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A
Evening
and
welcome
to
the
May
9
2023
zoning
committee
meeting
to
be.
A
We
are
waiting
on
our
third
member,
so
we're
only
going
to
do
this
introduction
and
we
have
no
substantive
conversation
but
caring
of
his
other
book
members
of
Zocor
participating,
both
here
and
in
person
virtually
through
electronic
meetings.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
orient
it
ruin
to
our
hybrid
environment
and
cover
a
few
specifics
about
how
tonight's
speeding
will
run
members,
the
public.
A
The
meeting
here
in
person
or
electronically,
by
using
the
Microsoft
teams,
links
provided
on
the
sofa
page
and
the
County's
events
calendar
of
the
email
notification,
centers
local
news,
email,
postcards
phone
option
for
those
who
wish
to
use
it
or
are
planning
Commissioners
doing
virtually
if
anyone
loses
internet
connectivity.
During
today's
meeting,
please
reconnect
with
us
by
Tom.
Please
keep
your
phones
and
devices
needed
until
you're
called
upon
turn
off
sound
to
any
other
devices
around
to
minimize
interference.
A
For
our
virtual
commissioner
attending
Microsoft
teams,
music
and
officer
vision
feed
keep
your
minds
unmuted,
as
you
enter
the
meeting
and
during
the
meeting
the
Microsoft
teams.
Meeting
chat
will
only
be
used
to
provide
instructions
for
virtual
attendees
and
how
to
register
on
how
to
register
for
public
comment
and
deal
general
questions
about
Microsoft
teams.
Teams
you
had
will
not
otherwise
be
monitored
by
staff
or
the
planning
information
during
the
meeting.
Nor
will
it
be
used
to
collect
feedback,
unlike
the
Planning
Commission
to
regular
meetings.
Soco
agenda
items
are
not
public
hearings.
A
Therefore,
public
comments
that
the
Zopa
chairs
discretion
effort
dating
discussion,
as
included
public
comments,
can
be
provided
by
people
attending
in
person
and
virtually
or
in-person
attendees.
Who
wish
to
provide
public
comment
this
evening,
you
may
indicate
on
the
meeting
assignment
sheet
that
you
will
would
like
to
provide
public
content
for
virtual
attending
situations,
provide
public
common
physique.
We
indicate
that
to
each
chat
that
you
would
like
to
provide
a
public
comments
and
your
name
will
be
added
to
the
list
of
speakers
and
we
will
have
public
comment
if
anyone
wants
to
sign
up.
A
A
I
will
call
for
speakers
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
I
will
ask
Mr
Rogers
to
let
me
know
if
we
had
virtual
attendance
would
like
by
the
project
quote
knowledge
speakers
in
the
team
chat.
Please
indicate
in
the
chat
that
you'd
like
to
provide
a
comment
and
your
name
will
be
added
sort
of
assistant
members
of
the
public
attend
University,
listing
first
followed
by
in-person
attendee,
when
virtual
attendees
are
called
upon
to
speak.
You
must
mute
yourself
by
clicking
on
a
microphone
icon
that
is
located
on
your
meeting.
A
Command
bar
moderator
does
not
have
the
ability
to
meet
you.
Lastly,
this
is
public
forum.
Today's
meeting
will
be
recorded
posting
accounting
website,
all
information.
It's
meeting,
whether
written
or
spoken
creative
information
that
requirements
all
right.
Look
at
that
we
can
jump
into
an
earth
agenda.
First,
let's
go
around
and
introduce
ourselves,
sorry
really:
small
group,
oh
here's
Chris,
so
I'm
Leo,
sarley
I'm,
with
the
Planning
Commission
and
I'm
chair
of
the
zoko.
My.
D
Name
is
Nick
Rogers
I'm,
a
principal
planner
and
cphd's
planning,
Division
I
deal
mostly
with
the
zoning
tax
amendments.
Sometimes
that's
a
direct
project
manager,
sometimes
in
more
of
an
advisory
capacity
to
other
staff,
I've
been
with
the
county
for
about
five
years
and
I'm,
also
the
official
liaison
to
the
planning
commissions,
zoning
committee,
okay,.
E
B
E
That
I'm
Val
weiner
I
am
a
commercial
development
specialist
with
Ireland
economic
development
office
in
the
real
estate,
Development
Group
I
joined
the
county
in
October,
so
I'm
relatively
new
and
I'm
here
as
part
of
the
commercial
Market
resiliency.
G
Are
we
giving
a
little
more
elaborate
introduction
tonight,
yeah,
okay?
Well,
my
name's
Chris
Kreider
I'm,
the
Urban
Design
protection
supervisor,
playing
division,
all
right
and
we're
leading
the
food
study
which
we'll
learn
more
about
tonight.
G
The
Urban
Design
section
provides
support
for
site
plan
review.
We
also
provide
support
for
long-range
planning
efforts
such
as
the
food
study
and
I've,
been
with
the
county
for
nine
years.
Thank
you.
I'm
Brett
Wallace
I'm
planning,
division,
Urban,
Design
I
worked
with
Chris
leading
the
food
study
that
will
be
providing
an
update
on
tonight
and
then
the
county
for
11
years.
I
Hi
Jim
lantel
me
Planning,
Commission
and
I'm
here
virtually
anyone.
B
A
D
Right,
it
looks
like
we
have
one
member
Republic
of
Mr
Davidson
who's
also
joined
us.
Virtually
thanks.
Mr
Davidson.
C
Hey
everyone,
I'm
Mr
Darlington
president
joining
virtually
partly
out
of
curiosity
and
partly
because
I'm
in
Arlington
neighborhood
college,
and
they
told
us
we
had
to
attend
a
commission
meeting
to
learn
about
what
happens
in
the
county.
A
Sorry
on
our
first
agenda
item,
which
is
the
food
delivery
service,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to.
D
Well
Mr
chair
is
Val
is,
is
bringing
up
her
presentation
for
that
item.
I
wanted
to
give
just
a
brief
FYI
to
the
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
at
your
public
hearing
earlier
this
month,
I
know:
Mr
Cliff
Hogan
presented
a
series
of
text
Amendments
of
Maintenance,
of
keep
correcting
some
errors
and
and
various
technical
deficiencies.
He
has
some
and
he
would
have
mentioned
that
it's
a
phase
of
several
iterations
of
Maintenance
packages
that
he'll
be
bringing
to
you
this
year.
D
And,
and
with
the
code
of
Virginia
standards
related
to
telecommunications
facilities,
there's
been
a
lot
of
activity
in
the
spec
at
that
space.
D
Over
the
past
five
or
six
years,
we've
been
administering
our
zoning
standards
in
compliance
with
the
with
the
code
of
Virginia,
but
our
local
vote
doesn't
necessarily
reflect
them,
so
he
he
is
going
to
be
bringing
that
I
believe
and
that
there
is
a
forgive
me
for
not
having
the
exact
month
on
at
the
tip
of
my
tongue,
but
that
is
something
that
I
believe
is
coming
your
way
this
summer
and.
C
D
Because
of
the
nature
of
that,
after
some
some
coordination
internally,
our
our
preference
and
what
we're
moving
forward
with
is
providing
an
advanced
memo
very
similar
to
a
zoko
memo
that
will
circulate
through
the
clerk
to
the
Planning
Commission
well
in
advance
of
your
public
hearing.
So
that
you're
not
so
it's
kind
of
a
hybrid
rather
than
than
spending
time
on
again,
what
is
mostly
a
maintenance
exercise
here
at
zoko.
D
We
give
you
that
that
advanced
memo
that
the
richness-
that's
in
your
typical
zoco
memo,
so
you're
hearing
it
ahead
of
time,
as
opposed
to
just
a
week
out
from
your
public
hearing,
so
I
anticipate
that
memo
will
be
ready
in
sometime
mid.
H
D
The
next
couple
weeks
or
so
and
so
so
plan
to
see
that
coming
from
Ms,
Johnson,
great
okay,
yep
so
and.
B
A
E
Okay,
so
your
turn
ready,
yes,
okay,
I
had
on
here
to
introduce
myself
but
I'm
Val
for
the
second
time
today,
I'm
here
again
on
behalf
of
the
commercial
Market
resiliency
initiative
group
and
just
to
jump
okay.
So
here's
a
quick
agenda
of
what
we're
going
to
cover
today,
I'm
going
to
go
very
briefly
over
the
context
of
the
commercial
Market
resiliency
initiative.
I
know
you
all
have
received
that
quite
a
few
times,
but
I
wanted
to
give
a
little
bit
of
context
and
then
we'll
jump
right
into
the
uses.
E
So
for
some
context,
this
initiative
was
initiated
in
April
2022
by
the
county
manager.
I
have
on
here
a
list
of
the
approved
uses
that
we've
been
able
to
work
through
the
County
board
approval
process.
Thus
far,
it's
a
pretty
substantial
list,
but
I
wanted
to
emphasize
that
the
real
method
of
this
initiative
is
zoning
and
there
are
limitations
to
that
and
I
will
talk
through
that
later
in
the
presentation.
E
But
it's
important
to
keep
in
mind
that
we're
really
talking
here
about
zoning
and
land
use
when
dealing
with
these
initiatives
wanted
to
quickly
just
show
where
we
are
talking
about
it's
specifically:
commercial,
mixed
use
and
Industrial
districts,
so
the
ones
in
blue
in
this
map
so
to
jump
right
into
food
delivery.
