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Planning Commission - February 8, 2023
A
Okay,
this
meeting
of
the
Ascension
Parish
Planning
Commission,
is
called
to
order.
It
is
February
the
8th,
6
p.m.
February
2023
for
those
like
me
that
get
lost
in
time,
we're
at
the
Ascension
Parish,
courthouse,
607,
East,
worthy
Road,
Gonzales,
Louisiana,
70737
and
the
council
chambers.
On
the
first
floor
we
do
a
roll
call
of
members
Stacy.
Could
you
call
the
rule?
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
the
next
item
is
going
to
be
Chairman's
comments.
I
want
to
start
my
comments
by
reminding
everyone
if
you
have
a
desire
to
speak
on
any
item,
that's
on
the
agenda
either
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
or
during
the
public
hearing
period.
You
should
visit
over
here
whether
red
and
green
rectangles
are
and
fill
out.
A
cart
and
you'll
be
called
on
to
speak
when
that
item
is
up
so
now
we're
going
to
go
to
public
comment
on
any
agenda
item.
F
Thank
you,
Mr,
chairman
gentlemen.
Good
evening,
you
have
in
front
of
you
the
normal
staff
report
for
February
2023.
There
are
no
noted
changes,
Mosside
Villas,
this
preliminary
Platt
is
up
for
meeting
or
consideration
tonight
we
have
had
a
couple
of
pre-application
meetings
in
the
last
month
month
and
a
half,
but
we
have
not
received
any
additional
applications.
If
anybody
has
any
questions,
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
them.
Any
questions
from
the
commission.
D
Mr
chairman
I'd,
like
to
announce
we
have
on
the
agenda
discussion
of
the
parish
council
resolution.
The
council
recently
passed
a
resolution
asking
us
as
a
Planning
Commission,
to
adopt
some
rules
about
traffic
calming
items
all
right,
I
put
on
the
agenda
discussion,
but
it's
really
just
an
announcement,
because
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
bring
those
back
to
you
next
month.
D
As
a
public
hearing
item,
I
will
have
experts
addressing
those
our
traffic
engineer
and
other
people
who
can
address
those
comments
to
you,
as
you
make
a
decision
as
to
whether
we're
going
to
place
those
in
the
unified
Land
Development
code
or
not
all
right.
So
as
staff
is
looking
at
this,
we're
still
working
the
details
out
on
how
we're
going
to
incorporate
it
into
the
unified
Land
Development
code.
D
All
right,
the
next
one
is,
is
also
an
announcement
and
it's
something
we'll
be
bringing
back
to
you
next
and
that's
a
modification
to
the
uldc
for
the
protection
of
existing
watersheds
and
conveyance
systems,
and
these
are
around
existing
projects
that
are
being
constructed
right
now.
And
how
are
we
going
to
deal
with
the
construction
site
to
avoid
water
getting
on
neighboring
properties?
D
All
right,
so
we're
going
to
include
some
language
in
the
unified
Land
Development
code
that
can
address
that
and
again
I'll
have
some
experts
here
at
the
next
meeting
to
let
you
know
how
we're
going
to
accomplish
that
all
right.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
those
announcements
to
you
and
let
you
know
that
that's
going
to
be
discussed
at
next
meeting,
all
right
and
we'll
have
the
ordinances
ready
and
ready
for
you
to
act
upon
along
with
discussion
items.
D
A
Do
have
a
question
with
regard
to
the
traffic
calling
measures.
The
information
that
we
received
is
a
pretty
thick
document
with
a
lot
of
various
methodologies,
or
is
the
staff
planning
to
make
some
recommended
recommendations
as
to
what
calming
measures
might
be
appropriate
for
Ascension
Parish,
or
are
we
going
to
be
considering
all
of
them.
D
I
think
what
we'd
like
to
do
in
the
document
you're
referring
to
is
about
130
pages
long,
is
to
create
an
appendix
in
the
unified
Land
Development
code
and
place
that
entire
document
as
an
appendix
within
the
text
of
the
subdivision
code.
When
project
Engineers
are
designing
subdivisions,
we're
going
to
have
some
language
that
we
would
basically
say
we
want
you
to
incorporate
traffic
calming
measures,
personal
and
two
appendix
XYZ.
You
know
whatever
that
appendix
may
be
and
because
different
subdivisions
will
require
different
solutions
to
traffic
calming
right.
D
G
D
Are
those
are
numerous
ways
of
implementing
traffic
calming
measures,
and
so
you
know,
as
I
said,
subdivisions
would
be
different
depending
on
the
configuration
and
we
would
like
them
to
adopt
some
of
those
measures.
Some
may
not
be
appropriate
all
of
them,
maybe
none
of
them
are
appropriate.
You
know,
but
we're
looking
at
length
of
roadways.
You
know
if
there's
a
road
within
a
subdivision,
that's
a
certain
length.
We
probably
want
to
put
traffic
calming
measures.
D
H
I
A
I
I
A
J
I
mean
is
the
is
the
real
intent
that
that
the
family
is
going
to
basically
have
they're
going
to
continue
this
plot
this
land
in
the
family
or
and
have
more
like
a
family
compound
type
of
thing
or
they're,
just
wanting
to
have
the
land
subdivided
and
their
sell-off,
as
as
whatever
they
want
through
a
state
or
whatever
else
their
rights.
Are
it.
F
Mr
chairman,
that
one
thing
the
the
applicant
is
asking
for
a
waiver
there's
a
requirement
to
20
foot
by
25
foot
apron
hard
surface
apron
be
constructed.
Now
they
do
have
the
requirement
that,
since
it's
more
than
three
lights,
they
have
to
build
a
20
foot
wide
driveway.
All
the
way
to
the
last
lot
before
the
first
building
permit
is
issued,
but
they're
asking
a
waiver
to
allow
the
apron
to
consist
of
aggregate
as
opposed
to
the
hard
surface
due
to
the
existing
condition
of
Kling
Road
at
that
point.
