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Armagh City, Banbridge and Craigavon Borough Council Planning and Regulatory Services Committee on Wednesday the 7th of September 2022 at 3.00pm in the Council Chamber at Craigavon Civic and Conference Centre
A
Okay,
oh
sorry,
live
feed
as
it
started.
It
is
good.
Thank
you,
okay,
declarations
of
interest,
we'll
take
those
in
the
normal
way
as
we
progress
through,
I
mean
unless
something
somebody
has
something
they
really
need
to
say
at
this
stage
and
we'll
take
them
as
we
progress.
B
Thank
you,
chair
members
will
recall
in
july,
2020
members
agreed
to
approve
a
planning
guidance
note
for
businesses
and
other
organizations
in
relation
to
the
reaction
of
temporary
structures
and
the
undertaking
of
temporary
changes
of
use.
The
guidance
note
was
prepared
to
help
businesses
and
organizations
to
deal
with
the
challenges
presented
by
the
covet
19
pandemic,
in
particular
the
need
to
provide
more
physical
space
to
accommodate
social
distancing
and
safer
operations.
B
It
is
proposed
the
temporary
structures
changes
should
be
permitted
without
any
need
for
planning
permission
for
up
to
six
months
initially.
In
certain
circumstances,
the
deadline
set
up
in
the
guidance
has
been
extended
on
a
number
of
occasions,
most
recently
in
february
2022,
when
members
agreed
to
a
further
extension
until
september
2022.
B
wise
restrictions
have
been
relaxed
officers
consider
it
would
be
prudent
to
extend
the
time
frame
for
a
further
six
months
in
order
to
monitor
the
potential
impact
of
the
pandemic
for
the
further
temper
period.
This
would
mean
that
the
provision
of
temporary
structures,
buildings
and
temporary
changes
of
use
would
be
permitted
without
any
need
for
plan
permission
up
to
the
20th
of
february
2023.
In
certain
circumstances,
it
is
recommended
that
members
approve
the
extension
of
time
until
the
20th
of
february
2023.
C
Hey
thank
you
chairman
and
thanks
for
report,
appreciate
that
I
appreciate
that
this
was
designed
for
a
time
of
pandemic.
I
think,
certainly
from
our
perspective,
it
is
welcome
that
it
is
going
to
be
extended.
However,
given
the
pending
crisis
that
we
do
have
in
relation
to
energy
and
soaring
costs,
particularly
for
businesses,
I
wouldn't
be
objectionable
to
extending
that,
for
a
period
of
a
year
to
allow
the
flexibility
for
businesses.
C
You
may
find
themselves
as
having
to
adapt
in
some
way
to
to
try
and
continue
on
if
it
allows
that
better
breathing
space
for
a
period
of
time,
and
then
at
that
point
in
time
it
would
be
brought
back
for
a
review
to
see
where
we
are,
and
I'm
just
conscious
that
there
are
going
to
be
a
lot
of
businesses
who
are
currently
under
pressure,
particularly
in
the
hospitality
industry,
and
much
of
this
support
actually
was
for
them
around
training
on
the
street
and
all
that
that
type
of
stuff
to
increase
capacity
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff.
A
Okay,
remember
so
we
have
a
proposal
that
we
received
for
a
year
councillor,
savage.
A
Okay,
that's
fine,
and
we
will
make
that
amendment
then,
and
move
up
to
the
full
year
period,
moving
on
then
to
generator
3.2,
and
these
are
items
from
information.
So
we
have
an
update
on
planning
case
loads
and,
oh
sorry,
christopher
posby.
C
Oh
sorry,
it
is
on
this
item
on
the
planning
case
notes,
mr
chairman,
if
you
permit
me,
okay,
thank
you,
and
I
appreciate
the
less
that
that
is
before
us,
the
information
and
that
there
have
been
pressures
on
caseloads,
but
I
think
we
have
seen
some
movement
in
terms
of
the
delegated
lists
and
those
eligible
for
calling
or
not
has,
I
think,
roshan.
You
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
has
made
improvements
in
the
department
in
terms
of
trying
to
turn
those
around
quicker
and
that's
to
be
welcomed.
C
I
do
just
in
terms
of
planning
caseloads.
I
know
that
there
are
some
applications
in
the
system
that
have
been
in
the
system
a
significant
amount
of
time
and
have
been
scheduled
to
come
to
this
committee
and
have
been
pulled
at
short,
neutral
studio
information.
I'm
going
to
be
explicit
in
name
guilford
and
the
filling
station
in
guilford,
and
just
to
put
on
record
that
I'm
deeply
frustrated
that
we
can't
get
a
resolution
to
this
filing
application
and
that
if
additional
information
comes
in,
it
should
be
appended
to
a
report.
C
And
it
should
be
considered
by
this
committee
in
the
future
rather
than
being
withdrawn
from
a
schedule
and
not
being
brought
into
this
forum.
It
is
for
elected
members
to
decide
in
terms
of
the
planning
and
decisions
around
that
I
suspect,
but
we
know
it's
going
to.
It-
makes
it
right
here
to
come
here
anyway,
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
as
soon
as
possible
brought
forward
to
give
closure
on
the
application
and
to
take
it
off
the
planner's
desk.
Because
I
know
you
desperately
want
it
off
and
I'm
looking
at
china
thinking.
C
I
think
you
would
just
love
that
off
your
desk
and
the
sooner
we
get
it
back
here,
the
better
it's
going
far
far
too
long,
there's
been
too
many
delay
tactics
used
in
the
case,
and
I
am
not
giving
an
opinion
or
expressing
an
opinion
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
C
I
have
not
been
involved
or
been
consulted
by
anybody
in
relation
to
being
for
or
against
this
application,
I'm
just
simply
making
the
point
that
there
are
a
number
of
applications
that
have
been
delayed
due
to
a
piece
of
information
so
that
information
can
make
it
to
this
committee.
We,
I
think,
are
going
long
enough
and
are
experienced
enough
now
to
be
able
to
make
a
judgment
on
that
basis
of
information.
So,
mr
chairman
of
my
comments
could
be
noted
on
that
action.
C
There
are
several
others
and
that
are
being
held
up
by
judicial
reviews
and
others,
and
I
will
declare
an
interest
as
of
having
lobbied
on
behalf
of
portugal
church
for
their
application.
That
is
now
in
the
system
far
far
too
long,
but
I
understand
is
being
held
up
by
a
judicial
review
that
is
ongoing.
So
those
those
things
need
to
get
off
planners
death,
they're
consuming
time
and
they're
really
impacting
on
targets,
so
sooner
we
can
deal
with
those
the
better.
Thank
you.
A
E
Thank
you,
chair,
just
for
a
way
of
update
officers
are
continuing
to
operate
a
router
eroded
system
in
the
planning
offices
and
this
week
we
are
now
back
in
the
office
three
days
a
week
and
remotely
two
days
and
the
planning
offices
are
still
continuing
to
operate
as
normal
and
we
are
open
to
the
public
as
normal.
E
As
regard
to
the
key
stats,
the
number
of
valid
applications
received
during
the
period
of
1st
of
april
22
to
the
25th
of
august
22
was
556.,
so
this
is
206
less
and
for
the
same
period
last
year
and
one
more
from
the
same
period.
The
year
before
the
number
of
applications
decided
during
the
first
of
april
22
on
the
25th
of
august,
22
was
652,
which
is
69
more
than
the
same
period.
E
E
At
the
end
of
august,
you
can
see
we
had
996
applications
still
currently
in
the
system,
and
I'm
happy
obviously
take
any
questions
that
you
obviously
may
have.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you
chair,
and
I
thank
you
junior
for
your
report.
I
I
I
would
like
to
also
focus
on
what
my
colleague,
archer
cosby
was
referring
to
it's
a
case
of
the
one
in
guilford
and
I'm
not
taking
any
pardon
decisions
on
it
because
in
my
times
and
my
role
as
an
mla,
I
was
involved
in
this.
F
But
you
know
that's.
It
must
be
six
years
now
and
it's
causing
a
lot
of
what
you
call
disruption,
but
we
have
people
in
the
guilford
area
they're
having
to
drive
to
different
places
even
to
get
that
fuel,
and
they
want
this
a
decision
to
unless
well
it
should
have
been
taken
out
before
now.
F
I
know
there's
issues
with
the
covet
and
staff
and
all
over
the
years,
but
that
amount
of
time,
if
there
are
issues
with
hope
that
they
would
be
ironed
out
and
that
it
could
come
before
committing
the
decision
taken
on
it,
and
I
said
I
think
that
amount
of
time
we
should
be
able
to
get
a
decision
at
least
six
years
and
I'd
like
to
think
we
can
get
them
turned
around
a
lot
less.
Not
so
that's
just
a
few
comments,
hey
meg
and
all
of
that
german.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah
and
look
remember,
I
get
I
get,
what
people
are
saying
and,
and
but
it
is,
I
mean
it
has
to
be
concluded
by
this
committee.
You
know
and
members
that
will
be
considering
it.
You
know,
will
be
given
a
view
in
this
and
this
crucible,
if
you
like
at
this
stage
without
fully
considering
what
other
information
is
due
to
come
before
it,
and
that
will
come
in
and
time
and
I
get
the
frustrations
along.
A
You
know
that
go
with
that
and
appreciate
all
of
an
honor,
and
you
know
you
won't
be
taken
apart
and
not
the
way.
It's
most
important.
That's
noted,
but
it's
important
that
as
a
committee
member,
we
just
respect
the
whole
operation
of
the
committee
and
you
know-
and
it
will
come
back
in
due
course,
hopefully
sooner
rather
than
later,
in
terms
of
just
the
general
operations
and
statistics
that
were
that
we're
getting
each
month
in
terms
of
the
performance
of
the
planning
committee.
A
So
I'm
content
that
it
is
going
to
come
back
in
time
and
and
be
dealt
with
in
a
full
and
transparent
way.
Alderman
barr.
G
Thank
you
chairman.
I
appreciate
the
conversation
I
was
just
wondering
because
of
his
life
case,
and
I
was
supposed
to
be
here.
I'm
just
wondering:
should
we
be
one
of
the
confidential
business
to
take
some
form
of
legal
advice
or
getting
some
no
to.
A
Be
honest,
I'm
content
that
we
don't
talk
about
it
anymore
in
this
regulatory.
You
know
end
of
the
meeting
to
be
perfectly
honest
on
you
know:
chrysler
cosby's
made
his
point
and
he's
been
quite
adamant
that
it's
purely
from
the
the
performance
of
the
committee's
aspect.
You
know
in
terms
of
time
frames,
so
I'm
I'm
content
that
that
is
a
reasonable
comment.
I'm
content
based
on
alderman
anderson's,
comment
that
he
isn't
going
to
be
taken
apart.
A
What
I'm
less
content
about
is
just
a
general
discussion
on
the
pros
and
cons
of
it
in
this
part
of
the
meeting,
and
particularly
due
to
the
fact
you
know
we
will
be
considering
it
as
a
live
application
in
the
proper
part
of
the
meeting
in
due
course
when
that
happens.
So
I
would
to
be
honest:
I'd
like
not
to
be
spoken
about
any
further
just
based
on
on
the
fact
that
it
will
be,
it
will
be
talked
about
in
its
proper
place
at
the
appropriate
time.
