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Planning Commission - March 8, 2023
A
Okay,
this
meeting
of
the
Ascension
Parish
Planning
Commission,
is
called
to
order.
This
is
the
March
8th,
2023
meeting
six
o'clock
P.M.
We
are
at
the
Ascension
Parish
courthouse
607
East
worthy
Road,
Gonzales,
Louisiana,
70737.
A
And
the
council
chambers
on
the
first
floor,
can
we
do
a
roll
call
of
members?
Please
Mark.
A
And
that's
it
got
everybody.
Okay,
I
got
confused
because
two
of
y'all
sit
here
at
the
same
time:
okay,
we're
gonna,
do
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
Mr
Knoll.
Please.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
Chairman's
comments.
I
only
have
I
only
have
two
comments.
One
is
that
there's
a
March
25th
meeting,
I'm
sorry
March
25th
election
relative
to
a
school
board.
Millage
just
want
to
encourage
everyone
to
vote
I'm,
not
taking
a
position
on
it
either
way.
Let
me
make
that
clear.
A
Also,
we
did
have
a
resignation
from
the
Planning
Commission
Todd
Bernardo
he's
going
off
to
seek
some
other
goals.
Personal
goals
I
just
want
to
he's
not
here,
but
I
still
want
to
thank
him
for
his
his
service
and
let
him
know
that
I
appreciate
his
his
well-reasoned
judgment.
A
C
G
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
gentlemen,
members
of
Planning
Commission
you'll,
see
in
front
of
you
the
normal
subdivision
status
report.
Any
changes
have
noted
with
an
asterisk.
The
only
really
notable
change
is
at
Moss
side
Villas,
which
was
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
primary
flat
last
month.
We're
waiting
for
their
construction
drawings.
All
others
are
in
construction,
and
we've
got
a
couple
two
or
three
that
in
the
next
month
or
two
are
going
to
be
coming
to
you
for
final
applied
approval.
A
Actually
I
do
have
a
question,
and
this
this
is
not
aimed
at
anything
in
particular,
it's
just
for
for
me
to
know.
I've
noticed
some
of
some
of
the
approvals
happened
seven
eight
years
ago
and
the
subdivisions
are
not
yet
fully
developed.
G
Is
a
time
limit,
basically,
prior
to
about
a
year
and
a
half
or
two
years
ago,
the
subdivisions
all
they
had
to
do
was
start
construction.
We
had
an
opinion
from
legal
that
the
start
of
construction
could
be
something
as
simple
as
turning
a
shovel
of
dirt
over
on
a
project.
So
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
we
amended
the
code
to
specifically
Define
what
the
start
of
construction
was.
Then
there
are
some
of
them.
G
We
would
note
it
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
let
the
applicant
know
that
their
subdivision
was
going
to
expire
because
it
has
and
then
they'd
go
out
there
and
do
something
and
then
we'd
bring
it
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
it
was
was
good.
So,
but
those
are
just
about
gone,
so
the
ones
that
are
on
here
there's
two
or
three
of
them
and
once
those
are
gone
then,
then
that
should
not
be
An
Occurrence
in
the
future
and.
A
And
then,
as
that
relates
to
any
new
or
our
current
applications,
does
that
lag
in
those
developments?
Is
that
considered
in
the
impact
studies
at
all
for
the
traffic
and
the
drainage.
G
G
Studies,
the
traffic
and
drainage
impact
studies-
all
of
that
was
when
they
applied
for
their
original
preliminary
plant.
Now,
if
they
come
through
to
do
a
major
revision
to
their
preliminary
plaque,
then
we
make
them
update
things
depending
on
what
it
is
that
they're
asking
for,
but
yeah
when
they're
approved
on
their
original
preliminary
plot,
they
they
go
under
the
the
code
that
existed
at
the
time
of.
A
G
A
H
F
Sharo
no
report
this
evening.
A
Okay,
so
now
we're
going
to
consider
the
minutes.
That's
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
motion.
A
Have
a
motion
to
approve
Mr,
Sheck
Schneider
second,
by
Mr
Villa,
any
discussion
nope,
let's
cast
our
votes
and
I'm
gonna
we're
gonna
use
the
machines.
So,
let's
vote
please.
A
Okay,
six
years-
and
there
are
only
six
Commissioners
six
years-
it's
unanimous.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
consent
agenda,
which
is
Affidavit
of
mortgage
declarations.
Sean
masseyofava
Lot,
B,
2,
14,
184,
JD,
Broussard
Road
Gonzales
Louisiana.