F
A
J
The
the
issue
about
the
the
apron
was
kind
of
a
point
of
contention
with
our
last
round
of
updates
to
the
code,
and
you
know
this:
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
settled
on
was
to
have
this
apron
so
the
first
time
this
kind
of
comes
up.
They
want
to
waiver
I'm,
not
too
interested
in
granting
something.
That
was
a
big
point
of
contention
that
that's
my
big
comment
about
that.
J
L
F
The
requirement
is
that
it'd
be
hard
surface
and
what
they're
asking
is
that
they
install
an
apron,
but
did
you
allow
them
to
have
it
as
aggregate
as
opposed
to
being
concrete
or
asphalt,
because
the
drive
of
the
road
is
allowed
to
be
aggregate
right?
But
the
the
requirement
for
the
apron
is
that
it'd
be
a
hard
surface,
either
asphalt
or
concrete
and
they're
asking
that
you
allow
the
drive
to
be
since
a
drive
is
more
than
likely
going
to
be
aggregate
that
you
allow
the
apron
to
be
aggregate
as
well.
F
H
G
A
D
A
A
M
I'm
here
tonight
to
present
a
preliminary
plot
for
most
side
Villas.
It's
a
36
lot
subdivision
on
about
12
acres,
located
on
the
north
side
of
Highway
74,
just
west
of
the
overpass
on
I-10.
The
development
will
be
gated
with
private
streets
as
the
developer
is
providing
a
pool
house
and
a
pool
for
the
development.
M
Background,
thank
you
all
right.
The
required
mail
mail
kiosk
will
be
located
at
the
pool
house.
The
Green,
Space
Park
and
pond
add
up
to
about
two
and
a
half
acres
of
recreation.
Space,
which
is
greater
than
the
required
about
a
quarter
of
an
acre,
is
required
as
part
of
this
development.
The
property
is
currently
zoned
RM,
which
is
medium
intensity
residential,
which
allows
for
up
to
three
lots
per
acre,
which
we
meet,
that
density
requirement
being
at
36
Lots.
M
The
development
is
a
mixture
of
60
and
70
foot
Lots,
which
is
required
by
the
UDC
that
we
could
have
26,
60
foot,
lots
and
1070
foot
Lots.
We
specifically
put
the
detention
on
the
west
side
of
the
property
to
limit
the
number
of
lots
adjacent.
You
know
a
number
of
lots
in
our
neighborhood
adjacent
to
the
existing
neighborhood
We've,
also
provided
the
required
drainage
study
and
and
have
exceeded
the
minimum
requirements
even
based
on
the
new
requirements
that
were
passed
recently.
M
H
M
We
we
routinely
receive
a
lot
of
grief
about
our
drainage
studies,
not
being
worse
the
paper
that
they're
written
on,
because
they
don't
always
reflect
what's
actually
happening.
I
had
a
meeting
at
the
site
last
week
with
some
of
the
adjacent
residents
and
I
was
happy
to
say
that
they
validated
a
lot
of
the
information
that
we
have
in
our
study,
you
know
is
accurately
reflected
of
what's
actually
occurring
so
you
know
what's
occurring
on
a
routine
basis,
and
it
probably
happened
this
afternoon
with
a
two
or
three
inch
rain.
M
M
So
what
we're
proposing
to
do
is
we're
proposing
to
make
that
situation
better
by
replacing
when
the
drainage
comes
off
the
site,
it
gets
in
the
highway,
74
ditch
and
it
goes
east
towards
the
interstate.
Well,
all
the
culverts
are
undersized
they're
clogged
up
and
they
need
some
some
maintenance
to
them.
M
So
what
we're
proposing
to
do
as
a
part
of
our
development
is
that
we're
going
to
replace
the
culverts
upsize
them
to
the
proper
size,
we're
cleaning
out
the
box
covers
under
Highway
74
and
we're
cleaning
out
the
ditch
all
the
way
to
the
I-10
right
away
to
help
alleviate
that
problem
and
based
on
our
study
that
we
know
is
accurately
reflects
what's
happening
today.
That
will
no
longer
be
a
problem,
except
maybe
in
a
hundred
year
event.
You
may
still
have
a
little
bit
of
water
on
Highway
74,
but
we've
alleviated.
M
You
know
98
of
the
issues
there
by
improving
the
drainage
in
the
area,
the
previous
traffic
study
that
was
prepared
for
this
development
when
it
was
approved
the
first
time,
six
or
seven
years
ago,
by
a
different
developer
under
a
different
name.
It
was
included
in
the
packet
by
the
era
as
reference
material
to
show
that
back
then
there
were
no
improvements
required
on
Highway
74
and
that
there
are
none.
M
Today,
the
newly
passed
traffic
requirements
that
were
passed
recently,
they
only
require-
or
they
mandate
that
we
only
provide
a
calculation
of
a
trip
generation.
If
we're
less
than
40
Lots,
you
know
only
36
Lots.
We
provided
that
calculation,
so
we
met
the
requirement
for
a
traffic
study
for
development
of
this
size.
The
development
is
also
located
on
a
state
highway.
If
it's
less
than
100
Lots
drgd
does
not
require
a
traffic
study
as
well.
So
consequently,
the
just
the
middle
has
met
all
of
your
new
traffic
requirements.
M
F
F
There
are
two
items
they
did
ask
for
a
stage
four
Park,
which
requires
under
staff,
review
comments
and
stage
two
three
and
four
items
that
I've
listed
under
staff
review
comments
that
would
be
required
in
order
to
meet
that
and
reduce
the
amount
of
acreage,
that's
required
for
the
park
and
the
second
item,
which
is
something
that
you
folks
probably
have
not
had
to
address.
Yet
our
typical
section
shows
the
sidewalk
outside
of
the
right-of-way
due
to
the
fact
that
that
pulls
it
too
far
into
the
yards
closer
to
the
home
homes.
F
Typically,
what
the
engineers
or
the
Consultants
ask
for
is
a
waiver,
because
our
typical
section
shows
that
outside
the
right-of-way,
it
asks
for
a
waiver
to
allow
the
sidewalk
to
be
placed
within
the
right-of-way,
which
is
typically
granted,
but
that
is
also
under
consideration
for
this.
