Ascension Parish, Louisiana Board of Adjustments, 27 Jul 2022

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Board of Adjustments Meeting - July 27, 2022

A

Hi welcome to the board of adjustments meeting july 27 2022., I heard somebody's phone ringing might want to turn our ring is off okay. Thank you.

A

No problem uh roll caller members, mr jake joffrey on brother, mr eddie krauss, mr devin, graham and I'm president steve joe farrell jr absent, is mr brandon bennett and uh mr willie robinson. uh Next. I entertain a motion to accept the minutes of may 24th 2022 meeting. Let's.

B

Make a motion motion.

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By eddie krause, a second second by jake joe frown all in favor aye motion, passes next I'll. Entertain a motion to accept the written decisions of the may 24th.

C

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By jake, joe ferran, second, by devin, graham all in favor motion, passes.

A

Oh, I did, I sure, did a little bit of public comments if anybody has anything for against the board of adjustments.

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Nobody close public comment. uh First up tonight we have was owner review id pz2866.22.

A

For amanda bateman anybody here to speak on this matter, okay, all right! You want to step on up and and tell us what you got going on here.

D

Please so the only thing I'm trying to do is to push the mic huh speaking.

A

Of mic right there.

D

I'm trying to move a trailer behind my house, um I have four and a half acres and it will be for my cousin.

D

How old is she 35, and she has two kids single parent, mom and dad's, both deceased.

A

Okay, all right any questions or comments for miss amanda.

A

Anybody sign up for public comment on this. No.

E

One signed up.

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Questions comments, motion.

C

Doing this yeah, so richardson cemetery, I've been out there in a while is that gravel little road is like a little gravel road? Is it did the parish ever pave it? It's not.

D

A paris road is it, it is it's blacktopped up until the house, but from the house to the cemetery. Is this.

C

Grass yeah all right, I don't know if it was a parish. It's.

F

A pasture it's narrow, but it is a password. Okay,.

C

So randomly actually is but they're not saying you got to do this. Could a lot have been created off that road with special circumstances or anything.

F

A

Yeah they couldn't do a reason, a simple division or something well.

F

It depends how far back the the property, although the uh right-of-way goes to the to the property or to the property she's trying to split off so.

A

Okay, so ms braden, where are you wanting to put this trailer.

D

So when you're going down like towards the cemetery, all the way to the back to the left,.

G

D

It's a little over half an acre. I think right. There yeah.

A

So it's so it's it definitely looks like it would be outside correct.

F

It would be outside the right way on the stop before the past maintained. That's.

C

Why I didn't understand exactly where it ended, because I knew it went to grass basically and by the way, let me just I wasn't saying it created a lot. I was only asking if case a future ever occurred. There.

A

But yeah so we're actually not creating a lot here. No.

C

No, no, I was only just asking if it ever needed to occur anything like that yeah. It should.

G

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C

As far as we're accessible, then, as far as the home sits, I know it's going to sit on that northeast corner, that little triangle more or less. Is that what you're saying? Okay? Oh? What's the flooding situation like there? Do you know the elevation or how how high the home would have to be.

D

um We already had it shot. I do I mean it's pretty high, I don't know exactly. Okay,.

C

I'm only asking just for information, I'm all the other concern would be uh making sure emergency can get to it or handle anything that may occur. That's what it is. I'm asking you don't worry, I don't have to drive through a little low swamp or anything. Oh.

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C

And apparently I just like asked some questions, but y'all.

F

Require setbacks and things like that, what she will and requirements uh for elevation and permitting.

A

Mrs bateman, have you already purchased a mobile home.

D

A

Yeah, okay, so you already you already own this thing all right just need to. Please put it! That's.

D

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G

Emotion, well, it sounds like she's met pretty much, I'm gonna meet pretty much of what she's had so I'm gonna make a motion to it.

A

Motion about jake joe ferrano approved. Can I get a second second second by eddie cross in the opposition, your bearing says granted. Thank you. Thank you very much.

A

Okay: next up, we have zoning review id pz287122 for ascension parish school board. Anybody here represent that okay, would you step up the mic? Tell us what you.

H

Hey my name is louis, I'm with csrs representing ascension parish school board, so we are asking for a variance for the uh do. You have the powerpoint okay, a variance for the student parking lot to be considered for limestone gravel. Instead of concrete, it's a brand new school that we're developing right. Now, it's about 330 000 square feet.

