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Armagh City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council Full Council Meeting on Monday 24th of January 2022 at 6.30pm. This is a hybrid meeting with Members and staff attending socially distanced in the chamber and remotely using Zoom
B
C
Ict
to
get
us
going.
Thank
you
very
much.
Members
again
welcome
and
welcome
to
our
officers,
member
of
the
public
and
to
our
first
meeting
in
january
2022
our
open
announcements
members
used
to
have
most
of
them
on
your
in
your
inbox.
There
can
I
first
of
all
pay
a
tribute
to
our
former
councillor
evelyn
miss
alvin
corey,
who
passed
away
in
december
and
she's
a
former
seniors
counselor
from
armagh.
C
He
recently
achieved
his
70th
year
duel,
which
is
fantastic
accolade
for
anyone.
Also
members.
You
will
be
well
aware
of
the
the
death
of
actually
murphy
and
who
passed
away
or
he
was
murdered
on
the
12th
of
january,
and
I
did
open
up
a
book
of
condolences
and
also
within
that
book
of
condolences
which
is
online.
C
There
was
information
for
members
of
the
public
and
again,
if,
if
you
feel
that
you
need
support
or
if
any
of
your
constituents
need
support,
can
please
there
is
information
there
to
be
able
to
direct
them
to,
and,
lastly,
we
have
a
number
of
head
achievers
within
the
borough.
We
have
a
lot
of
members.
Our
of
our
constituents
had
received
accolades
off
from
her
majesty
the
queen
in
the
new
year's
honors
list.
C
D
Lord
first
of
all,
I
want
to
be
associated
with
your
remarks
about
a
former
colleague
of
mine
in
in
in
our
ma
the
late,
miss
curry,
evelyn
curry
evelyn
was
a
very,
very
dedicated,
loyal
ulster
unionist
counselor
from
1997
to
2005.
She
represented
the
crossmoor
dea
and
was
a
very
formidable
lady.
There
is
no
question
about
it.
Ahavali
youth
club
was
mentioned
by
yourself
and
I
have
no
doubt.
D
But
there
has
been
hundreds
of
young
people
went
through
the
duke
of
edinburgh
awards
under
the
very
diligent
care
and
advice
and
support
of
evelyn
curry
over
many
many
years,
and
she
was
a
a
leading,
a
truth,
organist
in
in
a
heavily
parish
church
and
on
the
day
of
her
funeral,
that
reverend
hagan
told
a
peculiar
story
the
morning
that
he
arrived
in
the
church
for
the
first
time
he
was
preparing
for
service
and
miss
corey
was
sitting
at
the
organ
and
he
said
to
her
something
about
how
we
play
in
the
organ.
D
She
says:
no,
I'm
only
tamper
here
and
he
says
all
right.
How
long
have
you
been
temporary?
She
says
I've
been
temporary
for
34
years
and
he
says
I
think
it
is
time
you
you
were
made
permanent
so
but
in
any
event,
I
I
certainly
paid
tribute
to
evelyn
curry
and
that
did
extend
to
our
family,
our
our
deepest
sympathy
on
the
death
of
what
was
no
doubt
a
tremendous
leader,
a
lady
that
gave
her
all
to
the
community,
to
education
and
to
youth,
and
thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
lord
mayor
and,
first
of
all,
can
I
just
correct
that
it
was
brother
hari
who
passed
away,
not
herbie
brother
hari,
and
I
do
thank
you
for
your
caring
words
of
simply
it's
much
appreciated
and
also
I'd
like
to
thank
the
other
individual
counselors.
E
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
I
had
the
privilege
of
serving
with
him
and,
as
I
said
before,
he
was
a
man
of
integrity
and
great
honesty
and
the
one
thing
about
being
teaching
mathematics.
He
was
able
to
keep
the
officers
on
their
toes
when
they
came
around
to
the
estimates.
I
can
tell
you
if
there
were
a
penny
out,
he
knew
it.
I
I
just
like
to
send
my
sincere
sympathy
to
his
wife,
margaret
to
his
son,
david
daughter,
helm
and
the
wider
family
circle.
Thank
you
very
much.
Lord
mer.
C
G
Thank
you,
lord
murr,
and
yes,
on
behalf
of
the
sdlp.
I
want
to
be
associated
with
the
remark.
The
previous
remarks
and
they'd
pass
on
our
condolences
to
alderman
anderson's,
brother
or
sorry,
I'm
not
anderson's
yeah.
It
was
amazing,
yeah
and
also
the
lord
mark.
I
just
personally
want
to
thank
you
for
opening
the
online
book
of
condolences
for
ashley
murphy
and,
with
your
permission,
could
I
ask
maybe
that
a
country
granule
only
say
a
few
words
on
that
scene
item.
Thank
you.
Lord.
H
It
is
with
a
heavy
heart
that
I
want
to
pass
on
my
condolences
to
the
parents
and
family
of
ashley
murphy
ashlyn
had
such
a
positive
impact
on
our
community.
She
had
her
whole
life
ahead
of
her.
She
had
much
more
to
give,
but
she
was
robbed
of
that
right.
Ashley
murphy
went
out
in
broad
daylight
for
a
run.
She'd
done
everything
she
could
do
to
keep
herself
safe,
but
it
wasn't
enough
if
a
woman
can't
go
out
and
exercise
in
the
middle
of
the
day
in
a
popular
area,
where
can
she
feel
safe?
H
Women
deserve
to
feel
safe
and
not
all
men
are
predators,
but
all
women
know
that
they
are
potentially
prey.
We
need
a
shift
in
culture
for
people
to
start
calling
out
sexist
misogynist
behavior
in
boardrooms
and
building
sites,
and
we
need
to
educate
men
from
a
young
age
on
how
women
should
be
respected.
H
I
would
ask
that
the
council
write
to
the
minister
for
justice
to
ask
them
what
they
are
willing
to
do
to
combat
violence
against
women,
and
I
would
also
ask
the
council
invite
women's
aid
and
to
present
to
us
to
see
what
we
can
be
doing
as
civic
leaders
to
keep
our
community
safe
balance
against
women
needs
to
be
stopped.
We
all
have
a
responsibility
to
make
that
happen,
to
go
out
for
a
run
and
to
never
return
home
is
any
parent's
worst
nightmare.
We
must
do
better
because
we
deserve
better.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
very
much
cancer
on
it.
Yes,
we
invite
them
in
and
bring
them
to
the
relevant
committee,
and
I
have
no
problem
writing
off
to
the
the
minister
to
see
what
exactly
she
intends
to
do,
regardless,
I'm
going
to
bring
in
councillor
brown
pope,
please
thank.
I
You
lord
mayor
and
yes,
I'd
like
to
be
associated
as
well.
With
the
previous
comments
with
icelane
murphy
and
on
behalf
of
the
alliance
group,
I
would
like
to
offer
our
sincere
condolences
on
the
side
passing
of
both
mr
mckelvey,
the
former
chairman
of
bambridge
and
district
council
and
alvin
and
curry.
Our
thoughts
are
with
the
family
and
friends
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
I
just
wonder,
and
if
you're,
when
you're
going
to
speak
again,
could
you
bring
your
your
microphone
a
wee
bit
closer
because
it
was
extremely
difficult
to
hear
you
in
the
chamber
here:
okay,
okay,.
C
Thank
you,
counselor
hockey,
please.
K
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
just
on
behalf
of
our
party
group
and
as
well.
I
would
like
to
extend
our
condolences
to
the
family
and
friends
and
partner
of
ashley
murphy,
and
I
think
everyone
know
here
this
evening
felt
the
impact
of
her
death
and
her
and
the
murder,
and
I
do
just
want
to
acknowledge
the
in
the
different
and
vigils
that
took
place
across
the
borough
and
in
commemoration
of
ashlane
and
in
commemoration
of
her
death,
and
I
do
think
and
would
be
excellent,
to
have
women
in
women's
aid
here
and
myself
and
cancer.
K
I
do
also
want
to
acknowledge
work
ongoing
by
the
torment
executive
in
protecting
women,
but
I
do
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
men
are
victims
of
domestic
violence
and
abuse
as
well,
and
I
think
that
has
been
forgotten
about
a
little
bit
in
the
in
the
commentary
over
arsene's
death.
So
I
don't
think
we
can
forget
that
men
are
subject
to
violence
as
well,
but
just
to
pass
on
our
condolences
and
thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
can
I
be
associated
with
the
comments
in
relation
to
the
death
of
alderman
anderson's
brother
of
mr
mckelvey
and,
of
course,
of
miss
corey,
who
you
know?
Well,
I
didn't
spend
any
time
with
her
on
council,
but
her
her
work
in
the
community
was
very
well
known
and
right
across
the
community,
especially
around
the
ahabili
area.
So
I
want
to
be
associated
with
that.
Just
in
relation
to
the
death
of
a
young
arsene
murphy.
L
I
think
it's
important
that
we
as
civic
leaders,
the
men
in
the
room,
stand
up
and
be
counted
because
we
need
to
let
our
fellow
man
know
that
any
of
this
type
of
behavior
against
a
woman
is
absolutely
wrong
that
as
a
father,
I
want
my
daughters
to
grow
up
in
a
society
where
girls
feel
safe,
but
also
as
a
father
of
of
a
boy.
I
want
him
to
be
a
strong
enough
man
to
call
out
misogyny
to
call
out
hit
crimes
against
women
and
to
protect
women.
L
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
as
a
collective
body
send
that
very
strong
message
and
I
think,
there's
a
there's.
A
strong.
A
rationale
for
bringing
women's
aid
in,
I
know
the
work
that
they
do
in
our
community,
but
also,
maybe
that
they
could
help
us
stamp
out
this
terrible
terrible
prejudice.
Thank
you.
M
C
C
C
Okay,
happy
days,
move
on
to
agenda
item
for
committing
meetings.
Minutes
4.1.
Can
you
seek
a
proposal
on
secondary
for
the
military
environmental
services
committee
held
on
the
6th
of
january?
22
can
be
taken
as
read
on
as
approved
as
a
crack
record
answered
greenfield.
You
have
the
yeah
chair
proposed
by
council
greenfield.
Can
I
get
a
sander
from
someone
who
is
in
the
committee
councillor
tennyson?
Are
you
in
the
committee.
N
C
N
Yeah,
thank
you,
lord
mayor.
N
It's
just
in
relation
to
es09
2022
and
I
hope
it's
a
small
enough
request,
but
during
the
meeting
it
was
discussed
that
a
number
of
councillors
had
representations
from
members
of
warrington
climate
group
suggesting
that
they
would
be
content
to
present
at
committee
as
opposed
to
full
council
and
now
the
original
correspondence
that
we
received
from
the
group
was
actually
requesting
that
they
presented
full
council
and
I
had
suggested
at
the
time
it
might
be
more
appropriate
that
we
communicate
with
them
through
official
channels
and
deal
with
the
request,
as
written
that
didn't.
N
Actually
members
didn't
seem
to
be
in
agreement
with
that.
However,
I've
since
spoken
to
members
of
the
group
and
some
of
whom
have
said
that
that
aren't
actually
content
to
present
at
committee.
So
it
was
just
to
propose
lord
mayor
that
when
we
do
write
to
the
group
that
we
actually
give
them
the
option
as
to
whether
they
would
wish
to
present
a
committee
or
full
council,
given
that's
what
was
actually
requested,
and
I
hope
that's
a
minor
enough
amendment.
Thank
you
I'll
make
that
a
formal
proposal.
Q
Yes,
thank
you,
lord
mayor.
As
indicated
on
the
night
at
the
environmental
services
committee
meeting,
I
would
not
be
in
favor
of
a
presentation
to
full
council.
I
think
it's
appropriate
and
I
think
the
group
should
be
heard
at
committee
if
we're
going
to
exceed,
to
have
groups
coming
to
full
council
we're
going
to
fairly
lengthen
the
meetings
out
and
I
in
the
past
have
been
approached
by
one
or
two
groups
who
wanted
to
present,
but
I
guided
them
in
the
direction
of
the
committee.
Q
So
on
that
basis
I
would
propose
know
that
we
hear
the
group
and
the
committee.
R
Thank
you,
gardner
yeah,
look,
it
was
the
group
approached
me
an
individual
from
the
group,
and
it
was
me
who
really
is
with
roger
the
chief
executive
on
the
best
way
to
progress
this
particular
request.
R
Now
I've
even
listened
with
that
particular
individual
from
the
claim
equipment
weinstein
back
on
forward,
and
it
never
really
said
to
me
about
full
council.
Once
I
explained
the
mechanics
and
you
know
you'd
have
more
time
in
the
committee
and
you
have
more
frank
discussion
and
it's
not
as
formal
there's
less
business,
because
you
come
to
formal
commitment
council
meeting
on
the
monday
night
there'd
be
more
business
here
and
he
was
quite
content
and
has
never
indicated
to
me
that
he
would
prefer
to
go
back
to
full
council.
R
So
I
don't
know
actually
where
this
has
come
from
to
be
honest,
but
we
had
a
full
and
frank
discussion
about
it
at
committee
and
it's
always
been
custom
and
practice
that
these
groups
come
come
to
committees
and
that's
the
best
forum
for
them,
and
I
think
there
was
consensus
from
everybody
around
the
committee.
Nobody,
with
the
exception
accounts
for
telling
us
about
that.
So
I
think
we
should
stand
happy
to
propose
our
second,
what
I
already
said
that
we
stick
to
what
would
be
our
greatest
committee
after
the
discussion.
Thank.
C
Hey
you
baxter
yeah.
We
have
a
proposer
on
secondary,
so
we'll
begin
with
that.
One
first
cancer
tell
us:
are
you
looking
back
in
before
cancer
savage.
N
Just
very
briefly,
lord
mayor,
I
mean
I'm
not
questioning
councillor
baxter's
sincerity
in
terms
of
his
engagement
and
with
members
of
the
group.
Equally,
I
have
engaged
with
you
know:
individuals,
I'm
very
conscious
that
you
know
one
individual
or
two
individuals
doesn't
necessarily
represent
a
whole
organization
or
a
whole
community
group.
N
So
I
just
think,
given
that
there
does
seem
to
be
a
slight
difference
of
opinion
and
we've
maybe
been
hearing
different
things,
it
would
be
more
appropriate
that
we
communicate
directly
with
them
formally
as
a
community
group
through
formal
channels
and
rather
than
just
you
know,
individuals
broken
counselors
just
so
that
we're
absolutely
clear
and
if
the
group
is
happy
to
content,
is
happy
and
content
as
a
whole
to
to
present
a
committee.
That's
that's
absolutely
fair
enough.
N
I'm
simply
saying
that
we
should
give
them
that
option,
given
that
that
is
what
was
formally
requested,
and
that
appears
to
be
the
views
of
some
of
their
members.
But
aside
from
that,
lord
mayor,
the
subject
matter
here
is
around
the
fuel,
is
around
the
issue
of
fossil
fuel
divestment,
and
I
understand
there's
going
to
be
a
presentation
at
full
council
next
month
from
nilgos.
Now.
This
is
an
excellent
local
environmental
activist
group
and
who
are
incredibly
interested
in
this
issue.
N
Who
wish
to
prevent
present
a
view,
and
I
think
it's
incredibly
important-
that
all
countries
and
councillors
here
and
are
willing
to
listen
directly
to
the
views
of
activists
and
volunteers
and
within
our
community,
and
I
think
it
would
be
very
advantageous
and
very
beneficial
and
that
both
of
those
views
are
heard
at
the
same
time
at
the
same
meeting.
And
if
we
are
to
take
any
view
or
make
any
progress
in
terms
of
the
issue
of
fossil
fuel
divestment.
N
So
I
think
it's
important
given
the
nature
of
the
subject,
the
importance
of
the
subject,
nature,
and
but
also
the
fact
that
this
is
a
local
group
with
a
particular
interest
and
some
expertise.
I
think
it
would
be
very
worthwhile
that
they're,
given
the
opportunity
to
present
in
the
forum
that
they
see
fit
and
as
a
knockout
for
a
second
that
you
know
counselor
baxter
here
is
sincere.
I
just
don't
think
we
can
include
can
conclude
off
the
back
of
one
or
two
members
of
the
group
what
their
view
is
as
a
collective.
S
Yes,
lord
mayor,
thanks,
lord
mark,
let
me
in
yes,
everybody
seems
to
be
speaking
to
the
group.
They
contacted
me
about
it
as
well,
but
obviously
it
was
not
committed,
but
I'd
be
keen
to
hear
what
they
have
to
say
in
full
council,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
with
follow
protocol
so
happy
enough
and
they
were
they
said:
they'd
prefer
to
talk
to
phil
present
the
full
council
but
happy
enough
with
committee.
S
In
other
words,
so
that's
the
way
it
had
been
relayed
to
me
and
I
suppose
we
can't
I
can
understand
the
members
you
know,
because
the
council
meetings
can
run
all
along
so,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
full
council
here,
the
views
of
groups
you
know
throughout
you
know,
because
we
need
to.
We
need
to
get
the
full
grasp
of
what
people's
concerns
are
within
the
community
enough.
So
they're
young
are
there
a
small
group,
so
they
are
in
the
wernstein
area
and
they've
had
several
meetings
with
local
councillors
now.
S
T
Yes,
yes,
lord,
thank
you
for
letting
me
in
look
lord
merv.
We
get
plenty
of
requests
for
community
groups
to
come
and
present
to
us
and
most
of
them
go
to
the
committees
and
as
councillors
you
center,
you
know
he
would
like
to
hear
them.
He
can
you
know
every
member
can
join
in
to
view
a
committee
making
on
and
see
their
presentation.
T
I
would
disagree
with
councillor
tennyson
in
terms
of
next
months,
where
we've
got
the
nilgosan
with
the
the
pension
presentation,
it
will
become
a
good
debate
between
two
sides
with
the
council
in
the
middle.
It's
important
that,
if
we're
having
the
pension
people
in
about
divestment
that
were
able
to
question
them
and
not
have
another
group
coming
in
on
the
asking
character
question,
so
I
think
it's
important
having
both
in,
but
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
work
at
the
same
time,
we'll
be
in
the
middle
of
a
debate
between
two
opposing
sides.
T
C
C
R
R
Members
are
failing
to
grasp
the
complexities
of
having
two
groups
and
country
kevin.
Savage
is
really
a
little
bit
there.
The
complexities
of
two
groups
coming
in
on
the
same
night
and
we've
done
this
before,
and
this
is
where
the
experience
comes
in
from
members
that
have
been
here
maybe
longer,
and
it
was
traded
and
articulated
on
the
night
of
the
committee.
The
last
time
we'd
done
it,
it
was
a
horrendous
meeting.
We
had
two
opposing
sides.
I
think
it
was
to
do
with
the
interconnector.
R
C
N
No
chair
look,
it
was.
It
was
intended
to
be
simple
enough.
It
was
just
that
we
would
give
the
group
the
option
to
present
where
they
feel
is
appropriate.
