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B
Thanks
amy
good
afternoon
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
july
28
2021
city
of
asheville,
multimodal
transportation
commission
meeting.
My
name
is
dennis
wenzel
and
I'm
the
chair
of
this
group.
We
are
meeting
virtually
hopefully
just
one
more
time,
but
there
are
multiple
ways
for
you
to
be
involved
to
take
involvement
into
this
meeting.
B
Participation
details,
including
links
and
phone
numbers
and
all
kinds
of
good
stuff,
can
be
found
on
the
multimodal
transportation
commission
page
of
the
city
of
asheville
website
visiting
this
page
is
the
best
way
to
participate
in
our
virtual
meetings,
members,
staff
and
guests.
Please
remember
to
keep
your
microphones
muted
at
all
times
when
you're,
not
speaking,
so
we
can
minimize
feedback
and
other
background
noise.
B
B
Hey
randy,
michael
stratton,.
D
Hey
everybody
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
michael
stratton.
I'm
currently.
B
At
large,
great
hi,
michael
kenny,
armstrong.
F
B
B
Excellent
john
wasson.
H
I'm
john
pasoni,
I
am
on
the
transit
committee,
hey
john.
A
Hey
gang
maggie
element-
hot,
I
don't
know
about
y'all
and
from
the
bike,
is
the
bike
fed
committee.
B
We
got
working
on
that
and
we'll
get
that
information
to
you
bill.
Welcome
we're
excited
to
have
you
with
us
and
we're
looking
forward
to
your
participation
and
the
and
the
the
good
ideas
that
you'll
bring
to
this
group.
Thank
you.
F
B
All
right,
next,
let's
get
into
the
agenda
here:
okay,
we'd
like
to
go
through
and
review
our
agenda
review
and
approve
our
agenda
for
today.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
B
I
beg
your
pardon.
I
always
do
that
anna
sexton.
J
L
Afternoon,
everyone,
joe
archbald
on
the
planing
and
zoning
commission,
liaison
to
multimodal
transportation
welcome
bill,
look
forward
to
working
with
you
on
this
commission.
B
I
haven't
seen
kim
pop
up
quite
yet,
I'm
sure
she's
got
a
lot
of
things
going
on
and
she'll
be
with
us
in
a
couple
of
minutes.
Sorry
about
that
in
my
sheet
here
that
happened
last
month
too,
it's
just
below
my
fold
and
I
I
skip
it.
So
I
apologize.
B
B
C
Hi
hi
michael.
C
F
H
B
F
B
And
bill
hi
and
I
wrote
I
as
well,
you
guys
have
it
motion
approves.
The
next
item
is
our
minutes
from
the
june
23rd
a
meeting.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
B
Thank
you
maggie
for
a
second
any
comments
or
questions
on
those
minutes.
D
I've
got
a
question
is
michael
stratton,
so
I
noticed
on
the
minutes,
number
nine.
It
mentioned
joe
archibald
and
made
a
comment
regarding
in-person
meetings.
I
didn't
exactly
say
what
that
comment
was
about
it's
kind
of
a
hot
topic
at
this
point.
So
I'd
be
curious
to
know
if
we
can
make
sure
that
that
comment
is
goes
on
record
as
as
one
way
or
the
other.
B
Okay,
do
you
have
some
clarification
on
what
the
comment
might
be?
You
have
a
recollection
of
that.
B
D
I'm
getting
well
because
joe's
comment
so
I'll.
Let
him
take
the
floor.
Excuse
me,
I'm
sorry
yeah,
please.
I
said
it
was
joe's
comment,
but
I
believe
he
was
he
was.
Maybe
he
made
a
comment
that
was
affirming.
You
know
our
his
position
that
we
should
continue
on
with
with
some
sort
of
virtual
component
to
the
in
person
meetings
when
we
go
in
person,
but
I
just
just
for
clarification.
L
Joe
did
you
want
to
clear
that
up
at
all,
I
feel
like
it's
misleading,
I
kind
of
just
glanced
over
those
minutes,
so
I
didn't
really
see
it.
I
just
took
a
look
yeah.
The
comment
was
about
trying
to
make
sure
or
making
sure
that
we
were
able
to
have
some.
L
You
know
remote
aspect
of
the
meetings
once
they
do
go
in
person
just
from
you
know,
ability
for
more
people
to
participate
and
or
listen
to
recordings,
and
you
know
so
on
and
so
forth
and-
and
there
is
some
movement
in
that
direction-
that
that's
all
I'm
going
to
say.
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
B
So
with
that
note-
and
I
I
do
agree
with
this
point-
you
know
thank
you
for
michael
for
capturing
that
I
know
that
there
was
some
other
discussion
going
on
about
making
sure
that
we
can
have
greater
accessibility
for
our
meetings
to
other
folks.
You
know
the
recording
allows
folks
to
get
in
when
they
can't
meet
our
lifetime,
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
value
and
it
seems
like
there
is
some
movement
in
that
direction.
B
B
Okay,
let's
do
let's
get
a
vote
to
approve
those
minutes
with
the
noted
revision.
Let's
see
here,
randy.
C
F
B
Okay,
next.
B
Comment
received
notice
that
we
did
not
receive
any
public
comment
this
for
this
meeting.
Is
that
still
the
case
amy
just
to
confirm.
B
I
believe
that
is
the
case:
okay,
new
business.
Our
first
item
about
the
discussion
about
returning
to
in-person
meetings
in
august
jessica.
A
Real
quick,
it
looks
like
kim,
has
joined
us
and
she
has
raised
her
hand.
Did
you
have
a
comment
kim
foreign.
M
I'm
sure
if
I
may
thank
you
so
because
we
are
returning
back
to
in
person
and
I'm
not
able
to
take
that
full
time
off
of
work.
This
will
be
the
last
meeting
that
I'm
able
to
join
you
for
the
part
of
the
meeting.
For
some
time.
I
prefer
to
be
able
to
attend
this
meeting,
but
I'm
not
able
to
attend
at
this
time
of
day.
M
B
A
Okay,
well,
on
that
note,
I
just
wanted
to
give
folks
a
little
update
about
about
august.
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen
real
quick,
so
there
have
been
some
improvements
made.
I
know
I
recognize
that
probably
many
of
you
have
never
stepped
foot
in
our
meeting
room,
our
actual
meeting
room,
which
is
in
city
hall,
I'm
going
to
show
you
if
I
can
a
photo
so
there's
been
some
improvements
made.
That
I
think
will
be
very
welcome.
A
However,
you
know,
I
think
the
big
thing
that
we're
all
wanting
to
see
is
the
ability
to
have
these
meetings
continue
to
be
remote
or
able
to
be
attended
remotely
and
for
people
to
still
provide
public
comment,
live
and
so
on.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
you
can
see
my
screen
or
not,
can
you.
F
A
No
okay,
so
hopefully
it'll
pop
up
in
a
minute,
but
there
have
been
some
improvements
to
the
to
the
first
floor
conference
room,
and
that
includes
some
audio
visual
improvements
that
I
think
are
going
to
be
really
really
helpful
for
us
moving
forward
and
that
includes
four
new
large
screen
tvs,
they're
86
inch,
which
is
about,
let's
see
about
16
inches
taller
than
me
there.
A
There
are
four
of
these
that
have
been
put
up
on
the
wall,
so
there
will
be
you'll
be
able
to
view
them
from
from
any
direction
in
the
room.
A
There's
also
been
some
chromebooks
have
been
added
for
each
of
the
commissioners
or
committee
members
that
you
can
use
during
the
meeting,
so
you'll
be
able
to
see
things
on
your
screen
as
and
pull
up
any
documents
that
you
might
want
to
refer
to.
At
the
meeting
we've
had
some
sound
system
upgrades
as
well,
so
the
the
microphones
are
all
new.
A
There's
there's
the
ability
for
them
to
be
all
controlled
via
a
touch
panel,
and
so
we
can
a
staff
person
can
power
on
and
off
all
of
the
microphones
and
displays
via
a
touch
panel
and
control
the
volume
levels
on
the
microphones
and
such.
So
I
think
you
know,
I
think
those
are
really
welcome
improvements.
I
know
from
the
staff
perspective
they
are,
and
so
there's
there's
been
some
training.
That's
been
held
for
staff
to
be
able
to
work
all
of
that
stuff.
A
Oh
good
right,
okay,
yeah
and
I
and
I'm
guessing
that
there's
the
other
two
tv
screens
are
on
the
left
and
right
side
of
the
walls
in
there.
They
also
clean
the
carpets
and
painted.
So
that's
good
too.
Why.
F
A
A
Hopefully
that
soon
will
be
changed
and
people
will
be
allowed
to
call
in
just
like
they
have
been
for
council
meetings,
but
will
still
have
the
ability
to
receive
comments,
voicemail
email
and
I'm
assuming
potentially
also
on
public
input,
but
that's
another
one
that
I'm
not
quite
sure
about.
Okay,.
B
Well,
it
certainly
seems
like
we're
heading
in
that
direction.
I
do
feel
like
this
is
the
you
know
the
best
way
for
us
to
make
sure
that
everybody
who
wants
to
provide
some
input
can
provide
some
input.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
steps
forward.
A
I
had
some
comments
on
that
one
please.
So
I
did
not
hear
that
we're
going
to
maintain
remote
access
and
I
would
love
to
hear
an
update
on
ensuring
we
have
that
public
engagement
method.
A
So
my
understanding
is
that
that
has
not
been
put
in
place.
Yet
that
has
not
been
secured.
I
don't
exactly
know
or
or
understand
what
the
what
the
hang-up
is,
but
all
I
can
tell
you
is
that
I
am
not
expecting
to
have
that
in
place
for
the
august
meeting
and
that's
not
just
not
just
us.
That's
that's
every
every
board
commissioning
committee.
A
I
know
they're
working
on
it,
but
are.
A
A
She
isn't
like
him
not
to
be
able
to
join
us
at
all,
because
we
don't
have
remote
like
it
seems
like
a
big
barrier
to
public
engagement,
and
so
a
bunch
of
us
have
been
emailing
and
so
far
there's
about
15
people
from
across
seven
different
committees
or
commissions,
who
are
all
asking
for
maintaining
the
remote
so
we'll
be
I'm
in
conversation
with
dawa
right
now
about
that
and
we'll
be
sending
that
along
to
council.
So
I
just
want
to
share
with
you
as
our
teammate
on
the
staff
liaison.
Like
I
hear
the
progress.
A
I
know
it
takes
time
and
effort
and
we
want
to
play
our
role
in
polite
nudging
as
community
members
to
maintain
this
important
resource.
So
just
and
thanks
for
those
on
the
team
who
kind
of
signed
their
name
on
to
that
letter
and
if
anyone
else
wants
to
sign
their
name
onto
that
letter,
you
can
email
me.
F
G
I
I
love
this
whole
format
so
much
better.
I
find
it
much
better
easier
to
focus
and
be
able
to
get
up
and
stretch
my
legs
every
once
in
a
while,
but
I
mean
I
can
physically
and
timewise
attend
in
person,
but
I
much
prefer
the
zoom
meetings
I'll
just
throw
my
comment
in
sure.
I
D
A
A
However,
because
those
were
specifically
authorized
under
the
state
of
emergency,
the
governor's
state
of
emergency,
the
governor
at
this
moment
is
planning
to
list
a
state
of
emergency
on
july
30th
and
therefore
there's
not
a
legal
authorization
in
place
statute
wise
for
public
meetings
to
happen
virtually
it's.
I
think
this
is
a
classic
case
of
the
law
not
necessarily
being
up
to
date
with
the
reality
of
technology
and
and
the
need.
A
So
that's
that
is
part
of
what's
driving
us
to
go
back
to
in-person
meetings,
and
so
we
to
do
so,
though
we
are
still
not,
I
think,
from
a
technological
standpoint
ready
to
do
that
in
in
at
least
the
same
way
that
we
have
been
doing
it
over
the
past
year
and
so
it's
kind
of
a
two-pronged
issue.
I
think
I
think
there's.
A
Obviously,
we
all
recognize
that
there
are
huge
benefits
not
only
for
ourselves
but
for
the
public
as
well,
and
so
we're
we're
just
gonna
have
to
keep
working
towards
that
end
goal,
whether
or
not
we'll
will,
as
a
as
a
group
commission,
be
be
able
to
to
do
virtual
from
our
homes
or
wherever.
I
think
that
that's
probably
the
part
where
the
law
needs
to
be
re-looked
at
which
could
be
more
complicated.
A
M
I
think
you
said
it
exactly
right
this.
It
is
a
both
because
we
are
anticipating
that
the
emergency
mandate
will
be
our
emergency
status
will
be
lifted.
We
are
getting
ahead
of
that,
so
preparing
in
advance
for
august.
