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Armagfh City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council Special Full Council Meeting on Moday the 25th of April 2022 at 12.00 noon.
B
C
E
B
H
Hey
thank
you,
lord
mayor.
We
would
not
be
in
agreement
that
we
would
go
straight
into
the
confidence,
our
confidential
business
on
this
issue.
It
is
our
view
that
large
amounts
of
the
information
that
we
will
be
provided
with
and
that
I
see
that
is
contained
within
reportedly
this
evening
have
been
added
to
confidential
business,
and
we
are
not
sure
why
that
is
being
done
in
its
entirety.
H
Obviously,
when
our
party
called
for
this
special
meeting
thursday
week
ago-
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
have
acceded
to
our
request
to
hold
it,
even
though
we
do
have
a
full
council
this
evening,
there
are
issues
around
certain
impacts
of
services
that
I
think
that
we
will
hear
in
this
forum
that
our
ratepayers
should
also
hear
and
should
be
aware
of,
and
not
just
be
told
about
necessarily
via
our
social
media
channels,
as
good
as
they
are,
and
as
good
as
declaring
the
teamwork
communicating
that.
H
So
there
are
some
issues
that
I
do
accept
and
whether
it
comes
to,
if
there's
legal
opinion
or
other
sensitive
matters
that
may
arise
this
afternoon,
that
we
do
need
to
go
into
confidential
business.
I
accept
that,
but
I
do
think
that
there
are
items
that
will
be
discussed
here
that
should
absolutely
be
in
the
open
forum
and
therefore
our
party
will
not
be
voting
to
go
into
confidential
business.
Thank
you.
So
I
propose
that
we
would
continue
an
open
session
until
we
reach
items
on
the
agenda
that
aren't
of
a
confidential
matter.
C
Thank
you,
lord
mayor
and
like
councillor
cosby,
can
I
indicate
my
appreciation
of
your
action
and
hosting
this
meeting
in
such
a
timely
fashion.
I
want
a
second
proposal
that
councillor
cosby
has
made
the
reason
we're
meeting
today
is
around
the
strike
that
the
united
union
has
started
today.
C
It's
not
for
us
to
take
a
position
as
to
whether
the
case
is
justified
or
not
that's
between
the
union
of
management,
but
the
strike
will
impact
on
the
ratepayers
of
the
borough
and
therefore,
at
the
very
first
point,
we
need
to
inform
them
exactly
what
will
happen
and
what
outcomes
there
could
be.
So
I
gladly
second
the
proposal.
B
Many
thanks
members
and,
in
my
opinion,
the
discussion
during
the
special
meeting
is
likely
to
invoke
the
following
three
strands
of
exempt
information
under
schedule.
Six
of
the
local
government
act
2014
number
one
information
relating
to
the
financial
or
business
affairs
of
any
particular
person.
B
This
is
likely
to
be
case
if
there's
a
discussion
which
contractors
we
could
be
approached
to
deliver,
services
impact
on
the
strike,
logistics
office
or
the
cost
off.
Also
any
discussion
on
the
overall
cost
to
council
of
the
industrial
action
number
two
information
in
connection
with
the
release.
Labor
relations
matters
arising
from
the
council
on
employees
and
number
three
information
in
relation
to
claim
to
legal
professional
privilege
could
be
maintained
in
legal
proceedings.
B
My
opinion,
information
pertaining
to
the
above,
we
discussed
in
the
meeting.
It
is
in
the
public,
interesting
exceptions
above
and
go
into
confidential
session.
This
outweighs
the
public
interest
in
discussion,
information
and
open
session.
This
is
due
to
the
fact
any
discussion
on
such
issues
could
be
taken
out
of
context,
attract
a
costly
and
likely
legal
challenge,
especially
in
relation.
I
I
Yes,
that
that
was
my
legal
advice
that
you
were
reading
out
lord
mayor,
it
was,
it
depends
on
on
obviously
the
logistics
of,
and
the
practicalities
of,
the
issues
that
you
discuss
in
that.
If,
if
the
discussion
doesn't
have
clear
parameters
and
that
you
you
know,
the
discussion
goes
into
commercial
aspects
and
our
procurement,
you
know
the
application
or
procurement
handbook
and
the
risks
associated
with
that.
Also,
you
know
discussion
about
the
actual
industrial
action.
I
If
it
can't
be
clearly
delineated,
it
may
be
very
difficult
because
you
will
be
then
having
to
go
into
confidential
session
and
in
and
out,
and
it's
the
practicalities
of
that.
Also,
so
I
mean
from
a
safer
aspect.
If
you're
going
to
be
discussing
those
issues
and
commercial
aspects,
industrial
action,
you
know
my
advice
would
be
more
prudent
and
cleaner
to
simply
do
it
in
confidential
session.
If
it's
not,
you
know
if,
if
there's
not
clear
parameters
and
we're
not
able
to
discuss
it
in
that
in
that
way,
thank
you
love
me.
B
H
Hey,
thank
you,
lord
mayor.
I
think
that's
why.
Whenever
I
started
with
my
comments,
I
believe
that
there
is
information
that
is
in
the
public
interests
that
the
public
are
aware
of,
which
is
why
you
know,
I
think,
in
relation
to
some
of
the
service
updates
that
we're
being
provided
with.
I
I
don't
see
how
that
falls
into
any
of
the
the
pieces
of
information
that
you've
read
out,
and
you
know
I
am
not
aware
of
anything
I
guess
on
the
papers
for
the
council,
certainly
that
have
come
through.
H
In
fact,
when
I
checked
before
I
got
here
this
morning,
there
were
actually
new
papers
on
it.
Only
for
this
morning,
left
they've
just
been
dropped
in
and
some
my
colleagues
can
appraise
me
of
that,
because
my
ipod
isn't
just
here,
but
so
there
would
be
no
discussion
about
financial
or
business
affairs.
Is
my
understanding
at
this
point
in
time
and
cost
to
council
of
industrial
action?
This
is
I
mean
this
is
public
money.
This
is
reit
pairs
money.
H
I
don't
know
why
we
would
be
putting
that
into
a
confidential
session
when
we're
talking
about.
You
know
how
much
this
will
ultimately
cost
the
council,
even
in
a
roundabout
way
and
in
relation
to
labour
relations.
H
I'll
say
this:
our
party
have
worked
very
hard
for
the
past
seven
years
and
we
will
be
on
record
as
having
done
so
calling
for
progress
on
the
issues
that
will
significantly
improve
labour
relations
across
this
council,
and
that
will
not
be
a
surprise
to
anybody,
and
so
from
that
perspective
I
appreciate
why
we
can't
get
into
the
ministry
of
detail
on
some
of
those
issues,
but
for
the
purpose
of
starting
out
this
meeting,
I
feel
that
it
is
important
that,
as
a
council,
that
you
know,
we
acknowledge
that
you
know
to
our
ratepayers
that
there
absolutely
will
be
service
disruption
and
I
think
some
of
the
mitigations
that
we
are
putting
in
place.
H
I
also
think
that
should
potentially
be
put
in
to
the
open
session,
because
I
don't
think
they
prejudice
any
of
the
items
that
you
read
out,
lord
mer,
and
so
from
that
perspective
you
know,
I
don't
think
we
should
just
automatically
you
know,
go
into
confidential
session
of
the
council,
because,
yes,
I
accept
that
it's
important
and
that
has
a
role
and
there's
legal
privilege
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff.
But
there
are
items
just
here
that
we
would
like
an
open
forum
and
that's
how
we
will
vote
on
this
basis.
