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From YouTube: Planning and Regulatory Services Committee on Wednesday the 7th July 2021 at 3.00pm in the Council
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Armagh City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council Planning and Regulatory Services Committee on Wednesday the 7th of July 2021 at 3.00pm in the Council Chamber at Craigavon Civic and Conference Centre.
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F
Thank
you,
chair
and
good
afternoon
numbers
remember,
you'll,
see
from
that
report
before
you.
Some
of
the
the
headline
figures
around,
for
example,
live
applications
in
the
system
and
so
on.
But
I'll
take
you
through
some
of
the
details
on
that
and
between
april
and
june
of
this
year
the
number
of
planning
applications
received
was
495,
which
is
179
more
than
for
the
same
period
last
year
and
91
more
than
the
same
period
the
year
before,
which
was
pre-covered.
F
So
this
tells
us
that
there
it's
a
very
strong
indicator
of
how
high
the
application
numbers
are
at
the
moment,
you'll
also
see
from
the
report.
There
are
a
number
of
applications
decided
between
april
and
june
of
this
year.
It
was
310
which
is
200
more
than
for
the
same
period
last
year
and
only
64
less
than
for
the
same
period.
The
year
before,
which
was
pre-covered
again
and
so
back
two
years
ago
we
had
a
full
complement
of
staff.
F
The
number
of
applications
coming
in
was
significantly
lower,
so
the
number
of
applications
we're
deciding
at
the
moment
there's
not
much
of
a
difference
between
those
two
time
periods.
If
you
like
so
again,
I
hope
that's
an
indication
of
the
the
number
of
applications
that
staff
are
actually
able
achieving
getting
getting
out
of
the
system
at
the
moment,
you'll
also
see
there.
F
Now
all
that
means
at
the
moment
we
have
1575
applications
in
the
system.
That
number
has
gone
up
from
last
month,
but
we
are
working
to
recruit
additional
staff.
As
you
know,
amongst
those
staff
coming
in,
we
expect
to
see
those
numbers
go
down
and
the
number
of
call-in
applications
members
during
the
month
of
june
was
three
which
takes
the
number
of
call-ins
for
a
year
to
date
to
seven
and
sure
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
queries
around
any
of
that.
Thank
you.
F
It
is
about
ensuring
that
applications
that
come
in
without
all
the
necessary
information
which
clog
up
the
system
under
using
the
system
as
an
mot
check
that
we
are
allowed
to
process
those,
and
you
know
without
delay,
if
you
like
and
again,
because
I
can't
give
too
much
detail
the
stage
we'll
go
into
that
later.
But
that
is
a
matter
that
has
been
addressed.
F
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H
H
Would
you
like
me
to
go
back
to
item
number
3.1
share
yep
go
ahead,
just
okay,
thanks
chair
and
good
afternoon,
everybody,
northern
ireland
transport
statistics
publication,
which
is
produced
by
the
analysis,
statistics
and
research.
Branch
of
the
department
for
infrastructure,
presents
information
on
the
road
network
and
public
transport,
along
with
national
statistics
and
management,
information
on
accessible
transport
in
northern
ireland.
H
The
most
recent
northern
ireland
transport
statistics
publication
was
for
2019-2020
and
contained
high-level
information
at
mainly
northern
ireland-wide
level,
such
as
kilometers
of
public
road
in
northern
ireland,
by
class
money
spent
on
roads
from
2019
to
2020.,
the
number
of
buses,
trains
and
ages
stopped
by
ulster
bus,
metro,
glider
and
trains.
The
number
of
bus
and
transport
journeys,
the
average
number
of
journeys
per
person
by
mode
and
the
purpose,
and
the
accessibility
figures
on
public
transport
and
disability
accessibility.
H
So,
as
a
result,
the
department
for
infrastructure
is
seeking
views
and
comments
from
all
interested
parties.
With
regard
to
the
cessation
of
the
northern
ireland
transport
statistics
report
in
its
current
format
and
also
in
proposals
for
a
new
official
statistics.
Publication
on
public
transport,
in
line
with
current
user
need
in
its
current
format,
the
publication
is
considered
too
high
level
to
be
of
any
tangible
benefit
to
the
local
development
plan
and
does
not
provide
any
quality
or
robust
evidence
based
for
the
plan.
H
D
D
I
Thank
you
chairman,
good
afternoon
members
item.
4.1
is
a
request
for
naming
about
a
development
consisting
of
seven
dwellings
located
at
lego,
horry
road,
like
a
quarry
rotary
in
ritual
maps
in
appendix
one,
the
applicant's
preferred
name
plus
development,
is
stone
bridge
view.
The
applicant's
reasoning
is
that
the
proposed
name
relates
to
the
close
proximity
of
the
well-known
stone
bridge
roundabout.
G
D
I
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
a
request
for
naming
your
development
consisting
of
eight
billions,
and
the
site
is
located
at
thomas
road
and
during
gallon,
details
are
in
appendix
2..
The
applicant's
preferred
nameplace
development
is
flawnmore
manor,
and
the
abigain's
reasoning
is
that
the
development
is
located
within
the
thailand
of
klonmore
and
is
accessed
off
the
tomorrow
road.
I
Given
the
the
site
and
the
proximity
of
the
site
to
the
boundary
with
mid-ulster
district
council
officers
have
sought
and
obtained
confirmation
that
the
proposed
names
are
not
duplicated
in
any
similar
name
already
in
their
surrounding
area.
Within
that
council
again
officer's
recommendation
is
for
approval
and
have
you
take
members
questions.
D
I
I
The
applicant
has
now
advised
that,
as
a
result
of
planning
issues,
the
drum
crew
road
is
no
longer
to
be
realigned
and
has
therefore
requested
that
this
section
section
in
blue
and
now
be
included
within
the
original
name.
The
spars
I
said,
recommendations,
therefore,
as
for
members
of
approval
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
G
I
The
information
contains
a
number
of
new
number
of
recorded
new
dwellings
that
have
been
started
and
those
completed
in
the
council
areas.
The
full
report
is
available
right
from
quarter
1
of
2015
to
quarter
1
of
2021,
and
it
can
be
viewed
online
in
the
website
noted
in
the
report,
notably
at
appendix
4a,
which
is
an
extra
extract
from
table
1.3
for
the
new
dwelling
starts
for
each
council
from
quarter
one
of
2015
to
quarter.
I
I
D
Thank
you
tom
for
that,
and
certainly
definitely
great
to
see
the
continued
residential
growth
in
our
that
abc
council
is
the
best
baron
and
nolan
out
and
suppose
people
are
voting
with
their
fate
and
moving
here
in
great
numbers
to
make
use
of
our
various
larger
assets
such
as
the
craig
alvin
x
behind
us.
So
that's
good
to
see
and
hope
it
continues.
Councillor
nicholson.
J
Yeah
yeah,
I
totally
agree
tom
thanks
your
report
on
and
I
suppose,
on
behalf
of
the
committee,
I
think
sure,
when
you
sort
of
say
to
tom
and
the
staff
big.
Thank
you
because
construction
is
unprecedented
at
the
sheer
amount
that's
going
on
and
as
we
can
see
how
much
difficult
it
is
in
our
planning
system.
But
thankfully
our
billing
control
system
seems
to
be
managing
tom
made
us
different,
but
it
looks
like
you
know.
J
Obviously,
one
of
the
busiest
boroughs,
as
you
say
and
within
northern
ireland
and
is
to
say
it's
great
to
see
it
and
and
obviously
the
rate
space
coming
in
sure
will
be
a
an
added
value
for
to
to
the
council.
But
look
tom
just
suppose.
My
half
myself
and
the
whole
committee
is
thanks
to
your
staff,
because
I
see
you
guys
the
rock
face,
and
I
know
how
quickly
you
turn
these
things
around.
So
big
thanks
and
say
long
may
continue.
Thank
you.
L
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Alderman
barr.
The
plan
team
is
getting
on
a
great
job
as
well.
I'm
sure
they'll
agree.
So
thank
you.