Counselor
nicholson.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
chairman
and
thank
you.
Thank
you
glad
to
hear
I'm
not
going
to
speak
about
it.
So
look
you
celebrate
three
days
in
two
days.
H
I
know
myself
personally,
it
wasn't
efficient
for
me
in
in
in
my
business,
but
I'm
in
a
slightly
different
business
and
to
you.
So
I
just
wanted
to
throw
a
wee
bit
more
sort
of
you
know,
maybe
not
just
to
say
you
know
what
is
the
the
vision
for
the
planning
department
going
forward
in
relation
to
this
sort
of
hybrid
worker.
So
thank
you.
E
Yeah,
I
think,
I
suppose,
like
everyone,
we're
trying
to
get
back
to
normality
as
much
as
possible,
but
the
three
days
in
now
we're
coming
that
extra
day.
We
feel
we
need
the
extra
day
in
the
office
just
regards
to
decision
issuing
and
things
like
that.
E
They've
been
working
remotely
too,
and
that
balance
seems
to
be
working
well
for
us
in
the
planning
office
and
I
think,
that's
reflected
in
the
amount
of
applications
that
we're
getting
out
the
door
and
you
can
see
from
your
brother's
1442
application
in
the
system
we're
now
down
to
996
and
that's
even
with
staff
vacancies
and
people
off
second,
indeed,
during
the
summer
months.
So
we
think
that
balance
is
working
very
well
for
us
in
the
system.
So
how
are
not
three
days
in
and
two
hours
at
the
minute
it
is
about.
E
Obviously
it's
always
under
review
and
the
senior
management
team
meetings
do
happen
bi-weekly,
and
we
do
continue
to
reassess
that
and
look
at
our
things
to
continue
to
the
performance.
We
will
look
at
that
very
closely
and
there's
anything
else
we
can
do.
We
think
this
is
maybe
another
way
step
that
we
can
take
in
the
right
direction
as
regards
to
getting
those
applications
down
and
getting
us
members
say
the
legacy
applications
in
the
system,
getting
them
out
the
door
and
off
our
desks.
E
H
I
just
know
what
I
thank
you
and
I
appreciate
that
and
obviously
the
figures
do
speak
for
themselves,
but
you
sort
of
kind
of
half
answer,
and
the
next
question
is
like
staff
wise.
Are
you
fully
staffed
what
percentage
he
had
at
the
minute,
because
obviously
we
weren't
trying
to
get
that
974
down
to
750
or
under
his
wonder
it
was
that
sort
of
the
magic
figure
and
we're
all
looking
forward
to
the
day
that
we
we
see.
H
This
and
committee
are
back
at
the
s100,
but
although
the
from
the
look
at
the
number
of
applications
coming
in
you,
you
know
there's
going
to
be,
it
looks
like
there's
a
slight
decrease
there,
but
maybe
that's
just
that
month,
but
look
again
and
just
in
relation
to
the
staff
complement
what
percentage
you
run
at
the
minister.
Thank
you.
E
E
So
that's
another
vacancy,
but
we're
advertising
those
both
jointly
together
and
it's
both
internal
and
external.
So
if
you
know
the
bill,
internal,
don't
make
it
that
external
is
underway.
I'm
short
lesson
tomorrow
for
more
ptos.
As
you
know,
we
had
given
five
temporary
vacancies.
We
have
three,
I
believe,
rooster
of
those
filled,
there's
another
two
that
we're
hoping
to
fill.
I'm
a
short
lesson
for
those
tomorrow
for
prospect.
Interview
next
week,
there's
pto
km
last
week
into
the
rmr
team
on
a
tablet
contract.
A
Okay,
thanks
liam
and
we
went
on
there
to
you-
know,
agenda
item
four:
that's
a
report
from
head
of
control.
4.1
is
a
street
naming
report
and
tom's
going
to
check
that
one.
I
Thank
you
jaron
good
afternoon
members
yep
item
4.1
is
a
request
for
naming
of
six
apartments
of
windsor
avenue
in
oregon,
and
the
applicant's
referred
name
to
the
development
is
park
banner.
I
The
reason
for
the
development
proposal
name
is
that
the
it
overlooks
the
lurkin
park
and
the
design
has
all
the
attributes
of
a
typical
manor
house,
but
officers
have
also
noted
and
just
bringing
members
attention
that
this
development
has
already
been
advertised
as
park.
Manor
and
officers
have
advised
the
applicant
that
this
is
wrong
to
do
so,
as
the
request
is
subject
to
members
approval.
I
J
And
but
I'd
be
very
happy
to
propose,
I
think
it's
a
sensible
title
and
sad
that
it
has
been
announced
in
advance.
It's
wrong,
that
that's
happened,
but
I
think
it
has
been
pointed
out
to
the
developers.
So
I
I'm
happy
with
the
with
the
name:
okay,
counselor
duffy,.
A
I
Thank
you
chair.
As
you
said,
this
is
the
statistics
appreciate
the
department
of
finance
on
property
services
and
to
do
with
the
new
dwellings
that
have
started
and
those
completed
right
throughout
northern
ireland
and
full
reports
and
are
available
from
order.
One
of
2005
right
up
to
42
of
2022
and
notably
in
appendix
2,
shows
that
table
1.3
is
for
the
new
value
starts
for
each
of
the
councils,
and
members
will
note
that
our
council
has
consistently
been
in
the
top
four
rights
since
2015.
I
in
the
last
quarter.
Abc
council
were
the
second
half
performing
council
in
that
quarter
too.
Just
marched
in
behind
belfast
members
will
also
note
that
in
table
2.3
with
regards
to
new
dwelling
completions,
which
equates
to
additional
rates
that
our
council
has
consistently
been
in
the
top
three
performing
councils,
and
notably
again,
our
council
has
been
the
top
performing
council
for
quarter.
Two
and
significantly
ahead
of
all
other
councils.
I
Thank
you
jared,
yes,
just
to
keep
members
updated
on
the
workload
with
the
department,
as
you
recalled
in
the
month
of
previous
months,
that
the
month
of
june
had
a
huge
volume
of
workload,
but
to
our
surprise,
given
that
huge
surge
it
came
in
june
and
taking
kind
of
holiday
period,
etc,
we
still,
and
the
month
of
august,
received
a
further
257
applications,
albeit
as
a
month
in
july.
These
were
generally
for
smaller
type
projects,
but
and
put
it
all
into
perspective,
as
I
mentioned
before.
I
I
Otherwise,
this
investment
is
very
welcome
and
we're
still
walking
through
the
backlog
for
june
submissions
as
we'll
never
be
there.
We
delay
in
the
response
times,
but
we
are
working
away
through
those.
I
A
Okay
members,
any
questions
I
don't
see
any
lights
on,
so
I'm
assuming
that's
a
new
on
just
who's,
put
on
record
thanks
tom
to
your
whole
team,
for
it's
a
lot
of
work
you're
getting
through
and
it
means
a
lot
in
terms
of
the
the
borough
and
and
the
progress
that's
being
made
in
the
construction
sector.
So
that's
that's
good
news.
L
A
Other
relevant
businesses
and
I'm
gonna
made
aware
of
that.
So
on
that
basis,
there'll
be
a
recess
then
until
the
start
of
our
meeting.
So
thank
you.
Members.
A
Thank
you
and
okay
welcome
along
to
our
planning
obligation
phase
of
today's
meeting.
So
we
move
on
to
agenda
item
five,
which
is
applications
for
planning
permission
and
members
of
the
public
are
advised.
The
planning
and
regulatory
services
committee
is
being
held
in
the
council
chamber
for
government
civic
center.
A
However,
due
to
code
restrictions,
the
number
of
persons
who
can
physically
be
facilitated
in
the
chamber
severely
limited
as
a
result,
members
of
the
public
are
only
able
to
view
the
meeting
on
youtube
and
anyone
wishing
to
address
the
committee
has
been
invited
in
the
first
instance
as
an
attendee
via
zoom
audio
recording
is
being
used
to
assist
in
preparing
the
formal
minutes.
Therefore,
anyone
participating
in
the
meeting
can
consent
to
it
being
recorded
and
being
live
streamed
on
youtube.
A
However,
members
of
the
public
should
note
that
counselors
will
not
reach
a
conclusion
as
to
whether
an
application
should
be
approved,
refused
or
deferred
until
little
debate
on
the
application
has
concluded
and
okay
remember
so
not
all
being
the
case
and
a
number
of
applications
have
been
withdrawn
due
to
information
coming
in.
So
that's
a
fact
in
appendix
one
appendix
appendix
7,
on
appendix
6.
and
so
we're
moving
to
appendix
number
two
and,
as
I
wasn't
present
for
that
first
hearing,
I'm
not
going
to
be
churn.
That
particular
one.
A
So
just
in
laying
with
advice.
So
I'm
content
to
vacate
the
churn
and
I'll
hand
over
to
my
vice
chair,
councillor,
savage
and
he
will
proceed
with
obligation
and
appendix
to
you.
So
thanks
kevin.
D
F
Okay,
thank
you,
john
justin,
radiation
to
relations
appendix
2.
I
I
was
not
in
the
tens
at
that
august
meeting
or
the
site
meeting.
So
I'm
not
taking
part
in
that,
and
also
when
I'm
here
appendix
3
I
went
up.
I
was
not
in
attempts
at
the
july
meeting
or
at
the
same
meeting,
so
I
believe
in
the
chamber.
While
these
two
articles
are
being
discussed,
thank
you.
N
O
D
P
Thank
you
chair.
This
application
is
for
an
infill
dwelling
on
the
moss
bank
road
and
it
was
presented
to
the
planning
and
regulatory
services
committee
in
august
and
deferred
for
a
site
visit
and
additional
information.
P
The
site
visit
was
held
on
the
23rd
of
august
and
to
view
the
site
on
the
adjacent
lands
in
front
of
number
20
most
bank
road.
Further
information
was
also
sought
from
dara.
However,
far
maps
are
not
available
due
to
data
protection
and
gdpr
dira
confirmed
that
the
land
in
front
of
number
20
was
claimed
for
bps
basic
payment
scheme
in
2021
and
are
declared
but
not
claimed
yet
for
2022..
P
The
recommendation
is
to
refuse,
and
that
is
unchanged,
and
there
are
four
reasons-
a
set
out
in
the
main
planning
report.
C
Thanks
chair,
I
just
a
note
from
last
month
and
I
think
nichola
did
clarify
this,
but
maybe
just
good
for
the
for
the
record
I
mean:
can
she
confirm
the
updated
information
that
was
supplied
with
dara
in
relation
to
the
site.
P
Thank
you,
chair
dear,
had
previously
confirmed
the
name,
the
the
farm
business
number
and
the
address
of
the
person
claiming
because
of
gdpr
and
and
data
protection.
I
don't
want
to
give
that
those
details
out
in
public
you'd
have
to
go
into
confidential
for
that.
But
I
do
have
those
details
and
they
have
confirmed
that
that
they
couldn't
supply
a
map
on
the
basis
of
that,
but
they
they
have
confirmed
that
the
information
they've
given
me
is
correct.
