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From YouTube: Special and Normal monthly meeting Governance, Resources & Strategy Committee Thurs 9th of Feb 2022
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Special Meeting of Armagh City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council Governance, Resources and Strategy Committee on Thursday the 9th of February 2022 at 5.30pm. This is followed by the normal monthly meeting of the Governance, Resources and Strategy Committee at 7.00pm
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Okay,
if
there
are
no
further
apologies,
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
two,
the
declarations
of
interest
on,
if
there
aren't
or
are
there
are,
these
can
be
taken
throughout
the
meeting,
again
no
hands
or
no
lights
in
the
chamber.
Thank
you.
Agenda.
Item
number
three
correspondence
members.
I
I
haven't
been
notified
of
any
items
of
correspondence.
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Alderman
mudra
proposed
counselor
barry
seconded,
I
have
to
say
members
and
online
viewers.
In
accordance
with
schedule,
6
of
the
local
government
act
exempt
information.
We
are
now
moving
into
a
confidential
session
of
the
council.
This
means
that
we
will
be
turning
off
the
public
feed
of
the
meeting.
This
will
be
returned
when
the
meeting
is
restarted.
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Session,
thank
you.
We're
we're
back.
Live
members
agenda
item
number
five,
any
other
relevant
business
for
the
for
the
this
meeting
I
haven't
been,
I
haven't
been
informed
of
any
other
relevant
business,
so
I'm
adjourning
this
meeting.
Thank
you
for
your
participation
members
and
I
wish
you
all
a
good
evening.
Thanks
members.
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Okay,
thank
you,
kevin
thank
you
and,
of
course,
members
there's
an
opportunity
as
we
go
through
the
meeting
and
as
the
individual
items
come
up
for
for
members
to
declare
interests
so
moving
on
members
agenda
item
number
three
report
from
the
head
of
strategy
and
performance,
and
this
is
addy
decision
item
on
its
3.1,
honest
consultation
documents
from
external
organizations
on
its
martina
mcnulty,
the
header
strategy
and
performance
good
evening
martina.
It's
all
yours.
I
Dave
nature
good
evening,
members.
Yes,
sir,
this
is
the
february
external
consultation
list.
It's
recommended.
The
members
approve
the
recommendations
for
processing
the
consultation
documents
listed
in
the
schedule
at
appendix
one,
and
you
made
this
note
a
slight
change
in
the
annotation.
In
terms
of
how
just
for
clarity,
I
suppose,
in
relation
to
officer
response,
has
been
changed
to
officer
response
or
drafting
a
response
in
terms
of
the
committee,
the
service
committee,
that
that
draft
responsible
to
do
for
approval
for
being
returned
on
behalf
of
council.
Thank
you.
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K
So
the
decision
required
this
evening
is
that
it's
recommended
that
members
note
the
report
from
economic
development
and
regeneration
committee
approving
and
principle
participation
in
the
covet
regeneration
program
and
number
two.
It's
recommended
that
members
agree
that
this
project
moves
to
stage
two
of
the
capital
program
process,
whereby
a
business
plan
is
completed,
completed
for
members,
consideration.
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Kyle,
thank
you
chair,
yes,
happy
to
propose
us
here
and
I
know
again
nick
I
want
to
thank
you
and
the
team
for
all
the
work
you've
put
in
this.
It's
been
a
tight
turnaround
on
us
and
it's
tight
time.
Skills
with
us,
so
look
happy
to
propose,
and
I
know
it's
going
to
be
worthwhile
investment
into
those
areas
taught
us.
So
thank
you.
L
But
there's
the
the
paint
scheme
which
usually
is
around
750
pounds
per
property
and
that
in
for
anyone
who's
been
involved
in
some
of
the
environmental
improvement
schemes
has
give
every
bit
as
much
of
a
lift
to
rural
towns
and
villages
as
some
of
the
more
extensive
schemes.
So
I'd
just
be
keen
that,
whatever
that
I'd
work
on
this,
that
that's
included,
but
thank
you
nichola
for
the
the
work
I'm
happy
to
to.
Second,
the
adoption
of
the
report.
M
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
and
nicola
you
confused
me
when
I
seen
this
report
coming
and
I
thought
I
had
drifted
into
economic
development
by
mistake
when
I
was
looking
at
the
committee
minutes,
but
thank
you
for
the
report
and
I
was
just
looking
through
it
and
something
jumped
out
at
me.
One
of
the
things
that
you're
looking
at
is
investment
in
electric
vehicle
charging
and
just
want
to
see
you
know
when
you're
on
and
with
regards
to
economic
development.
This
has
been
raised
with
me
on
several
occasions
over
the
last
number
of
weeks.
M
First
of
all,
mcgowan
buildings,
the
the
vehicle
charging
points
are
out
of
action
there
and
I'm
just
wondering
how
quickly
we
can
get
those
back
up
and
running
and
then
at
south
lake
leisure
center.
We
have
run
into
major
problems
over
the
last
number
of
months
and
continuing
to
do
so,
and
so
it's
one
thing
investing
in
the
electric,
but
what
we
actually
have
at
the
minute
is
not
working
within
the
port
of
down
area,
so
just
want
to
have
you
on
if
you
could.
Maybe
look
at
that
for
me.
I'd
really
appreciate
that.
N
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
put
on
a
record
that
that
money,
investment
for
the
refrain
and
guilt
for
jury
is
as
much
welcome.
