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Armagh City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council Environmental Services Committee on Tuesday the 7th of September 2021 at 6.30pm
C
C
B
D
D
B
F
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
and
good
evening.
Members
deira
is
the
competent
authority
for
eu
regulation
requirements
for
marketing
and
identification
of
agricultural
or
food
products,
and
the
executive
enforcement
of
these
powers
is
relation
to
those
that
are
undertaken
by
dara
of
officers
and
environmental
health
officers
and
councils.
B
E
B
A
D
B
F
F
D
Just
remember,
I
would
like
to
drill
into
that
a
bit
further
and
maybe
just
do
a
bit
more
work
around
it
myself
and
speak
to
party
colleagues
on
it.
So
maybe
even
if
we
get
deferred
even
to
the
next
meeting,
I
would
like
to
bring
that
further.
I'm
just
not
clear
and
exactly
what
I've
seen.
There's
no
understanding
there,
but
there's
just
not
three
year.
F
F
B
E
H
Thank
you,
chair
members.
This
is
a
piece
of
legislation
gets
back
to
the
1980s
for
the
approval
of
any
large
chimneys
that
are
going
to
be
erected
within
the
borough.
Very
few
of
these
applications
actually
come
forward
to
us,
and
this
one
did
it's
for
a
combined
heat
and
power
plant
and
seagull
industrial
estate
associated
with
the
muay
park
facility
and
is
to
sort
of
help
that
facility.
Obviously,
in
terms
of
its
economic
development
and
sustainability,
it's
a
gas
fired
plant
which
means
that
it
produces
relatively
little
pollution.
H
G
E
H
To
our
councilors,
no
no
relationship
at
all
between
the
two
things.
The
legislation
was
written
entirely
separately.
It's
just
a
separate
process
that
requires
approval.
Now,
obviously,
the
environmental
health
department
are
engaged
in
the
planning
process
as
well,
so
we'll
always
make
sure
the
two
things
weave
together
and
there's
no
conflict
there
through
our
role.
I
J
The
only
question
I
would
like
to
ask
is
as
regards
the
head
of
the
chimney:
it
does
look
the
consideration
data,
particularly
as
requires
the
manufacture
of
the
boiler,
and
that
did
have
to
stop
it
yet
the
the
chimney
sized
in
relation
to
the
boiler
output.
I
know
that
paul
had
mentioned
there
that
a
planning-wise,
it's
okay,
but
one
of
the
most
important
things
any
hidden
settlement
boilers
are
the
flus
coming
out
for
them
and
plants,
and
they
have
to
be
at
a
certain
height
to
take
the
the
gas
and
the
fumes
away.
J
B
A
H
Chair
members,
members
may
well
recall
this
was
something
that
jillian
and
the
team
had
had
worked
on
as
a
result
of
members
requests
for
more
enforcement
activity
and
more
visible
enforcement
within
our
borders
to
tackle
littering
on
dog
filing
incidents.
We've
started
a
pilot
arrangement
with
a
company
called
waze.
You
may
recall,
and
that
has
led
to
quite
a
bit
of
patrolling
in
the
borough,
quite
a
lot
of
detection
of
offences.
It's
exactly
the
sort
of
thing
that
we
we
expected
to
happen.
H
Certainly,
the
the
initial
feedback
back
to
us
is
yes,
look,
there's
a
lot
of
enforcement
activity
here,
we're
dealing
with
a
lot
of
inquiries
and
requests
for
clarification
from
members
of
the
public,
but
we're
aiming
to
do
that
and
be
open
and
professional.
In
relation
to
that,
I'd
like
to
think
we've
done
so
we're
also
getting
sort
of
anecdotal
feedback
to
us
to
suggest
that
there
appears
to
be
less
lettering
occurring
and
that
there
is
a
net
result
within
the
borough.
H
D
A
D
You
know
the
rare
villages
and
that
sort
of
thing
where
we
thought
it
is
that
something
that's
why
isis
is
going
to
do.
Are
we
going
to
work
with
them
on
that
and
also
in
terms
of
drug
filing,
probably
which
is
a
bigger
issue,
and
obviously
it's
a
lot
harder
for
them
and
to
catch
people
for
him,
so
they're,
maybe
not
going
to
target
that
the
same,
because
the
same
revenues
wouldn't
come
back.
You
know
they
are
business
after
all.
So
how
are
we
going
to
deal
with
that
issue?