H

It's designed to have every amenity that every other school has a full science lab special ed academic packet, and you can flip to the next page.

H

Oh me, me sorry,.

H

All right, so the highlighted area on the top left of the screen is the area that we're talking about again. It's the student parking lot.

H

Ascension parish has been able to um to have this variance at their other schools. um I think you know a comment will be made that I think dutch town is the only school that has a neighborhood. That's um you know just next to it. The school became was there before the the neighborhood. So I think that's one comment that will be made.

H

What we're doing and what ascension peer school board does. Is they apply this product called no dust or rhino snot? It's a it's a product. It's a salt based product. That's spread on there to minimize the dust. As you can see in this design, we have a concrete drive around the entire parking lot.

H

We have a grass barrier on the north side and then we have a shrub or grass and shrub there on the south side, but we just didn't present it that way to the variance board. We could consider moving that landscaping buffer to the north side to help mitigate that problem. That people may have with the dust.

H

Let's see and I'll go to the next one, so this is the landscaping plan. So again on the north side, it's just the gravel or the grass, the median it's about 30 feet that separates the gravel area. To that concrete drive on the north side and then on the south side, you can see those trees on that landscaping plan. So again we just didn't present it.

H

That way I didn't want to, and we've been talking to some of the neighbors- and I just didn't want to respond and say we were going to do that because, because that's not how we submitted it to you guys, but that's something that we could consider moving to help just mitigate that dust problem.

H

And that is that we submitted um the the sm or msds sheets on the the calcium, sulfite or chloride product. Again, it's a salt based product. It's not hazardous unless consumed in large amounts just like any other product. This is at every every high school on their student parking lot.

H

They apply it once or twice a year, just based on the manufacturer and based on the sub base, we're not changing the use of the building. um You know again, our main request to do this. Is uh the taxpayers entrusted central school board to deliver a school with all the construction market increases?

H

um This is you know, one area that we were trying to save so that we could put it back into the building. You know ensure that we have again those athletic facilities, the science labs just like every other school in the parish and again this matches uh the other three high schools at um in the parish and uh and that's it unless anyone has any questions. Am I having a question for him.

G

I've got a couple here steve. uh Could you explain to me your your I'm sorry yeah.

G

Did you explain to me your hardship again while you're here asking for that.

A

Instead of doing a concrete asphalt, yeah type thing.

G

Because uh calcium chloride, with the sds.

I

uh I'm not sure if you read through that sds sheet but, like you said it could be environmentally uh tasking.

G

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G

Issues with that.

H

So uh our hardship, our original uh design budget for this project was 68 million dollars, and so, with the recent um construction market increases, everything has gone up about 30 40 percent, so we've been trying to we've reduced a lot of things on this campus things that people, hopefully don't ever see, so that the experience could be the same to go back to concrete it's about two to three million dollars just for the size of this um add to the project which again we're already um you know at our budget or have exceeded our budget, but uh within the available funds for construction.

H

So we're asking for this variance for, for that reason, and it doesn't um stray from the other high schools, and then you had mentioned the um the you know the the hazardous of this. If you look on page three of six, um you know talks about the chemical stability is stable, incapable materials is nine hazards decomposition products, none under normal use.

H

Everything is sort of in these normal standards. Again any of these products you know, consumed at a high level. um You know have some standard, but again a central bar school board. Hires environmental engineers make sure everything sort of checks off we'd be willing to look at other materials other products. But do you have a report on that.

G

Environmental from ascension parish, the engineers on.

H

It I can uh yeah, I can. I can give you a list of the engineers. Is that your report on that I'm not on this product, but I can get one I can get chris white with uh when white engineers is our is ascension parishes, environmental engineering and you say, and you.

G

Would be uh up for using different products other than calcium chloride,.

H

Yeah I mean, I think our our main goal with with a product is to ensure that the dust um is you know, does not upset the neighbors. It sounds.

G

Like you guys over budget, is that kind of your hardship where you're coming to today trying to figure.

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G

Yes, sir- and this was the only.

A

G

That you guys came up with was.

A

There any other solutions to cut back.

