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Armagh City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council Planning and Regulatory Services Committee on Wednesday the 1st of September 2021 at 3.00pm in the Council Chamber at Craigavon Civic and Conference Centre.
A
B
D
D
I
don't
have
any
lights
on.
Firstly,
I'd
just
like
to
thank
cancer
cosby
for
service
to
committee
and
welcome
the
new
councillor
thanks
for
welcome
wilson
onto
the
plan
county
you're
very
welcome.
This
is
the
best
committee
as
you'll,
soon
find
out
so
agenda
item
two
declarations
of
interest,
we'll
just
take
them
as
we
go
through
the
meeting
agenda
item
three
report
from
the
head
of
plan,
we'll
start
with
item
3.1
decision,
item
consultation
on
conservation
principles
and
come
over
to
helen
stopes
to
take
us
to
the
report.
E
Thank
you,
chair
and
good
afternoon
members,
the
department
for
communities,
historic
environment
division
has
published
a
consultation
document
conservation
principles,
guidance
for
the
sustainable
management
of
the
historic
environment
in
northern
ireland,
which
you
can
find
at
appendix
one.
The
document
is
the
first
part
of
a
two-part
publication
on
conservation
principles
for
the
sustainable
management
of
the
historic
environment.
E
E
The
guidance
sets
out
a
best
practice
conservation
framework
to
inform
all
aspects
of
decision-making
affecting
the
historic
environment.
The
six
conservation
principles
are
the
historic
environment
is
of
value
to
all.
Everyone
should
be
able
to
participate
in
sustaining
the
historic
environment.
Understanding
the
significance
of
herdage
assets
is
vital.
Herdage
assets
shall
be
managed
to
sustain
their
significance.
E
E
The
document
encourages
all
stakeholders
to
refer
to
the
conservation
principles
when
considering
changes
on
heritage
assets.
This
will
involve
having
a
clear
understanding
of
the
significance
of
the
heritage
asset
and
its
setting
in
terms
of
its
interest,
such
as
archaeological,
architectural
and
historic.
The
evidence
gathered
should
then
be
assessed
and
set
out
in
statement
of
significance.
E
D
Thank
you,
helen
and
you're
very
welcome
back
to
committee.
The
only
members
have
any
questions
or
queries
on
the
item.
Oldman
wilson,
yep.
F
F
In
such
cases,
interventions
are
being
carried
out
by
persons
with
appropriate
qualifications,
experience,
knowledge
and
skills,
and
largely
that's
that's
fine,
but
in
many
instances
where
homeowners
would
have
referred
to
this
previously,
where
nae
have
come
to
council
and
found
it
quite
inadequate
in
terms
of
their
responses
of
went
to
the
minister
have
found
their
response
is
equally
inadequate.
F
Costs
are
substantial
when
someone
wants
to
make
a
basic
improvement
to
their
home
around
perhaps
insulation
around
making
their
home
warmer,
making
their
home
greener,
which
now
is
a
massive,
am
talking
appointment,
a
massive
focus
for
government,
I'm
just
wondering
as
a
counselor,
we
put
many
pressure
on
historic
environment
division
in
terms
of
making
that
process
a
wee
bit
easier
and
a
wee
bit
more
reasonable.
I
don't
get
it
whereby
you
know
back
in
you
know.
F
100
years
ago,
people
used
the
materials
that
had
they
had
available
to
them
and
they
lived
according
to
that
now,
there's
so
much
more
material
available,
but
it's
not
necessarily
allowed
to
be
used
in
that
particular
setting.
Even
though
people
are
living
now
and
are
you
know
expecting
a
level
of
comfort
in
their
homes
as
per
the
technology
available,
but
yet
somebody
from
atd
can
say
actually
no
you're
not
allowed
to
use
that.
F
You
must
use
this
much
more
expensive
and
process
using
somebody
with
these
particular
skills,
which
are
much
more
expensive,
but
basically
it's
for
their
comfort
or
you
know,
laugh.
You
know.
All
these
things
to
me
seem
a
wee
bit
ridiculous
and
a
wee
bit
pedantic
when
you're
talking
about
somebody's
comfort
and
somebody's
well-being
in
a
home
that
they've,
maybe
inherited
or
they've
chosen
to
live
in.
So
I
think
there
is
a
job
of
work
to
be
done
in
terms
of
streamlining
and
not
taking
this.
F
You
know
holier
than
I
or
maybe
attitude
from
a
cd,
whereas
they
had
to
keep
the
terms
and
everybody
has
to
put
up
with
them,
and
I
find
it
really.
You
know
unacceptable
I've
had
conversations
with
people
here,
shell
men
down
there
inside
of
their
windows
every
morning
in
the
winter,
dealing
with
them
installing
expensive
ventilation
systems
when
there
are
cheaper
alternatives
available,
but
etd
just
simply
don't
permit
the
use
of
it.
F
And
if
you
bear
with
me
the
fact
that
they
won't
they
can
dictate,
they
won't
take
the
views
on
their
consideration
of
that
person's,
perhaps
financial
situation.
You
know
it's
all
pretty
much
a
very
broad
brush.
You
know
set
of
regulations
that
are
foisted
on
a
homeowner,
and
I
just
think
that
needs
to
be
adequately
addressed.
D
Thank
you,
alderman
watson,
though
it
certainly
was
an
issue.
That's
been
discussed
at
the
committee
before
I
don't
know
in
response
to
questioning
nine.
It
does
talk
about.
You
know
given
support
to
stakeholders
and
so
on,
but
helen
could
some
of
the
concerns
that
alderman
wilson
raised
and
about
that
you
know
financial.
You
know
concerns
and
all
additional
support
be
highlighted
further
in
council's
response.
E
Yes,
it's
very
very
valid
point
and
it
has
been
raised
on
numerous
occasions
before
so.
Yes,
we
can
emphasize
the
financial
implications
and
and
that
additional
support
should
be
offered,
and
we
can
include
that
in
the
response
back
to
each
day,.
D
D
I
just
have
one
in
terms
of
myself.
I'm
certainly
a
welcome
this.
You
know
report
from
the
hed,
but
I
just
wish
they
would
do
more
to
sort
of
enforce
their
own
guidance.
For
example,
I
could
quote
you
know
the
example
of
soy's
mill,
where
he
early
predecessor,
department
in
2009,
considered.
You
know
that
building
is
not
worth
saving
and
they
didn't
even
visit
the
site
in
order
to
come
to
that
determination.
D
So
I
would
sort
of
maybe
like
an
additional
line
as
well
in
terms
of
how
you
know,
hed
can
be
more
proactive
in
terms
of
when
they're
going
out
and
taking
things
into
consideration
that
they
do
do
additional
cybers.
So
on
make
sure
they
come
to
the
correct
outcome,
because
I
think
in
the
past
maybe
they
haven't
been
as
as
good
as
maybe
they
should
have,
but
hopefully
they'll
support,
marks
and
change
in
direction.
D
Okay,
thank
you
so
we're
moving
on
to
another
information
item
3.2,
which
is
implementation
for
strategic
plan
and
policy
and
development
on
the
countryside,
and
that's
related
to
your
planning,
advice,
notice
and
again
we're
staying
with
helen
who
talks
through
this
point.
E
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
the
department
for
infrastructure
wrote
to
the
council
on
the
2nd
of
august
to
inform
us
of
its
decision
to
bring
forward
a
planning
advice,
note
on
the
implementation
of
regional
planning
policy
for
development
in
the
countryside,
which
can
be
found
at
appendix
3..
The
purpose
of
the
advice
note
is
to
re-emphasize
fundamental
aspects
of
strategic
planning
policy
for
development
in
the
countryside,
as
contained
in
the
strategic
plan
and
policy
statement,
and
also
to
clarify
certain
policy
matters.
E
Dfi
advises
that
the
pan
does
not
add
to
or
change
existing
planning
policy.
However,
it
does
re-emphasize
fundamental
aspects
of
existing
strategic
planning
policy
on
development
in
the
countryside,
as
contained
in
the
asps,
and
clarifies
certain
extant
provisions
within
it.
The
policy
matters
that
are
clarified
include
integration
and
rural
character,
where
dfi
considers
that
all
forms
of
development
in
the
countryside
must
integrate
into
their
setting
and
ensure
that
there
is
no
adverse
impact
on
the
rural
character
of
the
area
in
relation
to
dwellings
on
farms.
E
The
advice
note
highlights
that
the
spps
makes
it
clear
that
a
proposed
dwelling
on
a
farm
must
be
visually
linked
or
cited
to
cluster,
with
an
established
group
of
buildings
on
the
farm
holding
regarding
infill
and
ribbon
development.
Dfi
advises
that
the
application
and
interpretation
of
infill
ribbon
development
policy
has
and
continues
to
be,
a
cause
of
debate,
particularly
in
respect
of
the
definition
of
a
building
and
what
constitutes
a
substantial
and
continuously
built
up
frontage.
E
It
clarifies
the
acceptance
of
a
non-substantial
ancillary
building,
such
as
a
domestic
guard
as
a
building
which
contributes
to
the
assessment
of
the
substantially
and
continuously
built
up.
Frontage
is
at
odds
with
the
original
policy
intent
given
their
limited
size
and
visual
impact
and
therefore
should
not
be
considered
suitable
in
any
reasonable
planning
assessment
of
a
proposal
for
an
infill
dwelling
in
relation
to
new
dwellings
in
existing
clusters.
E
The
advice
note
highlights
that
the
spps
requires
that
all
the
policy
criteria
for
new
dwellings
and
clusters
of
development
are
met.
That
is,
it
appears,
as
a
visual
entity
in
the
landscape
is
associated
with
a
focal
point
can
be
absorbed
into
the
existing
cluster
3.
Rounding
off
and
consolidation
and
will
not
significantly
alter
its
existing
character
or
visually
intrude
into
the
open
country.
E
Side
dfi
advises
that
the
plan
is
relevant
to
the
council
and
all
users
of
the
planning
system
involved
in
the
preparation
and
determination
of
planning,
applications
and
appeals,
and
also
in
the
preparation
of
local
development
plans,
and
it
takes
effect
from
the
2nd
of
august
members.
This
item
is
for
noting,
but
I
would
also
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
remind
you
of
the
workshop
on
development
in
the
countryside,
which
is
on
the
20th
of
september.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
helen
councillor,
savage.
G
Yeah
thank
you,
chair
and
thank
you
helen
for
taking
us
through
that.
The
pertinent
lane
in
that
is
dfa
advises
that
the
pond
does
not
add
to
or
change
existing
planning
policies,
and
it
just
clarifies
certain
extent,
provisions
of
it.
These
last
couple
weeks
have
had
calls
from
the
agents
and
applicants
who
have
applications
in
the
pipeline
and
they're
worried
about.
They
were
worried
that
this
was
a
change
in
common
policy,
but
it
appears
that
it's
just
clarifying
certain
aspects
of
plan
policy.
G
D
I'll
bring
maybe
damian
in
first
and
then
how
much
she
wants
to
add.
H
Yeah
thanks
sure,
and
thanks
counselor
larry
and
yeah.
Look
as
counselor
already
said.
You
know
this
is
it's
clarification
of
existing
policy
as
opposed
to
new
policy,
but
nevertheless,
I
suppose
there
are.
There
are
some
things
in
there,
particularly,
I
suppose,
in
relation,
for
example,
to
the
info
ribbon
development
and
where-
and
you
know,
we-
we
will
be
looking
very
closely
at
what
sits
within
the
substantial
and
continuously
built
up
frontage.
H
That
line
of
three
and
this
new
pan
makes
it
clear
that
we
can't
include
on
substantial
ancillary
buildings
such
as
domestic
garages,
so
that
is,
it
is
likely
that
this
this
could
impact
on
applications
that
are
currently
in
the
system.
Applications
that
may
have
been
submitted
on
the
basis
that
a
domestic
garage
could
form
a
line
of
one
of
the
line
of
three
and
therefore
that
will
certainly
impact
on
the
planning
assessment.
That's
undertaken.
H
It
is
very
much
suppose
a
case
of
planning
judgment
here
in
each
case
in
terms
of
what
is
what
constitutes
an
on
substantial
and
still
rebuilding,
but
certainly
the
policy
does
go
as
far
as
sam
as
naming
domestic
garages
and
small
light
buildings.
So
that's
the
sort
of
thing
we'll
have
to
look
for
when
we're
considering
applications
for
for
in-field
development.
So,
in
answer
to
your
question,
there
is
a
possibility
that
it
will
impact
them
applications
currently
in
the
system.
Yeah.
D
Thank
you
damian,
and
how
long
do
you
have
anything
further
to
add.
A
E
Just
just
you
know
re-emphasize,
you
know
for
those
applications,
you
know
that
are
within
the
system
and
you
know
was
highlighted
the
advice.
Note
you
know
tax
effect
from
the
second
of
august,
so
a
any
application.
You
know
that
hasn't
been
decided
in
those
areas
will
be
a
material
consideration.
G
Just
just
briefly
sure,
that's
just
more
apparent
than
anything.
I
think
we
can
expect
down
the
line,
some
average
agents
and
possibly
applicants.
You
know,
possibly
because
before
that's
the
thought
that
you
know
their
application
is
good
to
go
on
this
clarification,
it
mightn't
be
so
I
suspect
there
may
be
some
bad
publicity
coming
down
the
line.
Thank
you,
chair.
D
Thank
you,
country,
savage
ultimate
watson,.
F
Yeah
and
I
would
agree
with
councillor
salvage
in
that
point,
I
think,
as
a
councillor,
we've
all
been
the
state
meetings
where
we've
studied
infills
and
found
buildings
being
taken
into
account,
and
my
view
rightly
taken
into
account-
and
that
has
you
know,
made
the
the
committee
rule
in
favor
of
a
particular
applicant.
So
what
does
that
mean
going
forward?
F
How
you
know
we
have
to
look
at
it,
but
you
know
what
is
the
test
for
you
know
just
it's
ambiguous
as
usual
from
an
apartment
because
they're
talking
about
small,
what's
small
and
what's
big,
we
now
have
domestic
garages
that
are
huge
at
the
sides
of
houses.
Maybe
two,
you
know:
they're
a
story
and
a
half
or
three
story
with
games
rooms
above
them.
You
know
they're
significant
structures
in
themselves,
but
they're
domestic
garages.
So
I
mean
I
can
see
where
all
them
our
counselor
savage
is
coming
from.
F
We
could
be
a
busy
committee
going
forward
if
people
so
take
the
view
they
feel
that
they
haven't
been
treated
fairly
and
the
deliberation
around
their
particular
application.
And
then
what
do
we
do?
If
we've
been
out
on
a
site
visit
previously
and
approved
an
infill
based
on
a
building
to
say
being
a
domestic
guard?
Are
we
then
wrong
in
making
that
decision?
Because,
as
a
committee,
we
are
autonomous?
As
far
as
I
know,
we
have
the
ability
to
make
our
own
decision
in
that
viewswipe.
F
It
places
us
in
a
bit
of
a
quandary
going
forward
like
we
really
need
to
be
careful
about
this,
because
people
will
have
an
expectation
built
up.
They
may
have
dwelled
on
their
research
based
on
what
this
committee
has
did
previously,
and
I
think
we
do
need
to
be
careful
and
not
regard
the
other
issue
that
would
raise
us
in
terms
of
farm
dwells,
and
I
know,
plan
policy
suggests
it
should
be
cited
to
cluster
with
existing
buildings.
