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Strategic Planning Committee - July 12, 2022
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B
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A
A
You
know
running
out
the
doors,
I'm
thinking
a
ultimate
budget
to
be
able
to
do.
One
round
of
the
project
is
10
million
dollars.
That
would
be
a
million
dollars
per
district,
but
as
patrick
and
I
were
talking
we're
not
going
to
do
all
the
projects
at
once,
it's
going
to
take
time
to
vet
the
projects.
A
There's
going
to
be
all
the
criteria
you
have
to
meet.
So
if
we
do
it
correctly,
we
could
have
each
councilman
put
in
their
request.
The
request
is
not
to
meet
the
guidelines
kind
of
like
the
one
we
approved
already
it'll,
have
to
deal
with
road
and
or
drainage,
we'll
kind
of
tweak
those
out
once
we
have
the
each
councilman
has
the
project
and
it
meets
the
checklist
and
the
guidelines.
A
Now,
ultimately,
when
we
get
enough
money
in
the
fund,
it
would
be
great
to
be
able
to
do
it
once
a
year
or
even
every
other
year,
but
the
reason
that
we're
going
to
keep
this
across
the
board
and
fair
is
because
whoever
gets
the
first
one
or
the
second
winner,
the
third
one.
They
will
not
get
another
dollar
through
this
fund.
A
The
administration
has
been
really
good
about,
looking
at
the
numbers,
putting
the
diet
out
there
and
making
decisions,
but
they
have
certain
developments
in
certain
people
that
kind
of
slip
through
cracks.
With
this,
you
know
you
have
your
established
development
that
that's
been
there
for
a
long
time,
in
particular
the
one
I'm
talking
about,
or
that
I
would
like
to
submit
for
me
would
be
pelican
point.
You
know
it's
an
older
subdivision.
A
It's
got
some
problems
with
the
road
with
the
drainage
and
you
know
it's
an
asset
to
the
community
and
that's
it
to
the
parish.
But
when
you
look
at
the
priorities-
and
you
look
at
the
numbers
and
the
system
that
we're
doing
now-
that's
not
coming
up
on
the
it's
not
going
to
come
up.
So
I
guess
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
floor,
see
what
your
suggestions
are.
D
A
A
It
would
behoove
us
to
look
and
see
what
type
of
grant
money
we
can
get
for
each
of
these
projects,
whether
it
be
a
criteria
that
you
have
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
grant
money
for
us
to
pick
the
project
or
that
has
to
do
with
the
you
know
the
order
or
the
the
first
first
one's
done,
the
ones
that
have
money
that
we
have
a
possibility
of
losing.
We
could
have
any
type
of
match
money
or
something.
A
You
have
a
certain
amount
of
time.
I'm
thinking
within
that
first
year
would
be
all
you
need
to
at
least
figure
out
what
project
you
have
and
have
something
submitted.
If
you
don't
have
a
project
submitted
that
money's
going
to
go
back
into
the
pot
and
you
lost
it
or
it
can
go
to
a
different
fund
that
we
create
and
at
a
later
time
it
could
be
done
with
one
of
the
other
districts.
I
don't
know,
but
you
can't
sit
there
and
just
sit
on
the
money
and
not
use.
B
A
That's
that's
up
for
discussion.
I
think
it
would
be
best
to
be
only
on
drainage
and
roads
and
when
I
say
drainage
and
roads
I
mean
combined
and
it.
I
also
believe
it
needs
to
be
on
one
project,
maybe
two
projects.
We
can't
have
dpw
going
through
all
over
the
districts
and
doing
20
projects,
because
I
mean
that's
just
too
much.
It's
not
the
point
of
this.
B
A
Created
a
drive
retention
pond
or
something
to
that
extent
developers
not
in
business
anymore,
so
they
were
stuck.
You
know
and
I
believe
I've
talked
to
well.
I've
talked
to
each
councilman
and
I
believe
we
all
have
problems
in
our
district
that
we
could
put
this
money
toward
like.
I
said,
if
you
don't
put
it
back
in
the
pot
and
then
the
other
project's
gonna
be
done
quicker.
