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From YouTube: Board of Adjustment – September 25, 2023
Description
Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Board of Adjustment.
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A
The
meeting
will
now
come
to
order
welcome
to
the
September
25th
2023
city
of
Asheville
Board
of
adjustment
meeting.
My
name
is
Paul
wilzinski
I
am
the
chair
of
this
board.
The
board
of
adjustment
is
a
quasi-judicial
body
that
is
governed
by
the
North
Carolina
General
statutes
of
the
city's
unified.
A
A
But
object
I
have
no
objections.
Okay,
before
I
start,
we
we
have
one
case
and
I
will
say
to
Mr
Stanton.
There
are
normally
five
people
on
the
board
it
requires.
Regretting
of
a
varians
requires
four
votes
in
favor.
There
are
only
four
people
here
today,
so
I
will
give
you
the
option
of
postporting
this
until
the
next
meeting,
where
there
would
be
openly
five
and
you
would
have
at
least
the
option
of
having
one,
no
quote.
So,
would
you
like
to
postpone?
It
would
like
to
continue.
A
A
Sets
specific
procedures
and
rules
concerning
how
this
board
must
make
its
decisions?
These
rules
are
different
from
some
other
types
of
land
use
decisions
like
rezoning
cases
which
are
legislative
in
nature.
This
board's
decisions
are
constrained
by
the
standards
of
the
city's
ordinances
and
the
facts
presented
at
the
hearing.
The
board
hears
and
considers
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
applies
the
standards
set
forth
in
state
law
and
the
city's
ordinance
board
must
face
its
decisions
upon
competent
material
and
substantial
evidence
presented
at
the
area.
A
A
Parties
may
present
evidence
call
witnesses
and
make
legal
arguments.
Witnesses
May
testify
as
to
facts
to
which
they
are
competent
to
testify
so
long
as
those
facts
relate
to
the
legal
standards.
In
addition,
lay
or
non-expert
witness
testimony
is
limited
to
facts
and
not
opinions
for
certain
topics.
This
Board
needs
to
hear
opinion
testimony
from
expert
Witnesses.
These
topics
include
projections
about
impacts
on
property
values
and
projections
about
impacts
on
traffic
safety,
for
variance
requests.
A
The
four-fifths
vote
of
the
board
is
required
to
Grant
the
variance
for
all
other
hearings
and
matters,
including
the
adoption
of
the
minutes.
The
decision
will
be
made
by
a
civil
majority
vote
of
the
board.
Witnesses
must
swear
or
affirm
their
testimony.
At
this
time
we
will
administer
the
oath
for
all
individuals
who
intend
to
provide
witness
testimony.
Please
stand
and
raise
your
right
hand.
D
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
I
would
also
like
to
formally
recognize
Miss
White
and
the
applicant,
who
is
here
with
us,
Mr
Stanton,
for
their
patience.
This
is
a
huge.
This
is
a
little
atypical.
I
wish
it
were
more
atypical
than
it
is
in
terms
of
getting
people
here
and
getting
started
on
time.
So,
thanks
for
your
cooperation
this
afternoon,
as
the
chair
has
said,
my
name
is
Sam
Starbomb
for
the
record.
I
am
a
planner
too,
with
planning
and
Urban
Design
and
before
us
today
is.
D
D
So,
what's
going
to
happen
is
again
I
like
to
start
with
the
summary,
then
we'll
go
through
some
maps
talk
about
where
we
are,
what
we're
looking
at,
what
the
lot
is
like
and
then
we'll
get
into
the
regulation
before
looking
at
the
actual
site
plan
provided
by
the
applicant
again,
as
the
chair
had
said,
this
is
for
a
variance
from
7124f,
which
is
looking
at
the
grading
extent.
It
is
worth
noting
that
rating
land
disturbance
is
different
in
steep
slope
zones.
D
This
is
in
perpetuity,
which
means
that
any
land
disturbance
done
cannot
be
done
again.
You
can
redisturb
areas
that
have
already
previously
been
Disturbed,
but
this
is
where
you
get
your
limits,
and
this
is
with
the
express
consent
of
preserving
the
natural
beauty
of
the
Asheville
region.
So
that's
what
we're
looking
at
here
where
in
Asheville
are
we,
of
course,
with
any
steep
slope
regulations?