Speaking
to
a
few
residents.
You
know
they're
they're
they're
more
than
happy
that
that
the
council
is
seem
to
be
investing
a
bit
of
money
in
these
areas.
I
know
it's
never
enough,
but
any
investment
is
more
than
welcome.
Thank
you,
chair.
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K
Yes,
chair,
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
Yes,
it's
around
rural
villages,
funding
funding
that
has
already
been
secured
and
it's
really
to
try
and
get
projects
off
the
ground.
So
there's
a
signing
of
a
licensed
agreement
to
be
done
just
to
keep
us
all
right.
So
the
decision
required
is
that
members
agree
to
sign
a
license.
Agreement
to
allow
capital
works
to
be
undertaken
under
tier
two
times
project
in
tandem.
O
J
Look
I
want
to
put
on
racquet
again
the
the
work
of
the
team
in
this
declare
yourself
and
julian,
and
all
that
they've
done
and
I've
seen
them
like
today,
engaging
with
businesses
not
and
that's
fantastic
work
for
our
council
to
be
doing
that.
That
short
circuits
a
lot
of
problems
on
down
the
line,
if
there's
taping
problems
or
whatever,
so
that's
good
work.
That's
been
done
there
today,
which
I've
witnessed
myself
so
well
done
to
all
the
team,
but
happy
to
say
is
that.
Thank
you.
M
Nicolette
you'll
be
glad
I'm
not
on
economic
development,
because
you'll
think
I'm
a
real
moan
but
I'll
tell
you
what
it
is.
Just
whenever
you're
talking
about
tandra
gay,
I
happen
to
be
driving
through
it
yeah
on
monday,
and
I
stopped
off
at
a
coffee
shop.
Just
to
get
us
a
cup
of
coffee
and
the
place
is
the
amount
of
road
the
works
that's
going
on
in
tandoori
at
the
moment,
and
I've
also
spoken
to
gareth
wilson,
my
colleague
and
he's
going
to
follow
up
on
this,
but
it's
really
affecting
businesses.
M
I
went
into
that
coffee
shop
just
after
12
30,
I
spent
seven
pounds
10
p
and
that's
all
that
place
had
taken
in
that
day.
So
I
don't
know
how
long
this
wrote
these
are
going
to
take
effect,
but
they
said
that
when
they
were,
the
work
was
going
on
in
tanzania
at
the
bottom
of
the
time
they
were
badly
affected.
I
don't
know
whether
there's
anything
we
can
do
as
an
economic
development
department,
but
certainly
this
you
know
tundra.
M
Gay
traders
can't
sustain
this
on
that
side
of
the
road
and
where
this
road
works
is
going
on,
and
it's
just
it's
pitiful.
You
know,
there's
absolutely
nothing.
We
can
do
and
there's
our
they
can
do
and
like,
as
you
know,
at
the
minute,
businesses
is
hard
enough.
I
don't
expect
you
to
come
back
and
comment
on
that
nichola,
but
if
you
could
follow
that
up
with
steven
gareth
who's,
the
counselor
for
the
area,
I'd
really
appreciate
that
anything
we
could
do
to
help
out.
Thank
you.
A
O
Thank
you
chair
just
obviously
my
comment.
Last
week
we
had
a
the
fiber
company
and
putting
fiber
into
the
tank,
which
is
something
that
we
have
lobbied
for,
so
it
is
going
to
be
a
disruption,
and
then
this
week
we
have
a
farmer's
gyasm
going
from
market
street
up
to
church
street.
So
I
this
has
been
a
problem.
We
have
spoke
to
farmers
they're,
trying
to
keep
things
moving
as
quickly
as
possible.
Thankfully,
market
street
is
now
clear,
hopefully
soon
this
week,
so
it
was.
It
is
an
inconvenience
in
waste.
O
I
have
spoken
to
businesses
and
I'm
actually
on
that
street
myself
and
I
know
exactly
what
councilor
tinsley
is
talking
about
for
these
services
to
be
put
in.
There's
going
to
be
that
disruption,
and-
and
I
know
the
price
of
gas
at
the
moment-
is
pretty
high-
so
don't
see
too
many
taking
it
up,
but
it
is.
A
Okay,
counselor
barry.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that,
and
you
will
have
noted
those
comments.
Nicole.
Thank
you.
So
members
to
no
further
hands
no
further
likes
to
draw
this
to
a
conclusion.
This
decision
item
counselor
barry-
has
proposed
it
on
country.
Kyle
savage
has
seconded
it,
I'm
going
to
put
it
to
the
meeting
all
in
agreement.
Members
nodding
has
agreed.
Thank
you
agenda
item
six
report
from
the
strategic
directors
strategy
and
performance
and
there's
two
items:
6.1
and
6.2,
and
it's
sharon
mcnichol
to
take
this
welcome
sharon
over
to
you.
P
Thank
you,
chair
members.
The
first
item
is
the
raising
concerns
policy
and
the
niao
will
have
provided
updated
guidance
on
raising
concerns
and,
as
a
consequence,
the
council's
internal
audit
team
have
produced
this
new
policy,
and
this
replaces
the
former
whistleblowing
policy
and
members
are
asked
to
approve.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
sean.
Thank
you,
members.
Any
questions
or
queries
for
sharon
on
item
6.1
raising
concerns
no
hands
or
no
lights.
So
it's
a
decision
item.
