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A
Good
evening,
everyone
today
is
thursday
april
28
2022,
and
we
are
here
at
the
monthly
transportation
commission
meeting
and
we
are
all
joined
virtually
my
name
is
bridget
obicoya
and
I
am
the
transportation
commission
staff
liaison
this
meeting
is
being
recorded.
So
I
ask
that
you
please
turn
off
your
mics
when
you
are
not
speaking
and
before
we
start
with
the
agenda.
A
B
C
Yes,
all
right,
thanks
for
the
affirmation,
um
I
am
happy
to
be
here
for
second
round
of
capital
projects
with
the
neighborhood
complete
streets,
commission-
and
I
am
joined
tonight
by
our
fabulous
chair
and
former
tc
commissioner
elisa
ortiz,
who
I'm
actually
going
to
ask
to
begin.
Our
presentation
tonight.
D
D
uh
So,
uh
as
michelle
said,
my
name
is
elisa
ortiz,
uh
I'm
the
chair
of
the
neighborhood,
complete
streets,
commission
um
and
I've
been
chair
since
2017
um
and
so
really
excited
to
have
been
here
with
the
commission
as
we
enter
our
second
funding
round
for
full
capital
projects.
uh
So
michelle
I
can
see
the
presentation,
but
it's
not
at
like
full
screen.
um
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to.
If
you
want
to
leave
it
that
way,
that's
fine!
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that.
D
So
for
those
who
um
may
be
a
little
less
familiar,
um
the
neighborhood
complete
streets,
uh
commission
and
program
has
been
around
officially
since
2014,
um
and
our
focus
uh
is
on
improving
safety
and
access
on
neighborhood
streets.
So
that's
critical.
We
only
focus
on
neighborhood
and
local
streets
not
on.
D
So
tonight
we
have
a
few
projects
um
to
share
with
you,
but
first
I'll
just
quickly
tell
you
that
the
last
round
of
uh
last
funding
hearing
round
that
we
had
was
in
well
the
board
approved
the
projects
in
july
2020.
So
I
believe
this
commission
probably
saw
them
in
june
2020,
uh
and
so
that
was
seventh
road
south
in
arlington
mill,
which
is
now
complete.
D
um
It
looks
fantastic,
encourage
you
to
drive
by
it
um
and
then
uh
13th
street
south
in
douglas
park,
which
is
right
near
my
house
um
and
uh
just
broke
ground
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
is
um
deep
into
construction
um
and
it's
gonna,
be
you
can
sort
of
see
a
picture
there
that
michelle
has
on
the
slide.
It
was
not
a
great,
not
not
a
great
street
condition
for
anybody
who
was
doing
anything
besides
driving
a
car,
um
so
we're
gonna
build
some
sidewalks
and
do
some
good
stuff
so
excited
about
that.
C
We
will
retain
on-street
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
street
and
we
are
working
in
this
case
within
existing
constraints,
including
topography,
which
is
like
requiring
retaining
walls
on
the
west
side
of
the
street
and
existing
utility
pools
on
the
east
side
of
the
street.
This
project.
First,
we
began
working
on
in
2019.
C
We
kind
of
had
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
a
little
bit
and
we
have
come
up
with
a
slightly
different
design,
a
little
bit
wider
um
with
the
blacking
uh
removal
of
the
um
uh
utility
strip.
Sorry
blankenlord
and
we
had
to
re-engage
with
the
community,
which
we
have
done
extensive
engagement
between
the
two
phases,
but
we
now
have
a
project
that
we
would
like
to
move
forward
with.
C
This
project
was
ranked
number
two
on
our
list
with
52
points,
for
a
variety
of
reasons
that
elisa
has
mentioned,
including
proximity
to
schools,
columbia,
pike,
corridor,
um
it's
a
designated
bike
route
and
um
it's
also
close
to
other
civic
points
of
interest.
There's
a
library
and
whatnot.
So
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
this
neighborhood.
C
This
is
a
section
of
road
that
has
a
bus
transit
route
that
traverses
on
it
right
in
front
of
the
gunston
bubble
and
in
the
pr
in
close
proximity
to
gunston
middle
school
and
oak
ridge.
Elementary,
the
project
scope
is
to
replace
existing
transit
stops
with
new
and
improved
ones.
That
also
will
narrow
the
roadway
due
to
their
alignment
and
proximity
that
putting
the
two
stops
uh
side
by
side
across
the
street
from
each
other,
which
should
have
a
traffic
calming
influence
through
that
bit
of
narrowing
strategically.
C
E
C
You
pointing
that
out,
I
am
working
with
only
my
laptop
tonight.
I'm
usually
have
multiple
screens,
so
I
can't
see
any
of
you
and
that's
okay.
Thank
you
very
much,
I'm
glad
aaron.
I
can
do
a
real,
quick
backwards
to
share
the
image
a
little
bit
larger
for
irving
street
um
and
I
obviously
will
take
questions
as
well
as
we
go
better
at
the
end.
C
C
By
the
time
the
vehicle
has
reached
the
pedestrian
crossing,
it's
actually
just
starting
to
really
truly
straighten
the
vehicle.
So
there's
some
visibility
issues
for
pedestrians
in
this
location
that
were
identified
as
a
concern
and
also
it
helps
to
offset
um
any
potential
parking
loss
with
these
two
uh
bump
outs
such
that
we're
actually
adding
a
little
bit
of
parking
across
from
the
park.
C
So
that's
the
basic
um
scope
of
the
this
particular
project.
uh
We
hope
it
will
have
a
traffic
calming
influence,
that's
certainly
the
intention
and
to
provide
a
more
comfortable
crossing
to
the
park.
I
wanted
to
add,
too
that
the
park
has
since
been
renovated,
since
these
three
pedestrian
crossings
were
put
in
and
where
you
um
that
the
one
crossing
that
we
would
be
removing
and
consolidating
to
improved
two
other
crossings,
there's
actually
a
fence
all
along
that
portion
of
the
park.
C
Given
that
part
of
the
reason
this
one
ranked
was
because
of
um
crashes
with
injuries
in
the
area,
so
definitely
seeking
for
some
safety
improvements
here
and
then
we
have
one
very
small
remaining
project
on
ninth
street,
a
very
ugly,
uh
not
accessible
portion
of
sidewalk
and
a
driveway
apron
at
the
att
building
right
behind
the
career
center,
which
we
have
been
working
directly
with
the
property
owners
to
rectify
in
our
smallest
project.
In
this
uh
funding
round.
This
one
was
also
on
our
top
10
number,
seven
on
our
list
with
44
points.
C
So
all
of
these
projects
ranked
highly
because
of
a
history
of
crashes,
with
injury
most
with
injuries
as
well
and
the
activity
indicators
in
the
area
of
how
much
is
going
on
what
that's
sort
of
how
we
prioritized
these
uh
four
projects
before
I
move
on.
Are
there
any
questions
on
any
of
the
projects
or
any
need
to
go
back.
C
G
Yeah
uh
sure
this
jim
land
telling
me
um
yeah,
I
had
one
question.
I
think
it
was
gunston
street
um
when
you
had
that
picture
up
there
of
the
overhead,
the
other
side
of
the
street,
where
you're
not
building
it.
It
looks
like
a
couple
of
the
houses
actually
do
have
sidewalks
already
in
front
of
them.
Oh.
C
H
C
B
C
C
Utility
strip
we've
ended
up
with
a
little
bit
greater
width
to
work
with
those
the
competing
kind
of
goals
of
maintaining
of
uh
following
the
mtp
versus
um
there.
We
go
versus
what
the
fire
code
asks
for,
which
is
actually
20
feet,
so
we're
still
not
quite
achieving
the
their
id.
You
know
that
ideal
for
fire
response,
but
we
are
able
to
make
it
a
bit
wider
for
them.
B
Cool,
so
just
let
me
summarize
to
make
sure
I've
only
understood
the
previous
design
was
a
five
foot
sidewalk
and
then
a
two
and
a
half
foot
utility
strip
and
all
of
the
no
parking
signs
and
street
lights
and
that
sort
of
stuff
would
have
been
located
in
the
two
and
a
half
foot
utility
strip.
The
current
design
is
a
six
foot
sidewalk,
but
all
of
that
other
stuff
ends
up
blocking
a
portion
of
the
sidewalk
wherever
it
exists.
Right.
C
C
Thank
you
so,
just
as
a
picture
of
our
funding,
all
of
these
projects
are
being
funded
through
um
old,
cip
money
that
was
dedicated
to
the
program
to
spend.
We
um
are,
they
total
a
million
six
hundred
thousand
six
one
million
six
hundred
thousand
six
hundred
and
seven
seven
dollars
six.
I'm
messing
this
up
beyond
belief,
but
we
it's
all
available
program
funds
already,
not
accounting
for
any
additional
funds
that
would
come
for
fiscal
year
23.,
which
starts
in
july.
C
That
was
a
tough
slide.
So
in
our
process
we
are.
We
have
we
really
one
of
the
projects
we
started
in
2019,
but
our
re-engagement
on
that
one
and
engagement
on
the
other
three
we
did
through
the
winter
february
march
of
this
year
we
had
a
spring
funding
hearing
with
the
commission
who
voted
to
approve
or
to
recommend
all
four
of
these
projects.
