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Armagh City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council Leisure and Community Services Committee on Monday the 14th of November 2022 at 6.30pm in the Council Chamber at Craigavon Civic and Conference Centre.
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A
A
B
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B
Yes,
just
want
to
wish
councilor
Michael
London,
all
the
very
best
and
for
it's
a
melon
education,
Belgium
Blitz
and
that
is
Tech
I.
Think
it's
his
13th
time
going
out
there
and
he's
been
very
keen
to
get
back.
This
is
the
first
time
back
after
covert,
so
just
wish
him
all
the
best
for
this
okay,
so
agenda
item
two
Declarations
of
interest.
B
E
E
Okay,
so
just
a
way,
that's
just
a
very
brief
step
really
about
ourselves,
then
so
in
terms
of
play
Boards
some
of
you
may
be
aware
of
us.
We
have
worked
with
Council
in
the
past
and
we're
the
lead
organization
for
children
and
young
people's
play
in
Northern
Ireland,
and
we
work
at
a
range
of
levels.
So
we
never
play
programs
within
communities.
We
work
a
lot
within
schools
and
the
Christian
Navy.
We
work
with
youth
groups
with
the
youth
sector.
E
We
also
carry
out
research
really
with
the
aim
of
influencing
policy
and
also
promoting
best
practice
and
play,
and
we
also
involved
a
number
of
different
levels
in
supporting
strategic
development
and
providing
guidance
to
Regional
local
government
and
across
the
four
nations
and
I'll
just
ask
Alex
to
come
and
just
say
a
bit
about
Mayberry
Foundation.
At
that
stage,.
F
Good
evening,
everyone,
yes
thanks
for
inviting
us
along
and
Azan,
says
I'm
Alex,
Crawford
I'm,
the
chair
and
founder
of
my
Murray
Foundation.
We
are
a
lived
experience,
layout
organization
and
with
now
over
1300
families
of
all
ages
and
all
abilities
from
across
Northern
Ireland,
and
we
have
a
focus
on
working
in
Partnership
to
break
down
buyers
to
social
participation,
particularly
for
those
with
more
complex
need,
and
excuse
me,
we
are
particularly
interested
in
the
play
environment,
we're
probably
best
known
for
breaking
down
barriers
in
the
beach
environment.
F
E
E
F
Excuse
me,
so
we're
really
just
going
to
give
a
very,
very
hotline
briefing
here
this
evening
on
or
let
me
play
static.
So
let
me
play
was
published
in
March
30th
and
it's
really
because
playboard
and
May
Murray
Foundation
were
both
hearing
from
children
and
families
that
they
weren't
being
they
quite
often
weren't
able
to
enjoy
play
parks
in
Northern,
Ireland
or
take
part
and
that
there
were
barriers.
F
So
we
engaged
with
a
total
of
500
families
and
we
had
a
mixture
of
the
survey
Focus
scripts
and
actual
participation
sessions
within
play
parks
as
well,
because
we
were
particularly
Keen
to
hear
from
not
just
parents
and
but
also
children,
with
more
complex
native
who
or
maybe
a
non-verbal
and
wouldn't
be
able
to
report
and
maybe
use
any
other
mechanisms.
So
we
evidence
their
choices
actually
in
play.
Parks
on
the
ground,
so
a
safe,
very
top
line.
F
G
B
F
Interestingly,
we
find
that
there
were
things
and
and
commonalities
between
what
families
were
telling
us
and
that
we
were
here
in
several
issues
and
buyers
and
repetition.
So
we
broke
those
those
elements
down
into
six
themes
and
get
into
the
play.
Park
play
Park
site
facilities,
access
to
ply
participation
and
play
communication,
and
attitudes
and
I
would
really
urge
you
to
actually
just
polite
the.
F
Let
me
play
study
and
have
a
good
readout
and
it
does
make
understand,
read
and
will
drill
down
into
each
of
these
things
in
more
detail,
but
just
to
give
you
a
fill
for
for
for
what
some
of
those
topics
mean
when
we're
talking
about
getting
to
the
play
part
we're
thinking
about
is
the
drop
curves.
Are
there
drop
curves
on
the
approach
to
the
play?
Park?
F
F
Interestingly,
almost
half
of
respondents
told
us
that
they
needed
a
changing
places,
toilet
a
standard
to
fill,
changing
places
standard
and
that
the
the
lack
of
provision
of
a
change
in
place-
this
toilet
was
a
barrier
to
them
even
attending
apart.