So
I
need
a
proposal
on
the
secondary
members.
Councillor
barry
proposed
seconded
ultimate
tribal,
going
to
put
it
to
the
meeting
all
in
agreement
members.
P
M
P
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
counselor
tinsley.
The
changes
are
slight
and
they're
really
to
do
with
the
fact
that
the
previous
regulations
were
eu
regulations,
and
so
we
have
to
amend
the
policy
to
be
in
line
with
uk
regulations,
which
will
now
be
the
regulations
that
we
follow,
so
that
the
principles
etc
are
largely
the
same
and
there's
a
broad
degree
of
similarity
between
the
two
in
terms
of
how
this
will
be
communicated
training
as
planned.
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Q
Thank
you,
sarah
and
good
evening
members.
I
remember
the
report
for
you
tonight
as
an
information
reporter
request
from
the
bbc
in
relation
to
film
that
they're
looking
to
go
on
to
the
points
past
scarborough
tow
path
in
relation
to
a
series
called
home
grown
honest
just
to
advise
members
that
that
will
be
taking
place
on
saturday,
the
19th
of
february.
Thank
you
sure.
H
Thank
you,
sir
jonathan.
Just
a
quick
question
in
terms
of
the
tool
path:
it's
usually
very
busy
at
the
weekends,
with
plenty
of
people
walking
up
and
down
to
no
way
would
occasionally
do
it
with
my
wife.
Will
there
be
any
disruption
to
local
residents
who
use
it
at
the
weekend
on
whether
they've
been
notified
in
advance
from
any
sort
of
closures
of
the
the
tool
path
for
any
periods
of
time?
Just
like
a
bit
of
clarity
and
not
jonathan,
but
otherwise,
content
with
that.
Q
Just
come
back
through
the
chair
again,
yes,
look.
The
disruption
is
to
be
minor,
so
it's
not
to
be
cl.
The
tool
path
will
not
be
closed
off
and
there'll
be
short
periods
of
time,
while
their
filament
is
my
understanding.
So
there's
you
know,
there's
only
maybe
a
camera
person
and
another
couple
of
people
there,
so
it
won't
be
any.
I
don't
think
in
terms
of
a
huge
disruption
in
that
locality,
but
we
will
put
our
way
more
columns
message
out
in
relation
to
that
before
the
event.
A
L
L
I've
been
contacted
by
a
few
people
about
further
works
to
the
canal
and
the
king
that
maybe
a
presentation
in
council
are
in
committee
at
some
point
around
the
ownership
of
the
canal
and
who's
or
what
is
the
different
responsibilities,
and
I
know
there
would
in
the
the
legacy
council
he'd
come
back
to
that.
But
there
was
a
a
group
of
counselors
who
would
have
met
on
a
regular
basis
around
to
promote
and
around
the
development
of
the
the
top
and
the
canal.
L
Q
Yes,
thank
you
and
again
to
the
chair.
It's
actually
a
very
timely
question
because
of
a
report
that
I'm
drafting
for
lager
and
community
services
committee
in
march
and
I'm
not
very
matter
covering
those
very
issues.
So
certainly,
if
members
happy
I'll
present
that
report
to
the
relevant
committee
in
march,
that's.
A
Perfect.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Jonathan
happy
enough
councillor,
holland,
yep,
okay,
members,
it's
an
information
item,
so
there's
no
further
harms
or
no
further
light,
so
move
on.
Thank
you.
Jonathan
item
number.
Eight
members
report
from
the
head
of
community
planning
policy
and
research
on
the
decision
item
and
hit
point
one
on
the
celine
gillespie
welcome
elaine
on
over
to
you.
Thank
you.
R
Thank
you
chair
and
evening
members
8.1
is
a
draft
consultation
response
for
the
department
of
communities,
housing
supply
strategy
members.
The
report
includes
the
constitution
documents
from
council,
as
well
as
some
information
on
heisman
borough
that
we
pulled
together
as
officers
that
we
thought
would
be
useful
for
members.
We've
included
that
as
well.
R
A
S
S
I'm
just
referencing
some
of
the
the
the
amount
of
houses
that
are
derelict
or
on
you
know,
they're
not
being
looked
after
that
could
be
used,
it's
just
that
they
represent
north
oregon,
where
there's
a
massive
housing
shortage,
and
I'm
just
wondering
israeli
way.
We
could
just
feed
that
back
back
into
the
department.
R
Off
the
top
of
my
head
counselor,
I
don't
think
we
have
anything
specifically
on
empty
home
strategy
in
there
we
had
to
submit
the
consultation
response
today
subject
to
ratification,
because
today
was
the
deadline.
But
if
members
are
agreeable,
I
would
be
happy
to
follow
up
with
an
email
through
the
dfc
just
to
add
and
add
that
entire
response,
if
members
are
agreeable
to
that.
S
Yeah
look
at
if
it
needs
a
proposal,
I'm
happy
to
do
it,
but
just
just
to
note
as
well
through
my
own
sort
of
that's
been
going
on
for
a
number
of
years.
In
my
own
area,
we
do
it,
we
don't
collect
rates
on
houses
that
are
sitting
empty,
so
it's
kind
of
a
no-brainer
in
terms
of
tackling
the
issue.
But
it's
not
it's
not
a
straightforward
issue.