I'm
being
lectured
a
lot
here
about
you
know
protocol,
but
given
that
neil
goski
is
presenting
directly
to
full
council
and
not
to
committee,
I'm
not
sure
where
protocol
fits
in
there.
These
are
constituents,
they're
activists,
they're
residents
of
the
borough.
N
I
thought
it
would
be
a
good
opportunity
and
for
us
to
try
and
work
with
them
and
hear
their
point
of
view,
but
look
if
others
prefer
them
to
to
go
to
committee.
Like
that's,
that's
fair
enough,
but
that's
all.
It
was
lord
mayor
just
that
we
would
give
them
the
option
on
the
basis
of
their
request.
So.
C
C
R
V
W
D
Y
AA
P
AB
J
C
G
C
Looks
like
there's
no
wi-fi:
either
cancer,
holland,
no
lordner.
D
AC
V
C
Thank
you,
kendra
nicholson
is
either.
C
O
Nearly
forgot,
lord
may
tell
you
the
truth.
I
haven't
had
to
listen
to
the
election
broadcast
from
the
alliance
party
on
this
issue,
but
I
never
that's
what
we've
come
to
expect
in
this
place
and
I
did
used
to
get
the
reputation
for
prolonging
council
meetings.
O
I
think
that
batman
has
been
firmly
passed,
certainly
to
both
messers
lavree
and
tennyson
so
happy
days
for
that
in
relation
to
ed,
our
es06
2022,
single-use
plastics
update
and
in
relation
to
the
climate,
change,
working
group
and
strategy
and
what's
very
important
environmental
issues
and
concerns
for
us
all,
particularly
around
plastics
and
recycling,
and
all
of
that
sort
of
stuff.
One
of
the
other
issues
that
lord
mer
you
bear
with
me
as
I
try
and
stretch
this,
but
that
has
been
brought
to
my
attention.
O
It's
not
brought
to
my
attention
every
week
and
every
other
member
across
this
chamber
will
have
the
cm
issue
and
climate
change
strategies
dealing
with
plastics,
and
it's
really
vital.
We
do
that
and,
as
a
council,
I
think
we
do
that
in
terms
of
our
recycling
rates
much
better
than
most
in
northern
ireland,
and
we
should
be
proud
of
that.
O
But
one
of
the
things
that
I
feel
like
we're
not
getting
on
top
of
is
the
issue
of
litter
on
our
streets
and
also
dog
filing
on
our
streets,
which
is
of
much
greater
concern,
given
the
prevalence
of
it
across
the
borough.
And
I
don't
want
to
get
into
a
whole
debacle
about
the
ways
and
workforce
of
that
and
we
have
wise
out
there
doing
the
enforcement
stuff,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
that
either.
O
But
one
of
the
issues
that
we
always
face
as
counselors
is
that
when
there's,
if
she's
running
dog,
failing
we're
having
to
speak
to
officers
trying
to
get
them
out
to
clean
it
or
whatever
else-
and
I
happened
to
notice
just
the
other
day-
the
belfast
city
council
have
this
wonderful
machine
called
fido
that
effectively
acts
as
I'm
pardoned
upon
here,
but
effectively
acts
as
a
poover.
O
O
I
have
been
inundated
with
complaints
and
I
think
this
is
one
thing
that
the
council,
maybe
the
environmental
services
committee,
should
look
at
if
we
need
to
put
that
on
the
capital
list
for
expenditure,
or
at
least
some
way
that
we
can
protect
our
employees
a
wee
bit
better
in
dealing
with
this
issue
as
well,
because
I
am
conscious
some
of
the
staff
are
having
to
get
down
and
lift
this
themselves.
So
I
just
want
to
raise
that.
O
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
get
a
handle
on
it,
because
there
are
health
and
safety
on
welfare
issues,
particularly
in
relation
to
children
across
parks
around
by
schools,
and
you
know
quite
quite
often
at
the
end
of
garden
paths,
certainly
the
issues
that
I
get
picked
up
on.
So
I
would
hope
that
maybe
we
can
look
at
that
and
bring
that
back
through
committee
for
a
report,
maybe
just
to
see
what
belfast
are
doing,
see
what
examples
we
can
get
from
there
and
how
we
might
learn
from
their
experience.
D
I'm
on
the
the
main
council
meeting
but
I'll
leave
it
on
adams,
I've
spoken
to
others
and
we'll
sort.
The
problem
out
today
and
they'd
inform
our
our
chief
executive
on
in
relation
to
that.
Z
Thank
you,
lord
mayor
and,
and
the
spread
of
things
changing
within
the
chamber.
I
am
now
going
to
be
in
full
agreement
with
councillor
cosby
of
the
dup.
I
am
more
than
happy
to
second
what
he
has
proposed
here
tonight,
this
issue
around
dogfighting
and
on
letter
generally
in
our
areas.
This
has
been
going
since
they
started
in
2014
and
well.
You
know
all
of
us
here
and
especially
those
on
the
environmental
services
committee.
Z
When
we
acknowledge
there's,
always
stresses
and
strains,
I
think
the
one
thing
that
has
been
missing
from
day
one
is
for
us
to
be
given
innovative
approaches
to
it.
So
I
would
wholeheartedly
second
the
the
proposal
that
moore's
brought
to
the
committee
around
this.
Z
This
issue
is
not
going
away,
in
fact,
if
anything
it's
getting
worse,
and
that
is
a
reflection
on
on
us
as
a
council,
we
need
to
be
asking
other
areas
what
they're
doing
pick
out
the
good
stuff
don't
take
on
the
bad
stuff
and
and
come
up
with
better
ideas,
and
you
know
it's
it's
fair
to
say.
Although
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
can
divide
us
in
this
chamber,
all
of
us
will
be
united
when
it
comes
to
these
issues.
Z
I
know
I
speak
to
alderman
mitray
on
on
occasions
where
we
can
do
nothing
but
agree
that
you
know
our
town,
centers
and
the
dog
for
an
initiate.
It
just
seems
to
get
worse
and
worse
and
worse
and
as
we
move,
I
think
it's
it's
timely
in
the
sense
we're
moving
out
of
covert
restrictions,
we're
moving
away.
You
know,
towards
the
end
of
the
the
pandemic.
Now
is
the
time
to
refocus
and
don't
just
go
back
to
what
we
did
before
and
hope
that
it
works.
Z
C
Thank
you
councillor.
I
think,
there's
over
the
course
of
the
pandemic,
but
there's
been
a
massive
raise
in
dogs
throughout
the
borough,
but
I'd
like
to
know
that
conversation
about
a
paver
between
yourselves,
I'm
sure
it
was
quite
interesting.
S
Thank
you,
lord
mark,
it's
nice
to
see
that
dog
poo
has
united
the
chamber,
but
anyway,
look
the
rural
areas
are
villages
where
it's
time,
donald
trump,
especially
the
number
of
calls
I've
received.
This
last
number
of
weeks
is
horrendous,
like
you
know,
and
there's
one
lady
in
one
development
in
warrenstein
left
at
18
bags
of
dog
poo
and
that's
not
acceptable.
S
It's
not
the
dogs,
it's
the
owners,
irresponsible
dog
owners
that
we
need,
but
not,
but
we
need
to
be
looking-
and
I
agree
with
the
two
counselors
before
me,
looking
at
all
our
good
practices,
sharing
of
knowledge
through
other
councils
and
what
they
do
and
how
that
can
be
brought
into
our
country
to
help
improve,
but
it
really
lies
with
the
dog
owner.
You
know
they
have
there's
a
responsibility
there
and
perhaps
there's
not
enough
targeted,
especially
speaking
from
as
a
rural
councillor,
there's
not
enough
targeted
in
our
rural
villages.
S
You
know
where
action
needs
to
be
taken.
You
know
greater
than
what
it
is
at
the
moment.
There's
not
enough
people
on
the
ground
officers
on
the
ground
or
this
company
on
the
ground
us
targeting
these
people.
Who's
doing
this,
that's
totally
irresponsible
dog
owners
need
to
wise
up
and
clean
up
after
themselves.
Instead
of
vulnerable
people
going
to
school,
we
have
skilled
children,
carrying
it
right
into
school
and
the
dangers
that
brings.
You
know
it's
totally
unacceptable.
S
AE
Thank
you,
lord
man.
I
was
going
to
second
kind
of
surprise.
You
supposedly
I
did
have
some
few
people
with
me,
but
one
of
the
things
that
he
was
talking
about
there
was
there
is
a
council
who
has
a
mother
motorbike,
which
does
this
type
of
thing.
I
suppose
there's
a
bit
of
confusion
around
in
our
own
council.
AE
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
knows
that
the
proper
process
of
who
you
actually
would
be
going
to
clean
this
up
if
it
does
for
no
over
the
last
weekend,
especially
as
you
know
yourself
or
murder
off
the
island,
this
has
been
trampled
into
the
shops.
It's
been
banned,
bridge
all
around
every
street.
I
think
we've
seen
from
port
of
down
berg
and
weinstein
everyone's
mentioned.
AE
It's
any
different
in
any
part
of
the
borough
at
the
moment,
so
certainly
would
be
keen
to
see
that
we
do
come
back
with
some
ideas
of
something
different
to
try
for,
but
and
at
one
point
that
we
always
seem
to
hear
that
it's
very
hard
to
catch
people
doing
this,
and
I
totally
get
that,
but
there's
one
who
is
out
walking
the
dog
in
the
morning.
Even
quite
often
there's
awful
conversation
to
have,
but
there's
fresh
piles
of
dog
dirt
during
the
day
as
well.
AE
I
don't
believe
that
it's
always
done
at
nighttime
throughout
the
borough
and
certainly
we're
walking
up
and
down
our
streets.
You
can
see
it
somebody's
talking
about
a
paver,
but
I
had
someone
for
me
already
and
say
we're
coming
out
of
a
pandemic
and
going
into
a
pood
hammock,
and
it's
awful
to
think
that
that's
what
people
are
thinking
of
barbara
and
what
are
we
actually
doing
about
it?
So
it's
just.
They
agree
with
those
who
spoke
and
soldiers
to
point
out
that
it
is
right
across
the
border
in
every
area.
V
Yeah
thanks
lord
merlin
and
I'll
I'll
be
brief
and
it's
along
the
cmla's,
but
I
could
it's
just
to
go
back
to.
I
think
it
was
the
14th
of
may
2018,
judging
by
the
council's
own
website
and
a
council
secure,
state-of-the-art
cleaning
machine,
and
I
was
out
there
as
lord
mayor
for
the
publicity
around
that,
and
it
was
quite
an
epic
looking
bit
of
kid.
It
was.
V
I
know
I've
had
the
poover,
but
this
was
the
gladiator
max
vac
mv
700
and
it
generated
quite
a
bit
of
steam
in
the
middle
of
lurgan
and
that
wasn't
the
agreement
coming
from
alderman
murdery
and
councillor
hockey,
and
it
was
from
this
machine.
But
I
think
everybody
would
agree
when
I
seen
the
job
it
did
in
the
in
the
center
on
the
pavement
there.
V
V
I
know
it
would
be
warmly
welcomed
in
rich
hill
village
to
clean
the
the
new
pavements
there
and
because
they
get
very
green
as
the
sun
shines
on
one
side
of
the
street
and
misses
the
other,
and
you
have
the
algae
and
that
growing
over
the
winter,
and
it
can
be
very,
very
slippery,
and
it's
something
that's
raised
with
me
continually.
So
I
would,
if
you
would
permit
me
lord
merges
to
seek
an
update,
perhaps
for
I
don't
set
an
environment
so
for
the
next
full
council.
V
C
Thank
you,
alderman,
actually
trying
to
think
of
a
quote
from
the
gladiator
film,
but
it's
not
coming
to
me
councillor,
michael
london,
please.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
lord
mer,
and
yes,
I
want
to
thank
councillor
cosby
for
reason
this
again
on
councillor,
kyle,
savage
and
suppose
as
a
rural
councillor
as
well,
I'm
constantly
giving
all
about
dog
poo
litter
littering
along
our
railroads.
G
We
all
see
the
figures
of
the
enforcement
agencies
in
logan
and
our
tyranny
centers,
but
we
need
we
need
to
see
them
out
on
the
ground
in
the
railroads
railroads
at
the
minute
are
disgraced,
and
you
know,
even
as
early
as
the
last
freddy
has
today
passed
a
local
school
and
the
youngster
were
actually
having
a
step
over
the
dog
for
outside
the
school.
Absolutely
ridiculous!
So
does
the
way
we
need
enforcement
teams
out
in
their
on
our
railroads
regularly
as
well.
So
thank
you.
Lord
mayor.
D
Just
to
support
the
suggestions
that
have
been
made
in
in
relation
to
this
I
mean
the
rural
roads.
I
I
mean
I
did
read
the
report
as
regards
the
activity
of
the
wise
group-
I
I
must
say
it's
100
percent
in
in
the
sense
of
as
far
as
it
goes,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
it
does
need
to
have
some
reflection
on
the
rural
areas.
D
There
are
particularly
hot
spots
on
rural
areas
of
if
you
turn
off
a
main
road
or
whatever
people
just
seem
to
be
able
to
dump
things
out
of
the
car
or
lorry
or
whatever.
So
I
I
certainly
would
support
the
thought
that
there
need
to
be
some
targeting
in
the
hot
spots
in
in
in
the
rural
areas.
Alderman
wilson
made
reference
to
a
machine
that
this
council
bought
or
has,
and
I
he's
more
fortunate
than
I
suspect,
most
other
counselors,
because
I
have
never
seen
this
machine.
D
I
I
don't
know
that
it's
a
has
done
any
work
in
in
in
my
part
of
the
area.
I
agree
with
the
issue
as
regards
the
streets
in
rich
hill,
or
indeed,
market
hill
or
town
right,
they're,
chewing
gum
and
whatever.
So
if
that
machine
is
there,
I
we
need
to
focus
some
attention
on
somebody
been
able
to
use
it
and
do
some
work
out
in
in
the
area
is
concerned
it.
D
Q
Thank
you,
lord
murr.
I
wasn't
intent
on
speaking
on
this
tonight
as
I've
been
in
and
communication
with
the
department
around
the
wise
trial,
which
will
end
in
three
months
time
and
in
relation
to
how
we
can
tweak
that
to
make
it
more
effective.
I
do
believe
that
there
has
been
some
benefits
from
having
them.
No
doubt
people
have
become
more
aware
of
whenever
they
drop
letter,
but
the
letter
actions
of
the
group
of
the
companies
seem
to
be
pretty
targeted
and
we
need
them
more
widespread.
Q
But
in
my
communication
with
the
department,
I
ask
that
the
next
environmental
services
meeting
be
dedicated
to
having
the
wise
company
in,
and
they
have
come
back
to
me
to
indicate
that
they
thought
it
would
be
better
to
have
a
workshop.
Now.
Personally,
I
agree
with
every
counselor
what
has
been
said
tonight.
This
is
an
issue.
We've
spent
a
lot
more
time
on
than
we
ever
should
we're
no
better
now
than
we
were
five
ten
years
ago
within
this
local
government
council.
Q
So
what
I
would
make
the
proposal
is
that
a
workshop
dedicated
to
litter
and
dog
filing
is
held
for
environmental
services.
Members
and
anyone
else
that
wants
to
attend
on
a
night
which
will
be
before
the
end
of
february
that
this
council
will
treat
this
as
a
priority
and
that
the
wise
team
will
be
invaded
along
or
the
management
of
the
team
to
hear
the
concerns
of
councillors
around
how
they
we
move
forward
in
this
here,
because
we
can't
let
this
drift,
we
can't
let
it
sit.
AF
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
I
would
just
like
to
agree
with
every
every
councillor
who's
spoken
tonight
on
this
issue.
This
is
something,
as
others
have
said,
that
we
have
constantly
raised
now.
I
know
the
issue
of
dog
farlan
is
a
very
difficult.
It's
a
very
complex
thing,
because
people
are
taking
their
dogs
for
walks
at
very
early
in
the
morning
before
our
officers
are
in
work
or
late
at
night.
So
it's
trying
to
think
of
something
innovative
of
how
we
can
actually
potentially
catch
these
people.
AF
We
have
been
good
on
some
occasions,
but
you
know
most
of
the
complaints
that
I
would
get
would
be
from
people
in
town
centers,
like
tan
righty
and
other
areas,
where
it's
disgusting
to
find
that
when
they
go
to
a
local
shop
or
indeed
the
shop
owner
goes
to
open
up
in
the
morning
and
there's
dog
fart
outside
their
premises
are
along
the
street,
and
you
know
parents
taking
their
kids
to
school
and
proms,
and
things
like
that,
so
I
think
we
could
be
and
should
be
doing
more.
AF
I
it
is
very
difficult,
but
I
think
it
would
like
to
see
it.
I
think,
on
the
education
front,
I
would
like
to
maybe
get
a
report
from
from
our
officers
in
environmental
health.
When
I
say
education,
you
know
what
are
we
doing
in
the
local
primary
schools
and
high
schools
in
relation
to
the
education
of
litter
in
general?
AF
I-
and
I
say
that,
on
the
basis
that
in
around
may
june
time
as
a
resident
this
time
in
the
village
of
floral
veil,
I
local
residents
had
set
up
a
letter
pick
and
there's
about
25,
kids
and
numerous
same
amount
of
adults,
and
we
took.
I
took
my
three
kids,
for
example
upper
rural
road,
and
it
was
unbelievable.
The
amount
of
people
who
walked
out
of
the
village
was
their
dogs.
AF
Yes,
they
picked
the
dog
poo
up
in
a
black
small
bag
and
then
threw
it
in
the
hedge
and
the
amount
of
black
bags
that
we
were
pulling
out
of
hedges
and
grass
was
actually
unbelievable,
but
disgraceful.
Now
my
kids
and
other
kids
were
disgusted
and
couldn't
believe
it,
but
they
thoroughly
enjoyed
litter-picking
and
the
felt
that
they'd
done
something
positive
for
their
community
but
couldn't
believe
the
items
that
were
thrown
into
the
hedges,
such
as
dog
furling
bags.
AF
AF
They
pressed
the
button
and
threw
it
out
the
window,
and
we
can
see
it
in
all
our
towns
and
all
our
roads,
and
I
think,
based
on
what
I
had
seen
in
the
litter
pick
myself
personally
and
others
obviously
have
seen
it.
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
see
if
we
could
rule
something
out
of
an
education
level
to
to
show
the
young
ones
at
different
ages
of
the
impact
this
is
having
on
our
community
and
the
cost
that
it's
having,
because
it's
just
got
out
of
control,
but
the
dog
fell
on
itself.
L
L
But
in
addition
to
bringing
wise
along
I'd,
be
keen
that
there's
a
proposal
or
a
paper
brought
to
that
a
workshop
by
officers
to
tell
us
how
they
intend
to
deal
with
litter
and
for
the
removal
of
it
on
the
side
of
the
road.
Sorry,
one
thing
they
started
to
issue
fines,
but
if
they
issue
the
fines
and
the
letters
still
there
we're
we're
no
further
forward.
So
I'd
be.