H

uh There's uh just in this area, yes, I mean um we had considered doing the whole thing limestone, but um you know we just didn't think that would be fair and we thought that this was actually the best solution. Again, it's a concrete drive around the entire parking area and then again you kind of see everything in gray uh on the screen to the left or, actually let me go back to the highlighted again. That's the area that we're keeping or requesting to stay in limestone one resolution just going back to that landscaping plant again.

H

On that south side, we have a row of shrubs in the median and we'd be willing to move that to that north side to just help filter any concerns. If uh you know, if we feel like the product isn't working at least that's another level of barrier to the neighborhood, so the bushes you put.

G

In for kind of a dust suppressant to not spread when you're putting this down, is that what you're saying.

H

No, I mean right now. If you look on that landscaping plan, we have a row of shrubs. Just on that south side, it was more just to meet the landscaping variants, but I mean we could move it to that north side to alleviate any concern that um you know if people were to uh dust up the neighborhood or dust up, the the gravel parking lot, at least that would help as a second barrier. You know again, we have two layers.

H

Now we've got this application liquid, applied application on the gravel, and then we have this landscaping bearer to help alleviate that problem.

A

Did you research into doing all the parking lots and asphalt instead of concrete.

H

As a price savings, we have we've looked at everything and again it's about a two to three million dollar difference. The way that we have it shown.

B

Can I ask, what's the different pricing, uh what is the actual total cost of actual pavement uh versus asphalt versus limestone yeah.

H

I don't have that now. I just know if we switch to concrete or grout or um asphalt would be about two to three million dollar side.

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H

A

I support a lot a lot cheaper than concrete, but I don't know I'll just build a couple roads every now and then all right.

G

So would you guys be interested in getting the price on asphalt versus this? Have you done that um we haven't? Would you.

H

Be interested in going that route uh instead of limestone or instead of concrete limestone and the.

A

Dust suppressants.

H

Yeah we could, we could look into it. um You know, and I'm just wondering if it is a resolve, I mean: if there's a way, does it have a pointer on it.

H

The center drive- I don't know if you can see on the screen, but that center drive doesn't have it is in limestone right now I mean that's something that we could consider just stripping that with concrete or asphalt as a way to you know so that it was just the areas where you're parking.

H

um You know our limestone just to help mitigate that, because I think the concern is, you know, people obviously driving by fast, causing that dust to come. The only other question I.

G

Have is, if you guys would uh are you familiar with. uh You know how the soil can erode and vegetation that.

A

This stuff will have run off and then you guys would be liable for that. You'd be interested in taking liabilities.

G

For that, if it happened to your.

A

Neighbors and your homes and businesses around you.

H

You know I'll tell you this what's different about this gravel parking lot compared to maybe the ones that have been done before is uh you know we have a professional record, that's submitted to the local jurisdiction on the seating capacity or the compaction level. I mean we feel like this system is designed, um probably a little bit better than just um you know the maintenance group going out there and just you know, compacting the soil. You know at least there's some liability on our professional records.

H

um I don't know if I could say that they would take on all liability. I just don't know if I have that authority to to say that, but.

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H

Ascension parish, obviously their client or the neighbors, their client or the people of this community they're not trying to do something to get past something to make a dollar. I mean this is really so. We can take that dollar and use it for the kids elsewhere.

B

Another question I would have would be.

B

As far as corrosion of vehicles, too, just uh do you have any information on that.

H

I don't personally, um I know if it's anything like I'm used to um I used to live up north. I know the uh you know when they saw the roads. um You know. A lot of exposure to that stuff is is not ideal by any means ideal by any means, but um I don't we haven't. I haven't heard of any students or staff complaining about that personally,.

C

I'm away from the public there's gonna be 20 questions after they speak.

A

E

He's not in support okay,.

J

Hello, you know as far as the first thing we discussed- and this is from the uh ohio vehicles- face increased safety concern due to stepped up, calcium chloride, use, and you can read this if you'd like you, let me read it to you: I can a cleveland area, auto body shops, believe the increased use of calcium chloride and noise northeast, so high of snow and ice removal is creating stepped up vehicle corrosion and attacks, critical safety components, emily hall safety manager at terrace, north coastal automotive, toll news, 5, cal state colorado, is more corrosive than the standard road salt and can damage critical, braking components.

J

Key suspension, parts and vehicle frames uh to make a long story short we're seeing more of more and more vehicles that aren't safe to drive due to profound vehicle frame corrosion.

