Ascension Parish, Louisiana Board of Adjustments, 27 Sep 2023

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Board of Adjustments - September 27, 2023

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We call the order the September 27th 2023 meeting of the board of adjustments. uh First off we do a roll call of members, Mr Brian cber here, Mr Jake, Joe FR, here Mr Devin Graham, here Mr Brandon, Bennett.

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And tonight absent of Mr uh Willie and uh Mr Eddie.

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um All right next up, we have anybody, have any any comments for for or against the board of adjustments, we're open for public comments. Nobody close public comments uh entertain a motion to accept the minutes of the July 27 2023 meeting a motion motion by Mr Brandon. Second, second, by Mr Brian, all in favor motion, passes next I'll accept the motion for acceptance of the written decisions for the July 27th 2023 meeting make a motion on that motion by Mr Jake second, by Mr Devin.

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All in favor motion passes next, we have uh first up tonight zoning review, ID pz 32532 three lot 3A for Mr Biff font. Anybody here to represent that nobody here here represent I'm, not representing him but I'm, the neighor of this property. Okay, all right! So you we we're going to call you up in a minute for public comment. um Well, probably real soon: CU yeah.

C

If you want to say anything, though, make sure you come up in.

A

Yeah I saw you: did you fill out a car with Miss Jamaica? Does anybody have anything to say during a public comment period, uh go see, Miss, Jamaica and sign either a red or a green card. If you want to come up and speak or if you're, just for or against it, you don't have to speak. So you want to do that right.

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Now, uh okay, so we got any questions.

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Comments I like to go to Lance just since why's here. If he can tell us something about it uh outside of what's written.

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Yeah, uh basically, the owner of the applicant is requesting a variance of the minimum lot size. uh The lot size minimum is half acre, I believe yeah, it's a half acre and um he's requesting uh variance of the the lot Frontage and also the lot size. um The lot size now is I believe um 82.

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Yeah and minimum would have to be an acre to cut in half cut in. uh You know to split it in half and the minimum L size. Frontage is um 100 ft and he has 176 so he's requesting a varant to reduce the the frontage, along with the minimum L size.

D

Okay, yeah I guess this little sketch with The Greening was kind of.

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Kind of confusing, but.

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But that's what he's requesting requesting Frontage and lot.

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Size I think as I understand it he's requesting a variance to subdivide the lot, not not just to put a another residence there correct.

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Correct he's asking to create a new another lot out of this one, uh to create uh one additional line.

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All right, any other questions for opening for public comment.

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Pl, if, if they do this the existing, if they do it, the existing U mobile home, that's on there wouldn't be within the setbacks, either right.

E

Well, he'd have to make sure whenever they created that that line that it would have to be within the setback.

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It's not shown on here.

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It's going to be close, he'd have to meet 10t, but if not, then he'd have to come back to answer. You question I, don't know where the line is in reference to this. It was basically stated at the beginning. You know to find out where that was so to make sure that when he does split it in half that it's not going to be, you know too close to the to the existing structure.

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So I don't know exactly where that is, but he'd have to be at least 10 feet from it when he would create that line. If it would be accepted.

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Wouldn't know that till the survey went out there, that's correct a line. Other questions. Okay, we open up for public comment. Ma'am you can. Oh. Does she not want.

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To comment she's good, she doesn't want.

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Okay, do did she.

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Sign explain it to her: what was what he wanted.

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So she she's okay.

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She didn't sign a card or okay.

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Okay against it.

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She didn't say so like is not there and m y. So any questions comments.

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Yeah well close public comment.

D

I mean I I'll, say that I, don't think, add more in Santa mall. That area specifically I mean that's. Isn't. Is that part of that new zoning are we? Are we encroaching on that area.

E

No sir right outside of it yeah it's out of it.