I
do
agree
that
the
technology
is
behind
our
regulation
or
the
technology
is
ahead
of
our
regulations.
The
regulations
behind,
but
that's
regarding,
I
understood,
as
voting
members,
have
to
be
in
person.
F
A
If
they
change
it,
I
was
just
gonna
say
if
they,
if
the
governor
decides
to
not
lift
it,
which
could
be,
you
know
something
that
happens,
we'll
of
course
communicate
with
you
guys
and
let
you
know,
but
for
now
our
august
meeting
would
be
in
person
in
city
hall,.
M
And
to
answer
maggie's
question
about
the
level
of
intent,
we
did
discuss
this
at
a
point
in
our
arpa
work
session
of
council
yesterday
at
2
30,
which
is
archived
on
the
city's
youtube
page.
B
Right
pretty
good.
We're
good
next
item
is
the
ftc
grant
opportunity
for
50
ashland
jessica.
A
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
guys
know
that
as
part
of
council's
consent
agenda
last
night,
they
authorized
us
as
staff
to
submit
a
grant
application
for
it's.
A
federal
transit
administration
grant
opportunity
that
popped
up
a
few
weeks
ago.
A
That
is
due
in
at
the
end
of
august,
and
the
grant
opportunity
is
one
that
allows
for
planning
technical
studies,
financial
planning,
community
engagement
and
it's
all
geared
towards
improving
transit
service
and
facilities
and
looking
at
how
we
can
address
a
number
of
different
issues
through
transit
service
and
facilities,
such
as
reducing
barriers
to
housing,
economic
mobility,
systemic
racism,
environmental
issues
and
climate
change.
A
So
you
know
a
lot
of
the
things
that
the
city
has
goals
and
objectives
related
to,
and
so,
when
we
saw
this
opportunity
pop
up,
we
thought
that,
given
that
we
just
purchased
50
ashland
avenue,
also
known
as
the
talbert
lot,
which
is
right
next
door
to
the
transit
center
and
didn't
really
have
a
funding
mechanism
in
place
to
go,
go
forward
with
a
planning
process.
For
that
parcel,
we
thought
well.
This
is
a
great
match
in
terms
of
a
grant
opportunity.
A
So
we
are
going
to
be
putting
this
this
grant
application
together
over
the
next
several
weeks.
When
I
say
we
it's
it's
really
a
team
from
different
departments,
including
transportation
planning
and
urban
design
and
and
community
and
economic
development,
and
we
will
be
asking
for
850
000
to
have
a
a
lot
of
we'll
do
a
lot
of
things
with
that.
But
it's
mostly
going
to
be
a
planning
process
that
will
have
a
ton
of
community
engagement
and
collaboration.
A
It
will
and
ultimately,
what
we
want
to
come
out
of
it
with
assume
is
a
is
a
concept
or
a
concept
potentially
including
site
plans
and
and
what
would
be
included
in
a
future
project.
So
we
know
that
it's
got
to
be
a
transit
center
expansion
or
brand
new
transit
center.
A
We
know
that
it
needs
to
include
affordable
housing.
So
how
do
we?
How
do
we
do
those
two
things?
What
other
uses
or
community
services
might
we
want
to
include?
When
I
say
we,
I
mean
the
community
and
the
input
that
we
receive
and
then
what
does
that
building
look
like
and
also
come
out
of
it
with
like
a
financial
plan
or
a
phasing
plan.
A
Basically,
everything
we
would
need
just
shy
of
like
a
full
design,
and
so
that
would
be
the
natural
next
step
for
this
parcel
and
this
project
anyways,
and
this
this
grant
opportunity
really
aligns
with
with
it,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
guys
know
that
we're
going
to
submit
an
application-
and
I
don't
know
you
know
how
long
it'll
take
to
find
out
if
we
get
it
or
not.
But
yeah
just
wanted
to
give
you
guys
the
heads
up.
B
Yeah,
that's
great
news.
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
an
accelerant
for
this
project
and
at
least
getting
some
of
the
more
detailed
conversations
happening
now,
which
I
think
will
get
us
to
closer
to
more
more
quickly.
Moving
towards
that
that
finish
line
for
this
project.
So
that's
that's
very
exciting
news.
A
Yeah
it'll
it'll
it'll
help
us
position
for
future
grants
as
well.
So
I
mean
it's,
you
know
it's
a
it's,
I'm
I'm
gonna
say
it's
it's!
It's
unlikely
that
we'll
get
it
just
because
it's
a
purely
competitive
grant.
I
mean,
I
think
we
have
all
of
the
great
things
going
for
us
that
could
make
us
an
attractive
applicant
to
the
fda,
but
the
they're
only
giving
away
they're
only
granting
16
million
dollars.
A
I
think
it
is
which
is
not
very
much
and
but
there
are
also
are
not
a
lot
of
areas
that
would
meet
the
qualifications
and-
and
so
you
know
I
I
don't-
I've
never
applied
for
this
grant
in
particular
before
so.
It's
a
little
bit
uncertain
like
what
our
chances
are,
but
I
would
say
that
there's
probably
going
to
be
competition,
and
so
I
can't
make
any
guarantees,
but
we're
definitely
going
to
try.
A
You
know
yeah,
so
one
of
one
of
the
things
that
we're
required
to
do
as
part
of
the
application
is,
if,
if
there's
an
ability
to
scale
our
request,
they
want
to
hear
what
that.
What
that
looks
like
so,
and
I
do
think
that
there
is
a
possibility
to
scale
our
requests.
There
are
things
that
we
could
probably
leave
out
of
the
scope
that
could
be
done
at
a
later
date
and
so
we'll
try
to
identify
where
it
would
be
most
appropriate
to
scale
it
back
if
they
had
to,
hopefully
they
wouldn't
have
to.
B
So
it's
you
know
good
to
hedge
our
bets
a
little
bit.
Oh
great
news!
Well,
good!
There!
Okay!
The
next
item
is
our
upcoming
retreat,
maggie
and
jessica
have
been
talking
about
that.
You
folks
wanna,
give
us
an
update.
A
Yeah
no
problem
there's
a
document
in
the
agenda
that
has
a
lot
of
words,
because
I
write
to
think
so.
Don't
feel
pressured
or
read
it
on
the
on
the
fly,
but
if
you
want
to
like
digest
it,
that
might
be
helpful.
A
Several
of
us,
with
leadership
from
our
chair
and
co-chair
dennis
and
randy,
have
been
really
thinking
about.
What's
the
point
of
a
retreat
in
the
first
place
like
what
do
we
want
to
get
out
of
this
and
really
clearly,
these
objectives
have
been
the
starting
place
for
any
of
the
thinking
that
I'm
going
to
share
today
and
that
starting
place
is
one
to
build
trust
and
cohesiveness
between
us
because
bill
you'll
learn.
Even
though
this
is
your
first
meeting,
you
are
not
alone.
A
Most
of
us
are
really
new,
so
this
committee
had
a
lot
of
turnover
in
the
last
several
months,
and
so,
in
order
for
us
to
really
go
deep
on
our
work,
we
really
need
to
connect
and
build
trust.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we
get
that
out
of
this
and
we
want
to
revisit
refresh
and
reinforce
policy
visions
that
have
already
been
established.
There's
a
temptation
with
committees
to
like
vision,
vision,
vision
but
like
we
already
have
a
lot
of
vision,
we
don't
need
to
start
from
scratch.
A
B
For
me,
I
don't
think
so
I
you
know
I
feel
like
initially.
Maybe
it
was
a
little
bit
thicker,
but
in
discussion
we've
decided
to
really
see
if
we
can
just
narrow
our
focus
a
little
bit
and
get
a
win
get
something
we
can
all
agree
on.
There's
some
kind
of
inherent
challenges
that
I've
learned
about
through
this
process
and
what
we're
looking
to
tackle.
B
So,
I
think,
there's
plenty
of
for
work
for
us
to
do,
but
just
making
sure
that
we
kind
of
have
a
pretty
strong
and
complete
idea
of
how
to
make
these
revisions
and
how
to
make
these
recommendations,
I
think,
is
really
the
direction
that
we
should
go
in.
So
I
I
really
like
it.
I
like
the
idea
that
there's
so
much
meat
around
this
topic
that
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
discussion.
B
I
anticipate
there
being
a
lot
of
discussion,
a
lot
of
ideas
just
because
we're
gonna
be
changing
things
that
maybe
haven't
been
changed
in
a
very
long
time,
and
so
I
think
it's
going
to
be
up
to
us
to
really
you
know
massage
this
output
to
ensure
that
we're
not
going
to
get
caught
off
guard
once
we
launch
something
out
of
our
group,
so
I
think
we're
kind
of
right
spot
on
with
it.
But
I'm
looking
forward
to
kind
of
the
group
working
together
to
get
there.
C
Awesome
it
kind
of
kind
of
real
quick
just
that
we,
you
know,
we
oftentimes
respond
to
things
that
are
brought
to
us,
and
so
we
vision
this
is
a
chance,
maybe
to
take
some
initiative
to
try
and
shape
some
of
the
multi-modal
community
that
we're
in.
So
you
know
it's
kind
of
like
not
a
traditional
retreat,
where
we
just
have
a
focus,
but
I
think
you
can
talk
a
minute
about
kind
of
an
ongoing
process,
and
so
it
kind
of
is
a
an
additional
thing
that
we
don't
normally
get
a
chance
to
do.
A
Awesome,
that's
the
perfect
segue
of
like
so
that's
where
we
started,
and
then
we
came
up
with
kind
of
this
idea
that
we
want
like
to
see
if
it
sticks
in
your
head
by
talking
about
it
to
date
with
y'all,
and
the
idea
is
like
one.
If
we
really
want
to
go
deep
on
the
unified
development
ordinance
and
looking
at
some
of
our
regulatory
space
one,
we
might
not
be
the
perfect
people
to
do
that.
Right.
A
I
forget
whose
other
communities
that
we've
been
talking
about,
but
those
are
the
two
that
jump
out
first,
the
point
being
what
if,
instead
of
doing
a
siloed
retreat
of
us,
we
looked
at
more
of
a
learning
series
and
a
discussion
series
that
was
collaborative
across
committees
or
conditions,
and
so
that
idea,
I
think,
jessica.
I'm
going
to
give
you
credit
for
that
idea.
Although
joe,
I
think
it's
been
bubbling
through
a
lot
of
us
by
collaborating
together
and
the
idea
is
okay.
A
Us
have
some
focus,
because
the
udo
is
like
a
5
million
page
book
right
and
kind
of
said
well,
there's
two
specific
places
that
energy
like
need
is
coming
down
the
pipe
and
those
two
places
are
one
about
the
future
of
public
space
downtown,
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
temporary
stuff
that
happened
for
the
pandemic,
like
think
of
parklet
or
sink
all
the
extra
tables
for
restaurants,
like
all
that
was
kind
of
temporary
programming
to
support
pandemic
social
distance
needs,
but
like
what's
going
to
happen
to
it,
is
it
going
away?
A
A
The
other
place
that
staff
identified,
which
might
touch
a
little
bit
more
of
where
this
committee
has
been
talking
about,
is
connectivity
through
sidewalks
in
the
suburban
ring
and
when
I
say
suburban,
we
basically
just
mean
not
bow
down,
because
they're
regulated
very
differently.
So
when
a
big
development
comes,
are
they
required
to
put
a
new
sidewalks
or
bicycle
infrastructure.
F
A
A
So,
in
summary,
I'm
gonna
conclude
what
I'm
saying
and
then
pitch
it
back
to
you
guys
as
a
question,
because
we
aren't
coming
today
saying
this:
is
a
done
deal
get
on
board.
We're
saying
like
what
do
you
think
this
is
what
we're
hatching
is
very
there
there
and
the
question
to
y'all
is
twofold:
what
do
you
think
about
the
idea
of
approaching
more
of
a
series
as
opposed
to
three
hours
and
done
and
have
a
series
that
collaborates
with
other
commissioners
so
that
we
can
kind
of
intersect
our
ideas
and
two?
A
If
we
want
to
do
that,
there's
these
ideas
of
downtown
public
space,
which
is
parklet,
which
is
benches,
which
is
sidewalks,
which
is
parking,
and
then
this
other
idea
of
kind
of
sidewalk
connectivity
through
development
outside
of
downtown
and
do
either
of
those
resonate
with
you.
If
something
you
actually
want
to
roll
up
your
sleeves
on,
or
is
that
a
place
where
you
would
want
to
put
your
volunteer
time
on?
A
So
those
are
the
two
questions
I'll
ask
you
in
america
made
on
collaborations
seem
like
a
good
idea,
even
if
it
might
be
hard
and
those
topics
and
then
also
are
there
any
clarifying
questions,
because
I
know
I
might
have
thrown
out
a
bit
of
jargon.
