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Planning Commission - April 12, 2023
A
Okay,
this
is
a
meeting
of
the
Parish
of
Ascension
Planning
Commission,
it's
April
12
2023
6
o'clock
P.M.
We
are
at
the
Ascension
Parish
courthouse,
607,
East
worthy
Road,
Gonzales,
Louisiana
70737
and
the
council
chambers.
On
the
first
floor,
our
first
item
in
business
tonight
is,
we
have
a
a
new
old
commissioner
that
has
to
once
again
be
sworn
in,
so
someone's
going
to
do
the
oath
of
office.
B
Mr
Julio
Dumas:
are
you
ready
to
take
the
oath?
Yes,
sir,
do
you
solemnly
swear
to
uphold
the
laws
and
the
Constitution
of
the
United
States,
the
state
of
Louisiana,
the
Parish
of
Ascension,
and
to
faithfully
and
impartially
discharge
and
perform
all
duties
incumbent
upon
you,
as
Planning
and
Zoning,
commissioner,
to
the
best
of
your
ability
and
understanding
I
do
all
right,
you're
sworn
in.
A
Congratulations:
welcome
back
roll
call
of
members
Stacy.
Please.
D
C
E
D
A
A
You
all
Chairman's
comments,
I
really
don't
have
any
comments.
This
meeting
tonight,
except
to
welcome
Mr
Dumas
to
the
commission,
he's
going
to
be
a
he's
going
to
be
a
very
valuable
member
and
we
appreciate
having
him.
A
If
anyone
has
any
desire
to
comment
on
any
agenda
item,
please.
A
D
F
G
Sir,
thank
you.
Mr
Fournier,
Mr
chairman
you
having
fun
of
you,
the
normal
stat
subdivision
monthly
report,
showing
any
changes
not
really
any
changes.
Everybody
is
still
just
in
construction.
We
do
have
one
final
plate
and
I
do
anticipate
a
few
more
in
the
coming
months.
If
anybody
has
any
questions
about
anything,
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
them.
A
Staff
report
no
engineering
staff
report,
the
minutes
of
our
last
meeting
that
one
reviewed
the
Menace
and
do
we
have
a
motion
to
approve?
Second,
my
Mr
Sheikh
Snyder
we're
gonna
cast
our
votes.
A
A
H
A
A
E
A
To
remove
the
final
plat
approval
from
the
consent
agenda,
do
we
have
a
second
by
Julio,
Dumas,
Mr
Dumas?
Let's
vote
on
that?
Please.
A
All
right,
okay!
Well,
then,
we
won't
vote.
I'm,
sorry,
no
vote
necessary.
So
the
final
plot
approval,
Windsor,
Park,
Subdivision,
first
filing
quality
engineering
and
surveying,
is
removed
from
the
consent
agenda.
This
time
do
we
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
remaining
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
A
Okay,
so
the
item
final
plaid
approval,
Winston,
Park,
Subdivision,
first
filing
quality,
engineering
and
survey
and
we'll
be
placed
back
on
the
agenda
as
item
number
14,
B.
A
Next
gender
items
number
12.
public
hearing
to
approve
or
deny
the
following
family
partitions.
The
first
one
has
been
removed.
The
item
was
removed
from
the
agenda
prior
to
the
meeting
by
staff
as
it
did
not
meet
the
Ascension
Parish
unified
development
code
appendix
for
Section
17,
405
F2,
the
public
notice
requirements
that
was
for
albertine,
a
Palms
property,
Lots
5A
and
5B
by
Norman
land
surveying
LLC,
Council
District
11..
J
Yeah
James
fraggle
represent
girls
and
Associates
Mr
Robert
Smith
Jr
and
the
following
family
partition
asking
the
commission
for
approval.
All
we're
doing
is
taking
his
property
and
dividing
up
half
acre
in
the
front,
so
his
parents
can
build
the
house.
Okay,
there's
an
existing
server
to
the
passage
already
getting
to
the
property
actually
through
the
property.
Okay,.
A
Any
do
we
have
any
public.
A
Seven
Bush
to
approve
I
missed
the
Shack
Snyder
second
by
Mr
Miller,
any
any
discussion
at
all
commissioners.
Let's
catch
your
boats,
please.
H
A
The
next
item
is
item:
C
Leroy,
Robert
property,
Lot
2,
a
1
A
1,
C
1
a
and
two
a
one,
a
one
c,
one
B
Earls
and
Associates
James.
A
A
A
F
Yes,
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
commission,
before
you
is
an
ordinance
recommendation
to
the
full
Council
to
take
the
residential
and
Parish
wide
traffic
calming
policies
and
procedures
manual
and
placed
that
in
the
unified
Land
Development
code
as
appendix
15..
This
was
distributed
to
you
some
time
ago
and
basically,
the
manual
provides
a
pallet
of
options
available
to
the
parish
developers
and
Property
Owners
to
place
traffic
calming
measures
within
a
subdivision,
whether
old
or
new,
or
on
Parish
roads.