This
is
going
to
be
north
and
east
Asheville
as
the
crow
flies.
D
This
is
about
a
quarter
mile
north
of
the
beaucatcher
tunnel,
about
half
mile
south
of
Sealy's
castle
and
directly
east
of
the
Asheville
Arms
Again
by
about
a
half
mile.
So
it
is
just
in
that
quadrant
of
Northeast
Asheville,
as
you
really
begin.
What
is
the
residential
area
for
what
I
would
consider
geographically
and
culturally
North
Asheville?
So
here
you
can
see
in
the
red
where
this
is.
D
This
is
on
Vance
Gap
Road,
which
is
accessed
off
Town
Mountain,
and
then
you
just
head
south
of
note
where
this
picture
is
the
density
and
type
of
development.
Here
these
are
all
single
family
homes
on
steeper
Lots.
This
is
not
a
mixed
use.
There
was
nothing
about
this,
but
the
applicant
is
proposing
with
a
site
plan
is
in
conformance
with
the
area
in
terms
of
massing
in
terms
of
density,
in
terms
of
intensity,
which
is
the
number
of
buildings,
and,
of
course,
that's
reflected
here
in
the
zoning
map.
D
You
can
see
again
in
the
red
where
that
lot
is.
This
is
just
a
potpourri
of
residential
zoning.
You
have
RS4,
which
is
low
density.
You
have
RS8,
which
is
or
excuse
me
rm6,
which
is
still
a
lower
density,
and
then
you
have
of
course
rs2,
which
is
the
lowest
density
residential
you
can
get
within
the
city
of
Asheville.
That
is
what
this
current
lot
376
man
scap
is
proposed,
as
and,
as
you
will
know,
from
my
presentations
I
also
like
to
talk
about
how
we
got
here,
I
think
in
development.
D
This
is
like
math
class.
How
you
do
your
work
is
as
important
as
the
work
and
the
answer
itself.
So
we're
going
to
talk
about
712
for
F1.
For
a
minute,
your
watt
is
limited
to
a
grading
percentage
based
on
the
slope,
provided
either
by
a
surveyor
or
orthographic
imagery.
That
does
the
math
for
you.
So
what
we
are
seeing
is
in
this
parcel,
which
is
1.19
1,
9,
Acres
or
51
836.4
square
feet.
D
We
have
a
slope
of
58,
which
is
remarkably
steep.
We
often
see
slopes
of
around
40,
which
is
the
most
restrictive,
and
because
the
elevation
of
this
lot
is
at
2555
feet
above
elevation,
you
can
see
from
the
table
at
the
bottom
that
for
Zone
B
properties
above
40
percent.
This
is
limited
to
15
of
the
total
lot,
so
under
regular
rules
before
the
variance
is
sought.
This
lot
is
allowed
for
disturbance
of
775
square
feet,
because
that
is
15
of
the
1.19
Acres.
D
There
is,
however,
what
complicates
this
existing
disturbance
on
the
lot
so
prior
to
the
standards
purchasing
of
this,
there
were
a
number
of
disturbances
that
happened
there
at
1
850
square
feet
which
reduces
the
amount
allowed
for
this.
So
what
the
applicant
has
done
is
apply
for
a
variance
to
allow
for
the
ordinary
amount,
the
7775,
which
would
be
15
percent,
plus
the
additional
to
accommodate,
which
was
already
Disturbed,
and
you
can
see
here
where
that
is
already
done.
This
is
in
your
packets.
This
is
on
the
presentation.
D
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
about
this,
but
generally
it
is
that
line
you
see
to
plan
view
east
and
south
that
accounts
for
that
1850s.
So
the
applicants
are
looking
for
in
total
9625
square
feet
to
accommodate
the
disturbance
that
they
would
be
allowed
under
any
normal
situation,
as
well
as
the
disturbance
to
take
into
account
the
MSD
right-of-way.
That
is
there
and
has
already
been
Disturbed.
I
cannot
answer
for
you
who
previously
Disturbed
it.
It
is
MSD,
right-of-way
I,
think
it's
a
pretty
reasonable
conclusion.
D
D
You
can
guess
with
with
a
high
degree
of
accuracy
who
did
it,
but
there's
no
way
to
confirm
it,
because
this
happened
before
the
institution
of
the
steep
slope,
Zone
regulations.