J

uh This is what you want to spray on the parking lot next to our homes, uh number two we're not trying to be bad neighbors. Here most of us have lived there about 35 years we got nice homes, you're, trying to 650 cars in a parking lot that has no way to slow down water area. Perimeter of concrete is real nice. You still got 12 exits, that ain't going to slow, no dust down any of you ever go to dutch town on friday night for a football game.

J

Is it dust free you put this ordinance in place to protect the citizens. I would hope you do your job and deny this all we try to do is live. I spoke to mr saab before we offered no no fixes for this before this meeting tonight.

J

So the road that you see is less than 20 feet from the property line. Those kids coming out of that's gonna, be a dust storm every day. Right behind that property line, people people got swimming, pools, barbecue pits. You want barbecue in your backyard, with a dust on them. I don't all I really got. Is I asked you to do your job denied his variance it? Is you made the ordinance the parish did to protect people like us? This is our home.

J

There was no solution given before tonight's meeting. uh I respect mr saab, but his company knew dawn. Miller's meeting was coming tonight. They don't have an answer, so I respectfully requested you deny this ordinance and move on and protect our homes.

J

Anything else that I can provide I'll be glad to.

J

I left directly next to it on 9 29., I'm the first house next to it, but uh the whole rope behind us is unprotected. There's not even a bush there. The bush line that mr saab comments about is nine bushes. This is uh well over a thousand feet. Nine bushes, I'm sorry, ain't gonna do nothing!

J

There is no mediation between us, the road and the parking lot.

J

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Thank you, mr budo.

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He's not in support but does not wish to speak. I have tanya boudreau she's, not in support and does not wish to speak and jerry licensed and he's not in support and does not wish to speak. Brian leblanc is not in support and does not wish to speak wayne. Broussard is not in support and does not wish to speak. Paula phillips is not in support. He does not wish to speak.

E

Robin broussard is not in support and does not wish to speak. uh Perry gautreaux is not in support, does not wish to speak. Nancy kelly is not in support and does not wish to speak. Dylan boudreau is not in support and does not wish to speak. Shelby reader is not in support and does not wish to speak. Doug douglas is not in support and does not wish to speak.

E

Maxwell williamson is not in support and does not wish to speak. James freeder is not in support and does not wish to speak and deborah frater is not in support, but does not wish to speak, and that's it.

A

Okay, thank you guys for signing up and keeping it condensed. We all hear your voices, even though you you didn't, choose to get up and speak um all right. Any questions, motions, small talk.

G

A

Close public hearing sorry.

C

To bachelor high school in 2002, when it was open.

C

It was great, it was dusty. I mean brand new in 2004 when I graduated every football game once we got it filled, and I know what it's like to have a brand new school and not have what sam all had, because I tell you what I would rather win the cinema at that moment.

C

So I do respect your fairness and all and trying to save money for the ultimate for all of us, but for the school system as well.

K

C

Duchenne was built at a time when it was in the middle of a field, though the neighborhood that level developed later was placed later the woods behind it protected uh the neighborhood facility, florida lakes at dutch town, I think, or something and uh the family to the to the north or south. I guess yeah. Well, the family next door just had a cow pasture.

C

The dust wasn't um an issue for somebody who's been in there and their property, their investment for 35, 40 50, I mean ronda's place been around since by the 70s 80s, 80s, okay, and uh so someone and I have been alive uh so I'd hate to impact someone's investment.

C

If we don't have to- and I think there could be another solution as far as spraying, the chemical on the ground louisiana that rains every day in the last two months. I feel like that chemical will get washed away very quickly, followed by intense heat, which would make it very dry. Therefore, dust wash off et cetera, et cetera. I think it's a bad investment for the school board, because all you're going to do is have to either maintain it or have pissed off sorry, I have unhappy neighbors and we don't need either.

C

So I would like to find another solution. As far as blacktop goes, I know blacktop if you have been any walmart or any strip mall that had it it's a terrible item to have in ascension parish in louisiana or anywhere is where it rains and dries up. A lot of blacktop wouldn't be my preferred method. Concrete may will be or should be.

C

I do wish that the school board would find an alternative and preserve this community because it isn't just kids coming in the morning, kids, going at night, it's every friday night football game which y'all gonna have fun with sports. It's every softball game. It's every baseball game. It's every graduation! Every school act! This isn't a two cars once you know every now, and then this is a full. It's a parking lot!