Do
we
have
a
motion
for
many
of
the
commissioners.
A
Again,
six
years,
it's
it's
unanimous
next
item
on
the
agenda
is:
are
public
hearings
to
approve
or
deny
the
following
family
partitions
remind
everyone
during
the
during
I'm?
Sorry,
during
the
public
comment
period
that
you're
as
a
as
a
member
of
the
public
making
comments.
It's
a
our
bylaws
limited
to
three
minutes
per
speaker,
so
Mr
Marshall
fava
or
someone
representing
but
I'm
sorry
Mr,
Sheikh,
Schneider,
it's
c-shek
Snyder
and
track
Lots,
one
e
one:
a
and
one
e
one
b,
t
Becca
Smith,
I'm,
sorry
Council,
District
Two.
J
Is
a
section
of
land
on
the
West
Bank
waiting
for
approval
for
family
partition
at
the
end
of
the
property
and
has
been
divided
into
five
of
us,
and
this
section
is
at
the
end
of
GoPro
Road
and
is
allowing
family
partition
to
be
divided.
A
Okay,
do
we
have
anyone
from
the
public
wishes
to
speak
on
this
family
petition.
A
No
one
staff.
A
B
Ellen
Jackson
with
McLean
Taylor,
representing
this
family
partitions
just
so
that
this
air
property
can
be
subdivided
and
they
each
get
their
Lots
asking
for
your
approval.
Thank.
G
Chairman,
the
only
thing
is
I
mean
all.
There
were
no
comments,
there's
nothing
to
be
addressed
on
the
map
due
to
space
constraints.
The
applicant
is
asking
to
allow
to
waive
the
requirement
for
the
30-foot
servitude
of
Passage
and
allow
there
to
be
a
20-foot
servitude
of
Passage.
So
in
your
approval,
if
you
would
address
that-
and
you
know
prove
it
or
deny
it
when
you,
when
you
vote
yeah
I'm
gonna,
let.
A
Me,
let
me
do
this
before
we
get
into
the
commission
discussion.
Would
you
like
to
address
that
item.
B
Yes,
because
of
the
size,
and
since
it's
going
to
be
just
to
that
one
lot
and
no
further
divisions
will
be
allowed
unless
there
are
others-
and
they
have
granted
this
in
the
past
for
just
24
for
just
one
lot.
So,
okay.
K
B
B
K
A
busy
enough
Highway
that
you
know
that
30-foot
access
is
what
they're
requiring.
Are
we
still
going
to
require
the
20,
the
the
standard,
apron.
G
L
G
L
A
K
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve,
but
to
deny
the
waiver
for
the
the
30
foot
there.
B
G
Because
it's
a
corner
they're
allowed
to
cut
the
the
set
back
in
half
they
do
if
it
makes
you
feel
any
better.
If
you,
if
you
look
at
it,
sometimes
they'll
ask
these
20-foot
access,
servitus
and
they'll,
let
making
an
all-purpose
servitude
and
have
the
utilities
included
in
there,
but
in
this
one
they
do
have
a
separate
utility
server
too.
So
the
20-foot
would
be
totally
for
the
driveway
and
it
would
not
be
a
multi-purpose
servitude.
So
if
that
helps,
you
make
a
decision.
Okay,.
A
The
motion
on
the
floor
is
to
improve
without
the
without
the
20-foot
waiver
being
granted.
Is
there
a
second.
A
A
G
G
M
A
L
G
Yes,
sir,
the
the
Phantom
petition
meets
all
the
the
requirements
of
the
code,
and
comments
have
been
addressed.
There's
one
thing
that
I'm
noticing
on
there
is
that
the
this
happened
to
be
submitted.
Probably
two
months.
There
was
another
one
on
the
property,
it's
just
to
the
east
of
it
in
this
servitude
that
he's
showing
his
proposed
is
actually
existing,
because
that
map
was
recorded
as
they
were
going
through
this
process.
So
that's
the
only
item,
so
the
servitude
is
existing.
Will
change
that
on
the
matter
before
it's
signed
and
recorded.
Okay.
G
Gummies,
yes,
sir,
the
only
the
only
thing
about
this,
you
may
notice
that
the
furniture
knows
Lots,
C1,
B
and
c1c
is
78
feet
which
would
not
meet
our
requirements
for
Frontage
for
a
simple
division.
But
since
this
is
a
family
petition,
we
got
an
opinion
from
legal
and
these
Lots
would
have
been
cut
off
from
the
public
road
Frontage
anyway.