D
H
Yeah,
chair
counselor
a
lot
of
stuff
in
there
you're
exactly
right.
That's
none
of
this
is
unexpected
for
us
in
terms
of
what
we're
finding
the
vast
majority
of
it
is
cigarette
letter.
The
vast
majority
of
it
is
in
areas
where
there
are
higher
levels
of
activity
and
footfall
and
offenses
are
being
detected.
H
The
way
we
had
set
up
the
agreement
with
ways
was
that
all
district
electoral
areas,
all
our
towns,
villages
and
parks
all
would
be
visited
on
patrol.
But
you
are
right,
of
course,
that
there
has
to
be
some
level
of
sort
of
targeting
there
on
sort
of
an
assessment
of
the
the
likelihood
of
catching
offences.
H
Now
again,
look
we're
only
a
few
weeks
into
a
pilot
as
such.
Here.
The
feedback
that's
coming
back
to
me
is
that
whenever
the
officers
are
in
those
smaller
towns
and
villages
that
there
is
very
little
activity,
there
is
very
little
to
detect
and,
as
I
say,
yeah
look,
that's
a
challenge
for
us.
We
will
look
for
that.
Going
forward
and
ways
have
committed,
as
I
say,
to
look
to
all
industrial
district
electoral
areas.
They
have
also
committed
to
be
responsive
to
any
intelligence
that
we
do
provide
through
them.
H
We
provide
a
briefing
a
weekly
briefing
every
friday
in
terms
of
intelligence
to
them
that
relates
to
their
matters
that
are
coming
in
from
members
of
the
public
or
from
councillors
just
to
sort
of
allow
them
to
sort
of
target
their
inspections
to
areas
where
we
think
problems
may
well
be,
and
they
have
committed
to
respond
to
those
and
say
we're
we're
quite
happy
with
that
at
the
middle
look,
we
look
at
the
raw
stats
today,
we
have
a
look
and
see
what
is
going
on.
It
is
majority
cigarette
litter.
H
I
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair
for
letting
me
in
well.
Thank
you
paul,
I'm
councillor
baxter.
Thank
you
for
that.
You've
actually
sort
of
mentioned
some
of
the
things
I
was
going
to
mention,
because
I
think
that's
where
I
I'm
feeling
a
wee
bit
of
a
like.
Obviously
I'm
poor
down
d.a
I've
got
quite
a
few
complete.
I
I
don't
know
if
complaints
is
quite
the
right
word,
but
comments
and
complaints
about
the
activity
of
them
and
poor
dynamite
and
fairness
to
you
paul
and
the
other
officers
any
complaint
that
I've
had
or
any
query
I've
had
about.
It
have
been
very
swiftly
dealt
with
and
quickly
answered,
but
the
general
feeling
seems
to
be
you,
so
you
can
catch.
You
can
catch
more
bees
with
the
honey
than
the
vinegar
here.
You
know
we're
they're
fishing
in
a
very.
I
I
don't
know
more
of
an
education.
I
don't
know
how
to
put
it
but
more
of
the
education
that
we're
here.
This
is
what
we're
looking
for,
rather
than
we're
just
here
to
to
watch
you
and
find
you.
If
you
understand
mr
mccullough,
what
I'm
saying
I've
had
a
number
of
complaints
about
their
uniform
and
the
way
they're
operating
away,
but
maybe
it's
just
teething
problems,
I'm
quite
happy
to
take
on
board
we're
only
a
number
of
weeks
in
a
couple
of
months
in
we're
getting
there.
I
I
We
need
to
do
some
kinds
of
these
guys
are
here
and
what
they
do,
what
they
are
here
for,
because
I,
what
I
don't
want
at
all,
is
that
there's
this
perception
that
they're
the
bad
guys
here,
because
you
know
I
know
I've-
maybe
nicknamed
them
device
guys
a
wee
bit
but
they're
there
to
do
a
good
job
and
we're.
I
am
glad
they're
there,
because
we
could
not
continue
the
way
we
were.
But
three
months
on.
I
think
it's
good
to
have
a
wee,
stop
and
look
at
this.
I
K
Thank
you,
sir
yeah.
I
would
respectfully
disagree
with
the
sentiments
of
what
councilor
flaherty
had
sort
of
said
there.
I
kind
of
seen
this
very
much
in
the
in
the
vienna
of
good
cop,
bad
cop,
and
these
guys
were
pretty
much
bad
cop.
