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B
You
amy
good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
the
august
24
2022
city
of
asheville,
multimodal
transportation
commission
meeting.
My
name
is
dennis
wenzel
and
I'm
the
chair
of
this
group.
Our
meetings
continue
to
be
held
virtually,
but
there
are
many
ways
for
interested
parties
to
participate
in
this
gathering.
B
The
city
of
asheville
engagement
hub,
which
includes
a
variety
of
links
and
phone
numbers,
can
be
found
on
the
multimodal
transportation
commission
page
of
the
city
of
asheville's
website
visiting
this
page
is
the
best
way
for
you
to
take
part
in
our
virtual
meetings,
members,
staff
and
guests.
Please
remember
to
keep
your
microphones
muted
at
all
times
when
you're,
not
speaking,
so
we
can
minimize
minimize
feedback
and
other
background
noise.
B
D
B
E
Hi,
I'm
at
large
and
I,
although
my
husband,
is
an
avid
bicyclist
and
we
and
I'm
so
glad
we're
doing
a
remote
meeting
penny
pat.
D
B
Okay,
see
we
were
with
maggie.
B
H
You
bill
lopez.
A
G
B
Joe
joe
archibald
with
plenty
of
zoning
was
unable
to
join
us
today,
he'll
be
with
us
next
month.
Elizabeth
lycus.
B
Hey
elizabeth
and
kim
rooney
kim
has
a
new
schedule
with
her
teaching
this
seminar,
this
semester
and,
unfortunately,
we'll
not
be
able
to
make
our
meetings,
but
she
will
be
checking
in
through
our
video
calls,
so
we
can
still
communicate
with
her
that
way
and
always
reach
out
to
her
directly.
B
Okay.
The
first
order
of
business
is
to
review
and
approve
today's
agenda
from
august
24
2022.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
B
Thank
you
we'll
go
through
it.
Randy
warren.
C
B
B
A
B
A
B
Hi
and
I'm,
and
I
as
well
motion
carries
next
item-
is
to
review
and
approve
our
minutes
from
the
july
27
2022
meeting.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
D
B
E
I
D
B
D
H
Everybody
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
ken
putnam,
I'm
the
director
of
the
transportation
department.
In
your
package.
You
got
a
an
updated
memo
about
the
I-26
connector
project,
I'll
just
go
over
some
of
the
highlights
and
be
able
to
try
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
one
of
the
things
that
I'll
say
at
the
outset.
You've
probably
heard
that
well.
H
Draft
state
transportation
improvement
program
out
for
review
and
the
first
version
of
that
document
affected
some.
G
H
Projects
in
a
negative
way,
but
before
the
state
legislature
approved
the
budget,
they
were
able
to
find
some
more
money.
So
for
the
very
first
time
in
the
history
of
the
state
of
north
carolina,
sales
tax
is
now
used
for
the
the
highway
fund
and
it's
they've
got
its
stagger.
That
starts
out
at
two
percent
a
year
and
then
by
the
year
2025
it
will
be
six
percent
a
year
that
has
to
be
transferred
over,
so
that
gave
them
extra
money.
H
So
at
least
two
of
the
projects
that
were
impacted
for
our
area
or
back
in
the
document.
But
what
I'm
saying
about
all
that
is
the
ice.
26
connector
project
was
not
affected
by
that
at
least
now.
So
it's
still
on
its
schedule,
so
the
biggest
milestone
coming
up
ahead
of
us
is
called
the
record
of
decision.
H
Then
I've
got
a
schedule
here
for
the
different
parts
of
the
project.
There's
essentially
there's
a
there's
a
I
25
13,
a
a
b,
a
c
and
a
d,
and
then
the
a
has
several
little
parts,
but
the
one
that's
moving
forward
faster
is
the
the
25.
G
H
This
project
is
going
to
be
let
this
section
is
going
to
be
lit
under
the
traditional
leading
schedules
that
they
do
and
the
other
three
bc
and
d.
You
see,
it's
got
a
d,
slash
b,
that's
design
build
those
will
be
let
design
build
as
far
as
the
a
the
I-2513ac
city
council
approved
or
approved
a
funding
letter
of
commitment
that
went
to
the
ncdot
regarding
the
city's
betterment
costs
and
the
aesthetics
treatments
for
that
project.
H
That
was
a
total
cost
of
about
660
thousand
dollars
that
was
done
on
may
24th,
and
we've
already
sent
the
letter
to
the
dlt
on
that
and
there'll
be
a
more
formalized
agreement
that
we'll
have
to
entertain
and
approve
later
on
now
the
money
itself
does
not
have
to
be
turned
into
them.