C
E
I'm
so
I'm
just
going
to
say
um
as
a
as
a
representative
of
our
transportation
commission
on
this
on
this
commission
um
as
well.
um
There's
been
really
good
conversation
um
heads
off
to
alisa
and
michelle
for
guiding
us
through
this
process
in
our
funding
discussion
last
week,
so
really
fully
endorsed
uh
these
particular
projects
um
and
and
hope.
The
transportation
commission
will
either
ask
great
questions
or
go
ahead
and
recommend
them
to
the
board.
B
All
right
great,
thank
uh
fantastic
presentation,
uh
great
projects,
great
program,
um
big
fan,
um
but
I
do
wanna
talk
a
little
more
about
the
fire
code
um
because
it
comes
up
all
the
time.
In
um
often
it
seems
like
it's
neighborhood
complete
streets
that
brings
to
us
these
fire
code
issues.
um
So
I
think
my
first
question
is
actually
for
uh
miss
ortiz,
um
so
you've
come
to
us
before
with
a
letter
that
we
supported
to
the
county
board
about
these
fire
code
issues.
B
um
I
I
know
this
irving
street
project
was
one
of
the
ones
that
was
kind
of
a
trigger.
For
that
letter.
um
It
is
nice
to
see
it
moving
forward.
I
will
say
the
design.
I
would
call
a
strict
downgrade
from
a
pedestrian
standpoint.
um
Do
you
feel
like
the
fire
code
issue
has
been
resolved
or
that
we've
just
sort
of
one-off,
muddled
our
way
through
on
this
project?
And
it's
going
to
come
back
again.
D
It
definitely
hasn't
been
resolved.
um
There
is
not
a
firm,
you
know,
policy
statement
um
from
the
county
uh
about
the
issue
other
than
following
the
fire
code,
which
calls
for
the
20
foot
clear
with.
um
So
I'm
also
really
excited
that
we
finally
got
this
irving
street
project
off
the
ground,
because
obviously,
we've
been
working
on
it,
um
you
know
on
and
off
in
the
neighborhood.
D
You
know
was
expecting
it
a
couple
years
ago,
um
and
you
know
it's
certainly
it
might
have
been
the
first
that
we
ran
into
a
big
problem,
but
it
won't
be
the
last
I
mean
most
of
the
reason
that
streets
get
ranked
very
highly
on.
Our
list
is
one
of
two:
either
crashes
uh
that
and
especially
crashes
that
involve
injuries
and
or
a
lack
of
sidewalks
um
on
at
least
one
side
of
the
street,
so
inherently
building
sidewalks
almost
always
is
going
to
run
into
street
with
considerations
where
a
sidewalk
didn't
exist
previously.
D
So
no,
unfortunately,
um
we
never
did
get
a
response
to
the
letter
um
that
we
sent
to
the
county
board
uh
never
got
a
response
from
the
county
board
directly.
So
no
the
issue
is
unfortunately
not
yet
resolved.
We're
just
going
to
keep
trying
to
push
through
and
get
projects
approved
if
we
can,
um
while
also
continuing
to
strongly
encourage
the
county,
to
clarify
their
position
on
this.
J
Hey
hey,
my
mic
works
excellent.
um
I
just
actually
want
to
say.
Congratulations,
ms
stafford,
commissioner
ortiz.
Commissioner
bros,
I
mean
fantastic
work.
I
it's
really.
I
think
complete
streets
should
be.
How
do
I
say
this
more
pervasive
throughout
the
county?
uh
I
it
should
be
policy.
This
shouldn't
even
be
a
discussion
and
no
offense.
I
don't
even
think
there
should
be
a
commission
for
it.
I
think
it
just
should
happen
everywhere.
um
Come
to
my
neighborhood,
you
want
to
talk
about
incomplete
streets
and
crazy
streets.
J
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
price.
um
So,
commissioners,
um
I'm
inclined
to
move
the
that
we
support.
All
these
projects
recommend
that
the
board
move
them.
um
I
also
think
it's
imperative
that
we
take
this
opportunity
to
flag
the
fire
code
issue
for
the
county
board.
Yet
again,
um
they
clearly
just
need
to
hear
from
us
some
more
um
and
maybe
that'll
finally
move
the
ball.
B
um
You
know
because,
in
my
opinion,
that
two
and
a
half
utility
strip
um
was
going
to
do
a
lot
of
work,
um
it
was
going
to
be
that
place
first
notice
it.
um
You
know
it
was
going
to
be
that
that
place
to
make
sure
that
all
those
you
know
sign
poles
and
street
lights
um
were
not
infringing
on
the
uh
on
the
clear
with
um
it
was
going
to
be
some
some
uh
pervious
surface,
um
that
water
could
actually
flow
down
through
um
and
that
sort
of
thing.
um
So
I
really
think
this.
B
Why
it's
so
important
um
and
in
fact
I've
seen
a
neighborhood
conservation
presentation
from
arlington
d.o.t
and
the
fire
department
from
like
10
years
ago,
that
basically
said
like
hey,
you
got
20
feet
of
clear
with
every
place,
there's
a
driveway,
and
so
you
can,
you
know,
extend
the
legs
on
your
fire
truck
any
place.
There's
a
driveway
on
this
street.
You've
got
more
than
20
feet
in
those
spots,
and
so
why
are
we
making?
You
know
our?
B
You
know
not
building
sidewalks
or
not
having
a
place
for
snow
to
go
um
in
order
to
meet
this
requirement.
So
uh
I'm
in
the
opinion
we
should
be.
We
should
be
tacking
on
something
to
our
recommendation
um
about
the
fire
code,
uh
but
I
will
stop
talking
because
I
see
commissioner
lane
tommy's
hand
up
so
go
ahead.
Commissioner
land
told
me.
G
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
totally
support
everything
you're
saying
the
fire
code,
I
think,
is
very,
very
narrowly
focused.
It
does
not
take
into
account
the
trade-offs
of
having
wide
streets,
especially
in
residential
neighborhoods,
which
encourages
cars
to
go
faster,
which
is,
of
course
less
safe
for
pedestrians
and
for
the
residents
there.
G
I
and
I
agree
with
commission
chair
slat,
I'm
not
sure
I've
ever
seen
anything
convincing.
That
says
it
does
not
work.
In
fact,
we
have
these
streets
that
are
already
yield
streets,
that
the
fire
department
has
been
able
to.
U
been
able
to
provide
services
on
for
decades
since
they've
been
laid
out,
so
I
don't
understand
why
all
of
a
sudden,
we
can't
have
them
anymore
or
we
can't
create
them
anymore.
G
um
You
know
if,
like
I
said,
they're
they're
in
various
places
in
this
country,
if
the
some
of
the
best
neighborhoods
in
in
our
country,
if
they
got
leveled
by
a
tornado,
you
couldn't
rebuild
them
under
the
fire
codes
anymore,
um
even
though
they're
the
highest
priced
places
in
these
cities.
So
anyway,
I
fully
support
this
and
I
think
we
should
continue
to
be
banging
the
strum
with
the
county
board.
Thank
you.
B
E
D
While
you're
doing
that,
chairman,
slash
thought,
I'd
offer
one
tiny
piece
of
historical
perspective
on
the
fire
code,
which
is
that
the
two
previous
county
managers
prior
to
our
current
county
manager,
both
uh
essentially
waived
uh
the
fire
code
requirement
in
terms
of
street
width,
which
means
that
it
is
not
only
possible.
But
it
has
been
done
before
so.
B
J
H
F
B
H
K
Sure
can
you
hear
me
sure,
can
great
fantastic,
well,
hello.
Everyone
uh
thank
you
for
having
me
here.
This
is
very
exciting.
My
name
is
tom,
shannon
um
my
day,
job
is
with
the
american
red
cross,
but
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
within
transportation
and
have
a
background
in
what
may
or
may
not
be
the
infamous
dockless
bike
share
startup
schemes
at
the
beginning
here
in
dc,
but
with
that
very
motivated
help,
and
uh
I'm
glad
to
be
here.
A
K
M
M
We
have
representatives
from
grove
slade,
which
is
our
transportation
consultant,
vmdo,
our
architect
and
um
gordon.
Our
civil
engineer,
so
they're
I'll
be
I'll,
be
focused
uh
to
do
our
presentation
this
evening,
uh
but
they
are
uh
an
indispensable
part
of
this
team
and
they
will
be
assisting
in
the
q
a
so
if
you
could
give
me
a
moment
to
get
my
screen
share,
going.
B
M
M
M
So
in
summer,
in
summary,
since
uh
this
facility
opened
in
2019,
the
heights
building
has
been
functioning
under
in
interim
condition.
This
was
due
to
the
site
being
selected
as
the
temporary
home
for
arlington
county
fire
station
10,
while
it
was
being
constructed
in
the
adjacent
development
that
temporary
fire
station
has
since
been
removed.
M
We
expect
construction
to
begin
sometime
later
this
this
year
in
the
fall
and
extend
through
next
calendar
year,
uh
just
for
a
familiarity
of
the
two
conditions.
