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Zoning Commission - March 8, 2023
A
Okay,
all
members
are
present.
Can
we
have
an
intro
introduction
of
staff.
A
Of
planning,
thank
you
very
much
item
four.
We
have
the
minutes,
we'll
have
the
acceptance
of
the
minutes
for
the
February
8
2023
can
I
have
a
motion
motion
by
Mr
Clue,
lock
second,
by
Mr
Villa,
all
in
favor
aye.
That
motion
passes
item
five
Chairman's
comments.
This
evening,
chairman
has
no
comments.
A
Item
six
we'd
like
to
open
a
public
hearing
to
amend
the
central
Parish
development
code
for
recommendation
to
for
the
approval
or
denial
to
the
Ascension
Parish
Council
item
a
has
been
removed
from
the
agenda
so
we'll
go
right
to
Item
B
Item
B
is
a
zoning
review.
Idpz
3079.23
Lots
one
two
three
and
five
little
Prairie
subdivision
for
Trevor
wood
and
do
we
have
a
representative
for
the
applicant
here
to
speak.
A
You
Brian
and
I
just
want
to
remind
you,
y'all
are
going
to
after
this
we'll
have
our
public
hearing.
Anybody
who
wants
to
talk
we'll
have
three
minutes
so
feel
free
to
present,
sir.
Yes,.
F
Sir,
basically,
he
just
wanted
to
do
a
project
that
we
would
need
the
MU
classification
for
and
we're
here
to
ask
to.
F
G
A
Okay,
well
Mr
making
do
we
have
anybody
here
to
speak
on
this?
No,
no
one
said
it
okay!
Well,
officially,
we
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
we
have
no
one
here
to
speak,
so
we
will
close
the
public
hearing.
A
Let's
open
this
up
to
some
questions,
Mr
Brock.
Can
you
Enlighten
us
about
this
project?
Please,
yes,.
D
Sir,
the
applicant
is
requesting
to
ReSound
the
property
to
Mu
is
presently
his
own
mixed
use
too.
The
staff
recommendation
is
to
deny
the
mixed
juice,
as
requested
based
on
the
uses
that
could
be
allowed
under
the
mixed
use
and
staff
leaves
mixed
use.
Two
is
the
correct
zoning
district
for
this
area,
which
is
north
of
42.
A
Okay,
any
Commissioners
do
y'all,
have
any
questions
for
the
applicant.
H
H
Your
intentions
is
to
outdoor.
C
C
H
Of
that
sort
this
is
a
food
truck
and
you're
off
wheels.
Excuse
me,
I
said
this
is
a
food
truck
off.
C
C
D
G
So
Mr
Brock
under
the
MU
zoning,
which
is
what
he's
asking
for
what
are
some
of
the
uses
under
mu,
that
this
would
be
opened
up
to
it.
D
Could
be
opened
up
to
bars
and
lounges
car
dealerships,
Trailer
Sales,
there's
some
other
things,
light
industrial,
those
type
of
uses.
Yes,
sir.
D
C
A
And-
and
we
please
understand
we-
we
appreciate
that,
and
that
might
be
your
desire
in
all
scenarios
in
in
five
years.
Something
could
happen
to
you
and
and
you're,
not
here.
So
the
the
item
that
we
have
to
consider
is
what
what
is
the
best
use
for
this
property?
Given
you
know
the
neighborhood,
the
the
master
plan
and
everything
else,
and
and
based
on
even
what
you've
said
in
here.
A
I
How
long
you've
had
the
property.
C
I
H
We
have
the
ability
to
go
with
a
spud
or
a
put
idea
in
you
know
some
of
these
areas,
where
you
can
tailor
it
to
that
specific
request
of
the
applicant.
Would
that
also
apply
to
a
commercial
property
where
such
as
this,
where
they
could
ask
for
a
very
specific
idea?
We
allow
it,
and
if
that
property
would
I
mean
that
that
idea,
for
whatever
reason,
would
no
longer
exist,
it
go
back
to
the
original
zoning
that
would
prevent
expanded
use
further
down
the
road.
E
G
So
correct
me,
but
the
individual
is
not
the
owner
of
the
property.
Are
you
the
applicant
or
are.
G
D
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
by
Mr
Nasser
to
recommend
denial.
Do
we
have
a
second?
A
G
A
A
A
Okay,
that
motion
is
unanimous.
Unfortunately,
sir,
we're
going
to
be
recommending
denial
to
the
council.
This
is
just
a
recommendation,
so
what
we
are
doing
is
passing
on
to
the
council.
They
will
vote
on
this
at
a
later
date
and
you'd
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
or
potentially
change
their
mind.
So,
oh
good
evening
and
I
apologize
for
that
nonsense.
It's
all
right!
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you
so
much.
E
You
I
wanted
to
preface
the
next
four
items
by
saying
that
there
are
three
ways
to
initiate
a
zoning
change.
One
is
an
applicant
or
a
property
owner
can
do
that
as
you
just
saw.
The
second
is
the
zoning
commission
can
make
a
recommendation
for
a
zoning
change
and
the
third
is
the
council
can
make
a
recommendation
for
the
zoning
change.
E
What
we
have
before
you
for
the
next
four
items
are
items
that
we
would
like
you
to
consider
and
ask
if
we
could
come
back
at
the
next
meeting
to
have
an
open,
a
public
meeting
to
make
a
zoning
change.
You
know
based
on
these
four
items.
Okay,
so
that's
that's
my
Preface
on
on
the
next
four
items,
so
we
can
go
to
item
a
if
you'd,
like
okay
and.
A
Mr
Fournier,
let
me
ask
you:
would
you
rather
me
go
over
each
item
and
then
we
discuss
them
individually
or
do
you
want
to
discuss
on
each
one
as
we
go?
Let's,
let's
do.
A
You,
sir
okay
for
new
business,
we're
going
to
have
item
a
item
for
consideration,
ordinance,
zt-23-01,
requiring
a
conditional
use
permit
and
a
slight
site
plan
review
by
the
zoning
commission
for
multi-family
resident
Apartments
Mr
Fournier.
Yes,.
E
At
the
request
of
the
administration
and
staff,
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
have
apartment
complexes
that
are
over
three
units
in
size
to
have
issued
a
conditional
use
permit
right
and
with
that
they
would
come
before
the
zoning
commission
for
approval
of
their
project.
All
right.
We
can
place
conditions
on
that
project
because
it
is
a
conditional
use
project.
A
conditioner
use
permit
and
they'd
go
through
a
public
hearing
process.
E
Right
now
in
certain
zoning
categories,
Apartments
can
be
built
as
a
use
as
right,
and
you
know
it
doesn't
go
through
a
public
hearing
process.
So
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
have
them
become
come
before
you
for
approval,
you
know,
so
that's
basically,
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
A
The
one
question
I
had
about
that
is
that
you
mentioned
anything
more
than
three
one.
They
do
have
a
very
common
quad
Plex
and
that's
about
where
the
limit
is
on
a
lot
of
things.
Is
there
a
potential
where
we
would
extend
that
to
the
Limit
being
four
or
do
we
have
a
a
limit
at
three
for
a
reason.
D
A
Double
check.
Thank
you.
Okay,
three
more
units,
three
or
more
units
in
in
a
hotel
or
in
a
in
a
building.
So
does
anybody
on
the
commission
have
any
questions
regarding
this
Mr
Nasser.
G
So,
let's
talk
about
a
conditional
use
pyramid
for
clarity,
so
so
we're
someone
to
come.
It's
before
us
that
wanted
to
do
a
four
unit
apartment
complex
that
was
properly
zoned.
The
property
was
property
zoned.
We
would
do
a
conditionally
used
permit.
That
would
say
you
can
only
do
a
four
unit
apartment
complex
on
this
piece
of
property.
If
you
do
these
things,
XYZ,
okay,
so
what
is
the
longevity
of
that
conditional
use
permit
and
they
go
to
the
question
that
or
whatever
Nick
I
think
was
Nick
good
asked
earlier?
G
Well,
what
happens
if
that
owner
goes
away
in
25
years
from
now
the
the
properties
of
state
of
disrepair
or
whatever?
What
happens
to
the
conditional
use?
Permit?
There's
I
I
I
need
to
understand
how
long
that
lives.
E
No,
it's
not
a
weird
question:
I
guess
the
the
question
is:
does
the
permit
continue
with
the
applicant
or
does
it
does
it
continue
with
the
land?
Yes,.
D
I
guess
that
is
so
that's
it.
It
would
be
to
me
it
would
be
more
like
a
non-conforming
use
once
it
loses
its
non-conformity
for
six
months.
It
would
have
to
conform.
So
if
it's
in
disrepair
no
one's
living
in
it
and
the
electricity's
off
and
it
doesn't
it
stays
vacant
for
more
than
six
months,
then
at
that
point,
that
condition
is,
is
voided.
So.
A
Okay,
okay,
that
answers
my
question:
Mr
brockwood.
It
also
follow
along
the
lines
of
let's
say
I'm.
Looking
at
the
process
of
of
this
is
that
we
have
these
conditional
use
and
we
have
a
public
hearing
on
all
these
things
when
it
goes
to
the
council,
just
like
a
spud,
are
we
doing
a?
Are
we
doing
a
reason?
Are
we
actually
doing
a
rezone
of
that
property,
or
are
we
just
adding
just
that
con
condition
in
that
approval
of
that
rezone?
No.
D
I
H
Sir,
so
this
would
essentially
so
I
think,
a
few
months
ago
they
had
the
over
there
in
front
of
Bill
Savannah
the
apartment
complex,
so
when,
instead
of
them
going
to
the
board
of
adjustments
for
that,
they
would
come
to
us
with
a
regular
site
plan
map.
Well,
remember.
E
That
that
particular
project,
they
were
moving
forward
as
a
use
of
right
and
it
was
denied
through
an
action
of
the
planning
director,
okay
and
they
appealed
that
decision.
So
the
appeal
of
that
decision
by
the
planning
director
went
to
the
board
of
adjustments.
H
Right,
how
would
that
work?
If
so,
if
they
brought
that
project
now,
they're
bringing
that
project
to
the
zoning
commission
right
and
then
so,
any
denial
would
then
be
appealed
to
the
council.
Or
would
it
go
to
the
board
of
adjustments.
E
D
We're
going
to
use
the
towers
they,
the
peels
goes
to
the
to
the
board
of
adjustments.
That's
how
it's
worded
in
there.
So
if
there's,
you
know
I'm
just
saying
that
there's
something
already
there,
but
if
you
wanted
to
go
to
the
council
or
to
the
bills
board,
yes,
and
then
after
that
you
know
whatever
may
occur
after
that.
So
well,.
A
Typically,
on
the
for
the
cell
phone
towers,
we
don't
have
impacts
and-
and
that's
the
big
issue
that
we're
looking
at,
is
when
we're
looking
at
multi-family
dwellings.
They
have
further
impacts
in
utilities,
infrastructure
and
such
so.
At
that
point,
I
would
much
prefer
for
something
like
this
I
do
agree
with
with
Mr
Miller
that
we
would
have
that
appeal
process
go
to
the
council
if
you
so
choose.
G
F
A
Any
further
comments
or
questions.
Okay,
thank
you.
We'll
go
to
Item
B
item
for
consideration,
ordinance,
dc-2-3,
Mr,.
A
That
sit
corrected,
then
then
we
will
have
a
motion.
We
would
entertain
a
motion
for
that.
Anybody
motion
Mr
Miller,
any
second
Mr
kluwat
will
the
motion
will
be,
as
as
you've
said,
for
staff
to
come
back
with
with
the
recommendation.
We'll
have
a
public
hearing
on
this.
With
my
request,
that's
correct
zoning
and.
G
H
Is
to
have
the
conditional
use
permit
brought
to
the
zoning
Commission
with
the
any
appeal
being
heard
through
the
council.
A
G
D
G
I
Yes,
sir,
so
I'm
kind
of
agreeing
with
commissioner
Nasser
I
mean:
what's
the
I
think
it
should
go
through
the
board
of
adjustments?
If
that's
the
what
they're
they're
there
for
I
mean
it's
there's
not
what's
the
difference
of
it
going
through
the
council
or
the
board
of
adjustments.
E
The
board
of
adjustments
is
really
a
body
appointed
by
the
council.
You
know
of
members
that
typically
look
at
things
like
lot
line
adjustments,
things
within
subdivisions
that
need
a
minor
correction
due
to
anomalies
in
in
a
map
or
an
anomaly
on
the
ground
or
something
of
that
sort.
You
know
they
do
hear
appeals.
This
is
the
first
appeal
for
that
apartment,
complex
that
we
discussed
earlier.
E
That's
the
first
appeal,
they've
heard
in
years
right
since
prior
to
me,
being
here,
the
the
the
Council,
on
the
other
hand,
sits
as
the
appeals
board
for
the
Planning
Commission
all
right.
So
if
you
deny
a
project
subdivision,
those
things
can
be
appealed
to
the
appeals
board,
which
is
the
council.
So
it's
two
different
entities
all
right
so.
D
H
D
A
A
Are
zoning
existing
zoning
governing
Authority
appeals
do
go
to
the
board
of
appeals
correct
so
it?
What
I
would
probably
say
is
if
you
wanted
to
make
a
substitute
motion
to
have
it
that
way.
That
would
potentially
be
because
we
do
have
a
motion
for
in
a
second
on
the
floor.
H
A
F
G
Motion
is
that
we
recommend
this
approval,
okay
and
include
that
the
appeal
process
goes
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment.
A
Okay,
the
motion
is
that
we
recommend
two
staff
to
come
back
to
us
with
this,
with
specifically
stating
the
board
of
adjustments
as
the
appeals,
and
we
have
a
second
by
commissioner
Miller,
so
any
opposition,
let's
open
up
the
boards,
please
let
me
make
sure
I
vote
right.
Yeah.
A
E
Like
the
previous
matter,
we're
asking
you
to
make
a
recommendation
to
staff
to
come
back
and
have
a
public
hearing
at
the
April
meeting
to
create
a
new
zoning
classification
called
Countryside.
This
Sony
classification
would
have
a
minimum
lot
size
of
five
acres
right
and
you'll
see
the
companion
piece
behind
it.
The
next
item
C,
is
to
where
we're
going
to
designate
that
all
right.
Actually,
it's
item
D.
E
So
what
we'd
like
to
do
this
Falls
in
line
with
some
of
the
work
that
Kinder
Keith,
has
been
helping
us
with
creating
this
new
category
and
we're
going
to
utilize
that
in
areas
of
the
parish,
where
that
are
basically
low-lying,
Marsh
or
small
barriers
right
in
the
parish
and
you'll,
see
that
on
the
map
that
I'll
show
you
a
little
bit
later.
Okay,
so.
A
We
got
a
motion
by
commissioner
Miller
to
to
ask
y'all
to
come
back
on
this,
for
an
approval.
Do
we
have
a
second
second
by
commissioner
klubach?
Let's
open
up
the
boat
polls.
F
A
Okay
and
before
point
of
order,
not.
G
A
Oh,
the
the
vote
passes
unanimously.
Okay,.
G
D
Read
I
think
the
chairman
clarified
the
motion.
Okay,.
G
G
A
You
not
a
problem
item
C
item
for
consideration,
ordinance,
zt-23-03
to
amend
appendix
one
zoning
tables
of
the
Ascension
Parish,
unified,
Land,
Development
code
to
add
a
new
zoning
designation
of
Countryside
CS.
E
A
You
very
much
okay
motion
by
commissioner
Miller
to
bring
back
on
this
second
by
commissioner
Nasser
any
discussion.
Let's
open
up
the
polls.
D
E
A
And
that
motion
passes.
Thank
you.
So
much
last
item
item
for
consideration,
ordinance,
zm-23-04
revisions
to
the
zoning
mat,
Countryside
CS
zoning
designation
and
Mr
Fournier,
the
big
one.
If.
E
I
this
is
the
big
one
if
I
could
get
my
computer
on
the
screen,
please.
The
area
that
you
see
on
the
screen
is
basically
the
eastern
part
of
the
Sinjin
parish
and
the
I
item.
That's
in
the
blue
would
be
the
area
where
we're
going
to
designate
the
new
Countryside.
E
The
area
lies
outside
of
the
protection
Levy
and,
and
we
also
excluded
properties
that
are
along
the
diversion
Canal
that
have
already
been
subdivided
and
there
they've
been
zoned,
properly
RM
and
they've
already
built
upon
all
right,
so
we're
excluding
those
items
on
the
on
the
diversion
Canal.
But
we
want
to
acknowledge
that
the
Aryan
blue
right
now,
basically,
is
the
area
that
the
state
of
Louisiana
has
designated
as
coastal
zone
for
the
Parish
of
Ascension
right.
E
So
we
we
seem
like
we're
a
lot
we're
we're
we're
a
great
distance
from
Grand
Isle,
but
in
fact
there
are
some
coastal
areas
in
the
parish
and
going
up
that
border
like
more
Paul
like
Pontchartrain
everything
else.
One
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
is
create
a
corridor
for
all
the
water
to
start
flowing
in
a
southerly
direction.
If
you
recall
in
2016,
when
we
had
the
bad
flood,
the
major
flood
flood
water
was
getting
into
Santa
Monica
because
it
couldn't
get
flow
South.
We
have
also
a
project.
E
That's
on
the
books
right
now
that
we're
negotiating
with
dotd
and
the
Pontchartrain
Levy
District
about
putting
major
water
features
under
Highway
22,
that's
going
to
allow
it
prevent
it
from
becoming
a
dam
like
it
did
in
2016
right.
So
we
think
that
this
will
be
really
advantageous
from
a
drainage
perspective
in
the
parish.
E
Secondly,
when
we,
when
we
do
this
ordinance,
we're
not
going
to
allow
Phil
to
be
used
to
elevate
homes,
all
right
we're
going
to
allow
a
small
amount
of
fill,
so
you
can
build
the
driveway
up
to
the
house
and
maybe
a
little
bit
of
fill
underneath
the
pad
itself,
but
for
the
most
part,
we're
looking
at
peer
and
beam
type
Construction
in
this
area
and
to
again
keep
the
water
flowing.
You
know
out
of
the
area
and
and
get
it
get
it
going
in
that
direction
all
right.
E
So
that's
that's
one
of
the
major
things
that
we're
looking
at
this
was
addressed
when
we
did
our
master
plan
in
2019.
As
you
recall,
Mr
Shake
Snyder
was
part
of
that
that
process,
and
it
said
that
we'd
like
to
see
maybe
this
type
of
zoning
category
created
so
we're
moving
forward
with
that
right.
So
I'm
more
than
happy
to
answer
any
of
the
questions
you
know
you
might
have
on
this.
A
Yes,
sir
and
I
do
have
a
few
questions,
and
this
will
probably
be
a
few
clarifications
for
everybody.
One
of
the
things
is
and
like
Mr
Fournier
said,
is
we
as
the
as
a
commission
and
the
administration?
We
all
have
separate
ways
that
we
can
recommend
and
Institute
a
zoning
change.
This
is
actually
one
of
them
that
we
would
be
using
where
we
are
initiating
a
blanket
zoning
change
of
identified
properties.
A
Not
everybody
understands
that,
but
this
is
something
one
of
my
questions
that
I'd
like
for
you
to
answer,
and
then
this
also
be
talked
about
in
the
public.
Hearing.
I'm
sure
is
how
will
the
public
and
and
those
parcel
owners
be
notified
that
their
land
has
been
rezoned.
D
D
E
Get
the
word
out
on
Facebook
Public
Notices
public
announcements.
Things
of
this
are
we're
going
to
work
with
with
the
Administration
on
that
okay
and
go
above
and
beyond
what
the
minimum
legal
requirements
are
right.
Perfect.
E
H
I'm,
just
asking
you
know,
with
the
pontotrary
District
project
in
the
lower
Lowell
Ridge
extension.
None
of
those
come
into
play
good
enough
for
me,
okay,
okay,.
E
I
might
add
two,
though,
and
I
forgot
to
mention
this
when
I
was
introduced,
introdu
introducing
this
this
matter,
the
Ascension
Parish
is
part
of
the
community
rating
system
program
with
FEMA,
and
they
give
us
points.
You
know
for
our
flood
insurance
and
much
like
golf.
You
know
the
lower
score,
the
better
you
are.
We
are
now
at
a
seven
and
we,
you
know
we
approached
FEMA
before
when
we
were
first
considering
this
and
we're
going
to
get
some
major
points.
You
know
under
the
CRS
program.
E
A
Yeah,
we
were
a
lot
closer
to
nine
than
we
were
to
eight
for
a
while.
Yes,
we
were
yes,
no
I'm
very
happy
to
start
to
see
this
type
of
change.
The
master
plan,
as
you
alluded
we
passed
out
a
few
years
ago
and
and
this
type
of
blanket
change-
is
stuff
that
we
really
needed
to
do
and
to
clean
up
our
zoning
map.
So
I'm
very
excited
about
this.
Any
other
Commissioners
have
any
questions
or
comments.