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A
A
B
D
All
right,
um
this
item
is
for
approval
of
our
County's
application
to
the
fiscal
23
raise
program
with
usdot.
um
We
are
applying
or
present
to
apply
for
15
million
dollars
for
the
Arlington
Memorial
Trail.
This
is
our
third
attempt
at
this
facility
previously
known
as
the
Arlington
National
Cemetery
wall
Trail.
D
D
uh
The
request
has
not
changed,
nor
has
the
cost
in
the
CIP,
which
is
25
million,
so
we're
applying
for
15
million
in
raise
funding,
and
then
local
funds
will
be
used
to
provide
the
balance
which
includes
the
20
match
for
the
Federal
Grant
applications
are
due
at
the
end
of
February,
and
we
had
brought
this
to
the
commission's
an
info
item
I
think
two
months
ago
now
we're
coming
back
for
Action,
so
I
can
stop
there.
If
anyone
has
any
questions
about
the
Arlington
Memorial
Trail
or
about
the
raise
application.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
roysman,
uh
any
Commissioners.
If
you
have
questions
or
comments,
please
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hand
either
in
person
where
I
can
see
it
or
virtually
or
hopefully,
Ms
obakoya
can
see
it
and
alert.
Me
I
will
just
say
uh
that
this
um
you
know.
We've
we've
heard
this
item
before
is
an
info
item,
so
we're
all
pretty
familiar.
C
I
will
highlight
that
a
thing
that
has
happened
in
the
interim
is
that
the
Arlington
Memorial
Trail
has
entered
uh
its
environmental
process
and
there's
an
open
feedback
uh
period
happening
right
now
that
closes
I.
Believe
it's
February,
24th
um
I
will
send
a
link
around
for
anybody
who
might
want
to
weigh
in
on
that,
but
it's
two
fairly
similar
alignments,
but
with
some
some
interesting
um
kind
of
trade-offs
between
them
that
are
worth
exploring
and
seeing
No
Hands
Up
here
and
not
seeing
any
hands.
C
Virtually
I
will
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion,
which
is
that
I
move.
The
Transportation
Commission
recommend
that
the
County
Board
approve
the
transmittal
of
an
application
to
the
Department
of
Transportation
for
the
FY
23
Rose
raise
program
for
15
million
dollars
in
federal
funding
for
the
Arlington
Memorial
Trail
and,
furthermore,
uh
the
the
note
that
the
Transportation
Commission
recommends
approval.
Second,
is
there
any
further
discussion
of
the
item
that
has
been
motioned
and
seconded
all
right,
then
I
will
call
do
I.
Have
anybody
virtual
I?
Actually
don't
do
I?
C
A
E
um
Dennis
Ellen
here
from
Department
of
Environmental
Services,
and
we
have
actually
I,
don't
know
if,
if
anyone's
in
person
or
if
anyone's
virtual
I
see
Nick
Cummings
from
the
project
team,
whom
I
will
allow
to
introduce
um
in
the
um
I
see,
the
oars
are
here
from
the
development
team
but
I'm
going
to
allow
Mr
Cummings
to
introduce
his
team
and
then
I'll
make
a
presentation.
And
then
the
development
team
will
make
a
presentation
um
Nick.
Would
you
like
to
introduce
your
team.
F
Sure
Nicholas
Cummings,
with
Walsh
Colucci
here
I'm
land
use
Council.
We
have
members
of
War
Partners.
Here
we
have
Ryan
Orr
and
David
Orr
um
I
bet
we
have
Tyler
Orr
as
well.
I
see
him
right.
There
I
think
Mr,
Grady
Vaughn
is
there
in
the
room
with
you
all
tonight,
and
then
we
also
have
uh
members
of
the
consultant
team,
the
design
team
who
are
available.
If
we
really
need
to
dig
deep
on
questions
but
I
think
that
between
me,
the
oars
and
Mr
Wrong
we
have
it
handled
tonight.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
Cummings,
um
and
for
this
side
we
have
myself
and
Michael
haluski
from
the
real
estate.
Bureau
are
here.
um
We
have
a
two-part
presentation
and
I'm,
not
sure
if,
if
um
we've
got
two
different
slideshows
or
one,
but
we
have
two
action
related
items
here:
one
is
for
the
site
plan
itself
and
then
one
is
for
the
street
vacations,
um
which
I
will
do
forth
with
um
Bridget.
Can
you
bring
up
the
presentation,
perhaps.
A
E
So
this
is
a
site
plan
um
for
an
essay
plan.
465
the
digital
numbers,
spln
19
quadruple
zero;
six.
It
is
Joyce
Motors
at
the
intersection
of
10th
and
Irving
streets.
It
is
presented
for
action
and
we
are
recommending
approval
for
this
site
plan
for
the
um
the
approval
of
the
site
plan,
the
adoption
of
the
ordinance
and
for
the
recommendation
of
these
Street
vacations.
That
will
be
the
real
estate
item.
E
Thank
you.
Can
we
align
that
so
that
we
have
one
okay?
Yes,
we
can
go
to
this
slide.
Perfect.
Okay,
I
have
a
pretty
short
presentation,
I'm
sure
the
applicants
is
going
to
be
more
illustrative
and
beautiful,
but
I
will
just
go
quickly
through
mine,
so
this
project
involves
the
construction
of
up
to
241
residential
dwelling
units
and
approximately
3639
square
feet
of
retail
on
in
a
16-story
mixed-use
residential
building.
E
E
um
You
know
pardon
me
I'm,
starting
with
the
document
on
the
right,
the
master
Transportation
plan,
with
its
multiple
modal
elements,
the
most
recently
adopted
being
the
amended
bicycle
element
from
2019
and,
secondly,
the
document
on
the
left,
the
Clarendon
sector
plan
in
April
2022,
the
Arlington
County
Board,
adopted
an
addendum
to
the
Clarendon
sector
plan
that
focused
specifically
on
the
several
blocks
surrounding
this
site,
intended
to
provide
guidance
to
the
six
potential
development
sites
in
the
focus
area.
It
set
forth
a
vision.
E
E
So
you
will
see
from
this
side
slide
that
both
the
MTP
2019
bicycle
element
and
the
Clarendon
sector
plan
both
recommend
an
enhanced
bicycle
facility
along
10th
Street
North
in
Arlington
County's
recently
adopted
Capital
Improvement
program.
The
County
Board
has
identified
funding
for
a
multimodal
corridor
study
of
Fairfax
Drive
and
of
10th
Street
North.
E
E
um
They
have
uh
wait
one
more
thing
as
part
of
its
Community
benefit
package.
The
developer
is
proposing
to
contribute
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
toward
Transportation
improvements
in
the
immediate
vicinity
of
the
project
area,
the
vast
majority
of
which
would
go
toward
this
enhanced
bicycle
facility
on
10th
Street
North
may
I
have
the
next
slide.
Please.
E
Additional
planning
guidance
from
the
sector
plan
is
that
a
new
tense
Road
North
is
proposed
for
the
north
side
of
the
Joyce
motor
site
and
an
alley
proposed
to
be
directly
west
of
the
site
to
provide
access,
as
well
as
to
separate
this
site
from
the
southern
half
of
the
Bingham
Center
AKA,
this
Silver
Diner
site,
and
these
are
shown
in
Brown
in
the
image
at
Wright
and,
of
course,
both
of
those
are
being
incorporated
into
this
site
plan
project,
which
you
will
will
be
seeing
this
evening
and
on
the
next
slide.
Please.
E
Thank
you.
Other
Transportation
recommendations
from
the
Clarendon
sector
plan
addendum
include
recommendations
for
the
streetscapes,
which
specifically
recommend
sidewalk
widths
and
those
sidewalk
widths
that
are
proposed
for
all
of
the
streets
surrounding
the
Joyce
motor
site.
Meet
these
sector
plan
guidance
for
the
sidewalk
widths,
although
no
guidance
is
given
for
sidewalks
for
alleys
or
pedestrian
pedestrian
Pathways,
the
applicant
will
be
providing
a
five
foot,
clear,
pedestrian
pathway
or
sidewalk
alongside
the
travel
way,
the
alley
and
next
slide,
which
is
on
parking.
E
The
retail
vehicle
parking
is
one
space
per
455
square
feet
or
eight
parking
spaces
for
the
3639
square
feet
of
retail
space.
Additionally,
surrounding
the
site
there
would
be
will
be
and
is
paid
on-street
parking
available
on
10th
Street
North
and
on
North
Irving,
Street
adjacent
to
the
site
and
the
next
slide.
Please.
E
Additionally,
the
consultant
has
determined
that
the
approaches
at
the
unsignalized
study
intersections
would
continue
to
operate
at
acceptable
levels
of
service
during
the
morning
and
the
evening
peak
hour
periods
with
respect
to
queuing
the
consultancies
of
very
little
change
from
the
existing
conditions.
According
to
the
consultant,
the
edition
of
the
pipeline
developments
and
regional
growth
would
result
in
nominal
increases,
meaning
one
vehicle
or
less
in
the
estimated
50th
and
95th
percentile
cues.
E
Take
our
vehicle
trips
and
a
total
of
475
daily
vehicle
trips.
The
proposed
site
is
estimated
to
generate
approximately
187
morning
peak
hour
person,
trips
167
evening,
peak
hour
person,
trips
and
a
total
of
1
849
peak
hour
person
trips.
These
are
non-auto
trips
and
are
in
addition
to
the
vehicle
trips
that
are
mentioned
above
and
in
conclusion,
may
I
have
the
next
slide.
Please.
E
Spln,
19,
quadruple06,
SP
465
to
permit
construction
of
up
to
5.87
far
including
up
to
180
4714
square
feet
of
residential
GFA
and
up
to
3639
square
feet
of
retail
retail
GFA
located
generally
at
3201
10th
Street
North
I'm
not
going
to
read
all
these
are
PC
numbers
um
with
modifications
of
an
of
the
zoning
ordinance
requirements,
including
additional
density,
reduced
parking
and
loading
requirements,
design
requirements,
density
exclusions
and
other
modifications
as
necessary.
To
achieve
the
proposed
development
plan,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
the
attached
ordinance.
E
I
would
now
like
to
turn
it
over
to
Mr
Michael
haluski
of
the
real
estate
Bureau,
because
he
would
like
to
show
a
couple
of
slides
on
the
vacations.
Then
you
will
have
the
entire
package
that
we
are
presenting
to
you
for
uh
our
recommendations
and
then
we
will
have
the
applicant
give
their
presentation.
E
A
G
B
A
G
uh
Just
give
me
one
moment:
I
can
pull
up
my
couple
of
slides
good
evening:
uh
Commissioners
I'm
Michael
luski
I'm,
a
real
estate
specialist
with
the
Department
of
Environmental
Services
real
estate,
Bureau
um
I'll.
Just
be
very
brief.
Let
me
share
my
screen.
As
Mr
sellin
mentioned,
we
have
um
a
apologies.
G
We
have
a
two
vacation
areas
that
are
associated
with
this
project.
There
is
a
north-south
alley
that
bisects
this
block
running
from
Wilson
Boulevard
to
10th
Street.
There's
a
2931
square
foot
portion
of
this
alley
proposed
to
be
vacated
as
part
of
this
Choice
Motors
project.
The
remainder
portions
of
the
alleys
will
be
vacated
as
part
of
the
or
proposed
to
be
vacated
as
part
of
the
Silver
Diner
Bingham
Center
project.
That's
going
through
its
public
review
right
now.
We
can
see
that
here
on
this
plant.
G
These
are
the
great
areas
also
along
North
Irving
Street
Frontage.
There
is
an
existing
um
one
thousand
uh
I'll
have
to
look
it
up
very
quickly,
I
think
it's
um
1127
square
foot,
portion
of
existing
public
Street
and
utilities
purposes.
Easement
it's
behind
the
back
of
curb.
The
applicant
is
also
proposed
to
vacate
this
area
and
they
will
dedicate
back
the
standard
public,
sidewalk
and
utilities
easements
around
their
Frontage.
F
With
Walsh
Colucci
here
representing
the
applicant,
so
we're
excited
tonight
to
be
presenting
this
project
to
you
in
the
closing
weeks
of
what
has
been
a
long
process.
We
filed
this
application
in
October
of
2019
before
the
county
launched
the
study
to
update
the
Clarendon
sector
plan,
and
you
saw
some
of
those
materials
tonight
for
Mr
selin
I'm,
proud
to
say
that.
F
General
really
a
recent
example
of
their
work
here
in
Arlington
that
you
all
may
be
familiar
with
is
the
central
building
on
Columbia,
Pike
or
Partners
is
committed
to
delivering
high
quality
housing
for
its
tenants,
but
also
to
delivering
equally
high
quality
benefits
to
neighborhoods
of
joints.