H
Yeah
thanks
chairman
thanks
nichola,
just
for
for
clarification
when,
when,
when
you
say
that
beera
have
confirmed
that
the
the
the
land
that
was
sort
of
discussed
at
the
last
meeting
has
been,
it's
had
a
bps
where
that
is.
You
know
in
relation
to
active
farming,
I
I'm
assuming
that
that
that's
what
that
comes
under
and
it
was
claimed
in
21
but
declared
for
this
year,
2022,
but
but
not
claimed.
So
what
what's?
The
conclusion
to
that
is
that,
obviously
this
is
a
farm
and
farmland
and
is.
H
P
Well
on
the
map,
and
it
is
shown
as
a
failed
when
we
checked
originally
and
that's
why
we've
checked
with
deera.
I
have
asked
if
this
could
be
an
hour.
They
they've
said
that
this
is
what's
shown
on
their
records
and
it's
up
to
the
the
farmer
to
make
that
declaration
and
if
there
is,
and
they
wouldn't
be
aware
of
any
error
in
relation
to
it
and
as
far
as
we
would
be
concerned.
Yes,
it
would
be
a
field
and
being
an
agricultural
use
rather
than
a
garden.
H
P
P
In
this
case,
there
are
two
buildings
to
the
north
of
the
site
and
they
do
require
number
20
which
lies
behind
this
field,
and
they
require
it
to
have
a
frontage
to
the
road,
and
our
opinion
is
that
it
doesn't
have
a
frontage
because
there's
a
field
in
front
and
on
on
that
basis,
it
there
is
no
gap
site
within
a
substantial
and
continuously
built
up
frontage
to,
and
that
fails,
the
policy
requirements.
D
Thank
you
knock
out
content.
Counselor
nicholson.
Is
there
any
further
questions?
Members,
if
that's
the
case,
there's
no
further
questions,
we'll
move
into
the
debate
stage
and
has
there
is
anybody
any
thoughts
out,
maybe
give
me
for
what
they're
worth
look?
I
was
out
at
the
side
visits
and
you
know
to
me:
it
looked
like
a
field
surrounded
by
a
hedge
and
it
had
a
farm
gate
on
it
and
also
number
20
served
badly
anyway
adjacent
to
that
field,
and
it
was
also
played
a
bit.
D
C
Thanks
chair
and
thanks
nicola
for
the
information-
and
I
just
note
just
for
the
minute
just
to
note
that
I
did
arrive
late
to
the
site
meeting.
However,
at
that
point,
the
rest
of
the
members
lay
after
nicola
brought
me
through
this
exact
same
information
as
everybody
else
had
been
given,
and
I
don't
just
want
to
put
that
on
record,
but
the
information
I
received
is
exactly
the
same
as
others
have
received
on
that
day.
C
Not
in
contrast
to
your
view
very
sure
it
is
when
I
looked
at
the
property,
I
did
feel
that
it
could
reasonably
be
argued
that
there
was
an
extended
front
frontage
down
to
the
road
as
a
garden
with
some
quite
nice,
mature
trees
and
some
vegetable
patches,
and
things
like
that
in
the
in
the
area
evident
on
the
site
also
was
a
right
on
lawn
mower,
showing
that
you
know
residents
intended
to
keep
the
grass
short
and
keep
it
in
a
reasonable
state.
C
However,
I
do
agree
with
your
assessment
in
terms
of
the
use
of
the
site,
particularly
in
light
of
the
referent,
the
form
reference
number
as
it
being
registered
as
a
field
and
also
then
the
form
get
access
to
the
site.
Also
I,
with
that
in
mind
that
would
give
me
a
distinct
impression
that
it
is
being
used
for
agricultural
purposes.
Luke
certainly
looks
that
way.
C
It
is
actually
separate
from
the
application
site
and
isn't
linked
to
the
application
in
any
way,
shape
or
form,
and
so
I
don't
think,
there's
a
prospect
of
that
being
put
right
and
that's
a
matter
for
the
applicant
and
the
tenant
of
that
property.
C
O
Yes,
thank
you
very
sheriff.
Let
me
and
probably
concur
with
my
colleague
and
yourself.
I
think,
with
the
additional
information
from
dhira
it
probably
rubber
stamps
at
this
is
being
used
as
are
being
themed
as
a
portion
of
agriculture
lawn.
So
I
think
in
that
plate
it's
quite
clear,
within
information
additional
information
received.
Thank
you.
H
Yeah
thanks
space
chair
and
on,
like
yourself
and
others,
I
think
the
safe
visit
was
very,
very
useful.
H
We
did
see
a
lot,
as
you
said,
you're
yourself,
there
was
a
hedge
binding,
the
land
and
there
was
a
gate
and
then
culturally
gear
into
the
into
the
land
and-
and
I
think,
given
the
the
deer
information
that
has
been
confirmed
this
evening,
I
think
you've
nowhere
else
to
go
but
concluded,
there's
a
field
and,
as
I
say,
I
concur
with
you
visually
I
I
saw
it
as
a
fail
as
well
and
I
suppose,
in
relation
to
the
planning
policy,
I
haven't
been
on
this
committee
for
some
time
now.
H
I
I
do
recall
that
you
know
in
infill
sites
we
have
refused
some
on
the
grounds
that
there
was
one
that
didn't
have
a
front
hi.
It
was
just
a
lean
way
linking
on
to
the
road,
so
I
suppose
in
in,
in
all
things
being
equal
and
vice
chair,
I
suppose
realistically
we're
we're
sort
of
heading
towards
a
conclusion.
So
thank
you.
D
I
think
thank
you
concert
nicholson
for
that.
Okay,
members,
there's
no
further
lights
on.
I
think
we'll
move
in
the
decision
stage.
Has
anybody
any
proposals
to
make
okay,
not
the
layer?
That's
any
further.
I
propose
that
we
accept
the
recommendation
and
secondland
than
the
officers
report
councillor
wilson.
D
A
A
A
N
Thanks
chair,
it's
just
submit
the
same
declaration
interests
that
have
every
times
applications
come
to
committee
in
religion.
I
think
it
was
a
family
member
of
of
the
applicant
or
contacted
me
at
the
time,
but
I
let
them
know
that
I
couldn't
engage
with
them
due
to
being
a
member
of
the
planning
committee.
Therefore
they
can
take
part
in
the
up
debate
and
so
on
with
the
same
declaration
he
committed,
I
said
the
other
three
times
it
came
to
committee.
Just
for
the
record.
Thanks.
C
J
A
Well,
based
on
my
records,
all
of
them
twitter
at
the
site
visit
online.
It
was
brought
before
committee
on
the
second
of
june,
and
then
there
was
a
site
visit
on
the
22nd
of
june
and
myself.
Councillor
savage
councillor,
lavry
and
councillor
nicholson
were
president
of
that,
along
with
roshen
hamill,
the
principal
officer
so
yeah,
he
hadn't,
attended
the
site
visit.
A
B
Thank
you
chair.
Firstly,
members.
Can
I
correct
an
error
in
the
report.
You
will
note
that
the
recommendation
states
refusal
this
should
actually
state
approval
and
also
members.
I
would
like,
with
your
approval,
to
add
a
further
sentence
to
the
end
of
the
proposed
condition:
number
seven,
which
should
state
the
operator
of
the
development
here
by
approved,
shall
provide
to
the
planning
authority
a
copy
of
the
independent
consultant
shadow
flicker
assessment
within
two
months
of
the
commissioning
of
the
report.
B
B
The
application
was
presented
back
to
members
in
the
sixth
gen,
with
an
unchanged
recommendation
to
refuse
where
it
was
agreed
that
the
application
be
deferred
to
allow
a
site
visit
by
members
to
take
place
following
the
site
visit.
The
application
was
presented
back
to
committee
in
july
2022,
with
an
unchanged
recommendation
to
refuse
and
following
discussions
members
resolved
to
overturn
the
officer's
recommendation
and
grant
planning
permission.
B
The
primary
reasons
for
reaching
that
decision
are
set
out
in
detail
in
the
report,
members
that
the
draft
conditions
of
approval
be
presented
further
consideration
and
the
proposed
conditions
are
set
out
in
detail
in
the
report,
and
members
are
recommended
to
approve
the
draft
conditions
as
set
out
and,
as
we've
previously
been
to
the
site.
I
don't
have
a
presentation
on
this
one.
A
Okay
members,
we
have
to
my
knowledge
of
no
one
else,
speaking
on
this
in
terms
of
their
for
or
against,
so
based
on
that,
then
we'll
move
to
any
comments
just
wish
to
make
at
this.
H
Yeah
chairman,
thank
you
and
thanks
roshin
for
the
report.
I
think
I'm
happy
to
pose
a
recommendation
chairman,
including
the
amendment
that
obviously
russian
outlined
at
the
committee
tonight,
in
particular
the
approval
amendment.
I
read
the
papers
last
night.
I
thought
there's
something
wrong
here
so,
but
anyway,
look
I'm
happy
to
propose
the
very
goal
of
this
chairman.
Thank
you.
A
N
A
A
A
Q
Thank
you
chair.
This
application
is
a
save
for
outline
planning
permission
that
listen
to
geared
road
bomb
bridge.
The
application
site
seeks
soy
to
establish
the
principle
of
development
of
the
site
and
details
on
site
and
design
be
reserved
matters.
This
application
state
lies
in
the
open
company,
says
defined
in
the
area
plan
policy,
cta1
and
pps21
intend
to
face
a
range
of
types
of
development
which,
in
principle,
are
considered
acceptable
in
the
countryside.
Q
One
of
these
is
accordance
with
policy
cty,
yet
for
infill
development,
all
ccty
it
requires
the
four
specific
elements
be
met
in
relation
to
the
first
test.
Officers.
Consider
that
there
is
not
a
substantial
and
continuously
built
up
frontage
along
this
section
of
listening
gate.
Road
number,
one
listen
to
bar
road
is
separated
from
the
application
site
by
the
listener
bar
road.
Consequently,
there
is
a
break
in
the
frontage
of
the
development
along
the
lesnar
gate
road.
The
proposal
therefore
relies
on
development
along
two
frontages.
Q
Therefore,
there
is
no
line
of
three
or
more
buildings
along
a
singular
road
frontage
to
me,
policy
cty,
its
definition
of
a
substantial
and
continuously
built
up
frontage
members
are
advised
that
this
is
the
established
position
of
the
pac
in
that
were,
there
is
a
break
in
the
frontage
of
development
by
a
minor
road.
The
proposal
therefore
relies
on
development
along
two
frontages
and
policy
terms,
and
this
is
fatal
in
compliance
with
the
policy
ct
way
yet
officers
consider
their
proposed
development
fails.
Q
This
application
is
also
be
considered
under
policy
cty,
2a
or
pps21.
That
indicates
a
plan.
Permission
will
be
granted
for
a
dwelling
of
an
existing
cluster
of
development,
provided
all
six
criterion
are
selling.
The
policy
are
met,
criterion
one
requires
that
the
cost
of
development
lies
outside
the
farm
and
consists
of
four
or
more
buildings
if
it
weighs
three
or
dwellings.
Officers
are
satisfied
that
this
aspect
of
the
interior
has
been
met.
Q
Criteria.