On
the
left
hand,
side,
the
interim
condition
identifies
what
the
site
looked
like
from
the
facility
opening
until
the
temporary
fire
station
was
removed,
the
the
school
had
access
to
a
temporary
field,
a
natural
grass
field,
and
since
the
the
fire
station
was
removed
that
field
that
natural
gas
grass
field
has
been
extended
uh
to
um
to
quinn
street.
M
The
project
has
a
a
very
extensive
history
dating
back
almost
10
years,
as
mentioned
it
was
part
of
the
western
rosslyn
area,
planning,
study
and
I'll
hit
a
couple
of
highlights.
uh
As
we
go
along
here
um
in,
let's
see
in
april
of
2015,
our
our
building
project
began
in
concept
design.
It
was
that
was
a
soon
after
I
joined
aps
in
continuing
forward
the
timeline
february
of
2017.
M
M
M
And
lastly,
just
a
a
point
of
comparison.
The
the
egress
points
from
the
field
itself
in
2017.
We
had
two
uh
and
subsequent
conversations
with
code
officials.
uh
We've
uh
doubled
that
because
of
the
the
amount
of
people
that
are,
that
could
potentially
be
on
the
field
and
being
able
to
safely
exit
those
individuals
to
a
public
right
of
way
so
uh
relative
to
tdm.
M
So
our
just
before
the
pandemic
started,
we
had
launched
our
our
regular
aps
go
survey
which
included
surveys
across
to
get
both
staff
members
and
students
drive
mode
selections
that,
since
it
was
launched
around
essentially
right
before
aps,
had
closed
because
of
the
pandemic.
It
was
eventually
canceled,
um
somewhat
related
to
tdm.
In
march
of
last
year,
the
county
board
approved
amendments.
M
So
turning
to
the
18th
straight
I'll
review
the
existing
conditions
and
then
go
through
the
the
the
two
options
being
uh
being
considered
so
at
both
arrival
and
dismissal,
18th
street
is
closed
um
to
to
any
traffic
that
is
not
aps.
Bus
related
and
and
currently
aps,
buses
use
between
quinn
street
and
the
big
block
crossing
uh
to
to
disembark
and
pick
up
the
students.
M
This
image,
on
the
right
hand,
screen
sort
of
shows
it
in
action
in
diagram
form.
What
operationally,
what
we've,
what
we've
done
is
is
to
identify
double
stack.
The
buses.
There
are
two
programs
at
this
facility.
uh
Hb
woodlawn
is
a
is
an
option.
uh
High
school
county-wide
option,
high
school
and
the
shriver
program
is
a
is
a
a
a
program
dedicated
to
students
with
severe
disabilities.
M
M
So
in,
in
summary,
the
the
the
differences
of
the
sidewalk
configurations
are
kind
of
identified
here,
uh
as
mentioned,
we,
after
conducting
our
observations,
doing
a
data
collection
for
the
mmta
talking
to
staff
talking
to
our
transportation
folks,
the
initial
proposal
that
had
a
um
a
tree
strip
and
a
clear
sidewalk
just
was
not
sufficient
to
accommodate
these.
These
functions
in
these
operations,
it's
a
very
specialized.
It's
a
it's.
M
M
The
um
the
shriver
program.
Buses
are
disembarking
picking
up
directly
off
of
the
of
the
sidewalk.
The
wheelchair
lifts
require
about
four
four
feet
um
in
width,
in
addition
to
sort
of
a
uh
space
for
the
wheelchairs
to
to
come
off
of
the
ramp
uh
they're
they're
they're,
not
side,
loaded,
they're
front
loaded.
uh
So
that's
in
you
know
four
foot,
plus
the
space
to
exit
and
maneuver,
which
uh
is
which
we
in
this
proposal
we're
essentially
exchanging
the
parking
lane
for
that
extra
maneuverability.
M
M
M
This
is
another
section
sort
of
taken
a
little
further
east
of
the
of
the
property,
and
something
you
may
notice
is
that
the
height
of
the
structure
reduces
in
height
as
you
move
to
the
east
because
of
the
grade
change
so
again.
This
is
uh
this
is
the
the
proposed
solution
where
the
parking
lane
is
essentially
removed
and
permitted
to
have
this
uh
boarding
in
a
lighting
zone
and
then
likewise,
this
is
uh
the
the
alternative
which
uh
which
allows
for
a
15
foot,
um
clear,
sidewalk,.
M
M
One
of
the
principal
uh
issues
our
our
project
is
seeking
to
solve.
Is
the
the
uh
shriver
pick
up
a
drop-off
for
uh
for
students
who
require
a
little
bit
extra
time
or
space
to
to
navigate
from
a
from
a
vehicle
to
a
major
building
entrance
at
aps's
expense?
We
we
constructed
uh
three
signed
uh
fully
accessible
spaces
on
north
quinn.
M
So
our
our
structure
uh
resolves
that
by
providing
nine
uh
accessible
spaces,
uh
two
of
which
are
van
sized
uh
and
then
likewise
for
the
ada
parking.
There's,
there's
sort
of
a
mishmash
of
ada
parking
in
the
existing
condition,
and
we
resolve
that
by
providing
those
parking
in
our
in
our
underground
structure
related
to
long-term
staff
parking.
So
these
are
staff
that
are
kind
of
coming.
M
For
really
as
it
stands,
there's
no
real
place
for
staff
to
have
short
term
leading
loading
on
for
unloading
if
you're
a
staff
member
that
are
parked
sort
of
blocks
away
at
a
at
the,
and
you
want
to
drop
off
some
materials.
There's
there's
really
not
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
that.
uh
Our
our
facility
does
uh
provide
some
some
ability
to
meet
that
and
meet
that
need
uh
for
visitor
parking.
Currently,
um
we
we
have
a
total
of
100
spaces
in
the
aubrey
garage.
As
I
mentioned,
90
are
for
staff.
M
uh
One
thing
that
uh
that
was
may
seem
small,
but
it's
been
uh
really
important
in
practicality-
is
maintenance
access
and
facilities
for
parcels
at
the
site.
We
have
a
very
small
loading
dock
right
behind
the
7-eleven
and
we
don't
have
a
great
solution
for
our
maintenance
staff
who
need
to
regularly
uh
visit
and
service
the
building.
So
we
are
accounting
for
some
dedicated
spaces
in
the
in
the
um
structure.
M
So
this
is
the
the
layout
of
the
the
structure
and
graphic
form
uh
this
zone
right
here
is
a
is
a
covered
entrance
to
the
g1
level
area,
right
adjacent
to
the
shriver
administrative
area,
adjacent
with
that
covered
area,
our
class
50
class
2
bicycle
spaces
identified
for
visitors
and
students.
All
of
those
bicycle
spaces
are
covered.
M
A
couple
of
other
key
components
of
the
job
is
that
so
keynote
6
is
an
outdoor
outdoor
equipment
storage.
That's
a
requirement
at
all
of
our
facilities
to
have
a
place
to
store
materials
that
is
not
inside
the
inside
the
building
itself.
So
this
project
does
accommodate
that
and
there's
a
very
large
storm
water
vault
that
was
deferred
from
our
phase
one
construction
because
of
conflicts
with
the
adjacent
uh
construction
of
the
adjacent
development.
M
The
next
images
are
a
series
of
renderings,
all
the
all
the
renderings.
uh
Please
keep
in
mind
that
represent
our
proposed
condition.
uh
So
that's
that's.
What
you'll
see
is
the
the
proposed
condition
along
18th
street
that
removes
the
the
parking
lane.
So
this
is
a
view
from
uh
north
quinn
and
18th
street.
M
They
sort
of
have
the
our
operational
movable
barrier
identified
with
a
staff
member
assisting
to
uh
prohibit.
You
know
unauthorized
vehicles
from
from
entering
18th
street
at
that
time.
This
is
the
covered
entrance.
It's
not
it's!
It's
such
a
gracious
of
a
slope.
It's
not
even
technically
a
ramp.
It's
just
an
inclined
surface.
That
gently
goes
down
to
the
uh
to
the
garage,
the
g1
level.
M
M
M
M
All
right
a
couple
of
comments
on
the
construction
phase,
so
um
the
no
doubt
this
this
project
is
is
more
complicated
and
more
costly
because
of
separating
into
two
phases.
uh
Not
only
do
we
have
to
keep
the
build,
we
we
have
to
keep
the
building,
functional
and
open
during
construction,
uh
so
we're
we
have
some
some
complexities
around
that
and
also
some
some
costs
related
to
just
general
uh
market
escalation.
M
L
L
uh
The
eastern
edge
is
a
pedestrian
walkway
linear
park
that
was
created
as
part
of
the
wraps
uh
plan
and
overall
developments,
um
and
I
I
do
want
to
congratulate
uh
ben
and
his
staff
for
delivering
um
a
very
marvelous
uh
phase,
one
for
the
heights
building
and
a
a
building
that
the
county
should
be
very
proud
of
and,
and
we
hope
is
serving
the
schreiber
students
and
the
hp
students
very
well
now
that
it's
uh
got
a
full
year
of
school
under
its
belt
belts.
I
think
just
some
background
information.
L
Previously
approved
and
delivered
elements
arlington
county
approved
the
raps
plan
in
2015.