And
we
see
that
in
many
aspects
of
the
project,
for
you
today,
I'll
note
too,
that
this
is
not
the
last
that
you'll
see
of
this
team
and
we're.
You
know
proceeding
with
some
other
projects
that
I
think
you're
going
to
see
in
the
future
as
well.
F
So
we're
excited
for
that
too.
This
project
today
proposes
an
11-story
residential
building
with
241
units
and
almost
4
000
square
feet
of
ground
floor,
retail,
we're
constructing
a
new
alley
and
a
new
Street
connection
through
this
block
and
providing
a
substantial
Community
benefit
package
to
earn
density
above
the
3.0
far
base
for
the
site.
Those
benefits
just
briefly
include
on-site,
affordable
housing,
including
some
three-bedroom
family-sized
units,
which
is
critically
needed
in
the
counties.
F
It's
a
huge
contribution,
preservation
and
relocation
of
the
historic
choice
of
orders,
facade
construction
of
off-site,
curb
extensions,
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
Future
Transportation
Planning
efforts
in
Clarendon
to
be
important
and
557
thousand
dollars
towards
future
public
space
and
park,
planning
efforts
and
clarinet.
So
that's
going
to
go
a
long
way
towards
kicking
off
the
process
most
likely
for
that
new
public
park
that
was
envisioned
by
the
clarinet
sector
plan
study.
Once
we
realized
the
fire
station
was
not
going
to
be
able
to
move.
F
H
H
um
Okay,
so,
in
addition
to
the
the
metronome
bus
routes,
there's
also
a
robust
network
of
uh
bike
lanes
and
bike
routes,
um
there
are
several
uh
Capital
bike
stations.
In
addition,
um
the
most
proximate
being
at
Wilson
and
Fairfax,
with
11
docks
um
available
with
several
others
also
nearby
if
they're
needed.
The
blue
route
shown
here
are
the
on
Street
um
bike
recommendations
and
then
there's
also
black
route
should
which
are
separated
bike
lanes
that
would
be
used
to
connect
to
the
more
Regional
facilities.
H
H
H
H
In
addition,
uh
these
are
The
Pedestrian
entrances
to
the
building.
You
can
see
again.
This
plane
is
turned
to
the
right,
so
the
Primary
Residential
lobbies
located
most
on
the
side
most
proximate
to
the
metro
station
and
uh
the
retail
entrances
being
up
against
the
10th
Street
retail
Corridor.
The
Bike
Room
access
is
on
the
proposed
alley
with
direct
access
into
the
bike
storage
area,
which
I'll
speak
to
a
little
bit
more
further
in
the
presentation.
H
H
They
also
provide
building
zone
areas
or
shy
zones
and,
in
addition
to
landscape
areas,
with
the
exception
of
the
alley
which
has
the
six
foot
sidewalk
um
you
can
see.
Also
on
this
Graphics
circled
is
the
Bike
Room,
with
the
direct
access
I
mentioned
previously,
and
also
the
class
3
visitor
spaces
shown
with
stars
here
on
some
major
pedestrian
Corners
that
we
find
will
be
usable
for
visitors
to
both
the
residential
uses
and
the
retail
uses
proposed.
H
um
Diving
in
quickly
here
to
our
Capacity
Analysis
that
was
included
in
the
Transportation
assessment.
We
scoped
this
thoroughly
with
Arlington
County
staff
and
determined
that
12
off-site
study
intersections
would
be
analyzed
all
of
those
study
intersections
operate
at
level
service,
C
or
better
during
the
AM
and
PM
Peak
periods,
and
in
addition
to
the
existing
conditions,
we
analyze
both
a
background
and
future
condition
um
to
isolate
the
impacts
of
our
proposed
site.
H
So
to
develop
our
trip
generation
estimates,
we
first
took
into
account
the
existing
automobile
parts
and
service
station,
and
then
the
proposed
residential
and
Retail
uses
ultimately
determining
a
net
increase
of
29
am
peak
hour
trips
and
34
PM
peak
hour
trips.
Both
of
those
estimates
include
both
of
those
peak
hours
include
a
substantial
non-auto
reduction
with
61
percent
non-auto
being
applied
to
the
residential
uses
and
an
80
non-auto
being
applied
to
the
retail
uses
to
to
take
a
conservative
analysis
of
the
future
network.
H
um
These
were
scoped
at
the
time
that
we
collected
the
traffic
data,
so
this
was
all
added
to
those
existing
counts
to
make
sure
that
we
account
for
all
those
future
developments.
So
with
all
of
that
background
uh
traffic,
in
addition
to
our
proposed
site,
each
of
the
study
intersection
continued
to
operate
at
acceptable
levels,
service,
C
or
better.
The
proposed
10th,
Road
North
connection
would
enhance
our
circulation
and
access
to
our
site
and
help
to
connect
those
multimodal
facilities
in
the
area.
H
H
Oh,
this
one
came
on
I
think
alrighty
I'll,
try
and
get
this
before
this
one
dies.
So
um
so
the
number
of
denim
that
Dennis
mentioned
earlier
excluded
some
of
those
visitor
spaces
that
would
be
available
to
uh
visitors
of
the
site
um
to
the
bicycle
parking.
We
do
exceed
the
requirement
for
both
class
one
and
class
three
spaces.
We
propose
to
provide
a
hundred
uh
class
one
secure
bicycle
spaces
in
the
Bike
Room,
in
addition
to
10
class
3
bike
spaces
shown
um
on
the
edges
of
the
site
um
on
the
plant.
H
um
So
a
little
bit
to
the
electric
vehicle
charging
we
proposed
to
installed
with
the
site
four
percent
of
the
space's
minimum,
uh
with
availability
to
up
to
15
EV
ready
parking
spaces.
Another
unique
and
pretty
cool
part
of
the
project
is
that
we
do
propose
to
install
bicycle
charging
stations,
um
so
those
would
be
included
in
the
secure
Bike
Room.
H
And
then,
comparing
that
information
to
some
sites
uh
that
were
recently
approved
and
under
construction
in
the
area,
uh
the
average
approved
parking
ratio
for
those
sites
was
0.9
spaces
per
unit
and
the
average
uh
after
some
administrative
updates
to
this
project
is
0.75
spaces
per
unit.
So
we
would
still
be
lower
than
both
of
those,
but
we
think
we
are
providing
an
adequate
amount
of
parking
for
the
residents
and
Retail
users
of
our
site.
H
um
The
parking
would
be
provided
in
a
below
grade
garage
accessed
off
of
the
new
alley,
uh
with
three
levels
of
structured
parking
and
uh
to
achieve
these
uh
parking
ratios,
we
would
Implement
that
Transportation
demand
management
plan
that
I
described
briefly
previously.
It's
and
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
um
that
you
guys
may
have.
C
C
um
It
occurred
to
me
as
I
was
reviewing
uh
the
information
for
this
site
yesterday
um
that
we
had
a
project
when
I
first
started
on
the
commission.
That
did
a
very
similar
thing
where
it
was
transferring
development
rights
from
uh
one
of
the
cute
little
historic
buildings
uh
in
Clarendon
uh
to
another
development,
and
we
had
a
member
of
the
public
and
former
Transportation
commissioner
raise
uh
what
I
thought
was
a
very
important
and
interesting
issue
at
the
time,
which
was
that
by
you
know,
transferring
the
development
rights
from
that
building.
C
F
G
Yes,
thank
you.
Mr
Cummings,
um
Mr
Cummings
is
correct.
uh
It's
the
exact
scenario,
as
you
described,
commissioner,
uh
on
the
barbershop
site,
um
there's
what
sidewalk
in
front
of
this
particular
site
that
is
not
uh
currently
subject
to
a
a
public
easement,
um
so
part
of
what
was
moving
forward
um
with
the
density
credit
action
um
uh
that
it
is
going,
there's
also
a
density
credit
not
before
the
Transportation
Commission
that
will
go
before
the
County
Board,
there's
a
portion
of
that
Barbershop
site.
G
Currently,
that
extends
beyond
the
back
of
curve
into
the
right-of-way,
so
it's
only
13
square
feet
but
they're
proposing
to
dedicate
that
and
then
also
the
sidewalk
area
in
front
of
the
barbershop
building
itself,
they're
proposing
to
dedicate
a
sidewalk
and
utilities
easement.
So
those
will
also
be
those
dedications
will
be
actions
before
the
County
Board
as
well.
C
I
It
was
thank
you,
chairman,
um
I'll,
probably
raise
the
same
questions
I
raised
at
the
sbrc
I
did
note,
because
um
there
was
a
response,
I
think
to
the
the
local
Civic
associations
that
the
retail
parking
has
gone
up.
I
believe
a
little
bit
from
the
original
proposal,
so
I
think
that's
um
good
for
them.
um
I
I
feel,
like
the
the
parking
ratio
went
up
and
I
I'm
still
thinking.
This
is
a
location
which
is
so
well
um
positioned
for
public
transportation
that
it
could
afford
a
lesser
parking
ratio.
F
I'm
happy
to
speak
to
the
parking
ratio,
um
so
we
continue
to
work
to
right
size
that
uh
you
know
we
increased
the
parking
Supply
during
uh
the
sprc
process.
Thinking
ahead
towards,
potentially
you
know,
leasing
do
we
want
more
spaces,
but
obviously
it
is
expensive
to
build
parking
um
and
County
policy
here
certainly
would
permit
a
lower
parking
ratio
or
support
it
more
accurately,
um
and
obviously
you
know
there's
shifting
demand
for
parking
spaces,
given
the
proximity
to
Transit.
F
J
I
J
To
note
that
the
Red
Top
um
site,
which
is
right,
you
know
not
too
far
from
where
you
are
the
buildings
on
the
construction.
Now
my
understanding
is
after
site
plan
approval.
They
came
back
to
the
county
and
asked
and
requested
and
were
granted
a
reduction
of
one
level
of
parking
um
that
they
are
not
building.
So
just
you
know,
others
are
doing
something
very
similar
agreed.
F
C
um
Can
you
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
the
the
Bike
Room
and
uh
what
kind
of
racks
are
in
there?
This
is
always
a
struggle.
It's
really
hard
to
tell
from
the
architectural
plan.
If
it's
um
you
know
double
Stacks
or
single
racks,
or
are
they
vertical?
Are
they
horizontal?
Is
there
anyone
who
can
speak
to
what
that?
um
What
that
makeup
is.
F
H
F
K
C
To
me
clarify
those
types,
awesome
yeah
we
really
like
to
see.
You
know
at
least
a
small
percentage
like
a
10
that
uh
that
aren't
the
double
Stacks
um
just
for
larger
bikes
and
people
who
have
trouble
potentially
getting
their
bike
up
um
into
a
rack.
um
So
that's
fantastic
to
see,
appreciate
it.
uh
Other
commissioner
questions
or
thoughts,
commissioner,
tell
me:
go
ahead.
Yeah.
J
um
You
know,
I've
lived
there
for
decades
and
it
never
even
occurred
to
me
that
there
would
be
a
public
right-of-way
going
through
that
site
um
and
that's
all
of
it
isn't
just
the
ones
that
are
being
vacated,
but
the
ones
going
right
over
Wilson,
Boulevard
back
and
over
because,
like
I
said,
they
were
completely
taken
over
by
by
the
neighboring
buildings
as
as
their
parking,
so
um
I
assume.
That
probably
goes
on.
In
other
places,
the
counting
it's
one
of
the
things
that
gets
frustrates
me.
J
F
I
will
tell
you
that
in
this
situation,
commissioner,
Lynn
tell
me
we
are
constructing
and
providing
a
publicly
eased
uh
Alleyway.
You
know
Street,
essentially
so
that
connectivity
is
being
provided
and
we'll
build
our
section
of
the
cross
street
as
well.
The
Bingham
Center,
which
is
going
to
be
in
front
of
you
soon
enough,
we'll
build
the
rest
of
that
cross
street
as
well.
So
the
situation
will
be
much
better
on
this
block.
J
I've
no
I
have
no
complaint
about
any
of
these
developers.
You're,
actually
improving
it.
There's
going
to
be
obvious
um
rights
of
way
that
people
will
be
able
to
walk
on
they're
not
going
to
be
easily
converted
over
to
private
usage.
The
way
the
existing
situation
is
right
now,
so
this
is
definitely
directed
to
the
county
and
not
to
to
the
applicants
at
all.
E
Yeah
I
mean
these
are
historical
artifacts,
that
we
are
correcting
site
plan
by
side
plan
um
and
I
do
understand
that
we
are
undertaking
a
um
uh
Amendment
to
the
or
a
reboot
of
the
master
Transportation
plan,
I
think
we're
having
a
listening
session
starting
next
week.
