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Armagh City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council Economic Development & Regeneration Committee on Tuesday the 14th of September 2021 at 6.30pm
B
B
C
B
Number
three
and
we'll
have
a
presentation
from
the
agriculture
strategy
and
the
presentation
will
be
presented
by
dr
jonathan
bernie
and
mr
ashley
hassan,
so
from
burnley
consultancy,
okay,
dr
jonathan
and
ashley
welcome
to
the
the
september
meeting
just
before
we
start
to
just
let
you
know
the
the
presentation
is
10
minutes,
15,
10,
15,
minutes
presentation
and
then
like
10
or
15
minutes
for
questions
so
I'll
be
keeping
you
fairly
strictly,
not
there
because
we'll
have
a
fairly
heavy
agenda.
So
thank
you
and
if
you're
happy
to
start
away
with
I'm
going
ahead.
D
That
was
great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
always
nice
to
get
the
full
title
and
all
the
rest
of
that,
but
listen.
Thank
you
very
much,
folks,
really
just
going
to
try
and
stick
quite
strongly
in
the
time
I'm
sitting
here
with
the
timer
in
front
of
me.
So
we're
not
too
bad.
This
is
a
detailed
strategy.
It's
a
strategy
that
is
focused
obviously
in
what
the
council
can
do.
It
is
not
an
agricultural
strategy
for
the
industry
per
se.
D
It's
very
much
focused
on
what
the
council
can
do
so
as
we
go
through
it,
please
feel
free.
You
know
obviously
note
down
questions,
I'm
quite
happy
to
answer
any
any
of
your
your
questions
as
we
go
along,
but
in
this
time
we'll
keep
moving,
I'm
just
going
to
stick
up
slideshow
there,
and
hopefully
you
can.
You
can
see
that
so
really,
just
to
give
you
a
bit
of
a
a
quick,
quick
update
on
what
we
did,
I
mean.
D
You
know
house
agriculture
going
to
change
and
how
do
we
get
ready
for
it
and
and
we
as
a
consultancy,
are
quite
heavily
involved
in
a
lot
of
other
future
projects
which
helps
us
a
bit
with
this.
So
without
too
much
further
ado.
Just
to
give
you
a
few
figures
and
a
bit
of
an
outline
about
the
things
we
considered
and
then
we'll
focus
mainly
on
the
recommendations.
D
So
just
to
give
you
a
bit
of
an
idea,
I
mean
agriculture
and
agri-food
is
very
important
to
abc
council
area
as
a
proportion
of
the
overall
northern
sector.
It's
about
13,
but
I
say
it's
the
biggest
sect
you
know
and
for
quite
a
number
of
the
different
production
types
you
know.
So
it's
the
largest
in
serials,
it's
the
largest
in
general,
cropping.
D
There's
no
question
that
given,
given
that
the
covet
situation
on
the
cost
is
going
to
be
pressure
and
the
longer
term
to
revise
that
downwards.
As
cap
is
reformed
and-
and
that
is
very
much
going
to
transfer
to
environmental
and
and
as
it
were,
public
good
payments,
so
that's
a
significant
player
in
the
industry
getting
ready
for
the
future
again.
This
is
just
a
little
graph
that
gives
you
an
idea.
The
two
big,
solid,
green
ones,
on
your
left
as
you're.
D
So
you
can
you
can
sort
of
see
the
balance
of
enterprises
that
you
have,
but
that
is
not
by
balance
of
value
and
you
already
have
the
figures
on
the
overall
value
there
anyway.
So
the
key
bits
for
this
here
want
to
consider
when
we
were
putting
this
strategy
together,
we
considered
a
number
of
things
number
one:
the
impact
of
those
changing
farm
support
structures.
D
Number
two:
we
all
know
the
environment
is
a
big
big
issue
and
it's
it's
going
to
be
market
critical,
as
well
as
just
society
critical,
so
there's
a
huge
impetus
from
both
ends
to
get
us
towards
sustainable
farming.
Three
culture
change
in
farming
and
without
being
flippant
about
it.
I
always
notice
that
farmers
are
happy
to
spend
80
or
90
000
on
a
new
tractor,
but
they're
not
willing
to
spend
a
thousand
pounds
on
on
themselves
or
you
know,
or
learning
or
proving
themselves-
that's
not
totally
true,
but
it's
a
general
yeah.
D
It's
a
it's
a
general
observation
and
encouraging
people
to
build
into
their
own
skills
and
raise
their
own
level
is
really
important
and
there's
a
culture
change
needed
around
that
and
that
follows
on
into
the
enablers
and
tools,
which
is
the
training
and
all
the
rest
of
that
plus
0.5.
There.
The
labor
and
automation
angle
that's
coming
forward.
We
all
know
that
we're
going
to
be
struggling
for
for
for
manual
workers
in
the
future,
there's
a
need
to
improve
labour
productivity
and
automation
and
robotization
going
to
be
really
important.
D
0.6
diversification
and
development.
Again
key
no
more
lands
being
made.
Every
farmer
is
able
to
do
more,
and
that
therefore
means
there
will
be
fewer
farmers.
And
if
people
want
to
remain
in
in
rural
communities,
there
has
to
be
the
opportunity
for
them
to
have
jobs,
businesses
there
to
employ
and
one
sort
of
interesting.
D
So
that's
that's
sort
of
the
the
sort
of
the
summary
and
I
apologize
that
this
is
really
a
quick
run
through,
but
already
down
six
minutes,
so
we'll
try
and
do
a
minute
a
slide
here
and
then
that
should
take
us
down
to
where
we're
at.
But
what
we
did
was
to
produce
them
a
series
of
recommendations
that
the
council
should
consider
from
the
contextual
stuff
that
we
we
have
put
together
and
essentially,
we've
pulled
a
few
points
out
of
this.
D
D
That
farmers
will
be
found
useful
or
interesting,
and
it's
essentially
about
delivering
effective,
short,
relevant
messaging,
and
it
does
mean
it
needs
to
be
done
against
an
agree,
communication
plan
and-
and
that's
what
was
said
in
this
as
well
number
three
facilitation
of
skills
development.
I've
said
a
little
bit
on
that
already,
but
just
a
big
focus
on
the
skills
that
are
currently
difficult.
D
The
access
reformers
are
not
accessed
at
all
business
training,
treating
your
farm
as
a
business,
making
business
decisions
to
personal
development,
which
includes
the
management
of
mental
health,
and
we
were
trying
to
time
the
mental
health
challenge
and
overall
business
training.
So
there's
no
stigma
associated
that
it's
actually
tied
in
with
just
making
yourself
and
your
business
better.
D
D
Who's
better
than
us
farmer
doesn't
always
have
that
option
have
to
be
jack
of
all
trades
and
it's
challenging
so
actually
making
it
easy
to
access
support
and
and
good
information
is
really
really
quite
key,
and
essentially
the
other
one
was,
as
we
said
already
high
environmental
performance
and
we'll
we'll
touch
on
that
in
a
little
while
the
other
one
with
us
here.
Knowing
that
we
need
culture
change,
knowing
that
there
are
those
four
or
five
really
key
areas.
You've
got
some
really
high
profile.
D
Farmers
appoint
agriculture
champions
for
the
borough,
who
will
focus
on
promoting
one
of
those
areas:
personal
development,
high
environmental
performance,
good
mental
health.
If
you
want
to
pull
that
one
out,
business,
training
and
skills
training
all
of
those
there,
but
two
or
three
people
or
four
or
five
people
who
are
recognized
and
respected
in
the
borough,
can
go
a
long
way
to
encourage
other
farmers
to
get
involved
in
those
sort
of
real
development
areas.
D
D
We
are
going
to
have
the
need
for
energy
systems,
and
energy
networks
in
in
the
borough.
You're,
basically,
looking
at
you
know,
could
be
hydrogen
could
be.
Biomethane
could
be
a
much
upgrading
of
of
the
electricity
network
to
to
be
able
to
sort
of
charge
heavy
machinery
and
also
just
to
suck
back
up
the
electricity,
the
renewals
that
that
are
already
being
wasted.
D
So
to
speak,
we
waste
18
percent
of
what
we
generate
so
there's
a
huge
amount
there
about
the
council,
working
with
other
councils,
the
lobby
for
those
structural
upgrades
and
to
work
with
their
planning
team
to
make
that
happen,
and-
and
I
suppose
lastly,
broadband
utterly
critical
as
well
and
getting
absolutely
lightning
fast.
Broadband
will
get
businesses
and
jobs
and
people
everywhere
there
in
in
the
communities.
D
Number
seven
abc
rule
strategy
again.
Putting
this
within
a
context
and
working
towards
a
strategic
plan
is
really
important
as
well,
but
you
will
know
that
anyway,
a
couple
of
things
we're
highlighting
there
equine
sector
agri-food
tourism
really
critical
areas.
We
haven't
gone
into
them
in
great
detail
because
there
was
enough
and
what
else
we
were
doing-
we're
suggesting
further
depth
into
that
agri-food.
Tourism
is
going
to
be
critical
and
actually
draw
loads
and
loads
of
people
in
really
important,
and
it's
an
area
that
almost
demands
its
own
study.
D
So
that's
if
I
had
to
summarize
and
listen
one
and
one
sort
of
key
sentence.
