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B
Thank
you
miss
mills
good
afternoon
everybody
how
y'all
doing
I'm
chair
the
asheville
human
relations
commission.
My
name
is
tanya
rodriguez
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
september
16
2021
human
relations
commission.
Virtual
meeting,
we're
coming
to
you
live
from
the
cherokee
homelands
where
the
eastern
band
of
cherokee
indians
remain
a
sovereign
nation.
B
To
this
day,
we
will
now
call
our
meeting
to
order
before
we
start
our
meeting
I'd
like
to
read
off
the
duties
of
the
human
relations
commission
of
asheville,
which
include,
but
are
not
limited
to
make
policy
recommendations
to
city
council
which
promote
and
improve
human
relations
and
advance
equity
in
the
city.
B
B
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
by
dialing,
eight,
five,
five,
nine
two,
five,
two,
eight
zero
one.
Once
again,
the
number
is
eight
five,
five,
nine
two
five:
two:
eight
zero
one
and
entering
meeting
code,
nine,
seven,
two
three
for
those
of
you
who
plan
to
speak
during
our
live
public
comment.
Today,
you
will
need
to
hit
star
3
to
be
put
in
the
speaker,
queue
for
those
of
you
out
there
with
us
today
welcome.
B
I
will
now
go
and
introduce
all
the
commission,
members
and
staff
who
are
participating
virtually
for
our
commission
members.
Please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
click
raise
hand
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen
and
when
recognized
by
me
or
brenda
or
aaron
or
the
city
of
asheville,
please
unmute
your
microphone
and
remember
to
mute
your
phone
after
you
are
done.
Speaking
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello
commissioners,
and
today
we
have
alfred
green
looks.
B
Like
is
not
present.
Ivan
melkor
looks
like
is
not
present.
Tiffany
double,
oh,
is
not
present.
Tonya
rodriguez
present
alex
nava
welcome
present.
Oh
I'm
gonna.
I
just
took
it
away
from
you.
You
go
ahead,
alex
nava.
C
All
right,
thank
you.
My
name
is
alex,
I'm
a
new
member
of
the
board
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
to
serving
the
city
of
asheville,
I'm
new
to
the
city,
and
I
would
like
to
get
involved
as
much
as
I
can.
Thank
you.
B
D
Hi
everybody
good
evening,
thank
you
for
being
here,
miss
campbell.
Thank
you,
commissioner
rodriguez,
for
chairing
the
meeting.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
commissioner,
melanie
noyes
is
unable
to
attend
today,
commissioner,
daniel
young
is
not
present,
commissioner,
emma
nicole
worthy
is
not
present,
and
commissioner
crystal
michelle,
reed
is
not
present.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
deborah
glad
that
you
are
here
and
we're
looking
forward
to
to
all
that
you
bring
to
us
and
to
the
community
of
asheville
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
who
are
listening
in
on
the
phone
I'll
state,
each
of
the
sections
of
the
agenda
out
loud
again.
I
request
that
commissioners
click
raise
hand
and
to
be
recognized
to
speak.
Please
state
your
name
each
time.
B
B
F
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very
much.
Counselor.
Did
everybody
get
a
chance
to
review
today's
agenda?
Let's
take
a
moment
to
review
today's
agenda,
which
is
our
next
item
of
business.
B
Wonderful
next
item
up
of
business
is
new
business.
Welcoming
new
members
to
the
hrca
welcome
commissioner
alex
nava.
We
heard
a
little
bit
of
your
introduction
earlier.
We
would
like
to
invite
you
to
take
a
little
time
to
introduce
yourself
and
what
things
you're
passionate
about
and
what
you
would
like
to
what
you
expect
for
your
hrca
experience.
C
C
B
Welcome
commissioner
nava,
I'm
glad
you're
here
and
we
look
forward
to
your
passion
in
this
commission
and
your
experience.
B
Well,
that
time
has
come
for
city
manager,
deborah
campbell
to
be
in
the
hrca
hot
seat,.
B
It
looks
like
we'll
be
gentle
with
you
today
and
I
did
have
a
few
people
send
me
some
questions
for
you.
So
I
did
ask
a
couple
of
us
just
to
ask
some
a
poignant
questions
for
clarity
and
to
bring
groundedness
to
our
commission
and
and
bridging
the
gap
of
a
misunderstanding
between
what
we're
here
to
do
and
how
we
can
serve
the
city
in
positive
and
impactful
ways.
B
So
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
you.
Our
q,
a
starts
off
with
two
agenda
items,
future
direction
of
hrca
and
how
the
hrca
can
support
the
city
followed
up
with
the
question
and
answer.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
deborah
and
the
mic
is
yours.
G
So
again
good
evening,
and
thank
you
all
for
inviting
me,
as
was
stated,
my
name
is
deborah
campbell
and
I
serve
in
the
role
as
the
city
manager,
city
of
asheville,
and
I've
been
in.
This
position
for
almost
this
december
will
be
three
years
again
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
come
before
this
commission,
and
you
know
it's
interesting
that
you
would
ask
me
about
the
future
direction
of
hrca,
which
I
think
it
should
be
something
that
this
group
needs
to
figure
out
on
its
own
and
how
the
hrca
can
support.
G
The
city
is
actually
doing
that
work
to
figure
out
what
role
the
intention
of
this
commission.
You
know,
I
I
had
the
opportunity
with
some
with
some
help
to
talk
to
staff,
to
look
at
your.
G
I
guess
the
artworks
that
established
this
body,
and
just
just
a
couple
of
observations
are
that
if
you
were
to
try
to
accomplish
all
of
the
things
that
it
has
for
you
in
terms
of
the
duties-
and
I
think,
madam
chairman,
you
identified
those
earlier,
you
would
be
doing
this.
24
7
would
be
all
that
you
could
do,
because
when
I
look
at
the
duties
and
the
scope
of
this
body,
it
is
enormous
and
it
is,
I
think
so
broad
that
it's
hard
for
you
all
to
focus
on.
G
G
I
really
do
think
that
this
group,
because
of
the
enormity
of
the
duties
that
have
been
assigned
to
you
and
the
reference
in
your
mission
statement
about
carrying
out
the
city's
human
relations
program
of
figuring
out
what
that
is,
what
is
the
city's
human
relations
program
and
whether
that
and
your
whether
the
expectation
of
this
commission
is
that
that's
going
to
be
top
down.
That
is
that
you
want
council
or
the
city
manager
the
staff
support
to
tell
you
that.
G
Or
do
you
want
to
tell
us
the
role
that
you
think
you
all
need
to
play,
or
it's
a
combination
a
little
bit
of
both
it's
going
to
be
top
down
and
bottom
up
and
we
meet
somewhere
in
the
middle?
But
what
I
will
say
is
that
we
value
your
time.
G
We
value
the
potential
role
that
this
commission
could
could
play,
but
we
do
have
some
challenges
in
terms
of
defining
what
that
role
is
and
how
it
supports,
complements
of
other
initiatives
and
other
commissions
that
we
have
that
support
the
city
of
asheville
and,
in
short,
we've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
G
G
G
I
guess,
be
a
resource,
be
a
sounding
board
and
be
able
to
respond
in
terms
of
yes.
These
are
real
needs
that
we
have
that
we
feel
a
group
like
this
could
support
in
advance,
and
so
I
guess
my
challenge
to
you
all
is
we
got
to
roll
up
our
sleeves
and
and
we've
gotta
we
gotta
get
to
it,
and
I
think
it
is
something
that
is
gonna
be
somewhat
challenging,
maybe
a
little
time
consuming.