G
Thank
you,
lord
murray,
as
I
think
you
mean
that
there's
vitally
important
donald
caution,
members
against
going
against
it,
that
we
adhere
to
the
very
strict
legal
advice
that
we've
obtained
from
kate
issues
about
service
delivery
can
all
be
communicated
to
the
public
by
our
communications
department
on
and
it
will
be,
but
I
think
it's
important
given
the
issues
that
are
potentially
going
to
come
up,
that
we
listen
to
the
legal
advice
and
and
stay
in
confidential.
Thank
you.
Lord
mayor.
J
Lord
mayor,
I
have
heard
what
has
been
said
in
relation
to
it
and
I
find
it
difficult
to
understand
how
we
are
going
to
get
through
this
issue
in
total
confidence.
If
we're
in
and
out,
I
could
see
issues
whereby
it
could
raise
its
head
in
the
discussion
and
I
I
think
it
would
be
extremely
difficult
for
yourself
or
anyone
else.
Indeed,
there
are
some
issues
that
that
I
personally
would
direct
careers
and
I
I
know
there
would
be
issues
that
would
possibly
reflect
on
whether
it
should
be
in
confidence
or
not.
J
Well,
unless
you
have
a
terrified
by
others,
I
I
honestly
believe
it
is
wise
to
follow
it,
but
I
have
no
issue
with
the
whole
thing
been
in
public
forum.
It's
not
that
I
or
my
party
have
anything
to
hide:
it's
not
an
issue.
We
are
fully
supportive
of
the
council
and
the
working
with
the
unions.
As
regards
how
events
of
this
nature
are
sorted
out,
there
is
a
a
management
structure
that
obviously
has
to
be
involved
in
sorting
out
any
problems.
J
There
are
with
the
unions
or
the
strike
action,
but
I
could
see
circumstances
within
a
debate
whereby
it
it
would
be
dangerous
to
have
a
an
open
forum
and
it
could
be
disadvantages
to
council
in
terms
or
indeed,
those
who
would
be
eventually
discussing
the
issues
with
the
unions.
As
regards
the
settlement
of
of
this
dispute.
F
F
Yes,
we
have
the
repair,
we
also
have
our
staff
and
I
think
it's
important
that
our
staff
see
that
we
respect
them
and
that
we
value
their
contribution,
and
you
know,
whilst
I
very
much
would
prefer
to
be
doing
all
this
in
the
public
forum,
I'm
minded
to
take
legal
advice
and
listen
to
legal
advice
and
as
much
as
I
would
prefer
a
I
think.
F
I
completely
reject
that,
but
douglas
said
I
will
accept
the
the
legal
advice
I'm
going
to
to
private
enter
the
committee.
If
that
is
what
has
been
proposed.
E
Thank
you,
lord
mary,
and
I
should
take
a
bit
of
exception
to
what
counselor
hanlon
has
said.
This
isn't
about
third
parties.
This
is
about
mitigations,
that
kind
of
can
put
in
place.
That
may
be
a
part
of
the
discussion,
but
there's
a
lot
more
issues
than
that,
and
I
don't
think
it's
fair.
I
think
it's
a
bit
disingenuous
for
councillor.
Holland,
to
you
know,
point
the
finger
of
blame
without
actually
saying
the
name
of.
E
What's
going
to
take
place,
we
very
much
support
our
staff
and
their
right
to
get
a
third
day's
pay
for
a
fair
day's
work.
We
are
told
by
the
chief
executive
and
others
that
we
have
no
power
to
change
that
this
isn't
about
this,
isn't
about
that
this
yet
well,
first
and
foremost,
break
strike
in
the
next
two
weeks.
We've
had
issues
with
this
service
over
the
last
number
of
weeks.
E
Indeed,
there
are
bins
and
or
more
that
haven't
been
emptied
from
the
19th
of
april
and
they're
not
going
to
be
now
probably
for
five
or
six
weeks
in
total,
so
that
this
isn't
about
our
staff.
This
is
about
the
management
of
the
crisis
that
we're
in
yes
and
while
the
strike
exhaust
exacerbates
that
there's
there's
more
of
a
crisis
at
hand
here.
E
So
I
think
it's
a
very
unfair
thing
for
for
counselor
rohan
to
say
we
are
very
supportive
of
the
staff,
but
this
is
about
a
series
of
mitigations
that
council
can
put
in
place
and
it's
not
just
about
relief
staff
or
third
parties.
E
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
in
the
record,
and
certainly
I
think-
and
that's
probably
one
of
the
main
reasons
that
we
want
this
in
public
session,
so
that
all
those
involved
can
hear
and
the
support
we
have
for
them
and
for
the
staff
and
for
the
great
pair
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
is
the
real
pair
that
that's
pet,
that's
paying
the
bills,
and
I
think,
they're
very
right
to
hear
and
what
the
counselors
have
to
say.
So
I
just
want
to
put
down
my
quote.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
I
concur
with
what
my
colleagues
have
said
in
relation
to
this.
One
of
the
questions
that
I
wanted
to
ask
this
morning
was
in
relation
to
an
update
we
received
earlier
this
morning.
There
is
no
mention
of
street
cleansing
in
it
street
cleansing,
impacts
on
every
business
and
all
of
our
time
centers
and
it
impacts
on
the
cleanliness
of
the
borough.
C
Alright,
I
wanted
to
ask
what
mitigation
had
been
put
in
for
street
cleansing,
but
it
seems
now
due
to
legal
advice
which
has
been
sought
very
quickly
and
which
some
parties
seem
to
be
prepared
to
just
accept
carte
blanche
that
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
discuss
this
in
public,
and
yet
it
impacts
on
every
red
pair
across
this
borough,
and
this
council
is
closing
down
and
go
on
behind
doors
to
discuss
it.
I
think
it's
ridiculous.
B
L
B
M
I
J
L
G
Yes,
lord
mer,
yes,
troy,
dortmur.
I
think
that
the
vote
just
taken
to
convey
and
continue
with
the
meeting
in
public,
contrary
to
the
very
very
clear
legal
advice,
would
place
members
in
breach
of
the
code
of
conduct
and
our
party
will
be
withdrawn
from
the
latin.
At
this
time.
We
very
much
support
our
staff
and
all
workers
on
their
right
to
strike
for
fair
pay.
G
N
Thank
you,
lord
mayor
and
lord
mayor.
If
I
can
maybe
just
give
a
bit
of
an
overview
and
members
will
be
aware
that
the
united
strike
has
commenced
today
and
will
cause
disruption
to
essential
public
services
right
across
northern
ireland,
including
our
own
council,
education
and
other
sectors,
the
period
of
industrialist
strike
will
run
from
monday,
the
25th
of
april
to
sunday,
the
1st
of
may
and
then
tuesday,
the
3rd
to
sunday.
N
N
Bin
collections
unfortunately,
cannot
be
guaranteed
during
the
period
of
the
industrial
action
there
will
be
disruption
to
bin
collections
during
the
strike
period.
We
would
ask
residents
to
leave
out
their
bins
for
collection
on
their
normal
day
and
where
we
have
crews
available,
and
they
will
be
emptied
where
there
is
sufficient
crews
available
to
undertake
those
duties.
N
If
bins
aren't
emptied,
we
would
ask
residents
to
take
their
bins
back
in
from
the
curbside
and
place
them
out
on
their
next
scheduled
collection
date.
For
that
we
stream
in
color,
which
will
be
commencing
the
9th
of
may
for
collections
that
are
missed
on
the
25th
of
april
and
for
collections
missed
on
the
2nd
of
may.