So
this
is
an
element
that
we
can
bring
up
internally,
but
I
appreciate
that
comment.
Commissioner.
L
L
E
um
We
I
think
at
the
time
that
the
MTP
was
done
in
2019
I.
Don't
think
that
we
anticipated
that
we'd
have
uh
this
opportunity
this
soon
for
this
project
to
come
along
to
provide
potential
for
an
investment
in
10th
Street,
and
so
when
this
project
did
come
along,
and
we
are
delighted
that
the
the
applicant
is
contributing
half
a
million
dollars
toward
this,
but
because
we
do
not
have
a
design
in
place,
we
do
not
have
anything
further
to
say
you
know,
will
the
median
be
um
remain?
L
Thank
you,
I
hope
it
I
mean
I,
know
that's
down
the
road,
but
I
hope
that
it
will
be
protected
because
we
see
what
happens
in
Crystal
City
uh
right
now
and
uh
follow
up
on
commissioner
Lane
tell
me
his
comment
about
the
privatization
of
public
space.
You
know
I
mean
a
lot
of
those
bike.
Lanes
are
pretty
much
unusable,
uh
so
they
they
exist
as
lines
on
the
payment,
but
uh
not
in
reality.
Thank
you.
C
Anyone
else
all
right
well
as
we
move
toward
a
motion,
I
just
wanted
to
say,
I
think
this
is
a
great
project.
I
applaud
the
applicant
I
applaud
the
sprc
um
I'm,
really
uh
delighted
to
see
the
uh
earmarking
of
funds
for
uh
the
future
uh
improvements
to
10th
Street,
that's
great,
to
see
as
well
as
funds
for
future
open
space,
because
that
was
a
huge
topic
of
the
conversation
uh
in
the
Claritin
section.
C
C
F
G
B
G
C
A
Next,
we
have
Betsy
Harps
to
present
on
an
ordinance
to
vacate
a
portion
of
a
12-foot
alley,
running
Southwest
from
South
Glebe
Road
towards
South
Lincoln
Street,
along
the
parcel
lines
between
lot.
None
and
parts
of
lots,
1,
2,
12
and
13
block
1
Alcova
Heights
known
as
3401
Columbia
Pike
in
Arlington
Virginia
RPC
number.
M
M
uh
This
particular
project
is
coming
to
the
board
in
February.
It
is
a
request
by
mcp3,
Arlington,
LLC
who's,
the
applicant
and
it's
to
facilitate
the
construction
of
the
form-based
code
project
at
3401,
Columbia
Pike,
which
you
may
know
it
as
the
Bank
of
America
site.
Excuse
me
it's
at
the
intersection
of
Columbia
Pike
and
South
Glebe
Road.
M
The
vacation
of
this
portion
of
the
alley
will
allow
construction
of
the
proposed
six-story
mixed-use
building,
including
250
residential
units,
ground
floor
retail
and
below
grade
parking.
The
alley
was
originally
dedicated
in
1918
was
later
rededicated
through
several
several
documents.
Up
until
1925.,
we
have
found
no
record.
This
alley
was
ever
previously
vacated
prior
to
the
construction
of
the
existing
Bank
building,
and
this
is
uh
what
you
were
referencing
before
alleys
that
you
never
knew
were
allies.
But
this
is
a
paper
alley
that
runs
actually
from
South
Glebe
Road
through
to
South
Lincoln
Street.
M
As
far
as
we
know,
the
alley
has
not
been
used
for
Alley
purposes,
since
at
least
the
construction
of
the
Bank
building
and,
in
conclusion,
I
recommend
to
the
Transportation
Commission
that
you
find
that
the
proposed
vacation
of
a
portion
of
a
12-foot
alley
running
Southwest
from
South
Glebe
Road
towards
South
Lincoln
Street
along
the
parcel
lines
between
lot
9
and
parts
of
lots.
1,
2,
12
and
13
block
1
Alcova
Heights
is
substantially
in
accord
with
a
comprehensive
plan,
including
the
master
Transportation
plan
of
Arlington
County
I'm.
Happy
to
answer
any
questions.
C
My
only
thought
is
a
little
surprise:
we're
not
declaring
this
Alia
historic
resource
for
Arlington
County
in
1918.
We
don't
hear
that
number
very
often
around
here.
uh
Any
other
commissioner
comments,
whether
joking
or
serious,
or
questions
all
right.
Let's
see
if
I
can
get
this
right.
So
all
we
really
need
to
do
is
find
that
it's
in
Accord,
with
the
with
the
MTP
all
right
and
I'll
stop
doing
the
other
stuff.
That's
not
us!
C
All
right
uh
I
moved
that
the
Transportation
Commission
to
find
that
the
proposed
vacation
of
a
portion
of
a
12-foot
alley
um
is
substantially
oh
look
at.
That
uh
is
substantially
in
accord
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
including
the
master
Transportation
plan
of
Arlington
County
Virginia,
as
outlined
uh
more
specifically
in
our
draft
board
report.
C
N
N
N
um
The
main
purpose
of
this
presentation
tonight
is
to
introduce
you
to
the
project,
share
our
overall
project
and
engagement,
timelines
and
answer
questions
that
you
might
have
about
the
project
at
this
stage.
It
is
a
three-year
project,
so
we're
not
going
away
anytime
soon
and
there
are
definitely
different
stages
of
it.
That
I
look
forward
to
describing
to
you
first
off
I
wanted
to
ground
Us
in
the
MTP.
The
original
Grant
request
and
the
spirit
of
this
project
is
in
fulfillment
of
MTP
parking
and
curb
space
element
policy.
Five
utilize
parking
meter
pricing
strategies.
N
N
It
and
keep
pressing
the
button.
um
There
are
other
ways
to
go
about
this,
but
this
is
the
a
solution
that
was
procured
to
to
solve
for
this,
to
give
us
a
chance
to
test
something
out.
The
purpose
of
this
project
is
to
improve
the
user
experience
with
metered
parking
spaces
on
the
curb
in
in
our
two
key
commercial
and
multi-family
residential
corridors.
N
um
To
share
useful
information
about
parking
options
in
real
time
for
folks
who
are
using
those
spaces
and
to
reduce
the
negative
impacts
associated
with
the
search
for
metered
parking.
So
this
could
be
cruising
double
parking
going
somewhere
else
to
do
business.
So
there's
an
array
of
experiences
we
all
have
trying
to
find
parking
spaces
on
the
curb.
N
The
um
oh
before
I
leave
that
slide,
though
I
do
want
to
mention
what
this
project
does
not
do.
um
This
project
does
not
seek
to
increase
overall
parking
revenue,
and
um
we
might
hear
that
as
a
question
from
the
community
as
we
go
forward.
That
is
not
a
goal
of
this
project,
and
it's
not
even
necessarily
an
outcome
that
we
will
see
it
does
not
increase.
Is,
is
not
anticipated
to
increase
all
metered
parking
rates
across
the
board.
N
So
what
we're
going
to
see
with
occupancy
information
is
areas
where
Park
metered
parking
may
be
underutilized
in
areas
where
it's
over
utilized
and
by
tweaking
prices
up
and
down.
That's
how
we're
going
to
shift
demand
other
parts
of
town
um
we
also
are
not
anticipating
decreasing
the
number
of
reserved
Ada
accessible
parking
spaces,
so
those
spaces
on
the
street
are
part
of
our
metered
parking
inventory.
As
you
probably
know,
they
pay
the
same
rates
that
everyone
else
does
in
our
flat
rate
system
that
we
have
today.
N
They
are
a
part
of
this
project,
so
we're
going
to
be
putting
the
occupancy
sensors
in
them
and
we're
going
to
learn
about
them,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
decreasing
their
availability
and
in
fact
we
might
learn
more
about
their
their
varied
availability
to
customers,
depending
on
where
they
are
in
town
um
and
finally,
I
wanted
to
mention
that
this
is
not
a
project
that
creates
dynamically
or
fast
changing
pricing.
All
a
hot
Lane.
That's
not
going
to
happen
here.
N
N
N
For
instance,
this
project
is
just
on-street
metered
parking
spaces,
the
potential
for
a
few
areas
of
off
Street
space.
But
these
are
our
metered
parking
spaces.
We
have
other
curb
space
uses
that
could
benefit
from
occupancy
information.
That's
more
detailed,
for
instance,
our
loading
areas,
um
short-term
pickup,
drop-off
areas,
and
so
those
are
not
a
part
of
this
study
today,
but
they
could
be
something
we
could
apply
this
technology
to
in
the
future.
N
I
want
to
give
you
a
little
sense
of
the
technology
that
we're
using
um
one
critical
piece:
are
these
stall
occupancy
sensors?
This
is
a
small
device.
It
gets
they
core
drill,
a
small
hole
in
the
center
of
a
parking
space.
They
drop
this
little
sensor
in
and
cover
it
over
with
epoxy.
So
you
can
kind
of
see
the
final
outcome.
It's
just
a
little
black
dot
on
the
parking
space.
We
do
have
to
delineate
spaces
for
this
project.
N
We
don't
do
that
as
a
standard
today
in
that,
so
that
will
be
new
something
new
people
will
see
on
the
street
new
lines
separating
parking
spaces,
it's
necessary
to
make
this
kind
of
occupancy
detection
the
most
efficient
possible
and
the
most
accurate
possible.
Otherwise
the
cars
might
not
be
over
the
sensors,
um
but
but
that's
the
extent
of
how
we
know
if
a
car
is
there
or
not-
and
that's
all
this
sensor
does
this
is
in
camera
technology,
it's
just
car,
yes
Carno,
and
with
that
car,
yes,
car.
N
No,
we
also
get
duration
of
stay.
How
long
is
the
car
sitting
there
and
that's
going
to
be
pretty
cool,
because
that's
going
to
help
us
know
if
a
two
hour
meter
is
being
used
for
two
hour
blocks
of
time
or
if
it's
being
used
for
four
hour
blocks
of
time
or
if
it's
being
used
for
10
minute
blocks
of
time,
because
we'll
have
that
information
from
these
sensors,
the
second
key
piece
of
technology-
that's
a
part
of
this
project
are
Wireless
gateways.
N
These
are
what
communicate
the
data
from
the
sensors
to
the
cloud,
while
there's
a
sensor
in
every
space
and
our
Network
at
build
out
will
be
about
4
500
parking
spaces
in
these
corridors.
The
wireless
gateways
are
fewer
and
farther
between
and
they
will
by
and
large,
be
mounted
to
existing
traffic
signal,
poles
and
other
infrastructure
that
ideally,
the
county
owns.
So
we
are
in
the
process
of
Designing
that
Network,
so
that
we
get
optimal
coverage
with
the
least
amount
of
infrastructure
possible.
N
These
gateways
use
low
power,
um
it
very
low
power,
both
the
sensors
and
the
gateways.
These
are
designed
to
last
for,
like
10
years,
without
touching
them
they're,
not
rotating
batteries
out
every
month
or
so
so
we
can
put
these
up
on
a
traffic
poll
and
ideally
not
touch
it
again
for
a
really
long
time.
N
N
The
overall
approach
to
the
project
um
uh
I
alluded
to
this
a
moment
ago.
This
is
basically
an
iterative
process.
The
first
um
the
first
year,
which
is
starting
now,
is
a
combination
of
public
Outreach
and
education
on
what
the
project
is:
equipment,
installation
and
getting
the
system
up
and
running,
and
then
we
are
going
to
gather
data.
So,
ideally,
we
get
into
a
fully
a
fully
operable
sensor
system
we're
using
that
data
to
understand
occupancy.
N
N
um
So
we
are
in
year,
one
we
are
at
project
launch.
We
are
just
about
with
this
meeting
really
starting
our
um
public
education
and
engagement
process.
The
goal
of
this
stage
of
the
process
is
continuing
on
the
back
end,
to
do
our
system
planning
the
logistics,
the
permitting
processes
so
that
we
can
get
Hardware
deployed
on
the
street,
but
on
the
front
end
of
what
the
public
is
seeing,
making
sure
people
are
aware
of
the
project
that
they
get
their
questions
answered.
N
They
have
some
understanding
of
the
technology
and
the
goals,
and
also
so
that
we
get
some
feedback
from
the
public
on
prioritization
of
goals.
So
there
might
be
people
who
are
more
price
sensitive.
There
might
be
people
who
are
more
convenient
sensitive.
There
might
be
feedback
um
from
the
business
Community
about
a
concern
relative
to
their
customers,
parking
access
and
the
kinds
of
features
of
the
customer
experience
that
are
related
to
them.