F
But
we
there's
many
situations
where
a
much
much
better
site
exists
within
a
reasonable
distance,
a
close
distance,
but
the
plan
on
policy
is
in
system
that
it
goes
up.
You
know
towards
a
group
of
buildings
on
a
farm
that
can
give
issues
with
mortgages,
can
give
issues
with
access,
and
I
can
really
hamstring
a
site
from
an
applicant's
perspective.
I
got
something
we
need
to
take
in
into
consideration
as
well
and
when
trying
to
marry
these
two
policies
together
and
but
that's
just
my
views
on.
D
Things,
thank
you.
Alderman,
wilson
country,
mcnally,.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
apologize
for
being
late
and
I
apologize
if
you
go
over
some
stuff
that
was
already
mentioned,
but
they
say
this
is
clarification
of
policy.
In
a
way,
we
disagree
that
it's
fundamentally
a
policy
change,
especially
in
regards
to
infills
and
cty
it
and
the
other
two
around
ct
way,
2a
and
even
the
farm
stuff,
and
I
don't
think
it
will
have
as
much
impact
on
our
applications,
but
definitely
the
the
involvement
and
and
against
the
cty2a.
I
I
would
have
said
that
you
know
our
planning
service
would
have
made
sure
and
that
the
all
of
those
points
were
hit
before
looking
at
granting
approval.
I
suppose
it's
one
of
the
hardest
policies
to
hit
in
pbs21
and
I
suppose,
if
there
was
any
sort
of
regular
room
that
might
have
been
around
the
integration
stuff
where
we
could
have
put
in
a
conditional
facts
to
plan
or
something
but
german,
I
suppose
what
I
wanted
to
ask
was
gavin
and
cancer
wilson
sort
of
touched
on
it.
I
I
It
is
ambiguous,
as
cancer
wilson
said,
there's
no
specifics,
you
know
how
can
we
attain?
How
can
we
take
in
that
kind
which
buildings
that
account
for
it
is
a
judgment,
but
we
we've
no
baseline,
we're
not
really
sure
what
size
we
can
go
with.
I
So
I
I'm
a
bit
dismayed
to
tell
the
truth,
mr
chairman,
and
I
think
that
we
should
be
recording
and
if
the
group's
in
agreement,
some
of
our
are
our
protests
to
the
minister
and
to
the
relevant
people,
because
I
think
it's
very
unfair
to
ask
us
to
make
judgments
and
applications
when
they're
not
being
pacific
enough.
D
Thank
you
country,
mcnally,
certainly
there's
a
lot
of
strong
points
being
made.
I
don't
know
if
you
heard
helen
mentioned
there's
to
be.
You
know,
plan
and
workshop
on
the
20th
of
september
to
consider
you
know
development
in
the
countryside,
so
we
don't
know
whether
an
option
can
be
to
gather
up.
D
You
know
response
from
members
queries
members
are
getting
particularly
about
this
and
any
other
development
in
the
countryside
and
perhaps
or
scan
a
response
could
be
developed
at
that
committee
and
or
even
in
terms
of
how
the
response
is
being
interpreted
with
maybe
examples
being
provided
of
things
that
have
been
maybe
a
committee
before
and
how
they
might
be
interpreted
differently,
because
I
know
the
point
about
the
guard
certainly
is
one.
I
know.
D
This
changes
that
so
I
think
this
may
be
one
that
we
could
have
a
good
discussion
on
that
workshop
and
provide
you
know
more
formal
response
in
particular,
how
that
you
know
can
be
communicated
to
the
likes
of
applicants
and
how
their
applications
will
be
judged
because,
as
mentioned,
if
this
has
been
in
fact
applied
already
you're,
almost
changing
the
vocational
goal
posts
if
I
throw
the
match,
but
if
a
number
of
lights
on
alderman
anderson
think
you're
in
next.
J
Thank
you
chairman.
Yes,
listen
to
these
points
it's
being
raised,
and
I
I
can
see
a
lot
of
problems
on
difficulties
coming
down.
The
line
like
we're
in
in
a
pandemic,
and
one
of
the
issues
with
this
committee
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
backlog
in
the
system
and
one
could
argue
the
point
of
changing
more
or
less
in
that
stream.
J
Here
changing
policy
or
changing
some
aspects
of
the
rule,
and
we
could
say
maybe,
if
things
weren't
the
way
they
are
today,
these
would
have
been
on
through
the
system
on
would
already
have
been
turned
down
or
approved.
We're
also
an
association
for
agents
and
applicants
have
put
in
and
it's
cost
a
it
costs
money.
J
To
bring
that
forward,
and
they
must
see
that
at
the
time,
whatever
policy
ever
looking
at
and
what
the
conditions
were,
the
criteria
that
the
application
would
be
successful.
But
if
we're
now
throwing
something
into
the
mix
say
second
of
august,
I
think
was
that
the
other
picked
up
there
and
we're
throwing
something
in
the
mix
here.
Others
grossly
unfair
to
the
applicant,
and
I
think
we,
as
a
planning
committee,
should
be
going
back
robustly,
saying
look.
This
should
not
be.
J
There
has
to
be
some
sort
of
lay
there
or
a
period
that
we
could
maybe
give
the
ones
in
the
system
some
time
to
to
get
it
sorted,
but
it's
totally
unacceptable
just
to
pick
a
date
from
somewhere
and
say:
look
there's
new
criteria
there.
Now,
sorry,
you
don't
pay,
you
don't
need
it.
So
your
application
is
turned
down.
Committee
has
to
go
with
a
policy
turned
down,
and
yet
a
lot
of
money
has
been
expanded
here,
two
agents
onto
the
applicant.
So
how
do
we
deal
with
that?
That's
one
thing
that
I
would
ask.
H
Yep
thanks
sure-
and
I
like
I
think,
I've
been
listening
curfew
there.
All
the
points
have
been
made,
and
I
agree
especially
there
with
oldham
anderson
in
relation
to
concerns
about
people
who
submit
applications
and
then
midway
through
the
process.
We
have
something
that
comes
out
that
sort
of
someone
said
they
removed
the
goal
posts
and
I
suppose,
if
this
was
a
new
policy
it
was
being
introduced,
it
probably
would
not
be
applied
right
respectively.
H
It
would
be,
you
know,
there'd
be
a
date
in
the
future
from
which
that
policy
would
take
effect,
but
the
way
that
they
fire
looking
at
this
is
that
it's
not
a
new
policy.
What
they're
saying
is
it's
clarification
of
existing
policy
and
that
they're
expecting
this
to
apply
a
certain
way
opiate.
I
think
that
still
is
unfair
and
you
know
to
people
who
submitted
an
application,
particularly
always
looking
at
the
info
policy
and
and
what
it
means
for
them.
So
I
I
fully
understand
the
concerns
that
members
are
raising
around
this.
H
You
know
we
can
include
those
concerns
in
in
the
comments
that
we
return
to.
We
can
certainly
you
know,
make
that
no
one
today,
f5
members
would
like
us
to
do
so.
So
you
know
happy
to
take
that
on
board.
L
Yeah,
thank
you
chairman
and
apologies
for
for
being
late,
but
as
you're
aware
we
are
pre-meeting.
I
did
bring
this
up
when
I
said
it
would
stimulate
some
fur
debate,
so
it
has
happened,
and
I
agree
with
what's
been
said
so
far,
and
and
I
understand
that
in
the
advice
note,
it
does
state
that
it
does
not
add
or
change
existing
policy
or
guidance,
and
that's
paragraph
eight.
L
L
We
should
write
to
the
minister
and
and
outline
the
fact-
and
I
do
understand-
there's
potentially
jr
coming
down
the
line
on
this
plan
and
by
some
folk
in
in
the
legal
profession,
because
they
believe
that
it
is
a
change
in
policy,
no
matter
what
the
ministers
all
say.
So
I
do
agree
with
what's
been
said
in
general,
and
I
do
think
you
know
as
a
planet
money.
We
should
write
to
the
minister
and,
as
all
even
pointed
out,
there
is
things
in
there
like
we're
in
this
committee
and
we've
been
in
it.
L
It's
already
been
pointed
out,
because
when
you,
when
you've
got
applications
close
to
farms,
your
environmental
issues,
you
have
issues
with
not
being
able
to
get
mortgages
because
of
access
and
there's
all
these
different
things
that
will
come
into
play
and-
and
I
believe
this
palm
advice
note
or
whatever
you
want
to
call,
it
is
going
to
be
a
stick
to
break
our
own
backs
with
in
in
in
council
going
forward.
L
So
look
I
I
would
totally
concur
with
what's
been
said
on
it,
but
I
do
think
we
should
rape,
the
minister
and
just
sort
of
outline
that
you
know
as
a
committee.
I
think
we're
all
of
of
the
opinion
that
you
know
we're
a
bit
dismayed
at
this
and
where
the
way
it's
come
and-
and
I
can
see
I
read
it-
cover
the
cover
and
and
to
me
it's
a
change
in
policy,
but
that's
my
opinion.
Thanks
chuck.
D
Thank
you,
council
nicholson.
I
think
there
is
maybe
sense
an
agreement,
maybe
in
terms
of
right
to
the
minister.
Whether
would
your
proposal
be
that
a
response
you
know
taking
the
kind
the
you
know.
The
statements
from
members
tonight
is
drafted
up
and
maybe
goes
to
discussion
at
the
workshop
so
that
maybe
it
could
be
approved
at
full
council.
Perhaps
if
that
could
be
because
the
workshop
would
be
before
full
council,
so
yeah,
okay,
and
is
there
a
seconder
for
council
mcnally?
D
M
Thank
you,
chair,
I'd,
be
quick.
I
was
just
wondering:
would
it
possibly
get
a
a
dirty
invite
into
that
20th
of
september
just
check
there,
because
I
know
tomorrow
I'll
probably
get
a
big
fave
messages
or
invites
to
different
places
as
lord
meyer
and
just
just
to
get
that
one
sorted
and
the
other
one?
How
many
applications
would
this
affect
that's
currently
in
the
system?
H
Yeah
through
the
chair,
yeah
alderman,
it's
difficult
to
say
I
don't
have
the
precise
number
and
we
are
aware
of
certain
applications
in
the
system
where
it
will
be
impacted,
particularly
the
ones
around,
in
full
development,
but
numbers-wise,
I'm
not
I'm
not
entirely
sure,
but
obviously
we
have
to
be.
You
know
very
careful
knowing
how
we
assess
those
applications
and
laid
off.
What's
not
in
this
document
and
but
numbers-wise
and
answer
your
question.
H
I
just
at
this
stage,
wouldn't
know,
but
it's
a
it's
a
case
of
as
we
work
through
those
applications
work
through
all
our
applications
in
the
countryside.
We'll
have
to
now
treat
this
as
a
material
consideration.
It
will
constitute
supplementary
planning
guidance
and
therefore
we'll
have
to
ensure
that
it's
taken
account
off,
but
look
that
just
to
be
clear
on
that
it
all
policy.
H
It's
not
like
legislation.
We
have
to
follow
by
the
word
of
the
law
with
that
with
planet
guidance
and
you'll
have
heard
this
from
legal
advisors.
Previously,
if
members
decide
that
there
are
sign
planning
reasons
for
setting
a
policy
aside,
then
you
can
do
that.
But
you
know
it's
going
to
be
very
much
clear,
so
case-by-case
basis
of
working
through
the
applications
and
making
planning
judgments
in
relation
to
each
of
those
applications.
D
Thank
you
damian.
You
content,
alderman
bar.
Thank
you.
I'm
sure
democratic
service
will
send
out
that
hold
an
email
to
all
members.
Some
members,
with
a
proposal
it's
been
seconded
on
the
floor
by
you,
know
getting
a
drafted
ladder
drawn
up
to
the
minister
on
this
issue
for
maybe
further
discussion
at
the
workshop
on
the
20th,
where
all
members
committed
and
put
their
own
comments
on
what
they
have
been
hearing
back.
H
Thank
you
sure,
good
afternoon
members
members
you'll
see
from
the
report
before
you.
Some
of
the
figures
are
on
current
case
loads
and
you'll.
Note
that
over
the
last
month
we
have
issued
145
planning
applications,
decisions
on
applications,
but
we've
the
same
time
received
another
high
number
161
have
come
in
over
the
same
period
of
time,
which
brings
our
current
live
care
slow
to
1569,
which
is
up
16
on
last
month.
H
Unfortunately,
and
now
that
increase
is
partly
attributable
to
obviously
the
increase
of
the
continued
high
numbers
coming
in,
but
also
the
fact
that
we're
in
a
holiday
period
and
you'll
also
note
members
that
we
have
received
three
call-in
requests
over
the
last
month,
bringing
the
total
to
11
for
year
to
date
and
a
couple
of
other
figures
for
you.
H
Members
just
of
interest
you'll,
see
from
the
report
that
over
the
the
five
months
in
the
current
business
year,
we've
so
far
received
760
applications,
which
is
200
more
than
what
we
received
over
the
same
period
last
year
and
actually
100
more
than
what
we
received
over
the
same
period
two
years
ago,
which
was
pre-covered
so
again
strong
indicator
of
how
the
application
numbers
are
have
risen
this
year,
and
indeed
last
year
we
have
decided
over
the
same
period,
530
applications
which
is
300
more
than
for
the
same
period
last
year
and
and
only
20
less
than
for
the
same
period
previous
year,
which
was
pre-covered
and
and
at
that
time,
obviously
we
had
a
full
staff
complement
and
fewer
applications
coming
in.
H
So
there's
not
much
between
what
we're
wishing
at
the
moment
it
won't
be
issued
two
years
ago,
but
the
circumstances
between
them-
and
I
are
completely
as
you'll
appreciate
different
and
you
know,
one
of
the
reasons
as
members
will
be
aware,
is
the
number
of
vacant
posts
and
and
a
number
of
staff
we
currently
have
of
due
to
sickness
absence
on
maternity
leave.
H
Two
update
members
on
that
and
I
can
tell
you
that
of
the
vacant
posts,
three
of
those
planning
vacant
planning
posts
have
been
filled
and
we
have
made
offers
on
the
two
remaining
vacant
planning
posts
and
there
are
two
vacant
admin
posts
which
we
are
working
with
human
resources
to
to
fill
those
and
then,
in
relation
to
sickness,
some
maternity.
There
are
four
staff
who
are
currently
off
due
to
long-term
sickness
maternity
absence
and
again
we're
working
with
human
resources
to
try
and
fill
those.
Please
be
assured.
H
We
are
working
extremely
hard
with
human
resources
to
get
bodies
in
because
we
need
bodies
in
post
and
until
we
get
them
where
you
know
it's
a
very
challenging
period
for
us,
but
those
bodies
aren't
it's
not
the
only
answer
to
the
situation.
We're
in
as
members
will
be
aware,
we're
also
looking
at
reviewing
our
own
working
practices
and
working
with
members
also
to
bring
forward
new
decision-making
processes
through
the
service
improvement
plan.
H
D
L
Yeah
damian,
I
suppose,
looking
at
the
figures
on
one
hand,
it's
good
news,
because
applications
aren't
dropping
massively.
It's
consistent.