C

That's gonna have a lot of traffic on it and I don't know if you know how kids are today but we're they. We they're gonna peel out and do dumb stuff in it. I know we did that at dutchtown, so we need a 21st century parking lot for 21st century school, not not something you would have done in the 70s when we were trying to build salmon high school in the swamp. This is a modern day school for a modern day area.

C

That's my opinion. Thank you. Thank you.

G

I think we do need a 21st century fix on this. I've been a touchdown several times graduations games, and if this is the same type,.

A

Of deal that you guys say, you maintain it's horrible.

G

It's been horrible, everyone complains they trip, they fall when it rains. There's puddles is it's it's just horrible and uh I think I think we should uh just stick with what we originally got bid.

A

For the parish and give these students and give the neighbors uh what they deserve.

B

We have a big responsibility to our citizens and also to uh the school board and looking at this with as much opposition as we have in this is serious. I mean you're talking about dust uh particles that could be inhaled. It could be contaminated on food you're talking about corrosion of vehicles. These are children that are going to be parking and their friends are going to be parking in these lots.

B

We need to protect them, not expose them, not in this modern day and age. To chemicals of that nature, I know we're looking to or you guys are looking to cut because of the recent inflation as it's hit, but unfortunately this is a safety issue that I would personally have to side with the citizens of the parish on unless there was a better alternate option, but as written I would I could not pass this. I would have to make a motion to deny it as written.

A

I put my two cents in too sure this I mean if this was walmart or academy or anybody else. We wouldn't let them put a gravel parking lot in and another main thing we as a variance board have been instructed with and seems like since I've been here, was that we don't do uh variances for a financial hardship. That's a self-created hardship, um so it's basically, I I really.

A

If this were next to a pasture or something like santa moyers or like dutch town wood, I would be a little more in support of it, but uh being 40 feet away from somebody's house has been there 30 years, I'm not in support of it. So anyway, after that, for any more comments or any motions, I'll.

B

Make a motion to deny this written motion.

A

To deny by mr eddie krauss in a second I'll second, second, by jake joffrey, all in favor, oh, no variance deny.

A

Okay, next up, we have.

A

Zoner review id pz2890.22.

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A

If y'all can have a conversation in the parking lot be better. Thank you. Okay, zona review id nine pz2890 point two two lot: 145 pelican crossing for uh mel uh russell berg saying that right. Okay, would you step up and tell us what you're trying to accomplish here? Please.

L

Okay, uh I just bought the home on the lot 145 in march. uh I told them at the very beginning: it's dsld home. I told them that I was wanting to extend the back even during the building phase, but they told me they don't make any adjustments to the home that it has to be processed and done after the fact, because they won't allow any changes.

L

But I guess the main variance that I'm looking at is from what I was told. uh You have a 20 foot clearance from the rear of the property to the to the actual property line. Right now, there's a 22 foot clearance.

L

But if you see on the, I think I've submitted a layout there's like 70 65 to 70 feet of property behind my house before it gets to the pond. That is just a grass area, and I've got to keep that mowed and maintained. But my property actually goes just 22 feet. So.

A

Is that in your hoa restrictions that you have to maintain that property between you and the pawn or you choose to? How does that work?.

L

They said it's required required, but technically I'm not part of the actual hoa for there I'm on a temporary hoa. But then I'm going to get grandfathered in to the the main hoa. But regardless I've still got to get approval from the temporary hoa, but the day the ones.

A

That tell you you have to maintain that grass behind you yes properly. Okay,.

L

And then they're all they also have to approve uh the type of construction. Basically, I'm just wanting to extend the back of the house and switch the patio from one side to the other side and eventually it'll make a like a larger game. Room like a 20 by 24 game room in the back of the house.

A

So, do you have that this this map, right here with you? uh Yes,.

A

So your existing patio is in yellow right. It says.

K

Existing patio- yes, okay,.

A

I'm having trouble reading this blue area- that is this a new, does it say, screen patio or something.

L

Well, yeah I'll be just switching the patio to that opposite side of the house, because I'm going to take the existing patio and make it wouldn't be a 12 foot extension. So that'll be up. So there's just going.

A

To be an open patio, really I mean it's just screened in, but the new one, the blue area, yeah yeah, the.

L

A

And what's the green area.