Their
job.
Isn't
I
sort
of
seen
our
council
more
to
work
around
the
education
element
of
it
and
they
these
these
were
kind
of
brought
in
as
as
the
people
to
kind
of
enforce,
because
that's
what
we
were
missing
was
the
enforcement
aspect
of
it.
K
I
have
had
a
number
of
complaints
in
fairness,
but
like
yourself,
judy-
and
I
have
probably
been
a
bit
across
with
people
and
some
of
them
that
are
new
personally
and
on
the
say,
you
know
they
give
me
a
bit
of
a
bit
of
a
sob
story
around
where
they
got
the
fan,
and
I
simply
asked
the
question:
did
you
throw
that
on
the
ground
yeah
it
did?
Well,
then
he
says
the
end
of
conversation.
K
That's
that's
what
they're
there
for
this
is
the
way
it's
going
so
probably
probably
lost
a
few
votes,
I'm
sure
somewhere
in
amongst
all
that.
But
I
don't
care,
that's
why
they
were
brought
in.
My
question,
I
suppose,
was
around
an
element
of
this
report,
and
I
I
know
it's
just
for
nothing,
but
it
was.
It
was
around
us.
Environmental
wardens
and
the
health
department
now
focus
resource
on
problem
localities
such
as
back
ollies,
which
include
searches
on
material
to
identify
offenders.
K
I
suppose
my
question
would
be:
do
you
now
fail,
or
are
we
as
counselors
likely
to
notice
an
upsurge
and
positive
results
around
this
sort
of
problem?
Because
I
have
had
serious
issues,
and
I
know
cancer
magoon
is
the
same.
Some
of
our
large
encounters,
maybe
concert
oman,
would
agree
that
the
likes
of
victoria
street
shangle,
the
certain
areas
are
that
we've
had
great
difficulty,
actually
getting
any
kind
of
enforcement
around.
So
with
these
guys
being
in
from
ways
are
we
likely
to
see
across
the
borough?
K
Maybe
an
increase
in
success
stories
against
the
you
know,
the
landlords,
the
tenants
who
are
they're
dumping-
wake
after
awake,
because
that
that's
been
a
massive
source
of
frustration
for
myself
and
for
other
you
know
for
constituents
and
for
other
cancers.
You
know
from
talking
to
them
so
that
that
would
be
me
basin
thanks
paul.
H
Yes,
in
short,
the
the
answer
is
yes,
that's.
What
we're
aiming
for
as
well
is
to
see
some
marked
improvement
there.
These
officers
are
allowing
our
existing
staff
complement,
concentrate
their
efforts
a
little
bit
more
than
what
you
know,
rather
than
spread
rather
thinly
across
the
border
they're
able
to
concentrate
their
efforts
a
bit
more
in
terms
of
where
we
are
having
problem
areas.
H
Now
you
know
anecdotally,
you
know
the
feedback
that
I'm
getting
in
terms
of
victoria
street,
there's
been
quite
an
effort
put
in
there,
both
by
the
environmental
health
team,
but
also
environmental
services
teams
with
education
speaking
the
landlords
and
everything.
Now
the
feedback
that
I'm
getting
is
that
there
has
been
a
degree
of
improvement
being
observed
observed
there.
H
So
that's
what
we
hope
to
be
able
to
use
our
officers
to
do
sort
of
to
build
upon
the
work
that
they're
already
doing,
but
maybe
to
be
a
wee
bit
more
focused
on
particular
problem
areas
to
be
a
wee
bit
more
responsive
to
sort
of
public
concerns
and
members
concerns
where
that
is
the
case,
whereas
the
ways
officers
are
doing
a
slightly
different
role
now
the
ways
officers
themselves.
I
don't
want
you.
H
I
don't
want
to
think
that
every
single
interaction
with
the
ways
the
officer
results
in
effects
penalty
knows
it
doesn't.
Actually
we
do
get
the
details
of
the
ones
where
they
offer
that
decide
to
offer
a
warning
instead,
for
instance,
if
it's
the
mainer
or
somebody
who
appears
to
have
maybe,
for
example,
some
difficulties
in
terms
of
understanding.
H
You
know
what
is
happening
with
the
with
the
the
officer
themselves,
so
you
know
there
is
an
opportunity
there
for
education.
The
officers
from
ways
are
good
and
not
more
confident
with
that.