It
would
be
actually
for
the
council
to
make
business
easy
and
so
far
as
you
can,
because
if
you
can
make
it
easy,
it
will
just
encourage
the
growth
of
business.
So
I'm
going
to
finish
there,
mr
chairman,
if
that's
okay
and
hand
back
over
to
you.
B
That's
that's
great
and
thanks
very
much
for
a
brief
synopsis
of
the
presentation.
So
thank
you
members.
We
have
a
few
looking
to
come
in
here
and
just
the
point
that
I
took
out
of
it.
Jonathan
was
the
the
labour
issue,
just
like
I'm
involved
in
construction,
and
it
is
a
big
issue
at
the
minute
in
agriculture
and
construction.
Well,
that's
just
a
point
you
want
to
make,
but
first
on
the
on
the
list,
they
speak
and
I
just
thought
it
would
have
been
a
farmer
on
its
country,
savage.
E
Thank
you,
chair
jonathan
thanks
very
much
for
your
report,
detailed
report
and
it's
very
in-depth
and
you
there's
a
lot
of
work
has
gone
into
it
and
I
appreciate
that
I
suppose
a
couple
of
points
you
have
raised
there,
but
food
heartland-
that's
something
counselors
have
raised
about
a
year
ago
on
council
the
need
to
push
that
food
tourism.
I
had
the
pleasure
of
being
a
downfield
to
stay
up
there
on
saturday
and
people
from
bangor
porter
ferry
right
across
you
know.
E
People
will
travel
for
that
artisan
food
and
that's
great
and
that's
what
we
need
to
be
linking
in
on.
We've
got
to
create
that
niche
niche
is
whenever
you
make
money.
So
it
is
that's
good
business
sense.
So
that's
what
we've
got
to
be
doing,
I'm
glad
to
see
yet
you've
raised
the
mental
health
issue.
That's
one
that
I
have
been
shouting
about
so
often
as
my
phone
goes
off
and
the
mental
health
is
a
big
problem
within
the
rural
community.
E
I
think
some
of
the
figures
45
of
farmers
on
the
age
of
40
within
the
uk
are
suffering
mental
health
problems.
That's
the
elephant!
In
the
room,
because
that's
the
generation,
what
we
expect
to
feed
the
ever-growing
populations
in
the
world,
so
we
have
to
look
at
that
and
closer
working
relationship
with
council.
Now
one
interesting
thing
you
did
say
it
was
about
what
I
call
the
kitchen
sink
industries,
it's
something
we
picked
up
and
soar
a
number
of
years
ago.
E
The
real
development
end
and
we
had
exciting
plans
for
a
food
incubation
unit
tying
in
linking
in
with
the
colleges
not
to
help
that
young
person
or
persons
to
the
commercialization
of
their
product
and
help
them
grow.
Because
there's
a
lot
a
lot
of
those
industries
and
around
be
it
cup,
cakes,
be
it
fudge,
be
it
whatever
you
know.
So
it
is
a
big
opportunity.
E
Look,
I
don't
want
to
hug
a
one
thing
I
will
finish
on,
and
that
is
renewables
the
currently
it's
costing
the
taxpayers.
In
northern
30
million
a
year,
30
million
of
electricity
has
been
dumped,
sent
the
ground
from
the
wind
turbines
are
utilized,
and
that
is
a
massive
problem.
We've
got
to
top
in
technology
is
fast
moving.
There's
a
lot
of
exciting
things
coming
down
the
road
here
and
I
think,
especially
with
gas
prices
and
the
electricity
prices
go
on.
E
E
You
know
we
have
that
issue
of
upskilling
reskilling
and
staying
with
people
and
encouraging
them,
and
that-
and
I
think
that's
what
we
need
to
do
and
where
this
council
takes
the
lead
and
sets
up
that
database
within
abc
where
we're
in
contact
with
our
local
businessman
in
the
farming
sector.
I
think
that's
so
important
for
the
future.
Thank
you
very
much
jonathan
good
to
thank
you.
B
D
I'll
just
say
I
fundamentally
agree
on
kyle's
point
as
well
on
on
the
waste
of
renewables
is
shocking.
I
say
I
mean
we
picked
that
up
as
well
what
we've
been
talking
to
actually
the
the
central
energy
guys
and
it's
it's
crucial
that
that's
dealt
with
it
just
seems
a
madness.
Everything
else
totally
agree
with
you
totally.
F
D
Yeah
absolutely
and
the
prophecy
you
could
actually
do
this
presentation
in
about
two
hours
as
well,
so
you're
good.
So
there's
so
much
you
can
explore,
but
the
whole
central
one
of
our
biggest
challenges
is
water
quality
and
air
quality.
There's
a
lot
of
tech
that'll
be
able
to
allow
us
to
sort
out
things
like
ammonia
and
stuff
like
that
there,
but
that
ties
in
very
tightly
to
the
you
know.
D
Whole
challenges
around
slurry
use,
slurry
transport
and
one
of
the
really
key
bits
is
going
to
be,
in
my
mind,
central
processing
units
that
actually
can
nutrient
strip
and
actually
replace
the
use
of
artificial
fertilizers
as
well.
I
mean
I,
I
have
a
suspicion
over
the
next
bit
that
the
methane
that
people
are
panicking
about,
isn't
going
to
really
be
a
problem
in
the
same
way
because
it
breaks
down
and
as
long
as
you're,
not
increasing
numbers.
The
methane,
I
think,
will
become
less
of
an
issue.
D
Nitrous
oxide,
if
you
ever
from
artificial
fertilizers
and
also
runoff
from
slurries
on
on
poultry,
manure
and
things
in
the
land,
is
a
big
challenge.
What
I
want
to
say
is
deer
are
pulling
some
really
brilliant
stuff
together
and
that's
where
they
support.
We
need
to
get
on
the
back
of
that,
but
I
do
think
that
the
council
can
help
by
understanding
central
treatment
plants
and
other
technologies
to
actually
impact
and
actually
allowing
us
to
get
those
in
quickly
and
managing
them.
D
Well,
so
there's
a
huge
bit
around
there
too,
but
I
do
think
our
food
systems
are
actually
going
to
transform.
I
actually
think
agriculture
is
going
to
become
part
of
the
solution,
not
part
of
the
problem.
It's
going
to
take
time,
and
it's
partly
that
culture
thing
we
talked
about
as
well,
because
if
a
farmer
only
sees
himself
or
herself
as
actually
a
food
producer,
they
will
focus
solely
on
food
production.
D
We
have
to
be
in
a
position
where
abc
farmers
to
varying
degrees
by
the
way
see
themselves
as
both
food
producers
and
environmental
good
producers,
and
it
might
mean
that
that
you
know
the
predominant
production
from
an
upland
farm
will
be
environmental
goods
and
the
predominant
from
a
lowland
farm
will
be,
will
be
food
production,
but
all
the
same,
the
industry
comes
together
to
balance
it
out
and
you're,
not
less
of
a
farmer,
because
75
percent
of
your
output
is
environmental
or
you're.
Not,
you
know
a
problem
because
80
of
what
you
do
sweet
production.
D
G
Yeah,
thanks
chair
and
and
thanks
jonathan,
like
others,
have
said
for
your
report
very
detailed
on
a
good
read
of
it
and,
and
I
think,
you've
pretty
much
touched
on
everything
you
needed
to
and
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
I
want
to
pick
up
on
and
again
it's
just
something.
I've
always
felt
with
the
food
heartland.
G
I,
how
do
we
make
that
a
brand
in
in
in
our
borough
and
beyond,
and
that
you
know
our
produce
here
will
have
the
food
heartland
on
it
or
whatever.
That's
something.
I
would
be
interested
in,
seeing
that
the
food
hardness
becomes
a
a
recognized
brand
for
for
quality
and-
and
you
know
for
for
for
the
consumer
and
the
other
one
points
have
sort
of
been
dealt
with.
The
other
one.
The
only
other
one
I
want
to
mention
was
thick,
and
I
agree
with
you.
G
You
know
they
have
the
ability
to
produce,
as
as
as
country
savage
a
has
has
said
about
the
the
the
the
they
have
the
the
land
and
they
have
the
opportunity
to
put
in
new
technologies,
etc
and
potentially
go
off
grid
and
with
bobby
stories,
etc.
Because
I
know
something
from
from
from
my
personal
experience
on
on
on
on
our
family
farm.
We
we
looked
put
in
a
windmill
at
one
stage,
but
the
connection
the
ni
grid
was
absolutely
colossal
because
you
had
to
get
into
three
phase
electricity.
G
A
lot
of
those
things
actually
put
farmers
off
and
I
suppose,
when
it
touches
the
finance
and-
and
I
totally
agree
with
you-
you
know
that
new
technologies
and
things
are
going
to
be
definitely
within
farming.
Those
things
cost
money.
So
I
think
the
banks
need
to
get
on
board
as
well
in
relation
to
this,
and-
and
you
know
by
the
big
picture
here-
the
long-term
strategy
performance
in
northern
ireland
and
there
will
have
to
be
a
a
resource
there-
of
support
both
financially
and,
as
you
say,
technology
as
well,
but
definitely
jonathan.
G
D
I'll
just
say
a
couple
of
things
I
mean
I
mean
back
here
at
your
branding
thing
again.