B
A
E
Thank
you
joel
this
interesting
discussion,
so
my
recollection
about
the
project
that
we,
neither
of
us
can
think
of
the
name
of
the
subdivision
is
there
was
also
some
responsibility
on
the
part
of
the
parish
for
having
approved
a
drainage
system
that
didn't
function
properly.
So
I
in
my
mind,
certainly
there
would
have
to
be
some
stimulation.
Some
stipulation
some
guideline
around
that
there
had
to
be
some
something
that
had
been
done,
that
that
maybe
wasn't
working
well,
but
you
know
that's
and.
E
A
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
idea
as
long
as
see
the
main
main
concern
that
we
have,
that
patrick
has
with
the
money,
is
that
it's
not
spend
or
spent
for
what
it
is
ultimately
intended
to
be
spent
for
right.
So
if
you
want
that-
and
I
agree
that
could
be
a
great
option
for
the
money,
because
it's
still
being
spent
in
your
district,
you
know
we
could
put
that
along
the
checklist
of
different
criteria.
What
would
qualify
or
not
qualify?
A
I
think
that
could
work
great,
and
I
also
agree
with
the
where
the
parish
I
mean
we
have
so
many
things
that
are
against
code
now
against
code
today
that
were
not
years
and
years
ago,
your
rogue
bases
your
floral
light.
I
mean
they
still
use
some
forms
of
floral
light,
but
it's
a
different
mixture,
because
the
other
types
fail.
I
think
that
can
help
us
narrow
down
the
projects
within
each
district.
A
F
F
So
that's
where
I
started
thinking
about
the
dollar
amounts,
and
you
mentioned
you
know.
10
million
or
a
different
dollar
amount
right
now
we're
trying
to
work
on
that
multi-year
budgeting,
and
we
have
plans
right
now
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
take
from
priorities
that
y'all
have
already
approved
in
the
budget
with
those
capital
projects
to
fund
other
things.
F
That
may
not
rise
to
those
priority
levels,
and
I
know
I
know,
there's
a
pull
between
the
council
members
priorities,
obviously,
and
the
and
the
parish
priorities,
and
so
that's
where
my
thought
at
least
for
this
year
would
be
kind
of
like
what
the
state
does
is.
Have
each
council
member
submit
their
priority
list
to
us
we're
about
to
start
the
budgeting
process
in
july
august?
We're
going
to
be
hitting
this
really
hard,
and
so
this
would
be
the
perfect
time
to
get
those
drainage
projects.
It
could
be
transportation
projects.
F
So
when
are
we
going
to
theoretically
run
out
of
money
for
transportation?
I
know
that's
a
that's.
That's
a
concern
the
money's
not
going
to
last
forever
drainage.
How
long
does
it
take
us
and
again
we're
not
talking
about
the
capital
side?
I
think
we're
just
talking
about
the
the
maintenance
side,
and
so
that
would
be
another
consideration.
What
is
out
there,
because
those
aren't
specifically
laid
out
in
the
budget,
but
obviously
there's
plans
moving
forward.
So
I
guess
my
my
thought.
F
My
recommendation
would
be
at
least
for
the
short
term,
because
there's
so
many
moving
parts
to
this
is
if
we
could
start
off
in
the
next
couple
months,
let's
get
a
priority
list
from
every
council
member
so
that
we
can
consider
that
the
administration
can.
Maybe
we
can
get
those
projects
in
this
year,
because
I
would
think
trying
to
come
up
with
these
parameters
could
take
a
while
what
projects
are
worthy.
F
What
what
details
do
we
need
to
be
included
on
the
list,
and
I
just
wouldn't
want
to
miss
an
opportunity,
since
you
know
it's
the
budget's
going
to
happen
fast
with
us
here
in
the
next
few
months.
You
know
how
that
goes,
and
so
my
recommendation
would
be:
let's,
let's
start
off,
let's
get
a
priority
list
and-
and
you
can
even
set
a
dollar
amount
of
look-
come
up
with
half
a
million
to
a
million
dollars
of
priorities,
what's
important
to
you
in
these
areas,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
we
include
those.
E
E
E
C
E
Than
culverts
and-
and
things
like
that-
which
I
think
this
is
a
great
application
for
that,
but
I
think
that's
that's.
Those
are
getting
done
anyway
in
on
the
priority
of
the
drainage
department.