We're
obviously
looking
to
sort
of
build
and
improve
on
that,
specifically
in
relation
to
people
whose
first
language
isn't
english,
so
we're
having
a
look
at
a
few
ways
that
we
can
build
upon
that
and
improve
what
we're
doing
there
as
well,
because
it's
the
early
stages
of
a
pilot,
you
know
my
own
instinct
is
yeah
look.
H
This
is
doing
the
enforcement
type
role
that
we're
hoping
for,
and
this
is
what
we
had
envisaged
from
it
and
just
don't
consider
flattery's
point
as
well,
where
we
are
getting
any
feedback
or
any
concerns
raised
from
members
of
the
public.
We
are
deliberately
trying
to
be
extremely
rapid
in
our
response
to
that,
so
that
we
can
see
that
those
measures
are
sort
of
being
considered
and
any
changes
that
we
do
need
we're
trying
to
reflect
them
really
really
quickly,
and
there
have
been
a
couple
to
be
fair.
L
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
paul
for
for
the
report,
and
I
would
agree
with
the
sentiments
of
councillor
baxter
there
I
mean
it's
a
win-win
and
yes,
there
has
been
a
few
teeth
and
problems,
and
I,
like
everyone
else,
have
have
had
the
complaints,
but
I
will
go
with
counselor
hawaiian
on
this
one
I
mean
if
there.
If
it's
genuine
lettering
issues,
then
then
you
know
it's
tough,
that's
what
the
team
are
there
to
do,
but
there
have.
L
I
would
also
say
paul
that
I've
had
one
or
two
and
my
colleagues
the
same
where
there's
been
a
genuine
mistake
and
and
this
the
appeals
process
has
worked
and
a
couple
of
tickets
have
been
overturned.
So
you
know
that
shows
the
the
robustness
of
the
system
there
as
well,
but
what
I
want
to
really
dwell
on
is
again
what
what
was
alluded
to
there
and
that's
the
environmental
wardens,
our
own
people,
that
have
been
doing
doing
some
work
on
paul.
I
want
to
commend
the
team
for
for
work.
L
They've
done
for
me,
respond
to
issues.
As
we
know,
another
hot
spot
in
our
area
is
in
around
the
anna
area,
and
I
know
the
team
were
in
there
over
this
last
couple
of
days.
Trevor
and
different
ones
have
been
back
to
me
and
I
know
what
a
couple
of
tickets
have
been
issued
as
well
and
they're
going
to
go
with
a
sticker
scheme
for
the
bins
there
as
well.
So
you
know
I
I
can
see
a
win-win
here
as
well.
G
Yeah
thanks
jared
and
thanks
paul
and
obviously
I'm
new
to
this
committee,
so
I've
been
sort
of
watching
this
from
afar.
So
it's
quite
an
interesting
concept.
So
but
look
paul,
I
I
I
agree
on
most
descendants
and
said
that
this
is
a
sort
of
a
a
a
pilot
you've
brought
in
to
hopefully
improve
something
that
was
a
very
dire
situation,
but
I
I
would
like
to
have
some
sort
of
information
in
relation
to
the
the
two
thousand
penalties
that
were
given
out.
G
G
I
think
it
really
does
need
these
guys,
because
if
it
does
deter
people
like,
like
you
say
it,
does
those
areas
aren't
as
far
as
I
can
see,
paul
it's
down
to
be
corrected,
but
I
I
I'm
not
getting
the
same
sort
of
feedback.
Other
members
are
getting
so
it
sort
of
says
to
me
that
maybe
they're
not
in
that
area.
H
Terribly,
I
can
just
come
in
just
for
clarification
there
and
just
a
couple
of
those
points.
Yes,
look
we're
working
on
the
data
systems,
so
we'll
be
able
to
provide
a
full
breakdown
just
of
precise
locations,
but
we
can
do
it
on
a
rough
basis
at
the
middle,
and
you
know
the
the
information
and
the
software
systems
that
are
used
allows
us,
as
council
officers,
to
see
precisely
where
the
officers
are
at
any
particular
point
in
time
actually
and
then
obviously
the
fixed
penalty
information.
H
We
can
tell
where
the
functionalities
have
been
served,
and
I
can't
assure
you
answering
from
quite
a
considerable
number
of
them-
have
been
served
on
them
all
and,
as
I
say,
they
know
that
that
is
a
hot
spot
area.