We
know
that
brands
can
work
and
do
work.
You
know
if
the
price,
what
I
was
going
to
say
what
we
have
found
with
the
the
branch
of
smaller
areas,
is
they
need
to
be
product
led
you
need
of
halo
products
and
some
are
really
really
good
range
of
products.
D
You
need
to
be
leading
it
with
it
with
a
great
social
media
side
of
things,
and
we've
done
this,
where
you
know
we're
involved
with
tier
three
we've
done
sort
of
the
naturally
stuff
we've
been
involved
with
kildare
involved
with
carlo
and
this
type
of
stuff
as
well,
and
that's
the
type
of
thing
it's
so
important.
Your
actual
social
media
is
so
important
and
tying
it
into
your
tourism
department
as
well,
because
it's
symbiotic
so
but
it's
product
led.
D
I
have
to
really
clear
that
product
lead
and
communication
which
really
shouts
about
it
and
just
beautiful
visuals,
and
also
that's
so
important,
and
it's
kind
of
why
we're
also
recommending
further
study
under
that
agri-food,
because
we
haven't
done
it
justice.
In
my
mind,
for
this,
this
is
an
ag
strategy.
The
other
things
you
talk
about
again
fundamentally
agree.
I
mean
the
whole
electricity
thing,
yeah
really
really
crucial.
D
I
wonder
if
electricity
is
a
solution,
though,
if
I'm
honestly,
before
you
know
heavy
machinery
and
things
I
think
we'll
bring
the
grid
down,
I
think
we're
genuinely
looking
at
either
biomethane
or
hydrogen,
and
we
need
to
be
sort
of
flicking
onto
that
as
well.
I
mean
the
renewables
are
important
for
for
home
and
business
supply,
but
the
the
you
know
you
can
imagine
signage
time.
H
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you,
jonathan,
for
a
really
comprehensive
report
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
engagement
with
ourselves
and
many
many
others
and
it's
filtered
through
as
well.
So
really
really
appreciate
just
a
couple
of
general
comments,
I
suppose
really
the
headlines
and
they're
376
million
an
abc
area
alone
over
one
billion
across
the
three
south
and
west
councils.
Absolutely
massive.
H
If
we
didn't
know
it
already,
it's
there
now
and
black
and
white
is
useful
for
us
as
members,
and
it's
also
very
useful,
I'm
sure
for
officers
as
we
as
we
move
forward
a
couple
of
wee
things
that
that's
supposed
to
stick
out
for
me.
Suppose
number
one
is
it's
great
to
see
the
the
expanding
and
evolving
of
the
food
heartland
in
there
at
number
one.
H
So
that's
that's
no
shock
to
any
of
us
and
that's
a
massive
part
of
our
borah
and
it's
and
it's
good
to
see
that
I
suppose
the
other
one
that
you
said
was
a
shock
to
you
and
it's
a
shock
to
me
and
that's
the
percentage
of
horticulture
and
inner
borough
as
a
percentage
of
of
ni.
And
that's
that's.
That's!
That's
massive
as
well
there
so,
but
that's
that's
interesting
for
ourselves
and
again
for
our
officers
even
moving
forward,
have
no
doubt
about
that.
H
That's
really
pertinent
to
keep
young
people
on
the
farms
they
keep
sustainability
and
success
and
planning
and
go
on,
and
I
know
that
even
in
recent
days
I
know
some
of
the
members
will
be
aware
this
as
well.
Even
some
of
the
recommendations
are
coming
through
at
the
moment
in
terms
of
planning,
advice,
notes
and
so
on.
H
It's
making
it
more
difficult,
it's
not
making
it
any
easier,
and
whilst
we
all
have
reviews
and
planning
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
it's
really
important
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
farms
now
are
massive
two
or
three
families
residing
on
the
farms.
So
it's
really
important
that
that
that
that
is
there,
and
that
is
something
that
probably
is
a
council
that
we
can
affect,
and
it's
important
that
we
keep
that
that
in
mind
and
I
suppose,
just
to
to
wrap
up.
H
The
other
thing
is,
you
know
we're
looking
at
massive
headlines
in
terms
of
finance
and
so
on
and
as
we
do
move
forward
in
the
agri-food
industry
and
as
we
do
face
change,
we've
had
this
debate.
If
we
remove
party
politics
from
it
completely
and
you
know
any
change
that
we
make
going
forward
and
we're
thinking
particularly
around
the
climate
change,
you
know
that
has
to
be
handled,
sensitively
and
proportionally
and
and
cannot
be,
allowed
to
and
and
argue
to
decimate
parts
of
the
industry.
H
B
I
Hey
chairman,
I
quite
a
lot
has
been
said.
I
don't
want
to
go
over
the
same
ground,
particularly
interested
in
the
report,
and
I
thank
you
for
it.
It
is
a
certainly
a
very,
very
detailed
report.
The
one
thing
it
does
point
up
is
the
need
for
partnerships
on
engagement
right
across
the
wider
sectors
or
for
our
farming
activity.
I
Let
it
be
the
colleges,
let
it
be
off,
be,
let
it
be
whatever
there
is
need
for
for
partnerships
and
as
a
as
a
council,
it
will
be
very
interesting
to
see
when,
in
fact,
we
get
recommendations
coming
out
of
this
report
as
to
the
way
forward
and
the
sequence
of
events
and
steps
that
that
we
as
a
council
have
got
to
take.
I
particularly
pleased
something
that
kyle
salvage
mentioned.
I
pushed
it
very
very
hard
on
the
rural
development,
and
that
was
the
issue
of
intubation
unit
for
creation
of
small
food
industries.
I
I
I
I
read
through
the
report,
there's
a
lot
in
it
folks,
there's
a
lot
of
work
for
us
to
do,
and
indeed
I've
been
interested
in
in
the
next
stage
of
how
we
roll
this
out
as
a
council
and
indeed
the
partnerships
that
we
will
engage
with.
Let
it
be
the
colleges,
let
it
be,
the
farming
community,
let
it
be
offbeat
or
whatever,
to
try
on
on
put
meat
on
the
bones
here.
It's
it's
certainly
a
good
start,
and
I
thank
you
for
it.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you,
sir,
and
thank
you
for
the
report
and
the
points
contained
within
it.
Some
of
them
were
new
and
interesting,
but
some
of
them
we
already
knew
two
years
ago
after
the
election,
when
we
met
as
a
committee,
we
were
asked
to
identify
our
priorities
going
forward
and
one
of
the
priorities
was
a
better
investment
in
the
food
heartland
and
I'm
not
sure
if
we're
any
further
today
than
we
were
two
years
ago.
J
But
if
we're
going
to
do
these
things-
and
I
think
they
are
worth
doing-
there's
going
to
have
to
be
a
financial
input.
So
I'm
not
going
to
put
the
director
in
the
spot
tonight,
but
I
would
be
asking
at
a
later
date.
Do
we
have
the
required
financial
input
for
this
department
to
help
help
move
things
on
on
agri-food
sector
stuff,
because
it's
very
important
very
quickly.
J
We
could
get
one
or
two
quick
wins
under
the
belt
in
the
meantime,
and
I
think
one
of
those
would
be
appointing
a
few
angry
champions
give
them
somewhere
to
meet
whether
it's
down
at
lochner
or
something
a
night
or
two
a
month.
Let
them
talk,
engage
and
let
us
engage
with
them
and
listen
to
them
and
take
it
from
there,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
I
know
council
has
limited
resources,
but
it's
where
you
put
your
buck
to
get
the
biggest
return,
honest
counselors.
J
D
Yeah
I
just
finished
up.
I
think
that
there's
so
many
good
points
there
that
just
just
picked
up
the
one
thing
that
is
so
crucial
to
remember
about
agriculture
is
that
you
know:
we've
got
a
big
farm
gear
price
there,
but
you
can.
You
can
multiply
by
two
and
a
half
as
a
minimum,
but
when
you
start
taking
that
into
business
and
things
as
well,
it's
a
great
distributor
of
wealth
and
some
of
you'll
be
aware.
D
Obviously
I
think
we're
also
involved
in
the
development
of
northern
ireland
agriculture
strategy
and
some
of
this
has
come
out
really
clearly
as
well.
So
it's
crucial
to
to
your
communities,
it's
crucial
from
a
job
creation
point
of
view.
It's
also
crucial
in
terms
of
just
managing
the
the
environment.
That's
around
us,
so
it's
so
important
and
what
I
will
say
is,
I
think,
to
some
extent,
we've
always
put
a
lot
of
work
into
this,
but
I
think
we've
actually
got
the
easy
job.
D
That,
then,
keeps
you
moving
forward
along
the
timeline,
and-
and
that
is
a
challenge
for
you,
but
I
have
no
doubt
you'll
be
able
to
do
it
and
it's
a
great
area
and
it's
the
enthusiasm
actually
for
the
industry
really
really
does
jump
out
even
from
the
likes
of
this
meeting.
So
I'll
wish
you
all
the
best
of
it
and
we've
really
enjoyed
doing
it.
Actually,
I
have
to
say.
B
Thanks
very
much
jonathan
and
I'm
sure
all
will
take
note
of
none
of
those
comments,
sir,
and
they
just
like
to
thank
you
again
and
thanks
ashley
for
the
presentation.
