
is
the
flow
of
buses
from
South
Walter
Reed
into
the
internal
streets,
the
bus
access
ways
I
saw
on
some
of
the
maps.
It
seemed
that
buses
could
be
flowing
from
the
internal
streets
in
onto
South
Walter
Reed,
or
is
it
just
from
South
Walter
Reed
onto
the
internal
streets.
D
Yeah
does
it
help
if
I
re-share
my
screen
here.
D
So
if
I
understood
the
question
correctly
regarding
bus
circulation
for
the
existing
ACC
building
in
order
to
drop
off
on
the
correct
side,
buses
would
come
from
South
Island
or
do
come
from
South
Island
and
exit
out
onto
South
Walter
Reed.
D
L
D
The
the
current-
let
me
let
me
go
back
to
the
existing
condition,
so
the
existing
condition
or
the
current
condition
is
such
that
there
are
two
separate
bus,
Loops
one
for
one
that
and
each
of
them
go
from
Highland
to
Walter.
Reed.
D
Current
condition
is
such
that
the
ACC
Bus
Loop,
basically
Remains
the
Same
right,
goes
from
Highland
to
Walter
Reed.
The
current
Montessori
Bus
Loop
is
in
on
off
of
Walter
Reed
and
through
to
straight
through
to
Highland,
because
we
cut
off
this
access
from
South
Wall
to
read
for
the
Montessori
Bus
Loop,
with
our
new
building,
we're
having
to
reconfigure
the
Montessori
Bus
Loop
to
be
this
u-shaped
Bus
Loop
that
will
come
in
and
off
of
South
Highland.
L
All
right,
so
the
reason
I'm
asking
so,
if
I
understand
this
after
construction,
there
will
be
buses
for
mpsa
that
exit
onto
South,
Walter,
Reed
Drive.
The
reason
I
ask
is
because
those
buses
exiting
onto
South
Walter,
Reed
Drive
I
have
some
concerns
about
visibility,
access
or
visibility
line
of
sight
for
those
bus
drivers.
The
new
ACC
building
appears
to
come
right
up
to
the
sidewalk
and
what
would
be
the
South
Eastern
corner
of
that
that
point
right
by
South,
Walter
Reed
Drive,
where
the
bus
is
re-exiting.
L
That
does
not
appear
to
give
a
whole
lot
of
line
of
sight
for
bus
drivers.
Exiting
am
I
understanding
this
correctly
right
now,
with
the
Fenwick
building,
there's
a
little
Plaza,
and
that
gives
quite
that
gives
some
good
line
of
sight.
Visibility
for
people
for
drivers
exiting
but
would
not
exist
in
the
new
construction.
C
This
is
Robert
Gibson
from
Des
the
the
proposed
ACC
building
is
offset
from
the
Bus
Loop
and
and
where
the
buses
would
be
coming.
C
It's
it's
probably
25
feet
or
so
from
the
the
curb
to
the
building
phase
on
that
that
interior
portion
and
then
it's
a
14-foot
sidewalk
that
is
along
South
Walter
Reed
Drive.
That
is,
at
the
pinch
point
there,
but
also
in
addition
to
that
sidewalk.
C
L
So
with
Buzz
buses
exiting
the
internal
streets
onto
South,
Walter
Reed
Drive,
if
they
are
stopping
and
I
guess
for
like
stop
sign
or
other
kind
of
point,
that
would
be
back
behind
where
the
sidewalks
begin.
My
concern
is
just
that
they're
with
taking
that
into
account.
I
can't
see
how
the
buses
would
have
good
line
of
sight
onto
the
southbound
traffic
of
South
Walter,
Reed
Drive.
E
C
Think
that
I
as
as
entering
any
vehicle
entering
a
roadway,
what
normally
would
happen
is
they
would
be
directed
to
stop
prior
to
crossing
the
sidewalk,
and
then
they
would
proceed
through
the
sidewalk
area
through
the
through
through
the
entrance
and
ensure
that
they
can
enter
the
roadway
safely.
L
Okay,
I
have
additional
questions,
but
if
anyone
else
wants
to
go
ahead.
M
C
There
will
be
two
conditions
along
seventh
and
I'm
going
to
share
my
my
screen.
Real
quick.
If
you
don't
mind.
C
So,
along
7th
Street
in
the
area
that
is
highlighted
by
or
Bound
by,
the
red,
that's
the
area
that
APS
is
making
improvements
within
that
segment.
C
There
will
be
a
five
foot
planting
strip,
the
six
foot
wide
sidewalk
and
new
canopy
trees
at
the
back
of
sidewalk
along
the
segment
that
is
blue,
Arlington
County
will
widen
the
existing
and
we
can
call
it
we're
calling
it
a
four
foot
wide
sidewalk
that
goes
from
the
back
of
of
curb
will
widen
that
from
the
back
of
curb
to
be
a
six
foot
wide
sidewalk
from
the
the
basically
this
site,
walkway,
where
APS
is
stopping
their
improvements
and
will
widen
that
to
the
intersection.
C
It's
the
existing
overhead
utility
poles
that
create
the
pinch
points.
Those
will
remain
in
that
location
until
APS
read
well.
The
polls
will
remain
in
that
location,
but
they
would
be
in
we're
recommending
that
when
mpsa
is
removed,
that
APS
or
we're
advising
I
I
think
is
a
better
term.
We're
advising
that
APS
continue.
The
streetscape
that
is
approved
along
the
new
ACC
Frontage.
C
Those
utilities
are
not
within
the
County's
undergrounding
plan
and
and
have
not
been
programmed
for
undergrading.
M
Okay,
that's
sort
of
disappointing
Highland
Street.
Is
there
a
reason
why
we're
not
going
around
the
corner
and
having
Des
improve
That
Sidewalk
along
island?
Is
there
not
enough
room
is?
Are
the
playground
is
being
relocated
there
that
doesn't
allow
for
us
to
widen
the
sidewalk
or
why
can't
we
just
go
ahead
and
widen
that
sidewalk.
C
So
here
are
some
images
of
the
existing
sidewalk
that
the
image
on
the
far
right,
yeah
I'm
sorry
far
left,
is
looking
South
and
that
shows
the
planting
strip
and
some
of
the
existing
utility
poles.
C
It
certainly
shows
how
the
sidewalk
I
completely
agree
with
the
civic
association
present,
that
these
are
not
brand
new
sidewalks
and
and
have
seen
maintenance
over
time,
but
it
does
show
how
those
utility
poles
are
outside
of
the
sidewalk
and
then,
as
you
look
at
the
two
images
in
the
middle
and
on
the
right,
these
are
looking
North
and
it
really
shows
how
these
existing
trees
are.
C
C
We
recommend
those
staying,
but
basically
with
these
three
pictures
you
can
see
that
the
the
one
there
there
are
two
utility
poles
along
the
mpsa
Frontage
that
that
will
remain
it
is,
but
along
the
middle
section
there
there
are
not
any
additional
utility
poles.
So
I
welcome
your
continued
discussion
on
this
issue.
N
All
right,
thank
you.
Just
one
quick
question:
I
just
wanted
to
get
some
information
as
to
why,
along
the
corner
of
South,
Highland
Street
and
continue
Eastward
on
7th
Street
South,
why
the
fencing
is
six
feet
high
instead
of
the
regional
standard
of
four.
D
So
that
fencing
was
raised
as
a
result
of
security
concerns
by
parents
to
school
staff,
I,
don't
know
the
timing
of
exactly
when
that
was
done,
but
that's
been
in
place
for
for
some
time
now
that
fencing
encompasses
the
primary
play
areas
and
the
plan
that
we
have
when
we
relocate
is
to
maintain
that
fencing
along
Highland
and
to
continue
that
fencing
for
a
short
period
down
seventh,
because
we're
relocating
primary
play
areas
at
the
corner
of
of
Highland
and
seven.
So
the
idea
is
to
encompass
and
enclose
the
entire
primary
play
area.
D
L
Regarding
the
streetscaping,
especially
with
the
bus,
stop
the
Metro
Bus
Stop
on
South
Walter
Reed
Drive.
Is
there
a
rendering,
or
could
we
go
back
to
some
apps?
That
I
was
wondering
what
potential
conflict
there
would
be
with
that
bus
stop
and
the
light
and
the
designated
pickup
drop-off?
That
seemed
to
be
right
next
to
it,
because
I
could
easily
see
parents
or
others
dropping
off
or
picking
up
people
using
that
bus
stop.
C
So
this
is
Robert
Gibson
again
to
orient
everyone.
This
is
8th,
Street
South,
the
new
bus
stops
are
proposed
to
be
on
the
north
side
of
that
intersection
and
you're.
Correct
APS
has
proposed
the
pickup
and
drop
off
along
both
the
segments,
North
and
south
of
the
bus
stop
and
you're
you're
concerned
being
that
they
would
that
parents
would
simply
stop
at
the
bus,
stop
and
drop
their
kids
off
off
there.
C
That's
I
think
that
that's
why
we
want
to
ensure
that
the
the
pickup
and
drop-off
areas
are
open
and
accessible
to
parents
and
and
there's
no
specific
design
details
that
we
are
recommending
to
to
further
prevent
dropping
off
at
the
bus.
Stop
all.
L
Right
and
with
that
bus
stop
still,
is
it
going
to
remain
in
that
location
during
construction,
or
is
it
going
to
be
relocated
further
down
south
Walter
Reed.
C
During
construction,
I
think
they're
I
think
that
the
actual
bus
stops
are
already
I,
think
the
existing
bus
stop,
if
my
recollection
is
correct,
is
on
the
south
side
of
8th
Street
going
northbound
and
then
it's
roughly
in
this
same
location
going
Southbound.
Those
bus
stops,
particularly
along
the
aps.
Frontage
will
be
relocated,
so
the
southbound
bus
stop
is
planned
to
be
temporary,
temporarily
relocated
during
construction
and
the
northbound
bus
stop
would
be
relocated
if
and
when
the
construction
activities
for
the
new
island
cause
operational
impacts.
L
If
we
have
time,
I
have
one
more
question
all
right,
maybe
two
so
during
construction,
especially
since
the
construction
for
the
new
ACC
building
is
going
to
go
right
up
to
the
sidewalk
I.
Imagine
that
sidewalk
is
going
to
be
closed.
What
kind
of
guarantees
do
we
have
for
rerouting
of
pedestrians
and
for
and
cyclists
on
South
going
Southbound
on
South
Walter,
Reed
Drive.
C
So
APS
and
the
county
are
continue
to
have
a
lot
of
coordination.
Discussions
about
the
construction
activities
for
South
Walter
Reed,
along
South,
Walter
Reed.
C
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
exploring
and
hopefully
can
get
addressed
is
that
we
actually
want
to
have
APS
execute
some
of
these
complete
Street
improvements
so
that
we
don't
have
two
different
projects
trying
to
operate
in
the
same
exact
space
and
that
will
give
better
coordination
of
these
construction
activities
and
improve
what
we
think
will
will
help
ensure
and
improve
The
Pedestrian
access
and
and
multimodal
access
through
this
area.
C
C
You're
correct.
We
do
believe
that
the
sidewalk
on
the
APS
range
will
need
to
be
closed
to
to
maintain
safe
pedestrian
access
along
that
during
construction.
C
So
we're
looking
at
a
number
of
mitigations
for
pedestrians
on
the
east
side
of
the
street.
It's
a
cross
back
and
forth,
including
temporary
pedestrian,
signalization
mid-block
to
coordinate
with
the
and
that
would
be
south
of
the
project,
and
then
that
would
coordinate
with
The
Pedestrian
signalization
at
seventh
as
a
way
to
have
signalized
Crossings
along
Walter
Reed,
to
support
continued
activities.
C
We
are
establishing
priorities
for
for
users
to
to
within
the
right-of-way,
and
we
have
identified
that
pedestrians
and
cyclists
and
Transit
access
would
be
a
higher
priority
than
on-street
parking
throughout
the
process,
so
that,
as
we
continue
to
look
at
this,
if
it
is
a
question
between
providing
a
southbound
bike
lane
and
on-street
parking,
currently,
our
recommendation
is
that
providing
the
the
safe
continued
cycling
access
is
is
the
higher
priority
than
oil
street
parking.
L
Okay,
that'd
be
good
because
there
are
many
construction
sites
project
doing
around
in
Arlington
right
now
that
I've
encountered
that
did
not
seem
to
accommodate
for
the
loss
of
the
sidewalk
or
bike
lane.
Next
to
it,
and
it's
quite
honestly,
a
pain,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
doesn't
happen
here,
if
at
all
possible.
L
Another
question
so
with
how
would
say
school
buses
that
are
wheelchair,
accessible,
dropping
off
or
picking
up
with
the
Montessori
or
with
the
new
ACC
handle
the
wheelchair
access
from
the
renderings.
It
looked
like
everything
was
at
grade,
so
no
raised
curb
within
the
internal
streets
within
that
Plaza
area.
How
would
that
affect
the
like,
say:
wheelchair
drop
off
or
pickup.
D
D
So,
where
that
does
change
a
bit
is
at
the
Montessori
existing
Montessori
Bus
Loop.
Well,
the
existing
portion
of
the
Montessori
Bus
Loop,
that's
adjacent
to
Highland
here,
so
that
would
remain
on
the
same
grade.
That
would
still
have
the
curbs
in
place,
the
reason
being
and
and
actually
the
curbless
environment
on
the
rest
of
the
site
would
ramp
down
to
the
curbed
environment
adjacent
to
Montessori.
The
reason
we're
doing
that
is
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
do
that
development
without
knowing
that
the
Montessori
building
eventually
is
likely
going
to
go
away.
D
So
we
don't
have
obviously
issues
with
maintaining
that
handicap
drop
off
now
at
existing
mpsa
that'll
continue,
as
is
the
the
curbless
environment
for
the
rest
of
the
of
the
campus.
Just
makes
it
easier
and
there's
there's
no
issues
with
with
Bus
drop
off
for
that
type
of
condition.
L
One
last
question,
then
so
I
note
that
the
existing
Capital
Bike
Share
dock,
that
is
on
the
south
east
corner
of
the
parcel
by
the
existing
ACC
building,
we'll
be
remaining.
Are
there
any
necessary
plans,
but
at
least
areas
that
are
designated
as
potential
future
locations
for
more
Bike
Share
docs
within
the
plaza
area,
not
necessarily
on
South,
Walter,
Reed
or
Highland?.
C
The
Bike
Share
station
is
proposed
to
move
or
or
envisioned
to
move
to
that
intersection
at
South,
8th
Street.
So
this
area
right
here
is
envisioned
to
be
the
future
Bike
Share
station.
Okay,.
C
The
bus
stop
near
the
crossings
and
in
association
with
the
protected
bike
lens.
B
All
right,
let's
talk
about
parking,
make
sure
we're
on
the
same
page
here,
because
I
heard
a
bunch
of
different
numbers
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
what
each
of
the
numbers
were.
I
heard,
360.
I
heard
a
345
and
I
believe
I
at
least
read
326..
E
Yeah,
so
when
we
developed
our
parking
demand,
estimates
our
parking
model,
adjusted
for
not
providing
parking
for
students
and
accommodating
the
auto
storage
for
the
auto
program,
spin
out
a
number
345
spaces
of
demand.
That
is
the
number
that
we
recommended
APS
designed
the
garage
to
at
least
accommodate.
E
So
that's
where
that
number
comes
from
360
is
what
the
design
team
came
back
with.
What
the
garage
can
accommodate
garages
aren't
built
in
integers
of
space.
It's
not
space
at
a
time,
it's
based
on
the
how
many
levels
and
employers
so
they
after
looking
at
table
configurations,
they
found
one
that
could
hold
up
the
360.
So
that's
what
that
number
comes
from.
E
F
E
Set
to
slightly
different
than
a
345.,
the
reason
we
did
that
is
because
we,
like
I,
said
we
had
a
couple
models
using
different
non-auto
mode
share
assumptions.
Those
results
showed
us
that
if
we
are
successful
in
reducing
non-auto
in
the
future
20
years
from
now,
you
know
we
wanted
to.
E
We
wanted
APS
to
have
the
flexibility
to
go
under
that
345
number
if
things
change
and
they
need
more
room
for
bikes
charging
or
more
storage
for
the
car
program,
those
type
of
things,
so
they
can
repurpose
it
and
not
be
tied
to
that
345
number
so
that
that's
that's
the
the
origin
of
those
three
different
numbers.
B
All
right,
I'm
going
to
split
that
all
back
to
you
and
you're
going
to
tell
me
if
I
got
it
right
so
345
is
your
calculated
actual
demand
for
the
site
to
accommodate
all
staff
and
visitor
parking
essentially,
but
not
for
students
and
that's
based
on
your
base,
TDM,
which
is
essentially,
you
know
how
many
people
are
actually
driving
now
scaled
up
to
the
size
of
the
expected
program.
B
Correct,
okay,
great
360
is
how
many
spaces
the
garage
is
almost
is
going
to
have
or
or
can
yeah
all
right.
It
has
enough
space
for
360
spaces
all
right
and
then
326
is
the
number
we're
going
to
put
in
the
use
permit
that
APS
cannot
go
below
so
they're.
C
And
staff's
recommendation,
as
identified
in
the
staff
report,
is
the
345
number
as
the
required
parking
for
the
project.
Okay,.
B
Thank
you
all
right,
so
let
me
see
if
this
is
also
correct
other
than
students.
Your
calculation
is
that
the
garage
can
handle
all
of
the
parking
needs
for
this
campus
other
than
students
solely
in
the
garage,
not
relying
on
on-street
parking.
On-Street
parking
would
just
be
for
the
neighbors
and
potentially
for
students.