E
This
service
is
incredibly
important
as
a
tool
for
restaurants
and
food
establishments
in
Arlington.
It
was
initially
introduced
in
November
1988
as
a
response
to
the
pizza
delivery
problem,
primarily
car
congestion
traffic.
There
were
youth
standards
that
were
initially
introduced,
but
they
were
rejected
in
favor
of
a
use
permit.
E
What
this
does
the
use
permit
process
gives
County
staff
and
the
County
Board
more
control
over
each
application
and
there's
no
sort
of
standard
set
of
rules
that
apply
to
every
single
application
and
they
wanted
to
consider
it
a
primary
food
establishment
use
as
opposed
to
an
accessory,
and
we
can
talk
more
about
what
that
means
a
little
later
on.
But
since
1988
quite
a
few
things
have
changed.
I
could
not
find
a
picture
of
Arlington
in
1980s,
but
I
found
one
from
2007.
E
This
is
on
Wilson,
Boulevard
and
obviously,
food
delivery
and
restaurants
have
to
keep
up
with
that
demand,
so
that
market
has
grown
exponentially
since
November
of
1988
and
the
code
has
not
been
updated
since
then,
and
taking
a
look
at
the
use
permit
requirements
that
we've
put
in
place
since
1988
they're,
really
more
focused
on
managing
the
service,
as
opposed
to
it
as
a
land
use,
and
it
really
is
not
sufficient
in
regulating
it
for
a
couple
primary
reasons
which
I
will
get
into
so
one
of
the
biggest
reasons
that
the
use
the
youth
permit,
standards
that
we
have
put
in
place
are
not
incredibly
effective
is
because
of
food.
E
Third
party
delivery
services
like
ubereats
and
Postmates
these
services.
Are
they
work
out
of
individuals
Vehicles?
They
are
not
associated
with
an
actual
establishment
or
land
use,
so
zoning
cannot
apply
to
these
users,
so
I.
Think
really.
The
most
important
thing
to
take
away
from
this
recommendation
is
that
zoning
is
not
the
tool
to
regulate
third-party
services
and
they
are
the
services
that
are
really
having
the
biggest
land
use
or
the
biggest
impact
on
congestion
and
traffic.
E
When
you
think
about
double
parking,
for
example,
another
important
driver
of
these
principles
is
that
is
business
resilience.
These
third-party
services
can
take
up
to
30
percent
of
a
restaurant
and
food
establishments
profits
and
as
AED
in
the
county
as
a
whole.
E
We
want
to
make
sure
that
these
businesses
Thrive
and
we
want
to
level
the
playing
field
for
them,
get
rid
of
some
of
the
barriers
that
may
be
in
their
way
to
offering
the
service
in-house
and
then,
lastly,
the
continuity
of
governance,
ordinance
removed
of
some
of
the
Regulatory
and
enforcement
tools
that
were
in
place
for
food
delivery,
but
that's
ending
in
2010
in
August
of
2023.
So
what
we
really
have
is
a
case
study
of
about
two
years
plus
in
the
pandemic.
E
That
shows
what
happens
when
we
don't
regulate
food
delivery,
and
it's
really
helped
us
inform
us
as
staff.
Where
does
zoning
fit
in
that
sort
of
puzzle,
and
this
lands
us
at
our
recommendation,
which
is
we
recommend
that
food
delivery
service
be
a
buy
right,
accessory
use
to
a
food
establishment
and
Commercial
mixed
use
and
Industrial
districts,
which
are
those
blue
sections
on
the
map?
E
So
just
sort
of
repeat
some
of
the
things
I
said
previously.
This
supports
business
resilience.
It
will
sort
of
level
that
playing
field
get
rid
of
that
one
extra
step
that
may
make
it
easier
for
a
business
to
offer
that
service
in-house
and
avoid
losing
that
profit.
It
does
not.
Oh,
this
is
a
point
I
meant
to
make
earlier.
There
are
other
departments
that
regulate
curbside
management
outside
of
zoning,
so
particularly
the
Department
of
Environmental
Services
and
the
police
department.
E
They
work
concurrently
to
manage
the
curbside
and
specifically
des's
performance
parking
pilot
will
help
give
them
sort
of
a
library
of
information
to
help
them
understand.
Where
actually
are
the
short-term
parking
spots,
and
where
can
we
put
better
signage
to
indicate
to
people?
These
are
pick
up
and
drop
off
zones
that
is
separate
from
zoning,
and
that
will
continue
that
pilot
is,
is
carrying
forward
and
they're
doing
some
great
work.
E
Moving
on
to
Shared
commercial
kitchens-
and
we
can
obviously
have
time
for
discussion
at
the
end,
if
you
have
any
questions,
shared
commercial
kitchens
were
introduced
in
November
2021
in
the
ground
story,
uses
for
Columbia,
Peg
form-based
code
districts.
They
were
buy
right
use
without
use
standards.
What
is
on
the
slide?
This
is
the
definition
that
currently
is
in
the
zoning
code.
E
E
So
our
proposal
is
to
expand
that
definition
to
include
basic
shared
commercial
kitchens,
retail
incubator
and
open-air
share
commercial
kitchen
and
I'll
go
one
by
one
through
them.
I
understand
these
icons
oversimplify
what
they
are,
but
I
think
they'll
help
to
sort
of
drive
home
the
point
of
the
differences
between
the
three
okay.
We
like
we
like
icons.
E
Okay,
to
start
with,
the
most
basic
version
of
the
three
basic
shared
commercial
kitchens
are
brick
and
mortar
locations
with
multiple
commercial
pigeons
that
are
then
rented
out
released
to
multiple
tenants,
they're
also
known
as
ghost
or
Shadow
kitchens.
There
are
a
lot
of
benefits
from
this
model,
particularly
supporting
business
resilience
by
offering
low-cost,
flexible
rental
kitchen
spaces.
This
also
includes
services
like
storage
space
for
their
product.
E
Usually
there
will
be
a
single
owner
of
the
building
that
will
offer
technology
services,
so
there's
a
comprehensive
service
that
every
business
in
the
building
can
use
to
manage
their
pickup
and
drop
off
and
the
building
will
also
help
them
or
the
building
owner
will
help
them
with
the
pickup
and
drop
off
dealing
with
the
third
party
Services,
because
that's
a
that's
a
big
part
of
the
business
model
in
terms
of
zoning,
the
the
land
use
impact
is
that
there
is
no
pedestrian
or
Public
Access
inherent
in
this
model.
E
So
what
you're?
Seeing
here
this
is
cloud
kitchens
IV,
City,
Food
Works.
This
is
an
ivy
City,
Washington
DC.
This
sort
of
outdoor
dining
space
they
have
here
is
not
common.
This
is
this
is
not
the
norm
and
really
for
the
majority
of
these
models.
E
They're
just
a
a
box
with
kitchens
in
them,
and
so
what
we
have
recommended
is
that
this
model
be
require
a
use
permit
if
it
has
Public
Access
in
commercial
and
mixed-use
districts
and
then
buy
right
if
it
does
not
have
public
access
and
part
of
this
is,
we
would
like.
We
understand
that
you
know
the
idea
of
commercial
Kitchens
on
second
floor
and
up
is
unlikely,
but
it's
not
impossible
and
we
want
to
leave
that
door
open.
E
There's
no
need
for
public
access
at
that
point.
If
you're
on
an
upper
floor
or
if
you're
on
a
side
street
that
really
does
not
have
a
lot
of
pedestrian
activity,
then
it
really
isn't
necessary
there
either
and
then
part
of
this
recommendation
is
also
to
make
it
buy
right
in
industrial
districts
as
well.
E
E
Okay,
so
we've
been
working
with
zoning
staff
on
that
exact
terminology,
because
they're,
the
ones
that
will
be
administering
it
and
what
we've
landed
with
is
adjacent
to
Street,
right-of-way
and
located
in
floor
space
with
direct
Public
Access,
and
that's
been
a
lot
of
it's
after
a
lot
of
wordsmithing
and
basically
they
want
to
make
sure
this
is
clear
to
them
in
terms
of
you
are
next
to
right-of-way
and
you
have
public
access
from
the
street
because
there
could
be
right-of-way
without
Public
Access,
but
that
isn't
what
we're
trying
to
get
at
here.
E
E
Moving
on
to
retail
incubator
shared
commercial
kitchen,
so
this
model
is
the
basic
shared
commercial
kitchen,
but
more
fun.
They
offer
some
combination
of
services
like
retail,
incubator,
coursework
or
on-site
dining
incubator
courses
can
help
a
business
go
from
idea
to
Market.
A
lot
of
great
examples
come
out
of
this
region.
Actually,
Union
kitchen
is
one
of
the
most
famous
in
the
country,
I
studied
it
in
grad
school
in
New
England.
E
It's
a
very
big
deal
and
Compass
coffee,
which
is
has
multiple
locations
throughout
Arlington,
is
one
of
the
graduates
of
the
incubator
program
coming
out
of
Union
kitchen.
There
are
a
lot
of
benefits
to
this
model,
not
only
for
the
business
in
helping
them
scale
up,
but
also
for
the
public.
There's
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
engage
and
like
Union
Kitchen
in
DC
has
tasting
events
often
so
we
feel
with
in
terms
of
the
land
use
impact
that
lack
of
protection
and
access
is
not
present.
E
E
And
lastly,
I
would
like
to
note
that
I
put
a
boot
on
that
truck
just
so.