You
still
do,
however,
reply-
and
there
are
also
HOA
rules
here
that
apply
for
the
applicant
to
make
sure
his
home
is
of
a
certain
size.
So
the
site
plan
is
what
the
applicant
has
submitted
for
the
variance
he
has
not
applied
for
a
residence
yet,
but
this
would
be
the
site
plan.
So
I
want
to
be
clear
that
we
are
not
approving
a
house.
D
We
are
not
approving
a
plan.
What
we
are
approving
is
the
amount
of
grading
to
happen.
This
is
the
most
likely
situation
in
in
considering
this.
The
applicant
his
architect
team
has
done
frankly
a
reasonable
job
of
reducing
the
footprint
aiming
it
to
where
there
is
an
existing
retaining
wall,
so
they
can
continue
to
redisturb
and
placing
this
at
the
North
West
corner
and
the
most
compact
area
possible
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
HOA
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
family
and
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
city
of
Asheville.
D
So
again,
that's
what
we
have
before
us
today
is.
This
is
not
something
that
is
viewed
as
extravagant.
This
is
not
to
grade
half
the
lot
for
amenities.
This
is
to
place
the
single-family
home
at
the
rate
that
would
normally
be
allowed
under
normal
conditions,
which
again
is
15
or
775
square
feet,
plus
just
this
extra
bit
for
what
was
already
previously
Disturbed.
B
D
D
Again
this
is,
you
can
take
an
educated
guess
that
for
MSD
right-of-way
there
was
probably
some
sort
of
water
line
or
some
sort
of
infrastructure
that
was
placed
in.
That
is
something
that
the
due
diligence
of
an
applicant
or
someone
purchasing.
This
lot
can
turn
up.
That's
not
something
that
we
have
on
record,
but
it
is
likely
that
they
were
the
cause
of
the
1850.,
but
it
was
certainly
I
want
to
be
clear.
It
was
not
the
applicant
this.
D
You
can
just
if
it
is
Disturbed,
you
can
redisturb
the
area
if
it's
new,
though
you
can't
disturb
anymore,
so
I'm,
sorry
yeah,
so
you
can
redistribe
existing
Disturbed
and
the
applicant
has
worked
to
do
that
thoughtfully
and
intentionally
to
keep
the
footprint
down,
which
is
the
spirit
of
the
law.
The
problem
is
he's
having
a
challenge
meeting
the
letter
of
the
law
because
of
the
right-of-way,
but
the
whole
idea
behind
steep
slope
zones
was
to
preserve
the
natural
environment,
and
you
know
this
is
I.
D
B
Assistant
is
a
disturbance
that
was
calculated.
Is
that
from
the
easement,
or
is
that
from
this
assumed
trench?
That
was.
D
Easement
so
that
is
already
predisturbed.
The
1850
is
the
existing
Disturbed
and
that's
shown
as
that
narrow
line.
What
is
utility
is
called
utility
trench
and
also
MSD
right-of-way,
one
in
the
same
they're
to
the
West
and
south
of
this
site
plan.
So
that's
1850
and
then
the
other
77
75
is
the
normal,
which
they
have
not
done
yet,
but
would
seek
permission
to
do
prior
to
applying
for
a
home
to
make
a
total
of
9625.
C
Would
you
like
to
excuse
me
so,
first
of
all,
my
wife
and
I,
like
a
child,
tried
Steve
slope,
but
maybe
I
should
just
start
by
saying.
First
of
all,
we
we,
my
wife,
Susan
I'd,
say
this
first
right,
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
my
wife
Susan,
who
is
the
co-property
owner
of
376
fans,
Gap
Road,
so
I'm
speaking
on
her
behalf
as
well
as
for
me,
the
reason
why
we
bought
this
lot
was.
F
C
Personal
desires
of
what
we
would
build,
our
intentions
are
to
live.
There
it'll
be
our
primary
residence.
It's
not
an
investment
property.
It's
not
going
to
be
on
verbo.
It's
it's
our
place,
so
I
appreciate
your
consideration.
I
also
want
to
say
that
I
I
did
five
years.
We
live
in
Chapel
Hill
I
did
five
years
on
one
of
the
towns
advisory
boards.
There
so
I
understand
what
goes
into
the
into
the
work.