So
that
would
be
something
in
the
motion
that
you
would
have
to.
Grant
is.
I
N
F
I
N
E
Yes,
it's
normally
how
this
process
has
gone
before
you
know.
Obviously
you
have
the
summary
letter
in
front
of
you,
so
we
do
our
best
between
a
traffic
study
drain
study
to
synthesize
it
down
to
a
a
manner
that
we
could.
You
know
summarize
everything
that
was
going
on.
The
review
comments
that
you've
seen
or
those
are
our
actual
review
comments
that
are
reviewed
to
the
consultant,
and
then
we
summarize
how
they
respond
so
that
you
understand
what
the
flow
is
and
provide
a
high
level
summary
and
typically
on
our
letters.
E
If
there's
something
unique
want
to
make
sure
it
brings
to
your
attention
between
all
the
tables
we
put
at
the
very
end.
This
is
just
items
to
be
considered
by
the
appointed
commission
or
analysis
of
the
case.
I
have
on
the
page
five.
That
was
an
important
item
from
DPW
of
just
making
sure
that
the
developer
is
committed
to
upgrading
the
culverts.
That
they've
already
shown
their
study
they're
going
to
do
that
they
can
and
does
the
downstream
cleaning
that
Mr
Robinson
already
stated.
E
A
A
A
Okay,
Miss
marrow.
Before
you
start,
this
is
for
you
and
for
all
the
other
public
members
of
the
public.
My
wish
to
speak.
You
have
a
three-minute
time
limit
and
I'm
going
to
enforce
it.
Unless
the
commissioners
motion
to
let
you
have
more
okay,
that's
that's!
That's
a
that's!
A
commission
rule
three
minutes
so
I'm
going
to
enforce
it.
O
My
name
is
Vanessa
Merrell
I
lived,
I
live
and
have
lived
on,
Ellison
Road
for
49
years,
my
property
borders.
The
proposed
developments,
property
line
I,
have
two
concerns:
the
EPA
site
and
flooding
the
proposed
property
to
be
developed,
borders
property
that
is
an
EPA
Superfund
Site
called
Dutchtown
treatment
plant.
O
There
will
be
several
homeowners.
This
will
be
in
their
backyard.
It
has
been
documented
in
the
EPA
reports.
Standing
order
sits
on
the
property
after
it
rains.
New
construction
on
the
neighboring
property
will
increase
this
I
believe
over
time.
It
would
become
a
bigger
issue.
I
spoke
with
the
DEQ
contact
today.
He
was
not
aware
of
the
proposed
development,
and
I
would
hope
that
before
anything
is
approved,
they
are
at
least
included
in
talks
about
the
contaminations
that
are
still
on
the
property.
O
Second,
is
my
flooding?
2016.
I
had
no
water
in
my
my
yard,
nor
did
my
neighbors.
However,
in
the
past
five
to
six
years
in
my
backyard
has
been
holding
water
with
the
slightest
rain
shower
on
July
26
21
I
attended
the
listening
tour
and
it
was
demonstrated
how
new
development
changes
the
water
flow
and
has
caused
increased
flooding
in
our
Parish
building
up
the
land
for
new
development
that
is
building
up
the
land
for
new
development
is
called
flooding
and
surrounding
areas
where
new
development
has
been
instructed
and
constructed.
O
I
understand
that
drainage
canals
are
being
dredged
and
Retention
Ponds
are
required.
However,
Donald
is
not
going
to
stop
the
flooding.
Our
Parish
needs
to
stop
building
homes
on
top
of
homes
to
fit
as
many
as
you
can
on
a
piece
of
land.
We
are
already
overdeveloped
how
about
36
structures
raise
two
feet
higher
than
my
property,
helped
decrease
the
flooding
issues
and
concerns
of
surrounding
residents.
P
H
P
Has
said,
but
I
do
appreciate
this
being
a
mandate
that
these
cupboards
are
cleaned
out
along
74.
prior
to
construction.
Is
that
how
it's
going
to
be
prior?
You
know,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
what
they
are
promising
is
what
they're
going
to
do,
but
it
will
fulfill
or
try
to
so
on
that
note,
I
also
own
property
on
elazar
road
that
borders,
the
developing
the
development
beginning
with
the
second
property
I
just
mentioned
I
want
to
know
that
I
can
be
assured.
P
You
know,
along
with
everybody
else,
on
elazar
road,
that
that
property
will
not
have
any
issues
of
flooding.
So
we
say
we're
building
a
retention
Pond
and
it's
going
to
all
the
water
is
going
to
go
South
right
toward
that's
the
way
it's
supposed
to
go,
but
there's
no
guarantee
in
that,
especially
having
a
retention.
Pond,
then
what
it's
going
to
do
it's
going
to
flow
West,
which
is
all
the
property
line.
P
P
P
P
Going
through
this,
if
you'll
look
as
you
continue,
this
is
my
front
yard.
I
got
these
pictures
if
y'all
like
to
have
something
to
put
on
your
wall
ET.
This
is
also
going
further.
You
cut
me
off.
Okay,
do
you
see
the
fence
line
as
we
continue
and
number
four
and
number
five?
This
is
Mr
Garcia's
property,
Gabriel,
Garcia
who's.
On
the
course
of
your
Roofing,
he
asked
me
to
speak
on
his
behalf
tonight.
P
Q
Q
After
a
rainstorm,
the
water
from
the
proposed
site
drains
over
I'll
show
you
some
pictures
in
just
a
minute
to
to
support
that
where
the
water
comes
from
from
the
proposed
site
drains
over
onto
LSR
Road,
it
has
nowhere
to
go
the
next
ones,
I'm
going
to
show
you
what
Mr
Mickey
spoke
about.
This
is
looking
East,
where
the
proposed
interests
of
entrance
of
the
unit,
the
development
is
going
to
go
that
adjacent
to
my
backyard.
That
shows
where
the
people
are
going
to
drive.
This
is
currently
what
happens
when
it
rains.