L
If
alderman
a
motor
is
happy
to
amend
that
proposal,
that
a
discussion
takes
place
about
or
a
proposal
is
brought
forward
as
to
how
that
letter
is
managed.
Like
others,
I
have
seen
a
witness
to
a
a
a
massive
increase
in
the
amount
of
waste
on
our
roads
and
I
think
it's
something
that
we
definitely
need
to
get
a
grasp
of
and
just
in
relation
to
councillor
barry's
comments
about
education,
education's,
brilliant,
but
we
need
some
people
to
go
back
to
school
because
it's
not
just
children.
It's
it's!
R
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
I
would
say
I
just
want
to
come
in
on
a
second
up,
but
council
holland
has
beat
me
to
it,
but
just
in
terms
then
of
the
the
proposal
on
the
night
that
we
have.
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
serious
conversation
on
it's
always
down
to
shift
patterns
that
council
officers
aren't
working.
R
Is
there
any
way
that
chef
patterns
can
be
a
chef
can
be
devised
where
there
are
dog
fighting
wardens
out
early
in
the
morning,
because
ninety
percent
off
dogfighting
occurs
at
that
time
in
the
morning
and
we're
just
messing
up
every
time
and
we've
talked
about
it
time
and
time
again
for
over
10
years,
so
very
happy
to
support
alderman
milton's
proposal,
and
I
would
like
to
see
on
the
night
that
that's
discussed
just
as
a
particular
issue
and
all
that
as
well.
Thank
you.
Q
Thank
you,
lord
mayor.
I
just
wanted
to
say
to
happily
accept
the
amendment
that
councillor
o'hanlon
has
but
no
problem
at
all.
Thank
you.
C
Yep,
okay
numbers,
I
think
going
forward
at
that
meeting.
C
Maybe
in
the
in
the
interim,
you
could
maybe
all
do
a
better
research
and
see
what
other
companies
are
doing,
and
I
know
what
we
ask
a
lot
of
our
officers
to
do
it,
but
if
we
can
bring
sort
of
ideas
to
the
table
as
well,
but
fantastic
to
be
able
to
move
forward
as
other
countries
are
doing
fantastic
work,
you
know
when
you
go
to
countries
in
europe
and
mainland,
it
is
basically
socially
unacceptable,
rather
than
just
the
norm
as
what
we're
seeing,
because
it's
right
across
the
borough,
it's
not
just
isolation.
Q
Thank
you,
lord
mer,
just
to
say
I
thought
we
would
have
had
some
response
from
council
tonight,
whether
that's
the
director,
the
head
of
environmental
services
or
the
chief
executive
we've
talked
for
considerable
period
time.
When
we
see
the
issue
that
this
is
across
the
council,
I
would
have
expected
a
response.
W
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
thank
you
councillors
for
the
comments
this
evening
and
we
will
take
a
note
of
those
and
we'll
action
accordingly
and
bring
back
back
detail,
as
has
been
suggested
by
members
on
those
we.
We
recognize
the
importance
of
of
cleansing
across
the
borough
and
the
matter
of
the
trial
project
there
as
well.
So
I
will
work
with
other
other
colleagues
on
that
will
bring
information
back.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Sean
appreciate
that
so
members
no
more
hands
up.
Are
we
all
agreed
with
the
environmental
service
company
great.
Thank
you
members.
We
want
the
four
point.
Two
can
a
second
proposed
on
sagittarv
at
the
minutes
of
the
leisure
and
community
service
committee
held
on
the
10th
of
january,
be
taken
as
read
and
approved
as
a
council
of
hacking
near
the
chair.
Z
Yes,
I'm
happy
to
propose,
but
I
would
like
you
to
bring
me
back
in
just
on
one
bit
of
accuracy.
Please.
Z
X
Z
Thank
you,
lord
mayor.
It's
item
for
decision,
lcs,
3-20-22,.
Z
It
says,
recommended
on
the
proposal
of
counselor
calls
be
seconded
by
alderman
spears
of
the
process
identified
for
third-party
organizations
hosting
advancement
in
council
parks
and
outdoor
spaces
be
approved
on
the
basis
that
a
quality
screen
be
undertaken
if
deemed
necessary,
and
it
goes
on
for
another
sentence.
But
it's
just
a
matter
of
clarity.
Z
Has
this
been
a
up
between
an
eq
iaa
and
a
quality
screening?
I
was
just
looking
for
keys
now.
The
quality
screening
is
done
anyway
to
see
whether
it
needs
an
impact
assessment.
I
think
it
could
be
just
like
a
a
slight
change
of
wording,
but
it
if
deemed
necessary.
I
would
assume
that
a
quality
screening
is
done
on
all
requests
on
matters
and
then,
if
so
determined
on
a
quality
impact
assessment
is
then
completed.
If
one
of
the
officers
could
just
clarify
that
thanks.
AG
Z
Yeah,
it's
just
in
the
light
of
what
jonathan's
just
confirmed,
and
could
we
just
remove
that
then
the
ragama
decent
says
that
a
quality
screen
will
be
undertaken
if
deemed
necessary.
It's
only
three
words,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
we
that
we
just
demand
that
ensure
there
shouldn't
be
any
really
issue
around
it.
Thank
you.
D
Lord
mayor,
I
just
wanted
to
speak
on.
I
spoke
at
the
meeting
about
it
and
that
was
trotter's
walk
in
tundra
gee
now
I
know,
councilor
barry
is
equally
aware
of
this
and
I
I
mentioned
it
there
and
it
does
need
some
research
as
to
the
the
responsibility
and
all
the
council
does
clean
it.
D
But
the
some
of
the
fences
at
the
back
of
the
houses
are
falling
down
and
people
have
their
own
fences
up,
and
it
is
quite
it's
a
walkway
from
by
and
large
the
top
of
town
brigade
to
the
bottom,
and
no
doubt
I
spoke
to
councillor
barry
about
it
and
he
he
knows
it
quite
well,
and
it
is
a
problem
that
someone
somewhere
in
the
public
sector
needs
to
tackle
it's
a
pathway
that
is
used
extensively
and
it
does
need
a
bit
of
a
tidy
up.
D
It
needs
some
of
the
fences
replaced
or
or
or
whatever,
and
I
I
want
to
see
it
done.
D
I've
had
a
number
of
people
on
I've
actually
walked
it
within
the
last
fortnight
to
see
what
it
was
like,
and
I
must
say
it's
it's
something
that
would
need
a
bit
of
attention
to
it
to
it
now
I
did
refer
to
the
ownership
offered
and
established
in
the
ownership
of
it,
and
I
think
that
has
got
to
be
done,
and
then
we
begin
to
look
at
how
and
how
we
can
improve
it
in,
in
whatever
way,
we're
is
able
or
whatever
way,
we're
able
to
do.
Thank
you.
AF
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
lord
mario,
just
to
agree
with
alderman
spears.
This
dates
back
to
the
old
tanner
g
urban
council
and
closed
up
in
1976,
and
that's
how
far
back
it
goes.
I
know
him
and
I
are
both
too
too
young
to
remember
that.
But
it
goes
back
that
far
at
one
stage
it
had
been
tarmacked
by.
I
think
that
old
council
in
the
in
the
urban
council
time
and
they've
been
street
lights
during
it
and
have
been
repaired
by
the
department
of
infrastructure
over
the
years.
AF
But
there
was
always
sort
of
question
mark
who
would
you
know
repair
the
phantom
of
this
fell
down
on
the
left-hand
side
of
it,
you've
covered
drive
and
richmond,
and
all
of
that
and
people
over
the
years
have
replaced
their
own.
But
there
are
sanctions
down
on
the
right
hand,
side
which
caters
for
the
mount
that
some
people
will
not
replace
because
they
believe
that
it's
not
their
ownership.
AF
C
N
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
it's
in
relation
to
item
lc55
2022
in
relation
to
the
platinum
jubilee
programme
of
events.
Lord
mayor,
the
blood
and
jubilee
will
be
a
momentous
occasion
for
her
majesty
the
queen
and
indeed
for
many
people
within
our
borough
and
that's.
N
Why
alliance
supported
the
original
notice
of
motion
brought
by
the
db
group
in
july
and
for
council
to
develop
a
programme
of
events
and
because
it
is
an
important
part
of
our
cultural
diversity
and
it's
right
that
we
coordinated
programs
with
those
who
wish
to
celebrate
the
jubilee
within
our
community
can't
do
so.
However,
lord
bear
alliance
will
not
be
able
to
support
the
current
proposed
program
on
budget
in
its
current
form.
N
That's
for
a
number
of
reasons,
and
primarily
it's
because
the
budgeting
process
for
the
program
has
been
flawed.
From
the
outset,
the
figure
of
250
000
pounds
was
pulled
by
thin
air
pulled
from
thin
air
by
councilors.
In
a
working
group,
there
was
no
systematic
or
thought
out
budgeting
process.
There
was
no
consideration
of
value
for
money
for
the
ratepayer
and
it's
on
top
of
an
already
committed
20
000
pounds,
fat
expenditure.
N
Taking
the
total
cost
to
270
000
pounds
now,
lord
mayor,
my
understand
is
that
that
amount
is
more
than
five
times
the
spent
on
the
jubilee
that
has
taken
place
in
other
councils
across
northern
ireland,
and
I
think
that
is
an
excessive
and
somewhat
obscene
and
spend
on
a
party
and
celebrations
at
a
time
when
this
organization
faces
huge
financial
pressures
when
we're
emerging
from
a
pandemic
and
when
we're
dealing
and
many
of
our
constituents
are
dealing
with
a
cost
of
living
crisis
and
who
are
struggling
to
heat
and
eat.
N
So,
on
that
basis,
lord
mayor,
I
want
to
propose
an
amendment
to
the
recommendation,
and
that
is
that,
where
it
says
0.2
in
the
recommendation
in
the
notes
and
that
officers
would
return
with
a
significantly
scaled
back
program
of
events
in
the
region
of
50
to
60
000
pounds
and
that
can
be
developed
further
within
the
working
group.
Thank
you.
Lord
mayor.
U
Yes,
lord
mercy,
miss
you,
lord
merlick.
I
did
speak
about
this
a
committee
and
our
party
absolutely
accepts
that
there
are
some
within
our
borough
that
will
legitimately
wish
to
mark
the
jubilee
and
we
have
no
problem
with
them
doing
so.
In
fact,
we
supported
the
twenty
thousand
fox
spain
that
originally
came
to
the
council.
That
would
allow
any
group
that
wishes
to
hold
an
event
to
mark
the
jubilee
to
do
so,
and
we
did
support
that.
U
But
this
additional
spend
that
takes
our
spend
to
well
over
a
quarter
of
a
million
pound
is
nothing
short
of
ludicrous
and
it
won't
sit
well
with
any
right-minded
repair
who,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
lord
mark,
what
the
bill
and
the
suggested
spend
as
it
sits
right
now,
is
completely
detached
from
the
reality
of
the
people
and
that
we
all
tonight
here
represent
food
bank
juices
at
a
peak
where
we
have
our
constituents
living
in
fuel
poverty.
U
I
know
people
rationing,
their
electric
covert,
related
job
losses,
universal
credit
cuts,
and,
on
top
of
that,
as
counselors,
we're
being
told
that
reflection
projects
in
our
own
areas,
that
would
create
jobs.
That
would
give
our
communities
a
a
up
and
that
this
council
doesn't
have
the
money
for
it.
U
The
drum
gore
and
holly
galley
refinanciation
project
can't
go
ahead
because
we
don't
have
the
money,
yet
we
can
go
from
a
20k
spend
to
100
to
250k
spend
and
we
like
batman
island,
I'm
telling
the
communities
I
represent,
that
we
can't
afford
to
give
them
a
play
park.
I'm
telling
young
people
that
we
don't
have
any
initiatives
for
youth
diversionary
projects
and
I'm
telling
people
in
the
rural
area
that
I
represent
that
sorry,
the
community
center,
that
your
your
area
would
thrive
from.
U
We
can't
afford
to
build
it,
and
so
once
we
support
the
20k
fap
program
that
we
initially
started
out
with,
we
cannot
support
and
will
not
support
this
rise
to
nearly
a
quarter
million
pound
and-
and
so
our
party
tonight
would
like
to
revisit
that
decision,
and
we
would
recommend
that
we
refer
back
to
the
twenty
thousand
pound
fat
program
that
was
initially
agreed
by
this
council.
O
Hey,
thank
you,
lord
mer,
and,
of
course,
let's
not
let
the
facts
get
in
the
way
of
a
good
election
broadcast,
because
the
budget,
indeed
is
not
270
000
pounds
and
the
fat
money
is
not
separate
from
the
250
000
pounds.
I
just
checked
with
the
officer
who's
been
dealing
with
this
issue
and
they
are
both
included
in
the
cm.
O
Figure,
however,
were
where
I
think
the
two
parties
that
have
gone
on
their
party
election
broadcasts
out
here
this
evening
actually
come
unstuck.
A
bit
is
that
this
budget
is
already
agreed
and
ratified
through
council
prior
to
tonight.
What
this
is
in
reference
to
is
the
program
that
we
are
currently
working
through,
not
the
actual
budget
spend
that
was
agreed
a
long
time
ago,
or
at
least
two
or
three
meetings
ago.
O
I'm
happy
that
somebody
checked
that,
but
that
decision
was
already
made
and
I
think
the
conversation
started,
maybe
as
far
back
as
september,
so
we're
talking
about
a
program
of
events
here.
O
So
if
those
who
are
so
anxious
about
this
want
to
bring
a
rescind
in
motion,
I'm
happy
to
vote
against
it
at
the
next
council
meeting,
because
councillor
silly
or
sorry
councilor
nelson
can,
if
she
wish,
you
know,
decide
to
say
who
is
and
who
isn't
in
their
right
mind
which,
in
my
own
view,
is
an
appalling
thing
to
say
about
any
constituents,
because
they
may
or
may
not
support
her
majesty
the
queen's
jubilee.
O
I
think
we
need
to
be
careful
with
their
words
in
our
language
and
particularly
in
that
context,
just
because
someone
disagrees
with
somebody
else
on
an
opinion
doesn't
mean
that
they're
not
in
their
right
mind,
and
I
think
that's
important
that
I
would
set
that
out
here
this
evening
and
what
I
will
say
in
relation
to
the
proposed
recommendations
that
we're
about
to
agree
is
that
I
would
have
a
slight
amendment
to
those
and
I
would
make
the
following
amendment
to
that
point.
One.
O
I
would
propose
a
slight
amendment
to
that
point,
one
that
we
that
the
working
group,
if
necessary,
if
sorry
excuse
me,
the
working
group
if
they
deemed
necessary,
would
procure
or
would
approve
the
procurement
of
an
events
company
to
manage
the
major
events
scheduled
for
june.
O
There's
a
lot
more
work
to
be
done
on
this
before
we
run
out
to
procure
events.
Companies
for
these
things
there's
a
lot
more
discussion
to
be
had
in
the
working
group
and
there's
a
lot
more
detail
and
meat
to
be
added
to
the
bones.
So
I
would
suggest
that
we
that
I
would
put
that
to
the
meeting
this
evening,
lord
mayor
and
the
hope
that
we
would
get
agreement
on
that,
and
also
again
just
refer
back
to
those
who
would
say
that
they
would
agree
to.
O
You
know
twenty
thousand
pounds
here
or
there
or
whatever.
I
mean
we're
happy
to
look
at
any
proposals
that
counselor,
nelson
or
others
would
bring
to
the
floor
of
this
chamber
on
any
matters.
We
look
at
those
with
an
open
mind
and
I
suppose
that's
more
than
what
we
can
say
for
sinn
fein
on
issues
like
this,
particularly
given
their
track
record
with
the
northern
arsenie,
the
planting
of
trees
at
storm
at
the
state,
marking
the
queen's
jubilee
and
all
of
those
other
decisions
that
they
have
taken
around
these
events.
O
So
we
certainly
will
take
no
lectures
on
them
and
coming
also
from
a
party
who
supported
an
ira
bombing
campaign
that
wrecked
our
country
and
we're
still
paying
for
for
many
years,
we'll
take
new
lectures
on
how
we
spent
money,
and
indeed
what
we
will
do
is
that
we
will
get
into
june.
We
will
be
in
a
joyous
mood.
O
And
those
constituents
to
come
to
me
about
this
issue
are
excited
about
coming
together
with
their
neighbors
with
their
friends
who
they
have
been
separated
from
for
the
best
part
of
two
years
where
we
have
lost
a
community
cohesion
where
people
have
been
isolated
where
people
have
been
disengaged
and
disenfranchised
from
their
neighbors,
their
friends,
they
haven't
been
able
to
make
contact,
they've
been
socially
distanced,
and
you
know
what
we're
going
to
come
together.
O
We're
going
to
celebrate
this
together
and
we're
going
to
do
it
in
good
mood
and
with,
I
am
sure,
good
voice.
Thank
you.
Lord.
V
Thanks
chair-
and
this
is
in
regards
to
the
previous
issue
around
a
troller's
walk
that
had
been
raised
earlier
there
on
a
remember
of
emails
here
in
front
of
me,
with
a
land
registry
maps
going
back
as
far
emailed
from
a
former
council
official
in
the
old
arama
council
dated
back
to
september
2009,
and
I
suppose,
following
on
from
that
it
is
a
difficult.
It
is
not
a
straightforward
issue
and
I
remember
making
root
service
on
that
out
on
trotters
walk
going
back
some
time
ago,
alderman.
C
V
Well,
I
can
I
can.
I
can
speak
on
the
on
the
current
one,
as
well
as
the
proposer
of
the
motion,
I'm
quite
quite
content
with
councillor
cosby's
proposal.
If
he,
if
that's
what
is
required,
I'm
happy
to
second
that
I
did
make
the
point
at
the
at
the
previous
meeting
that
point
two
of
the
of
the
minute
at
that
stage
did
delay
for
our
further
discussion
around
the
provision
being
made
wholeheartedly
support
and
the
budgetary
allocation.
To
that
there's
an
allocation.
I
mean
it's
not
like.
V
Where
there's
you
know,
200
invoices
sitting
for
you
know
adding
up
to
350
000
pounds
at
this
stage,
so
I
mean
if
it
doesn't
all
need
to
be
spent,
it
won't
be
spent,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
suitable
amount
of
money
there
to
enable
abc
council-
and
I
know
it
will
bring
in
a
lot
of
people
from
outside
the
borough
and
that's
something
that
we
should
also
be
very
we're.
You
know
aware
of.
V
We
are,
you
know,
showcasing
our
borough
and
all
these
situations,
so
it
isn't
just
for
our
own
repairs.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
increase
our
outreach
into
other
parts
of
northern
ireland,
as
we
do
on
many
other
issues
in
terms
of
trade
and
other
community
work.
So
it's
not
simply
an
area
for
abc
residence.
Only.
This
will
be
appealing
to
a
wider
field
right
across
northern
ireland.