It
then
approved
the
uh
the
bulk
of
the
development
within
the
planning
area
in
2017
at
a
marathon
county
board
meeting
the
county
board.
uh
The
only
item
with
standing
was
this
phase
two
development
of
um
the
wilson,
I'm
sorry
the
the
the
heights
uh
formerly
the
wilson
school,
but
now
it's
called
the
heights.
I
need
to
get
my
binocular
correct.
L
It
was
regraded
and
made
wider
to
support
the
broader
community
and
a
new
north
pier
street
was
constructed
uh
in
addition
to
this
um
major
bicycle
infrastructure
among
these
were
added
along
wilson
boulevard
along
with
uh
transit
amenities,
and
uh
there
were
some
improvements
along
uh
north
quinn
street.
uh
So
it's
it's
very
remarkable
that
we
are
here
today,
almost
uh
five
years
after
the
approval
of
um
of
this
plan
and
we're
seeing
this
community
uh
at
its
at
its
youth
and
hopefully
will
be
maturing
into
a
wonderful
portion
of
uh
western
raza.
L
L
Those
students
are
part
of
the
hp,
woodlawn
secondary
program
and
the
eunice
kennedy
shriver
program,
which
supports
students
11
to
22
with
special
needs.
um
In
addition
to
the
um
the
parking
that's
being
discussed
in
this
uh
action,
uh
the
county
board
uh
um
acquired
and
um
uh
has
has
now
gotten
control
of
a
hundred
off-site
parking
spaces
which
are
within
the
aubrey
garage.
L
The
upper
garage
is
ostensibly
adjacent
to
the
site
uh
and
has
a
dedicated
elevator
from
the
g1
level,
where
aps
users
park
up
to
the
surface
level
where
they
can
directly
enter
in
the
school.
In
many
ways,
this
is
considered
in
zoning
terms
as
off-site
parking,
but
with
its
proximity.
It
is
um
just
approximate
to
the
school
as
many
parking
spaces
at
other
aps
facilities,
albeit
below
grade
during
the
hearing
in
2017.
L
The
county
board
deferred
uh
approval
of
the
phase
two
development
uh
in
order
to
uh
request
that
aps
uh
do
a
parking
study
to
analyze
the
demand
and
justify
the
construction
of
the
additional
on-site
parking
that
is
proposed
as
part
of
this
project,
with
phase
two
and
aps
has
done
that
with
the
mmta
document,
which
they
show
you
and
I'll
go
through.
As
some
of
that,
as
we
uh
talk
about
the
issues
which
staff
has
identified.
L
In
our
analysis,
um
if
you
haven't
been
along
wilson
boulevard
to
see
this
beautiful
building,
uh
this
is
one
of
the
original
renderings
and,
uh
with
the
exception
of
some
blinds
drawn,
uh
it
is
very
similar
to
what
you
see
here,
and
hopefully
the
the
trees
and
um
the
trees
and
plantings
on
the
roof
will
continue
to
grow
and
eventually
look
as
they're
shown
here.
um
This
is
a
rendering
of
the
rear
of
the
site.
L
uh
This
shows
the
field
at
the
175
elevation
that
this
is
studied
with
the
2017
approval,
but
that
that
field
and
was
ultimately
not
approved
at
that
time,
and
here
we
are
back
at
the
project.
um
Specifically
this
phase
ii
development
is
looking
at
a
61
space
garage,
that's
partially
below
grade
uh
above.
That
is
a
synthetic
turf
field
um
that
will
support
activities
of
the
school
and
when
the
school
isn't
using
it,
hopefully
support
uh
community
use.
L
um
In
addition,
uh
one
of
the
major
elements
to
the
the
project
is
that
covered
walkway
from
the
corner
of
18th
and
quinn
street,
which
uh
gradually
transitions
to
the
the
shriver
program
grade,
which
is
the
I
think
it's
called
the
b1
level
um
of
the
building,
and
so
that
provides
a
covered
access
point.
It
also
provides
staging
space
for
uh
students
that,
in
wheelchairs
and
uh
with
other
mobility,
needs
to
wait
if
they
need
to
wait
for
the
buses
to
arrive
in
the
afternoon
or
throughout
the
day,
as
ben
discussed.
L
This
hp,
this
entrance
is
principally
for
hp,
but
it
does
support
all
users
and
um
after
my
presentation,
then
please
correct
me.
If,
if
this
entrance
is
not
um
an
access
point
for
schreiber
students
and
teachers
also,
should
they
need
to
arrive
from
the
east,
um
as
as
we
look
at
what
the
county
board
asked
aps
to
do
in
evaluating
the
parking
demands
of
the
school,
the
county's
really
looked
at
two
mtp
policies
to
consider
and
help
guide
our
consideration
of
this
project
uh
policy.
L
Six
in
the
curb
space
management
element,
uh
which
is
to
ensure
that
the
minimum
parking
needs
are
met
and
excessive
parking
is
not
built.
Divert
resources
saved
by
reducing
excess,
off-street
parking
to
other
community
benefits
and
policy
number
13
to
provide
travel
options
for
persons
with
disabilities
through
reserve,
access
to
curb
space
and
and
dedicated
off-street
parking
uh
with
enforcement.
L
L
L
L
um
We
should
note
that
there
are
also
30
off-site
spaces
which
were
utilized
this
time.
Aps
was
not
able
to
collect
um
specific
data
on
that.
So
um
in
our
assessment,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
saying
that
the
max
staff
demand
for
for
parking-
uh
and
this
is
just
the
staff
and
teachers
as
they're,
principally
the
the
users
supported
by
the
aubry
garage
in
aps's
management
plans
a
day
their
peak
demand
is,
is
about
115
spaces
that
peaks
at
about
11
o'clock
midday
um
in
the
garage.
L
L
Demand,
isn't
the
only
thing
that
we
should
really
look
at
look
at
specifically
when
we're
looking
at
policy
number
13
in
the
mtp,
which
focuses
on
access
for
um
for
disabled
users
uh
and
with
that
in
mind,
aps
looked
at
the
curve
at
the
utilization
of
the
three
uh
adag
compliance
bases
that
was
recently
constructed
along
north
quinn
street
um
and
and
monitored
the
utilization
of
that
and
and
who
was
using,
that
uh
this
graph
shows
um
the
light.
Green
is
aps
use
uh
for
pickup
and
drop
off.
L
um
This
garage
would
provide
nine
additional
spaces
to
prevent
um
the
progress
garage
uh
would
would
largely
provide
a
higher
level
of
service
um
as
it's
sheltered
and
directly
adjacent
to
the
shriver
entry,
then
either
the
the
aubrey
garage
which
might
be
further
away,
but
still
sheltered
or
the
on-street
spaces
which
um
may
be
adjacent
to
the
site.
But
um
are
are
not
uh
covered,
uh
and
so
there's
there's
certainly
some
pros
and
cons
to
look
at
here.
L
um
The
first
issue
really
uh
is
the
issue
of
the
width
of
18th
street
uh
18th
street
is
already
built.
It's
built
with
a
seven
foot
travel
parking
lane
on
the
north
side
of
the
street,
at
two
11
foot
travel
lanes
and
a
nine
foot
ride
um
parking
lane
on
the
south
side
of
the
street
adjacent
to
aps
facilities.
L
This
nine-foot
parking
lane
was
designed
uh
specifically
to
support
um
aps
bus
via
bus
parking
throughout
the
day
uh
and
also
um
other
aps
uses
that
might
occur
outside
of
the
arrival
and
dismissal
period,
um
and
so,
with
this
proposal
that
aps
has
put
forward
narrowing
the
street.
um
What
we
found
is
that
now
that
aps
has
has
unified
the
bell
times
for
the
shriver
program
and
the
ap
and
the
hb
program
um
there's
a
significant
number
of
buses
that
would
be
within
the
closed
street
uh
during
arrival
and
departure.
L
So
we
recommend
that
uh
the
project
at
18th
street
maintain
its
width.
This
is
a
cross-sectional
drawing
of
the
proposed
street.
um
The
challenge
with
maintaining
the
width
is
that
the
streetscape
proposed
by
aps
um
largely
took
advantage
of
the
space
within
that
existing
parking
lane
to
provide
this
22-foot
line
street
skate.
L
All
right,
the
next
issue
that
that
staff's,
really
identified
um
on
on
this
aps
plan
is
that
the
garage
entry
as
proposed
and
there
really
isn't
an
alternative
location
for
the
garage
entry
at
aps,
um
presents
an
added
level
of
complication
uh
for
the
the
safe
um
ordinance
of
18th
street.
uh
Twice
a
day
during
the
arrival
departure
periods,
uh
this
garage
location
will
require
aps
staff
to
not
only
keep
vehicles
from
coming
in,
but
also
triage
vehicles
that
are
arriving
and
determine
whether
or
not
they
should
be
uh
utilizing.
L
The
garage
and
entering
18th
street
that
entry
of
18
speed
um
will
then
vehicles
will
would
then
presumably
conflict
with
driver
students
going
into
the
main
entrance
uh
and
potentially
other
uh
students
walking
along
18th
street.
For
this
reason,
staff
recommends
that
um
a
significant
operation
plan
be
developed
by
aps.