But
I
think
that.
G
G
But
we
need
to.
We
need
to
take
this
walk
together
and.
G
Figure
out,
specifically
the
role,
and
I
will
stop
there
because
I
think
you
all
said
you
had
I'm
on
a
fox
seat
and
hot
seat
is
not
talking
at
you.
It's
it's
trying
to
get.
You
engaged
so
I'll,
stop
there
and
thank
you
again
for
inviting
me
and
also,
let
me
just
quickly
say
I
apologize.
I
think
I
was
invited
to
an
a
meeting
earlier,
but
I
was
I
was
out
of
town
and
wasn't
able
to
attend.
So,
as
your
chair
said,
be
gentle.
B
Thank
you
very
much
deborah.
I
appreciate
what
what
you
do
for
our
city
and
the
you
can
imagine
the
depth
of
scrutiny
of
every
thing.
Every
word
every
every
move,
every
breath.
B
So
thank
you
very
much
for
all
that
you
do
daniel.
We
offered
the
opportunity
to
ask
three
questions
to
deborah
campbell,
so
chris
had
his
hand
up
first,
so
I'm
gonna
have
chris
take
the
lead
so
that
you
can
hear
the
the
process
that
we
had
set
up
for
this
meeting
all
right,
so
chris
go
ahead.
D
Thank
you
tanya.
This
is
chris
weinbrinner.
I've
been
on
the
council
or
the
commission
since
its
inception.
D
My
question
for
you,
ms
campbell,
is
I
I
know
for
a
fact
that
one
of
our
our
mission
goals
is
to
support
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion,
and
we
all
know
that
that
office
has
had
a
challenging
past,
as
evidenced
by
the
by
the
article
in
last
week's
mountain.
Express.
D
G
Thank
you
for
that.
For
that
question
and
the
matter
in
which
you
asked
the
question
chris,
I
will
give
you
just
a
little
bit
of
where
we
are,
and
I'm
sure
probably
brenda,
hopefully
have
given
you
a
status
report,
but
I
will
I'll
probably
be
redundant
repetitive,
but
here's
where
we
are.
G
We
have
one
dedicated
100
person
working
on
the
management
of
the
department
of
equity
and
inclusion,
and
that's
brenda
mills
and
she's
serving
in
the
role
as
an
interim
director
today,
the
director's
position
was
posted
related
to
a
recruitment
process.
For
that
position,
I
believe
last
week
toward
the
end
of
last
week,
the
three
other
positions
that
support
this
department
were
posted
and
advertised
and
brenda
may
have
even
happened
even
earlier
than
that,
but
I
I
know
I
got
information
about
it
last
last
week.
G
So
so
we
are
in
the
process
of
filling
those
positions
and
we
hope
we
can
get
them
filled
as
soon
as
as
possible.
G
The
interview
process
will
be
happening,
particularly
for
the
the
three
positions,
probably
with
the
inner
departmental
team,
and
it
would
be
the
same
for
the
department
director
position.
Probably
so
that's
where
we
are.
G
What
I
will
say
in
general
is
that
when
I
look
at
the
duties
of
the
hrca
and
as
I
said,
they're
extensive
they're,
broad
they're,
so
they
answer
what,
but
they
don't
answer
how
and
I
think
that's
what
we
have
got
to
emphasize
and
you
know
kind
of
think
through.
How
do
you
support
the
city's
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
in
its
duties
and
responsibilities?
G
What
does
that
mean?
What
body
of
work
comes
to
this
commission
from
that
department?
You
know
there
is
no
commission
that
you
know,
impacts
more
administrative
things,
and
so
we
just
got
to
make
sure
that
we
have
some
understanding
of
clarity
about
not
only
just
the
what
but
the
how.
D
Thank
you
for
that
answer.
I
appreciate
the
the
emphasis
and
the
movement
on
on
getting
this
commission
together.
D
It's
often
felt
like
we're
all
on
the
right
side,
rowing
on
the
right
side
of
the
canoe,
so
I
would
I
would
support
any
kind
of
retreat
or
or
what
have
you
to
to
get
us
on
a
path
that
is
one,
that's
a
better
and
more
productive
path.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
G
D
No
I'm
just
using
that
as
number
one.
I've
got
two
more
right.
H
Hey,
how
y'all
doing
sorry
for
being
late
been
working
with
these
kids
and
trying
to
get
this
community
centered
together,
derek?
I
think
this
commission,
I
our
committee,
has
been
doing
everything.
That's
been
asked
asked
of
us
what
to
do
for
the
community.
It's
like,
I
think,
the
that
we
need
the
mayor
and
y'all
to
have
our
back
as
as
well
as
we
and
we
got
as
as
we
got
y'alls
back.
H
H
H
I
mean
until
the
city
see
us
come
together
and
we
doing
what
they
crying
about,
trying
to
lisa
hear
what's
going
on
and
try
to
fix
it.
We're
going
to
continue
to
have
these
little
backdrops
when
people
are
not
showing
up
and
not
supporting
us
because
ain't,
nobody
here
and
they
crash,
I
mean
wha.
What
can
we
do?
What
can
be
done?
I
mean
we
had
these
shooting
and
shallow.
H
I
talked
to
miss
mills
about
that
and
it's
still
no
action
being
done.
It's
like
we
keep
putting
out
one
fight
and
then
another
fight
starts
and
we
try
to
stop
that
and
then
another
one
stops
and
nothing.
Nothing
has
been
done.
H
I
mean
it's
from
that.
It's
from
the
school
system.
A
lot
of
stuff
is
keep
coming
up
after
we
we
solve
one
problem,
it's
another
problem.
What
can
we
do?
I
mean,
as
a
group,
to
show
our
community
that
we
really
want
to
do
what's
right
that
we're
trying
to
do
is
right.
I
mean
we
can
have
all
the
retreats
we
can.
We
can
do
with.
I
mean
if
we're
not
doing
no
action
and
guess
what
the
retreat
is
is
worthless
until
we
start
doing
what
we
got
to
do
for
our
community.
G
G
What
is
the
what
that
we
are
that
we
need
to
do
in
order
to
address
the
concerns
and
the
issues
that
you
talked
about
for
our
community
that
we're
not
doing.
I
would
love
to
hear
more
information
about
that.
Secondly,
I
would
I.
I
would
hope
that
you
would
remember
the
dialogue
that
we
had
around
reimagining
public
safety,
that
public
safety
and
community
safety
is
all
of
our
responsibility
and,
yes,
asheville
police
department
has
a
huge
role,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
violent
crime.
G
You
know
what
we
are
faced
in
terms
of
personnel
shortages-
that's
not
an
excuse,
it
is
just
real
and
that's
not
just
city
of
asheville.
That's
the
entire
nation.
Every
community
is
struggling
with
this.
Every
community
is
struggling
with
increased
crime.
G
G
I
mean
it's,
it's
just
not
a
place
that
they
want
to
live,
do
business
or
anything,
worship
whatever
recreate.
So,
yes,
we've
got
to
get
a
handle
on
that,
but
we
have
got
to
understand.
B
Thank
you
very
much
deborah
campbell
and
commissioner
young.
Those
are
really
powerful,
really
powerful
statements
that
that
are
necessary.
Commissioner
nava
oh
hold
on
hold
on
one
more
commissioner
young.
Do
you
have
any
further
questions,
or
do
you
feel
complete?
Okay?
Not
at
this
moment.
I
don't.
Thank
you,
though.
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
young
commissioner
nava.
C
Thank
you
so
much
chairperson
rodriguez.