Crew
2
requires
that
the
cluster
of
development
appears
as
a
visual
entity.
In
a
local
landscape,
the
requirement
that
the
cluster
appears
as
a
visual
ante
in
this
criterion
suggests
that
the
grouping
has
a
distinct
physical
expression
in
the
local
landscape,
again
reinforcing
the
interpretation
of
a
cluster
of
development
being
formed
by
the
buildings.
Q
The
proposal,
however,
is
not
bounded
on
two
sides,
with
other
development
due
to
the
position
of
the
listener
of
our
road
and
therefore
officers
consider
the
proposed
development
fails
to
comply
with
the
second
test
of
criterium
iv
or
cty2a
criterion.
Five
requires
the
development
of
the
site
can
be
absorbed
into
existing
cluster
through
rounding
off
and
consolidation
officers.
Consider
that
there
is
no
existing
cluster
in
this
case
rather
linear
forms
of
development
along
the
listener
gain
road.
Q
The
application
site
is
at
one
end
of
two
linear
forms
of
development
along
listening
gate,
road,
the
development
of
the
state,
but
only
further
road.
The
company
said
extending
the
existing
ribbon
of
development
and
altering
the
existing
character
criterion.
6
requires
that
the
development
would
not,
of
first
adversely
impact
residential
immunity
and,
in
this
respect,
officers
are
satisfied.
Q
However,
as
previously
no
officers
considered,
post
development
would
constitute
a
ribbon
of
development
and
fails
to
comply
with
policy
cty
it
and
therefore
would
result
in
a
further
erosion
of
the
character
of
the
area
and
is
is
not
compliant
with
cty
14.
in
terms
of
access
and
parking.
These
means
these
matters
would
be
reserved
for
reserve
matters
and,
in
any
event,
we
consulted
with
dfi
roads
who
had
no
objection
to
the
proposal
subject
to
reserve
matters.
Q
Q
A
Okay,
thanks
liam
for
your
presentation
now
with
us
today
we
have
richard
parks
from
mcallen,
stuart
architects
and
he's
going
to
make
a
representation
as
the
agent
in
support
of
the
application.
So
richard
you're
very
welcome
to
the
meeting
and
you
have
three
minutes
there'll
be
you
should
be
able
to
view
a
timer
on
the
screen
there.
So
when
you
start
your
remarks,
the
timer
will
commence
and
then
once
the
three
minutes
up
I'll
have
to
bring
your
remarks
to
clues,
but
you're
you're
welcome
and
you're.
You
can
start
your
own
time
there.
Thank
you.
R
Thank
you,
chair
good
afternoon
councillors.
I
would
ask
that
the
application
refusal
recommendation
will
be
considered
for
the
following
reasons.
The
cty
policy
allows
for
a
small
gap
site
with
a
minimum
of
two
houses
and
a
continuously
built
up
frontage.
We
would
note
that
there
is
a
continuously
put
up
frontage
along
the
estimated
road
from
glen
lawton
road
junction
to
mary's
church
listening,
which
is
some
12
properties
total
the
cty
ribbon
development
policy
does
not
specifically
note
that
a
public
road
represents
a
break
in
road
frontage.
R
The
policy
lacks
clarity
in
this
situation,
as
it
is
not
definitively
stated,
should
each
application
not
be
judged
on
its
individual
circumstance.
The
list
of
our
road
is
a
minor
road
which
is
both
well
screened
on
both
sides
and
take
and
does
not
take
the
appearance
of
a
standard
public
road
t-junction
at
its
mouth.
The
lesson
of
our
road
is
5
meters
wide
and
quickly
narrows
to
3
meters.
R
R
The
site
is
elevated
and
extremely
well,
basically
screened
and
a
suitably
proportioned
single
story
dwelling
would
respect
the
existing
development
pattern
and
have
little
or
no
impact
on
the
surrounding
environment.
This
detail
would
be
available
for
scrutiny
at
reserve
matters
staged,
as
noted
by
the
case
officer.
Views
onto
the
site
are
restricted
and
there
is
mature
vegetation
a
lot
established
along
the
boundaries
which
is
compliant
with
cty13.
R
A
Just
talk
what
she
did:
okay,
yeah
there.
We
go
thanks
very
much
richard
for
your
remarks,
so
we
know
other
speakers
that
I'm
aware
of
on
this
one
so
we'll
move
then
to
the
members
and
where
you
can
ask
your
questions
now,
this
stage,
counselor
nicholson.
H
Yeah
thanks
and
chair,
and
and
thanks
liam
and
richard
for
your
presentations
liam.
I
suppose
this
this
really
lies
on
this
this
this
this
road
breaking
the
front
exists,
is
the
the
key
of
this
one.
He
gets
a
bit
more
deferred
to
you.
Obviously,
planning
appeals,
that's
the
direction
that
they
obviously
are
going
in
that
these
you
know,
types
of
roadways,
breaking
up
the
frontage
and
is
is
is
is
seen
as
then
ribbon
on
either
side
type
thing
in
in
relation.
H
That's
just
we're
more
detailed,
not
liam
just
to
give
us,
you
know
slowly,
but
more
sort
of
you
know
what
the
planning
appeals
have
said
on
on
those
things,
and
is
there
any?
You
know,
variation
of
width
and
you
know,
enclosure
and
and
and
and
things
like
that,
because
it
is,
it
is
quite
a
narrow
one.
I
have
to
say
look
at
the
photographs
thanks.
Q
Yeah,
thank
you.
Vance
nichollen,
yeah,
essentially,
look
the
the
the
established
position
of
the
commission
is:
if
there's
a
road
that
breaks
a
linear
form
of
development,
then
it
basically
complete.
It
gives
you
two
separate
frontages
and
you
have
to
consider
them
both
as
that.
So
therefore,
if
there's
a
gap
within
one
foundation,
it
can't
be
reliant
upon
a
second
from
it's
at
the
other
side
of
said
road.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
sure.
Thanks
to
the
channel
man
for
the
report,
sir
me,
I'm
just
a
question
for
you.
The
agent
alluded
to
that.
The
lesson
of
our
road
been
small,
that
that
decreases
in
width
as
you
go
down
it,
it
is
just
for
claudia.
It
is
a
day
of
5
and
clean
road
on,
for
the
purposes
of
planning
that
is
considered
a
charge
away.
Is
that
the
case.
Q
A
Look
at
you
they're
late
only
is
that
okay,
that's
all
right.
Any
other
comments.
Members
we
wish,
from
my
perspective,
was
looking
at
this
one.
It
was
taking
me
back
to
that
savings.
We
had
normal
where
there
was
a
great
deal
of
being
around
a
road
whether
it
was
a
an
adopted
road
and
it
was
more.
You
know
it
was
leaning
towards
the
clustering
aspect
just
looking
at
the
satellite
imagery
and
that
it
does
look
like
a
fairly
intensively
built
up
zone
and
I'm
just
wondering
you
know,
could
yeah.
I
know
it.
A
Maybe
wasn't
one
of
yours
that
time,
but
just
you
know,
based
on
on
that
aspect,
I'm
sort
of
struggling
with
you
know
the
differences
in
the
two,
for
they
were
kind
of
similar
in
their
in
their
appearances,
in
terms
of
working
out
whether
you
know
the
rule,
the
road
seemed
to
be
a
factor.
If
it
had
been
adopted,
it
was
going
to
play
in
favor
on
that
application,
but
because
it
wasn't
it
was.
It
was
a
blockage
in
that
regard,
but
in
this
one
the
road
is
is
playing
a
different
part.
A
It's
preventing
the
application
from
being
viewed
in
a
favorable
late,
I'm
just
wondering
under
the
clustering
aspect.
Why
that's
the
case?
I
get
it
from
the
the
gap
safe
element,
but
just
get
away
with
authority
from
the
the
clustering
element
of
it.
Given
how
intensive
it
looks
in
that
position
and
the
fact
that
there
is
that
space
there
that
you
know
you
can
understand
the
argument
from
that
perspective,.
J
Q
I
think
maybe
the
one,
the
that
aspect
of
the
the
previous
one
out
of
being
the
committee
was
actually
to
do
with
the
consideration
of
a
crossroads
in
terms
of
compliance
with
cty2.
There
is
no
crossroads
here.
We
have
a
t-junction
which
is
maybe
slightly
different.
What
we
do
have
is
a
community
building.
There
is
a
church
on
one
side
of
it,
but
it
doesn't
physically
read
as
a
cluster
and
that's
why
we've
arrived
at
the
recommendation.
Q
Q
A
C
We
just
make,
mr
chairman,
an
observation
just
in
terms
of
the
the
lesson
of
our
road.
C
I
think
it's
it's
fair
to
say
it's
quite
a
lengthy
stretch
of
road
and
runs
from
the
t
junction
to
the
crossroads
at
the
other
end
with
the
valley
iron
road.
C
At
that
point,
and
it
looks
to
be
some
distance
and
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that-
and
you
think
you
have
clarified-
I
just
want
to
be
sure
in
relation
to
this
matter
and
was
the
images
look
like
the
carriageway
or
the
road
surface,
and
that
is
well
maintained
and
clear
that
it
is
from
the
top
end
to
the
bottom
and
completely
adopted,
because
at
times
you
can
have
areas
on
on
roads
struggling
ways
that
maybe
the
main
route
is
adopted,
but
maybe
there's
a
lane
way
off
it,
but
still
called
the
same
name,
but
it's
not
adopted
at
all
and
sometimes
that
can
cause
some
ambiguity
in
these
applications.
C
I
just
want
to
confirm
that.
That's
not
the
case
here.
On
the
other
issue,
I
think
in
relation
to
the
frontage.
C
For
my
mind,
I
think
you've
said
this
already:
the
road
itself
splits
the
frontage
of
the
property
on
either
side.
Is
that
correct
just,
and
that
is
why
this
is
being
taken
in
consideration
to
this.
Had
this
had
been
the
laneway
or
not
existed
at
all,
we
would
be
dealing
with
a
cluster.
Is
that
correct
or
infill,
bigger,
pardon.
Q
Yeah,
I
suppose,
in
terms
of
the
the
first
point
kind
of
cosby,
whether
the
entire
length
of
the
road
is
is
adopted.
I'm
not
100
sure
I
I
would
I
would
have
thought
so
I
mean,
I
suppose,
the
the
section
that
we're
dealing
with
immediately
adjacent
to
the
site
is
definitely
an
adopted
road,
and
I
suppose
that
would
be
the
point
that
the
the
sort
of
wave
we
have
focused
on
in
dealing
with
dfi
roads
in
terms
of
the
consultation.
Q
But
yes
you're
quite
right.
If
the
road
wasn't
there,
this
would
be
an
infill
site.
A
H
Yep,
thank
you
chairman
and
thanks
liam
richard,
and
I
have
to
say
it.
I
feel
a
wee
bit
of
sympathy
for
richard
with
this
one,
because
it
it.
I
agree
with
your
sort
of
you
know,
opinion
sherman.
When
you
look
at
it
another
dwelling
in
there
isn't
going
to
really
really
change
the
character
of
that
area,
but
in
relation
to
policy
and
as
liam's
pointed
out
for
continuance
in
the
committee
and
the
roadway
or
lynnway,
what
are
you
doing
on
a
college
adopted
road
it
under?