All
right.
What
we'd
like
to
do
in
this
first
item?
F
That's
on
the
agenda
tonight
is
just
recommend
that
this
manual
will
be
placed
in
the
unified
Land
Development
code.
I.
Have
you
had
asked
me
to
have
someone
here
to
discuss
traffic
calming
measures
and
he's
here
here
for
both
this
item
and
the
next
Mr
Richard
Savoy,
who
is
from
Gresham
Smith
Mr
Savoie
is
from
south
Louisiana.
As
you
know,
as
soon.
F
Speaking
great
man,
as
has
worked
for
dotd
for
over
35
years
as
a
senior
engineer
and
really
knows
his
stuff
about
this,
and
we're
pleased
to
have
him
tonight
to
talk
about
this
item.
Thank.
A
I
think
that
I
think
Mr
Fournier
missed
one
little
tidbit
in
your
in
your
CV
I,
believe
you
were
either
chief
engineer
or
deputy
chief
engineer
for
the
Louisiana
Department.
L
L
Okay,
no
pressure
here,
no
pressure,
I
work
for
Gresham
Smith
out
of
the
Baton
Rouge
office,
and
we
were
asked
to
come
before
you
I
know:
y'all
received
a
huge
document.
I
think
was
prepared
by
Sigma
consultant
group
out
of
Baton
Rouge
and,
as
it
was
explained,
there's
a
plethora
of
ideas
that
you
can
use
or
take
out
of
that
manual
to
do
traffic
calming
as
it
was
explained
more
than
likely
it
would
be
best
implemented.
L
If
that's
what
the
council
so
chooses
to
do
in
a
new
subdivision,
because
it's
easy
to
incorporate
some
of
those
measures
into
something.
That's
existing
or
is
going
to
be
planned
from
the
beginning
to
implement
something
like
that
in
an
existing
subdivision
could
be
more
of
a
challenge,
but
it
would
require
some
study.
It
would
require
some
participation
more
than
likely
in
an
existing
subdivision.
It
would
come
from
a
complaint
from
someone
left
living
in
in
that
subdivision
whether
it's
speed
more
than
likely
it's
going
to
be
a
speed.
L
Complaint
I
happen
to
live
in
a
little
one.
Street
subdivision
here
are
offer
74
and
luckily,
for
our
subdivision,
we've
got
a
four-way.
Stop
sign
in
a
section
right
in
the
middle
of
the
subdivision,
so
speed
is
not
an
issue,
but
but
there
are
some
that
we've
looked
at
that
exist
in
the
parish
that
have
lengths
of
of
roadway
with
no
traffic
control
from
maybe
3000
feet.
L
We
looked
at
some
stuff
and
East
Baton,
Rouge,
Parish,
I,
think
East
Baton,
Rouge
Parish
does
have
something
in
their
policy
as
far
as
traffic
coming,
some
of
it
in
new
subdivisions,
little
roundabouts,
little
circles
to
kind
of
slow
that
traffic
down.
When
you
have
a
long
stretch
of
continuous
roadway
without
any
traffic
control,
so
it
it
would
probably
from
an
existing
subdivision.
It
would
probably
come
from
a
complaint
and
it
would
probably
require
somebody
to
go
out
there
meet
with
the
complaintant.
L
Maybe
have
the
council
member
that
represents
that
District
go
out
there.
Look
at
it
maybe
do
some
speed.
You
know
I
look
at
I,
looked
at
some
just
a
little
tidbit
of
a
joke
here,
but
but
I
looked
at
some
traffic
calming
measures
that
some
woman
in
her
robe
standing
in
her
front
yard,
with
a
hair
dryer
trying
to
implement
that
she's
got
a
radar
gun.
L
You
know
so,
just
joking
aside,
you
have
to
look
at
some
speed
that
would
that
would
be
out
there,
but
more
than
likely
you're
looking
at
roadways
that
may
have
lengths
of
maybe
more
than
700
feet,
750
feet,
but
I
think
that's
something
that
we
on
our
side.
Defense
made
some
comments
on
the
policy.
If
there
was
to
be
some
revisions
to
it
would
be
that
that
the
developer
would
come
in
and
recommend
traffic
calming
or
if
he
didn't
recommend
any
traffic
coming.
L
Maybe
it's
at
a
location
that
he
would
provide
the
the
right-of-way
for
a
future
Circle-
not
maybe
constructed
at
this
time,
but
maybe
something
in
the
future
when,
if
speed
did
become
a
problem,
that
the
the
area
or
at
that
location
would
would
be
wide
enough
to
implement
some
type
of
circle
for
traffic
calming
in
an
existing
subdivision.
More
than
likely
you're
talking
about
speed
bumps-
and
you
know,
there's
many
of
them
that
you
can
choose
from
to
do
that,
some
of
them
people
just
jump
over.