Well.
Thank
you,
okay.
Members.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
item
four
and
a
I.
I
think
I'll
just
take
this
next
item.
Please.
K
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
and
good
evening
members
and
just
following
on
from
the
presentation
tonight
and
that
jonathan
has
provided
and
members
are
aware
that
agriculture
is
a
significant
economic
contributor,
with
376
million
for
our
local
economy
and
from
the
presentation.
We're
also
aware
of
the
overall
output
and
contribution
to
northern
ireland
gva
as
well,
and
the
the
key
areas
that
are
starting
to
merge
are
by
the
importance
of
helping
farmers
and
businesses.
Access
information
and
support.
K
But
our
area
it
links
from
farm
to
fork
and
the
different
parts
from
the
farmers,
the
growers,
producers,
the
livestock
markets
to
logistics
and
then
the
retail.
So
it
is
so
integrated
for
our
local
economy
following
the
presentation
tonight
and
feedback,
and
the
strategy
will
go
out
for
public
consultation
through
our
consultation
hub
as
well,
and
then
in
the
context
of
government.
There's
a
review
ongoing
at
the
moment
on
agri-food
and
there's
also
that
they,
the
work,
that's
being
produced
through
there
as
well,
highlighting
it's
really
important
that
we
don't
duplicate
resources.
E
E
We
have
that
done
now,
so
we
don't
need
to
create
talking
shops.
We
need
action
to
follow
us
through
and
following
on
from
what
counselor
mutually
said
there
we're
bringing
those
key
stakeholders
together.
I
think
that's
very
important.
That's
an
easy
one
to
do.
Is
there
a
budget,
how
much
budget
and
all
that
needs
to
be
worked
out,
and
that
needs
to
be
worked
out
as
soon
as
possible,
because
we've
seen
the
agricultural
industry
is
worth
376
million
in
this
area.
E
You
know
set
up
within
our
council
area
of
every
single
farmer
that
we're
actually
engaging
that
we
care
about
every
farmer
within
our
area
and
we
want
to
help
them
to
grow
their
business.
For
the
good
of
each
and
every
one
of
us
here
and
look,
I've
got
to
say
a
whole
lot
more
about.
I
think
that's
enough.
Thank
you,
chair.
L
K
Technical
study
and
members
will
be
aware
that
there
have
been
discussions
through
the
railway
working
group
and
there's
been
wider
opportunities
to
explore
the
importance
of
major
infrastructure
schemes,
and
we
highlighted
this
as
part
of
our
response
back
to
the
union
connectivity
review
and
also
recently,
the
minister
for
infrastructure
announced
the
oil
island
railway
review
as
well,
and
when
you
know
the
importance
of
port
of
dying
in
relation
to
that,
and
we
undertook
a
procurement
exercise
to
undertake
a
feasibility
study.
But
we
were
unable
to
make
an
appointment
at
that
time.
I
I
Our
no
doubt
will
have
a
a
spotlight,
a
reflection
on
a
wider
scene
in
the
transportation
policy,
not
only
in
northern
ireland,
but
indeed
in
the
wider
in
the
wider
island,
and
in
that
context
I
I
think
this
is
a
a
key
part
of
the
strategy
in
working
up
this
document
to
to
a
comp
and
work
with
the
government
in
relation
to
to
this
issue.
So
I
have
utmost
pleasure
in
proposing
the
adoption
of
the
recommendation.
G
K
Yes,
and
in
terms
of
the
feasibility
study,
we
were
looking
at
much
more
of
the
wider
economic
and
social
benefits
linked
without
feasibility
study,
but
there's
a
very
particular
skill
set
needed
from
a
multi-disciplinary
team
to
undertake
that
type
of
work,
and
so
in
discussions
with
back
with
the
department
and
the
first
part
really
is
the
technical
study.
It's
the
assessment
is
a
railway
line
viable.
You
know
it
cannot
be
reinstated.
K
I
think
those
are
the
the
first
things
that
need
to
be
taken
on
board.
So
that's
why
we,
we
believe,
there's
a
transport
expertise
out
there
that
could
help
identify
whether
the
line
could
be
reinstated
or
and
what's
the
viability
of
that
as
well.
So
that's
the
difference
and
that's
where
the
department
are
willing
to
provide
this
level
of
funding
for
it.
M
K
N
Thank
you
church.
Thank
you.
All.
It's
just
a
question.
Oh,
we
did
have
something
similar
this
before
regards
part
funding.
The
software
says
how
much
have
we
then,
as
a
council,
contributes
this
additional
10
000
to
what
came
up
previously.
Just
I
know
we're
getting
money
from
the
department.
What
is
the
money
we
have
actually
committed
so
far,
just
this
from
the
council.
Thank
you.
Yoga.
K
Yes,
members
initially
asked
for
agreed
to
scope
and
study
to
be
undertaken,
and
that
was
a
very
high
level
overview
at
this
at
that
stage,
and
an
allocation
of
7
700
was
made
towards
that.
The
the
next
stage
is
a
technical
study
will
require
much
more
resources
towards
it.
So
the
department
of
agreed
a
fifty
thousand
pound
contribution
if
the
council
would
consider
a
ten
thousand
pound
contribution,
so
that
would
be
our
overall
commitment.
O
Thank
you,
chair
and
good
evening
members.
Yes,
item
5.1,
it's
christmas
2021
and
it's
recommended
that
members
agree
to
the
proposed
flexible
top
local
approach
to
the
christmas
marketing
campaign
and
to
organize
animation
days
in
banbridge
de
moore,
largan
and
porterdime
to
host
a
virtual
christmas
celebration
event:
virtual
festival
activity
for
craig
alvin
on
the
silent
christmas
event
to
free
car
parking
and
carnival
car
parks
in
urban
centers.
For
the
three
saturdays
in
december
and
the
animation
days
and
in
arma
city
for
georgian
day.
B
N
No
chair,
thank
you
once
again
for
the
report
there
and
I'd
be
happy
to
propose
that,
if,
if,
if
we
just
thank
you
for
the
work,
that's
going
on
that
just
also
may
be
out
of
the
world
of
thanks
to
the
team
that
has
been
working,
particularly
in
the
barn
bridge
area.
At
the
moment,
there's
a
lot
of
work
going
on
with
the
game
of
thrones
coming
over
quite
a
few
good
meetings
here
so
just
to
the
team
in
general.
N
G
G
It's
like
you
know
you
go
buy
your
coffee,
you
get
a
free
coffee,
every
every
every
you
know,
every
five
coffees
you
buy
is
that
worth
looking
into
you
know
sort
of
try
and
sort
of,
because
free
parking
is
good,
but
the
problem
with
free
parking
is
that
a
lot
of
the
shop
owners
park
on
it.
If
you
know
what
I
mean
and
other
people
use
it
as
like
a
park
and
ride.
G
So,
if
there's
some
way
of
even
for
365
days
a
year
to
introduce
some
sort
of
initiative
within
our
our
city
and
towns
that
we're
basically,
if
you
say
you
go
to
you
go
and
you
use
a
car
park
five
times
your
next
one's
free
for
an
hour
or
something
something
like
that.
Is
it
worth
our
while
looking
into
something
like
that,
just
an
idea.
B
O
J
Sure
I
think
it
has
been
proposing
second,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
it
I
believe
you
know
this
is
a
balanced
and
sensible
approach
to
christmas.
Unfortunately,
we're
not
just
out
of
the
pandemic
yet,
and
we
still
need
to
have
a
sense
off
balance
and
be
careful,
and
I
think
this
is
the
best
way
to
go
forward.
P
Yeah,
thank
you,
a
chairman
aim
and
thank
you
nichola
for
for
your
report.
Can
I
just
ask
a
okay
I'm
content
with
the
general
a
thrust
of
things
there,
but
in
relation
to
a
twilight
markets,
surely
things
that
such
as
the
twilight
market
is
outdoor?
It's
encouraging
people
into,
in
particular
I'm
thinking,
town
centers
beyond
the
areas
that's
already
included
in
the
report.
P
I
know
we
had
the
trial
in
the
likes
of
a
kitty
and
rich
hill
and
other
places
before
pandemic,
and
you
know
I
became
to
try
and
support
the
smaller
towns
and
villages
and
to
me
that's.
The
only
thing
that
I
see
is
that
the
gap
in
the
report
that
it
doesn't
highlight
those
areas
and
if
there
was
a
an
opportunity
around
the
twilight
markets,
again
they're
outdoors,
so
even
in
the
current
pandemic.
P
You
know
you
would
imagine
that
that
would
be
a
safe
and
would
be
a
in
keeping
with
regulations,
but
also
in
relation
to
opening
or
switching
on
of
christmas
lights.
Again,
you
know
people
have
come
through
two
pretty
tough
years,
and
you
know
those
things
that
are
outdoors
as
there
has
been
any
reason.
Why
those
events
aren't
been
held.
O
We
have
talked
to
our
community,
our
our
health
and
safety
people
internally
and
when
we've
considered
various
options,
and
we
are
convinced
that
we
should
not
be
recommending
toilet
markets
just
at
the
moment,
from
a
health
and
safety
point
of
view,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
executive.