So
maybe
we
could
do
some
clarifying
questions
and
then
maybe
just
go
around
robin
on
responding
to
those
two
questions.
F
G
I've
been
on
the
committee
for
a
couple
of
years,
and
it's
taken
me
a
long
time
to
find
all
the
resources
that
are
available.
As
maggie
said,
we've
got
visions.
We
got
lots
of
visions.
G
G
G
Maybe
a
reading
list
would
be
helpful
so
that
we
would
have
a
sort
of
a
common
based
knowledge
that
we're
all
working
off
of
and
maybe
because
I
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
history
that
I'm
not
even
aware
of,
and
we
have
lost
a
lot
of
our
people
with
those
long
memories.
G
Maybe
somebody
else
maybe
lucy
with
the
greenway
or
you
could
dump
this
in
your
lap.
Maybe
there's
somebody
else.
You
could
bring
that
in.
A
B
I
know
that
personally,
I
have
actually
started
creating
one
just
on
my
own
computer,
because
there
were
things
that
I
know
at
one
point
I
saw
and
I
went
to
find
them
again
and
I
couldn't
find
them,
and
so
I
just
started
downloading
these
documents
so
having
that
as
a
resource
for
us,
it
might
not
be
the
most
efficient,
maybe
in
the
structure
of
the
city,
but
at
least
for
us
we
can
go
and
quickly
find
these
things,
because
when
you,
when
you,
you
know,
you
click
into
one
of
these
documents,
it's
a
60,
70
page
document.
B
So
even
once
you
get
in
there,
you
got
to
figure
out
where
you're
going.
So
I
I
completely
agree
with
you
and
I
think,
there's
a
couple
that
I
can
certainly
add
that
I've
had
I've
pulled
out.
We
have
a
couple
of
links
at
the
bottom
of
our
agenda
every
month,
but
I
think
having
a
more
complete
list
is
a
great
idea,
because
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
when
we
bounce
between
these
different
topics.
B
We
can
click
in
and
get
some
really
hard
facts
and
some
history
to
frame
the
conversation
that
we're
gonna
take
on
and
certainly
in
anticipation
of
this
group.
One
of
the
things
that
we
did
talk
about
is
prepping
by
having
a
handful,
maybe
not
too
many
to
overwhelm
everyone,
but
maybe
having
a
handful
of
documents
that
say
when
we
get
to
these
meetings.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
kind
of
very
familiar
with
these
four
or
five
documents,
because
they
are
really
germane
to
the
issues
that
we're
going
to
be
addressing.
G
Some
of
these-
and
I
still
haven't,
walked
all
the
greenways.
That's
on
my
list
to
do
just
to
be
have
that
in
my
head.
B
Yeah,
I
agree
with
you
just
these
site
visits
really
gives
you
when
you're
walking
through
the
space,
you
can
understand
how
you
would
use
the
space
and
then
you
can
also
see
how
other
people
are
using
it
as
well.
So
I
think
that
gives
us
a
great
deal
of
context.
L
Just
to
get
back
to
the
point
that
you
made
patricia,
I
know
maggie
just
popped,
a
couple
of
things
on
there
that
she
had
on
that
retreat
that
planning
draft
the
comp
plan,
the
presentation
even
itself
is-
is
pretty
deep,
but
it's
better
than
looking
at
the.
I
don't
know
how
many
pages
of
the
actual
comp
plan,
at
least
it
digests
it
some.
L
I
know
that
have
been
showing
up
at
the
end
of
the
every
month's
agenda.
I
mean.
I
definitely
think
that
that,
while
the
asheville
emotion
plan
is
fairly
old,
I
mean
most
of
those
at
the
end
of
the
agenda
are
pretty
like
good
basic
starters.
At
least
you
know
for
that.
L
I
I
wanted
to
just
comment
so
maggie,
and
I
did
talk
some
about
you
know
these
intersections,
like
with
the
downtown
peace
and
sidewalks
and
and
thinking
about
sidewalks
and
the
udo
and
places
that
aren't
in
downtown
planning
and
zoning
has
also
undergone
a
lot
of
change.
As
far
as
new
people,
and
in
fact,
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
I
will
be
the
only
person
who
has
more
than
a
year
of
experience
on
planning
and
zoning.
L
So
it's
there
is
a
lot
of
of
change
in
you
know
these
volunteer
groups,
so
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
have
from
the
planning
and
zoning
even
people
the
new
people
coming
in
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
some
of
these
things
that
that
tr,
that
always
come
up
when
we're
looking
at
projects
but
get
it
from
this
transit
specific
lens
as
well.
L
L
We
can,
I
think,
it's
just
you
know
it's
gonna,
be
one
of
those.
Having
done
trying
to
think
I
know
randy
and
kenny
were
there
at
the
2019
retreat,
I
think,
and
was
michael.
I
think
michael
was
and
I'm
trying
to
remember.
We
had
one
in
mmtc:
did
we
have
a
2018
jessica
anyway,
just
having
been
through
at
least
one
or
two
with
multimodal?
We
have
not
yet
done
one
a
real
retreat
with
planning
and
zoning,
but
I
think
it's
it's
kind
of
what
maggie
was
saying.
It
needs
to
be
specific
things.
L
F
L
If
it
starts
getting
into
the
udl
we're
going
to
take
section
x
and
that's
it
and
there's
not
this
like
there's
light,
how
does
it
affect
other
things,
but
it
can't
be
30
000
feet.
I
think
it's
gonna
have
to
be
like
10
feet
really
get
a
little
weedy,
even
though
that
may
be
too
much.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
the
way
to
get
make
it
effective
and
get
something
out
of
it
agreed
yeah.
A
And
just
to
add
on
that,
if
I
may,
I
also,
I
completely
agree
because
I
think
part
of
what
I
heard
really
strongly
for
you.
Dentistry
leadership
is
like
we
want
to
guide
people
who
want
impact,
we
want
to
move
forward,
and
so
what
joe's
saying
on
something
really
precise
and
focused
is
a
means
to
do
that.
I
think
the
other
thing
that's
going
to
be
important
to
your
question.
Dennis
was,
like
you
didn't
say
it.
This
way
that
one
could
extrapolate
like
is
this?
Will
it
work
like?
A
Will
we
get
anywhere,
and
I
think
what's
important
for
us
to
think
about
is
like
well,
it
depends
on
what
impact
is
the
reality
of
a
three
hour
or
six
hour.
Cross
commission
meeting
may
not
be
fully
revised,
perfect,
beautiful
language
on
a
platter
to
say,
council
rubber
stamps.
I
don't
think
that
is
realistic.
A
I
think
that
starting
the
collaborative
relationship
identifying
where
we
have
places
of
similar
principles
or
principles
or
similar
perspectives
and
being
like
we
need
to
research.
This
part
of
the
17
paragraphs
like
that,
I
think,
would
be
success,
so
I
I
bet
that
it'll
be
the
start
of
us
testing
out
interest
mission,
collaboration
and,
quite
frankly
that
to
me
would
be
really
successful
because
we
aren't
doing
it.
Otherwise
we're
relying
on
staff
to
do
that,
and
it's
a
lot.
You
already
are
doing
a
lot
so
I'll
stop.
A
So,
just
just
to
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
of
what
what
I
think
you'll
be
tasked
with
and
is,
and
of
course
this
isn't
all
fully
formed
yet,
but
you
know
I
don't
think
I
think
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
present
to
you
guys
kind
of
the
current
current
policies,
but
highlight
some
of
the
high
high
level
issues
that
we're
having
recurring
issues,
whether
it's
code
related
or
whether
it's
more
geared
towards
you
know
some
of
these
programs
that
we
implemented
in
covid
and
we'd
like
to
continue
in
some
form
or
fashion,
we're
gonna,
say:
here's
the
things
that
we
keep
coming
across,
that
we
have
problems
with
or
even
questions
about
from
a
staff
level.
A
A
lot
of
them
are
policy
kinds
of
questions
and
we're
going
to
pose,
pose
discussion,
questions
to
you
guys
to
get
your
feedback
that
will
then
inform
how
we
move
forward,
whether
it's
changing
a
standard
or
a
policy
or
whatnot.
So
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
like
everybody's
looking
at
code,
section,
17
and
and
like
wordsmithing
it
and
stuff,
like
that,
it's
really
getting
a
sense
of
what.
A
What
the
groups
think
is
the
right
directions
head
in
just
as
an
example
when
it
comes
to
parklets,
I
I
call
them
streeteries,
actually,
because
most
of
our
parklets
right
now
are
our
restaurant
spaces.
A
A
Should
there
be
a
limit
to
the
number
of
straiteries
that
we
have?
Should
there
be
certain
places
that
we
have
shouldn't
have
them?
Should
there
be
a
limit
on
the
number
on
particular
streets,
those
kinds
of
kinds
of
bigger
questions
that
even
amongst
staff
we
kind
of
have
disagreements
over?
So
you
know
same
with
sidewalk
encroachments,
there's,
there's
things
that
pop
up
all
the
time
related
to
policy
decisions
on
those
things.
B
Definitely
randy.
F
C
You
know
to
get
things
done
to
do
it
just
by
saying
there
yeah,
you
know,
get
feedback
from
a
staff
in
terms
of
what
they
need
help
with,
but
also
for
us
to
do
that
from
our
perspective
about
multiple
transportation
commissions,
because
if
we
don't
keep
that
in
mind
as
being
our
overarching
thing,
then
we
could
be
any
random
group
of
citizens
that
get
together
and
respond
to
things.
So
I
think
it'll
be
important
for
us
each
meeting
to
say
hey.
C
You
know,
let's
make
sure
that
we're
viewing
this
from
this
point
of
view,
because
I
think
we're
all
involved
with
other
things
too,
and
so
we
can
have
those
other
points
of
view
as
well.
But
the
reason
why
we're
being
asked
for
advice
in
this
because
of
our
multi-mobile
transportation
perspective,
so
so
there's
that
overarching
high-level
context
in
which
we're
asking
or
answering
very
specific
questions.
D
Hey
thanks
yeah,
just
to
be
clear.
We've
mentioned
parklets
a
number
of
times
in
this
conversation.
Are
we
using
that
in
a
general
sense,
as
inclusive
of
the
the
shared
streets,
pedestrian
priority
zones,
or
are
we
just
talking
about
parklets,
and
I
asked
because
I
just
want
to
make
sure
if
we
do
go
to
retreat,
then
we're
talking
about
that
whole
broad
concept
and
not
just
portlets.
A
Well,
that's
a
good
question,
so
I
I
bring
up
parklets
and
strayeries,
because
it's
a
thing
that's
happening
now
and
and
we
need
to
figure
out
what
to
do
with
it.
A
So
you
know
in
general,
if
I
had
to
say
what
is
the
most
important
thing
for
the
for
us
to
focus
on
I'd
probably
say
it
would
be
sidewalk
udl
revision,
but
because
we
have
these
ongoing,
like
pilot
programs,
that
we
launched
that
haven't
been
formalized
that
that
sort
of
necessitates
us
maybe
moving
that
to
a
higher
priority
in
terms
of
figuring
out
what
we're
going
to
do
with
it,
because
it's
active
ongoing
and
we
don't
want
to.
A
I
think
I
think
the
consensus
is
that
we
don't
want
it
to
go
away
completely
so
expanding
beyond
that
to
like
shared
streets
and
things.
I
think
there
is
potential
to
have
those
conversations,
because
overall
we
do
need
to
have
a
public
realm
discussion.
So
that's
part
of
that
discussion
and.
D
C
F
A
F
B
Yeah,
I
agree,
I
guess
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
about
is.
If
we're
going
to
ask
another
group
to
join
us
for
some
time,
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
being
really
respectful
of
their
time
and
we
come
with
a
tight
plan
that
is
relevant
to
the
challenges
that
they're
facing
and
that
they
could
provide
some
good
information
to
us.
So
together,
as
two
groups
coming
together,
we
can
really
create
something.
That's
going
on
so
create
some
output.
B
That's
going
to
be
effective,
and
so
you
know
is:
is
this
space
parklets
and
the
shared
streets
the
best
space
for
this
and
this
particular
application,
or
is
it
more
the
the
you
know
the
code
conversations
or
you
know,
sidewalk
issues?
You
know
all
those
things.
I
think
I
guess
what
I
want
to
make
sure
I
I'm
less
passionate
about
what
issue
we
we
choose
to
take
in
this
group
and
I'm
more
passionate
about
making
sure
that
number
one
we
can
get
an
output.
B
That's
going
to
be
productive
and
number
two
that
we're
really
using
well
at
the
time
for
everyone.