So
you
know
I
hate
to
throw
another
wrinkle
in
this,
but
I
tell
you
what
I
need:
I've
got
a
spray
park.
I've
been
trying
to
get
done
for
10
years.
E
I've
got
the
library
giving
me
the
money,
the
the
property
for
it.
We've
got
the
money
for
it.
We
we
can't
get
it
built
for
other
reasons,
supply
chain
and
all
of
that,
but
we
also
have
the
additional
property
in
the
back
that
if
we
just
went
ahead
now
and
did
that
spray
park
and
added
that
nature
trail,
that's
500,
000
that
you'd
have
a
finished
project
and
that
that
is
unlikely
to
be
get
finished
any
any
other
way.
You
know
it's
not
going
to
be
anybody
else's
priority,
certainly
yeah.
E
I
mean
I
understand
why
it's
not
not
the
administration's
priority,
it's
strictly,
something
that
a
councilman
feels
is
is
is
especially
important
in
their
district
for
quality
of
life.
So
I
I
kind
of,
as
I
think
about
this,
I
think
that
some
of
the
ways
that
we
improve
quality
of
life
with
this,
if
is
which
is
where
our
councilman
usually
is-
is.
E
A
F
A
F
C
F
So
yours
may
be
recreation,
we
know
some
people's
transportation,
then
maybe
you're
sitting
in
the
audience,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we
get
those.
So
maybe
that's
that's
the
better
idea
of
look.
Here's!
Here's
the
department's
submit
the
project.
If
that
half
a
million
is
your
number
one
priority.
F
That
would
be
good
to
know
when
we're
making
the
budget,
because
we
are
looking,
you
know
we're
trying
to
find
more
money
for
recreation
and
if
they
do
find
more
money
or
if
the
sales
tax
are
higher
and
that
25
funds
a
little
bit
more.
Maybe
that's
a
potential,
but
but
if
we
don't
know
those
and
they're
not
written
down
and
given
to
us,
it
just
makes
it
harder
to
try
to
make
sure
we
get
your
priorities
as
well.
B
F
D
D
That's
gonna
have
to
come
from
somewhere.
So
like
yes,
like,
for
example
like
if
I
say
I
want
to
take
my
1
million
and
put
it
towards
you
like
miss
terry,
want
to
put
a
nice
park
in
in
district
11
that'd
be
great
but
like
if
I
could
I'd
pipe
with
that
money
towards
transportation
to
finish
the
airline
and
germany
road
intersection,
because
that's
the
biggest
thing
in
my
district
right
now,
plus
it
would
make
aaron
really
happy.
D
If
I
did
that,
but
like
again,
I
think
that's
kind
of
my
thing,
though,
is
like
if,
if
I'm
taking
money
out
of
move
ascension,
because
I
want
to
do
one
project-
that's
transportation,
then
that's
not
going
to
work
like
I'm.
I'm
not
going
to
be
a
big
fan
of
that,
because
you
wouldn't
take
that
out
of
moving.
D
Though,
like
if
that
money
came
out
of
transportation
or
money
that
could
be
allocated
from
transportation
to
move
ascension
or
something
like
that,
that's
where
I
would
be
not
feel
comfortable
or
like
if
we
want
to
do
a
drainage
project
and
that
budget
that
would
come
out
of
our
drainage
budget
that
could
be
used
to
do
something,
a
bigger
project.
That's
where
I
would
kind
of
feel
uncomfortable
about
it
as
well.
So
we
that's
one
thing
for
sure
that
I
would
like
to
know
is:
where
specifically,
is
that
like?
Are
we
doing
a
sales
tax?
A
My
concern,
so
what
I'm
looking
at,
what
we're
looking
at
doing
is
not
doing
any
more
taxes,
not
doing
any
more
property
tax,
nothing,
but
whenever
you're
doing
a
budget,
especially
if
you're
talking
about
doing
a
three
year
four
year,
five
year
budget,
you
can
budget
out
these
projects
and
you
can
budget
out
this
money
that
money's
coming
from
somewhere.
It
is
coming
from
somewhere
and
these
projects
are
eventually
being
done.
A
My
main
one
of
my
main
purposes
behind
this
is
to
spread
across
the
whole
parish,
because
throughout
each
administration
and
throughout
each
council,
you
always
have
a
tendency
for
some
districts
to
have
more
stuff
done
than
other
districts,
and
that's
just
a
fact.