B
B
B
Random
clarifying
question:
I,
don't
know
how
we
got
this
far
without
me
asking
before
how
will
private
Vehicles
be
excluded
from
the
plaza?
How
are
you
keeping
it
just
buses.
D
So
signage
will
certainly
be
a
big
part
of
that
solution
and
and
I
I
will
say,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
caveat
there,
because,
in
addition
to
buses,
service
vehicles
will
on
occasion
need
to
enter
the
site
to
access
the
loading
dock
for
the
new
new
facility.
C
I
do
want
to
for
the
record
point
out
that
that
grossland's
model
does
assume
a
a
larger
student
capacity
at
the
mpsa
program
than
it
currently
has,
so
that
the
whole
model
is
is
predicated
on
that
program
going
up
to
750
students,
so
an
additional
250
students
on
the
campus
for
that,
so
it's
it's.
The
existing
garage
is,
is
a
little
bit
future
approved
to
support
that
growth.
B
Great,
thank
you.
That's
super
useful,
that's
actually
the
next
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about
is
number
of
students
and
the
use
permit,
and
what
exactly
is
in
the
use
permit
from
a
campus
capacity
standpoint,
so
I
looked
through
my
board
report
at
the
conditions
and
I
don't
see
conditions
about
the
number
of
like
student
capacity,
so
is
that
in
fact
enforced
via
use
permit
and
it's
just
in
some
other
part
of
the
use,
permit,
not
the
conditions
or
maybe
it's
a
condition
that
I
looked
past.
Can
somebody
clarify
that
it's.
C
B
All
right,
but
it
is
this
design
capacity
of
1619
students
for
the
career
center
and
design
capacity
of
488
students
for
mpsa
is
that
that
is
correct.
Okay,
and
so
is
my
understanding
correct
that
if
APS
wanted
to
put
more
than
those
two
numbers
together
of
students
on
this
campus,
they
would
need
a
new
use.
Permit.
B
Great,
so
if,
as
many
of
my
neighbors
are
afraid
of
APs
decided,
they
wanted
to
not
tear
down
the
existing
Montessori
building
and
instead
put
an
additional
School
into
that
building,
they
could
not
do
so
do
so
without
a
use
permit
Amendment
if
it
would
result
in
more
students
that
are
outlined
in
these
two
numbers.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
I
have
other
Commissioners
come
up
with
questions
in
this
long
line
of
my
questions,
commissioner
Terry,
because
we
haven't
heard
from
you
yet.
C
It's
it's
principally
that
the
trees
are
that's
where
we
would
see
the
widening,
have
the
most
impact
and
then
to
deliver
the
commensurate
improvements,
the
six
feet,
clear,
sidewalk
and
five
foot
planting
strip
with
the
remaining.
C
O
O
Okay,
so
I
thought
what
I'd
heard
you
said
is
the
the
trees
on
the
playground
side
and
then
the
utility
poles
on
the
street
side
is
what's
keeping
that
sidewalk,
where
it
is
and
unable
to
be
addressed.
C
Right
we,
we
wouldn't
recommend
widening
the
sidewalk
in
towards
the
curb
because
of
the
existing
utility
poles,
and
we
wouldn't
necessarily
recommend
widening
the
sidewalk
towards
the
school
because
of
those
trees
and
the
outdoor
play.
Programs.
O
C
Would
allow
for
a
wider
sidewalk
at
the
back
of
curb,
but
you
would
either
have
to
remove
the
trees
or
move
the
play
fences
to
achieve
the
sidewalk
and
the
planting
strip.
That
is
the
long-term
vision
for
the
the
campuses,
typical
sidewalk
and
streetscape.
O
M
I,
don't
have
a
question,
but
do
you
have
a
comment,
or
are
we
doing
discussion
now?
I
think
I
think
we're
into
discussion
yep.
Okay,
this
goes
to
9th
Street
and
you
have
three
options
there.
I
would
strongly
urge
that
we
only
consider
the
option
that
has
the
protected
bike
Lanes.
This
is
even
more
so
than
around
the
corner
on
George
Mason,
no,
not
Church,
Basin,
it's
yeah
more
so
than
there.
This
is
the
the
bike
facility
for
Columbia
Pike.
M
It
isn't
going
to
work
on
Columbia
Pike.
We
that's
why
we
need
these.
This
bike
Highway
along
9th
Street.
This
is
the
opportunity
to
do
it
right.
If
we
don't
do
it
right,
it'll
be
this
way
for
like
30
years.
M
So
let's
make
it
to
two
two
protected
bike:
Lanes
on.
What's
going
to
be
a
busy
street,
where
there's
pick
up
and
drop
off,
it's
really
important
that
it
be
done
right
now
done.
P
Yeah
I
wanted
to
say
the
same
thing.
I
appreciate
the
staff
when
talking
about
South
Walter
Reed,
how
they
stated
that
they
were
really
focused
on
building
a
facility
that
was
safe
for
all
ages
and
abilities
and
only
option
two
meets
that
criteria
on
on
9th
Street.
P
So
I
hope
that's
what
we
will
push
for
and
I
think
if
we
take
a
look
at
a
different
neighborhood,
Pentagon
City,
National,
Landing,
15th,
Street,
Southeast,
that's
a
great
facility
and
that's
what
we
should
be
striving
for
with
the
protected
bike
lanes
and
that
intersection
down
there.
That's
that's
great,
but
I'd
like
to
take
it
a
step
further
and
talk
about
what's
happening
on
Columbia
Pike,
which
is
pretty
close
by
given,
given
all
of
these
concerns
about
more
people
coming
into
this
facility.
P
I
think
it's
really
important
for
the
County
Board
to
deliver
on
that
promise
of
the
six-minute
headways
for
buses
on
Columbia
Pike
to
facilitate
people
coming
to
this
to
this
educational
facility.
Thank
you.
B
I
will
also
point
out
that
the
removal
of
parking
on
the
south
side
of
9th
Street
has
a
second
and
additional
benefit,
which
is
that
the
parking
meters
that
currently
block
that
four
or
four
and
a
half
foot
wide
sidewalk
would
no
longer
be
needed
there
and
the
parking
signs
that
currently
block
that
four
foot
wide
sidewalk
on
the
South
Side
would
also
not
be
needed.
So
Not
only
would
it
make
the
bike
facility
better
in
both
directions.
It
would
greatly
improve
walking
for
those
on
the
south
side
of
9th
Street.
B
So
I
too,
am
in
support
of
that
other
commissioner
comments
or
questions
at
the
time.
Commissioner
Theo.
L
Yes,
with
the
concerns
of
students
and
perhaps
staff
faculty
parking
in
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
To
my
knowledge,
the
only
closest
commercial
garage
would
be
the
Penrose
Square
garage.
That's
underneath
the
Giant
to
any
of
my
fellow
Commissioners
knowledge.
Does
that
offer
monthly
parking
to
non-residents,
or
is
it
just
daily
hourly.
P
It
seems
a
little
bit
unclear,
but
we
might
have
some
parking
on
the
the
the
Bank
building
that
was
purchased
next
to
the
Audi
dealership.
I,
don't
know
what
the
time
frame
on
that
potential
Library
facility
is,
but
currently
I
think
it's
just
going
to
be
a
parking
lot
once
that
building
is
raised.
B
C
Us
thank
you
for
raising
raising
that
the
county
does
have
nrcip
relocating
the
Columbia
Pike
Branch
library.
C
To
that
location,
we
made
the
the
cap
the
purchase
of
the
property,
to
support
that
the
County
Board
has
also
directed
I
believe
looking
at
that
site
in
a
manner
that
it's
not
just
a
library
and
may
be
supportive
of
housing
options,
but
until
those
until
those
decisions
are
made
by
the
County
Board
staff,
this
summer
is
going
to
raise
the
building
to
ensure
that
it
doesn't
become
a
blighted
property
or
a
safety
issue.
C
And
in
doing
so
we
will
convert
that
space
to
parking
in
and
and
the
idea
is
that,
while
PS
has
construction
going
on
at
this
campus,
that
parking
can
be
used
in
supportive
construction
worker
parking
or
additional
teacher
parking,
as
APS
feels
as
most
appropriate
foreign.
B
Great
thank
you,
commissioner.
Locker.
Q
I
just
had
two
I
just
wanted
to
also
support
the
protective
bike
Lanes
on
9th
Street
I.
Think
that
that
we
should
be
doing
that
on
and
just
get
it
right.
The
first
time
and
also
I
was
a
little
surprised
to
see.
There
was
only
six
EV
parking
spots
in
a
garage
that
will
have
a
minimum
of
326
three
I'm.
Sorry
360.,
that
seems
seems
kind
of
low
I
was
wondering
what
how
you
got
to
that
number.
D
Yeah
the
challenge
for
APS
with
regard
to
EB
parking
is
we
don't
really
have
a
way
to
charge
our
our
staff
for
that
type
of
amenity?
D
Q
I
would
just
encourage
that
even
if
you
can
put
in
the
conduits-
and
maybe
you
know
future
proof
it-
you
might
not
have
to
have
have
it
there.
You
know
opening,
but
just
thinking
about
routing
and
opportunities
of
the
future.
B
Yeah
already
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
move
the
county
manager's
motion,
so
that
just
that
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
I
expect
to
make
at
least
one
amendment
to
it,
but
it's
like
get
the
motion
process
going.
Actually
you
know
what
nope
I
want
to
talk
about.
One
more
thing:
first,
that
Highland
Street
sidewalk
is
the
only
thing
that's
still
not
sitting
nice
with
me.
B
I
am
certainly
not
interested
in
damaging
the
trees
that
exist
behind
the
existing
sidewalk
or
endangering
them,
especially
when
we
know
that
we
should
be
able
to
get
an
actual
great
facility.
Soon
is
probably
not
the
right
word
right.
This
construction
is
going
through
2017,
so
like
at
the
earliest.
We're
talking
like
2018.
B
to
be
able
to
get
like
a
really
good
sidewalk
facility
there.
On
the
other
hand,
I
do
think
it's
gonna,
there's
gonna
be
additional
traffic
pedestrian
traffic
on
that
sidewalk,
because
we're
going
to
end
up
closing
the
sidewalk
on
Walter
Reed
during
construction
of
the
ACC
site,
so
I
would
hope
that
staff
could
at
least
look
at
Paving
the
utility
strip
on
that
stretch
of
Highland
Street.
Just
to
make
the
interim
facility
that
much
better
you
know
it's
not
going
to
be
additional
clear
width.
B
There
is
the
existing
utility
poles.
There
are
existing
parking
signs,
but
it
does
give
just
that
much
more
space
for
people
to
pass
each
other.
When
there's
not
a
poll
or
something
like
that,
I
don't
know
Mr
Gibson.
If
you
have
any
response
to
that
sort
of
suggestion,.
C
I
think
it's
something
that
we
can.
We
can
work
with
APS
and
we
can
consider
based
on
a
motion
by
the
commission,
absolutely.
B
All
right
great,
thank
you
for
that
any
other
commissioner
Hussein.
H
No
I
just
had
a
question.
If
you
don't
mind
regarding
that
sidewalk
in
the
utility
pole,
I,
don't
I
think
we
may
have
mentioned
it
before,
but
I
may
not
have
fully
understood.
Why
can't
we
put
the
utilities?
Underground?
H
Q
C
Condition
is
good,
you're
correct.
There
are
polls
further
down
the
street
for
the
full
length
of
Highland
and
the
full
length
of
seven.
The
project
does
not
propose
undergrounding
either
of
those
sets
of
utility
poles
and
it
does
propose
undergrounding
any
building
connections
on
any
new
utility
services,
but
those
utilities
are
are
outside
of
the
County's
long-term
undergrounding
corridors
and
the
we.
We
use
that
document
as
our
principal
way
to
program
funding
for
utility
Underground.
B
I
will
add
the
bit
that
Mr
Gibson
did
not,
which
is
that
undergradling
utilities
is
staggeringly
expensive
and
adds
a
lot
of
complexity
to
a
project
from
a
timing
standpoint,
because
none
of
our
Utility
Partners
can
keep
to
a
schedule.
Effort
on
anything,
which
is
why
Columbia
Pike's
been
under
construction
for
10
years
and
will
for
another.
Several.
P
I
mean
regarding
those
sea
trees
we're
talking
about
a
facility
here
where
what
is
that
1690
plus
488,
potentially
not
just
the
students,
not
counting
staff
and
I,
mean
it's
a
shame
to
cut
down
any
trees
but
honestly
to
provide
proper
facilities
for
that
many
people,
we're
not
talking
about
a
single
family
home
that
you
know
five
people
might
be
visiting
we're
talking
about
potentially
like
2500
people.
P
I
would
be
fine
with
cutting
those
two
trees
that
trees
down
to
accommodate
people
being
able
to
move
around
and
hopefully
pick
our
battles
Elsewhere
for
tree
preservation,
especially
with
all
the
Wayne
wine
Lane
widenings
happening
all
around
us
and
thousands
of
Acres
of
trees
being
cut
down.
So
that's
my
comment.
B
All
right,
then,
to
kick
things
off.
I
will
move
that
the
Transportation
Commission
recommend
that
the
County
Board.
B
Furthermore,
I
move
that
the
Transportation
Commission
finds
that
the
proposed
vacation
of
a
portion
of
8th,
Street
South,
originally
Smith
Avenue,
located
between
South
Highland
Street
and
South
Walter
re
Drive
within
the
subdivision,
known
as
Arlington
Plateau,
is
consistent
with
the
master
Transportation
plan.
Is
there
a
second.
B
Yeah,
oh
thank
you,
so
that
is
basically
the
county
boards.
The
county
manager's
recommendation.
Is
there
any
discussion
of
that
or
any
move
to
amend
at
motion.
L
Question
is
this,
where
we
would
add
in
the
option
two
for
Ninth.
R
B
I
didn't
want
to
jump
directly
because
it's
always
weird
when
I
move
to
amend
my
own
motion,
so
I
always
like
to
you
know
let
it
sit
a
little
bit
there
first,
but
also,
if
somebody
wanted
to
you
know,
add
to
the
motion
something
about
the
Highland
Street
sidewalk.
This
would
also
be
an
appropriate
time
for
motion
language
to
that
effect,
as
well.
M
Yeah
I
moved
to
amend
the
motion
to
recommend
that
the
on
the
the
portion
of
Highland
Street
not
planned
to
have
sidewalk
improvements
and
move
ahead,
explore
Paving
the
strip
between
back
the
curb
and
the
sidewalk,
as
as
an
interim
step
for
totally
rebuilding
the
sidewalk
Second
Amendment
I.
If
you
vote
on
that
before
I
make
a
second
amendment.
B
B
M
M
It's
basically
too,
the
recommendation
is
to
pave
the
strip
between
the
back
of
the
curb
and
the
sidewalk,
where
the
utility
poles
are
to
give
a
little
extra
width,
as
was
earlier
discussed
by
chair
Slatt.
When
we
had
that
larger
discussion
on
the
portion
of
Highland
Street
that
is
not
being
improved
and
the
community
which
the
community
is
recommending
to
be
improved.
B
Moved
and
seconded
I'm
supportive
of
the
motion,
any
other
discussion
of
the
motion.
All
right,
then
I
will
call
a
vote
on
this
motion
to
amend.
So
what
we're
rooting
on
now
is
just
adding
to
the
motion
that
is
already
on
the
floor.
Commissioner,
and
tell
me,
is
that
a
portion,
the
portion
of
Highland
Street
not
currently
planned
to
have
sidewalk
improvements
that
they
explore.
Paving
the
landscape
strip
between
the
curb
and
the
sidewalk
is
an
interim
step
until
a
full
streetscape
can
be
achieved
when
the
mpsa
building
is
removed.
M
Will
then
Mr
chair
of
a
second
amendment?
Okay,
go
ahead?
Could
we
call
up
the
slide
that
has
the
three
options
for
Ninth
Street
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
the
right
one.
M
M
What
I
was
yeah
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
got
the
right.
One
I
move
that
the
transportation
I
move
to
amend
the
main
motion
to
state
that
the
Transportation
Commission
strongly
recommends
only
considering
option
two
for
the
configuration
of
9th
Street
South,
which
has
two
has
protected
bike
Lanes
in
both
directions.
B
All
right,
then,
we'll
vote
on
that.
So
this
is
voting
on
amending
the
main
motion
to
add
the
language
about
9th
Street
option.
Two
commissioner
Coleman
aye,
commissioner
Hussein
aye,
commissioner
Nolan
aye
commissioner
land
tell
me
aye,
commissioner
Locker
commissioner
Ludlow
aye,
commissioner
moradovic
aye,
commissioner
Gary
aye,
commissioner
Terry
aye,
commissioner
Theo.
L
B
And
I
will
also
vote
I
that
passes
unanimously.
Is
there
any
more
discussion
of
the
motion
as
amended
or
any
further
amendments?
People
would
wish
to
make
seeing
none.
We
will
call
a
vote
on
the
main
motion
as
amended,
so
that
is
the
county
manager's
recommendation,
including
the
vacation
of
8th
Street,
which
apparently
runs
smack
through
the
existing
building
and
then
the
two
amendments
that
we
have
just
voted
on:
the
one
about
Paving,
the
landscape
strip
on
Highland
and
the
one
about
recommending
option
two
with
the
pbls
in
both
directions
for
9th
Street.
N
N
B
And
I
too
will
vote
I
that
also
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
to
staff,
mostly
online,
but
also
Mr
Black,
hiding
out
here
in
person.