Don't
see
any
more
lights
on
so
for.
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
item
4.5,
it's
another
information
item
of
building,
building,
control
and
property
certificate
application
workload,
tom.
I
Thank
you,
sir.
Yes,
this
kind
of
links
to
the
last
report
and
just
an
update
on
the
workload
undertaken
by
the
department
from
the
first
of
april
to
the
30th
of
june
this
year
motivated
appendix
five.
In
the
first
three
months
of
this
financial
year,
we
received
911
applications
with
a
notional
construction
value
of
just
under
67
million.
I
During
the
3-month
period
we
undertook
623
plan
assessments
and
the
statutory
decision
orders
were
issued
on
all
of
these.
The
department
also
completed
3962
satan's
functions
in
the
last
month,
currently
with
public
staff
vacancies
and
with
an
influx
of
applications.
Our
turnaround
times
are
not
as
fast
as
we
would
like
them,
but,
following
on
from
members
approval
last
month,
we
have
commenced,
with
recruitment
for
currently
vacant
posts.
I
We
are
acutely
aware
that
every
application
that
comes
to
us
has
got
finance
behind
it
and
if
we
delay
the
finance
that
has
an
impact
in
our
construction
industry
as
well-
and
thirdly,
is
the
rates
the
quicker
we
get
it
built
and
the
smoother
we
get
it
built
the
quicker
with
that
it
goes
onto
the
hbs.
So
that's
the
target
for
the
experience
in
the
service.
I
The
department
also
continues
to
deliver
the
currencies
property
certificate
function
for
the
conveyancing
of
properties
across
the
borough.
Again,
this
is
considerably
high
in
numbers.
This
point
in
time.
In
the
first
three
months,
we've
received
and
administered
1256
new
applications,
and
we
have
processed
and
issued
1227
certificates
to
and
agents
relating
to
these
property
sales.
I
D
Thank
you
tom.
I
don't
see
any
lights,
though
so
happy
to
note
numbers,
okay,
happy
to
note.
Okay,
we're
on
the
agenda
item
five,
which
is
a
confidential
report
I
require
proposing
on
the
second
order,
to
move
into
committee
posed
by
councillor
nicholson
seconded
by
country
duffy.
I
think
I
just
have
to
read
out
the
following
statement:
members
and
online
viewers.
In
accordance
with
schedule,
6
of
the
local
government
act
exact
information.
D
We
will
now
be
moving
into
a
confidential
session
of
the
council.
This
means
that
we
will
be
turning
off
the
public
fade
of
the
meeting.
This
will
be
returned
when
the
meeting
is
restarted.
Can
I
ask
the
iet
officers
to
please
turn
off
the
live,
feed
and
confirm
with
me
when
confidential
session
of
this
meeting
cumbersome?
Thank.
D
D
F
Thank
you
sure,
members,
the
three
items
correspondence
as
the
chair
mentioned,
and
the
first
one
was
a
letter
from
nilga
did
of
the
night
of
june,
as
you'll
have
seen
it's
advising
of
the
regional
program
for
elected
member
development
for
2021-22,
and
it
includes
within
it.
The
local
planning
program,
so
fairly
comprehensive
program
covers
all
aspects
of
the
planning
function
and
we're
being
invited
to
bring
forward
three
nominations
from
the
council
which
are
required
by
the
31st
of
august.
F
D
D
Thank
you
damian
and
I
don't
see
any
lights
on
so
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
agenda
item
item
it,
which
is
any
other
rather
than
business.
I
haven't
received
any
other
relevant
business,
so
we
just
have
a
short
recess
until
four
o'clock
until
the
consideration
of
the
filing
application.
So,
lastly,
I
tell
you
to
turn
off
the
live
aid.
Please
thank.
D
D
D
However,
due
to
covert
restrictions,
the
number
of
persons
who
can
physically
be
facilitated
in
the
chamber
severely
limited
as
a
result,
members
of
the
public
are
only
able
to
view
the
meeting
on
youtube
and
anyone
wishing
to
address
the
committee
has
been
invited
in
the
first
instance
as
attendee,
vastly
audio
recording
is
being
used
to
assist
and
preparing
the
formal
minutes.
Therefore,
anyone
participating
in
the
meeting
consents
to
it
being
recorded
and
being
live
streamed
on
youtube.
D
Also,
during
the
course
of
this
meeting,
questions
may
be
asked
by
councillors,
who
are
members
of
a
planning
and
regulatory
services
committee
planning
officers.
Applicants
for
planning
permission
objectives
are
always
speaking
on
their
behalf
and
doing
so
counselors
endeavor
to
ask
attending
information
which
the
fate
is
necessary
to
enable
lamb
to
determine
the
application.
D
J
D
M
Yep,
thank
you,
chair
on
a
meeting
of
the
planned
regularly
service
committee
held
a
wednesday,
the
2nd
of
june.
It
was
agreed
that
application
laoe
at
2020,
1055,
oh
by
timothy
juke,
be
deferred
to
allow
submission
of
additional
information
by
the
applicant
in
relation
to
planned
appeal
decisions
referred
to
within
his
presentation
and
pending
a
site
visit
by
members.
M
The
site
visit
took
place
on
wednesday,
the
9th
of
june
at
2
30
pm.
The
members
who
are
listed
within
the
report
had
the
opportunity
to
view
the
sites
the
genius
indictment
and
the
confines
of
the
site
in
the
context
of
the
surrounding
development,
to
ask
to
ascertain
the
existence
or
non-existence
of
a
cluster
at
this
location.
M
Members
also
walk
to
the
focal
building,
which
is
the
orange
hall
of
cranny
lien,
the
applicant
smelled,
a
lengthy
rebuttal,
which
included
a
number
of
appeal
decisions.
You
can
see
from
the
report
that
these
have
all
been
rebutted.
This
noted
in
relation
to
cty2a
the
clustering
policy.
They
were
instant.
Their
instances
were
if
the
site
didn't
meet.
One
of
the
criterion
the
psc
looked
at
the
proposal
on
the
round.
However,
this
site
does
not
meet
four
of
the
criterion.
M
Furthermore,
in
every
appeal
decision
percentage,
there
was
a
cluster.
A
visual
entity
within
the
local
landscape
officers
would
still
contend
that
no
such
cluster
of
visual
entity
exists
at
this
location.
For
the
reasons,
none
of
the
pale
decisions
presented
are
directly
comparable
to
this
site
and
therefore
do
not
alter
officer
opinion.
As
regards
to
meeting
the
policy
under
cty2a.
M
As
regards
to
cty8
infill
policy,
you
will
note
that
the
building
was
cleared
and
members
were
able
to
view
the
building
adjacent.
You
will
note
that
there
is
no
planned
history
associated
with
this
building.
However,
officer
would
also
be
of
the
opinion,
irrespective
of
the
lawful
status
of
that
building,
the
state
is
still
so
small
that
it'll
be
out
of
character
with
any
of
the
surrounding
development.
For
the
same
reason,
officers
will
also
be
of
the
pending
the
proposal,
but
therefore
field
policy,
cty
14,
as
out
of
character
of
the
surrounding
bell
form.
M
D
D
M
Yeah
as
regarding
cty,
yet
you
will
note
that
the
building
was
cleared
and
members
were
able
to
view
the
building
adjacent.
You
will
note
there
was
no
plan
on
history
associated
with
this
building.
However,
officers
would
also
be
of
the
opinion,
irrespective
of
the
lawful
status
of
that
building
the
site
is
so
small
that
will
be
out
of
character
with
any
of
the
surrounding
development.
For
the
same
reason,
officers
will
also
be
the
opinion.
M
D
M
M
As
regards
to
cty8,
you
will
know
the
building
was
cleared
and
members
were
able
to
view
the
building
adjacent.
You
will
note
that
there
is
no
plan
history
associated
with
this
building.
However,
officers
would
also
be
of
the
opinion
that
I
respect
of
the
lawful
status
of
that
building.
The
site
is
so
small
that
it'll
be
out
of
character
with
any
of
the
surrounding
development.