A
E
E
R
Well,
and
thanks
for
the
comments
counselors
and
as
you'll
know,
with
a
lot
of
these
consultation
responses,
the
survey
and
the
format
that
they
give,
you
is
usually
quite
tight
and
it's
quite
a
tick
box
exercise
with
very
set
formats
of
what
they're
asking
you
and
what
they
would
like
you
to
respond
to.
If
there
are
other
issues
that
members
may
like
to
be
raising
around
housing.
R
What
I
could
maybe
suggest
members
is
that
I
could
get
to
representatives
from
each
party
and,
if
they'd
like
to
agree
some
additional
information
that
they've
sent
them
to
dfc.
In
addition
to
what
we've
put
in
on
their
official
consultation
response.
That
may
be
a
way
to
gather
some
of
these
additional
comments
that
aren't
really
covered
in
the
consultation
response.
What
are
issues
that
council
would
like
to
make
dfc
aware
of
as
they
take
that
strategy
forward.
E
Yes
sure
I
would
just
make
final
point
in
that:
it's
perfectly
fine
having
five
thousand
privately
owned
houses,
and
maybe
people
in
them.
But
if
they're
not
of
good
quality
and
they're
causing
people
in
health,
then
it's
not
good
quality
housing
and
we
need
a
strategy
to
deal
with
that
as
well
and
private
landlords
ship
their
responsibility
for
too
long
and
most
in
some
cases.
J
J
It
has
a
severe
detrimental
effect
on
people's
well-being
and
that
and
people
are
just
crowded
in
like
cattle,
which
is
unfair
and
should
not
happen
in
this
day
and
age.
But
one
other
issue
I'd
like
to
raise
elaine
is
affordable
housing
within
the
rural
communities.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
there,
I'm
trying
to
deal
with
at
the
moment
trying
to
get
housing
there.
You
know
within
the
rural
communities
and
it's
just
it's
not
there
and
people
want
to
live
in
the
rural
areas.
The
village
is
not,
and
the
star
housing
stock
is
not
there.
J
R
Sure
I
think
it's
a
I
previously
said.
I
think
it
may
be
useful
if
counselors
are
content
with
the
draft
response,
as
is
to
the
survey
questions
that
were
there.
I'd
be
happy,
then,
to
pull
together
a
quick
meeting
with
representatives
from
each
party
and
if
there
are
additional
comments
around
housing
that
we'd
like
to
make.
I'm
certainly
happy
to
pull
those
together
and
put
those
in
as
an
additional
response
to
dfc.
S
Yeah,
it
was
just
to
say,
in
light
of
alliance
commenter,
I'm
happy
to
propose
that
I
fully
take
on
board
that
it
is
restrictive
on
these
issues
by
myself
and
the
other
countries
are
slightly
broader.
So
I'm
happy
to
propose
this
response
and
look
forward
to
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
express
some
of
the
issues
that
we
can
hopefully
feedback
through
through
the
council
to
the
department.
So
I'm
happy
with
that.
A
A
A
R
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
8.2
is
an
information
item
members.
It's
a
letter.
That's
been
drafted
as
a
response
to
the
independent
education
review
panel
and
to
their
call
for
initial
views.
We
had
originally
looked
at
putting
in
a
survey
response,
but
again,
having
looked
at
members,
it
was
very
restrictive
in
what
they
were
asking,
and
so
it
was
agreed
with
party
leaders
that
we
put
this
letter
in
and
it's
there
for
information.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Well,
it's
broadly
happy
with
with
the
response
to
put
in.
I
think
it
is
important
that
we
do
get
ourselves
involved
in
the
response
to
the
independent
review
and
education.
There's
no
question
of
that,
and
I
know
we've
been
engaged
with
the
work
with
with
noel
purdy
on
a
previous
occasion
which
referenced
the
letter
and
that's
been
hugely
valuable.
Actually
and
his
insights
have
been
really
important
as
well.
E
To
date,
now
we've
just
gone
through
a
list
of
public
consultation
documents
and
it's
very
important
that
we
do
respond
on
many
of
those.
But
it's
also,
then,
when
we
make
policy
and
counsel,
we
don't
rely
on
information,
that's
five
or
six
years
out
of
date
or
longer,
and
so
it's
not
good
policy
making
to
do
that
and
so
I'd
be
concerned.
E
Over
and
above
the
the
90
percent
of
the
school
population
across
northern
ireland.
And
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
we
need
to
be
making
sure.
There's
a
council.
We
take
very
seriously
because
it
will
have
major
ramifications
for
the
children
and
young
people
and
the
constituents
across
this
borough.
E
So
what
I
would
be
proposing
this
evening,
mr
chairman,
is
that
we
would
write
to
the
minister
and
to
the
chair
of
the
education
committee
that
we
would
set
out
our
concerns
as
I
have
just
outlined,
and
that
we
would
oppose
the
bill
in
its
current
form
and
that
we
would
be
clear
in
that.
Our
view
would
be
that
any
change
to
education
should
come
from
the
recommendations
based
around
the
significant
piece
of
work.
E
That
is
going
to
be
done
through
the
independent
review
of
education
in
northern
ireland,
and
it
shouldn't
be
done
in
isolation
and
in
an
island
like
form.
The
way
this
bill
is
being
driven
forward,
in
my
view,
for
for
some
very
narrow
political
purposes,
and
so
would
hope
this
evening
that
members
would
reflect
on
on
some
of
that
and
maybe
agree
that
we
would
send
that
letter
off.
Thank
you.