They
will
return
to
normal
collection
on
monday,
the
16th.
N
Clubs
and
individuals
have
been
contacted
and
where
possible,
we've
tried
to
reschedule
those
and,
as
a
council,
we
do
recognize
the
adverse
impact
and
wish
to
reassure
residents
and
customers
that
we
will
move
back
to
full
service
as
soon
as
possible.
N
We
are
keeping
the
situation
under
review
on
a
daily
basis
and
we
are
looking
at
what
we
can
do
with
the
available
resources
that
we
have
each
day
and
we
will
also
be
very
proactive
in
putting
out
our
calms
to
the
public
and
and
also
our
elected
members,
on
the
the
impact
and,
as
I
outlined
at
the
start,
this
is
a
strike
that
is
impacting
on
a
range
of
public
services,
other
councils
within
local
government
and
also
other
public
services
across
the
board.
N
B
Thank
you
very
much
sean
I'd
like
to
advise
members
of
us
for
stanley
motor
3.2
request
just
made
on
behalf
of
the
ep
party,
great
bond
council,
the
holdus
hybrid
special
meeting.
The
purpose
of
the
meeting
is
to
discuss
the
first
common
strike,
I'm
going
to
call
upon
the
ep
party
to
speak
a
representative
from
the
dep
to
speak
on
this
issue.
E
Sorry,
lord
murr,
I
just
really
had
a
question
in
terms
of
we
had
talked
about
the
mitigations
that
were
put
in
place
for
this
for
the
strike,
but
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
misinformation,
john
and
I
met
with
roger
chief
executive
in
terms
of
actually
what
the
disputes
about.
Maybe
you
can
just
outline
because
there
seems
a
lot
of
misinformation
haven't
spoken
to
to
members
of
staff
and
I
think
a
lot
of
them
think
that
we
can,
as
a
council,
actually
look
at
this.
E
This
pay
dispute
on
sorted
out
for
from
our
land,
but
the
chief
executive
has
told
us
that
it's
a
national
as
a
national
dispute.
It
has
to
be
done
on
a
different
level.
Could
you
just
set
that
out?
For
us?
Please,
and
just
you
know,
clarify
clarify
the
counselor's
position
on
certain
on
setting
the
wages
in
terms
of
conditions.
Please.
O
Thank
you,
lord
mayor
and
council
of
actors
rights.
I
gave
an
update
to
party
leaders
about
10
days
ago
just
setting
some
of
the
context
and
background,
as
certainly
we
see
it
from
the
employer
side
and
from
the
management
side.
This
dispute,
as
we
have
been
notified,
is
in
relation
to
the
pay
award.
O
It
is
the
pay
award
for
the
year
at
21
22
and
the
pay
negotiations
that
are
conducted.
They
are
conducted
on
behalf
of
all
of
local
government
and
other
public
services
as
well.
So
all
of
local
government
in
northern
ireland
and
our
colleagues
across
the
water
are
part
and
parcel
of
those
negotiations.
O
O
Those
negotiations
are
now
commencing
and
the
unions
will
be
as
expected,
submitting
their
claim
if
they
haven't
already
done
so
to
the
employer
side.
This
dispute
is
in
relation
to
one
trade
union.
We
have
a
number
of
other
trade
unions,
but
this
dispute
is
with
unite
the
union
who
are
in
dispute
with
ourselves
they
claim,
and
with
the
other
councils,
we
have
not
received
any
bid
or
request
from
unite
with
regard
to
what
the
nation,
what
the
nature
of
this
pay
dispute
is
about
with
regards
to
a
settlement.
O
O
That
does
not
mean,
however,
under
sharon
has
already
apologized,
and
that
does
not
mean
that
there
isn't,
unfortunately,
on
occasion
like
this,
where
there
is
industrial
action
that
leads
to
this
sort
of
impact
on
services,
and
we
do
apologize
to
the
public
for
that,
but
that
lord
mayor
sets
the
background.
This
is
the
2122
pay.
The
negotiations
take
place
at
that
national
level,
and
the
advice
from
the
employer
side
that
that
we
have
received
is
very
much
that
we
implement
the
pay
award
and
or
continue
on
that
being.
O
E
Thank
you,
lord
martin,
thanks
for
that
clarification,
roger
because
I
don't
think
that's
very
clear,
maybe
with
some
members
and
of
staff
out
there
just
in
terms
of
the
position
that
we're
in
now
before
the
before
the
strike
happened.
We
we
know
that
there
was
quite
a
few
missed,
missed
pins
and
straight
cleansing
issues
and
street
sweeping
issues
over
this
last
number
of
weeks,
and
I
know
we
have
fallen
quite
short,
maybe
as
a
result
of
of
segments
or
maybe
as
a
result
of
the
last
strike.
E
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
to
know:
there's
quite
a
few
misspends
still
in
the
dremore
on
the
outliners
in
the
ranger
board.
Are
they
going
to
be
prioritized
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
given
that
they're
not
as
a
result
of
the
strike
and
are
what
actually
is
the
position
going
forward
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks?
N
Okay,
thank
you,
lord
marin,
through
you,
I
may
be
just
beginning
in
relation
to
councillor,
baxter's
queries
and
barry
has
had
a
department.
I
want
to
come
in
and
add
to
this
in
in
relation
to
the
misspin
collections
in
dramora.
Unfortunately,
that
was
due
to
operational
resourcing
issues
around
the
easter
period,
the
holiday
period.
We
have
had
some
additional
crews
going
out
and
trying
to
pick
up
on
those,
and
that
is
is
continuing,
but
I
appreciate
there
is
still
a
backlog
of
bins
there.
N
I
think
the
other
comment
that
counselor
baxter
had
raised
was
in
relation
to
degree,
numbers
and
you'll
appreciate.
Obviously,
we
are
operating
at
reduced
crew
levels
and
we
are
the
crews
are
going
out
across
each
of
the
locations
across
the
borough
and
seeking
to
endeavor
to
collect
as
many
bins
as
we
can
with
the
available
resources
that
we
have
on
a
daily
basis,
but
I'll,
maybe
just
pass
to
barry.
If
there's
anything
more,
you
want
that.
P
Thank
you,
lord
mayor.
Thank
you,
sean,
yes
to
clarify
the
the
missed
benz
over
easter.
It
was
caused
because,
obviously,
six
to
nine
months
beforehand,
officers
and
unions
on
our
staff
will
agree
the
holidays
that
we
are
taking
higher.
That
is
going
to
be
covered,
for
example,
but
when
it
comes
to
that
individual
day
that
is
down
to
an
individual
member
of
staff,
if
they
wish
to
work
the
overtime
and
in
relation
to
bambridge,
a
large
proportion
of
the
staff
decided
that
they
were
not
going
to
work
that
over
time.
P
So
that
way,
that's
why
there
was
an
impact
in
from
the
bomb
bridge
depot,
and
that
is,
as
sharon
said.
That's
what
we
were
trying
to
catch
up
then,
but
again,
any
catch-up
we
have
with.
That
is
completely
reliant
on
our
staff
volunteering
to
do
overtime
and-
and
that
has
happened-
it
didn't
get
them
all
and
it
won't
get
them
all
in
relation
to
lifting
those
ones
that
had
been
missed
for
that
period
of
time.
P
When
their
next
spin
collection
day
is,
we
will
prioritize
those
individual
routes
and
we
will
get
to
those
if
we
can,
depending
again
on
how
many
staff
we
physically
have
on
that
day.