So
that
is
not
a
factor.
They
also
have
a
30-foot
servitude
of
passage
on
either
side
between
the
lots
and
you'll
notice.
G
A
Unanimous
next
item
is
Cheryl:
M,
props
property,
Trax,
b1a,
b1b
and
b1c.
G
Yes,
sir,
this
the
all
comments
have
been
addressed
and
this
does
meet
the
code.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I'll
answer
them.
A
Okay,
it
sounds
like
you
already
did
Commissioners
in
the
any
comment
questions
motion,
yeah.
I
Mr
Sheikh
Schneider
Eric
did
they
did
they
address
the
structure?
That's
that's
in
the
the
20-foot
building
line
is
that
is
that
the
one
that
I'm
or
am
I
mistaking
on
that
one.
N
K
N
Miss
Amy
Copa
lives
on
the
lot.
If
you
look
at
the
thing
B2
in
the
back,
that's
her
current
house
right
there.
This
was
her
mom's
house
that
she
inherited
so
she's
dividing
up
between
the
three
her
three
sons:
okay,.
L
N
A
Congratulations:
three
for
three
yeah
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
Wilbur
Dempsey
property
tracks,
wb1wb
I'm,
sorry,
wbd,
one
wbd2
and
wbd3.
So
if
you
your.
G
Yes,
sir,
this
was
a
property
that
was,
it
was
granted
Mr
Denson
and
his
cousin
were
granted
ownership
of
this
property.
They
had
an
agreement
whereby
they
would
divide
the
property
and
that's
why
he's
coming
to
you
with
a
family
partition
because
they
no
longer
wish
to
own
the
property
together
it
meets
the
code,
they
do
have
a
35
foot,
all-purpose
servitude
coming
from
both
Highway
74
and
between
Mr
Dempsey's,
existing
lost,
wd-4
and
wd5.
G
So
seeing
that
that
would
probably
require
you
to
to
grant
them
a
waiver
for
the,
because
that
one
would
include
the
12-foot
utility
servitude
or
the
utilities
would
be
included
in
that
all-purpose
servitude.
G
Well,
I
mean
if
you
look
at
it
from
the
one
way:
if,
if
because
they're
going
to
access
the
Lots,
they
can
access
the
lot
from
one
way
and
put
the
utilities
in
another
one,
so
they
they've
got
ways
to
access
it,
because
they've
actually
got
two
35
foot,
all-purpose
servitudes
there.
So
myself
personally,
I
wouldn't
be
concerned
about
them
having
room
to
do
what
they
needed
today.
Similar.
L
A
I
A
Wait:
I
I'm,
sorry,
the
the
public
hearing
is
is
actually
over
on
this.
We
have
a
motion
and
we've
been
casting
our
votes.
Are
you?
Are
you
one
of
the
property
owners.
D
A
A
F
A
Next
item
on
the
agenda
would
be
ordinances
for
public
hearing
to
recommend
approval
or
denial
to
the
parish
council
amendments
to
the
Ascension
Parish,
unified,
Land,
Development
code
item.
A
has
been
removed
from
the
agenda
prior
to
the
meeting
that
was
to
amend
the
Ascension
Parish,
unified,
Land
Development
code
to
add
appendix
15
traffic.
Calming
Item
B
is
to
amend
the
Ascension
Parish
unified,
Land
Development
code,
appendix
5
drainage,
section.
A
E
Mr
chairman,
yes,
sir
yeah,
if
I
might
introduce
you
introduce
this
item,
what
we're
doing
is
trying
to
change
the
the
drainage
portion
of
unified,
Land
Development
code
to
accommodate
construction
as
it
begins.
As
the
project
begins.
We
have
approved
construction
plans
that
outline
the
grading
pattern,
all
the
drainage
where,
where
ponds
are
located
and
everything
else
on
the
property,
but
during
the
process
of
the
construction
we
sometimes
have
issues
with
the
perimeter
around
the
site
and
how
that
how
that
water
is
draining
around
that
perimeter.
E
What
we're
doing
is
adding
a
section
here
called
f
and
I'll.
Read
it
to
you
for
new
development
or
Redevelopment,
which
incorporates
a
perimeter
drainage
system
that
is
designed
to
intercept
and
redirect
stormwater
runoff
away
from
adjacent
properties.
The
perimeter
Drainage
Systems
shall
be
completely
constructed
and
functional
prior
to
the
construction
of
other
improvements
within
the
government
or
Redevelopment.