But
again
I
would
say
this
to
all
members
if
there
is
any
form
of
intelligence
that
you
would
like
us
to
pass
through
we're
in
weekly
communication
with
waze
and
we're
happy
to
feed
that
in
to
them
when
they
have
promised
us
be
responsive
to
that.
And
indeed
I
think
they
are.
M
Thanks
chair
and
just
just
to
follow
on
from
the
last
point
paul
and
like
we
have
some,
we
have
some
stats
to
date
and
after
the
pilot,
we'll
we'll
see
the
full
year
stats.
But
what
I
would
like
to
say
is
an
engagement
process.
You
know
from
those
stats
you
know
and
informing
the
citizens
of
the
bar
that
you
know,
enforcement
officers
are
going
to
be
in
such
an
area.
You
know
it's
about
change
in
that
mindset
among
citizens.
You
know,
let's
think,
about
the
next
time.
M
B
N
Thank
you
turn
thank
you
paul
for
the
report.
It's
just
sort
of
the
degree
there
with
a
lot
of
the
speakers
going
to
do
the
video
concert
one
there
that
engagement's
key
it's
all
right,
but
it's
good
that
we
get
plenty
of
fines,
but
we
would
love
it
to
be
that
because
these
paints
are,
as
it's
been
said
so
many
times
in
the
hot
spot
areas.
N
I
love
the
mindset,
the
beaches,
that
folks
are
not
modern
because
they
could
get
offend
and
I
think
that'll
help
in
some
of
our
smaller
towns
where
they're,
maybe
not
focusing
on
you,
know
what
I
said
so
many
times.
A
lot
of
the
things
are.
You
know
the
low-hanging
fruit
of
such
the
cigarette
butts
and
stuff
there
and
certainly
agree
with
it,
and
it's
definitely
great
that
they
are
getting
done,
but
I
think
we
do
need
to
keep
pushing
with
their
own
council
social
media
that
this
is
what
happens.
N
You
know
that
so
many
fines
have
been
happening,
that
people
do
start
to
think
hold
on
about
it,
but
there's
an
abundance,
because
I
mean
they're
very
good
at
what
to
do,
which
is
great
and
the
words
out
there
with
a
lot
of
folks
who
have
been
familiar
still
kind
of
people
that
are
prepared
to
keep
dropping.
So
do
you
think
if
we
can
keep
you
know,
those
stats
come
out.
Pull
it'd,
be
really
good
to
see
that
so
many
people
have
and
that
our
bars
getting
tidier,
hopefully
for
all
of
us.
Thank
you.
C
H
H
You
know
we
are
very
proactive
in
that
regard
and
always
have
been
that
the
side
that
probably
has
has
proven
more
difficult
for
us
has
been
this
enforcement
side.
So
there
are
still
considerable
amounts
of
messages
going
out
on
social
media.
So
we
hope
to
do
a
multilingual
one
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks
as
well,
and
we're
still
pushing
that
message
potential.
H
Also,
our
contributors
to
live
here,
love
here,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
advertising
because
I'm
associated
with
that
billboards
tv
adverts
with
the
pop-up
that
pops
out
from
behind
the
tree,
I'm
not
the
greatest
fan
of
that
advert,
but
it's
certainly
very
visible.
Anyways
it
wasn't
there.
There
is
a
message
that
is
being
pushed
fairly
consistently
there,
but
we
we
appreciate.
This
is
a
two-pronged
approach.
There's
no
doubt
about
it:
it
can't
just
be
enforcement,
and
you
know
jillian
and
fairness
prepared
all
the
groundwork
for
that
in
advance.
H
D
A
quiet,
lady
yeah,
just
on
that,
you
have
to
also
the
last
couple
of
comments
just
in
terms
of
of
the
communications
piece,
and
I
appreciate
that
it
was
up
on
social
media
and
all
that
as
well,
but
even
over
the
last
couple
of
days
with
the
event
will
have
the
other
night.
A
lot
of
people
are
complaining
that
they
don't
seize
the
social
media
piece,
I
suppose,
whatever
way
the
algorithms
work
and
all
that
it's
really
really
people
here,
sort
of
civically
minded,
maybe
they'd
see
that
I'm
just
wondering.
D
Should
we
maybe
speak
to
comms
and
maybe
put
a
newspaper
piece,
because
it's
great
to
see
these
figures
tonight
and
how
much
you've
done
on
the
thousands
of
things
and
all
that.