So
from
an
economic
point
of
view,
that's
positive,
but
clearly
you
know
the
the
applications
going
out
every
month
are
not
you
know,
obviously,
balancing
with
the
ones
coming
in
so
you're
kind
of
fighting
what
you're
trying
to
push
water
up
hello
a
bit-
and
I
do
agree
with
you.
You
know
it's
been
talked
about
in
this
community
for
quite
a
while.
L
You
do
need
bodies
and-
and
I
know
how
difficult
it
is
at
the
moment-
throughout
every
element
of
trying
to
get
people
to
for
resources
for
employment,
because
it's
very
valid
right
across
the
logistics
sector
right
across
so
you're,
not
alone
in
that
so,
but
I
just
don't.
L
I
want
to
just
say
that
you
know
I
I
know
haven't
spoken
to
some
of
the
planet
staff,
how
hard
they
are
working
with,
be
it
over
time,
be
it
whatever
they're
trying
to
do
to
to
to
reduce
this,
and
I
want
to
sort
of
suppose
on
behalf
of
committee
and
myself
thanks
to
them
for
trying
to
do
that,
because
I
know
it
is
a
very
difficult
time
and
post
covert
and
and
obviously
what's
going
on
in
construction
at
at
this
moment
in
time.
L
So
look
and
all
I
can
say
is,
hopefully
you
get
those
people
in
the
post
very,
very,
very
quickly
and
hopefully
we'll
we'll
see
the
figures
get
better
over
the
next
months
and
I
will
say:
pre-covered.
L
Our
figures
were
very
good,
german
and-
and
I
think
you
know
we're
all
sort
of
looking
to
be
number
one.
I
think
at
one
stage,
but
you
know
we
suppose
we
already
are
and
all
you
can
do
if,
if
there's
people
not
available
because
I've
heard
of
other
people
putting
out
for
jobs
and
not
able
to
get
people
planned
for
them.
L
So
I
know
how
difficult
it
is
and
you
need
a
certain
level
of
staff
that
can
sort
of
hit
the
ground
running
and
things
so
you
know
totally
understand
what
you're
what
you're
going
through
and
and
as
I
say,
hopefully
as
time
goes
on
and
I
think,
as
a
committee
as
a
full
council
member,
we
have
to
be
able
to
try
to
explain
to
the
general
public.
L
You
know
that
the
pressures
you
guys
are
under
and
and
and
how
hard
you
are
working
and-
and
I
know
it's
for
frustrating
from
a
professional
point
of
view-
it's
very
for
student.
I
have
to
be
honest,
but
you
know
sometimes
you
have
to
step
back
and
and
realize
what
we've
come
out
of
and
and
where
we
are
so,
hopefully,
you
know
keep
up
the
the
work
and
over
the
next
month,
two
three
four
months
we'll
see
things
improved.
So
thanks
tim.
H
Yeah
thanks
sure
concerned.
I
don't
really
welcome
your
comments
and
thank
you
for
your
comments.
H
I
mean
I,
you
know
appreciate
the
understanding
that's
being
shown
here
and
there
is
a
problem
trying
to
find
the
right
staff,
the
right
people
we
do
want
people
who
can
come
in
and
hit
the
ground
running
and
not
just
take
people
for
the
sake
of
taking
them,
and
it's
difficult
or
you
know,
councils
across
the
the
whole
northern
aren't
competing
to
get
people
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
get
staff
who
can
come
in
and
make
a
difference
and
look.
H
I
just
wanted
to
pick
up
again
in
terms
of
you
know
the
contrast
between
where
we
are
now
and
where
we
were
pre-covered
and
pre-covered.
You
know
members
will
recall
how
we
were
consistently
hitting
our
targets,
and
you
know
if
you
go
back
to
the
year
before
covert,
we
had
two
out
of
the
three
and
the
one
that
we
missed,
which
was
majors.
H
We
were
significantly
better
than
the
average
figure
across
northern
ireland
significantly
better,
and
that
was
on
the
one
that
we
missed
and
prior
to
that,
we
had
the
year
before
we
met
all
three
targets
and
then
the
years
before
that
we
were
in
the
top
three
or
four
out
of
all
11
councils
against
the
three
targets
so
covet
has
impacted.
It
has
hit
us
hard
and
for
all
the
reasons
I've
mentioned,
you
know
we
were
closed
for
five
weeks.
H
The
beginning
of
last
year
we
didn't
get
the
it
equipment,
enabled
our
staff
to
work
remotely
until
the
end
of
quarter.
One
last
year
we
didn't
get
our
staff
fully
back
into
the
offices
until
the
beginning
of
quarter
two
and
then
on
top
of
that
the
case
loads
have
rocketed
and
we
had
record
numbers
last
year
and
our
staff
numbers
were
down.
H
Look
it's
a
combination
of
factors
that
has
impacted
on
us
and
we've
got
precedent,
members
understanding
of
why
we
are
where
we
are,
but
like
I've
outlined,
how
we're
trying
to
come
out
of
it
and
then
we
will
we'll
hopefully
be
able
to
find
our
way
out.
But
when
we
get
some
additional
bodies
and
post,
but
thanks
to
everybody
for
your
comment.
M
Yeah,
thank
you
turn
3u,
just
like
the
echo
the
comments
made
by
my
my
colleague
here,
I
was
just
wondering:
are
these
posts
of
these
tabori?
Are
these.
H
Full-Time
yeah,
through
the
chart
yeah
the
vegan
posts
at
the
moment,
are
and
they're
they're
they're
permanent
posts,
but
we
are
trying
to
bring
in
as
members
of
recall,
there
was
funding
agreed
for
five
additional
planning
posts
to
enable
us
to
bring
our
numbers
down
and
start
to
try
and
drive
our
numbers
back
down
again
and
that's
we're
working
through
the
recruitment
process.
At
the
moment
and
and
from
the
interviews
that
have
taken
place.
H
We
think
that
we
can
fill
a
couple
of
those
posts,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
able
at
this
to
fill
all
five
but
we're
working
with
human
resources
to
get
get
have
to
avoid
the
advertisement
again.
So
we
can
carry
out
further
interviews
and
fill
those
posts.
Unfortunately,
it's
just
you
know
one
of
the
fundaments
agreed
earlier
in
the
year.
We
thought
it
was
going
to
be
a
straightforward
process
and
forcing
just
hasn't
turned
out
that
way.
H
But
you
know
we
are
working
very
closely
with
them
to
try
and
ensure
that
we
can
bring
people
in
to
fill
the
posts
as
soon
as
possible.
N
Yes,
sir,
thanks
for
letting
me
in
on
apologies
for
being
late
and
yes,
damian
really.
I
appreciate
your
report
and
certainly
we
can
all
hear
the
pain
in
your
voice
in
terms
of
the
staff
and
issues
and
the
staff
and
scenarios
that
you
have
and
just
on
the
long-term
absence
stroke
set,
leaves
and
obviously
has
a
ver,
that's
a
very,
very
sensitive
issue,
and
so
on
so
forth.
But
are
you
able
to
give
us
any
time
scaling
I
mean?
Are
we
talking
the
end
of
the
year?
H
H
D
Thank
you.
Are
you
happy
to
propose
to
go
on
the
committee
attention
cloud.
D
D
Okay,
members
and
online
viewers,
in
accordance
with
scheduled
sex,
the
local
government
act.
We
will
now
be
moving
into
a
confidential
session
of
the
council.
This
means
that
we
will
be
turning
off
the
public
feed
of
the
meeting.
This
will
be
turned
on
when
the
meeting
is
restarted.
Can
ask
the
ict
officers
please
turn
off
the
live,
feed
and
confirm
with
me
when
confidential
section
of
this
meeting
can
proceed.
D
D
Okay,
we're
back
into
the
normal
debate
on
item
three
point
three
or
any
more
queries.
Alderman
anderson.
J
Right
can
they
can
they
not
be
moved
over
from
our
places
that
could
help
help
planning
out
at
this
time,
and
also
the
other
thing
I
would
ask,
is
for
clarification:
is
there
any
additional
hours
being
worked
in
planning
or
over
time
to
try
and
help
the
sort
of
get
those
backlogs
sorted
out?
Thank
you.
H
Yeah
through
the
chair:
yes,
what
does
knowledge
we've
explored
with
with
human
resources,
the
possibility
of
staff
being
redeployed
from
other
parts
of
the
council,
where
there's
maybe
surplus
admin
staff
who
can
come
and
help
us
and
in
fact,
being
successful
and
obtaining
one
additional
member
of
staff
as
a
result
of
that?
And
so
we
have
explored
it.
But
today,
but
certainly
it's
only
been
successful
in
getting
one
person,
but
if
anything
changes
elsewhere,
we
expect
that
people
will
be
passed
across
to
to
planning
and
then
sorry,
your
sec.
H
H
Our
staff,
who
are
engaging
in
over
time
have
worked
up
to
date
about
800
hours
of
overtime
and
and
we
have
cleared
a
region
of
200
applications
through
that
process,
and
so,
as
I
said
earlier,
we
are
trying
to
use
the
overtime
work
to
keep
the
numbers
of
applications
under
control
at
the
moment,
so
that
when
we
recruit
the
five
additional
planners
which
members
agree
to
budget
for
for
12
months,
when
we
do
recruit
them,
we
can
then
use
them
to
drive
the
numbers
down
and
just
start
to
make
some
inroads
and
to
bring
our
case
loads
down
to
more
manageable
levels,
which
will
obviously
enable
us
then
to
successfully
hopefully
start
to
to
meet
our
targets
again.
J
Content
and
just
to
to
say
again
to
thank
the
the
the
officers,
the
guts
for
a
number
of
hours
yet
under
ours,
to
try
and
keep
the
planning
application
at
a
level.
It
shows
you,
the
the
difficulty
we're
having
here,
that
we're
just
employing
that
additional
hours
and
we're
just
more
or
less
holding
our
own
we're
not
making
any
roads
here.
So
there
is
a
big
problem
here
on
going
forward
at
school.
J
I
have
to
be
just
kept
kept
on
board
at
such
time
should
be
to
get
additional
staff
because
I'd
imagine
the
staff
are
working
sort
of
flat
out
here
in
the
number
of
hours
to
work
on
the
sunny
so
much
you
can
ask
them
to
do,
and
I
sort
of
appreciate
them
for
for
doing
that,
they're
on
making
the
effort,
but
then,
let's
see
going
forward
month-to-month,
however
performing
thank
you.
D
H
H
For
you
know,
remote
working
is
working
as
efficiently
as
it
can
at
the
moment,
but
certainly
there's
no
proper
substitute
at
this
time
for
having
officers
in
the
in
place
at
their
desk
every
day
where
they
have
access
to
all
the
different
equipment
that
they
need
to
keep
things
moving
more
quickly.
That
does
impact
to
a
degree
on
on
our
efficiency,
but
certainly
we're
we're
operating
as
best
we
can,
under
the
current
circumstances,
yeah.
O
Thank
you
sure
on.
Yes,
I'd
like
to
concur
with
the
previous
speakers,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
damian
and
his
team
for
the
efforts
they
are
putting
in
look
as
someone
who's
worked
in
construction.
All
my
life.
This
is
the
worst
six
months,
maybe
12
months
I've
ever
experienced,
you
can't
get
feeds
man,
you
can't
hit
the
headlines,
you
can't
get
jobs
finished
so
every
single
day
with
the
admin
and
suppose.
Look
well
on
three
hail
this
last
year,
ten
months.
O
D
Thank
you
country,
macklin.
I
suppose
that
was
just
an
item
to
note
and
don't
see
any
further
lights
on
so
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
the
jedi
item,
4
report
from
the
head
of
building
control
and
item
4.1,
straight
name
report
for
drama
drive
and
tom
lavery
head
about
control
to
present
this
item,
tom.
P
Thank
you
chairman
good
afternoon,
members
and
4.1
is
an
application
for
the
naming
of
a
development
processing
of
40
buildings,
of
drummond
avenue
and
also
road
in
oregon,
and
members
should
note.
This
is
the
ps3
of
a
large
development
details
are
contained
within
the
panic
one,
but
it
may
be
useful
if
louise
shares
the
tank
plan
at
this
point
in
time.
P
P
D
D
Okay
on
the
floor,
is
there
a
second
or
for
lab
proposal?
Alderman
ultimate
trial
will
have
his
hands
up
first,
so
we'll
go
ultimate
weibo.
The
second
any
other
further
queries
on
this.
D
Well,
I
suppose
my
view
on
this
one
and
sort
of
mentioned
it
before
I
think
was
drum.
The
walk
came
before
us
and
I
was
a
bit
unhappy
at
the
time,
because
I
felt
that
it
was
sort
of
erosion
of
our
named
heritage
and
given
a
discussion
about
heritage,
we
had
previously
on
item
3.3.
I
think
the
protection
of
our
names
heritage
is
important
and
the
fact
that
drummer,
you
know
it's
a
it's.
D
The
anglicized
version
of
the
original
irish
of
what
was
a
red,
shove
or
hello
doesn't
really
make
any
sense,
because
you
know
it's
derived
from
the
original
drum
the
kelly.
You
know
kelly's
hill
are
kelly's
ridge,
so
I
think
it
is
pretty
important
that
we
aim
to
keep
our
named
heritage
in
place,
so
I
propose,
instead
of
drumming
the
drive
we
go
with
from
the
cali
drive.
D
D
Okay,
members
will
just
take
in
order
as
you're
on
the
sheet
and
one
thing.
I
asked
that
when
I
bring
you
in
give
it
maybe
a
second
or
two
until
you
come
up,
you
know.
Otherwise
you
know
people
on
the
on
the
same
can't
see
it
so
we'll
start
off.
So
this
is.
This
is
a
vote
in
terms
of
the
proposal
proposed
by
country,
mclennan
sacrament
by
ultimate
fibo
to
go
with
drum
the
drive
so
alderman
alderson?
Yes,
yes,
aldrin
barr.
Yes,.
Q
D
A
C
S
P
P
Soon
to
the
council
is
adopted
street
name
in
a
number
in
policy.
The
application
process
comprise
the
following
two
stages
stage:
one
is
an
application
of
your
language
street
signs
when
submitted
to
the
council
must
be
accompanied
by
a
signed
petition
in
order
to
be
accepted
by
the
council.
That's
valid.
P
The
names
on
the
same
petition
submitted
must
be
verified
by
the
council
using
the
electoral
register
following
verification.
A
stage
one
report
will
be
presented
to
this
committee.
The
stage
one
report
shall
inform
members
about
the
application
and
whether
or
not
the
application
is
valid
under
the
policy.
P
The
report
shall
be
for
noting
only
and
no
decision
will
be
required
for
members
if
the
names
on
the
petition
accord
with
the
electoral
register
and
the
required
threshold
under
the
policy
has
been
met.
Members
will
be
advised
that
the
ballot
application
has
been
received
under
the
application
campaign
progressed
to
stage
two
in
stage
two
following
presentation
of
stage
one
report,
the
committee
would
be
informed
that
a
ballot
application
has
been
received
and
council
will
allow
canvas
by
post
all
occupiers,
premises
on
the
relevant
street
and
seek
their
views
on
the
application.
P
The
stage
2
report
shall
outline
the
results
of
the
comet's
canvassing
exercise
and
if
the
required
threshold
has
been
met
at
least
two-thirds
of
the
occupiers
of
premises
on
the
relevant
street
are
in
agreement
with
the
erection
of
dual
language
street
signage.
The
report
should
include
a
recommendation
for
members.