L
You
know
they
have
a
lot
of
them
in
I,
know
in
southbounds
and
Baton
Rouge,
but
again
there's
all
kind
of
measures
you
can
Implement,
but
but
the
position
would
be
is
that
it's
the
best
on
the
front
end
when
a
subdivision's
brought
for
approval
and
possibly
have
some
some
area,
you
know
reserved
for
a
traffic
calming?
Should
it
be
needed,
but
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
within
my
abilities.
If
not,
we
may
have
to
get
back
with
y'all,
okay,.
L
L
You
know
some
of
the
sub
I
think
all
the
new
subdivisions
now
must
come
with
a
sidewalk.
You
know
the
subdivision:
I
live
in
Plantation
Creek
doesn't
have
any
sidewalk.
L
A
And
then
I
have
a
question.
You
know
you.
You
mentioned
that
the
Developers
would
when
they
presented
their
plans.
They
may
have
some
recommendations
for
some.
You
know
some
traffic
calming
devices
to
be
implemented
at
the
at
the
Inception
of
the
development.
L
A
Some
could
be
brought
in
later
I
I,
I,
I
I.
It
would,
it
would
be
important
to
me,
I
believe,
to
have
one
of
our
the
parishes,
independent
traffic
firms
review
those
proposed
traffic.
Calming
measures
to
to
you
know,
offer
an
opinion
on
whether
or
not
they're
appropriate,
and
they
would
work
in
that
particular
scenario
as
opposed
to
the
developing
the
being
the
one
who
determines
that
I.
L
Would
agree
with
that?
I
would
agree
with
that.
You
know
if
he
brought
in
and
he
had
a
traffic
coming
device
or
a
little
circle.
Let's
just
choose
a
circle,
and
he
said
this
is
what
I
think
it
should
be
done
is
that
he
should
have
some
engineering
justification
for
it
and
I
think
that's
what
you're
asking
for.
Yes,
sir,
you
know
on
the
converse
if
he
didn't,
that
would
be
an
engineering
justification
as
to
why
he
didn't
implement
the
circle
right.
You.
F
Yes,
sir
Mr
chairman
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
the
first
item
that
we
did
we're
due
to
discussing
traffic
calming
is
to
take
the
manual
and
put
it
in
the
in
the
uldc.
The
second
item
was
to
talk
about
how
we're
going
to
implement
the
measures
in
that
manual.
Okay.
So
if
we
could-
maybe
just
you
know
at
your
at
your
discretion,
just
maybe.
F
A
Order,
okay,
so
let
me
go
back
to
commissions.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
for
Mrs
sabwow
relative
to
our
recommending
approval
at
denial
of
this
document
to
the
parish
council.
A
E
How
are
we
recommending
this
to
the
council
as
being
able
to
implement?
Are
we
saying
that?
Are
we
recommending
that
there's
parameters
that
we've
already
addressed
and
accepted
and
that
are
they're
going
to
once?
We
recommend
approval
they're,
going
to
address
those
parameters
and
requirements
for
implementation.
A
A
Seven
years
okay
motion
is
adopted,
don't
go
anywhere,
13,
I'm,
sorry,
14
A's.
Now
is
the
discussion
on
the
application,
the
implementation
of
traffic
calming
measures
so
I
go
back
to
my
previous
comment.
Thank
you
for
that
answer,
as
as
well
as
the
as
well
as
my
my
comment
on
the
review
by
one
of
the
parishes
on
contract
traffic
firms
and
I
I
have
a
question
about
speed,
bumps
and,
and
that
question
relates
to
that
was
a.
A
So
if
we're
talking
about
speed
bumps
has
that
has
that
changed
in
any
way
or
or
the
or
the
courts
or
or
you
know
is,
is
the
is
the
opinion
towards
speed,
bumps
and
liability?
Should
someone
hit
the
speed
bump
damage
their
car
go
off
the
road
run
through
a
house
or
whatever
it
is?
Has
that
been
addressed
in
the
courts
of
late.
F
Yeah
I
I'm
not
aware
of
any
right
now
personally,
but
we
might
defer
to
legal
counsel
on
that.
Maybe
we
can
ask
Spencer
next
next
and
do
some
research
on
that.
But
I'm
not
aware
I.
A
K
K
Advance
right
and
I
mean
there's
a
bunch
of
them
in
South
Towns,
where
I
used
to
live
in
Baton
Rouge
years
and
years
ago.
Those
that
old
subdivision
today
has
many
of
these
implemented
into
them,
and
the
speed
bumps
are
not
I.
K
Would
let
me
put
it
to
you
this
way
if
you're
going
twice
the
speed
limit,
you're
going
to
regret
it,
but
if
you,
but
if
you're,
if
you're
not
just
be
you
know,
you're
not
going
to
get
damaged,
I
think
the
speed
bumps
are
now
more
more
sophisticated,
a
little
bit
more
evolved
right
and
for
lack
of
a
better
description.