Q
Q
The
road
and
I
know
he
said
he
was
going
to
clean
the
culverts,
but
this
is
what
we
have
been
dealing
with
and
are
still
dealing
with
with
any
type
of
rain
small
storms,
whatever
my
house
has
never
flooded,
however,
in
2000
after
2016
it
did
not
flood
in
the
big
flood,
but
since
then,
hospitals,
new
primary
schools,
strip
malls
new
developments,
new
the
lone
estate
237
homes,
all
this
water
we're
going
to
get
the
brunt
of
it.
This
is
where
it
goes.
I
mean
we
need
to
be
assured.
Q
Q
Q
Q
A
S
S
I
understand
I
understand,
but
it's
not
a
lot
of
time
for
me
to
defend
what
I
have
to
deal
with
as
long
as
I've
reside
there.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out.
I'll
show
pictures
while
I
talk,
it
seems
like
and
and
I
had
something
I
wanted
to
talk
about,
but
the
way
it's
going,
I'm
just
going
to
show
you
the
picture.
This
is
today.
This
happened
today.
S
These
pictures
here
flooding.
We
all
have
an
issue
with
flooding.
We
all
kind
of
repeating
ourselves,
but
it's
a
big
issue
and
the
traffic
stays
here.
I've
got
some
questions.
Just
three
questions:
I,
don't
know
if
y'all
are
willing
for
willing
to
answer.
First
question
is
I'm,
not
real
sure
how
the
traffic
study
was
done.
S
A
E
S
Drainage
study,
which
we're
talking
about
item
number
16..
It
says
the
drainage
areas
are
visually
unclear,
so
it
what
does
that
mean?
It's
unclear.
How
do
you
not
know,
but
you
still
want
to
proceed
with
development
and
then
I
had
a
closing
statement
but
I'm
going
to
skip
that.
The
other
statement
is
if.
S
S
I
R
Ellie
SARS,
but
I
live
on
on
John
Street.
We
see
very
similar
issues
to
what
what
they
have
going
on
just
a
little
bit
south
of
us
I
wanted
to
Echo
Miss
muro's
comments
on
the
on
the
oil
Reclamation
facility,
I
think
they're
extremely
on
the
nose.
You
know.
How
is
that
water
going
to
change?
How
does
the
hydrology
look
when
they
do
put
this
new
subdivision?
R
Does
it
interfere
with
the
cap
that
they
have
on
it,
or
is
there
going
to
be
a
problem
regarding
how
the
toxins,
how
the
various
heavy
metals
are
going
to
move
from
into
a
Jason
residence
yards
things
that
nature?
That's
not
common
in
the
hydrological
studies
that
a
lot
of
these
folks
seem
to
Trot
out,
but
given
the
the
proximity
to
that
facility,
I
think
it's
oppressing
and
highly
relevant
question.
R
The
other
aspect
that
I
think
is
certainly
important.
You
know
we
had
what
maybe
two
inches
of
rain
this
afternoon
driving
on
10
on
the
way
over
here
you
know
the
ditches
between
John,
Street
and
74
were
completely
full.
That's
not
much
rain,
not
a
whole
lot
of
time,
we're
just
going
putting
that
much
more
water
that
much
more
quickly
to
the
highway
and
I
think
that
you're
going
to
see
you
know
the
same
issues
that
we've
been
dealing
with
for
years
continue
to
magnify
I.
R
Think
that
cleaning
out
the
culverts
is
absolutely
wonderful.
That's
very
much
a
one-time
a
one-time
deal
unless
there
is
there's
some
sort
of
ongoing
maintenance,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
stock
that
I.
Personally,
you
can
put
in
that
because
the
long-term
problems
haven't
been
alleviated.
That's
that's
my
piece
and
I
appreciate
the
consideration.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
C
A
C
Let
me
make
it
quick,
then
so
I
came
here
because
of
the
traffic
study.
Obviously
a
six
seven
year
old
traffic
study
I
know
they
met
the
minimum
requirements.
I
understand
that,
but
if
you're
going
to
propose
a
subdivision
in
Ascension
Parish
right
now,
I
think
you
should
probably
do
a
little
bit
more
than
the
minimum
requirements.
That's
just
my
two
cents
I
would
redo
the
traffic
study.
C
How
bad
it
is
I
would
recommend
if
you
guys,
do
pass
it
to
make
sure
the
drainage
work
is
taken
care
of
first,
just
kind
of
like
we
did
with
some
of
the
other
flats
that
were
approved,
that
we
make
sure
that
the
infrastructure
is
taken
care
of
first,
but
I
personally
would
like
to
see
an
updated
traffic
impact
study.
Thank
you.
I
T
Davis
I
live
on
John
Street
neighbors,
with
several
of
these
people
I'm
at
the
adjacent
to
lsar
Road
in
Dutchtown
Acres.
My
main
concern:
it's
been
several
years
ongoing.
The
rain
is
really
flooding
our
neighborhood
and
a
couple
years
ago
my
husband
encouraged
me
to
come
over
here
and
find
the
drainage
study,
the
drainage
plan
for
Dutchtown
acres,
and
it's
non-existent,
there's
absolutely
no
drainage
plan
for
my
neighborhood
and
it's
clear
and
evident
when
we
get
even
a
minor
rain
where
we
live.
All
that
intersection
is
just
flooding.
My
yard
is
full
I.
T
Have
the
culverts
blown
out
by
the
parish
probably
twice
a
year?
They
come
and
do
that
it
doesn't
seem
to
make
a
difference.
The
water
is
going
nowhere.
It's
just
stagnant
circling
around
in
from
LSR
all
of
Dutchtown
Acres
I
will
point
out.
In
May
of
22
we
had
houses
on
Highway
74
that
flooded.
These
are
older
homes
50
year
old
homes.
T
It
was
on
the
news.
We
all
know
this
I
am
concerned
about
the
water
flowing
into
the
neighborhood.
It's
very
high
at
the
end
of
our
street
and
the
traffic
is
incredible
out
there
and
I
just
think
it's
I
didn't
know
it
was
a
six
or
seven
year.