At
any
event,
it
isn't
supported
at
the
moment
by
the
traders
and
the
chambers
and
wouldn't
be
something
that
we
would
be
recommending
that
council
take
forward.
B
P
P
You
know
to
me:
it
just
doesn't
make
sense,
and
I
became
that
that
would
be
teased
out
and
brought
back.
I
appreciate
work
in
september,
but
I'd
be
keen
that
we
get
that
day
tightened
up
and
brought
back,
but
I
think
it's
definitely
something
that
we
should
be
doing
a
with
all
due
respect
to
to
some
of
the
groups.
You've
consulted
they're.
P
All
very
much
a
centered
in
the
main
areas
of
a
retail
and
connection
they're,
not
the
small
towns
and
villages
that
who
really
do
need
this
boost
and
I'd
be
keen
to
see
that
looked
at.
So
I
would
ask
that
the
reports
brought
back
next
month
that
we
get
definite
guidance
or
we've
been
told.
We
cannot
have
christmas
light.
Switch-Ons
are
we
even
told
we
cannot
have
a
trade
in
a
markets?
I
think
I
would
very
much
like
that.
O
Absolutely-
and
I
don't
think
anywhere
in
the
report,
we
have
said
we're
not
allowed
to
do
things,
I'm
just
saying
that
as
officers
we're
taking
the
advice
and
a
guidance
that
is
there
at
the
moment,
and
it
is
our
job
to
make
recommendations
based
on
the
evidence
that
we
have,
and
at
the
moment
we
can't
recommend
the
twilight
markets.
Christmas
sweatshops
are
happening
in
a
different
way
through
a
process
of
animation
and
the
time
centers.
We
just
don't
want
to
encourage
people
gathering
around
the
stage
to
do
and
a
countdown
to
christmas.
P
L
Yes,
thanks
chair
and-
and
thank
you
very
much,
nichola
very
much
welcome
your
report
and
I
do
think
it
is
a
balanced
report
just
under
the
circumstances,
but
just
a
quick
question
really
on
it:
the
urban
centers
and
the
animation
days.
I
think
this
may
be
a
date
omitted.
Is
there
a
date
for
bambridge
in
that
at
all,
or
should
I
don't
see
it
in
the
report?
Maybe
I'm
I've
missed
it
somewhere,
but
just.
O
Actually,
there
has
been
a
date
of
minute.
Well,
it's
not
a
day.
It
is
the
band
you
have
not
put
in
band
bridge
time,
centers
on
the
27th
of
november,
and
I
know
that
we
were
ringing
around
all
counselors
whenever
we
spotted
the
mistake
that
should
not
have
been
left
out,
but
that
is
van
bridge
27th
of
november
for
the
animation
day
there
thank.
Q
Thank
you,
sir.
In
relation
to
the
free
parking,
so
you
joined
the
nikola.
That
would
be
the
4th,
11th
and
18th
of
december
would
have
not
been
an
idea
also
to
include
christmas
eve,
the
24th,
which
is
a
very
busy
day
in
all
our
times.
The
last
minute
shoppers
and
everybody
are
on
the
boat,
there's
a
possible
job
that
friday,
the
24th
of
december
and
for
the
free
car
parking.
It's
just
an
idea.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
J
B
A
O
Thank
you
very
much.
John
yes,
5.2
is
in
relation
to
employability
and
skills.
It's
recommended
that
members
support
the
revised
irma
city
band,
bridge
and
creightonborough
council
interim
labor
park,
market
partnership,
draft
action
plan
2122
and
the
outlined
approach
to
strengthen
our
position
and
to
impact
positively
on
inclusive
economic
recovery
and
growth.
E
E
So,
okay,
we're
catching
up
here,
but
it's
important
that
we
skill
upskill.
You
have
mentioned
in
there
again
about
the
mental
health
issues.
We
have
so
I'm
happy
to
support
this,
so
it
is,
but
it's
good
to
see
it
counts
as
engaging,
and
hopefully
us
engagement
continues
on
through
the
school
network.
So
it's
important
that
we
connect
business
with
education
that
we're
educating
the
young
people
for
the
jobs
and
potential
jobs
that
we
have
in
the
country
to
try
and
stop
the
brain
drain
out
of
the
country.
So
I'm
happy
to
propose
nicole.
G
Yeah
thanks
chair
and
thanks
nick
of
the
report
and
happy
the
second
chair
on-
and
I
think
you
touched
on
earlier
yourself.
Sure
construction
at
the
minute
is
really
really
in
a
bad
place
in
relation
to
resources
and
and
we
need
to
get
people
into
construction.
Otherwise
and,
as
you
know,
yourself
sure,
a
it's,
it's
going
to
be
a
very
different
place
and
the
other
industry
just
suffering
as
well.
I
think
I
brought
up
nicola
as
well
was
hospitality
again.
You
know
this
whole
thing
of
it.
G
Being
a
job
for
somebody
at
university
or
at
school
is,
is
fine,
but
in
in
these
larger
establishments
they're
having
definitely
finding
you
know
people
and
again
it's
something
that
hopefully
this
this
employability
and
skills,
a
a
what
the
theme
here
that's
going
on
will
will
will
help,
but
it
it
it's.
It's
definitely
an
issue
out
there
at
the
minute
and
and
there's
many
other
industries
as
well
suffering.
But,
as
I
say,
this
maybe
will
help
and
ease
things.
So
thanks
nichola
for
having
a
second
chair.
P
R
Yes
sure,
thank
you.
No
just
look
well,
I
just
think
about
some
large
employee
players,
not
not
from
the
borough
but
we're
looking
to
promote
their
businesses.
You
know
with
trailers
and
stuff
within
council
cure
parks
and
just
couldn't
get
a
permit,
and
they
were
saying
it
was
taking
too
long
to
get
permits
through
that
they
ended
up
in
rushmere
and
some
of
the
other
bigger
centers,
where
they
could
tone
it
around.
B
O
Thank
you,
terry.
It's
5.3.
It's
regarding
evidence
base
for
warehousing
on
logistics,
help
and
update
on
engagement
with
the
transport
and
logistics
sector.
So
it's
recommended.
The
members
approved
engagement
with
the
transport
and
logistics
sector
and
the
ongoing
research
to
develop
an
evidence
base
to
inform
a
warehousing
and
logistics
hub
in
the
barrel.
M
Thanks
very
much
for
letting
me
in
there
those
reports
very
much
welcome
before
the
summer
himself
and
counselor
kelly
savage
had
visited
a
transport
and
logistics
business
in
the
bar
and
their
plans
going
forward
on
their
their
their
expansion
plans
and
we're
looking
more
engagement
from
the
council
on
other
bodies.
So
I
very
much
welcome
this
report
on
the
hobby
to
propose.
We
accept
its
recommendation.
Thank
you
sure.
Thanks.
H
Teacher
and
happy
happy
the
second
just
maybe
appropriate,
to
comment
as
we
speak
about
logistics,
the
fantastic
investment
into
the
market,
industrial
estate
from
amazon,
amazon,
logistics,
20,
permanent
jobs
and
possibility
of
100
plus
drivers
been
taken
on
there
as
well.
So
I
think
it's
only
right
and
proper.
H
We
we
recognize
those
within
the
council
and
other
bodies
who
have
pushed
hard
for
that,
and
it
just
shows
that
even
away
from
from
the
north
south
corridor,
the
belfast
dublin
corridor
that
we
can
attract
this
type
of
business,
seven
thousand
square
meters
into
into
the
machine
industrial
state.
So
absolutely
fantastic
and
well
done
to
those
in
council,
and
it's
only
right
and
proper.
H
We
put
that
on
record
and
just
to
digress
slightly,
but
but
remaining
and
kind
of
the
same
area,
and
that
is
as
we
speak,
about
infrastructure
and
logistics,
and
something
that
has
been
raised
with
me
again
recently
is
the
the
possibility
of
of
that
mahan.
The
mahan
link
road,
the
the
arma
across
to
the
mahan
and
across
the
chandragi
road
and
the
southeast
is
at
where
porterdine
already
parts
of
that
road's
in
place.
H
Other
parts
of
the
land
still
protected,
but
I
think
just
in
light
of
of
what's
happening
in
the
mahan
area
and
also
just
a
huge
volume
of
traffic
coming
in
the
a27
may
26,
and
so
on
that
that
that
may
be
looked
at
again
nicola
through
that
we
would
maybe
put
that
back
on
the
agenda.
It
was
there,
I
think,
in
the
2010
cricket
area
plan,
it
remained
on
the
books
of
of
the
department
up
until
2014
and
has
been
put
on
the
back
burner.
E
Thank
you
chair
thanks
nikola
for
your
report
and
in
full
support
of
it,
but
I
suppose
one
of
the
issues
as
former
lord
america,
sir
kevin
savage,
has
said
there
about
a
visit.
We
had
done
to
some
of
the
logistics
firms
in
the
area.
Their
big
problem
still
exists.
Today
they
can't
get
enough
commercial
lawn
to
expand
one
company
there.
They
would
buy
30
lorries
in
the
morning
if
they
could
get
the
land.
That's
major
employment
within
the
area.
Nothing
moves
without
logistics.
E
Logistics
is
key
in
every
sector.