I
think
we
have
like
a
six
year
period
after
it
goes
to
construction,
so
I'll
pause
there
and
see.
H
If
there's
any
questions,
oh
and
by
the
way,
their
state
of
committee,
they
continue
to
meet
on
a
monthly
basis
and
most
of
their
work
now
is
concentrated
on
the
recommendations
for
i2513,
b
and
d.
E
H
That
is,
I
mentioned
the
state,
transportation,
improvement
program
or
stip.
That's
the
project
number!
That's
in
that
document
I-2513!
That's
the
I-26
connector
project,
okay,
but
that's
a
very
quick,
very
good
question.
C
H
That's
that's
a
good
way
to
summarize
it.
Yes,
the
the
betterments,
the
betterments
are
things
like
wider
sidewalks
than
the
standard,
wider
transportation,
improvement
of
the
multi-use
transportation
path
or
the
greenway.
H
For
example,
the
dlt
their
standard
width
is
10
feet,
so
our
betterment
cost
is
to
make
them
14
feet,
and
so
in
the
sidewalks
you
know
are
typically
five
and
and
so
forth,
and
if
we
need
a
wider
sidewalk
like
six
or
whatever,
then
we're
paying
that
extra
cost
and
then
the
aesthetic
treatments
they're
the
they're,
the
treatments
that
the
the
aesthetics
committee
has
recommended.
So
there's
two
different
two
different
categories
of
treatments
that
we're
paying
for.
C
You
know:
are
there
anything
that
we've
agreed
to
and
are
starting
to
pay
for
that?
It
seems
like
there's
always
changes
these
things,
and
sometimes
we
end
up
losing
things
that
we
thought
we
were
going
to
get
and
then
once
it's
built,
we're
like
hey
what
happened
to
that
multi-use
trailer
was
supposed
to
be
here
and
they
say:
oh,
they
moved
the
highway
12
feet
until
that
lost.
That
is
there
anything
that
we
know
of
that's
being
not
being
delivered
that
we
originally
thought
would
be
getting.
H
No,
that
randy
that's
a
good
question,
but
no,
no,
there's
not,
and
when
we
get
into
the
design,
build
process
of
that.
Whoever
is
the
successful
winner
of
that
project.
They
cannot
make
that
kind
of
major
change
unless
they
get
the
approval
from
the
d.o.t
and,
in
our
case
the
city
of
asheville
as
well.
H
So
those
elements
like
you're
talking
about
the
example
you
gave
they're
they're
solid.
C
H
Well,
we
haven't
really
got
to
that
point
yet
officially,
but
yes,
I
it
wouldn't
surprise
me
if
the
aesthetic
committee
might
be
that
body,
but
city
council
will
probably
have
to
take
action
to
do
that.
So
we
we
haven't,
got
there
yet.
H
C
C
B
A
Put
my
hand
down
I've
been
a
couple
folks
from
the
aesthetics
committee
have
chatted
with
me
about
their
eagerness
to
ensure
that
we
do
some
thoughtful
planning
on
how
the
connector
connects
into
our
downtown
through
haywood,
road
and
they're.
It
sounds
like
they're
advocating
for
a
specific
corridor
plan
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
planning
strategy
in
place
before
dot
gets
too
far
into
execution.
H
H
H
The
total
amount
of
that
will
be
the
the
grant
itself
is
220
000
and
the
local
match
we
need
to
come
up
with
is
44.,
I'm
working
on
the
local
match
right
now,
and
I
have
a
meeting
set
up
on
monday
with
with
the
budget
team
to
see
if
we
can
identify
that
we've
already
got
the
staff
report
written
and
if,
if
everything,
if
all
the
pieces
could
come
in
we're
hoping
to
make
the
september
13th
city
council
meeting
for
the
appropriate
budget
amendment,
the
dot
was
at
the
table
with
us
when
we
defined
the
scope
of
this
corridor
planning
study
and,
of
course,
we
we
had
to
give
and
take
on
some
of
the
items,
because
one
of
the
things
they
have
said
very
clearly
is
there's.
B
H
The
process
there's
already
a
group
of
internal
city
staff
members
in
the
planning
department
and
even
some
from
the
transportation
department
that
are
having
regular
meetings
already
trying
to
get
things
lined
up
so
that
once
we
get
this
local
match
approved,
then
they
can
rush.