So
that
was
a
lot
higher
than
even
we
expected
other
elements
we
looked
at
under
access
to
play
an
example.
F
There
would
be
perhaps
a
slide
where
you
find
a
slide
that
is
wider
and
that's
great,
because
that's
encouraging
a
parent
to
maybe
take
down
a
child
that
can
walk,
but
quite
often
we're
refined
in
parents
were
saying
that
those
slides
weren't
accessible.
So
maybe
they
had
steps
up
to
them
or
ropes,
so
they
couldn't
actually
get
a
wheelchair
buggy
to
the
top
of
that
piece
of
equipment
and
participation
implied
a
lot
of
people
asking
about
more
access
to
sand
and
water
play
and
musical
items,
and
particularly
looking
at
play
value.
F
So
what
is
the
choice
within
a
play
park
for
a
child?
You
know
it's
not
about
every
child
being
able
to
take
part
on
every
piece
of
equipment.
That's
not
the
aim,
but
every
child
should
have
equal,
Choice
and
and
opportunities
to
take
part
that
are
equally
rich
and
play
value.
So
it
is
about
choice
and
what
the
offering
is
so,
for
example,
if
a
piece
of
equipment
is
ramped,
that's
great
where's
that
lead
into
and
what's
it
actually
doing
in
terms
of
play
value.
F
So
what
really
is
key
about
this?
Let
me
let
me
play
study,
we're
delighted
to
say,
as
Alan
touched
on
earlier,
that
we
actually
have
unified
approach
now
from
across
the
UK.
The
UK
plays
the
FD
forum
and
the
children's
play
policy
Forum,
which
are
representative
bodies
of
the
main
play
organizations
and
play
industry
across
the
UK
and
came
out
with
a
landmark
experiment
in
support
of
our
study
and
its
findings.
F
You
know
when
we're
talking
about
inclusion
and
access
at
play
parks
there's
quite
often
a
wide
variation
of
opinions
and
challenges,
but
this
is
the
first
time
that
we've
all
been
on
the
same
page,
so
it's
really
really
exciting.
And,
interestingly,
this
statement
made
clear
that
accessible
and
inclusive
do
not
mean
the
same.
Those
are
separate
terms
and
shouldn't
be
used
interchangeably.
F
So
there
came
to
see
how
we're
going
to
now
progress
in
Northern,
Ireland
and
and
how
they
can
support
us
moving
forward.
You
know
with
a
unified
approach
across
the
UK,
so
just
talking
about
next
steps,
then
if
we
just
move
on
there,
Alan
so
building
on
the
let
me
play
and
the
psf
statement,
we
are
now
about
to
develop
guidance,
memory
and
play
play
board
together
and
really
drill
down
into
the
detail
of
what
is
accessible.
F
F
E
That's
great,
thank
you
Alex,
as
Alex
says
we
have
both
the
the
let
me
play
document
which
really
details
and
the
the
findings
of
that
Northern
ireland-based
study,
which
is
quite
extremely
interesting.
Just
in
terms
of
some
of
the
the
issues
there
is,
but
also
I
would
encourage
you
to
read
the
the
foreign
statement
as
well
on
the
player
safety
Forum
website.
E
Let
me
player
findings
and
really
begin
to
apply
the
recommendations
into
the
park
and
play
part
planning
processes.
We're
asking
that
the
terminology,
definitions
and
recommendations
which
are
very
clearly
articulated
within
the
UK
statement.
You
know
that
they
really
become
Central
to
the
process
at
Council
level.
Again
we're
asking
Alex
mention
the
importance
of
participation,
but
we're
asking
that
participative
today,
processes
are
really
cemented
into
the
core
of
the
play
development
process,
moving
forward,
involving
families
on
communities
really
throughout
the
design
process
itself.
E
We're
asking
countries
to
initiate
a
plan
to
deliver
inclusive
play,
Parts
a
strategically
important
sites
and
really
the
whole
point
of
that
is
to
try
to
ensure
the
children
with
disabilities
are
able
to
access
an
inclusive
play
experience
within
a
reasonable
travel
distance
from
their
home.
And
when
you
read
the
research,
you
will
see
that
you
know
that
the
distance
Founders
have
to
travel
and
in
some
cases
is
quite
significant.
E
B
I
Madam
chair
first
of
all,
thanks
for
bringing
me
in
at
the
stage
I
must
say
that
very
interesting
document,
I
I
read
it
with
interest,
but
more
to
the
point.