C
But
it
makes
the
community
so
appreciate
that
so
I
think
Sam
did
a
good
job
of
describing
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
and
and
what
our
ask
is
and-
and
you
asked
him
to
the
question
so
I'll
just
talk
about
sort
of
what
the
consequences
are,
because
if
I
understand
the
law
correctly
I'm
representing
myself,
I'm,
not
a
lawyer,
it's
it's
about
the
hardships
that
might
get
created
by
the
strict
application
of
the
of
the
ordinance.
C
So
I'll
just
go
so
first
of
all,
I
think
just
the
overall
I
think
Sam
set
it
up.
It's
a
little
bit
of
we're
between
a
little
bit
of
a
rock
and
a
hard
place,
because
if
we
have
to
use
the
strict
interpretation
and
basically
eat
that
extra
1800
square
feet
of
disturbance,
that's
already
on
the
property
we're
going
to
have
a
challenge.
Building
house
that
also
meets
the
homeowners
covenants
and
restrictions
which
are
1800
square
feet
of
heat
heated
square
feet.
C
So
it's
going
to
be
tough
to
build
a
house
that
size,
and
on
top
of
that
you
know
in
order
to
do
so,
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
more
expensive
in
terms
of
how
how
the
structure
I'm
not
a
technical
person
either.
So,
but
if
I'm,
if
I'm
getting
it
correctly,
the
more
narrow
the
foundation
is
the
deeper
you
have
to
go
and
that'll
create
more
expense
in
terms
of
building
it.
C
So
the
building
costs
are
going
to
be
as
high
or
higher
than
if,
if
the
the
the
zoning
variance
is
approved.
So
so
that's
the
thing,
and
you
also
I
would
add
in
your
package.
You
have
a
note
from
my
next
door:
neighbor
Ron
Patton,
who
has
a
home
already
built
on
his
property,
so
he's
the
abotic
property,
as
well
as
the
president
of
the
homeowners
association,
indicating
that
their
support
of
the
variance
and
concerned
that,
if
it's
not
granted
that
it
will
create
a
challenge
for
them
and
maybe
I'm
I'm
gonna.
C
The
package
is
in
a
certain
order
and
how
I
describe
this
but
I,
maybe
I'll
jump
around
a
little
bit
here.
So
let
me
explain
that
issue
to
you:
they'll
have
they'll
want
to
enforce
the
1800
square
foot
variants.
The
smallest
house
currently
in
this
community
is
2200
square
feet
and
most
are
larger,
so
they're
concerned
that
this
will
not
be
in
the
character
will
not
be
consistent
with
how
the
other.
F
C
Are
in
the
in
the
neighborhood
on
on
that
on
that.
F
C
F
C
Exactly
anxious
to
ran
any
exception
and
they
state
that
clearly
in
the
in
the
letter.
C
Should
also
say,
I've
also
served
on
homeowners
associations
before
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
challenges
that
you
face
on
a
homeowners
association
is
you
want
to
accommodate
your
neighbors,
but
you
make
one
little
exception
and
it
opens
the
door
to
another
exception
another,
and
you
I'm
sure
you
see
the
same
thing
on
this
board
that
you
do
a
little
something
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
someone
comes
in
and
said
well
in
2021.
C
You
did
this
and
and
therefore
I
just
want
that
too
or
I
want
a
little
more
than
that
and
then
you're
like
well,
maybe
yeah,
maybe
not,
but
so
so
they're
going
to
have
a
precedent
issue.
If,
if
we're
in
a
situation
where,
literally
as
we
put
everything
together
and
try
to
meet
the
height
restrictions
as
well
on
the
building
to
meet
the
spirit
of
it,
which
is
to
maintain
the
the
the
environment
in
it,
it's
going
to
be
a
challenge.
So
I'll
I'll
stop
on
that
one.
C
C
The
reality
is
is
that
you
know
there.
There
will
be
some
Financial
impact
on
us
in
this
decision,
one
way
or
the
other
right
to
the
benefit
or
or
to
the
drawback,
because
if
it's
a
smaller
house
you
know
most
real
estate
is
valued
by
square
feet.
It's
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
worthless
as
a
whole
and,
as
I
said
before,
I
think
the
building
costs
are
going
to
be
similar.
No
matter
what
happens
so
so
there's
going
to
be
some
financial
hardship
there.
