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Armagh City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council Environmental Services Committee on Tuesday the 4th of October 2022 at 6.30pm in the Council Chamber at Craigavon Civic and Conference Centre and online using Zoom.
A
A
B
Good
to
go.
Thank
you
item
number
one:
apologies
of
the
only
polities
from
the
floor.
No
okay,
move
on
agenda
item
number
two,
each
activation
of
Interest.
If
there's
any
interest
from
the
floor
or
our
members
happy
to
take
care
of
them
as
a
meeting
progresses
good
to
go,
get
Adam
number
three
environmental
health
report
and
I'll
head
over
to
Jillian.
With
this.
C
Thank
you
chair
evening,
members.
Colleagues,
members.
Take
you
to
item
3.1,
an
item
for
a
decision.
This
report
has
a
recommendation
that
the
council
rights
to
the
Northern
Ireland
assembly
Minister
for
health,
seeking
a
review
of
the
regulatory
framework
for
cosmetic
treatments
in
Northern
Ireland,
and
there
is
a
draft
of
Correspondence
attached
to
the
appendix
remember
as
you'll
see
some
background
there,
the
council
doors
of
responsibility
for
a
limited
number
of
these
types
of
what
you
might
say
more
traditional
treatments.
C
However,
non-surgical
cosmetic
treatments
have
increased
significantly
it's
one
of
the
big
growth
areas
in
the
UK
and
also
increased
significantly
in
the
age
range
of
people
who
are
attracted
to
this.
But
like
many
things,
legislation
and
guidance
has
not
kept
up
to
date
with
what
is
going
on
and
right
across
England
Wales
Scotland
Northern
Ireland.
C
There
has
been
some
commentary
on
the
need
for
an
upgraded
and
an
updated
regime
and
in
particular,
the
UK
government
have
confirmed
its
intention
to
introduce
a
regime
in
England
and
we
feel
in
Northern
Ireland
that
the
legislation
dealing
with
this
should
also
be
reviewed,
and
this
is
being
brought
forward
on
a
Northern
Ireland
wide
basis
by
environmental
health
colleagues
across
across
all
of
our
councils,
and
so
members
I
would
Place
recommendation
before
you
and
the
draft
correspondence.
Thank
you.
Members.
D
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
Jillian
for
the
report.
Yeah.
It
was
interested
in
reading
on
when
I
first
came
across
a
reporter
contacted
a
number
of
people
who
worked
kind
of
in
that
field,
and,
to
be
honest,
they
all
agreed
that
this
was
something
and
that
needed
to
happen
and
needed
to
happen
as
soon
as
possible.
So
I
think
that
you
know
the
overall
response
was
very
much
welcome
and
you
know
a
bit
of
pressure
from
the
councils
to
the
minister
to
try
and
bring
things
up
to
date.
D
There's
no
doubt
that
you
know
a
lot
of
people
who
work
in
this
industry.
Do
you
have
a
medical
background,
but
unfortunately
the
legislation,
as
was
pointed
out
in
the
report,
and
allows
for
people
to
kind
of
operate
in
a
gray
area
and
also
when
you
see
things
like
under
your
teens,
being
able
to
access
lip
fillers
and
Botox,
and
things
like
that,
there's
there's
no
doubt
and
Jillian
you
had
the
knee
on
the
head.
D
B
A
C
Thank
you
chair
members
item
3.2
is
a
draft
response
provided
out
appendix
in
relation
to
the
health
and
safety
executive
consultation
on
their
proposed
corporate
plan
for
the
next
five
years
members.
You
will
know
that
also
local
councils
have
a
role
in
regulation
of
health
and
safety
enforcement.
Alongside
the
health
and
safety
executive.
We
regulate
in
somewhat
different
sectors,
and
it's
differentiated
by
the
main
activity
carried
out
at
that
at
that
particular
premises,
and
you
will
see
there
where
the
council
is
the
mean
enforcing
Authority.
C
There
has
been
a
long
history
of
working
in
partnership
with
the
health
and
safety
executive
and
I
would
say
that
that
probably
hasn't
been
as
much
to
the
fore
in
the
past
several
years.
So
members
we
have
taken
this
opportunity
in
our
response
to
the
hses
corporate
plan
to
really
put
forward
that
as
an
organization
as
a
council,
we
would
wish
to
work
in
Partnership
on
many
of
the
areas
which
they
have
proposed
and
I
get
the
example
of
workplace
transport,
which
is
a
very
high
risk
area.
C
The
health
and
safety
executive
have
identified
that
as
long
as
their
care
other
key
areas
and
certainly
councils.