Yeah
I
think
that
the
traffic
engineer
you
know,
but
someone
I,
would
hope.
F
We
we
can
certainly
create
a
policy
that
would
have
that
in
it
and
and
and
that's
I
think
what
what
we'd
like
to
discuss
right
now
is
what
those
measures
are
you
know
are.
Are
we
going
to
have
every
subdivision
that
that
a
preliminary
plot
look
at
traffic
calming
measures
that
might
be
prudent
to
do
depending
on
how
the
length
of
the
streets,
some
of
the
recent
subdivisions
that
have
come
before
you
been
what
30
40,
maybe
50
Lots
very
small
streets,
aren't
very
long.
You
know:
is
it
appropriate
to
have
it
there?
F
These
are
questions
we
we
can
look
at
with
with
our
experts
here
and
and
come
back
to
you
with
a
policy
and
kind
of
expand
on
the
one
that
we
had
in
your
packet
I.
K
F
L
If
that's
what
what
needs
to
be
done,
the
other
issue
would
be
is
when
it's
not
in
the
subdivision,
like
duplessis
Road
or
you
know
the
ticket
to
plessis
Road,
where
I've
traveled
that
so
I
know
how
hard
it
is
to
to
you
know
to
hold
30
miles
an
hour
right.
It's
an
hour
road.
It's
got
big
ditches.
So
what?
What
do
you
do
when
there's
no
HOA
to
do
that?
One
would
look
like
it
would
fall
back
on
the
parish
for
maintenance
and
liability
on
something:
that's
not
in
an
HOA,
controlled
environment.
So.
A
A
I
I
do
and
it's
kind
of
multi-pronged
approach,
while
I
do
believe
in
the
traffic
calming
techniques
and
and
and
the
practice
in
general
I
mean
I,
think
it's.
It's
absolutely
necessary.
I
think
that
we
just
have
some
issues
that
we're
not
answering
at
this
time
and
it's
making
me
very
hesitant
about
moving
this
forward.
I
If
you
look
in
the
main
packet
in
in
the
manual
one
of
the
things
in
the
manual,
you
know
section,
8.1,
funding
funding
must
be
secured
first
and
you
know
for
these
type
of
calming
measures,
so
I'm
also
asking
what
type
of
funding
measurements
or
funding
you
know.
Avenues
do
we
have
in
place
for
this.
We
have
move
Ascension,
yes,
but
and
in
the
brand
new
subdivisions
that
are
adopting
the
road
millages.
I
That
is
a
funding
you
know
mechanism,
but
in
the
other
unincorporated
portions
of
the
parish.
We
have
no
real
funding
mechanism
for
this
type
of
maintenance.
I
Now
we
do
have
that
that
we,
we
did
pass
a
resolution
and
the
council
passed
the
resolution
recently
we
want
to
on
these
new
subdivisions.
You
know,
keep
our
millages
high
on
those
and
those
those
monies
can
be
used
for
maintenance
such
as
calming
techniques
and
use
that
money-
that's
fantastic,
I
wish
we
would
have
done
this
10
or
15
years
ago,
though,
and
now
where
we're
at
the
real
issue,
is
we're
not
going
to
have
very
many
subdivisions
approved
over
the
next
five
to
ten
years?
I
So
if
we
make
all
these
changes,
are
we
really
making
an
impact
and
that's
just
a
concern
of
mine?
And
then
you
know
whenever
you
mention
ticket
plessis,
that's
exactly
where
I
was
going
to
be
I'm
against
the
implementation
of
speed.
Mumps
I
just
cannot
support
it.
I
used
to
live
off
of
near
ticket
plessis
and
Goodyear
got
a
lot
of
extra
money
for
me
due
to
speed
bumps
I.
I
On
the
appendix-
and
this
would
be
more
in
generalized
for
older
subdivisions-
we're
going
to
recommend-
or
you
know
these
HOAs
might
be
petitioning
for
calming
measures
and
of
course
the
first
thing
they're
going
to
want
to
do
is
have
speed,
bumps,
speed,
humps
or
anything
like
that,
but
the
maintenance,
the
funding
for
it,
and
then
the
liability
I
think
the
general
public
are
very
unaware
and
ignorant
about
what
is
going
to
cost
and
then
at
one
point
I'm
wondering
are
just
the
taxpayer
is
going
to
end
up
footing
the
bill
so
I
just
don't
really
support
it.
I
A
A
A
E
Yeah
I've
got
some
questions
about
you
know
again
and
I'll.
Second,
the
the
speed
bump
thing:
I
simply
I,
don't
like
it.
You
know
because,
as
you
stated,
Mrs
Cowboy,
you
know
a
lot
of
these
older
neighborhoods.