B
I
too,
have
been
involved
with
this
project
since
the
career
center
working
group
in
2017.,
it's
nice
to
see
it
moving
forward,
I'm
also
excited
to
see
the
Walter
Reed
Drive
complete
streets
project,
moving
forward,
which
first
was
proposed
in
2012
when
I
was
president
of
the
Penrose
civic
association,
so
lots
of
long
stuck
things
finally
moving
along
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
ultimately
great.
So
thanks
to
everyone
whose
work
was
involved
here
and
I
think
we
will
move
straight
into
the
next
item.
Miss
obicoya.
A
S
Good
evening
my
name
is
Robert
Vaughn
I'm,
with
dwet
properties
and
I'm
here
today
to
talk
about
our
proposed
application
for
Crystal
Towers
3.
in
terms
of
the
material
that
we'll
be
covering
tonight
will
Orient
the
site.
Talk
about
the
proposed
program,
talk
about
both
the
existing
and
proposed
parking
discuss,
site
circulation,
the
existing
and
proposed
streetscapes
and
then
grow
Slade,
we'll
cover
the
transportation
overview,
the
bicycle
facilities
and
touch
on
the
mmta.
G
S
S
The
conceptual
ground
floor
plan
you
can
see
here
has
the
mixed-use
multi-family
building
cited
just
north
of
the
existing
Crystal
Flats
building
on
an
existing
surface
parking
lot.
The
driveway
is
maintained
in
essentially.
The
same
location,
however,
has
been
fully
renovated,
with
enhanced
Paving
and
New
Street
trees,
sidewalks
and
plantings.
However,
it
does
replicate
largely
the
circulation
that
exists
today
and
moving
farther
north.
You
can
see
the
single
story:
retail
Building,
located
in
additional
surface
parking
lot
adjacent
to
the
intersection
of
15th
and
E
Street.
S
Here
you
can
see
an
existing
site
aerial
with
the
two
buildings
generally
outlined
in
red
and
here's
the
proposed
site,
rendering
where
you
can
see
the
mixed-use
multi-family
building
cited
on
the
existing
surface
parking
lot
north
of
Crystal
flats
and
then
the
single
story.
Retail
building
decided
in
the
existing
surface
parking
lot
adjacent
to
the
intersection
of
15th.
The
needs.
S
Here
you
can
see
a
view
of
the
proposed
multi-family
building.
The
driveway
is
again
in
the
same
location,
however,
the
access
and
sidewalk
has
been
widened
and
the
paving
has
been
enhanced
from
an
architectural
perspective.
The
ground
floor
is
purposely
very
transparent,
bringing
activation
out
onto
each
Street
and
separated
from
the
residential
above
through
the
architectural
brow
feature.
S
One
item
I
specifically
wanted
to
highlight,
because
there
was
a
fair
amount
of
discussion
about
this
and
changes
through
the
sprc
process
is
the
location
of
the
South
sidewalk
in
between
the
North
side
of
Crystal
flats
and
the
south
side
of
our
proposed
building.
We
have
now
modified
this
to
provide
through
block
access
by
ramping,
the
sidewalk
from
the
elevation
of
the
Eid
street
from
from
the
elevation
of
each
Street
up
to
the
elevation
of
the
driveway
extension
on
the
interior
of
the
site,.
S
Looking
at
utilization
over
the
past
several
years.
One
of
the
things
that
we
noticed
is
that
a
significant
number
of
spaces
are
not
currently
being
rented
to
Residents
and
that
the
utilization
is
kind
of
hovered
somewhere
between
0.75
and
0.8,
and
this
allowed
us
the
opportunity
to
propose
a
development
plan
while
still
being
able
to
provide
parking
based
on
the
the
in
place
demand.
S
So
the
proposed
site
plan
removes
157
surface
parking
spaces,
which
leaves
737
parking
spaces
available
to
serve
the
existing
residents.
Again,
our
goal
at
the
outset
of
the
development
was
to
ensure
that
each
of
the
residents
that
have
a
has
a
parking
space
today
will
have
a
parking
space
in
the
future.
Maybe
just
not
the
specific
parking
space
that
they
have.
We
have
also
worked
to
allocate
30
surface
spaces
to
support
the
proposed
retail
looking
just
at
the
residential.
S
The
proposed
building
will
add
42
spaces
as
an
extension
to
the
existing
single
level
below
grade
garage.
Those
are
located
right
here.
Those
42
spaces
will
be
connected
to
and
accessed
from
the
existing
below
grade
parking
garage.
The
plan
also
provides
for
10
part
visitor
parking
spaces
consistent
with
County
policy
in
terms
of
pickup
and
drop
off,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
we
did
have
a
goal
at
the
outset
of
the
development
to
replicate
the
same
type
of
circulation
and
based
on
our
early
conversations
with
residents.
S
We
received
strong
recommendations
to
move
in
that
direction
and
one
of
the
benefits
of
creating
this
turnaround
providing
access
back
out
onto
Eid
street
is
the
ability
to
accommodate
pickup
and
drop
off.
So
here
we
have
the
ability
to
accommodate
up
to
eight
pickup
drop-off
spaces.
Although
I
think
in
actual
practice
we
will
be
able
to
okay
to
accommodate
much
more
than
that,
and
this
pickup
drop
off
would
serve
both
the
proposed
209
units,
as
well
as
the
existing
912
units.
S
S
Here
you
can
see
the
existing
parking
loading
circulation,
the
one
the
couple
of
things
that
I
want
to
highlight
are
the
existing
garage
entry
comes
through
the
surface
parking
lot
off
of
each
Street,
and
the
existing
garage
has
two
exit
points,
one
on
the
south
side
and
one
on
the
north
side.
S
The
proposed
plan
largely
maintains
the
same
circulation
through
the
site.
The
most
significant
change
is.
It
does
consolidate
that
one
entry
and
two
exit
points
into
a
single
entry
exit
point
in
the
south
tower.
That
would
correspond
with
a
full
renovation
and
enhancement
of
both
the
security
access
into
that
parking
garage
along
with
re-striping
the
existing
garage
to
accommodate
the
new
two-way
traffic.
S
An
additional
benefit
that
this
project
is
providing
is
a
modernization
and
enhancement
of
the
streetscape,
all
the
way
from
the
corner
of
15th
and
East
down
to
the
streetscape
that
was
installed
with
Crystal
Flats,
the
existing
streetscape.
The
sidewalk
ranges
between
four
and
a
half
feet
up
to
about
eight
feet
and
in
our
current
proposal
we
have
a
modern
streetscape
that
would
correspond
to
the
rest
of
the
streetscape
further
north
along
Eid
Street.
G
T
Thanks
Robert,
my
name
is
we
wanted
to
just
cover
a
few
of
the
other
transportation
elements.
So,
as
you
can
see
here,
we
just
wanted
to
give
a
quick
Transportation
overview.
As
Robert
mentioned,
the
site
is
in
Crystal
City
and
a
very
well
connected
multimodal
area.
It's
located
about
0.1
miles
from
the
Crystal
City
metro
station
and
about
0.4
miles
from
the
Crystal
City
VRE
station.
T
There's
about
19
bus
stops
within
a
quarter
mile
of
the
site,
as
I
mentioned
very
well
connected
pedestrian
and
bike
Network
nearby,
as
Robert
mentioned,
we're
looking
at
the
0.7
parking
ratio
Blended
across
the
existing
and
the
proposed
units
we'll
cover
a
little
bit
more
on
the
next
slide.
But
we've
got
86
long-term
bike
spaces,
an
11,
short-term
bike
spaces
and
then
we'll
include
the
typical
elements
of
a
transportation
management
plan.
I'm.
B
T
So
this
this
figure
shows
some
of
the
bike
parking
proposed
for
the
site,
as
I
mentioned,
86
long-term
bike
spaces,
including
84,
residential
and
two
long-term
retail
spaces.
We
did
want
to
point
out
here
that
they,
those
are
proposed
in
a
ground
level,
bike
room.
So
that's
coming
just
off
of
The
Pedestrian
alley.
T
T
Briefly,
we
did
we
scoped
it
with
the
county.
We
looked
at
nine
intersections
surrounding
the
site.
There
were
two
intersections
where
we
did
find
the
need
for
mitigations,
which
were
both
just
signal,
timing,
adjustments
and
then,
as
we've
covered.
Any
any
other
impacts
would
be
mitigated
by
some
of
the
enhanced
site
design.
T
We've
we've
already
covered
that
we
received
during
staff
review
and
sbrc
process
and
then
the
implementation
of
the
TMP
which
we'll
cover
on
the
next
slide,
and
that
just
this
includes
all
the
typical
elements
of
the
TMP,
including
participation,
funding
facilities,
improvements,
promotions
and
performance
monitoring.
U
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Joanne
Gabor
I'm
with
Arlington
County,
Des
and
I'm
here
to
present
the
staff
presentation
for
Crystal
Towers
3..
This
is
a
major
site
plan.
Amendment
I
have
a
few
slides
and
I'm
going
to
try
and
go
quickly
since
the
applicant
was
very
thorough.
We
do
have
a
residential
building
and
our
retail
building
there
is
going
to
be
a
0.7
parking
ratio
Blended
across
the
existing
and
proposed,
and
a
one
space
per
936
square
feet
of
GFA
for
the
retail
use
and
that's
the
30
spaces
that
was
mentioned.
U
This
is
located
in
Crystal
City.
It
is
within
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan
area.
So
we
look
to
that
sector
plan
for
guidance.
Among
other
policy
guidelines
eat
street
is
one
of
the
streets.
That
is
the
main
Frontage.
This
street
will
essentially
remain
the
same
with
three
travel
Lanes.
The
main
enhancement
is
going
to
be
the
buffered
bicycle
facility.
Currently,
today
it
is
striped
with
Flexi
posts
and
they're
going
to
complete
the
enhancements
with
the
basically
continuous
median
as
you've
seen
in
front
of
the
Met
Park
project.
U
U
As
has
been
discussed,
there
is
a
new
loading
spaces.
I
think
that
is
one
thing
that
maybe
was
not
mentioned.
They
do
have
the
are
within
the
50
maximum
compact
spaces
for
the
new
spaces.
This
is
not
the
existing
spaces.
The
existing
spaces
will
remain
as
is,
and
again
they
have
86
class
1
bicycle
spaces
and
11
class
3
bicycle
spaces
around
the
site.
U
Other
features
just
for
everyone's
awareness
is,
they
will
be
going
for
the
league
gold,
certification
and
participating
in
the
Green
Building
incentive
program.
There
will
be
a
1.4
million
dollar
ahaf
contribution,
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
offside,
Transportation
improvements,
425
000
for
off-site
public,
open
space
planning
and
our
improvements
and
a
public
access,
easement
for
expansion
and
Improvement
at
15th
and
South
Eid
Street,
and
that's
identifies
open
space
number
18
within
the
Crystal
City
sector
plan.
U
This
had
a
public
Engagement
online
in
November
we
had
two
sprc
meetings
and
currently
we
were
at
the
commission
meetings
and
this
is
anticipated
to
go
to
the
County
Board
in
June.
Currently
we
are
a
Transportation
Commission.
Next
Thursday
is
a
double
header,
with
Planning
Commission,
Housing
Commission
on
the
same
night,
June
1
and
then
June
10
for
the
County
Board
staff
does
support
this
project
and
we
recommend
approval
with
the
attached
conditions
and
I
am
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
have.
B
M
Yeah,
this
is
really
going
to
be
for
staff.
It's
not
going
to
be
for
the
applicant,
because
I
think
it's
a
great
project,
I've
sat
through
all
the
sbrcs
for
this
and
it
was
tremendously
improved.
M
You
I
think
you
did
a
great
job
in
listening
to
us
and
making
some
pretty
significant
improvements
on
circulation
and
the
like.
What
we
want
came
up
with
sbrc
and
it's
also
the
community
has
been
asking
a
mid-block
Crossing.
This
is
a
really
big
block.
M
It's
effectively
we're
missing
two
cross
streets,
you
know
it,
so
it's
really
goes
you're
going
three
blocks
without
having
any
Crossings
I
think
the
neighborhood
is
absolutely
right.
In
wanting
to
have
a
mid,
mid
block
Crossing,
we
do
have
a
driveway
coming
out.
That
would
be
a
logical
place
for
one.
It
probably
should
be
signalized,
but
you
know,
maybe
a
hawk
signal
could
work
there
too,
or
something
that
would
be
triggered
just
by
a
car
coming
out
or
perhaps
even
you
know,
having
a
big
button
as
much
as
I
ate
those.
M
But
this
is
a
really
long
block
and
people
are
going
to
be
walking
and
people
are
going
to
want
to
cross
the
street.
It's
a
wide
Street.
M
You
know,
Nash
Street
is
not
an
easy
one
to
cross,
and
this
is
a
long
walk
to
go.
So
I
would
very
much
like
to
understand
why
staff
is
not
recommending
a
mid-block
crossing
here
and
is
there?
Are
there
technical
reasons
why
it
can't
happen.
U
So
this
is
a
graphic
that
shows
everyone
just
what
the
existing
conditions
look
like.
I've
highlighted,
excuse
the
maybe
Elementary
level
Graphics,
but
the
red
shapes
do
integrate
the
existing
entrance
and
exit
points
for
various
buildings,
and
then
I've
shown
the
same
thing
with
the
proposed
conditions.
So
the
big
difference
between
the
proposed
and
existing
just
to
point
everyone
out
is
this.
Driveway
entrance
essentially
is
removed.
Everything
on
the
east
side.
I'm
sorry
I
should
have
said
this.
First
North
is
a
page
right
on
here.
So
the
east
side.
We
have
the
Marriott.
U
Now
we
have
another
building
over
here
and
then
we
have
the
crystal
Towers
on
the
west
side.
So
in
the
proposed
conditions,
I
have
provide
some
Dimensions
because
I
think
it's
helpful
scale
sometimes
is
hard
to
hard
to
judge
on
these
little
screens
for
everyone.
So
this
block
is
about
830
feet.
As
a
commissioner,
lantel
me
mentioned,
we
have
15th
Street,
18th
Street,
so
obviously
16th
and
17th
Street
are
missing.
U
One
of
the
big
challenges
we
have
is
the
entrance
points
for
the
Marriott.
These
are
rather
large
driveway
entrances
and
they
do
allow
access
to
Northbound
and
southbound
Lanes.
Well,
practically
speaking,
the
traffic
slow
tries
to
come
in
the
southbound
and
leave
the
Northbound
folks
can
actually
enter
and
exit
from
both
of
these
points.
And
then,
when
we
look
on
the
east
side,
we
have
the
new
entry
exit
for
the
crystal
towers,
and
then
we
also
have
the
existing.
That
is
an
entry
and
exit
as
well.
U
So
when
I
look
at
this,
the
concern
we
have
from
a
staff
perspective
is
the
fact
that
these
entrances
are
so
close
together
on
the
east
side
and
they're,
also
very
close
together,
quite
frankly
on
the
west
side
and
having
entry
and
exit
points
and
knowing
that
Vehicles
most
likely
will
use
this
Center
turn
lane
to
be
able
to
turn
into
or
to
turn
out
of
this
area.
You
know
just
to
sit
if
they
need
to
so
they
can
across
one
lane
of
traffic
before
they
enter
both
the
other
lane
of
traffic.
U
Our
big
concern
is
having
a
pedestrian
Crossing.
This
location
is
right
where
Vehicles
may
be
sitting
so
you're
introducing
additional
conflict
points,
and
that's
not
something
we
feel
at
this
time
makes
sense
and
is
not
something
we
really
want
to
encourage.
The
other
couple
things
I
will
point
out
is
I'm
just
looking
at
this
site
overall
again,
Eid
street
is
here
on
the
bottom.
U
U
Of
course,
anyone
from
the
public
they're
most
likely
going
to
come
around
if
I'm,
starting
at
this
point
over
to
18th
and
over
to
Eads,
unless
you're
going
to
travel
through
the
parking
lots,
which
again
is
not
something
that
from
a
staff
perspective,
is
something
we
encourage,
because
it
is
not
public
property
and
it's
not
a
public
passageway.
U
M
Thank
you
for
the
right
for
that
that
explanation,
I'm
personally
still
not
particularly
convinced
that
that
that,
if
anything,
it
sounds
we're
continuing
to
accommodate
vehicles
at
the
expense
of
our
pedestrians
and
you're
right
about
the
conflict.
Points
I
actually
I
do
see
that,
but
I
think
it
requires
a
rethinking
of
that
whole
block
of
North
Nash,
Street,
I'm,
sorry
of
of
South
Nash
Street,
so
that
we
don't
have
as
many
conflicts
eat,
eat,
Street,
Eat
Street.
Thank
you
my
mistake.
M
M
We
have,
you
know,
maybe
there's
an
opportunity
there
with
that
turn
lane
in
the
middle
that
we
could
make
it
make
it
a
turn
lane
and
have
a
full
signal
right
there.
You
have
two
driveways
right
across
from
each
other,
maybe
working
with
the
Marriott.
You
can
find
a
way
to
make
it
just
in
and
out.
You
know
rationalize
that
too.
It
would
take
work.
I
agree.
It
may
not
happen
immediately,
but
I
would
strongly
urge
rethinking
eat
Street.
Here
it's
becoming
a
very
different
street
than
it
was
conceptually
years
ago.
M
U
Agree
with
commissioner,
tell
me:
I
think
this
is
something
that
is
something
the
county
itself
needs
to
look
at
from
a
holistic
standpoint,
because
when
I
look
at
you
know
just
having
the
50
feet
between
these
driveways
and
then
I
look
up
here.
I
only
have
115
feet
so
it
just
it
does
become
looking
at
not
the
crystal
Towers
property
itself,
as
the
impetus
for
that
I
think
I
agree.
It
is
looking
at
that
entire
Corridor,
especially
with
met
park,
being
completed.