So
they
will
be
prioritized
on
the
next
collection
day,
but
we
are
still
being
held
by
the
fact
of
how
many
staff
we
get
in
on
that
day
in
the
same
way
as
there
is
disruption
to
ben
ridge
throughout
the
bar
today,
because
of
staff
being
off
on
strike.
So
I
hope
that
clarifies
it
somewhat.
H
Thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
I
again
just
as
she
said
out,
we
did
call
the
special
meeting
and
it
was
on
the
basis
of
for
both
ourselves
as
elected
representatives
who
will
deal
with
the
public
on
this
issue
on
a
very
regular
basis.
No
doubt
over
the
next
number
of
weeks,
and
obviously
we
will
feed
that
through
to
officers
where
we
practically
can
and
so
for
us.
H
We
felt
it
was
really
important
that
we
got
a
full
picture
of
the
current
situation
and
circumstances,
and
I
you
know
we
called
the
special
meeting
based
on
the
information
we
had
got
some
ten
days
ago
at
the
party
leaders
meeting,
and
I
was
concerned
that
I
felt
at
that
stage
that
as
a
council,
we
were
not
doing
what
we
believed
was
absolutely
everything
we
potentially
could
or
explore
every
option
or
opportunity
that
we
could
to
try
and
mitigate
against
the
impact
of
the
strike.
H
Action
and
much
has
been
said
about
private
contractors,
and
I
want
to
address
that
point
very
clearly.
If
I
can,
it
shouldn't
come
as
a
surprise
that
we
would
even
suggest
that,
because,
on
the
25th
of
march
at
the
monthly
council
meeting,
I
believe
it
was
the
25th
of
march
that
it
was
raised
there
as
an
option
for
a
very
short
period
of
time
to
deal
with
what
had
become
quite
a
significant
backlog
of
waste
that
had
not
been
collected,
and
that
was
the
purpose
of
that.
H
That
is
the
purpose
then,
of
our
position
on
that
today
is
that
we
feel
that
something
like
that
as
a
mitigation
should
have
at
least
been
explored
as
an
option.
It
wasn't
and
it
wasn't
considered
in
our
view,
on
our
view.
At
that
stage,
in
the
country
meeting,
we
failed
as
a
party
was
not
taken
seriously
or
acted
upon
in
any
way,
shape
or
form,
and
that
for
us
is
deeply
unfortunate,
but
to
say
this
and
much
has
been
said
about
privatization
of
bins
and
other
bits
and
pieces.
H
That
is
certainly
not
a.
You
know
our
position.
We
wouldn't
adopt
that
position,
certainly
without
any
information
in
relation
to
it.
We
know
that
there's
a
process
that
is
to
be
undertaken
for
the
department
and
all
considerations
will
have
to
be
given
throughout
that
process.
That
is
prudent.
That
is
proper
knowledge,
correct
procedure,
that's
what
we
will
observe
and
engage
in.
But
what
I'll
say
is
this?
We
are
going
to
face
significant
disruption
across
this
borough
and
and
the
people
who
are
still
at
work.
H
The
unions
who
do
not
agree
with
this
dispute
currently
who
are
still
working
whose
members
are
still
working,
are
having
to
pick
up
the
slack
for
those
others
who
are
not
at
work,
and
this
is
not
about
a
position
of
a
union
at
all
they're
entitled
to
take
strike
action
and
they're
entitled
to
put
a
list
of
demands
on
the
table
and
I'll
address
that
point
in
just
a
second.
H
But
our
concern
is
the
relationship
that
we
have
with
our
ratepayers
and
the
credibility
the
council
have,
with
our
ratepayers
and
being
able
to
deliver
an
effective
service.
We
do
feel
somewhat
frustrated
and
that
we
don't
necessarily
think
the
department
was
fully
prepared
for
any
strike,
let
alone
in
two
weeks
strike,
and
we
will
also
say
this.
H
The
conversation
we
are
having
today
are
about
one
thing:
to
make
sure
that
we
can
mitigate
against
the
impact
of
reduced
services
as
opposed
to
looking
at
doing
something
entirely
different
and
delivering
the
services
a
new
way.
That's
not
what
this
is
about
at
all.
H
So
I
want
to
make
that
very
clear
but
roger
you
said
something,
and
I
know
you
did
mention
it
at
the
party
leaders
forum,
but
I
note
this
morning
as
I'm
following
just
some
of
the
the
commentary
on
the
news
over
the
last
couple
of
days
and
yesterday,
a
united
official
has
insisted
that
the
niles
by
irma
city
of
ambridge
cregumber
council,
that
there
it
has
no
power
over
staff,
pay
structures
which
could
avert
forthcoming
strike.
He
says
they're,
not
true,
and
that
was
quoted
norma.
H
I
yesterday
and
megan
mckenna
wrote
that
story,
and
I
know
council
then
have
put
a
statement
about
addressing
those
issues
and
I
I
am
hearing
you
correct
when
you
said
that,
when
unite
notified
of
the
strike,
there
was
nothing
put
on
the
table
for
us
to
discuss
or
negotiate.
Is
that
correct?
Is
that
the
position.
O
Lord
mayor,
just
to
confirm
that
that
is
the
position
that
the
pay
award
is
agreed
and
negotiated
nationally
and
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
I
haven't
seen
any
bid
that
has
come
from
unite
the
union
with
regard
to
the
current
dispute.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
thank
you,
and
so
on
that
basis,
we
as
a
council
have
not
been
asked
to
do
anything
which
could
potentially
avert
strike
action
that
is
within
our
apartment
in
our
grasp
and
I'm
sure
there
are
some
things
that
are,
but
those
I'm
sure
will
come
with
with
reviews
and
and
all
of
the
other
processes
that
we
have
in
place.
H
H
The
other
question
that
just
that
I
do
have
is
in
relation
to
and
look
if
I'm
asking
a
question
and
you
feel
that
it's
much
better
suited
in
confidential
business
I'll
absolutely
hear
that
out
no
problem
at
all,
but
my
question
is
in
relation
to
obviously
the
impacts,
the
mitigation
that
we
have
in
place.
I
know
there's
a
report
due
to
come
this
evening.
I
don't
see
anything
in
it
entirely.
That
would
say
to
me
that
should
be
all
confidential
either.
H
I
must
say
that,
but
I
appreciate
that
I
do
have
it,
but
in
relation
to
a
call
for
redeployment
or
movement
of
teams,
I
guess
in
some
respects
that
we
did
around
the
pandemic.
Whenever
we
had
pressures
on
the
system
granted.
I
know
large
parts
of
our
operations
were
shut
down
and
maybe
staff
were
much
more
free.
I
appreciate
that,
but
largely
looking
at
across
the
council
and
dominic.
H
You
knew
this
probably
from
income
figures
more
than
anything
else
that
in
some
places
there
is
not
as
much
public
use
in
some
of
our
facilities,
maybe
as
there
previously
would
have
been
and
have
we
put
out
a
call
to
see
if
anybody
would
be
prepared
to
step
up
step
in
and
to
take
some
of
the
pressure
off
and
assist
those
who
who
are
out
on
delivering
the
service
that
we
need.
Thank
you.
N
Thank
you.
Councillor
calls
me
for
for
the
the
questions
there
that
you
posed
and
I
think,
as
you've
suggested,
I
would
suggest
it
probably
is
better
to
go
into
confidential
business
just
to
pick
up
on
those
points,
if
that's
appropriate,
please.