V
So
I
would
make
the
point
I
mean
I'm
a
councillor
for
over
15
years
being
a
councillor
for
another
55
odd
years,
or
you
know
it's
it's
just
a
monumental
achievement
and
for
her
majesty
to
give
this
level
of
dedication
to
what
is
amounts
to
public
service
in
the
true
sense
of
the
word
and
I'm
in
awe
of
it.
V
I
would
say-
and
that's
why
I
was
delighted
to
propose
in
motion-
and
I
really
do
hope
we
can
enjoy
a
really
good
series
of
events-
and
I
certainly
am
at
this
stage,
want
again
to
wish
her
majesty
every
good
health
and
god's
richest
blessing
for
the
months
and
weeks
ahead.
Thank
you.
AH
AH
So
in
the
in
considering
maybe
the
need
to
make
progress
and
deliver
a
program
as
it's
agreed,
it
would
make
sense,
in
my
view,
as
an
officer
that
that
events
company
is
procured,
but
that
the
flexibility
is
allowed
to
respond
to
the
work
as
it's
ongoing.
But
it
would
be
concerned
with
regards
to
delays
we're
in
january.
AH
Now,
if
this
program
is
agreed
and
is
a
decision
of
council,
work
will
need
to
be
completed
and
progress
made
so
just
maybe
to
consider
some
of
the
practicalities
around
the
procurement
of
an
events
company,
because
the
resource
is
going
to
be
limited
with
the
range
of
events
that
council
will
be
delivering
at
that
time.
Thank
you.
Lord.
P
Thanks,
lord
mayors,
just
a
second
councilor
tennyson's
amendment.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you,
lord
murder.
It's
the
second
councilor
nelson's
proposal
that
we
don't
proceed
with
the
events.
Obviously,
if
we
don't
proceed
with
the
events,
we
don't
spend
the
money
or
whether
it's
been
approved
at
a
previous
council
meeting
or
not.
This
council,
of
course
be
his
alleged
to
I
mean
nobody
is
opposing
celebrating
this
momentous
occasion.
It
is
certainly
momentous
that
any
monarch
would
rule
for
70
years
is
no
doubt
about
that.
M
Nobody
wishes
to
stand
on
the
way,
but
the
amount
of
money
that
this
council
is
proposing
to
spend
on
this
event
is
just
obscene.
There's
no
getting
away
from
it.
There
will
not
be
one
council
in
england
that
will
spend
anywhere
close
to
ten
percent
of
this
money,
celebrating
the
queen's
platinum
jubilee,
what
we
are
really
doing
to
spend
250
000
pounds
massage
and
unionist
insecurities
about
their
identity.
That's
what
we're
doing
not
celebrating
the
platinum
jubilee.
C
Thank
you
very
much
councillor
michael.
We
have
no
more
speakers
on
this
so
before
we
take
cancer
cosby's
proposal,
I'm
going
to
go
into
a
five
minute
agenda
or
a
five
minute
postponer
for
to
take
some
clarification
on
a
couple
of
matters.
Okay,
so
the
time
is
now
53,
so
we'll
come
back
at
2100
or
200
dollars.
B
C
O
Thank
you,
lord
mer,
and
in
relation
to
the
proposal.
I
suppose
the
issue
was
to
allow
a
bit
of
flexibility
for
the
working
group,
just
in
relation
to
some
of
the
things
that
will
come
through
make
those
decisions.
So
having
had
a
conversation
with
colleagues
in
the
chamber
and
with
officials,
I'm
happy
with
the
recommendation.
O
We
accept
the
recommendation
to
procure
an
events
company
to
manage
the
major
events
scheduled
for
june
2022,
with
some
flexibility
built
into
that
procurement
exercise
and
to
allow
officers
more
freedom
in
relation
to
the
events
that
may
have
come
from
that.
So,
and
that
would
be
the
suggestion.
O
V
O
I
mean
that
we
procure
an
events
company
and
that
we
build
flexibility
into
the
process
so
that
what
we
don't
do,
six
events
and
x
amount
of
pounds
per
budget.
But
what
we
do
is
that
we
procure
an
events
company
but
build
in
potentially
daily
rates,
and
then
we
pre,
then
we
bring
them
in
as
we
need
them
for
the
events,
as
opposed
to
setting
out
a
whole
strand
of
six
events,
I'm
actually
we
only
need
three
or
six
events.
O
We
need
10,
but
we
actually
can
use
the
tender
process
to
allow
the
flexibility
to
do
that.
And
that's
what
I
mean
I'm
happy
if
anybody
else
more
qualified
in
these
matters
wants
to
speak
on
it.
But
that
is
fairly
simple
and
maybe.
C
Okay,
members,
as
we
don't
have
agreement,
we're
going
to
go
to
a
vote
so
on.
Mr
cosby's
proposal
accept
the
recommendation
and
build
in
flexibility
within
the
procurement
alderman
anderson,
yes,
no
or
obscene.
AG
AE
C
X
Z
J
G
C
Q
Y
B
C
AD
X
J
C
Sorry
country
nicholson
at
at
close
chapter
for
the
photon.
Can
you
can
you
hear
me
lord?
Yes,
I
can
hear
you
now
but
sorry
we
had.
We
have
closed
voting.
Okay,.
C
We'll
get
you
at
50p
for
the
meter,
okay,
so
voting
kali
is
yes
yet
21.
No
yet
so
the
proposal
goes
through
and
the
other
two
proposals
fall.
AD
Yes,
thank
you.
Lord
murr,
lord
mark,
it's
in
relation
to
south
lake
leisure
center,
and
I
and
my
colleagues
have
been
contacted
by
quite
a
few
constituents
with
regards
to
extending
the
hours
of
the
gym
within
the
south
lake
leisure
center
and
management
are
aware
of
it,
and
I
just
I
wanted
to
ask
that
feedback
is
brought
back
on
the
request
that
reports
brought
back
to
our
march
committee
meeting
for
for
consideration
with
regards
to
and
looking
at
these
extended
hours,
and
that's
all
I
just
wanted
to
ask.
Thank
you.
U
C
U
Thank
you
very
much,
lord
mayor
and
lord
mayor.
It's
around
the
use
of
the
gym
by
under
16
and
members
will
be
aware
at
the
minutes
that,
if
you're
under
16
in
the
evening,
you
cannot
use
our
gem
without
an
adult
present,
and
I
understand
the
health
and
safety
reasons
behind
that.
However,
I
I
would
really
ask
that
we
look
and
review
that,
for
a
number
of
reasons
I
have
had
in
the
last
sort
of
three
to
four
weeks.
U
Three
different
calls
from
parents
of
teenagers
who
have
been
put
out
of
the
gym
in
the
evening
for
no
other
reason
than
their
age.
Now,
if
they
were
misbehaving
or
doing
anything
that
was
of
concern
for
health
and
safety,
then
I
would
understand
that,
but
they
absolutely
weren't
on
friday
night
four
teenagers
and
were
frog,
marched
out
of
the
the
gym
as
well,
and
it
was
very
embarrassing
for
the
four
young
people
involved
again
not
up
to
any
behavior,
not
even
working
out
together,
working
out
separately,
but
simply
put
out
because
of
their
age.
U
I
I
really
know
I
see
flaws
in
it,
so
I
have
raised
this
with
center
management
and
there
was
a
thought
that
they
might
bring
bring
it
bring
this
forward
as
part
of
their
april
review.
But
I
would
actually
ask
that
we
look
at
it
sooner
than
that
with
a
few
two.
Even
if
we
say
three
nights
a
week,
three
specific
nights
a
week
under
six
teens
can
attend
the
gym
and
later
into
the
evening,
because
I
do
know
that
it
can
require
an
additional
staffing.
U
C
P
Thank
you,
lord
mayor.
Well,
it
was
to
come
in
and
second
that
that
the
good
proposal
are
from
country
nelson.
It
is
something
I've
had
a
couple
of
queries
about
recently.
I
don't
know
whether
it's
something
that
has
been
sort
of
more
rigorously
enforced
in
recent
weeks
or
months,
because
certainly
this
doesn't
seem
to
be
an
issue
and
one
issue
with
it
as
well
is
that
it
doesn't
seem
to
be
well
advertised.
P
I
understand
that
there
was
some
a
small
notice
as
you
went
into
the
gym,
but
there
was
nothing
on
the
council
website
following
query
for
myself,
understand
that
it's
now
on
the
council
website
as
an
information
point.
But
again
it's
it's
not
too
clear,
and
maybe
there
is
some
additional
advertising
going
on
at
the
actual
entrance
to
the
gym
itself,
but
I
think
you
know
councilor
nelson's
right
and
such
as
boys,
it's
young,
it's
young
girls
and
young
women
as
well.
P
Who
are
you
know
that
social
element
of
going
to
the
gym
and
working
out
with
her
friends?
And
then
I
know
there
are
certain
requirements
to
go
on
the
the
you
know:
the
left
weights
and
things,
but
they're
certainly
definitely
the
possibilities
in
the
cardio
section.
So
what's
you
know
support
having
a
wider
look
at
this
and
association
with
similarly
the
proposal
from
counselor
intensely
about
opening
times?
P
Well,
not
you
know,
we've
got
a
couple
of
months
in
so
we
could
have
that
sort
of
weather
review
and
make
sure
you
know
we
want
as
many
people
using
the
gym
as
possible
and
living
healthy,
active
lifestyles,
and
if
young
people
want
to
go
and
use
our
you
know
health
and
well-being,
equipment
and
facilities.
I
think
we
should
be
all
in
favor
of
that,
but
certainly
very
happy
to
support
this.
This
request
from
councillor
nelson
here
tonight.
C
W
R
Was
actually
we're
just
going
to
second
that
as
well
yeah?
This
is
something
we
should
be
encouraging
young
people
to
get
into
the
gym,
because
these
are
going
to
be
our
members.
You
know,
probably,
hopefully,
lifelong
members
are
certainly
into
the
future,
so
I
think
we
should
actually
be
actively
encouraging
encouraging
to
come
so
the
sooner
we
can
do
that.
Surely
we
can
do
that
process,
the
better,
not
one
who
frequented
jim
very
often,
I
wasn't
aware
of
that
particular
thing
was
talking
to
nephew.
R
He
he
goes
to
the
gym
six
days
a
week
and
he
actually
his
gym
is
24
hours,
20
open,
24
hours,
I'm
not
suggesting
we
do
that
for
one
second,
because
I
can't
think
anything
worse.
I
get
up
at
four
o'clock
in
the
morning
to
go
to
the
gym,
but
there
are
those
that
are
that
did,
and
you
know
we
have
the
we
have
one
that
we
have
probably
have
the
best
gym
here
in
the
whole
company,
so
we
should
be
actively
promoted,
I'm
assuming
these
teenagers,
like
they're
paying
for
the
service.
V
Yeah
thanks,
sir
I'll,
have
a
brief.
It
was
just
a
an
issue
that
was
brought
to
my
attention
today
and
it's
on
the
leisure
theme
on
in
reference
to
gosford.
I
know
with
a
good
system
there
for
the
caravans
and
that
went
live
again
today
and
it
crashed
quite
quickly
afterwards,
but
and
it's
just
a
new
had
a
lot
of
calls
about
that.
V
I
don't
know
what
our
counselors
had
as
well
and
from
right
as
far
as
drew
moore
and
that
from
people
want
to
to
book
into
gosford,
there
seemed
to
be
an
issue,
basically
simply
due
to
the
the
volume
of
traffic
on
the
website
and
chatting
to
the
guys
at
gosford.
They
were
saying
in
any
one
minute
period
there
could
have
been
500
people
trying
to
to
access
the
site
on
and
make
bookings,
and
that
resulted
in
a
crashing
and
a
lengthy
conversation
with
philip
in
gosford
there
this
evening.
V
So
he's
pretty
content
that
he'll
they'll
be
getting
stuck
back
into
in
the
morning
again,
and
I
know
a
few
people
were
having
issues
in
terms
of
payments
and
not
being
completely
sure
that
a
payment
was
taken
or
sure
that
a
payment
was
taken,
but
not
completely
sure
that
the
booking
was
was
made.
So
it's
just.
V
If
we
could,
you
know
drill
down
into
that
tomorrow
and
ensure
that
people
are
responding
to
as
quickly
as
possible
and
just
at
any
uncertainty
for
them,
because
we
know
we're
a
nation
of
online
activists
in
terms
of
our
consumerism.
So
I
know,
there's
always
a
wee
bit
of
anxiety
when
you're,
making
an
online
transaction
and
you're
not
completely
sure
that
that
transaction
has
worked.
It
does
cause
a
wee
bit
of
concern
so
on
the
back.
V
A
lot
of
would
just
if
some
extra
resources
needed
just
to
to
get
us
over
this
little
blip
and,
of
course,
it's
a
blip
of
a
success
in
terms
of
the
the
magnet
that
is
gosford
on
a
wood
for
this
period.
Maybe
if
directors
could
allow
some
extra
resource
if
it's
needed,
I'm
not
saying
it
is,
but
I
don't
want
the
guys
down
there
being
swamped
trying
to
resolve
technical
problems
that
if
there
are
others
in
council
who
maybe
could
help
resolve
that
and
let
those
guys
get
to
all
their
duties.
V
So
if
that
is
possible-
and
it
was
just
to
get
it
on
on
the
minute
tonight
and
just
give
people
an
assurance
that
council
are
actively
working
towards
that
and
that's
coming
from
the
guys
in
gosford,
the
actual
brick
and
company.
I
guess
anytime
book
and
said:
they've
never
seen
the
lake
of
it
and
they
handle
a
lot
of
beacons
right
across
the
uk
for
forest
parks
and
they're
wondering
what's
in
the
water
down
in
gloucester,
because
it
seems
to
be
very
very
appealing
from
their
end.
But
again
they
apologize.
V
They
just
never
seen
the
like
of
it
in
terms
of
volume
of
traffic
on
the
website.
But
I
suppose
the
other
flip
side
is
a
website
needs
to
work
and
I'm
sure
we're
paying
the
company
to
host
that.
So,
just
if
it
can
be
resolved
on
information
and
information
is
key
in
this
that
that's
got
out
to
people
as
quickly
as
possible.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
update.
Alderman
officers
will
take
that
on
board
and
try
and
get
that
that's
resolved
as
soon
as
possible
and
counselor
michael
and
then
on
in
councillor
tensley.
G
Thank
you,
lord
mer,
and
again
it's
just
a
quick
note
in
relation
to
oxford
island
and
again,
I'm
raising
the
issue
of
toilet
provision.
I'm
fed
up
raising
it,
but
look.
The
new
player
park
is
ready
for
ruben.
I
think
this
weekend
we
have
four
or
five
containers
sitting
down
at
the
edge
of
the
south
lake
leisure
center.
Toilet
facility's
not
been
used,
and
can
I
ask
maybe
those
that
brought
dry
docks
for
them
to
accommodate
the
toilet
facilities
for
the
people?
G
That's
going
to
visit
the
park
over
the
coming
weeks
and
months
ahead.
The
discovery
center
is
not
adequate
to
accommodate
the
large
crowds
that
will
be
at
the
end,
the
the
new
player
park.
So
there
is
containers
sitting
down
behind
us
here
in
our
with
toilet
facilities
in
them
not
been
used
and
they
could
be
used
in
the
dark.
G
C
Thank
you,
counselor
and
I'll
get
the
officers
to
look
at
that
tomorrow
morning.
Cancer
tensley,
yes,.
AD
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
if
councillor
michael
linton's
request
requires
a
secondary,
I'm
quite
happy
to
second
that,
and
but
what
I
was
actually
asking
for
to
come
back
in
on
was
what
counselor
nelson
raised
has
really
is
something
I
was
totally
unaware
of,
and-
and
I
would
like
we
point
to
clarity,
because
when
counselor
nelson
was
talking
about,
she
was
talking
about
in
the
evenings.
AD
AG
Thank
you
chur.
Thank
you,
sir.
Yes,
just
in
relation
to
the
numbers
queries,
yes,
we
we
do
allow.
There
are
certain
periods
within
the
day
whenever
under
16s
can
come
into
the
gym
and
then
there's
other
times
whenever
they're,
accompanied
by
adults.
Just
in
relation
to
the
members
query,
we
will
take
a
report
back
through
the
fabric
committee,
sat
in
the
site
in
much
more
detail,
and
then
that
will
be
up
to
mavericks
in
relation
to
making
the
decision
regarding
that
matter.
AD
AG
AG
O
Thank
you,
lord
mer.
We
wanted
actually
just
to
address
two
points,
one,
it's
it's
nice,
somebody
else's
raisin
toilets
in
the
chamber
of
the
night
other
than
country
flower.
They
for
a
change,
but
I
do
just
want
to
put
on
the
record
my
frustration
that
eden
villa
which
is
a
very
busy
facility
is
not
having
or
being
the
users
of
the
officer
they're
not
being
provided
with
adequate
provision
at
this
point
in
time
at
all,
and
that,
in
my
view,
is
totally
unacceptable.
O
It's
an
unacceptable
position
for
the
council
to
take,
and
I
think
we
need
to
address
that
point
fairly
urgently.
I
guess
country
pinsie
did
raise
one
of
the
thoughts
in
my
mind.
I
took
I'm
actually
quite
astounded
that
we
would
not
be
permitting
under-16s
into
one
of
our
facilities.
You
know
unaccompanied.
O
That
is
bizarre
to
me
and
I
don't
know
if
they
can
get
onto
a
bus
and
use
public
transport
and
a
whole
raft
of
other
things,
but
yet
we
let
them
into
our
gym.
O
I
appreciate
their
equipment
in
there
and
whatever
else,
but
surely
if
the
requirement
would
be
very
simple,
that
they
must
do
an
induction
into
the
gym
they're
using
it
safely,
they
know
how
to
use
the
the
equipment
that
can
be
rectified,
but
my
issue
is
actually
one
of
safeguarding
and
insurance
and
I
think
that
they
should
be
included
as
considerations
in
the
report.
O
I
also
would
be
keen
to
get
an
understanding
of
who
made
that
decision
and
why
that
decision
was
made
and
why
it's
okay
at
some
parts
of
the
day
and
why
it's
not
okay,
okay
at
other
parts
of
the
day,
because
if
there's
a
safeguarding
issue
in
the
evening
well,
the
issue
won't
be
any
different.
I
would
imagine
during
the
day,
so
I
would
be
a
wee
bit
concerned
that
we
are
in
this
position
in
relation
to
that
and
as
one
who
uses
the
gem
on
a
fairly
regular
basis.
O
You
know
I
have.
The
experience
I
have
had
in
the
gym
has
always
been
a
really
positive
one,
with
no
issues
being
raised
with
me
or
have
I
witnessed
or
seen
any
and
at
times
the
gym
is
extremely
busy
and
it
is
encouraging
to
see
so
many
people
from
across
the
age
range
is
using
it,
but
also
so
many
young
people
using
it
with
their
friends
and
that's,
I
think,
that's
really
important.
O
Z
Thank
you,
lord
mayor
and
I'll,
be
as
brief
as
possible.
I
think
you're
managing
a
really
difficult
meeting
tonight.