N
So
one
of
the
key
features
of
our
Outreach
is
it's
business
forward,
we're
starting
there,
because
these
metered
parking
spaces
are,
by
and
large,
in
front
of
a
lot
of
business
activity
and
they're
going
to
be
a
lot
of
the
people
who
have
questions
first,
so
in
Winter
and
early
spring,
which
is
what
we're
beginning
now.
In
addition
to
our
software
planning,
we
are
actually
implementing
a
demonstration
site
and
that
demonstration
site
is
the
courthouse
Plaza
parking
lot.
So
we
we
started
trying
to
put
some
equipment
in
last
weekend.
There
were
some
logistical
hiccups.
N
The
technology
is
how
we
understand
the
data
there
is
on
the
on
as
an
end
result
customer
available
data
interface,
where
they
can
see
availability
of
parking
too.
So
it's
not
just
that
the
prices
will
change,
but
the
people
will
be
able
to
access
through
apis
and
web
interfaces
that
we
provide
or
potentially
third
parties
to,
the
visibility
of
access
to
parking
as
well.
N
um
So
we're
hoping
that
the
demo
site
helps
to
illuminate
a
little
bit
of
that
get
people's
taste
buds
ready
for
it.
So
to
speak
and
generate
more
questions,
um
and
we
are
already
starting
with
this
meeting
and
through
February
and
March,
engaging
our
business
stakeholders
and
stakeholder
groups
um
with
the
project
in
early
to
mid
spring.
N
um
So
that's
what
happens
in
our
late
spring
into
summer.
Those
businesses
are
being
greeted.
We
are
experiencing
short-term
parking
closures
as
we
roll
through,
and
do
these
really
quick
sensor
installations
um
and
basically
again
answering
a
lot
of
questions
and
trying
to
keep
the
project
moving
as
quickly
as
we
can
and
then
once
All
Those,
sensors
and
gateways
are
installed
were
from
the
summer
through
the
fall
and
winter.
We
are
collecting
data,
we're
calibrating
and
testing
our
software.
N
We're
testing
conceptual
pricing
scenarios
and
we're
measuring
the
anticipated
impacts
and
sharing
what
we're
seeing
with
the
community
before
we
make
any
changes.
No
changes
in
pricing
can
happen
until
we
come
forward
to
the
board,
with
an
ordinance
right
now,
as
you're
probably
familiar
the
ordinance
about
parking
meter.
N
So
what
we
envision
is
that
ordinance
will
allow
us
from
roughly
January
1
2024
until
two
years
out
to
do
this
up
to
quarterly
kinds
of
changes
and
communicate
with
the
community
on
it,
with
the
goal
of
reaching
the
end
of
that
testing
period,
with
a
much
greater
understanding
of
how
these
things
interact
and
another
follow-up
request
for
an
ordinance
and
I
can't
even
tell
you
what
that
that
second
ordinance.
This
will
look
like
because
I'm
not
sure
what
we're
going
to
learn
yet.
N
So
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
you
heard
from
us
right
now
about
our
engagement
plan
and
the
goals
that
we
have
for
it.
So
the
engagement
plan
for
this
project
is
robust.
We
are
talking
about
doing
as
inclusive
a
process
as
possible
for
the
folks
who
are
going
to
experience
this
and
who
are
using
these
metered
parking
spaces
and
making
sure
that
we
get
tailored
feedback
at
each
stage
of
the
process.
So
I
mentioned
that
right
now,
it's
feedback
on
the
prioritization
of
these
project
goals.
We're
not
this
isn't.
N
uh
Are
we
doing
the
project
or
not
kind
of
Engagement,
because
we
are
doing
the
project?
It's
a
fully
funded
100
Grant,
there's
no
County,
there's,
not
even
a
county
um
dollar
bills
on
the
table
here.
This
is
this,
is
this
is
um
an
opportunity,
that's
provided
by
the
state's
interest
in
Innovation
and
technology
for
us
to
learn
a
lot
about
uh
the
things
that
are
happening
here
on
the
ground.
N
N
Our
Target
audiences
I
mentioned
businesses
and
the
organizations
along
the
corridor
are
our
first
first
assault,
so
to
speak
on
our
engagement
plan,
Road
Show
and
reaching
our
Parkers.
So
our
engagement
plan
includes
um
the
uh
boots
on
the
ground
in
terms
of
Outreach
folks,
on
on
the
corridors
themselves,
in
the
businesses
talking
to
customers
of
the
businesses,
as
well
as
those
business
employees.
N
um
Later
in
the
process,
we
will
be
trying
to
reach
our
third
party
app
developers.
So
we
want
data
like
this
to
transform
not
just
into
something
that
the
county
has
to
manage,
but
something
that
third
parties
will
be
able
to
take
up
and
use
in
their
applications.
So
maybe
all
we
have
to
provide
is
a
data,
feed
and
others
can
think
creatively
about
how
Parkers
can
use
it.
N
I
also
wanted
to
highlight
that
we're
we're
looking
at
our
engagement
in
terms
of
the
demographic
groups
that
we
can
reach
and
making
sure
that
as
we
go
through
we're
collecting
information,
so
we
can
get
a
sense
of
the
distribution
of
who's
participating
in
the
process.
Essentially,
so
who
are
we
reaching
at
each
stage?
Who's
answering
online
feedback
form
who's
attending
our
meetings.
N
um
And
these
last
slides
are
about
our
engagement,
overview
and
I.
Think
I've
covered
a
lot
of
it,
so
the
this
first
phase
getting
everyone
familiar
with
the
project
and
the
overall
schedule
and
insights
into
the
Public's
priorities.
So
we
have
these
I
have
stakeholder
meetings
scheduled
we're,
providing
a
virtual
public
meeting,
an
online
feedback
form
and
these
pop-ups
in
the
corridors,
as
well
as
our
demonstration
site.
N
um
As
we
transition
to
the
installation
phase
for
for
the
major
um
for
the
bulk
of
the
technology
system,
we
will
be
doing
door-to-door
Outreach
as
that
phases
through.
So
as
you
can,
you
kind
of
imagine
every
street
on
the
corridor
that
we're
hitting
will
have
a
street
team
out
there,
knocking
on
the
doors
of
those
businesses
in
advance
to
make
sure
that
they
know
we're
coming
and
what
it's
going
to
look
like.
N
So
that's
the
overview
of
where
we
are
today
variety
of
the
link
to
our
website.
You
can
just
go
to
the
county
home
page
and
put
in
performance
parking,
and
this
will
be
right
up
there
at
the
top.
The
search
works
really
well
on
the
website,
and
my
contact
information
is
here
as
well
as
our
engagement
core
folks.
We're
really
excited
about
it
and
happy
to
take
questions
or
comments.
C
um
I
just
checked
in
my
email,
the
first
reference
I
can
find
a
performance
parking
is
a
2014
conversation
with
then,
commissioner
Mike
Perkins,
um
and
then
the
first
official
communication
I
can
find
to
the
board
was
a
letter
in
2015
uh
when
the
board
was
Raising
parking,
meter
prices
just
to
close
a
budget
Gap
and
not
for
anything
to
do
with
parking
utilization
um
pushing
for
performance
parking.
So
it's
been
a
long
time
coming,
but
it's
fantastic
to
see
um
and
I'm
excited
for
this
to
move
forward.
J
J
N
No,
there
are
variations,
and
in
some
areas
it
can,
it
can
be
more
Dynamic
and
it
could
in
the
future
for
us,
but
right
now
the
goal
is
to
learn
what
the
patterns
are,
because
at
some
level
um
there's
a
different
kind
of
uh
transparency
that
you
get
and
and
not
everybody
is
parking
with
um
a
nap.
Not
everybody
is
going
to
have.
N
Absolutely
um
that
is
what
we
envision
to
be
able
to
understand
through
the
really
detailed
occupancy
information.
So
yes,
because
that
doesn't
that
doesn't
have
to
dynamically
change,
but
what
it
would
change
is
someone
would
know
if
I'm
parking
in
Clarendon
these
are
the
cheap
hours.
These
are
the
higher
priced
hours
because
of
the
nature
of
the
use
of
that
neighborhood.
J
Okay,
excellent
that
that
goes
a
long
way
to
to
help
help
best
utilize.
You
know
that
public
resource
which
parking
is
um
when
we
do
the
public
engagement,
the
only
thing
I
guess
I
can
warn
you
about
or
um
I'm
a
little
cynical
on
on
how
public
reaction
goes,
the
driving
public
the
same
way
that
they
always
want
an
extra
Lane
on
the
road
to
be
built.
They'll
always
want
free
parking
and
you're
going
to
get
that,
um
and
it
doesn't
matter
how
much
you
explain
it
it's
going
to
be.
J
We
want
to
park
for
free
or
we
don't
want
it
to
be,
go
up
any
higher
than
it
already
is.
For
any
reason,
you
know,
I
want
it
cheap
as
possible.
So
just
be
aware
that
that's
going
to
happen
and
I
know
when
you
come
back
to
us
and
you're
reporting,
these
things,
I
will
not
be
surprised
if
it
says
that
and
it
will
not
change
my
my
opinion
that
this
is
a
great
project
to
go
forward
with
so
anyway.
J
L
Yeah
I
was
just
looking
at
the
uh
extensive
public
engagement
plans.
He
had
and
I
was
thinking
about
methodologically
how
it
might
work,
because
this
is
essentially
a
data
collection
exercise,
and
then
you
have
like
the
Hawthorne
effect
when
people
know
they're
being
observed,
will
their
will
their
behavior
change?
So
this
might
be
a
scenario
where
it
might
be
better
to
have
less
public
engagement.
I
know,
I
know,
that's
not
the
popular
thing
to
say,
but
um
and
I
mean
also
it's
like
uh
two
years
is
is
can
be
a
long
time.
L
You
know
in
the
context
on
the
street
can
change
the
demand.
Can
change,
there's
going
to
be
projects
that
are
done
that
are
completed.
That
will
create
more
demands,
so
so
I
mean
um
I.
Don't
lend
me
the
people
that
set
this
up
methodologically
because
it
seems
kind
of
like
a
hard
thing
to
do
so.
That
was
just
my
comments.
I
I
If
you
tell
if
you
tell
people
what
you're
doing
then
they're
going
to
adapt
their
behavior
to
um
to
adjust
to
that,
but
I
think
you
also
by
telling
them
again,
I
I
think
it's
the
right
idea,
because
otherwise
you
get
rid
of
these
conspiracy
theories
about
what's
going
on
on
the
on
the
pavement,
but
but
I'm
also
sort
of
interested
I'm
in
full
disclosure.
I
don't
have
a
car,
so
I
don't
do
a
lot
of
parking,
um
but
what
you
think
the
stakeholder
priorities
might
I
mean?
What
do
you
anticipate?
N
We
actually-
and
this
actually
speaks
a
bit
to
Mr
lansomy's
comment.
um
It
will
be
interesting
to
see
how
the
stakeholders
have
a
discussion
and
a
thoughtful
process
around
their
their
competing
interests,
because
we
know
that
while
I
would
love
free
and
convenient
parking,
free
and
right
in
front
of
the
place
that
I'm
going,
but
we
can't
actually
get
both
they're
quite
income
conflict
with
one
another,
so
we
expect
to
hear
those
competing
interests
and
to
hear
a
conversation
around
them.
N
So
our
hope
is
that
out
of
the
list
of
related,
but
um
but
slightly
different
priorities
for
the
curb
that
we
get
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
and
it
might,
it
might
even
pan
out
to
be
neighborhood
by
neighborhood
piece
of
corridor
by
Corridor
some
sense
of
what
are
the
the
biggest
priorities.
Is
it
convenience
and
reducing
cruising
and
search
costs?
That's
the
most
important.
Are
people
willing
to
pay
a
premium
for
that
and
how
far
are
people
willing
to
walk
to
get
to
their
location?
Is
it
a
block?
N
um
We
do
think
that
having
better
data
about
availability,
if
you've
got
an
app
that
can
tell
you,
your
space
is
only
two
blocks
from
your
destination,
even
though
you
wouldn't
have
thought
to
turn
there
that
that
kind
of
thing
could
make
a
big
difference
and
they
save
money,
so
they
can
actually
pay
less,
maybe
than
today
and
walk
a
short
distance
to
their
destination.
So
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
fun
conversation
in
that
respect,
because
it's
putting
it
all
on
the
table.
N
O
N
Be
part
of
that
yeah
um
I,
don't
know.
I
can't
speak
yet,
because
I
haven't
really
seen
how
our
software
will
produce
data
yet,
but
I
we're
going
to
have
the
data
to
analyze
and
we're
going
to
have
a
couple
different
dashboard
tools
that
come
out
of
this.