E
Everyone
can
see
that
so
an
open
air
shared
commercial
kitchen
looks
like
a
food
truck,
but
is
stationary,
and
that
is
really
the
Crux
of
why
it
is
so
difficult
for
the
county
to
regulate
this
use
because
we
have
a
food
truck
ordinance
and
we
have
the
zoning
code
which
regulates
land
uses,
but
this
is
sort
of
in
this
gray
area
in
between
and
there's
actually
a
group
of
these
of
this
model
behind
the
Whole
Foods
in
Clarendon.
There's
a
there's
a
lot
there.
E
That
has
quite
a
few
of
these
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
internally
among
staff
of
how
to
deal
with
these
from
a
health
regulatory
perspective,
fire
code
building
code
and
there
isn't
a
comprehensive
approach
or
decision
yet
on
how
that's
going
to
look.
But
these
were
permitted
due
to
the
to
the
kogo,
the
continuity
of
governance,
ordinance,
and
that
again
is
ending.
So
we
want
to
be
able
to
give
them
some
guidance
in
August,
so
they're
not
sort
of
left
out
to
figure
it.
It's
not
just
chaos.
E
So
as
sort
of
a
stop
Gap
until
the
county
figures
out
a
more
comprehensive
solution
to
this
model,
we'd
like
to
recommend
that
this
USB
have
require
a
use
permit
in
commercial
mixed-use
districts,
but
then
be
buy
right
and
Industrial.
So
worst
comes
to
worst.
They
can
move
to
Industrial
districts
for
the
for
the
for
for
the
time
period
until
the
county
figures
out
some
sort
of
comprehensive
approach
to
how
it's.
How
they're
going
to
look
in
mixed
using
commercial.
E
So
so,
usually
with
this
model
it
would
be
a
third
party
service
would
go
and
pick
it
up
for
you,
it's
not
often
that
you
can
go
and
order
it
and
they
give
it
to
you
like
in
a
food
truck.
So
normally
you
probably
wouldn't
even
know
that
you've
ordered
from
one
of
these.
When
you
order
from
ubereats
you
wouldn't
you
would
just
see
like
I'm,
forgetting
the
name
of
them
all
now,
but
they
there's
like
a
a
bow
restaurant.
E
Great
question
you
can
have
as
many
as
the
owner
will
permit
and
that's
part
of
the
gray
area
of
this
use.
These
are
relatively
new
sort
of
models
that
really
skyrocketed
in
popularity
after
the
pandemic
during
during
and
after
the
pandemic,
and
they
normally
have
like
three
commercial
kitchens
Max
in
them,
usually
less
but
they'll
they
use
an
apartment.
No,
they
can
have
multiple
kitchens
in
that
truck
eat
like
physical
kitchens
in
the
truck
and
the
person
who
owns
that
truck.
So
this
is
a
reef.
E
Neighborhood
kitchens
is
the
one
they
own,
the
all
of
the
trucks
in
that
lot.
In
Clarendon
they
can.
They
will
fill
that
truck
as
often
as
they
can,
so
you
could
have
people
working
there,
2
A.M.
You
know
people
want
burritos
too,
so
if
they,
if
they
know
that,
there's
a
demand
for
that
food
at
a
certain
time,
they
will
allow
a
user
to
go
into
that
space.
E
So
my
my
understanding
is
that
they
are
full
as
much
as
the
owner
will
permit
and
that's
where
we
get
into
the
issues
with
the
health
and
the
fire
and
the
right,
and
that's
that's
why
there
really
isn't
a
comprehensive
approach
yet
to
dealing
with
these.
That's
why
we
want
to
do
use
permit
in
all
commercial
mixed
use,
districts,
industrial,
there's
really
not
as
much
of
in
terms
of
land
use,
there's
not
as
much
of
a
risk.
There.
E
So
this
is
the
overview
of
what
we're
looking
at
for
shared
commercial
kitchens.
We
can
pop
back
to
this
at
the
end.
This
is
just
to
give
a
a
brief
summary
all
right
so
on
to
some
of
the
food
term.
Standardization.
So
there's
always
been
a
food
catering
term
in
the
zoning
code,
but
it
was
separated
into
large
and
small-scale
Catering
in
2015.,
but
not
given
an
actual
definition
or
delineation.
E
So
there's
no
number
that
decides
you
are
either
a
small
or
large-scale
caterer,
so
there's
still
a
definition
for
food
catering
service,
but
there's
no
definitions
for
small
or
large.
E
Yet
the
impact
of
this
is
that
it
can
determine
where
your
business
can
go
so
either
in
a
commercial
or
an
industrial
district,
and
that
can
make
a
pretty
big
difference
in
terms
of
reaching
your
target
Market
an
audience
So
based
on
the
caterers
in
Arlington
and
a
neighboring
jurisdictions.
We
found
that
8
000
square
feet
is
a
large
enough
threshold,
where
a
small
scale
caterer
can
grow
into
a
space
and
small
enough
that
it
would
not
impact
large-scale
Caterers
at
all,
because
they
really
do
two
different
sets
of
services.
E
Large-Scale
caters,
we're
on
weddings
and
large
events,
and
they
need
warehouse
space
as
in
the
the
photo
at
the
bottom
and
then
small-scale
Caterers
are
usually
some
combination
of
retail
grocer
Cafe.
They
really.
If
you're
larger
than
8
000
square
feet
you,
it
makes
sense
that
you
would
be
considered
a
large-scale
caterer
you're.
Looking
for
that
larger
Warehouse
type
space.
E
And
then
restaurant
limited
and
restaurant
General
again
sort
of
a
similar,
some
standardization
that
we're
looking
to
do
in
the
code.
The
difference
between
these
two
uses
is
established
through
use
standards,
but
not
any
def.
There's
no
definitions
of
these
two
uses
so
and
these
use
standards
are
based
on
a
percentage
of
food
delivery
sales.
E
Not
contradictory,
but
unnecessary,
they're
also
very
similar
in
the
use
tables
already.
There
is
only
one
District
where
they
differ:
the
one
circled
in
red
so
in
terms
of
condensing
them
down
to
a
single
restaurant
use.
There's
really
no
policy
impact,
we're
really
just
sort
of
simplifying
and
modernizing
the
code
and
making
it
easier
to
for
staff
to
administer
and
for
applicants
to
get
their
projects
moved
quicker
through
the
process.
E
Yeah
exactly
yeah,
and
it
really
isn't
in
line
with
how
we're
thinking
about
food
delivery
now
anyway,
especially
if
we
approve
it
as
a
Buy
rate
accessory
use
and
then
I
believe
this
is.
Lastly,
the
definitions
for
restaurant
drive-through
and
restaurant
fast
food
kind
of
create
this
closed
loop.
They
reference
one
another
and
then
they
are
no
longer
they're,
not
referenced
anywhere
else,
the
actual
terms,
restaurant
drive-through
and
restaurant
fast
food.
E
However,
their
land
use
impacts
are
accounted
for,
which
is
the
important
thing
it's
owning,
so
the
drive-throughs
are
in
accessory
use
in
both
commercial
and
Industrial
districts,
and
they
already
require
a
use.
Permit
we're
not
looking
to
change
that
right
now.
We
can
that's
a
different
study
and
then
fast
food
isn't
already
an
example
of
a
food
establishment.
So
there
really
isn't
a
need
for
these
two
definitions.
E
They
just
sort
of
add
a
unnecessary
verbiage
to
the
document.
So
the
recommendation
here
is
to
remove
both
terms
for
consistency.
E
That
is
a
very
good
question.
The
charge
of
this
initiative
is
just
focusing
on
Commercial,
mixed-use
and
Industrial
districts.
That's
not
to
say
we
can't
do
that
in
the
future,
but
right
now
that
is
sort
of
the
focus
of
the
initiative
as
a
whole
is
justice.
So.
E
A
D
Further
something
that
we
can
do
Mark
has
some
offer.
Oh
sorry,
Mark
no.
K
I
think
I
was
just
gonna,
I.
Think
Lee.
You
said
it
perfectly.
I
think
these
districts
that
we
call
Commercial
mixed
use
are
often
are
are
the
significant
portion
of
where
a
restaurant,
for
instance,
could
locate
other
zoning
districts
would
not
allow
restaurants
in
their
District.
So
this
is
really
capturing.
The
vast
majority
of
of
the
various
vast
majority
of
restaurants.
F
Okay,
so
one
of
the
concerns
that
we've
talked
about
with
the
commercial
kitchens
is
noise
that
might
be
associated
with
truck
deliveries.
If
there's
somebody
cooking,
you
know
Bakery
items
at
four
in
the
morning,
so
they
can
have
them
delivered
to
the
hotels
by
6
a.m.
F
E
These
areas
sure
so
I
think
in
terms
of
how
this
use
compares
to
others
in
Arlington.
It's
really
not
much
different
in
terms
of
when
deliveries
happen.
How
much
delivery
I
have
a
Target
in
my
building,
probably
about
the
same
as
that.
It's
really
not
loud
at
all.
I've
never
been
waking
up,
but
so
I
don't
think
it
would
be
any
difference
than
what's
already
happening
in
our.
D
The
best
of
my
knowledge,
commission,
Peterson
I,
don't
think
we
I
don't
we
and
we
can
check
in
this
to
just
triple,
confirm
and
don't
believe.
We've
had
additional
shared
commercial
kitchens
established
along
Columbia
Pike.