E
The
perimeter
drainage
system
shall
be
maintained
to
be
fully
functional
during
for
the
duration
of
the
construction,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
avoid
stormwater
runoff
getting
into
neighboring
properties
right
so
that
we
had
that
and
I'd
like
to
introduce
Mr
Michael
piku.
Michael
is
our
stormwater
manager.
He
manages
our
ms-4
permit
for
the
parish
and
he
can
add
a
little
perspective
to
this
as
well.
All
right,
yes,
thank
you.
Mr.
C
Basically,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
codify
the
perimeter
drainage
around
these
properties,
so
we
had
a
lot
of
issues
with
flooding
from
a
previous
development
and
we
just
want
to
prevent
that
in
the
future.
So
a
lot
of
construction
takes
place
and
they
don't
maintain
the
perimeter
drainage
they're,
aware
of
it.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
addressed
and
it's
codified.
That's,
basically
what
we're
trying
to
do.
A
E
The
we
we
do
have
the
ability
to
find,
but
we
also
have
the
ability
to
place
a
stop
work
order
on
the
project,
and
we
have
done
that
in.
In
fact,
the
project
that
came
into
play
that
really
forced
us
to
make
this
change.
We
did
put
a
stop
work
order
on
them
until
they
could
get
the
perimeter
of
the
project
secured
from
a
drainage
perspective.
Okay,.
A
K
How
is
this
going
to
be
implemented?
Is
it
going
to
be
a
part
of
the
application
process
that
DPW
says
here's
the
standards
that
we
need
addressed
at
you
know
each
particular
site.
You
know
here's
the
guidelines
that
we
want
you
to
do
to
follow
here's,
the
implementation,
procedures
or
processes.
You
know
how
are
they
going
to
know
what
needs
to
be
done
and
what
they
have
to
continue
to
do
during
construction.
G
I
mean
basically,
when
we
reviewed
construction
plans,
there's
going
to
be
perimeter,
drainage,
drainage
patterns
have
shown
what
happens.
Is
you
get
these
large,
very
large
projects
that
are
done
in
multi-phase?
It's
a
lot
of
these
guys
think
that
they
have
enough
time
they're
going
to
have
great
weather
and
they're
going
in.
They
take
care
of.
G
And
they
don't
worry
sometimes
about
things,
and
then
they
get
caught
with
the
pants
down
so
to
speak
and
they
have
problems
now.
What
we
want
to
do
is
we
want
to
make
sure
that
if
overall,
they
have
a
perimeter
drainage
because
they're
supposed
to
take
all
of
their
water
and
direct
it
toward
the
stormwater
ponds
discharge
it
at
a
certain
rate,
and
all
of
that-
and
this
is
going
to
qualify
us
as
Mr
picou,
said
that
they
have
to
do
that,
so
it
has
to
be
addressed
during
construction.
G
Our
construction
inspectors
are
out
there
on
a
daily
basis,
and
anything-
that's
not
addressed
as
it
should
be
addressed
can
result
in
a
stop
work
on
it.
So
that's
it
will
be
enforced
through
the
construction
document.
Review
process
will
know
what
has
to
happen,
we'll
address
it
with
DPW
and
all
the
different
departments
in
the
pre-construction
meeting
and
then
through
our
inspections
on
through
construction,
as
as
construction
moves
forward.
K
Sort
of
like
that
last
Mall,
Side
village,
where
they
identified
the
areas
and
the
problems
prior
to
the
construction.
G
K
E
K
E
You
know
we
have
three
subdivision
inspectors
who
are
in
the
department
and
they're
out
in
the
field
every
day
and
they
typically
ride
by
each
project
every
day
and
if
there's
anything
happening
during
that
day,
they
will
stop
investigating
everything
else.
The
developers
also
required
to
have
a
Testing
Lab
out
there
and
they're
testing
the
materials
that
are
being
brought
into
the
site,
and
we
monitor
that
very
closely
all
right
so
outstanding.
Nothing.
M
Yeah,
so
you
mentioned,
you
did
a
stoppage
on
some
development
already.
So
this
what
amended,
ulc
or
whatever
we're
talking
about
per.
H
M
G
G
Basically,
the
way
that
it
normally
works
is
playing.
Department
gets
these
things,
they
get
the
preliminate
plot,
the
construction
documents
a
pre-con
and
they
go
on
through
construction.