Thank
you,
miss
campbell
for
joining
us
today.
This
is
my
first
meeting
with
the
human
relations
board
and
I
can
see
that
there's
a
lot
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done.
I
really
appreciated
your
words
in
defining
the
the
wide
scope
of
the
commission
and
some
of
the
issues
that
are
coming
up.
I
I
see
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done.
C
I
also
think
it's
important
for
us
as
a
commission
to
recognize
the
limitations
of
a
volunteer
run
organization.
I
agree
with
you,
ms
campbell
about
starting
out
small
and
and
working
our
way
up
from
there.
Some
of
the
things
that
I
heard
about
public
safety
that
we
could
potentially
I
have
you
know.
C
Maybe
this
is
something
to
discuss
at
the
at
the
retreat,
but
like
a
listening
forum,
you
know
listening
inviting
community
members
to
come,
speak
on
public
safety,
inviting
community
members
to
brainstorm
on
potential
solutions
or
community
initiatives
that
that
we
can
help
either
channel
or
spark
or
or
support.
So
anyway,
those
are
just
my
my
two
cents
on
some
of
the
topics
that
have
come
up.
C
So
far,
but
my
question
specifically
is
that
before
I
moved
to
the
city,
I
I
was
really
excited
to
read
about
the
lgbtq
plus
nondiscrimination
agreement
that
had
passed
was
very
excited
about
it,
and
it
was
one
of
the
big
reasons
that
I
decided
to
to
move
here
and
I'm
wondering
whether
there's
a
formal
channel
to
handle
these
kinds
of
either
complaints
or
or
investigations
regarding
the
ordinance
or
whether
that's
something
that
that
is
needed.
That
needs
support.
C
G
F
That
is
correct.
Thank
you,
deborah,
commissioner
neva.
I
will
be
providing
a
more
detailed
presentation
on
the
non-discrimination
words
later
in
the
agenda.
But,
yes,
there
is
a
process
in
which
administrative
process
in
which
people
in
the
community
can
file
employment
or
public
accommodation,
complaints
with
the
city
of
asheville.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
nava.
Thank
you
aaron.
Thank
you
debra.
These
are.
These
are
fabulous
questions
so
proud
of
all
of
it
of
everyone
in
here,
commissioner
chandler,
you
have
your
hand
up.
The
mic
is
yours,.
E
Thanks
so
much
chairwoman,
tanya
hi
deborah,
I
am
working
on
a
work
group
for
our
health
disparities
and
have
been
doing
some
research
and
come
across
some
really
disheartening
statistics
really
around
black
mortality
rates,
namely
that
our
our
state
for
the
24.
This
is
2014
to
2018
data
that
that
I
was
looking
at
that's
available
for
our
state
rates.
The
mortality
rate
among
african
non-hispanic
african-american
non-hispanic
was
around
888
per
hundred
thousand,
then
indigenous
and
then
white
non-hispanic
at
777
per
100
000..
E
The
part-
that's
really
hard
to
understand
is
that
for
buncombe
county
for
our
county,
the
same
numbers
are
worse.
The
the
african-american
mortality
rate
per
hundred
thousand
is
996.4
for
african
american
non-hispanic,
then
white
indigenous
get
a
little
break
there
at
754
is
the
next
highest
number
754.9
and
then
indigenous
at
487.
E
That's
the
total
mortality
rate.
It's
broken
down
by
how
people
are
dying,
the
top
ones
for
all
races,
being
cancer
and
heart
disease
and
and
those
are
still
incredibly
disproportionately
affecting
our
african-american
citizens
and
community
members,
even
more
so
in
buncombe
county.
So
my
questions
are
and
I
have
two-part
question
I
apologize
in
advance.
My
questions
are:
what's
the
deal,
is
it
quality
of
care?
Is
it
more
acute
cases
because
of
systemic
racism?
E
I
I
think
that
I'm
getting
into
that.
What
versus
how
that
you're?
Talking
about
and
and
my
questions
are
how
what
recommendations
as
a
commission
can
we
make
that
can
increase
prevention
measures
to
prevent
a
lot
of
these
heart
disease
and
cancer
deaths,
and
the
second
part
of
that
is,
if
you
look
at
the
homicide
rates,
it
is
so
much
worse.
The
the
homicide
rates
for
buncombe
counties-
black
people
is
12.14
higher
than
the
whole
state
for
homicide.
It
is,
let's
see
I
I
just
I.
E
I
could
not
understand
these
numbers
that
not
only
is
like
is
it
higher
in
the
in
the
whole
state,
but
it's
acutely
higher
25
times
higher
than
whites.
In
fact,
the
same
number
of
white
people
and
black
people
were
killed.
23
white
people
and
black
people
were
killed
in
in
this
time
frame,
except
that
represents
a
huge
you
know
with
with
you
know:
seven
percent
african
americans
in
buncombe
county
and
basically
95
white.
E
It
represents
such
a
huge
disportion
of
thing,
and-
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
may
go
to
where
commissioner
young
is
saying
that
people
don't
feel
safe
because
they're
they're,
not
I
mean
the
numbers
are
there
and
I
I
don't
even
know
what
questions
to
ask.
Is
it
a
law
enforcement
issue?
What
else
can
we
do
to
at
least
not
be
embarrassing
with
our
mortality
rates
as
a
community
and.
G
So
that
is
that's
a
big
question
susie.
G
I
wish
that
I
were
able
to
respond
in
a
in
a
much
more
informed
and
succinct
manner,
but
what
I
what
I
will
say,
I
would
again
go
back
to
shared
responsibility,
in
particular,
when
we
talk
about
human
relations
and
when
we
talk
about
the
systemic
reasons
for
violence
or
harm
or
sickness
or
any
of
those
things
oftentimes,
it
starts
in
the
individual's
home
and
then
it
expands
out
into
the
the
community
and
so
for
us
to
address
this
and
again
I
just
keep
going
back
to
community
and
being
a
good.
G
G
G
G
E
I
am
complete
thanks.
Thank
you.
B
Very
much,
commissioner
chandler,
those
are
very
wise
words
deborah.
You
know
it's
easy
to
fall
into
that
trap
of
all
or
nothing.
B
From
hundreds
of
years
of
atrocities
that
all
of
us
in
this
space
carry
in
our
bones
and
and
do
it
in
a
way-
that's
productive,
protective
of
each
other
and
and
constructive
and
restorative,
in
and
and
and
in
integrity.
B
So
thank
you
very
much
for
sharing
that
daniel
young
commissioner
young,
I'm
gonna.
Keep
it
in
question
form.
H
Young,
I
got
a
question
about
the
susan
was
talking
about
the
deaths
in
the
community
and
stuff.
I
think
one
of
our
biggest
problems
in
ashfield,
since
I
I've
been
here
all
my
life
for
one
and
we
we
had
community
centers
that
was
open
for
the
neighborhood
for
our
kids.
H
Now
we
don't
have
that,
and
now
our
kids
are
going
one
way
and
that's
to
the
streets
more
violence,
because
we
don't
have
no
programs
for
our
kids
and
and
that
that
that
was
took
it
away
from
our
city
that
wasn't
took
them
by
away
from
us
by
us.
It
was
down
by
the
management
over
us.
They
took
away
reid
center.
You,
the
moffa
center,
is,
is
no
longer
available
for
our
kids
peers.
Give
you
center,
I
mean
the
centers
that
was
helping
our
community,
showing
our
kids
look.
H
Y'all
took
it
away
from
it's
stripped,
so
I
mean
come
on,
ashley
stopped
being
the
community
when
y'all
stopped
stripping
us
from
the
stuff
that
was
going
right
for
our
community.