U
Thank
you
chair
for
letting
me
in,
and
I
won't
comment
I'm
biting
my
tongue
near
off
here,
because
I
I
work
in
the
integrated
sector
for
the
last
24
years,
and
so
I
feel
a
bit
of
a
declaration
of
interest
there.
For
me
I
would
love
to
comment
counselor
cosby,
but
just
feel
that's
not
really
appropriate
at
the
time
and
then
in
this
forum.
U
It's
highlight
outlined
in
their
response
to
this
paper
that
protestant
boys
on
free
school
males
are
amongst
those
with
the
lowest
educational
outcomes
and
and
those
are
predominantly
the
students
attending
who
haven't
seen
your
high
school.
I
think
it's
it's
well
over
60
percent
of
boys
and
there's
over
20
percent
of
those
students
on
free
school
males
and
almost
20
percent
have
a
statement
of
educational
need
and
we
still
are
not
expedient
about
about
getting
them
an
adequate
facility
in
which
to
learn
and
thank
you.
V
And
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman,
and
really
just
to
say.
First
of
all,
in
regard
to
the
letter
that
elaine
has
suggested,
we
submit
I'm
very
happy
with
it.
It's
just
simply
a
holding
letter
and
and
it's
it's
accepting
that
we
want
to
make
a
response.
But
I
think
the
issues
that
are
prevalent
at
the
moment
are
very,
very,
very
complex,
and
I
think
we
need
to
spend
some
time
thinking
about
these
issues
and
noel
purdy
did
come
at
the
behest
of
the
council
and
gave
us
the
report.
V
V
That's
going
through
or
trying
to
go
through
the
assembly
about
integrated
education,
and
that
is
a
huge
issue,
and
there
is
a
concern
that
if
that
project
goes
through
the
assembly,
it
will
give
a
decided
advantage
to
the
integrated
sector
without
acknowledging
that
the
most
natural
integrated
sector
is
the
control
sector
and
that
we
can't
ignore.
But
unfortunately,
I
think
this
recommendation
is
ignoring
that
and
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
complex
issue
that
we
do
need
to
consider
and
whether
we
as
council
should
set
up.
V
So
I
think
a
lot
more
time
needs
to
be
taken
and
we
perhaps
need
to
set
up
a
group
to
discuss
it
further,
even
in
our
own
council.
But
I've
been
in
the
area
of
education
for
over
40
years
and
there
are
always
issues
we're
dealing
with
the
most
important
product
in
the
world
in
our
young
people.
So
we
certainly
need
to
spend
time
and
think
through
the
issues
carefully.
A
T
G
Thank
you,
chair
you'll,
not
be
surprised
to
know
that
I
don't
maybe
share
some
of
the
views
that
have
been
expressed
so
far.
I
think
two
of
the
great
injustices
in
our
education
system,
actually,
the
first
of
which
is
that
we
segregate
children
largely
at
a
very
young
age,
on
the
basis
of
community
background.
G
The
second
is
that
we
subject
10
and
11
year
olds
to
high-stakes
unregulated
non-reset
exams
for
the
basis
of
transfer
to
post-primary
two
very
important
issues
that
I
think
need
to
be
addressed
and
and
that
actually
relate
heavily
to
some
of
what
we
said
in
the
response
and
to
the
letter,
I
would
say.
First
of
all,
I
I
don't
support
councillor
cosby's
proposal
and
that
we
write
in
opposition
to
the
integrated
education
bill.
I
think
it
is
long
overdue
and
much
needed
progressive
change.
G
It
is
a
sad
indictment
on
our
politics
that
now
coming
up
in
24
years
since
the
good
friday
agreement,
when
we
were
promised
not
just
relative
peace,
but
progress
for
the
future
and
progress
towards
more
integrated
and
shared
society
that
still
only
seven
or
eight
percent
of
children
in
northern
ireland
are
educated
in
an
integrated
school.
That
hasn't
happened
by
chance
because
demand
for
integrated
education,
every
single
poll
shows
is
overwhelming.
The
problem
is
the
places,
aren't
there
in
order
to
facilitate
demand.
G
If
you
look,
for
example,
at
figures
provided
from
the
education
authority
to
nicey
in
june
2020,
the
number
of
first
preference
applications
to
post-primary
integrated
education,
schools
that
didn't
result
in
admission
was
as
high
as
24.
So
clearly
the
education,
the
the
department
of
education,
isn't
doing
enough
to
facilitate
the
demand
for
integrated
education
as
it
is.
So
there
is
a
much
needed
change
and
at
the
heart
of
the
integrated
education
bill
is
the
desire
to
have
a
strategy
in
order
to
meet
that
demand.
G
It's
not
to
derive
any
other
sector,
it's
to
meet
the
demand
that
is
out
there
and
I
think,
if
we're
serious,
about
making
progress
towards
a
more
shared
and
integrated
society,
but
healing
the
buyers
that
exist
in
our
community.
We
need
to
start
with
educating
more
of
our
children
together
and
ensuring
that
integrated
education
is
an
option
that's
available
to
parents,
just
as
the
controlled
sector
and
catholic
maintained
education
is
an
option
for
parents
at
the
moment.
G
In
many
areas
across
northern
ireland,
integrated
education
isn't
a
viable
option
in
the
same
way,
and
that's
because
of
political
choices
that
have
been
made
by
the
dup
and
others
in
order
to
try
and
maintain
that
division.