Once
that
final
plight
is
signed,
any
of
the
drainage
has
either
a
private
or
public
drainage
servitude
on
it,
and
once
that
plaid
is
signed
that
becomes
under
the
purview
of
DPW.
So
we
work
in
conjunction
with
DPW
on
subdivisions
that
have
been
completed.
They
will
address
certain
issues
and
they
will
ask
us
to
address
certain
issues
so
each
as
a
problem
comes
up.
G
It
is
something
that
can
be
addressed.
But
more
to
your
point,
there
is
a
public
if
there
is
a
public
drainage
servitude
and
there
is
a
drainage
problem
that
gives
the
parish
the
right
to
go
in
there
and
address
it.
However,
it
needs
to
be
addressed
at
that
point.
It
won't
necessarily
be
developer.
It
may
be
a
homeowner.
You
know
once
the
plant
son
a
lot
sold
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
but
it
is
able
to
be
addressed.
A
G
We
address
it,
we
address
it
regardless,
based
on
the
approved
plans
and
based
on
the
ms4,
because
the
ms4
applies
to
everything
in
the
past.
With
regard
to
drainage
period
doesn't
matter,
this
is
only
a
way
for
us
to
codify
this
requirement
so
that
when
we're
in
a
pre-con
meeting
guys,
you
got
to
do
this
first
period.
So
there's
no
questions
about
it
and
we
don't
have
to
go
through
a
bunch
of
back
and
forth
with
them
and
all
of
that
stuff.
G
M
A
Item
number
six
is
to
amend
the
Ascension
Parish
unified
Land
Development
code,
appendix
4,
subdivision
regulations,
attachment
C,
typical
Street
sections.
E
Yeah
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
commission,
we're
bringing
this
to
you
tonight
because
I
think
that
there
was
some
confusion
at
a
previous
meeting
where
we
approved
a
plot
and
we're
looking
for
a
waiver.
We
had
always
been
approving
waivers.
You
know
under
the
under
the
preliminary
plants
because
we
were
looking
to
have
sidewalks
within
the
right-of-way
and
not
not
outside
the
right-of-way
okay.
So
this
changes
that
we'd
always
accomplish
that
through
the
waiver.
Now,
if
we'll
have
a
typical
section
here,
you
know
we
don't
have
to
Grant
waivers
anymore.
E
For
this,
this
will
be
part
of
the
approval
process
and
I
can
ask
Mr
Shiro
to
kind
of
expand
on
that
a
little
bit.
Mr
poche!
So
you
see
two
two
diagrams
in
your
packet.
One
is
the
existing
typical
section
and
the
other
one
is
the
proposed
typical
section
and
the
major
changes
on
that
is
where
the
right-of-way
line
lies
in
reference
to
the
sidewalk.
If
I
could
get,
the
video
on
I
I
can
show
that
on
my
computer
right.
E
The
one
this
is
typical
section
for
with
a
sidewalk,
so
here's
the
right-of-way
line
the
sidewalk
was
outside
of
the
right-of-way
and
on
both
sides.
What
we're
asking
is
that
we
move
the
right-of-way
are.
The
right-of-way
line
would
basically
be
similar
in
in
in
width,
but
the
sidewalk
is
going
to
be
inside
the
right
away
instead
of
outside
all
right,
and
this
is
typically
how
it's
being
prepared
and
all
of
our
new
subdivisions
are
being
constructed.
This
way,
we
were
just
issuing
a
waiver
so
that
they
could
do
it
this
way.
G
One
of
the
one
of
the
main
issues
is
the
fact
that
anytime
they've
got
a
punch
under
the
row
for
utilities
having
a
sidewalk
outside
of
the
right-of-way
jams
them
up
to
the
front
through
the
front
yard
of
the
house.
These
houses
are
big,
the
setbacks
are
not
big
enough
in
any
extra
room
that
we
can
give
them
is
beneficial
to
them.
It
prevents
them
from
going
on
private
property
when
they're
running
utilities.
G
A
G
To
answer
your
question,
simply
the
the
responsibility
for
the
maintenance
would
be
on
the
homeowner.
Okay,
we've
granted
waves
on
just
about
every
subdivision,
so
they
are
very
few
I,
can't
really
think
of
any
off
the
top
of
my
head,
where
they're
not
within
the
right
of
way.
We
got
with
legal,
and
this
became
an
issue
a
few
years
ago,
because
we
realized
that
the
typical
section
had
not
been
changing
ages
and
and
we
were
putting
sidewalks
within
the
right-of-way
without
getting
to
waivers.