P
At
that
stage,
members
will
be
required
to
make
a
decision
based
on
the
information
on
the
stage
2
report
as
to
whether
or
not
the
application
should
be
approved
or
refused.
If
the
application
is
approved
by
the
council,
notification
shall
be
sent
to
the
applicant
and
other
stakeholders
for
information.
P
The
applicant
will
also
be
notified
if
their
application
has
not
been
approved
for
this
application.
We
are
currently
at
stage
one
in
the
application
process,
as
mentioned,
and
this
application
was
received
by
council
in
july
2019,
and
it
was
accompanied
by
a
signing
petition.
P
As
per
the
policy.
The
petition
required
verification
against
that
to
register.
Unfortunately,
due
to
covert
registration,
I'm
sorry
restrictions.
The
council
was
not
permitted
by
the
letter
office
to
attend
their
offices
and
to
inspect
the
register
until
the
9th
of
august
2021.
P
D
Thank
you
tom
for
taking
us
through
that
and
suppose.
Just
the
report
will
come
this
one
stage
two
is
completed.
Our
atlanta
queries
are
happy
to
note
members
not
saying
any
lights
on
so
hop
in
a
note.
Okay,
so
next
agenda
item
six
corresponds.
There
is
none
item,
seven,
any
other
relevant
business
I
haven't
received
any
so
we're
just.
Oh
sorry,
oh
well,
I'm
watching
he's
trying
to
sneak
one
in.
I.
F
It's
just
it's
just
under
building
control,
just
a
very
small
issue,
but
but
big
for
for
people
that
are
suffacting
them.
F12
just
give
away
update
on
the
collapse,
building
and
tandra
gee,
because
I
know
traffic's
continuing
to
be
an
issue
with
the
lane
closure,
and
I
don't
know
where
were
sort
of
all
hopeful
that
it
wasn't
going
to
take
an
inordinate
amount
of
time
to
solve.
F
But
time
is
moving
on
and
what
appreciated
we
update
just
for
the
committee's
benefit,
as
well,
just
to
see
where
we
are
and
and
what
the
the
likely
timetable
is
at
the
moment.
D
Members
and
online
viewers,
in
accordance
with
schedule,
6
of
the
local
government
act.
We
will
now
be
moving
into
a
confidential
session
of
council.
This
means
that
we'll
be
turning
off
the
public
fade
of
the
meeting.
This
will
be
returned
when
the
meeting
is
restarted.
They
ask
ict
officers
to
please
turn
up
the
live,
feed
and
confirm
with
me
when
the
confidential
section
of
this
meeting
can
proceed.
D
D
D
As
a
result,
members
of
the
public
are
only
able
to
view
the
meeting
on
youtube
and
anyone
wishing
to
address
the
committee
has
been
invited
in
the
first
instance
as
an
attendee
zone,
audio
recording
is
being
used
to
assist
in
preparing
them
formal
minutes.
Therefore,
anyone
participating
in
the
meeting
consents
to
it
being
recorded
and
being
live
streamed
on
youtube.
D
L
D
J
Regarding
application
la
we
have
2020
this
year,
we
had
six
nine
f
I'll
declare
a
non-procurement
there's,
no
particular
one
as
I
do
attend
on
occasions
to
target
church
services
and
I've
received
representation.
On
behalf
of
that
application
and
I'll
be
absent
myself
from
the
debate
and
the
chamber
and
believing
that.
D
T
Thank
you,
chair
they're,
both
local
applications
and
have
been
present
to
this
committee.
Due
to
the
number
of
objections
received,
officers
have
taken
that
members
have
relayed
the
reports
in
full
and
such
this
will
be
a
synopsis.
Only
the
buildings
are
all
listed
and
have
identified
as
target
townscape
heritage
initiative.
Sites
western
essence
are
grant
funded
sites
to
restore
some
of
the
most
historic
buildings
within
the
city.
T
The
residential
use
proposed
fits
within
the
overall
equals
of
the
plan
and
with
regards
to
the
dharma
studied
townscape
heritage
plan,
it
seeks
to
ensure
that
any
future
development
will
preserve
or
enhance
the
city's
historic
environment.
Furthermore,
the
spps
encourages
higher
density,
housing
developments
and
city
centre
location
locations
as
it
benefits
from
high
accessibility,
public
transport
facilities.
T
Furthermore,
it
brings
people
into
our
city
centers.
As
such,
the
principle
of
apartments
is
acceptable.
The
buildings
was
formed.
Part
of
this
applications
are
currently
vacant
and
have
been
subject
to
some
bone
damage.
Pps
60,
it's
the
key
to
survival,
not
keeping
of
listed
buildings
is
to
keep
them
in
active
use.
The
proposal
seeks
to
change
the
use
of
the
buildings
from
office
space
to
living,
accommodation
which
would
seek
their
active
use,
would
seek
to
secure
their
active
use.
Alterations
are
required
internally
and
externally
to
accommodate
the
proposed
uses.
T
Traditional
features
of
the
buildings
are
respected
and
the
alterations
to
features
ensure
that
these
historic
features
are
reinstated.
Where
applicable,
and
the
detailing
matches
existing
details
on
the
buildings.
The
left,
shaft
staircase
to
the
rear
of
the
building
is
to
be
demolished.
These
were
later
add-ons
and
hed
has
raised
no
objection
in
relation
to
their
removal.
T
The
scheme
has
been
designed
for
those
who
wish
to
downsize
and
are
professional
single
couples
who
wish
to
avail
of
the
city
center
living
departments
will
all
have
one
car
parking
space
and
further
more,
they
will
all
have
their
own
stores.
With
cycle
stands
an
additional
22
cycles
down
to
the
rear
of
the
properties
it
is
supposed
to
use
the
existing
access
of
college
street
for
entrance
of
vehicles
only
and
russell
street
for
accident
exiting
and
the
two
additional
spaces
outside
the
car
parking
area
will
have
two-way
traffic
at
russell
street.
T
A
detailed
survey
of
existing
traffic
movements
using
tricks
and
junctionated
modeling
software
concluded
that,
even
if
all
the
19
apartment
vehicle
movements
were
used
in
college
street,
there's
two-way
traffic,
it
would
not
cause
queuing
onto
any
approach
branches
on
college
street.
Their
poses
not
to
direct
all
19
departments
towards
college
street,
but
modeling.
This
synopsis
provides
a
robust
summary
that
no
detrimental
impact
on
roads,
road
users
will
occur.
T
The
existing
offices
had
five
allocated
parking
spaces
and
those
spaces
accessed
via
russell
street.
However,
when
considering
the
intensification
of
use
of
the
car
parking
area
to
rear
the
extent
approval
for
warehousing
which
is
to
be
demolished
and
the
traffic
associated
with
that
proposal
conclude
that
net
increase
in
traffic
would
not
cause
any
unacceptable
impacts
on
highway
safety
and
the
access
rates
were
imposed
is
acceptable
officer
also
mainly
mindful
that
no
conditions
were
attached
to
that
warehouse
approval.
T
Restricting
the
number
of
vehicles
accident
or
entering
violent
college
street
officers
are
also
mindful
that
this
the
pose
in
kirkland's
car
parking
will
reduce
the
reliance
of
off-street
parking
in
the
surrounding
streets
and,
finally,
the
proposal
is
19
spaces,
a
reduction
of
the
parking
standards.
The
objections
to
the
proposal
all
raised
issues
regards
to
college
street
access.
T
It
shows
the
site
within
the
central
area
of
arma
slight.
Please
that's
an
aerial
view
of
the
proposed
site,
so
access
towards
russell
street
and
college
street
next
slide.
Please
that's
the
site
location
plan.
There
is
ingrained
detector,
right-of-way,
there's
two
rights
of
way
to
this
area
to
the
rear.
T
Next
slide,
please
that's
from
post-site
lake
park
and
so
to
erase
there.
You
can
see
the
college
street
access,
which
is
very
a
tunnel
into
the
parking
area,
the
samsung
new
car
parking
area
to
the
center
and
then
that'll
have
a
a
buyer
to
the
top
and
a
bar
to
the
bottom,
and
then
exit
will
be
via
russell
street
access
next
slide.
Please
that's!
The
opposed
gosford
police,
east
elevations,
that's
looking
from
the
mall
street
ahead!
So
that's
the
two
georgian
type
buildings
and
then
the
1970s
office,
building
to
the
east
next
slide.
T
T
That's
just
a
computer
generated
image
for
information.
Only
it's
supposed
to
give
you
a
context
of
what
it
looks
like
when
finished
asa,
skied
up
the
development
post
next
slide.
Please
and
that's
another
computer
general
damage,
and
they
say
it
for
information
purposes
only,
but
it
gives
you
a
better
understanding
of
the
context
in
relation
to
the
elevation
treatment
next
slide,
please
and
that's
the
existing
view
towards
one
or
two
gospel.
Please
you're,
probably
those
you
probably
will
be
familiar
with
it.
It's
opposite
the
male
and
the
building
tonight
currently
vacant
next
slide.
T
Please,
and
that's
just
a
few
looking
towards
russell
street
and
gosford
place.
As
you
can
see,
that's
the
the
russell's
straight
in
front
of
that's
a
one-way
traffic
system.
Next
slide,
please
and
that's
a
view
of
the
access
on
to
russell
street.
As
you
can
see,
you
come
out
that
access
there
is
like
gardens
to
the
left.
What
provides
some
visibility
before
approaching
onto
pedestrian
footpath,
in
addition
to
that,
that
is
a
one-way
system.
Only
next
slide.
Please
that's
a
view
from
inside
the
courtyard
of
the
rear
elevation
at
gosford
placer.
T
You
can
see
the
add-on
of
the
left
shaft
to
the
rear,
which
is
to
be
demolished
next
slide.
Please
and
that's
a
close-up
of
the
profile
mother,
clad
fire
escape,
so
that's
going
to
be
demolished,
and
that
was
later
added
on
so
here
td
and
officer
content
that
that
can
be
demolished
next
slide.
Please
and
that's
another
close-up
of
the
stair
left
of
inside
the
building
as
well.
So
that's
also
we
demolished.
T
T
D
Okay,
thank
you
sinead,
so
next
up
with
podrick
matthews
to
make
a
representation
and
objection
to
the
application
harvard
you're
very
welcome
to
the
committee.
A
clock
should
be
appearing
on
your
screen
with
three
minutes
on
it
and
as
soon
as
you
start
to
speak,
I
will
count
down
so
over
to
yourself
whenever
you're
ready.
R
And
I
don't
believe
that
the
planners
have
given
approval
that
the
fully
understand
application
imposing
the
one-way
assistant
on
the
users
of
the
abilities
and
I'm
wondering
how
they
expect
it
to
work
in
practice
and
are
the
existing
users
of
the
advertising
economy
of
access
to
the
usage
of
the
one-way
system
on
exit
russell
street.
If
not,
then
what
will
happen
is
when,
when
existing
users
go
to
exit
on
college
street
and
somebody
coming
in
the
one-way
assistant,
you
could
end
up
having
people
reverse
back
right
on
to
college
street
meeting
us
accident.
R
D
D
Next
up,
we
have
johnson
todd
from
ballymelon
architect
limited
to
make
a
representation
as
the
agent
and
support
of
the
application.
John
you're
very
welcome
and
you're
also
joining
this
fast
room,
and
you
should
see
that
three
minute
clock
so
just
hand
over
to
yourself
and
that
will
start
to
tick
down
whenever
you
begin
to
speak.
Q
Chairman
councillors,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
The
site
at
gosford
is
one
I
believe
the
council
are
well
familiar.
The
building
was
purchased
by
the
applicant
with
a
view
of
renew
rejuvenating
this
important
part
of
the
mall.
This
vacant
building
has
had
a
myriad
of
uses,
including
the
health
and
social
care
trust
building,
and,
I
believe,
is
an
interim
period
by
the
council
offices
itself.
Building
fell
vacant
in
2016
and
subsequently
put
on
the
open
market
and
purchased
by
the
applicant
in
2018.
Q
Various
feasibility
schemes
were
explored
by
the
applicant,
but
in
march
2020
my
practice
was
appointed
and
since
then
the
focus
has
been
on
residential
use.
Our
research
quickly
identified
an
1850
street
map
where
the
developer,
by
the
name
of
lean
mckinstry,
sought
to
develop
a
master
plan
linking
the
russell
street
with
the
terraces
along
the
boundary
next
to
the
mall
on
the
presbyterian
church.
Building,
this
dream
was
never
realized,
as
the
circumstances
meant
that
he
had
to
give
it
up
due
to
foreclosure
and
the
council.
Q
Members
now
have
before
it
some
170
years
later,
a
proposal
that
will
reinstate
the
master
plan
for
our
man
with
residential
living
spaces,
enjoying
that
beautiful
view
onto
the
mall.
Equally,
the
prospect
for
those
that
use
them
all
will
be
much
more
attractive.
Looking
back
towards
these
restored
buildings
rather
than
vacant
ones
with
boarding
science,
the
russell
street
properties
and
those
of
them
historically
had
a
ribbon
development
of
cart
houses
or
stables
in
the
lands
to
the
rear
of
each
of
their
properties
to
serve
the
occupants
with
their
transport
needs
of
the
day.
Q
The
current
class
before,
like
I
say
the
facility,
has
the
facility
to
combine
the
site
with
a
self-sufficient
block
of
land,
with
its
own
parking
akin
to
the
old
1800
master
plan.
There
was
originally
five
car
parking
spaces
to
service
this
15
000
square
foot
building
and
up
until
recent
times,
80
employees
used
that
building
and
served
their
car
parking
was
serviced
by
on
street
and
five
car
parking
spaces
in
cartilage.
Q
D
Thank
you,
jonathan
for
your
contribution
again
you'll
be
with
us
if
any
members
of
any
questions
would
like
to
direct
your
way.
Okay,
members,
so
over
to
yourselves
any
questions
relating
to
this
application.
Counselor
nicholson.
L
Yep,
thank
you
chair
thanks
to
this
to
the
speakers
for
their
their
presentations.
L
T
Yeah
and
just
phrase
of
reference
with
ruth
main,
putting
up
the
sight
layer
just
so
I
can
maybe
easier
to
explain
with
visuals
as
well
suppose,
just
to
confirm.
First
of
all,
yes,
I
I
have
been
out
myself
to
the
site,
just
to
suppose
alleviate
any
the
objector
is
concerned.
And
yes,
it's
a
good
question.
That's
something
we
have
thought
about
and
unwell
thought
out.
T
Basically,
the
existing
residents
and
users
of
college
street
access
those
users
access
will
not
change,
so
they
will
go
about
their
business
as
they
have
been
so
to
ensure
that
these
new
occupants
of
the
apartments
adhere
to
what
we
are
proposing
and
you
come
in
off
college
street
access,
as
you
can
see
there
and
to
your
right
and
then
yes
at
the
top
of
the
car
parking
area
proposed.
T
T
So
the
users
can
only
come
in
via
that
access
into
that
qr
park
and
then
leave
them
to
the
bottom
there's
another
buyer
which
is
for
access
only,
so
they
can't
leave
via
that
central
pen
so
to
speak
and
go
out
onto
college
street
that
can
only
come
in
as
regular
regards
to
users
coming
in
off
college
street
access
and
potential
existing
users
like
the
objector
coming
out
onto
that
access.
But
that
is
not
a
change
in
relation
to
what
has
and
is
happening.