For
the
same
reasons,
officers
would
also
be
the
opinion
that
the
proposal
therefore
fails
policy
cty
14
in
that
development
is
out
of
character
with
a
surrounding
built
form.
M
M
That's
the
site
in
the
location,
the
site,
the
general
area
members
will
be
now
familiar
with
it
being
at
the
site.
Visit
next
slide,
please
that's
an
aerial
view
of
the
opposed
site
in
the
general
context
of
the
surrounding
development.
Next
slide,
please
that's
the
site
location
plan.
As
you
note
from
cty8,
we
have
to
look
at
the
gap
between
buildings.
M
M
And
that's
the
view
of
the
site
includes
the
garage
building,
that's
going
to
be
retained
and
the
site
will
just
be
in
front
of
you
there,
as
members
will
now
be
aware.
Next
slide,
please
that's
the
view
of
the
structure
beside
with
no
planned
history,
you'll
note
that
from
the
site,
inspection
that
has
been
cleared
and
allow
members
to
view
the
building,
but
I
suppose
I
said
in
the
presentation,
irrespective
of
the
lawful
status
of
that
building,
we
still
contend
that
the
development
site
is
so
small.
M
It'll
be
out
of
characters
right,
build
form
next
slide.
Please
that's
a
few
from
the
site
entrance
up
towards
bali,
durgan
road,
so
you
can't
see
the
building
or
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
road.
So
it's
not
part
of
any
sort
of
a
cluster
this
site
next
slide.
Please
that's
a
view
that
the
junction
of
valley,
duggan,
road,
blue
road
junction,
is
looking
up
again.
There's
no
visual
entity
as
far
as
we're
concerns
regards
to
a
cluster
of
development.
Next
slide,
please,
and
that's
just
on
down
towards
the
cranny
road
junction.
M
You
can
see
up
the
right
hand
side
again,
we'll
be
off
the
opinion
that
there's
no
visual
entity
here
as
regards
to
clustering
of
development.
Next
slide,
please
that's
just
the
side
view
from
103
blurry
road
towards
the
site.
You
know
that
they
have
objected
to
the
application.
However,
we
will
be
of
the
opinion
that,
subject
to
conditions
that
a
dwelling
type
could
be
designed
to
ensure
there'll,
be
no
overlooking
or
impacting
that
particular
property
next
slide,
please,
and
that
is
the
community
building
that
we
went
to.
M
As
you
know,
yes,
we
do
or
contend
that
that
is
a
community
building.
However,
we
would
say
it
doesn't
cluster
a
with
any
cluster
or
doesn't
visually
be
connected
with
any
cluster
of
that
development.
Next
slide,
please,
that's
just
me
turn
the
camera
around
again
towards
the
left.
As
you
can
see,
we
can't
see
any
of
the
built
form
as
regards
to
the
context
of
of
the
site.
M
Next
slide,
please,
and
that's
just
down
the
top
of
the
road
of
cranny
road.
Looking
down.
You
know
the
site
is
behind
that
dwelling
there
to
the
right-hand
side
there.
That's
the
applicant's
dwelling,
so
it's
behind
there,
so
we'll
still
be
of
the
opinion
that
it's
not
a
visual
entity
here
or
cluster
of
development
and
therefore
it
feels
cty.
Yet
in
that
regard,
our
cty2a
in
that
regard,
thanks
members.
D
Thank
you,
sinead
and
just
the
highlight
members.
Only
those
members
who
attended
the
site
visit
are
able
to
take
part
in
this
application
and
those
intents
today
include
alderman
anderson,
myself,
counselor
nicholas
and
cancer
savage
and
councillor
tillman,
cam
members.
Do
you
have
any
questions
for
sinead
on
this
application,
thanks
for
savage.
E
M
Yeah
the
gap
between
buildings,
as
you
look
at
under
cty,
yet
so
the
gap
between
the
detached
guys
and
the
dwelling
is
24
meters.
However,
you
note
the
application
doesn't
include
at
all.
It
only
includes
14
meters,
so
between
the
detached
yards
and
the
end
of
the
application
site,
which
is
the
development
site
towards
the
gap.
It's
14
meters,
the
site,
frontage
of
am
101
itself
is
40
meters
and
the
dwelling
actually
that
sits
on
101
is
14.5
meters
itself,
so
the
dwelling
is
actually
longer
than
the
site
of
the
gap.
M
The
dwelling
or
103
sets
would
be
a
24.5
meters
again,
that's
14
meters,
the
length
of
that
house,
so
it
would
be
as
big
as
the
gap
itself
on
the
context
of
the
side
elevation
from
101
to
the
end
of
the
application
site.
It
will
be
up
to
45
meters,
so
the
site
of
14
meters,
we're
looking
at
with
the
building
and
the
end
of
it
is
so
restricted,
and
so
small
they'll
be
out
of
character
with
the
surrounding
built
form.
D
J
Yep
thanks
john
thanks
janie
and
obviously
we
all
went
out
in
sight
and
got
to
see
the
situation
in
the
ground,
and
my
question
is
I
I
I
appreciate
under
the
infill
policy
you
know
there
is
sort
of
a
it's
a
small
gap
which
obviously
is
part
of
the
infill
policy
and
and
and
in
in
particular,
the
the
character
of
the
area.
I
I
understand
in
in
in
the
context
of
where
the
site
is
but
and
beyond
it
you
can
see.
There's
no
sight
is
the
same
width
in
in
the
country
side.
J
If
there
was
a
dwelling
in
there,
I
think
we
all
stood
and
looked
into
the
site,
and
you
would
hardly
see
it
you
know,
and
as
and
and
yet
you
told
c2a14a
it
would
be
totally
the
character
of
the
area.
So
are
you
tying
that
completely
on
the
width
of
the
site
and
I.e
the
frontage
of
of
what's
available
in
that
location?
Or
is
there
more
to
it
than
not?
You
know?
Is
there
is
there?
Is
there?
M
Yeah
yeah,
thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
council
nicholson
and
yes,
of
course,
that
there
are
different
frontages
along
the
rural
area.
In
general,
we
have
one
refusing
cty
13,
which
is
integration,
so
we're
content
that
would
be
integrated.
However,
policy
ty
14
says
it
has
to
respect
the
traditional
pattern
of
settlement
accepted
in
that
area
and
we're
above
the
opinion
that
this
does
not
respect.
There
are
large,
detached
houses
within
large,
generous
gardens.
Those
dwellings
themselves
are
set
within
generous
criticism.
M
This
one's
not
as
so
restricted
it's
a
size
that
if
we
were
to
approve
it,
it
would
open
up
the
supposed
potential
president
of
significant
a
number
of
other
applications
coming
forward,
which
has
a
front
range
of
14
meters
wide,
irrespective
of
the
gap
between
the
buildings.
The
buildings
between
101
and
103
is
about
25
meters,
but
you
can
get
even
a
high
speed
in
between
that
if
you're
looking
for
a
gap
of
14
meters,
so
we
would
say
this
is
out
of
context.
M
These
are
large
tax
houses
within
quite
generous
criticism,
and
that
is
the
character
of
this
area
and
for
us,
then,
to
approve
a
development
of
this
size.
I
suppose
we
are
squeezed
into
the
back.
We
would
be
the
fact
that
it
doesn't
respect
the
traditional
pattern
of
settlement
except
not
area,
and
you
would
be
aware
of
it
once
you
get
your
access
and
visibilities
place
in
place,
but
not
that
rule
you,
you
will
be
aware
of
that
state.
D
G
Thank
you
sure,
on
moving
on
to
to
the
clustering
issue,
the
community
building
junior-
I
think
I
may
have
been
asking
this
before,
but
it's
not
tied
down
to
the
distance,
it
is
from
the
proposed
site
or
or
what?
Where
can
we
lend
to
the
community
building?
That
is
the
distance
from
that
proposed
site?
Is
it's
not
a
defined
defined
distance,
so
might
be
some
clarification
on
on
the
whole
clustering
issue
here
on
the
community
building
tile.