So
we
started
getting
the
waivers.
G
A
The
sidewalk
yes
I,
asked
that
question
because
I
come
from.
You
know:
I've
lived
in
New
Orleans
for
a
long
time,
and
you
know
those
sidewalks.
That's
one
question
the
other
a
question
I
have:
is
it's
not
really
relative
to
safety
but
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
distance
from
the
from
the
traffic
to.
G
The
pedestrians,
that's
the
main
reason
that
you
see
six
inch
Max
from
the
right-of-way
line,
because
that
wasn't
on
there.
Previously,
we
don't
want
them
jamming
these
things
up
to
the
road
they
can
be
on
the
right-of-way
line
or
six
inches
away
from
the
right-of-way
line,
and
because
you
usually
have
11
and
a
half
feet
from
the
back
of
the
curb
to
the
edge
of
the
right-of-way.
A
K
G
Yeah,
that's
one
of
the
things
and
Jerome
may
remember
a
little
bit
more
than
than
me
about
that.
But
the
note
that
we
have
on
there
makes
a
sidewalk
to
responsibility
on
the
line
on
her
period
because
they
did
think
about
that
because
it
is
in
the
right-of-way.
So
it
is.
It
is
the
responsibility
based
on
the
recording
of
the
final
plight.
It
is
a
responsibility
of
the
homeowner.
A
D
I,
don't
think
that
would
be
an
issue
I
think
most
people
would
understand
that
if
they're
liable
for
repairing
this
I
walked
in
they're
also
liable.
If
anybody
would
trip
and
fall
and
get
hurt
on
it,
but
I'm
always
a
big
fan
of
the
more
words
the
better,
so
I
wouldn't
have
an
issue
with
I
had
a
recommended
change
to
add
not
only
the
responsibility
to
repair,
but
also
liability
for
any
issues
that
mayor
Ross,
I'm.
K
Any
other
questions
I
do
have
one
more.
The
variances
are
supposed
to
be
the
exception,
not
the
rule,
and
it
seems
like
in
this
case
we're
making
it
the
rule.
You
know,
there's
a
specific
section,
14903
that
zero
nine
three
that
says
you
know
all
the
guidelines.
K
You
should
be
checking
off
to
see
if
it's
absolutely
needed
to
Grant
this
variance,
not
just
you
know,
because
it
would
help
out
the
entire
area.
Well,.
G
No
I
mean
typically
I
mean
we've
been
given
a
waiver
simply
because
the
section
had
the
sidewalks
shown
outside
the
right-of-way.
You
know
you
have
setbacks,
that
change
and
all
of
that-
and
it
is
not
so
much
necessarily
for
convenience.
It's
it's
also
from
a
safety
standpoint.
Looking
at
the
closer
the
sidewalk
is
to
the
street
the
less
disturbance
there
is
going
to
be.
G
A
I
I.
What
about
if
we
were
to
increase
the
setback
of
the
of
the
structures
and
create
more
space
in
front
of
the
house,
which
might
mean
the
developers
would
have
to
make
the
lots
a
little
deeper.
K
G
Because
the
parish
has
franchise
agreements
with
a
lot
of
these
people,
so
there's
some
some
legal
stuff
that
would
probably
have
to
be
looked
at
and
viewed
and
see
what
can
be
done
and
couldn't
be
done
so
I
mean.
But
it's
certainly,
if
that's
something
that
you
want
us
to
investigate
further
I
mean
if
you
ask
us
to
do
that,
we'd
be
more
than
happy
to
do.
K
G
K
G
F
I
guess
I
got
some
some
comments
here.
First,
you
know
engineering
wise
most
projects,
there's
a
lot
of
Roads.
You
go
typically
the
distance
that
you
need
that
you
bring
a
sidewalk
all
the
way
up
to
two
feet
behind
the
curb.
That's
how
close
you
can
be
and
you
still
meet
code,
so
we're
not
even
getting
close
to
that
with
the
six
inch
Max.
So,
instead
of
us,
bringing
it
towards
the
roadway
is
still
not
even
just
engineering
standards,
even
close
to
being
a
safety
concern.
F
The
main
thing,
a
big
push
that,
in
my
opinion,
well,
it's
not
really
it's
when
it
was
made.
I
don't
know
when
it
was
is
maybe
9,
10
or
11.
A
big
push
was
to
make
new
subdivisions
in
Ascension
Parish
walkable.
It
was
a
big
deal
and
they
required
sidewalks
outside
the
roads.