L
L
What
we
we
stress
this
principally
because
arlington,
county
police
and
arlington
county
uh
des
staff
do
not
have
the
resources
to
to
manage
uh
the
operations
and
closure
of
18th
street
um
twice
daily,
uh
and
so
it
is.
It
is
critical
that
aps
um
develop
this
culture
of
safety
for
the
safe
operations
of
18th
street
and
and
we're
recommending
um
and
and
can
seem
to
work
with
aps
on
developing
a
condition
around,
um
requiring
both
the
plan
and
staffing
of
that
plan
to
support
the
programs
here
at
the
heights
building
and
with
clay's
food.
L
um
The
next.
The
next
challenge
that
staff's
identified
is
is
really
the
the
field
elevation
and
how
that
impacts.
Both
the
the
feel
of
18th
street.
Its
connection
to
um
the
the
field's
connection
to
rosenhan
park
um
aps
is
proposing
an
elevation
of
180
for
the
field.
This
is
generally
consistent
with
the
elevation
of
the
first
level
of
the
hp
program
here
and
would
provide
a
pretty
a
pretty
interesting
flow
between
the
school
and
the
field.
L
L
L
Should
the
garage
program
be
advanced,
um
the
county
manager
is
uh
his.
His
recommendation
is
still
under
consideration
that
we
are
looking
forward
to
the
discussion
and
input
of
our
advisory
commissions
uh
as
we
prepare
to
defense
as
we
can.
He
prepares
to
bring
a
recommendation
forward
to
the
county
board.
um
Mr
slatter,
I
respect
your
conversation
earlier
about
an
easy
motion
and
I
apologize
for
uh
certainly
not
making
this
an
easy
motion
for
you.
um
Just
a
quick
rundown
of
the
community
engagement.
L
L
Today
we
had
a
uh
parks
commission
meeting
on
and
I
have
a
typo
there
on
the
19th
uh
and
then
we
go
to
the
planning
commission
on
the
second
um
and
the
county
board
is
scheduled
to
hear
this
on
may
14th,
um
and
I
thank
you
for
uh
sitting
through
a
very
lengthy
and
uh
detailed
presentation.
I
I
will
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
N
And
so
we
understand
you
know
some
of
the
questions
and
stuff
that
were
raised
tonight.
But
but
again
it's
not
about
the
number
of
parking
spaces
or
too
many
parking
spaces.
It's
about
the
right
parking
spaces
in
the
right
place
and
having
that
garage
that
has
that
direct
accessibility
for
students
and
families
and
even
staff.
You
know
who
come
to
that
building
at
all
times
during
the
day
is,
should
be
the
priority.
N
N
That
said
the
accessibility
piece
was
was
important.
So
um
that's
really
all
I
wanted
to
just
say,
and
I
really
hope
that
that
is
still
the
priority
for
the
commission,
the
board.
I
know
it's
a
priority
for
aps
and
for
the
families
who
really
rely
on
access
to
education
and
access
to
the
same
facilities
that
you
know
others
have
access
to.
So
thank
you.
So
much
for
the
time.
B
M
M
All
right,
commissioners
slide:
can
you
confirm
you
see
the
screen
now
sure
excellent?
Thank
you
all
right.
So,
um
as
as
ms
hunter
mentioned,
I
mean
accessibility
is
a
primary
driver
of
this
project,
and
so
we
consider
not
just
the
uh
the
accessibility
that
the
the
below
grade
structure
and
the
parking
affords,
but
also
the
access
to
the
field
itself.
So
what
what
aps
did
when
we
began
designing
this
project?
M
M
So
our
decision
to
locate
the
field
at
180
elevation
was
in
consideration
of
designing
this
as
a
field
that
supports
the
school
function.
First,
uh
as
opposed
to
the
alternative
which,
if
we,
if
we
were
required
to
reduce
the
field
elevation,
we
would
have
to
navigate
occupants
from
that
level
down
to
down
to
the
field
in
presently.
What's
the
runoff
zone
here,
uh
the
the
field
as
striped
is
the
minimum
um
field
size
in
our
memorandum
of
agreement
with
deep
uh
with
the
county.
M
M
uh
The
elevation
uh
permits
us
to
reduce
our
our
amount
of
excavation
uh
and
reduce
the
the
sheeting
and
shorting
required
to
support
this
this
project
and
and
uh
save
some
costs
there.
It
also
allows
the
uh
the
garage
to
be
naturally
ventilated
if
this
was
to
to
sort
of
be
sunk
into
the
ground.
Further,
uh
it's
likely
we'd
have
to
transition
to
a
mechanically
ventilated
garage
system
which
would
sort
of
have
urban
design
side
effects
that
um
or
consequences
that
might
not
be
certainly
aren't
fully
understood
at
this
at
this
present
time.
G
This
county
is
long
actively
discouraged
above
ground
parking,
especially
when
it's
designed
like
this
right
up
against
the
street
without
an
activated
activated
um
street
presence.
The
this
just
doesn't
work
under
our
comprehensive
plan.
um
It's
just
not
something
that
from
a
design
viewpoint
from
an
urban
design
viewpoint
would
ever
make
it
through
the
process
if
this
was
a
private
developer.
G
That
said,
I'm
also
wondering
why
looking
at
18th
street,
which
is
actually
a
fairly
short
street,
and
until
this
project
or
any
of
the
projects
around
this
area
was
a
really
minor
street
that
didn't
even
have
sidewalks
for
a
big
chunk
of
it.
um
It
was
a
very
odd
street
for
a
very
dense
environment.
G
G
G
G
There's
really.
I
would
rather
see
as
repurposed
18th
street
for
all
of
aps's
purposes.
For
this
site
see
how
many
spaces
we
can
get
there,
how
we
can
have
the
bus
pick
up
and
drop
off
the
function
as
best
as
they
can
widen
the
sidewalks
great
make
it
more
pedestrian
oriented,
and
you
can
certainly
still
build
at
the
quinn
street
side,
a
proper
access
as
necessary
for
shriver
school,
both
vehicular
and
covered
to
move
the
children
from
from
18th
street
down
into
the
building.
G
J
um
I
actually
he
hit
the
nail
on
the
head.
I
want
to
associate
myself
with
commissioner
tillman's
comments.
um
I
actually
uh
also
I
want
to
appreciate
aps's
presentation
appreciate
mr
gibson's
presentation,
always
very
eloquent
speaker.
I
appreciate
his
his
presentation,
but
I
also
don't
understand
the
challenges
that
he
presents
that
and
how
they
want
them
to
be
resolved.
I
I
guess
I
don't
really
even
understand
what
the
county's
position
is.
You're.
H
J
J
If
this
could
be
a
car
free
street,
I
would
say
fantastic.
I'm
not
too
concerned
about
the
elevation
of
the
field.
The
only
thing
I'm
concerned
about
in
the
field
is
the
use
of
synthetic
turf.
That
is,
frankly
speaking,
the
only
thing
I'm
concerned
about.
I
really
wish
this
weren't
a
synthetic
field.
J
L
These
elements
were
calculated
with
the
overall
projects,
um
stormwater
management
mode,
and
um
we
we
believe
that
aps
can
continue
to
to
meet
the
um
quantity
and
quality
controls
uh
required
by
the
the
chesapeake
bay
ordinance
with
with
the
construction
of
the
project.
um
I
think
there
was
a
second
question
about,
uh
and
this
might
go
back
to
mr
lantomy's
question
about.
You
know:
why
is
staff
presenting
this
this
way?
In
many
ways
staff
is
presenting
this
way
because
our
charge
is
to
analyze
projects
against
our
established
uh
plans
and
policies.
L
L
L
The
wraps
plan
really
transforms
this
neighborhood
with
the
build-out
that
we've
seen,
there's
probably
1500
new
residents
within
this
area.
uh
You
know,
there's
the
700
seats
of
educational
use
here,
there's
the
the
multiple
public
uh
parks
that
need
support.
um
Typically,
those
are
supported
with
uh
with
our
our
transportation
network
and
the
parking
uh
therein.
L
B
M
All
right,
this
screen
should
be
shared
uh
shared
now.
So,
as
mr
gibson
stated,
there's
there's
uh
as
part
of
the
this
joint
development
here,
there's
a
there's
a
cut
through
park
uh
that
extends
all
the
way
from
18th
street
to
wilson
boulevard,
uh
and
so,
if
uh
there's
there's
a
few
different
accesses
to
the
field
um
from
from
this
area,
uh
there
there's
sort
of
uh
uh
it
slopes
it
gently
slopes
up
as
you
walk
to
the
south.
M
So
at
the
point
of
the
building,
um
the
corner
of
the
building,
there's
sort
of
an
inact
grade
access
to
the
field
at
this
area
down
here
at
the
midpoint,
there's
there's
two
means
of
access
to
the
field.
There's
uh
there's
stairs
up,
there's
also
a
ramp,
uh
the
switchback
ramp
that
carries
up
to
the
field
and
then,
lastly,
at
the
corner
uh
sort
of
here
on
18th
street,
there's
the
stair
access
to
the
to
the
field.
M
M
M
B
M
O
Yeah
hello:
this
is
this-
is
rob
shiesel
from
grove
slade.
um
There's,
probably
I
I
on
our
site
visits
and
talking
around
with
staff.