It's
going
to
be
opening.
U
U
Let's
say
we
moved
it
to
the
North
and
put
it
somewhere
here.
Then
we
have
parking
spots
on
the
east
and
west
side
that
are
removed
and
not
that
that
necessarily
is
a
bad
thing,
but
it's
just
something
I
think
we
would
need
to.
We
would
want
staff
to
be
looking
at
that
holistically
in
relation
to
what's
happening
to
the
north
and
south
of
this
area,
to
make
sure
that
what
is
proposed
is
the
most
appropriate
for
Eid
Street
in
general.
B
I
have
a
couple
thoughts
on
this
exact
same
thing:
did
you
look
at
potentially
putting
a
mid-block
north
of
the
just
north
of
these
driveway
entrances?
You
know
north
of
the
northernmost
Crystal
towers
entrance
rather
than
between
the
gate.
The
Gateway
driveways.
U
It's
still,
you
know
we're
still
concerned
about
the
proximity
of
these
two
driveways,
which
is
also
why
this
is
in
a
location
that
we
are
supportive
of
and
then,
as
you
start
to
think
you
know,
north
of
this
drive,
will
you
become
so
close
to
the
intersection
that
you're,
almost
not
mid-block,.
B
Gotcha
yeah
and
then
I
mean
my
other
thought
is
if
the
biggest
issue
is
that
these
driveways
are,
you
know
not
right
and
right
out
that
you
can
be
going
multiple
directions?
You
know
that's
a
solvable
problem,
there's
a
whole
turn
Lane's
worth
of
space
for
a
median.
This
whole
block
could
be
come
right
in
right
out
with
some.
You
know
concrete
down
the
middle,
but
yeah
I
just
feel
like
this
is
three
football
fields
that
somebody's
got
to
go
and
the
ultimately
reality
is
people.
B
Are
people
are
jaywalking
across
the
street
today,
human
nature
is
you
live
in
that
apartment
building
and
you
want
to
go
into
the
Crystal
City
Underground
and
go
under
110
in
that
tunnel,
you're
just
going
to
walk
across
whether
we
put
a
sidewalk
crosswalk
there
or
not.
What
the
crosswalk
does
is
formalizes
that
conflict
point
so
everybody's
a
little
bit.
You
know
understanding
where
it's
going
to
be,
rather
than
it
being
whatever
place.
B
That
person
happens
to
pick
so
I'm
I
understand
where
staff
is
coming
from,
but
I'm
not
sure
I
agree
on
on
our
current
outcome.
Here,
commissioner,
moravic
yeah.
P
Along
the
same
point
of
people
already
jaywalking
and
they're,
going
to
jaywalk
even
more
because
you're
going
to
have
this
hotel
and
right
across
the
street
is
going
to
be
retail
and
if
I'm
sitting
in
a
hotel
board
and
I
see
something
across
the
street
like
just
something
to
get
out
of
my
hotel
room
like
I'm
gonna,
walk
across
that
street,
and
now
they
have
an
option
of
walking
down
the
15th
and
Crossing
or
what
is
the
18th
on
the
on
the
other
side
and
I?
P
Think
the
vast
majority
of
people
are
just
gonna,
walk
right
across
that
Street
and
then
in
terms
of
the
the
lack
of
permit
the
absence
of
permeability
in
the
in
the
Crystal
City
Tower
site
itself.
Chairman
slide
already
mentioned
the
the
Crystal
City
Underground
on
the
other
side.
So
there
is
that
permeability
and
and
I
think
yeah.
P
Well,
it's
kind
of
summarize
that
point
people
are
going
to
be
Crossing
that
street
anyway,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
jaywalking
I
know
when
I
bike
down
that
lane
bike
in
front
that
hotel.
You
shoot
there
like
a
lot
of
like
big
buses
and
large
groups
and
they're
always
like
clogging
up
the
lane
and
it's
always
kind
of
a
mess
in
terms
of
pedestrians.
P
And
now
it's
going
to
be
even
more
so
so
I
understand
the
difficulty
of
this
site,
but
I
would
I
would
hope
that
we
could
try
to
work
out
something
else,
because
we're
going
to
have
in
a
potential
issue
down
the
road.
O
Just
want
to
Echo
a
lot
of
what's
been
heard
here.
I
think
what
we
see
is
some
Legacy
thinking
about
prioritizing
the
movement
of
vehicles
over
the
safe
movement
of
people
and
what
we've
foreseen
from
input
from
people
who
live
in
the
area
that
people
are
already
Crossing
in
the
middle
of
the
block
there
and
so
I.
O
Think
Arlington
has
a
choice
of
whether
we
want
to
create
a
safe
space
for
people
to
do
that,
and
maybe
think
more
creatively
about
how
the
the
road
is
is
laid
out
currently
to
force
vehicles
to
go
in
certain
in
certain
ways
and
create,
like
I,
said
that
safe
space
for
for
pedestrians,
nacto,
Federal,
Highway
Administration
both
have
guidance
that
state.
If
you've
got
desirable
points
on
either
side
of
the
street,
then
you
need
to
rethink
just
having
it.
B
P
P
I
wasn't
on
the
sbrc,
like
chairman,
will
tell
me
so
I
was
improving
to
some
of
the
conversations
that
you
that
you
all
had
about
the
the
parking
situation.
It
seems
kind
of
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
parking
space
for
cars
and
I
know
that
you're
basing
it
on
current
usage
but
I.
Think
like
I,
don't
know
how
far
back
you
go,
we
kind
of
had
an
abnormality
with
the
pandemic
and
a
lot
more
car
usage.
Metro
service
is
getting
a
lot
better.
P
There's
a
lot
of
cycling
infrastructure
that
is
being
built
and
and
short
like
every
couple
months.
The
alternatives
to
drive
in
a
car
are
really
improving
in
this
neighborhood,
and
it
really
is
one
of
the
like
Premier
neighborhoods
in
the
US
in
terms
of
public
transit
and
options
I'm
not
using
a
car.
P
So
we
already
saw
that
that
the
what
was
it
the
Bartlett
site
had
too
many
Park
had
too
much
too
much
parking
and
then
they
and
then
they
went
through
an
amendment
and
I'm
concerned
that
this
site
might
be.
While
it
makes
sense
now
a
couple
years
down
the
road
and
might
not,
it
might
be
too
too
much
parking
and
on
in
regards
to
that,
the
amount
for
bicycles,
I,
think
like
across
the
street.
P
The
building
has
like
420
bike
spots
if
I'm
correct,
and
this
was
86
or
some
long
term,
plus
some
along
the
periphery
and
I
was
wondering
if,
if
you
know,
if
just
the
logic
on
whether
you
got
that
balance
right,
I
mean
I'm
sure
you
already
did,
because
you
put
it
down
in
there
but
kind
of
the
logic
behind
it.
S
With
with
regard
to
our
thinking
about
parking,
we
made
a
commitment
to
our
residents
that
each
one
of
them,
who
has
a
parking
space
a
day,
would
have
a
parking
space
in
the
future.
I
think
we
fully
agree
that
if
we
have
underutilize
or
unutilize
Surface
parking,
the
the
worst
application
of
it
is
to
sit
the
surface
asphalt.
I,
don't
think
that
this
in
any
way
limits
our
ability
to
come
back
and
propose
an
additional
change
in
the
future.
S
To
the
extent
we
do
see
continual
changes
in
park
and
demand
and
the
ability
to
reclaim
what
is
surface
asphalt
and
put
it
towards
something
that
would
be
more
valuable
both
to
the
residents
to
us
in
the
neighborhood.
So,
with
regard
to
the
bike,
parking
I
do
think
that
there
were
some
compromises
made
in
order
to
adjust
the
building
to
create
additional
distance
between
Crystal
flats
and
the
proposed
building
that
did
shrink
the
Bike
Room
from
what
our
original
proposal
was.
B
B
Foreign,
since
nobody
else
jumped
in
I,
will
move
that
the
Transportation
Commission
recommend
that
the
County
Board
adopt
the
site
plan,
amendment
to
site
plan
number
13
for
construction
of
up
to
205,
101
square
feet
of
residential
gross
floor
area
up
to
209
residential
units
and
approximately
28
076
square
feet
of
retail
growth,
floor
area,
with
modifications
for
additional
density,
reduced
residential
and
Retail
parking
ratios
density
exclusions
and
other
modifications
necessary
to
achieve
the
proposed
development
located
at
1600
Eid
street
is
outlined
in
our
draft
board
report
dated
May
22nd
2023.
B
Yes,
yes,
hearing,
no
other
things.
I
will
then
move
to
amend
the
main
motion
stating
that
the
Transportation
Commission
further
recommends
that
County
staff
continue
to
work
to
find
a
way
to
achieve
a
mid-block
crossing
of
Eid
Street
between
15th
and
18th,
and
if
that
is
not
achievable.
With
this
project,
the
county
dedicate
the
500
000
off-site
Transportation
contribution
to
a
future
Capital
project
on
Eid
Street
between
15th
and
18th.
That
could
improve
the
Northbound
bike
facilities
as
well
as
provide
a
safe,
mid-block,
Crossing.
B
Is
everybody
clear
on
what
it
says
all
right,
then
we
will
vote
on
that
motion
to
mend
as
soon
as
I
get
my
spreadsheet
in
order.
Commissioner
Coleman
aye,
commissioner
Hussein
aye,
commissioner
Nolan
aye,
commissioner
Elaine
tell
me
aye,
commissioner
Locker
aye,
commissioner
Ludlow
aye,
commissioner
aye
commissioner
Gary
aye,
commissioner
Terry
aye,
commissioner
Theo
aye
and
I
will
also
vote.
Yes
that
passes
11-0.
N
B
L
B
And
I
too
will
vote
Yes
and
that
also
passes
11-0.
Thank
you
for
an
excellent
project
that
we
barely
needed
to
talk
about
the
project
itself
and
only
talk
about
off-site
Transportation
improvements.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Msobukoya
I
think
we
will
take
a
brief
five-minute
break
for
the
commission
and
then
we
will
come
back
to
the
next
agenda
item.
B
G
A
R
So
I'll
go
through
these
quickly
as
a
bit
of
background
on
the
creation
of
this
alley,
it
was
originally
dedicated
as
part
of
a
subdivision
in
in
1912..
Our
records
in
the
Department
of
Environmental
Services
indicate
that
the
county
never
improved
the
alley
or
opened
it
to
the
public
at
some
unknown
point.
In
the
past,
the
East-West
portion
of
the
alley
was
paved
and
gated
at
both
ends
and
then
the
Eastern
portion
of
the
alley
that
sort
of
dog
legs
down
to
the
intersection
of
Quincy
Street
and
Fifth
Road
North.
R
We
believe
it
was
at
some
point
during
the
building
of
the
adjacent
founder,
Square
property
that
that
that
section
of
the
alley
was
sort
of
absorbed
by
the
the
adjacent
towing
company
they
sort
of
moved
their
their
fence
over.
R
We
believe
here's
some
shots
from
the
street,
the
one
the
image
on
the
on
the
left
is
looking
from
Randolph
Street
looking
East,
and
you
can
really
see
that
the
10-foot
alley
in
the
gate
and
also
that
the
the
buildings
along
the
south
side
of
the
alley
are
right
up
to
the
property
line.
And
then
the
parking
lot
that
is
on
the
north
side
of
the
alley
is
right
across
they're,
very
close
together
and
then
the
image
on
the
right.
R
Looking
Quincy
Street
at
the
intersection
of
Quincy
Street
and
Fifth
Road
North
sort
of
looking
to
the
Northwest,
and
we
can
see
that
sort
of
last
section
of
fence
right
here.
That's
where
essentially,
where
the
alley
the
paper
alley
exists.
R
So
in
November
of
last
year,
the
owners
of
the
properties
received
no
zoning
violation
for
having
a
fence
blocking
a
public
alley.
R
Those
owners
submitted
an
application
to
vacate
the
alley
as
a
way
to
resolve
that
that
zoning
violation,
the
subject
alley,
is
not
identified
as
a
street
or
an
alley
on
the
master,
Transportation
plan
or
otherwise
identified
as
a
feature
on
the
comprehensive
Plan
and
there's
no
existing
utilities
located
in
the
area
of
the
subject
alley.
R
Here
we
have
a
plot
showing
the
the
alley.
It's
a
4,
307
square
feet,
10
feet
wide
generally
running
East
West
between
north
and
Randolph
and
Quincy,
just
as
it
gets
to
that
that
Eastern
portion
it
dogleds
down
towards
the
intersection,
and
this
next
image
shows
generally
the
the
East-West
portion.
Since
it's
dedicated
in
the
middle
of
a
subdivision,
it
would
be
split
in
half
in
certain
areas
right
over
here.
R
The
properties
on
both
side
are
different
legal
entities,
but
both
part
of
American
Service
Center,
so
to
keep
the
parcel
sort
of
in
a
bit
more
whole.
One
side
is
going
to
convey
its
interest
to
the
other
side.
We
can
keep
these
properties
whole
and
then,
on
the
southern
side,
these
will
go.
This
portion
will
go
to
the
property
owners
here
and
on
this
side,
especially
this
dog
language,
is
on
the
edge
of
the
subdivision.
All
10
feet
will
go
this
way
towards
the
the
4000
C
LLC
owners.
R
And
we
have
a
vicinity
map
that
shows
locations
of
the
buildings
in
a
little
bit
more
detail.
So
you
can
see
the
location.
The
walls
of
these
service
Bay
buildings
are
right
up
against
the
the
alley
and
the
parking
lots
are
just
to
the
north
and
I'll
skip.
Reading
the
the
recommendation.
R
R
Actually
shows
if
I
could
pull
it
up.
I
believe
it
shows
that
pretty
far
to
the
North
of
where
the
alley
is
essentially
where
the
existing
section
of
fifth
Road
between
Quincy
and
Pollard,
it
would
continue
over
sorry.
I
don't
have
that
image,
but
let
me
see
if
I
can
find
it's
essentially
here
and
it
comes
straight
across
and
it
moves
a
little
bit
this
way,
but
it's
further
to
the
north.
It's
not
where
the
existing
alley
is.
V
If
it
helps
commissioner
Slatt
I,
don't
think
that
anything
that
we're
doing
here
tonight
would
in
any
way
prevent
the
realization
of
that
were
all
of
these
properties
to
redevelop
under
that
area.
Plan
I
will
say
that
we
had
a
minor
Amendment
approved
a
few
months
ago,
made
me
more
than
that
have
lost
track
of
time
and
space
at
this
point
in
the
evening,
but
to
improve
the
parking
lot,
and
you
know,
surroundings
of
the
dealership
itself,
because
the
dealership
is
not
going
anywhere
anytime
soon.
V
There
have
been
extended
discussions
about
how
to
realize
that
specific
area
plan
in
this
neighborhood.
My
client
has
worked
with
the
county
and
with
neighboring
owners
for
years
to
attempt
to
do
that
and
actually
participate
in
a
land
swap
that
led
to
the
Harris
Teeter
development.
That's
kind
of
caddy
quarter
to
this,
so
we've
done
a
lot
to
help
realize
that,
but
this
dealership
isn't
isn't
going
anywhere.
There
were
efforts
years
ago,
and
there
were
some
other
owners
who
didn't
want
to
play
ball.
It
just
never
happened.
V
B
R
We
also
propose
staff
had
that
that
same
concern,
we're
also
proposing
to
include
in
the
deed
of
vacation
a
restrictive
covenant
that
would
prevent
any
building
being
built
within
the
vacated
area
or
that
any
portion
of
the
vacated
area
be
used
for
density.
R
They
would
have
to
come
back
to
the
County
Board
to
have
that
restriction
released,
and
the
purpose
of
that
restriction
is
so
that
we
can
retain
that
sort
of
Leverage
that
we
have,
as
as
having
a
property
interest
here
in
the
future,
to
ensure
that
that
this
area
does
redevelop
in
accordance
with
the
North
Quincy
Street
plan.
B
That's
helpful.
Thank
you.
Anybody
else
have
questions
on
this
absurdly
detailed
thing,
commissioner
Lane
tell
me
yeah:
it's
not.
M
So
much
a
question
about
this
particular
one,
but
these
keep
coming
up.
We
have
do
we.
We
seem
to
have
a
lot
of
alleys
that
are
mapped
or
in
the
property
records
that
have
been
built
on.
This
came
up
with
the
Bank
of
America
site
on
Columbia
Pike.
It
came
up
with
the
very
last
thing
we
you
know
that
we
looked
at
with
the
career
center.
M
R
And
I
think
it
you're
right,
it
does
come
up
and
we
see
it
with
with
site
plans
very
often-
and
you
know,
I
think
there
are
quite
a
number
of
of
right-of-ways
and
alleys
that
were
recorded
with
subdivisions
and
that
there
exist
in
the
land
records,
but
there's
no
sort
of
comprehensive
place
to
look
and
see
here
are
all
of
these.
You
know
potentially
hundreds
of
different
alleys
they're
in
residential
neighborhoods
commercial
areas
and
there's
just
not
one
single
Source
to
to
find
all
those.
B
Just
add
the
commissioner
lanternly's
point
that
we've
had
an
item
in
our
Master
Transportation
streets
element
since
2011
12
years
ago.
That
says
we
should
evaluate
all
existing
paper
streets
and
determine
whether
they
should
be
constructed
or
if
we
can
use
the
space
for
something
else,
and
it
just
feels
like
really
we
gotta,
we
gotta
do
that,
because
it
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
paper
alleys
paper
streets
kicking
around
commissioner
moradvik.
P
Yeah
I
had
a
question
generally
about
these,
like
in
in
our
previous
experience
in
in
exchange
for
a
vacation,
the
the
owner,
the
developer
provides
a
some
type
of
community
benefit.