Old
study
and
I
clearly
think
that
this
is
impossible
that
you
could
be
proposing
and
allowing
this
to
happen
to
the
people
in
Ascension
that
have
lived
here
a
long
time
and
the
DEQ
issue
is
another
main
concern
of
mine
as
well.
T
I,
don't
see
how
you
could
possibly
approve
this
neighborhood
when
we
don't
have
a
drainage
plan
for
the
neighborhood,
that's
adjacent,
so
anything
that
they're
saying
they're
going
to
do.
They
don't
have
any
idea
of
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
water
to
the
neighbors,
so
I
just
find
that
unconscionable.
G
A
H
M
Good
so
running
through
the
comments
that
we
just
heard,
the
I'll
start
with
the
EPA
Superfund
Site.
We
also
spoke
with
Mr
Michael
a
bear
on
August
4th
of
2022
in
regards
to
the
Superfund
Site
there.
The
epa's
involvement
in
super
Superfund
Site
is
limited
to
the
site.
We
asked
them
to
comment
on
the
development
of
the
neighborhood
and
they
had
no
comment
on
it.
The
site
is
currently
in
an
inactive
stage.
It's
just
in
monitoring.
There
are
monitoring,
Wells
and
they're,
just
monitoring
it.
M
M
M
Mandating
the
cleaning
of
the
culverts
as
part
of
a
recommendation
to
approve
is
certainly
acceptable
to
us.
You
know
we're
we're
committed
to
doing
that.
It's
in
our
study,
it's
in
the
staff
report.
It's
in
my
presentation.
That's
certainly
something
we're
we're
agreeable
too.
Miss
glennis
spoke
about
the
drainage.
M
So
we'll
be
you
know,
making
that
situation
better
as
well.
Mr
Tims
he
spoke
about
the
flooding
I
do
want
to
reiterate
on
the
traffic
study.
You
know
that
traffic
study
was
not
intended
to
be
our
traffic
study
for
our
development.
The
requirements
for
us
were
that
we
provide
a
trip
generation
because
we're
only
36
lots,
and
so
we
met
that
requirement,
so
that
was
merely
included
for
informational
purposes.
Only
so
the
the
study
or
the
calculation
that
we
provided
met
the
intent
of
your
new
traffic
requirements
and
the
new
ordinances
that
you
passed.
M
So
it
is
current.
So
what
we
have
done
is
current,
based
on
the
most
current
information
available
again,
the
culverts,
the
traffic
study,
drainage,
work,
first,
typically
on
a
site
that
is
what's
done.
First,
is
the
journeys
work,
because
you
know
that
establishes
positive
drainage
for
the
contractor
during
his
work.
So
typically
that
is
done.
First
anyway,
is
the
journeys
work,
Dutchtown
acres?
Some
of
the
folks
spoke
about
drainage.
That
was
not
related
to
our
development.
M
Some
of
the
drainage
on
Nellis
art
comes
down
and
goes
to
the
west
and
we're
not
doing
anything
going
that
way,
because
our
outfall
is
to
the
east.
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
Mr
Shafter
last
week
cling.
He
lives
in
the
front
of
the
property.
He
actually
sold
the
property
to
the
first
developer
about
speaking
with
DPW
and
Mr
Ron
savla,
and
they
did
speak
and
they
do
have
a
plan
they
are
talking
to
dotd
about.
M
You
know
how
the
parish
might
get
help
going
in
that
direction
and
what
needs
to
happen
for
that,
but
in
terms
of
our
development,
any
increase
in
you
know
Journeys
that
we
may
have
we're
taking
care
of
it.
We're
making
the
situation
better,
we're
improving
our
outfall,
all
the
way
to
the
ultimate
outfall,
so
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
A
And
this
may
cover
some
of
the
other
Commissioners
questions
or
comments,
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
a
few
that
I
have
yes,
but
for
clarity,
you
said
that
a
phase
one
environmental
site
assessment
has
been
done
of
the
property
that
is
you're
going
to
develop
correct.
Yes,
sir
and
Sean
did
you
well
Mrs
Cheryl
as
part
of
your
review
and
recommendations?
E
It's
not
standard
protocol
to
be
submitting
the
employment
plot,
there's
no
requirement
phase.
One
esa's
after
we
made
a
comment
on
the
review
letter
that
you
all
see
about
bad
documentation.
They
provided
the
emails,
the
chain
of
emails,
but
the
request,
and
once
we
got
the
response
back
from
EPA
saying
it's
none
of
our
there's,
no
objection
of.
What's
going
on
no
concern
about.
What's
going
on
that,
we
stopped
our
process
right.
There.
A
The
stub
outs
to
the
east,
intent
in
anticipation
of
future
connection
to
adjacent
roadways
of
development
occurs
is
that
a
parish
require
garment.
Yes,
sir,
the
stage
four
Park
acreage,
I
looked
at
the
drawings
and
the
site
of
the
recreation
area
that
we're
talking
about
is
a
little
bit
over
a
half
acre.
Is
that
correct.
M
A
A
A
Mr
shireau
a
question
for
you
and
your
and
your
document
that
you
sent
to
us
where
you
list
the
various
comments
that
you
have.
You
have
two
different.
You
have
two
different
notations
one
is
that
comment
has
been
addressed
and
one
is
that
the
cons
that
the
consultant
has
has
revised
is
that
one
in
the
same
or
what
do
you
mean
by
those
two
comments?
So,
for
instance,
number
number,
30,
I'm,
sorry
number
29
says
consultant
has
revised
on
the
others.
It
says.
E
An
agreement
or
a
negotiation,
everything
has
been
properly
addressed,
I
apologize
for
the
confusion,
but
they
they
revised
it.
It's
sufficient
appropriate
for
preliminary
process.
As
you
imagine,
when
you
get
into
construction
plans,
you
get
more
specific
on
your
numbers.
That
model
gets
refined,
so
I
think
my
reviewer
intended
it
properly
revised
it.
But
should
we
get
approval
here
as
everything's
preliminary?