That's
going
to
be
involved,
so
we're
going
to
invite
somebody
in
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
just
really
being
as
respectful
as
possible
and
it's
something
that
they
too
are
challenged
with
so,
and
I
think
joe
can,
you
know
in
this
instance
joe,
can
provide
a
lot
of
context.
For
you
know,
does
this
make
sense,
or
is
this
kind
of
more
peripheral
issue.
L
I'm
not
going
to
speak
for
the
downtown
commission.
Guillermo
rodriguez,
who's
on
pnz
is
on
downtown
commission
and
I've
had
you
know
some
conversations
with
him
about
parklets,
so
perhaps
I'm
speaking
a
little
bit
from
downtown
commission,
I
think
the
downtown
commission
would
be
more.
They
would
be
the
ones
to
collaborate
with
on
parklets
shared
streets
that
downtown
you
know
specific
things
as
far
as
you
know,
the
the
sidewalks
in
general
outside
of
downtown.
L
That
certainly
is
a
planning
and
zoning,
but
you
know
there
again:
there
are
some
shared
spaces
that
are
also
outside
of
downtown.
So
you
know
I
and
I
don't
know
jessica
exactly
where
that
shared
space
is.
I
don't
think
there
is
a
division
of
if
it's
outside
of
downtown
or
inside
of
downtown,
or
you
can't.
L
F
L
A
L
L
A
And
so
yeah
we're
really
trying
to
strike
a
balance
of
focus,
focusing
on
some
of
the
bigger
repetitive
things
that
that
come
across
our
desk
daily
weekly
that
have
a
lasting
impact
as
well,
especially
when
it
comes
to
sidewalks
and
some
of
the
required
things
that
we
require
or
not.
They
have
an
impact
that
lasts
for
generations
right.
So
even
those
small
lines
in
the
code
can
have
a
huge,
a
huge
impact
overall
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
policy
discussions
to
be
had.
B
A
What
y'all
are
bringing
up
makes
me
think
and
joe,
I
might
even
look
to
you
to
kind
of
ask
your
opinion
too,
is
like
we've
chatted,
but
like
should
we
ask
to
have
us
on
a
png
agenda
to
like
pitch
this
idea
and
add
the
list
or
get
their
feedback
and
like
is
that
something
you
would
want
to
carry
from
nnpc
or
we
could
collaborate
and
I
could
help
or
because
I
think
I
think
that
is
the
next
step
right
like
the
first
step
was
like.
A
Do
we
like
this
and
I'm
not
hearing
anyone
be
like
this
is
a
bad
idea,
and
so,
if
we
are
into
it,
then
checking
in
with
the
other
commissions,
and
we
should
do
that
and
that's
the
question.
I'd
see
up.
L
Yeah
certainly,
and
I've
broached
at
least
the
subject
with
shannon
tuck
in
playing
a
department
who's,
essentially
the
one
who
you
know,
directs
and
coordinates
the
planning
and
zoning
meetings.
L
I
approach
the
subject
with
her
about
it
and
certainly
will
be
having
conversation
in
fact
that
we
at
next
week's
meeting
at
our
pre-meeting,
I
was
going
to
plan
on
bringing
that
up
with
everybody
just
to
be
like
hey
here's,
you
know
kind
of
what
we're
talking
about
and
again
it's
so
you
know
what
patricia
mentioned
a
minute
ago
about
there's
so
much
information
out
there.
I'm
hearing
from
the
two
well,
four
new
members
that
are
on
planning
and
zoning
already
like.
Where
do
we
start
so
again?
B
Excellent,
that's
that's
great
great
information.
Maggie!
Do
you
like
so
the
way
that
this
is
kind
of
coming
together
in
my
head
is
I'm
seeing?
Maybe
there
are
two
two
different
groups
that
we
have
or
two
you
know?
Maybe
it's
not
really
a
retreat.
It's
just
more
of
a.
B
I
guess
it
doesn't
retreat
with
these
with
these
two
groups
and
then
we
can
have
two
sets
of
output,
so
one
would
be
kind
of
you
know,
taking
care
of
the
issue
or
addressing
the
issue
that
we
have
downtown
and
the
interesting
issue
that
we
have
maybe
throughout
the
city,
and
I
really
like
that
idea
now
that
I
think
of
it.
That
way,
I
feel
like
it
can
work.
Well,
so
is
that
kind
of
you
know
where
you
feel
like
we're
heading.
A
Let
that
one
chill
you
know
like
so
I
guess
my
question
to
y'all
is:
do
we
have
the
interest
in
momentum
of
having
kind
of
two
tracks,
because
you're
right
one
would
be
downtown
commission
sidewalk,
shared
street
that
stuff
and
another
co-collaborative
meeting
would
be
like
planning
and
zoning
and
sidewalks
in
the
udo
and
so
from
this
group?
Maybe
everyone
could
put
something
in
the
chat
or
we
could
all
go
around
like
do
you
want
to
spend
your
time
on
both
those
topics?
A
If
not,
we
could
whittle
this
down
and
just
have
a
more
focused
track
to
take
one
one
of
the
problems
and
I'm
up
for
both.
But
but
if
I
had
to
pick,
I
might
be
more
interested
in
the
sidewalks
in
the
suburban
ring,
because
I
also
think
there's
a
lot
of
momentum
around
the
downtown
sidewalk
stuff,
but
but
I'm
up
to
play
ball
on
both
because
I
think
we
could
do
good
things.
So
that's
kind
of
my
kickoff
of
this
round.
A
B
J
Thanks,
I
am
enthusiastically
on
board
for
addressing
both
issues.
I
like
that
they're
sort
of
a
common
theme
for
both
of
them,
but
they're
kind
of
looking
at
two
fairly
different.
I
think
environments
like
I
live
in
west
asheville.
J
I
don't
go
downtown
because
of
a
lot
of
issues
or
overcrowding,
or
you
know
this
that
or
the
other
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
a
lot
of
the
time,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
important
things
to
address
in
terms
of
connectivity
and
you
know
being
mindful
of
ada
requirements
and
getting
people
to
be
on
foot
and
on
bike
rather
than
drive
downtown.
J
So
I
see
that
as
something
that's
really
important,
but
I
also
see
just
with
like
the
continued
proliferation
of
development
and
the
the
growth
that
the
city,
but
also
like
the
metro
region
is
experiencing
on
a
whole.
I
would
love
to
sort
of
address
the
sidewalk
connectivity
issue
too,
and
I
think
that's
a
really
hot
topic
so
and
just
to
echo
what
what
michael
said.
I
think
that
you
know,
with
with
sidewalks
in
the
suburban
ring
in
the
outer
edges
of
town
you're
able
to
actually
connect
people
into
downtown.
F
I
So
just
a
couple
reactions:
first,
the
original
question
was
do
we?
Are
we
good
with
the
idea
of
the
series?
Maggie
was
your
one
of
your
questions
and
I'm
all
into
that.
I
can't
imagine
doing
anything
successfully
without
it
being
a
series
and
the
other
just
reaction.
Is
it
my,
as
I
heard
these
ideas,
I'm
not
in
a
position
where
I've
got
a
priority
of
ideas.
I
don't
have
a.
I.
I
But
I
know
there
are
many
so,
as
I
think
about
the
context
of
this
idea
of
having
retreats
and
getting
together
and
so
forth
the
I
love
the
fact
that
the
main
point
is
to
get
trust
amongst
each
other,
and
so
we
can
work
collegially
as
a
group,
and
so
I
sense
from
that
process
topics
will
come
up
and
my
sense
is
these
are
the
first
two
ideas
that
have
happened
right
and
I
would
assume
that
there
are
going
to
be
many
other
ideas
that
we're
going
to
want
to
study
together
that
so
these
are
just
the
first
of
two
of
many.
I
Is
that
a
proper
interpretation
of
this
conversation,
because
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
coming
from
I
I
could
see
it
almost
endless
and
and
I'm
perfectly
fine
with
those
two
ideas
they're
as
good
as
any
in
my
mind,
but
I
don't
know.
I
just
want
to
share
that
reaction,
because
it
seemed
like
we
were
all
sudden
starting
to
land
on
two
ideas
where,
in
my
mind,
there's
a
whole
lot
more
than
just
two
ideas
we
have
to
deal
with.
Is
that
I'll
pause
and
get
some
reactions.
A
Yeah
that
makes
sense
agreed.
I
mean
what
I
would
say
is.
I
think
these
ideas
have
been
snowballing
amongst
this
new
group
of
committees
through
the
spring,
this
like
transportation
and
development,
and
so
I
think
that's
why
we're
kind
of
seizing
the
opportunity
of
a
specific
thing.
A
But
I
think
your
point
is
generally
there
of
like
we
want
to
focus
those
retreat
times
so
that
we
can
get
some
progress,
but
I
think
that
naturally
other
ideas
will
come
up
and
we'll
kind
of
be
creating
a
collaborative
work
plan
where
it's
like
great
after
we
totally
nail
it
with
this
project
and
they
move
on
we'll
go
to
these
in
these,
and
I
think
that
we
just
need
to
be
doing
some
good
record.
A
Keeping
with
that-
and
I
just
appreciate
you
like,
like
splashing
glitter
on
the
relationship
building
stuff,
so
that
is
like
you
see
my
inner
camp
counselor
coming
out,
but
like
it
comes
out
for
a
reason.
My
work
professionally
is
collaboration
with
nonprofits
and
foundations,
and
I've
seen
attempts
without
trust
and
intimacy
and
attempts
with-
and
it's
always
always
always
one
million
times
more
successful.
When
folks
are
really
candid
and
trusting
so
excited
that
you
that
that
resonates
with
you,
joe.
L
One
thing-
and
I
hadn't
mentioned
it-
and
it's
just
kind
of
gelling
in
my
mind
now,
because
I
I
agree
with
bill.
You
know
this
is
here.
These
are
two
topics.
There's
the
list
is
endless
frankly,
and
you
know
there
hasn't
really
been
a
lot
of
cross
commission
committee
collaboration.
L
Necessarily
you
know
I
I'm
trying
to
think
of
other
committees
like
you
know
this.
This
commission
has
anna
and
myself
from
other
committees
that
are
on
it.
You
know,
planning
and
zoning
doesn't
necessarily
have
somebody
that
sits
from
someone
else
affordable.
M
E
L
F
L
The
standpoint
of
getting
something
done
like
it's
an
hour
and
a
half
like
there
is
a
it's:
it's
not
even
a
half
a
day.
It's
like
we're
sitting
down,
hey
15
minutes
of
kind
of
finding
out
who
people
are,
and
then
it's
diving
into
something,
because
the
idea
is
that
these
could
be
a
couple
times
a
year
like.
L
L
A
A
Have
this
these
cross
conversations,
I
think
a
joint
workshop
or
something
like
that
is
probably
a
more
accurate
description
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
whether
it's
an
hour
or
an
hour
and
a
half
or
two
or
whatever
we
will
we'll
figure
that
out,
because
yeah
too
long
is
too
long,
especially
especially
these
days.
A
If
we're
doing,
I
guess
we
won't
be
doing
it
remotely,
but
you
know
me.
The
only
thing
I
I
would
say
is
that
it'll
be
a
little
difficult
potentially
to
balance
the
quote-unquote
normal
meeting
information
that
we
do
like
like
we're
doing
now
and
this
so
that
that
there
might
need
to
be
like
a
sacrifice
on
having
a
meeting
where
I
present
you
guys
information.
A
Maybe
I
give
you
like
a
monthly
update
and
that's
there's
like
30
minutes
in
the
beginning
of
a
joint
work
session,
where
we
go
over
agenda
type
items
so
that'll
be
something
that
I
need
to
think
about
is
how
to
balance
the
regular
stuff
with
the
special
workshop
and
not
make
you
guys
do
like
two
meetings
a
month
or
something
like
that,
because
I
don't
want
to
do
that.
B
Agreed
kenny.
E
You
know.
I
think,
when
I
think
we
should
be
calling
on
something
other
than
retreats,
and
I
think
that
the
focus
of
the
retreat
should
be
identifying
these
topics
that
we
want
to
dive
into
more
deeply,
and
could
it
be
that
we
just
allocate
time
during
our
regular
meetings
for
specific
topics.
So
you
know
map
it
out
over
the
years
so
that
okay
october's
meeting
we're
really
going
to
be
focusing
on
the
parklet
issue,
and
then
we
have
that
full
meeting
time
just
to
talk
about
it.
E
Invite
planning
and
zoning
members
to
our
meeting,
not
in
an
official
capacity,
but
just
to
be
there.
Knowing
that
it's
the
core
of
the
agenda
for
that
meeting
and,
like
jessica,
said,
she
can
kind
of
run
through
the
other
topics
that
need
to
to
get
talked
about.