So
whether
this
is
a
program
that
we
don't
overturn-
or
we
don't
do
another
round
for
five
years
or
ten
years
until
we
get
the
money
at
least
we're
starting
and
we're
putting
the
wheels
in
progress.
C
A
A
I
mean
I
love
lamar
dixon
and
all
the
places
that
we
have,
but
if
we
had
each
district
say
okay,
we
can
do
this
and
do
that
and
it's
just
opening
up
that
door
to
have
each
councilman
have
a
little
bit
more
say
so
for
the
projects
it's
not
necessary,
or
it's
not
going
to
take
money
from
something
that
we
need
somewhere
else.
We
obviously
have
to
find
that
that's.
D
A
If
we,
let's
send
this
back
to
this
committee
and
that'll,
give
us
some
time
to
talk
about
it
amongst
ourselves
get
some
of
the
guidelines
we
want
to
get.
Whoever
wants
to
sit
down
with
myself
and
patrick.
We
can
sit
down
and
kind
of
get
some
more.
You
know
idea
of
the
numbers
and
where
we're
going
to
be
and
bring
it
back
next
time,
yeah
yeah.
F
Well-
and
I
did
when
I
add
councilman
mason-
I,
your
concern
was
my
concern
as
well,
and
we
talked
about
drainage,
because
that
was
the
original
focus
of
this
and
major
drainage.
Their
budget
is
26
million
right
now,
so,
depending
on
how
much
you
take
out
of
that
for
these
priorities
again,
you
wouldn't
want
to
stop
parish
priorities
for
something
that
maybe,
if
you
put
it
in
with
everything
else,
it
doesn't
rise
to
that
level.
F
It
may
be
important
to
one
or
two
councilmen,
but
you
know
again
that's
where
we
have
to
try
to
balance
the
limited
funds,
and
so
that
was
one
of
the
the
problems
we
discussed
of.
We
we
don't
want
to
take
funds
from
ongoing
projects,
planned
projects
or
priority
projects.
So
that's
just
something:
we'd
have
to
make
sure
we
don't
do
as
we
move
forward.
A
A
A
A
A
G
G
Today,
I'm
here
to
speak
to
you
on
behalf
of
an
epidemic,
another
epidemic,
besides
the
opioid
epidemic
and
fentanyl,
and
all
the
stuff
is,
which
is
what
we
call
kratom.
Okay
kratom
is
commonly
sold
in
convenience
stores.
It
comes
from
leaves
from
the
trees
that
are
native
to
southeast
asia.
Okay,
it's
mainly
four
countries.
There,
it's
sold
in
liquid,
peel
and
powder
form
and
it's
sodium
convenience
stores
and
what
we
call
smoke
shops
the
vape
shops
throughout
our
parish
and
state
all
right.
G
It
has
been.
It
comes
into
this
to
the
country
under
the
dietary
supplement,
which
is
not
controlled
by
the
fda,
so
it
can
just
come
across
the
border.
It
has
caught
the
attention
of
the
dea,
that's
causing
caught
the
attention
to
fda,
which
is
doing
studies,
but
there's
not
enough
research
and
data
to
support
anything
for
kratom
kratom
has
the
same
effects
of
opioid
brain
receptors
as
morphine,
which
does
have
appears
to
have
the
same
properties
that
expose
uses
to
addiction,
abuse
and
dependence.
G
Some
will
say
it's
because
some
will
say
that
it's
great,
because
the
users
want
to
use
it
for
what
they
call
self-detox
anybody
who's
been
in
the
drug
business,
especially
in
the
detox
and
the
rehab
facilities,
will
tell
you.
Self-Detox
is
not
a
good
option.
It's
very
very
seldom
ever
works.
Okay,
there
are
several
states
that
have
outlawed
kratom.
I
think
five
or
six
states
that
in
this
country
that
have
outlawed
kratom,
there
are
several
counties,
parishes
and
I
mean
counties,
cities
and
towns
across
the
country
that
has
outlawed
it.
G
It
is
not
currently
outlawed
anywhere
in
the
state
of
louisiana.
All
right.