Now
you
see
what
what
the
problem
is.
Now
our
kids
are
going
to
the
streets
getting
getting
shown
by
the
drug
dealers
what's
enticed
to
them.
Besides
going
to
basketball
playing
football
with
this
and
that
what
we
did
have
we
don't
have
that
no
more
as
a
black
child
in
ashes.
H
There's
nothing
to
do
the
kids
have
nothing
to
do
you
don't
have
we
don't
have
no
big
brother-sister
programs
for
these
kids.
We
don't
have
nothing
where
these
kids
can
open
up
to
each
other
to
tell
to
talk
to
us
of
what's
going
on,
but
the
school,
and
then
the
schools
is
not
doing,
but
so
much
so
what,
when?
What
are
we
gonna
do
about
addressing
that
opening
up
these
centers?
So
these
kids
can
interact
with
each
other
and
can
have
some
way
they
can
talk
to
each
other.
G
Thank
you,
daniel.
That
was
a
sentiment
that
I
have
heard
a
number
of
times,
particularly
when
I've
met
with
blacks
throughout
the
community.
G
This
past
budget
session
council
past
and
and
forgive
me
if
I
don't
know
the
exact
amount
to
extend
operating
hours
for
recreation
centers,
to
spend
more
money
on
maintenance
of
our
rec
centers
and
parks
and
playgrounds,
and
to
develop
some
type
of
partnership
with
united
way
and
others
so
that
we
can
develop
more
programming
in
our
centers
and
in
our
parks
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
you
you
raised,
the
budget
just
got
passed
in
july.
G
Yes,
we
should
be
much
further
along
and
having
those
conversations
with
the
community,
and
I
will
make
sure
that
I
can
reach
back
out
to
you
with
additional
information
about
where
we
are,
and
I
will
provide
that
information
to
the
rest
of.
If
brenda
will
will
help
me
on
this
one
as
a
follow-up
to
bring
more
information
about
the
status.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
young,
and
thank
you
deborah
for
opening
up
that
very
important
conversation.
That's
necessary
whenever
the
youth
are
left
behind
the
whole
community
is
affected
negatively,
and
how
can
we
open
those
community
centers
to
provide
spaces
for
the
youth
to
have
a
place
to
thrive
and
grow
together
in
powerful
and
healthy
ways?
B
The
youth
today
are
amazing,
they're,
strong,
they're,
they're,
brilliant
they're,
far
beyond
any
anything
that
I
ever
experienced.
When
I
could
remember
being
a
kid-
and
I
think,
if
we're
not
honoring
that
it's
it's,
you
know
we're
destroying
our
community
at
the
most
base
level
and
that's
and
that's
something
we
we
have
the
power
to
affect
change
with
and
how
to
do.
That
is
the
next
step.
B
Questions
from
one
of
our
commissioners
that
was
unable
to
be
here
today.
B
I've
got
three
questions
from
commissioner
develo
and
commissioner
devolo
asks.
Can
an
hrca
representative
join
the
reparations
conversation
as
we
move
forward
as
a
city.
G
We
have
hired-
and
I
think
brenda
may
have
already
given
kind
of
an
update
on
this,
of
where
we
are,
but
we
we're
fortunate
enough
to
have
council
approve
resources
needed
to
hire
the
project
manager,
project
manager,
and
I
and
brenda
will
be
meeting
next
week
to
talk
about
the
selection
process
for
the
commission.
Certainly
anyone
on
this
group
can
apply
to
be
on
that
that
commission,
but
again
we
are
working
through
the
process
for
selecting.
G
As
you
all
know,
I
think
we
are
tentatively
calling
for
about
25
members.
The
majority
of
those
members
will
be
neighborhood
representatives
and
then
have
some
we're
calling
technical
experts,
as
it
relates
to
the
five
focus
areas
that
the
resolution
identifies
that
we
needed
to
address
through
this
process.
B
Thank
you,
debra.
I've
got
two
more
questions,
commissioner
weinberner
and
then
I'll
get
to
your
a
question.
Unless
it's
it's
major
and
you
need
to
ask
it
now.
G
If,
if
I
could,
I
think
I
saw
something
in
chat
about
the
united
way
running
our
centers.
No
sir,
they
were
they're
not
going
to
be
running
our
recreation
centers.
G
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
that
was
in
partnership
with
with
them
on
a
number
of
other
issues
related
to
potentially
getting
partners
to
provide
services
to
our
centers,
not
running
our
centers.
B
Thank
you
for
the
clarity
deborah
a
second
question
from
tiffany.
Can
we,
as
a
city
commission,
spearhead
ongoing
community
conversations
around
reparations
and
its
necessity
to
invest
in
asheville
black
communities.
B
So
I
think
I'm
I
might
shift
the
wording
a
little
bit.
Can
we,
as
the
city
commission,
lead
ongoing
community
conversations
or
inspire
ongoing
community
conversations
around
reparations
and
its
necessity
to
invest
in
asheville
black
communities.
G
So
I
would
suggest
to
you
yes,
as
long
as
it
is
supportive
of
the
process
that
hopefully,
the
project
manager
and
the
commission
agree
upon
going
forward
what
was
presented
as
part
of
the
resolution.
The
resolution
says
the
city
manages
to
come
back
and
recommend
to
the
city
council
a
process
we've
done,
that
we've
recommended
a
process
going
forward.
The
project
manager
and
the
commission
will
be
responsible,
more
responsible
for
how
the
process
moves
forward.
G
So,
yes,
I
think
that
that
will
be
something
that
that
you
know
we
need
to
at
least
give
a
little
bit
more
time
for
the
commission
to
be
formed
and
the
project
manager
to
be
onboarded
so
that
we
can
can
think
through
all
of
those
details
and
potential
roles
for
for
other
groups.
I
I
certainly
think
that
advocacy
is
appropriate
and
I
think
the
purpose
of
the
commission
is
to
highly
focus
and
suggest
that
there
be
investments
in
black
and
brown
communities.
B
Thank
you
very
much
deborah
and
the
last
there's
two
more
questions
from
tiffany
as
the
city
manager.
Would
you
like?
What
would
you
like
to
see
from
the
hrc,
and
I
believe
you
did
address
that
so
I'm
gonna
go
on
to
the
next
question.
B
G
Okay,
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
I
I
need
to
talk
with
our
community
engagement
division
and
because
I
need
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
details
of
some
history
about
what
that
concern
is
so
brenda
that'll
be
one
of
the
follow-up
items
that
I'll
we
can
bring
back.
B
D
Yeah,
thank
you
miss
campbell.
As
far
as
the
upcoming
reparations
project,
I
know
you
said
people
can
apply.
Has
the
city
of
asheville
sought
out
the
collaboration
of
the
local
racial
justice
coalition
and
continuing
this
work?
I
know
that
they
spoke
during
this,
the
speaking
sessions,
that
they
had
that
you
guys
had
at
the
harrah's
cherokee
casino,
and
I
just
wondered
to
what
or
not
sorry,
not
casino,
it's
the
center
right.
I
wondered
just
basically
what
kind
of
collaboration
you
saw
between
the
city
and
the
rjc
going
through
the
process
of
reparations.
G
So
we
actually
did
reach
out
to
them
when
we
were
having
the
information
and
truth
telling
sessions
for
their
assistance
in
terms
of
promoting
and
and
encouraging
participation
in
a
variety
of
of
means
and
ways,
and
in
fact
our
conversations
resulted
in
us
creating
more
opportunities
for
people
to
participate
outside
of
paris.