D

um Yeah I mean we're actually creating a lot versus just adding a trail like we normally I, don't want to use the word normally or set of presence, but it's not the normal situation that we would see. It's actually creating a lot, which is a forever deal and uh there's no way really really to represent it. So I'm, not I'm, not person.

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Yeah I I agree with that. A motion.

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Make discussion before I motion.

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We have a little more discussion, I think you're, right and I agree that uh I wouldn't like to see a lot, especially this small in this area created. But if there was a hardship where his son had to put a trailer there, because he had nowhere else to put it that that's a different story and he would if he chooses to come back before the board and ask for that.

D

I'll go back 16. This was if I remember right. This is more your area, that's a pretty affected area by 16 right.

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Oh yeah I know there's some.

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Trailers out there that haven't ever been cleaned up, fixed, tore down or sold.

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Right, yeah that.

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Got some water in them.

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Correct y, any other.

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Questions motions.

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I'll make a motion to deny written.

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Second motion to deny by Devin second by Brandon, all in favor any oppos hearing none motion is declined or variance is declined. I'm! Sorry! Next up we have uh zoning review, ID pz 32542 three lot: 54 Oaks on the bluff for Mike and Jennifer Delma delier delier. Sorry, that's a tough one!.

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I'm Tom Klein Peter, representing Mike and Jennifer, um to build the outdoor kitchen we're trying to get a a rear setback, variance to come up a little more. So we can build an outdoor kitchen by the pool.

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Mr CLE Peter you're their Builder.

G

Yes, sir box K Builders.

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My question was: okay, good um I, just yeah from a drainage standpoint, we're obviously encroach into the drainage. So how will this affect? You know anything.

G

We're we're not going to encroach into the drainage servitude uh that lot drains front and back splits about half front half back um the same amount of water is going to go to. The back is the front we're not impeding on any drainage there.

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M is that ditch back there or just a servitude.

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There's a ditch, there's a swell.

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Between the houses, yes,.

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Yeah, it's a 15t drainage servitude and it splits half to his neighbor and half to yeah, but you're, not you're, not.

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Even getting in the servitude much.

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Yeah was that was my biggest.

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Any other questions before I open before public.

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Comment: okay, we open it for public comment. Miss Jamaica anybody sign up. No one signed up. No one signed up we'll close a public comment. Questions discussion, motion, I know. Normally, in this situation like this Mr Klein Peter, we usually do not like to exceed 50% of of the setback. Would it would it work for you at 50%, which would be 10 ft instead of that.

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Wouldn't work for us no there's.

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House with uh that is kind of got the same thing we're doing here on the street behind us, so we're just kind of wanting the same thing. We need that much to make this a usable space.

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Do you have do you have the map.

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Do you have the.

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Map in front of.

C

You, which one exactly is their house cuz I, see two pools lot. 54.

G

Do you have this map yeah no I got it. I, don't have that map I have the uh plat map here. If you need it.

C

Yeah I see it now, I didn't see, I didn't realize the blue, oh.

D

Yeah, oh Lance I'll, give you I'll give yeah this swell. Is it kind of like a cover box? Does it have the boxes in it draining to the pond, or is it just an open swell.

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I believe it's I believe it's open. Is it open CL.

G

Peter, it's open, there's no.

D

There's no drain point to a box cover to go back to retention.

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None that I've seen and it's a it's a swell so.

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I see the fences and all don't go by that line. Okay, go by this, so he's not I know how, but.

G

Goes into the ground: okay,.

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There is a pipe.

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It goes in the ground two houses down, there's a catch Basin.

D

Yeah I remember doing houses I thought they had catch basins that went through the overall system. Not just a you know like we did.

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25 years ago,.

C

How how does the the existing pool and the pool next to I mean there's three pools? We're looking at I mean.

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Affect the drainage, you got five.

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Yeah I'm just looking same lock side as he as them, they're, not within the uh from looking at it they're, not within the uh servitude, the pools themselves, you got to look the lines aren't correct on.

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The areial, so the line works.

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Just not right so.