Since
that
zoning
change
we
have
was
La
Cocina,
it's
now
kitchen
of
purpose,
I
believe
they're
still
in
operation,
but
it
that
changed
it
not
broadness
to
create
a
plethora
of
of,
unfortunately,
to
80s
Chagrin.
It
didn't
fill
up
a
bunch
of
commercial
vacancy
space,
additional
shirts.
E
F
Delivery
or
the
shared
you
both
I
was
talking
about
delivery
trucks,
yeah.
E
I
mean
I,
think
I.
Think
a
lot
of
this
is
already
happening
in
other
ways.
Shared
commercial
kitchens
are
very
similar
to
a
red
like
a
restaurant,
or
we
have
some
food
halls
in
Arlington
that
have
a
similar
type
of
impact.
So
it's
it
in
terms
of
those
types
of
impacts.
There
really
would
be
no,
no
major
difference.
I
Yes,
I
have
a
question
about
one
of
the
I
think
was
the
ghost
kitchen,
or
one
of
them
requires
a
special
use
permit
if
the
public
is
allowed
in,
but
by
right.
If
nobody
is
alive,
if
it's
yeah,
that's
the
one,
the
shared
commercial
kitchens,
wouldn't
it
I
would
have
thought
it
would
be
the
other
way
around,
because
by
not
allowing
people
in
it
could
be
seen
as
deadening
the
streetscape
because
it
doesn't
create.
I
You
know,
pedestrian
traffic,
which
you
might
want
to
look
at
for
those
specific
location,
whereas
if
you're
letting
people
in
it's
great
for
the
neighborhood,
because
it's
another
destination
so
go
through
the
reasoning
on
that
I
wasn't
quite
tracking.
It.
E
Is
the
terminology
here
it
in
these
sentences
is
the
actual
establishment
that
they
use
is
trying
to
get
into
so
rather
than
saying
if
the
business
has
Public
Access,
if
the
site
has
Public
Access,
so
it's
saying
exactly
what
you
are
describing.
E
We
want
to
avoid
deadening
the
streetscape
and
therefore
we
want
a
use
permit
if
the
site
has
Public
Access,
because
this
use
inherently
does
not.
So
we
want
that
to
go
through
so
I'm
with
you
and
I.
Think
that's
a
great
point
and
I
will
work
on
this
language
to
make
that.
I
Okay,
yeah,
because
that
was
really
confusing
to
me,
because
it
seemed
as
though
this
was
a
commercial
kitchen
that
if
it
happened
to
let
people
in
but
if
you're
saying
the
overall
site
is
in
a
site
plan,
for
example
that
allows
Public
Access.
Then
this
would
have
to
go
by
a
you'd
have
to
get
a
a
a
used
permit
because
it
wouldn't
be
allowing
people
in,
even
though
the
site
overall
does
that's
what
you're
trying
to
get
at.
I
I
One
thing
that
I
do
want
to
raise
is
that,
overall,
this
is
a
great
initiative
and
I
I
very,
very
much
support
what
we're
doing
here
and
I
think
as
actually
commissioner
Hughes
isn't
here
tonight,
but
he
did
raise
something
that
I
thought
really
resonated
with
me.
Is
that.
I
When
we're
looking
at
zoning,
for
you
doing
that-
and
his
approach
is
more,
why
don't
we
then
simply
regulate
the
externalities?
That
any
use
can
do,
because
there's
virtually
any
use
possible
that
you
could
think
of
for
a
site
would
generate?
Some
could
generate
some
sort
of
externality
that
people
would
be
upset
about
some
more
than
others,
but
almost
all
of
them
do,
and
rather
than
trying
to
parse
out
which
one's
better
and
which
one
isn't
instead
regulate
the
externality
and
deal
with
it.
I
That
way,
rather
than
via
the
zoning
ordinance
anyway,
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
there
as
a
sort
of
a
philosophical
way
of
looking
at
this
stuff
and
I
thought
it.
It
was
something
that
to
me
made
sense:
maybe
it
doesn't
work
for
every
single
type
of
site
or
use,
but
you
know,
like
you
know,
if
we're
going
to
have
a
an
oil
refinery,
but
for
most
of
the
uses
that
we
have
in
the
county,
that
strikes
me
as
being
could
be
a
rational
approach.
Anyway,
that's
just
an
editorial
comment.
Thank
you.
K
To
ask
yeah
no
I
I,
don't
need
to
say
much
more
I.
Think
I.
Think,
commissioner,
tell
me
summed
it
out:
well,
there
are
different
ways
to
approach
zoning
ordinance,
we've
discussed
them
all
over
the
past
year
and
a
half
there
are
basic.
We
always
say
that
it's
as
hard
for
those
don't
even
administrator
to
decide,
what's
not
allowed
versus
what
is
allowed,
so
there's
not
as
much
efficiencies
as
often
but
I
think.
K
The
real
answer
is
is
that
we
really
wanted
to
get
going
on
some
of
these
uses
to
make
it
more
flexible,
rewriting
the
zoning
ordinance
in
a
in
that
fashion
is
a
longer
term
process
and
doesn't
mean
it's
not
a
good
one.
It
just
means
that
that
might
be
a
future
discussion,
but
I
think
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
were
not
taking
years
to
solve
a
problem
versus
taking
months
to
solve
individual
problems
and
I.
Think.
But
it's
a
point
well
made
it's
been
made
before
and
we
appreciate
the
comment.
A
F
A
A
quick
question
just
on
this
picture,
while
it's
up,
you
mentioned
that
the
kitchen
didn't
have
exterior
seating.
Our
next
presentation
is
on
exterioration.
E
And
I
I,
so
that's
that's
where
some
of
these
nuances
come
in.
So
if
you
it's
sort
of
an
if
then
a
logic
line,
if
you
are
not
a
basic
shared
commercial
kitchen,
then
you
are
a
retail
incubator,
shared
commercial
kitchen.
These
have
on-site
dining
these
they're
much
more
flexible
in
terms
of
their
use,
so
it's
really
an
either
or
so
we're
not
saying
you
can't
have
dining
and.
D
Just
I
think
again
yeah
you
know,
and
also
what
you're
identifying
sorry
is
that
there's
multiple
Pathways
to
outdoor
dining,
okay,
so
I
won't
steal,
Brett's
Thunder,
but
a
an
outdoor
Cafe
is
an
accessory
use
to
a
restaurant
and
only
a
restaurant
and
and
Brett
jump
down
my
throat.
If
I
get
this
if
I
get
this
wrong.
So
so
a
restaurant
has
the
impossibility
to
establish
an
outdoor
Cafe,
a
retail
incubator,
shared
commission
sharing.
D
F
E
So
the
the
blue
areas
on
the
map
are
a
combination
of
both
commercial
and
Industrial,
so
I
I
didn't
separate
them
out.
So
the
way
that
this
works
right
now
is,
if
you
are
small
scale,
you
can
only
be
in
commercial
if
you're
a
large
scale,
you
could
only
be
an
industrial,
so
it
sort
of
splits
out
that
blue
map
okay,
so
they
can
still
be
in
part
of
the
blue,
okay,
but
really
in
reality
the
Market's
already
deciding
this.
E
F
Do
we
have
a
lot
of
spaces
that
would
be
8
000
square
feet
that
would
be
set
up
for
this
and
I'm
just
wondering
I,
remember
hearing
that
once
a
landlord
turns
their
space
into
a
kitchen,
a
restaurant
it
is,
it
is
very
expensive
to
make
that
investment,
so
you
never
go
back
once
you
put
that
stuff
there.
It's
there
so
I,
just
I,
guess
I'm
kind
of
wondering
spaces
like
this
exist
already.
Is
this
going
to
require
a
large
investment
and
a
risk
for
a
landlord
to
take?
E
It's
a
great
question,
I
think,
as
with
all
of
these
uses
that
we're
presenting
in
this
entire
initiative,
we
don't
know
this
is
not.
This
is
just
zoning.
This
is
not
an
incentive
for
a
landlord
or
anyone
to
actually
change
or
do
some
sort
of
tenant
fit
out
for
their
space.
E
So
the
answer
is
I.
I
am
not
sure.
8
000
square
feet
is
large,
but
the
point
of
that
is
to
allow
for
growth.
A
lot
of
the
like
I
use.
The
the
Italian
store
is
about
7
000
square
feet.
E
So
that's
that's
a
pretty
good
size,
space
I
believe
so
yeah
so
and
then
we're
dealing
with
like
the
small
scale,
Caterers
sangum
catering,
their
catering
portion
of
their
restaurant
is
200
square
feet.
So
it
really
ranges
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
size
of
business
needs
or
square
footage
of
business
needs,
but
we
want
to
give
them
that
opportunity
for
growth
if
it's
there,
so
really.
What
we're
doing
is
we're
we're
trying
to
open
the
door
and
see
what
happens.
E
Formal
answer.
I,
don't
know.
E
E
D
A
Yeah
great
all
right,
I,
think
that
takes
care
of
this
item.
I
Oh
commission,
Montana
yeah
I
had
one
more
thing,
I'd
like
to
look
at
our
address
and
I,
and
you
did
touch
on
it,
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
I
understood
what
you're
saying
and
sort
of
give
again
an
editorial
comment.
I
This
is
on
parking,
if
the
less
that
the
the
less
that
we
direct,
specific
parking
ratios
or
amount
of
parking
or
that
sort
of
thing,
the
better
I,
pretty
much
feel
that
anybody
who's
going
to
be
renting
a
space
for
whatever
any
of
these
uses
is
going
to
have
to
figure
that
what
their
needs
are
themselves
and
decide
whether
it's
going
to
work
or
not.