That's
normally
been
the
course
and
what
you're
saying
that
this
is
a
short-term
thing
that
in
if
the
site
is
developed
in
the
future,
that
the
county
would
still
have
some
rights
to
that
where,
where
that
could
be
bargained
for
so
to
speak,.
R
Yeah
that's
correct,
typically,
typically,
when
we
have
a
vacation
of
a
right-of-way,
we
look
at
the
contributory
value
generally
they're
coming
along
with
site
plan
developments
or
those
types
of
things.
So
it's
what's
the
contributory
value
of
the
vacation
and
usually
that's
monetary
consideration
for
the
vacation.
In
this
case,
there
is
a
small
bit
of
monetary
consideration
for
this
vacation,
but
the
bulk
of
that
since
we're
limiting
the
ability
to
build
or
the
ability
to
get
any
density
until
the
future.
V
L
L
R
R
I,
don't
know
that
it's
paved
I
know
the
portion,
that's
on
there
parcel
is
paved
and
then
when
they
move
the
fence,
I'm,
not
sure
if
they
paved
that
or
just
put
down
Stone
what
have
you,
but
they
are
parking
Vehicles
there.
Yes,.
L
Other
question
I
seem
to
remember
from
a
few
years
ago
this
may
have
been
pre-pandemic
but
with
the
old
Italian
restaurant.
On
the
other
end
of
that
paper,
alley
I
seem
to
remember
that
was
slated
for
redevelopment
a
few
years
ago.
What
happened
to
that
then
I
guess
I
didn't
go
through
or
am
I
just
imagining.
It.
B
All
right,
seeing
no
other
hands
up
we'll,
go
ahead
and
move
that
the
Transportation
Commission
finds
that
the
vacation
of
a
10
foot
wide
public
Alley
located
between
North
Randolph,
Street
and
North,
Quincy,
Street
adjacent
to
501
and
505
North,
Randolph,
Street
and
4011
through
4019.
Fifth
Road
North
with
conditions,
is
substantially
in
accord
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
including
the
master
Transportation
plan
of
Arlington
County
Virginia.
P
Q
Q
I
want
to
get
a
clarification
on
that
because
in
the
board
report
it
says
that
we
just
have
to
go
back
to
the
County
Board.
L
V
Q
So
the
restrictions
they
would
have
to
be
able
to
come
back
to
the
County
Board
and
it
could
be
lifted,
I
mean
it,
but
it
has
to
come
back.
So
at
this
point
nothing
we
would
have
anything.
Any
other
changes
would
have
to
still
come
back
correct.
L
There
was
some
talk
of
like
dollar
amounts,
but
no
is,
is
it?
Is
it
only
that
the
there's
a
d
there
will
be
a
deed
restriction
on
future
development
to
keep
that
open
for
now
or.
R
There
is
proposed
compensation
for
the
vacation
at
this
point.
It's
a
little
bit
over
thirty
five
thousand
dollars.
I
don't
have
the
exact
number
and
then,
but
that's
with
that
restrictive
covenant
that
will
be
recorded
in
that
deed
of
vacation.
So
in
the
future,
if
the
site
is
Consolidated,
it
comes
back
for
redevelopment.
R
Presumably
Redevelopment
would
need
to
remove
that
restriction
in
order
to
either
build
on
that
area
of
the
vacation
or
to
use
that
4
307
square
feet
for
the
purposes
of
calculating
density.
They
would
have
to
come
back
to
the
board
to
the
County
Board
and
request
to
have
that
restriction
released
and
essentially
pay
the
difference
of
90
of
the
then
fee,
simple
value
versus
the
the
10
of
the
fee.
Simple
value
of
today.
B
Yes,
please,
essentially,
if
the
alley
is
a
the
Ali
easement
is
a
restriction
right.
It
says:
there's
all
sorts
all
this
stuff
that
you
can't
do
with
it,
because
it's
an
alley
because
they're
not
getting
that
restriction
entirely
lifted
right
if
this
were
being
vacated
without
this
deed
of
Covenant.
That
would
be
worth
a
lot
of
money
right.
All
of
this
land
is
now
available
to
do
essentially,
whatever
you
want
with
it,
and
so
the
amount
that
they
would
be
paying
to
the
county
for
a
full
removal
of
this
alley.
B
Easement
would
be
much
more
than
thirty
six
thousand
dollars,
it
would
be
say,
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
or
something
like
that.
Okay,
instead
they
were
paying
36
000
they're
only
getting
to
use
it
essentially
as
a
place
to
drive
and
park
and
be
able
to
put
up
a
gate,
which
is
the
thing
that
they
can't
do
right
now,
and
should
they
redevelop
there
will
be
this
other
opportunity
for
them
to
say
hey.
B
B
Any
other
discussion
of
the
motion
that
is
before
us
all
right
to
a
vote.
Then,
commissioner
Coleman
hi,
commissioner
Hussein
aye,
commissioner
Nolan
aye,
commissioner
land
tell
me
aye,
commissioner
Locker
aye,
commissioner
Ludlow
aye,
commissioner
radovic
aye,
commissioner
Gary
aye,
commissioner
Terry
aye,
commissioner
Theo,
reluctantly
I
and
I
too
will
vote.
Yes,
that
is
11-0.
B
F
I
appreciate
it
yeah
so
today
I'll
be
talking
about
South,
George,
Mason,
Drive,
multimetal
Corridor
study.
My
name
is
Leah
Gerber
I'm,
a
principal
planner
within
Des,
specifically
in
Transportation,
Planning
and
I,
will
kind
of,
like
Chris,
said,
skip
quite
a
bit
of
the
study
overview
and
just
delve
into
some
of
the
existing
conditions,
called
our
wide
cross
sections
key
intersections
and
then
I'll
just
briefly
touch
upon
next
steps
and
Chris
feel
free
to
just
kind
of.
Let
me
know
when
you
want
to
pick
back
up
study
overview.
F
Basically,
this
is
the
study
area
two
miles
from
Arlington
Boulevard
to
the
county
line
generally
South
in
Woody
Street.
We
divided
these
into
three
segments
based
on
you
know:
General
cross-sections.
We
have
a
Time
on
here.
It
started
in
the
fall
of
winter
2021.
You
can
see.
We
had
Community
kickoff
meeting
in
April
2022.
We
last
had
you
know
our
community
meeting
in
March
2023.
You
can
see
now
we're
doing
commission
briefings
so
some
of
the
existing
conditions.
While
we
heard
we
had
phase
one
of
Engagement,
this
was
in
April.
F
F
F
We
also
had
about
400
pins
and
comments
where
a
lot
of
them
focused
on
intersections
and
just
to
quickly
flag.
We
did
do
some
data
analysis
as
well.
Really,
the
study
was
informed
by
four
factors,
so
planning
guidance,
data
analysis,
public
engagement
and
interdepartmental
coordination.
So
we
did
some,
you
know
speed
and
volume
collection.
Here
we
looked
at
some
turning
movements
once
again
for
that
key
intersection
engagement.
F
F
So
quarter-wide
Concepts
this
is
phase
two
engagement
so
similarly
to
phase
one
where
we're
looking
at
existing
conditions,
we
had
a
virtual
community
meeting.
We
also
had
an
online
feedback
questionnaire.
We
had
about
392
people
that
responded,
and
this
time
we
had
an
in-person
workshop
and
open
house.
F
We
asked
people,
you
know
how
do
you
prioritize
Transportation
within
each
segment?
You
know.
Generally,
it
was
the
same
so
about
70
percent
of
respondents
write
dedicated
Bikeway
as
a
top
three
priority
and
then
about
77
people,
ranked
77
of
respondents
bring
sidewalks
as
well
and
then
vehicle
traveling
to
rounded
out
those
top
three.
F
So
I'll
highlight
this
in
a
little
bit,
but
essentially
we
showed
kind
of
two
segments
that
was
a
result
of
those
four
factors
that
I
mentioned
earlier.
Really
concept
A,
which
is
the
darker
green,
is
kind
of
a
separated
bike
Lanes
with
the
planted
buffer
area,
removal
of
parking
and
concept.
B
was
a
multi-use
trail
removal
of
some
parking,
but
not
to
the
extent
of
concept
A
once
again,
with
the
planted
buffer
space
and
widen
sidewalk,
and
we
ask
people
you
know
based
on
your
mode
of
transportation.
F
F
We
also
had
quite
a
bit
of
you,
know
General
comments.
We
had
a
space
for
open-ended
comments
and
parking
related
concerns
was
the
highest
amount
of
comments
specifically
concerns
with
removing
parking
on
segment,
one
which
is
from
Arlington
Boulevard
to
Columbia
Pike.
There
were
comments
that
also
supported
reduction
of
parking,
and
there
was
some
reiterated
support
for
the
project
and
then
some
concern
for
an
interaction
between
people,
riding
bikes
and
walking
or
rolling
on
a
12-foot
path.
F
B
F
Sounds
good,
thank
you,
so
you
can
see
up
in
the
corner
highlighted
here.
This
is
from
Arlington
Boulevard
to
Columbia
Pike,
and
this
is
generally
what's
here
today.
So
these
are
not
accurate.
You
know
necessarily
for
every
kind
of
facet,
but
throughout
so
basically
I'm
going
to
start
from
the
outside.
You
have
a
four
foot:
sidewalk
three
foot
buffer
strip.
You
know
seven
feet
on
each
side
and
then
these
11
foot
and
12
foot
vehicular
lens
with
a
six
foot
medium.
F
The
preferred
concept
starting
from
the
outside
is
a
12
foot
multi-use
path.
So
that's
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists,
a
four
foot
buffer
strip,
we've
narrowed
the
lane
here
and
we've
removed
parking
on
this
Northbound
or
east
side
narrowed
this
to
11
feet
and
then
10
feet
kept
the
median
the
same
same.
For
the
other
side,
it's
important
to
note
that
those
vehicular
Lanes
on
the
outside
are
kept
at
11
feet
for
transit
to
be
able
to
function.
F
Great,
so
this
is
kind
of
phase
three,
which
was
our
last
round
of
Engagement.
You
can
see
we
had
a
virtual
community
meeting,
which
was
very
well
attended.
We
fielded
about
50
questions,
I,
believe
we
had
an
online
questionnaire
as
well,
which
once
again
was
available
in
six
languages,
and
we
had
some
pop-ups
at
Barcroft
Apartments.
F
So
this
is
a
short-term
solution,
and
this
is
you
know,
operating
the
assumption
that
the
bridge
you
know
is
not
being
rebuilt.
We
did
reach
out
to
VDOT
and
they
do
not
have
plans
to
rebuild
that
at
this
time
and
could
not
give
us
an
estimate
for
when
that
would
be
based
on
how
they
do
their
Bridge
inspections,
which
is
why
we
kind
of
came
up
with
this
short
and
long-term
solution.
F
So
here
we're
really
working
within
the
confines
of
the
existing
bridge,
and
you
can
see
we've
maintained
that
five
foot
sidewalk,
but
we've
added
a
protected
bike
lane
that's
five
feet.
You
know
this
is
beneficial,
you
know,
so
we
can
get
people
through
on
bikes,
but
it
also
adds
a
little
bit
of
lower
stress
experience
for
people
walking
so
rather
than
being
adjacent
to
traffic.
They're
adjacent
to
you
know,
bikes
that
are
generally
still
removing
and
oftentimes.
Sometimes
people
can
even
step
into
the
bike
lane.
F
F
The
long-term
solution
here
is
operating
under
the
assumption
that
the
bridge
is
rebuilt.
At
some
point,
you
can
see
that
the
12-foot
Trail
is
basically
continued
through
on
the
east
side
or
Northbound
side.
Once
again,
those
vehicular
lanes
are
narrowed,
reflected
throughout
and
then
we've
also
added
an
eight
foot
sidewalk
on
the
other
side,
there
also
will
be
updated,
curb
ramps,
which
you
cannot
see
in
this
illustration.
F
So
when
we
ask
people
you
know,
do
you
feel
this
would
change
your
feelings
of
safety,
for
these
modes
is
kind
of
some
of
the
responses
we
included
and
received
I.
Think
specifically,
for
the
short
term,
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
support
from
riding
a
bicycle
and
walking
and
rolling
with
a
little
bit
more
of
kind
of
ambivalence,
specifically
with
driving
a
personal
vehicle
and
once
again,
looking
at
that
long
term,
we
had
some
support.
F
You
know
that
it
would
make
you
feel
safer,
looking
at
walking
and
biking
and
then
also
had
some
neutrals
with
taking
public
transit
as
well
as
driving
a
personal
vehicle.
I
think
it's
also
important
to
note
that,
throughout
all
of
these
graphs,
you'll
see
that
quite
a
few
respondents
said
not
applicable
for
riding
a
scooter.
You
can
see
about
32
stated
that
here
foreign,
so
another
intersection
we
focused
on
was
Columbia
Pike,
and
this
is
what's
here
today.
F
So
this
is
what
was
included
in
that
online
engagement
form,
and
this
is
what
we've
proposed
here.
You
can
see.
I
can
go
through
some
of
these
bullets,
essentially
there's
some
wider
sidewalks,
but
to
improve
this
experience
for
pedestrians.
You
can
kind
of
see
here.
This
is
that
12
foot
Trail
that's
once
again,
traveling
on
that
east
side
or
Northbound
side,
there's
some
curb
bump
outs
to
make
the
intersection
crossing
a
little
shorter.
I.
Think
one
thing
that
you
can't
really
see
Illustrated
here
but
will
be
recommended
from
this
study.
F
So,
generally,
what
we
heard
there
was
General
support
for
the
multi-use
trail,
but
once
again
there
was
concern
for
the
separation
of
pedestrian
cyclists
and
scooter
riders.
You
know
making
sure
that
there
was
enough
room
in
that
12
feet.
For
all
these
different
users.
There
was
concern
about
traffic
signalization.
F
Specifically,
there
was
a
call
for
full
face
separation
allowing
Peds
and
cyclists
to
safely
cross,
and
there
were
still
concerns
that
the
intersection
is
too
large,
specifically
that
there
are
too
many
vehicular
lanes
and
it
makes
Crossing.
You
know
whether
you're
biking,
walking
or
rolling
difficult,
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
you
know,
perceptions
and
feelings
of
safety
reflected
in
this
graph.
You
know,
generally,
you
know,
walking
and
rolling
that
one
up,
but
you
can
see
it's
a
little
bit
more
neutral,
looking
at
riding
a
bicycle
driving
a
personal
vehicle.
F
I
want
to
note
really
quickly
before
I
talk
about
South
Four,
Mile
Run
Drive,
that
we
did
actually
change
the
scope
to
do
some
Sim
traffic
modeling
to
evaluate
trade-offs
at
the
intersection,
because
it
is
so
complicated.
We
looked
really
at
these
three
things.
You
know:
impacts
of
separating
the
trail,
Crossing
impacts
of
potentially
rerouting
the
r-72
bus
or
having
a
Transit
only
lane
and
then
just
further
analyzing
how
to
restrict
and
simplify
traffic
phasing.
F
F
F
We
have
some
shorter
crosswalks,
with
curb
bump
outs
to
improve
that
Crossing
safety
and
once
again
we
have
some
changing
traffic
signals
so
essentially
restricting
the
left
turn
movement,
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
can
see
my
mouse
but
from
South
Four
Mile,
Run,
Drive
minor
to
South
George
Mason
drive
to
protect
the
trail
users,
and
that
would
be
protecting
the
East
Side
proposed
Trail,
as
well
as
the
wnod
trail
users,
and
then
we
also
talked
about
full
face
separation
between
Trail
users,
Crossing
South,
Four,
Mile,
Run,
Drive,
major
and
drivers.
Turning
across
the
trail.
F
So
here
and
then
partial
phase
separation
for
left
turns
only
between
Trail
users,
Crossing
South,
Four,
Mile,
Run,
Drive,
mini
or
minor
and
drivers.
Turning
across
the
trail,
we
reallocated
some
space
on
South
George,
Mason
Drive.
We
took
away
kind
of
a
merge
lane
on
Southwest
Drive
minor,
and
this
is
what
we're
really
calling
calling
the
kind
of
proposed
alternative
one.
F
So
for
this
intersection
we
really
focused
on
a
more
novel
concept
as
well,
because
we
did
receive
so
many
comments
from
the
public
and
really
looking
at
all
of
the
you
know:
Sim
traffic
modeling.
We
did
it's
just
not
a
great
intersection,
I
think
the
nature
of
the
intersection
of
having
these
two
roads,
minor
and
Majors
so
close,
makes
it
very
difficult.
So
they
came
up
with
this
concept
which
we're
calling
a
peanut
about.
You
can
see
it's
kind
of
this
peanut
shaped
here
roundabout.
F
It's
been
used
in
several
places,
specifically
on
the
east
coast
in
Massachusetts
and
Connecticut,
and
this
really
just
aims
to
show
that
you
can
kind
of
reduce
speeds
while
maintaining
the
traffic
flow
and
it's
really
focusing
on
a
Dutch
style
roundabout.
So
these
Crossings
are
set
back
for
pedestrians.
F
So
what
we
heard
overall,
we
had
you
know
some
people
looking
at
walking
and
rolling
riding
a
bicycle
and
driving
a
personal
vehicle
that
thought
that
it
would
be
safer.
It
would
increase
their
feelings
of
safety,
Transit
felt
a
little
more
neutral
and
then
riding
a
scooter
was
split,
pretty
even
I.
Think
one
thing
that's
important
to
note
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
we
heard
for
this
was
that
they
wanted
the
county
to
go
further
with
that
design.