There
are
states,
I
mean
in
my
14
years
of
narcotics
investigations
all
right.
We
have
seen
several
substances
sold,
which
mimic
the
same
effects
as
illegal
narcotics
mojo,
which
is
synthetic
marijuana
bath
salts,
is
just
a
few
of
them
to
name
the
while
conducting
investigations
over
the
years
with
once
the
opioid
epidemic,
which
is
the
heroin
epidemic,
came
back
into
this
state.
G
One
of
the
things
we've
commonly
seen
in
our
investigations
dealing
with
individuals,
citizens
of
our
parish
is
kratom
and
we
talked
to
them
and
we
asked
them
that's
when
we
learned
about
kratom
and
in
the
law
enforcement
field,
it's
synthetic,
it's
basically
a
synthetic
heroin.
It
has
the
same
effects.
If
you
look
at
the
effects
of
it,
it
will
it's
pretty
bad.
I
speak
from
personal
experience,
my
daughter's
here.
She.
G
Struggles
met
with
sheriff
webber
on
several
occasions,
and
we
spoke
this
morning
and
he
wanted
me
to
pass
along
to
yellow.
He
would
like
to
see
the
pairs
of
ascension
make
it
illegal
to
sell
kratom
in
ascension
parish.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
support
okay.
If
there's
any
questions
you
all
may
have
of
me,
I
work
for
the
sheriff's
office.
I've
been
there
for
27
years.
I've
got
some
printouts
that
I
made
about
kratom
from
the
fda
dea
and
a
few
other,
the
mayo
clinic
and
a
few
other
ones.
G
C
C
A
A
G
Yes
and
that,
and
that's
not
over
that
fight's
not
over
it's
just
a
matter
of
timing
and
getting
it
back
on
the
table
because
I've
in
my
business
we
deal
with
a
lot
of
guys
from
dea.
We
work
hand
in
hand
with
dea
on
a
lot
of
cases
here
in
ascension
parish,
it's
bad
stuff,
I
mean
it.
I
put
it
right
up
there
with
bath
salts
and
bath.
G
G
B
A
G
Well
gladly
the
moment,
if
y'all
make
this
illegal,
we
will
go
and
put
all
the
stores
and
the
smoke
shops
we'll
give
them
the
documentation
from
the
parish,
where
it's
a
paris
ordinance
to
make
it
illegal,
and
we
will
have
discussions
with
them
about
removing
it
from
their
store
and
just
like
we
did
with
bath
salts
after
a
short
period
of
time.
We
will
return
to
those
locations
and
it
could
lead
to
the
sighting
of
the
owners
of
the
establishments
and
also
the
seizing
of
any
kratom
type
products
that
we
find
in
their
facilities.
A
And
you
know
this
was
brought
to
my
attention.
Personally,
I
went
through
treatment.
I
got
into
treatment
in
2012.,
so
the
kratom
was
right
about
the
cusp
of
that
I
didn't
really.
I
wasn't
familiar
with
it.
I
didn't
realize
it
was
as
big
of
an
issue
as
it
is
until
aaron
called
me.
Yes
to
tell
me
about
it,
I
mean
they
have
detoxes,
that
that
should
require
medical
detox.
A
H
H
I
went
to
a
rise
for
mental
health
in
ascension
parish
about
two
or
three
weeks
ago,
and
I
was
really
excited
to
be
able
to
be
a
part
of
that
where
we
can
help
with
mental
illness
in
our
parish,
addiction
and
different
things
like
that
and
probably
about
a
week
and
a
half
after
that.
I
was
turning
the
corner
going
to
the
ruth
house,
which
is
our
intake
house,
and
I
saw
create
a
big,
kratom
banner
and
immediately
called
joel
and
said:
what
can
we
do
about
this?
It's
almost
like
an
oxymoron.
H
I
mean,
if
we're
sitting
here,
trying
to
as
a
parish
help
people
with
mental
issues
and
addiction,
but
yet
we're
going
to
sell
something
like
this
over
the
counter
where
some
of
my
girls
are
having
to
go
in
rehab
centers.
For
this
I
mean
they
are
relapsing
on
kratom,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
be
able
to
bring
this
to
y'all's
attention
that
this
is
going
on,
and
I
just
hope
that
maybe,
as
a
committee
as
a
parish
that
we
can
come
together
and
outlaw
it.