For
us
to
say
you
need
to
have
X
number
of
parking.
I
Spaces
is
sort
of
pointless
because
either
they're
going
to
need
more
than
that
they
won't
rent,
regardless
of
saying
it
or
they're
going
to
need
less
and
then
otherwise
they're
and
we
could
end
up
preventing
somebody
from
renting
a
spot
because
it
doesn't
have
an
even
though
we
don't
think
it
has
enough
parking,
even
though
they
don't
need
the
parking.
So
I
would
not
want
to
have
us
be
dictating
that.
I
That's
the
type
of
externality,
that's
better
dealt
with
on
our
curb
management
and
our
other
and
dealing
with
it
in
that
way,
a
larger
holistic
look
at
parking
in
the
entire
area
where,
in
that
specific
use,
so
anyway,
that
that's
that's
my
comment
on
that
and,
like
I,
said
I
think
you
did
address
it
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
how
you're
addressing
parking.
Thank
you.
E
Yeah,
so
I
could
do
a
quick
run
through
of
that.
So
for
food
delivery,
we
are
not
imposing
any
parking
requirements
for
food
delivery.
We
did
look
at
what
that
would
look
like
and
then
in
having
conversations
with
staff,
including
Tes.
We
all
agreed
with
what
you're
saying
that
curbside
management
should
really
be
done
on
a
holistic
level,
looking
at
the
entire
commercial
Corridor
rather
than
business
by
business,
and
then
the
other,
the
shared
commercial
kitchens
will
for
now
be
parked,
as
in
the
table,
it's
regarded
as
retail
use.
E
Other
I
think
it's
one
space
for
250
square
feet,
so
we're
not
imposing
we
played
around
with
what
it
would
look
like
to
change
that
and
really
what
we
decided
is
that
the
parking
table
needs
more
attention
and
study
than
we
have
the
capacity
or
time
to
do
for
this
round.
So
that
is
a
great
opportunity
for
future
study,
but
for
now
we're
working
with
what
we've
got
and
then
we
can
dig
into
the
details
of
the
table
later.
I
Okay,
great
because
I
really
would
like
us
to
look
at
that,
because
looking
back,
apparently
the
the
basis
for
parking
per
square
foot
comes
out
of
thin
air.
You
know,
there's
there's
no
real
scientific
or
data
that
ends
up
out
of
supporting
that.
It
goes
back
to
the
mist
of
time
as
to
and
tradition
as
to
what
there's
these
numbers
come
from
and
there's
been
books
written
on
these
things.
I
So
I
very
much
would
like
the
county
to
be
looking
at
that
I
think
we're
grossly
over
parked
all
over
the
county
in
the
commercial
zones,
and
it's
something
we
really
need
to
look
at.
It
can
be
an
impediment
to
our
economic
growth
by
having
unnecessary
parking
requirements
or
inflexible
parking
requirements.
So
again,
another
editorial
comment
there
and
I
definitely
encourage
you
to
be
looking
at
the
parking
thanks.
A
A
G
Just
a
quick
overview
of
the
presentation
I'll
be
giving
tonight
just
going
over
the
study,
purpose
and
goals
I'll
be
going
over.
The
study,
schedule
and
timeline
I'll
be
explaining
the
existing
regulations
and
guidelines
that
we
have
in
place
for
outdoor
dining,
we'll
touch
on
some
background
on
the
temporary
outdoor
seating
areas
or
ptosis.
So
I'm
going
to
use
the.
B
G
Acronym
frequently
throughout
my
presentation:
that's
what
that
refers
to
I'll
provide
an
overview
of
some
Community
engagement
that
would
occurred,
last
fall
and
then
I'll
be.
G
Some
preliminary
recommendations
in
the
next
steps,
so
looking
at
the
Timeline
really
moving
from
left
to
right,
where
we
launched
the
study
last
fall,
and
that
was
when
the
county
manager
removed
the
emergency
order.
G
We've
moved
into
phase
one
of
the
study
last
fall
and
into
the
winter
was
really
information.
Gathering
reviewing
the
ptosis
existing
policies.
We
were
looking
at
other
neighboring
jurisdictions,
other
cities,
seeing
what's
working.
What's
not
during
the
pandemic,
we
had
some
Community
engagement.
Last
fall.
G
We
had
an
online
performance
where
we
received
approximately
2
000
responses,
so
that
was
really
good
and
then
we
hosted
two
virtual
Round
Table
events,
but
really
right
now
between
phase
two
and
phase
three
we're
still.
We
did
synthesize
some
of
the
findings
from
phase
one
to
develop.
Some
of
the
recommendation
share
this
evening
and
Val
mentioned
the
County
Board
extension
of
the
kogo
that
was
done
January,
so
the
Coco
will
expire
in
August
of
this
year.
G
We
are
looking
for
some
additional
Community
engagement
opportunities
once
we
release
the
recommendations
and
then
moving
into
phase
three
later
this
month
and
through
the
summer,
we're
really
looking
to
bring
these
zoning
ordinance
text
amendments
and
updates
to
Outdoor
Cafe
guidelines
to
commissions,
so
we're
touching
base
with
the
zoning
committee
for
the
first
time
tonight
and
we'll
be
coming
back.
The.
B
G
Committee
in
June
with
specific
text
amendments
and
we
are
looking
to
go
to
the
County,
Board
and
Planning
Commission
in
in
June,
for
a
request
to
advertise
and
then
we're
looking
for
County
Board
action
in
July.
So
we
can
have
some
of
the
new
regulations
in
place
for
window.
The
Coco
expires
in
August.
G
So
what
was
the
purpose
of
the
study?
The
study
was
really
developed
at
the
height
of
the
pandemic,
and
you
know
the
study
examined
really.
What
are
the
aspects
of
the
tosa
program
that
should
be
incorporated
into
the
permanent
Outdoor
Cafe
guidelines,
whether
they
be
buy
right
or
special
exception
or
use
permit.
G
Some
other
recommendations
also
we're
looking
to
inform
change
current
regulations
for
managing
outdoor
cafes,
including
those
within
the
public
space
and
rights
of
way
and
again,
just
taking
lessons
learned
over
the
past
three
years
over
the
pandemic
from
the
ptosis
in
the
outdoor
dining
to
improve
the
Outdoor
Cafe
framework.
G
G
We're
really
looking
as
expanding
outdoor
dining
is
to
address
restaurant
recovery
and
resiliency
as
well,
and
then
we
understand
that
not
every
space
is
the
same.
There's
different
spaces,
different
places
in
different
spaces,
so
having
some
flexibility
to
accommodate
different
outdoor
cafes,
different
setups,
the
gold,
so
just
quickly
go
over
the
existing
policies
and
guidelines
for
outdoor
cafes.
G
So
the
current
approval
process-
and
this
is
also
a
free
pandemic-
that
you
can
have
outdoor
cafes
on
private
property
that
can
be
approved
administratively
in
compliance
with
the
zoning
ordinance
or
you
can
have
an
outdoor
Cafe
in
the
public,
right-of-way
like
on
sidewalks,
for
example,
or
in
public
spaces
like
plazas,
and
that
is
done
by
site
plan
or
use
permit
approval.
That's
approved
and
we've
developed
these
Outdoor
Cafe
guidelines
that
you
see
here
back
2013,
so
we're
looking
to
update
these
guidelines.
So
this
really
serves
as
an
all-in-one
document
for
applicants
going
forward.
G
Just
listening
to
some
of
the
other
policies
and
regulations.
I
mentioned
the
guidelines,
which
is
an
administrative
document.
We
have
the
zoning
ordinance
section,
14,
The,
Plaza
parking
and
12.,
plus
outdoor
cafes
and
accessory
use.
We
have
the
retail
plan
that
was
adopted
in
2015.,
the
master,
Transportation
plan,
pedestrian
element
and
the
public
spaces
master
plan.
All
these
encourage
the
use
of
public
space
for
outdoor
cafes,
of
course,
there's
other
regulations
such
as
the
Statewide
building
code,
the
fire
prevention
code,
the
ABC
control
for
alcoholic
beverages.
B
G
Cafes
and
the
public
right-of-way
in
terms
of
the
zoning
regulations
overview,
which
is
important
to
this
committee
I,
did
provide
the
definition
of
what
an
outdoor
Cafe
is
I.
Do
want
to
note
that
it
does
exclude
rooftop
areas,
but
it's
pretty
straightforward
definition.
I
think
we're
all
pretty
good
that
Outdoor
Cafe
is
we
mentioned
earlier
that
outdoor
cafes
are
accessory
used
to
the
main
use
of
a
property
as
a
restaurant
and
in
the
section
12
9
15.
B
G
Furniture
and
fixtures
must
be
removable,
nothing
permanently
affixed
to
the
ground
cannot
be
enclosed,
or
else
it
would
count
towards
gross
floor
area
of
the
building.
There's
a
restrictions
on
Sound,
audio
and
visual
entertainment,
and
it
should
have
fewer
seats
in
the
indoor
portion
of
the
restaurant
I-
do
know
that,
with
the
last
two
bullets
that
those
restrictions
on
sound
and
the
the
capacity
and
the
amount
of
seeds
can
currently
be
modified
by
the
County
Board
by
use
and
then
for
the
public
right-of-way
at
easement
areas
for
public
use.