M
Yeah,
thank
you
ultraman
for
the
purpose
of
the
policy.
It's
not
about
the
distance
from
the
site
and
there's
nowhere
in
policy
to
say
it
has
to
be
a
certain
distance
and
to
us
it's
not
about
the
distance.
It's
about.
Is
it
associated
with
a
cluster
of
development.
So
we're
saying
the
separation
was
the
separation
of
that
building
from
any
built
form
around
there.
M
When
we
were
down
there,
officers
didn't
wonder
if
the
impression
that
that
was
associated
with
any
particular
cluster,
a
there's,
no
cluster,
there
there's
no
visual
entity,
and
so
therefore
it's
not
it's
not
associated
with
that.
So
the
distance
doesn't
come
into
play
as
regards
this.
The
distance
come
into
play
as
regard
how
far
it's
offset
from
the
existing
build
form
there
and
that,
coupled
with
the
extensive
vegetation,
means
that
it's
not
associated
with
any
sort
of
cluster
there
and
therefore,
for
that
reasons,
it's
being
refused
under
that
criterion.
M
Three,
it's
not
the
distance
per
se.
You
can
have
sites
which
are
even
more
from
this,
but
it's
such
a
compact
and
visual
entity
and
clustering
development
that
that
potentially
could
meet
with
their
cluster
and
policy.
But
we
were
off
the
the
opinion
with
this
one:
it's
not
associated
with
any
cluster
and
therefore,
irrespective
of
the
distance
as
fields
that
criterion
and
with
regard
c2y2a.
D
J
Yep
thanks
chairman
and
you
know
I
haven't
been
out
in
sight
and
looked
it
in
the
ground
and
it
it
it
is.
It
is.
You
share.
You
know
a
bit
of
sympathy
with
the
applicant,
but
you
know
the
policy
is
something
obviously
we're
looking
at
sure.
You
know
going
forward
in
relation
to
clustering,
but
you
know
I
know
from
myself.
Personally
I
thought
the
the
clustering
argument
was
it
wasn't
strong
enough.
You
know
when
I
saw
it
on
the
ground
and
with
the
info
one
again,
as
I
say
I
I
take.
J
N
E
Considerable
distance
but
a
further
third
and
fairly
far
distance
from
from
the
site.
So
to
me
that
sort
of
clarified
that
you
know
that
that,
as
a
focal
point
didn't
make
sense,
so
you
know
that's
sort
of
where
I
am
and
I'm
sort
of
concurred
with
what
councilor
nicholson
has
said
already
and
that's
where
berlin.
D
Thank
you,
country,
savage
yeah,
sort
of
agree
when
we
sort
of
went
and
got
got
that
cyphers
and
really
were
able
to
take
everything,
and
it
was
really
hard
to
make
the
connection
between
the
you
know
the
proposed
supposed
focal
point
and
on
the
application
site,
don't
see
any
other
lights
up
at
this
stage,
so
we'll
move
into
members
decision
phase.
Is
there
any
proposals
from
the
floor.
D
D
D
A
Thank
you,
chair,
lao8
2019029,
it's
an
application
for
ballet
hagan
road
and
the
proposals
clustering.
It's
an
outline
plan,
an
application
with
six
permission
for
a
new
dwelling
and
a
garage.
The
recommendation
is
to
approve-
and
there
are
12
objections
from
six
different
addresses,
there's
no
relevant
planning
history
to
the
site
and
there
are
no
objections
from
the
main
planning
consultants.
A
A
In
this
case
officers
accepted
the
proposal
meets
the
full
requirements
of
the
clustering
policy.
There
is
a
clustered
development
off
the
ballyhagan
road,
which
consists
of
at
least
four
buildings,
of
which
three
are
dwellings.
The
cluster
is
a
visual
entity
and
it's
associated
with
a
focal
point.
A
community
center.
A
The
site
is
bounded
on
two
sides
by
development
in
the
cluster.
In
this
case,
the
proposal
could
be
absorbed
into
the
cluster
through
rounding
off
and
consolidation.
It
would
not
significantly
alter
the
existing
character
of
the
rural
area
and
will
not
visually
intrude
into
the
countryside
or
impact
residential
immunity.
A
The
proposal
could
integrate
into
the
site
and
but
not
an
officer's
opinion
impact
rural
character
in
terms
of
access
and
traffic
dfi
roads
and
their
response
state
that
they
have
no
objection
and
a
suitable
access
could
be
provided
in
terms
of
impact
on
residential
immunity,
as
this
is
an
application
for
outline
planning
permission.
All
matters
relating
to
design
and
layout
are
without
prejudice
reserved
for
future
consideration
in
terms
of
impact
on
the
belt
and
natural
herd,
sorry,
natural
environment,
a
preliminary
ecological
appraisal
has
been
submitted
and
there
are
no
objections
from
niea
without
prejudice.
A
Sorry,
I'm
without
prejudice,
sewage
disposal
under
ct
by
16
could
be
conditioned.
The
objections
in
regards
to
the
proposal
have
been
considered
with
infill
within
the
planning
report
and
the
addendum,
and
there
are
no
planning
grounds
to
refuse
this
proposal
and
I'll
go
through
the
planning
presentation.
A
Okay,
next
page
next
slide,
please
so
this
is
the
site
which
is
fairly
close
to
anarchy
just
off
the
redline
road.
Next
slide,
please.
This
is
an
aerial
view
of
the
site.
You
can
see
the
sites
currently
in
orchard,
but
there
are
a
number
of
properties
immediately.
Next
to
you
next
slide.
Please-
and
this
is
the
site
location
plan
next
slide,
please.
A
A
So
this
is
the
site
and
you
can
see
the
view.
This
is
actually
the
view
close
to
the
famous
grace
looking
towards
the
site
on
the
ballyhagan
road,
and
you
can
see
what
we
consider
to
be
a
cluster
of
development,
number
6a,
14
and
number
16,
and
then
there
are
outlying
buildings
next
slide.
Please-
and
this
is
actually
a
view
from
anaheim
towards
the
site.
You
can
just
make
out
the
hall
on
number
6
and
6a
next
slide,
please.
A
A
This
is
just
a
view
from
the
land
adjacent
towards
the
community
hall.
You
know
inside
the
site.
Thank
you
next
slide.
Please.
This
is
the
the
hall
immediately
adjacent
to
the
site.
Now
the
hall
hasn't
been
used
in
a
number
of
years,
but
it
is
an
existing
hall
and
could
be
used
at
any
time
without
the
requirement
of
planning
permission
next
slide,
please.
N
A
Front
of
the
hall,
then,
towards
the
hall,
which
is
number
14
and
number
16.
next
slide,
please.
This
is
the
view
towards
number
six
and
six,
a
just
in
front
of
the
site.
Next
slide.
Please,
and
this
is
the
view
then,
from
the
roadside.
You
can
see
where
my
arrows
are
pointing
in
the
we
map,
above
just
looking
towards
the
site,
next
slide.
Please,
and
that
completes
my
presentation.
Thank
you.
D
D
O
Okay,
thanks
I'd
like
to
begin
with
policy,
c2a2a
new
dwellings
and
existing
clusters
and
argue
that
criteria,
one
and
three
are
not
met
in
this
instance.
Criteria
won
the
cluster
of
development.
As
I
said
forum,
the
art
is
harvested
every
year
by
my
family
and
husband
for
generations,
not
an
agricultural
shed
or
part
of
an
apple
form,
page
8
of
the
officer's
report,
states,
orchards
or
working
forms.
O
So
therefore,
the
state
does
not
like
said
perform,
and
the
criteria
is
not
met,
criteria,
three
clusters
associated
with
a
focal
point,
such
as
a
community
building
and
states
that
number
14
is
community
hall.
This
is
not
the
case.
The
old
school
at
number
14
is
an
abandoned,
derelict
and
collaborative
building
with
the
only
activity
there
being
the
bats
that
come
in
and
out
of
it.