B
C
My
my
real
concern
here
is
around
communication,
especially
with
the
rate
payers,
and
I
know
that
there
has
been
some
information
put
out
and
social
media
on
behalf
of
council
to
keep
people
updated,
and
the
director
gave
us
an
overview
this
morning,
but
counselors
have
received
an
email
in
relation
to
service
updates,
and
you
know
I
think
we
have
to
tell
the
ratepayers
out
there
it
as
it
is.
C
You
know
we
have
been
formed
this
morning
that
on
our
seven
crews,
out
of
20
working
and
that's
35
of
the
crews
and
bambridge
two
and
a
half
out
of
ten,
which
equates
to
25
and
then
craig
aven
17
out
of
19,
which
equates
to
nearly
90.
So
we
can
see
straight
away
which
parts
of
the
borough
are
likely
to
be
more
impacted
by
the
strike
in
relation
to
refuge
collections.
C
So
I
would
ask
that
we
give
more
detailed
information
about
on
the
on
the
social
social
media
so
that
people
can
make
their
own
assessment
in
relation
to
what
is
likely
to
happen
and
the
likelihood
of
having
their
bin
empty
in
the
next
week
or
two.
I
think
that's
very
important
and
it
will
help
the
dampen
a
lot
of
the
unhelpful
speculation
that
goes
about
it.
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
alderman
mitry,
for
your
your
comments
there
and
look
at
it.
Take
the
point
on
board
and
obviously
this
is
a
situation.
That's
very
dynamic,
we're
dealing
with
the
day
by
day,
but
if
we
can
get
greater
clarity
around
there,
it's
most
predominantly
impacted,
but
certainly
not
that
for
the
public
calls.
O
And
lord
mayor,
I
suppose,
maybe
just
by
way
of
clarification,
then
in
regards
because
I'm
conscious,
we
are
in
public
session
the
reason
for
those
it
relates
to
where
the
numbers
of
unite
members
obviously
are.
I
know
it's
a
fairly
obvious
thing,
but
I
think
it
may
be
helpful
just
to
state
for
the
record.
That's
why
the
numbers
are
what
they
are.
Lord
mayor.
D
D
Could
I
ask,
would
it
be
possible
to
get
some
resources
attracted
to
the
vermour
area?
In
particular,
they
are
severely
impacted.
There's
been
sitting
about
everywhere,
as
I
think
it
was
councillor.
Savage
last
week
said:
dramore
is
forgotten
about,
and
it
certainly
seems
to
be
that
way
with
regards
to
the
picking
up
of
our
bins
over
as
past
five
or
six
weeks
never
mind
just
the
past
couple
of
weeks,
but
also
in
relation
to
the
recycling
center
andrew
moore
be
opened.
D
I've
got
different
messages
since
saturday
passed
from
constituents,
repairs
who
prepared
to
dump
their
refuge
along
the
road.
That's
how
they're
feeling.
Surely
we
want
to
alleviate
that?
Not
the
fly
tipping
down
to
the
problems
when
we
come
out
of
this
strike
and
they're
well
entitled,
as
we
have
said,
to
strike,
but
could
we
maybe
divert
some
services
to
you
tomorrow
and
try
to
keep
the
recycling
centers
open
tomorrow?
Refrain
boundaries
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
Thank.
P
Thank
you,
lord
mayor.
Yes,
in
relation
to
dremore,
it's
similar
to
what
roger
has
just
said.
P
The
reason
why
dremore
area
was
particularly
affected
was
because
of
the
number
of
united
members
in
dramore
and
and
coming
out
of
our
bomb
bridge
depot,
not
one
to
repeat
myself,
the
that
was
caused,
because
individual
members
of
staff
have
a
right
whether
or
not
to
work
on
a
bank
holiday
and
those
members
in
that
particular
depot
had
decided
they
weren't
going
to
do
that.
We
then
did
try
to
clear
up
as
you
and
I
were
communicating
about
that-
wasn't
completed
out
the
next
collection.
P
We
will
prioritize
that
with
the
staff
that
are
available
at
that
particular
point
in
time
again
relating
to
the
strike,
but
as
as
roger
pointed
out,
the
places
of
the
highest
impact
are
the
places
that
united
members
have
a
higher
number
physically
in
relation
to
the
drama
recycling
center.
I
think
that
would
probably
be
best
discussed
similar
to
councilor
cosby's
matter
about
staff,
so
I
think
that
might
be
better
discussed
under
confidential
business.
If
I
could
lord
mayor.
Q
Thank
you,
lord
mark,
with
all
due
respect
for
more
we're,
I
think
we're
getting.
Maybe
we
but
mixed
up
here
with
a
strike
on
the
services
that
there
more
have
been
receiving
before
that
there's
bins
in
jamaica
haven't
been
empty
for
a
couple
of
weeks.
Q
Yeah
I
hear
what
you're
saying
I
understand
that,
but
quite
frankly,
that's
not
good
enough.
So
it's
not
my
eyes
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
Andrew
moore
needs
to
be
sorted
out
as
soon
as
possible.
There's
people
I
have
a
gentleman
on
with
me.
70
odd
year
old,
open
heart
surgery
he's
pulling
the
bin
in
a
night
every
blooming
day
of
the
week.
We
get
information,
keep
the
bins
out,
bins
are
then
blocking
pavements
and
all
people
with
wheelchairs
can't
get
down
past
them
because
the
bins
are
sitting
out.
Q
I
know
it's
limited
to
what
we
can
do,
but
there's
other
things
within
the
green
book
that
we
all
hear
about,
and
I
think
this
needs
to
be
started
as
soon
as
possible
and
what
council
can
do
to
alleviate
that
going
forward.
We
need
to
be
doing
that
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
do
that
as
soon
as
possible.
So
today.
Thank
you.
Lord.
M
Yes,
lord
murph,
thank
you
for
letting
me
in
on
this
one,
and
I
guess
it's
just
to
pick
up
on
what
colleagues
have
said,
and
you
know
the
situation
that
we
find
ourselves
in
has
been
going
on
for
a
number
of
weeks.
So
there
has
been
disruption
for
a
number
of
weeks,
so
there
has
been
numbers
of
staff
out
and
so
on.
We
understand
that
we
hear
all
that,
but
surely
a
trend
has
developed
in
terms
of
what
on
a
daily
basis
or
what
on
a
weekly
basis,
is
actually
possible.
M
Given
what
happened
the
previous
day
or
the
previous
week
or
whatever
so
I
mean.
So
if
you
take
that
as
as
a
given
and
then
come
on
to
the
communication
thing,
you
know
we
don't
want
bland
messages
coming
from
council
saying.
If
you
keep
your
bins
out,
they
will
be
collected
someday.
We
don't
want
hoped
for,
and
I
think
that
if
there
could
be
even
a
for
a
start,
a
little
bit
of
communication
between
staff
and
us
as
members
in
the
first
instance
and
then
on
to
our
ratepayers.
M
M
Therefore,
let's
take
it
to
a
stage
further
and
do
and
do
an
exercise
on
that,
and
I
think,
as
a
start
coming
to
us
as
a
elected
members
and
explaining
some
of
that,
and
then
we
can
help
officers
in
terms
of
the
communication
piece
to
the
ratepayers,
because
the
ratepayers
folks
are
central
to
this.
All.
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
lord
mayor,
and
maybe
picking
up
on
a
counselor,
kyle
salvages
a
point
around
the
green
book,
and
maybe,
if
I
ask
roger
or
sharon
my
understand
is
that
other
councils
have
brought
staff
representatives
around
the
table
to
try
and
discuss
some
of
the
issues,
particularly
our
colleagues
in
darien,
strabane
council.