I
hate
to
use
the
word
rush,
but
very
quickly
get
it
out
on
the
street
so
that
we
can
pick
that
consultant,
whoever
it's
going
to
be.
A
And
so
this
will
be
a
quarter
study
which
will
really
help
plan
the
integration
of
this
big
highway
infrastructure
into
our
downtown
heart
and
some,
I
feel
like
the
concern
that
they
were.
Having
is
that
the
footprint
that
dot
is
planning
doesn't
merge
into
like
a
downtown
use
super
well.
But
what
I'm
hearing
is
that,
like
the
width
essentially
and
then
the
this
is
where
I'm
going
to
be
out
on
a
limb
on
technical
language,
back
of
the
width
that
is
already
set
in
stone
from
d.o.t.
H
K
I
think,
in
this
context,
like
what
ken
is
saying
is
like
we
can't.
We
can't
change
where
the
road
crossed
it
like,
where
the
bridge
crosses
the
river,
where
the
road
connects
like
the
footprint
from
the
sense
of
it
can't
be
like
shifted
drastically
north
or
south,
or
anything
like
that.
But
you
know
I
think,
there's
still
opportunity
to
talk
about
what
does
the
cross-section
look
like
and
the
width
of
the
actual
roadway
they
just
don't
want
us
to
like
move
anything
around
yeah.
A
Like
that
again,
yeah
got
it
okay,
so
this
corridor
study
really
is
the
ideal
outcome
that
that
committee
was
hoping
for.
That's
awesome.
Thank
you
for
working
so
quickly
to
be
responsive
and,
I
think
it'll
their
insight
that
we
don't
want
two
uses
coming
together
on
a
razor,
thin
margin.
We
want
to
integrate
coming
from
the
highway,
welcoming
folks
into
that
town,
and
thinking
about
that
thoughtfully
does
sound
really
wise.
So
I'm
really
excited
that
you
all
been
able
to
hustle
to
pursue
the
match.
H
And
maggie
the
other
thing,
too,
is
this.
This
study
may
identify
some
of
the
cross
streets.
That
could
happen
at
a
later
date.
Won't
be
part
of
this
project
at
all,
but
it
would
give
us
the
framework,
then,
for
a
future
project
that
the
the
city
could
pursue
funding
and
possibly
even
with
the
d.o.t,
but
you
know
like
a
cross
connection
north
and
south
compared
to
east
and
west.
That
kind
of
thing
would
be
identified
in
this
thing
as
well.
H
G
Hi
everybody.
This
is
going
to
be
a
very
quick
and
informal
presentation
on
asheville
on
pave
just
to
give
you
what
we've
been
working
on
in
the
last
couple
of
months.
I'd
say:
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
really
quick
to
let
you
know
if
you
want
the
best
information,
that's
out
there
right
now,
you
can
go
to
one
of
our
partners.
G
Webpages
asheville
unpaved
has
an
ex
informational
page
on
what
asheville
unpaved
is
and
also
shows
the
maps
and
the
locations
of
them,
but
in
a
nutshell,
the
city
of
asheville
became
involved
with
natural
surface
trails,
because
we
have
heard
for
many
years
now
that
people
were
interested
in
seeing
natural
surface
trails
as
part
of
the
greenway
program
to
create
connections
quicker
and
also
to
provide
more
types
of
recreational
facilities
for
hiking,
running
and
biking
on
natural
surface
trails.
G
G
G
One
is
where
the
bakote
branch
greenway
will
go
in
the
future,
but
it
is
near
aston
park
the
ywca
and
it
is
in
the
backyard
of
the
asheville
middle
school,
which
is
great
because
we
have
a
really
active
after
school
program
there
that
asheville
on
bikes
works
with
them
on
so
it'd
be
great
opportunity
there.
G
G
So
we've
identified
these
things
we've
spent
over
a
year
creating
our
agreements
with
our
partnerships.
That's
you
know
all
legal
mumbo
jumbo,
but
we
we're
getting
through.
G
All
of
that,
I'm
I'm
just
scrolling
through
the
website
without
even
thinking,
so
I'm
going
to
stop
for
a
second
and
just
let
you
know
that
if
you're
ever
interested
in
knowing
more
just
google
ashville
unpaved
you'll
get
to
this
website
and
you
can
find
out
all
you
want,
but
to
finish
my
explanation
of
where
we're
at
right
now
we
have
come
to
agreements
on
how
we
will
be
partnering
with
the
types
of
agreements
and
memorandums
that
we'll
be
using
and
we've
found
our
pilot
projects
here
that
we
are
very
excited
about
moving
forward
with
and
our
steps
right
now
are.