I
would
argue
in
our
society
over
the
past
24
years,
so
I
will
not
be
supporting
councillor
bosby's
proposal.
Thank
you.
W
I
would
not
support
a
bill
that
elevates
the
integrated
sector
above
the
state
and
maintained
sectors
which
have
served
this
country
very
well
in
their
own
way.
I
often
collect
my
five-year-old
daughter
from
a
state
school
and
I
see
on
a
daily
basis,
people
from
all
faiths
and
all
backgrounds,
all
their
children
mixing
together
and
nobody's
asking
what
the
religion
or
what
their
faith
or
anything
else
is,
and
I
will
not,
as
I
said,
see
an
integrated
sector,
elevated
again
above
the
system
that
we
have
at
the
minute.
W
So
I'm
happy
to
second
the
proposal
and
again
endorse
what
counselor,
what
alderman
twable
has
said,
wise
words
and
in
relation
to
the
senior
high
situation
legend,
which
has
which
has
endured
for
far
longer
than
any
of
us,
would
would
wish
if
councillor
mckinstry
wants
to
make
a
proposal
around
that.
I
will
probably
be
very
happy
to
share
it,
because
I
share
the
sentiments
that
she
says
in
relation
to
that.
Also.
Thank
you.
B
Michael,
thank
you
chair,
yes,
and
just
to
share
councillor
mckinstry
and
alderman
richard's
concerns
about
the
slowpiece
of
change
in
the
controlled
post-primary
sector
in
logan,
it's
an
absolute
disgrace
and
that
children
are
having
to
put
up
with
in
terms
of
their
education.
At
the
moment.
In
relation
to
your
councilor
cosby
proposal,
I
mean
I
haven't,
read
the
integrated
education
bill
and
suggests
that
most
members
here
tonight
haven't
read
the
integrated
education
bill.
It's
a
market
a
matter
properly
for
the
assembly
where
it's
going
through
it
appear
at
the
moment.
B
J
Maybe
I'm
wrong
in
this
here,
but
I
expect
more
of
mlas.
It
seems
as
if
this
bill
was
wrote
in
the
back
of
a
packet.
To
be
quite
honest,
that's
brought
forward
here
in
front
of
the
assembly.
No
one
has
a
right
to
rise
above
anybody
else.
My
children
go
to
them
in
10
schools,
so
they
and
there's
everyone
from
every
walk
of
life
in
that
school.
Nobody
is
judged.
Nobody
is
asked
what
religion
you
are
or
what
belief
you
are
or
anything.
You
know.
J
A
U
Very,
very
briefly,
just
listen
to
this
debate
tonight,
I'm
wondering.
Is
it
worth
a
while
and
suppose
I'd
like
to
make
a
proposal?
It
could
reconvene
the
education
committee
at
some
stage,
because
it
sounds
like
that.
There's
a
lot
to
talk
about
with
this
new
integrated
education
bill
and
the
implications
that
we'll
have
for
our
borough.
There's
also
a
review
and
two
for
employment
legislation
with
teachers
as
well-
and
I
know
it'll
have
implications
in
our
borough
too.
U
A
L
I
think
council
mckenzie
is
not
our
pointer
and
the
reconvening
of
the
education
working
group
is
probably
the
the
best
way
forward.
I'm
minded
to
agree
with
where
councillor
michael
is
on
this.
This
is
an
issue
for
the
assembly
and
we
should
let
assembly
members
deal
with
assembly
issues
and
keep
counselors
on
counselors
issues
and
assembly
members
out
of
council
issues.
L
But
you
know
as
someone
who
come
through
the
catholic
maintained
sector
and
whose
children
are
now
going
through
that
sector,
I
don't
think
it's
a
right
that
any
sector
should
be
a
a
promoter
over
and
above
another.
Equally,
we
have
the
irish
medium
sector
as
well,
and
so
I
would
be
keen
that
we
we're
more
than
content
for
a
lot
of
durable
in
relation
to
the
high
school
in
craig
alvin.
And
to
me
that
is
a
very
pressing
issue.
L
But
then,
if
there
was
anything
in
relation
to
a
integrated
education,
a
policies
or
a
bills,
surely
the
place
for
that
would
be
to
have
a
a
a
discussion
at
the
education
working
group.
And
if
the
parties
can't
come
to
the
consensus
will
then
leave
it
to
individual
parties
to
do
by
the
assembly.
And,
but
I
think
the
the
place
to
have
that
discussion
is
in
that
working
group.
In
the
first
instance.
A
X
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
a
couple
of
quick
points:
it's
not
about
of
elevating
one
skill
above
another.
It's
by
creating
a
plan
fail
that
integrated
skills
will
now
have
the
same
way
as
controlled
schools
and
the
character
maintenance
schools
would
firstly
as
well.
I
just
have
to
declare
an
interest
being
a
member
of
the
board
of
governors
of
a
local
integrated
school.
I'm
not
sure
whether
or
be
allowed
to
take
part
in
the
bolton
cosby
amendment.
X
Would
you
be
able
to
provide
a
bit
of
guidance
on
this
and
then
just
in
response
to
councillor
and
kyle
savage
comments
by
the
mla
is
fadering
about
in
this
issue
and
pushing
this
flag
packet
bill
as
he
seems
to
call
it
it's
a
well-written
piece
of
legislation
supported
by
his
party
leader.