L

Well, the green is where the the new slab will be poured like 12 foot all the way across the back of the house: okay, but I'll go out from the existing patio and that blew it. The blue, yellow and green area. There that'll be the the new enclosed game room.

A

Okay, all right! Okay, I'm with you now.

C

Yes, good, oh all right! So I guess I missed reddit because I'm reading the green, this is glassed in patio, but the gold would turn green and yellow into actual living space. Correct. Yes, okay and uh sorry fully insulated, ac, true living space right right.

L

And keeping the same construction materials, that's on the outside of the house with that.

L

They just they wouldn't allow me to make any modifications for any part of them. Yes, I've got an extra bedroom inside the house, but it's not large enough. Like I've got a pool table from my old house, I can't fit that any place in the house. I'm just trying to make a room larger. They.

C

Take up a lot of space, we've learned a lot about pool tables yeah all right. Unfortunately, you know how subdivisions are these subdivisions developed? I know there's nothing in the back. This is actually uh contains utilities, drainage or anything like that, and.

L

That's well the main reason I selected that particular lot. I told him was the only one I wanted, because I.

E

L

To I, like a large yard: technically the yard is not mine, most of it in the back, but they say I've got to maintain it. I've got it.

C

To the left, to use that melba or to the some of the organizations, oh.

L

I got one neighbor on my left is that mailboxes.

C

In there and there's many boxes on the right just curious, you don't have to cut that right. No.

L

They they actually come in and cut that, but they won't no he's come, go over and cut that community property. That's in behind.

K

L

They make a straight line to the pond. I've got to cut everything behind my house, there's some of the neighbors that are sort of bulking at that process, and they don't even know their that extra property.

L

Whichever hoa is in charge at the time and I'll try to get this processed and done, it is unusual.

C

You haven't applied for paris permits or anything at this.

L

Moment no, I was going to wait and see if I even get. If I don't don't, have the variance in it. Let's do all right, one no point paying a thousand dollars for, uh uh I guess: blueprints yeah.

A

Yeah first step right here.

G

All right, jake! Well, I'm looking at uh you know from what I'm looking at it looks like you have a large area between you and that pond correct yeah. It's a lot! Okay, how.

L

Many feet you have between 65 and 70 it. Actually, the pond is a little bit of an angle so see that on the left side is like 65 feet.

L

The subdivision.

G

The larger section there yeah okay.

L

Okay, like I said I just specifically selected that lot, because I told him I said I don't get that light. I don't want any rest of them anyway, so I.

G

C

Any more questions yeah. Let me knock this out too then. Does this not a half foot variant, your request and does it cover the sulfite of the house, because the solvent would technically need to be part of it right lance, so it wouldn't be. The exterior wall would be the one foot solvent overhang. You would need the variants for. Did you include that in your calculations.

L

I was just extending everything 12 feet so.

C

The only reason I don't want to give you variants that you can't use at all. So if the.

C

It's just an opinion. I don't want no absolutely.

A

Yeah, I mean yeah right as of right now. What you ask for variance is for just your slab. Oh okay, yeah.

L

A

Soffit, you know the overhang of the roof right, correct right, so.

I

A

Need a instead of a 12 foot nine to have you.

C

Need eight and a half or eight even just to cover all the bases right.

G

Something I don't you might add enough- does.

C

It not have variance, I was requesting, so you need to add a foot, so it needs to be eight and a half, or I would even suggest eight just to cover. I'm saying he's going back and forth. Yeah.

L

If I was going making a 12 foot slab out of the 22, that would cut it down to 10, but they'll soften. If you.

C

Please correct move on. I mean that's right in your opinion,.

F

L

F

Yeah but it's the kind of thing you're asking for that's a 12 foot there or whatever.

C

The other way around.

F

And that would be that many feet from the from the property line, eight feet and then 12 feet or whatever the variance itself would be, would be 12 feet if all 11 and a half or whatever it would be.

C

Not bad, I thought I read nine and a half variants. Well, okay,.

L

Well, it's 22 foot from my slab right now to the end. I was looking at the slab, 12 foot and then the soffit I guess, would put another, but I would take 14 foot off of the 22 feet.

C

Yeah I mean the variance being requested, is nine and a half feet.

F

And he would be two and a half feet from the block line. I was taken from the information that he gave but correct. I didn't put the overhang because I didn't looking at it, but the overhang was part of it: okay, okay, so we.