I
have
had
the
comments
from
my
party
colleague,
councilor
Florida,
who
I
I
believe
initiated
a
this
request
originally
for
a
presentation.
So
I
am
delighted
that
we're
here
getting
that
presentation
equally
sorry
and
apologize
for
conscious
who
is
unable
to
be
with
us,
but
she
has
assured
me
she
has
read
this
document
over
and
over
and
fully
understands
the
issues.
I
I
have
read
it
myself
and
I.
Take
you
to
the
asks
and
the
number
four
of
those
is
to
undertake
a
review
of
the
current
a
player
part
portfolio
to
ensure
all
are
accessible
by
and
large.
I'm.
Not
perfectly
sure
at
this
point,
whether
all
honor
omit
the
criteria
of
being
accessible
or
fully
accessible
in
the
context
of
this
report,
but
I
would
superpose
that
we
actually
do
that
that
we
we
carry
out
that
review
and
undertake
to
look
at
it.
I
G
Thank
you
chair
on
a
good
evening,
members
Justin,
listen
to
Alderman
Spears
question
members
will
be
aware.
The
play
astrology
was
developed
in
2015
and
fear
is
one
of
the
player's
charity
was
agreed
by
by
members
and
reduce
the
delivery
of
phase
one
as
we
looked
at
potentially
Embark
upon
Affairs
too,
before
we
actually
commence
fears
to,
we
will
carry
out
a
review
of
the
strategy
and
opiate
astrology
in
accordance
with
the
the
presentation
and
any
other
good
practice,
so
take
that
back
to
members
before
we
would
Implement
a
few
study
of
astrology.
H
There
was
a
number
of
questions
sort
of
jumped
out
at
me
there
with
regards
to
500
respondents,
and
it
was
obviously
disappointing
to
see
those
percentages
and
I
was
just
wondering
how
many
of
those
500
respondents
were
from
the
Arma,
Banbridge
and
Craig
Avenue,
and
because
you
know
looking
at
that,
40
is
200
are
written.
Their
experience
as
poor
or
very
poor
and
I'd
be
very
keen
to
understand
why
they
rated
those
experiences
as
poor
and
very
poor
and
I
was
just
wondering.
H
Were
they
linked
into
the
other
percentages
of
you
know
unable
to
use
a
play,
Parker
softness
it
would
like
so
and
then
you
know
I'm
much
of
that
40
percent
rate
in
their
experience
as
poor
or
very
poor,
was
also
connected
to
the
distance.
They
had
to
travel,
I
hope,
I'm,
not
overly
complicated
in
the
statistics,
but
I
think
you're
probably
know
what
I'm
trying
to
grasp
at,
but
mainly
what
I'd
like
to
understand
is
how
many
was
from
our
local
area.
Here,
thanks
Madam,
chair.
F
E
I
just
went
Alex
is
checking
that
right
in
terms
of
the
this
was
the
negative
experience
some
some
some
families
reported.
You
know
there
were
a
combination
of
issues.
For
that
I
mean
we
were
dealing
with
families
of
children
who
have,
in
some
cases
very
severe
disabilities.
So
you
had
issues
where,
quite
simply
that
there
was
nothing
maybe
available
within
the
local
area.
E
So
you
know
we
had
families
there,
who
were
maybe
traveling
an
hour
an
hour
and
a
half
in
order
to
access
a
sec
that
would
provide
them
with
some
level
of
play,
provision
that
would
meet
their
child's
needs.
You
know
as
well
as
that
I
mean
I'll
expense
into
changing
places,
toilets
and
again,
you
know
there
is
that
need
if
you're
going
to,
particularly
if
you're
going
to
want
to
go
to
a
play
park.
E
For
you
know
two
or
three
hours,
you
know
a
daily
people
want
to
go
and
spend
time
with
the
full
family
there,
and
you
know
the
the
absence
of
changing
places.
Toilet
can
mean
that
actually,
regardless
of
of
the
type
of
equipment
you
have,
regardless
of
the
inclusive
play
experience,
if
the
changing
places
toilet
is
not
actually
there
and
accessible
and
there
they
get
it
kind
of
negates.
E
You
know
the
actual
opportunity
to
go
to
the
site
itself,
so
there
were
a
broad
range
within
that,
but
a
lot
of
it
came
down
to,
in
some
cases,
even
non
non-play
park
or
non-playground
issues.
So,
for
example,
insufficient
parking
lack
of
drop
carbs.