There's
quite
a
lot
has
come
out,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
the
point
councillor.
Nelson
are
kind,
sir
magalin,
sorry
as
rio's
toilets
at
oxford
island
and
on
subsequent
countries.
We've
made
comments
about
the
lack
of
facilities
in
their
areas.
Z
I
always
find
this
fascinating,
because
the
player
strategy
by
our
own
council
states
clearly
around
some
of
our
some
of
our
obligations
and
as
a
representative
of
lerguin,
I'm
always
flabbergasted
to
see
that
on
our
own
policy
says
that
as
a
district
play
a
part,
we
should
have
district
facilities
logan
park,
the
anybody
that
uses
it
is
known
far
and
wide
as
one
of
the
worst
provisions
for
toilets.
God
forbid,
you
should
have
children
in
that
park.
Z
I
need
to
use
the
bathroom
with
them,
because
you
can
run
one
directional
to
be
locked,
run
the
other
direction,
nobody
lands
to
the
door.
It
is
shocking
to
say
the
least,
and
this
council
has
failed
tim
and
hemingham,
not
not
just
on
that
issue,
but
by
their
own
standards
in
their
own
place
strategy.
So
if
we're
going
to
have
a
debate
about
toilets
and
facilities
across
the
board,
I
think
we'd
probably
need
to
look
at
it
in
a
broader
sense,
because
even
by
our
own
standards
we're
not
fulfilling
our
obligations
to
our
constituents.
C
Thank
you
again.
Maybe
we
can
have
that
debate
in
the
committee
whenever
it
comes
around
again.
Okay,
so
with
no
more
lights
on,
can
I
get
confirmation,
counsel,
hugging?
You
said
about
the
amendment
or
the
bit
that
you
wanted
to
know.
Can
you
just
reword
that
again
it
was
a
long.
Z
Z
Yeah
so
and
they
recommended
so
it's
lcs.
Z
3
2022
on
in
the
recommended
section,
it's
just
the
three
words
f
deemed
necessary
as
it
was
clarified
that
that
is
necessary.
C
No
problem,
thank
you
and
we
all
agreed.
Thank
you
all
great
yep.
Thank
you
very
much
members.
We
won
the
agenda
item
4.3.
Can
you
seek
a
proposal
on
secondary
for
the
minutes?
League
economic
development
and
regeneration
committee
held
on
the
11th
of
january
22
be
taking
israel
approved
as
a
correct
record
councillor
mclendon
you're,
the
chair
of
committee,
so.
X
AC
Yes,
lord
mayor
and
thank
you
for
letting
me
in
hey.
It
was
just
to
make
a
comment
under
edr,
05
2022,
and
I
note
that
that
that
empty
to
occupy
was
was
referenced
as
an
item
that
had
been
discussed
on
the
night,
and
it
was
just
basically
to
welcome
the
fact
that
the
current
empty
to
occupy
scheme
has
moved
on
to
the
next
phase
and
certainly
over
this
last
couple
of
years
on
council.
AC
It's
it's
something
that
I
have
raised,
often
with
officers
and
it's
good
that
it
has
moved
on
and
it,
but
because
I
think
that
it
has
a
very
important
part
to
play
in
terms
of
the
economic
regeneration
as
we
come
out
of
the
pandemic.
So
it's
just
to
congratulate
the
officers
concerned.
Thank
you.
Lord
mayor.
C
C
AI
Report.
Thank
you,
lord
mayor
members.
This
report,
as
the
lord
mayor
has
said,
is
about
as
a
response
to
the
call
for
evidence
in
the
northern
ireland
district
council's
remote
hybrid
meetings,
consultation
currently
out
at
the
moment
from
the
department
for
communities.
AI
In
relation
to
the
call
for
evidence
members,
you
may
recall
that
there
were
some
divergent
views
on
in
terms
of
the
call
for
evidence
at
the
committee
meeting
and
the
appendix
reflect
this
to
some
extent
and
strong
points
were
made
both
in
support
of
and
kind
of,
in
caution
about
having
a
permanent
access
to
remote
meetings,
which
is
what
the
call
for
evidence
is
about.
AI
So
members,
in
addition
to
the
the
appendix
that's
there
within
the
body
of
the
report,
that
it
has
been
proposed
that
we
would
add
some
narrative
by
means
of
a
preface
to
the
council's
response,
it
basically
sets
out
at
a
high
level
some
of
the
advantages
and
disadvantages
which
members
have
highlighted
with
respect
to
the
operation
of
remote
and
hybrid
meetings.
So
members,
both
the
comments
and
the
covering
report
and
the
appendix
are
there
for
your
consideration
and
the
recommendation
is
that
members
approve
the
response
to
the
call
for
evidence.
AI
C
I
Lord
byron,
thank
you.
Sharon
yeah.
I
probably
agree
with
the
draft
response.
I
would
propose
that
with
one
small
amendment
just
in
question
one,
I
think
that
we've
seen
that
you
know
that
remote
or
hybrid
meetings
work
well,
you
know,
rather
than
the
more
neutral
on
that
greater
flexibility,
environmental
advantages
of
reduced
travel,
cost
reduction
and
a
better
attendance
as
well.
So
I
don't
think
we
should.
You
know,
remove
this
possibility
from
future.
So
thank
you.
R
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
I
don't
sit
on
the
committee.
Thankfully,
I'm
weren't
going
to
open
up
the
debate
or
party
group
leaders,
but
it
didn't
get
opened
up
and
I
wasn't
going
to
open
up
tonight,
but
then
council
folks
just
came
in
and
said
it
worked
well
yet,
but
seeing
tonight
that
quite
obviously
doesn't
work.
Well,
just
phone
character
nicholson
and
ask
him.
R
He
couldn't
even
come
in
to
do
a
vote
and
you
know
so
it's
probably
not
working
well
in
these
forums
but
in
terms
of
you
know
the
likes
of
party
group
leaders,
as
I
mentioned
in
wednesday
night,
you
know
that's
a
great
forum
for
a
zoom
making.
You
know
I
might
as
well
go
on
to
zoom
and
set
for
five
or
six
of
my
colleagues
across
the
chamber
and
the
chief
executive
and
a
few
of
the
directors
as
opposed
to
driving
the
arma
from
donna
clooney.
That
makes
sense
this
forum
people
sitting
at
home.
R
You
know
when
you
call
me
on
this
big.
It
takes
25
seconds
to
get
your
face
on
the
screen.
If
you
speak
to
your
eddie
that
look
at
home,
don't
hear
you,
and
this
is-
we've
cut
an
edge
technology
here.
This
is
probably
one
of
the
best
chambers,
if
not
the
best
chamber
in
the
company
for
technology
are
not
working,
and
anybody
says
that
it
is
working
has
been
economical
with
the
truth.
But
anyway
I
said
I
wasn't
going
to
open
up
debate
I've
known
today,
so
I
want
to
do
one.
R
Can
I
ask
that
we
review
them
the
chamber
and
and
how
many
folk
we
can
get
in
in
next
month,
because
I
had
to
turn
my
own
members
away
tonight,
because
we
only
had
five
and
yet,
when
you
look
down,
you
see
all
the
empty
seats.
It's
really
really
really
frustrating,
especially
when
members
are
at
my
party
anyway,
certainly
are
very
keen
to
get
back
into
the
chamber.
So
if
we.
R
Even
for
you
know,
the
next
meeting,
because
we
can
certainly
have
more
people
in
the
chamber
than
we
have
currently
especially
in
restrictions,
leaves
possibly
on
the
26th
and
then
I
think
10th
of
february
is
the
next
review
we're
not
working
from
home.
I
think
things
going
out
the
window
all
together
and
that's
the
the
the
feedback
we're
getting
from
stormwind
anyway.
R
So
if
that
happens,
then
I
would
like
to
think
that
all
members
that
are
elected
to
this
chamber
will
come
to
the
chamber
and
we're
going
to
have
our
maintenance,
and
I
just
want
to
make
those
quick
points.
Thank
you.
V
Yeah
thanks,
I
suppose
it's
just
on
the
on
the
wider
point
of
the
of
the
call
for
evidence.
I
did
take
the
time
and
filled
it
in
and
myself
independently,
and
I
would
encourage
everybody
to
do
to
do
the
same.
V
It
is
worthwhile
process
and
I
have
my
views
on
it
and
I
suppose
the
only
way
the
departments
are
going
to
get
that
view
is,
if
you
tell
them
so
I
know,
there's
a
divergence
of
views
within
the
council,
but
you
have
the
option
to
fully
inform
the
department
what
your
individual
views
are
and
that's
that's
what
I
have
did,
but
the
other
point
oliver
baxter
has
raised,
and
that
is
I
was
one
of
the
ones
who
would
have
liked
to
be
in
the
chamber
tonight,
and
I
really
just
don't
understand,
but
there
being
so
many
empty
seats,
why
I
can't
simply
be
permitted
or
if
it
exceeds
five,
why
it
just
seems
bizarre
that
you
aren't
permitted
to
come
into
the
council.
V
Yet
on
a
plan
committee
meeting
you
know
we
have
quite
a
great
number
of,
in
fact
all
or
most
of
the
the
membership
of
the
planning
committee.
Some
14
of
us,
plus
administrative
staff
plus
planners,
are
in
the
chamber
for
that.
So
there's
glaring
inconsistencies
in
terms
of
the
operation
of
this
in
a
fully
understand
way.
Some
people
aren't
there,
I'm
not
there.
I
mean
tonight,
but
I
would
like
to
be
there
in
person.
V
At
one
point
it
did
make
in
my
submission
was
the
loss
of
a
lot
of
the
interaction
between
counselors.
I
think
that
has
greatly
been
missed
and
a
lot
of
things
can
be
spoken
about.
A
lot
of
conversations
can
be
had.
I
think
we've
lost
a
lot
of
the
of
the
community
of
the
council
in
that
regard,
and
that's
not
a
good
thing.
I
don't
think
it
elongates
things
things
that
could
easily
be
resolved
or
discussed
in
in
in
short
breaks
as
we've
had
tonight.
V
You
know
you're
sort
of
just
on
you,
you
stop
your
video
and
on
your
webinars,
starting
again
you've
none
of
that
in
direction,
and
I
think
we
are
really
missing
that
and
and
planning
committees
on
the
one
committee
I
fully
enjoy
because
we're
all
there,
the
interaction's
good
and
the
discussions
and
the
debates
are
good
and
we
we
realize
what
we're
missing
by
in
the
remote
and
I
know
remote,
has
been
particularly
useful
during
the
restrictions
but
as
those
ease,
I
think
we
do.
V
We
do
have
to
to
get
back
and
you
know
restore
our
democracy
if
you
like.
I
think
that's
important,
but
it's
my
view.
I
fully
aware
of
that.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
all
the
one
that
can
tell
you
the
craigslist
in
here
you're
missing
it
just
just
just
to
make
us
aware.
Members
has
been
two
years
in
february
that
we've
had
a
full
council
meeting.
So
we've
we're
going
well
here,
I'm
going
to
bring
in
councillor
cosby.
Please.
O
Thank
you,
lord
mer,
and
maybe
in
february,
when
we're
setting
the
rates,
everybody
might
make
the
effort
when
the
restrictions
are
lifted,
to
come
and
sit
in
this
chamber
as
we're
all
elected
to
do,
but
a,
I
suppose,
just
in
relation
to
some
of
the
points
that
have
already
been
addressed
just
to
say
and
listen
as
a
very
arbitrary
exercise.
This
evening
I
took
the
time
17
minutes
actually
to
record
the
length
of
the
two
votes
that
we
have
had
to
take
in
this
chamber
this
evening.
O
17
minutes
for
two
votes
which
in
normal
circumstances,
take
us
about
60
seconds
90
seconds
each
when
we
all
sit
in
here
and
press
buttons,
and
I
think
it
is
now
farcical
that
we
get
to
a
situation
where,
as
full
council
and
of
course,
there
might
be
appropriate
reasons
why
we
would
have
remote
meetings
and
that's
perfectly
fine
periods
of
inclement
weather
or
you
know,
par
cuts
and
somebody's
constituency
or
whatever
else
we're
dealing
with
some
difficult
issues.
O
There
might
be
various
reasons
why
we
would
have
remote
meetings,
but
for
sure,
there's
no
reason
why
our
committee
standing
committees
and
our
full
setting
of
this
council
cannot
be
here.
O
It
is
important,
camaraderie
across
the
chamber
whether
we
agree
whether
we
disagree
shortnight
issues,
amendments
all
of
those
things
that
has
been
lost
and
the
meetings
are,
you
know
prolonged
significantly,
and
that
means
that
officers
who
we
expect
by
the
way
elected
members
to
come
in
here
to
facilitate
these
meetings,
and
if
we
expect
the
officers
to
come
here
and
facilitate
some
of
these
meetings,
we
should
be
sitting
here
ourselves
and
I
think
that's
really
important
as
well,
because
our
officers
will
start
and
we're
possible
to
get
back
in
to
workplace.
O
We
want
to
get
things
moving
again.
We
want
to
catch
up
on
some
of
the
backlogs
and
some
of
those
issues
and
in
this
place
I
think
it's
good
that
we
have
the
interaction
with
our
officers,
because
it's
really
important
that
we
do
meet
them
on
a
regular
basis,
and
this
is
one
of
the
ways
that
we
get
a
chance
to
do
that.
So
you
know
what
I
what
country
pope
has
alluded
to
is
that
he
thinks
they
work
very
well.
O
I
think
sharon
you're
very
diplomatic
in
your
assessment
of
how
the
discussion
occurred,
differing
views.
There
were
certainly
those
on
opinions
at
the
governance
committee
and
the
question
one
you
have
just
ticked,
neither
well
nor
poorly
and
in
relation
to
generally
speaking,
how
well
they
consider
the
current
remote
meetings
or
the
interest
work.
Okay,
that
is
the
council
response,
we're
not
going
to
get
agreement
either
way.
O
I
think
anybody
can
read
between
the
lanes
or
not,
but
again
I
think
you
know
we
wouldn't
be
in
agreement
with
country
poker,
say
they
work.
O
Well,
all
the
time
we
have
seen
this
evening,
the
disasters
that
can
happen
it's
on
totally
unfair
by
the
way
the
country
nicholson
didn't
get
his
vote
this
evening
because
he
has
been
denied
effectively
his
voice
on
on
a
key
issue
in
this
chamber,
and
it
is
because
of
the
technology
not
working
had
he
been
here
and
had
he
had
been
able
to
come
in
then
he
would
have
had
his
vote,
and
that
is,
you
know
unfortunate
for
him.
O
This
evening
and
unfair,
so
let's
get
back
into
this
place
and
get
back
to
work
back
to
our
desks.
The
right
and
proper
order
where
we
elected
in
2019.
C
Thank
you
very
much
cancer
councillor,
holland
on
council
lobby,
I'm
not
too
sure
which
one
of
yous
had
was
in
first.
So
thank
potential
holland.
You
want
to
go
first,
yeah
go
ahead.
L
Thank
you,
lord
mayor.
I
don't
think
the
consultation
asks
a
does.
Every
meeting
have
to
be
held
remotely,
it's
asking:
what
was
our
views
of
the
capabilities
and
was
asked?
Would
we
like
to
keep
them,
and
I
think
it's?
Yes,
the
reason
being
because
I
think
they
offer
us
a
the
new
norm
and
let's
face
it.
This
is
the
way
things
are
in
the
world
of
work
and
the
world
in
the
world
of
business
and
and
even
in
the
world
of
education
where
children
are
young.
L
People
at
university
can
still
dial
in
that
at
lectures
and
be
able
to
take
part
in
in
lectures.
But
look
the
meeting
at
or
the
at
governance
has
got
a
bit
hated,
but
I
know
some
of
those
people
have
apologized
and
we've
moved
on.
I
think
what
a
sharon
has
a
articulated
is
a
quite
a
quite
correct.
L
I'm
happy
to
second
counselor
pope's,
a
slight
amendment
to
that,
but
let's
not
kid
herself
think
of
the
tens
of
thousands
of
pounds
that
we
have
saved
over
the
last
two
years
in
mileage
for
for
members
attending
the
maintenance
I
for
one,
for
example
a
member
of
the
city,
the
midwest
city
day.
L
So
if
I
was
to
drive
to
emma
skillin
for
a
40-minute
meeting
that
doesn't
make
sense,
never
mind
the
environmental
impact
of
that,
but
also
in
relation
to
a
how
many
of
us
now
have
two
and
maybe
three
meetings
a
night
when
you
can
do
that
and
via
this
platform.
So
I
think
this
platform
has
its
place.
I'm
not
saying
that
every
meeting
needs
to
be
all
on
zoom
and
I
don't
think
that's
what
the
question
is
being
asked.
The
question
has
been
asked:
do
we
want
to
retain
that
flexibility?
L
And
I
I
believe
the
answer
should
and
must
be.
Yes,
we
had
a
discussion
earlier
on
tonight
about
the
the
death
of
ashley
murphy,
but
we
how
many
times
do
we
talk
about
trying
to
make
politics
more
open
and
friendly
for
young
people
and
particularly
young
mothers?
L
There
are
some
on
this
call
and
who
have
been
there
before
who
went
on
maternity
leave
and
can't
cannot
come
into
a
chamber.
They're
not
given
the
right
to
have
maternity
leave
and
working
through
this
forum
allows
them
to
continue
to
represent
constituents,
attend
maintenance
and
still
look
after
baby
at
home.
I
don't
believe
that
I
I
believe
that
by
retaining
this
process,
it
allows
us
to
have
that
flexibility.
L
Some
meetings
can
be
held,
a
hybrid
some
meetings
can
be
held
in
person
and,
yes,
everybody
likes
to
get
back
to
the
chamber
and
have
the
camaraderie.
But
to
be
honest,
sometimes,
whenever
you're
in
the
chamber,
you
don't
see
much
camaraderie,
it's
mud
slinging,
and
maybe,
whenever
everybody
is
back
in
the
chamber,
everybody
a
bit
better
behaved.
C
P
Thank
you,
lord
man,
I'm
going
to
try
and
stay
on
the
best
behavior
here
at
what
was
going
to
come
in
and
the
second
that
you
know
the
amendment
there
from
councillor
pope
and
as
kaiser
hanlon
said
it's
not
about
forcing
people
to
stay
at
home.
It's
about
trying
to
facilitate
hybrid
meetings
potentially
and
to
maximize
flexibility
and
improve
transparency
and
everything
and
all
the
rest
of
that
cancer.
P
Pope
imagine,
but
they
do
want
to
highlight
one
issue
and
as
cancer
brought
it
up,
that's
about
the
race
and
it's
projected
as
members
and
estimates
meeting
with
last
week
was
saying.
If
we
continue
with
hybrid
and
remote
meeting,
that's
going
to
save
approximately
fifty
thousand
pounds
per
year.
Members,
that's
rate
pairs,
money
stand
in
repairs
pockets
rather
than
going
into
the
pockets
of
elected
members
through
generous
mileage
dispensers,
or
indeed
lay
elected
members
bellies
go
on
to
free
dinners.