G
B
G
Continuing
on
the
zoning
ordinance
specifically
for
private
property,
currently
outdoor
cafes
on
private
property
can
be
approved
by
right
in
compliance
with
the
zoning,
we
do
have
a
number
of
toses
that
you'll
see
in
a
minute
that.
G
B
C
G
and
that's
one
parking
space
for
every
six
seats
inside
the
restaurant.
Restaurants
are
also
Exempted
from
parking
if
they're
located
within
a
thousand
feet
of
a
metro
station
entrance
and
the
County's
working
modified.
The
parking
I
use
permit
only
within
that
1
000
feet
of
Metro
and
that
really
dates
back
to
the
1970s,
the
RV
Corridor
and
the
bullseye
concept
for
the
roughly
a
10
minute
walk
from
the
Metro.
G
So
the
zoning
orders
does
mandate
that
parking
spaces
are
provided
for
cars
So.
Currently,
parking
and
off-stream
private
spaces
can
only
be
for.
B
G
G
B
G
A
lot
of
other
cities
and
neighboring
jurisdictions
do-
and
this
is
really
to
permit
the
the
restaurant
to
the
private
use
of
the
public
base,
and
so
I'll
be
talking
about
that
in
a
minute
when
I
talk
about
recommendations
for
an
outdoor
Cafe
license.
So
this
was
recommended
in
the
retail
plan
mentioned
the
master
Transportation
plan,
pedestrian
element,
of
course,
encouraging
outdoor
cafes
doing
live
in
streetscapes.
G
It
does
note
some
guidance
on
clear
zones
and
clear
paths,
but
it
does
indicate
that
we
may
have
other
clear
zones
on
the
sidewalks
that
are
dictated
by
sector
plans
or
streetscape
standards
or
site
plan
conditions,
so
that
may
require
more
than
a
six
foot
and
then
the
public
spaces
master
plan
also
encourages
public.
Excuse
me,
outdoor
cafes,
but.
G
Of
three
months,
if
you
currently
apply
you
pay
a
fee,
there's
you
have
to
meet
the
filing
and
advertisement
deadlines
for
the
public
hearings.
There's
staff
reports,
engagement,
typically.
G
So
those
are
outdoor
cafes,
so
the
tosa
that
I
mentioned
were
established
in
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic
in
2020
to
help
restaurants
and
businesses
to
have
expanded
outdoor
dining
options,
especially
when
some
restaurants
couldn't
see
people
indoors
that
really
had
to
rely
on
outdoor
seating.
We
developed
as
staffs
and
flexible
design
operational
guidelines
to
enable
these.
We
developed
an
online
submission
process
with
build
application
fee.
G
So
just
some
examples
showing
some
of
the
ptosas
and
outdoor
cafes
I
think
you
can
see
from
some
of
the
examples
we
had.
We
made
some
exceptions
for
some
cases
where
we
put
The
Pedestrian
circulation
in
the
street,
or
the
parking
Lane
like
in
the
image
on
the
top
left
and
allowed
restaurants
to
take
over
the
entire
sidewalk.
There's
also
cases
where
a
lot
of
outdoor
cafes
have
kind
of
creeped
outward
creating
pinch
points
and
sometimes
impassable
areas
on
the
sidewalk
which.
G
Accessibility
in
Ada,
here's
some
other
examples
of
some
outdoor
cafes,
along
with
other
streetscape
elements
like
bike
racks
and
Scoot
e-scooters
signage.
You
can
just
see
some
of
these
pictures.
I
mean
some
of
these
look
almost
narrower
than
three
feet:
wide
I
love
the
picture
with
the
umbrella
right
in
the
middle
Sons
yeah.
G
So
just
quickly
on
the
community
engagement
I
mentioned,
we
started
with
phase
one
I
think
in
general
we
were,
you
know
again
collecting
information
to
happen
about
how
people
felt
about
the
ptosis
I.
Think
in
general,
everybody
was
very
supportive,
so
supporting
the
local
businesses.
G
Everybody
knows
everybody
at
least
I
know
enjoys
outdoor
dining
and
providing
vibrant
streetscapes.
However,
there
was
some
concerns
raised
about
accessibility,
like
you
saw
in
some
of
the
photos
there
about
creating
congestion
on
the
sidewalks.
B
G
Spaces
for
outdoor
dining
as
well,
but
the
bottom
line,
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we're
addressing
as
part
of
this
study
is,
we
want
to
streamline
the
process
and
make
things
easier
for
applicants
at
restaurants
going
forward.
G
This
is
just
a
graphic
kind
of
summarize
something
that
some
of
the
the
common
themes
that
we
heard
throughout
the
engagement
on
parking-
and
you
know,
health
and
safety
and
pedestrian
accessibility.
G
So
now
I'll
cover
the
the
framework
and
some
of
the
key
work
elements
that
are
coming
out
of
these
recommendations.
So
we
really
have
these
three
elements
that
we're
working
on
and
they're
all
hand
in
hand
with
one
another.
The
first
being
is
the
encroachment
ordinance
and
Outdoor
Cafe
license.
So
this
will
be
a
new
new
chapter
of
the
county
code
that
we're
proposing,
and
this
again
was
recommended
in
the
retail
plan
2015.
This
is
going
to
be
an
administrative
process
for
requirements
for
an
outdoor
Cafe
license
and.
G
Is
just
for
in
the
public
Reddit
that
would
also
include
an
application
and
a
fee,
but
also
have
an
annual
review
as
well.
So
that's
one
element
or
one
item
or
one
type
of
permit,
that
applicants
will
need
to
obtain
in
terms
of
the
zoning
ordinance
amendments
we're
looking
at
permitting
outdoor
seating
in
public
spaces
or
the
right-of-way.
So
moving
from
a
use
permit
review
to
administrative
review
with
revocation
for
non-compliance
that
would
be
identified
in
the
Outdoor
Cafe
license.
So
this
is
a
big
change.
G
We're
recommending
and
you'll
be
seeing
some
draft
zoning
texts
before
we
meet
next
time.
We're
also
going
to
be
identifying
in
the
zoning
ordinance
very
clear
design,
standards
related
to
the
placement
of
those
spaces,
like
the
clear
sidewalk,
for
example,
and
then
on
the
private
side,
we're
looking
to
be
give
the
County
Board.
G
Cafe
guidelines
we're
looking
to
update
those
as
well
and
that's
really
again
an
all-in-one
document.
That's
going
to
explain,
walk
somebody
through
the
process.
What
they
need
to
do
is
the
permitting
going
to
include
guidance
on
Career
sidewalks,
pedestrian
safety,
fire
building
code,
there's
a
number
of
things
that
are
in
different
places
throughout
the
county
that
we're
looking
to
consolidate
to
one
so.
G
These
are
all
very
important
parts
of
the
review
anything
in
the
built
environment,
so
we're
not
looking
to
make
changes
there.
So
now,
I'll
just
go
over
briefly
our
preliminary
recommendations,
starting
with
the
public
space.
What
we
commonly
refer
to
as
the
right-of-way
I
mentioned
the
county
code
chapter,
the
new
code
chapter
that's
going
to
be
proposed
again.
This
will
be
require
a
license
for
the
Outdoor
Cafe
in
the
public
right-of-way.
G
It's
an
admin
review
process,
it's
going
to
include
a
fee,
and
this
would
be
in
addition
to
other
standards
in
the
zoning
ordinance,
and
this
item
will
also
come
forward
with
recommendations
from
the
food
study
to
the
county
forward,
the
June
and
July
time
frame.
G
So
again,
this
this
would
be
a
streamlined
administrative
review
process.
G
You
know
just
some
background
on
use
permits.
We
looked
at
this
five-year
window
where
there's
only
an
average
of
five
use
permits
for
outdoor
cafes
that
were
approved
every
year
in
about
six
renewals.
I
mentioned
the
time
frame
in
terms
of
the
filing
the
public
hearing,
and
the
cost
of
just
the
minimum
cost
for
the
use.
Permit
is
two
thousand
dollars,
plus
any
additional
cost.
G
And
then
so,
some
of
the
benefits
of
the
admin
review
process
I
think
I've
identified.
But
this
also
would
reduce
cost
and
time
and
resources
for
staff
and
the
applicant,
and
this
could
also
or
will
I
should
say,
improve
the
enforcement
and
inspection
process
because
with
the
Outdoor
Cafe
license,
there'll
be
an
annual
fee,
and
that
provides
an
opportunity
for
our
zoning
staff
and
staff
and
environmental
services
to
conduct
routine
inspections
to
make
sure
that
folks
are
complying.
And
you
know
with
their
approved
layout,
that's
on
their
license
and
I.
G
Do
want
to
note
that
considering
or
maintaining
the
ability
for
the
County
Board
to
review
a
used
permit
approval
for
those
outdoor
cafes
that
are
in
public
access,
easement
areas
or
privately
owned
public
spaces
or
what
we
commonly
refer
to
as
pops.
So
those
would
still
go
to
the
county
board
for
a
use
permit
with
renewals.
G
Moving
on
to
private
property,
I
mentioned
some
of
the
cases
where
some
off-street
parking
spaces
have
been
converted
to
cafes.
This
is
an
example
just
down
the
street
here
in
West
Roslyn
at
Roadside
Grill,
where
they
converted
approximately
five
parking
spaces
into
an
outdoor
Cafe,
but.