F
You
know,
I
would
think
that
at
least
if
we
were
trying
to
engage
with
staff
now-
and
I
know
roger-
you
said
that
at
the
start
of
the
striker
that
said
of
this
and
that
you
have
received
no
notification,
and
I
pretend
that's
in
writing,
whereas
so
some
staff
say
they're
sent
to
us
that
and
there's
been
verbal
conversations
with
with
senior
staff.
So
I
think
that
maybe
bringing
some
of
the
staff
representatives
in
and
having
a
discussion
and
seeing
where
we
can
work
together.
F
Okay,
if
there's
if
this
is
through
other
negotiation
bodies
and
that's
what
would
have
been
advised.
However,
there
seems
to
be,
I
think,
what
counselor
savage
has
said.
There's
there's
also
areas
where
we
as
a
local
authority,
can
move
on
and
and
it's
not
just
in
terms
of
pay,
it's
around
conditions.
It's
around
how
we
work
with
staff
and
even
my
understanding.
F
Some
of
our
issues
around
moving
to
the
four-day
week
in
the
refuge
side
has
been
causing
some
concerns,
so
I
you
know,
I
always
find
it
better
to
to
discuss
these
things
out
and
try
and
improve
relations
in
that
way.
Roger,
are
you
aware
of
other
councils?
Any
efforts
have
been
made
to
try
and
resolve
this,
and
is
it
something
that
you
would
consider
as
the
chief
executive
with
us
in
terms
of
a
having
some
sort
of
engagement
with
a
union
representatives
to
see
if
this
can
be
resolved.
O
Lauren
maher,
I
I
know
that
all
or
if
not
all
most
of
the
councils
are
affected
by
this
action,
and
I
think
there
are
different
types
of
conversations
and
discussions
going
on.
We
are
and
have
been
having
our
own
conversations.
O
I
think
whenever
it
comes
to
pain
conditions
again,
maybe
just
to
remind
members
of
the
point
I
made
at
the
start.
This
is
a
dispute
that
is
with
unite
the
union
as
opposed
to
all
of
the
industrial
or
all
of
the
trade
unions.
So
any
of
the
conversations
we
are
having
are
across
with
all
of
them.
I
again
haven't
seen
or
heard
of
a
specific
pay
or
a
pay
and
conditions
request
that
that
has
come
forward.
O
That
is
a
normal
order
and
that
there
would
be
for
something
like
this,
and
it
was
certainly
part
of
the
discussions
that
we
had
recently
whenever
we
met
with
all
of
the
trade
unions,
and
we
obviously
have
ongoing
conversations-
and
we
have
other
meetings
at
planned
for
the
diary.
So
we
will
always
discuss
these,
but
whenever
it
comes
to
this
particular
dispute,
this
relates
back
as
far
as
we
are
concerned
to
the
pay
award.
O
If
somebody
wants
to
talk
about
the
wider
conditions,
which
are
part
of
an
ongoing
conversation
that
we're
having
anyhow
part
of
the
the
the
wider
discussions
of
part
of
the
modernization,
as
some
countries
have
already
referred
to,
those
conversations
are
happening
and
are
ongoing
and
we
look
to
see
what
the
impact
of
those
would
be
on
the
organization
as
well
as
trying
to
address
further.
Is
that
impact
on
individuals
who
are
taking
this
dispute.
F
Thanks
roger.
F
We've
continued
to
empty
bins
and
continue
to
be
out
there
on
the
front
line
of
the
service
whenever
large
parts
of
the
economy
in
large
parts
of
the
public
sector
went
into
shutdown
and
and
even
those
who
worked
in
other
parts
of
our
council
moved
to
this
service
to
try
and
keep
these
services
going.
I
don't
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
experienced
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks
have
a
are
all
as
a
result
of
the
previous
industrial
action.
F
We've
had
still
had
a
covert
with
many
in
our
workforce
and
for
those
who
maybe
even
consider
a
third
sector
provider
or
someone
from
another
side.
Let's
put
it
like
that,
give
you
one
word:
bryson
we've
tried
it
we've
seen.
Hers
worked.
Ask
the
residents
in
the
arm
at
the
legacy
arma
area,
how
things
have
worked
out
there,
so
I
genuinely
think
that
it
would
be.
We
should
maybe
try
and
take
the
opportunity
and
I'm
picking
up
some
of
the
the
comments
there
from
roger.
F
Maybe
is
it
an
opportunity
to
to
talk
to
staff
that
wee
bit
more
and
say,
look
hey.
Our
understanding
is
that
this
is
just
about
pay,
but
it
seems
to
be
more
than
that.
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
at
least
engage
and
show
a
wee
bit
of
respect
to
our
staff
and
to
their
representatives
and
say:
look
we
let
let's
hear
you,
let's
hear
the
areas
of
concern
you
have
if
it's
something
the
council
can
deal
with
internally,
we
try.
O
Lord
mayor,
I
I
wouldn't
want
it
to
be
conveyed
that
we
are
not
respecting
our
staff
or
our
trade
unions
and
being
no
later
than
I
think.
A
couple
of
weeks
ago
there
was
a
full
meeting
of
all
directors,
the
senior
management
team,
with
full-time
representatives
from
our
trade
unions
and
local
representatives
at
all
as
well,
and
that
went
on
for
a
number
of
hours.
O
So
there
was
a
full
engagement
and
a
very
positive
meeting
with
full-time
and
local
reps,
so
that
lord
mayor
is
certainly
something
I
would
want
to
be
clear
on
is
that
you
know
if
there's
that
feeling
of
not
being
respected?
O
R
I'm
sure
I'm
not
the
only
counselor
that
when
the
social
media
went
out
on
friday
morning,
within
the
first
hour
I
received
four
calls
from
a
constituents
asking
me
and
I'm
sure
I'm
not
the
only
counselor
that
this
happened
to.
But
asking
me
yes,
that's
all
well
and
good.
What's
going
to
happen,
but
what
he's
doing
about
it?
What
he's
doing
to
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
get
any
worse,
and
I
was
hoping
when
I
came
to
today's
meeting-
that
that's
what
I
would
have
heard.
R
An
action
plan
as
to
what
we
have
in
place-
and
all
I
have
read
in
the
communication
that
has
gone
out-
is
that
the
majority
of
clubs
in
the
football
have
been
relocated
and
that's
the
action
plan
that
I
have
read
in
terms
of
it
says.
There's
no
swimming
lessons
have
been
affected
today,
but
so
they're
not
affected.
R
But
I
really
want
to
know
that
I
can
fade
out
we're
talking
about
communicating
to
larvae
at
pairs,
but
today
I'm
going
and
we're
in
this
meeting
now
over
an
hour,
and
I
still
haven't
heard
what
to
communicate
out
to
the
repair
to
say
this
is
what
council
are
doing
to
minimize
the
disruption.
So
perhaps
I
could
have
some
kind
of
clarification
on
what
I
can
actually
tell
the
repair
after
because
I
know
for
a
fact,
my
phone
and
everybody
else's
phone
will
be
busy
this
afternoon.
D
Thank
you,
lord
murrah,
for
letting
me
back
and
again,
I've
just
received
a
further
message
from
a
constituent
who's.
Looking
at
this
online
special
meeting,
she
asked
the
question
is
what
will
happen
if
export
bags
of
refuge
is
left
beside
the
relievings
for
collection
when
the
bins
are
picked
up
again,
will
they
be
lifted,
especially
with
being
under
more
where
the
recycling
centers
are
not
open?
I
know
so.