P
I
remember
the
days
before
at
hybrid
meetings
when
he
could
have
been
getting
two
or
three
dinners
a
week
for
free
with
all
the
committees
and
working
groups,
and
it
was
was
wowed.
It
shouldn't
have
been
happening
and
I
think
the
savings
that
will
certainly
bank
from
going
from
this
hybrid
maintenance
will
be
welcomed
by
the
red
pair.
So
I
disagree
with
that
with
councillor
cosby
words
and
his
dep
party
colleagues
that
don't
seem
to
matter
mine
too
much
spent
money
when's
being
spent
themselves.
P
D
D
I
honestly
believe
that
council
is
intended
to
be
really
within
the
chamber
in
the
normal
society
in
a
normal
way,
and
I
I
think
that
there
was
no
one
ever
thought
that
we
would
automatically
move
to
a
from
physical
presence
to
every
meeting
under
zoom,
but
we
have
operating
it
and
truthfully
it
has
operated
a
in
my
opinion
quite
well,
and
I
have
no
particular
problem
with
it.
But
I
don't
think
in
the
longer
term
that
it
is
for
real.
D
I
think
that
we
will
be
back
in
in
the
chamber,
possibly
committees
back
in
the
chamber,
but
the
our
standing
orders-
I
I
suspect,
are
going
to
have
to
have
some
reflection
of
of
of
where
we
are.
If
we
intend
to
continue
because,
as
countrymen
made
the
point
about
traveling
than
a
skill,
there
have
been
working
parties
and
working
groups.
D
In
all
honesty,
I
believe
if
one
reflects
back
on
the
attendance
at
some
of
them-
and
it
wasn't
the
best-
and
I
honestly
believe
that
in
future
for
such
working
groups
or
whatever
I
think
it,
it
does
present
an
opportunity
for
a
greater
input
with
a
greater
number
of
people,
because,
as
I
said
earlier,
the
if
you
look
back
at
how
many
attended
work
and
group
I
work
on
party
groups.
It
was
a
relatively
small
representation
on
a
lot
of
occasions.
D
So
I
think
there
is
a
place
for
for
zoom
to
continue
in,
in
the
wider
sense,
in
work
on
parties
and
on
on
special
committees
or
area
group
committees
or
or
whatever.
I.
I
don't
think
that
it
is
wise
to
restrict
ourselves
that
we
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
to
use
that.
But
the
questions
have
been
asked,
did
zoom
work
or
is
it
working?
Is
there
a
place
for
it
in
the
future?
D
I
believe
there
is,
but
I
would
say
that
we
use
it
with
care
and
we
use
it
in
a
sensible
manner
and
but
I
honestly
do
believe
that
as
a
council,
we
will
and
should
be
back
in
the
chamber
and
possibly
equally
so
in
the
committees.
When
we
talk
about
camaraderie
and
whatever
yes,
I
have
always
believed
in
opportunities
that
were
presented
by
conversations
on
the
side
to
solve
problems
and
work
out
solutions
to
issues
that
has
always
been
part
of
the
political
scene.
D
That'll,
not
change,
and
I
I
I
still
think
that
can
best
be
done
in
the
physical
presence
and
that's
where
I
am
with
it,
but
currently
we're
in
a
position
where
we
have
a
pandemic.
D
AF
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
thank
you
to
sean
the
director
for
the
paper
which
she
has
brought
tonight.
Obviously,
when
it
came
to
the
governance
committee,
I
it
was
for
officer
and
legal
response,
but
I
and
other
councillors
felt
that
the
councillors
themselves
needed
to
have
an
input
and
as
one
who
started
that
debate,
like
many
others,
I
think
it
has
been
useful
because,
as
we're
all
aware
and
as
we've
said,
we
all
have
varying
views
into
it.
AF
But
when
you
listen
to
most
of
the
speakers
tonight,
there
is
that
desire
at
some
stage
to
return
back
to
the
chamber.
I
I
think
that
you
know
obviously
that
particular
night
I
it
provided
us
an
opportunity
to
put
obviously
our
views
in
the
way
we
should
be
and,
as
I
did
say
that
obviously
everybody
has
their
own
particular
views.
But
I
still
was
of
that
opinion
that
the
full
council
and
the
main
statutory
committees
should
be
looking
in
the
near
future.
Getting
back
to
that
full
position.
AF
As
alderman
spears
has
said-
and
others
have
said,
I,
the
remote
meetings
have
served
a
very
important
purpose
because
it
kept
democracy
going
during
what
was
a
very
dangerous
and
very
sad
pandemic.
When
people
sadly
lost
their
lives
and
many
who
are
still
ill
as
a
result
of
it,
and
it
was
something
of
most
importance
and
something
new
to
us.
But,
as
others
have
said,
I
don't
think
it's
something
that
we
can
totally
put
away
in
the
future.
AF
But
I
do
believe
that
you
know
we've
we've
needed
to
have
this
debate
and
I'm
glad
within
the
report,
and
that
is
why
I'm
happy
with
it
on
those
two
fronts,
one.
AF
You
have
reflected
sharon
the
views
of
as
most
of
us
as
possible,
but
you've
also
stated
here
that,
because
the
regulations
are
under
a
under
review
and
under
the
place
until
the
24th
of
march,
that
you
will
be
bringing
further
reports
back
to
us
as
members
looking
at
the
various
scenarios-
and
I
think
that's
where
sort
of
we
wanted
to
get
to
from
the
committee
on
tonight-
that
we'll
take
a
look
now,
we
start
planning
to
take
a
look
for
the
different
scenarios
based
upon
the
health
situation
at
the
time
and
as
alderman
spears
has
said,
and
there's
a
listen
to
the
news
tonight
on
the
way
in
and
as
we
are
out
in
the
community,
we
hear
of
people
still
testing
positive
to
this
a
virus
and
obviously
we
do
everything
with
safety.
AF
We
come
in
to
this
build
tonight,
with
the
the
hand
sanitizer
there
we've
got
our
masks
on
until
we
take
our
chair.
We
have
over
30
screens
here
at
the
cost
of
the
ratepayers
to
which
this
council
requested
and
put
in
place,
which
was
ratepayers
money
to
make
this
chamber
as
safe
as
possible,
and
it
would
be
nice
that
more
members,
then
I
would
start
attending
and
I'm
not
saying
that
in
an
aggressive
way.
Obviously
that
particular
night
I
did
mention
baby
sitting
and
when
you're
sitting
in
the
chamber,
you
don't
see
who's
on.
AF
I
he
has
young
children
and
I
have
young
children
and
many
counselors
around
this
chamber
have
as
well,
and
we
know
what
it's
like
being
busy
councillors
working
and
trying
to
keep
a
home
life
working
as
well,
and
the
down
is
up
now,
I'm
at
that
stage,
where
I'm
a
taxi
driver
taking
them
here
there
and
everywhere.
Alderman
spears
is
now
a
grandfather,
so
he's
moved
up
a
gear,
so
we're
all
in
our
different
modes.
But
to
him
I
apologize.
AF
I
apologize
that
night
because
that
was
no
that's
not
I
wouldn't
stoop
to
that
level
and-
and
I
didn't
mean
it
and
that
in
that
terminology
at
all,
but
I
do
believe
we
need
to
get
to
that
stage,
and
I
know
the
allowance
party
have
mentioned
about
the
costs
to
the
ratepayer.
But
you
know
I
would
go
back
to
the
time
when
we
spent
over
half
a
million
on
this
place
and
on
bond
bridge
to
make
the
chambers
suit
41
councillors
and
the
officers
and
if
they
want
to
squander
that
money
by
an
empty
chamber.
AF
Well,
then
that's
up
to
them
to
be
responsible
and
answerable
to
the
ratepayer.
But
we
have
a
state-of-the-art
chamber
here
in
the
civic
center
and
we
have
a
state-of-the-art
chamber
in
bambridge
for
the
planning
meetings
and
I
believe,
as
things
are
progressing
and
things
are
getting
more
positive
within
the
future,
with
this
virus,
hopefully
a
moving
thankfully
out
of
the
way.
Well
then,
I
believe
we
should
be
moving
to
that
capacity
on
the
basis
that
we
don't
rule
remote
meetings
out
completely
for
various
meetings
and,
as
I
said
previously,
I'm
very
I'm
closing
very
quickly.
AF
Lord
mayor,
there
have
been
meetings
in
the
past
with
the
dea
councillors
for
three
bring
three
or
four
favors
together
and
it
saved
me
and
alderman
spears
and
alderman,
wilson
and
and
councillor
alderman
kennedy
I
jumping
into
a
car
and
traveling
to
arma
or
wherever
it
would
be.
We
could
sit
wherever
we
were
and
have
that
meeting
for
a
year,
maybe
for
half
an
hour
and
it
was
over
and
it
does
have
its
place,
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
that
debate.
AF
It
does
have
its
place
in
the
future
going
ahead
and
I
think
it's
very
important,
but
I
think
for
full
council
on
our
statutory
meetings,
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
future
reports
coming
through
from
charn
in
in
how
we're
going
to
move
forward
getting
back
to
some
sort
of
normality.
Before
this
meeting
tonight,
I
had
resolved
a
matter
with
a
fellow
councillor
and
if
I
was
sitting
at
home
doing
that
it
probably
wouldn't
have
happened
tonight
and
it's
safe
to
be
brought
onto
the
floor
of
the
chamber.
Thank
you.
C
O
Thank
you,
dormer.
Just
a
quick
query:
councilor
lavry
raised
a
figure
of
50
000
pounds
a
year
of
a
saving.
Can
somebody
give
me
a
bit
of
information
as
to
where
that
figure
has
come
from.
P
Yep,
it
was
in
the
estimates,
presentation
last
monday,
country,
cosplay,
encouragement.
O
Is
that
what
we're
actually
members?
I
mean
we're
supposed
to
be
sensible
here
and
clearly.
We
can
just
now
come
to
a
council
meeting
the
political
point
score
and
again
run
and
party
election
broadcasts
and
just
casually
throughout
confidential
figures
that
are
contained
within
confidential
reports
for
this
council
now
I
might
contend
that
the
ratepayers
know
what
we
spend
our
money
on.
I
absolutely
am.
O
I'm
welcome
every
opportunity
for
that
happened,
but
the
fact
is
that
report
was
marked
as
confidential
and
should
not
have
been
displayed
being
given
out
in
this
chamber
in
that
way.
Again,
it's
reckless
and
irresponsible
on
behalf
of
country
lavary,
and
we
know
he
has
formed
for
it
on
the
planning
committee,
and
we
know
he
is
foreign
for
here
in
this
chamber
and
of
course
we
know
there's
another
example
of
it
this
evening.
It's
absolutely
disgraceful.
C
Thank
you,
council
cosby,
from
my
own
perspective,
having
a
three-year-old
16
year
old
and
14
year
old
at
home,
14
year
old
had
covered
there
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
He
wasn't
wasn't
entirely
unwell,
he
wasn't
well.
He
saw
back
sore
throat,
sore
heads
and
all
very
high
temperature.
I
had
a
three-year-old,
he
was
at
iceland
and
a
three-year-old
okay.
I
couldn't
take
the
to
school
and
I
couldn't
take
to
the
babysitter.
C
So
in
that
context
this
were
the
the
zoom
came
and
how
they
were
cozy
and
I
could
still
be
able
to
manage
to
onto
the
planet.
So
we
need
also
need
to
be
cognitive
of
people's
personal
circumstances
whenever
it
comes
to
them
and
as
well
as
I
want
to
see
this
council
chamber
fall
before
the
end
of
may
tenure.
So
as
long
as
we
as
long
as
we
have
it,
mindful
of
other
people's
personal
perspectives
as
well
as
those
who
may
be
selfishly
as
well,
so
we.
R
Yeah,
look,
you
know
probably
well
let
us
go
because
you
know
where
the
vote's
gonna
go
or
not,
but
I'm
not
comfortable.
You
know
with
the
response
and
that
we
are
saying
that
it
worked
well
when
conservative
point
today
tonight
it
does
not
work
well,
it
takes
17
minutes
to
do
two
votes.
I
am
in
agreement
with
what
most
people
have
said
here
tonight.
Alderman's
peers
said:
zoom
has
a
place,
zoom
had
a
assume
had
a
place
over
the
pandemic.
R
We
could
we
couldn't
survive
or
couldn't
conduct
a
council
business
without
soon
and
going
forward
working
groups,
a
party
group
leaders,
maintenance,
you
know
and
other
other
other
committees
and
whatever
and
outside
bodies,
yeah
zoom-
absolutely,
but
to
say
that
it
works
well.
There's
41
members
and
maybe
15
officers
in
a
meeting,
we're
trying
to
conduct
business
and
votes
and
they're
taking
10
and
15
minutes.
To
do
that,
you
know
I
just
don't
feel
comfortable
saying
that
it
works.
Well,
because
that's
not
true,
but
listen.
I
don't
think.
Unfortunately,
I
vote
I've
made.
C
W
Lord
mayor,
if
you're
in
agreement
brian,
is
on
the
call,
and
he
has
he'll
be
able
to
talk
through
the
report.
AJ
Thank
you,
lord
mer
and
good
evening
members,
and
so
this
is
just
a
brief
update
for
information
in
the
uk
city
of
culture.
2025
submission
the
final
bid
is
due
for
submission
on
the
2nd
of
february
and
which
is
obviously
just
next
week,
so
we're
working
hard
to
get
the
submission
and
developed
and
ready
for
submission
and
members
will
be
aware.
W
AJ
Colleagues
and
storement
as
well,
and
so
after
the
second
february,
the
bid
team
will
continue
to
work
up
the
project
with
a
view
to
being
more
ready.
If
we're
shortlisted
in
in
march.
C
I
Yes,
thank
you.
Lord
mayor
was
just
a
quick
comment
on
6.2
on
the
a1
junctions
just
to
register.
You
know
concern
again
and
then
the
length
of
the
time
that
it's
taken
dfi
to
bring
the
the
phase
two
junctions
project
to
to
site
and
go
through
the
economic
approval
stage.
I
I
understand
that
there
was
another
collision
or
accident
close
to
the
castle
well
and
road
at
the
weekend,
and
we
we
obviously
wish
swift
recovery
to
those
involved,
but
I
think
it's
just
highlighting
how
dangerous
that
road
is,
and
I
want
to
register
and
for
that
and
record.
Thank
you.
AF
Mayor,
yes,
just
had
my
comment
on
on
the
these
improvements
to
that
portion
of
the
air
one
some
of
these
junctions
in
this
report
and
probably
owned
them
on
a
daily
basis,
and
it's
it's
her
reason,
sometimes
trying
to
get
across
archaeology.
AF
I
know
this
has
been
dragging
on,
but
it
is
something
that
really
we
need
to
be
pushing
for
and
for
the
safety
of
of
all
commuters,
not
just
people
who
are
obviously
coming
out
of
palm
bridge,
but
right
across
or
the
community
got
using
that
a1,
it's
a
death
trap
and
I
think
this
really
needs
to
be
concluded
as
soon
as
possible.
Thank
you.
AB
Yes,
thanks
lord
mer,
just
really
to
reiterate
really
what
counselor,
wilson
and
concert
pope
has
already
said
about
the
a1
improvements
and
it's
very
much
welcome.
But
I
was
really
only
going
to
come
in
there
and
point
6.1
really
with
correspondence
from
yuri
morning
down
and
the
dying
high
school
legal
group
just
to
welcome
it
and
to
say
that
yeah,
it's
very
much
welcome
and
a
great
initiative
from
the
school
there-
and
I
know
our
colleagues
over
near
morning
down.
AB
I
think,
give
it
a
unanimous
endorsement
for
that,
but
just
to
welcome
that.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Councillor
move
on
to
agenda
seven
schedule
of
documents
requiring
corporate
seal;
seven
point
one
to
seven
point:
three:
canadian
proposal
in
saginaw
we
take
all
three
on
black.
C
P
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Lord
mayor,
as
members
will
know,
lurgan
park
is
northern
ireland's
largest
urban
park
and
a
huge
asset
to
the
town.
However,
it
is
forced
to
close
early
during
winter
months,
which
reduces
the
amount
of
time
members
of
the
public
can
enjoy
the
natural
open
space.
P
P
P
Secondly,
produce
a
business
case
with
updated
costings
when
we
know
will
pass
you
need
to
light,
including
any
internal
changes
for
staff
rotors
that
are
needed
for
the
extended
lighting
periods.
Once
that's
done,
we'll
move
on
to
step
three
which
be
to
submit
a
full
planning
application
for
the
project.
P
When
these
steps,
which
would
only
require
a
small
financial
commitment,
are
completed,
it
will
mean
that
within
12
to
18
months
alert
and
park,
lighting's
project
will
be
shelf
ready.
This
will
mean
that
will
allow
councils
to
bed
for
match
fountain
from
dfi
for
50
plus
of
the
overall
project
costs.
P
Once
these
funds
are
secured,
then
council
can
apply
to
contractor
and
bring
the
project
to
completion
members.
On
behalf
of
all
the
residents
of
lurgan
and
the
surrounding
area,
I
am
asking
for
your
support
tonight
for
less
motion
so
that
the
lighting
of
lurgan
park
can
move
from
being
a
wish
to
becoming
a
reality,
it's
time
to
light
up
logan
park.
Thank
you,
lord
mayor.
C
N
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
I
think
coachella
has
summed
it
up
quite
well.
I
think
the
pandemic,
if
it's
almost
anything,
is
the
importance
of
opencf,
accessible
outdoor
space,
and
this
motion
would
improve
access
by
allowing
the
park
to
open
later,
but
it
would
also
improve
public
safety
and
in
terms
of
our
parks
as
well.
The
present
the
current
closing
times
during
winter
months
at
logan
and
many
other
of
our
parks,
don't
suit
people's
normal
working
hours
in
terms
of
allowing
them
to
get
out
to
exercise
after
work.
N
The
project
has
been
talked
about
as
question
love
related
to
for
a
long
number
of
years,
and
but
it
currently
sits
on
our
emerging
or
or
maybe
list,
I
suppose
in
terms
of
projects
that
could
be
progressed.
So
this
is
really
about
taking
practical
steps
now
to
move
this
forward
and
really
get
the
momentum
going
and
to
prioritize
it
going
forward
so
yeah.
I
think
that
sums
it
up
lord
mayor
and
I'm
happy
to
to
second
the
motion.
Thank
you.
C
AK
AK
This
motion
is
just
pure
election
here
and
they're
trying
to
take
claim
when
all
the
hard
hard
yards
have
already
been
put
in
before
them,
notably
from
councillor
liam
mackel
and
former
councillors,
joe
nelson
and
philip
mutray,
I'm
sure
they
are,
as
there
are
others.
So
this
motion
dismisses
the
work
which
has
already
been
done
to
date.
Firstly,
in
getting
this
project
on
the
capitol
plan
and
also
its
inclusion
on
the
field
peace
for
bid.