They
don't
have
The
Pedestrian
ways,
you
know
sidewalks
and
whatnot,
so
the
kids
are
riding
their
bikes
across
these
speed
bumps,
and
quite
often
you
see
it,
you
know
down
South
Wood
Village
they
break,
and
now
you've
got
a
piece
of
rebar
sticking
out
the
blacktop
that
just
punch
the
hole
in
somebody's
tires.
E
You
know
and
causes
more
of
a
problem
than
versus
you
know
so
now,
they're
swerving
around
completely
avoiding
the
whole
purpose
of
the
speed
bump
all
together,
so
I
wouldn't
want
the
speed
bumps.
My
concerns
are
with
the
the
implementation
where
of
such
as
the
requirements
I
saw.
There
was
something
there
about
a
traffic
count
less
than
400
cars
would
mean
that
one
was
not
needed.
Yeah.
E
You
know
I
think
if
399
cars
are
going
by
my
kid
on
a
bicycle:
that's
safe,
but
if
we
get
to
400
now,
she's
in
Jeopardy,
I,
don't
I
see
where
that
could
be
problematic,
because
you're
not
going
to
have
a
400
car
in
a
neighborhood
yeah.
So
it's
in
as
the
developer
simply
going
to
say:
well
we're
not
going
to
have
400
count
traffic
counts,
so
we
don't
need
to
implement
this.
So
I
think
that
you
know
that's
the
part
that
I
was
asking
earlier
about.
You
know
during
discussion,
a
there's.
E
How
are
we
going
to
determine
when
these
measures
are
required
and
I'd
like
it
to
be
clear
on
that,
so
that
the
developers
and
everybody
knows
coming
to
the
table?
These
are
the
things
that
we
need
to
address.
You
know
because
we're
fixing
to
see
the
situation
here
once
you
get
to
the
final
play.
Hey
we've
already
put
everything
in
place.
That
was
there
we're
not
required
to
make
any
changes
now.
You
know
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial.
E
You
know
because
to
have
this
laid
out
prior
to
everyone
getting
there
and
and
knowing
it
well,
we
got
100
and
something
pages
that
we
had
to
read
through
and
pick
up.
You
know
exactly
what
we're
going
to
put
in
what
we're
not
going
to
put
in
for
us
to
come
and
discuss
that
today
and
say:
yes,
it
is
or
no
it's
not.
Is
that
the
idea
there
of
everything
in
that
that
second,
you
know
packet.
F
Well,
the
the
second
thing
that
we
get
handed
out
the
traffic
calming
policy
measures
right
was
the
discussion
all
right,
so
we're
not
saying
that
this
is
what
should
be
or
shouldn't
be.
This
was
for
discussion,
points
all
right,
okay,
so
yeah
so
I
guess.
E
F
Of
the
things
we
envision,
though,
is
that
if
a
HOA
or
someone
else
makes
a
request
to
have
traffic
calming
measures
placed
in
there,
we're
not
just
going
to
go
in
and
put
them
in
there.
We
want
an
engineer
to
look
at
this.
We
want
to
engineer,
look
at
the
road
Network
and
give
us
their
best
advice
as
to
whether
what
type
of
traffic
calming
measures
should
be
placed
in
there
and
and
you
know,
and
how
and
when
and
everything
else.
E
E
So
I
think
I
would
like
some
type
of
working
group
that
involves
you
know
some
of
us
staff,
you
know,
and
maybe
even
the
transportation
committee.
If
they're
you
know
that's
involved
in
this
as
well
and
I-
think
the
traffic
impact
fees
that
are
under
the
new
development
may
be
able
to
address
some
of
Mr
Shake
Snyder's
funding
concerns.
But,
like
you
said,
that's
only
for
the
new
development
yeah
yeah.
F
Let
me
state
that
the
traffic
impact
fee
program,
the
fees
that
are
collected
for
traffic
impacts,
are
for
capacity
increased
in
capacity
not
for
safety,
all
right
right,
two
different
things,
so
they
wouldn't
even
be
applicable.
So
so
they're
not
available
to
us
to
be
used
for
traffic
calming
measures
right.
A
Okay,
so
so
I'm
gonna
get
with
you
in
a
minute:
Mr
Dumas,
you
too
Mr
Sheikh
Schneider
on
Mr,
Miller's
comments
and
the
400
vehicles,
I
kind
of
agree.
That's
that's
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
vehicles,
and
so
just
as
a
comment,
I
I
want
to
be
sure
that
whatever
the
policy
is
whatever
is
recommended
is
more
than
a
feel-good
measure.
A
F
I
A
Well
and
then
one
more
comment
primarily
for
the
commissioners:
there's
there's
a
there's,
a
group
that
is
called
ashto
a-a-s-h-t-o
ashtow
has
a
policy
on
traffic
calming
and
you
can
go
there.
It's
online,
it's
the
American
Association
of
State
Highway,
Transportation
officials.
You
can
go
online
and
you
can
read,
read
their
policy
become
familiar
with
that
policy
and
it
may
answer
some
of
our
questions.