Some
that
are
staff
facing
and
some
that
are
public
facing,
um
so
we're
still
learning
a
bit
about
what
that's
all
going
to
look
like
and
what
format
that
we'll
all
be
in.
N
But
ultimately
it's
it's
for
the
good
of
understanding
and
there
isn't
um
a
protection
around
that.
So
if
we
can
make
the
data
available
in
data
sets
that
are
useful
to
folks
for
analysis,
we
will
be
able
to
we'll
do
that.
um
The
the
most
useful
application
that
we
can
think
of
is
an
API
that
provides
it
live
that
others
who
are
developing
apps
can
use
to
actually
push
out
to
customers
who
are
just
regular
Parkers
rather
than
people
who
are
doing
data
analysis,
but
I
think
we'll
have
it
in
several
forms.
Ultimately,.
O
N
So,
in
a
sense,
that's
that's
always
a
possibility,
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
um
might
come
up.
That's
sort
of
related
to
that,
but
I'll
just
put
it
in
in
terms
of
we
have
many
competing
interests
in
the
curb,
and
so,
if
we
see
in
some
areas
that
it's
high
demand
parking
but
we're
talking
about
10,
minute
turnover
in
a
two-hour
spot,
the
staff
recommendation
that
comes
out
of
that
might
be
turning
it
into
15-minute
parking
space
which
we
don't
use
as
metered
space.
N
N
C
Thank
you,
yeah
I
feel
like
another
use.
We're
always
looking
for
right
is
like.
Sometimes
we
have
this
like.
Where
do
the
tour
buses
go,
and
you
know
where?
Where
can
you
park
things
like
that
um
and
often
they're
willing
to
go
out
of
their
way
a
bit?
So
if
we
find
there's
some
block,
that
has
just
not
enough
parking
demand
for
a
meter,
maybe
that's
a
place
that
can
be
designated
to
our
bus
parking
or
things
like
that.
C
J
Please,
as
far
part
of
the
Outreach,
you
also
you
mentioned
you're,
going
to
all
the
retailers
along
those
streets
which
is
great.
They
really
need
to
be
brought
in
and
sat
down
and
talked
through,
and
my
understanding
is
from.
Other
cities
have
gone
through
this.
The
retailer
retailers
generally
are
just
totally
opposed
to
the
whole
idea.
They
hate
it.
They
hate
it.
They
hate
it
until
it's
implemented
when
it's
implemented,
they
end
up
loving
it
because
it
works
um
and
their
customers
can
actually
Park
and
get
in.
J
um
But
it's
it
takes
the
experience
for
them
to
really
fully
appreciate
it.
So
I
would
not
be
surprised
if
you're
going
to
run
into
a
lot
of
resistance
from
from
the
retailers,
because
it
is
such
a
it's.
Almost
a
counter-intuitive
um
uh
concept
for
a
lot
of
people,
so
you'll
be
prepared
for
that
sort
of
resistance.
Yeah.
N
I
I
bet,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
like
about
at
least
the
design
of
the
rollout
of
this,
is
that
no
one
is
going
to
see
any
changes
for
a
while.
So
we've
got
time
both
to
work
with
them
to
help
give
them
the
tools
to
understand
the
principles,
but
also
we
will
have
a
period
in
which
we
can
collect
data
and
talk
about
scenarios
and
the
ways
that
those
might
influence
behavior
before
we
even
start
making
changes.
J
You
be
talking
to
the
bids
yeah
because
getting
them
on
board
they'll
get
it
I'm,
pretty
sure.
The
leadership
of
the
bids
will
understand
this
really
quickly
and
got
on
board
I
think
that
could
be
a
real,
useful
tool
to
reaching
um
getting
a
consensus
and
reaching
the
retailers,
uh
because
the
work
I've
done
with
the
bids
they
get
this
sort
of
thing.
They
really
do
understand
it.
So
I'm
definitely
definitely
work
closely
with
them.
N
So
it
covers
all
of
our
metered
parking
spaces
and
where
we
have
metered
Tour,
Bus
Parking,
which
we
do
have
um
that's
actually
included
um
in
this
initial
in
this
initial
pilot
spaces
that
we
don't
currently
meter
for
parking
such
as
loading
zones,
pickup
drop-off,
those
are
not
currently
included,
okay
and
and
that's
where
we
might
see
expansion
in
the
future.
If
we,
if
we
find
that
this
is
useful
data
and
the
system
works.
N
N
If
we
see
areas
of
metered
sort
of
two
or
more
hour,
metered
parking
that
have
a
lot
of
turnover,
we
can
also
do
some
spot
checks
and
see
if
that
turnover
is
because
we've
got
a
bunch
of
box
trucks
and
other
things
like
that
doing
loading
activity
in
what
would
normally
be
a
metered
space,
and
that
would
be
a
learning
experience
for
us,
but
we
we
certainly
don't
with
this
technology,
know
what
kind
of
vehicle
it
is.
Okay,.
P
N
I
N
um
I
wanted
to
also
make
sure
that
you,
you
didn't
miss
the
fact
that
last
summer
we
did
a
follow-up
data
collection
effort
from
the
RPP
review,
so
back
in
2016,
17
18
19
ish.
There
was
Data
collected
for
that
process
to
understand
the
occupancy
of
both
RPP
spaces,
so
residential,
permit
parking
program,
spaces
um
on
Street
those
blocks
relative
to
metered
and
unregulated
space,
and
what
we
did
this
past
year
was
a
follow-up
study
that
included
new
measurements
of
residential
permit
parking
programs
streets.
N
So
it
didn't
include
those
other
types,
but
this
was
another
look
in
at
how
these
streets
were
performing
and
we
did
two
types
of
data
collection.
One
was
a
census
of
Ballston,
so
that's
all
of
the
RPP
streets
and
that
sort
of
fall
into
that
neighborhood
and
then
a
statistical
sampling
approach,
stratified
sampling
of
the
other
neighborhoods
that
had
been
sampled
in
the
past.
N
N
um
So
this
is
a
quick
picture
of
the
the
areas
that
were
studied
and
those
um
so
there's
the
Boston
area,
kind
of
highlighted
in
total
and
the
streets
that
are
dark
are
the
streets
that
we
collected.
Data
on
this
was
a
Thursday
and
Saturday
in
April
of
last
year
using
a
license
plate
reader
technology.
So
all
of
these
data
were
collected
using
LPR
drive-bys
that
we
had
to
then
sometimes
do
over
if
they
didn't
do
a
good
job.
The
first
time
there
was
a
lot
of
data
cleaning
in
this
process.
N
um
The
routes
were
driven
to
capture
each
desired
facility,
every
two
hours
a
day
between
8
AM
and
10
pm,
and
so
this
gave
us
a
total
of
2296
occupancy
observations
for
this
area,
which
represents
about
14
observations
for
each
facility.
The
facility
is
like
a
blocked
face.
You
can
kind
of
Envision
it
that
way
um
for
the
other
sampling
approach.
This
is
the
other
neighborhoods
that
were
studied
last
time
um
same
idea
same
purpose.
N
The
main
difference
was
that
we
did
instead
of
a
census,
a
stratified
sampling,
because
there's
just
so
much
ground
to
cover.
Essentially
um
these.
um
This
is
a
depiction
of
those
sampled
areas,
and
um
so
you
can
see
they
kind
of
hit
on
different
parts
of
the
county
and
there's
a
lot
of
streets
to
cover.
So
in
this
case
the
these
data
were
collected
in
April
and
May
of
last
year.
N
That's
not
actually
parked
and
there's
a
lot
of
um
checking
back
against
the
pictures
and
then
the
data
to
see
if
it
was
correct
or
not
um
pretty
pretty
time
consuming
actually,
um
but
out
of
all
that,
it's
it's
a
useful
touch
Point.
um
So
the
key
findings
were
that
the
majority
of
observations
on
these
RPP
facilities
showed
occupancy
of
less
than
85
percent,
with
many
at
60
or
less,
and
the
um
the
benchmarks
here
are
that
we
were
using
groupings
of
percentile
ranges
0
to
60
61,
to
85
and
over
85..
N
N
um
So
that's
generally
it
it's
it's
expect.
We
want
to
see
RPP
working
and
that's
what
this
is
showing
us
is
that
when
it's
under
when
it's
controlled
we're
seeing
fewer
um
over
occupied
uh
facilities
in
the
other
study
areas
between
two
and
seven
percent
of
all,
observations
showed
occupancy
higher
than
85
percent
less
than
one
percent
on
those
RPP
facilities.
N
We're
on
those
RPP
pardon
me
less
than
one
percent
reach
that
threshold
on
the
facilities
during
their
restricted
hours,
um
and
so
in
a
majority
of
study
areas,
the
mean
occupancy
either
decreased
or
stayed
the
same
compared
to
the
previous
study
year.
So
compared
to
the
data
that
we
collected
back
during
the
RPP
review
and
the
major
exception
was
actually
Columbia
Pike,
where
the
management
type
had
changed
from
RPP
to
unmanaged
and
we
actually
saw
the
occupancy
increase
there,
which
would
be
as
expected,.
N
And
that
sorry
I
think
most
screens
still
there
we
go.
So
those
are
the
highlights
that
I
wanted
to
share
without
getting
into
too
much
technical
detail,
um
but
it
I
think
it's
it's
important.
It's
follow-up.
We
commit
to
as
a
as
a
part
of
the
process
of
managing
the
program,
and
it
does
indicate
that
the
RPP
regulations
are
doing
what
they
are
expected
to
do
um
and
we're
happy
to
bring
back
more
detail.
If
it's
something
you're
interested
in
hearing
more
about
in
the
future.
J
Tell
me
it's
more
I'm,
not
surprised
that
Ballston
had
some
streets
that
outside
the
hours
or
85
above
85
or
above
um
that,
when
we've
done
sprc's
in
that
area.
That
comes
up-
um
and
it's
been
a
common
observation
by
that
civic
association
um
and
I've,
seen
it
myself
when
I've
gone
through
there.
It's
like
yeah
those
streets
are
really
pretty
packed.
It's
people
coming
back
from
work
um
and
that's
that's
when
they
park,
because
it's
outside
the
nine
to
five
or
eight
to
five
hours
of
the
RPP
for
them,
which
covers
most
of
that.
J
So
you
know
that
again.
That
doesn't
surprise
me.
um
It
would
come
up
depending
on
how
missing
middle
gets
implemented.
If
it
does,
um
this
could
very
well
come
up
when
requests
for
different
sizes
and
how
the
parking
is
is
adopted
by
the
county.
So
this
study
is
very
timely.
When
was
this
done?
Was
it
I
may
have
missed
that?
You
may
have
said
it.
Was
it
pre-pandemic
or.
H
N
J
C
N
N
And
and
I
encourage
you
to
explore
the
full
report,
because
there
are
maps
for
a
point
in
the
neighborhoods
and
what
you
can
see
is
it's
color
coded,
so
the
the
segments,
the
facilities
that
stay
are
color
coded
by
those
um
uh
percent
amounts.
So
you
can
see
the
ones
pop
out
in
one
color
when
they
go
over
the
85
percent
and
um
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
an
exciting
opportunity.
With
data
like
this
is
we
could
use
it
to
say
hey
if
that
block
face.
N
um
Let's
call
it
underperforming
block
face,
um
we
can
go
in
and
see
we
can
collaborate
with
the
PSAs
see
what's
going
on
there,
because
it
could
be
a
combination
of
things.
It
could
be
people
parking
who
are
not
um
permitted
and
it's
an
enforcement
sort
of
Target
issue,
but
it
also
could
be
that
there
are
households
that
happen
to
own
a
lot
of
cars.
Because
again,
each
of
these
facilities
are
small,
potentially
they
could
only.
They
may
only
hold
a
few
cars
and
when
it's
full,
it's
full
with
just
a
few
cars.
N
We
are
just
starting
to
get
some
new
petitions
now
out
of
the
everything
was
put
on
hold
during
the
review
um
and
I
think
people
are
starting
to
come
out
of
covet
and
think.
Okay,
what
are
the
things
that
we
can
do
together
to
make
the
the
streets
perform
better
and,
and
so
those
petition
efforts
would
based
on
these
data
anyway,
potentially
result
in
improved
performance
on
their
streets.
If
there's
an
actual
problem
there
today,
great.
C
N
Let
me
um
let
me
follow
up
with
the
link
because
I'm
pretty
sure,
if
you
Googled
RPP
occupancy
study
on
the
I,
say
Googled
in
that
very
generic
way,
but
you
know
searched
in
the
search
box
at
the
top
of
the
of
the
webpage
you'd
find
it
it's
going
to
be
out
at
the
parking
pages,
but
I
just
can't
I
don't
have
the
link
in
the
slide
deck
you're
right.
You.