T
Basically,
the
warehouse
development
had
vehicle
movements
coming
and
going
from
that
warehouse
unit
and
had
been
they're
coming
in
and
out.
This
will
only
have
vehicles
coming
out
so
when
vehicles
are
exiting
out
onto
that
tunnel,
so
to
speak,
they'll
have
to
wait
for
the
people
coming
off
the
college
street
access
to
let
them
pass
in
there.
T
That's
not
a
new
what's
happening
at
the
minute
is
the
existing
access
or
the
existing
users
of
college
student
access
are
doing
that
at
the
minute
they
have
to
allow
vehicles
and
live
vehicles
out
and
with
the
warehouse
development
that
is
happening,
and
indeed,
with
the
warehouse
development.
There
was
a
other
types
of
box
lorries
and
a.
T
L
Yeah
thanks
yeah,
so
basically
there's
a
buyer.
There's
two
buyers
which
basically
encloses
the
apartment's
car
parking
is
separate
to
the
communal
car
parking,
which
obviously
can
go
two
way
off
in
on
the
russell.
I
know
this
area
very
well
and
obviously
I
I
I
can
see
the
point
that's
being
made
and
I
can
see
what
you
know
has
been
attempted
here
to
do
to
try
and
make
it
work,
but
it
it
is.
L
It
is
a
tight
space,
as
you
can
see,
from
the
from
the
the
photographs
and
the
sight
loud,
so
so
basically
just
get
clear
in
my
head,
so
the
communal,
the
guys
that
start
the
minute
in
the
community
yard
that's
as
far
as
they
can
go
so
they
have
to
they
can
drive
into
the
community
or
they
have
to
turn
to
go
back
out
under
russell
street.
So
they
have
no
way
of
getting
on
to
college.
Just
for
clarification.
J
T
Just
see
him
for
the
rotten
street
access
is
way.
The
the
gentleman
here
tonight
he's
actually
college
street
access.
So
at
the
minute
he
comes
in
off
the
college
street
access
and
there's
communal
park
in
there
and
goes
out
off
the
college
street
access,
and
there
was
a
start
exploring.
T
Should
everyone
that
use
these
access
have
a
one-way
assessment
one
way
out,
but
practically
that's
over
50
properties
that
have
rates
of
way
over
this
land
and
the
the
occupants
of
russell
street
actually
like
coming
in
off
across
the
street
and
coming
out
of
college
a
russell
street,
so
they
wouldn't
be
in
favor
of
a
one-way
system
either.
T
If
so,
this
is
a
sort
of
a
balance
that
ensures
that
there's
enough
car
parking
for
their
proposal,
but
at
the
same
time
not
allowing
traffic
to
exit
on
the
college
street
but
showing
the
presentation
is
quite
a
dangerous
access.
I
don't
there
because
you're
going
straight
out
onto
a
pedestrian
footpath.
D
Okay,
are
there
any
other
lights
on
any
other
aquarius
members,
councillor
savage.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
chair.
Thanks
to
everybody
for
the
presentation,
I
thought
I
had
it
clear
in
my
head
and
yeah.
Unlike
kaiser
nicholson,
I'm
not
really
familiar
with
the
the
area.
Well,
let's
the
the
access,
the
other
of
our
college
trading
exit
via
russell
street.
Let's
just
be
limited
to
residents
the
barrier
on
the
pass
for
the
residents
only
or
will
it
be
any
additional
passes,
or
is
it
just
them
residents
and
does
that
have
any
impact?
I
think
your
literature
didn't
have
any
impact
on
existing
users
of
russell
on
college
straight?
D
T
Yeah
you're
right,
the
existing
qr
parking
spaces
will
be
accessible
key
holder
buyers
only
so
they'll
have
to
have
a
key
holder
for
those
buyers,
so
the
existing
properties
that
use
your
russell
street
access
for
businesses
they'll
not
be
able
to
get
into
this
car
parking
area.
This
is
solely
for
the
purpose
of
the
apartments.
In
addition
to
that
is,
the
residents
will
not
be
allowed
to
park
on
the
existing
community
parking
area
in
which
the
residents
are
the.
I
suppose
the
workers
of
college
street
views
the
present
time.
D
Thank
you
country.
Are
you
content
country,
councillor,
tolman,.
C
Thanks
chair
and
likewise-
and
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
area,
but
I
do
say
from
the
report
that
it
is
a
city
center
location
and
you
know
it
does.
Look
like
the
applicant-
has
one
in
sufficient
detail
with
the
one-way
system
and
and
with
the
parking.
You
know,
the
car
parking
restricted
to
one,
obviously,
the
one
per
apartment
and
that's
creating
that
modal
shift
to
to
rely
on
on
walking
and
cycling
on
public
transport,
but
in
relation
to
on
straight
parking-
and
it
is
detailed
within
the
report.
But
just
for
visual.
C
You
know
what
it's
not
detailed
within
the
presentation,
and
can
you
give
any
any?
Can
you
advise
me
where
the
on-street
car
parking
is
because
you
know,
I
am
aware
that
you
know
the
the
the
the
people
in
these
apartments
will
have
visitors
and
I'm
just
worried
where,
where
they
are
going
to
be
parked
at
the
end
of
the
day,.
T
Yeah,
a
detailed
analysis
for
this
application
due
to
the
shortfall
in
relation
to
parking
standards
has
been
done.
So
there
is
additional
there's
a
spur
capacity
of
over
96
of
spaces
in
the
surrounding
streets
at
russell
street
college
street.
But
in
addition
to
that,
the
scenes
break
your
parking
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
mall
as
well.
There's
sufficient
air
park
and
known
pen
display
so
there's
sufficient
parking
in
the
surrounding
streets.
T
In
addition
to
the
existing
offices,
when
they
were
up
and
running,
they
only
had
five
parking
spaces
allocated
in
this
city
central
occasion,
all
the
rest
of
the
occupiers
of
those
offices
had
to
go
and
find
the
off
street
car
parking
as
well.
So
we
failed
there's
a
balance
here,
one
per
a
one
per
apartment.
T
There
is
a
short
foil,
but
that
will
take
away
from
the
the
I
suppose
the
demand
for
on
streetcar
parking
foundations
that
there's
enough
for
one
per
apartment.
So
we
think
there's
a
nice
balanced
structure
in
relation
to
encouraging
more
sustainable
modes
of
traffic,
but
in
the
same
time
ensuring
that
there
won't
be
a
unacceptable
impact
on
the
street
and
car
parking
at
the
present
time.
C
T
Yes,
our
sales
analysis
of
consultation
of
the
efi
roads,
they've
appraised,
those
reports
and
they've,
looked
at
there's
been
detailed
analysis
done
of
all
the
spur
capacity
and
dave
there
was
on
the
street
counts,
etcetera
done
so
with
a
robust
analyst
done
up
on
streetcar
parking.
So
a
officer
is
in
in
consultation
with
the
dfi
roads
in
this
and
we're
content
that
it
won't
have
an
unacceptable
impact
on
streetcar
parking
for
businesses
in
the
australian
area.
Councillor.
D
Thank
you,
okay
country,
mcfarland,.
N
Yes,
sir,
thanks
for
letting
me
in
and
thank
you
to
sinead-
and
I
guess,
like
the
previous
two
speakers-
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
area
either,
but
in
terms
of
the
third-party
representations
on
the
list
of
of
five
or
six
points,
and
specifically
the
last
couple
in
terms
of
concerns
regarding
the
ownership
of
the
college
street
entrance
and
then
following
on
in
terms
of
who's
likely
to
be
responsible
for
the
maintenance
of
the
right
of
way
on
to
college
street.
Could
you
get
perhaps
enlarged
on
that
a
little
bit
please?
Thank
you,
sir.
T
Yeah,
I
suppose
the
applicant
has
acknowledged
that
there
are
right
of
ways
and
going
to
going
into
these
development
and
we
have
to
ensure
that
the
development
doesn't
impede
around
or
the
rise
impact
that
a
right
of
way
and
they've
shown
that
will
not
obstruct
or
take
away
that
right
away
as
regards
to
the
maintenance
it
gone
in
through
that
area.
You
know
it
doesn't
appear
to
be
maintained
in
any
considerable
way,
but
that
would
be
a
management
company
and
indeed
existing
existing
occupiers
and
users
of
that
right
away.
T
Maybe
we
should
have
to
come
together
and
collectively,
look
at
how
they
and
look
at
managing
those
particular
aspects
of
the
internet,
which
would
be
a
collective.
The
perspective
look
at
how
existing
residents
and
occupiers
of
that
right-of-way
are
maintaining
it
and
they'll
have
to
buy
into
that
too.
With
regard
to
the
cure
parking
area,
the
new
car
parking
areas
proposed
in
the
heart.
Stop
then,
around
these
apartment
plugs.
T
We
have
fantastic
condition
to
ensure
that
that
is
maintained
and
managed
properly,
and
the
users
of
the
or
the
occupiers
of
these
apartments
would
be
solely
responsible
for
ensuring
that's
maintained.
L
Yeah
thanks,
let
me
back
in
sure,
and
she
and
maybe
jonathan
can
help
and-
and
I
think
maybe
in
in
some
of
those
questions
in
relation
to
maintenance
and
surfacing
and
things
to
just
watch
proposed
as
part
of
the
proposal
too,
of
of
the
interior
of
the
the
courtyard
and
so
to
speak.
But
my
question
is
and
and
again
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
general
one
in
these
and
I
suppose
something
as
a
council.
As
a
committee,
we're
going
to
look
at
you've
got
18
apartments,
which
is
potentially
36
bins.
L
Now,
obviously,
those
bins
have
to
go
somewhere.
They'll
have
to
be
brought
to
the
front
straight
on
on
ben
day.
So
is
there
anything
within
the
the
the
plan
and
consideration
for
that,
because
we
as
a
counselor
are
encouraging
city
centre
11
and
which,
which
I
fully
support,
and
I've
been
an
advocate
for
since
becoming
a
councillor
and
before
it,
but
we
do
have
to
be
realistic
and
and
and
these
things
have
to
go
somewhere.
L
So
I'd
like
to
even
more
detail
than
that,
where
that
that
a
is
is
being
stored
while
and
I
suppose
ourselves
a
council,
we
have
to
look
at
it,
maybe
and
say
in
the
likes
of
a
development
like
this.
L
Maybe
it
doesn't
need
36
pins,
maybe
there's
a
way
of
doing
some
sort
of
communal
bin
for
a
number
of
people.
So
these
are
sort
of
things
that
I
I
think
you
know
have
to
be
considered
because
ever
approved
and
built
and
there's
36
pins
on
the
mall
or
on
russell
street
or
on
wherever.
L
I
know,
there's
going
to
be
issues
coming
from
from
from
residents
on
on
people
that
are
there.
So
it's
sort
of
something
that
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
tease
out.
If,
if
that
is
something
that
planning
considers,
because
it's
the
overall
idea
of
of
of
the
project
as
well
as
as
as
the
access,
so
thanks
sure.
D
Thank
you,
council
nicholson,
that's
actually
a
good
question,
so,
oh
actually,
where
the
bins
are
going
to
go.
T
Yeah
yeah
council
you're,
absolutely
right
and
yes,
it
is
a
planning
consideration
for
us
to
look
at
and
particularly,
as
you
say,
with
apartment
development.
In
the
number
as
regards
this
proposal,
they
have
shown
in
cartilage
recycling
and
normal
been
destroyed
places,
so
they've
actually
divided
that
up
into
what
would
be
resetting
what
would
be
normal
refuge?
T
We
have
asked
for
a
future
management
maintenance
plan,
but
the
architect
may
have
envisioned
how
they
are
going
normal
apartment
schemes
is
not
the
individual
bins
they're
about
there's,
actually,
the
bigger
bins
collectively
take
out
by
a
management
company,
but
maybe
jonathan
can,
I
suppose,
in
advance
not
but
for
the
purpose
of
our
plans.
We've
got
dedicated
storage
areas
for
the
refuge
and
dedicated
recycling
storage
areas
regards
these
apartments
that
has
all
been
looked
at
in
relation
to
communal
area
to
the
rear
and
easy
access
for
the
residents.
D
Yeah
john,
do
you
want
to
comment
on
those
points
about?
You
know
the
rubbish
collection
and
then
the
maybe
the
maintenance
of
the
courtyard?
Thank
you.
Q
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
question.
Actually,
at
the
time
of
submission,
all
of
that
was
submitted
to
the
department
as
a
robust
statement
as
part
of
our
management
strategy
plan.
So
a
management
company
is
to
be
set
up
subject
to
an
approval,
with
the
view
that
the
bins
would
be
collected
by
a
private
company
using
sort
of
bin
trolleys
that
will
be
able
to
navigate
clearly
a
delivery
bin
laurie
cannot
get
under
the
pens
and
the
alleyways.
Q
So
the
proposal
isn't
and
within
the
document
submitted
to
planning
department,
I
demonstrated
sort
of
euro
bin
trolleys
that
can
make
those
pushable
with
ease
by
the
management
company.
That
would
be
dealing
with
collection
of
bins
on
a
nominated
day
or
rotation
per
week,
and
they
would
be
brought
out
onto
the
street
only
on
the
days
of
collection
by
the
company
due
to
collected
by
within
the
lorry.
D
Yeah,
thank
you,
john
in
in
terms
of
the
maintenance
of
the
car
parking
area
and
so
on.
Does
that
be
up
kept
by
the
management
company
as
well?
Yes,.
Q
Again,
the
applicant
has
been
very
robust
in
that
commitment
to
making
sure
that
it's
in
their
interest
to
make
sure
that
this
courtyard
is
made
attractive
both
for
the
prospective
purchasers
and
ongoing
resales
of
those
apartments
if
there
is
a
sort
of
a
changing
of
hands
of
apartment
owners
or
users.
So
it's
very
much
in
the
applicant's
interest
that
the
management
company
deals
with
those
topics
and
they
want
to
be
a
good
neighbor
to
the
existing
businesses
and
residences
both
on
college
street
and
russell
state.
D
Thank
you,
jonathan.
Any
further
questions
or
queries
from
members
country,
tolman.
D
Thank
you
country,
tommen
yeah.
Do
you
have
any
comments
or
queries
in
terms
of
the
information
you've
heard
thus
far
in
the
debate.
R
Yeah,
I
would
have
thought
that
maybe
to
try
and
appease
my
concerns
that
in
the
one-way
system
would
have
been
open
to
everyone
and
I'm
kind
of
disappointed
that
that's
that
hasn't
been
left
that
way,
because
it
could
cause
us
as
she's
trying
to
get
in
or
out
or
even
if
clients
were
parking
to
the
rear
entering
or
leaving
on
college
street.
It
could
get
complicated.
D
D
Okay,
I'm
not
seeing
any
lights
on
just
remain.
Members
will
move
into
the
decision
phase
we're
dealing
with
two
applications,
so
we
need
a
proposal
on
a
second
for
each
application,
so
we'll
take
maybe
the
decision
on
the
full
application.
First
area,
2020
one
two,
nine
six,
slash
f
for
any
proposals
on
the
floor.
Counselor
nicholson.
L
Yeah,
given
the
debate
chairman
and
we've,
given
a
good
sort
of
investigation
throughout
that
thing
in
in
in
the
round,
I'm
happy
to
propose
his
recommendation.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
councillor
macron,
so
are
any
other
proposals
on
the
floor.