C
So
that's
I
mean
that's
a
concern
to
to
us
as
well.
C
You
know
so
I
mentioned
the
construction
costs.
It
was
so
good,
so
all
right,
so
the
second
one
is
and
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
take
these
These
are
sort
of
every
day,
I'm
going
to
just
say
everyday
life
implications.
That'll
come
from
this,
so
the
first
one
is
in
the
smaller
structure
that
we
would
build
with
the
script.
Strict
application,
it's
going
to
be
nearly
impossible
to
design
a
plan
that
has
the
master
bedroom
on
the
same
floor.
C
You
know
because
this
is
going
to
be
a
property
that
you
come
in
on
the
top
floor
and
then
you're
gonna,
you're
gonna
go
downstairs
for
other.
You
know
a
second
floor
on
that
side
of
it,
so
my
wife
suffers
from
a
inflammatory
illness
called
PMR
polymyalgiaomatica,
it's
very
painful,
and
you
know
we're
probably
going
to
have
to
move
out
of
the
place
in
in
Chapel
Hill,
regardless
with
because
the
stairs
she
has
a
lot
of
trouble
with
the
stairs
it's
very
painful
disease
and
affects
our
Mobility
so
having
to
use
the
stairs.
C
The
idea
is
to
design
something
where
you
know
we
can
minimize
the
use
of
the
stairs
so
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
have
that
issue
and
that'll
that'll
be
a
challenge
for
us
there,
so
the
other
one
is
with
the
smaller
design
we're
trying
to
build
in
a
carport
in
it.
C
So
we
can
get
our
cars
off
the
street
and
if
you've
been
up
in
this
neighborhood,
so
the
streets
are
very
narrow
in
that
spot
and
they
it
does
widen
out
a
little
bit
at
this
retaining
wall,
that's
on
our
property,
but
that
also
goes
to
a
private
drive
that
goes
down
to
like
three
other
properties
that
are
that
are
beneath
it
or
right
next
to
it.
C
Out
in
in
cars
in
the
in
the
neighborhood
on
so
so
that
that
would
that
was
the
other
one
that
I
had
so.
Finally,
I'll
just
go
to
the
the
community
at
large,
so
there
are
a
number
of
houses.
There
were
a
number
of
houses
built
in
the
neighborhood
that
were
built
before
this.
This
strict
code,
which
I
think
was
in
the
mid
2010s,
is
when
the
code.
Oh,
we
said:
okay,
seven,
all
right,
I
apologize,
but
my
understanding
is.
C
C
That
you
wanted
from
the
ordinance
I
think
was
to
make
sure
that
nobody
designed
some
crazy
structure
that
can
that
can't
stay
on
the
mountain
it'll
fall
off
right.
We
don't
want
that
either.
So
you
know
so
there's
there's
that
piece
of
it,
but.
C
Suggest
that
I,
it's
a
it's
a
relatively
easy
thing
to
Grant
this
access
and
I
I
tried
to
think
about.
Well,
what
would
be
what
would
be
Inver
adverse
impacts
of
the
community
doing
so
versus
the
potential
benefit
and
the
one
I'll
just
I'll
I'll
leave
you
with
is
just
property
taxes,
as
I
said
before,.
C
C
C
My
my
sister
was
up
here
a
little
while
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
she
went
by
the
lot
just
to
see
what
it
was
like
and
she
looked
to
her
right
and
there
was
a
bear
coming
down
the
hill
and
she
got
me
a
nice
picture
of
the
bear.
The
Bears
are
in
the
neighborhood
and
that
bears
a
neighbor
I'd
like
that,
bear
to
be
there
and
maybe
even
see
it
from
a
distance
on
a
on
a
nice.
A
A
C
Than
that
I
understand,
that's
not
an
atypical
thing
here:
right,
I'm
learning,
I,
don't
live
here
yet,
but
I
do
so
all
right,
so
I
I
will
stop
there.
I
I
appreciate
your
time.
I
appreciate
you
listening
attentively
to
to
our
case
and
I'll
stop
there.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
You
mentioned
something
about
the
the
president
of
the
association
was
a
challenge.
C
Yeah
so
Ron
Patton,
you
have
a
letter
in
your
in
in
the
package.
C
In
support
of
our
request
here
and
he's,
in
addition
to
being
the
president
of
the
homeowners
association
he's
also
on
the
adjacent
lot,
so
I'll
be
his
next
door.