You
know
the
the
surrounding
area
itself,
maybe
not
having
been
designed
in
a
way
that
actually
facilitates
families
and
Facilities
children
with
disabilities
in
order
to
access
it.
E
So
again
you
could
have,
in
theory
a
quite
a
quite
a
well-designed
inclusive
play
park,
but
in
some
cases
there
were
impediments
or
barriers
to
actually
reaching
the
space
itself
and
again
for
some
families
that
simply
wasn't
it
just
wasn't
conducive
to.
You
know
a
quality
experience
and
visiting
the
site
itself.
B
F
F
And
then
there
was
a
there
was
a
there
was
a
split
with
with
a
few
families
traveling
to
a
few
other
Parks,
but
even
at
those
ones
that
we
we're
traveling
a
long
distance.
They
still
weren't
overly
satisfied
with
the
experience
at
the
end
of
it.
So
really,
when
you
look
at
we,
we
did
purposefully
ask
the
question
to
say:
okay,
what
good
practice
is
they're
out
there,
which
part
meets
all
of
your
needs
and
from
500
participants?
F
You
know
significantly
well
enough
for
the
parents
and
the
families
to
to
react
at
any
park
in
Northern
Ireland
as
as
extremely
well,
so
I
suppose
that
the
travel
is
is
still
they're
traveling,
but
they're
still
traveling
to
what
they
in
many
instances
consider
a
substandard
park
that
doesn't
meet
all
of
their
needs.
Does
that
answer
the
question.
D
C
Just
wondering
how
much
planning
goes
into
the
actual
site
of
a
player,
Park
and
and
means
encounter
as
I
say:
I.
Imagine
that
not
be
suitable,
but
some
will
obviously
be
more
suitable
than
others
and
I
think
it
has
a
council
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
provide
is
as
accessible
as
possible
and
as
helpful
to
people
as
possible.
So
it's
a
useful
report,
but
I
I
can
understand
the
difficulties
of
definition,
good.
B
I
In
the
interest
of
what
Jonathan
said
in
response
to
my
question,
have
we
attained
Lane
for
a
lot?
Would
you
see
a
timeline?
I
mean
I'm,
happy
to
propose
or
I'm
equally
happy
to
withdraw
The
Proposal
in
the
knowledge
that
it's
happening,
but
it
would
like
a
a
timeline,
and,
secondly,
are
we
I
know
we're
speaking
primarily
about
accessibility
or
disabled?
It's,
which
is,
is
very
good
to
be
a
focused
known
and
I
just
question
the
the
responses.
I
I
think
it
was
Margaret
because
certainly
said
500
and
the
percentage
wise
whatever.
But
if
you
go
to
some
of
her
old
and
I
refer
to
maybe
One's
near
Home
in
in
Ridge
Hill,
for
instance,
they're
there
for
some
time
so
I
think
you
know
the
the
issue
of
accessibility
may
be
more
applied
to
the
older
ones.
I
I
think
we
would
be
extremely
foolish
as
a
council
to
have
a
policy
currently
providing
player
facilities
that
wasn't
don't
play
accessible,
so
I'm,
assuming
that's
a
given
but
I,
think
we're
speaking
rather
about
the
older
players,
which
are
maybe
not
to
that
point.
So
I
would
want
to
focus
on
that.
If
I
can,
because
if
it's,
if
it's
good
enough
for
common
Bond
or
ordered
iron,
it's
good
enough
for
Rich
Hill
and
Market
Hill,
another
single
lose
out
for
any
particular
reason
or
an
example,
but
I
think
we
do
need
a
focus
on
that.
I
G
Thank
you,
chair
and
again,
thank
you
members
for
your
your
questions
so
certainly
enriched
the
timeline.
The
Proposal
would
be
that
the
review
would
be
carried
out
before
we
commence
the
the
next
phase
of
the
of
the
player
astrology.
We
are
coming
towards
the
end
of
fears.
One
of
the
player
strategy
slot
review
would
be
completed,
brought
back
to
members
with
recommendations
for
adoption
of
astrology,
along
with
a
list
of
what
would
be
included
within
phase
two
of
the
player
Park
strategy.
B
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
to
respond
to
a
lot
of
those
points
there
and,
as
Alan
mentioned
earlier,
it's
difficult
because
this
is
a
very
complex
topic
that
we're
discussing
and
and
it's
a
very
detailed
report,
but
I'll
try
if
I
can
just
to
to
to
summarize
in
that
what
we
really
are
asking.