Don't
say
anyway.
It's
absolutely
all
agreed
on
the
proposal
for
lab
applications
fill
up
application.
Okay,
all
agreed
so
move
on
to
appendix
to
the
application
number
elliot
2020,
1,
2,
9,
4
lbc.
That's
the
building
control
associated
with
us,
counselor
nicholson,
abby.
L
D
D
D
I
mean
just
note
that
alderman
armstrong's
leaving
us
during
the
sub-
you
know
panic
so
so
panics
then
they
do
it.
U
U
The
site
is
also
also
within
a
local
landscape
policy
area
adjacent
to
saint
paul's
parish,
church
a
listed
building.
There
are
three
other
listed
buildings
in
close
proximity
to
the
site.
The
site
is
set
behind
a
mature
hedge
of
approximately
two
meters
in
height
along
the
roadside.
The
western
and
northern
boundaries
are
also
defined
by
hedging
and
semi-mature
trees.
U
U
The
design
and
layout
of
the
proposed
development
complies
with
the
policies
set
out
in
qd1
of
pps7,
and
while
the
proposed
development
is
in
close
proximity
to
four
listed
buildings,
officers
in
consultation
with
pgd
are
satisfied.
The
proposal
is
acceptable
and
complies
with
policy
vh11
of
pps6
subject
to
materials
and
landscaping
conditions,
dfi
roads.
U
In
total,
five
objections
to
the
proposal
have
been
received
and
all
of
the
issues
raised
have
been
considered
in
detail
in
the
report
as
set
out
officers.
Consider
the
proposal
complies
with
the
spps
ppsx
pps7
and
the
indented
pps7
and
recommend
the
application
be
approved,
subject
to
the
conditions
set
out
and
I'll.
Just
take
you
through
powerpoint.
U
U
U
And
this
is
just
another
photograph
taken
from
the
existing
access
point,
looking
up
to
the
corner
to
the
location
of
the
proposed
dwelling,
and
this
is
a
view
of
laurel
cottage
which
is
a
list
of
building,
and
you
can
see
the
barn
on
the
sports
hall,
which
is
adjacent
to
the
site.
In
the
background.
U
On
the
left
hand,
side
you
can
see
the
head
of
the
road,
that's
the
public
bar,
which
is
a
list
of
building
on
the
site.
The
application
site
is
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
road
behind
the
mature
hedge
and
again,
this
is
a
view
taken
in
the
opposite
direction
and
you
can
see
the
bar
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
the
application
site,
on
the
left
hand,
side
behind
the
mature
hedge
and
just
another
photograph
taken
inside
along
the
road
frontage.
U
This
is
the
site
layout
that
has
been
submitted
with
the
application,
and
you
can
see
the
location
of
the
proposed
dwelling,
and
this
is
a
floor
plan
of
the
proposed
dwelling
and
another
floor
plan,
and
these
are
the
elevations
that
have
been
submitted
with
the
application
you
can
see
on
the
top
on
the
sports
hall
on
the
left-hand
side.
So
that's
the
view
to
the
gladially
road,
and
that
concludes
the
presentation.
Thank
you,
chair.
D
Thank
you,
rasheen
members,
we're
joined
by
gemma,
jobling
who's
here
on
behalf
of
jpe
platinum,
to
make
a
representation
as
a
planning
consultant
and
object
objection
to
the
application,
gemma
you're,
very
welcome
to
committee.
A
clock
should
be
appearing
on
your
screen
with
three
minutes
and
that
will
begin
to
count
down
whenever
you
begin
to
speak
so
over
to
yourself.
V
Chair
members,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
our
concerns
to
the
committee.
Today
we
act
on
behalf
of
the
owners
of
the
head
of
the
road
barn
restaurant,
which
I'm
sure
many
of
you
be
aware,
is
located
directly
opposite
the
application
site,
as
rushing
has
already
mentioned.
This
is
a
great
b1
listed
building
dating
back
to
the
1700s
and
has
been
in
the
ownership
of
the
lawson
family
since
1930
as
such,
our
client
is
not
only
the
owner
but
they're.
V
Also
the
custodian
of
this
important
building
and
it's
incumbent
upon
them
to
ensure
that
they
all
go
on
viability
and
upkeep
if
this
historic
building
is
not
harmed
in
any
way.
Our
client
has
very
grave
concerns
about
the
proposed
development
in
terms
of
its
potential
effect
on
the
list
of
building
and
as
they
are
members
of
paul's
church
as
well.
V
From
patrons
entering
and
leaving
the
venue-
and
it
goes
on
to
recommend
that
the
layout
be
amended
to
remove
the
noise
sensitive
bedrooms
from
the
front
of
the
site.
However,
this
amendment
was
not
requested
and
instead
you're
presented
today
with
the
recommendation
to
improve
the
planner's
report,
does
indicate
that
there's
some
trees
to
provide
a
buffer.
However,
it
is
well
established
that
trees
do
not
provide
any
noise
mitigation,
and
this
cannot
simply
be
considered
as
a
means
to
control
noise.
Otherwise
it
will
set
a
very
dangerous
precedent
for
the
council.
V
Environmental
health
also
suggests
an
informative
to
advise
future
occupants
that
they
will
not
investigate
any
noise
or
order
complaints
from
the
bar.
However,
importantly,
this
is
caveated
by
saying
that
the
council
could
take
action
against
any
subsequent
intensification
of
the
business
and
it
unclear
what's
meant
by
intensification.
D
K
We've
listened
to
the
presentation
by
the
planning
officer
and
the
presentation
on
behalf
of
the
objector.
All
of
the
issues
that
have
been
raised
by
way
of
objection
have
been
fully
considered
by
the
planning
department
and
have
been
fully
assessed,
and
a
conclusion
has
been
reached
that
the
the
proposal
is
acceptable.
K
There
are
three
other
existing
houses
which
are
actually
closer
to
the
business
than
this
proposal
would
be.
The
your
environmental
health
officers
comments,
make
it
very
clear
that
they
have
no
objections
to
the
planning
application
as
presented.
They
simply
suggest
that
the
applicant
could
consider
the
internal
layout
of
the
bedrooms
that
that
may
give
rise
to
some
nuisance.
K
So,
while
there
are
concerns
that
have
been
presented
to
you
on
behalf
of
objectors,
what
I
would
suggest
is
that
none
of
those
concerns
are
are
real
or
substantial
when
one
considers
the
existing
situation.
The
long-standing
nature
of
this
business
and
its
long-standing
happy
neighbor
situation
with
existing
houses,
which
are
closer
than
the
proposal
will
be.
D
U
G
I
was
just
one
that
they
hear
just
from
the
horses
met
exactly
what
they
said,
because
it
seemed
to
be
a
difference
of
what
the
objector
on
the
applicant's
agent
we're
saying.
So
we
just
wanted
a
better
clarity,
russian,
but
there's
nobody
here.
Then
that's
there's
a
little
more
to
do
about
it
chair.
Thank
you.
U
U
They
do
talk
about
the
submitted
drawn
indicate
that
bedrooms
two
and
three
are
orientated
facing
the
public
house
and
therefore
advise
that
the
applicant
reconsider
the
layout
with
a
view
to
reconfiguring.
So
the
sensitive
room
such
as
bedrooms
are
positioned
to
the
rear.
However,
I
have,
and
then
they
won't
say
that,
should
council
grant
plan
permission,
they
advise
conditions.
Now
I
spoke
in
the
environmental
health
department
and
we
had
a
discussion
around
the
bedrooms,
but
it
was
a
suggestion.
It
wasn't
something
that
they
felt.
U
Could
that
was
necessary
and
this
is
the
proposal
that's
in
front
of
us.
We
have
to
assess
the
proposal.
That's
in
front
of
us.
They
were
not
suggesting
any
mitigating
measures,
such
as
an
acoustic
barrier
or
triple
glazing.
What
they
were
simply
saying
was
like
there
may
be,
maybe
some
issue
with
immunity
but,
as
you
know,
others
have
quite
rightly
stated.
There
are
three
other
properties
within
40
metres
of
the
pub
and
no
complaints
have
ever
been
raised
for
the
environmental
health
department
about
the
operations
of
the
business.
G
Thank
you
if
you
just
have
it
back
in
briefly.
I
do
think
that
the
the
objector
does
have
a
valid
point
in
in
relation
to
future
concerns
about
the
business,
because
they're
going
for
there's
nothing
to
stop
any
resident
in
that
house,
but
not
complete
in
the
future,
and
I
think
that
they
alluded
to
as
well.
G
You
know
if
the
business
was
to
expand
anything
like
that
in
the
future,
so
you
know
it's
something
that
maybe
needs
addressing,
probably
not
through
planning,
but
it
is
it's
a
very
volatile
concern
and
I
just
like
maybe
hearing
other
members
have
to
say
this
during
the
course
of
discussion.
Sure
thank
you.
D
Thank
you
count,
your
salvation
that
you
know
the
question
faced
another,
but
certainly
when
we're
getting
discussions,
members
would
want
to
use
their
views.
Councilor
nicholson,
you're
in
next
yeah.
L
Yeah,
thank
you.
Sharon,
thanks
to
the
presenters
and
and
like
conscious
savage,
has
said
you
know
and
and
disappointed
obama
has
maybe
not
here
at
this
meeting
because
we
do
bring
road
service
in
and
especially
when
it
is
such
a.
You
know
an
important
issue,
but
look
we
are.
We
are,
I
know
the
area
away.
L
I
don't
know
the
head
of
the
road
well
and
and
again,
as
as
gemma
said,
that
it's
been
a
really
a
success
story
as
as
a
sort
of
a
as
a
business
within
it
within
a
rural
area
and
I'd
hate
to
think
you
know
something
like
this
could,
potentially
you
know
stifle
and
there
there
are
opportunities
going
forward.
L
However,
I
haven't
haven't
heard
what
russian
has
said
about
the
environmental
health
sort
of
reply.
I
asked
myself
the
question
why
the
bother
saying
this
if
they
weren't
going
to
implement
it?
If
you
know
what
I
mean,
why
suggest
you
move
the
bedrooms
if
they're
not
if
it's
not
a
direction?
You
know
because
I
think
that
has
kind
of
muddied
the
water
a
wee
bit
today
in
in
in
the
discussion.
L
So
my
question
would
be
you
know,
like
I,
don't
understand
the
concerns
of
the
objector
and
and-
and
I
I
I
would-
I
would
like
to
sort
of
tease
out
a
bit
more
a
bit
like
what
country
savage
is
saying
is
how
can
we
protect
that?
Because
I
can
see
this,
you
know
potentially
going
forward.
I
know
this
is
a.
I
think
it's
a
dwelling
for
a
rectory,
isn't
it
yeah
so
like
it's
not
going
to
be,
you
know,
sold
to
the
general
market
or
anything
like
that
there.
L
So
I
think
that,
and
it's
in
it
is
in
its
favor
and
and
obviously
the
rector
is
a
local
minister
of
of
of
the
church,
which
you
know
well
and
as
I
say
it's
it's
it's,
it's
a
badly
need
replacement
of
of
the
old
record
and
a,
but
it's
just
to
sort
of,
I
suppose,
to
help
gemma
go
back
to
her
client
and
say:
look
you
know
this
this.
This
has
bought
an
effect
on
your
business
that
you
think
it
could
be
because
it
is
a
genuine
concern
because
we
do
promote
these
things.
L
It
is
a
listed
building
and
they
have
done
a
great
job
in
it
and
developed
developed
the
business
and
it
would
be
horrible
to
see
something
like
that
be
be
be
stifled
because
of
of
a
planning
approval
for
dwelling.
So
is
there
anything
russian
you're
gonna,
add
to
that
give
us
a
wee
bit
of
insurance.
U
U
This
proposed
property
is
40
meters
at
its
closest
point,
there
is
an
intervening
road
and
vegetation
which
helps
the
visual
impact
and
no
complaints
have
ever
been
received
with
regard
to
noise
or
odor
from
the
premises
I
mean
it
clearly
is
a
very
well
run
premises
and
you
know,
as
thomas
said,
there
is
a
good
neighbor
situation
there.
You
know
some
of
the
issues
that
were
raised
around
health
we're
about
to
park
in
and
where
people
congregate
and
the
car
park
in
relation
to
this
is
at
the
back
of
the
building.
U
So
it's
further
away
from
the
proposed
property.
There
is
the
building
intervening
so
where
people
would
congregate
and
talk
and
they'll
be
door
slamming
that's
actually
further
away
again,
so
I
mean
all
of
those
factors
considered
the
fact
that
environment
health
are
not
asking
for
any
mitigation
here.
Would
you
know
mean
that
there's
a
consideration
that
any
impacts
could
be
mitigated
by
by
those
factors
and,
as
I
say,
no
complaints
have
ever
been
received
about
the
operation
of
the
business
to
date,.
A
D
Not
seeing
any
lights
on,
I
would
just
have
one
short
query
myself
just
in
relation
to.
I
don't
know
whether
it's
one
for
gemma
in
terms
of
the
operational
bar.
Is
there
like
an
outside
area
for
where
people
would
you
know
drink,
and
is
that
sort
of
out
the
back
as
well
again,
I'm
not
too
familiar
with
the
story
either
yeah.
If
you
maybe
answer
that
one.
V
Yes,
chair
there,
there
isn't
that
the
militant
area
outside
of
it-
and
that's
really
comes
down
to
the
concerns
that
we
have
the
the
environmental
health
comments.
I
suppose
talks
about
they'll
only
protect
from
enforcement
from
any
complaints
on
the
existing
operation
of
the
business,
but
the
approval
of
this
property
could
prohibit
future
expansion
of
the
dwelling
to
provide
an
outdoor
space
and
particularly
in
light
of
the
covered
requirements.
U
Well,
sorry,
I
was
just
going
to
come
in
and
say,
like
I
understand,
you
know
perfectly
where
the
business
is
coming
in,
they
may
want
to
consider
you
know
extensions
or
outside
areas
at
some
point,
but
it
wouldn't
just
be
this
property
that
they
would
have
to
consider
before
they.
You
know
they
put
any
at
area.
There
are
other
properties
there
that
are
closer
and
obviously
the
impact
to
them
would
have
to
be
considered
as.
D
D
L
Yes,
sir,
obviously,
we've
we've
heard
both
from
gemma
and
from
tom
and
obviously
russian,
and
I
think
you
know,
do
you
have
sympathies
for
who
know
what
are
the
head
of
the
road
bar
and
things.
L
But
I
think
it's
been
well
sort
of
documented
in
the
approval
that
you
know
there
is
a
level
of
I
think,
protection
to
the
the
the
hair
they're
already
given
the
the
close
proximity
of
the
existing
dwellings,
and
I
think
that
further
mitigates
the
the
issues
that
have
been
outlined
by
by
gemma
so
and
taken
that
into
consideration.
G
Thank
you,
sir.
I'm
I'm
happy
to
second
counselor
nicholson's
proposal.
I
think
in
in
terms
of
going
forward
in
any
matter
to
rise
out
of
this
and
that
we
as
a
council
will
look
back
at
this
plan
committee
meeting
and
think
about
what
was
said
here
and
if
there's
any
issues
arise
in
the
future
with
them
on
that
basis.
So
I'm
happy
to
second
that
sure.
Thank
you.
D
D
Okay,
we're
all
agreed
just
like
to
thank
german,
today's
committee,
making
michelle
best
first
year
day.