A
I
appreciate
that
and
as
erin
is
saying
after
she
had
called
me,
I
started
looking
at
these
stores.
I
mean
they're
in
all
the
windows
they're
all
over
the
place
and,
for
instance,
ruth's
house
that
she's
talking
about
on
airline
highway,
there's
a
store
you
can
see
across
the
street
with
a
lit
up
sign
that
says:
kratom
same
thing
with
the
grove
in
sorrento
the
treatment
facility
there
they
have
a
store
across
the
street
with
kratom
advertised
and
you're
right.
I
believe
ascension
parish
is
taking
a
lead
in
tackling
mental
health
and
drug
addiction.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
waited
two
days
before
I
went,
and
then
I
decided,
but
four
hours
after
knowing
I
needed
to
go
to
detox,
I
was
screaming
and
crying
at
my
mom
begging
her
to
take
me.
That's
how
like
that's,
how
much
worse
the
detox
is
from
kratom,
and
I
was
willing
to
do
anything
that
morning,
like
I
was
gonna
steal.
Anything
from
my
sister,
and
I
know
this
is
a
cord.
I
shouldn't
be
saying
that,
but
I'm
going
to
be
honest,
like
it.
I
But
yes,
so,
instead
of
that,
they
detox
you
off
of
it
like
they
would
a
normal
opiate
addiction.
They
do
five
to
seven
days.
But
for
me
I
had
only
been
on
it
for
a
month
and
a
half
and
they
still
had
to
keep
me
seven
days
instead
of
five
and
before
that
I
was
on
heroin
for
probably
about
two
years
or
just
opiates,
and
it
eventually
worked
my
way
up,
but
it
had
developed
so
five
days
for
a
normal
withdrawal
and
seven
days
from
for
kratom
like
that.
I
Just
goes
to
show
how
bad
and
when
I
first
got
there,
they
did
an
initial,
an
initial
drug
test
and
when
I
hadn't
picked
up
anything
at
this
point
like
I
hadn't
done
anything
not
even
any
legal
pills
or
anything
like
that.
But
when
I
got
there,
I
failed
my
drug
test
for
fentanyl
as
well
as
kratom,
oh
wow
yeah,
and
that's
what
freaked
me
out
because
I
was
like
I
swear
like.
I
have
no
reason
a
lot
of
y'all.
I
haven't
done
anything,
but
I
failed
one.
I
Hard
thing
for
me
that
is
being
in
recovery,
was
before
I
knew
about
kratom.
I
could
stop
at
a
gas
station
because
they
don't
sell
heroin
or
methamphetamines
over
the
counter,
but
they
they
sell
kratom,
and
now
that
I
struggle
with
kratom
addiction
as
well
or
my
bad
days.
It's
like
I
can't
even
stop
and
feel
safe
at
a
gas
station
because
they
sell
it
everywhere
and
now
around
here.
I
They
know
me
because
I
used
to
buy
like
400
worth
of
kratom
a
day
and
so
like
when
they
see
me
now,
they're,
like
oh
you're,
not
getting
any
credit.
I'm
like
they
told
me
that
three
nights
ago
they
were
like
oh
you're,
not
getting
any,
and
I
was
like
well
no
I'm
in
recovery
now
and
they
were
like.
Oh
we
do.
I
J
Thank
you
first,
my
name
is
rick
morton.
I
do
business
development
for
the
grove
recovery
center.
Three
weeks
from
friday
will
be
a
year,
we're
out
in
ascension
and
I'm
truly
blessed
to
be
a
part
of
the
community,
and
thank
you,
young
lady,
very
moving,
recovery's,
tough
and
kratom
only
makes
it
tougher.
I
have
a
some
of
our
folks
at
our
ascension
campus
and
off
our
medical
team.
J
It
is
difficult
to
help
them
achieve
a
tolerable
comfort
level.
Often
they
leave
during
detox
because
they
are
so
miserable.
This
places
them
at
risk
for
overdose
because
they
will
use
a
dose
of
heroin
or
fentanyl
right
away.
A
typical
kratom
detoxer
presents
with
facial
flushing
tremors
restless
discontent
that
they
are
unable
to
sit
still
they're
in
tears.