AK
Having
raised
this
project
in
december's,
full
council
meeting
and
in
discussions
with
council
officers
ever
since
I
became
clear
of
the
lack
of
a
clear
strategy
for
logan
park,
along
with
the
300
plus
increase,
we
have
seen
in
our
parks
during
the
pandemic.
The
lightning
of
largan
park
will
undoubtedly
attract
more
park
users.
AK
AK
Car
parking
issues
for
residents
in
castle
and
robert
street
disability
parking
av
charging
points,
anti-social,
behavior,
the
way
of
site
where
we
have
invested
two
hundred
thousand
pounds
to
have
it
demolished
to
have
it
ready
for
potential
investors
on
how
we
can
protect,
preserve
wildlife
from
the
environment
on
how
we
can
actually
accommodate
more
sports.
And
lastly,
in
my
own
opinion,
lurganport
can
be
a
catalyst
to
reinvite
delays,
the
town
center
and
attract
new
visitors
in
the
time
and
attract
large
events.
AK
AK
A
master
plan
will
set
out
the
recommended
feature
layout
of
logan
park.
It
builds
on
what
has
been
agreed
to
deep
by
council
members.
It
will
include
detail
of
the
waves
pace
for
bid
and
is
designed
to
allow
all
elements
to
be
developed
at
once
or
individually,
depending
on
available
funding
and
through
this
council.
This
work
will
be
conducted
within
the
relevant
committee
and
a
report
will
be
brought
to
committee
on
what
has
been
completed
today.
AK
C
P
Complicated
one
lord
mayor,
I
know
there's
a
number
of
other
speakers.
Maybe
you
want
to
allow
them
to
speak
first,
while
I
consider
the
amendment.
Thank
you.
C
M
M
It
made
its
way
to
the
capital
plan.
Unfortunately,
it
didn't
make
its
way
to
the
and
the
top
list
in
the
capital
plan,
but
it's
still
there.
It's
still
council
policy
council
intensive
proceed
with
this
proposal,
so
I
you
know
when
I
first
seen
this
notice
emotion.
I
was
quite
surprised
I
thought
either
the
lands
haven't
done
their
research
to
know
that
this
is
already
council
policy
or
else
which
is
more
likely.
They
did
see
the
proposal.
They
didn't
know
it's
council
policy,
but
it's
an
election
year
we'll
need
some
publicity
around
the
organ
area.
M
So
if
this
head
of
the
latch
honda
lurkin
park
and
run
with
that
is
a
big
issue
for
everyone's
election
champion
and
that's
business,
I
mean
if,
if
we
were
all
denied,
go
away
and
look
at
that
those
capitalists
and
go
down
the
list
and
take
out
our
pet
projects
and
every
councillor
was
to
bring
their
41
motions
that
were
allowed
each
year
when
their
pad
projects
out
of
that
list,
the
council
would
be
in
chaos.
M
Officers
would
have
time
to
do
very
little
else,
so
it
really
points
to
really
really
poor
election
year
from
the
land.
Supporting
I
mean,
there's
a
lot
of
workers
already
been
carried
in
relation
to
this
in
respect
of
the
waves
bid
and
the
preparations
and
the
cautions
around
the
lake
and
for
the
capital
project.
So
I'm
happy
to
second
professor
thomann's
amendment
and
get
those
that
report
to
committee
about
the
work.
That's
already
been
done
and
put
a
bit
more
of
a
framework
around
how
we
move
it
forward
and
so
happy.
Q
Thank
you,
lord
murr,
as
husband
alluded
to
counselor
magal,
my
son,
before
myself
and
myself
and
others
have
supported
the
opening
of
logan
park
at
night.
We
were
all
lobbied
a
few
years
ago
in
relation
to
it
and
in
principle
I
think
it's
a
great
idea,
but
we
have
got
to
look
further
than
just
the
opening
of
the
park.
We
have
got
to
look
at
the
consequences
of
the
opening
of
the
park.
At
the
moment
we
have
had
some
low-level
vandalism
in
the
park
and
that's
going
on
at
night.
Q
Also,
there's
a
question
around
wildlife
and
whenever
the
young,
turks
of
the
alliance
party
were
so
quick
to
go
to
social
media
last
week
to
highlight
the
fact
that
what
they
were
doing,
if
you
look
at
the
feedback
they
got,
there
was
quite
a
lot
of
negative
comments
because
people
were
concerned
about
the
wildlife,
the
deaths
in
and
around
the
park
and
how
they
would
be
impacted
as
well.
Q
Q
Whenever
he
proposed
the
amendment,
we
need
to
look
at
the
bigger
picture
in
relation
to
the
wave
site
at
robert
street
and
what
else
goes
on
and
has
the
potential
to
go
on
in
the
park,
because
it
is
the
shining
light
of
our
town,
and
I
do
believe-
and
I
know
everyone
believes
there's
a
lot
more-
can
go
on
to
it.
So
you
know
yeah,
it's
a
better,
cynical
electioneering
again,
a
quick
hit
by
the
alliance
party,
but
we
need
to
do
the
thing
and
do
it
right.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
lord
murph.
Let
me
in
on
this.
Yes,
I
concur
with
an
awful
lot
of
what
has
been
said
tonight.
I'm
a
big
user
at
logan
park,
I'm
running
really
frequently
and
it's
great
to
see
you
know
in
the
in
the
spring
and
summer
and
early
autumn
evenings,
there's
a
number
of
groups
using
the
park
facilities
for
for
a
running
club,
for
football
and
for
football
training
and
and
for
tennis
and
and
bowls
and
the
park.
A
You
know
the
the
use
diminishes
then,
whenever
it
comes
into
the
winter
time
because
of
the
light,
however,
it
has
been
pointed
out
in
the
park
in
the
past
balance.
You
know
concerns
regarding
leg
position
and
I
know
people
whose
houses
back
onto
the
park-
and
you
know
like
has
been
said
before
there
are
so
many
concerns
that
I
would
have
with
a
lighting
up
of
of
the
park,
and
you
know
we
enjoy
great
wildlife
diversity
in
the
park
too,
and
and
how
would
that
be
affected?
A
And
how
would
our
white
life
in
the
park
be
affected
by
the
introduction
of
these
lights?
So,
yes,
you
know.
I
do
appreciate
why
this
motion
has
been
brought
forward
and
but
I
also
you
know,
think
we
should
go
carefully
on
it,
because,
yes,
it's
it's
great
to
have
this
wonderful
wish
list
that
we
could
light
up
the
park
and
and
have
it
as
this
year-round
facility
for
us
all
to
use.
A
But
I
think
we
have
to
be
careful
what
we
wish
for
sometimes
too,
and
and
really
look
into
all
the
details
behind
us.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
very
much
councillor
mccastry,
I'm
going
to
bring
in
country
kale
savage.
Please.
S
Thank
you,
lord
mark.
I
would
have
to
agree
with
a
lot
of
what
people
say
there.
You
know
counselor
library
again
is
just
election
year
and,
as
everybody
has
said,
because
at
the
last
governor's
committee,
he,
along
with
everybody
else,
proposed
the
recommendations
come
by
the
consultation,
go
back
to
the
error
and
we
note
the
proposals
to
further
address
light
pollution.
Issues.
S
We'd
like
to
highlight
the
potential
for
strength
from
the
wearing
within
the
draft
starters
in
relation
to
light
depletion
like
cursor
lovely
proposed,
are
agreed
with
that
amendment,
so
we
can't
have
it
everywhere:
you're
big
on
the
environment,
the
latter
one
you're
big
in
the
environment,
but
you
don't
follow
through
it's
not
simply
a
case
of
pulling
the
lights
up.
This
is
a
bigger
scale.
We
have
an
issue
there
with
an
old
wave
site
and
that
needs
to
be
tackled
first
and
foremost,
but
it
needs
to
be
an
overarching
view
within
the
logan
park.
S
We
are
lucky
to
have
such
a
beautiful
park.
I
use
it
regularly
myself,
but
I
don't
want
to
see
us
doing
something:
knee-jerk
political
opportunism
just
to
destroy
something
that
we
have
that
we
hold
so
dear.
It
is
a
jewel
in
the
crown
within
logan
and
we
need
to
do
that.
But
perhaps
you
need
to
read
what
you
proposed
or
what
you
agreed
to
in
the
governor's
committee,
which
was
passed
tonight
by
false
counsel.
Thank
you.
Lord.
I
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
which
is
the
point
died.
I
just
think
it's
a
little
reds
from
councillor
toolman
to
raise
the
you
know
december
meetings,
because
I
brought
through
transformation
of
the
scarborough
rail
station
through
committee,
and
then
it
was
ratified
through
council.
One
thing
that
you
know
on
the
strategic
transport
annoying
this
twitter
feed
there's
a
this
month's
there's
a
let's
get
reel
for
bomb
bridge,
so
a
direct
copy
of
really
of
that.
So
I
just
thought
you
know
we
better.
N
Yeah
look
thank
you
lord
mayor
and,
I
have
to
say
I'm
a
wee
bit
demoralized
by
the
way
in
which
the
debate
has
unfolded.
Tonight
I
mean
it
is
quite
quite
a
substantive
amendment
that
we
were
not
notified
of
prior
and
I
think
it
would
have
been
good
to
have
a
dialogue
if
there
were
any
issues
with
the
notice
of
motion
beforehand
that
we
could
find
a
form
of
words
that
we
could
agree
on
and
work
together
on
to
try
and
progress.
N
The
project
that
would
have
been
no
problem
and
I
would
have
been
happy
to
engage
members
were
notified.
I
believe
this
time
last
week
of
what
the
subject
matter
of
the
motion
would
be.
I
think
it
it
seems
very
much
as
though
the
opposition
is
not
so
much
to
the
substance
of
the
motion,
but
to
the
people
who
are
proposing
and
seconding
the
motion.
Indeed,
I've
been
referenced
a
number
of
times
tonight.
N
This
project
is
something
that
the
council,
lovery,
you
know,
since
he's
been
elected,
has
been
very
passionate
about
answered
questions
about.
I
agreed
the
second
that,
as
his
party
colleague,
it's
nothing
to
do
with
me
or
my
election
campaign.
I
can
assure
you
I'm
a
lot
busier
than
to
be
writing.
N
N
It
is
something
that
I
considered
and
when
we
were
drafting
the
motion
that
we've
included
an
awful
lot
there
and
about
consultation
and
so
on
and
on
options
for
the
lightning
scheme
and
engagement
with
local
residents,
because
that
is
absolutely
important
and
there
is
potential
for
an
adverse
impact.
However,
there
are
ways
to
mitigate
that,
and
there
are
many
companies,
many
consultants
out
there
who
can
advise
you
on
environmentally
friendly
lighting
schemes,
which
are
low
level
and
which
focus
on
pedestrian
pathways
so
as
not
to
disrupt
wildlife.
So
there
are
ways
of
doing
this.
N
And
if
that
means
that
we
have
to
take
a
notice
of
motion
to
council
in
order
to
force
other
parties
hands
to
actually
get
things
moving,
then
that's
what
we
will
do.
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
hollow
boast
to
say
that
this
was
great.
You
know
five
years
ago
whenever
people
who
use
lurkin
park
have
not
seen
a
single
light
go
up,
and
I
think
people
are
tired
of
this
slow
motion,
kind
of
bureaucratic
approach.
N
AF
Thank
you,
lord
maura,
and
just
probably
hack
on
some
of
our
recent
contributors.
I
find
it
strange
where
you
you,
you
make
a
point
of
on
the
issue
of
hybrid
meetings
with
saving
the
council,
money
and
the
environment.
Yet
with
all
you
propose
to
increase
your
carbon
footprint
even
more
by
lighting
up
logan
park,
maybe
a
fair
enough
idea
for
local
residents,
and
maybe
they
support
that.
But
I
think
it's
quite
strange.
You
either
reduce
you
want
to
reduce
carbon
footprint
or
you
don't.
AF
I
don't
see
any
halfway
house
here,
you're
right,
you
just
stick
a
big
carbon
burnt
in
the
middle
of
lurking
park
and
that's
that's
okay
and
I
think
really
in
recent
events
too.
I
think
my
colleague
counselor
would
really
tell
it.
AF
Is
safety
in
the
park
we've
seen
a
recent
events
in
the
south
with
the
safety
of
people
and
especially
young
women,
in
these
areas
that
need
something
just
because
there's
a
light
up
doesn't
mean
it's
safe,
but
I
think
it's
quite
ironic
where
you
you
campaign
or
you
you
try
to
promote
the
environment
on
one
hand,
and
then
you
know
want
to
increase
your
carbon
footprint
on
the
other
yeah
you
either
have
it
one
way
or
the
other
or
the
other
way.
You
can't
have
it
for
both
ways.
AF
V
P
O
O
Remember
who
speaks
shall
direct
his
her
speech
strictly
to
the
motion
under
discussion,
or
an
amendment
thereof,
and
member
who
has
spoken
on
any
motion
shall
not
speak
again.
Whilst
it
is
the
subject
of
debate
except
to
speak
once
on
an
amendment
move
by
another
member.
O
So
if
country
lover
is
intent
on
speaking,
he
should
speak
to
the
amendment
and
not
again
to
go
off
on
another
political
election
broadcast
in
this
chamber
for
about
the
tenth
time
this
evening,
because
I
think
at
the
public
listing
and
the
members
in
the
chamber
around
at
home
are
fed
up
with
them.
Thank
you.
C
P
Yeah
and
thank
you,
lord
mayor
and
I
certainly
won't
be
silenced
by
any
other
elected
members
in
terms
of
the
emotion
on
the
discussion
to
know
when
the
motion
was
raised,
a
number
of
points
were
made
against
myself
and
I
can
say
it
fully
and
honestly.
I
intended
to
bring
this
motion
and
the
autumn
of
last
year,
and
in
fact
I
was
preparing
to
do
so
when
a
number
of
paramilitary
facades
were
erected
in
lurgan,
which
then
met.
P
I
decided
to
take
the
decision
to
bring
emotion
on
that
instead
and
unfortunately,
as
I
can
only
bring
one
a
year,
I
had
to
wait
and
then
discussion
with
my
party
colleagues
last
autumn.
I
agreed
that
I
would
bring
it
in
january
of
this
year,
which
have
done
so.
It
was
always
going
to
bring
it
to
us
meeting.
In
spite
of
what
others
have
been
saying
in
terms
of
the
motion
itself,
I
think
it
actually
kicks
this
project
further
into
the
long
grass.
P
I
raised
the
point
previously
that
had
been
first
discussed
five
years
ago
and
very
little
to
no
progress
had
been
made.
I
sat
out
in
my
emotion,
much
concert
home
in
the
second
time
man
I
set
out
a
number
of
structural
steps
that
we
could
progress.
This
project
together
in
the
state
will
be
ready
to
go
in
12
to
18
months
and
hopefully
finished
in
about
two
years
to
two
and
a
half
years
and
have
their
lighting
being
installed.
P
As
it's
been
mentioned
as
part
of
my
motion,
there
would
be
community
consultations
with
residents
and
service
users
relation
to
the
lighting
and
environmental
impact
and
how
we
could
do
that
better
and
to
and
to
limited
impact
on
on
on
bats
and
so
on
and
members.
It's
not
mutually
exclusive
in
terms
of
you
have
to
be,
you
know
environmentally
friendly,
but
also
you
can't
do
anything
we
can
do
these
by
lighting
up
the
park.
You
also
reduce
other
trips.
P
People
have
to
take
go
to
other
further
away
locations
the
likes
of
people's
parking
ported
in
which
already
has
lights
installed.
So
if
it's
good
enough
to
put
it
down,
why
is
it
not
good
enough
for
largon,
but
just
to
come
back
in
terms
of
the
summary
of
the
motion
of
the
amendment?
That's
been
placed,
I've
inclined
not
to
accept
the
amendment,
because
I
think
that
those
have
this
considerable
potential
to
kick
this
project
into
the
long
grass
and
it's
already
been
there
for
five
years.
P
I'd
rather
get
it
out
of
the
long
grass
and
get
it
actually
erected
in
the
park.
So,
unfortunately,
I'm
going
to
decline.
The
amendment
to
the
motion
here
tonight.
Thank
you,
lord
mayor.
R
You
lord
mayor,
and
I
think
you
know
I
had
no
intention
speaking
on
this
motion
and
tonight
others
have
spoke
very
elegantly
before
me
and
made
some
very
valid
points,
and
this
point
has
been
an
interview,
but
I
think
for
clarity
for
anybody.
Listening
to
this,
we
had
a
an
infamous
capital
list
that
we
all
know
about,
and
for
some
years
this
capitalist
kept
growing
and
it
was
counters,
wishlist
and
officer
wishlists
and
all
those
things,
and
I
come
into
a
big
format
and
it
was
millions
and
millions
of
pounds.
R
You
know,
resources
are
finite,
desires
are
infinite
and
it
doesn't
match
up
now.
When
we
got
this
list,
we
eventually
come
to
an
agreement
with
all
parties,
and
everybody
unanimously
in
this
chamber
agreed
that
these
are
the
the
projects
that
we
have
progressed
and
the
ones
that
we
could
afford.
The
lurking
park.
R
Layton
sat
just
below
that
cut
off
the
alliance
party
voted
as
we
all
did,
and
we
all
knew
we
were
voting
for
because
we
all
had
the
list
for
months
and
months,
so
they
knew
exactly
that
that
wasn't
making
the
grade
at
that
time.
It's
still
on
the
list
as
councillor
michael
saying,
counselor
very
sad
before
me
so
to
bring
this
tonight
like
it's
been
said
before
it's
on
the
list,
but
that's
a
point
for
clarity.
I
think
it's
a
very,
very
important
point.
It's
on
the
list.
R
It's
already
been
agreed
so
to
bring
this
tonight.
I
think
it's
got
different
motives.
You
know
it's
been
said
before,
so
I'm
not
going
to
rehash
that
point,
but
it
was
agreed
by
everybody
at
that
time
and
the
capitalist
every
time
I
think
of
that
capitalistic
grown
and
us
does
the
chief
executive
share,
but
those
projects
that
were
being
progressed
on
are
being
progressed,
and
this
is
still
on
the
list
and
that's
for
future
discussion.
C
R
G
D
AF
AE
K
J
C
N
C
AB
C
X
C
AK
D
V
D
J
AD
P
Thank
you,
lord
mayor.
Well,
certainly,
it's
been
a
bit
of
a
disappointing
debate
in
terms
of
the
content
of
the
debate,
but
certainly
would
not
distract
me
from
my
commitment
to
ensuring
that
logan
park
is
eventually
lit
up.
So
all
the
residents
within
there
in
the
surrounding
area
are
able
to
go
to
those
darker
winter
evenings
and
make
use
of
the
additional
health
and
recreation
activities
that
will
come
from
it.
P
That's
all
we
can
say
lord
mayor,
I'm
about
to
worry
that
maybe
this
project
or
the
amendment
kicks
it
into
a
long
grass
a
bit
and
maybe
we'll
delay
it
further,
but
certainly
we're
committed
to
delivering
up.