We
work
in
saudis,
but
whenever
I
look
down
here
and
see
that
there's
almost
300
hectares
of
land
in
the
possession
of
invest
ni,
that's
a
big
concern,
and
I
know
there
was
meant
to
be
we've
raised
us
before
in
this
committee,
about
this
land
and
about
getting
it
released
for
the
business
sector
within
the
area
and
there's
large
businesses
want
to
come
to
the
area.
They
can't
get
commercial
land.
E
J
Yeah
happy
to
second
that
proposal.
It's
unfortunate
it's
important
to
invest
in
our,
but
before
the
council
or
the
committee,
and
toward
very
straight
what
we
want
to
achieve
here.
There's
a
massive
land
bank
which
has
sat
here
for
20
years
plus
and
we've
met
with
them
before,
but
I
think
we
need
to
keep
pushing
against
the
door
and
if
we
don't
get
it
from,
invest
there
now,
then
we
take
it
to
minister.
C
Yeah
and
thank
you
chair
and
just
maybe
to
casterman
back
a
couple
of
months
ago,
and
we
we
raised
the
sushi
and
I
actually
proposed
that
we
invite
the
minister
down
along
with
invest.
Then
I
I
don't
know
it
was
agreed
on
the
night.
I
don't
know,
I
thought
everyone
died
to
the
minister,
or
did
we
get
a
reply
back
that.
K
P
P
Previously,
whenever
I
was
vice
chair
of
the
committee
with
councillor
hope,
we
actually
met,
invest
ni
on
this
issue
and
okay,
I
don't
know
if
alderman
spears
are
still
there,
but
this
is
an
issue
it's
back
to
zoning
of
lands
and
who
invest
ni
will
allow
as
their
clients
to
have
access
to
lands,
because
that
is
that
that
is
the
big
issue.
But
it's
a
it's
amazing.
P
We
did
have
an
economy
minister
from
the
the
council
area
whenever
we
asked
to
bring
herder
and
it
was
met
with
that
was
opposition
within
the
within
the
chamber
and
now
it's
a
different
setup
tonight.
So
look,
that's
suppose,
that's
the
way
it
goes,
but
look
I'm
more
than
happy
for
direct
officials
to
come
down
and
give
them
a
grilling.
But
it's
a
yeah
just
just
a
point
to
note.
H
B
O
B
B
H
Thank
you,
chair
very
brief.
Just
on
point
five:
seven
poor
down
town
standard
regeneration
update.
I
know
the
next
steps
are
outlined
there,
but
just
can
I
ask
maybe
nicola
or
helen
or
whoever's
on
just
to
tell
me
what,
where
we're
at
with
the
kind
of
tendering
process,
and
I
also
see
that
there's
there's
talk
there
about
lazing
with
traders
and
so
on.
Have
they
have
the
previous
market
traders
being
consulted
recently
in
relation
to
that
nicola,
helm.
O
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
Tara.
Thanks
for
the
inquiry.
Yes,
you
can
see.
We've
had
a
busy
summer
of
it
consulting
and
talking
to
traders
and
to
businesses
and
engaging
through
the
consultation
hub
in
relation
to
what
people
want
to
see
in
their
ties
around
the
market,
as
well
as
we've
had
a
good
time,
good
good
long
time
to
really
start
to
bottom
out.
Some
of
the
issues.
O
As
you
know,
we
went
out
before
the
summer
for
had
to
procure
a
market
operator
and
we
were
unsuccessful
in
that,
as
a
kind
of
so
officers
went
and
did
the
due
diligence
around
the
companies
that
had
looked
for
an
expression
of
interest,
but
hadn't
actually
put
an
application
in
and
work
with
them
to
try
and
figure
out,
maybe
what
we
were
doing
wrong
or
how
we
could
achieve
a
better
result
from
our
return.
So
we've
done
that.
We've
spoken
to
a
lot
of
the
traders.
O
We've
spoken
to
a
lot
of
the
traders
along
with
her
street
as
well
and
clarifying,
and
just
to
try
to
get
our
heads
around
what
we
really
want
to
have
so
we'll
be
in
a
position
this
week
to
go
out
with
a
tender
which
is
much
more
precise
and
detailed,
which
I
think
was
probably
one
of
the
strumming
blocks
in
our
first
attempt
to
go
out
to
get
a
market
proprietor
to
come
in.
So
we'll
be
going
out
this
week
with
that
in
relation
to
the
consultation
with
the
existing
market
traders.
O
We
haven't
done
that
because
you
know
we
didn't
think
that
was
an
appropriate
thing
to
do.
They're
looking
for
a
covered
market
space
and
that's
probably
not
something
we're
going
to
be
able
to
deliver
for
them.
So
we're
looking
for
an
appropriate
organization
to
come
in
and
to
provide
the
market
service
and
that
that
agent
will
be
the
one
that
will
be
liaising
with
the
market
traders
to
try
and
develop
what
they
need
within
the
offering
that
they
have.
H
E
E
I
just
you
know,
because
I'm
watching
that
carefully,
because
I
was
presenting
the
dust
as
a
saving
the
way
back,
so
I'm
watching
this
one
carefully
put
it
in
market
one
but
really
about
five
point:
eight
games,
circular
economy
or
not-
and
we
heard
in
the
they
started,
making
their
the
angry
one.
How
how
important
the
horticultural
industry
is
to
our
council
area.
So
I
suppose
council
can
lead
from
the
front
here
within
the
circular
economy
and
helping
local
businesses
know.
E
Instead
of
buying
flowers
out
of
scotland,
they
can
pay
them
locally
going
forward,
and
hopefully
our
procurement
team
will
find
a
way
around
that
minefield.
You
know
getting
back
to
the
27th
of
june
20
20.
I
think
it
was
whenever
the
north
emotional
fluid
council
have
heard
in
the
the
words
of
germany,
clarkson
they've
heard
deadly
squad
since
so.
Thank
you.
B
G
Yeah
thanks
churn
and
thanks
nichola,
and
I
just
read
there
in
the
in
relation
to
the
market
before
down,
go
back
to
the
state
just
quickly
and
you
you
seek
views
from
the
business
community
residents
in
wider
public
on
on
the
town
center
margaret
the
council
owned
land,
the
bottom
of
section
mcgahn
west
car
park.
What
was
the
general
sort
of
consensus
there
on
that?
Then
you
know
idea,
or
are
you
in
a
position
to
sort
of
give
us
a
bit
of
a
summary
and
then.
O
I
I
I
know
in
general
terms,
there
was
general
agreement,
but
I
would
need
to
go
back
to
the
to
the
survey
just
to
give
you
some
some
sound
bite,
perhaps
which
might
help
you
know.
You
know
clarify
some
of
the
issues
you
might
be
concerned
about,
but
there
was
general
agreement
and
a
general
acknowledgement
that
that
would
be
a
really
good
area
for
a
market.
O
Again
through
your
chair:
yes,
there
will
be
a
loss
of
some
car
parking
spaces,
and
that
was
why
it
was
so
important
to
go
out
and
do
the
consultation
with
some
of
the
businesses
around
there,
so
that
they
could
be
assured
that
well,
there
will
be
a
loss
of
some
car
parking
spaces.
It's
not
going
to
impact
negatively
on
their
business
and
that
we
would
be
protecting
those
spaces
closest
to
wood
high
street
and
to
closes
to
the
shopping
areas
as
well.
A
O
We
we
talk
too
little
and
some
of
the
larger
people
operators
around
there
have
made
significant
investment
in
the
infrastructure
and
have
opened
new
trading
premises
there
and
they
were
of
the
opinion.
They
would
be
absolutely
delighted
if
there
was
market
at
this
end
of
the
time
they
were
concerned
initially
that
maybe
some
of
the
spaces
that
would
be
closest
to
their
operation
might
be
compromised,
but
we've
worked
a
way
around
that
to
make
sure
that
those
spaces
are
protected.
G
B
I
I
But
I
understand
that
there's
a
change
within
the
department
and
I'm
just
I
want
to
see
clarity
from
either
olga
or
nikola
have
they
heard
anything
or
where
we
are
with
us.
I
know
that
we
were
lobbying
hard
and
I
say
we
council
and
I
lobbied
hard
with
others
through
party
sources
on
this
issue,
and
I
would
just
like
to
know:
is
there
a
new,
up-to-date
position?
So
this
is?
You
know
this
is
fundamentally
important.
O
Yes
chair,
I
I
certainly
take
that
one.
I
I
haven't
heard
anything
formally
from
the
department,
but,
as
always,
we
know,
I
suppose,
where
your
direction
is
and
where
you
would
like
the
towns
and
villages
and
and
the
city
centers
to
be
so
as
we're
going
around
and
engaging
with
our
times
and
having
walked
around
our
times.
O
We're
taking
a
note
of
all
the
things
that
if
we
did
have
substantial
funding,
what
would
we
like
to
see
and
what
would
you
like
to
see
and
so
we're
starting
to
build
up
that
that
database,
almost
and
and
that
that
good,
that
feeling
so
that
we
know
that
if
the
department-
and
hopefully
they
will
and
they
decide
that
they
want
to
move
into
funding
further
than
what
they
are
doing
at
the
moment?
But
we
will
have
the
bones
of
something
really
good
there
to
put
forward.