It
does
split
the
the
front
edge.
H
Unfortunately,
but
this
this
is
where
we're
sort
of
obviously
going
to
face
the
committee
going
forward.
All
the
easy
ones
are
gone
and
it's
going
to
be
the
difficult
ones
and,
as
I
say,
this
is
one
of
those
ones
where
I
have
the
massive
sympathy
for
the
agent
and
I
have
to
say
I
would
trap
myself,
but
at
this
current
time
it's
it.
It
falls
below
policy.
But
again,
I
suppose
he
has
the
option
of
an
appeal.
If,
if,
if
the
committee
does
decide
not
to
accept
the
recommendation
chance,
thank
you.
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
would
agree
with
you
on
that
point
and
suppose
policy
is
to
your
point
and
then
you've.
If
the
you
know,
you
can
come
at
it
from
a
number
of
perspectives,
and
I
look
at
it
as
a
sort
of
maybe
a
weakness
in
the
policy
in
that
regard
that
this
you
know,
but
we
have
to
take
the
policy
as
it
stands.
Obviously,
but
any
other
comments.
A
Don't
see
annie
well,
I'm
not
business
memory
will
move
into
the
decision.
Fees
will
be
any
decisions
or
proposals
on
this
one.
Member.
H
Yeah
chairman,
for
the
obviously
the
reasons
that
were
set
out
previously
and
with
a
good
discussion,
also
I'm
sure
you'll,
agree
sharma,
but
basically
I
I
propose
we
accept
the
the
recommendation
follow
us.
Thank
you,
charlie.
A
A
See
anyone
obvious
I
will
sack
on
it
in
that
regard
and
yeah,
I'm
sympathetic
with
the
with
richard
in
this
position
here
not
a
lot
of
the
obligate,
because
I
always
look
back
at
other
applications
and
that's
where
I
requested
the
clarity
on
that
one
from
from
liam.
But
we
are
dealing
with
the
policy
so
and
I
will
second
that
and
there'll
be
any
other
country
or
a
different.
A
I'm
proposals,
the
room
here,
I'm
not
seeing
any
to
on
so
I'll,
not
be
assessing
we'll
conclude
on
that
appendix
I'm,
going
to
move
that
to
index
10
members,
so
darn
you're
welcome
to
the
meeting,
and
so
we
move
then
to
appendix
10
and
kail
is
presenting
on
this
one
kyle
elder.
I
just
finished
on
the
screen.
Here:
it's
okay,
you
can
commence
when
you're
ready
there.
Thank
you.
S
S
This
plan
application
is
required
to
go
before
the
planning
committee
as
it's
seeking
to
fury
a
condition
of
a
major
plan.
Application
officers
have
taken
that
members
have
read
their
port
and
phones
as
such.
This
is
a
synopsis
only
condition
10
of
a
plan.
Approval
lawyer,
2021
1371
f,
required
all
deliveries
to
the
site
to
be
made
between
8am
and
7pm.
S
The
noise
impact
assessment
considered
the
noise
impact
to
be
low
members
are
advised
that
the
site
is
adjacent
to
commercial
lands
to
the
west
vacant
lands
to
the
east.
A
manufacturing
business
to
the
north
plain
pitches
located
at
the
oregon
junior
high
school
are
opposite
the
site
to
the
south
and
the
nearest
dwellings
to
the
siders
sheriff,
drive
and
queen's
walk,
which
are
to
the
north
and
are
separated
from
the
site
by
a
roadway
parking
area
and
small
green
area.
S
The
nearest
residential
property
to
the
unloading
area
is
separated
by
a
distance
of
40
meters.
Officers
are
of
the
opinion
that
the
reason
for
condition
10
to
protect
residential
amenity
will
be
maintained
in
that
disp.
Despite
the
increase
in
delivery
hours
monday
to
saturday,
the
noise
impact
assessment
shows,
the
impact
is
rated
as
low
restricted
to
the
vrs
will
continue
to
ensure
the
residential
immunity
of
neighboring
residents
will
continue
to
be
protected.
S
S
The
second
slide,
then,
shows
neural
photographs,
so
this
is
actually
an
older
aerial
photograph.
The
site
has
since
been
developed
out,
but
it
does
show
the
local
context
and
then
the
nearest
residential
properties
are
to
the
to
the
north
of
the
site
next
site.
It
shows
the
site
location
plan
and
the
next
site
then
shows
the
approved
site
layout
plan.
So
it's
one
retail
unit
and
it
has
built
been
built
by
it,
as
shown
there.
S
A
A
Thank
you
kyra.
We
have
to
speak
in
support
of
the
application,
eamonn
lockery
and
he's
the
agent
so
yeah,
I'm
trusting
your
online
there.
If
you
want
to
put
your
camera
on
yeah
there,
you
go
so
even
again,
as
as
always,
you'll
have
three
minutes
to
make
your
comments
and
a
timer
should
be
coming
up
on
the
screen
there
very
shortly
and
then,
when
you
start
speaking
that
clock
it
will
take
down.
So
you
have
three
miles
and
you
can
make
your
representations
and
when
you
feel
step
there.
Thank
you.
T
Thank
you
chair.
I
I
have
only
requested
rights
to
speak
in
case
there
was
answer,
questions
that
might
be
raised.
Obviously
we
support
and
welcome
the
case
officers
recommendation
and
their
their
diligent
assessment
of
the
application,
and
indeed
the
speed
of
the
determination
of
the
application
and
bringing
it
forward,
and
so
we'd
like
to
thank
the
case
officer
for
for
that.
But
unless
there's
any
questions,
I'm
happy
to
seek
the
committee
endorse
the
case
officer's
report.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Okay,
thanks
seaman,
that's
fine
and
you
know
I
will
allow
members
to
ask
questions
and,
as
they
see
fit,
then
as
we
progress
through
this
application,
so
we'll
move
92
questions
for
you
for
anybody
really
for
the
agent
or
and
for
the
planner.
So
we
annie
query
specifically
remembers
his
wish
to
raise.
H
Yeah
thanks,
gentlemen,
and
thanks
kyle
and
just
clarification.
Obviously,
the
service
area
is
to
the
rear
of
of
the
unit,
which
is
the
closest
point
to
the
houses.
There's
no
openings
in
that
fence
proposed
along
the
back
on
the
sheriff
drive.
All
the
access
is
going
to
come
from
millennium,
where
just
confirmation.
A
S
A
H
Yeah
chairman,
thank
you
and
I
suppose
it's
straightforward
and
I
suppose
the
key
is
there's
no
objections
and
I'm
assuming
that
they
were.
They
were
consulted.
As
part
of
this,
you
know
for
consideration
of
change
of
condition.
So
I
think
if,
if
given
the
the
detailed
paper
in
front
of
us,
I
think
it's
a
well
presented
application
and
I
don't
see
any
massive
issue
with
me,
but
that's
my
intent.
A
H
A
Not
that
I'm
happy
to
second
that
and
so
I'll
not
basis
away
any
other
proposals
or
kind
of
proposals
see
any
so
I'll,
be
enough.
Okay,
thank
you.
Eamon
yeah,
you've
inspired
the
inquisition
and
so
you're
you're
free
to
go
and
we're
going
in
to
sorry,
okay
and
we'll
move
on
then
to
appendix
8,
which
is
being
presented
by
shaneed.
F
Now,
thank
you
chair
as
just
that.
I
would
declare
an
opportunity
interest
in
this
particular
item,
as
I
was
part
of
the
committee
that
received
a
presentation
some
time
ago.
So
I'm
happy
enough
to
stay
in
the
meeting
and
have
an
open
mind
on
this
application.
Thank
you.
A
E
Yeah,
thank
you
chair
members
may
recall
at
the
meeting
of
the
plan
and
regularly
service
committee
held
in
the
second
chile,
2022
has
agreed
that
this
application
be
approved,
subject
to
the
completion
of
a
section,
76
legal
agreement,
the
draft
legal
agreement
and
the
environmental
impact
assessment
screen
determination
was
discussed,
discussed
in
detail
with
the
council's
legal
team.
A
on
review
of
the
screen
and
determination.
The
legal
team
phased
by
the
factual
content
of
the
screen.
E
Determination
remained
unchanged
in
the
conclusions
and
impact
they're
in
is
such
that
the
application
was
not
required
to
be
accompanied
by
an
environmental
statement
for
robustness
and
for
complete
completeness.
The
application
could
also
be
judged
to
fall
under
schedule.
2
category
13,
any
change
to,
or
extensive
development
of,
a
description
listed
in
paragraph
112
of
column,
one
of
these
rigs
and
the
developments
already
authorized
executed
or
is
the
process
of
being
executed
as
such.
A
D
C
You
before
the
committee
would
agree
to
that
decision.
I
laughed
himself
for
making
or
taking
part
in
that
decision,
as
I
haven't
been
present
in
this
application
in
future
previous
committees.
Thank
you.
A
S
This
plan
application
is
a
section
54
application
which
takes
the
furry
condition
of
plan
approval,
la-08
2021-1467
f,
which
is
granted
plan
permission
for
72
residential
units
at
the
dinnery.
In
arma
this
plan,
application
is
required
to
go
before
the
planning
committee
as
a
second
ferry,
a
condition
of
a
major
planning
application
officers
have
taken
the
members
of
red
report
in
full,
and
this
is
a
synopsis
only
a
condition
yet
of
la
08.
2021,
1467,
f,
restricted
works
on
this
8th
between
the
hours
of
7
30
a.m
and
5
30
p.m.
S
S
Band
approval,
elliot
2021,
1467
f
is
the
third
phase
of
development
at
the
dinner,
and
the
proposed
change
is
requested
so
that
the
developer
continue
can
continue
to
work
to
establish
working
times
on
the
wider
site.
Officers
are
of
the
opinion.
This
variation
is
acceptable
and
the
proposal
will
not
prejudice
the
overall
aim
of
the
condition.
S
Again,
the
aerial
photography
is
quite
old,
a
in
relation
to
the
site,
so
it
does
show
they
still
show
the
existing
development
that
they
spurn
park
and
malfunce
a
crest
to
the
east.
But
members
are
advised
that
if
he
has
won
to
the
a
west
and
if
it
has
been
constructed
and
phase
say
two
to
the
south,
the
southwest
is
under
construction,
so
the
sec.
S
The
next
slide,
then
just
shows
the
first
phase
and
the
second
phase,
which
is
under
construction
and
that's
just
the
site,
location
plan
and
then
just
to
show
the
cut
the
relationship
between
the
proposed
layout
and
the
other
a
the
second
phase
of
the
development.
You
can
just
see
it
there
to
the
south
southwest
and
then
the
next.
The
final
slide,
then
just
shows
the
relationship
between
the
the
layouts
and
the
the
existing
dwellings
at
sperm
park
and
malefon
crest.
A
Let's
see-
and
I
just
point
to
clarity-
okay,
just
given
we're
heading
into
the
winter
months,
so
I
know
that
the
time
scale
will
be.
You
know
6
30,
so
you
know
we
get
into
the
middle
of
the
weather.