What
we
really
want
you
to
focus
on
at
the
minute
is
the
inclusive
level.
F
Not
access
access
is
going
to
come
so
at
the
moment
and
we're
looking
at
every
Park
every
there
should
be
a
strategy
within
Council
that,
as
Alan
says,
every
child
should
have
the
opportunity
to
take
part
in
a
park
that
is
suitable
to
their
needs
and
and
offers
choice
to
their
needs,
like
every
part,
can't
be
inclusive
but
the
inclusive
element,
the
inclusive
parks.
That
is
the
all
for
one
of
a
better
word,
the
all
singing
all
dancing
park.
That
is
where
you
will
have
choice.
F
You
will
have
rescue
we'll,
have
toilet
and
you
will
have
Services.
That's
that's
what
that
label
means.
So
we're
really
looking
at
what
parks
within
the
Arma
and
Banbridge
and
Craig
avenario.
You
want
to
identify
as
inclusive
by
default
that
may
happen
to
be
or
larger
Destination
type
Park.
So
it
would
urge
that
the
review
starts
there.
When
we
drill
down
into
accessible,
then
what
we're
saying
is
that
as
a
bare
minimum
every
other
park
that
is
on
a
straight
corner
or
or
wherever,
obviously
it
can
be
inclusive.
F
We
can't
of
changing
places,
toilets
and
wheelchair
swings
and
a
whole
selection
of
choice,
but
all
of
these
little
tiny,
smaller
Parks.
But
what
we're
saying
is
they
need
to
be
accessible
as
a
bare
minimum
like
to
drill
down
into
what
the
success
accessible
mean
versus
inclusive.
We
have
lots
of
definitions
in
the
study
at
the
minute
as
to
what
you
need
to
include
to
make
a
park
inclusive
in
terms
of
access.
That's
really
going
to
come
with
the
next
piece
of
work.
F
So
if
Council
started
with
looking
at
the
larger
parks
and
inclusion,
then
by
the
time-
and
if
you
plan
to
audit,
then
the
remainder
of
the
parks
by
the
time
you're
getting
to
that
element
if
you've
committed.
If
you
would
commit
to
that,
then
play
board
and
may
Marie
will
have
that
piece
of
work,
finished
and
you'll
have
a
good
guide
as
to
you
know
what
required
to
take
that
piece
of
work
forward,
and
hopefully
that
makes
a
bit
more
sense.
Now.
F
J
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
Alex
and
Allen
very
interesting
report,
and
it's
it's
definitely
something
we
as
we
as
a
group
of
counselors
need
to
be
cognizant
of
just
I.
Suppose
a
quest
may
be
more
directed
towards
officers
and
I
would
have
probably
naively
felt
like,
for
example,
Lurgan
Park,
which
is
probably
well.
It
is
a
district
player
Park,
it's
the
second
biggest
park
in
Ireland
it
it
does
have
it
it.
J
Isn't
it
what
we
would
call
an
inclusive
play
area,
I'm
assuming,
but
as
part
of
the
review,
that's
going
to
be
done
and
and
I
know,
this
is
cross-cotton
across
departments.
But
surely
the
access
to
changing
a
toilet
facilities
has
to
be
factored
in
here
by
our
Council
officers,
because
that
is
something
that
I
know
that
children
of
all
abilities
age
groups.
J
Everything
people
have
brought
this
up
with
me
as
a
representative
for
the
area
to
say
that
they
are
reluctant
at
times
to
use
a
district
player
Park
in
Lurgan
because
of
the
lack
of
just
general
toilet
facilities,
even
in
the
area.
So
I
suppose
it's
a
question
more
directed
officers
to
confirm,
hopefully
that
as
part
of
that
review,
around
inclusivity
and
accessibility
that
the
toilet
facilities-
you
know,
even
in
the
bigger
player
parks,
for
example,
will
be
considered.
Thank
you,
chair.
G
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
just
in
relation
to
the
review.
Certainly,
if
members
are
are
happy,
we
can
include
that
within
the
scope
of
the
review,
certainly
not
something
that
members
have
mentioned
on
a
number
of
occasions,
but
certainly
officers
can
include
that
within
the
scope
and
feedback
command,
which
is
part
of
the
of
the
review
of
the
player
strategy,.
B
K
I
suppose,
there's
a
number
of
questions
that
I
can
answer
at
this
point
in
time,
the
first
one
being
that
our
current
review
is
already
ongoing
and
we
started
the
review
in
June
of
this
year
and
we're
currently
working
through
that
and
we
are
currently
and
just
about
to
start
the
order
of
our
play
parks.