But
if
that
message
really
get
out
there,
even
in
terms
of
the
printed
press
or
whatever,
I
don't
even
know,
if
if
we
get
up
and
try
and
get
interviews
and
local
radio
stations,
and
all
that,
you
know
we're
the
first
council
to
do
this,
we're
piloting
this.
This
is
working
really.
Well.
You
really
get
the
message
out
there
and
aggressively
market
it.
D
The
lad
people
realize
that
abc
is
not
taking
any
any
more
nonsense
here
and
we
really
are
a
thumping
down
on
it
because,
just
as
I
said
there,
the
social
media
is
great
and
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
hits
but
the
way
the
algorithms
work.
We
know
that
a
lot
of
people
that
a
lot
of
people
miss
out
as
well.
So
it's
just
to
make
that.
Maybe,
if
you
could,
you
know
patch
in
the
comments
as
well
to
see
if
we
can
do
anything
about
it,.
H
Again,
chairman
kaiser,
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
We
did
issue
a
press
release.
You
know
within
the
first
couple
of
weeks
of
the
the
pilot
commands
and
let's
say
we
are
active
on
the
social
media
side
of
things.
The
ways
company
actually
have
been
really
well
started,
as
well
speaking
in
general
terms
about
their
work
right
across
the
councils
in
northern
ireland
that
they're
engaged
with,
but
look
take
that
on
board.
We'll
have
a
look,
we're
hoping
to
build
on
some
more
communications,
so
I'll,
say
yeah,
absolutely
we'll
keep
question.
B
J
J
Right,
thank
you
paul
for
your
report.
No,
it's
just
a
bit
of
bad
press
that
wise
had
in
another
council
area
in
the
north.
While
over
the
weekend
I
read
about
it
and
it
was
cigarette
cigarette
ash
and
one
of
the
public
had
been
found
for
flicking
the
arsenal
in
the
footpath
and
like
what
do
you
do
with
that?
It
has
to
go
somewhere,
and
I
thought
it
was
very
bad
prayers,
four
wise
and
I
would
like
to
think
that
they're
doing
that
from
arbor.
So
can
that
be
disgusting.
H
H
We
appreciate
that
now
the
council
sort
of
have
pushed
this
issue
in
the
past
before
where
we
have
run
into
similar
problems
like
this,
and
there
are
little
pouches
that
you
can
get
that
you
bring
along
with
you
to
put
your
ash
into
and
let's
say
there
are
other
bits
and
pieces
for
you
know
extinguishing
cigarettes
and
dealing
with
ash
on
the
top
of
some
of
our
bins
and
infrastructure,
and
things
like
that.
But
look
I
I'm
not
naive.
I
understand
what
you're
saying
here.
H
O
Thank
you,
chair
members,
just
a
very
short
update
on
dog
warden
recruitment.
It
was
requested
by
members
of
the
last
working
group
meeting
in
june,
so
please
inform
members
that
the
recruitment
exercise
to
fill
the
two
vacant
posts
was
completed
out
in
june.
There's
one
new
warden
commenced
on
the
first
july
and
the
second
warden
on
the
2nd
of
august.
O
I
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
chair
for.
Let
me
in
sorry
about
the
delay
there.
Yes,
look
just
a
very
quick
comment.
This
is
only
for
nothing
just
to
pass
on.
My
thanks
actually
to
elizabeth
there's
been
a
number
a
couple
of
little
things.
We've
been
working
on
lately,
in
particular
in
one
area
and
pour
down,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
work
that
your
officers
have
done
there.
I
B
E
B
O
P
O
Gordon
covered
the
weekends,
but
it's
only
in
circumstances
where
there
is
a
dog
attack
occurring,
we're
certainly
not
providing
out
of
ours
for
for
stray
dogs,
because
we
don't
have
the
resource
to
do
that.
With
the
new
dawg
wardens
now
and
post.
There
will
indeed
be
a
rota
and
they
will
be
on
that
road
to
provide
that
cover.
However,
calls
are
currently
triaged
and
myself
and
head
of
department
prior
to
all
the
calls.
So
if
you
have
any
out
of
ours
issues
around
dog
attacks,
then
please
refer
them
through.
O
You
should
have
my
mobile
number
on
gillian,
toppings
mobile
number,
but
obviously
jillian's
offered
one
so
myself.