A
Next
on
the
agenda,
we
have
Arlington
Transit
art,
zero
emissions,
bus
study
with
Carly
Macias
from
HDR.
We
have
kimbling
horn
consultants
and
we
have
several
County
Des
leadership
staff
on
hand
as
well.
That
would
be
Mike
Moon,
Greg,
Emanuel
and
Wei
Wong.
Also,
we
have
some
other
staff
members
that
I
need
to
mention
here
and
they
are
Dimitra
McBride
and
Pierre
Holloman.
R
Q
Yes,
I
can
thank
you
so
much
great
um
okay,
we'll
dive
into
it
quickly.
um
We
deeply
appreciate
the
commission's
time
and
attention
to
the
County's
carbon
neutral,
Transportation
efforts
both
near
and
long
term.
The
art
bus
feasibility
study
is
intended
to
inform
phases
of
decision
making
that
will
decarbonize
the
movement
of
people,
services
and
goods
in
and
through
Arlington
County.
Q
Ultimately,
the
study
strike
the
seeks
to
strike
a
balance
on
County
priorities,
including
continuity,
quality
and
reliability
of
service
attainment
of
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions
reduction
goals,
measurements
that
include
Cradle
to
grade
factors
and
externalities
operational
schedules
and
capacities
for
the
amof
and
our
beb.
That's
battery
electric
bus
charging
infrastructure
resiliency
planning
to
test
the
potential
for
a
diversified
Fleet
that
adapts
to
critical
challenges
and
furtherance
of
equity
commitments
to
Transit
dependent
populations.
Q
uh
Coming
before
you
and
the
not
too
far
distant
future
are
integrated
and
cross-walked
efforts.
This
includes.
Actually
the
new
title
is
the
carbon
neutral,
Transportation
master
plan
for
Arlington
County.
The
deck
transplant
will
provide
a
strategy
for
lowering
our
emissions,
it's
going
to
cover
County
fleet
vehicles,
privately
owned
vehicles
and
commercial
vehicles.
Very
importantly,
it's
going
to
have
a
master
strategy,
a
five-year
strategic
plan
and
also,
very
importantly,
the
charging
infrastructure
master
plan
that
would
be
countywide.
Q
R
Great
thanks,
Demetra
and
again
I'm
Carly
Macias
I'm,
with
HDR
um
kind
of
presenting
to
you
tonight.
um
Some
of
the
initial
results.
We
were
going
to
start
with
kind
of
a
we
like
to
call
it
zero
Mission
bus
101,
um
because
we're
short
on
time
I
might
just
speed
through
this,
and
you
all
can
ask
questions
if
you'd
like
to
um
so
I'm
going
to
move
through
this
pretty
quickly.
Please
stop
me
if
you
want
to
talk
about
anything
um
so
just
to
kind
of
start
us
out.
R
We
wanted
to
get
everyone
on
the
same
page
in
terms
of
the
different
bus
types.
um
So
a
diesel
bus
and
a
CNG
bus
both
run
off
of
fuel.
Obviously
one's
using
diesel.
One
is
CNG,
um
it
has
an
internal
combustion
engine.
A
battery
electric
bus
and
a
hydrogen
fuel
cell
bus
actually
have
a
lot
in
common
with
each
other.
R
One
of
the
big
challenges
is
understanding
the
range
that
you
can
get
out
of
these
vehicles,
um
so
part
of
the
challenge
is
just
really
understanding
what
you're
getting,
even
if
you
think,
you're
buying
a
440
kilowatt
hour
battery,
which
is
pretty
large.
That
should
get
you
about
200
miles,
but
you
don't
really
have
access
to
the
100
of
that
battery.
um
So
some
of
it's
reserved
for
longevity
and
then
the
last
10
percent
is
really
degraded
performance.
R
R
R
um
So
there
are
three
types
of
battery
electric
bus
charging,
um
so
this
will
kind
of
help
with
the
the
later
parts
of
the
presentation.
um
So
there's
slow,
Depot
charging
where
you
kind
of
charging
your
facility
overnight
and
then
there's
uh
fast
charging
where
you
can
kind
of
charge,
while
you're
in
service
or
on
Route,
at
a
major
Transit
Center
when
you're
already
having
a
layover
um
so
that
you
have
that
conductive
charging.
That's
the
overhead,
pantograph
or
inductive
wireless
charging,
that's
embedded
in
the
pavement.
R
um
These
are
some
of
the
kind
of
benefits
and
challenges
of
hydrogen
fuel
cell
buses,
which
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
in
detail
um
and
then
just
a
little
bit
about
hydrogen
fuel
sources.
This
is
really
the
biggest
challenge
with
hydrogen
fuel
cell
buses
is
getting
that
source
of
hydrogen.
Sorry.
Was
there
a
question?
R
um
So
our
team
uh
did
some
zero
Mission
bus
route
modeling
in
order
to
understand
how
different
types
of
buses
would
operate
um
in
the
art
service
in
the
local
climate
kind
of
understanding,
the
the
con,
the
average
weather
temperatures
and
things
like
that.
um
So
we
tested
it
a
couple:
different
um
scenarios
where
we
looked
at
different
types
of
vehicles,
different
battery
sizes,
um
electric
heater
versus
a
diesel
heater.
R
R
um
You
know
that
that
problem
might
be
solved
later
with
a
technological
advancements,
but
right
now
um
it's
definitely
still
a
challenge,
but
with
hydrogen
fuel
cell
buses
you
could
do
a
one
for
one
replacement
with
CNG
buses
um
and
then
on.
Route
charging
uh
would
also
increase
the
range,
um
but
it's
definitely
going
to
be
a
challenge
in
terms
of
just
um
the
need
to
have.
R
You
know
land
to
put
these
and
lots
of
governmental
agreements
if
you're
going
to
share
sites
with
other
agencies
um
or
put
a
charger
on
a
site
that
you
don't
own
um
So.
Based
on
all
of
this
analysis
that
we've
done,
um
we've
come
up
with
a
phase
transition
plan,
um
so
the
first
phase
is
not
actually
purchasing
zero,
Mission
buses,
but
it's
still
a
very
um
important
element.
R
S
I'm
here,
I
could
just
quickly
go
through
this.
It's
just.
uh
This
is
a
state
of
our
current
Fleet.
We
do
have
15
Nabi
buses
that
need
to
be
replaced.
Nabi
uh
is
no
longer
in
business
as
the
flunk
bus
company
manufacturer
company.
As
you
can
see,
we
are
spending
a
lot
on
maintenance
calls
to
keep
these
buses
in
operation
and
they
haven't
been
reliable
in
terms
of
keeping
them
in
service
at
only
67
of
the
time
since
June
30th,
and
we
are
the
the
useful
life.
R
R
um
All
the
other
challenge
is
that
you
can't
really
deploy
better
electric
buses
until
the
aomf
facility
is
prepared
to
basically
charge
those
buses.
I
mean
that
won't
happen
until
2025,
but
there
is
a
potential
to
fuel
um
some
of
the
the
new
CNG
buses
coming
in
could
be
filled
with
renewable
natural
gas
and
we'll
actually
talk
about
this.
A
little
bit
later.
On
um
so
phase
two
is
conducting
a
zero
Mission
bus
pilot
program
um
so
really
uh
piloting
both
battery
electric
buses
and
hydrogen
fuel
cell
buses
in
2025
and
2026.
R
Going
okay,
um
so
in
2023
um
those
CNG
buses
will
be
will
be
purchased
in
2025
and
six.
um
The
pilot
program
um
will
get
um
going
starting
in
2028,
um
art
will
no
longer
purchase
uh
CNG
vehicles
and
starting
in
2029,
all
of
the
cngs
will
be
fueled
with
renewable
natural
gas
and
then
in
2038
you
get
to
a
100
zero
Mission,
Fleet
um
I
will
point
out
um
starting
in
2031.
R
You
do
see
that
um
the
number
of
buses
will
um
go
beyond
the
facility
capacity
because
of
that
ratio
of
better
electric
buses
to
um
to
CNG
buses.
um
So
that's
going
to
be
a
challenge
that
you
know.
Maybe
this
this
problem
is
put
off
by
technological
advancements,
um
but
it
will
be
um
something
that
uh
the
the
art
staff
will
have
to
think
about
is
possibly
um
expanding
a
facility
or
buying
another
facility.
R
R
um
So
just
quickly
um
we
looked
at
on
greenhouse
gas
emissions
um
as
the
transition
occurred.
um
So
you
can
see
um
the
the
emissions
are
consistently
coming
down.
Part
of
that
is
by
fueling
those
CNG
buses
with
renewable
natural
gas.
I
mean
you
really
see
a
drop
off
here
in
2029,
because
all
of
those
CNG
buses
will
be
filled
with
RNG.
At
that
point,
um
there's
a
bit
of
an
uptick
um
after
2029,
which
is
interesting,
um
and
that's
because
um
the
battery
electric
buses
are
not
fueled
with
electricity.
R
R
um
All
of
those
you
know-
carbon
monoxide
and
VOC
and
particular
era
and
Sox
uh
emissions
will
go
to
zero
in
2038
with
the
um
100
zero
Mission
bus
transition,
but
you
will
still
have
some
low
levels
of
particulate
matter
um
just
from
the
operation
of
the
buses.
You
know
with
the
tires
and
the
brake
pads
and
uh
small
things
like
that.
T
So
it's
not
something
that
is,
you
know,
is
out
in
some
some
distant
place
that
we're
taking
advantage
of
remotely
it
provides
both
a
solid
which
you
see
at
the
bottom
of
the
slide,
but
also
a
renewable
natural
gas
or
biogas.
That
is
um
in
the
middle
of
the
slide,
showing
them
by
the
Recycled
symbol.
T
And
so
this
is,
this
slide,
provides
a
quick
look
inside
the
process.
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
this
in
detail,
but
I
would
note
that
the
process
we're
using
at
the
water
pollution
control
plant
is
anaerobic
digestion.
It's
the
same
plant
process
used
by
DC
water
at
the
blue
Plains
plant,
and
it
produces
the
the
uh
the
gas
that
we're
we're
discussing
tonight.
But
what
has
to
happen
from
the
actual
digester
is?
It
has
to
be
conditioned
or
cleaned
to
be
able
to
do
a
pipeline
injection
um
to
the
standards
of
Washington
gas.
T
So,
as
you
move
from
left
to
right,
you'll
see
the
gas
and
how
it
migrates
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
the
the
boxes,
but
I
would
note
to
the
far
right.
The
exhaust
has
no
methane
exhaust
coming
from
the
the
uh
the
exhaust
system
and
this
is
a
closed
system.
So
it
doesn't
have
leakage
that
you
might
hear
some
some
talk
about
in
the
gas
industry.
T
um
The
one
thing
too
I
would
note
about
rngs
or
normal
natural
gas
and
we're
planning
to
come
online
with
that
in
2029
at
the
plant.
um
Our
RNG
is
considered
a
biogenic
gas
and
can
be
used
to
offset
greenhouse
gas
reductions.
It
is
produced
by
the
natural
decaying
of
organic
materials
that
would
otherwise
decompose
in
the
environment.
T
The
transit
bureau
chief
who's
with
us
here
tonight
had
a
meeting
with
them
just
today
and
we
think
we
can
secure
easy.
We
now
know
we
can
secure
renewable
natural
gas
in
that
interim
stage
between
2023
and
2029,
when
the
plant
will
come
online
with
an
actual
renewable,
renewable
natural
gas
product
in
the
county.
um
So
we're
pretty
excited
about
that
opportunity
and
I
think
it
really
provides
an
opportunity
for
us
to
really
work
closely
with
our
plant
um
to
to
make
this
happen
next
slide.
T
T
We
are
working
closely
along
with
Montgomery
County
and
some
other
Transit
properties,
with
Washington
Gas
to
to
explore
the
opportunity
for
um
the
clean
hydrogen
that
uh
Carly
Carly
referenced
earlier.
um
But
because
of
that,
uh
we
are
um
in
the
near-term
action
uh
you
that
we
need
to
apply
for
drpt
and
have
actually
done
it.
As
of
yesterday
for
15
CNG
buses
and
then
there's
an
additional
application,
as
Carly
mentioned,
the
four
electric
buses
will
be
in
addition
to
the
78
bus
fleet
that
we
currently
have
and
that
that
application
was
also
submitted.
T
um
These
purchase
purchases
will
allow
art
to
maintain
reliability
um
for
the
art
operations,
which
is
really
critical
for
those
uh
our
portion
of
our
population.
That
really
depends
on
transit
for
their
service,
for
for
their
commute
to
to
work
and
for
multiple
trips
and
I
would
just
note
that
even
some
of
the
agenda
items
you
put
pointed
out
tonight
when
we
talked,
we
really
focused
in
this
presentation
a
lot
about
tailpipe
emissions,
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
but
I
think
really.