F
A
lot
of
people
called
for
a
bridge
over
the
W
or
over
South
George
Mason
Drive
for
the
wnod
trail.
You
know
something
similar
to
what's
over
Langston
Boulevard
a
lot
of
people
called
for
South,
Four,
Mile,
Run
minor,
to
be
closed
or
to
be
moved
once
again,
because
the
nature
of
the
intersection
makes
it
really
challenging.
F
We
also
asked
you
know
people
to
rank
their
interests,
so
you
know,
should
Arlington
County
consider
a
novel
intersection
treatment
like
the
peanut
about-
and
you
can
see
here
that
you
know
about
the
most
about
36
of
people
ranked
this
7
500,
meaning
that's
on
the
higher
scale,
meaning
they
think
we
should
kind
of
move
forward
with
that.
We
had
about
your
26
rank
it
between
1575
10,
between
25
and
50,
and
then
28,
say
0
to
25,
meaning
they're,
not
in
favor
of
the
county.
F
Moving
forward
with
that,
we
also
had
kind
of
more
minor
Crossing
improvements
you
can
see
highlighted
here.
This
is
really
what
came
out
of
the
data
analysis,
engagement,
MTP,
as
well
as
interdepartmental
coordination,
something
we
heavily
coordinated
on
with
nfatc
was
the
possibility
of
a
traffic
signal
at
6th,
Street,
South
and
South
George
Mason
Drive,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
a
lot
of
these
Crossing
types
are
based
on
the
vision,
zero,
multimodal
safety
engineering
toolbox.
F
So
next
steps
briefly,
we
are
in
commission
briefings,
as
you
can
see
here
right
now.
We
are
working
with
the
Consultants
tool,
design
to
finish
a
South
George
Mason,
multimodal
study
report
that
will
be
publicly
available,
and
then
we
also
have
a
technical
memo
that
will
also
be
publicly
available
at
609
pages
and
includes
many
appendices
all
of
the
traffic
analysis,
so
that'll
definitely
be
for
the
public
who
are
more
interested
in
details.
F
Feel
free
to
reach
out
to
myself
or
Nate
Graham
I.
Think
the
you
know
really
the
next
steps
after
kind
of
wrapping
up
the
study
are
moving
that
forward
to
you
know
Capital
project
process.
But
once
again
you
know
this
is
a
study,
so
it's
kind
of
the
broad
first
steps
and
there
will
be
more
opportunities
for
engagement
and
I'm
sure
you
know,
as
that
progresses
staff
will
be
coming
back
to
TC.
B
Thank
you,
Miss
Gerber
does
Steph
have
any
particular
grants
applications
in
mind
for
George
Mason
Drive.
At
this
time.
B
W
I
would
just
like
to
commend
on
the
peanut
about
not
only
is
a
great
moniker.
It's
I
I've
biked
through
that
intersection
many
many
times
and
it's
it's
a
difficult
spot.
I
get
a
little
anxious
when
I
enter
that
and
this
would
this
would
help
alleviate
it.
So
I
think
this
all
seems
like
it's
going
in
the
right
direction.
B
And
I
will
just
reiterate
that
I
think
the
bar
Croft
Department
Redevelopment
is
a
great
opportunity
to
maybe
close
a
portion
of
Four
Mile
Run
minor
or
realign
a
portion
of
Four
Mile
Run
minor,
to
make
this
intersection
less
crazy
and
that
staff
should
be
continuing
to
have
that
conversation
with
the
ownership
at
Barcroft.
As
those
plans
start
to
move
forward.
P
Mean
overall,
really
good
I'm
excited
about
this
and
I
like
what
you
did
over
the
the
route
50
bridge
and
and
for
all
the
stuff.
That's
like
night
ideal.
You
can
kind
of
understand
why
it
is
and
how
difficult
of
a
space
it
is
to
work
with
and
how
many
other
conflicts
there
are.
So
I
think
this
is
a
really
well
done
project
so
far,.
B
M
Me
yeah
I
just
comment
on
the
you
mentioned
about
the
the
bridge
over
over
Arlington
Boulevard.
Why
do
you
even
need
that
median
in
it
it's
very
low
speed
because
of
the
street
lights
traffic
lights
did
there's
four
feet
that
could
be
used
in
a
much
better
way,
so
even
the
ideal,
one
that
you're
proposing
still
keeps
that
four
foot
wide
median
I
definitely
recommend
getting
rid
of
that
and
turning
that
over
to
to
pedestrians
and
bicycles.
B
F
A
X
Fine:
okay,
that's
fine
for
the
action
item
for
ss4
I'm
actually
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Dan
malov
to
do
that
item
and
then
we
will
tag
team
on
the
state
and
Regional
Grant
update
foreign.
Y
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
good
evening.
I
am
here
to
give
you
a
quick
briefing
and
then
ask
for
your
TC
recommendation
to
the
County
Board
to
endorse
submittal
of
an
application
to
the
federal
Safe,
Streets
and
roads
for
all
program
in
the
interests
of
the
lateness
of
the
night
I'm
going
to
skip
through
some
of
my
mini
notes
and
give
you
a
little
bit
more
highlights,
but,
of
course
feel
free
to
ask
for
more
details
on
anything
we
want.
Y
So
this
is,
you
may
recall,
a
federal
program
came
out
last
year,
it's
funded
for
the
next
yeah
five
years,
or
so
it
is
essentially
a
federal
funding
program
for
vision,
zero
type
safety
projects
around
the
country.
If
everything
I
say
sounds
familiar,
it
is
because
we
did
talk
about
this.
Last
year
we
did
submit
a
project
last
year.
Y
Very,
very
quick
review.
Applications
can
range
this
year
from
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
25
million
dollars.
This
is
FY
23
money,
yes,
23.
you
get
80
Federal
funding
have
to
come
up
with
a
20
match.
Applications
are
due
July
10th
to
usdot
count
backwards
in
time.
Y
That's
why
we're
here
to
you
now,
because
this
is
a
federal
program
projects-
do
have
to
be
federalized,
which
does
sort
of
limit
the
scale
of
projects
that
we
might
use
the
money
for
it's
not
worth
it
to
federalize
projects
due
to
the
planning
cost
of
doing
that
unless
they're
sort
of
large
projects
this
year.
Well,
let
me
give
you
just
a
very,
very
quick
reminder
of
what
we
did.
Last
year
last
year
we
applied
for
the
Washington
Boulevard
Arlington
Boulevard
ramp
number
one
project.
Sadly,
we
were
not
awarded.
Y
We
thought
we
had
a
pretty
strong
application,
but
there
weren't
very
many
implementation
grants
last
cycle,
so
you
can
get
through
this
program
either
either
money
for
planning
or
money
to
you
know
Implement
and
since
last
year
was
the
first
year
of
the
cycle.
The
overwhelming
majority
of
the
of
the
awards
were
for
planning.
There
were
very,
very
few
implementation,
Awards
we're
hoping
that
this
year
there
will
be
a
few
more
implementation,
Awards
being
not
the
first
year
of
the
program
anymore,
and
so
we
are
proposing
applying
for
wait
for
it.
Y
The
Washington
Boulevard
Arlington
Boulevard
ramp
number
one
project,
but
also
the
ramp
number
two
part
of
the
project,
so
it
is,
it
is
just
a
little
bit
different,
so
this
is
what's
a
very
high
priority
project
for
us
last
year.
It
is
still
a
very
high
priority
project
for
us
this
year.
This
is
the
County's.
You
know
highest
crash
location
year
in
year
out
year
over
year.
The
project
address
is
just
just
just
very
huge
and
clear
safety
needs
at
10
or
11
million
dollars.
It's
it's.
Y
We
think
the
right
scale
and
it's
already
on
the
federalization
track,
so
it
fits
very
squarely
into
the
many
boxes
that
we
have
to
have
to
navigate
these
grants
around
I
will
give
you.
Let
me
give
you
a
quick
screenshot.
Y
If
this
will
come
up
there,
we
go
so
this
is
actually
an
image
from
last
year's
materials
regarding
Grant
ramp
number
one,
the
plan
here
would
you
can
see
Arlington,
Boulevard
and
Washington
Boulevard
here
so
ramp.
Number
one
is
both
of
these
ramps.
Here,
it's
this
quadrant.
We
like
to
keep
you
on
your
toes
with
names.
Like
that,
the
plan
here
would
basically
make
these
ramps
straighter.
Y
It
would
combine
them
to
meet
at
the
same
point,
on
Washington
Boulevard
reduce
the
turning
radius
of
the
ramps,
move,
the
driver,
acceleration
area
off
of
the
off
of.
What's
now
the
ramp
and
and
on
to
what's
more
Arlington
Boulevard
move
the
trail
Crossing
down
the
ramp
to
where
there
are
better
sight
lines
and
cars
are
moving
slower.
Y
Tc
endorsed
this
at
its
July
2022
meeting
for
last
year's
submission,
nothing
about.
It
has
really
they
changed
since
then,
for
the
most
part,
we'll
just
dust
off
last
year's
submission
update
it
as
necessary
for
this
year's
application
cycle
and
resubmit,
but
with
the
addition
of
ramp
number
two,
so
ramp
number
two,
you
can
see
my
cursor
here.
It's
this
one,
the
the
on-ramp
to
Arlington
Boulevard
from
Washington
Boulevard,
going
east
onto
Route
50.
Y
this
project-
you
know
you
could
it
would
be
quite
a
lot
smaller
than
ramp
number
one.
This
would
basically
just
add
a
merge
area
right
in
here
where
there's
none
currently,
so
you
know,
cars
will
have
a
better,
a
better
merge
Zone
than
there
is
today.
Y
This
is
Advanced
enough
through
our
planning
that
you
know
it
wasn't
the
case
that
we
could
apply
for
it
last
year,
but
now
it
is,
you
know
it
is
mature
enough
to
do
that.
It's
only
another
million
dollars
on
top
of
the
other
project,
it's
much
smaller,
so
we're
now
treating
the
two
as
sort
of
the
same
a
single
interchange
project
and
would
like
to
just
go
ahead
and
apply
for
them
together.
Y
Yeah,
you
very
helpfully
brought
up
that
comment
last
year
as
well,
and
it
clued
us
into
do
a
little
bit
better
job
of
matching
our
planning
that
we
do
that.
That
fits
in
with
that
approach,
but
maybe
didn't
use
that
language
and
and
making
a
crosswalk
with
it
in
the
application
itself.
So
boy
I
should
have
I
should
have
pulled
up
that
section
of
last
year's
application
and
sadly
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me.
Y
I
don't
want
to
misspeak.
I
can
tell
you
that
that,
following
your
suggestion
last
year,
we
we
did
make
a
a
specific
point
to
crosswalk.
Basically,
you
know
what
we're
doing
with
the
language
and
and
did
our
best
to
include
it.
I
think
we
did
an
okay
job
if
you'd
like
further
detail,
I'll
have
to
get
back
to
you.
Y
Yeah,
so
what
we
did
last
year
is
we
essentially
mapped
the
County's
Equity
emphasis
areas,
and
there
are
a
few
different
versions
of
those
and
forgive
me
for
not
recalling
exactly
whether
we
use
the
Cod
version
or
a
federally
a
slightly
different
Federal
definition,
but
we
mapped
them.
We
showed
where
trips
are
coming
from,
where
trips
are
going,
how
this
project
would
serve
those
trips
and
just
in
addition
to
you,
know
inherently
having
an
equity
component
due
to
the
due
to
the
nature
of
trips.
Y
That's
serving,
but
essentially
we
did
that
Geographic
exercise
to
show
where
trips
are
going
and
where
they're
coming
from-
and
you
know
it
meets
that
requirement,
as
as
we
saw
it
laid
out
in
the
nofo.
O
The
one
thing
I
don't
think
I
raised
last
year,
though
too,
is
about
making
sure
that
vulnerable
Road
users
are
protected
in
this
project
and
that
their
ability
to
move
along
this
project
safely
once
it's
finished
is,
can
you
tell
me,
are
we
going
to
be
addressing
that?
Are
you
planning
to
address
that
and
how
are
you
addressing
it.
Y
Well,
I
I
think
the
the
main
purpose
of
the
project
is
to
better
protect
vulnerable
Road
users,
who
are
currently
very
vulnerable
at
this
Crossing
and
and
give
them
a
a
much
safer
Crossing.
Y
O
I
think
we
just
need
to
be
clear
in
whatever
we're
submitting
to
dot
that
that's
going
to
be
a
part
of
it
as
well.
I'm
I'm
very
familiar
with
this
intersection,
I
use
it
regularly
and
it's
too
often
I
see
vehicles
that
are
going
through
and
no
don't
probably
don't
even
realize
they're
going
over
a
bike.
O
Ped
path
when
they're
making
that
transition
onto
onto
Arlington
Boulevard.
Y
That's
incredibly
helpful:
I
am
you
know
making
notes
and
you
can
hear
my
typing
about.
You
know,
spelling
that
out
as
as
clearly
as
we
can.
Y
We
did
request
a
debriefing
which
is
offered,
but
unfortunately
it
hasn't
hasn't
been
scheduled.
Yet
so
we're
gonna
have
to
go
ahead
and
do
it
without.
B
Anybody
else,
I
would
just
say,
I
ride
through
this
intersection,
every
single
time
that
I
bike
to
this
building,
for
instance
today
and
I,
treat
those
ramp
Crossings
with
extreme
caution,
because
especially
the
the
first
one
that
I
encounter
going
northbound,
because
all
the
cars
are
looking
to
the
left
for
their
merge.
B
They
are
not
looking
to
the
right
where
I
am
coming
from,
and
so
I
wait
until
I
have
very
obvious
eye
contact
with
a
car
before
continuing
the
other
thing
I
will
say
is
I
only
once
in
my
life
have
I
actually
seen
a
car
use,
the
the
northernmost
ramp
that
goes
from
westbound
Arlington
Boulevard
to
I,
guess
I
would
call
it
westbound,
Washington,
Boulevard
and
I
really
have
to
wonder
if
that
ramp
is
even
necessary
in
the
first
place
and
I
would
love
to
see
the
traffic
counts
on
that
movement
at
some
point.
B
B
All
right,
then,
I
moved
the
Transportation
Commission
recommend
that
the
County
Board
approve
an
application
to
the
safe
streets
and
roads
for
all
grant
for
the
Arlington
Boulevard
Washington
Boulevard,
interchange,
ramps,
number
one
and
two
second,
that's
been
seconded.
Hopefully
that
was
accurate
without
a
board
report.
It's
always
localizing.
Y
One,
my
apologies
I'm,
that's
I'm
sure
my
fault
I'll
be
happy
to
forward
it
to
miss
employer
who
can
share
it.
B
All
right,
but
I
I
think
I
got
the
gist
of
it
in
the
motion
and
it's
been
seconded
so
any
discussion,
then
we
will
move
to
a
vote.
Commissioner
Coleman
hi,
commissioner
Hussein
aye,
Richard,
Nolan
aye,
commissioner
Antonio
I,
can
make
sure
a
locker.
F
Y
Okay,
very
good
I'll
be
as
fast
as
I
can.
So
these
are
two
Transportation
Alternatives
in
Revenue.
Sharing
two
state
grants.
You've
heard
them
many
times
before
they
both
happen
on
two-year
Cycles.
We,
you
know,
bring
them
to
you
multiple
times.
You
know
every
every
cycle
grants
for
these
applications
are
not
due
until
Autumn,
but
pre-applications
are
due
June
30th,
so
we're
thinking
about
them
now
and
what
you
know
giving
you
a
sort
of
initial
chance
to
give
us
some
feedback.
Y
Transportation.
Alternatives
is
a
program
that
tends
to
be
used
for
like
by
compared
Trails
as
well
as
some
other
things
like
renovating
historic
train
stations.
Things
like
that
you
know.
Unfortunately,
the
amount
of
money
available
for
transportation
Alternatives
is,
is
very
small
and,
although
it's
not
necessarily
getting
smaller,
currently
you
know
projects
are
getting
more
expensive.
So
historically,
we've
been
able
to
get.
You
know,
maybe
one
million
dollars
here
and
there
for
transportation
Alternatives
projects
to
use
it
on
on
bike
ped,
you
know
projects
throughout
the
county.
Y
You
know
if
you
go
back
in
time.
10
years
ago
we
like
to
use
this
source,
for
you
know,
sort
of
mid-sized
bike
projects.
Sadly,
as
time
has
gone
on,
it's
gotten
harder
and
harder
and
harder
to
find
projects
that
fit
within
the
program.
Y
Call
the
converse
from
the
last
item
about
federalization
and
how
you
know
the
costs
of
doing
additional
planning
work
for
federalizing
a
project.
You
know
they.
They
can
approach
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
in
some
cases,
and
so
we
tend
to
not
want
to
do
it
unless
we're
getting
a
lot
of
money
at
the
calculation
of
the
money
that
we
get
and
try
and
turn
in
exchange
for
the
money
that
it
costs
to
do.
Y
The
Grant
and
the
oversight
of
the
grant,
as
it
happens,
and
the
decreasing
likelihood
that
we
will
get
a
grant
because
of
increasing
competition
throughout
the
state.
As
you
know,
more
and
more
localities
are
interested
in
these
types
of
projects
has
made
Transportation
alternative,
something
that
we're
we're
much
less
interested
in
pursuing
than
we
had
been
in
the
past,
and
our
recommendation
at
this
time
is
to
not
pursue
it
during
this
cycle.
You
know
if
there
are
additional
opportunities
for
more
money
in
future
Cycles.
Y
We
would
love
to
keep
an
eye
on
it.
Look
at
it
every
cycle,
and
you
know
sometimes
there
may
be
a
project
that
fits
within
the
very
narrowly
constrained
boxes,
but
this
year,
there's
just
not
so
I'd
like
to
take
a
step
to
the
side.