I'd
say:
there's
two
issues
with
the
current
bike
parking
one:
there
is
some
short-term
bike
parking
racks
on
the
wilson
street
frontage
uh
near
hp,
woodlawn.
I
know
we've
got
some
photos
of
that
in
the
appendix
um
they're
roped
off
um
and
when
we
talked
to
staff
they
said
that
they
cannot
um
recommend
any
students
park
there
because
of
theft
concerns.
O
That's
what
we
heard
when
we
talked
to
the
woodlawn
staff,
we're
on
our
site
visits
yeah,
that's
the
photo.
The
second
is
on
the
the
other.
Part
of
this
slide
is
there's
another
set
of
bike
racks
that
are
just
honestly
difficult
to
get
to
and
we
did
not
see
any
use
of
them,
whereas
we
there
was
a
whole
set
of
racks
closer
to
the
woodlawn
entrance.
There
were
pretty
full
and
that's
actually
the
next
slide
in
this.
O
um
So
what
we
think
um
the
uh
the
covered
bike
parking
spaces
we
think
uh
create
a
place
where
we
would
think
there'd
be
less
issues
of
theft,
considering
where
they're
located
and
uh
and
be
covered.
So
I
think
they'd
be
pretty
desirable
parking
spaces
for
students
of
both
programs
to
use
um
in
the
covered
area
and
and
would
help
um
provide
more
spaces,
because
these
racks
aren't
actually
that
far
from
the
roped
off
racks
or
just
in
a
slightly
less
visible
area.
B
Thank
you
yeah.
I
think
the
new
class
one
spaces
are
great
they're
located.
You
know
the
same
place
that
staff
come
in
if
they're
parking
in
the
garage
um
aren't
the
new
covered
class.
Two
spaces,
though
pretty
much
in
the
same
spot
as
the
existing
racks
that
are
hard
to
get
to
and
nobody
ever
uses.
O
They're
not
physically
that
much
different,
but
if
you're
standing
on
the
sidewalk
and
you're
looking
at
those
spaces
and
thinking
of
how
you're
going
to
get
your
bike
over
there,
you
know
you're
more
likely
going
to
just
lock
your
bike
to
the
railing
and
not
venture
into
there.
I
think
the
new
spaces
are
going
to
be
just
a
lot
easier
to
walk
into
they'll,
be
covered,
they'll,
be
near
one
of
the
main
entrances
to
the
school,
and
I
think
it'll
just
be
a
lot
more
desirable.
L
M
I'm
glad
you
asked
the
question:
rob
the
the
the
distinction
that
we're
making
is
that
this
this
entrance
is
adjacent
to
the
shriver
administrator
of
area.
It's
not
exclusive
to
the
schreiber
program.
It
is.
It
is
a
major
building
entrance
for
the
facility,
uh
and
so
I
think
to
to
mr
schiezel's
uh
comments.
The
proximity
and
the
convenience
of
those
those
covered
spaces
uh
are
likely
to
be
attractive
to
to
any
any
student
that
facility
um
the
it's
it's
one
building
that
has
two
programs
existing
within
it,
and
so
we're
not
intending
for
that.
M
E
Thanks,
sir
chairman
sled,
um
so
just
a
point
of
clarification
because
it
seemed
to
me
the
way
that
it
was
presented
around
the
parking
was
a
lot
of
ada
parking
and
and
meeting
some
requirements
or
or
needs
of
the
on
the
part
of
the
um
the
student
population.
um
But
commissioner
erlin
tell
me
is
really
unhappy
with
what
what's
been
designed
and
I'm
I'm
just
not
understanding
why.
I
don't
understand
the
county's
requirements
that
he's
unhappy
with.
G
Sure
um
the
county
has
policies
against
having
structured
parking
at
ground
level.
um
Generally,
we
really
want
to
have
parking
be
below
ground
unless
there
are
problems
with
the
subsurface,
for
example,
if
it's
all
rock
you'll
notice
like
in
rosalind
the
structured
parking
where
it
exists,
is
in
the
upper
stories.
G
But
the
ideal
is
it's:
it's
surrounded
by
active
uses.
You
know
offices,
apartments
whatever
or
it's
otherwise,
somehow
screened
or
shielded,
but
on
the
ground
level
by
the
sidewalk
it's
just
never
allowed.
um
There
should
not
be
parking
at
ground
level.
That's
for
active
uses.
um
You
know,
stores,
lobbies,
residences
um
offices,
but
not
parking.
G
So
you
know
the
first
choice
is
below
ground.
Second
choice
is
above
the
first
story,
but
never
at
ground
level,
and
that's
been
consistent
um
in
every
project
that
I've
seen,
and
I
can't
think
of
one
um
that
has
been
built
recently
that
that
allows
that
type
of
parking.
That
goes,
of
course,
for
simply
surface
parking.
You
know
just
throwing
down
asphalt
on
the
street
um
on
the
ground.
E
G
E
F
G
Yeah
or
or
as
I
suggested,
maybe
we
can
accommodate
virtually
all
of
that
parking
on
18th
street
if
it
gets
turned
over
to
aps
and
we
bar
other
parking
there,
it
becomes
aps
either
property
or
aps
controlled,
um
it
becomes
aps
can
decide
who
parks
there,
which
presumably
would
be
staff,
and-
and
you
know
there,
there
are
other
uses-
um
it's
a
long
story.
It's
a
it's,
it's
not
a
through
street,
but
it
isn't
just
simply
half
a
block
long
um
that
might
be
able
to
take
care
of
a
good
chunk
of
it
plus.
G
We
also
have
parking
next
door
in
the
aubry
um
another
rental,
rental,
nearby
or
right
right,
adjacent
to
the
building,
as
mr
gibson
pointed
out,
it's
just
as
close
as
other
parking
and
other
aps
sites.
So
we
have
lots
of
structured
parking
up
and
down
the
corridor.
We
don't
really
need
to
build
more.
E
L
I
just
didn't
want
to
make
this
clear.
I
don't
know
if
I've
said
it
or
and
and
ben's
presentation
I'd
ask
you
to,
as
you
present
this
in
the
future,
please
be
clear
that
the
county
intends
to
continue
uh
supporting
aps
with
the
hundred
spaces
in
the
auburn
garage,
which
has
its
level
of
management,
and
then
aps
here
is
proposing
a
second
garage
um
that
is
is
within
their
property
limits.
uh
That
would
provide
the
additional
61
spaces,
which
would
be
another
garage
and
access
point
to
manage.
um
That's
just
a
point
of
reckoning.
B
B
B
Which
this
was
the
pedestrian
experience
that
I've
been
expecting
on
18th
street
right.
You
can
see
a
little
bit
down
into
the
garage,
that's
fine,
but
you
can
also
see
the
activity,
that's
happening
on
the
field
and
you
can
see
the
building
and
I'm
just
not
convinced
at
this
point
that
that
that
any
of
those
things
are
going
to
be
true
with
a
five
foot
higher
field
elevation.
B
um
You
know
I
feel
like
if
you're
walking
along
18th
street,
it's
just
going
to
be
you
hanging
out
having
a
party
with
all
of
the
cars
down
in
the
garage
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
see
what's
happening
on
the
field,
you're
not
going
to
have
much
of
a
view.
If
any
of
this
you
know
beautiful
and
possibly
most
expensive
school
building
in
the
entire
commonwealth
of
virginia.
B
um
So,
like
you
know,
if
the
if
aps
is
trying
to
save
money,
I
would
save
it.
You
know,
by
limiting
the
amount
of
dirt
that
they're
excavating,
I
would
recommend
doing
that
by
not
adding
the
general
purpose
long-term
staff
spaces
in
the
garage,
not
by
not
digging
down
five
feet.
um
I
am
100
supportive
of
the
of
the
shriver
entrance.
I'm
100
supportive
of
the
um
you
know
in
the
garage
ada
spaces.
I
am
largely
supportive
of
the
loading
and
unloading
spaces
of
the
spots
for
maintenance
and
personal
delivery.
B
um
I
have
no
particular
feeling
that
aps
really
needs
to
be
building
just
more
staff
spaces
in
this
garage,
so
if
that
is
a
way
to
save
money,
that
is
what
I
would
recommend
and
not
this
five
foot
field
elevation
um
and
like
with
aps
coming
to
us
on
a
regular
basis.
I
think
the
next
example
coming
up
is
going
to
be
the
career
center
um
with
a
short-term
plan
and
no
long-term
plan
and
saying
trust
us.
It
will
all
turn
out
fine
in
the
long
term.
B
P
I
appreciate
the
comments
from
everyone
if,
if
this
were
to
be
reconsidered
and
delayed,
how
much
time
are
we
talking
about?
Because
I
think
there
are
real
needs,
as
expressed
by
the
community
and
as
expressed
especially
by
by
those
who
would
use
the
entrance
to
have
this
completed
as
soon
as
possible
um
in
part,
because,
right
now
it
is,
the
access
is
difficult,
especially
for
the
shriver
program,
and
so
I
know
we're
trying
to
get
this
perfect
and
beautiful.