We
would
support
that
and
there
is
much
benefit
from
working
together
on
an
initiative
right
across
Northern
Ireland.
On
an
example
such
as
that,
so
members
I
would
commend
the
recommendation
as
set
over
the
appendix
to
you,
which
really
is
very
much
in
support
of
their
activities
and
their
plans
and
really
reinforcing
that
when
we
work
in
Partnership
and
a
collective
effort,
our
comes
across
Northern
Ireland
should
be
better.
Thank
you.
D
Yeah
thanks
chair
and
yeah
happy
the
second
there's,
let's
I,
know
I
know,
there's
sort
of
you're
looking
down
that
list,
trying
to
find
something
that
you
would
actually
say
you
could
focus
on,
but
there's
literally
nothing
you
could
take
out
of
that
they're
all
just
as
important
as
the
next
one.
So
you
know
good
work
and
I'm
happy
to
second.
E
Yes,
Jerry,
it
was
just
who
basically
to
basically
sort
of
come
in
to
Second
it,
but
that's
what
I've
been
done,
but
just
in
terms
of
a
comment
you
know
certainly
coming
from
an
industry
that,
in
terms
of
the
eye
exacter,
that
has
been
one
of
the
more
dangerous
it's.
It's
certainly
very
much
to
be
welcomed.
Thanks
chair.
B
F
The
detail
of
what
questions
were
asked
and
the
answers
part
of
them
are
sat
out
in
front
of
you
happy
to
go
into
having
any
detail
of
members
wish,
but
I
suppose
the
long
and
short
of
it
is
there
does
seem
to
be
a
desire
in
our
communities
that
there
would
be
some
sort
of
involvement
by
councils
in
allotments
and
the
detail
of
that
as
I
say
as
in
Missouri.
What
we're
really
asking
this
evening,
members
is:
are
yourselves
content
that
we
would
go
away?
F
Do
some
more
work
around
this,
because
obviously
the
provision
of
allotments
there's
lots
of
different
options?
There's
lots
of
different
costs.
Funding
would
have
to
be
looked
at
et
cetera
Etc.
So
what
we're
really
saying
members
is:
are
you
content
that
we
go
away?
Do
your
Nightline
business
case
identify
the
best
options
going
forward,
perhaps
locations
the
cost,
the
ramifications,
the
applications
and
then
bring
a
further
report
back
to
members
before
a
decision
could
be
made.
I'll
be
the
tag
on
the
equations
chair.
B
A
Foreign,
thank
you
very
much.
Barry
we've
been
I've
spoken
about
this
before,
as
you
know,
and
I've
spoken
to
you
about
this
number
of
officers
about
this,
it's
very
interesting
actually
to
see
the
results
and,
as
you
say,
such
a
good
response,
but
some
of
us
who
are
nerdy
gardeners
or
sales
there
I
say
it
I'm
involved
with
some
of
these
groups
that
do
this
would
have
probably
guessed
that
this
would
have
had
a
big
uptake,
and
it's
been
quite
good
to
see
now
I
see
there
are
the
recommendations.
A
A
Would
we
be
aiming
for
this?
As
a
dare
I
say,
a
free
free
service?
You
look
after
it
yourself
or
as
in
most
cases
there
would
be
a
ground
charge
in
the
vast
majority
cases
there
are.
Where
would
we
be
setting
that
was
that,
where
we're
going
to
have
to
start
looking
at
otherwise
sure
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
propose
that
we
do
take
a
bit
more
of
a
look
at
this.
This
is
a
big
growing
Community.
A
The
gardening
gardening
and
allotment
Community
is
a
huge
it's
a
huge
pool
for
people
now,
particularly
coming
out
of
the
pandemic.
It
really
did.
There
was
real
explosion
in
this
and
people's
own
households.
You
know
and
wanting
to
expand
out
I
can
see
why
this
would
be
so
I'm
more
than
happy
to
propose
this,
but
I
think
that
that's
going
to
be
the
the
key
bit
here,
never
mind
where
but
I
don't
know
what
I
would
like,
but
I
think.
G
If
we
do
some
more
work
on
that
I
mean,
would
we
consider
doing
a
pilot
scheme
or
something
that
would
maybe
you
know
dip
our
foot
in
the
water
without
committing
to
something
very
big?
And
how
soon
could
we
get
something
that
up
and
roll
on
Council
has
plenty
of
land
about
so
I
hope
that
we'll
be
coming
back
with
a
further
report
very
soon
and
be
able
to
accept
the
request
for
some
people
in
some
area
of
the
borough
and
then,
if
that's
successful
and
not
problematic,
to
rule
it
out
further.