G

Can we can we can correct that yeah.

A

Okay, uh anybody sign up for public comment.

E

Go and sign up thank.

A

You closing public comments, any more questions, any emotions, small talk.

G

A

We're wearing the eight feet of my room at 11 feet: 11. 11, foot, bearings.

L

Well, quite good, it's only 22! Now, if I do the slab, 12 foot, that's that'll be 10 foot from the property line, so it needs to be eight foot if you're, including the soffit.

F

Would be more than that because there's eight people in the property I need to be 20, who has a 12 foot parents.

G

A

A

Whatever you say it needs to be, what would you suggest we make a motion um for him.

F

Basically, what was requested and then add you know, say that we'll put the foot in there uh with the with the overhang. That's.

C

What he's doing from the property line.

A

We need to vary him ten and a half feet, we're not burying him eight and a half feet, we're bearing him ten and a half feet correct.

A

B

Like to make a motion to reduce the minimum set back from the property, the minimum rear set back from the property allow those 20 feet the applicant would like to construct in addition to the existing home, the proposed addition would be 11 feet from the property world, no 11 11 and a half feet. I'm sorry from the property law, the values being requested would be eight correct.

B

G

We're just adding to his variance, correct we're right, a foot.

B

Or two yeah we're designing one foot, oh so it would be 10, it would be eight and a half.

B

Of 11 feet from the property.

A

Okay, uh my motion by mr eddie krause second.

G

I'm gonna strike.

B

You down that's good! That is correct right, sir. Okay have a second.

A

Second, about jake, joe from all my favorite, all right variance passes sorry about this. We.

L

Got those numbers.

C

Wrong we'll talk.

L

About it later, all right, thank.

C

L

A

G

L

Send me something or do I need to do this.

A

Yep just give away the answer.

A

Okay, I guess uh you're the only one left in the audience. So uh next we have a zoning review, id pz2905.22.

A

Lot: three pelican point: commerce center for sjp properties; llc; yes,.

I

So my name is todd pv I represent st john we're just requesting a variance to the maximum building height for our property.

I

Zoned mu, currently um we're requesting it to build a class, a institutional grade, bulk distribution building, and by that I mean a building with tall ceiling heights, um the inside height of which we need is 32, feet right for clearance for racking up to that level, and because it's 32 foot, we need a little bit more than that above it to get that's why I'm asking for 41?

I

Basically, um it's um above the 35, which is the building height, is nothing really but dry air and non-combustible materials like concrete and steel and there's a roof deck. You know um the building fully sprinklered would be fl. Excuse me fully sprinklered, with a an esfr sprinkler systems like early suppression, fast response, so it's high density, sprinklers.

I

um I've talked to the neighbors joel roberts on this south of us and he's got no issues with it. The north group is from new orleans called immoral properties and they are totally on board with it. um I met with james leblanc fire captain um and his fire chief josh winger. I believe, and uh both of those guys are totally on board with it and have no issues with the height of the building for safety reasons, and things like that, and so.

A

Did you happen to have any documentation that yeah, so I uh from from james the boss.

I

It's not the most professional thing in the world.

A

That's okay and he.

I

Told me that he would write um something on formal letterhead if, uh if that, if that would help, but he did, I was just texting with him before I came here. If.

A

You got a text, that's good enough. I just need to.

M

Absolutely james.

I

A

Know other than your word, nothing.

I

Let me find it here, but.

A

It's a big concern of ours because we need to know that the fire department has a lot of trucks to reach up there if they need to yeah and have uh the ability to pump water up there if they need to crawl up a ladder, truck, put a hole in your ceiling and shoot water down there right right. Yes, so he.

I

um Can I bring what do I hand this to you sure you can.

M

Yeah he uh yeah they have, I don't think, a lot of trucks for that area. Basically, so he he makes a deal an agreement with. I think the parish city.

A

A

I

You know 365 days a year right and so anytime anything a trouble signal goes off and they get called. He said that the agreement will send it immediately to the city's group, who has the fire trucks, and then you know it sounds like they do it regularly.

I

But I'm sorry that it's not the greatest piece of paper.

A

Oh, no, it's fine, but I can.

I

Get it uh for sure on more professional level, if you need it, no.

A

I think I think that's fine, it's good enough for me, but yeah I mean look.