G
We
are
reaching
out
to
neighborhoods
that
are
adjacent
to
these
projects.
To
show
them
to
the
neighborhoods,
get
their
feedback
listen
to
any
kind
of
comments
or
concerns
they
have,
and
I
would
say,
for
the
most
part,
this
has
been
a
very
supported
concept.
The
neighborhoods
around
these
projects
have
been
in
either
great
support
of
it
or
tentative
support.
G
We
are
returning
to
the
east
end
valley,
street
neighborhood
and
oakhurst
neighborhood
and
kenilworth
neighborhoods
for
an
additional
meeting
to
discuss
some
concerns
that
they're
having
which
are
that
they
feel
that
the
trails
might
be
too
dense
on
the
mountainside
for
their
tastes.
In
addition
to
the
fact
that
there
is
a
lot
of
things
happening
in
that
regional
park
area,
so
there
they
do
kind
of
experience
a
lot
of
event
fatigue
and
are
concerned
about
more
people
coming
into
their
neighborhood.
So
we've
we
have
some
plans
to
address
some
of
their
concerns.
G
For
example,
their
parking
concerns
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
our
plan
more
in
depth
with
them
on
why
we
have
the
level
of
trails
that
we
have
there
and,
in
essence,
it's
because
there
already
are
a
lot
of
trails
on
that
mountainside
and
there
are
a
lot
of
users
on
that
mountainside
and,
unfortunately,
the
trails
that
are
there
now
have
not
been
built
correctly.
So
they're
creating
a
lot
of
erosion
problems
and
there's
also
a
lot
of
user
conflicts.
G
G
What
is
our
plan,
and
so
we'll
our
conversation
with
those
neighborhoods
will
be
to
see
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
take
out
some
of
those
trails
without.
G
Without
without
solving
the
problem,
so
if
we
take
out
too
many,
we
won't
solve
the
problem.
People
will
still
go
in
there
and
build
more
trails
right.
So
it's
a
it
is
a
balance,
but
we're
continuing
the
conversation
with
them
and
once
we
have
finished
our
meetings
with
the
that
trifecta
of
neighborhoods,
we
will
start
a
citywide
public
campaign.
G
Early
autumn
is
my
best
guess
right
now,
and
I
do
know
that
our
partners
are
eager
to
start
fundraising,
they're
not
going
to
start
fundraising
until
we've
finished
our
neighborhood
conversations,
although
they
are
looking
at
grants
and
there's
one
that
they've
applied
for
that
they
needed
to
in
order
to
get
the
grant
application
in
by
the
deadline.
G
E
This
is
pat,
I
live
in
the
kenilworth
neighborhood
and
I
would
like
to
know
how
you
have
been
reaching
out
to
my
neighborhood.
Maybe
I'm
not
connected
into
them
well
enough,
if
you
made
a
presentation
or
is
it
just
through
a
website?
How
have
you
reached
out.
G
Your
neighborhood
had
their
first
annual
meeting.
It
was
an
ice
cream.
Social
and
asheville
on
bikes
had
a
booth
with
our
maps
and
gave
verbal
presentations
to
people.
G
It
was
I
got,
I'm
gonna
have
to
look
back.
J
Thanks
for
the
information,
I
know
the
greenways
committee
had
the
chance
to
review
a
little
bit
and
have
some
conversations
about
asheville
and
paved
a
few,
maybe
a
couple
months
ago,
and
that.
G
J
Great,
I
I
really
value
and
appreciate
that
y'all
are
taking
into
consideration
nearby
neighbors.
F
J
You
know
I
work
in
trails
too,
on
paved
trails
and
the
the
density
was
something
that
was
something
I
asked
about,
in
particular
to
the
intersections
of
trails
and
and
safety
and
shortcutting,
because
when
trails
are
really
close,
they
often
get
short
cut
and
we
leave
at
least
to
the
same
kind
of
erosion
that
we
have
with
poorly
built
trails
in
the
first
place.
So
I
think
the
process
will
be
really
informative
to
getting
to
something
that
is
functional
for
everybody.
J
But
you
know
reflecting
on
this
awesome
potential
asset
for
the
city.
I
was
having
some
conversations
with
a
friend
recently
about
the
bounty
and
overuse
nightmare
in
some
ways
that
is
bent
creek,
particularly
as
it
comes
to
human
waste,
which
again,
I
think,
a
lot
about
dealing
in
my
career
with
the
appalachian
trail.