You
know
as
they
develop,
but
the
focus
of
that
meeting
is
two
hours
to
talk
about
a
specific
piece
that
we
identified
in
our
retreat.
E
I
think
that
makes
sense
to
me
because
then
you're
right,
you
don't
want
to
have
to
ask
people
to
come
to
more
and
more
meetings
and
trying
to
get
a
quorum
with
us
and
planning
board,
and
it
seems
like
if
we
can
just
even
extend
our
meeting
by
half
an
hour
or
an
hour
and
then
really
focus
on
one
topic.
I
think
that
might
be
a
good
way
to
do
it
and
not
call
it
a
retreat.
B
Yeah,
I
can
see
a
couple
of
couple
of.
B
Have
come
up
just
in
the
discussion
is,
you
know.
D
B
Think
to
bill's
point
I
feel
like
these.
You
know
our
time
together
is
going
to
spit
out
other
ideas
and
we
they
they're,
not
venue
specific
ideas.
We
can
incorporate
those
to
kenny's
point
into
our
meetings
going
forward
and
we
have
this
kind
of
list
of
you
know,
items
on
the
that
are
in
the
in
the
future
and
we
can
add
to
that
as
these
other
things
come
up,
but
I
I
like
the
idea
of
us
having
a
dedicated
time
and
tackling
these
two
issues.
B
I
I
think
these
two
issues
are
important.
You
know
we
kind
of
hinted
around
a
little
bit
when
you're
choosing
between
the
two,
but
I
see
the
parklets
and
the
downtown
stuff
is
having
a
great
deal
more
visibility,
but
I
see
the
the
neighborhood
connection
as
being
much
more
important.
B
You
know
to
give
access
to
give
safe
accesses
to
these
other
areas.
As
we
build
this
network
of
greenways,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
can
get
to
them
safely
without
having
to
put
their
bike
in
their
car
or
put
it
on
a
bus
and
get
to
the
greenway.
I
think
you
should
be
able
to
enjoy
that
greenway
by
getting
your
bike
there
or
whatever
it
might
be.
So
I
you
know,
I
that's
kind
of
my
fault
between
the
two
pieces.
B
My
inclination
is
to
have
some
type
of
event.
I
like
the
idea
of
setting
a
very
specific
timeline,
and
I
think
it'll
accomplish
some
of
the
issues.
You
know.
One
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
very
early
on
magnetic
was
this
kind
of
the
bringing
together
of
the
group,
and
I
think,
that's
going
to
naturally
happen
if
we
have
something
that
we
can
really
sink
our
teeth
into
and
feel
like,
we
can
get
a
wind
out
of
so
I'm
still
kind
of
leaning
toward.
B
Maybe
you
know
trying
it
at
least
to
have
some
type
of
event,
that's
separate
from
our
meetings,
so
we
can
get
together
with
or
without
another
group
you
know,
I'm
still,
I
think
I'm
deferring
to
whatever
the
group
thinks
is
the
best
idea,
but
without
you
know,
pnc
or
the
downtown
group
to
tackle
one
of
these
things,
so
I'm
kind
of
interested
in
hearing
other
folks
ideas.
That
way,
do
you
feel
like
we
can
get
that
done
or
do
you
feel
like
it's
we're
creating
too
many.
B
B
A
I'll
I'll
just
jump
in
and
say
I
think
this
is
jessica.
I
think
perhaps
what,
if
like
like
in
the
outline
that
maggie's
proposed,
we
have
our
september
meeting
and
maybe
it's
just
the
normal
links,
and
we
have
it
be
more
of
a
traditional
retreat
kind
of
getting
to
know
you.
What
are
our
high
level
goals
and
things
that
we
want
to
focus
on
for
the
next
year?
A
A
Meeting
joint
session
on
topic,
a
which
I
think
it
would
be
the
downtown
public
space
stuff
and
then
perhaps
it's
the
november
december
meeting
that
we
have
topic
b,
but
our
september,
we
could
have
like
many
overviews
of
plans
potentially
getting
to
know
you
retreat
type-y
stuff,
maybe
that's
two
hours.
Maybe
it's
three
hours,
I'm
not
sure.
A
I'll
jump
in
real
quick,
because
I
like
doing
that-
and
I
I
like
that
idea
because
it
really
does
build
off
of
what
you
were
saying
bill
which
wasn't
sinking
in
fully
until
kenny.
You
were
explaining
what
you
were
thinking
of
like
what
I'm
hearing
now
that
I
wasn't
a
minute
ago
is
like
we
have
these
two
ideas:
to
go
deep:
that
staff
largely
help
the
surface
based
on
things
we've
talked
about
in
the
past.
A
I
Bill,
I
think,
lacking
a
separate.
F
I
I
It
can
build
trust
if
we
have
a
special
event
or
a
special
topic.
We've
got
a
focus
area.
It
all
makes
sense.
I
think
if
we
try
to
rope
all
this
into
regular
committee
meetings
and
put
it
at
the
end
or
outline
it
or
we'll
always
have
topics
in
meetings
right.
The
topics
always
exist
in
meetings.
I
E
Yeah
and
maggie,
I
I
agree
with
bill.
I
think
that
you
know
the
the
focus
of
the
regular
meeting
is
to
make
decisions
about
things.
So
having
the
background
of
well,
we
all
sat
in
the
room
for
six
hours
with
the
planning,
and
you
know
zoning
board
to
kind
of
hash
it
out
and
figure
out
what
we
think
and
look
at
the
materials
and
kind
of
process
it
by
the
time
we
get
to
our
regular
meeting.
E
We
can
have
action
steps,
we
can
have
motions,
we
can
move
forward
on
things
and
push
things
in
the
direction
we
want
to
take
them.
So
I
agree.
I
think
it
would
be
cool
to
have
a
get
to
know
you
icebreaker,
retreat
solidify
our
relationship
with
each
other
and
come
up
with
a
list
of
topics
that
make
sense,
including
these
two,
and
I
do
think
that
the
the
downtown
parklets
is
more
pressing,
because
I
think
the
city
is
going
to
be
kind
of.
E
You
know
de-allow
disallowing,
those
in
the
near
term,
so
we
need
to
come
up
with
some
ideas
on
it,
but
anyway
yeah.
I
agree,
you
know
having
these
workshops
with.
You
know
what,
whatever
other
groups
we
need
to
invite,
and
I
don't
know
if
they're
official
meetings
or
just
kind
of
you
know
hosted
by
the
the
multimodal
commission
to
kind
of
talk
about
it.
But
I
think
I
think
that's
a
good
idea.
B
Joe,
I
think
you've
kind
of
bounced
around
a
little
bit.
G
I
like
the
the
meet
and
greet
part
of
it
because
I
don't
feel
like.
I
know
you
guys,
I
don't
know
who's
married.
I
don't
know
who
has
kids,
I
don't
know
who's
retired,
I
don't
know
who's
a
landscape
architect
like
me
or
somebody
where
your
backgrounds
are
and
I've
been
on
the
committee
for
two
years.
I
feel
like
adult.
G
I
don't
know
you
guys
and
I
would
think
that
that
would
be
more
the
point
of
the
retreat
and
that
we
all
do
our
homework
on
what
has
come
before
so
that
we
all
have
a
like.
I've
just
been
scrolling
through
some
of
the
lists
and
I'm
like
you
know,
I've
looked
at
these
things
before,
but
I
need
to
just
sit
down
and
really
read
them
and
maybe
print
them
out
and
read
them.
F
G
And
over
and
over
again
and
go
visit
all
these
sites,
but
that's
something
I
don't
have
to
do
in
a
group.
I
think,
having
an
idea
where
you
all
are
coming
from
what
your
backgrounds
are,
would
be
a
lot
more
helpful
to
me
than
deciding
what
the
connectivities
and
all
that
is
because
that
so
much
of
that
has
already
been
done,
is
in
print
and
is
available
online.
H
Okay,
all
right
sorry,
so
I
agree
with
what
bill
and
pat
and
kenny
said.
I
have
not
attended
another
retreat
with
this
commission,
so
I
don't
know
in
the
past.
Was
it
an
eight-hour
retreat?
Was
it
just
a
few
hours
because
I've
been
on
other
boards
of
commissions
and
usually
it's
like
an
all-day
affair,
where
you
kind
of
like
do
a
deep
dive
right?
H
I
really
like
the
idea
of
having
you
know
some
smaller
sessions
as
well
like
a
series
of
workshops
throughout
the
year
with
the
other
commissions,
but
I
think
it
is
important
that
we
build
trust
and
get
to
know
each
other
as
a
group
so
that
we
can
work
together,
because
I
think
that
it
goes
back
to
what
maggie
said
that
building
trust
like
that's
like
the
foundation
that
we
need
to
have
going
forward
to
work
effectively.
F
L
You
know
maggie,
and
this
is
one
I'm
just
going
to
bring
it
up
now
because
it
popped
up.
It
may
be
that
you
know.
Maybe
it's
multimodal
sits
down
to
talk
about
the
parklet
thing
and
you
invite
people
from
downtown
commission.
L
Maybe
it's
one
or
two:
maybe
you
get
the
chair
and
somebody
else
you
know,
maybe
because
of
you
know,
volunteer
time,
and
I
try
to
be
aware
of
that,
like
just
how
much
you
know
time
it
takes,
you
know
to
do
these
like,
so
maybe
you
don't
end
up
getting
the
entirety
of
who
you're
inviting
or
maybe
it's
not
even
the
entirety
of
multimodal.
You
know.
I
know
that
some
of
you
all
have
have
sat
down
with
these
d.o.t
meetings
about
marimen.
L
You
know
and
you
kind
of
bring
it
back
and
that's
kind
of
how
you
know.
Essentially
I
work
and
I'm
sure
anna
does
you
know
from
from
our
respective
you
know
commissions.
So
you
know
maybe
it's
grabbing
two
or
three
people
who
are
interested
and
it's
kind
of
that
cross-collaboration.
That
then
goes
back
out.
One
thing
I
did
want
to
add
and-
and
I
think
this
can
get
to
that-
what
what
pat
mentioned
and
bill
and
john
and
pretty
much
everybody
you.
K
L
I
I
have
been
you
know,
kenny
and
michael
and
randy
were
in
that
retreat
in
january,
or
was
it
october
2019
and
you
know,
from
multimodal
with
the
new
people
that
have
come
in
I've
reached
out.
I've
sat
down
with
a
couple
of
them.
You
know
had
coffee
gotten
to
know
him,
and
you
know,
I
think,
that's
really
great
too,
especially
with
with
the
way
this.
L
Over
the
last
18
months
of
just
seeing
you
all
this
way,
you
know
it's
been
nice
to
be
able
to
connect
like
michael
and
I
walked
downtown
with
the
whole
shared
streets
thing
way
back
last
year,
and
you
know
I've
sat
down
with
maggie,
so
just
to
put
that
out
there
that
I
have
done
that
with
people
on
planning
and
zoning
certainly
happy
to
do
it
with
any
of
you
all,
and
you
know
as
long
as
you
don't
as
long
as
jessica's,
not
listening
as
long.
B
Thank
you.
That
is
very
good
advice
for
us
to
get
together
when
we
can.
I
know
that
we
had
a
little
bit
of
time
going
downtown
with
the
small
groups
and
I
think
it's
just
it
is
functional.
You
get
to
know
folks,
and
you
also,
I
think
you
learn
some
history,
because
everyone's
bringing
different
histories
to
the
to
the
group
so
maggie
do
you
have
enough
info
input
response
from
us.
B
B
It
too,
so
I
can't
wait
for
it
to
happen.
Any
other
comments
on
this
topic
all.
J
B
Good,
I'm
looking
forward
to
it.
Okay
next
item
is
the
revisiting
the
bike
share
plan
free.
He,
the
e-scooter
goal,
is
next
with
jessica.
A
A
Dan
bechtold
is
working
on
on
revising
pieces
of
the
plan
to
to
reflect
what
we
believe
are
some
more
current
recommendations,
including
looking
at
just
moving
forward
with
the
bike
share
piece
and
recommending
that
the
scooter
piece
be
looked
at
separately
and
that
a
next
step
for
the
scooters
would
be
to
look
at
the
ability
for
private
individual
youth
rather
than
having
a
shared
e-scooter
system.
A
So
dan's
been
working
on
tweaking
the
language
of
the
of
the
plan
to
reflect
those
recommendations
and,
and
also
include
some
information
about
about
the
bike
share
piece
in
terms
of
it
being
a
system
that
is
not
necessarily
a
lock
two
system,
which
was
the
original.
A
The
original
recommendation,
because
since
even
that
was
made,
the
technology
has
has
advanced
significantly
to
where
you
can
not
necessarily
have
a
physical.
You
don't
have
to
physically
have
a
lock
a
place
for
the
bike
to
lock
to
because
the
bikes
basically
lock
themselves.