Sweating
profusely
begging
us
to
make
it
stop
they're
over
stimulated
yet
exhausted.
Their
heart
is
pounding,
blood
pressure
is
dangerously
elevated
and
they
have
a
fever
and
body
eggs.
The
risk
of
having
a
seizure
is
very
high.
J
They
tried
to
detox
themselves
using
an
all-natural
product
marketed
to
them
by
misleading
facts.
Yet
they're
here
they
here
they
are
excruciating
pain,
scared
for
their
life
and
their
lent
and
pushing
limits
and
doing
whatever
we
can
to
help
them
create.
Kratom
is
just
an
herb.
They
say.
Let's
look
at
some
facts.
Kratom
a
plant
native
to
southeast
asia
has
grown
in
popularity
in
the
us
due
to
its
natural
stimulant
and
sedative
effects.
J
Kratom
is
not
regulated
by
the
fda
and
is
sold
under
many
different
trade
names.
It
is
not
listed
as
a
controlled
substance
by
the
dea.
It
can
be
found
at
gas
station
smoke
and
novelty
shops.
Kratom
has
zero
approved
medical
uses.
The
fda
refused
to
approve
it.
Six
appeals
because
studies
show
that
it
is
a
high
rate
of
addiction
in
in
2019
the
fda
issued
warnings
to
create
a
manufacturing
stating
quote
simply
selling
these
or
unapproved
kratom
products.
J
With
claims
that
they
can
treat
opioid
withdrawal
and
addiction
and
other
serious
medical
conditions
is
a
violation
of
federal
law,
some
may
argue
that
the
deaths
related
to
kratom
use
occur
far
less
than
deaths
from
heroin.
This
is
true,
but
the
point
of
banning
kratom
products
is
to
encourage
people
to
seek
medical
treatment
for
addiction
and
more
safely
detox
kratom
users
develop
a
tolerance
to
small
doses
quickly
and
require
much
larger
amounts
to
achieve
the
same
effects
with
higher
doses.
The
detrimental
effects
described
above
are
likely
our
nurse.
J
J
Our
medical
team
wrote
that
in
the
last
couple
days,
I
can
tell
you
personally
for
those
that
transition
from
our
treatment
center
from
detox
and
inpatient
once
they
go
into
iop,
sober
living
or
go
home
and
to
continue
their
journey
far
often
the
cry
is
that
they
come
back
and
the
story
goes.
I
I
started
with
just
kratom.
J
More
fatal
drug
is
becoming
more
parallel
with
kratom,
because
the
side
effects
alone
are
dangerous,
but
also
it
leads
for
folks,
like
this
young
lady
to
just
advance
towards
heroin,
again
or
math
and
which
is
ultimately
just
fentanyl
on
our
streets.
These
days
anyway,
sadly
enough
also,
the
testing
for
kratom
is
not
up
to
snuff,
as
other
testing
is
from
heroin
methamphetamines
and
those
things
and
there's
still
a
perception
in
the
sobriety
recovery
community
that
they
can
still
get
away
with
this
somewhat
like
if
they
drink
just
a
little
bit.
J
Maybe
they
won't
fail
a
urine
screen
the
next
morning
or
whatever,
and
the
perception
is
that,
if
they're
not
tested
within
a
window
of
opportunity
that
they
can
catch
those
they're
they're
skating
by
and
they're,
not
really
in
recovery,
they're,
just
not
they're,
just
walking
a
fine
line
of
a
road
to
overdose
and
too
often
death
in
our
community.
So
I
appreciate.
A
With
us,
thank
you
and
kind
of
like
on
the
note
of
what
rick
is
saying,
addiction
isn't
just
as
simple
as
quitting
drugs.
I
mean
you
have
several
aspects
to
it.
You
have
a
physical
addiction,
you
have,
you
know
a
spiritual
problem
and
you
have
a
emotional
mental
problem
and
we
have
these
people
coming
out
of
treatment
that
get
rid
of
the
physical
addiction
and
they
still
have
to
work
on
themselves,
going
to
iop
going
through
outpatient,
all
those
types
of
things,
and
it's
crazy
that
they're
passing
by
and
seeing
this
kratom
sold
everywhere.
A
E
E
It
is
a
loss.