If
someone
wants
to
get
all
the
money
from
backing,
don't
want
to
miss
out
on
applications.
D
Okay,
members
we're
going
to
jump
ahead
to
appendix
13
as
there's
a
request
for
speaking
rights
on
this
application.
So
we'll
have
the
person
wait
the
rest
of
the
evening,
so
appendix
13
is
application.
Number
load,
slash
2021.0618,
slash
dc,
so
I'm
going
to
hand
over
to
kevin
gillespie
plan
manager
to
present
this
report.
W
Thank
you
chair
good
evening
members,
an
application
for
the
erection
of
one
building
which
will
provide
two
retail
units
for
a
convenience
store,
which
is
unit
one
and
buggy.
The
good
story,
which
would
be
unit
two
under
application.
Lao
2018
1641
was
granted
approval
on
the
13th
of
august
2020.
W
among
the
planning
conditions
attached
was
condition
13,
which
relates
to
the
submission
of
a
final
simp.
This
was
required
once
a
contractor
was
appointed
to
reflect
and
detail
all
the
pollution,
prevention,
mitigation
and
avoidance
measures,
as
outlined
within
the
outline
construction,
environment
management
plan
or
the
osim,
and
all
additional
submitted
information.
W
W
The
sets
out
the
health
and
safety
requirements
for
all
staff
on
the
site
and
how
this
is
to
be
effectively
managed
and
enforced
on
the
site.
It
also
identifies
how
deliveries
will
be
received
and
also
set
aside
the
site
safely
and
how
contractors
to
the
site
are
to
be
briefed
on.
The
measures
contained
within
the
sim
sent
documents
submitted
also
sets
out
that
the
hours
of
construction
will
be
restricted
to
between
the
hours
of
7,
30
and
5
monday
to
friday.
W
Your
construction
will
take
place
on
saturday,
sunday,
bank
holiday,
our
bank
of
public
holidays,
a
culverted
river
runs
along
the
northern
boundary
of
the
site.
The
simp
identifies
that
a
silk
fence
is
to
be
erected
to
the
north
and
to
the
northeast
of
the
site,
which
will
act
as
a
sediment
control
device
to
protect
the
watercourse.
W
The
emissions
management
plan
sets
out
the
measures
to
be
implemented
in
the
case
of
spillage
and
staff,
training
measures
and
dust
smoke
and
any
other
airborne
pollutants
generated
through
all
work
activities
will
be
controlled
at
the
source.
So
far
is
reasonably
practical
and
using
recognized
methods
and
in
line
with
legislative
requirements
having
assessed
the
information
officers
in
consultation
with
shared
environmental
services
are
content
that
the
information
submitted
is
acceptable
to
discharge
condition,
13
of
application
lao8
2018-1641.
D
Thank
you
kevin
and
there's
no
powerpoint
presentation.
Members.
The
following
person
has
also
joined
us
on
zoom
for
speaking
rights
for
clarification
purposes,
not
see
my
lottery
and
you're
very
welcome
to
the
committee
here
today.
Any
questions
or
queries
on
this
one
member,
such
as
the
charge
discharge
of
a
condition
nope.
Otherwise
I
need
a
proposer
and
seconder
alderman
wilson
proposed
alderman
bar
seconded,
so
all
the
grade
members.
D
Okay,
we're
all
agreed
on
that
one
for
appendix
13
and
thank
you
emma
for
joining
us.
Okay
members
will
go
back
on
to
appendix
four,
which
is
application.
Number
failure,
2021
slash
zero,
one,
two:
zero
slash!
F,
this
note,
the
corresponding
appendix
five
has
been
removed
from
the
agenda,
so
we're
only
dealing
with
appendix
four.
So
I'm
going
to
hand
over
to
sinead
mcavoy
senior
planning
officer
to
present
the
reports
on
the
powerpoint
presentation.
T
Yeah,
thank
you
chair.
The
reason
this
application
is
for
the
planning
regularly
service
committee
is
because
it's
a
major
application.
It
involves
the
direction
of
a
retail
warehouse
extending
to
4258
square
meters
gross
external
area.
This
will
extend
the
existing
1
973
square
meters
associated
with
unit
1a,
which
will
form
part
of
a
new
build
operated
by
the
range.
T
A
sequential
assessment
was
required
and
undertaken
as
a
policy
advocates,
town
center
force
approach
for
future
retail
and
applications
no
sites
within
bambridge
town
center
or
any
times
within
the
catchment
were
identified
as
a
comedy
from
the
proposal.
The
site
is
located
outside
the
town
center
boundary
of
bomb
bridge
and
land
that
is
zoned
for
mixed
use.
The
key
site
requirements
of
this
zoning
excludes
class
a1
shops,
except
for
retail
warehousing
park
and
considering
the
breakdown
of
the
goods
the
goods
to
be
sold
in
the
rains
they
have
introduced.
T
Convenient
goods
and
a
range
of
non-bulky
comparison
goods
to
their
stores.
The
convenience
goods
amounts
to
just
over
five
percent
of
the
overall
floor
space
and
concern
their
increase
in
non-bulky
comparison
items
to
that,
as
previously
approved,
there
will
be
just
over
15
percent
of
the
overall
floor.
Space
as
sustains
are
a
predominantly
bulky
comparison.
Retailer
with
these
ancillary
offer
offerings
fitting
in
with
the
zoning
of
the
plan
for
retail
warehousing,
a
full
retail
impact
assessment,
considering
need
and
impact
of
the
whole
store,
including
those
ancillary
sales
agents,
has
been
undertaken.
T
This
has
concluded
that
the
convenience
impact
proposal
will
have
a
2.3
impact
on
bam,
bridge
town
centre
and,
as
you're
aware,
we
approved
a
marks
and
spencer's
applications
adjacent
at
the
bridgewater
park,
and
they
have
considered
the
curative
impact
of
this
proposal,
which
will
have
an
overall
impact
of
7.1
percent
on
bond
bridge
town
centre.
The
non-bulky
comparison
impact
will
be
less
than
the
fallback
position
of
four
percent.
T
T
Furthermore,
the
management
of
the
parking
areas
for
each
unit
within
the
overall
park
is
a
responsibility
for
each
individual
tenant
to
manage
and
enforce.
Accordingly,
dfi
roads
have
offered
no
objections
from
a
road
safety
aspect.
The
proposal
is
a
5
million
pound
investment
in
the
area
in
terms
in
terms
of
employment
numbers.
T
T
It's
just
the
location
of
the
site
in
the
general
areas
and
south
of
the
bomb
bridge
town
centre
for
those
who
are
of
the
of
where
the
bridgewater
park
is
next
slide.
Please
and
that's
the
rail
road,
the
post
site,
so
it
is
to
the
northwest
of
the
existing
tesco
development
within
the
bridge
water
park.
T
Next
slide,
please
that
just
shows
like
site
location
plan.
The
public
road
starts
to
the
south.
So
that's
why
the
red
line
actually
encompasses
all
that
internal,
a
red
line
of
the
existing
road
network.
Next
slide,
please
wholesale
site,
lyric
service
yard.
So
that's
faint,
a
gray
area
to
your
right
is
the
existing
tesco
development.
So
this
will
extend
the
existing
retail
unit
there
and
have
an
ex
ancillary
garden
center
as
well
to
the
left
next
slide,
please
so
that's
the
approved
site
load
and
service
yard.
T
T
This
overall
range
store
will
be
slightly
less
than
that
footprint,
but
it
will
also
include
an
ancillary
garden
center
next
slide,
please
the
whole
floor
plan
up
close
showing
to
the
car
park
into
the
rear
for
a
vehicle's
coming
in
at
night
to
service
the
development
next
slide.
Please!
So
that's
your
opposed
elevation.
So
it's
going
to
be
the
same
treatment
as
there
is
a
continuation
of
the
treatment.
That's
exactly
there
and
continuing
to
rub
and
round
the
corner
next
slide.
T
Please
there's
a
view
of
the
acceptance
system
front
page
into
the
site,
as
you
can
see,
so
the
existing
tesco
is
there
at
the
right
hand,
side
that
cannabis
building
there
to
your
left,
actually
is
an
existing
vacant
retail
unit
but
hasn't
been
occupied
by
anyone
at
the
present
time.
The
left-hand
side
allocation
of
that
will
be
taken
away
and
this
will
be
extended
to
make
one
large
rain
store
next
slide.
T
Please
that's
just
a
close-up
of
that,
so
you
can
see
with
a
tesco
extra
incentives
immediately
to
the
left,
as
that
is
the
existing
vacant
retail
unit,
which
will
be
extended,
which
ruthless
kindly
pointed
out
for
me.
There
next
slide,
please
it's
not
just
a
view
within
the
state
of
the
present
times,
there's
existing
hardcore
area
and
it's
enclosed
by.
I
suppose
it
to
keep
us
safely
a
close
board.
T
D
Thank
you,
sinead
country,
going
as
you
stepped
out
there
you're
not
able
to
take
part
in
any
consideration
of
this
application.
Okay,
members,
I've
had
the
presentation,
so
any
questions
or
queries
on
this
application.
N
Yes,
chair
and
thank
you
chanel
for
the
presentation
and
yeah.
I
suppose
my
question
or
query
is
maybe
asking
for
clarity
as
to
how
the
figure
was
was
arrived
at
on
that
figure
and-
and
I
think
from
memory
she
needed
said
that
there
was
there
was
an
impact
on
bomb
bridge
town
center
of
the
order
of
7.1,
I
think,
was
the
figure,
but
I
stand
corrected
just
interested
in
how
are
in
in
some
of
the
mechanism
in
terms
of
how
that
figure
is
arrived
at.
Thank
you,
chair.
T
Yeah
you're
upset
you're
right
where
area
figures
say
cancer.
Basically,
this
impact
and
this
development
in
isolation
on
convenience
stores,
convenience.
We
mean
food,
a
we'll,
have
a
2.3,
but
because
we've
approved
the
marks
and
spenters,
and
that
is
a
committed
development.
We
had
to
consider
that
as
well,
which
is
food
as
well
up
at
the
so.
The
combined
impact
that
on
the
town
center
is
seven
point
one
percent.
T
These
are
just
calculations
of
individual
stores
of
their
turnover
and
what
this
potential
would
take
away
from
the
turnover
and
then
that
was
calculated
down
to
the
percentage.
You
have
an
overall
percentage
for
every
every
store
and
then
the
average
was
taken.
So
the
average
in
this
for
this
store
is
2.3.
T
This
was
then
overall
impact
of
7.1
percent
on
bond
bridge
town
center
and
then
the
none
bulky
comparison
is
a
four
percent
bulky
comparison,
which
is
your
large
item
like
a
garden
center
or
not,
is
what
the
bridgewater
was
as
both
sowned
and
said
for
it's
not
gonna,
be
in
accordance
with
the
plan,
but
the
overall
store
did
look
at
those
and
celery
items
to
ancillary
uses
to
ensure
there'd
be
no
impact
on
those
particular
uses
within
existing
shops
for
the
town
center.
T
The
highest
would
be
iceland
because
there
is
that's
basically
what
our
food
is.
It's
it's
nice
land
produce
and
but
we
went
away
and
asked
to
ensure
that
the
iceland,
within
the
town
centre
bomb
bridge,
will
be
impacted
by
this
and
they've
come
back
to
say
that,
basically,
iceland
have
no
involvement
with
outlets
in
the
range
stores
other
than
supplying
the
goods.
T
This
benefits
them
and
giving
them
effect
another
outlet,
but
they
act
as
a
wholesaler
and
not
retailer
they
like
having
their
brand
on
the
range
stores,
but
of
no
financial
or
operational
involvement.
All
in
providing
the
goods
to
be
sold.
They
have
no
intention
of
closing
their
town
center
store.
They
would
not
permit
the
rains
to
apply
for
food
if
this
was
the
case
and
we'd,
and
basically
this
is
the
the
agent
getting
back
to
me.
T
D
L
Yep,
thank
you
chairman
thanks
genevieve
and
a
couple
of
questions
senior.
Obviously,
we've
got
an
existing
approval
on
this
site
of
of
a
similar
scale,
slightly
larger
than
what
this
is
so
there's,
obviously
a
precedent
set
for
this
scale
of
development
and
be
it
retail
or
be
it
whatever
and
in
relation
to
the
considerations.
L
You
know
that
when
you
have
time
center,
first
there's
always
a
study
of
the
town
center
to
see,
if
there's
an
alternative
location
for
something
this
scale,
can
you
just
clarify
if
that
was
done
and
if
that's
the
case,
what
was
the
the
the
sort
of
the
findings
of
that
and
just
for
clarification?
Where
is
which
part
of
the
buildings,
the
garden
centers
up
to
the
left?
Just
a
linear
strip
to
the
left.
T
Yeah,
I
suppose
just
that
the
first
one,
the
garden
center
is
the
linear
strip
till
they
have
to
be
an
external
garden
center,
the
one
at
what's
the
opposed
new
car
parking
area
to
the
site
as
regards
to
impact
our
sites
within
the
town
center.
Yes,
the
policy,
the
spps
requires
us
to
look
at
not
only
a
barn
bridge,
town
center,
but
any
other
town
center
within
the
catchment.
T
So
the
tip
of
this
actually
15
minute
drive
looked
into
more
as
well,
and
there
there's
no
set
there's
no
sites
within
bambrez
town
center
tomorrow.
That
would
accommodate
the
size
of
this
proposal
and
what's
required,
and
they
looked
at
over
20
states
and
there
are
development
opportunities
sites
shown
within
the
development
plan.
They
looked
at
all
those
and
how
the
cancer
they
went
into
detail
each
one
of
those
and
discounted
them
on
where
content
that
it
meets
the
policy
and
relations
be
yeah.
D
J
Thank
you
chair.
I'm
just
going
back
to
the
question
from
my
colleague
counselor
max
maximum,
so
you
need.
You
tell
us
that
the
time
santa
impact
would
be
7.1
in
total
for
marks
and
spencers
on
on
for
the
range
and
total.
What
what
is
the
cutoff
point
for
time
center
impact
assessment
of
what
level
would
that
kick
in
in
the
center
in
the
santa
barbara
cut-out
point
it
was
higher
in
that.
T
I
think
ultraman
is
a
very,
very
good
question
and
you're
asking
that
there's
nowhere
in
policy
that
depicts
that
you
know
a
certain
percentage
is
a
cutting
north
point.
Not
there
historically
would
look
at
10
percent.
You
know
anything
over
10
would
be
detrimental,
but
it
really
depends
on
the
health
of
the
town
center.
So
an
impact
of
7.1
percent
we're
contempt.
Given
the
health
of
bomb
bridge
town
center,
they
can
withstand
that,
but
other
times
within
the
bar
may
not
be
particularly
weak.
T
An
impact
of
even
2.3
percent
may
be
too
much
for
that.
So
you
look
at
basically
the
health
of
the
town
center,
how
many
stores
around
size
of
those
stores
the
range
of
those
stores,
and
then
it's
basically
comes
down
to
you,
know
the
health
and
performance
of
the
town
center,
and
there
are
a
number
of,
I
suppose,
studies
and
guidance
out
there,
which
helps
us
look
at
how
you
assess
that
potential
impact
and
we're
content.
T
The
bomb
bridge
is
a
healthy
town
center
and
that,
but
they
can't
withstand
this
diversion
it's
together
and
but,
as
you
say,
unfortunately,
there's
no
number
right.