But
you
can
define
areas
small
areas
of
pavement
to
have
places
where
the
bikes
are
parked
and
stationed
they're,
just
not
necessarily
physically
locked
anymore
and
and
the
reason
why
that's
an
important
distinction
is
because
of
the
cost
implications
that
are
related
to
it.
So
anyways.
A
C
Yeah,
I
just
think
it's
thanks
jessica
for
that
work,
because
I
think
it's
super
important.
If
we
can
separate
the
e
bikes
here
or
the
scooter
share
is
what's
kind
of
holding
us
up
and
you
know
there's
money
that
may
become
available
through
infrastructure
plans
and
recovery,
money
and
stuff
too.
That
could
fun
possibly
fund
part
of
the
bike
share
program
and
we
need
to
grab
anything
we
can
and
if
we're
not
ready
with
a
plan
in
place,
then
that's
going
to
hold
us
up.
C
You
know
from
just
dependent
upon
car
use,
and
part
of
that
is
because
we
don't
have
a
connected
system
of
bikeways
in
in
new
pedestrian
ways
like
we're
just
talking
about
udo,
but
a
big
piece
of
that
is
going
to
be
e-bikes
and
bike
share.
So
we
do
this
here.
This
is
going
to
help
us
to
get
to
2045,
but
we
need
to
do
it
now,
because
if
we
don't
we're
going
to
miss
opportunity
for
potential
funding,
it's
just
going
to
put
us
further
behind.
So
I
think
it's
super
important.
C
F
F
B
D
No,
I
think
I
think
randy.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
we're
talking
about
electric
bikes
and
not
just
conventional
bikes,
but
it
sounds
like
we're.
We
are
talking
about
e-bikes
with
this
program
right.
C
Right
yeah
so
it'll
be
both
traditional
bikes
and
e-bikes,
because
without
e-bikes
we'd
find
all
the
bikes
down
by
the
rivers
in
a
place
like
asheville
or
we're
going
downhill
towards
that
direction,
but
yeah
definitely
e-bikes
would
be
crucial
in
the
study
to
talk
about
that.
You
know
making
this
program
work.
B
A
Correct,
although
there's
still,
I
think,
council
concern
about
e-scooters
and
similar
devices
in
general,
but
I
think,
as
you
know,
as
joe's
talked
about
previously,
I
think
I
think
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
there
they
exist
they're
out
there.
Now,
technically,
those
people
are
in
violation
of
the
law,
which
I
think
is
not
not
right.
A
So
the
idea
is
that
the
the
revised
plan
is
going
to
make
a
recommendation
that
our
next
step
for
e-scooters
be
to
explore
and
hopefully
implement
the
legal
ability
for
a
private
individual
to
own
and
operate
an
e-scooter
or
similar
device
in
asheville
and
to
separate
that
or
peel
it
away
from
the
concept
of
having
these
companies
like
lime
or
whatever
operating
a
system.
A
sharing
system
of
e-scooters.
B
Right
and
I-
and
I
think
that
you
know
sooner
rather
than
later-
we
I
see
those
one
wheels
and
I'm
starting
to
see
many
more
scooters
going
around
town.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
those
folks
are.
You
know
I
feel,
like
they're
they're,
not
doing
anything
that
should
be.
You
know,
I
think
they're
they're
they're,
it's
a
lovely,
alternate
mode
of
transportation,
pat.
G
Yes,
randy.
I
was
wondering
if
the
existing
sort
of
the
touristy
rental
bikes
that
have
electric
bike
tours
and
stuff
like
that,
have
they
been
reached
out
to
and
connected
because
they
could
be
really
great
advocates
for
this,
or
they
could
feel
threatened
by
all
these
extra
electric
bikes
being
out
there
publicly
available.
C
Because
they
they
established
themselves
after
we
started
working
on
the
study
when
we
had
a
group
for
this,
so
I
don't
think
they've
been
included
because
again
the
study
was
kind
of
put
on
pause
and
then
they
came
into
the
picture.
But
that's
a
good
idea,
though
I
mean
because
there's
no
reason
to
be
threatened.
Actually
they
would
be
enhanced
business
opportunities
because
of
bike
share.
So
I
think
that
you're
right,
though
we
should
have
some
communication
with
them
just
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
become.
C
B
Perfect.
Okay.
Next
item
is
the
update
on
the
transit
community
request
to
become
a
commission
jessica?
Do
you
have
an
update,
please.
A
Sure,
just
briefly,
the
the
boards
and
commissions
committee,
which
is
a
council
committee,
comprised
of
three
council
members,
including
kim,
met
yesterday
morning
and
this
was
on
their
agenda,
and
so
the
staff
report
for
that
was
attached
to
is
attached
to
your
agenda.
If
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
that,
they
did
not
make
any
any
recommendations
or
decisions.
A
Final
decisions
on
the
topic.
They
want
us
to
work
with
the
city,
clerk's
office,
who's
been
doing
some
surveys
and
and
research
in
general
about
boards
and
commissions
and
committees
and
and
work
with
them
to
see
how
how
this
might
work
in
general
and
what?
What
would
the?
A
What
would
the
make
up
of
it
be
if
we
were
to
move
forward
so
basically,
in
the
end,
they
want
some
additional
information
to
have
at
their
next
meeting,
so
they
rachelle
sorensen
cox,
from
the
transit
committee
she
attended
yesterday
and
spoke
spoke
about
it
kim
spoke
about
it
at
length,
and
I
think
we
got
some
really
good
information.
A
A
Right
right,
so
the
conversation
continues.
There
were
some
things
that
we,
I
think
agreed
to
that
are
you
know.
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
long-term
conversation
in
the
end,
there
are
some
things
that
we
agreed
to,
and
they
agreed
to.
One
of
them
is
that
at
our
next
meeting
in
future
meetings,
we
have
somebody
from
their
mobility
division
in
ncdot
who
their
those
folks
are
in.
A
You
know,
charged
with
looking
at
just
having
a
broader
perspective
than
just
vehicles
that
they
have
committed
to
having
somebody
from
that
staff
division
attend
our
discussions.
A
B
Yeah,
I
feel
like
from
the
last
update
you
gave.
The
the
starting
point
was
not
really
a
a
good
spot
for
the
city
of
asheville,
so
we
have
a
long
way
to
go,
but
at
least
they
continue
to
go
on
randy.
C
Yeah,
I
would
just
say
first
of
all,
it's
great
they're
meeting
with
this.
You
know,
because
my
understanding
is
that
five
years
ago
it
never
would
have
happened.
So
so
that's
great
and
it's
great
that
they
understand
to
some
extent
that
they
don't
understand.
I
mean
at
one
point
I
remember
the
the
division
13
head
saying:
oh
well.
C
I
know
I
remember
talking
to
some
of
the
staff
that
worked
on
bike
said
issues
with
ncdot
and
I
think
they're,
the
state's
largest
employer
with
like
12
000
employees
and
there's
like
four
or
six
people
that
work
in
the
multi-poster
for
them.
But
there's
no
reason
why
they
shouldn't
be
involved
in
this
kind
of
discussion
and
they
did
agree
for
that.
And
then
we
also,
you
know,
said
well.
C
You
have
level
of
service
for
cars,
but
you
don't
have
local
service
studies
for
bikes
and
pets,
and
they
said
well,
so
they
are
they're
starting
to
really
slowly
start
thinking
about
things.
It's
like
again.
They
don't
have
any
concept
of
mode
shift,
so
hopefully
you're
moving
towards
that.
But
you're
right,
it's
a
it's
a
it's
great
that
we're
having
these
conversations
because
they
could
just
be
like
whatever
you
know.
We
don't
have
to
have
these
they
and
they
don't
but
yeah.
C
It's
like
pulling
pieces
together
forward,
but
at
least
at
least
they're
willing
to
come
to
the
dentist
to
have
the
people.
So
so
you
know,
I
guess
I'm
very,
very
cautiously
optimistic,
but
at
least
there's
room
for
some
optimism
in
terms
of
in
in
in
regards
to
what
happens
with
merriman
at
least
again
and
they're,
bringing
lots
of
staff
in
for
these
meetings
too,
which
is
great
as
well.
C
If
we
just
had
it
with
one
or
two
people
for
them-
and
it
doesn't
broaden
the
scope,
because
every
single
person
on
their
staff
has
to
have
multi-modal
as
an
agenda
item
in
their
mind
and
every
project
they
do,
and
they
don't
have
that
unless
we
have
these
kind
of
discussions,
so
I
think
they're
well
worth
having
and
and
and
we're
not
like
at
a
huge
roadblock.
Although
we're
at
a
small
robot
just
to
work
over
it.
But
there's
you
know,
there's
there's
there's
hope
for
sure.
I
think.
K
F
A
I
think
that
it
just
want
to
echo
what
y'all
are
saying.
You
know
no
slam
dunks,
but
they're
still
at
the
table
and
what
it
really
makes
me
think
of
is
like
it
reminds
me
of
when
I
worked
at
the
city
and
was
doing
a
lot
of
change
management
to
get
city
staff
to
pursue
our
climate
goals.
It
was
like
okay
facilities.
A
Didn't
do
the
thing
that
we
talked
about
to
be
energy
efficient,
but
they're,
still
listening
and
then
one
day
they're
like
I
did
the
thing
you
know,
and
so
I
feel
like
we
have
the
opportunity
to
like
help
them,
because
we
would
like
present
holes
in
their
logic
they
kept
being
like.
Well,
our
experts
say
to
them.
They're,
like
yeah,
your
experts
only
looked
at
traffic
for
cars,
they
were
like,
oh,
but
our
experts
like
right
you're
at
like.
A
If
you
ask
a
surgeon,
if
you
need
to
like
remove
your
heart
for
a
broken
heart,
they're
gonna
say
yes
right,
but
it's
a
broken
heart.
So
I
mean
it's
a
bad
metaphor,
but
I
think
it's
good
and
I
think
that,
as
long
as
like
our
goal
is
like
supporting
them
in
change
and
seeing
different
perspectives,
I
feel
like
we're
we're
succeeding
and
that
it's
working,
hopefully
we'll
see
actual
infrastructure
improvement
on
maryland
sunday,
but
it
might
be
a
while,
but
I
I
feel
like
it's
still
worth
it
to
be
in
these
calls.
F
G
Quick
comment:
the
public
works
directors
pointed
out
in
another
meeting
that
the
d.o.t
20
years
ago
would
flat
out
say
that
a
traffic
circle
was
ridiculous
and
nothing,
and
now
it's
one
of
the
first
things
they
think
about
when
they
have
an
intersection
issue.
So
when
the
light
bulb
goes
off,
it
has
it.
It
goes
off
for
a
long
long
time
and
that's
probably
what's
going
to
happen
with
merryman.
F
B
I
feel
like
we
could
be
giving
off
the
vibe,
but
we're
digging
in
our
heels
a
little
bit
here,
but
I
think
this
this
corridor
is
so
critical
to
multimodal
connectivity
that
it's
it's
imperative,
that
we
do
that.
So
I
you
know,
I'm
always
a
little
hesitant
about
being
too
combative,
because
I
really
feel
like
we've
got
to
bring
positive
energy
to
get
a
good
solution,
but
it's
just
we
can't
let
this
one
slip
away.
So
I
just
feel
like
we're
heading
the
right
direction
and
it
seems
like
we're.
A
Yeah,
I
and
I
don't
know
if
we've
mentioned
before,
but
we
have
staff
from
the
mpo
also
attending
these
discussions,
which
is,
I
think,
beneficial
to
well,
it's
beneficial
in
general,
but
I
think
the
mpo.
You
know
they've
done
a
number
of
studies
and
plans
too
that
sort
of
support
what
our
goals
are
in
recognizing
that
level
of
service,
particularly
in
urban
areas,
should
not
always
be
the
deciding
factor.
A
It
should
not
be
the
only
consideration
that
can
you
know,
there's
acceptable
levels
of
congestion
during
peak
periods
that
people
can
expect
to
encounter
in
an
urban
area
and
that
we
shouldn't
be
designing,
trying
to
design
our
way
out
of
it,
because
that's
just
like
a
completely
futile,
futile
effort.
In
my
opinion,
so
yeah,
it's
like
a
bit
of
the
discussions,
are
a
little
bit
of
a
philosophical
battle.
I
think,
but
but
we're
they're
still
engaged
they.
They
are
the
ones
that
are,
you
know
reaching
out
to
schedule
this
next
meeting,
for
example.
A
So
I
think
I
think,
we're
in
a
good
spot,
but
it's
gonna
be
a
long
haul.
You
ready.