So
all
those
calls
are
trashed
through
my
mobile
number
and
then
I'll
contact
a
dog
warden,
because
so
many
of
the
calls
may
not
necessarily
need
a
dog
warden
coming
out
so
ps
and
I
all
the
neighborhood
inspectors
have
been
provided
with
our
dog
warden
with
my
number
and
also
the
reception
of
the
kind.
So
so
that
has
been
in
place
now,
for,
I
suppose,
a
number
of
years
and
has
worked
fairly
successfully.
B
Q
Thank
you
share
and
good
evening
members
and
the
report
before
you
sets
out
details
of
an
event
that
has
been
organized
by
nilga
in
relation
to
the
cop
26
glasgow
event
in
october,
nilgar
contacting
all
councils
seeking
their
engagement
and
participation.
In
this
event,
the
report
sets
out
some
of
the
proposals
that
we
have
put
forward
as
suggestions
to
nilga
at
this
stage,
and
we
have
also
provided
a
briefing
to
party
leaders
on
this
matter.
Q
B
B
Q
B
P
P
As
an
interim
we've
contacted
all
of
our
customers
and
council
the
slot
that
they
had
and
recommended
where
they
can
to
take
their
their
waste
to
the
recycling
center.
Those
are
not
able
to
do
that.
We
will
be
contacting
them
in
the
next
week
or
so
to
book
them
a
new
slot,
and
then
anybody
new
that
is
come
online
to
inquire
about
arranging
a
bulky
waste
collection.
We've
asked
them
to
call
back
in
three
or
four
weeks
time.
D
Thank
you
yeah.
Obviously,
this
has
caused
an
awful
lot
of
anguish
among
some
of
the
real
players
sean.
Can
I
maybe
ask
when
you
say,
staff
and
pressure
is
it
to
do
with.
I
know
htv
drivers
at
the
monitor
short
supply,
and
that's
not
just
a
council
thing.
That's
right
across
the
industry
is
absolutely
an
issue
that
we
have.
You
know
how
many
multi
collection
lawyers
are
there.
Is
it
just
a
couple
across
the
borough
or.
P
So
sorry,
council,
back
back
to
yes,
so
there's
we
have.
We
operate
a
couple
of
trucks
across
the
borough,
so
the
staffing
pressures
are
around
is
sickness
and
also
leave
at
this
time
of
year.
So
so
two
things
combined
of
what
causes
problems.
So
what
we're
having
to
do
is
to
ensure
that
we
maintain
their
statutory
service,
which
is
the
refuse
collection
we're
having
to
concentrate
our
efforts
on
that
and
say
it's
unfortunate
we've
had
to
spend
for
a
month,
but
it
will
only
be
for
those
four-week
period.
D
P
D
P
M
Thanks
chair
and
thanks
very
much
for
checking
this
item
under
aob
and
also
thanks
to
you
sean
for
getting
an
update
on
this
and
yes
earlier
this
year,
this
committee
made
the
decision
to
extend
the
trial
because
of
last
year
there
was
a
number
of
disruptions,
obviously
due
to
covert
on
disruptions
to
counter
plant,
and
you
know
so.
I
appreciate
the
update
shown
on.
Hopefully
we
can
get
this
service
received
as
soon
as
possible.
Absolutely.
P
B
N
Thank
you
sure,
and
certainly
understand
that
pressures
are
center.
I
know
it
has
been
quite
an
issue
for
someone
folks
that
have
them
cancelled
there,
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
I
just
want
to
double
check
in
your
center.
It's
definitely
starting
on
october
4th
it's
going
to
be
still
the
free
service
of
which
we
have
agreed
to
when
it's
starting
in
october.
The
fourth
and
we
have
extended
that
to
try
and
stop
flight
tip
is
often
certainly
this
won't
help
that
situation
there.
So
just
one
confirmation
about
john
thanks.
P
I
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
thank
you
for
letting
me
and
I
maybe
look
at
this
slightly
differently.
I
have
to
be
honest
with
you
because
I
know
I
know
it's
quite
disappointing
for
people
if
these
services,
these
extra
services,
don't
continue,
but
I
have
to
say-
and
I
want
this
noted-
that
our
staff
are
under
an
immense
pressure
here
guys
and
these
drivers
are
under
an
immense
pressure.
I
So
if,
if
it
can't
be
done
at
the
minute,
it
can't
be
done-
and
I
know
it's
disappointing
for
some
but
there's
it
does
seem
to
me
here
to
be
a
slightly
bigger
picture
and
it's
all
right
being
very
flippant
about.