Thank
you,
lord
mayor.
C
C
Can
I
seek
a
proposal
on
secondary
to
go
into
committee
for
consideration
of
confidential
items
of
business
members
and
listeners
to
the
audio
feed
in
accordance
with
schedule.
6
of
the
local
government
actually
will
now
be
moving
at
the
confidential
session
of
the
council.
This
means
that
we'll
be
turned
off
the
public
audio
feed
in
the
meeting
and
with
a
good
turn
when
the
maintenance
restores.
So
I
get
the
proposal
in
saginaw,
please
councillor
baxter
proposed
making
london
second.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
I
say
ct
officers.
Please
turn
off
the
audio
feed.
B
B
B
O
AL
O
B
C
C
I
Lord
bear
and
I
will
be
brief,
yeah.
I
was
really
concerned
on
the
removal
of
mature
trees
and
the
borough
example
being
the
recent
removal
of
over
100
trees
in
the
new
road
area
of
bomb
bridge
a
much
valued
walk
by
dfi,
I
mean,
obviously
it
could
take
up
to
30
years
to
over
overcome
that
I
was
just
a
request.
I
The
council
officers
engaged
with
dfi
staff
with
regard
to
their
tree
maintenance
policy
in
the
area
and
control
of
their
contractors,
given
the
the
significant
tree
lost
at
this
location
and
possibly
elsewhere,
two
so
a
proposal
request
that
council
officers
bring
back
a
report
to
committee
on
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
AD
Yes,
thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
I
wasn't
aware
that
counselor
pope
was
bringing
this
matter
up
tonight
under
any
other
business,
but
I
just
happened
to
be
driving
home
and
this
evening
passed
a
where
almac
are
now
doing
an
extension
and
I
would
say,
there's
an
excess
of
at
least
40
to
50.
AD
Mature
trees
has
just
been
cut
down
and
it
was
actually
going
to
contact
our
planet
department
in
the
morning
to
see
whether
or
not
they
that
was
part
of
their
plan
and
application,
and
if
so,
were
they
going
to
replace
that,
and
so
I
was
very
concerned
driving
up
the
the
main
corn
road.
This
are
the
segal
road.
It
wasn't
in
the
car
road.
It
was
the
sigo
road
and
this
evening,
and
they
just
say
so,
many
trays
being
taken
down,
and
so
just
if
damien
is,
is
listening
tonight.
AD
AE
C
Thank
you
very
much
council
greenfield
so
propose
on
sagnant
proposed
by
council
of
pokemon
second
by
councillor
kinsley,
and
that
we
engaged
with
the
fa
contractors
recording
taking
down
of
trees.
We
all
agreed
a
great
thank
you
very
much
going
to
bring
in
cancer
mcnally
and
regarding
the
flame
of
the
union
flag
at
the
the
palace
norma
on
prince
andrews,
perfect
kenshin,
mcnally.
AA
Thank
you,
lord
mer,
and
yes,
as
you
alluded
to,
and
I
wish
there
is
the
plan
of
the
union
flag
at
the
palace
on
the
19th
of
february,
which
we
traditionally
do
for
prince
andrew's
birthday.
Lord
merger,
where
prince
andrew,
currently
faces
some
very
serious
allegations
and
has
recently
been
stripped
of
some
of
his
titans
by
the
queen
lord
mark.
Given
that
the
car,
given
the
current
situation,
I
feel
I
don't
feel
it
would
be
appropriate
to
fly
the
flag
on
the
19th
of
next
month.
AA
R
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
we're
going
to
get
into
the
debate
of
prince
andre
and
what's
happening,
the
current
trial
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff.
And
but
do
you
realize
that
there's
a
lot
of
sensitivities
out
there?
We're
not
we're
not
blinded
to
the
fact
of
what's
going
on
and
in
terms
of
playing
the
flag
and
before
his
birthday,
and
that
I
think
really
here
in
this
council.
It
only
really
applies
to
our
map,
because
we
have
a
365
policy
in
both
palm
bridge
and
qriket.
We're
using
legacy
policies
on
that.
R
So
my
suggestion
would
be
just
in
line
to
what
I
think
belfast
might
be
agreeing
tonight
that
we
maybe
don't
fly
the
flag
on
the
19th
of
february,
but
to
keep
up
the
amount
of
designated
days
that
the
policy
follows
and
that
we
would
flat
then,
on
the
first
of
july
to
commemorate
the
battle
of
the
zom
and
for
this
year
anyway.
R
To
see
how
things
go,
then,
in
terms
of
trials
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff
and
whatever
the
recommendations
are
from
the
department
at
westminster
as
well,
because
there
probably
will
be
a
review.
But
I
think,
for
this
year
I
think
we
fled
on
the
1st
of
july
just
to
keep
up
the
designated
days
and
that
the
council's
allowed
that'll
keep
the
numbers
the
same,
at
least,
but
I
think,
with
the
sensitivities
around
everything
is
going
on.
Currently,
I
think
that's
a
brilliant
move,
not
the
flat
on
some
personality.
AA
Thank
you,
lord
meron.
Look
cancer
baxter
talks
about
a
sensor
and
I
I
would
be
happy
well
it's
the
first
of
july
or
if
there's
another
suitable
date.
If
you
just
want
to
talk
about
it
in
group
leaders,
I'd
be
very
happy
to
take
correction
from
group
leaders
on
it.
So
then
thank
you
for
his
comments
and
for
being
an
agreement
with
us.
Thank
you.
N
To
do
that,
and
I
think
the
proposal
of
retaining
that
that
designated
day
on
the
1st
of
july
to
mark
the
psalm
is
a
really
opt
way
to
handle
this
sensitively
as
well.
So
I'm
glad
tonight
that
we
seem
to
have
a
consensus
and
a
sensible
way
forward.
Thank
you.
Lord
mayor.
L
D
C
However,
it
is
flown
on
the
first
of
july
to
remember
the
battle
of
the
psalm
for
this
year.
Only
is
that
confirmed
how
you.
C
Okay,
members
already
agreed
great,
thank
you
very
much
and
we
have
dealt
with
christopher
nelson
nelson's
aopa
council
flaggery
request
to
highlight
the
shortage
of
donors
and
kidnap
donations,
I'm
going
to
bring
in
councillor
flagler.
Y
Does
she
have
been
important
to
me
personally
over
the
years,
and
I
know
too
many
if
he's
in
here
but
of
lit
I've
got
to
know
one
of
my
constituents
pretty
well
a
lovely
lady,
mandy
baxter
who
who
lost
her
sister-in-law
quite
relatively
suddenly
back
in
november,
to
a
very,
very
rare
and
serious
blood
disease,
plastic
anemia,
it's
more
probably
more
common
than
we
think
it
can
happen
to
anyone
and-
and
you
never,
you
never
quite
know.
Y
But
what
happens
really
is
the
body
fails
to
produce
platelets
and
can't
produce
them,
and
it
has
to
be
replaced
since,
since
that
sort
of
the
the
suddenness
of
that
and
what
the
family
had
to
go
through
to
try
and
get
a
match
for
her
rare
blood
type
they
had
to
troll
the
uk
and
all
all
different
parts
of
europe
and
it
it
didn't
come
in
time
for
for
for
ruth,
but
the
family
fighter
on
and
with
the
help
of
her
son
mandy
has
been
quite
determined.
Y
I
think
he's
fully
contacted
quite
a
few
of
us
and
we
were
very
fortunate.
We
were
able
to
get
her
in
touch
with
robin.
She
gave
robin
grilling
one
one
evening
on
one
of
our
ladies
groups
that
we
that
we
we
have
within
the
party
and
we're
determined
to
back
her.
I
say
I've
always
been
a
blood
donor.
I
have
a
very
rare
type
of
blood
myself
actually
and
come
in
quite
useful
different
locations.
I've
had
in
my
life-
and
I
want
to
encourage
everyone
to
to
do
so.
Y
The
issue
with
blood
platelets
is
slightly
different
as
a
separate
donation
stream,
and
we
do
have
a
platelet
donation
center,
but
we
only
have
one
here
in
in
northern
ireland,
we're
part
of
uk
that
only
have
the
one
and
it's
a
belfast
city
hospital
run
by
the
blood
trans
northern
ireland
transfusion,
and
I
don't
think
people
are
really
aware
of
it
and
that's
all
that's
all
the
family
want
to
do.
But
at
this
particular
juncture
the
blood
transfusion
service
is
incredibly
low
of
donors
are
present.
Y
I
think
they're
over
a
third
dime,
a
combination
of
factors
and
this
this,
on
top
of
it,
so
we're
at
a
position
where
there's
about
0.2
percent
of
a
population
published
in
northern
ireland,
1.9
million,
so
1.2
percent
actually
don't
need.
It
takes
a
bit
longer
slightly
different
process,
but
relatively
straightforward.
If
you
give
blood,
you
know
how
easy
it
is,
and
you
get
a
cup
of
tea
when
you're
finished
it's
lovely.
Y
I
would
just
well
all
I'd
like
to
do
if,
if
you
would
members
roger
get
your
pen
night,
I'm
gonna
be
the
only
one
to
ask
you
to
write
a
letter
this
evening,
we've
written
as
many
people
as
we
can
and
with
with
the
backend
of
of
miss
baxter,
to
try
and
raise
awareness
and
raise
the
profile
of
this,
because
it's
it's
a
lesser-known
service
that
is
provided
and
but
we
really.
Y
These
more
unusual
things
and
we
stand
with
her
in
her
grief,
and
some
of
us
know
that,
failing
too
so
roger,
if
that's,
okay
with
other
members
that
we
get
behind
this
for
mandy
and
her
family.
I'd
be
very
much
appreciative
of
that.
Thank
you,
oh,
and
if
you
want
to
give
blood
tax
blood
to
681,
just
said.
C
AB
Yes,
thanks
lord
mer
on
a
party
political
broadcast,
we're
probably
gonna
be
advert
for
the
blood
donation,
but
just
yes,
as
someone
who
donates
blood
myself,
I
can't
really.
I
would
really
like
to
support
julian
what
she's,
saying
and
obviously
just
on
the
back
of
mandy's
campaign
and
the
sort
of
promotion
that
she's
trying
to
look
for
in
this
campaign,
because
obviously
after
the
pandemic
and
we've
gone
through
two
years,
we're
sitting
at
probably
crisis
point
in
our
blood
donations
and
the
units
that
are
coming
forward.
AB
So,
as
I
said,
blood
donation,
julie,
said,
blood,
donation
and
platelets
are
two
different
processes,
but
very
simple.
Just
one
takes
a
wee
bit
longer
than
the
other
for
an
individual
to
to
take
out
of
their
day.
So
I'm
happy
to
support
julie's
proposal
on
that,
and
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
get
behind
as
a
council
and
raise
awareness
as
much
as
possible,
so
we
can
save
lives.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
kendra
mccauley.
We
all
agreed
with
the
request
agreed.
Thank
you
very
much
members
members,
as
you
you're
well
aware,
tonight
is
our
last
mate
or
first
themed
colleague,
seemed
to
be
former
colleague
he's,
leaving
us
to
stay
back
in
manchester.
Mr
mark
parkinson.
C
Close
swansea
so
mark
on
behalf
of
council.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
for
your
time
here.
You
have
been
fantastic
advocate
for
this
council
and
indeed
for
for
our
constituents
and
just
about
see
you
there.
No,
but
honestly,
thank
you
on
behalf
of
attention
and
all
the
members
here
in
the
chamber
and
home.
Thank
you
very
much
for
for
your.
J
C
AF
Thank
you,
lord
marin.
I'll,
be
very
brief.
I
would
also
like
to
reiterate
your
comments.
I
I'd
like
to
wish
mark
and
his
family
all
the
very
best
for
the
future.
I
must
say,
as
a
counselor
I
I
was
guarded
when
the
chief
executive
had
made
contact
to
say
that
mark
was
was
leaving
us
I
in
in
january
I
I
was
genuinely
disappointed
and
gutted
because
I
found
mark
was
a
breath
of
fresh
air
when
he
came
to
the
council
here
just
a
number
of
years
ago.
AF
It's
just
hard
to
believe
that
it
was
that
period
of
time
and
it
has
flown.
I
know
he
was
to
be
here
for
a
shorter
time,
but
he
stayed,
but
I
was
couldn't
help
but
think
tonight,
like
he's
going
to
miss
all
this
and
he's
about
to
change
his
decision
after
tonight's
big,
but
genuinely
I
found
him
to
be
a
first-class
officer,
one
who
was
straightforward.
AF
I
told
you
what
he
sometimes
maybe
didn't
want
to
hear,
but
that's
what
we
appreciated
and
he
was
he
was
one
who
was
very
innovative.
He
was
one
that
believed
in
pushing
boundaries.
He
was
one
that
believed
that
we
could
do
better
and
I
believe
in
the
term
of
office
that
mark
has
served
with
this
council.
AF
He
has
brought
this
council
with
the
help,
obviously
of
the
chief
and
the
officers
to
a
far
better
place,
and
I
think
we're
going
to
be
really
missing,
mark
and
we're
going
to
be
the
prayer
of
of
marx
leaving
the
council
here.
But
I
would
just
like
to
genuinely
wish
him
all
the
very
best
in
the
future.
C
R
Of
the
backstage,
thank
you,
lord
mer.
I
just
really
agree
with
what
counselor
barry
saying
yourself.
Lord
marty,
I
think,
when
somebody
comes
in
from
from
outside
this
place,
known
as
a
very
small
country,
1.8
million
people-
you
look
at
some
of
the
cities
over
in
england
that
you've
worked
before
mark
when
there's,
maybe
four
or
five
million
people
or
whatever
there's
a
very
small
place.
R
So
for
somebody
to
come
in
with
our
fresh
prairie
house,
with
none
of
the
baggage
and
there's
none
of
that,
but
none
of
the
politics
that
happens
might
be
here.
It
was
as
country
bryce
had
a
breath
of
fresh
air
when
he
came
over
and
certainly
very
sharp,
with
a
long
career
in
local
government.
So
you
certainly
know
how
it
works
and
how
politics
works.
R
Politics
might
be
slightly
different
here,
but
the
core
of
politics
and
it's
going
to
be
labor
and
tories
of
each
other
strokes
over
there,
and
it's
probably
just
slightly
different
here.
But
human
nature
is
the
same,
and
you
certainly
brought
that
skill
and
the
flair
with
you.
And
you
know
you
have
a
great
diffusion
situations
and
getting
things
done
and
I
have
to
say
you
know,
for
an
officer
anytime,
that
I
phoned
you.
R
You
always
answered
the
phone
and
if
you
didn't
you're,
always
in
the
phone
back
about
20
25
minutes
later
I'll
tell
you
this
and
that
has
to
be
applauded
for,
for
somebody,
who'll
be
getting
quite
a
few
phone
calls
and
quite
a
lot
to
do
right
across
right
across
look
we're
going
to
miss.
You
wish
you
all
the
best
with
your
family
only
here
in
an
interim
basis.
Anyway,
you
didn't
stay
a
bit
longer.
R
Maybe
we
would
like
you
here,
another
short
while,
but
I
think,
as
a
council,
we
have
to
move
forward
and
have
to
sort
of
start
looking
at
getting
rid
of
these
interim
places
and
put
them
full-time
people
and
full-time
people
in
the
post.
So
the
replacement's
going
to
be
key,
and
I
was
hoping
that
you
would
stay
on,
but
you
know
even
on
a
hybrid,
but
the
habits
don't
really
work
that
way
here
on
council.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
know
that
or
not
so.
R
D
I
not
only
found
you
a
brilliant
officer
and
brought
a
great
skill
to
this
council,
but
you
were
also
a
gentleman
that
was
great
to
do
business
with,
and
you
know
we
talk
about
politics
and
politics
in
this
council
there's
an
old
saying
in
the
country.
You
know
that
some
things
open
your
eyes,
but
they
may
not.
D
You
may
not
necessarily
see
any
better,
so
I
suspect
you
have
learned
a
little
about
politics
in
northern
ireland
since
you
came
and
I'm
not
sure
whether
it
is
helped
you
or
not,
but
certainly
as
as
an
officer
and
working
with
you
and
the
the
depth
of
insight
you
had
into
and
adopted
so
quickly
to
a
scene
which
was
you
come
to
strange,
was
exceedingly
grateful
and
I
must
say
it
was,
as
I
said,
a
pleasure
to
do
business
with
you
and
on
behalf
of
my
party
grouping
and
I've
spoken
to
all
my
colleagues
in
relation
to
the
degree
of
sadness
that
we
share
that
you
are
departing
at
this
particular
time.
D
We
understand
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
bit
of
a
journey,
but
in
any
event
it
has
been
an
experience
to
us.
It
has
been
an
experience
that
has
been
worthwhile
and
I
believe
it
has
opened
eyes
to
wider
horizons
as
we
move
forward
as
a
council,
and
I
would
hope
that
when
we
get
to
the
point
of
appointing
our
new
deputy
chief
executive,
it
would
be
a
helpful,
a
part
of
that
debate.
D
I
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
on
behalf
of
the
alliance
group,
I
would
like
to
thank
mark
for
his
outstanding
contribution
to
the
council.
Over
the
last
few
years,
we
have
faced
significant
challenges,
including
the
impact
of
covert
on
services
and
revenue,
resolving
day-to-day
issues
and,
of
course,
the
working
through
the
estimates
and
capital
plan
and
mark's
strategic
thinking
and
professional
approach
has
been
absolutely
invaluable.
I
L
Yeah,
hey.
Thank
you
lord
mayor,
I
suppose
mark
this
is
the
nearest
thing
you
get
to
being
at
your
own
wake
where
people
pay
tribute
to
you,
while
you're
still
alive
and
kicking.
Can
I,
on
behalf
of
the
sdlp
group,
thank
you
most
sincerely
because
I
think,
as
others
have
said,
your
approach
has
been
the
most.
L
L
We
will
miss
you,
but
I
know
the
chief
executive
and
the
senior
team
will
also
miss
you,
because
your
experience
in
local
government
and,
I
have
to
say
local
government
across
the
water-
has
done
this
organization
a
world
of
good,
because
I
think
it
was
councillor.
Baxter
said
that
local
government
here
is
a
small
place,
and
sometimes
it
takes
the
outsider
to
come
in
and
help
blitz
through
the
the
red
tip
and
the
bureaucracy
and
the
way
we
tend
to
do
things
in
this
place.
L
M
Yes,
thank
you,
lord
martin.
Yes
thank
you
mark
for
your
service
over
the
past
few
years
and
you've
sort
of
helped
the
steers
through
some
momentous
times
and
the
pandemic
and
organizational
reviews
and
change,
and
strategic
change
and
reviews.
They've
always
found
you
very
easy
to
work
with,
and
I
just
want
to
wish
you
all
the
best
for
the
future
for
you
and
your
family,
and
hopefully
you'll,
take
some
time
out
of
lanzarote
now
to
assess
the
future
and
so
all
the
very
best.
Thank
you.