G
One
of
our
challenges
was
just
technology.
What
what
other
geographies
within
the
community
could
we
go
to
and
really
have
the
opportunity
to
link
back
into
harris
cherokee
center?
So
you
know
they
they
were
very
persistent
and-
and
we
just
we
had
a
little
bit
of
time
to
kind
of
figure
that
technology
out,
but
we
were
able
to
figure
out
at
least
one
site
that
we
could
go
to
to
have
have
some
of
the
dialogue
outside
of
of
harris
going
forward
again.
G
B
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
juan
burner,
and
we
do
bring
policy
recommendations
based
on
community
input.
Commissioner
nava,
we
did
that
with
the
recommendation
for
the
vance
monument
removal
and
for
the
recommendations
for
the
home
houseless
encampment.
B
Non-Clearing
recommendation
that
we
recommended
to
city
council,
councilwoman,
roni.
I
Thank
you
so
much
for
a
moment
to
just
speak
up.
I
value
the
work
and
the
time
that
y'all
give
so
much,
but
anyone
who's
watching
this
meeting
won't
be
able
to
see
the
chat.
I
B
Thank
you
very
much
councilwoman,
so
my
questions.
B
Have
they
come
down
yet
so
for
those
of
you
for
those
of
you
who
may
not
be
familiar
there,
possibly
was
a
set
of
paintings
in
castle
council
chambers
that
depicted
a
very
extremely
racist
point
of
view
of
how
asheville
was
colonized
and-
and
it
was
one
of
the
things
that
I've
made
a
commitment
to
myself
to
do
to
be
a
part
of
in
challenging
those
paintings
being
up
there,
because
not
only
that,
were
they
given
information
based
in
an
inaccurate
rendition
of
history,
it
was
also
offensive
on
multiple
levels
to
go
into
a
room
that
was
to
be
to
be
community
based,
while
supported
by
by
paintings.
B
G
So
the
paintings
are
not
gone,
but
they
are
covered
with
what
we
feel
is
much
more
reflective
of
asheville,
which
are
images
of
our
mountains.
Brenda,
if
you
don't
mind,
because
we
we
took
pictures
of
of
the
chamber
now
in
its
current
state,
so
getting
the
images
back
to
this
group.
G
Since
you
know
we're
not
having
hosting
a
lot
of
meetings
in
in
the
chamber
and
so
forth,
so
we
will.
We
will
bring
back
those
images
to
show
you
how
we've
covered
those
those
those
images
that
there
was
also
because
this
building
is
a
historic
building.
There
literally
are
lots
of
things
that
we
can
and
cannot
do
we
covered.
We,
we
covered
the
payments.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Is
there
movement
to
remove
them,
replace
them
and
and
and
maybe
bring
in
images
that
better
reflect
the
community
of
asheville
and
its
diversity,
as
opposed
to
the
community
in
asheville
and
it's
oppression.
G
Moving
forward,
that
is
exactly
what
we
want
to
do.
This
is
the
best
that
we
could
do
in
the
interim,
considering
the
the
number
of
other
initiatives
that
are
that
are
underway
like
vance
and
replacement
of
defense,
monument
and
so
forth.
But
yes,
we
have.
We
have
we
have
an
interim
fix,
but
going
forward.
That
is
what
we
exactly
what
we
want
to
do.
B
B
Right
all
right,
so
I
this
is
a
really
interesting
question.
It's
more
of
like
a
a
process
question
and
the
process
question
is
in
this
in
the
direction
for
the
hrca.
B
Do
we
see
the
hrca
leaning
into
addressing
policy
and
practices
within
the
halls
of
the
city
that
are
not
based
in
equity,
meaning
we
look
into
policy
and
work
together
with
the
office
in
equity
and
inclusion
to
find
out
what
policy
and
practices
are
not
based
in
equity,
so
that
we
can
make
recommendations
to
city
council
to
to
repair
those
policies
based
in
in
equity
and
oppression.
B
As
we
know,
equity
is
removing
barriers,
and
so
do
you
see
us
as
a
being
a
viable
commission
that
can
work
together
with
an
office
of
equity
and
inclusion,
to
break
down
those
barriers
to
equity
within
the
halls
of
the
city,
or
are
we
mainly
an
advisory
board
that
bridges
the
gap
between
the
community
and
the
city
and
and
that
massive.
B
Void
that
that
prevents
the
community
from
feeling
like
things
are
getting
done
versus
versus
things
actually
happening
in
a
how
based
way.
I
guess
it's
a
two-part
question
so
so.
G
That's
the
the
question
is
challenging
from
the
perspective
of
can
do
we
see
the
hrca
as
an
entity
in
your
role
of
supporting
the
city's
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
working
on
those
types
of
things,
and
what
I
would
suggest
to
you
that
once
we
have
the
office
fully
constituted
in
terms
of
the
hires
that
are
needed,
I
think
that
is
definitely
something
that
the
director
needs
to
think
through
in
terms
of
what
what
what
is
the
you
know
in
addition
to
the
city
manager's
office,
what
is
the
basic
role
of
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion,
and
what
assistance
does
this
department
need
outside
of
the
existing
infrastructure,
human,
our
hr
department,
outside
of
our
existing
infrastructure,
that
a
a
lane
board
could
support
and
help?
G
G
B
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
agree
with
that
and
I
see
that
you
know
the
opportunity
that
we
can.
We
can
be
the
bridge
to
that
gap.
Commissioner
weinberger,
thank
you
deborah.
D
Yeah,
this
is
going
to
be
my
last
question:
miss
campbell
when
we're
talking
about
working
internally
within
the
city
of
asheville
and
its
different
departments.
D
D
How
are
you
going
to
set
things
up,
so
the
new
person
will
not
have
that
same
rocky
path
to
tread
or
can
you
as
a
as
a
city
employee?
Can
you
help
in
that
process.
G
I
want
to
say
unapologetically
and
emphatically
that
from
the
city
manager's
perspective
and
from
the
city
manager's
office
perspective,
we
are
a
hundred
and
ten
percent
supportive
of
equity,
advance
and
equity
and
supporting
inclusion.
G
Again,
it
goes
to
not
so
that's
kind
of
the
what
the
issue
I
think
and
it's
our
challenge
is
the
power:
how
do
we
operationalize
equity
and
inclusion?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
embrace
this?
What
most
people
think
are,
you
know,
is
a
kind
of
a
concept.
I
personally
feel
that
it's
value
that
I
believe
the
action
that
council
took
by
establishing
this
department
means
that
this
is
something
that
they
want
us
to
incorporate
and
execute
in
everything
that
we
we
do.
G
But
how
do
you
do
that?
We
had
a
discussion
around
policies?
That's
definitely
one
of
the
ways
that
we
need
to
to
advance
equity
and
policies
could
could
range
from
personnel
policies
in
terms
of
our
standards
for
hiring
all
the
way
to
do.
You
have
to
go
through
a
petition
process
in
order
to
get
a
sidewalk
in
your
neighborhood.
So
I
I
guess
the
long
and
short
of
of
my
response
will
be
that
it
is
a
priority.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
weinberger.
I
have
one
one
more
question,
just
one
quick,
easy
question
brenda
I
know
next
next
agenda
item
is
coming
up.
It's
it's
right
here.
I
feel
it
just
one
more
question:
debra
and
we'll
we'll
we'll
release
you.
B
From
the
hot
seat
of
the
hrca,
it's
one
question:
two
definitions:
how
do
you
define
equity
and
how
do
you
define
inclusion.