You
know
there's
not
enough
htv
drivers
and
there's
you
know
a
shortage
and,
and
they
need
their
time
off,
they
do
need
their
time
off.
These
guys
can
only
work
90
hours
every
fortnight.
I
So
you
know
if
this,
if,
if
this
is
something
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
look
at
in
the
round
over
a
slightly
longer
period,
it's
all
very
well
being
very
nice
and
very
popular
and
everything's
wonderful.
We
give
everybody
everything,
free
and
we'll
sort
all
this
out
and
that's
great
if
we
can
do
it,
are
we
in
a
position
at
this
minute
in
time
where
we
can
do
that
as
a
council?
I'm
not
so
sure
we.
J
I
To
be
honest
with
you,
members
and
and
sean
it's
nice
to
see
you
sean
actually,
because
I
haven't
seen
you
before
so
nice
to
see
you
I'm
sorry
for
going
off
here,
but
I
have
a
real.
I
really
have
a
big
thing
about
these
drivers.
I
think
they're
very
undervalued
in
our
council,
and
I
don't
like
that
and-
and
I
don't
like
the
way
some
of
this
conversation
goes
a
little
have
to
say
so,
if
they,
if
it's
the
fourth
of
october,
that
we
get
this
reinstated
great.
I
I
Under
such
pressure,
when
the
rest
of
us
were
all
sitting
at
home
at
times
they
were
right
and
if
we
need
to
support
them
here
and
we
need
to
work
with
them,
work
with
sean
work
with
the
staff
in
our
depot
to
make
sure
we
get
this
system
right,
then
that's
what
we
need
to
be
doing,
and
I
can
tell
you
that's
what
I
will
be
doing.
I
will
be
doing,
and
you
know
we
can
talk
about
hcv
drivers-
all
we
want.
Yes,
we
need.
More
of
them
everywhere
needs
more
of
them.
Business.
I
Private
business
are
also
in
this
position.
I
can
tell
you
they're
in
england,
you
look
at
the
transport
minister
in
england,
they're
looking
at
review
and
htv
driver
hours
for
this
very
reason,
so
maybe
we
should
be
speaking
to
nikola
mullen
about
the
driver's
hours.
Maybe
we
should
be
looking
at
that
sort
of
thing
about
trying
to
encourage
them
and
pay
them
a
wee
bit
better.
I've
said
this
before
in
this
committee
and
encounter
about
the
remuneration
for
these
type
of
staff.
These
are
our
core
staff.
This
is
what
these
people
are.
L
G
Yeah
yeah
sure
sean.
Thank
you
for
you
for
your
report
and
mine's
a
quick
question
and
that's
it
sort
of
it's
through
this.
Obviously,
we
have
got
key
services,
we're
trying
to
provide,
be
it
curbside
and
bin
collection,
but
also
our
recycling
centers,
and
are
we
obviously
if
you've
talked
about
the
problems
with
with
staff?
G
P
And
thank
you
question
yeah.
I've.
I've
had
nothing
come
back
to
me
to
say
that
we've
got
staffing
pressures
in
the
recycling
centers.
It's
a
slightly
different
skill
base.
It
is,
it
is
really
the
drivers
that
we're
we're
really
struggling
with
at
the
moment.
So
we
we
can
move
people
around
slightly
better
who
don't?
Who
don't
have
that
driving
driving
need.
So
at
the
moment
we're
pretty
well
covered
in
that
we're.
Okay,.
B
B
Councillor
greenfield,
thank
you
er
members
and
online
viewers.
In
accordance
with
the
schedule,
six
of
the
local
government
act.
We
are
now
be
moving
into
confidential
session
of
the
council.
This
means
that
we
will
be
turning
off
public
feed
of
the
meeting.
This
will
be
returned
when
the
meeting
is
restarted.
B
Thank
you
danny.
I
think
that's
it
for
the
night.
Folks
is
any
other
relevant
business.
We've
dealt
with
earlier
on.
So
I'd
like
to
thank
you
all
for
coming
and
giving
up
your
hair
enough
for
coming
for
giving
up
your
time
tonight
there
and
thank
donny
and
the
support
on
carl
and
all
the
other
officers
who
was
supporting
us
all
the
way.
So
thanks
very
much
folks
on
have
a
good
night.