I

M

I

Represent st john properties, we've been in business for 50 years and we're developing something that's first class, so it also wouldn't be an eyesore. Well.

A

Everybody, I know also you have to go through uh the state fire marshal's office to get stuff like that done too. So you know that's we play on ground level here and there's a reason for 35 foot uh and several reasons for it, and we just got to make sure that all the eyes are dotted and t's across. So I understand, oh, I think mr eddie krause has a just curious. What question.

B

What would be in the facility what type of goods so the group.

I

We are can't give you their name. I have an nda, but it's essentially it's a retailer um that would store the retail products in their space and this would be a lot of a lot of food and beverage type stuff gotcha. um I mean there's some other brick of bracken type things, but it's mostly food and beverages. Just.

B

Asking because it could have been chemicals or things of that nature, just trying to find out right.

I

They would use this as a hub to distribute things regionally um to the hundreds.

A

Of locations, actually, it's kind of like basically like a almost like an amazon or.

I

Restaurant, like that yeah and it's like they've, got a whole bunch of retail locations, and this is like a hub that they keep all of their stock at and then distribute it out and then make repairs to store all kinds of little things like that sure.

A

Bring some employment to the parish as well. I do think it's.

I

25 to 30, I think, full-time jobs. They told me that it would be in taxes.

A

Okay, that's great all right so take care of formality here. Any public comment no.

E

A

Close the public comment, uh let me know questions.

C

Emotions I'll jump on some questions, uh mr baby, how about the so we're really just about walls. I mean yeah.

K

C

Would imagine this building's just gonna be a slope, so the back ceiling back roof height, probably is a lot lower than what you're asking oh.

I

It's uh so this is. This is like there aren't very many buildings in the in the city like or the parish like this at all, there's one on ashland road, that's kind of similar to this, but it's tilt up concrete right, so that's tilt up on both sides and a flat tpo membrane, rubber roof right. So the roof is essentially.

G

A little bit across.

I

The wall and you just tuck up the sprinklers in the bar joists and that kind of stuff, above that 32 foot,.

E

The sprinklers.

I

Are right above that and then you got trusses and bar.

E

I

You got the roof deck and then there's a little bit of height on the sides. Just because you don't want it to be terribly ugly. You know.

C

Just some architectural.

I

Features essentially, you.

C

Have the unison.

C

You think there's gonna be mechanical units like ac units.

I

And things there's air conditioning units, that's right and that's basically it there's some skylights, uh the tpo roof and air conditioning unit.

C

I think it's a beautiful design, uh I do know the city limits are pretty much on the north side. In the south side, it's that little yeah. He doesn't jump a little niche. I don't think the city responded to that uh and trusting james's word. I don't think, there's an issue at all. uh The only thing I got lance this. This would not apply to the rest of the property. It only would apply to this building.

F

That's correct: okay! Yes, just this building, that's being requested good.

F

All right, my biggest concern.

B

Was the fact that the fire department could handle because I personally had a full-time job? We have a very large hotel and you would be surprised at how limited some of those resources are, but as long as they could handle it, I'm fine it. I think it looks, looks like a nice building. I agree.

A

You know I remember a while back. We had a minute a year or two ago we had a variance in a hotel in donaldsonville.

A

They wanted to go up another floor and I talked to the fire chief there and everything it was about, probably about the same height in the 40-foot area and and uh nobody ever seemed to have a problem with the fire department uh about getting up that highway with uh rescue water. You know all that stuff, so I feel good if uh chief james leblanc rolled it off.

A

C

In motion I'm, uh but I do want to specify that it applies specifically only to this building, uh no other future buildings necessarily or any existing buildings. So.

A

Okay motion by uh mr devin, graham to accept secular second, by eddie krauss, all in a favor hi. Baroness granted, I appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir.

B

All right, thank you for bringing the business here as well. Yeah thanks a lot.

A

Okay, uh next up on the agenda, we have any old business, no sir, uh any new business, no sir okay! Well, if we do have some new business new old business yeah, but we still are looking for one more member to sit on the variance board. So if we got any citizens out there that want to give up a hour a month out of their time and come and join us we'd sure like to have you just get in touch with mr lance brock and he can get you hooked up all right.

A

Next I'll look entertain motion adjourn motion by mr devin, graham second, second, by eddie krause, all in favor, aye, meaning adjourned.