Mr
Dumas.
K
D
K
K
Existing
development,
I
I,
think
you
know
you
have
two.
You
have
those
that
have
private
streets
that
are
that
belong
to
an
HOA
and
those
that
are
public
streets
and
I.
Think
you
need
to
treat
those
in
in
your
recommendations
separately
as
well,
because
you
know
in
a
subdivision
whether
it's
a
public
Street
they
may
or
may
not
be
an
HOA.
K
So
it
could
be
that
you
know
in
a
subdivision
that
has
public
streets,
the
only
option
that
might
be
available
to
the
parish,
that's
affordable
is
just
simply
change
the
traffic
control
on
an
intersection
from
one
set
of
stop
signs
to
before
we
start.
That
may
be
the
only
the
only
opportunity
you
have
that's
that's
affordable.
You
know
that
the
taxpayers
can
can
correct,
can
absorb
I.
You
know
I,
think
the
timing
to
do
this
is
is
important.
Is
good
I
mean
if
you're
not
watching
the
news.
K
You
see
that
this
is
a
New
Sensation
that
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
drag
race
everywhere.
Okay,
so
I
mean
it's
for
whatever
it's
worth
Jerome.
Does
it
just
some
of
the
things
that
pop
right
into
my
mind,
of
how
you
how
you
should
bring
it
back
to
us
yeah
is
to
is
to
recognize
that
you
have
two
two
primary
categories
and
one
of
those
is
going
to
have
like
two
subcategories
yeah
can.
F
I
Going
to
entertain
that
Mr
fornia
another
question
I
had
is:
how
would
these
these
traffic
calming
measures
come
into
play
whenever
we're
starting
to
talk
about
level
of
service
for
at
intersections
and
and
such
you
know,
we're
really
harp
on
any
of
these
intersections
for
for
impacts
on
new
subdivisions
have
to
be
at
a
c
or
greater
and
such,
but
do
these
traffic
calming
measures
on
the
existing
roadways,
if
they're
taking
into
account,
is
it
possible
that
they
might
lower
those
and
inadvertently
might
lower
that
level
of
service
due
to
speed
and
and
a
lesser
lesser
capacity,
I
mean?
L
Can
have
well
I
would
think
that
part
of
the
traffic
calming
measures
is
to
try
to
get
people
to
adhere
to
the
posted
speed
limit
and
I.
Would
I
would
think
that
most
HOAs
that
did
come.
You
know
with
the
complaint
or
wanting
an
investigation
and
saying
our
subdivision
streets
posted
for
25,
but
I
promise
you
everybody's
going
30
plus.
So
you
know
from
a
level
of
service
standpoint.
You
just
I
think
the
traffic
coming
is
just
to
try
to
calm
people
to
get
to
the
posted
speed
limit.
L
You
know
we
how
many
people
said
That's
supposed
to
that
that
cruise
control
exactly
on
70
when
you
travel
on
the
interstate
we
all
fudge,
but
but
again
in
the
subdivision,
where
you
have
pedestrians,
I
know
I
run
on
the
street.
There's
no
sidewalk,
but
I
have
confidence
that
that
the
people
are
going
to
add
here
to
that
four-way
stop
sign
in
the
middle
of
the
subdivision,
but
I
think
traffic
calming
the
principle
is
to
try
to
get
the
individuals
to
adhere
to
a
posted
speed.
K
I
Right
and
and
the
reason
I
kind
of
bring
that
up
is
you
know
one
of
the
the
traffic
calming
measures
that
we've
seen
in
in
that's
I,
don't
know
if
it's
necessarily
been
effective,
but
Government
Street
in
Baton
Rouge
right
one
of
the
traffic
measures
that
calming
measures
they
they
call
it
a
Government
Street
diet
where
they
they
change
the
lanes.
So
we
now
have
a
capacity
reduction
in
on
that
road.
I
Now
that
they
thought
that
this
was
going
to
help
it
was
going
to
calm
things
down,
it
was
going
to
slow
things
down,
but
now
we're
facing
more
of
a
delay
even
even
further
delay,
because
the
capacity
is
is
so
much
lessened
and
and
I'm
thinking,
not
just
in
HOAs,
not
just
in
subdivisions
but
again,
whenever
we're
talking
about
Germany
Road
being
a
long
drawn
out,
Road
Tiki
de
plessis
to
bless
this
road,
those
other
types
of
roads
that
people
do
tend
to
speed
on
yes,
but
whenever
we
start
trying
to
implement
a
traffic
calming
measure.
D
A
L
A
F
E
A
You
could
have
a
radius,
it's
a
very
soft
curve
where
you
have
a
stop
in
the
right
turn.
You
can.
You
know
you
know
straight.