It
has
been
garlic
now
for
more
than
10
years
and
as
there's
not
been
any
funding
applied
for
it
or
it's
paid
out
since
2006.
O
It
can't
be
classified
as
a
community
building
and
a
union
criteria
is
not
met.
Also
is
the
applicant's
intention.
The
cell
number
14
is
said
to
be
built
on
which
would
remove
the
so-called
focal
point
of
nullify
and
the
idea
of
the
cluster.
The
officer's
report
states
that
they
believe
the
development
of
the
set
would
not
significantly
alter
the
existing
character
of
the
area.
This
is
one
of
the
oldest,
probably
orchards
in
aramara.
So,
of
course,
removing
it
to
build.
O
Houses
is
going
to
significantly
alter
that
the
browning
apple
name
is
protected
as
a
pediatric
arches
that
produce
them.
The
report
states
on
page
nine
there's
no
evidence
of
flooding
or
drainage
issues
if
there's
been
substantial
flooding
at
the
old
school
site
in
recent
years,
there's
photographic
evidence
to
prove
this.
The
proposed
set
from
onto
the
main
valley
hager
road.
This
is
worrying
as
we're
now
looking
at
starter,
ribbon
development
rather
than
a
cluster
under
policy,
cty-8
and
cty-14
planning
permission
will
be
refused
for
a
building
which
creates
or
adds
to
driven
development.
O
The
applicants
applied
for
a
certificate
of
lawfulness
for
the
shed
without
owner's
knowledge
or
consent
to
say
that
it
was
used
solely
for
apple
storage.
This
is
not
the
case,
as
there
is
also
heavy
machinery
and
foreign
equipment
stored
there.
The
report
states
officers
are
not
aware
of
any
complaints
related
to
the
community
hall
or
the
shed.
O
During
this
process,
applicants
have
subjected
my
family
to
harassment,
letters
individually
prepared
for
each
person
who
rejected
demanding
that
they
rescind
their
objection.
Evidence
of
these
have
been
provided
to
the
officer.
My
family
have
wished
to
pay
both
the
orchard
on
the
school
building
for
about
five
years
now,
to
add
to
the
harassing
letters.
O
A
verbal
threat
was
recently
issued
by
the
applicants
to
a
member
of
my
family,
saying
that
if
there
were
any
further
objections
to
the
application
or
if
planning
permission
is
not
granted,
then
the
applicants
would
never
sell
any
of
the
sites
on
the
relationship
and
go
to
waste
family.
I'd
like
to
thank
the
committee
for
their
time
and
any
device
match
actions
at
this
hearing.
D
Thank
you
jarliff
and
your
with
wells
and
their
time.
Members,
the
the
following
people
also
have
speaking
rights:
paul
mccrayner
from
ukrainian
co-architects
who's,
the
agent
and
also
paul
mccann
who's,
an
objector
and
they're
all
joining
us
verizon.
Also,
okay,
members,
we're
into
the
question
phase.
The
members
have
any
questions
on
this.
C
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
there
was
a
lot
there
in
that
representation
from
the
objector.
I
suppose
it
was
just
to
invade
a
few
comments
from
and
the
objector
opened
up
with
immediate
reference
to
the
policy
city,
a
city
way
to
a
points,
one
and
three.
I
believe
they
raised
point
three
especially
you
know.
I
would
like
to
hear
from
nicola
on
in
terms
of
the
focal
point
on
the
objector's
assertion
that
this
building
is
no
longer
a
focal
point.
C
It
is
a
basically
a
dilapidated
building,
I
think,
is
the
way
he
described
it
and-
and
I
I
have
looked
the
policy
there
and
I'm
just
not
clear,
you
know
what
what
what
is
it?
What
how
we
measure
that
or
when
does
the
building
cease
to
be
a
focal
point,
and
things
like
that
and
also
on
the
first
point
as
well,
just
if
she
could
make
a
few
comments
on
that
I'd
appreciate
it.
A
Thank
you
through
the
chair
just
to
respond
to
those
issues
I
mean
in
regards
to
cty2a.
The
first
point
that
the
cluster
of
development
lies
outside
of
a
farm
and
consists
of
four
more
buildings
is
what
it
says
within
the
policy
and
the
the
single
houses
that
are
there.
Do
I
mean
it's
the
cluster?
It's
not
the
site,
because
many
sites
that
we
would
look
at
are
within
a
farming
group.
A
But
in
this
case
it
would
be
considered
that
this
site
is
acceptable
that
the
cluster
itself
is
outside
of
a
farm.
In
regards
to
the
third
point
that
it's
associated
with
a
focal
point
and
a
community
building
and
look,
I
do
appreciate
that
the
hall
is
derelict.
It
hasn't
been
used
in
some
time,
but
you
can
see
from
my
photographs.
The
hall
is
in
fairly
good
condition.
A
It
could
be
refurbished
without
the
requirement
of
planning
permission
and
as
such,
we
have
to
consider
that
it's
a
valid
community
building
that
could
be
brought
into
use
at
any
time
and
on
that
basis
it
is,
does
warrant
consideration
and
there
are
other
issues
really
in
regards
to
the
removal
of
the
orchard.
But
I
mean
this
is
only
a
very
small
site
in
regards
to
the
potential
impact
on
the
overall
orchard,
and
I
have
no
details
the
site's
not
coming
up
in
in
any
of
the
flood
and
maps.
A
I
mean
there
were
a
number
of
issues
there
in
regards
to
the
relationship
between
the
applicant
and
the
objectors,
and
those
are
not
planning
concerns
so
they're,
not
something
that
we
can
consider
in
regards
to
the
ribbon
development
and
we've
we've
looked
at
that
in
regards
to
the
proposal,
but
it
meets
the
requirements
of
ctyta
in
terms
of
the
planning
policy.
I
hope
that
responds
to
to
all
of
the
issues
that
were
raised
there.
Thank
you.
C
Yes,
thank
you
and
mr
chairman
and
thank
you
nichola
and
nicola.
Is
there
any
planned
appeal
decisions
around
that
third
point
and
cty2a
in
relation
to
that
focal
point
in
relation
that
belden
and
I
take
what
you're
saying
and
they
could
be
brought
in
back
in
the
east
with
a
bit
of
investment,
and
but
you
know
just
to
keep
us
right.
You
know.
Is
there
any
previous?
C
You
know
cases
where
we
can
refer
to
and
also
you
did
raise
the
relationship
between
the
objector
and
the
the
applicant
and
the
objective
did
allude
to
ladders.
I
think
that
he
furnished
the
planning
department-
and
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
there,
but
we
don't
have
to
take
cognizance
of
that,
but
I
suppose,
maybe
even
from
a
legal
perspective,
is
that
something
have
we
ever
come
across.
Something
like
this
before
I.
C
D
C
D
D
Any
member
of
the
committee
who
has
spoken
as
a
supporter
or
objector
to
the
application
under
consideration
will
also
be
asked
to
leave
the
room.
The
advice
provided
will
relate
only
to
legal
matters
and
no
discussion
of
the
march
of
the
planning
application.
Neither
force
will
take
place
until
the
public
element
of
the
meeting
resumes
and
have
been
moved
back
into
the
meeting
or
taken
off
hold.
D
Any
legal
advice
provided
is
confidential
and
all
members
of
the
committee
who
remain
are
obliged
to
preserve
that
confidentiality.
An
official
will
re-admit
all
those
required
now
to
leave
the
room,
and
those
on
zoom
will
be
readmitted
to
the
meeting
once
the
provision
of
legal
advice
has
concluded.
Thank.
D
D
J
J
One
was
the
fact
that
it
was
an
orchard
and-
and
I
think
he
referred
to
that
it
was
part
of
a
farm,
and
I
would
like
him
to
expand
on
that
a
wee
bit
if
he
could
just
to
give
us
some
sort
of
idea,
because
I
read
the
report
novices
no
tpos
and
the
there's.
No,
you
know
application
required
sure
to
remove
orchards
or
or
apple
trees
or
pruning
them
or
whatever.
So
I
just.