She
didn't
realize
the
furthest.
The
more
did
you
move
the
sidewalk
further
from
the
road,
that's
more
likely
where
people
have
their
cars
parked
on
top
of
it.
I
live
in
similar
subdivisions.
F
You
move
towards
the
house,
people
Park
in
their
actual
driveways,
they
overlap
Where
the
Sidewalk
crosses.
So
what
do
people
do
when
they
run
well,
if
it's
I
have
to
walk
around
people's
cars?
I'll
just
go
walk
on
the
street,
so
the
further
you
move
it
from
the
street
in
residential
subdivisions.
You
are
actually
discouraging
this
very
expensive
use
of
having
a
sidewalk
throughout
the
entire
subdivision.
F
I
live
in
the
subdivisions.
The
subdivision
wasn't
required
to
sort
of
volunteer
process,
I
think
from
the
developer
and
very
busy
weekends.
We
have
it
close
towards
the
road,
but
there's
other
subdivisions
they
got
to
push
back
and
everyone's
cars
is
parked
on
top
across
it
to
where
I
mean
it's,
it's
part
of
their
driveway
and
then
no
one
uses
they
just
walk
in
the
street
anyway.
A
F
I
have
a
I
have
another
question
everything
what
we're
proposing
here.
I
know
it
always
this
isn't
new.
This
is
a
very
standard
practice
and
well.
I
know
Elise
and
East
Baton,
Rouge,
Parish
I
know
we're
always
supposed
to
be
just
copying.
I
guess
a
status
quo,
but
this
isn't
something
that's
unique.
East
Baton,
Rouge
Parish
is
within
the
right-of-way.
F
They
have
the
same
type
of
nodes.
It
says
make
sure
it's
clearly
as
private
is
to
be
maintained
by
the
homeowners.
This
isn't
a
newer
concept,
especially
with
our
local
Developers
I,
am
not
a
fan
of
imposing
sleeves
and
other
things
underneath
the
sidewalks.
It
causes
more
issue
and
harm
than
what
you
would
have
on
any
utilities
that
were
to
board
most
of
them,
utility
companies
actually
install
utilities
for
the
sidewalk
gets
placed.
F
So
it's
it's
really
not
an
issue
and
the
more
conduits
you
put
under
things
under
sidewalks
you're
actually
purposely
creating
voids
that
allows
stuff
to
fill
into
the
Caps
of
those
unused
conduits
and
you
have
more
construction
issues
so
things
just
settling
and
you'll
start
seeing
parts
of
sidewalks
in
people's
yards
actually
settling
because
you
have
these
old
plastic
conduits
in
that's,
Parts
have
been
used
or
haven't
been
used.
Okay,.
A
Well,
I
think
that
from
an
engineering
standpoint,
that
issue
can
be
addressed,
I
do
have
another
question,
and-
and
this
is
like
I-
don't
want
you
to
feel
like
I'm
asking
this
because
I'm
trying
to
give
you
a
hard
time.
Yes,
but
you
mentioned
that
that
it's
engineering
standards,
the
two
feet
from
the
roadway
I
think,
is
what
you
said.
That's
typical.
A
F
F
H
A
Okay,
Ashton
was
the
what
up
was
what
I
was
looking
for?
The
standard,
okay,
Mr.
K
Miller,
you,
you
said
about
putting
the
software
closer.
Does
that
not
I
mean
essentially
erode
the
idea
of
the
right-of-way?
To
begin
with,
you
put
you,
you
go
in
there,
we
put
the
utilities
in
and
then
we
pour
the
concrete
on
top
of
it,
and
then
we
come
back
we're
going
to
put
Regional
sewer
or
we
have
to
change
the
gas
line.
Now
you've
already
put
the
concrete
on
top
of
right,
the
right-of-way
that
is
intended
for
that
utilities
access.
K
K
F
K
F
F
They
were
to
to
cross
it
just
to
get
across
the
roadway
and
they
have
franchise.
Agreements
are
allowed
to
cross
it,
but
that's.
The
purpose
of
this
utility
servitude
is
to
show
that
there
is
sufficient
room.
Should
the
rare
extreme
case
that
every
single
utility
decides
to
all
install
on
both
sides
of
the
road
which
no
one
usually
water
lines
on
one
side,
the
other
people
go
on
the
other
side,
there's
enough
room
for
utility
servitudes.