That'll
be
dark
in
terms
of
the
continuance
of
that
will
there
be
sure
there'll
be
some
flood
lighting
or
something
used
by
the
contractors
to
assist
and
all
that,
I'm
just
making
an
assumption.
A
So
without
being
the
case,
you
know
hasn't
been
consideration
given
to
existing
residents,
and
you
know
the
overspell
of
light
and
that
type
of
thing
I'm
just
curious.
You
know
at
that
time
of
the
year
and
also
you
know
the
road
itself.
You
know
the
existing
road
if
they're
dry,
soil
and
the
conditions
are
wet,
you
know
is
there-
is
that
something
we
have
any
sale
or
is
that
purely
from
a
psna
group
safety
perspective.
S
So
the
the
increase
in
time
is
just
just
at
six
six
p.m,
so
the
the
second
phase
of
development.
Actually,
it
also
bought
some
of
the
neoprene
dwellings.
It
actually
had
allowed
its
operation
time
in
the
convention
until
7
pm.
S
A
That's
gross,
thank
you.
Chrysler.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
just
in
terms
of
this,
I'm
assuming
them
in
this
application
was
initially
consulted
upon
with
both
residents
and
I'm
assuming
there
would
have
been
a
significant
consultation
carried
a
community
consultation
of
some
description,
maybe
in
this
one
because
of
the
size
and
scale
of
the
development,
with
the
change
in
operational
times,
because
this
obviously
application
has
come
after
that
consultation.
C
After
a
number
of
conditions,
it
may
have
satisfied
the
residents
to
prevent
them
from
making
an
objection
of
some
description,
and,
with
this
change
through
youtube,
maybe
be
seen
in
the
context
of
moving
the
goal
posts
on
this,
and
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it
wouldn't
adversely
impact.
You
know
you've
alluded
to
that
as
well,
but
just
if
there's
an
expectation,
the
consultation
takes
place.
The
decision
was
made
based
on
that.
C
Would
this
then
have
an
adverse
impact,
then
on
residents
and
who
maybe
thought
they
were
getting
something
and
now
they're
getting
something
different.
Thank
you.
S
Yeah
in
terms
of
this
application,
it
was
advertised
in
the
local
in
the
local
papers
and
their
neighbor
notification.
Letters
were
also
sent
so
yeah
the
parties
most
affected.
They
will
will
be
aware
of
the
application.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
kyle,
any
other
comments
of
the
spheres,
don't
see
any
light
zones
so
we'll
move
them
to
bit
phase
and
suppose
given,
but
what
I've
learned
from
kyler
you
know
on
that.
That
basis
will
be
more
content
than
that.
It's
just.
Certainly
something
to
you
know
it's
a
built
up
area
there'll,
be
a
lot
of
you
know
heavy
plant
moving
around
and
that
type
of
thing.
So
it's
just
to
protect
existing
residents,
but
a
more
content.
You
know,
given
the
level
of
consultation
that
has
obviously
can
place
any
other
comments.
A
M
Thank
you
chair
and
thanks
kay
thanks
kyle
for
that
presentation
and
yes,
look
developers
and
construction
are
under
severe
pressures
at
the
present
time
and
delivering
new
homes
etc.
On
suppose,
every
minute
counts
and
this
this
time
extension
will
help
alleviate
some
of
those
pressures.
So
I'm
happy
enough
to
propose
and
not
be
a
sister.
Thank
you.
The
recommendation.
A
A
Index,
11
and
cheney
is
going
to
bring
this
application
so
sinead
and
when
you're
ready.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
chair
yeah.
The
application
is
to
me
in
condition
14
of
previous
plan
approval,
which
was
granted
for
the
erection
of
45
dwellings,
and
the
reason
is
before
the
planning
committee
is
because
it
relates
to
a
major
application
and
others
have
taken
that
members
have
read
the
report
in
full,
so
this
will
only
be
a
synopsis
condition.
14
required
that
a
footpath
through
the
port
of
down
road
be
constructed
prior
to
the
occupation
of
the
25th
house.
E
This
application
now
seeks
to
amend
that
condition
to
prior
to
the
occupation
of
the
35th
dwelling
house.
The
applicant
has
provided
a
number
of
reasons
why
this
is
required,
namely
that
covet
and
the
pandemic
remains
ongoing
and
the
after
effects
are
still
causing
issues
in
getting
labor
specific
materials
and
a
backlog
and
getting
supporting
consultants
appointed
so
maintaining
workflow
and
site
is
essential
to
avoid
redundancies.
E
E
E
These
works
also
require
concur
for
consideration
as
a
service
invader
and
utilities,
who
has
also
been
affected
by
labour
shoulders
and
covet.
In
conclusion,
they
require
that
this
be
extended
to
allow
the
occupation
of
further
ten
dwellings,
but
still
deliver
the
food
path
as
a
grade.
A
officers
and
consultation
at
the
air
roads
are
content
to
allow
the
occupation
of
an
additional
12
10
dwellings
on
the
site.
This
will
not
impact
the
overall
accessibility
of
this
site
in
accordance
with
pps3.
E
You
will
also
note
that
helping
two
objections
to
this
planning
application.
Those
objections
relate
specifically
to
the
sewage
network
officers
and
indeed,
members
can
only
consider
the
condition
which
is
up
for
to
be
up
tonight
and
cannot
consider
the
sewage
system
at
present,
which
is
the
footpath.
So
therefore,
those
objections
are
not
applicable
to
this
particular
proposal.
E
Officers
in
consultation
with
dfi
rules
or
content
that
this
may
be
approved.
Just
take
it
to
your
presentation
just
to
allow
you
to
see
where
we
are
and
what
the
food
path
is
and
to
see.
If
you
would
agree
with
our
a
recommendation.
E
E
That
link
actually
takes
you
up
onto
the
port
of
down
road
and
they
are
considerable
level
differences,
so
that
will
take
a
structural
engineer,
etc
to
plan,
as
well
as
making
sure
it's
level,
and
the
utility
providers
will
also
come
under
that
bottom
bed
of
the
road.
So
they're,
looking
just
for
a
bit
more
time
to
complete
that
next
slide.
Please
that
just
shows
the
view
from
the
port
of
down
road
to
the
area
where
the
footpath
will
come
up.
E
F
My
thank
you
chair
and
thanks
junior,
just
just
for
clarification
there,
the
original
25.
How
did
that
come
about?
How
did
we
reach
those
figures
originally
on
we're
asking
to
increase
this
now
to
35,
but
is
the
percentage
of
the
overall
development
or
how
does
25
come
about
or
we
get
a
number
of
these
applications
and
there
seems
to
be
a
figure
put
in
there,
but
is
there
something
set
in
stone
that
we
need
of
a
percentage
of
the
development
or
what
is
it
just?
How
much
clarify.
A
E
Yes,
sir,
thank
you.
Alterman
anderson,
there's
no
standard
as
regards
to
so
many
houses
have
to
be
either
built
or
occupied
prior
to
a
footpath
link,
one
legacy
for
a
rate
turning
lane,
which
you
have
to
have
fifty,
so
it
basically
is
negotiation
between
at
that
time,
the
applicant
and
the
dfi
roads
and
ourselves
we
thought
halfway
through
the
development,
was
a
reasonable
number.
E
So
it
was
a
figure
that
we
just
we
just
as
was
discussed
internally
and
at
that
time,
obviously,
and
the
time
that
previous
plan
permission
was
granted
that
seemed
feasible
at
that
time,
so
that
there's
actually
no
figure
in
policy
or
no
figure
that
they
can
accept
in
regards
to
the
threshold
and
after
that
threshold
it
must
be
put
in
place.
It's
just
true
to
this
discussion
and
the
size
of
the
development
and
where
we
are.
A
E
There
are
objections
immediately
above
the
western
side
of
the
the
application
site
and
we
have
opened
opposing
enforcement
kievs
ourselves
just
to
ensure
and
have
a
discussion
discussion
with
the
ni
water
to
make
sure
that
the
training
assessment
is
put
in
place
is
as
approved
and
that
that
is
ongoing,
hey.
But
under
this
application-
and
we
can't
you'll-
probably
see
from
the
report
that
one
of
the
previous
applications
we
approved
was
to
ensure
that
the
the
sewage
system
and
anti-water
are
exactly
in
place.
E
So
it
was-
and
you
know,
city
at
the
time
right.
The
site
visited
along
that
boundary
and
but
they're
saying
they
can
get
smells
et
cetera.
She'll
want
to
actually
have
discussion
with
dna,
water
and
the
environmental
health.
The
next
year
is.
Is
that
the
case
and
it's
obviously
from
the
cm
from
the
same
applicant.
A
Yeah-
and
I
mean
the
only
reason
I
know
previously
going
back-
a
number
of
years
have
been
somewhere
with
am
sewage
and
florida
and
malaphone,
so
it
was
just
I
don't
know
it's
quite
close
by
so
it
was
just
to
get.
You
know,
content
without
clarity.
The
council's
you
know
being
proactive
in
that
regard.
So
that's
that's
good
to
know
any
other
comments.
A
I
members
see
any
sort
of
movement
of
debate
phase,
I
suppose,
from
your
own
perspective,
more
content.
After
hearing
what
you
need
saying
for
I
know
you
know
we
we
are
bind
in
terms
of
you
know
the
material
we're
going
to
consider,
but
I
know
when
an
objection
comes
in
was
want
to
be
sure
that,
and
people's
concerns
are
are
heard.
So
I'm
more
content.
The
council
is
taking
that
proactive
step
along.
A
You
know
the
issue
of
of
siege
and
I
guess
incumbent
on
us
to
to
to
do
our
judy
in
that
regard
and
on
you
know,
protect
residents
and
not
and
not
respect
any
other
comments.
Members,
mr
salvage.
D
It's
not
a
thank
you,
sir.
I
would
agree
with
everything
you
said
there
and
I
think
the
fact
that
there's
a
condition
on
it
that
it
has
to
be
started
before
the
25th
of
august
2025
gives
it
builder
sometime
to
and
play
with
it,
and
also
ensures
that
it's
actually
done
so
we'll
probably
just
watch
this
video
see
what
happens
so.
I've
agreed
with
to
say
sure
I
think
it's
a
reasonable
enough
request
at
this
time.
A
Thank
you.
I
am
many
other
proposals
for
these.
I
don't
see
any
lights
on
so
well
proceed
down
on
my
pierces
to
appendix
12.
trudy
is
I'm
sorry,
christopher
nicholson.
A
Yeah,
that's
noted
so
at
this
point,
trudy
you're
free
to
give
your
president.
U
Thank
you
chair.
This
application
is
before
you
this
evening,
as
the
application
was
submitted
by
the
armada
city
townscape
heritage
initiative,
the
content
details
were
given
as
an
officer
within
the
council
and
planning
officers
have
therefore
taken
the
view
that
the
application
was
submitted
by
her
on
behalf
of
the
council.
U
Recently
heritage
lottery
funding
was
allowed,
the
teapot
to
be
restored,
and
in
march
2020,
this
committee
approved
the
erection
of
the
teapot
and
the
front
elevation
of
property
in
russell
street.
This
permission
was
not
enacted
and
is
now
proposed
to
erect
the
teapot
on
the
front
elevation
of
the
charlemont
arms
hotel.