E
E
No,
no,
that
was
the
old
copy
and
paste
probably
came
from
somewhere
else
on
here.
Yeah
I
do
want,
while
I
have
the
microphone
here
at
one
point
we'll
make
sure
we
dress
all
the
comments.
One
was
questions
about
the
comment
about
drainage
areas,
not
being
clear.
It
was
more,
it
was
a
it
wasn't
clear
enough
on
the
drawing.
We
felt
the
engineer
knew
what
was
going
on.
It's
just
the
line
weights
wasn't
strong
enough
and
popped
out
for.
E
A
L
M
L
So
that's
one,
you
know
possibility
that
could
help
everybody
around
a
control
structure
before
it
out
Falls
and
then
to
the
parish.
The
streets
are
private
streets
in
its
private
drainage,
servitudes,
okay,
what
does
exactly
that
mean
for
the
36
residents?
If
you
have
an
issue
with
the
drainage
servitude,
it's
private,
it's
not
on
the
parish.
D
Well,
I
I
can
address
some
of
that.
The
private
streets
are
the
responsibility
of
the
homeowners
and
there
will
be
a
homeowners
association.
You
know
that
that
will
be
collecting
dues
to
maintain
roads
and
and
and
also
maintain
the
drainage
right.
So
the
parish
is
not
responsible
for
the
for
the
maintenance
of
the
roads.
It
will
not
be
included
in
the
parish
maintenance
system.
D
E
Is
the
desire
and
the
intent
from
DPW
not
to
take
on
any
maintenance
of
obligations
and
requirements
for
any
new
development
going
forward?
So
this
is
the
preference
DBW?
They
don't
want
any
more
of
our
yard.
Swells,
no
more
ditches
nothing
unless
it
accommodates
the
general
public
and
the
larger.
If
there
is
a
large
off-site
Watershed
that
drinks
through
this
development,
they
may
consider
it
a
public
because
should
have
not
take
care
of
that
they
want
to
protect
the
public
outside
of
it.
But
the
this
is.
E
The
DPW
has
been
involved
during
the
pre-application
process
in
here
and
they're
pushing
you
got
to
prove
to
me
that
it
justifies
to
make
it
public
to
add
to
my
maintenance
system
before
I
would
consider
it's
usually
it's
the
opposite
way
around.
So
this
is
very
standard
for
privates
I
believe
in
private
development,
there's
a
requirement
of
code
that
they
need
to
submit
their
HOA
covenants
as
a
part
of
the
final
plat
process.
That's
in
your
ordinance
and.
L
E
L
M
I,
don't
know
that
we've
gotten
to
the
detailed
portion,
yet
you
know,
generally
after
you
go
through
a
preliminary
process.
You
would
move
into
detailed
design
of
you
know
is
that
pipe
going
to
be
10,
12
18,
you
know
15
or
whatever
specifically
size
pipe,
but
I
mean
they
will
be
properly
sized,
for
you
know
the
their
intent
to
drain
the
backyards
and
anything
off-site
that
may
be
coming
through
the
site.
I
would
say
a
minimum
is
going
to
be
a
15
inch
pipe.
It's
typical.
M
M
Out
of
the
pond,
yeah
is
a
36
inch
pipe
and
it's
a
so.
The
way
that
structure
is
designed
that
pipe
is
designed.
Is
it
works
as
the
control
structure
that
you're
speaking
of
you
know
the
pipe
gets
overwhelmed
and
it
the
pot,
the
water
comes
up
in
the
pond
and
then
it's
metered
out
by
the
by
the
pipe
that's
going
out
of
the
pond,
so
it
works
the
same
as
a
structure
a
lot
of
times.
M
What
we
run
into
with
a
structure
is
that
it
becomes,
it
becomes
blocked
a
little
bit
easier
than
a
pipe,
and
then
you
have
issues
with
the
ponds
overflowing,
because
the
outfall
structure
itself
is
clogged.
That's
why
we
prefer
to
use
a
pipe,
it's
less
maintenance
and
less
chance
of
it
clogging
and
it
you
know
it
can
be
modeled
properly
to
work
just
as
you
discussed.
So
what
you
discuss
is
exactly
you
know
how
it
operates.
M
R
M
Know
setting
them
up
so
that
they
can
be
operative
once
their
development
is
turned
over
to
them.
You
know
this
is
not
going
to
be
a
50
a
month.
You
know
HOA
fee.
You
know
it's
going
to
be
a
little
more
substantial
than
that,
especially
with
the
Gated
Community
private
streets,
private
drainage.
You
know
this
will
be
a
little
more
substantial
than
that,
so
they'll
be
set
up
to
succeed
and
HOAs,
as
I
learned
from
some
lawyers
recently
have
a
lot
more
teeth
than
they
used
to.
You
know
they're
a
lot.
M
G
Yeah
I
mean
I'm
speaking
on
the
HOA.
I
would
like
to
see
us
eventually
get
to
some
type
of
requirement
that
you
know
they've
got
to
maintain
their
drainage
and
have
it
you
know
annual
inspections
or
whatever
that
is
cleared
up.
I
mean
they're
pulling
cars.
Out
of
you
know,
trains
here
he's
in
New
Orleans
and
can't
figure
out
why
they're
floating
down
there.
The
traffic
analysis
I
think
that
17
4060
requires
any
new
development.
You
have
to
have
an
updated
traffic
study.
G
M
M
E
Was
required,
yes,
you're
right,
they
are
required
to
address.
If
you
do
a
subdivision,
you
have
to
address
the
traffic
study
requirements
the
requirement
for
development.
They
don't.
That
is
this
small.
Is
the
lowest
threshold
requirement,
I
apologize
for
any
confusion
when
we
have
we've
added,
maybe
too
much
information
about
the
old
traffic
study
was
was
a
higher
threshold
than
this
project
needed.
So
we
just
know
a
lot
of
people,
especially
constituents
like
I,
heard,
there's
a
traffic
study
six
years
ago.
E
If
I
have
the
information
give
it
to
me,
let
us
make
a
decision.