D
O
Our
family
we've
rented
the
the
orchard
off
the
applicants
for
maybe
all
40
years
now
the
orchard
is
maintained
and
harvested
every
year
on
the
agricultural
shed
in
question
beside
the
the
site
orchard
is,
is
used,
you
know
at
harvest
time
for
the
orchard.
So
like
it's
a
working
orchard,
so
I
I
can't
see
how
isn't
determined
as
a
form
as
an
apple
form.
J
J
How
come
the
criteria
of
75
meters
doesn't
apply
to
this
application
when
it
has
applied
to
apply
to
others?
I
you
cannot
get
a
dwelling
close
within
75
meters
of
existing
agricultural
shed.
So
I'd
like
to
understand
that
a
little
bit
more
chair
as
well
and
then
and
a
obviously
nicola
used,
the
word
derelict,
which
I
I
think's
a
very
dangerous
word
to
use,
because
sometimes
they
may
look
from
the
outside
to
be
in
disrepair
I
haven't
painted
in
a
while,
but
inside
it
could
be
pristine.
J
You
you,
you
wouldn't
know
so
my
question
with
nicola
was:
was
she
inside
the
hall
just
to
see
what
it
was
like
inside
to
see?
You
know?
Is
it,
as
you
know,
ready
to
use
as
she
says
or
is
it?
Is
it
you
know
in
in
a
bad
state?
You
know
us
and
would
have
with
concerns
sure
that'll
give
a
few
questions
thanks.
Joe
thank.
D
A
Yes,
those
those
details
are
actually
within
the
report.
I'm
just
going
to
measure
it
out
here,
though,
the
the
site
is
around
sort
of
50,
just
around
50
meters,
from
from
the
large
agricultural
shed
and
I
have
have
visited
the
shed.
The
shed
is
used
for
storage
of
equipment
to
in
relation
to
the
adjacent
orchards.
There's
no
livestock,
then
there's
no.
A
A
I
do
appreciate
that
there
may
well
be
an
impact
from
time
to
time,
but
in
in
general
consideration
we
didn't
think
that
it
was
enough
to
sustain
a
reason
for
refusal,
given
the
use
of
the
shed
and
in
regard
to
the
building
of
the
hall
the
bit,
I
could
see
the
building
wasn't
being
used
and
it
doesn't
look
like
it's
been
used
for
some
time
and
that
has
been
confirmed
to
me.
No,
I
haven't
got
access
inside,
but
works
inside
a
building.
Don't
require
planning
permission.
A
So
the
building
still
has
a
roof.
It
still
has
four
walls,
it's
all
its
windows.
It
looks
in
fairly
good
structural
condition
and
on
that
basis,
internal
works
wouldn't
require
permission
from
us
anyway,
and
it
was
taken
forward
on
on
the
basis
that
it
did
meet
their
criteria
for
being
a
community
building.
J
You
know,
as
in
you
can't
build
it
well
within
75
meters
of
an
agriculture
building,
despite
the
use,
or
does
it
have
to
be
livestock
and
and
and
like
who
knows
in
the
future,
there
could
be
livestock
in
this
building.
Nobody
knows,
but
because
agriculture
is
a
very
sort
of
flexible
industry.
Let's
be
honest,
and
so
I
I
just
want
to
understand
that
it
is
a
75
meters
policy
for
agriculture
buildings,
no
matter
what
the
use
or
is
it
does,
it
depend
on
the
use.
D
A
It
depends
on
the
potential,
for
that
shared
in
particular,
actually
doesn't
have
any
planning
permission.
There
is
a
current
application
to
to
make
it
lawful.
It
doesn't
have
the
benefit
of
planning
permission
and
any
evidence
that
I've
seen
in
regards
to
that
shed.
It's
been
used
for
storage
purposes,
and
it's
and
it's
storage
in
relation
to
machinery
and
equipment
to
do
with
the
orchard.
D
Okay,
thank
you
or
any
further
queries
members.
I
would
sort
of
just
have
one
myself.
You
know,
I
think
maybe
mr
mccown
mentioned
sort
of
issue
around
flooding
on
site
and
that
there
were
sort
of
evidence,
sort
of
of
flooding,
but
that
might
be
flooding
sort
of
in
the
in
a
you
know,
report
since
that
was
an
issue,
so
was
that
community
hall
actually
damaged
by
flooding
in
terms
of
rain
water
flooding
or
was
it
sort
of
a
plum
initiate,
I'm
not
sure,
maybe
he'd
be
best
answered?
O
Yeah
well,
there
is
water,
the
street
outside
the
the
building
floods.
You
know
quite
a
lot
with
with
heavy
rain,
which
we
get
quite
often
also
the
roof
is
kind
of
in
a
state
of
disrepair.
There
are
tails
falling
off
it
on
water
does
get
in
through
the
through
the
roof.
It
has
damaged
the
floors.
It
goes
through
the
doors
right
here
inside
yeah
when
it
flows,
it
can
come
up,
you
know
and
get
in
under
the
doors.
D
And
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
mccann,
for
that
response.
So
just
based
off
that
response.
Nikola.
If
I
know
you
said
that
flooding
isn't
an
issue,
but
given
that
sort
of
the
the
objective
sort
of
outlined,
that
seems
to
be
a
continuous
issue
when
you've
been
looking
at
it.
You
still
review
that.
That's
that's
not
not
an
issue
I
mean.
Have
you
seen
any
of
the
potential
photographs
that
the
applicants
are
sort
of
outline
or
the
objectives
of
sort
of
outlined
in
terms
of
flooding
as
a
potential
concern.
A
The
site
doesn't
appear
on
any
of
the
flood
maps.
I
haven't
been
provided
with
any
photographic
or
detailed
evidence
in
regards
to
flooding
at
that
site.
The
hall
is
on
quite
a
flat
site
immediately
adjoining
the
road
and
the
site
itself.
Isn't,
though,
the
site
itself
is
a
slope
inside
immediately
adjacent
to
it,
and
any
drainage
issues
in
regards
to
the
site
would
have
to
be
dealt
with
under
under
separate
legislation
and
be
contained
within
the
site
itself.
D
J
Yeah
chairman,
thank
you,
yeah
look,
I
suppose
when
you
compare
this
one
to
the
last
one
in
relation
to
the
cluster
policy,
I
think
you
know
you
can
sort
of
see
what
the
cluster
policy
is
trying
to
do
and
and
they
you
know.
Obviously
most
of
the
issues
have
been
sort
of
well
and
truly
sort
of
discussed.
So
it's
it's.
N
J
Is
the
queer
my
head
is
sure
as
a
75
meter
thing,
so
isn't
it?
I
was
missing
one
for
me
tonight.
I
have
to
say,
because
I
thought
that
was
a
that
was
a
policy,
no
matter
what
the
use
but,
as
I
said,
it's
been
clarified
by
nicola
and
again
some
going
forward.
So
yeah,
that's
right,
I'm
sure
you
know
really.
D
Thank
you,
councillor
nicholson.
I
just
say
I'm
saying
that
paul
mcqueen
has
his
hand
up.
I
just
want
to
make
those
on
zoom
aware,
you're
only
able
to
speak
if
a
member
sort
of
asks
you
a
question
and
sort
of
no
members
asked
that
question
we're
now
in
the
debate
phase
so
country
mcnally,
were
you
looking
at
her.
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
german.
I
suppose
similar
to
councillor
nicholson.
The
75
meter
rule
has
told
me
a
wee
bit
and
also
the
I
do
accept
what
nicholas
says.
The
the
focal
point
was
a
sort
of
new
one
to
me.
I
thought
it
sort
of
had
to
be
an
act
of
building
per
se,
but
or
sort
of
I
obviously
got
that
wrong,
but
that's
that's
sort
of
where
my
head's
out
at
the
minute
and
thank
you.
F
Yeah
thanks
church,
just
in
relation
to
council
mcnally's
point
and
also
council
nicholson,
I
suppose
just
in
relation
to
the
community,
building
that
the
policy
itself
is
silent
on
whether
the
community
building
is
is
occupied
on
a
news
or
whether
it
isn't.