J
We
think
a
lot
about
you
know
what
happens
when
you
gotta
go
to
the
bathroom
in
the
woods
and
most
of
the
time
it
means
people
don't
have
either
ready
access
or
the
knowledge
and
skills
to
to
do
so
safely
and
well,
and
I
guess
I'm
just
thinking
about
what
thought,
if
any
has
been
given
to
associated
facilities
access,
because
while
it
is
in
town-
and
maybe
folks
can
you
know
cycle
home
before
before
anything
else
happens?
What
what
other
consideration?
Might
we
give
to
make
make
sure
that.
G
Yeah
leanna
thanks
for
that.
I
I
do
appreciate
that
all
of
the
pilot
projects,
except
for
the
one
that's
on
private
property
in
the
river
ridge.
G
If
that
one
does
indeed
get
to
the
finish
line
are
in
or
near
public
parks
that
have
bathroom
facilities,
but
I
would
also
stress
that
the
one
advantage
here
is
that
we
are
in
the
urban
environment,
and
presumably
many
people
will
be
riding
from
their
homes
not
too
far
away,
so
they
will
hopefully
be
able
to
contain
it
until
they
get
home.
That's.
C
It's
a
way
it's
a
wayfinding
plan
for
for
some
of
that
too,
because
the
fact
that
a
restroom
might
be
close
by
and
someone's
knowledge
of
that
restroom
it
might
be
two
different
things.
So
we
make
sure
that
you
know
I'm
sure
ending
that.
C
So
I
know
in
our
initial
presentation
that
this
it
was
very
ambitious
to
start
the
timetable
was
very
ambitious
and
there
was
no
money
or
very
little
money
allocated
for
this,
and
I
know
you
said
that
they
are
allowed
right
now.
The
the
partners
aren't
allowed
to
do
fundraising
until
you
have
neighborhood
meetings
in
that.
So
I'm
wondering
how
that's
going
because
I
know
the
projects
weren't
very
expensive
and
the
only
thing
about
a
trail
project.
It
wasn't
like
three
million
dollars
a
mile
or
whatever
it
is,
or
six
million
dollars
whatever.
C
It
is
now
it's
being
funded
here
in
the
west
anyway,
so
but
there's
still
a
significant
amount
of
money
that
was
on
the
kind
of
count
of
4
and
an
ambitious
timeline.
How
how's
that
working
right?
Now?
Because
if
we
got
raising
money,
but
we
want
to
start
working
on
things
soon
and
it
just
seems
like
nobody-
is.
G
Believe
me,
our
funding
partners
would
love
to
be
raising
money
from
about
you
know
last
year,
but
we
did
make
the
decision
as
a
group
that
they
would
hold
off
until
we
felt
like
we've
done
enough
outreach
and
are
prepared
to
call
this
a
real
project
from
the
city's
point
of
view,
at
least,
and
so
the
I
can't
remember
exactly
the
total
amount
for
all
five
of
these
projects.
G
You
know
as
good
neighbors
through
the
neighborhoods
that
you
have
to
go
through
where
the
bathrooms
are
all
of
those
kind
of
things.
So
it
is
a
great
value
for
the
money
that
needs
to
be
raised.
We're
also
asking
for
the
partners
to
provide
the
amount
of
money
that
we
would
need
to
maintain
the
trails
for
three
years
as
they
get
established
and
and
then
the
possibility
of
re-upping
that
again
after
the
three-year
period.
G
So
that's
where
we're
at
like
just
getting
our
heads
around
what
the
financial
issues
are,
but
they
aren't
raising
the
funds,
except
for
that
one
applic
grant
application
they
had
to
get
in.
They
are
talking
to
some
big
donors
in
town
now
preparing
for
the
possibility
of
receiving
funding
when
we're
they're
ready
for
that.
But
you
can't
put
the
cart
before
the
horse.
Everything
needs
to
be
properly
in
place,
especially
the
public
engagement
part.
So
it
might
it's
not
gonna
happen
this
year.
G
It
might
be
the
springtime
before
we
see
construction,
and
that
might
be
an
optimistic
timeline
still,
but
I
do
think
once
they
do
start
the
fundraising.