When
it
comes
down
to
it.
T
So
it
really
is
important
that
we
we
do
this
action
for
bus
purchases
in
the
interim
and
we're
we're
projecting
to
use
the
renewable
natural
gas
until
we
can
bring
on
um
the
the
renewable
natural
gas
with
the
plant
and
I
think
the
one
other
thing
I
would
point
out
um
in.
In
regard
to
that
Fleet
transition
plan
that
Carly
outlined
to
you.
T
We
are
looking
at
a
zero
emission,
um
full
Fleet,
zero
emissions,
commitment
by
2038
for
the
art
Fleet,
which
is
a
pretty
exciting
goal,
pretty
aspirational
when
you
consider
what
other
Transit
properties
you're
putting
out
there
for
the
entire
fleet.
So
um
with
that
public
briefings
and
public
engagement
um
is
ongoing,
we've
met
with
all
the
groups
tonight,
you're
the
the
last
one,
and
we
continue
to
just
talk
about
this
with
the
various
stakeholders
we
have.
So
with
that,
we'd
be
glad
to
answer
questions
that
the
commission
has.
C
Great,
thank
you.
So
much
um
Commissioners
go
ahead
and
yeah.
Let
me
know
if
you
have
questions
or
comments.
um
I
will
just
go
ahead
and
get
my
comments
out
of
the
way,
which
is,
as
always,
the
most
important
emissions
related
thing.
The
transit
needs
to
do
for
me
is
get
people
out
of
their
cars
and
get
people
around
without
their
single
occupancy
vehicle
trips.
C
So
my
priorities
are
buses
that
can
do
the
job
and
get
people
where
they're
going
quickly
and
efficiently,
and
if
we
need
to
have
two
buses
to
do
the
work
of
one
that
doesn't
accomplish,
that.
That
takes
up
space
that
we
need
for
buses
that
could
be
providing
more
service.
So
that
will
always
continue
to
be
my
priority
here.
C
L
Yeah
I
definitely
agree
with
that.
um
I
think
it's
more.
You
know
it's
important
to
understand.
Art
has
a
its
own
uh
priorities
in
terms
of
what
it
researches
and
I'm
glad
that
they're
looking
at
a
lot
of
different
options,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
an
eye
on
the
uh
on
the
big
picture,
and
that
is
more
better
service.
More
frequent,
Service,
uh
more
reliable
service
will
do
more
to
get
people
out
of
single
occupancy
vehicles.
uh
I
know,
I
can
speak
for
myself
and
for
a
lot
of
my
work.
L
Colleagues
who,
during
the
pandemic,
have
actually
started
uh
driving
the
work
in
the
DC,
whereas
we
took
Transit
before
because
of
uh
some
of
the
lack
of
reliability
uh
in
terms
of
service.
So
I
would
uh
like
to
see
like
uh
six
I
would
be
more
excited
about
a
16-man
bus
that
runs
that
six
minute
uh
headways.
L
Then
um
then,
you
know
a
hydrogen
powered
art
bus,
which
would
be
great
but
I
mean
it's
kind
of
the
I
feel
like
the
lowest
priority
in
terms
of
what
we
should
be
decarbonizing
and
and
also
it's
I
mean
there
was
a
big
focus
on
tailpipe
emissions,
uh
ghe
emissions,
but
there
there's
a
lot
of
other
pollutants
out
there.
uh
I
know
break
residue
uh
microplastics
from
tires
were
were
kind
of
mentioned
in
in
the
in
the
studies.
L
J
J
um
We
really
need
honest
to
God
Transit
of
five.
You
know
six
to
ten
minute
headways
um
and
we
need
buses
to
do
that
and
the
more
buses
we
can
get
regardless
of
how
they're
running
is
how
you
get
people
out
of
their
cars
because
they
know
they
can
walk
and
take
a
bus
and
get
something
right
away.
uh
That
said,
I
do
have
a
technical
question
um
with
the
hydrogen
buses
they
still
have
batteries.
Does
that
mean
that
the
battery
is
constantly
being
recharged
by
the
fuel
cell?
R
Yeah,
that's
actually
exactly
spot
on
um
there's
a
smaller
battery
on
a
hydrogen
fuel
cell
bus
and
the
hydrogen
is
able
to
keep
keep
it
at
an
ideal
state
where
it
doesn't
degrade
the
same
way
that
a
battery
electric
bus
battery
does
um
eventually
it
will
degrade
and
it
may
need
to
be
replaced,
um
but
it'll
be
a
smaller
battery
pack
and
that'll.
Take
a
lot
longer
to
do.
J
So
we
would
need
potentially
fewer
hydrogen
buses
simply
because
they
can
keep
running
way
longer.
Their
their
range
is
limited
by
the
amount
of
hydrogen
that's
stored
in
the
in
its
tank,
rather
than
the
charge
running
out,
and
then
the
time
to
takes
to
regenerate
the
battery
from
a
battery
recharge
bus.
R
J
C
U
Was
just
going
to
say,
I'd
like
to
Echo
everything,
that's
already
sad,
because
I
I
love
writing
the
art
system.
It
just
feels
like
there's
my
notes,
say:
there's
just
so
much
more
opportunity
to
squeeze
out
of
the
system
in
terms
of
improving
frequency,
operational
efficiency
that
I
I
really
hope.
We
are
closely
considering
whether
or
not
the
money
here
is
the
best
way
to
decarbonize.
T
And
just
to
note
that
I
know
the
commission
probably
is
aware
of
this,
but
we
we
are
currently
uh
piloting
three
uh
battery
electric
buses
in
our
APS
Fleet
um
down
at
the
Trade
Center.
Currently,
so
that
is
being
investigated
and
um
you
know
I
think
you
are
correct.
On
the
you
know,
opportunities
to
do
uh
midday,
charging
and
off-peak
charging,
for
them
is
a
lot
different
than
how
we
run
our
art,
Fleet.
T
Q
A
W
uh
Good
evening
my
name's
uh
Paul
munier
I'm
the
uh
art
service
planner.
uh
Thank
you
for
letting
me
come
and
let
us
speak
to
you
about
the
uh
Arlington
strategic
plan
that
we
were
working
on
the
transit
strategic
plan.
uh
Just
a
pretty
face.
This
a
little
bit
um
uh
come
to
give
you
an
update
uh
right
now.
We
are
in
the
process
of
finalizing
a
uh
Gap
to
needs
analysis
and
we
are
moving
into
um
uh
service
recommendations.
W
We
haven't
got
there
quite
yet,
so
this
is
just
a
uh
uh
kind
of
a
status
update
of
where
we
are
what
we've
done
and
where
we're
going
and
in
the
next
couple
of
months
we
will
be
uh
at
that
point
with
service
recommendations
and
um
be
happy
to
come
back
and
talk
to
you
uh
about
that
uh
at
that
time.
But
we
did
want
to
get
uh
in
front
of
you
and
give
you
a
little
update
of
where
we
are
I
will
try
to
go
through
this
quickly.
W
So
we
can
have
some
questions
at
the
end
um
so
uh
next
time,
why
are
we
doing
a
strategic
plan?
uh
Essentially,
this
is
a
going
to
be
a
10-year,
uh
comprehensive
plan
that
outlines
how
uh
Service
uh
will
be
provided
in
the
county.
um
As
I
said
for
the
next
10
years
uh
is
a
living
document.
The
uh
recommendations
in
the
plan
won't
be
set
in
stone.
uh
It
is
reviewed
every
year
to
ensure
that
the
recommendations
that
were
made
are
still
feasible
and
the
correct
way
to
move
forward.
W
W
um
Now
that
we
are
a
large
considered,
a
large
Transit
Agency,
we
are
doing
a
strategic
plan
and,
with
this
uh
serves
a
purpose
at
the
state
level
is
for
DRP
to
take
a
look
at
what
we're
doing
know
what
we're
doing
and
plan
their
budget
for
um
providing
funding
uh
for
service
and
capital
projects
next
slide.
Please
uh
and
here's
just
a
kind
of
a
a
simple
graphic
showing
uh
have
process
is
working.
uh
We
started
with
framework
our
purpose
Mission
goals,
um
looking
at
Equity
um
asking
for
guidance
and
reviewing
uh
existing
conditions.
W
As
well
as
uh
doing
a
gaps
and
needs
analysis,
we
are
now
in
the
planning
uh
phase
of
this.
uh
Looking
at
the
needs
analysis
determining
what
needs
there
are
and
making
recommendations
um
when
we
first
when
we
go
through
the
recommendations,
we
are
not
going
to
be
constrained
with
it,
we're
going
to
look
at
everything
um
and
then
the
the
constraints
come
up
in
the
next
uh
section.
W
Next
slide.
Please.
So
here
is
kind
of
the
public
timeline.
Our
public
engagement
timeline
timeline
for
the
project
um
grant
funding
was
approved
in
2021.
uh
We
began
the
process
in
uh
late
May
of
uh
2022.
uh
We
had
uh
virtual
meetings
and
pop-ups
um
over
the
fall.
uh
We've
been
to
our
transportation
advisory
committee.
uh
We
are
here
to
speak
to
you
today
to
let
you
know
where
we
are
uh
and
the
recommendations
uh
as
I
said
we're
in
the
Gap
analysis,
but
we
will
be
looking
to
have
recommendations
complete
by
March
10th.
W
um
The
reason
that
such
an
exact
exact
date
is
that
it's
the
same
time
that
Metro
is
expected
to
be
complete
and
releasing
their
uh
recommendations
from
the
better
bus,
Network
um
again
uh
hugely
important.
With
the
amount
of
service
the
Metro
uh
provides
in
the
county
that
we
are
complementing
that
service
uh
and
making
the
best
use
of
the
resources
we
have,
while
leveraging
the
uh
great
amount
of
service
that
Metro
uh
provides.
W
um
After
the
recommendations
are
made
public,
we
will
have
another
round
of
virtual
meetings,
uh
pop-ups
meeting
people
where
they
are
uh
seeing
if
we
got
uh
the
recommendations
right
and
then
um
after
that,
we
will
need
to
go
to
the
board
to
get
approval.
The
uh
drpt-
and
there
is
general
assembly-
requires
that
the
um
governing
body
of
the
uh
Transit
Agency
adopt
the
uh
plan.
W
W
W
uh
Part
of
the
public
engagement
was,
we
had
developed
goals
for
the
service,
uh
as
you
can
see
here,
they're
uh
roughly
broken
up
into
three
groups:
um
uh
safety,
quality
and
performance,
equity
and
sustainability
and
communication
and
collaboration,
and,
as
you
can
see,
by
the
results,
uh
the
very
positive
results,
uh
even
though
um
the
safety
quality
and
performance
looks
a
little
lower
on
the
strong
strongly
agree.
That's
still
70
over
70
percent
of
um
agree
or
strongly
agree.
W
You
can
see
that
the
environmental
inequity,
equity
and
environmental
sustainability
uh
very
high,
also
and
communication
and
collaboration
uh
also
um
well
uh
into
the
80
range
excellent
as
part
of
the
uh
public
Outreach.
What
we
wanted
to
do
is
we
wanted
to
ask
about
people's
experience
um
with
the
system
and
the
first
question.
We
asked
what
is
most
important
to
you
when
you
choose
Transit
and
we
gave
people
these
options
to
uh
tell
us
what
was
most
important
to
them.
W
uh
To
pick
three
of
uh
the
options
you
see
here
and
um
you
can
see
in
some
places
where
uh
there's
a
difference,
but
between
what
we
heard
online
and
what
we
heard
in
the
um
in
the
field,
uh
particularly
The
Waiting
areas
that
feel
safe,
well,
lit
and
secure.
uh
There
was
a
a
kind
of
a
difference
there,
which,
uh
which
is
interesting
next
slide,
please.
W
The
second
question
we
asked
is:
what
is
your
biggest
challenge
when
you
use
Transit
and
what's
preventing,
to
get
an
idea
of
what
may
be
preventing
uh
you
from
using
um
uh
Transit?
um
You
know
frequency
uh
number
one
and,
judging
by
the
comments
that
I
I
heard
previously
um
in
regards
to
the
zero
emission
bus
I,
don't
think
it's
any
surprise
that
that
is
uh
the
number
one
um
concern
that
people
have
uh
right
below.
W
uh
Three
things
which
I
think
uh
are
no
surprise
to
this
group
and
some
of
the
ideas
over
to
the
right
side
um
that
uh
we're
at
a
very
high
level,
considering
if
we
I
don't
want
to
go
through
this,
that
I
don't
want
to
take
too
much
time.