Okay,
thankfully,
where
we
have
that
process
and
sort
of
already
just
about
to
begin,
and
that
is
our
midterm
strategy
review.
K
So
we're
looking
at
what
we
have
done
at
currently
in
the
first
capital
player
development
program
and
we're
a
bit
reviewing
what
has
worked.
Maybe
what
has
worked
and
what
we
can
do
better
and
we
inclusive
play
is
a
big
big
part
of
that
and
we
will
be
presenting
by
team
members
and
and
probably
January
February
next
year.
K
Before
the
end
of
the
current
capital
Care
development
program,
and
then
that
will
inform
what
our
next
Capital
play,
development
program
will
look
we'll
look
at
now
for
the
current
capital
play
the
prep
and
development
program
for
the
39,
clear
parks
that
we
have
completed.
We
have
at
least
five
pieces
of
inclusive
equipment
that
hasn't
included
in
all
of
those
play
parks.
All
of
those
play
parks
are
accessible
but
again
with
a
focus
on
our
destination
parks,
and
we
have.
K
We
are
starting
to
get
to
a
place
where
we
are
able
to
provide
a
lot
of
inclusivity,
but
as
I
say
it's
something
that
we
will
continue
to
work
on
and
we
have
developed
a
number
of
changing
places,
units
in
then
two
of
our
play
parks
recently
and
again,
that's
something
that
we
will
focus
on
and
going
forward
and
where
we
do
have
our
our
wheelchair
strings,
where
we
will
try
to
have
our
change
in
place
there.
So
we're
looking
at
that
whole
infrastructure
and
in
and
around
the
player
Park.
K
So
that
is
something
that
we
will
and
and
from
these
reports
we
will
continue
to
work
with
play
board
and
memory
and
for
any
advice
that
they
can
give
to
us
and
in
going
forward-
and
just
there
was
another
couple
of
questions
to
design
and
that
one
of
our
councilors
asked
about
the
design
process
for
some
of
the
play.
Parks
could
be
up
on
four
years
and
and
so
it
can
take
quite
a
while
and
to
get
all
the
consultations
and
everything
complete.
K
And
so
it
can
be
anything
from
two
years
to
four
years
to
it's
usually
around
two
years,
but
for
the
bigger
parts
of
those
player
parks.
Where
you
have
a
wee
bit
more
attention,
it
can
take
quite
a
wee
bit
of
time,
so
the
design
process
can
be
quite
long
and
we
do
try
to
include
everybody
in
that
and
and
I
suppose,
just
to
finish
on
our
the
last
District
to
play
part
that
we
complete
this
scarver
and
we
have
developed
a
piece
of
equipment
in
that.
K
That
is
in
no
other
play
park
in
the
world.
That
is
inclusive
and
we
call
it
the
wobbly
bridge
and
it's
it's
now
another
piece
it
has
come
out
of
observations
of
children
used
in
the
play
parks
and
it's
it's
one
of
its
kind
and
it's
actually
going
to
be
rolled
out
now
worldwide.
So
we
are
constantly
trying
to
look
at
what
we
can
do
to
make
play
experiences
accessible
for
all
and
and
we
will
continue
to
walk
with
old
and
Alan
to
and
improve
in
any
way
that
we
possibly
can
so.
B
D
B
D
L
B
B
You
know
I
I'm,
a
mom
and
I
know
what
it
takes
for
me
to
organize
to
get
a
couple
of
kids
out
to
play
a
park
and
I
can't
even
imagine
the
lived
experience
and
that
children
or
the
families
with
children
with
disabilities
the
amount
of
preparation
that
would
go
in
and
to
prepare
them
to
to
go
for
a
day
out
with
these
children,
but
then
to
arrive
at
these
places.
Only
to
have
maybe
like
somebody
was
saying
earlier
things
Alex
was
saying
about
you
know,
are
there
drop
curbs?
B
Are
there
accessible
toilets
you
know
is
the
is
the
equipment
of
the
standard?
I
can
only
imagine
what
it's
like
and
for
a
family
to
to
get
ready
to
do
all
our
planning
to
get
for
a
day
out
only
to
be
met
with
a
facility
that
just
doesn't,
you
know,
satisfy
the
needs
of
their
family,
but
we
are
doing
well.
You
know
we
have
another
item
later
on
Alex
and
Allah.