I
suppose
that's
the
point
I
would
like
to
make
on
that
now.
There
is,
then
this
issue
around
abandonment
and
so
on.
I
don't
think
that
argument
has
been
has
been
firmly
made
by
anyone
that
there
has
been
in
the
band
that
the
community
building
has
been
abandoned.
F
But
having
said
that,
I
suppose,
but
the
pac
decisions
are
around
this
particular
policy
ct
by
2a
say
that
even
if
an
application
doesn't
meet
all
the
criteria
and
if
it
needs
the
majority
of
them-
and
it
seemed
to
be
in
this
within
the
spur
of
the
policy
which
is
about
rounding
off
the
cluster,
then
they
tend
to
take
the
view.
That's
acceptable,
and
so
that's
the
point
of
woodnik
around
that.
F
Just
on
releasing
the
75
meter
point
as
well,
I
think
the
point
that
nichola
was
making
and
during
our
answers
their
chair
was
that
and
the
building.
That's
there,
the
agricultural
buildings
there
doesn't
have
permission
and
therefore
can't
be
treated
as
being
in
existence.
I
think
that's
the
point
that
would
make
care,
so
we
can't
take
that
into
account.
There
there's
an
ongoing
there's,
an
application
currently
in
the
system
about
that.
D
A
Yes,
there
is
a
certificate
of
lawfulness
in
for
the
building.
The
building
actually
has
been
in
position
over
over
five
years,
so
it
is
actually
the
building
as
a
building
is
immune
from
enforcement,
and
there
is
a
certificate
of
lawfulness
in
at
the
minute
which
we're
considering
in
regards
to
the
building
on
a
juice
which
hasn't
been
determined
yet,
but
the
building
has
been
considered
within
the
planning
report
and
because
it's
being
used
for
storage
purposes,
it
wasn't
considered
to
have
the
same
impact
given
the
distance.
A
It
is
from
the
properties,
it's
not
immediately
joining
it.
It
won't
be
attached
to.
You
know
it's
not
immediately
to
the
back
garden,
and
in
this
case
it's
set
away.
It's
it's
across
there's
a
small
laying
way.
So
it's
across
that.
So
on
that
basis,
we
were
content
that
there
would
be
potential
impact
now
in
a
game,
but
overall
there
wouldn't
be
an
ongoing
impact
in
terms
of
residential
amenity.
P
Thanks
chair,
yes,
just
reading
the
addendum
report,
you
know
I
did
have
an
issue
with
the
focal
point,
particularly
that
is
being
controlled
by
the
applicant
and
whether
it's
not
in
use
or
not
or
it
isn't
used.
The
obligation
is
controlling
can't
control
when
it
is
being
used.
So
that
was
an
issue
that
I
had
when
reading
the
report,
but
damian
has
confirmed
that
other
pa
psa
decisions
similar
to
this,
where,
as
the
focal
point
you
know
similar
to
it.
J
Yeah,
charles
thanks
for
letting
me
back
in
and
again
it's
something
damien
said
there
and
dealing
correctly.
I'm
wrong
agricultural
buildings
are
exempt
planning
commission
the
country
say
at
the
moment,
if
they're
below
seven
on
seven
was
it
seven
hundred
square
meters
or
seven?
Is
it
seven
thousand
square?
What
it's
something
like
that
you
know
so
just
explain
to
me
why?
Why
is
this
building
been
questioned?
J
J
N
F
F
I
think
what
nicola
was
saying
there
was
that
there
is
an
application
in
for
the
at
the
moment
which
is
being
considered,
which
is
first
certificate
of
lawful
development,
and
so
maybe
she
could
elaborate
a
bit
more
on
on
that
and
that
application
say
still
under
assessment.
It
hasn't
been
concluded
and
but
I
do
think
she
picked
up
from
what
nicholas
said
was
that
she
thinks
it
has
been
in
for
more
than
that.
F
I
don't
even
know
what
the
description
of
the
development
is
for
that
cloud
application,
but
it
may
be
that
it's
specific
enough
to
say
that
it's
an
agricultural
building
for
storage
use
and
maybe
not
for
use
by
livestock,
but
maybe
maybe
negligent,
can
clarify
that
because
I
think
that's
what
your
concern
is
concerning
this,
whether
that
building
could
be
used
by
livestock
and
maybe
yeah
so
look,
maybe
maybe
we
could
take.
We
could
get
some
detail
around
that
for
you.
If
that
helps.
A
Well,
just
to
confirm
the
the
cloud
application
is
actually,
as
you
noticed
from
the
the
drawing
number
two.
I
think
it
was
were
you
seeing
the
access
this
is.
There
are
two
applications
for
this
area.
There's
one
immediately
adjacent
to
the
hall,
there's
actually
one
further
back
and
the
site
further
back,
isn't
surrounded
on
two
sides
by
development
within
the
cluster
that
is
lawful
and
that's.
Why
there's
an
application
in
to
make
that
building
lawful
for
us
to
consider
that
under
the
current
policy?
A
But
it
is
lawful
because
it
has
been
over
five
years
and
we
have
been
trying
to
ascertain
in
terms
of
impact
on
immunity
for
this
proposal
and
the
site
adjacent.
What
exactly
is
going
on
in
terms
of
the
activities
within
this
site?
We
have
no
evidence
of
any
activities
in
regards
to
livestock
or
animals.
All
our
evidence
to
date
is
on
the
basis
that
it's
been
used
for
storage
in
association
with
the
adjacent
orchard
for
machinery
and
for
the
apples
on
on
that
basis.
That's
what
we've
taken
forward
and
that's.
D
D
Q
But,
as
nicholas
says,
the
building's
still
water
tank.
You
know
the
riffs
still
there,
the
windows
are
still
there
and,
as
I
understand
it,
the
parish
have
had
other
financial
commitments
and
not
least
their
new
parish
center,
so
and
and
currently
remedial
works
to
the
new
parish
center.
So
it's
not
the
case
at
all
that
it's
derelict
or
that
it
has
been
abandoned.
It's
it's
a
it's
a
community
center
that
is
not
in
use
at
the
minute,
because
the
toilet
facilities
are
inadequate.
D
D
J
D
D
D
Great
okay,
thank
you
and
I'd
just
like
to
thank
mr
mccann
and
mr
mccrayner
for
taking
part
in
the
application.
Verizon.
Thank
you,
okay
members.
So
we'll
go
on
to
the
next
application,
which
is
appendix
three.
This
was,
as
you
will
see,
remote
from
the
schedule
following
receipt
of
additional
objections
which
require
consideration
by
officers
on
environmental
health.
D
Appendix
4
was
also
removed
by
officers,
as
amended
plans
were
saved,
which
require
further
consideration
by
officers
on
for
statutory
consultations,
so
that
takes
us
on
the
application.
Five
la-08
slash,
2021-0237,
slash
chef,
so
I'm
having
over
to
trudy
to
take
us
through
the
powerpoint
presentation.
R
Thank
you
chair
this
application
and
six
full
permission
for
environmental
improvements
in
darkness.
The
application
is
before
you
this
evening,
as
the
application
has
been
submitted
by
the
council.
Can
I
first
draw
your
attention
to
an
additional
condition
which
has
been
embedded
and
that
rates
prior
to
commencement
of
the
development
hereby
approved.
A
maintenance
agreement
shall
be
submitted
to
and
agreed
in
writing
by
the
planning
department
of
the
council,
which
sets
out
how
the
development
will
be
maintained
thereafter,
and
the
reason
for
this
condition
is
to
ensure
that
development
is
maintained
in
perpetuity.
R
The
site
consists
of
a
piece
of
land
at
the
junction
of
darkly
road
and
upper
darkly
road.
The
proposal
takes
permission
to
construct
an
area
of
paving
with
two
benches
and
a
hedge
to
the
rear,
while
not
part
of
this
application.