H
It
certainly
shows
that
there
is
a
very
high
demand
in
in
the
Banbridge
area
and
other
areas
too
I
know,
and
we
know
the
benefits
of
allotments
for
mental
and
physical
health
and
also
the
opportunity
at
this
time.
You
know
to
to
grow
your
own.
You
know
fruit
and
vegetables,
so
very
supportive
of
this,
and
thank
you
for
the
work.
I
Thank
you,
chair
and,
and
listen
it's
just
simply
to
add
my
support
as
well,
and
thank
Barry
for
bringing
bringing
this
forward
I
know
of
at
least
one
allotment
project.
That's
really
successful
outside
and
he's
the
number
of
the
folks
that
are
out
there
working
those
allotments
so
yeah
someone,
some
of
the
other
speakers,
has
alluded
to.
I
G
Thank
you
chair.
Just
before
we
move
on
to
confidential
business,
can
I
ask
a
question
around
5.2
the
side
west
collection
overview.
Can
one
of
the
officers
explain
to
me
why
that
needs
to
protect
and
confidential
business
I've
gone
through
the
report
and
I?
Don't
see
it
as
specific
to
any
person
and
the
council,
so
I
could
just
have
some
guidance
and
relation
to
that.
Please.
F
Thank
you
chair
in
relation
to
words
and
confidential
business,
because
there's
there's
costs
associated
with
that
and
there's
only
a
limited
number
of
companies
who
maybe
involved
in
that
process.
That's
why
we
put
it
in
This
Confidential
business,
so
it
doesn't
affect
any
quote
sure
anything
else
that
we
may
get.
If
was
going
down
a
particular
path.
B
Thank
you
all
right:
okay
and
I
move
on
then
members
and
online
viewers,
in
accordance
with
the
schedule
of
section
of
the
Local
Government
Act,
even
though
I've
been
moving
into
confidential
sessions
of
the
council.
This
means
that
we'll
be
turning
off
the
public
feed
of
the
meeting.
This
will
be
returned
and
the
meeting
as
we
started
can
I
ask
ICT
officer.
Please
turn
off
the
feed
and
confirm
with
me
when
the
confidential
section
of
this
meeting
can
proceed.
F
F
It
went
to
obviously
voluntary
groups
and
and
organizations
as
well.
So
it
lays
out
the
plans
and
the
change
in
relation
to
Korean
regimes
that
the
department
will
be
having
next
year
and
Lane.
They
have
indicated
that's
to
do
with
climate
act
on
habitats
Etc,
so
this
is
about
not
cutting
as
frequently
cutting
at
a
different
time
of
the
year,
which
would
be
in
the
Autumn
time
and
again
that
that
would
then
help
with
seating
Etc,
so
really
just
wanted
to
put
it
before
yourselves.
F
In
case
you
haven't
seen
it
guideline
that
this
will
be
happening
from
the
DFI
perspective.
We
have
no
plans
to
do
anything
different
and
relation
to
what
we
are
doing,
with
the
exception
of.
Obviously,
the
latter
grew
area
is
that
members
had
agreed
to
have,
and
we
continue
to
look
at
more
areas
for
that.
It
was
really
just
to
bring
it
to
your
attention.
Members
I
would
have
listened
to
any
thoughts
or
comments,
but
just
there
as
a
correspondent.
Thank
you,
chair.
E
Yes
sure
thank
you
for
bringing
me
in
on
this
and
yeah.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
create
the
habitats
and
the
wildflowers,
and
so
on
and
and
Hansen
are
proud
diversity.
It'll
not
come
come
as
a
surprise
to
any
member
that
I'm
the
first
n
here
in
terms
of
being
supportive
of
this,
so
I
I,
you
know
I
think
it
is
good
I
think
it
is
a
good
news
story.
E
I
suppose
the
the
one
mother
concern
I
would
have
would
be
that
I
that
I
hope
that
road
safety
sight
lines
and
so
on
so
forth
won't
be
compromised,
because
I
think
that
that's
something
that
we
would
do
out
of
apparel
but
I
think
apart
from
that
sure,
it
certainly
has
to
be
welcomed
in
terms
of
the
bio
diversity
piece.
Thank
you
thank.
F
F
It
does
mention,
however,
that
the
sight
lines
and
those
safety
concerns
will
be
paranoid,
so
I
I
would
be
confident
that
isn't
a
change
how
the
rest
of
it
fits
on
the
ground,
I
suppose
we'll
have
to
wait
and
see
what
the
impact
of
that
is.
But
you
know
why
I
would
imagine-
and
it
says
and
and
not
letter,
that
there
will
be
no
change
in
the
lesson
that
set
that
safety
element.