P
P
I
I
am
interested
in
seeing
the
county
exert
control
over
18th
street
and
if
that
presents
us
with
a
solution
where,
uh
where
we
can
have
some
better
access
control
and
provide
some
additional
parking
and
maybe
save
some
costs
that
way,
I
I
would
support
it.
um
But
I
am
concerned
about
the
amount
of
time
that
this
will
take
to
kind
of
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
the
impact
on
the
students
and
others
who
are
needing
access
to
the
to
the
campus
as
as
this
project
continues
to
evolve.
B
M
Yeah,
just
uh
just
to
respond
to
the
to
the
question
posed
uh
by
the
last
commissioner
them
I
mean
I.
I
appreciate
the
sensitivity
around
um
the
current
condition
and
wanting
to
to
sort
of
resolve
something
and
provide
something
to
our
students
that
that
does
fulfill.
You
know,
aspirations
and
commitments.
We've
we've
made
and
our
or
us
in
the
county
have
made
in
uh
collectively
in
the
past.
The
uh
I
mean
I
I
mean.
M
M
um
You
know
I
will
say
in
this
time
since
uh
2017
and
now
our
you
know,
evolution
as
an
organization
has
learned
a
number
of
things
around
access
and
what
it
means
to
provide
uh
universal
access
and
singular
paths
for
all
users
and
that
sorts
of
things.
So
some
of
that
in
the
lessons
you
know
built
from
recent
projects
we're
trying
to
apply
in
these
circumstances
and
in
the
in
the
the
conclusion
applying
those
in
these
circumstances,
that
has
other
other
consequences.
Like
the
experience
on
18th
street.
M
There's,
no
there's
no
question
it's
different
than
than
was
expected.
Before.
On
the
question
of
timing,
uh
I
mean,
depending
on
the
nature
of
the
of
the
requests
made,
I
mean
it.
uh
You
know
it's
I'm
not
sure,
probably
months
of
of
work
and
considerations,
I
mean,
if
the
you
know
our
depending
on
what
what
the
county
uh
would
be
willing
to
accept
and
permit
aps
to
to
execute.
um
I
I
you
know
I'll
say
that
if
the
field
becomes
lower,
the
experience
that
uh
closer
to
quince
street
is
unlikely
to
change.
M
J
Thank
you,
mr
burgin.
I
appreciate
your
your
clarification,
your
comments
before
and
I
mean
I
I
have
just
after
listening
to
the
presentations
listening
to
the
county
staff.
Listening
to
you
uh
listening
to
my
fellow
commissioners
again,
I
I
think
the
project.
Again,
it's
not
perfect.
I
think
it's
a
good
project.
J
I'd
like
to
see
aps
and
the
county
get
on
the
same
page
uh
come
to
us.
You
know
as
a
collective
in
agreement
as
to
what
this
project
is
going
to
be
and
what
it
should
be,
um
and
it
shouldn't
include
parking
on
the
street.
Thank
you
um
and,
and
then
let
us
debate
that
and
move
forward
with
the
recommendation.
B
B
uh
Project
gets
to
transportation,
commission
um
and
it
does
leave
us
in
this
awkward
spot
um
and
generally,
I'm
happy
to
just
recommend
deferral,
because
clearly
we
weren't
ready
um
by
the
time
we
got
here
or
the
manager
would
have
been
comfortable
making
a
recommendation
um
other
than
commissioner
price's
hand,
which
I
think
is
a
remnant
from
just
a
moment
ago.
I'm
not
seeing
anyone's.
B
B
I
think
part
of
the
reason
I'm
deferring
is.
I
think
we
still
need
to
have
some
conversations
about
the
best
way.
For
that
to
happen.
um
One
pfrc
meeting
and
a
tc
meeting
was
was
not
enough.
I
think
it
needs
some
more
conversation
um
and
I
will
say
I
am
supportive
of
commissioner
tell
me
his
thoughts
about.
B
Does
this
really
need
public
parking
and
public
access
at
any
time?
Or
can
this
street
really
be
focused
on
supporting
the
operation
of
this
building?
So
with
that
said,
um
and
seeing
no
other
hands,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion,
which
is
that
the
transportation
commission
recommends
that
the
county
board
defer
uh
consideration
of
the
heights
phase.
Two
uh
pending
uh
further
community
conversation
about
the
issues
uh
around
the
height
of
the
field
and
the
appropriate
amount
of
parking
and
the
appropriate
cross-section
of
18th
street.
P
B
Yeah,
so
I
just
want
to
make
a
quick
uh
clarification
on
county
board
versus
county
manager.
um
You
know
staff
work
for
the
county
manager.
Usually
when
stuff
comes
in
front
of
transportation.
Commission
the
manager
already
has
a
recommendation
and
that's
in
our
draft
board
report.
The
county
manager
recommends
that
the
county
board
approve
this
or
you
know
something
else.
um
So
the
county
manager
uh
does
not
have
a
clear
recommendation
on
this
item
yet
probably
will
before
it
gets
to
the
board.
B
uh
But
often
what
that
recommendation
is
um
is
informed
by
commission
feeling
as
it
approaches
the
board
meeting.
um
So
the
fact
that
we
are
recommending
deferral
may
and
often
does
um
sort
of
inform
the
county
manager
on
whether
he
thinks
that
this
project
is
in
fact
ready
for
approval
and
or
prime
time.
um
So
this
is
one
of
those
kind
of
rare
situations
where
we're
not
necessarily
fighting
uphill.
um
If
we
don't,
you
know,
agree
with
what's
in
front
of
us,
um
you
know
the
cat
the
county
manager
may
have
her
back.
P
B
It's
our
job
to
to
uh
make
a
recommendation
to
them.
uh
Let
me
do
let
me
before
we
you
get
back
to
that.
Let
me
ask
mr
burgin,
though,
um
how
soon
af
were
this
to
be
approved
at
the
may
county
board
meeting?
um
What
does
your
construction
schedule
look
like?
When
would
you
start
construction
and
how
tight
is
your
timeline
to
have
this
open
when
you
want
to
have
it
open.
M
M
uh
At
this
point,
it's
unlikely
we'll
achieve
that
uh
milestone,
so
we're
already
kind
of
investigating
what
uh
uh
like
a
mid-year
delivery.
Unfortunately,
this
you
know
uh
this
facility
will
have
to
stay
under
construction
uh
or
open,
while
we're
under
construction
we'll
just
have
to
kind
of
mitigate
things
and
and
uh
and
plan
that
out
accordingly,
based
on
when
when
we
uh
would
expect
to
complete
our
design
and
start
construction.
It's
sort
of
this
is
this
is
a
major
milestone
for
us
uh
and
obviously,
without
a
board
approval.
B
M
uh
So
I'd
say
that
the
um
the
reason
it's
coming
at
this
point
uh
in
the
in
our
presentation
in
the
timeline
piece
it
you
know
the
the
school
board
had
an
opportunity
to
put
it
into
a
capital
plan-
uh
mate,
perhaps
a
year
earlier
than
uh
than
it
actually
did
uh
so
it
on
the
school
board
side.
We
we
had
some
work
sessions.
We
had
kind
of
investigations,
a
couple
of
studies
to
inform
um
this
design,
uh
one
of
the
one
of
the
the
slides
in
our
appendix
is
alternatives
considered
but
dismissed.
M
L
I
I
do
also
want
to
point
out
that
I
will
throw
covet
under
the
bus
a
little
bit
here.
uh
We
have
been
going
through
that
and
to
a
large
extent,
I
don't
think
that
aps
would
have
been
able
to
respond
to
the
county
board's
request
for
data.
um
Had
it
been
advanced
sooner,
that
that
is
not
necessarily
a
good
reason
for
our
community
to
to
see
this
get
dragged
out.
But
I
do
think
that
it
was
very
beneficial
to
our
review
to
have
the
data
requested
by
the
county
board.
B
E
It's
okay,
thank
you.
um
I
I
just
I'm
in
commissioner
ludlow's
camp.
I
I
like
the
design.
I
it
feels
like
it
works.
I
hear
obviously,
your
commissioner
uh
chairman
slat
your
concerns
as
well.
As
commissioner,
tell
me
um
if
this
is
definitely
not
within
conformance
of
the
company's
requirements,
then
I
want
to
vote
against
it,
but
otherwise
I
would
feel
like
um
I'm
supportive
so,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
the
the
requirements.
B
B
K
E
F
A
I
I
I
I
You
know,
I
don't
think
I
have
to
go
into
too
much
detail
with
this
group,
but
there's
six
components
of
the
mtp
and,
for
the
sake
of
this
study,
we'll
really
be
looking
at
the
bike
element,
pedestrian
element,
street
element
and
transit
element,
and
so
here
just
an
overview
of
some
of
the
planning
goals.
You
know
high
quality,
efficient,
sustainable,
equitable,
effective
and
safe,
so
things
we're
keeping
in
mind
throughout.
This
is
just
a
very
high
level
overview
same
thing
with
the
street
element
goals.
I
um
You
know
there
is
also
a
lot
of
transit
going
east
and
west
on
columbia,
pike
and
there's
really
kind
of.
I
think
three
main
reasons
you
know
that
we
really
focused
on
this
quarter,
the
first
being
the
mtp
guidance.