B
G
The
zoning
ordinance
statement-
that's
recommending
a
amendment
to
prevent
some
of
these
going
forward
of
those
type
of
ptosis
I
mentioned.
We
have
145
ptosis
in
total
and
there's
only
approximately
10
of
those
that
are
using
Wall
Street
parking
spaces
and
they
typically
occupy
between
like
four
to
five
parking
spaces.
G
Some
of
the
more
popular
ones
are
23rd
Street,
Restaurant,
Row,
Crystal,
City
or
national
Landing.
Sorry,.
G
Some
of
the
considerations
we're
looking
at
The
Outdoor
Cafe
section
we're
not
currently
recommending
any
changes
to
the
parking
section
of
the
ordinance,
as
Val
indicated,
there's
additional
items
for
future
study
such
as
looking
at
commercial
parking
as
a
whole
and
not
just
restaurants.
So
that's
something
that
we
want
to
look
at
further
and
what
we're,
assuming
is
that
applications
types
quickly
of
a
filed
following
County
Board
adoption
like.
G
Would
only
impact
about
10
to
12.
doses,
food
design
standards,
the
next
steps-
and
this
should
be
it-
we're
going
to
continue
some
Focus
engagement
through
the
summer.
We're
going
to
be
coming
back
to
this
committee
on
June,
the
6th,
with
more
refined
recommendations
and
some
zoning
texts
for
you
all
to
review.
G
A
The
presentation,
those
conversations
with
us
if
anybody
had
any
questions
or
comments.
D
I
Yep
and
sure
and
Brett
you're
right,
I'll
have
questions
about
parking
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understood
things
when
we're
for
outdoor
cafes
I
know
that
our
parking
is
tied
to
the
number
of
seats,
sit
down
number
of
seats
in
the
restaurant.
This
that
number
include
tables
on
the
outside,
or
just
the
inside
seating,
for
the
for
the
parking
ratio.
Yeah.
G
So
it's
just
the
inside,
so
there
are
no.
There
is
no.
B
I
Inside
okay,
great
yeah
that
I'm
happy
with
that.
That's
good
and
yes,
I-
absolutely
support
doing
that
parking
study
as
the
Lord
in
as
part
of
the
larger
thing.
But
this
really
has
to
be
included
in
that
larger
study,
because
I
know
at
least
one
potential
restaurant
site
that
part
of
the
problem
with
them
opening
or
using
an
unused
building
is
parking
that
would
be
required
and
where
they
would
be
able
to
do
it
in
order
to
have
a
restaurant
on
that
site,
and
it's
just
very
frustrating
for
everybody.
I
So
yeah
thanks
that
was
that
was
my
question
and
you
answered
it.
H
Karen
well,
I
think
this
is
really
exciting
on
what.
B
H
Disability
I
know
that
at
least
church
right
there's
a
very
little
right-of-way
for
sort
of
ADA,
accessibility
and
I
presume
that
you're
obviously
going
to
be
looking
at
it
sort
of
enforcement
of
when
there's
violations
of
this.
But
what
are
some
of
the
other
challenges
that
you
think
could
have
could
arise
by
allowing
this
sort
of
to
go
through
and
not
and
not
I
mean
I
I
guess
let
me
make
sure
I'm
asking
the
correct
question
in
your
study.
How
are
you
guys
going
to
assess
the
impacts
of
ADA
accessibility.
G
One
first
would
be
looking
at
our
building
code-
environment,
Insurance,
Ada
environments,
to
ensure
that
there's
adequate
space
for
folks
to
get
around
these
things,
but
also
once
you're
within
one
if
you're
there's
adequate
space
for
Ada
access
within
the
upper
Cafe
itself,
but
also
getting
to
the
inside
of
the
restaurant
is
important
as
well
having
clear
means
of
egress
to
and
from
the
inside,
the
restaurant,
so
I
think
the
building
code
fire
code
and
then
we're
looking
at
some
of
the
regulations
that
we
presented
earlier
on
the
master
Transportation
plan
we're
going
to
be
developing
a
minimum,
clear
sidewalk.
G
G
G
In
for
a
cycling,
Amendment
reduce
an
eight
foot
down
to
a
six,
but
that's
going
to
require
the
amendment
account
yeah.
Also
the
there
will
be
a
building
permit
required
for
all
those
accessibility
requirements
kick
in,
so
the
people
in
the
restaurant
have
to
get
out.
G
G
So
currently,
most
of
our
enforcement
is
mostly
complaint
driven,
but
somebody
like
anybody
here
walking
by
and
saying,
hey,
so-and-so
restaurant
you
can
get
by
with
my
stroller
or
whatever
they
can
file
a
complaint
with
our
zoning
Enforcement
office
and
they
can
well
they'll
make
a
visit
and
issue
a
violation.
They'll
have
a
period
of
time
where
they
have
to
come
into
the
envirus.
That's
the
way
it
currently
works
today.
G
D
G
It's
just
like
you
know
here
there's
some
ways
you
can
come
into
defiance,
but
if
they
don't,
then
we
have
the
ability
to
remove
it
or
if
an
example,
if
we
were
coming
in
on
a
sidewalk
and
we
had
a
capital
Improvement
project
and
we're
putting
in
like
a
new
water
main
or
something
like
that,
and
the
cafe
was
in
the
way
we
have
the
ability
to
revoke
it,
have
it
removed.
So
we
can
do.
A
G
Public
base,
okay,
private
ones
and
those
were
the
used
permit.
I
have
a
different
person,
so
once
the
permit
is
established,
that's
amazing,
yeah.
So,
okay,
like
the
Roadside
Grill,
came
in
and
got
a
use
permit
to
reduce
their
parking.
Then
they
would
have
a
used
permit.
That
gets
renewed
on
one
three
or
five
years
cycle
day,
and
that
gives
it
time
to
for
staff
to
go
and
check
unless
there's
a
complaint
right:
okay,
but
the
like.
Well,
the
sidewalk
one
pressure.
G
So
there's
two
tools:
one's
for
private,
so
that's
the
encouragement
fee
and
license
will
be
applied
to
those
cafes
that
are
in
the
public
space
and
for
those
that
are
in
the
private
space
right.
They'll
have
the
constraint
and
the
certificate
of
occupancy,
which
can
also
be
revoked
if
necessary.
But
there
are
different
tools
depending
on
the
type
of
cafe
location.
A
G
It's,
probably
hard
to
find
yeah
I.
G
With
it,
because
we
refer
to
it
the
document,
that's
kind
of
like
an
all-in-one,
it
has
like
all
the
guidance
for
all
out
through
cafes,
public
private,
but
we're
looking
to
expand
it.
It's
only
six
pages
now,
okay,
so
to
your
point,
I
think
we-
and
there
are
so
many
great
presents
around
the
country
that
we
are
looking
to
illustrate-
are
some
of
these
principles
of
good
design
and,
and
also
you
know,
those
which
are
enforceable,
but
also
good
design,
guidelines
versus
standards.
G
H
Viewers
no
worries
separate
question:
I
noticed
in
the
road's
side,
Brill
picture
I
used
to
live
around
that
area.
It's
really
nice
that
now
that
I
have
that
additional
space
for
those
party
so
but
that
parking
has
been
taken
away
now,
so
are
always
really
interested
in
parking.
Now,
there's
limited
working
and
they're
going
to
go
around
the
neighborhoods
I
used
to
live
around
there.
So
there's
some
area.
H
G
We
are
in
the
process
of
developing
standards
for
that
debate
in
that
review,
because
you
know
some
of
these
cases,
they
may
have
excess
parking
where
they
could
convert
in
non-required
parking
spaces
to
an
upper
Cafe.
Currently,
our
zoning
doesn't
allow
any
conversion
of
parking
to
anything
other
than
so.
G
We
are
looking
at
working
on
some
draft
test
amendments
now
to
share
selling
committee
next
time,
but
I
think
one
thing
that
I
I
have
learned
from
our
transfer
transition
stuff
is
that
we
haven't
received
any
complaints
over
the
past
three
years
for
these
type
of
applications.
We've
got
some
examples
for
folks
that
just
completely
taken
over
the
entire
department
free
restaurants
in
23rd
Street,
there
is
also
mostly
I
think
three
years
of
the
pandemic,
so
there
was
less
people.
G
G
H
I
Yeah
actually
I
do
not
surprising
I
suppose
if
anything,
we
yeah
and
I
think
it's
a
good
point
that
commissioner
gorvarez
mentioned
that.
Well
maybe
people
weren't
driving
as
much
during
covet
but
pretty
much
it's
bounced
back
now.
You
know
people
driving
everywhere
in
fact
they're
using
driving
more
than
they
are
taking
the
subway,
but
it
doesn't
seem
to
have
affected
the
ability.
I
There's
restaurants,
to
draw
people
in
to
have
the
number
of
people
that
have
been
coming
before
it
doesn't
seem
that
they're
losing
those
parking
spaces
has
impacted
their
business
and
they
certainly
don't
seem
to
me
to
be
any
complaints
in
the
surrounding
neighborhoods,
because
oh
we're
we're
being
inundated
by
cars
going
to
the
restaurants,
so
I
mean
we
have
some
real
world
experience.
Now
that
these
parking
ratios
don't
really
have
any
relationship
to
reality
and
needs
I
mean,
and
we
could
tell
that
right
now.
I
Georgetown
has
lots
of
restaurants
that
have
no
parking
and
people
still
go
to
those
and
there's
no
Subway
there.