A
strong
90.,
I,
think
that
that
you
know,
and
and
also
the
the
width
of
the
road
curb,
no
curb
of
all
those
things
to
me
would
would
come
into
play
and
I
think
it
should
be
considered
the
Commissioners
any
any
other
comments.
E
F
Thank
you.
Yes,
Mr
chairman
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
Mr,
Joey
Touro
who's
in
the
audience
tonight,
he's
our
traffic
guy,
he's
our
road
guy
and
he's
going
to
retire
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
What,
and
so
we
won't.
F
M
Mr
salboys
far
too
modest
with
dotd,
he
had
a
very
important
chief
engineer
position:
I'm
I'm
humbled
by
being
called
The
Parish
chief
engineer,
because
a
DOT
TD
chief
engineer
is
a
high
pressure
position.
I
mean
it's:
only
the
tougher
can
can
handle
that
and
Richard
did
it
admirably
right.
M
And
I'm,
just
the
parish
chief
engineer
and
look
at
me
but
and
I
do
get
a
lot
of
calls
about
traffic
calming
plenty.
It's
I.
Don't
get
calls
about,
saying
that
the
the
you
know,
I
can't
go
fast
enough.
It's
always
calls
about.
The
speed
is,
is
is
dangerous.
You
y'all
had
mentioned
the
plessis
road
and
I'm
aware
of
everything
all
the
drama
that
was
with
Tiggy
de
plessis,
so
I
understand
those
that
do
not
want
any
traffic
calming
at
all.
I'll.
Take
that
back.
M
They
don't
want
any
speed
bumps
at
all,
but
there's
other
technology
out
there
other
other
tools
out
there
like
speed
tables.
That
I
happen
to
be
a
fan
of
I've,
seen
it
in
other
parts
of
the
country
and
it
works
effectively.
There
are
signs
warning
you
that
a
speed
table
is
here.
So
you
know
if
you
tear
up
your
vehicle
with
a
sign
staring
you
in
the
face.
M
I,
don't
know
I'm,
not
an
attorney,
but
I
would
think
you
know
it
it.
You
know
kind
of
relieves
your
life
liability.
In
that
case,
I've
got
and
I
do
have
to
harp
on
the
plessis
road.
I.
Do
have
you
know,
input
in
the
plans
of
the
plastis
road.
It's
going
to
be
reconstructed
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
M
I
personally
included
speed
tables
on
that
road,
I'm,
not
sure
if,
if
this
panel
or
if
the
public
in
general
will
go
along
with
that,
you
know
and
I'll
be
glad
to
discuss
more
of
you
know
in
a
side
meeting
or
whatever
I
did
discuss
it
with
the
police,
the
fire
chief,
because
there's
a
fire
department
right
there
on
the
site
he
was
reluctant
at
first,
but
whenever
you
know
he
had
the
envisionment
of
a
speed
bump,
which
I
know
is
not
it's
effective,
but
it
has
a
lot
of
drawbacks
in
that
it.
M
You
know
it
does
JAR
people,
it
makes
a
noise
and
all
that
speed
tables
tend
to
not
do
that.
You
know
you
know
I
guess
unless
you
really
Drive
crazy,
but
that's
what
the
speed
table
is
there
for.
We've
had
a
lot
of
run
off
the
road
accidents,
because
people
just
drive
too
fast
on
the
plessis.
It
is
a
through
Road
and
people
use
it
as
a
through
Road
robustly.
M
One
thing
that
was
brought
out
by
the
the
fire
chief
in
that
after
we
had
the
discussion,
he
was
actually
on
board
with
having
some
speed
tables
and
we're
just
talking
about
in
that
stretch,
having
maybe
four
or
five
he
said
well
at
the
End
of
the
plessis
Road
St
John
is
right.
There.
M
There
are
kids
that
go
to
that
school
churches
say
it's
a
church
school
he
recommended
to
to
put
one
there,
especially
he
was
okay
with
the
other
ones,
but
he
said
especially,
we
ought
to
put
one
there
and
I
agree
with
that.
So
that
is
you
know.
This
is
not
a
retrofit.
This
will
be
in
the
construction
of
the
plessis
road.
If,
if
everyone
is
in
agreement
with
that
and
I
think
it
would
be
I
get
a
lot
of
calls
now
about
the
speed
and
it's
a
narrow,
pitiful
Road.
M
Whenever
we
redo
it,
it's
going
to
be
a
nice
Road,
11
foot
Lanes
two
foot
paved
shoulders.
If
you
think
people
are
going
fast
now,
you
wait
then,
and
I
guarantee
it's
going
to
be
a
problem.
So
I
think
it
needs
to
be
addressed,
but
it's
it's
up
to
us
in
this
room
and
and
Council
as
to
whether
we
address
it
now
or
you
know
we
put
up
with
the
repercussions.
K
E
M
H
E
A
Okay,
thank
you
anything
else.
Mr
Fournier,
anything
else,
commissions,
I'm,
sorry,
Mr
Cloutier.
As.