B
Thank
you
very
much
jabra.
I
appreciate
all
that
you
bring
to
the
city
and
for
clarity.
B
We
want
to
maybe
open
up
a
shared
narrative
regarding
equity,
and
so
I
think
that
maybe
we
can
build
on
that
and
we
look
forward.
We
look
forward
to
more
sessions
with
you
here
and
grateful
for
your
presence
and
and
all
that
you
do
for
for
us
and
the
city.
Thank
you
very
much.
Debra
you're,
quite.
G
B
So
so,
next
on
our
agenda
item,
we
do
you
have
a
new
business
regarding
inequitable
race,
neutral
rental
application.
Fee
concerns,
since
we
do
not
have
a
quorum,
was
we'll
go
ahead
and
wait
till
for
our
next
meeting
to
address
that
issue.
B
Next
up
on
our
agenda,
our
staff
updates
on
reparations
process,
project
manager,
contract
approval
and
next
steps
and
aaron
will
be
leading
us
in
our
non-discrimination,
ordinance
process
presentation,
so
brenda
staff
updates
on
reparations
process,
project
manager,
contract
approval
and
next
steps.
A
This
is
brenda
meals,
staff
liaison
hrca.
I'm
going
to
be
brief,
deborah
campbell
mentioned
to
you
that
the
contract
was
approved
on
tuesday
from
city
council.
I
am
putting
together
a
meeting
with
an
internal
city
team
and
the
project
manager
to
look
at
the
process
and
the
timeline,
and
I
will
update
all
of
you,
keep
you
all
updated
as
we
move
along
in
that
process.
A
Keep
in
mind
that
I
know
many
people
want
to
understand
more
about
how
people
can
get
involved.
It
will
be
applying
to
the
commission
so
either
through
we're
going
to
look
at
neighborhoods,
recommending
people
through
neighborhoods
or
and
we're
sharing
the
role
with
the
county
through
the
technical
assistance
in
the
five
areas.
So
that's
my
presentation.
I
want
to
give
a
few
more
time
for
aaron
to
go
over
the
non-discrimination
ordinance
since
we're
a
little
a
little
low
on
time.
A
I
will
add
a
link
to
the
resource
page,
so
you
will
have
that
with
the
all
the
information
on
that
contract
and
everything
so
you'll
have
that
for
the
future.
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
aaron.
Would
you
like
to
lead
us
in
the
non-discrimination,
ordinance
process,
presentation.
F
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
commissioners,
for
having
me
here
tonight.
I
will
be
providing
a
overview
of
the
asheville's
non-information
ordinance
and
I
believe
brenda's
gonna
run
my
slides
for
me.
So
thank
you
brenda
for
doing
that.
As,
as
you
all
know,
the
city
of
asheville
did
adopt
a
non-discrimination
ordinance
in
march
of
this
year.
2021
it
went
into
effect
on
july
1st
of
2021.
F
F
It
prohibits
discrimination
and
both
public
accommodation
and
employment.
The
protected
classes
are
listed
here
for
for
you,
it
does
also
mention
housing.
However,
the
city
of
actual
will
not
be
investigating
any
housing
complaints.
What
our
role
will
be
is
to
provide
assistance
to
those
citizens
who
have
any
complaints
with
housing
discrimination
and
help
them
by
contacting
the
north
carolina
human
relations
commission
and
helping
them
file
file.
Complaints
in
that
way.
F
With
the
with
housing
we
did
in
within
the
ordinance,
the
city
does
make
two
important
interpretations,
one
that
interprets
prohibition
on
sex
discrimination
and
housing
to
include
discrimination
on
the
basis
of
sexual
orientation
and
gender
identity,
as
well
as
the
prohibition
on
racial
discrimination
and
housing
to
include
explanation
on
the
basis
of
natural
hair
or
hairstyles
next
slide.
F
In
regards
to
enforcement
measures,
the
office
of
equity
inclusion
will
be
the
primary
contact
for
citizens
who
have
any
complaints
on
what
on
against
the
non-discrimination
ordinance
on
whether
there
is
a
discriminating
practice
that
is
ongoing,
has
occurred
or
is
going
to
occur.
F
There
is
on
the
equity
inclusion
website.
There
is
an
opportunity
to
file
a
complaint
via
a
online
form.
The
complaint
can
also
be
filled
out
and
mailed
or
dropped
off
in
person
with
the
office.
Once
the
office
receives
a
complaint,
they
will
contact
the
respondent
or
the
person
who
person
or
entity
in
which
the
complaint
is
against
and
inform
them
that
there,
in
fact,
was
a
complaint
that
entity
or
person
will
have
10
days
from
receipt
of
that
notification
to
file
an
answer
with
the
office
of
equity.
F
Inclusion
that
office
will
will
be
conducting
any
investigation
that
includes
contacting
any
entities
or
persons
with
questions
any
or
any
information
that
may
be
needed
to
further
investigate
with
support
from
the
legal
department
myself.
F
During
the
investigation,
a
voluntary
resolution
can
occur
that
meaning
that
if
the
respondent
and
the
complainant
have
the
opportunity
to
have
a
conversation
and
come
to
some
sort
of
voluntary
resolution,
the
hope
is
that
majority
of
complaints
will
end
in
some
sort
of
voluntary
resolution
and
that
no
violations
or
citations
will
have
to
be
issued
by
the
city.
However,
that
is
those
that
recourse
is
available
if
voluntary
resolution
is
not
reached,
and
that
will
the
next.
F
F
There
is
a
form
for
a
complaint,
a
form
for
an
answer,
as
well
as
a
form
for
amending
either
complaint
or
an
answer,
as
well
as
the
contact
information
for
the
human
with
northland
human
relations
commission,
where
any
housing
complaints
that
are
received
to
the
city
will
be
forwarded
with
assistance
from
the
office
of
equipment,
inclusion,
and
that
will
conclude
my
presentation.
Are
there
any
questions
from
commissioners.
B
What
is
yes,
thank
you
very
much
aaron.
What
is
what,
if
the
complaint
is
against
a
city
process
or
practice,
how?
How
will
you
address
the
city
investigating
itself.
F
F
There
is
a
way
for
citizens
for
staff
if
they
have
complaints
against
the
city.
There's
a
process
already
set
up
internally
for
staff
to
handle
internal
complaints.
This
and
I
may
need
to
lean
on
brad
just
a
little
bit
there,
because
I'm
I
I'm
not
really
sure.
If
I'm
understanding
the
question
fully
or.
J
J
If
that
were
the
case,
there
is
a
process
by
which
we
have
a
complaint
system
that
can
be
filed
that
is
investigated
in
compliance
with
state
law.
Now
that
is,
generally
speaking,
a
process
which
is
confidential,
and
it's
not
because
the
city
determines
it's
confidential.
It's
because
state
law
requires
that
those
sorts
of
personnel
matters
have
to
remain
confidential.
J
The
short
answer
to
this
is
that
it
really
depends
on
the
type
of
claim
being
made.
It
could
be
anything
from
someone
who
is
a
city
employee
and,
if
that's
the
case,
if
they
feel
like
they've,
been
discriminated
against,
we
have
an
internal
process
by
which
they
can
file
a
claim
for
discrimination,
as
well
as
a
civil
service
board
which
hears
those
matters.
If
it's
an
external
person,
it
depends
somewhat
on
the
department
that
they
would
be
alleging.
J
Those
actions
took
place
or
if
it's
a
practice,
I
would
advise
anybody
who
feels
as
if
they
have
a
complaint
or
grounds
for
discrimination
to
contact
the
city,
and
I
would
even
say
that
you
can
contact
the
city
attorney's
office
directly.