So
maybe
you
need
to
have
a
think
about
that.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
a
couple
of
points
I
would
make
and
and
once
they
hear
what
country
mackel
is
saying
and
the
points
that
potential
holland
have
reinforced
in
relation
to
this.
But
you
know,
council
do
have
a
duty
to
reflect
the
concerns
that
are
raised
by
constituents
on
these
matters
and
certainly
knows
the
knowledge.
E
You
know
issues
across
our
so
much
so
that
in
council
on
previous
occasion,
we
have
an
education
committee
established
and
we're
not
going
to
re-establish
that
so
course
it's
right
and
proper
that
we
do
talk
about
and
deal
with
these
issues.
So
my
proposal
in
relation
to
writing
a
letter
objecting
or
at
least
opposing
and
raising
concerns
in
relation
to
the
bill,
still
stands.
Nobody.
E
That
would
immediately
put
craig
alvin
senior
high
school
and
other
schools
who
are
in
desperate
need
of
schools,
capital
investment
in
this
borough
at
risk
of
being
bumped
down
the
list.
You
know-
and
I
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
travesty
and
would
kick
the
account
for
cricket
senior
high
school
and
reported
on
college
for
lurking
college
and
for
other
schools
and
our
primary
skills
and
others
down
the
road
longer
and
that's
not
an
acceptable
situation.
E
So
I
would
stick
to
to
the
point
that
we
do
need
to
write
and
object
to
to
this
bill
and
raise
our
concerns
in
that
regard
and
on
recent
countries
or
ultimate
point,
I
absolutely
will
buy
to
his
superior
experience
and
knowledge
in
the
sector.
Goodness
he's
been
in
the
sector
long
and
I've
been
alive,
and
you
know
so.
I
have
huge
respect
for
his
experience
there
and
I
think
reconvening.
E
That
committee
is
a
fairly
good
shout.
My
concern
is
and
why
I'm
keen
that
the
letter
would
go
is
that
this
bill
is
being
rushed
through
the
assembly
and
we
don't
have
time
to
delay
on
this
issue
any
further
because
they
want
to
get
this
through
over
the
next
five
or
six
weeks
before
the
assembly
is
dissolved
before
an
election.
Now
you
count
your
tennyson,
you
can
roll
your
eyes
as
far
back
into
your
head
as
you
like.
It
does
not
matter.
A
Let's
take
the
things
one
by
one.
We
have
counselor
calls
based
proposal
seconded
by
alderman
mutre
that
council
right
to
a
the
department,
specifically
on
the
integrated
education
bill
that
has
caused
quite
a
degree
of
concern
to
quite
a
few
pupils
to
quite
a
few
parents
of
of
of
members
across
this
chamber
and
across
our
community.
So
that's.
A
T
A
A
X
Y
Thank
you
chairman,
and
I
suppose
my
view
is
similar
to
that
that
I've,
given
previously
that
it's
a
matter
for
members,
firstly
to
make
themselves
aware
of
the
code
of
conduct
and
then,
secondly,
to
satisfy
themselves
that
they
are
complying
with
it.
It's
difficult
for
officers
to
make
that
very
clear
recommendation
or
decision
for
members.
However,
there
are
quite
often
is
a
rule
that
is,
if
you're
asking
the
question.
Quite
often,
you
know
the
answer.
F
A
O
I
X
B
A
G
N
A
Okay,
members:
the
vote
is
n.
It's
nine
votes.
Yes,
it
votes.
No
one
abstain
on
one
did
not
vote
as
it's
a
recorded
vote.
The
yeses
were
councillor,
barry
country
cause
big
councillor,
flaherty
alderman,
mutray,
councillor,
kyle,
savage
councilman,
margaret
tinsley,
councillor,
wilson,
alderman
twybel
and
myself
as
chur
tim
mcclelland.
A
Those
who
voted
no
were
counselor
hockey.
Councillor
hawkins
councillor,
mackel,
councillor,
mcnally,
councillor,
o'hanlon,
councillor,
kevin,
savage
councilor,
owen,
tennyson
councillor,
karen
thomann,
abstaining,
wisconsin,
louise
mckinstry
and
did
not
vote
was
counselor
lavree.
The
motion
is
carried
members.
Thank
you.
So
then,
the
other
couple
of
issues
around
this
in
terms
of
the
proposal
to
re-activate
the
education
committee
within
council,
it's
been
proposed
and
seconded.
A
A
Y
Thank
you
chairman.
Maybe
just
a
point
of
clarification.
I
think
the
the
working
group
that
we
have
has
focused
more
on
the
the
lergan
situation.
So
if
members
are
in
agreement,
I
can
work
with
party
leaders
and
that
can
then
be
broadened
out
in
its
wide
and
widest
sense.
But
it's
maybe
just
to
get
that
slight
change
to
the
composition
of
the
group
chairman.
A
B
Thank
you
chair,
and
it's
just
to
put
a
note
in
with
that
letter
that
goes
to
the
minister
for
education
that
the
views
expressed
in
the
letter
or
not
the
views
of
the
entire
council
that
it
wasn't
agreed
it
had
to
go
to
a
vote
so
that
they
don't
get
the
impression
that
the
whole
of
abc
council
has
a
unified
position
in
opposition
to
the
integrative
educational
chair.
Thank
you.
G
Yeah
thank
you
chair.