C
We
move
forward
with
the
crafting
of
this
ordinance.
What
I?
What
I
see
is
once
we
have
new
developments.
You
know
subdivisions
come
before
us
is
that
we
don't
funnel
this
this
ordinance
into
certain
traffic
calming
measures
I
mean
obviously,
with
this
manual
in
here
on
my
iPad
there's
hundreds
of
pages,
there's
hundreds
of
different
traffic
coming
measures
that
we
leave.
It
open
that
so
because
every
subdivision
isn't
gonna
fit
every
traffic
calming
measure.
C
Each
subdivision
is
going
to
require
a
different
look,
so
I
just
say,
as
we
move
forward
is:
don't
don't
narrow
it
just
to
specific
traffic
calming
measures
that
we're
only
going
to
adopt
is
that
we
leave
it
open
and
that
we,
when
it
comes
before
us
and
the
developers,
look
at
them.
We
look
at
it
as
this
is
what
we
recommend
from
an
engineer,
an
expert,
and
this
is
what
we
implement.
F
That
was
that
was
the
purpose
of
putting
the
manual
in
the
right,
because
it
does
outline
numerous
traffic
calming
measures
that
can
be
implemented
and
we
don't
want
to
focus
on
just
one
or
two.
We
want
to
have
that
palette
available
to
us.
You
know
during
the
design
of
a
subdivision,
all
right,
so
you're
right.
Thank.
A
Okay,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda:
I,
assume
that
that
discussion
is
completed
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
the
return
of
the
final
flat
to
the
agenda
from
the
consent,
and
we
got
still
got
those.
A
Where
are
they?
We
already
did,
though,.
D
A
A
Okay,
so
you
have
any
any
comments
before
we
begin.
Our
discussion.
N
No
sir
I'll,
just
whatever
Mr
Miller's
questions,
are
okay.
A
Well
hold
up:
do
we
have
to
have
a
public
hearing
on
this.
E
The
street
connectivity
requirements
to
have
more
than
one
exit
were
y'all
pre-approved
prior
to
that
being
put
in
place.
I'm
I.
N
I
Windsor
Park
Windsor
Park
Subdivision,
was
approved
before
we
had
that
requirement
in
place.
Okay
quality
engineering
as
a
developer,
they
did
offer
to
have
interconnectivity
during
that
time.
Frame
of
and
I
wasn't
a
part
of
the
commission
at
the
time.
But
I
do
remember
the
meeting
during
that
time.
It
was
requested
by
a
lot
of
people
to
eliminate
the
connectivity
right
so
by
all
parties.
Agreeing
connectivity
was
eliminated.
E
Well,
you
know-
and
that
brings
me
to
the
question
you
always
having
just
discussed
I-
think
their
cheap
concern
was
the
additional
traffic
and
the
speeding
through
those
neighborhoods.
You
know,
you
know,
with
the
traffic
calming
measures
in
there
are
y'all
planning
to
lead
those
connect
Avenues
in
place,
so
that
if
it
does
become
those.
N
Connections
are
there
in
case
something
happens
in
the
future,
and
somebody
wants
to
move
forward
with
the
connectivity.
I
remember
one
of
the
comments
was
you
know
that
the
the
neighboring
subdivisions
just
were
absolutely
against
it.
A
Right
yeah,
so
just
the
point
of
information
based
on
based
on
everything,
I
read
and
and
learned
as
this
as
this
subdivision
went
through
the
process,
every
step
of
the
way
quality
engineering
and
the
developer
met
all
of
the
requirements
and
the
requests
of
the
Planning
Commission,
whatever
whoever
the
Planning
Commission
was
at
that
time.
So
to
change.
Something
now
would
be
to
go
back
and
remove
something
that
was
previously
approved.
A
B
E
What
was
the
the
waiver
for
the
sewage
for.
N
G
Way
was
it
now
that
the
the
public
has
voted
to
sell
a
parish
assets
on
the
sewer
system
to
NWI?
They
are.
The
Consultants
developers
are
asking
for
waivers,
because
the
sewer
ordinance
is
still
written
so
that
it
requires
a
developer
to
dedicate
the
system
to
Ascension
Parish.
Unless
a
waiver
is
granted,
so
they
grant
them
a
waiver
so
that
they
can
donate
the
system
to
a
private
third
party
since
they're
going
to
end
up
owning
it
within
the
next
six
eight
much
year
whatever
anyway,
and
that's
what
that
wave
was
for.
E
E
E
Know
I've
heard
lately
something
over
there
in
the
Conway
area
seems
to
be
having
some
problems.
I
just
wanted
to
I'd
hate
for
y'all
to
have
that
same
issue
to
deal
with
so
everything's
have
been
fixed,
yes,
Department's
inspected,
and
we're
good
on
that.
Yes,
I've
got
no
other
questions.
A
Okay,
okay,
I
didn't
see
it,
but
well
then
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve.