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B
Good
afternoon
I'm
chair
tanya
rodriguez,
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
february
17
2022
human
relations
commission.
Virtual
meeting
we
are
coming
to
you
live
from
the
cherokee
homeland
for
the
eastern
band
of
cherokee
indians
remain
a
sovereign
nation.
To
this
day,
we
will
now
call
our
meeting
to
order
duties
of
the
human
relations
commission
of
asheville
include,
but
are
not
limited
to
one
make
policy
recommendations
to
the
city
council
which
promote
and
improve
human
relations
and
advance
equity
in
the
city.
B
B
B
Once
again,
that
number
is
eight
five,
five,
nine
two
five,
two
eight
zero
one
and
the
meeting
code
is
nine.
Seven,
two
three
for
those
of
you
who
plan
to
speak
during
our
live
public
comment.
Today,
you
will
need
to
hit
star
3
to
be
put
in
the
speaker,
queue
for
those
of
you
out
there
with
us
today
welcome
roll
call.
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
commission
members,
staff
and
guests
who
are
participating
virtually
for
our
commission
members.
B
Please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
click
raise
hand
and
when
recognized
by
the
chair,
unmute
your
microphone.
Please
please
remember
to
mute
your
microphone
after
you
are
done.
Speaking,
commission
members,
as
I
call
your
name
please
say
a
quick
hello,
see
list
of
members
provided
in
the
materials
part
of
me.
Reading.
Reading
on
the
script,
all
right,
roll
call
chair
here
vice
chair
brandon,
oliver.
B
Hello,
I'm
here,
thank
you,
commissioner,
harvey
harold.
B
Hi.
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
delores
venable.
B
B
Meeting
minutes
our
council
liaison
just
clicked
in
welcome
council
will
be
rooney.
B
Wonderful
as
well
as
well
city
staff
members,
brenda
mills.
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
today
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state.
Each
section
of
the
agenda
allowed
again.
I
asked
committee
members
to
click,
raise
hand
to
be
recognized
to
speak,
also
state
your
name
each
time.
You
comment
just
a
reminder
that
the
public
is
listening
on
the
phone,
and
this
keeps
everyone
up
to
date
on
the
order
of
the
meeting
and
who
is
commenting
or
speaking.
B
And
there
still
is
no
quorum,
so
moving
on
to
staff
updates
staff
updates
brenda,
please
update
us
on
the
introduction
of
the
equity
and
inclusion
staff
and
the
reparations
project.
A
You
got
it
good
evening,
everyone
this
is
brendan
mills
staff
liaison
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
reparations
first
we're
waiting
on
another
staff
member
who
was
doing
a
public
meet.
I
mean
a
community
meeting
this
afternoon
to
get
him
on
the
line,
so
we
had
interviews
for
the
18
applicants
who
were
eligible
to
be
considered
by
the
city
council
on
tuesday
we
got
every
one
of
them
done
from
1
30
to
5.
15.
A
council
was
really
brave.
It
was
a
long.
It
was
a
long
afternoon.
Council
will
be
submitting
the
five
I
mean
boys
and
commissions
committee
will
be
submitting
the
five
for
the
impact
focus
areas
to
council
to
approve
on
the
22nd.
A
A
I
am
very
proud
and
excited
to
invite
to
introduce
our
new
team
members
for
equity
and
inclusion.
We
are
fully
staffed
and
excited
about
the
work
marcus
kirkman,
who
is
at
the
bottom
in
the
middle
for
me,
is
our
training
consultant.
This
young
lady
behind
me
with
the
mask,
is
not
a
burglar.
That
is
elena
schmidt.
She
is
a
new
analyst
and
we're
trying
to
get
darian
on
the
phone,
but
darien
blue
is
our
outreach
coordinator.
A
I
Get
it
give
it
evening
to
everyone
I'll,
be
very
brief,
truly
a
pleasure
to
meet
some
of
you
for
the
first
time
at
least
virtually
some
of
you
have
the
opportunity
to
meet
in
person
from
the
staff
and
others.
I
look
forward
to
meeting
you.
I
am
marcus
kirkman
and
I
am
the
training
consultant
around
equity
and
inclusion
for
the
city
truly
grateful
to
be
here
and
grateful
to
be
of
service.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
Hey
y'all,
I'm
elena,
I
used
she
her
pronouns.
I
have
actually
been
with
the
city
for
three
years
and
then
I
came
over
in
parks
and
recreation.
Then
I
came
over
to
work
with
brenda,
marcus
and
darien
in
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion,
doing
research
and
data
analysis
and
I'll
be
supporting
you
all.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
brenda
and
welcome,
and
congratulations
to
all
of
you
joining
us
in
the
hrca
team
and
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion.
We
look
forward
to
your
collaboration
and
presence
here
and,
if
there's
anything
that
I
can
help
with
just
let
me
know
moving
on
to
new
business,
there
is
no
unfinished
business.
New
business
is
the
next
item
up
for
business,
and
that
brings
us
to
eric
jackson
and
cameron
henshaw
for
our
office
of
data
and
performance
presentation,
eric
and
cameron.
You
have
the
screen.
C
All
right,
let
me
just
bring
up
the
presentation.
C
All
right
well,
thank
you
all
of
you
for
your
time
tonight,
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
introduce
ourselves
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we
do
and
how
we
do
it,
and
hopefully
how
we
can
be
a
support
for
you,
as
well
as
for
the
community
and
for
other
staff.
C
My
name
is
eric
jackson.
I
manage
the
office
of
data
and
performance
we're
going
on
just
under
we're
just
under
a
year
old,
we'll
have
our
anniversary
next
month,
since
we
we
actually
got
staffed
up
normally,
I
would
be
doing
this
presentation,
together
with
one
of
our
other
staff
members
natalie
bailey,
who
is
not
able
to
make
it
here
tonight,
so
I'm
going
to
do
my
best
to
do
both
her
parts
and
mine,
but
I'll.
Also,
let
cameron
introduce
himself.
K
C
All
right
so
won't
be
taking
a
super
long
time,
but
I
want
to
just
kind
of
quickly
go
over
what
the
office's
mission
and
long-term
goals
are
a
little
bit
about
how
we
work
and
some
of
the
things
we're
working
on
right
now
and
then
kind
of
transition
to
how
it
applies
to
you
and
hopefully
some
time
for
questions
and
discussions.
G
C
Of
pull
out
a
couple
of
points
from
that,
and
the
first
is
that
word
empower
really
from
the
beginning.
Our
mission
has
not
been
to
become
a
service
bureau
where
you
come,
and
you
know
get
your
data
analysis
or
you
know
we
just
hand
over
some
data.
C
Our
role
really
is
to
help
everyone
in
the
city
do
a
better
job
of
using
data
in
their
decision
making,
for
accountability
and
for
communication,
and
that's
kind
of
the
second
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
what
is
this
actually
for,
and
it
is
very
much
to
make
sure
that
we're
focused
on
outcomes
focused
on
the
results
we're
trying
to
achieve
that.
Those
results
are
equitable
and
that
you
know
in
general
that
we're
delivering
the
results
that
we
commit
to
and
ensuring
that
we
do
that
in
an
equitable
way.
C
The
other
thing
in
pretty
much
everything
we
do
we're
kind
of
talking
both
about
the
decision
making
and
the
results,
but
also
our
communication
around
those
because
in
in
our
view,
having
kind
of
a
common
understanding
of
what
the
reality
is
and
how
we're
doing
is
foundational
to
being
able
to
do
good
communication,
whether
that
be
internally
among
staff
or
between
the
city
and
and
the
community.
C
C
Obviously,
we
need
to
maintain
good
systems
to
ensure
that
we
have
high
quality
data
that
it's
complete
and
also
that
we
have
good
governance
processes
in
place
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
inadvertently
causing
harm
either
because
we're
trying
to
make
decisions
based
on
bad
data
or
bias
data,
or
because
we're
putting
data
out
there.
That
really
needs
to
not
be
out
there.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
that
part,
but
two
of
our
goals
really
are
not
for
ourselves.
C
Therefore,
what's
going
to
be
true
for
other
people,
both
staff
and
the
community
for
staff,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
capacity
to
use
data
to
inform
their
own
decision
making
and
their
communication
around
that
and
that
they're
consistently
focusing
on
the
impact
that
our
programs
and
services
are
having
and
on
the
outcomes
that
we're
trying
to
achieve.
And
then
on
the
community
side.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
people
in
the
community
understand
what
the
city
is
doing,
why
it's
doing
it
and
how?
C
How
we're
you
know
how
well
we're
succeeding
or
not,
and
also
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
this-
are
involved
in
helping
define
what
success
means
and
I'll
kind
of
get
into
a
little
bit
of
detail
on
all
of
that.
C
So
how
do
we
work
and
we
think
about
our
work,
basically
in
these
kind
of
four
buckets
on
the
public
side?
If
we're
going
to
be
communicating
about
what
we're
doing
and
how
you
know,
what
progress
we're
making
there
need
to
be
kind
of
standard
ways
that
we
do
that.
So
people
know
what
to
expect
where
to
go,
how
to
get
that
information
in
a
consistent
way.
So
we
want
to
develop
some
standard
ways
of
sharing
out.
C
What's
going
on
that
are
grounded
in
data
and
I'll
talk
about
one
of
the
projects
in
a
minute
that
we're
using
to
try
and
build
that,
and
then
the
other
piece
is
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
able
to
use
the
data.
Sorry
got
myself
confused.
The
second
piece
of
that
is
well.
Staff
may
well
be
the
experts
in
the
resources
required
to
deliver
a
service
or
accomplish
something,
and
you
know
what
the
best
strategy
might
be
if
we're
delivering
a
service
or
trying
to
achieve
outcomes.
C
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
the
way
the
city
makes
decisions
is
grounded
in
an
objective,
some
sort
of
objective
data,
one
of
the
things
that
I
discovered
early
on
I'm
five
and
a
half
years
into
my
government
service
kind
of
not
where
I
spent
most
of
my
career
very
quickly
came
to
understand
that
if
you
want
something
to
happen
consistently
within
city
government,
it
needs
to
be
tied
into
a
process.
It
needs
to
not
be
an
extra
thing
that
staff
needs
to
remember
to
do.
C
It
needs
to
be
part
of
the
regular
job
that
they
do,
and
the
premier
process
in
city
government
is
the
annual
budget.
That's
a
that's!
Where
we're
deciding
what
resources
we're
going
to
bring
to
bear
on
the
work
on
the
services
and
initiatives
that
we're
undertaking,
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
need
to
build
that
decision-making
activity
in
there
are
other.
There
are
other
processes
where
we're
trying
to
do
that
as
well,
but
the
premier
one
and
where
we're
focusing
our
attention
this
year,
is
on
the
budget
process.
C
C
We
also
do
consulting
with
departments
and
part
of
our
philosophy,
in
that
consulting
is
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
only
facilitating
a
process
but
also
teaching
people
while
we're
doing
it
how
to
do
that
process
on
their
own
and
and
where
appropriate,
leaving
behind
some
tools
so
that
that
too
is
kind
of
training.
C
And
then
we
also
have
things
like
an
internal
newsletter
that
goes
out
a
couple
times.
A
month
in
a
discussion
channel
and
then
again,
one
of
the
important
points
here
is
we're
a
team
of
three.
We
can't
do
all
the
data-driven
decision-making
for
the
whole
city,
nor
can
we
even
take
on
all
of
the
capacity
building,
and
so
part
of
what
we
want
to
do
is
empower
other.
You
know,
as
people
learn
how
to
do
this,
allow
them
to
help
their
colleagues
and
so
to
that
end.
C
For
example,
we
have
an
internal
collaboration
group
that
meets
monthly,
where
people
can
bring
challenges
and
share
them
with
their
colleagues
and
get
their
colleagues
kind
of
help
and
perspective
on
how
to
how
to
address
those
challenges,
and
then
the
fourth
is,
of
course
governance.
I've
talked,
I
won't
go
on
about
that,
but
but
it
is
foundational
it.
You
can't
have
data
driven
decision
making.
C
If
you
don't
have
good
data
or
you
don't
have
the
data
at
all,
and
so
you
need
everything
from
automated
systems
that
are
kind
of
making
sure
that
the
data
is
up
to
date.
To
you
know
the
processes
and
procedures
that
make
sure
that
you've
got
high
quality,
that
the
data
is
not
inaccurate
or
biased
in
any
way,
and
then
also
making
sure
that
you
have
processes
and
checks
in
place
to
prevent
malicious
use
of
data,
but
also
to
prevent
accidental
harm.
C
C
C
C
It
will
be
updated
with
the
2022
data
as
soon
as
that
count
is
available
and
between
now
and
then
we're
working
them
with
them
to
put
out
some
of
the
standard
performance
measures
that
they
collect
around
homelessness,
so
that
we're
doing
a
better
job
of
just
regularly
updating
the
community
on
kind
of
the
progress
or
the
status
of
the
efforts
that
are
going
on
and
also
working
with
them
to
start
thinking
through
where
to
build
from
there
for
the
reparations
process.
C
Early
on,
we
got
involved
in
just
gathering
a
baseline
set
of
data
to
hand
over
to
the
commission,
that'll
form
and
the
project
team
that
they
can
use
to
start
their
work
and
then
we're
kind
of
ready
to
continue
providing
support
to
the
equity
department
and
the
project
team
and
and
commission,
with
getting
additional
data
helping
to
analyze
the
data
that
that
we
have
and
and
just
better
ways
to
present
that
data,
as
as
that
seems
helpful,
and
then
we
partner
with
other
equity.
C
I
would
say
that
well
over
half
of
the
work
we
do
has
an
intersection
in
some
way,
shape
or
form
with
equity,
and
so
we're
actually
super
excited
that
we
have
brenda
on
board
that
she
actually
has
staff
to
be
able
to
do
the
work
and
we'll
be
working
with
them
on
on
all
of
the
initiatives,
we're
really
looking
forward
to
being
able
to
support
their
work.
C
Some
of
the
other
work
we're
doing.
We've
been
pretty
heavily
involved
in
the
american
rescue
plaque,
arpa
or
american
rescue
plan
act
funding
process.
Our
role
so
far
has
been
on
building
good
rubrics
for
the
evaluation
of
the
request.
For
proposal
responses
that
came
in
that
are
now
in
city
council's
hands
to
to
work
on
and
then
on
the
back
end.
C
We're
working.
Our
focus
on
the
current
budget
process
is
on
having
a
more
losing
my
words,
having
a
more
systematic
way
of
doing
evaluations
of
capital
projects,
accounting
for
kind
of
all
of
our
key
priorities,
including
equity,
which
we've
woven
through
that
process
and
then
doing
a
deeper
dive
working
with
equity
and
the
budget
team
on
evaluating
kind
of
equity
impacts
for
capital
projects
and
then,
as.
C
Of
the
things
we
want
to
do
is
deliver
is
have
standard
ways
of
reporting
out
progress
and
so
we're
working
with
planning
and
urban
design
that
right
now
to
kind
of
create
a
framework
initially
on
the
website.
But
then
that
becomes
the
foundation
for
other
communications
of
just
regular
reporting
out
on
where
we
are
with
council
priorities.
The
long-term
comprehensive
plan,
starting
with
a
basic
baseline
on
where
we
are
in
the
comp
plan
and
city
council's
current
year
priorities
and
then.
G
C
Talked
through
earlier
basic
capacity
building
for
staff,
the
governance
functions
around
quality
data,
quality
data,
automation
and
so
on,
and
probably
unusually,
for
an
I.t
department.
We're
very
focused
on
our
external.
As
we
said,
part
of
our
role
here
is
to
make
sure
that
the
community
is
able
to
use
data
for
their
own.
C
As
well
as
hold
the
city
accountable,
and
so
that's
part
of
why
we're
here
tonight,
we
want
people
to
know
what
we're
doing,
how
we're
trying
to
be
a
resource
to
them,
as
well
as
to
city
staff,
and
this
is
the
part
where
natalie
would
be
doing
much
more
of
the
talking,
since
she
is
our
community
engagement
specialist,
but
she
has
been
conducting
ongoing
conversations
with
neighborhood
leaders,
community
group
leaders
talking
about
where
they
see
best
ways
for
communicating
out
progress.
C
C
Session
with
them
kind
of
learning
from
the
youth
perspective
about
city
communication,
particularly
using
data
as
well
as
where
the
issues
are
that
they're
concerned,
I
have
to
say
that
was
one
of
the
most
fun
things
I've
been
involved
in
in
quite
a
while.
They
definitely
are
our
up-and-coming
youth,
up-and-coming
generation
of
leaders.
C
So
what
does
this
all
have
to
do
with
you
and,
as
we
think
about
you
know,
trying
to
change
the
way
the
city
does,
what
it
does
and
to
make
data
available
to
the
community
to
use
for
their
own
advocacy.
C
What
we've
adopted
in
the
city
is
something
called
results-based,
accountability
or
often
referred
to
as
rba
and
there's
a
there's
kind
of
three
reasons
why
we
went
with
the
results-based
accountability
framework.
The
first
was,
and-
and
the
reason
we
even
discovered
it
in
the
first
place-
is
it
is
the
foundation
for
the
racial
equity
toolkit
that
comes
from
the
government
alliance
on
racial
equity
that
the
city
is
using
and
that
we're
actually
working
with
equity
to
currently
apply
in
the
budget
process.
C
So
rba
is
the
foundation
of
the
gear
racial
equity
toolkit.
It's
also
pretty
well
adopted
regionally,
as
well
as
nationally
it
its
early
earlier.
Adoption
here
was
around
healthcare
but
has
gone
into
education.
The
county
is
using
it,
and
so
that
was
a
good
reason
to
standardize
on
it,
and
the
most
important
reason
from
my
perspective
is
that
it's
really
simple
and
kind
of
common
sense,
common
language
focused.
C
C
C
We
tend
to
focus
on
these
kind
of
four
five
steps:
four
questions
and
a
fifth
step
that
are
slightly
simplified
version
of
it.
We
start
by
focusing
on
the
results
we
want
to
achieve.
C
How
do
we
want
our
community
or
if
it's
a
city
service,
our
customers?
How
do
we
want
them
to
be
better
off,
and
what
does
that
mean,
and
that's
obviously,
the
point
at
which
engaging
with
the
people
who
are
receiving
those
services
or
impacted
by
that
initiative
is
really
important
in
defining
what
success
means.
How
do
we
want
them
to
be
better
off,
then?
We
need
to
decide
and
agree
on
how
we're
going
to
tell
and
that's
the
performance
measures.
How
are
we
going
to
know
if
we're
if
we're
actually
succeeding?
C
If
we
have
no
objective
way
to
measure
whether
the
things
we
say
we're
going
to
do
or
are
being
done
or
are
being
accomplished,
then
we're
very
unlikely
to
be
able
to
make
good
progress
and
one
of
the
things
I
find
really
interesting
about.
Rba
is
it's
standard
in
performance
to
say
we
need
a
baseline.
We
need
to
know
where
we
are
rba
takes
that
one
step
further
and
says
we
need
to
know
where
we
are,
and
we
also
need
to
know
what
to
expect.
C
If
we
don't
do
anything
different,
so
we
want
to
think
what's
the
trend
going
to
be,
if
we
don't
change,
what
we're
doing,
is
it
going
to
stay
the
same?
Is
it
going
to
get
worse
if
it's
going
to
get
better,
maybe
we
don't
actually
need
to
take
action.
C
C
C
Is
it
good
enough
and
if
not,
what
are
our
next
steps?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
want
to
change
what
we're
doing
in
order
to
improve
the
process,
and
I
would
say
that
everything
we're
trying
to
embed
in
the
city
is
about
embedding
learning
processes
rather
than
kind
of
rigid
get
the
data
that'll
tell
you
the
answer.
It's
get
figure
out
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish
what
data
will
help
you
tell
if
you're
accomplishing
it
and
then
go
into
that
iterative
cycle
of
learning.
C
C
These
are
things
like
these
questions
are
things
that
you
can
use
in
your
work
in
this
on
this
commission
encourage
you
to
ask
yourselves
these
questions,
as
you
think
about
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish.
C
Certainly,
we
would
encourage
you
to
ask
them
of
staff,
so
this
is
now
you
know
that
kind
of
this
is
how
we,
as
a
city,
want
to
be
thinking
about
our
work
and
held
accountable
for
the
work
hold
us
to
it,
and
then
the
third
way
is
the
more
that
we
can
start
to
build
a
common
language
and
common
way
of
thinking
about
these
things
across
our
community
the
better.
So
these
are
things
where
that
you
can
use
in
your
own
lives
and
in
your
own
communities
as
well.
C
So
that's
kind
of
my
quick
overview
of
the
office
of
data
and
performance
and
what
we're
doing
we
will
share
this
presentation
with
brenda
to
share
out
with
you
and
there
are
links
to
our
webpage,
which
we
keep
updated
monthly.
C
We
have
a
quarterly
newsletter
that
you
can
sign
up
for,
if
you
like,
and
at
any
point
we
would
love
for
you
to
kind
of
reach
out
and
if
you've
got
questions
or
comments
or
anything
else,
we
would
love
to
hear
from
you
either
directly
or
through
through
brenda,
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
stop
and
see.
If
there
are
any
questions.
B
B
I
really
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and
it's
a
big
job
and
a
huge
effort,
so
thank
you
very
much.
Every
the
whole
screen
just
froze,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
can
hear
me,
I'm
gonna.
I.
B
Okay,
there
everybody's
back
so
with
a
capacity
building.
What
does
staff
capacity
mean?
How
are
you
defining
staff
capacity?
Second,
question:
government
governance
build
systems
within
build
systems.
How,
and,
and
what
protections
are
you
or
do
you
have
in
place
to
ensure
those
systems
are
equitable
and
accessible?
B
I
heard
that
you
wanted
to
prevent
people
from
accessing
data
that
maybe
they
don't
need
to
have
access
to.
What
are
you
putting
into
place
to
make
sure
that
people
can
access
the
data
that
they
need
to
access?
And
next
question
is
equity
and
capital
projects?
B
I
posted
the
white
house
executive
order
for
racial
equity
because
I
noticed
that
you
put
in
we
wanted
to
create
a
shared
narrative
in
your
last
slide,
so
bringing
in
a
shared
narrative
about
equity
within
capital
projects,
to
make
sure
that
equity
isn't
confused
with
diversity
or
inclusion.
B
C
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
try
and
and
answer
all
the
questions
and
then,
if
I've
missed
something,
please
point
me
back
to
whatever
I
missed
sort
of
working
backward
environmental
equity.
There
is
some
work
there.
In
fact,
I
think
recently
there
was
a
an
environmental
justice
kind
of
analysis
that
went
on
an
environmental
justice
index
that
was
done
between
the
sustainability
office,
the
equity
office
and
our
geographic
information
systems
division
in
it.
C
So
that
is
starting
that
work
and-
and
I
believe
they
are
currently
doing
a
gap
analysis.
One
of
the
things
I
would
say,
maybe
kind
of
combining
two
of
your
questions.
C
One
is:
how
do
we
decide
on
kind
of
the
the
narrow
down
the
universe
of
what
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
really
consider,
because
there
are
needs
that
go
far
far
beyond
what
might
be
funded
in
any
given
year.
So
how
do
we
kind
of
narrow
that
list
in
a
way
that
that
makes
sense
and
we're
where
we
have
a
systematic
way
of
thinking
about
that?
C
C
It
actually
comes
up
in
three
ways
because
it
does
come
in
through
the
environmental
justice
aspect
as
well,
so
that
you
really
can't
do
super
badly
on
equity,
but
still
get
a
high
score.
So
that's
just
thinking
systematically.
How
do
you
make
sure?
That's
true?
The
second
part
we're
doing
on
the
capital
improvements
project.
C
Through
the
questions
to
see
one,
what
are
the
impacts
and
once
we've
named
the
impacts,
what
are
the
strategies
we're
using
to
mitigate
them,
and
I
think
it's
very
much
in
the
spirit
of
the
executive
order.
C
B
Since,
since
equity
is
an
analysis
of
policy
and
practices
in
the
city
and
in
city
policy,
equities
and
analyzing
policy
and
practices
of
city
policy
for
adverse
impact,
right.
H
B
How
are
you
going
to
choose
which
policy
has
the
most
impact?
How
much
staff
are
you
utilizing
in
this?
And
what's
the
timeline
for
the
data?
B
Because
there's
a
you
know:
oftentimes
people
confuse
equity
with
diversity
and
don't
realize
that
equity
within
what
you're
doing
is
in
data
collection
lives
in
the
analysis
of
policy
and
the
adverse
impacts
those
policy
has
may
have
on
people
within
the
city
in
the
city
and
outside
of
the
city
paul's.
So
what
is
the
timeline
on
an
analysis
like
that,
and
is
that
something
that
your
office
is
doing,
because
I'm
I'm
concerned
with
the
simple
process
grounded
and
simple
questions?
B
Each
of
those
bullet
points
to
me
felt
not
based
in
equity
and
are
rife
with
inequitable
potential
inequitable
potentialities.
B
So
so
what
are
you
going
to
put
into
place
to
make
sure
that
this
analysis
that
you're.
B
It
sounds
like
a
huge
job
is
going
to
be
grounded
in
equity
in
and
in
in
the
adverse
impact
of
of
potential
and
equitable
policy
and
practices
within
the
city.
C
So
you
are
right,
it
is
a
huge
job
and
it's
certainly
not
one
that
we
can
even
pretend
as
an
office
to
be
doing.
This
is
everything
we
do
is
in
partnership.
So,
for
example,
well
let
me
start
with
the
actual
rba
piece
that
you
just
brought
up.
You're
right,
you
can
do
that.
You
can
answer
those
questions
without
regard
to
equity
and
come
up
with
measurements
and
strategies
that
continue
to
do
damage
easily
one
of
the
things.
C
The
reason
we
got
to
rba
is
not
because
in
it
in
and
of
itself,
doesn't
you
know
it
prevents
that,
but
because
it
was
the
foundation
for
the
racial
equity
toolkit
that
brings
in
the
layer
of
questions
that
says.
What's
the
history,
what
are
the
adverse
impacts?
How
do
they
work
and
then
how
are
we
going
to
either
prevent
or
mitigate
them?
C
That
analysis,
just
to
be
honest,
is
is
hard
and
does
require
a
lot
of
thought.
So
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
in
partnership
with
the
equity
and
inclusion
department.
C
The
budget
office
in
this
process
is,
and-
and
we
have
a
a
student
from
western
carolina
helping-
is
to
start
building
tools
that
help
us
walk
through
that
find
the
places
that
are
going
to
be
hard
for
people
for
whom
this
is
new
and
and
build
the
support
structures
around.
That
we've
got
quite
a
bit
of
data
that
we
can
use
and
share
with
departments
applying
that
data,
and
the
analysis
is
something
that
we
need
to
make
easier
for
departments
to
do
everything
we're
doing.
We
see
on
a
as
a
as
a
process.
C
We
can't
change
everything
in
the
way
that
the
city
works
all
at
once,
we're
trying
to
teach
people
how
to
do
this
better
and
so
bringing
in
bringing
these
these
improved
ways
of
doing
things
into
particular
points
of
the
process
proving
it
out.
C
C
C
It's
less
a
question
of
knowledge
and
more
a
question
of
kind
of
learning
the
process
and
having
the
discipline
to
kind
of
stick
to
it
and
work
through
the
hard
questions
and
so
figuring
out
where
those
sticking
points
are
and
then
building
tools
and
supports,
for
it
is
a
core
part
of
the
work
that
we're
trying
to
do
this
year
with
equity,
while
performing
the
analysis
wherever
we're
actually
trying
to
do
it.
Is
that
making
any
sense
at
all.
B
M
Yes,
hi.
Thank
you
eric
for
being
here,
I
have
a
question
about
our
houses
community.
You
had
mentioned
that
it
is
this
department
that
takes
the
number
of
unsheltered
people
annually
and
that
you
collect
data
about
our
unsheltered
folks
in
other
ways
as
well.
I
did
see
that
there
is
a
request
for
a
consultant
to
apply
to
further
kind
of
gather
data
and
then
make
a
report
and
recommendations
to
the
city
on
on
how
to
best
help.
M
C
So
again,
one
thing:
I
want
to
really
emphasize
we're
three
people
serving
all
of
the
departments
in
the
city
and
we're
not
specialists
in,
for
example,
homelessness
or
equity
itself,
or
the
fire
department,
or
anything
else.
Our
our
role
is
to
help
those
specialists
do
their
job.
So,
for
example,
with
the
homelessness
efforts
we
can
bring
in
two
kinds
of
expertise.
We
can
bring
in
expertise
around
how
best
to
think
about
presenting
that
data
and
we
can
bring
in
expertise
around.
C
C
D
C
Any
sort
of
initiative
it's
more
of
a
thinking
process
and
I
want
to
get
back
to
the
question
about
the
data
governance
piece,
it's
more
about
how
you
think,
through
that
process
than
being
a
specialist
in
the
subject
area
and
the
data
around
that
subject:
area
itself.
One
thing.
C
Just
in
terms
of
data
governance,
we
have
a
so
there
are
multiple
layers
if
we're
going
to
release
a
data
set,
for
example-
and
I
can
I'll
give
you
one
specific
example:
we
have
data
on
employees
on
our
open
data
portal,
with
salaries
and
positions
and
and
it
that
data
has
actually
been
out
there
for
years
long
before
this
office
was
formed,
we
have
since
begun
putting
in
place
a
much
more
deliberate
process
of
asking
what
the
potential
harms
are
of
any
of
the
data
that
goes
out
there
and
looking
at
that,
we
realized
that
we
were
putting
out
information
on
first
names
that
were
legal
first
names
rather
than
preferred
first
names
and
thereby
not
necessarily
putting
out
information
that
was
aligned
with
the
gender
identification
of
people
on
staff.
C
And
so
we
are
in
the
process
of
building
internal
processes
working
with
hr,
to
make
sure
that
the
names
that
are
published
are
the
preferred
names
to
make
sure
that
people
have
control
over
what
that
information
is
until
that
time,
we've
pulled
that
first
name
and
are
no
longer
publishing
it,
since
there
was
a
potential
to
do
harm
by
putting
it
out
there.
C
So
that
kind
of
question
is
one
where
we're
putting
process
in
place
to
ask
the
question
up
front
rather
than
discovering
it
later
because
of
harm
done,
which
is
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do.
C
Having
those
standard
questions
again,
using
things
like
the
racial
equity
toolkit
in
the
process
of
data
release
is
one
of
the
things
we
can
do.
The
other
thing
we
can
do
very
often
you
will
make
a
change
in
one
place
in
a
system
that
has
an
impact
on
data,
that's
being
used,
someplace
completely
different,
and
so
the
people
doing
the
one
change
and
the
people
doing.
The
other
change
are
different
and
and
don't
necessarily
know
about
each
other.
C
So
we
are
in
the
process
of
building
systems
that
kind
of
capture
those
dependencies
and
are
able
to
allow
us
to
say
this
change
may
affect
that
data.
Is
there
anything
that
that
we
need
to
be
concerned
about
there
and
again
to
go
through
just
a
standard
list
of
questions
to
make
sure
that
we're
thinking
about
the
potential
for
doing
harm.
M
F
Everyone
for
your
work.
Thank
you
melanie
for
giving
me
some
time
to
speak
for
a
second
very
quickly,
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
ask
a
question
to
actually
to
and
make
a
statement
upon.
So
I
really
do
appreciate
it
again.
You
know
actually
trying
to
take
the
time
to
do
data
analysis,
because
we
do
need
that
because
it's
part
of
a
truth
and
reconciliation
process
that
we
need
to
have
here
in
this
city
as
well.
F
But
I
really
do
feel
like
some
of
the
truth
and
reconciliation
processes
are
part
of
lived
experiences,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
like
about
the
stents
is
that
you
take
people
from
communities
and
you
let
them
go
to
places
and
the
best
way
to
work
the
census.
Is
you
get
people
who
can
go
out
here
and
collect
data
from
people
that
they
actually
know
live
in
communities
with
and
have
the
truth
about
them?
F
So
I'm
wondering
if
this
is
something
that
the
city
of
asheville
is
prepared
to
do
in
that
position
with
several
groups
of
people,
because
in
order
to
be
able
to
change
the
dynamics
and
the
situations
of
people,
we
have
to
know
their
lived
histories,
their
little
stories,
their
experiences.
F
I
do
believe
in
data
collection
as
far
as
governmental
entities.
I
do
believe
in
data
from
you
know,
algorithms
and
and
such,
but
we
do
need
to
be
able
to
have
a
person
to
person
in
touch
approaching
ashland
able
to
be
able
to
change
some
of
the
dynamics
that
have
happened
here
over
the
decades
and
sometimes
centuries
of
hurt
harm
trauma,
financial
and
just
everything
that
you
can
think
of
that
hurts
human
beings.
F
So
I
would
like
to
know
if
your
department
is
also
willing
to
be
able
to
maybe
use
some
things
like
black
college
students
who
go
to
hbcus,
that
need
college
credit
in
order
to
you
know
graduate
or
be
able
to
have
experiences
to
be
able
to
go,
collect,
person-to-person
data
to
go
out
in
these
neighborhoods.
They
grew
up
in
they
lived
in
and
their
families
lived
in.
F
People
of
every
type
of
ancestry,
be
it
native
american,
be
it
hispanic,
whatever
homelessness,
we
need
to
be
able
to
give
people
opportunities
to
talk
to
the
people
that
they
recognize
and
know
the
most.
So
I
like
to
hear
more
about
how
your
office
is
going
to
be
able
to,
or
is
willing
to
be
able
to
facilitate
that
type
of
conversation
within
the
community.
Thank
you
again.
C
So
that's
before
I
answer
the
specific
question.
I
think
I
just
want
to
clarify
one
thing
when
I
use
the
word
data
that
tends
to
bring
to
my
numbers
only-
and
I
do
want
to
emphasize
that
when,
when
I
say
the
word
data
that
includes
a
really
important
category
of
data,
which
is
narrative,
data,
they're
good
for
different
kinds
of
purposes,
but
both
are
really
important.
There's
kind
of
numerical
data,
narrative
data
and
the
context
around
that.
C
So
to
your
specific
question,
I
think
that
is
something
that
we
are
very
interested
in,
facilitating
a
conversation
around
there
are.
You
know
there
are
some
kinds
of
data
collection
that
are
just
highly
technical,
particularly
if
it's
internal
administrative
systems,
those
are
pretty
straightforward.
C
If
we're
trying
to
measure
the
impact
on
communities,
then
engaging
with
those
communities
to
understand
that
impact
is
really
critical
and
you're.
Absolutely
right
how
you
gather
that
information
has
all
kinds
of
issues
with
it
from
you
know.
Who
is
it
that
that
is
in
the
process
of
collecting
that
data?
C
Some
people
are
going
to
be
trusted,
other
people
or
not,
and
then
building
guarantees
around
what
the
use
of
that
data
is
so
that
people
can
be
confident
of
that
there
are
controls
in
place
or
that
they
really
understand
how
the
data
is
going
to
be
used.
C
So,
yes
on
just
to
repeat
on
anything
that
we're
doing
we're
partnering
with
a
department
in
some
way
or
a
community
group
or
somebody
to
do
it,
we're
not
trying
to
do
all
this
them
ourselves,
but
facilitating
that
kind
of
conversation
is
very
interesting
and
absolutely
interested
in
doing
that.
F
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
response.
I
do
understand
this
is
a
very
layered
situation.
These
are
things
that
a
lot
of
cities
have
not
done
yet
and
we're
starting
to
start
conversations
here
in
asheville
that
are
very
pivotal
to
starting
conversations
across
our
state
and
across
our
country.
So
I
do
respect
people
taking
the
time
and
initiative
to
be
able
to
do
things.
F
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
very
inclusive
and
not
leaving
people
out
that
have
not
had
a
speed
at
the
table
yet
that
suffer
from
the
same
sometimes
data
that
has
been
kind
of
miss
screwed
towards
groups
or
individuals.
So
I
do
appreciate
your
response
and
I
I
and
I
do
believe
that
you
all
are
looking
for
a
better
way.
So
thank
you.
C
B
M
C
M
B
Commissioner,
venable
and
eric
we've
got
another
question,
commissioner
noyes.
M
Yeah,
I
have
a
question
that
has
a
few
parts:
one
is
there
any
black
indigenous
are
people
of
color
in
your
department
and,
if
not
like,
what
is
what
is
the
plan
for
reaching
out
to
black
indigenous
or
people
of
color
to
help
interpret
the
data.
C
So
and
unfortunately,
particularly
for
that
question,
natalie
bailey
was
not
able
to
be
with
us
tonight,
natalie
is,
is
a
black
native
of
asheville,
so
we
we
have
a
black
woman
in
our
team
and
otherwise
it's
me
and
cameron.
C
Obviously,
with
three
people,
we
can't
represent
all
the
groups,
so
even
though
we
do
have
some
representation,
I
think
it's
really
important
that
on
all
of
this,
that's
part
of
why
there
needs
to
be
a
community
component
in
defining
success
in
interpreting
success
and
deciding,
depending
on
on
what
it
is.
C
It
may
be
in
in
terms
of
deciding
strategies
so
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
do,
and
I
think
in
collaboration
with
equity
and
inclusion,
because
this
is
very
much
caught
up
in
how
we
change
the
way
we
do
things
so
that
we
are
no
longer
having
the
kinds
of
negative
impacts
that
we've
had
historically
bringing.
C
The
tools
and
the
the
frameworks
that
allow
us
to
think
differently
about
how
we
do
that,
including
making
sure
that
we're
involving
community
at
critical
parts
of
the
process
from
the
formulation
of
what
the
questions
are
through
collection
of
data
through
decision
about
strategies
and
so
on.
Now,
obviously
we're
not
in
charge
of
all
those
things.
B
Thank
you
very
much
eric
and
commissioner
noez,
dolores
commissioner
de
venable.
Would
you
like
to
share
another
question.
F
No,
I
was
gonna
share,
a
statement,
natalie
bailey
and
I
actually
graduated
from
asheville
high
school
in
the
same
class
in
1996..
So
it
was
very
refreshing
to
see
that
she
was
put
in
that
position
with
your
office.
So
that's
a
really
great
thing
too
to
let
you
lets
us
know
that
as
locals,
also
that
we
have
a
chance
to
be
able
to
work
within
the
city
that
we
were
raised
in.
So
I
really
do
respect
that
aspect
of
the
conversation
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
adding
that
on
as
well
eric.
Thank
you.
C
Any
other
questions
or
clarifications
I
can
obviously-
and-
and
I
do
want
to
emphasize-
that
what
we're
working
on
is
just
as
with
equity
and
inclusion
department.
What
we're
working
on
is
a
pretty
significant
culture
change
within
the
organization
and
so
all
of
our
thinking
there
are
certain
things
we
can
do
quickly.
Other
things
we're
really
trying
to
think
through
how
to
embed
the
changes
in
the
way
things
are
done
and
that's
a
slower
process.
C
C
C
So
I
will
speak
to
that
partly
and
then,
in
the
end,
it's
up
to
equity
and
inclusion
to
say
whether
we're
succeeding
in
doing
that.
So
we
do
have
sort
of
unusually
for
a
city
program.
We
have
a
governance
team
that
so
we
live
inside
of
a
department,
we're
part
of
the
it
department
and
that
lives
in
the
hierarchy
is
just
as
with
any
other
division.
C
In
addition,
we
have
a
cross-departmental
governance
team
that
includes
everybody
from
the
city
attorney
brad
branham
is
is
on
that
team.
We
have
representation
from
the
city,
manager's
office,
a
variety
of
departments,
and
we
always
have
somebody
from
equity.
G
C
We're
really
excited
now
to
have
elena,
as
part
of
the
board
that
oversees
our
work
with
brenda
is
invited
to
all
the
meetings
as
well,
but
she's
always
invited
to
way
more
meetings
that
she
could
possibly
do
so
that's
one
way,
but
the
other
way
so,
for
example,
in
the
work
that
we're
doing
on
the
budget,
elena,
is
part
of
the
team.
That's
looking
at
the
you
know,
applying
the
racial
equity
toolkit
to
capital
projects.
C
Part
of
why
we're
so
excited
about
having
equity
and
inclusion
staffed
up
is
we're
very
focused
and
trying
to
apply
those
principles
ourselves,
but
we
need
help
and
so
being
able
to
have
the
staff
who
can
participate
and
be
at
the
table
through.
All
of
these
is
really
important
to
us,
and
I
think
I
think
we
we
do
reasonably
well
at
making
sure
that
we're
letting
folks
in
equity
know
when
we're
up
to.
C
So
that
they
can
weigh
in
we
did
we
waited
until
everybody
was
on
board
but
sent
out
a
list
to
everybody
on
the
equity
team
of
all
the
projects
that
odep
is
in
that
we
think
might
be
of
relevance
to
equity
and
invited
them
to
kind
of
name
the
ones
where
we
really
really
need
you
here,
but
also
here
are
all
the
other
things.
So
you
may,
you
may
want
to
be
involved,
or
at
least
we'll
keep
you
informed.
So
that's
kind.
L
C
Our
approach
to
making
sure
that
equity
and
inclusion
is
involved
in
everything
we
do.
B
Wonderful,
thank
you
very
much
eric.
Thank
you
cameron.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Noez
espinoza.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Venable
for
bringing
in
those
really
tough
questions
and
eric.
You
know
your
champ,
you
you
did
it.
You
made
it
through
the
hrca.
C
I'll
be
honest
part
of
the
culture
change
we're
trying
to
bring
is
to
welcome
challenge
because
it's
the
only
way
we
learn.
So
I
really
appreciate
your
taking
the
time
if
you
know
I
I
don't
know.
If
my
answers
are
satisfying
you
or
not,
that's
fine
keep
challenging
us
keep
challenging
the
rest
of
city
staff.
That's
actually
the
only
way
we're
gonna
get
the
improvement
that
we
need.
So
I
appreciate
your
time
tonight
so
much.
B
A
B
Wonderful,
thank
you
very
much
eric.
Is
there
anything
that
cameron
would
like
to
add
before
we
before
we
wrap
your
presentation?
Do
you
feel
complete.
K
To
hear
all
of
your
questions,
I
feel
like
like
eric,
was
saying
it's
just
wonderful,
to
hear
those
those
challenging
questions,
and
I
feel,
like
eric,
always
puts
a
lot
of
effort
into
answering
them.
So
yeah.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
be
here
and
listen
and
appreciate
it.
B
C
A
L
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
before
I
introduce
myself.
I
just
want
to
say
man
that
was
a
lot
of
great
information,
a
lot
of
great
questions
that
were
asked
and
that
was
very
informative.
L
Darien
blew
working
directly
under
miss
brenda
mills
and
office
of
equity
and
inclusion,
with
a
focus
on
community
engagement
and
outreach,
been
doing
this
work
for
close
to
20
years
now,
florida
to
georgia
to
south
carolina
even
out
of
the
country,
and
so
I
am
really
excited
to
be
a
part
of
such
a
wonderful
group,
a
wonderful
team
just
to
really
help
see
this
vision
come
to
pass,
and
so
I'm
here
for.
However,
any
of
you
need
me-
and
I'm
just
really
excited
to
be
here.
B
This
really
powerful
team
that
brenda's
putting
together
for
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
for
the
city
of
asheville
next
item
up
for
business
are
committee
updates.
Commission
updates
are
these
are
key
actions
from
our
retreat
and,
in
this
item
of
business
I'll
be
calling
on
a
representative
from
each.
B
Committee
that
we
created
during
the
hrca
retreat
to
just
get
an
update
on
what's
going
on
in
the
committee
on
the
working
group.
Also
working
group
committee
is
a
term
that
I'll
be
using
interchangeably
so
within
these
working
groups
that
were
created
during
the
hrca
retreat,
I'm
just
going
to
bring
up
some
updates
in
that.
So
our
first
working
group
committee,
inter
government
relations
in
that
working
group
is
alex
tiffany
me
and
brandon,
and
so
far
there
has
been
no
action
yet
as
of
yet
within
that
working
group.
B
Our
next
working
group
is
community
engagement,
which
consists
of
susie
chandler,
who
commissioner
chandler,
who
is
on
leave
me
tiffany,
yvonne
and
harvey,
and
I
haven't
typically
seen
I
haven't
seen
an
email
commissioner.
Harold
do
you
have
any
updates
on
the
community
engagement
working
group.
D
Commissioner,
I
have
been
working,
you
know
solely
on
my
own,
but
I
have
a
lot
of
my
own
notes
on
the
community
engagement
and
I
would
love
to
share
them
with
you,
and
you
know
my
rest
of
my
group
as
well,
but
I
haven't
got.
I
haven't
been
associated
with
anybody
else,
but
I
would
love
to
get
in
touch
with
somebody
else.
B
Awesome
would
you
would
you
be
interested
in
setting
up
a
meeting
so
that
we
can
talk
about
what's
going
on
within
your
notes,
and
then
we
can
bring
to
the
hrca
actionable
items
that
we
can
work
on
together?
Is
that
something
that
would
interest
you,
commissioner?.
B
You
thank
you.
The
next
working
group
is
addressing
housing
issues,
which
is
commissioner
chandler,
who
is
not
present
right
now,
so
leave
me
and
commissioner
neues
espinoza.
Are
there
any
updates
on
the
houseless,
houselessness
housing
issues
working
group.
M
Hey
there
yeah,
it
was
my
intention
to
start
doing
some
research
on
sanctuary,
camping
and
some
some
numbers
and
data
that
comes
along
with
that.
Unfortunately,
I
haven't
gotten
to
it
yet,
but
our
homelessness
initiative.
I
don't
know
the
name
of
that
group
correctly
but,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
they're
on
the
search
for
a
consultant
to
gather
some
more
data
on
our
houses
community
in
asheville,
and
I
think
the
deadline
for
that
is
sometime
mid-march
and
then
they'll
be
announcing
who
who
the
consultant
is
by
april
end
of
april.
M
I
believe,
but
in
the
meantime
I
do
still
think
personally
and
from
other
community
leaders
in
town
that
sanctuary
camping
should
still
be
a
priority,
and
I
do
plan
on
presenting
some
information
to
y'all
very
soon
about
that.
So
that's.
B
It
thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
nuyas
espinoza.
Our
next
working
group
update,
is
examining
systems
that
working
group
is
consists
of
commissioner
harvey
commissioner
venable
and
commissioner
young.
Are
there
any
updates
for
the
examining
systems
working
group?
Commissioner
venable.
F
All
right,
hi
folks,
can
you
hear
me
hey
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
that
we're
having
a
lot
of
things
changing
and
dynamics
within
our
city,
governance
and
our
systems
as
well?
F
F
Because
I
think
sometimes
people
can
get
misconstrued
with
words
and
interference,
so
I
I
just
chose
to
sit
back
on
this
one
and
watch
what
was
going
on
with
some
other
things.
That's
going
on
systematically
with
systemically
within
our
city
and
what's
going
on
with
other
things
within
our
own
governance,.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner,
for
our
next
working
group
update.
We
have
improving
hrca,
which
consists
of
commissioner
venable
and
commissioner
young.
F
We
can
talk
to
members.
We
can
try
to
see
what's
going
on
as
far
as
community,
but
it's
better
to
see
what
is
going
on.
As
far
as
the
feel
from
our
government.
F
And
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
talk
with
each
other.
It's
been
very
brief
as
well.
I
think
now
the
mass
mandate
is
over,
that
it
might
be
a
conversation
that
hopefully,
city
council
has,
along
with
other,
because
county
commissioners
meet
in
person.
So
I
think
once
this
mass
mandate
has
been
dropped
as
it
has
it.
We
might
have
opportunity
to
meet
in
person,
be
able
to
hash
some
things
out
more
in
person
than
it
is
behind
closed
doors.
G
D
Going
back
to
examine
the
systems,
I
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
commissioner
venable
last
night.
Anita
is
daniel.
Commissioner
young
here
tonight.
D
Okay,
because
I
had
a
lot
of
things
on
that
and
would
love
to
get
in
touch
with
him
as
well
I'll
have
an
outlet
to
commissioner
minimal.
As
I
said,
okay,
that's
the
only
thing
I
needed
to
know.
Thank
you.
B
E
However,
I'm
savvy
at
doing
so
just
wanting
to
say
that
I
have,
in
the
past
six
months,
stepped
up
engagement
across
the
housing
authority
for
the
city
of
asheville,
as
the
communication
liaison
looking
at
a
lot
of
interesting
points
as
we
pivot
towards
this
new
year.
E
They
are
starting
to
talk
about
the
voucher
programs
and
things
that
will
be
changing
throughout
this
next
year
and
getting
the
information
out
so
housing
authority
is
doing
a
very
good
job
at
getting
that
information
out.
I
myself
have
been
working
with
them
to
help
people
understand
the
changes
that
are
getting
ready
to
take
place,
and
that
is
giving
us
hope
to
stop
the
homelessness
in
our
communities
as
well,
environmental
safety
being
a
key
in
this
all
the
quality
of
living
as
well.
E
So
those
are
some
key
points
that
we
are
working
with
through
the
resident
council
to
communicate
with
other
residents
peer
residents
and
community
liaisons.
I
myself
am
not
a
part
of
any
of
these
community
groups.
However,
I
would
very
much
so
be
interested
in
participating,
as
my
information
is
made
public
on
all
of
the
information
that
was
sent
out
in
the
pdfs.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
reed
there
in
your
email
that
brenda
sent
out
is
this
list
of
the
different
working
groups
and
everything
like
that.
So
take
a
look
at
all
of
the
different
working
groups
and
the
things
that
we
discussed
during
the
retreat
and
find
which
one
you
got
it.
B
That's
the
one
and
find
which
one
that
speaks
to
you
the
most
and
if
you
do,
you
know
reach
out
to
the
people
that
you
see
in
the
working
group
and
connect,
and
you
know,
bring
your
wisdom
and
your
expertise
in
there.
We
we're
glad
that
you're
here.
Finally,.
F
Hey,
thank
you
folks.
I
appreciate
you
all
councilman
rooney
for
recognizing
me
as
well.
This
is
a
question
for
you.
I
guess
for
councilwoman,
rony
and
also
brad.
Maybe
what's
the
likelihood
that
since
the
mass
mandate
has
been
lifted
here
in
buckland
county
and
that
also
you
know,
we
have
new
cdc
recommendations.
F
What's
the
likelihood
that
we
could
have?
Maybe-
and
I
know
this
is
a
really
kind
of
layered
question
to
ask-
because
I
do
think
we
do
better
work,
sometimes
when
we're
amongst
each
other,
because
we
can
actually
be.
I
just
believe
that
communal
communities
meet
better
when
you're
in
the
community
that
you're
meeting
in
and
you
see,
people
you
talk
to
people,
you
could
be
around
people.
F
The
retreat
was
such
an
awesome
vibe,
and
so
I
want
to
get
back
to
that
in
some
kind
of
ways
and
we're
still
at
that
not
saying
that
we've
lost
anything
but
just
saying
that
it's
just
great
to
have
that
type
of
vibe
and
energy
with
each
other
and
be
around
each
other
and
have
the
same
type
of
you
know
momentum
that
we
we
have
as
people
in
everyday
life.
So
what
do
you
think
might
be
the
likelihood
of
us
meeting
in
person
soon?
G
So,
thank
you
for
that
question
dolores.
I.
That
ties
in
with
the
announcement
that
I
was
going
to
make
is
that
our
city
council
meeting
will
be
in
person
at
the
civic
center
in
the
banquet
hall.
This
coming
tuesday
at
five
o'clock,
that's
tuesday
february
22nd,
and
before
that
our
budget
work
session,
the
first
budget
work
session
of
the
cycle
will
be
in
person
as
well.
Perhaps
our
staff
could
speak
to
if
there
are
expectations
of
when
our
advisory
boards
would
also
be
returning
to
in
person.
H
Yeah,
I
can
probably
speak
to
that
councilwoman
rohney
and
thank
you
for
your
question,
commissioner.
Middlebull.
The
the
short
answer
is
we're
not
100
sure,
but
we
do
now
plan
to
begin
phasing
in
the
boards
and
commissions
back
to
an
in-person
setting.
Now
that
the
city
council
is
returning
to
in
person
so
very
similar
to
what
you're.
Seeing
with
what
the
county
is
doing,
you
are
going
to
begin
seeing
the
city
slowly
transition
back
as
we
see
appropriate
and
its
conditions
allow.
H
Now
some
of
that
is
going
to
be
dependent
upon
the
technology,
because
we
want
to
be
able
to
continue
to
provide
access
to
those
members
of
our
community
that
want
to
have
the
ability
to
comment
to
watch
these
meetings
in
the
conditions
that
they
feel
safe
and
secure
in,
but
more
than
likely.
What
you're
going
to
see
is
following
the
city
council
over
the
next
couple
of
months.
First
you're
gonna
see
city
council
committees
and
then
some
of
the.
H
What
we'll
call
the
statutorily
required
boards
and
commissions,
the
ones
that
are
created
by
state
statute,
move
to
in
person
followed
by
all
of
the
boards
and
commissions.
In
a
rolling
process
so
expect
that
all
to
be
rolling
out
over
the
next
couple
months
and
as
we
firm
up
that
schedule,
we're
going
to
release
that
to
the
public
and
all
the
boards
commission
members.
So
they
can
see
exactly
what
to
expect.
F
Well,
thank
you
so
much
to
the
both
of
y'all
that
really
just
gave
my
face.
A
whole
smile
make
me
get
through
friday,
easy.
So
that's
a
wonderful
glad
to
hear,
because
I
think
people
do
really
work
better
when
we're
in
a
situation
where
we're
working
together
instead
of
working
in
these
different
places
and
spaces
that
we
really
don't
have
a
chance
to
get
to
know
each
other
and-
and
it's
just
me
know-
and
it's
been
so
great
here
without
bored,
because
we've
been
able
to
go
through
this
for
a
long
period
of
time.
F
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Venable
moving
on
to
our
next
item.
Up
for
business,
are
there
any
more
community
announcements.
B
Wonderful,
our
next
item
up
for
business
is
live
public
comment.
Brenda
do
we
have
anybody
in
the
queue.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Brenda
next
item
up
for
business
is
future
agenda
items;
training
in
city
mandated
equity
inclusion
process,
collaboration
with
city
to
create
a
complaint
form
from
residents
to
city
accountability,
pipeline
for
complaints,
process
for
city
of
asheville
to
city
employees
and
resident
complaints,
lgbtqia
discrimination,
protections
and
complaints
process
which
has
already
been
established.
B
We
still
need
to
check
into
a
little
bit
more
of
that
ada
compliance
and
complaints
process,
working
on
that
creation
of
volunteer
mentorship
program
to
support
returning
citizens,
public
safety,
fair
and
equitable
housing
and
environmental
climate
concerns.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
up,
commissioner
reed
at
this
time.
Our
next
item
up
for
business
is
adjournment.
We
do
not
need
to
call
for
a
vote
if
there
is
no
other
business.
We
will
adjourn.
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
tonight.
Thank
you
for
all
of
your
service
and
input
and
keep
on
showing
up
and
keeping
it
real.
Thank
you
very
much
city
of
asheville.
Thank
you,
brenda.
Thank
you,
brad.
Thank
you,
councilwoman
rooney.
Thank
you
all
to
the
commissioners.
Thank
you,
city
of
asheville.
Take
it
easy
and
be
well.