Do
we
want
to
consider
it
or
not
considered
that
study
was
done
seven
years
ago,
but
it
was
at
a
higher
threshold
than
what
this
project
was
required.
We
just
included
for
informational.
All
they're
required
to
do
is
say,
fill
out
a
form.
I
got
36,
Lots
36
trips.
Let
me
make
sure
there's
nothing
blocking
the
site
distance.
At
my
driveway
as
we
approach
the
road.
E
That's
their
only
obligation,
I
added
more
information
than
the
minimum
thing
just
for
us
to
be
aware
of
it,
so
they
met.
They
addressed
everything
in
the
new
traffic
study
requirements
by
doing
just
that,
filling
out
the
trips
and
analyzing
the
site.
Distance
leave
the
driveway
look
left
and
right
make
sure,
there's
not
going
to
be
any
trees
that
blocks
the
Viewpoint.
When
someone
leaving
the
driveway
okay.
G
G
E
It's
more
of
knowing
that
a
six-year-old
study,
they're
required
to
do
a
greater
analysis,
ended
up
with
a
conclusion
that
nothing
is
needed
about
right
turn
lanes
over
larger
developments.
I
have
a
development
now
with
less
strips.
That
doesn't
need
to
do
a
study
at
all.
Therefore,
that
is
appropriate
and
sufficient
to
have
his
information
and
realize
they've
met
the
current
code.
G
I
just
feel
like
it
would
be
pertinent
to
have
updated
information,
also
I
believe
the
date
of
that
study.
Our
new
requirements
say
that
you've
got
to
do
it
during
the
the
school
hours
when
there's
no
early
dismissals
or
whatnot,
and
turning
third
24th
of
May
would
be
at
the
very
end
of
the
school
year,
quite
possibly
with
early
dismissals.
E
I
believe
at
a
Planning
Commission,
you
have
the
desired
request.
What
you
want,
but
obviously
you
have
to
be
aware
from
legal
and
everyone
else.
If
you
set
in
a
precedent
of
asking
for
a
higher
degree
traffic
study
that
you
Era
and
staff
is
recommended
that
you
don't
need
okay
and
discuss
that
presence.
Should
that
direction
you
want
to
go
so
I.
Obviously,
I
want
to
jump
into
the
legal
advice
I'm
just
making
you
work
because
we're
all
new
to
this.
My
understanding
plan,
commission.
E
Yes,
you
can
ask
for
more
that
you
want,
but
subject
to
your
legal
advice
saying.
Is
it
right
to
ask
this
development
to
do
that
that
and
that
am
I
always
going
to
ask
that?
Is
it
just
this
case?
That's
that
you're
all
called
to
handle,
but
from
the
era
perspective,
we're
discussing
staff
and
considers
36
trips.
I
was
through
the
whole
traffic
study,
ordinance
and
the
changes,
and
there's
that
Latitude,
it's
not
just
on
trips,
based
on
some
other
factors
and
base
how
some
other
projects
that
went
through
appeals
boards
and
mid.
E
M
M
G
Stage
four
has
to
incorporate
one
two
and
three:
yes,
sir,
what
about
your
and
Mr
Villa
alluded
to
it.
The
the
control
of
the
rate
from
the
storm
wanted
to
run
off
there
right.
You
feel
like
you're,
going
to
be
able
to
achieve
that
with
that
outfall
pipe,
absolutely
inside
that
that
great
requirements.
M
Not
only
we're
not
going
to
impact
it,
but
we're
going
to
make
it
better
about.
You
know
swapping
out
those
coverts,
like
we've
discussed
multiple
times
that
we're
going
to
help
them
with
the
drainage
by
making
it
better.
You
know
our
obligation
is
to
take
a
50-year
storm
and
reduce
it
to
90
percent
of
a
10-year
storm,
but
we've
done
that.
M
We've
taken
the
50-year
storm
and
reduced
it
to
a
70
percent
of
a
10-year
storm,
so
we've
reduced
the
flow,
that's
coming
off
the
site
and
added
on
top
of
that,
we're
changing
now
to
go
over.
It's
cleaning
out
the
ditches.
You
know,
thinking
of
the
bus
covered
and
improving
the
situation
not
just
leaving
it
like,
we
found
it
or
making
it
better.
G
M
G
H
M
It
inside
the
right
away
inside
of
our
private
right-of-way,
the
the
typical
Ascension
Parish
typical
section,
shows
the
sidewalk
on
the
Lots
in
this.
In
all
other
municipalities
anywhere
else,
the
sidewalk
is
right
inside
the
right-of-way
and
that's
all
we
just
that's,
you
know
still
building
sidewalks
still.
You
know
five
foot
sidewalk
same
thing,
just
putting
them
a
little
bit
further
away
from
the
houses.
M
A
I
have
one
more
question
for
Mr
Cheryl
I'm,
sorry
to
keep
asking
you
questions.
It's
been
a
while,
but
it
has
been
a
while,
but
as
far
as
the
drainage,
the
resize
and
the
Culvers
and
cleaning
out
the
existing
blockages,
Etc
and
I
understand
that's
going
to
improve
the
situation
on
your
development.
Is
there
any
consideration
of
the
downstream
impacts,
because
you'll
have
a
faster
flow
moving
Downstream.
E
They
are
detaining
their
water
before
it
leaves
their
site
actually
over
detaining
Okay,
so
they
can
almost
get
by
on
this
project
by
not
touching
really
any
pipes
Downstream
because
they're
decreasing
it.
They
from
DPW
discussions,
saying
I,
know:
there's,
there's
I
see,
there's
an
existing
maintenance
problem
and
some
are
just
not
meeting
the
level
that
they
need
when
we
analyze
it
for
the
design
storm
requirements.
E
E
J
Yeah,
so
I
got
a
little
bit
of
knowledge
on
this.
One
I
was
actually
on
the
the
commission
when
this
first
came
to
us
in
2017..
There's
some
things.
I
knew
then
that
I
I
didn't
know,
then
that
I
know
now
and
so
I'm.