So
people
are
driving
if
they
want
to
go.
If
they're
not
walking
same
with
Old
Town
Alexandria,
you
know
we'll
go:
that's
not
close
to
the
subway.
If
we
go
down
there,
I've
walked
as
much
as
a
quarter
mile
away
from
getting
a
parking
spot
on
the
street
to
go
to
a
restaurant,
and
that's
been
fine
with
me.
I
I,
don't
see
why
in
our
commercial
districts,
whether
it's
it
even
needs
to
be
tied
to
the
distance
from
the
Metro,
so
you
know
it's
up
to
the
restaurant
to
decide
whether
they
have
enough
parking
for
their
customers
and
if
they
don't
have
enough
parking
and
it's
going
to
impact
them,
they're
not
going
to
open
and
if
they
don't
have
any
parking
and
they're
still
full.
Well,
that
tells
you
something
right
there.
I
So
I
am
strongly
in
favor
of
just
really
getting
rid
of
parking
minimums
and
letting
the
the
the
restaurant
owners
be
the
ones
to
determine
what
their
needs
are
and
whether
they're
going
to
be
accept.
Success
based
on
those
I
think
our
Real
World
experience
is
pretty
much
shown
that
there's
no
relationship
between
our
requiring
parking
and
the
success
of
the
restaurant
or
the
impact
on
the
surrounding
communities.
F
To
make
sure
I
understand,
so
the
old
process
use
permits,
it
cost
two
thousand
dollars
and
it
took
more
than
three
months
and
the
new
process
is
going
to
cost
less
and
take
less
than
three
months.
Or
can
you.
G
G
And
then
that's
the
way
our
administrative
changes
now
it's,
but
if
revisions
are
needed
to
the
same
people,
that
would
be
in
our
departmental
team
episodes
we'll
be
reviewing
this
administrative,
so
this
staff
time
is
about
the
same
as
the
the
length
of
time.
The
word
actions
that
really
add
the
length
and
expense
because
it
takes
something
to
the
word.
You
can't
just
do
it
alone.
You
can't
just
fill
out
that
application
yourself.
That's
what
we're
hoping
small
businesses
it's
in
within
a
couple
steps.
G
They
know
that
they
can
go
demonstratively
and
they
know
that
how
to
do
that,
but
we
don't
want
to
incentive
that
a
rabbit
hole
either
we're
really
trying
to
encourage
the
administrative
process
that
people
do
conform.
We
don't
want
them
to
go
to
a
use
permit.
We
don't
want
to
go
for
excitement
rather
than
work.
G
F
And
so
the
current
policy
that
allows
them
to
have
their
outdoor
cafes
is
going
to
expire
on
August
15th
and
on
August
16th.
Unless
they
have
already
got
this
new
permit
approved,
they
have
to
take
all
of
their
things
down.
They're
done
and
I.
B
C
G
Have
a
tosa
with
the
the
approve
use
permit
pre-pandemic,
you
can
always
go
back
to
that
approved,
use
permit
and
do
nothing
just
pull
back
your
toes
up
make
it.
You
know,
look
like
the
match.
The
approved
plans
from
the
County
Board
or
you
can
come
in
for
a
use.
Permit
Amendment.
If
you
want
to
expansion
or
continue
to
maintain
so.
F
F
They
submitted
that
day.
Oh
application
gets
submitted,
I
just
don't
want
us
to
to
get
to
August
15
the
day,
the
day
appropriate
time
to
fill
out
their
applications.
Then
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
the
end
of
summer.
All
the
tourists
are
here
they're
going
to
miss
Revenue,
which
then
leads
to
the
absence
of
tax
revenue
that
you
know,
benefits
accounting
as.
G
All
right,
I'm
not
going
to
go
after
as
long
as
they're
actively
on
whichever
path
that
is
appropriate.
So
this
is
more
rather
than
coming
to
us,
as
Brett
mentioned
we're
going
to
them
we're
identifying
goose
who
which
type
of
Specific
Instructions
they
understand.
But
yes,
that
you
saw
in
the
pictures
that's
going
to
change.
F
Password,
okay,
when
you
say
enclosed,
does
that
mean
if
somebody
had
a
winter
Cafe,
they
would
or
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
put
like
tinting
flaps
around
their
space
for
those
buckets
I.
G
Believe
those
were
allowed
I
can
check
into
that,
but
you
know
like
the
roll
up
kind
of
plugs,
like
the
plastic
yeah.
D
Guidelines
so
I
assume
that
those-
let's
get
back
to
you
on
that
yeah
before
we
speak
categorically
one
way
or
the
other,
that
you
know
Brett
and
I
attended
a
meeting
with
the
fire
marshal
and
the
building
official.
Earlier
today
and-
and
once
we
start
talking
about
tents,
we
get
into
a
special
regulatory
environment,
so
I
think
we
should
be
informative
as
best
we
can.
F
And
everybody
in
the
government
said
recently:
we
should
expect
20
to
40
chance
of
more
coveted
waves
coming
so
are
we
able
to
Pivot
quickly
if
you
get
to
some
big
waves
coming
or
is
it
like?
No
we're
done.
G
And
that's
really:
the
purpose
of
this
study
was
that
develop
some
permanent.
You.
G
Are
flexible
enough
to
accommodate
another
pandemic,
but
certainly
something
we're
not
claiming
for
at
the
moment?
Well-
and
there
are
also
this
is
Phase
One
of
looking
at
opportunities.
G
A
great
point:
Economic
Development
has
sort
of
identified
some
other
areas
that
we
want
to
continue
to
look
at,
and
that
would
be
one
of
them
and,
for
example,
we
were.
This
is
not
going
to
allow
the
Cafe's
parking
spaces
that
see
so
we
do
not
have
because
that,
as
Brett
mentioned
in
the
ordinance,
a
parking
space
is
really
intended
for
one
use.
It's
for
an
automobile.
G
Now
we've
been
able
to
put
a
parklets
there
because
anything,
that's
an
extension
for
the
public
benefit,
such
as
a
pedestrian
facility
or
a
park
and
encroach
into
Street
area,
because
it's
still
once
you
create
a
commercial
use
in
that
parking
space
for
nonth
area.
So
you
know
there's
value
in
that
space.
There's
you
know
we
actually
look
at
how
much
meters
you
know
in
terms
of
Revenue
and
saying
how
does
that
cover
that?
So
that's
a
second
phase,
I
think
you're
right
it's.
How
do
we
expand
as
needed?
G
F
B
F
G
G
A
A
A
G
I
should
I
have
not,
but
I
didn't
have
the
First
shows
extended
for
six
months,
then
the
county
manager
had
the
ability
to
extend
it
for
another
six
months
during
the
January.
So
now,
that's
why
it's
ending
August
in
our
conversations
with
the
County
attorneys,
no
way
to
extend
it
any
further,
but
that
is
not
line
by
the
state.
That's
right!
That's
why.
J
You
reading
great
I'm
familiar
with
the
Coco,
so
there
are
a
couple
of
different
things
that
allowed
for
for
these
ptosis
one.
J
The
kogo
basically
stated
that
certain
elements
of
our
code,
our
zoning
code-
would
not
be
enforced,
so
that
also
included
the
food
delivery
piece
of
it,
which
is
why
there
weren't
any
use
permits.
So
the
sort
of
going
back
to
that
first
piece
that
you
you
listened
to
this
evening.
J
The
second
piece
was
there
was
actually
a
section
in
the
kogo
that
spoke
to
toses
the
standing
up
of
ptosis,
and
then
it
was
amended
to
include
patoses
and
those
were
toses
that
were
on
publicly
accessible
spaces
that
were
sort
of
shared
areas.
One
was
stood
up
in
Shirlington,
it
no
longer
exists,
so
long
story
short,
we
weren't
enforcing
certain
things,
and
now
we
no
longer
have
the
ability
to
not
enforce
things.
A
I
think
we'll
wrap
it
up
yeah.
It
was
our
next
steps.
D
I
think
just
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
you
know:
I'll
be
working
with
Brett
as
on
drafting
some
of
their
texts
that
was
sexually
discussed,
so
any
sort
of
closing
thoughts
or
comments
or
feedback
for
Commissioners.
To
sum
up
what
they've
heard
tonight,
any
any
areas
of
attention
or
concern
or
right
areas
that
would
benefit
from
additional
Clarity,
we
can
take
that
and
help
that
inform
your
briefing
next
sounds.
H
To
the
whole
thing:
well,
it's
exciting
to
be
some
changes
that
may
be
coming
about
in
Arlington,
particularly,
but
it's
continuing.
F
I
No
other
than
it's
a
great
initiative,
definitely
it'll
be
in
favor
of
it.
Moving
forward.
A
Perfect
me
too,
I
will
say
I
strongly
support.
This
I
strongly
support
the
staff
work
on
this
thanks
for
the
great
presentations.
You
know
we
learned
a
lot
tonight.
You
guys
were
very
informative
and
so
I
really
appreciate
you
guys
providing
all
this
information
for
us
and
yeah.
We
continue
to
support
this
and
anything
that
we
can
do
to
help
and
expedite
it.
We're
happy
to
do
it
and
you
know,
particularly
with
the
tosos.
A
Yeah
right
so
anything
that
we
can
do
to
expedite
those
to
make
sure
that
you
know
everybody
continues.
Operating,
is
sort
of
and
I'm
happy
to
assist
my
citizen
capacity.
But
to
this.