Neighbor
directly
on
that,
and
you.
C
His
view
is,
is
they
they
believe
it's
essential
for
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
that
the
houses
be
of
approximately
you
know
a
certain
size
and
that's
why
it's
in
the
covenants
and
restrictions-
and
you
know
I,
ideally
he'd-
prefer
a
home.
That's
you
know
22
to
2500
square
feet
at
least,
but
1800
is
the
limit,
and
so
their
their
concern
is.
Is
that
that
the
property
is
is
not
going
to
have
a
house?
That's
consistent
with
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood.
D
D
Clarification
for
the
board
to
make
this
clear
one.
These
regulations
run
with
the
land
whether
whether
the
students
build
on
this
or
not.
This
will
be
a
challenge
faced
by
whoever
owns
this
right.
The
other
thing
that
was
brought
up
was
the
home
size.
What
the
applicant
is
seeking
is
a
variance
to
the
amount
of
the
land
they
can
disturb
in
perpetuity.
The
other
regulations
that
they
will
face
are,
in
fact,
more
restrictive
building
Heights,
which
exist
in
steep
slope,
Zone
a
and
Zone
B.
D
So,
while
ostensibly
the
answer
is,
if
you
need
a
certain
amount
of
heated
square
feet
is
to
build
up.
That
is
not
something
that
is
allowable,
so
if
this
were
to
be
denied-
and
these
stands
could
not
build
or
choose
not
to
build,
whoever
comes
next
for
this
lot
would
likely
just
be
seeking
a
different
variance.
D
So
there
there
is
I
I,
don't
want
to
Advocate
or
or
step
in
where
I
shouldn't,
but
it
is
worth
pointing
out
the
entire
regulatory
environment
in
which
a
development
such
as
this
exists,
and
so
that
is
the
way
that
Mr
sand
couch.
It
made
me
compelled
to
point
out
that
there
are
other
building
and
massing
regulations
at
play
here,
for
your
consideration.
A
Okay,
they're
being
none.
Is
there
a
motion
from
a
member
of
the
board.
F
B
Guess
the
only
discussion
that
I
would
say
is
that
we
can't
take
a
look
at
any
kind
of
financial
hardship
on
your
part.
Nor
do
we,
this
body,
have
a
a
concern
with
taxes,
so
those
aren't
really
in
play
for
us
and
for
our
consideration
for
this.
This
piece
of
property
is
unique
in
that
it
is
very
steep.
It
has
previously
disturbed
land
that
you
can't
actually
site
your
house
on.
B
So
if
it
was
up
by
the
road,
you
would
potentially
be
able
to
site
your
house
on
that
previously
disturbed
land
and
thereby
possibly
not
even
needing
a
variance.
However,
just
by
your
virtue
of
its
location,
you
are
needing
to
request
a
variance
just
to
capture
the
small
amount
of
disturbance
that
you're
allowed
on
your
property,
because
you're
in
steep
slope,
Zone
B.
B
In
addition
to
that,
you
also
have
to
do
a
lot
of
geotechnical
testing
on
the
site
to
make
sure
that
the
slope
is
going
to
be
stable
enough
to
hold
your
home
and
the
bridge
that's
going
to
hold
up
the
driveway.
That's
probably
how
you're
gonna
have
to
do
it
and
that's
what
your
plans
are
showing.
So
I
feel
like
this
is
a
reasonable
request,
you're
not
asking
to
do
more
than
what
would
be
allowed
on
this
lot.
If
there
was
no
previous
disturbance
on
it,
so
I
think
that
it's
a
reason.
A
The
only
thing
I
would
say
is
people.
A
Feelings
in
general
about
about
HOAs,
but
speaking
as
a
former
president
of
an
HOA
I,
have
I
give
a
lot
of
credit
to
the
to
the
concept
that
HOAs
have
about
whether
buildings
fit
into
the
entire
Association.
A
G
Mr
chair
just
because
I
don't
know
if
all
members
of
the
board
here
today
have
heard
me
say
this
before,
but
you
are
allowed,
you
are
allowed
to
consider
HOA
covenants
and
your
determinations
there's
case
law
saying
that
is
proper
for
you
to
consider.
I
think
you're
already
doing
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
clearly.