So
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide
and
then
again,
uh
better
accuracy
of
um
real-time
data
uh
was
something
that
I
heard
personally
uh
quite
a
bit
and
I
understand
the
way
the
writers
are
experienced,
the
bus.
Now
um
it's
not
so
much.
W
W
um
uh
We're
looking
at
Equity
identified
areas,
Transit
oriented
populations
projected
job
growth
and
predicted.
Population
growth
are
the
things
that
we're
going
to
go
over.
We
have
also
looked
at
um
destination
analysis,
Transit,
centers,
MW,
Cog
activity,
centers
in
addition
to
the
MW
Cog
activity
centers.
W
uh
On
the
next
maps
of
the
Barbarian
analysis.
Essentially,
you
were
taking
two
um
variables
and
you
are
measuring
them
together
to
see
where
the
correlation
is
so,
um
uh
and
this
was
the
only
um
grab
ahead.
But
um
what
you
do
is
you,
as
you
is,
uh
and
replica
rank
um
and
Transit
rank
uh
if
I
could
just
use
it.
W
uh
Let's
say
these:
the
the
instead
of
replica
ranks
say
uh
Transit
trips
and
the
number
of
Transit
trips
in
an
area
and
then
a
variable
such
as
uh
Transit
oriented
population
and
the
number
of
that,
the
the
population
there.
You
would
move
up
on
the
on
the
um
access
uh
for
the
transit
trips
and
then
you
would
move
along
the
x-axis
for
the
transit
rank
trips
and
where
those
two
points
converge
is
where
you
are.
The
line
here
is
kind
of
the
uh
median
and
essentially
above
that
line
is
the
uh
was
potentially
underserved.
W
So
when
we
look
at
these
maps
on
the
coming
up,
we
are
looking
at
the
uh
the
very
bright
red
that
light
pink
and
that
very
dark
purple,
because
that
tells
us
where
there
may
be
an
opportunity
to
provide
additional
transit
to
improve
ridership
and
service
next
slide.
Please
so
looking
at
uh
vehicle
trips
uh
versus
daily
ridership.
So
up
on
the
exit
on
the
y-axis,
you
move
up
vehicle
trips
and
then
you
move
uh
right
on
the
excess
gives.
W
X
is
for
the
number
of
daily
um
uh
bus
trips,
essentially
and
uh
as
I
said
again,
you're
looking
for
that
deep
purple
and
uh
Pink,
um
which
there's
some
uh
on
uh
on
the
west
side
of
uh
Pentagon
City
and
then
uh
just
south
of
Columbia
Pike
next
slide.
Please
and
then
this
is
that
same
analysis,
but
we
used
both
art
and
wamata
uh
to
try
to
identify
those
areas,
and
you
can
see
it
is
slightly
changed.
W
Vehicle
troops
for
Transit
oriented
population-
uh
and
that
is
a
series
of
categories
that
we
use
to
identify
uh
what
is
a
Transit
oriented
population,
and
this
is
a
typical
industry,
a
standard.
These
are
the
type
of
um
categories
that
you
would
use.
I
do
understand,
you
know,
Transit
um
in
Arlington,
uh
doesn't
necessarily
uh
uh
judged
by
that,
but
this
is
uh
where
we
would
typically
find
the
best
um
return
on
investment
for
uh
providing
service.
W
W
And
when
you
overlay
all
those
uh
Maps
together,
um
these
are
some
areas,
these
yellow
circles.
These
are
the
neighborhoods
that
look
like.
We
should
take
a
closer
look
at
uh
to
determine
um
if
we
can
uh
help
fill
those
uh
gaps
in
service.
I
want
to
just
point
out
it's
an
indication.
It's
telling
us
it's
pointing
Us
in
the
Direction
Where
We
need
to
look
and
some
giving
us
an
idea
of
where
we
need
to
look.
That
does
not
mean
these
are
the
only
areas
that
we
are
going
to
look
at.
W
W
um
So
that
would
be
the
next
big
um
uh
uh
date
and
point
in
uh
what
we're
doing
where
we
really
start.
uh
Having
um
our
recommendations
select
uh
fleshed
out,
um
we
we've
been
working
with
internal
and
external
um
technical,
minis
technical
committees
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that
and
we'll
continue
to
come
to
um
committees
and
commissions
uh
as
much
as
they
would
like
us
to
uh
to
to
speak
on
this
um
and
then
uh
once
that
is
released,
we
have
our
public
Outreach
uh
see.
W
C
C
um
Congratulations
on
the
the
bivariant
analysis
slide.
um
I
think.
My
main
question
is
uh
that
I'm,
still
not
100
clear
on
is
how
how
the
wamada
better
bus,
Network
redesign
and
the
art
tsp
um
interact
with
each
other.
um
It's
feeling
a
little
siled.
Can
you
talk
about
how
um
you
know
art,
service
and
Metro,
Bus,
Service,
um
kind
of
interact
and
feed
off
each
other
and
and
how
one
is
one
plan
is
kind
of
affecting
the
other
plan.
At
this
point.
W
Yeah,
that's
an
excellent
question
and
it
does
feel
a
little
solid
because
Ramada
is
doing
their
plan
and
we're
doing
our
plant.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
wamata
provides
about
45
of
the
bus
uh
service
in
Arlington
County,
but
that
is
part
of
a
regional
network
uh
that
is
uh
buses
that
are
um
coming
from
outside
the
county
passing
uh
coming
to
and
through
the
county
uh
to
provide
service.
The
way
uh
these
two
interact
is
for
our
for
our
study.
W
W
We're
Arlington
County
is
a
very
important
regional
transportation
area
geographically,
and
the
the
the
amount
of
Metro
Services
cannot
be
overlooked
and
and
leveraging
that
service
and
having
all
that
service
from
Metro
um
really
is
a
huge
benefit
to
Arlington
County.
So
that
is
kind
of
the
way.
These
two
studies
are
interacting
we're
helping
Metro
build
the
regional
Bus
Network,
and
then
we
are
doing
our
plan
to
leverage
that
regional
Bus
Network
to
provide
the
best
uh
Transit
service
and
the
best
accessibility
for
Arlington
County
residents.
I
C
I
Just
a
comment:
um
even
is
it's
a
little
geeky
um
to
have
all
that
data
there
I'm
I
will
commend
you
guys
for
incorporating
it
in
your
strategic
plan,
because
I
think
um
identifying
the
areas
where
this
the
service
is
really
needed,
is
um
or
where
it's
missing.
I
guess
is
the
right
way
to
say
that
um
is
is
probably
critical
in
terms
of
looking
at
a
long-term
strategy,
so
um
applaud
you
to
pay
attention
to
that
and
continue
to
incorporate
it
in
your
plan.
W
um
They're,
obviously,
there's
been
changes,
um
but
we're
we're
trying
to
do
is
we're
trying
to
look
at
what
is
that
we
we
do
talk
about
um
in
our
current
conditions,
uh
some
of
the
covid
and
how
it's
changing
um
uh
patterns,
but
we
want
to
identify
those
patterns.
We
don't
want
to
really
compare
and
critique.
We
want
to
know
how
people
use
the
system
today
and
how
they
see
themselves
using
the
system
as
they
go
forward,
so
the
Outreach
was
specifically.
What
are
you
doing
today?
Not
uh
what
were
you
doing
before
covet?
W
C
um
My
other
question
is
uh
you
know
what
I'm
trying
to
decide
how
to
get
some
place?
One
of
the
most
important
things
I'm
looking
at
certainly
not
the
only
is,
um
is
how
quickly
I
can
get
there
via
particular
mode
um
and
a
lot
of
the
the
you
know.
The
feedback
and
the
priorities
and
stuff
that
are
discussed
earlier
in
the
deck
um
talk
a
lot
about
frequency,
which
is
one
part
of
that
right.
C
That
means
I'm
not
waiting
as
long
for
for
a
Transit
vehicle,
um
but
it
didn't
see
a
whole
lot
that
speaks
to
the
other
part
of
getting
where
you're
going
quickly,
which
is
how
quickly
the
bus
can
actually
get
from
where
it
picks
you
up
to
where
it
drops.
You
off,
um
you
know
specifically
thinking
about
you
know:
strategies
like
trans
signal,
priority
which
is
covered
under
reliability,
but
not
really,
you
know
speed
um
and
um
you
know
uh
outdoor
boarding
um
and
even
you
know,
stop
consolidation.
C
W
And
and
that's
a
very
good
point
because-
uh
and
we
look
at
it
in
terms
of
Mobility
versus
the
sex
accessibility
and
and
when
you're
talking
about
Mobility,
it's
just
moving
people
as
fast
as
you
can
as
many
people
as
you
can.
When
you're
talking
about
accessibility,
you're
talking
about
moving
people
to
the
places
they
need
to
go
at
a
speed
that
can
be
is
competitive
with
other
modes.
So
that
is
something
we
look
at.
So
those
strategies
are
spoken
to
in
the
document
and
I.
Think
and
I
know.
W
I
went
through
the
broad
ones
very
quickly,
but
there
are
mentions
of
bus
lanes
traffic
signal
priority
um
and
uh
um
uh
forget
that,
uh
oh
and
and
potentially
you
know
looking
at
more
direct
routes
instead
of
forcing
transfers.
uh
Of
course
all
that
comes
with
uh
when
you
start
talking
about
that,
there's
some
trade-offs,
but
that
is
absolutely
um
something
that
we
were
looking
are
looking
at
and
it's
you
know
really
to
make
the
bus
competitive
with
any
other
mode.
C
C
um
I
was
really
disappointed
at
the
end
of
the
day
that
we
didn't
have
um
what
I
think
of
as
really
important
high-level
metrics
to
understand
um
where
the
plan
was
taking
us.
um
So
there
wasn't
a
sense
of
you
know.
Today,
75
of
Arlington
households
live
within
a
five
minute
walk
of
a
frequent
bus,
and
you
know
at
the
end
of
our
plan,
implementation.
You
know,
95
of
arlingtonians
are
going
to
live
within
a
five
minute.
W
uh
Yeah,
that's
that's
something
that
we
are
discussing.
um
The
the
the
service
metrics
that
we're
we
talked
about
in
the
last
TDP
uh
may
not
be
appropriate
for
what
we
are
trying
to
do
today.
You
know
particularly
uh
metrics
that
look
at
um
yeah
Peak,
service
and
stuff,
but
yeah
we're
absolutely
looking
at
even
that
specific
metric
um
where
it
was
previously
arlingtonians
that
are
within
a
quarter
mile
or
walking
distance
of
Transit
versus.
W
You
know
what
you're
mentioning
right
now,
arlingtonians
uh
that
are
within
walking
distance
of
high
frequency,
Transit
and
I
I
agree
with
you,
and
that
is
something
that
we're
looking
at.
What
are
the
more
uh
appropriate
uh
measures
and
if
you
have
any
other
suggestions,
uh
you
know
please
pass
those
along
uh
so
that
we
can
consider
them.
C
All
right,
I
won't
in
this
meeting,
but
I
will
follow
up
with
you
later
uh
anybody
else.
All
right,
I
am
seeing
no
other
hands.
So
I
will
thank
you
very
much
for
the
again
very
in-depth
uh
and
greatly
appreciated
uh
update
on
the
tsp,
and
we
look
forward
to
what
appears
to
me
to
be
uh
quite
intense
and
quick
um
uh
phase
coming
up
here
between
service
recommendations
and
final
adoption.
A
I
I
C
Awesome,
while
we're
talking
about
the
website,
um
I
did
have
uh
somebody
reach
out
to
me
last
week,
um
trying
to
figure
out
uh
what
was
involved
in
uh
testifying
in
front
of
the
commission
um
and
could
not
really
figure
out
uh
what
was
involved
and
I
went
to
the
website
and
I
I
do
think.
We
probably
need
some
updates
there.
C
um
Now
that
we're
mostly
in
person
um
to
make
it
really
clear
um
that
it's
possible
to
comment
virtually
and
how
you
you
know,
get
on
the
list
and
get
a
link
to
the
um
to
the
team's
meeting
um
and
that
it's
possible
to
to
comment
in
person
um
and
what's
involved
in
that,
um
especially
with
potentially
discussing
missing
middle
um
at
our
next
meeting.
I
think
there
may
be
a
couple
people
who
want
to
to.
A
That
going
um
so
so
the
the
zero
emissions
bus
study
was
updated,
but
I
think
um
that
was
a
revisions
who
the
other
planet
I
put
it
in
the
wrong
place.
So
some
some
of
you
may
have
seen
it
prior
to
this
afternoon.
Okay,
so
I'll
correct
that
and
um
the
commenting
in
person.
Thank
you.
I
have
language
for
that
great
to
go
on
the
website.
Awesome.