K
We
have
funded
under
the
the
rural
development
program
as
part
of
sewer,
so
members
will
note
in
the
papers
tonight
there's
correspondence
from
mark
o'donnell
who's,
a
grade
parade
in
the
department
for
communities
and
just
highlighting
that
the
department
will
continue
to
work
with
daera
in
relation
to
smaller
settlements
as
well.
So
that's
the
most
up-to-date
position
that
we
have.
G
And
it's
something
I've
asked,
but
I
would
just
want
to
ask
in
this
forum
is:
could
we
have
an
update
of
where
all
the
master
plans
are
of
the
smaller
towns
and
villages,
because
there
hasn't
been
any
sort
of
information
coming
through
in
that
and
I
suppose,
when
they
talk
about
funding,
be
an
available
chair,
you
need
to
be
shovel
ready
and
on
the
master
plans
as
part
of
that,
so
we
have
an
update,
we'll
be
useful.
Thank
you
good
point.
B
I
I
would
like
that
report
abroad
as
soon
as
possible
next
month,
if
possible,
because-
and
I
refer
to-
I
refer
to
this
endlessly
in
terms
of
of
work
that
needs
done
in
in
some
of
these
places-
and
I
mean
there
are
one
of
the
last
things
that
that
happened
in
our
mass
city
and
district
council
was
to
prepare
a
study
and
a
master
plan
for
market
hill.
It's
sitting
on
the
shelves
and
there's
nothing
has
happened,
and
there
is
work
that
is
needed
to
be
done.
I
There's
work,
glaring
work
that
has
to
be
done
in
that
in
that
town.
There
are
other
terms
that
are
rather
similar.
I
I
I
don't
speak
for
them,
but
I
do
speak
for
what
needs
done
in
market
hill,
and
I
I
I
must
say
I
I
can't
say
it
strongly
enough.
We
need
a
open
those
master
plans
and
begin
to
focus
on
how
we
can
move
things
forward.
There's
a
a
major
potential
development
in
market
hill
on
the
old
cattle
market,
the
old
police
station.
I
There
are
other
things
that
that
are
in
the
offing
that
we
need
to
be
in
a
position
to
to
pump
prime
work
with
the
community
work
with
the
business
community
to
drive
these
things
forward
and
to
drive
the
the
the
things
within
the
area,
and
I
can't
emphasize
that
strongly
enough
folks
and
I'm
saying
bring
that
report
the
next
month
and
let's
have
a
focus
on
it
and
see
what
we're
doing
and
what
we're
not
doing.
Thank
you,
sir.
B
T
Thank
you,
chair
and
good
evening.
Members
so
and
6.1
relates
to
two
letters
of
offer
received
of
funding
for
food
food,
insider
festival
in
the
georgian
festival.
So
the
recommendation
before
members
is,
it
is
recommended
that
members
accept
the
letters
of
offer
from
tourism,
northern
ireland
to
2021
food
and
cider
festival
and
the
georgian
christmas
event
in
normal.
Thank
you.
G
Yes,
chair
bran,
thanks
for
the
report,
and
I
think
we
all
know
how
important
the
georgian
festival
is
for
the
borough
and
our
massacre
and
obviously
the
food
insider
and
bran,
thanks
to
you
and
all
your
staff
for
what
these
have
made.
These
events
become,
and
it's
great
this
year
that
that
there's
something
going
to
happen,
so
I'm
happy
to
post
sure.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Sam.
J
B
E
Thank
you,
sir
bran.
Thank
you
for
your
report,
sir
detail,
though,
and
I
suppose
straight
away,
but
had
asked
us
a
good
while
ago
about
the
same
facebook
page
our
visit.
Our
ma
is
that
I
say
it's
still
going.
I
think
we
had
talked
about
this
before
where
you
were
going
to
look
at
that
and
look
at
the
setting
up
of
a
combined
facebook
page
for
abc
area,
arma
city
bomb
bridge
and
craig
ivan.
E
You
know,
I
know
you
slip
the
other
way,
but
all
of
it
county
down
against
other
day,
but
there
needs
to
be
more.
It
needs
to
be.
We
are
a
shared
council,
we're
told
we're
a
shard
council,
so
that's
it
you'll
share
it
out,
but
on
that
brand
I
want
to
take
the
the
chance
to
congratulate
you
and
all
the
team
for
the
good
efforts
you've
done
in
lurkin
park
at
the
centenary
celebrations,
and
perhaps
this
is
maybe
it
shows
what
can
be
done
and
it
shows
the
beauty
of
logan
park
in
the
area.
E
For
that-
and
I
know
everybody
is
at
that-
really
enjoyed
that,
but
I
suppose
there's
nobody
won
for
our
chief
executive.
Now
that
he's
moving
in
the
circles
of
the
ulster
orchestra-
and
perhaps
we
could
get
him
to
bring
a
report
back
here
to
see
if
he
can
bring
the
ulster
orchestra
to
lurgan
park
next
year
for
a
proms
night
or
whatever,
and
look
forward
to
seeing
that
I'm
sure
in
your
capabilities,
brian
you'll
be
able
to
deliver
that.
Thank
you.
E
T
Thank
you
and
councillor
savage
and
councillor
holland.
If
I
could
pick
up
councillor
savage's
points,
first
of
us
in
order
and
as
part
of
the
tourism
strategy
and
again
I
know
we
have
debated
many
times
the
visit
our
map
piece
was
sort
of
was
was
made
alive
and
I
know
it
together
many
times.
So
our
solution
to
that
has
been
a
number
of
different
things.
So,
if
and
councillor
savage
was
very
kind
with
the
centenary
event
and
again
it's
just
acknowledged
the
team
that
delivered
it.
T
We're
looking
at
and
we're
looking
at
social
channels
and
all
part
of
that
as
well,
but
that's
going
to
that's
going
to
evolve
and
I
think
the
plan
for
all
of
this
is
you
know,
I
know
through
nicholas
team,
there's
funding
been
secured
for
and
town
center
websites
and
there's
been
time
center
branding
developed.
So
all
there'll
be
a
natural
evolution
of
these
into
into
a
more
rounded
approach
for
the
for
the
time
centers,
but
again
recommendation
format.
T
We
can
look
at
that
and
but
you
know
there
are
short-term
solutions
that
we're
working
on
and
even
for
the
for
the
solitude
park
event
for
food
insider
the
weekend
that
was
was
through
visit
bomb
bridge
and
again
it's
it's
still,
not
perfect,
I
would
say,
but
on
the
corporate
side,
I
think
the
centenary
events
and
program
has
worked
very
well
as
well
and
have
that
social
media
piece
as
well
with
that.
Thank
you
and
do
you
want
me
to
cover
counselor
handling's
question?
My
chair.
B
T
It's
now
the
balls
firmly
in
my
reasoning,
court
in
terms
of
looking
at
those
and
coming
back
to
us,
and
we
have
kept
the
dialogue
open
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
momentum
with
that
because
and
then
so
I
think
when
they
respond.
My
suggestion
would
be
that
we
get
the
working
group
in
place
very
quickly
and
there's
a
real
debate,
and
then
members,
like
your
knowledge
of
those
rma
sites,
will
be
really
invaluable
in
terms
of
making
sure
we
end
up
in
the
right
location.
T
P
It
is
imperative
that
we
do
everything
and
we
can
to
ensure
that
both
the
library
and
the
city,
library
and
the
irish
local
study
library
is
secured,
and
in
our
mark
and
I'm
more
than
happy
for
that
to
be
all
in
one
site
and
more
than
happy
to
work
with
libraries,
and
I
own
it.
I
just
technically,
he
said
about
establishing
a
a
working
group.
I
think
there
already
is
one
there
in
its
in
this
place.
P
I
became
a
maybe
even
if
it
was
a
way
of
flushing
or
supporting
a
library's
na
out
to
say
look
guys.
The
group
are
keen
to
meet
again
there's
any
chance.
We
can
have
a
another
and,
if
it's
via
zoom
or
whatever,
to
have
that
discussion
to
try
and
move
things
on
but
keem
for
that
to
happen.
But
look
thanks
for
your
work
on
the
brand.
Thank
you.
G
Yeah
sure
thank
you
and
I
suppose
in
in
the
similar
veins
as
country
old
hanlon
is
so
important,
especially
when
we're
going
for
the
city
of
culture.
I
think
this
could
be
a
very
much
part
of
that
bid
of
what
the
futures
of
the
irma
library
could
be,
and
I
think
you
know
brand
you
and
I
have
chatted
with
this.
You
know
that
there
needs
to
be
something.
G
If
you
look
at
our
city
of
culture
bids,
you
know,
things
like
that
are
are
are
what
sort
of
grounds
them
you
know
and
and
have
some
sort
of
vision
for
the
city
and
beyond
and
is
is
so
important,
and
this
is
where
I
think
this
committee
and-
and
this
council
needs
to
be-
you
know
all
shoulders
to
the
wheel.
If
we're
going
to
be
successful,
because
this
this
city
of
culture
bill
there's,
no
doubt
it
is-
is
a
real
game-
changer
not
just
for
the
city
but
but
but
way
beyond,
but
look
brian.