Members
will
recall
that,
back
in
may
of
this
year,
the
committee
approved
a
historical
information
sign
which
will
feature
at
the
rear
of
this
site.
R
R
R
Next
one
please,
this
photograph's
taken
from
the
darkly
route,
looking
north
west
towards
the
upper
darkly
road
in
the
site,
is
that
a
rough
area
of
of
gravel
just
right
in
front
of
you
there
next
slide,
please!
This
is
taken
from
the
darkly
road.
Looking
west
game,
as
you
can
see,
the
site
encompasses
that
that
area
of
rough
gravel
area
next
slide,
please
this
is
taken
from
the
upper
darkly
road.
R
It
shows
that
from
this
aspect
that
it's
difficult
to
see
the
site
itself
on
the
next
slide,
please
this
is
a
close-up.
So
this
is
the
area
that
will
be
paved
over
next
slide.
Please-
and
this
is
our
proposed
layout,
which
shows
there
is
a
pavement
on
where
the
two
benches
will
go
on
the
hedge
to
the
rear.
Thank
you.
D
D
I
just
want
to
have
one
small
one,
myself
trudy,
and
it
sort
of
reminds
me
of
that.
I
think
a
similar
application
that
came
to
tam
de
gea
a
few
months
back
an
application.
I
noticed
that
there's
some
bounces,
but
there
isn't,
like
a
you,
know,
a
bike
stand
or
anything
just
to
know
that
active
travel
is
becoming.
You
know,
increasingly
an
agenda
in
terms
of
sustainability
and
things.
D
R
Thank
you
chair
this
one's
slightly
different
and
at
the
moment
the
the
land
will
be
owned
by
dfi.
Now
the
condition
that
we
read
out
is
to
say
that
there
should
be
a
maintenance
agreement,
and
my
understanding
is
that
the
maintenance
agreement
will
set
out
that
the
council,
once
this
is
completed,
will
maintain
the
land
that
means
that,
once
it's
actually
constructed
and
the
maintenance
agreement
comes
into
place,
the
council
could
at
that
point
then
invoke
its
permitted
development
rates
and
put
the
bike
stands
up
at
that
stage.
R
D
Don't
see
any
if
we're
content
members,
maybe
we'll
move
into
the
base
phase,
does
any
members
have
any
business
seems
like
a
fairly
reasonable
application
to
me
and
provided
you
know
that
at
that
later
stage,
maybe
you
know
that
that
consideration
is
given
to
the
cycle
infrastructure,
not
seeing
any
further
lights
on
members,
we
move
into
the
decision
phase.
Is
there
any
proposals
on
the
floor?
A
few
lights
on
kind
of
mcnally?
You
got
on
first
start.
J
D
D
J
D
D
S
Thank
you
chair.
This
application
takes
full
permission
for
environmental
improvements
and
worrying
starting
the
applications
before
you
this
evening,
as
the
application
has
been
submitted
by
the
council.
Can
I
firstly
draw
your
attention
to
an
additional
condition
which
has
been
omitted,
which
reads
prior
to
commencement
of
the
development
here
by
approved
and
maintenance
agreement
shall
be
submitted
to
and
agreed
and
written
by,
the
planning
department
of
the
council,
which
sets
out
how
the
development
will
be
maintained
thereafter
and
the
reason
is
to
ensure
the
development
is
maintained
in
perpetuity.
S
The
proposal
is
for
public
realm
and
open
space.
Improvement
works
to
include
new
lighting,
seating,
paving
bins
and
development
of
civic
space.
The
application
site
is
comprised
of
three
portions
of
land
at
the
junction
of
mill
street
and
main
street
burning
stone.
At
present.
Portion
of
the
site
to
the
north
of
the
junction
is
comprised
of
tarmac
footpath
and
a
grassed
area
with
flower
beds,
the
portion
of
the
site
opposite.
The
junction
is
comprised
of
a
tarmac
footpath
with
a
portion
of
tree
and
shrub
planting
and
further
trees
and
shrubs
to
the
south.
S
The
portion
of
the
site
to
the
south
of
the
junction
adjacent
to
the
mace
shop
is
comprised
of
a
footpath
with
a
small
grass
verge
with
an
existing
material,
lime
tree
and
shrub
planting.
The
portion
of
our
site
also
includes
a
portion
of
the
car
park
adjacent
to
the
mesh
shop,
which
is
enclosed
by
metal.
Fencing.
S
S
The
proposal
focuses
on
the
creation
of
a
civic
space
to
create
a
focus
for
the
town
and
will
utilize
an
area
of
the
existing
car
park
adjacent
to
this
shop.
The
new
paving
is
to
be
led
in
sandstone
slab,
paving
with
feature
sandstone
shapes
curbs,
are
to
be
silver
grey
granite,
with
buff
colored
granite
tactile,
paving
at
crossing
points.
There
are
six
lighting
columns
proposed
and
two
new
bins.
Eight
seating
benches
are
also
proposed.
S
S
Officers
consider
the
proposal
in
terms
of
scale,
design
and
use
of
materials
is
sensitive
to
the
character
of
the
surrounding
area
and
is
therefore
acceptable
on
the
days
two
of
the
planning
strategy,
and
on
that
basis
I
recommend
an
approval
subject
to
the
conditions
attached
and
I'll.
Just
take
you
through
the.
S
S
D
Thank
you
roshin
for
that
presentation.
Any
questions
from
members,
I
suppose
they'll
start
the
ball
rolling
off.
Nothing
similar
point
to
the
previous
application
in
darkly
in
terms
of
was
having
a
look
through
it
and
again,
there's
no
cycling
infrastructure.
This
is
something
that
could
be
again
considered.
You
know
under
permitted
development
rights
and
so
on,
particularly
given
that
you
know
there's
that
new
civic
space
that's
been
talked
about
and
saying
that
would
be
a
potential
nice
space.
D
S
Yes,
thank
you
chair,
yes,
you're
right
at
the
moment,
there
is
no
bicycle
stands
proposed
as
part
of
this
application.
However,
yes
and
potentially,
these
could
be
permitted
development
if
they
can't
submerge
the
view
that
these
should
be
included
in
the
proposal
at
a
later
stage,
and
even
if
they
didn't
fall
within
the
permit
development
rights
may
be
something
we
could
consider
as
a
non-material
change
to
the
application.
Should
it
be
approved
tonight.
K
D
S
I
don't
have
that
detail
as
part
of
this
application,
but
I'm
assuming
as
part
of
the
scope
on
work,
so
look
in
in
looking
at
this.
This
has
all
been
considered
and
I
was
assumed
that
a
lot
of
the
services
are
already
there,
but
yesterday
it
would
be
assumed
to
lift
it
at
a
later
stage.
But
I
don't
have
that
detail
as
part
of
this
application.
D
D
I
don't
see
any
further
lights
up
so
when
we've
been
about
to
beat
phase
and
this
member
supposed
similar
as
last
time,
mooney
minor
concern
was
about
the
you
know,
the
the
cycle
infrastructure
there
and
it's
sort
of
russian
pointed
out,
maybe
there's
a
couple
of
ways
that
they
can
be
taken
forward,
and
I
do
you
agree
with
country
duffy's
point.
It
seems
that
you
know
a
big
good
paving
there.
D
You
know
highlighting
wiring
times
history
in
the
wave
and
industry,
so
be
a
shame
that
if
it
did
come
along
in
a
couple
of
years
time
to
to
wrap
that
up,
I
suppose
that
would
be
any
other
elected
reps
in
the
area.
They
could
certainly
lobby
for
for
to
keep
their
lovely
paving
and
any
members
have
used
on
this.
D
D
Okay
for
a
proposal
from
alderman
bar
second
by
country
duffy,
to
accept
the
recommendations.
Is
there
any
other
proposals?
Don't
see
any
so
we're
all
great
members?
Okay!
Well,
that's
us
members,
so
I
understand
there's
some
football
game
tonight,
so
maybe
a
few
of
us
will
be
watching
so
I
hope
you
hope.
I
think
denmark
are
playing
a
little
bit
more.