C

So the the Pao that you're wanting to build um is going to extend beyond where the I guess the concrete ends for your pool. No, it's going to be in line with the in line with it. Yeah, oh okay, okay,.

G

That line wrong, then what.

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Yeah yeah wrong.

G

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Yeah, the the line is is is wrong.

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Maybe you know.

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Is that is that a fence between him and his rear neighbor? That.

G

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That's in the drainage, servitude, yeah.

G

That's in the drainage, servitude, yeah.

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Oh okay, imagine.

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And I think I already know this answer, but there's nothing else back here right, just the drainage, there's, no other servitudes.

G

There's no utilities.

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No and we're not going into the drainage servitude.

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We're coming up.

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Coming up to the.

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Ed yeah I like to negotiate it. If you could cuz I just come through one day, maybe tomorrow, maybe 100 years, somebody going to need to clean that drainage, they're going to need to rip those fences down, I think anything else and I grant granted. I do understand that you're not going in the Serv to but I. Think. One of the reasons we like doing those setbacks is for Extra Protection for the parish.

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uh If they ever need to get equipment in there and I Steve said about the 50%, that's one I've always been a big fan of myself. um You said: there's no leg way there for y'all.

G

Not not for we've cut it down as much as we could.

D

We Lance y'all y'all's recommendation. Is there, do you have any reasons.

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Basically, for the reasons that you stated earlier.

C

How does how does that happen that they have those all the fences like? How does that it.

E

Happens, we didn't, we don't have well at the time we didn't have fence permits or anything like that. We do now.

A

Yep I don't think there was an ordinance, then either no sir, that was.

E

Not now it's stated on the plat that there shouldn't be any fences in there right right. Nobody.

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Reads a plat except me and Eric po.

G

Gentlemen, I don't think this structure would impede any equipment that would need to get back there. um There's plenty of access around behind through the side. The fence I think, would be the the biggest obstacle we already have a pool there, so you can't go over the pool I.

C

Understand what if we were I mean there's no no room to make it within you know so to do a Ser variance of say, 10t. He said.

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It was even even yeah the drawing is not showing it. Even drawing is not showing that's what I.

D

Was this one, this yeah yeah I think I think they just got the hole drawn, not the concrete of the it's just a hole. Another the apron.

G

There should have been a plat map submitted, I have a copy. If you need it.

D

Yeah we have some stuff up here.

A

It doesn't show the we got plat map, okay,.

A

So on this plat map, it appears that the the proposed patio is extending beyond the pool, and you saying it's going to be even with the edge of the pool.

G

No, that was drawn incorrectly it. It is even with the pool.

D

Yeah, it's not showing the apron of the pool, it's just showing the hole of the pool.

G

No, it's actually going to yeah it's going to be in line with the concrete for the pool.

D

Okay, that's so another 3T four feet for concrete after the pool.

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Yeah public: no, it's.

C

Done wait so, if I'm hearing that correctly, the concrete's going to go even further.

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No, the concrete.

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In other words, it's not showing this concrete right here which would be on this Edge yep y okay I got that that's what I'm gathering right.

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To be able to extend over the 50% okay.

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Let me just we did do public or not. Yes, I'm.

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I'm not 100 today, I mean I. Would.

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Make a motion to do the 50%.

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That would be 10 foot, so we.

G

10 foot I'm not sure if that's going to help them at all, but.

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Other than to deny it: okay, okay, so we have a motion on the table for uh 10- foot, variance versus the 12 and A2 a second.

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Second, by Mr Brian, all in favor I, yes, um 10 foot variance is granted.

G

Thank you guys thank.

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Thank you all right get my bearing straight here all right. Next on the agenda. Do we have any old business.

E

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Do we have any new business? No, sir Spencer, you ain't got no new business.

E

For my, my button doesn't work.

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But no business all right next I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

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Motion by Mr Brandon, second by Devin, all in favor ajour.