B
U
J
I
just
wanted
to
say
you
know
I
I
would
welcome
the
work,
that's
to
be
done
there,
but
unless
it's
happened
recently
the
mcwilliams
gallery
in
quails
at
the
junction
of
day
one
has
become
totally
obscured.
Now.
Is
there
anything
that
could
have
been
done
there?
You
know
to
clear
the
undergrowth
away
again
and
make
it
because
it
was
a
very
visual
point
at
the
a1
junction.
So
I
just
wanted-
and
I
wanted
also
to
concur
with
what
country
savage
said
in
relation
to
the
event
and
lurking
the
other
saturday
night.
J
T
Yes,
thank
you
jaron.
I
should,
I
should
say,
probably
the
point
of
the
famous
william
gallery
probably
does
come
up
every
year
and
then
we
need
to
sit
down
with
the
maintenance
team
and
look
at
how
we
we,
because
you
know
we
sell
we
solve
it.
Obviously,
and
then
you
know
the
issue
obviously
occurs
every
year
with
growth,
so
yeah,
we
will
happily
have
a
look
at
that
and
a
number
of
members
of
resolution
also
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Alderman
mitchell.
S
Thank
you
chair,
I'm
sorry
for
I
disappeared
there
for
a
while
the
electric
went
off,
so
I'm
using
a
mobile
phone.
I
just
want
to
thank
brian
and
his
team
for
all
the
work
they
have
put
into
the
the
bambridge
tourism
policy
that
they're
they're
working
on
at
the
moment.
A
lot
of
hard
work
has
gone
in,
and
it's
good
now
that
they've
got
the
game
of
thrones
people
on
board,
and
just
just
I
wanted
to
thank
them
for
all
the
work
they've
done.
Thank
you.
B
Well,
ian,
thank
you,
brian
okay,
okay
members
could
have
a
proposal
and
second,
when
the
committee
please
for
conversation
with
us,
so
propose
alderman,
anderson
and
second
yeah
counselor
pope,
please
thank
you.
Okay
members
and
online
viewers.
In
accordance
with
schedule,
six
of
the
local
government
act.
We
will
now
be
moving
into
a
confidential
session
of
the
council.
This
means
that
they
will
be
turning
off
the
public
feed
of
the
meeting.
This
will
be.
This
will
be
returned
when
the
meeting
is
restarted.
A
B
Chair,
thank
you,
danny.
Okay
members.
The
next
item
item.
It
is
correspondence
with
two
letters:
does
anyone
any
questions
or
if
not
we'll,
move
on
to
the
last
aovs,
don't
see
any
hands
up
so
members?
The
last
item
is
a
item
name
aob
and
I've
just
received
one
one
notice
from
councillor
kevin
savage
kevin.
M
Thank
you,
chair
and
I'll,
be
as
quick
as
I
can
here.
Members
today,
we've
had
the
economy
minister
announced
that
the
high
street
voucher
scheme
is
going
to
go,
live
on
the
27th
of
this
month
and
there's
a
group
of
people
that
have
been
excluded,
16
and
17
year
olds
are
so
far
not
allowed
into
this
game.
M
They
don't
go
into
the
town
center
and
I
think,
if
they're
included
in
this
game,
it
will
have
a
big
impact
that
we're
trying
to
change
people's
ways
of
shopping,
and
we
can
get
that
generation
of
paper
back
in
their
town
centers.
It
would
be
great,
so
I
I
would
propose,
raise
the
economy
department
and
ask
them
to
reconsider
not
allowing
16
and
17
year
olds
into
this
scheme.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
I
I
think
no,
I
I
couldn't
get
my
hand
up
there
in
time
for
the
the
item
of
correspondence,
but
I
have
read
the
letter.
I'd
read
it
earlier
on
this
afternoon
in
relation
to
a
from
the
department
of
communities.
Now
I
certainly
been
aware
of
that.
But
when
I
read
the
letter
I
say
that
there
is
an
opportunity,
through
representation
from
nilga
on
representation
from
solos.
I
Now
this
is
important
to
our
small
rural
towns
stage
three
towns.
This
is
fundamentally
important
that
we
get
a
result
here,
a
result
that
ends
up
that
we
can
get
money
for
regeneration
within
those
places
now
in
the
past,
and
it
makes
reference
to
it
here
that
a
soar
through
rural
development
now
anyone
that
knows
the
history
of
that
knows
that
it
was
relatively
small
pockets
of
money
for
to
do
relatively
small
regeneration
works
within
small
settlements.
I
Now
that
is
not
a
the
type
of
money
that
is
needed
to
do
some
of
the
bigger
settlements.
Sure,
if
you
want
to
go
into
say,
market
hill
or
refrain
or
guilford,
or
some
of
those
places,
you're
speaking
about
a
much
bigger
public
realm
scheme,
and
I
get
the
feeling
that
the
money
could
be
transferred
or
the
idea
could
be
that
money
for
such
would
be
coming
from
rural
development.
I
I
But
I
I
I
believe
we
have
an
opportunity
and
it's
one
that
we
can't
miss
and
I
think
that
our
officers
and
I
would
welcome
feedback
from
olga
on
nicola
as
to
how
we
would
feed
into
this,
because
I
think
it's
it's
fundamental
to
doing
something
in
the
places
that
are
dear
to
all
our
hearts
throughout
this
community.
Thank
you,
chair.
I
Well,
I
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
we
follow
this
up
and
I'm
I'm
not
I'm
not
criticizing
anybody
I
mean
I
know
olga
has
has
been
in
correspondence
on
the
it's
actually.
I
believe
that
this
initiative
is
as
a
result
primarily
of
our
our
lobbying
and
that
I
welcome,
but
I
say
we
have
opened
the
door
now
we
have
an
opportunity
to
try
and
make
sure
we
get
a
result.
I
That
is
beneficial
and
in
that
context
I
believe
that
officers
should
feed
in
through
solas
through
nilga
to
make
sure
we
have
on
through
the
partnership
panel
to,
and
we
have
members
of
each
council
councillor
greenfield,
I
think,
is
the
member
of
the
partnership
found
from
this
council
and
it's
through
that
mechanism.
I
believe
we
have
an
opportunity
to
get
a
result
here,
that's
in
our
in
our
wider
interest.
Thank
you,
sir.
K
Certainly
yes,
chair
and
certainly
alderman
spears.
Members
have
indicated
the
importance
of
our
smaller
settlements
and
our
tier
two
and
our
tier
three
times.
So
you
know
through
the
nilga
and
other
networks,
it's
important
to
racist,
but
certainly
we
can
raise
it
through
departmental
channels
again.
B
N
U
Thank
you
sure.
It's
just
a
second
councillor,
savage's
proposal.
I
think,
there's
a
real
injustice
done
here
to
16
and
17
years.
They
make
a
massive
contribution
economically
and
I
think
it's
only
further.
The
scheme
should
be
extended
to
include
them.
In
fact,
the
summers
came
in
jersey
and
each
man,
woman
and
child
in
jersey
got
a
hundred
pound
voucher
for
for
the
high
street,
so
I
would
certainly
expo
I
think
at
this
extension
would
certainly
improve
the
scheme
and
hobby.
The
second
of
the
proposal.
P
So
I
think
it
would
be
useful
that
if
we
copied
the
first
and
deputy
first
minister
into
our
correspondence
and
then
the
element
then
is
then
brought
to
the
whole
executive
for
consideration
or
whatever.
But
I
absolutely
agree
with
the
sentiments
that
there
is
an
injustice
that
young
people
there
are
been
left
out
and
look
if
they're
good
enough.
If
they're
old
enough
to
pay
tax
and
old
enough
to
earn
well,
then
they
should
be
old
enough
to
benefit
from
it.
B
G
If
it
comes
off
and
then
I
do
like
others
agree
with
the
sentiments
it,
it
does
seem
unfair
that
16
and
17
year
olds
have
been
left
out,
and
I
did
hear
a
question
tonight
actually
on
the
news
of
the
minister
and-
and
I
do
think
it
is
very
much
a
financial
decision
that
you
know
and
to
open
the
at
two
though
to
the
the
16th
century
would
would
make
it
a
lot
more
expansive
to
the
executive.
But
look
I'm
happy
to
go
with.
G
Go
the
flow
in
this
one
and
and
see
what
what's
said,
but
I
think
yourself
sure
we
don't
want
anything.
That's
going
to
slow
this
down,
it's
been
delayed
and
delayed
and
delayed,
and
now
it
looks
like
there's
a
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel.
I
think
we
just
gotta,
you
know
let
it
let
this
out,
because
I
think-
and
these
businesses
could
do
with
this
on
the
run
up
to
christmas.
There's
no
doubt
about
it.
So
I
look
forward
to
getting
mine.
I'm
sure
you
do
chair
as
well,
so
thanks.
B
C
Sure
yeah
no
no
major
issue
with
this,
but
I
suppose,
we'll
have
to
say
the
executive
considered
this
problem
as
an
executive
agreed.
The
thing
already
know
what
way
it
would
work
with
the
bureaucracy
and
the
finances
has
been
previously
alluded
to,
but
I
would
just
say:
maybe:
okay
to
your
counselor
savage,
you
know:
can
we
just
read
to
the
whole
executive
then,
because
it'll
be
an
executive
decision,
it'll
have
to
go
to
the
executive
on
that.