C
Yeah
one
thing
real,
quick
too
at
the
end,
is:
is
that
day
two
at
one
of
the
earlier
meetings
said
that
they
are
under
the
directed
to
follow
this
thing,
and
so
I
looked
up
what
that
thing
was,
and
it
said
they
made
it
sound
like
it
was.
You
know,
cars
have
priorities,
but
it
wasn't.
It
was
advancing
state
interests
over
local
interests.
So
then
it
was
nice
to
point
out
to
them
that
they
have
a
complete
streets
policy,
which
is
a
state
interest.
C
They
have
a
vision,
zero
policy
which
is
the
state
interest
and
so
over
and
over
the
last
couple
meetings
I
said:
well
you
say
that
the
state
interests
are
trump
local
interests.
These
are
state
interests
that
you've
adopted
and
so
we're
just
trying
to
help
you
utilize,
those
in
our
local
community
and
then
they
you
can
kind
of
see
them
almost
want
to
dismiss
that.
But
at
the
same
time
say
like
I
don't
really
like
they
almost
don't
understand
how
that
relates
to
what
they're
doing.
B
Excellent
all
right
onward.
Okay,
next
item
is
the
draft
permanent
right-of-way
closure
policy
jessica.
A
Thank
you.
So
after
we
met,
I
believe
it
was
in
april
where
we
talked
at
length
about
the
draft
policy
for
right
permanent
right-of-way
closures.
A
There
were
a
lot
of
questions
which
we,
which
we
recorded,
I
put
together
a
it's
basically
a
q,
a
memo,
it's
not
anything
fancy,
and
I
I
tried
to
summarize
the
questions
that
we
collectively
had
and
then
asked
our
city
attorney's
office
to
take
a
look
at
those
questions
and
provide
some
some
answers
or
some
clarification,
if
possible,
so
that
memo
is
in
your
agenda,
there's
a
link
to
it
and
I
was
just
going
to
take
a
minute
or
two
to
kind
of
highlight.
A
Some
of
the
conversations
that
I
would
say
were
were
larger
or
not
necessarily
more
important,
but
things
that
kind
of
kept
coming
up
so
questions
three
four
and
five
kind
of
had
to
do
with
whether
or
not
like
what
what
would
constitute
something
being
contrary
to
the
public
interest,
and
you
know,
could
we
require
certain
things:
make
conditions
on
it
on
agreeing
to
pri
to
to
close
a
permanent
right
away
or
to
close
a
right
away
permanently,
and
basically
the
answer
is
that
we
can't
condition
it.
A
We
can't
rescind
an
approval
once
it's
once.
It's
been
closed.
It's
been
closed,
but
as
far
as
figuring,
your
role
in
helping
to
figure
out
whether
a
request
is
with
is
contrary
to
the
public
interest
is,
is
just
like
what
we
talked
about
where
you
can
say.
A
When
you're
looking
at
one
of
these
requests
and
trying
to
make
a
decision
or
a
recommendation
on
it,
but
we
can't
we
can't
require
them
to
give
us
a
development
plan,
but
it's
sort
of
a
cat
and
mouse
kind
of
thing.
I
feel
like
where
you
know
there
might
be
some
straightforward
requests
that
you
don't
really
need
to
know,
and
but
you
might,
you
might
for
a
lot
of
them.
You
might
want
to
know
what
the
plan
is.
A
But
again
you
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
you
can't
really
like
make
a
judgment
about
the
development
itself.
It's
more
about
the
development
plan.
What's
the
site
plan,
what
are
they
going
to
you?
What
are
they
going
to
do
on
their
site?
Not
whether
it's
a
hotel
or
an
affordable
housing
project
like
we
can't
really
make
judgments
against
the
youth?
B
I
feel
like
when
we
went
through
this
last
month.
The
sense
that
I
was
getting
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
I
struggle
with
a
little
bit
is
that
I
need
to
remember
that
when
I'm
running
this
through,
whether
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
or
not
it's
from
a
perspective
of
multi-modal
transportation
and
not
from
a
perspective
of
use,
you
know
so
you
know,
traffic
counts
are
going
higher
in
a
overloaded
intersection.
That's
a
multimodal
issue.
B
You
know
the
inability
for
us
to
safely
have
a
confluence
of
more
pedestrians
with
more
vehicles.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
are,
you
know
in
our
issue
the
number
of
stories
in
the
building-
that's
not
in
my
purview.
B
So
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
I
was
struggling
with
and
these
answers
kind
of
made
me
feel
more
comfortable
about
saying
we're
going
to
make
a
recommendation
based
on
that
transportation
issue,
and
there
are
going
to
be
other
folks
like
the
folks
that
joe's
working
with
that
might
make
recommendations
on
some
other
applications.
So
I
think
we
can
feel
safe
and
strong
in
making
that
recommendation
based
on
what
we
know
is
important
to
this
group.
What
our
charges
as
a
group,
joe.
L
So
couple
questions
jessica
when
now
is
the
schedule
for
this
to
go
to
council
to
get
approved,
and
then
you
know
I
know
in
and
thank
you
for
putting
all
those
that
q
a
together
from
legal
staff.
That
was
great.
I
did
note
in
that
draft
ordinance
that
you
you
put
in
the
packet.
You
know
it
does
say
in
there
that
you
know
the
applicant
chill
and
shall
at
a
minimum
include
the
following,
and
you
know
under
number
one
is
associated
development
project.
L
If
applicable,
you
know
and
the
project
level.
You
know,
I
would
say,
90
of
the
time.
F
L
A
Yeah
yeah,
and
so
I
you
know,
I
still
need
to
there.
There
isn't
a
schedule
right
now
that
to
find
out,
but
what
I
want
to
do
is
I
want
to
go
back
through
it.
All.
I
probably
do
need
to
make
some
tweaks
based
on
things
that
legal
said
and
maybe
that
shell
is
not
necessarily
a
shell,
but
when
we
you
know
there's
when
we
accept
an
application,
the
application's
going
to
ask
for
it-
and
you
know
hopefully
they
provide
it
will
make.
A
L
Are
you
thinking
that
you
might
have
a?
I
would
love
to
look
at
it
I
mean
just
in
general.
I
don't
know
what
your
schedule
is
to
have
a
final
draft
though,
and
then
get
it
through
council
I
mean
this
is
kind
of
another
one
of
those
little
bits
and
pieces
that
boy
it'd
be
great
if
we
had
it
six
months
ago.
So
I
don't
want.
A
Okay,
okay!
Well,
hopefully
I
can
get
it
wrapped
up
in
the
next
month.
I
could
I
could
put
it
on
your
agenda.
You
know
again,
but
also
try
to
work
towards
it.
I
can
also
put
in
this
council
schedule,
like
put
in
a
request
to
be
on
a
council
agenda
for
september
or
something
so
I
think
we
can
get
there.
B
I
mean
joe,
when
I
think
about
what
you
were
talking
about
about
them,
not
willing
to
share
that
and
playing
hardball.
The
way
I
look
at
that
now
is,
I
see
I
cannot
foresee
a
situation
where
I
think
that
limiting
future
connectivity
is
a
good
idea
unless
there's
a
better
idea
to
replace
that
idea.
So
I
think
we
can
play
you
know
to
get
to
your
point,
get
there
without
actually
having
to
say
you
know
what
we're
not
gonna.
C
Yeah,
I
think
real,
quick
too.
We
had
a
situation
like
this
in
the
last
year
where
someone
said
you
want
to
block
this
right
away
off
in
this
parking
lot
area,
but
we
don't
know
what
we're
into
the
parking
lot
area
and-
and
so
we
recommended
not
to
approve
it
because
we're
like
we
don't
know
what
you're
going
to
develop
there
once
you
develop,
there
might
make
it
harder
for
us
to
use
the
adjoining
streets
the
multimodal
and
they
they
said
well.
C
It
might
not,
though
too
we
said
well
sure,
tell
us
what
you
want
to
do.
Then
we
can
make
that
judgment
and
they
said
well
we're
not
going
to
tell
you
and
then
they
said.
Well,
then
we're
not
going
to
prove
it.
You
know,
so
I
think
that
you
know
it
wasn't
like
we
were
being
mean
about
it.
We're
just
like
saying
that
our
job
is
to
help
encourage
multiple
transportation
and,
depending
upon
the
use
you're
going
to
put
on
that
property,
it
may
negatively
impact
it.
C
A
And
I
do
think
that
I
do
think
there
are
ones
that
are
going
to
come
before
you
that
will,
on
the
flip
side,
be
really
straightforwardly
easy
for
you
to
say
like
yeah.
That's
totally
fine
like
I.
I
can't
think
of
an
example
immediately
but
like
there
will
be
ones
where
you
will
just
look
at
it
and
say:
oh
yeah,
that's
not
a
big
deal,
there's
not
really
any
big
connectivity
opportunity
or
anything.
F
A
B
Is
the
update
the
citywide
speed
limit
reduction.
C
Well,
yeah,
I'm
sorry
so
jessica
and
I
know
I
know
we
we.
This
is
what
we
just
gotta
agree
and
almost
everything.
But
it's
the
one
thing
we
struggle
on.
I
say:
hey,
let's
just
tell
the
council
lower
the
speed
limit,
she
says
we
can't
do
that
because
legal
hasn't
given
us
the
the
go
ahead
to
do
that.
C
But
you
know
we're
a
commission,
so
we
don't
have
to
listen
to
the
difficulty.
We
do
a
lot
and
we
trust
her
expertise
and
her
guidance
is
so
important
to
us
and
I
never
want
to
negate
that
in
any
way
shape
or
form.
But
this
is
one
time
we
could
say.
As
a
commission,
you
know
what
it's
just
the
right
thing
to
do
and
if
we
get
fought
out
of
the
state,
then
we
get
bought
by
the
state.
C
You
know
and
and
maybe
the
city
isn't
willing
to
put
that
forward
and
that's
up
to
the
council
to
decide
you
know,
but
I
think
we
should
just
say
the
slower.
The
speed
limit
is
25
the
default
speed
of
25,
and
then
my
hope
is
that
the
council
will
then
approve
that
and
then
we'll
have
to
deal
with
that
approval
and
whether
the
state
is
like
it's
not
worth
our
trouble.
Let's
let
them
do
it
or
if
they're
like
no,
you
know
if
we're
going
to
fight.
C
You
know
those
asheville
people
can't
do
that
kind
of
stuff
safety.
Is
you
know
ridiculous,
we're
not
going
to
let
them
be
safer,
but
you
know,
but
I
I
think,
there's
a
question.
We
should
just
make
the
recommendation
to
city,
council
and
and
and
then
hopefully,
council
will
deal
with
it.
You
know
but-
and
I
just
want
to
be
more
more
cautious
about
it
and
stuff
few
of
it.
But
we've
talked
about
a
long
time.
It's
the
right
thing
to
do.
I
think
we
should
just
do
it.
A
B
All
right
any
other
comments
or
questions.
C
B
Okay,
john
hi,
maggie.
A
B
Okay
and
I'm
gonna
I
as
well
pat,
did
you
get
back
online?
Can
you
hear
us
all.
B
Well
done:
okay,
the
next
issue,
oh
bill.
Yes,
please.
I
I
just
can't
resist
we,
we
spent
an
hour
talking
about
our
treat
and
we
just
voted
on
citywide
speed
limit
reduction
in
three
minutes.
I
have
obviously
missed
part
of
the
memos
on
this
thing.
So
so
I
just
couldn't
resist.
C
Oh
yeah,
it's
been
on
the
agenda
for
like
a
year
so,
a
year
ago,
bikepad
task
force
had
just
you
know,
moved
through
their
community.
The
task
force
moved
it
up
to
this.
We've
been
working
on
it
forever
because
the
state
has
an
adversarial
relationship
with
the
city
with
every
city,
yeah
and
and
so
they
make
it
real
hard
for
cities
to
do
things
that
the
city.
C
You
know
that
the
state
wants
to
control,
and
so
we've
been
trying
to
navigate
this
in
a
way
that
won't
cause
the
ire
of
the
state
and
we've
been
doing
it
for
a
year,
and
so
now
we're
just
saying
hey.
If
we
get
the
ir,
we
get
the
ir,
and
maybe
city
council
won't
take
it
up.
C
You
can
do
straight
by
street
by
3
to
20,
but
you
can't
do
it
default
to
20..
So
that's
why
we
say.
25
and
other
communities
have
done
it.
So
that's
the
thing
too
we're
not
the
only
community.
Other
communities
have
done
it.
The
other
community
has
done
it
in
different
ways
too,
but
asheville
is
more,
would
be
a
more
prominent
one
to
do
it
than
some
of
the
smaller
communities,
so
hopefully
we're
okay,
but
anyway,
I
think
we
should
do
it.
B
Yes-
and
we
have
okay,
we're
going
to
committee
updates.