Like
I
mentioned.
You
know
this
is
a
primary
bicycling
corridor
in
the
bike
element.
I
Cog,
equity
emphasis
emphasis
area
and
what
this
really
means
is
that
there
is
essentially
a
high
concentration
of
ethnic
minorities
based
off
some
census,
tract
information,
and
so
as
a
county.
We
really
need
to
be
thinking
about
how
transportation
affects
people
of
color
who
are
working
or
living,
or
you
know,
traveling
along
this
corridor.
I
And
so
to
really
just
get
a
feel
for,
what's
going
on
in
south
georgia,
mason
drive,
we
put
together
kind
of
a
list
of
community
facilities
or
you
know
community
assets.
You
can
see
right
here.
We
really
focus
on
parks
and
schools.
You
have
a
few
parks,
including
alcova
heights
park,
where
we
just
had
a
walking
tour.
Today.
I
um
Schools
as
well
is
you
know
very
important
with
school,
slow
zones
and
even
the
conversation
we
just
had,
you
know
getting
students
to
school
and
whether
that's
you
know,
drop-off
bus
walking
or
biking
is
a
huge
priority
in
doing
so.
You
know
safely
and
then
we
also
have
barcraft
community
center,
which
is
a
pretty
large
chip,
generator.
I
And
this
map
really
focuses
on
south
georgia
mason
from
a
pedestrian
perspective,
so
just
breaking
it
down.
We
have
seven
signalized
intersections,
meaning
that
there's
stop
lights.
Four
unsignalized
meanings
that
there's
a
crosswalk
with
no
sort
of
light
or
flashing
beacon.
Then
we
also
have
two
hawk
signals.
I
I
I
And
we
also
have
the
bike
element.
This
is
actually
a
map.
That's
taken
directly
from
the
document,
there's
eight
east-west
bicycle
network
connections,
and
I
think
one
thing
that's
important
to
note
about
this
graphic
is
you
can
see
the
blue
line?
That's
south
george
mason
drive
traveling
north
and
south
here.
The
solid
blue
portion
means
that
it's
existing
on
street
bike
lane
and
the
dash
line.
That's
blue
means
that
it's
planned.
So
it's
not
yet
existing
and,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
it
is
a
primary
cycling
corridor.
I
Also
quite
important
are
the
two
trail
connections.
We
have
the
wnod
trail
crossing
at
south
4
mile
run
drive.
Then
we
also
have
a
four
mile
run
trail
crossing
not
far
away
a
little
bit
south
of
corridor,
and
just
another
thing
to
take
note
of
is
that
there's
four
capital
bike
share
stations
throughout
the
corridor.
I
I
I
I
Focusing
on
kind
of
what
we're
doing
now
with
data
analysis
like
I
mentioned,
we're
working
with
tool,
design
and
a
large
component
of
you
know.
What
we're
doing
right
now
is
collecting
counts,
we're
going
to
do
this
to
kind
of
project
and
use
modeling
to
figure
out
what
it's
going
to
look
like
in
2045.
So
when
we
are
thinking
about
reallocating
space,
we
can
take
into
account.
I
I
You
can
see,
starting
in
the
north,
we're
looking
at
arlington
boulevard,
moving
down
to
columbia,
pike
and
then
south
florida,
myron
drive,
south
columbus
street
and
finally,
south
hamilton
street.
We
have
decided
to
add
two
more
intersections
recently.
um
The
first
is
sixth
street
and
that's
by
the
national
foreign
affairs
training
center.
It
is
a
spot
where
a
lot
of
students
with
their
parents
walk.
I
And
here's
just
an
example
of
what
was
collected
in
march
of
this
year.
You
can
see
location
1
on
the
map,
starting
in
the
south.
We
have
wakefield
high
school
with
about
17
000
vehicles,
a
day,
location,
2
about
12
400
vehicles
a
day
and
location
three,
which
is
about
9400
vehicles
per
day,
so
last,
but
definitely
not
least,
community
engagement.
I
So,
looking
at
this
in
this
timeline
here,
you
can
see
kind
of
where
we
are
at
now,
which
is
highlighted
in
red,
and
essentially
we
had
the
community
kickoff
meeting,
which
was
april
6,
2022
and
since
then,
we've
opened
a
interactive
web
map
and
that's
actually
open
until
may
1st
and
I'll
link
that
in
the
chat
and
we've
also
had
walking
tours,
we
had
one
in
basically
that
started
in
the
barcroft
community
center
area.
That
was
this
past
saturday,
and
then
we
actually
had
another
one
really
focused
on
the
pike
today
and
so
from
there.
I
We
will
kind
of
take
all
the
input
that
we've
received,
that
data
analysis
that
I
mentioned,
and
we
will
come
up
with
a
few
corridor
concepts
and
those
will
be
brought
for
community
engagement
and
input
in
summer
2022,
as
well
as
a
summary
of
everything
we
heard
on
this
existing
conditioned
engagement
that
we
are
currently
in
right
now
and
similar
to
the
process
I
just
mentioned.
We
will
have
another
information
or
sharing
and
gathering
opportunity
in
the
fall
of
2022.
I
I
But
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
it's
ready
for.
You
know,
grant
applications
and
to
be
included
in
the
cip,
and
we
have
a
really
great
team
working
on
this
to
make
sure
that
you
know,
although
it's
a
quick
process,
we're
getting
to
as
many
people
and
hearing
from
as
many
community
residents
and
business
owners
and
commuters
as
possible,
and
so
this
is
just
an
overview
of
what
I
mentioned
before
you
know.
I
Most
of
these
dates
are
passed,
but
I
think
one
thing
that's
important
to
note
is
any
sort
of
handout
or
presentation.
We
have
will
be
posted
on
the
website
in
the
park:
arabic,
cantonese,
mandarin,
mongolian
and
vietnamese.
In
addition
to
spanish-
and
that
is,
you
know,
information
we
use
using
census
data
to
figure
out.
You
know
what
you
know:
people
what
languages
people
are
speaking
that
are,
you
know,
living
and
traveling
on
the
corridor,
and
then
spanish
interpretation
was
offered
at
all
of
our
in-person
walking
meetings.
I
You
can
add,
you
know
personalized
text,
so
we've
been
getting
some
really
rich
qualitative
data
from
this
slide
that
I'm
excited
to
look
into
after
you
know
it
closes,
and
that
is
all
I
have
for
now.
um
Like
I
mentioned,
I
will
post
the
project
page
in
the
chat
once
you
click
on
that
project
page
the
first
thing
you'll
see,
is
the
survey
and
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me.
My
email
is
here
as
well
as
nate
who's
working
on
community
engagement,
and
I
actually
can't
see
hands
at
this
time.
I
I
B
B
There
are
an
absolutely
absurd
number
of
dots
on
that
web
map.
Right
now,
I
heard
from
a
couple
people
who
were
walking
tours
that
there
were,
you
know
people
they
have
never
seen
before
on
these
walking
tours,
which
is
fantastic
to
hear,
um
and
the
conversation
at
the
stakeholders
meeting
was
very
much
around.
B
P
Yeah
I'd
just
like
to
associate
myself
with
you
your
comments,
uh
I
I
think
you're
spot
on.
I'm
fully
supportive
of
studies
like
this.
I
think
we
have
to
as
a
county
have
a
clear
vision
for
the
future
of
of
our
roads,
many
of
which
have
a
design
profile
that
dates
back
to
the
advent
of
the
automobile
and
uh
we've.
We've
got
to
move
forward,
and
I
am
fully
supportive
of
us
in
this
study
and
including
the
great
techniques
that
are
being
used
as
well
as
in
other
parts,
the
county
to
help
us.
B
F
J
H
B
B
B
A
Well,
that
wraps
up
all
of
the
agenda
items
we
now
have
other
business
attend
to.
I
understand
that
we
have
an
lrpc
meeting
for
the
ml
woods
site
tier
one
special
glove
study,
and
I
just
want
to
remind
commissioners
that
it
is
may
12
7
to
9
pm
and
I'm
not
sure
if
there
is
someone
who
has
signed
up
to
be
a
rep
for
that,
because
I've
been
sending
all
of
the
notifications
to
um
chairman
slatt.
A
A
Oh
wow,
okay,
so
this
is
a
big
one.
So
the
electronic
meetings
bill
um
goes
into
effect
september
one
and
it
is
essentially
the
new
regulations
from
the
state
that
govern
how
we
can
meet
virtually
or
in
a
hybrid
setting,
and
there
are
some
rules
around
that
that
the
manager's
office
wants
to
make
sure
we
all
understand.
A
Thank
you
if
there's
someone
else
who
um
needs
to
attend
the
meeting
as
well,
please
just
spoil
with
the
invite
along
to
them,
also
um
the
emergency
declaration.
I've
gotten
a
few
questions
about
that
is
still
in
effect
for
virtual
meetings
and
it's
my
understanding
that
it
will
possibly
be
in
effect
through
september,
but
we
will
know
more
in
july
about
when
that
would
happen.
So
until
we
get
a
notice
that
we
have
30
days,
we
will
continue
to
meet
virtually
and
that's
all
I
have
for
updates.
If
there
is
anything
else,
please
do
share.