U
The
property
is
located
within
the
city
centre
and
the
rmi
conservation
area,
but
it
is
not
a
list
of
building.
It
is,
however,
adjacent
to
your
list
of
property
officers
in
consult
consultation
with
historic
environment
division
or
the
opinion
that
the
erection
of
the
refurbished
teapot
will
not
have
an
adverse
impact
on
the
host
building
or
any
of
the
neighboring
listed
buildings,
and
that
it
will
enhance
the
character
and
appearances
conservation
area.
U
U
So
we're
located
right
in
the
center
of
our
most
city,
that's
our
application
site
and
that's
the
aerial
photograph
output
and
that's
a
close-up
so
we're
just
opposite
the
north
side
ministerial
building
next
slide
please.
So
this
is
the
charlemagne
arms
hotel
and
it's
associated
bar
section
known
as
turner,
and
it's
the
that's
a
good
sorry
patricia
that's
a
close-up
of
it.
So
the
teapot
will
go
to
the
left.
You'll
see
an
existing
lamp
attached
to
the
third
or
the
third
floor
there
and
I'll
just
go
on
just
beneath
that
next
slide.
U
Please
so
that
that's
a
elevation
show
on
what
it'll
look
like
and
next
slide.
That's
what
it
looked
like
when
it
was
last
up
in
irma
and
scott
street,
and
that
should
be
us.
Thank
you.
A
A
Okay,
that's
a
good
response,
sir
guys,
sir
costly,
a
good
one.
Okay,
any
other
comments
or
poems.
I
will
take
puns.
No,
I
don't
see
any
I'm
seeing
any
hands
up
either.
So
we'll
move
on
to
the
debate
phase.
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
we're
we're
happy
enough
with
this
teapot,
with
the
looks
of
it
so
I'll
move
into
the
decision
phase.
G
A
A
What
spurred
you,
the
palms
there
yeah
okay,
we'll
move
on
then
to
appendix
13.
sorry
almond
bar,
are.
G
You
sure
for
bringing
men-
and
I
like
to
declare
non-binary
interest
in
the
play
park.
I
brought
council
officers
back
in
2016
2017
right
to
the
location,
to
visit
it
and
then
obviously,
subsequently
on
to
the
player
strategy,
as
well
as
the
consultation
june
covert.
So
I'm
going
to
remove
myself
from
the
I
mean.
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
Q
Thank
you,
sir.
This
application
seeks
full
planning
permission
for
the
relocation
of
a
player
part
to
a
new
site,
125
meters
north.
The
proposed
news
player
park
is
to
be
set
out
mainly
in
safety
servicing
and
porous
tiger.
Bitmap
is
proposed
to
install
a
two
meter
high
well
mesh
fence
around
the
perimeter
of
the
proposed
clear
part.
It
will
have
12
number
pieces
of
play
equipment.
It
is
also
proposed
to
install
leather
bins,
seating
and
picnic
tables.
Q
The
application
also
seeks
permission
for
works
to
protect
the
trays
and
an
exhaustive
list
of
opposed
works
to
protect.
The
trays
is
contained
in
the
schedule
of
the
proposed
tree
works
in
terms
of
the
principle
of
development.
The
application
site
is
located
within
the
settlement
limit
of
guilford,
as
defined
in
the
area
plan.
The
application
site
is
also
located
within
a
major
area
of
existing
open
space
and
is
also
located
within
a
local
landscape
policy
area
policy.
Os
one
of
pps8
states
that
development
will
not
be
permitted
will
result
in
the
loss
of
open
space.
Q
Q
The
application
site
is
located
within
the
local
landscape
policy
area
in
the
setting
of
guilford
mill.
The
features
that
contribute
to
environmental
quality,
integrity
and
character
of
the
area
or
the
river
corridor
associated
planting
and
industrial
heritage
of
the
mill
complex
officers
are
content
that
the
proposed
development
will
not
adversely
affect
the
intrinsic
environmental
value
or
character
of
the
llpa.
Q
The
proposed
site
to
be
developed
is
located
approximately
100
and
325
meters
from
guilford
mill
150
metres
from
the
river
corridor.
Officers
are
content
that
there
will
be
negative
impact
on
the
features
of
the
llpa.
In
this
regard,
officers
are
content
that
the
principal
development
is
acceptable
in
terms
of
access
and
parking.
The
application
site
seeks
full
planning
permission
for
the
relocation
of
a
player
park.
It
is
proposed
to
utilize
the
existing
access
arrangement
and
parking
provision.
Officers
in
consultation
with
dfi
roads
who
accomplished
authority
and
manners
of
road
safety
have
raised.
Q
No
objection
to
the
proposed
development
members
are
advised
that
it's
anticipated
that
a
considerable
number
of
users
will
be
local
residents
who
will
access
the
park
on
foot
or
via
the
existing
riverside
walkway
officers.
Consider
their
proposal
will
not
prejudice
road
safety
or
significantly
increase
the
flow
of
traffic,
and
therefore
it
complies
with
the
spps
policies,
amp-1
and
amp-7
of
pps3
in
terms
of
impact
and
residential
immunity.
The
closest
welling
is
located
approximately
50
meters,
east
of
the
site
at
woodlands.
Q
Obviously,
in
consultation
with
the
council's
environmental
health
department,
are
of
the
opinion
that
the
proposal
will
not
have
an
unacceptable
adverse
impact
on
the
amenities
of
people
living
nearby
in
terms
of
impact
on
the
historic
environment.
Officers,
in
consultation
with
the
historic
and
environment
division
or
of
the
opinion
of
the
post
development
is
far
enough
removed
from
the
listed
building
so
that
it
will
not
have
an
unacceptable
adverse
impact
on
their
selling
in
terms
of
impact
on
protected
trees.
Q
Woodlands
park
is
protected
by
blanket
tpo,
which
includes
the
trees
in
close
proximity
to
proposed
sight
for
the
relocated
player
park.
Officers
in
consultation
with
the
castle
tree
officer
are
content
that
the
proposed
works
to
the
trees
are
required
for
the
maintenance
and
longevity
of
the
tpu
trees,
and
also
to
minimize
the
health
and
safety
risk
posed
by
the
trees
overhanging
the
proposed
play
area
in
terms
of
nashville
heritage
considerations.
An
ecological
statement
was
submitted
in
support
of
the
application.
Q
Q
G
Q
A
D
Thanks
chern
on
thanksgiving
report,
liam
just
on
the
issues
of
the
trees,
you
know
what
an
area
is
called
woodlawns
for
a
reason
and
just
kind
of
trees.
There
any
concern
at
all
about
the
impacts
that
the
any
fallen
freezer
and
I
might
have
on
the
park
going
down
the
lane
as
the
tree
officers.
He
content
that
there's
no
discernible
safety
risk
was
the
current
location
or
was
it
it's
going.
Q
Yeah
there
were
a
number
of
recommendations
in
the
agriculturalist
report
that
was
submitted
with
the
application,
which
was
basically
to
prune
back
and
a
lot
of
the
trees,
particularly
those
ones
that
were
likely
to
be
overhanging.
They
proposed
relocated
blair
park,
so
there
are
there's
a
substantive
amount
of
what
works
to
the
existing
trees
were
proposed.
The
the
r3
obviously
looked
at
it,
and
officers
within
the
development
management
team,
looked
at
more
content
with
with
what's
been
proposed
in
terms
of
safety
and
indeed
the
protection
of
the
tpo
trees.
N
Thank
you
chairs,
and
thank
you
for
that
presentation.
My
questions
in
relation
to
cycle
stance.
I
know
previous
applications
have
come
through
committee
related
in
the
play
parts
some,
including
cycle
stance
inside
including
the
one
recently
for
karen
in
there
I
was
looking
through
the
application
document.
You
couldn't
see
a
reference
to
cycle
stance
could
then
just
confirm
whether
you
know
cycle
stands
are
considered
as
part
of
the
sub
application
or
something
that
could
be
maybe
installed
on
site
within
the
near
future.
N
I'm
just
aware
that
a
lot
of
children
would
would
cycle
to
and
from
play
parts,
and
sometimes
the
bikes
can
end
up
scattered,
rather
than
maybe
parked
up
in
cycle
stands
if
they're
available.
So
just
that
that
query
on
cycle
stance,
chair.
Q
Okay,
now
no
counselor
larry
there
was
there's
nothing
within
the
context
of
the
application
that
proposes
cycle
cyclistance
in
this
case.
So
no
there's
there's
nothing
that
has
been
proposed.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
chairman
thanks
liam
and
liam.
Obviously,
thanks
for
your
presentation,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
here
in
relation
to
this,
and
I
know
you
said
that,
obviously
it's
impossible,
it
is
surrounded
by
houses.
There's
a
lot
of
how
you
know.
People
in
those
houses
would
be
using
this.
H
It
is
a
substantial
player
park,
it's
20
meters
by
25,
it's
quite
big
in
the
context
and
just
clarify
how
many
car
parking
spaces
are
available
close
to
the
the
player
park,
because
in
my
experience
parents
like
to
drive
to
the
actual
edge
of
the
play
park
and
if
you've
got
a
young
child,
you
know
it
would
could
be
left
in
the
car
where
an
elder
brother
or
sister's
playing
and
therefore
they
keep
an
eye
on
the
car.
So
that
was
my
experience.
I've
had
with
with
you
know,
play
a
part.
H
One
of
the
better
ones
I
would
say
in
in
in
some
other
player
parts
in
in
the
area,
but
just
the
thought
process
in
that
liam
and
the
other
thing
is:
what's
the
plans
for
the
existing
player
park.
You
know
because,
obviously,
look
at
the
photographs-
it's
you
know
it's
a
grass
or
if
surrounded
by
fencing
is
there
is
a
plans
for
anything
to
do
with
that.
So
thank
you.
Thanks
john.
Q
Yeah
constance,
the
the
way
the
car
park
is
at
the
present
time
it
doesn't
have
designated
car
parking
spaces,
it's
just
an
area
of
hard
standing,
so
we
don't
have
a
specific
number
in
terms
of
available
car
parking
spaces.
Suppose
the
thought
process
behind
the
application
was
there
was
an
existing
player
park
there
and
we're
replacing
that
with
a
new
one
and
when
we
consulted
with
dfi
roads,
we
felt
that
the
existing
car
parking
provision
that
was
available
on
the
site
wasn't
going
to
be
diminished
and
was
acceptable
for
the
car
park
as
proposed.
Q
I
suppose,
in
terms
of
the
the
existing
play
park,
that's
there
and
what's
happening
to
it.
Basically,
it's
going
to
be
grassed
over
again
and
just
returned
to
a
grass
in
formal
grass
area.
It
will
become
again
open
space
as
part
of
the
wetter
sort
of
woodlands,
area,
of
open
space.
H
Yeah
thank
thanksgiving
for
that
and
I
suppose
I
I
do
agree
with
your
your
sort
of
summary,
but
this
player
part
is
maybe
twice
the
size
of
the
ones
existing.
If
you
don't
I'm
just
I'm,
I'm
not
sort
of
saying
that
it
won't,
but
my
experience
just
that
when
you
build
something
of
this
scale,
they'll
come
from
everywhere
to
go
to,
and
the
last
thing
we
want
is
create.