From
that,
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
Revenue
sharing
in
about
the
same
amount
of
time.
Y
Revenue
sharing
is
a
a
very
different
program.
Vdot
program,
not
federal
at
all,
which
is
one
of
its
key
benefits.
You
can.
You
can
use
State
money
for
it
and
never
have
to
federalize
project
this
cycle,
as
an
application
cycle
is
for
FY
27
to
28.
That's
right,
27
to
28.
They
like
to
program
this
money
early
and
the
program
provides
a
50
50
funding
split
to
localities
for
road
projects,
transit's
not
eligible
bike.
Y
Ped
projects
can
be
eligible
they're,
not
necessarily
what
VDOT
likes
to
fund
with
it,
but
we
do
like
to
throw
them
into
the
program
and-
and
you
know
see
what
VDOT
will
say
about
them.
So
we
are
currently
anticipating
three
pre-applications
in
Revenue
sharing.
It
is
a
fairly
easy
Grant
to
to
work
through.
That's
it's
just
much
more
flexible
than
Transportation
Alternatives.
So
the
three
that
we're
currently
anticipating
submitting
pre-applications
for
are
the
Fort
Myer
Drive
two-way
conversion.
Y
So
this
is
the
project
to
remove
the
tunnel
on
Fort
Minor
Drive,
behind
Roslyn
Metro
station
that
make
that
would
then
make
the
street
at
grade
and
two-way.
This
is
a
project
that
received
Revenue
sharing
funds
in
the
previous
cycle,
but
not
the
maximum
allowed.
So
we
want
to
basically
go
back
dip
in
again.
Y
Try
to
get
the
maximum
allowed
per
project,
I
neglected
to
mention
that
the
way
that
VDOT
prioritizes
projects,
if
a
project
has
received
Revenue
sharing
money
and
that's
their
highest
priority,
they
like
to
finish
projects
so
anything
that
we
can
finish.
That's
gotten
money
before
tends
to
do
very
well.
So
this
is
a
big
project.
Y
It
received
about
eight
million
dollars
on
a
previous
cycle.
There's
a
10
million
dollar
Max.
So
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
and
try
to
Max
that
project
out
second
project
that
we
would
like
to
submit
for
is
North
Sycamore
complete
streets
project.
This
is
the
project
to
basically
improve
the
bike
lanes
and
sidewalks
and
crosswalks
on
Sycamore
Street
right
outside
East,
Falls,
Church,
metro.
It's
also
a
previous
Revenue
sharing
project
had
money
in
previous
Cycles,
but
not
enough
to
complete.
So
you
know
we'd
like
to
go
in
and
add
some
more
now.
Y
We
think
that
should
be
a
winner.
Third
project
that
we
are
are
currently
looking
at
would
be
Arlington
Boulevard
Trail
at
Arlington
Hall.
So
this
would
be
a
new
project
to
improve
the
section
of
the
trail.
Basically
next
to
the
federal
Center
between
George,
Mason
and
Glebe-
and
you
know
this
was
so
this
would
be
a
new
project.
It
would
be
lower
likelihood
of
receiving
funding
than
the
other
two,
but
you
know
hopefully
we'd
be
able
to
get
our
foot
in
the
door
on
it,
at
least,
and
with
that
questions.
B
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
I
think
my
Transportation
Alternatives
question
is
I
feel
like.
In
the
past,
we've
sometimes
used
ta
to
get
just
additional
money
for
an
existing
project
that
had
already
been
federalized.
For
other
reasons,
is
that
something
you
looked
at
this
time
around
and
there
just
wasn't
something
that
that
fit
the
bill.
Yeah.
Y
Y
Would
very
quickly
rise
to
the
top
of
our
list
of
potential
items,
but
you
know
this
year,
given
the
timing
of
projects
and
the
prod,
you
know
the
the
ripeness
of
projects
when
they
need
the
money.
When
the
money
is
available,
what
level
of
planning
has
been
done?
We
just
don't
have
any
that
that
check
all
of
those
boxes.
At
the
same
time,.
W
Just
just
one
question
that
would
be
whether,
as
you
send
out
I,
know,
you're
sending
out
a
board
report
to
to
us
on
Arlington
Boulevard
and
Washington
Boulevard.
If
you
have
any
other
information
on
these,
that
you
could
provide
to
us,
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
just
so
that
we
can
have
it
for
the
future
and
start
to
think
about
it.
Y
Required,
okay
action
but
I
know
at
least
the
Sycamore
completely
Street
project
has
a
website
on
the
counties
is
on
the
County's
website.
I'd
be
happy
to
send
the
URL,
not
sure
if
Fort
Myer,
Drive
two-way
does
it
I
suspect
it
does
I
can
I
can
find
out
Arlington
Boulevard
Trail
we
may
have
to
we
may
have
to.
We
have
to
pull
some
information
out
of
our
office.
B
B
I'm
just
excited
to
see
money
continue
to
line
up,
hopefully
for
filling
in
the
Roslyn
tunnel,
because
that
is
a
Blocker
on
a
number
of
other
Street
improvements
that
should
be
coming
to
Roslyn
as
far
as
bike
facilities
and
Crossing
improvements
and
yeah.
It's
just
never
not
never
gonna
not
feel
like
a
highway,
while
that
tunnel
is
there
so
glad
we're
continuing
to
work
on
that
which
I
know
is
a
big
chunk
of
change.
B
X
All
right,
let's
shift
gears
to
MBTA
Regional
this
one.
The
applications
are
due
July
28th,
so
we
are
coming
this
evening
as
an
information
item
with
what
we're
thinking
about
for
it,
we'll
be
coming
back
next
month
for
Action
on
whatever
application
or
applications
we
are
carrying
forward.
X
If
you
thought,
Revenue
sharing
and
transportation
Alternatives
were
far
into
the
future.
This
application
round
is
for
fiscal,
28
and
29.
again.
Nvta
Regional
is
what
is
also
known
as
the
70
money
coming
out
of
the
northern
Virginia
Transportation
Authority.
X
X
X
X
X
As
I
said,
these
applications
are
due
July
28th,
the
the
Milestones
after
application
intake,
the
full
evaluation
and
public
comment
on
the
authorities
process
will
not
take
place
until
spring
of
calendar
year,
2024
with
approval
of
funded
program
in
July
of
2024..
So
it
is
a
you
know,
multi-year
plus
process.
From
start
to
finish,
we
are
looking
at
five
to
six
candidate
applications
to
apply
for
nvta,
regional.
X
X
I've
got
five
to
six,
but
some
of
them
are
more
tentative
than
others,
but
I
can
go
through
what
we're
looking
at
understanding
that
we're
still
double
checking
whether
or
not
these
are
a
good,
complete,
good
fit
for
this
program
and
their
ripeness.
But
what
we're
looking
at
right
now
is
a
second
request
for
the
CC
to
DCA
project
the
as
the
NEPA
and
design
process
goes
forward.
We
are
anticipating
the
cost
of
that
project
to
go
up.
X
We
do
have
18
million
dollars
in
existing
nvt
Regional
money
on
it,
but
we
are
proposing
to
potentially
go
back
for
more
we're.
Looking
again
at
the
Arlington
Memorial
Trail.
We
will
not
make
a
firm
decision
on
that
one
until
we
hear
back
from
our
pending
fiscal
23
raise
application
for
that
project,
which
will
be
come
in
before
the
end
of
June.
X
There
is
a
feasibility
study
being
conducted
looking
at
completion
of
the
trail
Gap
in
the
Washington
Old
Dominion
trail
near
East,
Falls
Church.
If
there
are
discrete
projects
that
can
be
put
forward
from
that,
we
will
consider
it.
But
again
that
is
just
a
feasibility
study.
X
Let's
see
the
courthouse!
Metro
elevator
improvements
looking
at
that
as
well
the
expansion
of
the
Shirlington
bus
station
that
will
be
contingent
on
coordination
and
the
collective
willingness
to
go
forward
with
the
city
of
Alexandria,
because
it
impacts
Dash
service
and
we've
coordinated
with
them
on
discussions
that
before
and
then
something
related
to
art
service
and
zero
Mission
bus
transition,
although
that
is
not
still
somewhat
abstract
at
this
point.
But
those
are
the
six
candidate
projects
that
we
are
looking
at.
X
Obviously,
if
Commissioners
have
others
that
they
think
are
worthy
of
consideration
for
nvt
regional,
please
share
them
with
Minnesota
vikoia
so
that
we
can
look
at
them
as
we
are
winnowing
down
ideas
and
bringing
forth
an
actual
recommendation
for
action
in
the
next
month.
X
A
Z
Hey
good
evening
Commissioners,
can
you
hear
me,
okay,
sure,
can
okay
good
well
good
evening
again.
My
name
is
Brett
Wallace
I'm,
with
cphd
planning,
Division
and
I'm
here
to
provide
an
update
on
the
food
study,
so
just
a
quick
overview
of
the
presentation
I'll
be
giving
this
evening
just
going
over
the
study,
purpose
and
goals
the
schedule,
some
of
the
existing
regulations
and
guidelines
for
outdoor
cafes,
background
on
outdoor
cafes
and
temporary
outdoor
seating
areas,
overview
of
the
community
engagement
and
then
some
preliminary
recommendations
and
then
next
steps.
Z
So,
just
looking
at
the
Timeline
we
we
launched
the
study
last
fall
when
the
county
manager
removed
the
emergency
order
and
last
fall.
We
started
phase
one
where
we
were
just
doing
information
gathering.
We
were
reviewing
the
temporary
outdoor
seating
areas
throughout
the
pandemic
and
how
they
were
working
and
looking
at
existing
policies.
Z
We
did
some
research
on
some
Benchmark
communities.
Other
cities
I
think
a
lot
of
towns
and
cities
Across
the
Nation
are
implementing
more
permanent
guidelines.
Following
the
pandemic
for
outdoor
cafes
and
dining,
we
had
Community
engagement
last
fall.
We
had
some
online
feedback
forms
where
we
received
over
2
000
responses,
which
was
really
good.
We
hosted
a
couple
of
virtual
Roundtable
events
as
well.
Z
We
got
some
good
feedback
that
I'll
go
over
in
a
minute,
we're
right
now
we're
kind
of
in
the
transition
phase
between
phase
two
and
phase
three,
where
we're
taking
our
findings
from
phase
one
and
developing
recommendations
as
part
of
a
draft
framework,
we
are
looking
at
some
additional
opportunities
for
open
houses
or
Roundtable
events
as
well,
but
we're
also
at
the
same
time,
moving
very
quickly
with
commission
review
as
we're
here
this
evening
and
really
mainly
focusing
on
any
potential
zoning
ordinance
amendments
for
outdoor
cafes
and
also
updates
to
The
Outdoor
Cafe
guidelines.
Z
We
are
looking
at
a
request
to
advertise
for
the
County
Board
in
June,
with
action
in
July
and
again
starting
to
to
go
to
a
bunch
of
commissions
over
the
next
month
and
a
half
and
just
want
to
note
on
the
far
right
you
can
see
the
the
temporary
outdoor
seating
program
will
be
ending
on
August
15th.
So
really
the
County
Board
action
in
July
is
critical
to
establishing
a
permanent
program
for
outdoor
dining.
Z
So
really
the
study,
purpose
and
goals
for
the
food
study
was
really
to
to
look
at
the
tosa
program
and
examine
and
evaluate
to
see
how
some
of
the
aspects
of
ptosis
could
be
incorporated
into
the
two
approval
pathways
for
outdoor
cafes
and
those
currently
are
buy
right
on
private
property
and
special
exception,
or
use
permit
for
the
public
right-of-way.
Z
In
the
beginning
of
the
study,
we
established
some
overarching
study
themes,
I'm
not
going
to
read
through
all
this
here,
but
essentially
looking
at
restaurants
as
a
public
good,
a
critical
component
of
active
mixed
use,
neighborhoods
looking
at
restaurant
recovery
and
resiliency
how
to
bounce
back
from
the
pandemic
and
some
of
the
losses
that
restaurants
experience
and
just
looking
at
different
places
and
spaces.
Understanding
that
not
all
not
all
streetscapes
and
outdoor
cafes
are
alike
and
that
they
vary
depending
on
location
and
the
context.
Z
So
just
quickly
I'll
go
through
some
of
the
existing
Cafe
regulations
and
guidance.
I
mentioned
earlier.
The
currently
outdoor
cafes
can
be
approved
on
private
property
administratively,
in
compliance
with
the
zoning
ordinance
and
then,
if
they're
in
the
public,
right-of-way
or
public
spaces,
they're
required
to
get
a
use
permit
approval
by
the
County
Board.
Z
Z
Other
regulations
that
we're
not
revisiting
that
provide
guidance
for
outdoor
cafes
on
accessibility,
for
example,
including
the
the
building
code,
the
fire
prevention
code.
We
also
have
the
ABC
code
Authority
on
alcohol
service
and
outdoor
cafes.
We
also
have
guidance
for
tents
and
heaters
in
the
outdoor
cafes
and
then
I'll,
be
speaking
a
little
bit
about
the
encroachment
ordinance
within
the
public
right-of-way,
which
is
something
that's
a
new
proposal
as
part
of
this
effort.
Z
So
just
starting
with
the
zoning
just
provide
the
definition
for
the
Outdoor
Cafe
here,
I'm,
not
going
to
read
that
I
think
most
folks
are
familiar
with
an
outdoor
Cafe
is,
but
it
is
important
to
note
that
outdoor
cafes
need
to
be
an
accessory
used
to
the
main
use
of
the
property
or
the
principal
use
of
the
restaurant
and
I
just
listed
some
of
the
private
property
news
standards
here,
just
to
kind
of
note,
some
of
the
requirements
in
the
zoning
ordinance
that
typically
all
outdoor
cafes
are
have.
Z
No
you
know,
fixtures
or
Furniture,
that's
permanently
affixed
to
the
ground.
Everything's
movable
and
the
cafe
cannot
be
enclosed.
Otherwise,
it's
considered
a
gross
floor
area
of
the
building.
There
are
also
restrictions
on
Sound,
audio
and
visual
entertainment,
and
also
that
the
Outdoor
Cafe
should
have
fewer
seats
than
the
indoor
portion
of
the
restaurant
and
those
two
last
bullets
can
be
modified
by
the
County
Board
by
use
permit
and
for
both
public
rights
away
or
easement
areas
for
public
use.
Again,
those
are
subject
to
the
use
permit
approval
by
the
County
Board.
Z
The
parking
ratio
for
restaurants
I
did
note
that
there
have
been
no
changes
since
1960,
and
this
is
one
parking
space
for
every
six
seats
that
are
inside
the
restaurant.
So
just
to
note
that
this,
the
parking
that's
required
for
restaurants
is
only
for
the
interior
portion
of
the
restaurant,
not
the
Outdoor
Cafe
itself.
Z
So
just
the
inside
seats.
Some
restaurants
are
Exempted
from
parking
if
they're
located
within
a
thousand
feet
of
Metro
and
the
County
Board
can
modify
this
by
use
permit
as
well,
and
this
kind
of
dates
back
to
the
the
RB
Corridor.
The
bullseye
concept
and
the
10
minute
walk
you
know
from
Metro
is
where
that
kind
of
stems
from
from
the
1970s
when
Metro
came
through.
Z
Z
The
Arlington
retail
plan
that
was
adopted
in
2015
encourages
outdoor
cafes
to
enliven.
Streetscape,
provide
activity,
provides
surveillance
on
the
street,
but
as
part
of
the
action
plan
for
the
retail
plan,
it
encouraged
a
administrative
license
process
to
use
to
to
for
the
private
restaurant,
to
use
the
public
right-of-way
and
called
for
a
any
potential
zoning
ordinance
amendments
to
come
along
with
that.
Z
As
a
short
long-term
action
item
and
I'm
going
to
speak
to
that
in
a
minute
when
I
talk
about
the
new
Outdoor
Cafe
license
that
we're
going
to
be
proposing
as
part
of
our
recommendations,
the
MTP
also
encourages
outdoor
cafes
and
also
notes
some
considerations
on
sidewalk
design,
particularly
at
Clear
zones,
where
they
note
that
six
feet
is
the
minimum
required
in
commercial
mixed-use
districts.
Z
However,
it
does
note
that
there
may
be
wider
streetscapes
and
wider,
clear
sidewalks
required
by
sector
plans
or
other
standards
or
site
plan
conditions,
for
example,
may
require
additional
clear,
sidewalk
width
above
the
six
foot
minimum.
Z
And
then
the
public
spaces
master
plan
includes
a
couple
of
goals
in
identifying
to
encourage
outdoor
cafes
in
some
public
spaces,
but
really
to
be
thought
of
early
on
in
the
process
when
designing
public
spaces
and
not
trying
to
retrofit
an
outdoor
Cafe
into
an
existing
outdoor
public
space.
Z
So
just
wanted
to
quickly
note
the
current
process
for
outdoor
cafes
in
the
public
space
or
public
right-of-way,
as
I
noted
before,
is
a
use
permit,
that's
approved
by
the
County
Board
it's
a
minimum
of
three
months,
and
this
is
due
to
having
to
meet
the
the
application
filing
and
advertisement
deadlines.
There's
typically,
staff
reports
and
typically
these
use
permits
are
on
the
County
Board
consent
agenda.
Z
The
use
permits
are
typically
approved,
with
site-specific
conditions
to
that
particular
Cafe.
There's
a
public
hearing
and
then
after
the
use
permit,
is
granted
by
the
board.
Then
the
applicant
has
to
apply
for
a
certificate
of
occupancy
and
a
building
permit,
if
needed
before,
installing
the
Outdoor
Cafe.