C
Yeah
yeah,
I
know
I
I
just
yeah
some
of
the
some
of
the
timelines
that
we
saw
initially
was
starting
construction
in
the
summer
this
summer
in
the
in
the
early
fall,
and
it
just
seemed
unrealistic
that
all
the
pieces
would
be
in
place
at
that
point
in
time,
so
yeah
that
helps
to
have
a
better
idea
in
terms
of
next
spring
at
the
earliest.
Just
because
there
was
a
lot
of
excitement
over
this
and
because
the
way
people
were
presenting
it
initially,
it
made
it
sound
like
it
was
almost
happening
now
and
then.
C
So,
if
that's
the
public
expectation,
then
we
just
think
we
need
to
reframe
that
appropriately,
so
that
people
can
still
be
excited
about
it,
but
also
understand
it's
not
kind
of
going
in
now.
B
All
right,
just
kind
of
thinking
on
pat's
comment:
are
we
posting
those
neighborhood
meetings
on
the
asheville
and
pave
site,
or
do
we
kind
of
know
when
those
are
happening?
How
would
people
find
out
about
those
that
the
neighborhood
ones
that
are
happening,
the
three
or
two
or
three,
whatever
you
were
mentioning.
G
B
B
B
Yeah
but
I've
attended
a
couple
of
these
and
it
does
seem
really
exciting
and
when
you
talk
about
it
with
just
people,
everyone
seems
very
excited
about
the
whole
project,
so
can't
wait
for
it
to
get
rolling
everyone
else.
Good,
excellent!
Thank
you
lucy.
You
bet
all
right.
Our
next
item
is
the
update
on
the
biltmore
repaving
and
bicycle
late
project
jessica,.
K
Thanks
everybody,
so
guys
probably
saw
some
of
the
press
release
information
that
came
out
last
week,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
everybody
know
that
we
have
decided
at
the
moment
to
not
install
bike
lanes
on
biltmore
between
patton
and
hilliard
as
part
of
the
dots
project,
which
does
not
mean
that
we're
not
planning
to
to
do
bike
lanes
in
that
section
in
the
in
the
near
future.
K
Specifically,
you
know,
I
think
that
we
might
be
able
to
show
maybe
one
more
option
or
two
options.
The
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
if
we
wanted
to
add
bike
lanes
or
any
anything
for
that
matter,
you
have
to
take
something
out
of
there,
whether
it
be
parking
or
a
vehicle
lane.
So
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
options
to
be
considered
when
it
comes
to
adding
bike
lanes
to
that
roadway.
But
we
want
to
be
able
to
extend
the
conversation
with
the
stakeholders
and
that
corridor
as
well
as
the
broader
public.
K
So
we
put
that
information
out
to
the
to
the
stakeholders
and
when
I
say
stakeholders
I
mean
mostly
business
owners,
but
also
residents
in
that
corridor,
and
then
we
also
put
the
information
out
via
press
release.
But
you
know
just
to
assure
you
guys
and
everyone
else,
like
the.
K
That
does
not
mean
that
we're
not
still
committed
to
doing
the
project
and
in
fact
the
city
manager
was
pretty
pretty
clear
and
direct
that
this
is
a
project
that
she
wants
to
see
happen,
that
we
just
needed
to
break
it
into
a
couple
of
pieces
here
and
try
to
focus
on
loading
first
and
then
move
forward
with
a
bike
facility
project.
K
We
are
working
on
the
final
design
for
that.
The
final
striping
plan
for
that
and
we'll
be
working
with
the
consultant
on
that
to
also
put
together
the
signage
plan
and
get
that
out
to
bid.
So
that's
my
update.
K
The
the
story
has
not
has
not
ended
yet
for
biltmore,
but
that's
where
we
are.
As
of
now.
E
I
just
wanted
jessica.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
the
sounds
like
the
pa.
Repaving
is
just
from
hilliard
to
patent,
and
that's
why
you're
you're
stopping
it
you're
not
doing
it,
then,
because
it
doesn't
really
go
anywhere.
K
Well
so
merriman
is,
I
mean:
ncdot
is
repaving
all
of
us
25,
so
merriman,
then
broadway
then
built
more
all
the
way
down
to
south
side,
and
so
we
were
looking
at
the
section
of
biltmore
between
broadway
and
patton,
because
there
is
some
what
I'll
say
is
a
additional
curb
curb
to
curb
width,
cross-section
width,
and
so
we
had
been
having
the
conversation
with
the
community
about
reconfiguring
some
of
that
to
include
bike
lanes,
which
would
mean
taking
away
one
of
the
southbound
one
of
the
two
southbound
lanes.