Definitely
looking
at
this
from
a
from
a
different
perspective,
now
Mr
Mickey,
just
kind
of
give
you
a
little
bit
of
information.
You
mentioned
about
the
the
super
fund.
That's
where
I'm
going
to
start
on
this.
J
Some
pertinent
dates
deleted
from
the
national
priorities
list
in
1999,
11,
16
1999,
that's
straight
from
their
website.
It
achieved
a
Statewide
sitewide
ready
for
anticipated
reuse
in
2007.,
so
per
EPA
guidelines
in
2007
they
say
that
this
could
put
that
potential
site
could
be
slated
for
certain
things
of
reuse.
Anytime.
You
have
a
Superfund
Site.
You
can't
just
go
build
whatever
you
want
on
top
of
there.
They
have
a
lot
of
restrictions.
J
That
being
said,
the
neighborhood
adjacent
to
it,
the
Eep.
Sooner
than
later,
if
y'all
are
able
to
proceed,
my
other
concern
is:
we
have
10
units
potential
units.
Their
backyard
is
next
to
that
Superfund
Site
150
feet
200
feet
from
from
that
area,
and
then
you
have
two
outfalls
two.
You
know
areas
where
per
our
code,
where
you
know
exits
for
potential
expansion.
M
J
Understand,
but
this
design,
you
were
intent,
I'm
not
saying
you're
doing
this
with
with
malice,
but
you're
gonna
have
to
dictate
on
those
extra
outfalls.
This
area
is
here
for
potential
expansion.
There
will
be
no
expansion
on
those.
That's
misleading,
I,
don't
agree
with
that.
I
think
this
needs
to
be
redesigned
personally.
J
I
think
this
is
you've
met
the
minimum
requirements
and
it's
kind
of
been
thrown
at
there,
but
I
think
that
if
you
had,
in
my
opinion
respectfully
a
little
bit
of
creativity
in
what
these
requirements
are,
I
think
we
need
to
start
requesting
that
we
have
some
some
better
standards.
This
is
just
meeting
the
minimum
and
and
how
these
outfalls
are
going.
Just
doesn't
really
cut
it.
J
J
M
And
I
do
want
to
mention
that
you
know
the
the
still
bows
to
adjacent
property
are
a
requirement
of
your
uldc.
Absolutely
so
it
wasn't.
It
was
obviously
No
Malice.
There
was
obviously
no
amount
content
about
no
well
we're
just
going
to
throw
them
on.
There.
I
mean
that's
required.
Had
we
not
shown
those
stub
outs,
we
would
not
have
gotten
a
recommendation
to
approve
from
the
staff
right.
H
J
M
J
M
R
J
J
What
I
wanted
to
know
this
being
a
small
private,
subdivision
and
I
say
private
in
the
sense
of
you're
going
to
have
private
roads?
You
have
a
stage
four
amenity
area,
you
kind
of
mentioned
that
this
is
not
going
to
be
a
fifty
dollars
a
month.
Hoa
fee
I
know
what
my
HOA
fee
is
right
now
and
it's
just
going
up
and
we
have
an
80
or
90
lot
subdivision
with
not
necessarily
these
amenities.
J
M
J
Anything
so
Silver,
Oaks
off
of
Germany
has
a
similar
design
right.
They're
HOA
fees
are
eight
to
nine
hundred
dollars
a
year
and
it
has
a
similar
thing
and
they
don't
have
a
private
road
right.
That's
kind
of
what
I'm
gauging
on
so
you
may
unintentionally,
with
this
design
and
look
you're
marketing
and
and
whether
it
succeeds
or
fails.
That's
not
our
business
right,
but
I
just
bring
up
the
fact
that
you
could
potentially
have
12
13
1400
a
year,
HOA
fees
and
that
might
not
be
a
good
business
decision.
A
J
J
A
M
You
know
that
if
there
were
concerns
I
felt
like
we
addressed
them,
I
certainly
think
what
staff
has
indicated
is
that
there
is
an
opportunity
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
with
some
stipulations
of.
Maybe
we
don't
step
out
to
the
adjacent
property
beyond
that
I,
don't
know
what
other
design
changes
you
know
anybody
may
have
recommended
that
we
did
not
agree
to,
or
you
know
we'll
answer
appropriately.
M
Sir,
we
couldn't
we're
at
the
maximum
number
of
lots,
so
it
would
only
be
36
Lots
still,
okay.
So
what
what
could
happen
is
we
could
shorten
that
road
up
by
50
feet,
so
the
last
lot
has
access
from
the
end
of
the
road
and
then
that
stops
anybody
from
potentially
tying
in
later.
That
would
be
a
simple
recommendation
and
simple
request
that
we
could
accommodate.
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
close
commission
discussion.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
We
we
have
to
our
have
to
request
a
motion,
so
we
can
move
forward
on
this
one
way
or
the
other
I
think
that
you
know
I
agree
with
Mr
Mickey
and
he's
answered
a
lot
of
questions,
but
Cheryl's
answered
a
lot
of
questions.
The
staff's
answered
a
lot
of
questions,
but
we
do
need
to
move
forward
so
I'm
requesting
a
motion.
Okay,.
J
J
J
M
I
asked
we
don't
have
a
problem
with
doing
a
Journeys
work
first,
but
we
would
like
that
to
be
part
of
our
construction
plan.
Approval
I
mean
like
we'd,
like
it
to
all,
be
put
in
my
staging
to
work
that
way,
but
we
would
prefer
to
have
everything
you
know
because
it
all
it's
all
tied
together,
but
we
would
like
to
have
that
part
of
it.
You
know
proved
as
part
of
the
construction
plans.
If
that
makes
sense,
it.
I
J
I
want
to
make
sure
like
what
Sean
said.
I
want
to
double
double
stamp
that
that
those
74
improvements
will
be
done
and
preferably
in
a
more
timely
manner
than
possible.
But
so
my
motion
will
officially
be
to
approve
with
the
removal
of
the
two
stub
outs
and
that
the
74
improvements
in
the
drainage
study
absolutely
be
taken.
Care
of.