F
Yes,
that's
right
right
now,
whatever
proposing
is
not
being
within
the
utility
servitude,
it's
staying
when
you
think
about
the
the
incentive
public
right-of-way
is
it's
a
transportation
needs
sidewalks
are
moves
of
Transportation,
so
it's
just
bundling
things
up
within
a
a
public
right
away.
Okay,.
I
Yeah
and
I
I
completely
understand
and
I
appreciate
that
we're
finally
taking
out
the
waivers
I
I
saw
it
last
month
and
and
and
this
is
appreciated-
this
is
needed.
One
of
the
only
questions
I
had
was
as
far
as
putting
the
bricks
in
the
drainage
structures.
Can
you
elaborate
on
that
I
know
what
you
said
about
having
a
Precast
actions.
F
That
shows
you
how
old
this
standard
plan
is
so
we've
just
it's
like
a
lot
of
play.
Is
it
easier
just
ask
for
waivers
or
go
actually
amend
the
code,
so
we're
actually
trying
to
do
things
right?
Let's
just
get
the
code
straighten
out
what
we
always
intended
and
really
what
we've
been
following
for
many
many
years.
H
F
Years,
it
wasn't
even
noticed
and
they
were
screening
the
approval
anyway,
because
it
was,
you
know,
there's
a
requirement
Plumbing
plant
to
show
the
typical
section
so
and
they
drew
the
sidewalk
with
the
way
they
were
proposing
now.
So
some
people
thought
well
if
it's
on
the
plat
and
that's
what
I
approve,
there's
no
need
to
fall
in
request,
a
waiver,
because
it's
on
there
we
just
once
we
got
in
just
to
make
sure
it
was
Loctite.
We
were
as
we
went
to
the
process,
let's
formally
say
it
out
loud.
F
Let's
ask
for
the
waiver,
even
though
you're
showing
it
on
your
plats
and
never
had
any
issues,
and
the
guy
next
was
like
wait.
This
is
getting
out
of
hand,
let's
just
change
what
we've
always
been
wanting
for,
probably
up
to
10
years,
the
practice
of
it,
especially
when
they
change
that
sidewalk
ordinance
are
required.
Let's
just
go
ahead
and
just
clean
things
up.
This
is
cleaning
up
what
many
Planning
Commission
staffs
even
before
us,
and
those
have
been
asking
for
in
requests,
have
been
improving.
F
It's
just
don't
dance
around
or
accidental
include
the
waiver
in
the
motion
to
request,
and
then
we
got
to
go
backwards.
We're
just
clean
up
based
on
what
others
and
many
many
plants
prior
to
you
all
even
prior
to
us
have
always
been
approving
as
considered
as
the
norm.
Let's
just
fix
the
ordinance.
I
F
I
And
I
agree
with
that
and
I
do
appreciate
it,
but
what
I
was
asking
about
the
remove
the
bricks
from
the
drainage
structure
shot
that
that
specific
issue?
So
are
you
saying
that
and
I'm
just
going
to
make
up
a
scenario
if,
in
a
drainage
structure,
can
I'm
no
longer
allowed
as
a
developer
to
create
a
drainage
basin
with
CMU
bricks?
Instead,
I
have
to
use
a
Precast.
C
I
F
I
F
A
No
seriously
I
do
it's
a
very
good
explanation
on
all
of
the
items
we
brought
up.
I
have.
K
F
And
the
six
inch
Max,
that's
a
good
standard
practice
because
remember
that
is
the
definition
of
prop
property
line.
It's
much
easier,
not
to
tell
people
that
you
have
to
go
on
the
prop.
You
know
you
know
that
little
distance
because
you
start
having
property
pins
and
it
just
becomes-
becomes
an
issue
so.
F
And
so
what
I
see
what
Eric
and
them
have
presented?
Has
that
note
at
the
bottom?
All
structures
shall
be
according
to
the
subdivision
structure
specifications.
We
don't
need
one
to
imply.
This
is
supposed
to
be
high
level
detail
to
imply
that
override
construction
specifications
and
everything
intense.
So
we
added
that
note
in
the
bottom
right
and
you
see
that
six
inch
Max
note
is
already
on
there
on
your
proposed
typical
section
sheet.
Okay,.
L
A
It
makes
a
motion
to
recommend
to
make
he
makes
a
motion
that
we
recommend
to
the
council.
They
go
for
with
this
second
yeah
segment.
This
is
Shaq's
night
and
I'm
going
to
ask
if
you
would
consider
adding
to
your
motion
that
the
note
relative
to
the
maintenance
of
the
sidewalk
also
includes
the
liability.