You
know
a
problem
in
that
area
with
parking,
and
you
know
yourself:
it'll
be
the
the
guildford
countries
where
you'll
be
getting
it
in
in
the
years.
H
N
Yeah,
thank
you
church.
It's
good
to
come
back
in
on
on
the
cycle.
Stand
question
for
liam.
Is
that
something
that
could
be
dealt
with
at
the
stage
via
condition
or
is
that
something
that
would
just
have
to
be
considered,
and
you
know
by
the
player
team
there
after
they
want
to
carry
out
a
you
know.
Minor
upgrade.
Is
this
something
we
can
sort
out
this
stage,
because
I
do
think
new
cycle
sounds
would
be
useful
at
all
player
parts
and
has
been
made
reference.
N
You
know
this
would
be
a
bigger
one
and
would
probably
be
well
used
by
kids
of
the
wider
guilford
area,
and
so
liam
could
just
provide
some
clarity
as
to
how,
if
members
are
inclined
that
the
cycle
stands
are
needed,
while
this
could
be
something
resolved
at
this
meeting
or
what
attack.
Q
All
right,
yeah,
council
lobby,
there's
there's
nothing
in
in
the
proposal
as
things
sound
at
the
moment
for
the
cycle
stance,
as
I've
said,
I
mean
it
wasn't
part
of
the
the
strategy
that
was
submitted
as
part
of
the
application.
I
suppose,
if,
if
the
council,
I
don't
think
we
could
deal
with
that
by
way
of
a
condition
in
terms
of
this
plan
on
application.
Q
A
Yeah,
I
suppose
that's
something
you
can.
You
could
probably
raise.
You
know
I'd
say
to
this
committee
and
maybe
within
the
leisure
format
and
in
terms
of
any
additional
facilities
or
proposals
around
the
actual
offering
that
is
on
site
or
supposed
to
be
on
site
in
in
guilford
and
any
other
comments.
Numbers.
O
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
yes,
this
is
much
welcome.
I
think
anybody
can
see
from
the
presentation
here
with
the
existing
player
park.
I
call
it
player
park
and
the
loosest
sense
of
the
word.
It's
an
awful
state
of
repair-
and
this
this
I'm
sure
will
be
most
welcome-
understand
concerns
obviously
with
parking
but
having
a
few
meetings
with
residents
on
the
site
over
a
few
different
models.
O
There's,
I
think,
there's
potential
there
for
to
address
any
parking
issues
or
possibly
cycle
stones
and
everything
there's
plenty
of
potential
there
in
the
future
that
we
could
look
up,
but
this
application-
and
hopefully
approval
is,
I
think,
is
most
welcome.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
chair
on
just
like
liam
gives
a
very
comprehensive
report
like
the
area
where
woodlands
is
located,
the
topography
doesn't
land
itself
well
and
they've
done
plenty
of
work
and
ensuring
that
they've
looked
at
everything
in
relation
to
the
state.
You
know
they
take
on
board
kaiser
nicholson's
point
about
parking,
but
in
the
terms
of
the
play
scheme,
this
is
a
local
park.
So
hopefully
that
that
will
not
be
an
issue
you
know
most
residents
in
guilford
will
probably
walked
it.
D
I'm
not
so
sure
you
know
it
would
not
be
on
the
scale
of
gosford
solitude
or
scarborough.
Possibly
so
I
think
you
know,
maybe
it
will
just
be
people
on
foot
or
kids
on
banks,
so
you
know
in
terms
of
cancer
libraries,
point
about
that
backstage.
You
know,
that's
something
that
can
be
like
like
that,
going
forward.
I
think,
as
the
community
our
minded
to
previous
application.
D
You
know
with
something
that
they
got
moving
quickly
as
oliver
barr
said
before
he
left,
you
know,
he's
been
lobbying
for
it
since
2016
and
all
the
bomb
bridge
councillors,
I'm
sure,
have
been
lobbied
over
the
years
to
get
to
the
stage.
So
you
know
I
very
much
welcomed
that
application
and
hopefully
the
recommendation
will
be
endorsed
by
the
councillors.
Thank
you
sure.
H
Yeah,
look
thanks.
Chairman
look.
I
just
want
to
make
my
comments
noted
and
I'm
happy
enough,
like
I
think
as
as
as
a
scheme,
it's
part
of
an
overall
strategy
with
the
council,
which
again
has
you
know,
sort
of
refurbed
or
replaced
so
many
play
parks
all
over
the
area
for
for
the
community
benefit.
In
particular,
you
know
it's
great
to
see
so
many
pieces
of
accessible
equipment,
and
this
is
something
that
you
know.
H
We
maybe
don't
see
as
much
in
some
of
the
player
parts
to
come
through
this
committee,
but
I
have
to
say
I
welcome
there's,
there's,
there's
three
or
four
fully
accessible
and
pieces
of
equipment,
which
obviously
will
be
a
delight
to
my
colleague,
councillor
floggery,
so
and
and
obviously
all
all
those
parents
and
things
that
obviously
want
to
be
able
to
to
benefit
from
this
this
facility.
So
I
I
think
it's
you
know
it's
fantastic,
fantastic
for
guilford.
You
know
and
and
as
I
say,
I'm
I
was
only
making
the
point
of
my
experience.
H
A
Thank
you,
councillor
lavery
and
then
christopher
cosby.
N
N
Certainly,
I
think
that
the
issue
cycle
stance
is
something
that
can
be
taken
forward
and
that's
just
going
to
be
in
the
apartment,
making
sure
all
play
parts
in
the
bar
have
safe
cycle
access,
so
can
take
that
forward
at
a
you
know
a
further
stage,
but
I'd
certainly
be
content
to
support
the
previous
chair.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
it
would
be
remiss
of
me
because
I
know
that
this
has
been
lobbied
on
for
some
time,
particularly
as
part
of
the
play
strategy.
I'd
be
particularly
remiss
of
me
not
to.
C
Mention
our
earlier
friend
former
older
man,
junior
mccrum,
who
raised
this
issue
on
many
occasions,
and
I
knew
this
was
one
of
the
projects
that
he
would
have
been
delighted
to
see
through,
and
that
wasn't
to
be.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
record,
but
just
to
say,
look
from
my
perspective.
C
Looking
at
guilford
guilford
still
sits
within
the
department
for
communities
areas
at
risk
programme
as
in
receipt
of
money's,
acknowledging
that
there
are
challenges
in
guilford,
and
that
is
at
times
to
do
deprivation,
health
inequalities
and
all
of
those
things
as
well,
and
this
scheme
is
a
way
to
help
bring
a
facility
and
make
a
good
quality
accessible
play
facilities
available
to
children.
Young
people
on
families
in
the
area,
with
good
lengths
along
the
river
river,
walk
there
and
accessible
in
terms
of
a
short
walk
from
substantial
areas
of
buildup
housing.
C
A
D
L
O
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Yes
hobby
to
seconds
our
proposal,
this
will
be
most
welcome.
Thank
you.
A
S
This
planning
application
seeks
to
discharge
condition:
17
of
plan
approval
lawyer,
2021
1467
f,
which
was
granted
approval
for
72
residential
units
at
the
danery
in
arma
condition.
17
of
plan
approval,
elevate,
2021,
1467,
f
states,
no
defilement
activity,
including
ground
preparation
or
vegetation
clearance,
which
will
take
place
until
the
construction
and
environmental
management
plan
camp
has
been
submitted
to
and
approved
and
written
by,
the
plan
authority.
S
The
reason
was
to
protect
northern
ireland,
priority
habitats
and
species
and
residential
immunity.
So
this
application
is
required
to
go
before
the
platinum
committee,
as
is
seeking
to
discharge
the
condition
of
a
major
planning
application.
So
officers
have
taken,
the
members
have
read
their
port
in
full,
and
this
is
a
synopsis
only
so
condition.
17
was
suggested
by
the
natural
environment
division
of
daira.
S
In
addition,
the
condition
was
also
deemed
necessary
to
protect
the
residential
amenity
of
neighboring
properties
in
support
of
this
plan,
application
at
camp
has
been
provided
as
discussed
in
detail
in
the
reports.
Officers
consider
that
the
camp
has
sufficiently
provided
detail
and
recent
each
element
of
condition.
S
17.,
remember
surprised
that
deer
were
consulted
regarding
the
camp
and
both
the
water
management
unit
and
natural
refinement
division
advised
that
their
content
for
condition
17
to
be
discharged
so
based
on
this,
the
recommendations
from
water
management
unit
on
natural
environment,
division
and
officers
haven't
considered
the
contents
of
the
camp
or
of
the
opinion
that
the
obligations
condition
17
have
been
met
in
the
submission
and
therefore
recommend
that
condition.
17
is
discharged.
S
Okay,
we
don't
have
a
presentation
for
this
application.
A
Okay,
thanks
kale
yeah,
okay
members.
Basically,
if
I
want
another
presentation,
so
I'll
move
straight
to
any
questions
you
have
for
okay
on
this
one,
any
specific
queries
don't
see
any
so
that
basis,
I
know,
do
you
move
quickly
through
discharges
at
times
to
be
it?
I
need
to
be
at
any
views.
Members,
I'm
not
detecting
any
my
basis
will
move
to
a
decision
nicholson.
H
Yeah
chairman,
thank
you
and
thanks
ken
to
the
report
again
very
detailed
and
pretty
straightforward,
I'm
happy
to
propose
the
recommendation
sean.
Thank
you.
A
S
This
application
seeks
to
discharge
condition:
five
of
planned
approval
law
at
2021,
1467,
f,
a
which
is
again
inside
the
dainry
and
arma
472
residential
units,
so
condition.
5
stated
the
construction
of
the
development
approved
hearing
should
not
commence
until
a
hard
and
soft
landscape.
An
open
space
management
and
maintenance
plan
has
been
submitted
to
and
approved
by,
the
council.
The
plan
shall
set
out
the
period
of
the
plan,
long-term
objectives,
management
responsibilities,
performance
measures
and
maintenance
schedules
of
all
areas
of
landscaping
and
open
space.
S
S
A
management
and
maintenance
plan
for
areas
open
space
and
the
draft
transfer
date
for
prospective
purchasers
of
the
development
have
been
provided.
Officers
have
considered
the
contents
based
documents
and
are
satisfied
that
the
implementation
of
these
documents
will
ensure
the
provision
of
the
open
space
and
their
management
and
maintenance
and
perpetuity,
as
required
by
condition
five.
So
officers
are
for
the
opinion
that
publications
of
condition
five
have
been
made
in
submission
and
recommend
that
a
condition
5
is
discharged.
A
H
S
A
H
Yeah
chairman,
thank
you
again
detailed
report
explaining,
obviously
that
the
reason
for
it
in
front
of
the
committee,
so
I'm
happy
to
approve
trauma.
So
thank
you.
A
E
A
O
Wilson,
I
am
happy
to
propose
recommendation.
Mr
chairman.
A
A
Based
on
that,
that
concludes
our
schedule,
application,
so
we're
in
fairly
good
time.
Six
o'clock,
so
I
wish
is
all
a
safe
journey
home
when
I'll
see
you
all
next
month,
we'll
just
have
the
live.
Feed
stop
at
this
phase.