D
P
Hello
yeah
side
waste
is,
is
always
a
consideration,
but
the
health
and
safety
concerns
on
the
issues
of
illegal
dumping
then
becomes
a
real
problem,
and
I
understand,
as
a
resident
the
burma
myself
on
a
large
family.
P
It
is
going
to
be
very
difficult
for
people
to
cope
with
us,
but
if
we
were
to
start
and
allow
people
to
put
out
extra
bags,
we
are
the
entrepreneur,
our
staff
and
the
problems
in
relation
to
how
they
handle
that
and
we're
also
there
and
the
difficulties
about
how
we
control
that
in
energy
of
fastener
form,
so
the
recycling
centers,
some
of
which
are
open
and
some
of
which
are
not
on
open.
Unfortunately,
they
will
continue
to
operate
and
they
will
operate
even
after
the
strike.
P
So
it
isn't
something
that
we
are
looking
at
at
all,
because
it
creates
more
problems
and
it's
then
it's
then
it
clears
up,
because
there
is
no
way
of
controlling
that
at
all.
So.
N
N
We
are
also
looking
at
casual
staff
and
any
staff
that
we
can
bring
in
again.
We
continue
to
make
contact
on
a
daily
basis
on
that
in
terms
of
being
able
to
provide
cover
and
also
we'll
be
asking
staff
on
a
daily
basis,
those
that
are
willing
to
volunteer
to
do
extra
hours.
So
those
are
the
different
strands
that
we
have
in
place.
At
the
moment
we
have
been
looking
at
those
and
we'll
continue
to
look
at
those
on
a
on
a
daily
basis.
B
B
R
N
In
in
terms
of
that
information,
I
I
just
don't
have
that
to
hand
at
the
moment,
but
certainly
we
can
come
back
to
you
on
on
that.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
say
is
we're
obviously
open
to
recruiting
at
the
minute
for
seasonal
staff,
so
we've
held
a
number
of
open
days
and
we
have
a
number
of
resources
that
will
be
coming
in
as
a
result
of
that
and
we're
continuing
to
make
contact
with
the
agencies
and
recruit
externally
as
well.
So
suppose,
that's
a
broader
picture
of
the
resourcing
efforts.
R
Thank
you
thank
you,
lord
mer,
and,
and
thank
you
for
that
charge.
That
was
actually
something
I
had
raised
at
the
last
committee
meeting
with
regards
to
the
casuals
and
they-
and
I
were
aware
of
that-
I
just
I'm
just
wondering
sharon,
you
know
we
don't
know
how
many
we're
having
today.
How
are
we
actually
going
to
manage
that
and
if
you
want
to
think
about
that
this
afternoon
and
bring
that
to
tonight's
council
meeting,
I
appreciate
that.
R
H
Hey,
thank
you
lord
mayor.
I
just
I
just
want
to
pick
up
on
something
that
can't
show
harlan
said.
H
I
think
it's
you
know
it's
it's
nice
that
he
that
he
does
talk
about,
for
example,
terms
and
conditions
and
all
of
those
things,
and
I'm
glad
now
that
he
is
because
you
know
I
can
go
back
as
far
as
8th
of
november
2018
and
beyond
when
our
party
have
raised
this
very
issue,
and
whilst
I
don't
want
to
get
into
details
around
that,
but
I
just
want
to
put
on
record
my
frustration
that
has
taken
so
long
for
everybody
to
understand
wavelength,
because
control
holland
is
making
suggestions
that
actually
are
being
worked
through
currently
by
the
chief
executive
on
the
senior
team,
and
you
know
I
I
really
just
wish
you'd
even
exercised
about
that
four
or
five
years
ago
now.
H
You
know
I
appreciate
that
there
are
challenges
across
the
department
and
the
strike
is
going
to
exacerbate
some
of
those.
I
do
absolutely
appreciate
that
I
appreciate
there's
work
on
going
with
timelines
in
place
to
to
address
some
of
the
issues
that
councillor
o'hanlan
has
raised,
but
just
because
there's
a
strike
and
because
we're
now
in
comp
or
in
public
session
that
he
wants
to
take
our
time
to
raise
these
issues.
H
When
he's
never
once
to
my
mind
her
memory
done
before
now,
I'm
pretending
to
be
the
hero
for
all
of
our
staff.
H
There
has
been
very
little
effort
made
by
any
other
political
party
across
this
chamber
on
these
issues
and
the
minutes
of
the
meetings.
The
recordings
of
the
meetings,
the
press
articles
that
have
gone
out
are
documentary,
evidence
and
proof
of
that,
and
I
do
have
a
view
on
where
we
sit
today.
H
That
is
a
separate
issue
from
the
strike.
I
think
it's
appalling
that
we're
in
the
position
we're
in
with
terms
and
conditions
currently
across
the
council.
I
am
pleased
that
that
process
is
well
underway.
I
absolutely
am
pleased
about
that
and
the
work
that's
ongoing
on
a
daily
basis
to
do
that.
But
at
the
same
time
you
know
we
can't
just
now
get
into
this
forum
and
start
shouting
about
things,
because
you
know
this
meeting
some
public
session.
H
This
has
got
to
be
about
what
mitigations
are
we
putting
in
place
to
alleviate
the
strike
impacts
on
our
ratepayers?
H
That's
why
we
call
the
meeting
essentially
and
not
to
get
into
you
know,
discussions
around
issues
that
have
not
actually
been
put
on
the
table
by
by
the
striking
union,
so
that
that's
all
I
will
say
to
that
on
the
matter,
and
I
do
appreciate.
I
say
this:
I
do
appreciate
the
work
that's
being
undertaken
by
the
team
who
sit
below
us.
H
I
think
they've
on
a
daily
basis,
and
I
do
appreciate
that
and
the
work
is
being
carried
out
there
and
I
do
appreciate
that
staff
across
this
council
have
been
more
than
patient
and
gracious
at
the
length
of
time.
They've
had
to
wait
on
terms
and
conditions
being
harmonized,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
the
details
of
that
either
and
I'll
have
rehearsed
that
many
times,
but
I
do
think
it
is
appalling.
H
Seven
years
down
the
line,
we
still
have
staff
on
legacy
terms
and
conditions.
People
do
the
same
jobs
and
different
terms
and
conditions
is
not
right.
It's
not
acceptable
as
an
inequality
that
we
must
fix
and
we
have.
The
the
trains
on
in
motion
affects
that
and
I
look
forward
to
the
workings
of
that
going
forward,
and
so
we
can
put
it
all
behind
us,
but
what
we
need
is
mitigations
for
for
the
next
few
weeks
and
I
could
take
the
view.
H
But
that's
not
the
view
I
want
to
take,
because
this
affects
all
of
our
borough
and
if
we,
if
I
say
that,
I'm
going
to
borrow
a
phrase
that
the
chief
executive
frequently
uses
it.
I
think
we
should
take
a
one
council
approach
to
dealing
with
this
issue
and
I
am
conscious
that
will
involve
discussions
with
staff
about
staff
and
with
unions
further,
so
I'm
happy
to
hold
some
of
those
comments,
the
confidential
business
appreciation.
Thank
you.
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
lord
mayor.
I'm
not
going
to
lower
myself
to
get
involved
in
a
slang
match
with
a
councillor
cosby,
but
suffice
to
say
of
all
the
members
in
the
chamber
that
take
advice
from
on
how
to
treat
staff
with
respect
and
dignity.
Councillor
cosby
is
the
last
one
and
secondly,
if
counselor
cosby
needs
to
thinks
that
I
only
speak
my
mind
at
this
in
this
forum
today.