E
And
would
you
when
would
are
you
going
to
be
using
permanent
painting,
or
is
this
something
that
could
be
readily
updated
within
a
few
years,
because
there
you
have
paint,
and
then
you
have
the
thermoplastic
stuff.
C
C
I
mean
the
safety,
equity,
ncdot
policy
and
even
legal
reasons,
and
first
of
all,
you
know
in
ccsc,
we've
tried
to
work
with
them,
and
the
city
is
doing
a
great
job
and
they're
such
a
better
place
right
now
with
ncdot
than
we
have
been
for
a
long
time,
but
trying
to
get
them
to
just
do
their
complete
street
policy,
which
they
disobey
all
the
time
you
know,
but
they're
actually
required.
C
So
I'm
reading
directly
from
the
policy
requires
ncdoc
planners
and
designers,
consider
and
incorporate
multimodal
facilities
in
design
and
improvements
of
all
appropriate
transportation
projects
in
north
carolina,
and
they
don't
do
that.
You
know
we
struggle
to
get
them
to
do
that,
and
this
is
the
situation.
My
understanding
is
that
they're
willing
to
do
it
on
this
little
key
section
of
this,
which
they're
doing
over
a
much
bigger
area
and
the
only
way
they
are
not
supposed
to
do.
C
It
is
if
a
multi-disciplinary,
complete
street
review
team
says
that
it's
not
going
to
happen
or
if
the
local
government
says
they
don't
want
it
so
they're
willing
to
put
this
in
and
now
we're
saying,
don't
do
it,
which
seems
a
horrible
precedent
to
say
we
say
as
a
city,
we
have
a
vision,
zero
policy,
although
we
do
nothing
with
it
whatsoever,
but
we're
the
most
dangerous
city
and
for
pedestrians
north
carolina,
and
this
is
a
chance
to
take
a
small,
really
small
step
away
from
being
the
most
dangerous
city
and
meeting
a
little
bit
of
our
zero,
with
vision,
zero
goals
and
again
we're
not
doing
that.
C
Having
a
connected
bicycle
network
is
one
of
the
top
priorities
of
this
committee,
multimodal
we
decided
this
last
year.
We
looked
at
our
top
priorities,
and
this
helps
you
know
so
again,
a
very,
very
small
section.
Take
a
step
go
towards
the
connected
bicycle
network
right
now.
People
use
that.
Second,
lane
illegally
to
unload
to
use
the
loading
zone,
and
so
that's
dangerous
and
you
know
not
only
not
only
dangerous
but
also
illegal
and
we're
basically
encouraging
people
to
continue
to
do
that.
C
Certainly,
but
who's
just
south
this
project,
the
maple,
crest
apartments,
former
league
walker
heights-
you
know
the
biggest
public
housing
complex
in
nashville,
the
new
319
billboard
is
just
going
to
be
an
affordable
housing
aspect,
project
too
again
right
there
and
a
lot
of
people
are
very
close.
A
little
bit
too
far,
maybe
to
walk
downtown
but
easily
to
bike
and
facilities
would
help
them
to
do
that
and
we're
denying
them
the
opportunity
for
this.
C
It
seems
to
me
the
only
people
I
mean
you
read
in
the
paper.
81
percent
of
people
vote
full
wanted
this.
You
know
very
small
percentage
bills
didn't
want
it,
and
people
didn't
want
it
where
some
of
the
people
were
saying
that
the
loading
zones
are
being
affected,
but
any
of
every
one
of
these
businesses
that
built
hotels
or
find
the
lease
on
a
business.
There
knew
what
the
loading
zone
requirements
were
when
they
moved
in,
so
the
hotels
there
and
stuff
weren't
like
I
don't
know
what
would
be
for
loading.
C
No,
they
had
a
plan
they
had
to
plan
for
this.
They
knew
what
they're
getting
into
when
they
did
this
and
then
now
they've,
adapted
that
the
plan
of
parking
illegally
and
blocking
traffic
and
using
the
that
is
a
loading
zone
which
is
illegal
again
and
they
they
knew
that
they
weren't
supposed
to
do
that
when
they
bought
into
this
thing.
So
it's
not
like
something
new
like
we're
telling
people
hey.
Is
this
loading
zone
you've
had
for
all
this
time,
you
can't
have
it
anymore.
C
No
we're
just
saying
you
can't
do
something
that
was
illegal
in
the
first
place.