You
may
not
recognize
how
valuable
you
are,
but
your
family
does
and
so
please
work
hard.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion,
mr
chairman,
I'm
sure
I
can
elicit
a
second
that
we
send
this
information
to
our
legal
counsel.
Ask
him
to
write
a
an
ordinance
and
propose
that
to
the
full
council
that
this
substance
be
made
illegal
in
this
parish
for
sale
or
use,
because
we're
not
going
to
solve
the
problem
of
kratom
and
ascension
parish.
E
E
And
we
have
an
avenue
to
get
them
to
help.
I
hate
to
criminalize
the
usage.
I
really
do,
but
it
it
it's
in
order
to
save
these
folks
from
themselves.
We're
going
to
have
to
and
look
this
has
been
an
eye-opener
for
me,
my
my
stepson
struggles
and
I've
never
heard
that
term.
So
I'm
going
to
be
wondering
now
if
this
is
where
some
of
the
problems
are
coming
from.
D
A
Okay,
yeah,
so
we'll
move
this
to
the
full
council
after
our
legal
draws
up
an
ordinance
to
to
be
voted
on
at
that
time.
So
motion
passes.
Actually
any
objection
motion
passes.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
Well,
that
will
move
back
to
agenda
item
b,
discussion
of
further
details
of
the
home
rule
charter,
amendment
to
limit
the
terms
of
ascension
parish,
council
members
and
the
ascension
parish
president,
as
requested
by
the
full
council.
This
is
something
that
we
moved
to.
The
full
council
seemed
like
we
had.
A
A
A
One
of
the
my
fellow
councilmen
dempsey
had
brought
up
the
idea
of
doing
a
six-year
terms
and
we
had
kind
of
toyed
with
the
idea
of
three
six-year
terms,
but
you
still
have
your
same
amount
of
years.
So
after
that,
we've
had
some
more
discussions
and-
and
obviously
we
need
to.
I
haven't
spoken
with
everyone
in
the
council
about
this,
but
talk
to
a
few
people
that
would
support
two
six-year
terms.
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
get
feedback
from
from
my
fellow
committee
members
and.
D
D
Is
you
know
we
start
these
projects,
you
want
to
see
them
come
to
fruition,
and
I
understand
that
and
that's
why
I
think
that
was
why
we
kind
of
pushed
for
the
longer
terms-
but
I
mean
four
years
is:
is
a
big
commitment,
honestly
and
and
six
years
is
even
huger
commitment.
So
I
would,
I
would
say
I
would
be
more
apt
to
doing
four
or
four
years
than
anything
with
six
years,
but
my
ideal
is
three
four
year
terms:
that's
mine,
three
for
you.
E
But
I
have
never
opposed
putting
something
before
the
public
for
a
vote
and
I
will
not
oppose
putting
this
before
the
public
for
a
vote.
I'm
not
comfortable.
I
don't
know
about
the
six
year
thing
that
that's
a
that's
a
long
time,
but
if
it
was
two
six-year
terms,
I
could
probably
be
comfortable
with
that
too.
So
you
know
whatever
there's
some
consensus
that
will
form
here
and
and
maybe
even
more
consensus
that
will
be
achieved
at
the
council
level,
and
so
I
I
would.
E
B
A
A
D
E
F
E
Know
each
other
we
all
have,
we
all
are
empathetic
to
each
other,
and
we
we
know
how
difficult
the
work
is
and
how
sometimes
unappreciated
the
work
is
and
how
complicated
it
can
be
and
how
many
competing
interests
there
are
and
so
choosing
to
censure
a
councilman
has
never
been
an
easy
decision,
and
it
certainly
should
not
be
something
that
we
even
think
about.
Very
often
you
know,
I
think,
on
the
two
occasions
that
it
was
done
it
was
needed.
E
A
E
E
A
E
Yeah
right,
you
know,
but
we're
not
children
here,
that's
right
and
taking
away
our
our
our
allowance
is
probably
not
what
we
need
to
do.
I
I
think
what
I
want
people
to
understand
is
that
if
you
get
censored
you
you
should
feel
badly
about
that,
because
and
so
does
the
body
that
has
to
do
it
because
everybody
knows
how
hard
this
is.
So
you
get
an
allowance
too.