I
spoke
bailey
to
the
integrated
education
point
and
when
I
last
spoke-
and
I
wanted
just
to
address
the
points
of
counseling
chemistry
had
raised,
because
I
think
they're
important
once
yeah,
I
think
if
we
played
as
quickly
as
you
can,
I
think
it's
sensible
that
we
do
progress
with
convening
that
committee.
I
think
that's
a
sensible
proposal
also,
I
think
she's
entirely
right
about
the
situation
with
government
senior
high
and
the
need
to
very
quickly
begin
to
resolve
this
issue.
G
I
know
it's
something
the
country's
history
and
others
have
been
lobbying
on
for
an
extremely
long
time
and
we
really
need
to
see
progress.
I
think
it's
entirely
wrong.
I
must
add
to
pit
schools
against
one
another
and
the
way
dep
have
tried
to
tonight
and
say
that
somehow
the
integrated
education
bill
would
prevent
progress
on
that
matter.
That's
not
true,
and
we've
seen
this
before
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
social
debates.
G
G
A
P
You
chair
members,
as
you
can
see,
from
the
correspondence
the
northern
ireland
fire
and
rescue
service
are
proposing
to
align
district
structure
with
the
local
government
boundaries
and
they've
issued
a
consultation
they've
offered
to
come
in
and
present
to
members.
So
really
we
are
seeking
members
directions
afternoon
if
you
would
like
to
have
a
presentation
from
northern
ireland,
fire
and
rescue
services
in
respect
of
this,
alternatively,
officers
can
prepare
response
for
approval
at
the
next
committee
meeting.
A
A
M
Thank
you
cheers
basically
through
a
previous
correspondence
that
we
had
written
to
dfi
roads
and
through
this
committee,
and
I
have
to
say
I'm
very
thankful
and
grateful
that
the
officials
have
agreed
to
a
meeting
the
meetings
taking
place
next
week
were.
I
had
requested
the
meeting
to
express
the
many
issues
and
concerns
with
regards
to
the
driving
tests
and
mot
tests
and
that
we're
experiencing
within
this
kind
salary.
It's
not
getting
any
better.
A
A
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mutre
proposed
councillor,
barry
seconded
members
and
online
viewers
in
accordance
with
schedule.
6
of
the
local
government
act
exact,
exempt
information.
We
will
now
be
moving
into
a
confidential
session
of
the
council.
This
means
that
we
will
be
turning
off
the
public
fee
of
the
meeting.
This
will
be
returned
when
the
meeting
is
restarted.
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A
X
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
accepting
the
aop
item.
I
will
be
brief.
It's
in
relation
to
electric
vehicle
charging
point
parking
spaces
as
you've
outlined.
I've
get
gotten
a
number
of
complaints
really
recently
about
people
who
are
going
to
council
owned
car
parks
which
have
electric
vehicle
charging
points
they
get
there
and
there
are
vehicles
parked
in
the
spaces
which
are
not
electric
vehicles.
X
The
reason
I
raised
it
is
that
we
had
this
similar
issue
at
circulate
pressure
center,
when
people
were
regularly
parked
in
the
nose
electric
vehicle
charging
points
and
what
happened
as
part
of
a
number
of
measures
was
those
av
charging
points
were
repainted,
I
think
in
a
different
color
and
there
is
additional
signage
there.
I
I've
spoken
with
the
header
states
about
this
and
understand
the
reports
going
to
be
brought
back
next
month
relating
to
av
charging
points.
X
A
Q
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair
and
again.
Thank
you
members
for
your
query
in
relation
to
this
matter.
Yes,
I'm
happy
to
take
a
report
back
and
I
will
be
speaking
to
ebs,
who
are
the
provider
for
the
charge
point
center
of
streetcar
parks
in
advance
of
taking
a
report
to
back
to
committee
in
march.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
G
Thank
you,
chair
yeah,
so
my
item,
they'll,
be,
is
actually
in
relation
to
transgender
day
of
visibility.
That's
coming
up
on
the
31st
of
march,
and
essentially
it's
really
a
request
for
a
report
to
be
brought
back
to
full
council
and
transgender
visibility,
which
I'm
sure
members
are
familiar
with,
is
an
opportunity
for
our
trans
community
to
be
visible
and
celebrated
in
the
community.
G
Tonight,
members,
I'm
asking
that
we
would
agree
in
principle
and
to
light
our
buildings
pink
and
purple
on
that
date
and
also
to
fly
the
trans
flag
on
that
day.
Obviously,
there's
a
small
financial
implication
with
that,
so
the
decision
can't
be
taken
totally
tonight,
but
I
would
just
ask
that
a
report
be
brought
back
outlining
the
financial
applications,
so
the
decision
could
then
be
taken
fully
and
at
full
council
if
members
were
agreed
with
that
direction
of
travel
and
but
really
appreciate
you
sure
and
allowing
this
item
tonight.
Thank
you.
A
W
G
Yeah
well
chair
thanks
for
letting
me
back
in.
As
this
is
an
item
of
aob,
we
can't
take
a
decision
and
that
may
have
financial
implications,
no
matter
how
yeah.
So
I'm
just
asking
that
the
report
be
brought
back
to
outline
the
financial
implications,
so
that
members
could
then
take
an
informed
and
final
decision
if
they're
happy
with
the
general
direction
of
travel,
that
we
would
take
in
principle
tonight
and
then
confirm
that
when
we
have
the
financial
information
at
full
council.
Thank
you.