We
are
more
than
happy
to
receive
those
complaints
and
to
communicate
with
those
individuals
and
look
into
the
matter
thoroughly.
B
Wonderful,
it
does.
The
city
have
an
option.
B
Commissioner
yeah
thank
you,
does
the
does
the
residents
of
asheville
have?
Can
they
come
to
us
the
hrca,
with
these
complaints
that
we
can
take
to
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
for
further
investigation
to
work
together
in
that
way
collaboratively
if
they
do
not
feel
safe
going
to
the
city
and
instead
going
to
an
advisory
board?
That
is
an
independent
board.
B
That's
not
a
civil
service
board
or
doesn't
really
have
you
know
that
works
in
collaboration
with
the
city
and
is
not
viewed
as
being
in
service
to
how
do
I
say
this
eloquently
x,
y
z,.
J
First
of
all,
let
me
answer
the
question
and
say
absolutely:
this
is
a
body
that
was
formed
with
the
sole
purpose
being
to
foster
the
kind
of
equity,
inclusion
and
human
relations
throughout
the
community,
specifically
as
a
liaison
to
the
city
council,
and
there
is
a
certain
amount
of
separation
between
this
body
and
the
city.
None
of
you
are
city
employees.
J
You
have
been
set
up
and
empowered
by
the
city
to
do
those
very
things,
and
I
would
suggest
that
this
is
an
excellent
forum,
but
even
further
to
say
that
if
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
this
body
would
like
to
dive
deeper
into
and
set
up
a
more
formal
process,
please
explore
that
at
your
retreat
and
as
you
go
forward
and
further
define
your
role
for
the
city
and
within
the
community.
B
Wonderful,
thank
you.
Erin.
Is
it
possible
for
us
to
get
a
copy
of
that
complaints
process
so
that
we
can
better
understand
the
process
of
that
and
have
input
in
in
that
so
that
we
can
move
forward
together.
F
Yes,
the
the
I
can
provide,
I
believe
the
presentation
is
included
in
your
packet
as
well.
The
complaint
process
is
identified
on
the
equity
inclusion
website
under
the
non-discrimination
ordinance,
and
it
has
it's
it's
listed
in
question
form
as
to
what
do
I
need
to
do.
If
I
have
a
complaint,
what
do
I
need
to
do
if
I
receive
a
complaint,
and
what
do
I
need
to
do
if
I
need
to
amend
or
amend
a
complaint
or
amend
and
answer.
B
One
wonderful
thank
you
aaron
thank
you,
brad
alex
commissioner
nava
and
then
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
next
agenda
item
for
our
working
group
updates.
C
Thank
you
so
much
aaron
for
the
presentation.
So
my
question
is:
if
there's
no
voluntary
resolution
agreed
on
and
the
city
decides
to
move
on
with
a
citation
or
a
violation,
is
that
is
that,
based
on
on
city
law?
Does
it
does
it
get
escalated
further
beyond
that,
or
I'm
just
wondering
I'm
wondering
like
what?
What
are
the
sort
of
the
teeth
to
the
to
the
the
process.
F
So
if
there's
no
voluntary
resolution,
a
violation
can
be
issued
as
well
as
a
citation,
and
these
ordinance
identifies
a
hundred
dollar
civil
penalty,
the
city.
So
this
is
a
city
ordinance.
However,
it
does
not
negate
the
availability
of
both
state
and
federal
opportunities
for
those
who
feel
as
if
they
have
been
wrong
that
are
still
available
to
any
citizen
outside
of
the
actions
that
can
be
taken
by
the
city
of
asheville.
I
But
I
I
wanted
to
open
the
door
for
some
more
understanding
around
this,
as
as
we're
looking
at
these
ndo
or
non-discrimination
ordinances
across
the
state
and
the
cities
that
have
passed
them
at
different
levels.
Maybe
brad
or
aaron
could
speak
to
this
as
it
is
a
civil
violation,
not
a
criminal
violation
that
was
chosen
on
purpose.
I
The
goal
is
to
get
people
to
choose
and
then
to
pressure
firmly
into
right
relationship,
as
close
as
we
possibly
can
without
creating
a
criminal
incident.
Additionally,
this
is
the
floor
of
the
expectation,
not
the
ceiling,
so
the
state
and
federal
guidelines
may
go
farther
on
some
parts
than
the
city,
but
we
are
not
going
to
preempt
federal
or
state
regulations
is.
Am
I
being
clear
on
that
staff.
J
I
think
that
was
well
said:
councilman
rooney,
let
me
say
that
this
is
something
that
is
in
addition
to
the
laws
and
the
options
that
were
already
out
there,
but
we
felt
that
that
was
not
only
insufficient,
but
we
wanted
to
make
it
very
clear
where
asheville
as
a
city
stood
on
these
issues
and
passed,
something
that
was
both
symbolic
and
also
meaningful
towards
gaining
the
kind
of
equitable
treatment
that
we
expect
for
everyone
here,
our
residents
and
visitors
alike,
and
we
tried
to
provide
penalties.
J
That
does
not
add
to
the
criminalization
as
council
president
rony
mentioned,
but
provides
a
mechanism
by
which
we
are
trying
to
first
and
foremost
educate
people
to
persuade
them
towards
the
kind
of
behavior.
So
this
is
not
purely
punitive,
but
we
reserve
to
ourselves
the
rights
to
impose
fines
and
additional
legal
options
if
it
becomes
necessary.
B
B
Young,
please:
we've
got
five
minutes
left
and
we've
got
a
working
group
update.
Can
you
hold
off
on
your
question
so
that
we
can
do
the
working
group
update
and
then
we'll
get
back
to
your
question.
H
Well,
the
question
is
containing
to
the
racism
policies
that
y'all
was
addressing.
B
F
B
On
your
question,
commissioner,
young,
please
thank
you,
susie
chandler,
commissioner
chandler.
If
you
can
bring
us
up
to
date
on
your
working
group
in
three
minutes
or
less.
E
That
I
can
do
because
I
shared
a
lot
of
the
findings
in
my
question
with
our
our
city
manager,
mostly
the
the
staggering
statistics,
with
the
black
mortality
rates.
E
We
also,
I
spoke
with
a
with
a
fletcher
tove,
our
buncombe
county
emergency
operations,
manager
about
the
code,
vaccination
rates
and
found
that
the
the
the
county
is
primarily
focused
on
white
males
and
somewhat
females
between
20
to
50
that
are
lagging
in
vaccination
rates,
that
the
the
sites
that
have
been
set
up
at
eddington
center
and
other
community
places
were
effective
and
getting
vaccination
for
our
our
non-white
populations.
E
If
you
will,
let's
see
we
are
also,
we
are
continuing
to
pursue
the
research
on
the
racial
health
disparities
as
far
as
like
long-term
care
access
to
health
insurance.
Things
like
that,
and
then
I
have
on
the
pandemic
impact
on
health
issues.
Let's
see
the
information
that
we
have
updating,
that
is
around
the
higher
mortality
rates
because
of
higher
co-morbidity
rates
among
black
citizens.
E
The
it
was
also
found
to
be
a
higher
impactful
around
employment
and
unemployment
want
one
and
then
also
around
the
disproportional
representation
of
non-white
citizens
in
essential
work,
job
work,
essential
worker
roles
that
were
increasing
them,
increasing
exposure
to
illness,
which
had
greater
impacts.
It
goes
on.