There's
regards
to
say,
if
you're,
under
that,
you're
okay,
if
you're
over
that
you're,
okay,
you're,
not
okay,
historically
the
psc
and
other
ones,
would
probably
look
to
ten
percent,
but
now
we're
looking
at
the
individual
health
of
every
town,
center
and
they're
all
are
different.
Some
can
withstand
the
impact.
Some
won't
we're
content
painting
this
and
in
this
say
that
the
bridge
can
understand
this
impact.
D
Thank
you
kaiser
mcclellan,
so
we
all
agreed
okay.
So
we
are
that
proposal
approved.
Thank
you
sinead.
So
we
move
on
to
appendix
six
application
number
law
star:
zero,
four,
six,
five
slash
f
so
we'll
hand
over
to
treaty,
chapman
senior
planning
officer
to
present
the
report
on
powerpoint
presentation.
B
B
This
application
seeks
full
plan
permission
for
dwelling
and
garage
on
a
farm
and
is
before
you
this
evening,
as
the
applicants
are
related
to
a
member
of
the
planning
department,
the
site
is
located
approximately
six
and
a
half
kilometers
east
of
kerry
and
is
part
of
a
larger
agricultural
feed,
the
site
clusters
with
the
existing
farmyard
and
buildings,
which
are
immediately
to
the
east
of
the
site.
The
associated
farm
has
been
established
for
more
than
six
years
and
is
currently
active.
The
proposed
dwelling
is
to
be
a
one.
B
B
B
So
this
is
our
site
within
the
general
area.
We
are
very
close
to
to
the
border,
as
you
can
see
there
and
the
next
slide
place.
B
This
is
our
application
site,
so
the
buildings
immediately
to
your
east
are
the
farm
buildings
next
slide.
Please
and
that's
our
aerial
photograph.
The
arrow
indicates
where
the
site's
located
next
slide,
so
this
is
taken
in
the
farmyard
immediately
adjacent
to
the
site,
looking
into
the
site
next
slide,
and
that's
our
main
farm
building
that
you
can
see
from
the
road
you'll
see
in
there
photographs
and
there
are
other
buildings
in
behind
that
shed
next
slide.
Please,
and
that
shows
you
the
next
main
building
tucked
in
behind
it.
There
next
slide
please.
B
So
this
is
taken
along
the
front
edge.
You
can
just
see
that
the
larger
building
towards
the
right
of
the
picture.
Thank
you.
Earth
part
of
this
frontage
will
have
to
be
removed
to
get
a
safe
access,
but
I
think
it's
17
meters,
there's
37
meters
of
thought,
still
routines
next
slide,
please.
B
This
is
taken
from
immediately
opposite.
The
entrance
to
the
farm
yard
next
slide.
Please-
and
this
is
taken
from
month
in
the
farmyard,
looking
back
towards
the
site,
you'll
see
my
car
parked
to
the
left
and
that's
where
the
main
farm
house
is
next
slide,
please
these
are
the
proposed
elevations
and
floor
plans
and
next
slide.
That's
the
garage
and
the
last
one
should
be
our
purpose
layout,
and
that
should
be
me.
Thank
you.
D
D
Okay,
so
we
move
into
the
decision
phase,
so
any
proposals
on
the
floor,
counselor
nicholson,
yeah.
L
Thanks
chair,
I
hope
you
propose
thank
you.
D
Okay
proposal
on
the
prior
to
approve
the
planning,
commission
and
the
other
proposals
are
all
agreed.
All
are
great.
Okay,
thank
you
and
thank
you.
Trudy
we'll
see
you're
up
next
again
appendix
seven
application
number
l08,
2021-0698.
B
B
The
site
is
within
the
rmr
conservation
area
and
adjacent
to
a
number
of
listed
buildings.
However,
given
the
nature
and
purpose
of
the
proposed
sign,
it
is
considered
that
the
proposal
in
terms
of
scale,
design
and
use
materials
is
sensitive
to
the
character
of
surrounding
area
and
is
therefore
acceptable
under
days
too,
of
the
plan
and
strategy
transport
and
I
have
been
consulted
and
has
no
concerns
regarding
any
traffic
implications
subject
to
conditions
that
are
rightlined
in
the
report.
B
B
B
So
we're
right
in
the
heart
of
our
city
next
slide,
please
that's
our
application
site.
The
only
part
we're
really
interested
in
is
the
the
frontage
onto
upper
english
street
next
slide.
Please.
So
that's
an
aerial
photograph,
as
you
can
see,
that's
the
the
entrance
into
the
car
park
next
slide.
Please
that's
taken
from
upper
english
streets,
so
our
entrance
is
the
middle
structure.
Is
what
we're
interested
in
next
slide.
Please
that's
a
close-up
on
the
next
one.
B
L
Nicholson,
yeah
sure
the
only
question
I
went
through
the
conditions
and
just
a
question
but
like
because
of
its
location
truly
in
in
the
town
center.
Can
we
get
something
to
do
with
like
if
there's
no,
you
know
duct
work
or
anything
on
the
front
face
of
that
facade
that
it's
all
you
know,
sort
of
serviced
from
the
rear.
You
know
right
because
then
sometimes
in
these
cases
you
get
a
nice
piece
of
duct
work
going
across
stonework,
which
is
never
an
attractive
thing.
B
Pencil
nicholson,
there's
a
condition
number
two:
if
you'd
be
agreeable,
maybe
to
a
mandate,
hed
had
asked
for
it
and
it
refers
to
the
grill's
security
alarms,
light
and
security
and
other
cameras.
If
everybody
was
agreeable,
we
could
add
in
their
new
visible
ducting
and
that
would
save
us
have
to
bring
it
back
again
next
month.
If
everybody
agrees
to
that.
D
Thank
you
should
we
consider
that
maybe
in
decision
phase,
but
any
other
questions
you
create,
remember:
okay,
we'll
move
into
the
debate
stage,
no
still
no
light,
so
we'll
move
into
the
decision.
Phase
country
nicholson,
yeah,.
L
Sure,
again,
with
that
amendment,
to
that
condition,
I
am
happy
to
propose.
Thank
you.
D
Okay,
so
the
proposals
to
accept
the
recommendation
with
the
slight
amendment,
to
condition
to
your
bike.
You
know
no
visible
duct
tank,
so
that's
proposed
by
country,
nixon,
catch,
mcalley
and
second
up,
mr
chairman,
second
by
country,
mcnally.
So
all
the
great
members,
okay,
we're
all
agreed
on
that
one.
D
So
next
dante
appendix
is
it
the
12.
remember
since
they
all
relate
to.
I
think
broadband
connections
with
council
buildings
they're
all
going
to
be
presented
as
a
group,
although
we'll
need
proposals
and
secondary
speech
individually,
so
we'll
relate
to
the
application
number
they'll
all
begin:
la08
2021
and
0922
lbc
0764,
lbc,
0806,
lbc07,
lbc,
0921,
lbc
and
over
again
to
trading
to
take
us
through
these
five.
B
Thank
you,
chair
members,
as
charge
pointed
out
with
five
applications
before
you.
They'll
also
list
a
building
consent
to
provide
fiber
broadband
cable
to
list
of
buildings,
namely
logan
town
hall,
the
county
museum
on
our
map,
quarter,
downtown
hall,
shambles
market
and
the
old
town
hall
in
bambridge.
Their
applications
are
before
you
this
evening,
as
they've
been
made
on
behalf
of
the
council.
B
B
The
applications
for
logan
town
hall,
the
county
museum
and
the
shambles
market
proposed
to
execute
0.4
meters
below
ground
level
and
to
remove
a
30
millimeter
core
from
the
building
border
downtown
hall
also
proposes
stacks
could
be
at
0.4
meters
below
ground,
but
in
this
case
the
core
will
only
be
10
millimeters
through
the
existing
mortar.
While
the
proposal
for
old
town
holland
band
bridge
proposes
to
execute
only
9.2
meters
below
ground
and
again,
the
quarter
quarter
be
removed.
B
It
is
considered
in
each
case
that
the
proposal
will
not
alter
the
physical
appearance
of
the
listed
structure.
Officers
have
consulted
with
the
hed
on
all
applications
on
our
agreement
that
the
proposals
comply
with
the
spps
and
pps6
and
will
not
have
an
adverse
impact
on
the
list
of
buildings.
As
detailed
in
each
of
these
reports,
the
hcd
has
suggested
conditions
specific
to
the
building
in
question,
and
these
have
been
included
in
the
reports
circulated.
B
B
B
B
These
are
our
elevations
on
details,
and
that
is
the
taken
from
the
roadside.
Looking
at
the
town
hall,
this
one
is
taken
from
the
south
of
the
site
shown
where
the
cable
will
enter
in.
So
it's
going
from
that.
Basically
beside
that
dropped
curb
there
through
in
and
through
the
car
park.
Next
slide,
please
that's
taking
us
into
the
site
following
the
track
of
where
the
excavation
will
take
place
next
slide.
Please-
and
this
will
work
is
where
it
will
terminate
them
this
county
museum.
B
Then
the
insight
location
plan
we're
just
off
the
mall
for
anybody.
That's
familiar
with
irma
in
this
case
next
slide.
Please
that's
our
aerial
photograph
next
slide,
please.
So
this
is
the
photograph
taken
from
the
middle
east
and
shows
the
front
of
the
building,
which
is
slightly
more
impressive
than
the
back,
which
you'll
see
in
the
next
one.
So
this
is
taken
from
charlemont
gardens.
You'll
see
that
the
rear
section
is
actually
a
1960s
add-on
next
slide
and
that's
it
from
the
back.
B
So
you
can
see
what
I
mean
the
difference
in
a
character
of
the
building,
so
our
cable
from
this
instance
is
going
from
that
cable
box
that
you
can
see
to
the
left
of
the
photograph
over
to
just
in
front
of
the
red
car
next
slide.
Please
and
you'll
see
just
where
the
entrance
point
is.
There
is
cable
actually
helpfully
sitting
where
it's
going
to
go
in
next
slide.
Please
that's
our
boost.
Elevations!
B
B
In
this
case
again,
the
application
will
take
the
track
through
the
existing
car
park
at
the
back
next
slide.
Please
that's
our
view
onto
the
shambles.
B
So
again,
we're
in
the
center
of
our
map
for
this
one,
that
source
application
plan
and
that's
our
aerial
photograph
of
the
site,
that's
taken
from
dawson
street.
So
at
the
minute,
your
your
back
is
to
the
irish
culture
center
and
our
cable
is
going
to
run
at
the
corner.
On
your
right
hand,
side
next
slide,
please!
B
So
you
can
just
about
make
out
some
of
the
cable
boxes
in
this
one
because
of
the
the
nature
of
the
footpath,
that's
harder
on
this
one.
So
the
next
slide,
hopefully
we'll
show
it
in
more
detail.
So
we're
going
from
about
where
I'm
standing
taking
the
photograph
just
before
the.
B
So
that's
our
entry
point
next
slide,
please,
and
that's
then,
taken
from
cathedral
looking
back
towards
where
the
work
is
going
to
take
is
those
are
our
proposed
elevations
and
I
run
to
the
town
hall
and
bound
bridge,
that's
our
location
of
the
site,
we're
right
in
the
center
of
bambridge
for
this
one
next
slide,
please
that's
our
site,
location
plan
and
our
aerial
photograph.
B
That's
the
what
I
would
consider
the
main
facade
of
the
down
of
the
town
hall
taken
from
the
downshire
bridge.
Next,
one
then
is
taken
from
scarves
street.
They
come
back
towards
it,
and
this
is
elevation.
Then
that
is
affected
by
the
proposal.
Next
slide,
please!
B
So
from
that
one,
you
can
see
the
cable
box
in
the
path
and
that's
where
the
tracking
is
going
to
go
from
next
slide.
Please!
So
essentially
this
one
there's
very
little
tracking
has
to
be
done.
It's
literally
in
through
the
door.
Next
slide.
Please
and
that's
taken
from
the
other
direction,
and
I
think
that
might
be
nope.
That's
our
elevations
and
cross
sections
that
us
yeah.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
trudy
and
all
of
our
miles
impressive,
but
that
was
certainly
a
good
presentation
there.
Okay
members
will
or
your
each
you
know
individual
report
and
a
decision
time
packs,
but
bringing
alderman
wilson
first.
F
Yeah
and
I
actually
have
no
issue
what's
being
proposed,
obviously
for
slicker
internet
services,
but
whatever
concern
isn't
is
in
regards
to
reinstatement,
because
I
know
in
a
number
of
cases
locally
where
decorative
pavement
has
been
used
and
then
excavated,
not
that
long
after
being
led,
it
has
been
an
eight
more
to
get
it
reinstated
and
in
some
cases
pavement
hasn't
been
available
or
enough
of
it
hasn't
been
available,
or
it
has
been.
You
know,
needlessly
damaged
in
the
removal
process
and
it's
been
difficult
to
source
replacement.
F
So
just
in
the
likes
of
where
you're
looking
at
arma
on
the
decorative
pavement
and
it'll
be
important
that
we
establish
that
we
have
pavement
to
replace
it
with
before,
starting
because
I
know
and
likes
a
rich
hill.
It
was
maybe
over
a
year
before
emmitt
was
resolved
and
it
has
been
since
excavated
again
at
a
similar
site
and
has
been
left
by
one
of
the
utility
companies.
F
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
do
firmly
establish
that
you
know
what
has
been
excavated
will
be
replaced
in
a
reasonable
period
of
time
to
a
similar
standard
as
what
has
been
in
their
in
existence.
Thanks.
B
Thank
you,
chair
alderman
wilson.
Each
of
the
applications
is
the
company
bad
design
and
access
statement.
Each
of
them
say
that
the
whatever's
excavated
will
be
reinstated
as
per
what's
there
at
the
moment
and
we're
appropriate.
Then
there's
conditions
on
it,
so,
in
particular,
the
one
in
chambers
does
have
a
condition
saying
that
they
reinstate
a
surface
as
much
must
match.
What's
there
and
in
terms
of
time
scale.
My
understanding
is
that
these
are
funding
related
and
these
applications.
The
work
actually
needs
to
be
completed
by
the
end
of
september.
L
Yeah
yeah
thanks
john
thanks,
trudy
and
dave,
as
has
been
said
there
in
relation
to
reinstatement
and
blood
with
that
reply.
K
L
Are
they
guaranteeing,
because
I
can
tell
you
experience
of
trying
to
drill
through
a
stone
wall
and
are
they
using
a
special
drilling
technique
or
something
just
because
the
last
thing
you
want
to
say
is
you
know
because
you've
said
it
yourself,
it's
fun
and
related.
It's
time
bound,
you
get
a
contract
on
a
site
and
going
oh.
I
can't
do
it
at
45
degrees.
Sure
do
you
need
it
I'll
I'll,
draw
drill,
a
hole.
Next
thing:
there's
a
pipe
up
the
side
of
the
building
so
like.
How
do
we
guarantee
that
can't
happen?
B
Sure
in
these
particular
applications
we
have
worked
very
closely
with
the
agents
who
are
working
on
behalf
of
the
council.
It
has
been
stressed
upon
them
that
the
applications
had
to
have
a
significant
level
of
detail
for
your
td
and
hed
are
content
with
what
has
been
advised
in
the
design
access
statements.