So
it
could
take
up
to
three
to
five
months
for
an
applicant
to
actually
have
an
outdoor
Cafe
installed
from
beginning
to
end.
Z
I'll
just
provide
a
quick
overview
on
the
temporary
outdoor
seating
areas.
These
were
established
in
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic
in
2020
to
help
restaurants
provide
expanded,
outdoor
dining
options
and
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
folks
who,
on
the
call
in
the
meeting,
have
seen
a
lot
of
these
applications
throughout
the
county.
They
were
very.
The
county
was
very
flexible
in
the
design
and
operation
guidelines.
We
created
a
an
easy
online
submission
process
that
was
free
with
no
application
fee.
Z
We
had
an
interdepartmental
staff
review
team
and
all
the
toses
were
approved
by
the
county
manager
and,
just
as
of
today,
we
have
approximately
145
toses
that
are
on
both
public
and
private
property
and
again,
just
noting
that
the
ptosas
are
set
to
expire
on
August
15th
just
wanted
to
provide
a
variety
of
photos
of
outdoor,
cafes
and
toses
kind
of
highlighting
maybe
some
of
the
key
issues.
We
have
some
cases
like
on
the
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen.
Z
The
two
images
there,
where
we
have
allowed
restaurants
to
take
over
the
entire
sidewalk
and
establish
pedestrian
circulation
pass
in
on
street
parking
Lanes
with
these
the
wheel
stops
and
the
flexible
bollers
in
some
cases,
handmade
accessibility
ramps
like
the
example
on
the
bottom
left
from
Campbell
Avenue
in
Shirlington.
You
can
see
some
of
these
other
examples
where
cafes
were
required
to
maintain
a
six
foot
minimum
clear
path,
but
depending
on
the
restaurant
manager,
for
that
particular
evening
or
staff,
have
further
expanded
these.
Z
So
they
we
see
a
lot
of
Cafe
creep
if
you
will,
where
they
just
kind
of
completely
take
over
creating
a
lot
of
pinch
points,
as
you
can
see
in
some
of
these
images
here
and
again
just
with,
in
addition
to
the
other,
Street
furniture
and
bike,
racks
and
scooters
and
other
Street
trees,
it
can
create
a
little
bit
of
a
hard
navigating
path
for
pedestrians
or
persons
with
disabilities,
and
you
can
see
in
some
of
these
examples
some
of
the
pinch
points
and
some
of
these
examples
here.
Z
Z
We
heard
a
lot
of
really
good
support
overall
support
for
the
ptosis
and
that
they
supported
restaurants.
During
the
pandemic,
everybody
enjoyed
the
outdoor,
dining
experience
and
live
in
the
streetscape.
However,
we
did
hear
a
lot
of
concerns
for
safe,
accessible
pedestrian
circulation
safety,
while
dining
in
streets
are
parking
spaces
that
the
congested
sidewalks
Ada
are
accessible
routes,
and
we
did
hear
some
support
for
the
reduction
of
parking
for
expanded
outdoor
dining
options
on
those
private
properties,
but
bottom
line.
Z
Just
some
of
the
the
feedback
that
we
heard
through
the
engagement
process
and
so
staff
has
developed
a
framework
with
some
key
work
elements
that
really
consist
of
these
three
elements
here.
Number
one
is
the
encroachment
ordinance
and
a
new
Outdoor
Cafe
license.
This
is
a
a
new
chapter
of
the
county
code
that
is
being
proposed
by
our
real
estate
Bureau
and
our
County
Attorney's
Office.
Z
This
kind
of
builds
off
of
the
recommendations
from
the
retail
plan
that
I
noted
earlier,
and
this
will
be
an
administrative
process
for
an
outdoor
Cafe
license
for
the
private
use
of
the
public
realm.
Z
There
would
also
be
an
application
and
a
fee,
and
this
is
something
that
a
lot
of
other
jurisdictions
are
are
doing
as
well.
The
second
key
item
is
the
zoning
ordinance
amendments.
So
we
are
looking
at
amendments
to
permit
outdoor
seating
in
public
spaces
through
the
administrative
path.
Z
We
also
are
including
some
objective
design
standards
in
the
zoning
ordinance
that
regulates
the
placements
of
the
outdoor
cafes
on
both
the
public
and
private
property,
and
then
we
are
including
a
provision
to
allow
the
County
Board
to
modify
parking
requirements
for
seats
that
are
located
on
private
parking
spaces
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
second
as
well,
and
then
the
last
item
is
the
County's
Outdoor
Cafe
guidelines,
we're
looking
to
update
those
as
well.
They
were
last
updated
in
2013..
Z
This
is
basically
like
your
all-in-one
document
that
will
include
everything
step-by-step
process
for
applicants,
the
permitting
process,
the
fees,
the
design
guidance.
You
know
notes
on
fire
building,
code,
tents
and
heaters.
So
this
is
like
a
one
page
or
not.
Maybe
like
a
dozen
Pages
actually
will
include
all
the
information
you
need
to
apply
for
an
outdoor
Cafe,
and
this
would
also
be
reflected
on
a
new
website
as
well.
Z
What
we're
not
including
any
revisions
of
part
of
the
framework
are
to
the
State
Building
Code
fire
code,
ABC
and
guidance
for
tension
heaters.
We
are
not
recommending
any
changes
to
these
policies
or
codes,
so
starting
with
the
different
types
of
outdoor
Capas,
starting
with
the
public
space.
Going
back
to
this
encroachment
ordinance
an
outdoor
Cafe
license
I
mentioned
this
is
a
new
county
code
chapter
to
permit
the
private
use
of
the
public
space
through
administrative
review.
Z
There
will
be
application
fee
license
fee,
that's
based
on
the
cafe
square
footage,
and
they
would
also
need
to
comply
with
the
zoning
ordinance
and
any
other
relevant
County
codes,
and
these
recommendations
that
are
being
brought
forward
will
be
concurrent
with
the
the
timeline
that
our
staff
is
on
in
terms
of
bringing
this
to
the
County
Board
in
June
for
the
RTA
in
action
in
July
and
again
just
looking
at
outdoor
cafes
in
the
public
space.
Looking
at
a
streamlined
administrative
review
process,
no
use
permit
required
in
our
research.
Z
Looking
back
in
a
five-year
span,
we
noted
only
an
average
of
five
use
permits
were
approved
per
year
with
an
average
of
six
renewals.
I
mentioned
the
three
month
plus
process
the
public
hearing,
and
then
the
cost
for
a
use
permit
are
at
a
minimum,
two
thousand
dollars,
plus
any
additional
cost
for
the
applicant.
Z
So
again,
we
really
feel
the
administrative
review
process
will
streamline,
reduce
costs,
time
resources
for
staff
and
improve
the
enforcement
and
inspection
process
by
having
an
annual
renewal.
We'll
have
the
opportunity
to
go
out
and
inspect
the
cafe
to
make
sure
that
it's
still
in
compliance
with
what
was
approved
on
the
license
and
then
the
proposed
zoning
ordinance
amendments
would
require
a
building
permit
and
certificate
of
occupancy.
If
needed,
it
would
require
an
outdoor
Cafe
license
and
again
comply
with
relevant
County
codes.
Z
We
are
including
use
standards
in
the
zoning
ordinance,
including
a
six
foot
minimum
clear
sidewalk
unless
otherwise
approved
by
site
plan
or
use
permit.
So
there
may
be
cases
where
you
may
have
a
wider
sidewalk
requirement
and
in
those
cases,
those
applicants.
If
they
wanted
to
reduce
it,
they
would
need
to
go
and
get
a
site
plan
Amendment
or
use
permanent
Amendment
approved
by
the
County
Board,
and
we've
done
that
on
a
number
of
cases.
Z
Recently,
we're
also
including
requirements
for
detectable
barriers
or
diverters
for
the
visually
impaired,
to
kind
of
demarcate
the
Outdoor
Cafe
and
then
also
including
standards
for
the
location
of
the
cafe,
with
relation
to
the
the
main
restaurant
so
moving
quickly
to
outdoor
cafes
on
private
property,
like
the
image
that
you
see
here
on
this
slide
that
are
using
private
parking
spaces
for
outdoor
cafes,
you
can
see
in
this
example
just
down
the
road
on
Wilson
Boulevard,
the
Roadside
Grill.
Z
Z
Z
We
are
currently
not
recommending
changes
to
the
parking
section
of
the
zoning
Ordnance,
as
we
have
noted
that
we
may
need
additional
time
for
a
future
study
to
look
at
zoning
ordinance
regulations
for
commercial
parking
as
a
whole,
not
just
for
restaurants,
so
looking
at
all
commercial
land
uses
and
parking
ratios
that
probably
there
are
many
of
them
that
probably
need
Revisited
that
we're
not
able
to
accomplish
in
in
the
next
month
and
a
half,
but
we
do
notice
something
that
we
could
look
at
in
the
future.
Z
So
we
are
expecting.
Applications
could
be
filed
following
the
County
Board
adoption
in
July
I
mentioned
the
10
doses
that
would
be
impacted
by
using
parking
and
the
design
standards.
Z
Z
We're
also
going
to
a
number
of
other
commissions
like
park
and
rec
pedestrian
advisory,
Economic,
Development
and
again
the
County
Board
RTA
is
scheduled
for
June
10th,
and
that's
going
to
be
both
the
zoning
ordinance
amendments
and
the
encroachment,
ordinance
and
fee
schedule
before
going
to
Planning,
Commission
and
County
boarding,
July
and
just
there's
a
link
to
the
the
food
study
website
and
my
contact
information.
If
anybody
has
any
questions,
so
that's
all
I
had
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Wallace
I
will
just
say
right
on
the
outset,
I'm
glad
to
see
we're
finally
going
to
look
at
commercial
parking
ratios
at
some
point
because
in
my
experience,
they're
all
made
up
and
they
were
made
up
60
years
ago
and
we
haven't
touched
them
since
so
glad
to
see
that's
moving
forward.
B
Z
Yeah
so
currently,
over
the
past
few
years
and
you
some
you've
seen
in
some
of
the
pictures
I
showed
earlier,
the
only
enforcement
was
really
complaint.
Driven.
If
somebody
complained
and
said
you
know,
then
our
zoning
staff
would
be
able
to
go
out
and
do
an
inspection
and
do
enforcement
to
bring
them
into
compliance,
and
that's
really
the
the
ultimate
goal
is
that
we
want
to
work
with
applicants
to
bring
everybody
into
compliance.
We
don't
want
to
shut
shut
people
down.
Z
We
want
to
keep
the
business
open,
but
I
think
with
the
proposed
Outdoor
Cafe
license
that
administrative
process
is
a
license
and
a
fee
that
includes
an
annual
renewal.
So
I
do
know
that
our
our
staff
are
committed
to
going
out
and
doing
inspections
when
the
cafe
is
installed,
but
then
doing
an
inspection
whenever
that
Cafe
is
up
for
renewal.
Z
So
we
do
see
that
as
an
improvement
for
enforcement,
and
then
there
is
in
the
encroachment
ordinance
in
the
Outdoor
Cafe
license.
It
is
permitted
that
some
low
fences
or
barriers
that
are
below
30
inches
could
be
bolted
to
the
sidewalk,
provided
that
they
can
be.
You
know
capped
and
refilled
to
a
flush
condition
if
the
cafe
is
removed.
So
there
are
some
allowances
to
to
kind
of
secure
some
of
those
barriers
so
that
they
don't
move
and
create
pinch
points
like
some
of
the
examples
I
showed
earlier.
Z
So
that
is
one
allowance
as
part
of
the
license.
B
Thanks,
that's
great
to
hear
because
yeah,
while
I
understand
why
the
county
has
legal
concerns
about
permanent
cafes
in
the
outdoor
in
public
space,
you
know,
setting
that
fence
once
and
securing
it
really,
you
know
helps
is
the
best
way
to
fight
that
that
Cafe
creep
so
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
that's
we're
moving
in
a
direction
where
something
like
that
is
is
possible.
Other
commission
questions
or
comments.
L
So
not
so
much
I,
guess
kind
of
a
question,
but
not
zoning
related
and
not
directly
Transportation
related,
but
looking
through
the
Outdoor
Cafe
guidelines,
which
is
supposed
to
be
like
a
One-Stop
shop
for
for
people
that
are
looking
to
do
these
outdoor
cafes
and
the
principals,
and
also
the
listing
of
other
regulations
for
outdoor
cafes.
L
Something
I
don't
see,
I
don't
know
if
this
would
be
relevant
for
this
particular
case,
but
codes
for
dogs
in
outdoor
spaces
I
know
the
FDA
just
a
few
weeks
ago,
updated
their
regulations
in
their
food
code
for
dogs
in
outdoor
food
spaces.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
warrants
some
kind
of
mentioned
in
our
guidelines
here
or
at
the
very
least,
as
sort
of
a
justification
or
reasoning
for
outdoor
spaces,
since
that
is
a
big
reason
why
people
want
to
go
to
outdoor
dining
options.
U
Z
We
hadn't
hadn't
considered
that,
but
do
know
that
it
is
a
very
popular
thing
to
do
and
we'll
take
that
back
and
and
look
to
that
guidance
from
the
FDA
that
you
mentioned
and
see
how
best
it
could
be
incorporated
into
the
design
guidelines,
even
if
it's
just
a
reference
but
yeah.
Thank
you.
Q
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
that
commercial
parking
study
and
was
really
wondering
when
that
would
occur.
I
just
it
just
seems
that
you
know
we're
moving
forward,
which
makes
makes
absolute
sense
that,
to
you
know
to
to
waive
that
requirement
for
the
outdoor
seating,
but
as
applicants
are,
are
planning
into
designing
indoor
spaces.
It
seems
like
we'd,
be
missing
the
boat
here.
If
we
don't
get
on
this
com
on
this
study,
because
we
may
be
requiring
more
parking,
that's
really
not
than
really
necessary.
Q
That
could
be
used
for
something
else.
So
I
just
wanted
to
just
re
reiterate
the
importance
of
getting
the
study
done
two
and
was
wondering
if,
if
you
have
that
in
the
plan
already
and
when
we
can
anticipate
seeing
that.
Z
Yeah,
no
thank
you.
It's
not
currently
in
the
cphd
work
plan,
so
I
we
don't
have
a
timeline
for
initiation
of
such
a
study
it
it's
just
something
that
we
noted.
That
certainly
should
be
studied,
but
we
knew
that
we
didn't
have
time
to
accomplish
that.
Looking
at
all
commercial
parking
ratios
as
part
of
this
study,
we're
mainly
focusing
on
on
the
restaurants
and
the
outdoor
cafes,
but
we'll
consider
providing
more
detail
on
any
kind
of
future
study
at
the
at
the
next
meeting.
M
Commission
tell
me
yeah
I'd
like
to
follow
along
with
commissioner
or
Locker
in
and
chair
slat
on
this
with
the
parking
study.
This
has
come
up
regularly:
a
Transportation
Commission
we're
looking
at
a
new
use
or
a
particular
use,
and
then
the
parking
comes
up
and
no
one
can
ever
raise
any
reason
why
the
particular
ratio
exists
in
the
first
place.
This
came
up
with
daycares.
M
It's
come
up
with
the
the
the
you
know,
streamlining
streamlining
zoning
with
like,
for
example,
with
Urban
agriculture.
When
the
parking
ratio
was
raised,
it
made
no
sense
whatsoever,
it
didn't
seem
it
was
pulled
out
of
thin
air.
We
really
rather
than
waiting
for
a
study
which
you're
right
it's
going
to
take
years,
because
if
it's
on
the
cph
work
plan
now
that
means
waiting
at
least
another
cycle
for
it
to
even
be
considered.
M
It's
not
going
to
happen.
Probably
in
our
lifetimes.
We
really
should
be
looking
at
each
when
it
comes
up
each
use
and
making
the
decision
that
this
doesn't
make
any
sense
either
kill
it
or
drop
it
or
you
have
have
somebody
make
a
reason
why
they
want
the
number
and
then
Grant
it
rather
than
going
through
a
study.
It's
not
going
to
happen,
there's
so
many
more
things
going
on
right
now
that
are
going
to
take
priority
on
it
that
I
really
strongly
recommend.
B
Cool
I
will
just
add
on
as
someone
who
has
who
owns
a
business,
a
two
businesses,
actually
that
this
is
always
the
a
nagging
fear.
You
sign
a
lease
and
you
think
that
the
you
have
signed
a
lease
for
a
property
that
has
an
amount
of
parking
that
will
satisfy
the
zoning
administrator.
But
you
don't
actually
know
when
you
sign
the
lease.
If
you
have
successfully
leased
a
property
that
has
enough
parking
to
make
the
zoning
administrator
happy,
it
is
one
of
those
existential
risks
that
drives
entrepreneurs
crazy.
B
Are
we
going
to
when
we
submit
for
our
building
permit
and
it
has
to
go
through
to
the
certificate
of
occupancy?
Is
somebody
going
to
come
back
and
say:
nope
can't
approve
this,
you
don't
have
enough
parking,
it's
it's
a
low
information,
high
risk
thing
and
it
it
kills.
Small
business,
so
I
have
a
particular
distaste.
M
For
it,
it
also
potentially
kills
historic
properties.
Anything
built
before
World
War
II,
almost
by
definition,
doesn't
have
enough
parking
for
whatever
use
you
think
of.
If
we
really
want
to
preserve-
and
this
came
up
with
with
the
information
item
on
the
new
historic
preservation
plan
coming
up,
if
you
really
want
to
preserve
older
buildings
and
and
have
adaptive,
reuse
then
do
what
other
cities
have
done.