There
were
several
recommendations
on
what
we
can
do
to
promote
health
equity,
that
I
can
say
for
another
time,
as
the
work
group
is
figuring
out
what
recommendations
we
want
to
make
based
on
this
information.
Essentially,
we
know
that
we
face
significant
challenges.
E
I
was
not
aware
that
buncombe
county
was
worse
than
the
whole
of
the
state
when
it
came
to
black
mortality
rates.
That
was
really
shocking
to
me
and
it
feels
like
there
needs
to
be
more
information
available
to
the
public
either
through.
You
know,
like
news
media
things
like
that,
and
our
work
group
will
continue
to
figure
out
how
to
use
that
information
to
pressure
change
and
addressing
the
fact
that,
as
a
county
as
an
area,
we
are
higher
than
the
state
in
our
disproportionate
and
effect
of
black
mortality.
B
The
information
is
horrible,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
doing
the
work
to
get
that
information
to
the
ears
that
need
to
hear
it.
Moving
on
to
our
next,
our
next
item
of
business,
community
announcements:
are
there
any
community
announcements.
A
Madam
chair,
this
is
brenda
measure
liaison
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
you,
please
forgive
me,
but
you
skipped
the
unfinished
business
on
the
retreat
discussion
so
because
we're
a
little
short
on
time.
I
was
hoping
that
maybe
yourself,
myself.
J
A
As
chair
myself
and
aaron
miles
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
that
retreat
would
look
like.
We
could
get
that
information
to
the
board
members
sometime,
maybe
in
the
next
week,
and
see
if
there's
any
other
things
that
they
would
like
to
discuss.
I
do
need,
however,
for
us
to
figure
out.
Is
that
retreat
at
your
next
meeting
with
additional
time,
or
is
that
another
date?
So
we
do
need
to
decide
that.
B
I
Is
it
possible
that
that
could
be
done
because
there's
a
lack
of
deliberation
it
with
a
doodle
poll
to
see
if
folks
are
available
on
another
day.
B
I
don't
see
why
not,
I
believe
a
doodle
poll
is
not
considered
a
vote
as
per
sunshine
laws,
and
we
can
definitely
figure
something
like
that
out.
Maybe
throw
out
three
different
days
and
suggestions
with.
A
Let
me
just
say
for
a
point
of
order:
do
you
want
a
different
date
or
are
we
staying
with
the
day?
I
I've
just
never
understood.
Is
that
a
sec,
so
we
need
to
figure
that
out
first,
if
it's
a
separate
date.
Yes,
I'm
fine
with
the
doodle
poll.
If
it's
not,
are
we
extending
the
time
that
you're
meeting
like
maybe
we
meet
at
5,
00
or
4
30.?
So
we
just
need
to
decide
that,
because
this
is
the
meeting,
that's
already
on
your
schedule,.
B
I
think
we
can
definitely
address
that
in
a
doodle
poll
as
well
to
have
that
option,
whether
or
not
we
are
doing
the
same
day
or
and
what
what
those
times
look
like.
It's
just
to
give
the
people
that
aren't
here
an
opportunity
to.
B
To
have
a
voice
in
the
decision
of
when
our
retreat
day
is,
I
believe
we
tentatively
decided
to
have
the
retreat
before
the
meeting
last
time
we
met,
and
that
was
a
tentative
decision,
and
so
we
can
definitely
make
that
concrete
through
email
to
finalize
what
that
looks
like
and
then
let
everybody
know
let
the
public
know
what,
when
our
retreat
is.
B
All
right
just
to
round
up
the
meeting,
commissioner
young,
would
you
did
you
have
something
to
address.
H
Yes,
I
do.
I
was
speaking
out
about
the
racism
stuff
and
my
biggest
problem.
I
think,
for
the
black
community
is
the
racism.
That's
in
these
courtrooms
with
this
court
system.
I
think
that
need
to
be
addressed
immediately.
I
mean
we
got
these
judges
in
there
that
don't
give
a
damn
about
the
black
community.
H
Lock
you
up
for
the
littlest
things,
no
compassion,
no,
nothing.
I
think
that
need
to
be
addressed
as
well.
Besides
the
other
stuff,
I
think
for
me,
that's
what
that's
what
we're
dealing
with.
I
mean
you,
the
judges.
They
talk,
talk
talk
to
us
like,
like
we
don't
mean
nothing,
you
can
be
coming
in
there
late.
Are
you
just
coming
in
there
for
a
traffic
stop
and
they
looking
at
you
like
you,
the
killer,
then
we
turn
around
the
d.a
and
the
judges.
H
They
they
let
the
judges
off
of
stuff
that
they
should
be
pinning
them
against
the
wall.
For
so
I
mean
what
was
it?
What
what's
gonna
be
done
about
this
I
mean
this.
Is
it's
been
ongoing
for
day
one?
It
ain't
been
stopped,
so
I
mean
we're.
Gonna
fix
some
of
the
little
stuff,
this
small
racism.
What
about
the
big
stuff
that
continue
to
go
on?
B
You
know
that
is
real
talk,
so
I
would
like
to
invite
the
opportunity
to
to
investigate
that
a
little
bit
further
and
maybe
even
a
lot
of
it
further,
so
that
we
can
look
at
the
city
from
a
holistic
point
of
view
and
then
maybe
invite
brad
and
aaron
into
the
conversation
to
find
out
what
you
know,
how
how
we
can
affect
that
change
in
in
our
local
courts
to
protect
the
communities
of
color
in
actual
the
indigenous
black
and
racialized
communities.
Here
in
asheville.
B
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
in
commissioner
nava.
C
C
Going
back
on
the
topic
of
the
retreat,
I'm
wondering
whether
we
can
just
decide
now
to
have
it
the
same
day
or
a
different
day.
Given
the
people
who
have
showed
up
today
are
interested
in
probably
attending.
B
We
like
to
lead
with
equity,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
all
voices
are
important
and
heard
and
honored,
and
even
the
smallest
things
like
deciding
when
a
retreat
is
it's
important
to
lead
with
that
example,
not
only
for
us,
but
also
for
the
community
that
we're
in
so
we'll
we'll
make
sure
that
it
happens,
and
thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
your
urgency.
B
And
and
passion
I
get
it
so.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
in
do
next
item
up
for
business
are
community
announcements
there
any
community
announcements.
This
should
be
events
and
other
engagements
of
interest
to
the
hrca
in
the
city
of
asheville.
H
We
got
a
community
of
say,
serve
the
25th
for
next
week
we
got
20
people
of
the
community,
that's
that's
doing
the
class.
If
anybody
can
help
us
get
some
coat,
I
mean
rapid
testers
for
the
community,
so
we
don't
have
no
outbreak,
we
need
them.
We
need
about
20.
H
immediately.
I
don't
know
I
reached
out
to
susie
about
it.
She
didn't
have
enough.
We
do
need
it
if
anybody
can
help
out.
Thank
you.
If
anybody
can
come
and
take
part
of
it's
on
the
saturday
from
11
to
4
o'clock,
just
come
out
and
support,
the
community
show
the
community
that
we
are
there
for
them.
They
taking
them.
H
A
B
Thank
you,
brenda
all
right
motion
to
adjourn
moved.
Second,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner
chandler.
Thank
you,
commissioner
weinbrenner,
and
thank
you
to
the
residents
of
asheville
brenda
mills,
councilwoman
roni
city
attorney,
brad
and
assistant
city
attorney,
aaron
and
deborah
campbell
for
being
here
tonight.
Welcome
to
the
hrca
commissioner
nava,
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
you
next
month.
Take
it
easy
and
be
kind
to
each
other,
see
you
soon.