First
update
is
the
transit
committee.
John.
You
have
a
update.
H
From
us
for
us
please
so
can
we
see
here
look
at
my
notes,
the
bus
stop
improvements
are
well
underway.
They
are
currently
reviewing
right
away
for
potential
improvements
at
certain
stops
throughout
the
city,
the
new
city,
bus,
shelter,.
H
Has
no
more
plexiglass,
I'm
going
through
notes
from
the
last
meeting
and
actually
scratch
that
I'm
not
sure
exactly.
What
that
note
is.
My
handwriting
is
sloppy.
I
was
in
the
car
during
this
meeting
and
my
handwriting
from
the
notes
that
I
took
are
kind
of
sloppy.
H
H
A
lot
of
people
don't
know
that
we
have
a
fair
free
zone
in
asheville
and
it's
difficult
to
monitor
for
the
drivers
when
people
are
getting
on
and
off
the
buses,
because
when
they
leave
the
fair
free
zone,
how
do
they
collect
fare
from
people
once
they
leave
the
fair
free
zone?
So
that's
something
that
the
city
is
monitoring.
H
We
talked
a
lot
about
mass
distribution
that
they
are
still
distributing
masks
and
we
are
planning
an
upcoming
retreat.
So
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
with
the
transit
committee
from
the
last
meeting
great.
H
Are
also
there's
some
vacancies
on
on
the
committee
that
they're
looking
to
fill
so
we're
looking
to
get
more
people.
So,
if
you
know
anybody
who
is
interested
in
joining
a
committee,
please
send
them
that
way.
B
Thank
you
and
I
neglected
to
mention
at
the
top
of
the
meeting
that
unfortunately
lydia
had
to
resign
this
week.
She
just
couldn't
between
our
work
schedule
and
other
commitments,
couldn't
make
the
commitment
to
our
group
so
she's.
We
now
do
have
a
a
vacancy
on
our
committee
as
well
around
us
on
the
commission
and
on
the
greenway
committee.
K
No,
I
don't
remember
what
happened
last
meeting.
Did
I
miss
one
or
one,
but
was
the
last
one,
the
dot
I-26
discussion.
K
Okay,
yeah,
I
think
we
already
kind
of
went
over
that.
We
we
looked
at
the
aesthetics
committee,
some
of
the
decision
making
and
I
forwarded
lucy
a
picture
from
dillsboro
where
dota
put
in
a
new
sidewalk
and
instead
of
like
an
ugly
retaining
wall,
they
they
made
a
boulderized
retaining
wall
where
it's
concrete
but
carved
to
look
like
stone
in
a
really
natural.
Looking
way.
Anna
was
there
too,
so
she
can
vouch.
K
It
turned
out
really
cool.
I
think
it's
expensive,
but
I
sent
that
along
to
kind
of
convey
to
the
aesthetics
committee
that
that
might
be
a
better
option
for
some
of
the
other
retaining
wall
solutions,
especially
along
riverside
drive,
although
I
don't
know
how
far
they'll
take
that
and
then
there
was
discussion
about
lighting
and
the
the
committee
made
a.
I
think,
a
formal
recommendation
on
duke
energy
light
poles
to
be
used
on
dot-funded
greenway
projects,
so
yeah
good
meeting.
B
Good
good
bikepad.
C
I
look
at
too
many
screens,
so
I
was
not
at
the
june
meeting,
but
I
was
at
the
july
meeting
in
the
june
meeting.
C
I
believe
they
discussed
primarily
the
biltmore
style
study,
which
I
still
say
goers
more
that
way
because
it's
a
lot
of
stuff,
but
we
did
talk
about
the
hendersonville
road
study
when
I
was
in
the
july
meeting
and-
and
we
made
a
number
of
comments
about
it-
and
I'm
not
really
sure
exactly
how
we
can
do
some
of
the
things
that
are
in
it
because
they
kept
saying
we
made
some
comments
that
need
to
be
reported,
I'm
not
sure
how
we
can
make
sure
that's
implemented
because
they
kept
saying
well.
C
This
is
a
concept,
but
they
had
drawings,
for
example,
which
showed
high-speed
corners
crossing
over
the
new
10-foot
multi-use
trail
on
one
side
of
hendersonville
road,
that's
being
proposed,
for
example,
and
so
we
really
need
to
slow
down.
For
example,
the
turning
you
know,
radius
make
it
much
more
sharp,
so
we
can
turn
down
the
turning
speed
of
cars.
C
Turning
over
that,
you
know
multi-use
trail,
for
example,
and
those
things
commonly
had
like
that
and
but
then
the
you
know,
because
they
kept
saying
well,
so
that's
just
a
the
drawings
aren't
actually
the
plans
they're
just
you
know.
This
is
just
an
idea,
so
we
need
to
have
the
idea
be
dangerous,
moving
forward.
So
there's
a
number
of
things
that
should
be
adjusted
or
commented
on.
They
said
you
can't
adjust
it
because
the
plan
is
done.
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
publish
comment
for
that
plan
and
perhaps
about
mcdonald
again.
C
I
wasn't
here
for
that
one
in
june,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
we
can
do
that,
but
we
need
to
figure
out
some
way
to
do
it
because
they
gave
the
presentation
and
we
had
lots
of
comments
about
it
and
we
need
to
have
those
recorded
somehow
to
go
along
with
the
plan
so
that
when
we
do
get
funding
5
10
15
years
from
now
for
these
things
they
don't
just
say
well.
C
C
A
I
don't
know
if
this
is
interesting
to
others,
but
the
group
of
people
that
were
there
was
really
diverse,
that
we
had
folks
from
the
npo
and
we
had
us
and
then
there's
lots
of
just
people
are
really
technically
knowledgeable
and
then
walking
the
walk
and
thinking
about
this
I
was
just
really
blown
away
by
the
technical
dedication,
which
is
like
awesome,
totally
need
this
type
of
conversation,
because
there
were
some
leads
that
just
needed
their
eyes
on
them,
so
that
was
pretty
cool
and
then
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
just
really
briefly
was
this
d.o.t
is
pursuing
conversation
put
money
into
a
brand
new
interstate
interchange,
where
the
I'm
going
to
forget
the
name
of
my
company.
A
That's
building
that
economic
development
plan
falcons.
F
A
Know
that
name?
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
pratt
whitney
and
so,
and
I
know
that,
like
the
economic
development
incentives
for
pratt
whitney
is
very
there's
a
lot
of
mixed
feelings
in
the
community.
But
what
I
found
interesting
regardless
of
that,
is
that,
like
it's
going
to
be
extremely
expensive
and
we
do
a
collaborative
regional
planning
exercise
to
get
projects
in
the
queue
anytime,
we
go
to
dot
and
we're
like
hey.
A
We
want
this
multi-mobile
projector,
hey,
we
have
cc
concerns
they
say
well,
you
got
to
get
on
the
15-year
waiting
list,
yet
this
project,
which
would
absorb
a
huge
amount
of
state
budget
like
didn't,
go
on
the
waiting
list.
So
there's
a
lot
to
it.
It
seems
like
there's
mega
powers
that
be
involved
and
that
the
state
does
a
lot
in
their
negotiations
for
economic
development,
so
currently
it
just
might
be
like
out
of
our
reach,
but
it
trusts
me.
A
I
was
like
this
doesn't
feel
really
fair,
because
every
time
we
ask
for
stuff
for
stacey
I'll
say,
there's
no
money
and
we
have
to
wait
on
the
list,
but
this
project
for
economic
development
cuts
the
front
of
the
line,
so
just
want
to
share
that.
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
the
details,
so
I
can't
expound,
but
I
just
want
to
share
people's
radar.
C
Sorry,
I
will
just
say
one
thing:
real
quick,
though,
in
response
to
that,
once
in
a
while,
the
state
does
respond
like
in
meadow
road,
which
was
supposed
to
be,
I
think,
2026
we
saved
and
they're
bumping
that
up
to
the
next
year.
So
you
know
it.
C
I
totally
agree
with
maggie
in
terms
of
like
the
privatization
of
how
they
deal,
things
seems
slowly
out
of
whack
and
in
favor
towards
big
money
development,
but
this
dot,
which,
contrary
to
other
ones,
well,
I
understand,
or
just
a
few
years
ago,
would
never
have
considered
alternating
or
altering
a
paving
schedule
of
metal
roads,
for
example,
just
because
we
asked
for
it
and-
and
they
have
so
good
in
that
with
them
for
sure.
A
I
don't
have
anything
to
share.
I
think
kenny
touched
on
it
a
little
bit.
There
was
a
joint
meeting
with
a
greenway
committee
and
I-26
aesthetics
committee
last
month
to
talk
about
some
of
those
things.
J
Anna,
oh
sorry,
to
jump
ahead
once
you're
done
with
that
I
was
gonna
say
I
do
have
a
knack
update.
So
oh,
please
yeah
go
for
it
thanks.
We
had
our
meeting
on
monday,
so
that
agenda
it
just
hasn't
been
published
yet,
which
is
probably
why
there's
no
attachment
in
the
meeting
materials
same
with
maybe
joe
as
well,
but
one
thing
of
interest
to
multimodal,
I
think
is
we
had
rebecca
chaplin,
who
is
the
associate
state
director
of
the
mountain
region
of
aarp?
J
Come
give
us
a
presentation
on
how
to
build
capacity
between
knack
or
even
neighborhood
organizations
and
aarp,
and
she
sort
of
reiterated
several
times
that
a
lot
of
the
work
that
they
do
is
sort
of
senior
focused.
But
it
really
is
about
making
neighborhoods
and
communities
a
better
place
to
live
and
more
accessible
and
connected.
So
she
did
touch
on
their
livable
communities,
initiatives
which
they've
partnered
with
asheville
on
bikes
in
the
city.
J
J
I
think
funding
or
sort
of
shared
funding
to
develop
transit
stops
in
certain
locations
that
may
be
needed.
So
I
thought
that
was
really
interesting
and
then
also
letting
us
know
that
they
have
community
challenge
grants
available
and
that
funding
cycle.
Typically,
the
application
process
runs
february
through
april,
but
they
offer
anywhere
from
two
to
ten
thousand
dollars
for
place,
making
initiatives
and
grants.
J
So
while
it
may
not
be
something
that
multimodal
could
could
leverage
as
a
commission
just
wanted
to
get
the
word
out
to
you
all
for
your
neighborhoods
and
communities
for
if
you
see
a
need
that
related
to
transportation
or
multimodal
connectivity
or
even
transit,
stops
that
that
resource
might
be
available
to
folks.
So
that's
what
I've
got.
B
L
I
mostly
wanted
to
comment
on
something
that
randy
made
regarding
that
hendersonville
road
corridor
study
we
are
actually
next
month.
Next
week's
planning
and
zoning
meeting
will
have
a
presentation
report
on
all
three
quarter:
corridor
studies,
hendersonville
tunnel
and
biltmore
mcdowell.
So.
F
L
I
will
definitely
make
mention
of
your
comment.
You
know
about
getting
making
sure
public
comment
is
part
of
of
all
that,
if
you
want,
you
could
certainly
come
to
or
submit
comments
to
planning
and
zoning
about
that
hendersonville
road
corridor
study.
I
mean
it
is
it's
part
of
our
public
meeting
and
so
public
comments
are
allowed
on
on
those
items.
L
So
you
know
we
are
back
to
in-person
meetings
and
going
all
the
way
back
to
something
jessica
mentioned
about
multi-modal's
upcoming
in-person
meeting
those
tv
screens,
there's
two
at
the
front
two
at
the
back.
So
when
you're
sitting
at
the
desk,
you
can
see
the
two
big
screens,
which
is
much
nicer
than
having
for
those
who
are
used
to
or
were
previously
in
that
room
having
to
kind
of
crank
your
head
around
to
the
side
to
look
so
it.
F
A
A
B
All
right
any
other
comments
or
questions.
B
L
B
Note
the
staff
updates
the
list
of
projects
that
are
always
attached.
We
have
our
future
agenda
items,
we
have
anything,
they
would
like
to
add,
send
it
off
to
jessica
or
amy,
and
we
can
get
that
on
there.
Next
meeting,
we're
scheduled
for
8
25
in
person,
that's
exciting
and
pat.
Yes,
please.
G
I
just
on
the
list
of
projects,
I
was
trying
to
print
it
out
and
I
was
not
able
to
do
that.
It's
another
place
to
get
it.
G
Because
I
had
to
try
and
get
to
change
the
size
and
then
it
wanted
to
print
75
pages.
Oh.
F
A
Right,
yeah,
it's
in
google
sheets,
so
that
we
we
just
update
the
same
thing
every
month,
but
I
could
make
a
pdf
of
it
and
send
that
to
you,
but
it
would
just
be.
I.