M
Yes,
lord,
thank
you
for
indulging
me
and
letting
me
in
again,
and
you
know
I
think
it's
important
to
reiterate
the
the
respect
the
time
and
the
support
that
we
have
for
our
senior
staff
in
terms
of
managing
our
way
through
the
situ
to
aimed
ourselves
in
as
a
council,
but
I
just
wanted
to
pick
up
on
an
answer
that
barry
gave
in
response
to
my
colleague
councillor
park
in
terms
of
the
side
baggage
issue,
and
so
on.
So
you
know
at
consent,
unit
of
nine
and
canal.
M
They
have
no,
as
as
we
heard
at
the
very
outside
of
this
meeting,
we
have
no
recycling
center
open,
currently
until
further
notice
and
more
can
management
team
outline
to
me
what
my
constituent
is
supposed
to
do,
because
certainly
the
last
thing
that
any
of
us
want
to
be
advocating
is
other
ways
of
getting
rid
of
rubbish.
So
you
know
a
little
bit
of
advice
would
be
welcome.
Thank
you.
Lord.
P
Yeah
I
I
regard
firstly,
as
has
been
said
on
a
number
of
occasions.
We
are
apologetic
that
people
are
being
put
into
this
position
and
there
will
be
many
people
who
will
be
in
a
similar
position,
people
who
have
additional
waste.
Obviously
we
do
the
standard
things
of
squash
and
squeeze
who
get
as
much
waste
into
the
particular
bins
as
they
possibly
can
don't
be.
Clearing
out
garages,
addicts
were
spaces
or
anything
like
that
again
basic
sort
of
stuff.
P
The
members
of
public
will
no
one
understand
in
relation
to
physically
getting
rid
of
that
waste.
They
are
unfortunately
going
to
have
to
either
keep
that
waste
until
their
bin
has
been
emptied,
and
then
they
can
refill
it
again
or
use
one
of
any
of
the
recycling
centers
they're
very,
very
few
people
will
walk
to
any
of
our
recycling
centers.
So
therefore,
the
other
centers
that
are
open
will
obviously
accept
waves
from
across
our
borough,
so
they
can
visit
those
in
the
same
way
as
they
would
have
traveled
to
one,
for
example,
in
drama.
P
It
would
be
further
away,
but
the
facilities
are
exactly
the
same.
So
we
don't
encourage
people
to
do
that.
So,
apart
from
that,
there's
not
an
awful
lot
more
that
we
can
say
in
relation
to
that.
M
K
Well,
thank
you,
lord
mayor,
just
just
on
a
point
that
counselor
tennis
theory
is
done.
Shawn
responded
in
relation
to
tampery
staff,
casual
staff
and
whatever
this
is
something
I've
talked
about
in
numerous
occasions.
I'm
just
trying
to
seek
some
clarification
of
where
we
are
have
we
not
got
to
the
position
yet
up?
We
have
a
bank
of
staff
casuals
or
temporary
whatever
they
are
that
when
we
do
have
issues
should
it
be
because
of
strike
action
or
because
of
sickness
or
whatever
are
we
still
trying
to
get
a
bank
of
staff
together?
K
It's
something
I
thought
was
was
going
to
be
done
or
should
have
been
done
and
really
all
I'm
trying
to
find
out
is
that
when
we
know
we're
going
to
have
difficulties,
house
management
looked
at
this
and
brought
in
actually
are
on
their
way
of
saying
look.
We
can
bring
so
many
staff
in
to
do
state
cleansing
on
maybe
move
to
the
bins
or
whatever
I'm
just
wondering.
Are
we
still
lagging
behind,
or
is
it
not
possible
to
get
a
bank
of
staff,
or
is
that
something
we
we
can
do
on
something
we?
K
We
need
to
do
for
further
down
the
line
to
try
and
mitigate
issues
such
as
that
can
arise
from
time
to
time.
That's
not
rocket
science.
That's
it's
just
putting
something
in
place
to
help
with
the
repairs
and
that's
not
getting
at
anyone.
It's
just
it
could
be
signature
or
anything,
and
I
I
think
we
should
be
in
a
position
to
call
upon
staff
and
I'm
sure
there
are
staff
out
there.
K
There
are
people
out
there
who
maybe
would
want
to
take
up
those
jobs
and
when
they
become
available,
so
maybe
so
you
learned
merit
to
sharn.
Where
is
the
position
at
the
moment?
Are
we
still
lagging
behind
or
have
we
not
got
the
position
before
we
call
upon
any
number
of
calculators
family
staff
for
a
short
time?
Thank
you.
N
Thank
you,
alderman
anderson,
just
for
your
question
there
in
relation
to
the
the
casuals
obviously,
and
for
the
situation
presently.
At
the
moment
we
have
been
working
through
the
casual
list
that
is
available
and
we
will
continue
to
work
through
that
on
a
daily
basis
and
trying
to
bring
in
additional
resource.
As
I
had
mentioned
earlier.
We
also
have
a
number
of
recruitment
campaigns
live
at
the
moment,
as
well
in
relation
to
seasonal
posts
right
across
the
environmental
services
department.
N
So
we've
had
some
open
days,
both
at
the
end
of
march
and
one
more
recently
at
the
weekend
and
we'll
be
moving
forward
and
in
terms
of
of
those
we're
also
making
contact
with
the
agencies
and
also
are
looking
at
recruitment
as
well.
So
there's
a
number
of,
I
suppose,
strands
and
efforts
that
we
are
taking
forward
in
relation
to
building
that
increased
resource
and
resilience
into
the
the.
K
Just
thank
you,
lord
merida,
just
to
seek
clarification.
I
I
know
that
there
are
things
going
on
to
try
and
get
stuff
here
yarn,
but
are
we
not
keeping
the
names
of
individuals
who
are
prepared
to
take
on
these
jobs,
not
just
this
year,
but
every
year
that
they're
held
in
a
bank
that
do
we
not
have
that
or
having
no
idea?
K
If
the
number
of
people
who
are
sitting
there
and
maybe
just
from
a
phone
call
or
an
email
can
say,
we
can
give
you
employment
for
the
next
two
weeks
for
the
next
four
weeks.
Whatever
are
we
still
in
the
recruiting
stage,
and
why
do
we
not
hold
the
bank
of
staff?
It's
something
that's
been
talked
about
for
quite
some
time
and
appears.
K
N
Alderman
anderson,
yes
thank
you
and
if
I
could
maybe
come
back
on
that,
yes,
sir,
we
do
have
the
casual
list
of
people
who
are
available
to
work
right
across
a
number
of
the
services
within
the
count.
So
that's
the
list
that
I
was
referring
to
and
that's
what
we
have
looked
at
and
made
contact
with
and
will
continue
to
exhaust
that
that
list
on
a
daily
basis
in
terms
of
additional
resource
that
we
can
get
in
over
the
coming
weeks.
N
B
Proposed
by
counselor
cosby
and
second
by
alderman,
mitri,
okay,
members
and
listeners
are
sorry.
Are
we
all
agreed
agreed
members
listeners
to
the
audio
feed
in
accordance
with
schedules,
six
of
the
local
government
act?
We
are
now
moving
into
confidence
in
session
off
the
council.
This
means
it
will
be
turned
off
the
public
audio
feed
in
the
meeting.
This
will
be
returned
in
the
meeting
as
we
started.
Can
I
ask
ict
officers
to
please
turn
off
the
audio
feeding
confirming
confidential
section
of
this
meeting.