So,
and
you
know
it's
not
like,
we
can
say
that
we're
taking
anything
away
from
them,
we're
not
actually
we're
making
it
better
because,
like
you
said,
you're
designing
loading
zones
to
help
make
it
easier
for
them
to
load
and
unload.
C
If
we
take
away
a
lane
of
traffic,
all
we're
doing
is
not
allowing
them
to
do
something
that's
illegal
anyway,
and
something
that
they
didn't
agree
to
when
they
again
built
their
hotel
or
signed
the
lease
on
the
building,
then
none
of
them
were
saying.
I'm
only
doing
this
because
I
get
to
block
traffic
in
the
traffic
lane
illegal,
illegally
parked
and
load
and
unload.
C
C
We're
not
representing
our
citizens
we're
representing
a
couple
businesses
who
are
mad.
They
can't
illegally
park
and
use
that
lane
as
a
bike
lane
as
a
loading
unloading
zone.
That's
the
only
people
were
inconveniencing
with
this.
That's
my
understanding.
Most
people
are
creating
any
kind
of
a
store,
and
it's
a
small
percentage
of
people
who
are
responding
to
the
need
to
put
in
these
bike
lanes.
So
it
doesn't
seem
to
me
that
there's
any
reason
we
should
not
put
bike
lanes
in
now.
D
B
F
So
jessica,
I
appreciate
the
the
pause
in
a
sense
to
evaluate
the
project
and
make
sure
that
it's
it's
safe
and
that
it
works.
But
my
question
is:
is
why
wasn't
this
looked
at?
Why
wasn't
there
an
engagement
earlier
on
in
the
process?
I
guess
like
when
we
were
talking
about
the
college
patent.
Why
were
we
not
looking
at
biltmore
at
the
same
time,
because
I
feel
like
maybe
this
could
have
been
addressed
at
that
time
as
opposed
to
waiting
until
the
11th
hour?
I
mean
it's
like
I
really
appreciate.
F
I
think
I
like
to
to
do
things
right
and
I
like
as
much
as
I
support
bike
lanes.
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
the
bike
lanes
are
installed
in
a
way
that
they're
it's
safe
for
everybody,
both
the
cyclists
and
the
cars
and
also
being
respectful
of
the
businesses
downtown,
because
there's
a
lot
of
commerce
that
happens
downtown.
So
it's
like
I
I
want
to
like.
F
I
see
all
points
of
it,
but
we
we
really
do
need
to
have
bike
lanes
downtown.
So,
like
I
guess
in
the
future,
I
mean
because
we're
putting
pause
like
the
city's.
You
know
hitting
the
pause
button
on
this.
How
do
we
avoid
this
situation
in
the
future
like
when
we're
doing
a
repaving
project?
How
do
we
get
on
this?
You
know
get
ahead
of
it
so
that
we
don't
end
up
in
the
situation
where
people
are
really
upset,
because
it's
like
right
now.
F
It's
like
we're
pitting
businesses,
business
owners
and
you
know
citizens
against
each
other,
which
is
like
not
productive.
In
my
opinion,
I
just
would
like
we
all.
I
think
we
want
you
know
what's
best
for
the
city
and
I
think
the
bike
lanes
are
really
what's
best,
because
if
we
have
you
know
a
better
network
of
bicycle
lanes,
we
can
get
more
cars
off
the
road
right,
so
it
it
benefits
everybody
but,
like.
K
We
just
can't
we
just
didn't,
have
the
staff
capacity
to
put
the
best
and
proper
I'm
in
on
public
engagement
for
this
and
merriman
really
sucked
up
a
lot
of
the
the
resources
that
we
had,
because
it's
all
the
same
project
right
so
near
the
merriman
conversation
was
for
better
for
worse
the
the
the
one
that
we
prioritized
a
lot
of
our
resources
towards
and
like
trying
to
to
make
a
you
know,
concerted
effort
of
public
engagement
and
analysis
and
all
that
jazz
for
that
portion
of
the
repaving
project.
K
So
it
really,
it
really
impeded
our
ability,
I
think,
to
start
the
conversation
on
the
on
the
other
section
and
then
also,
I
think,
like
naively.
Perhaps
we
thought
I
personally
thought
that
it
was
not
going
to
be
as
troublesome
from
a
stakeholder
from
a
business
standpoint.
I
I
think
that
we,
when,
when
d.o.t,
is
typically
the
hurdle
to
get
over
when
it
comes
to
talking
about
a
lane
reduction
and
when
dot
was
not
not
the
hurdle
for
this
section
of
road.
K
I
think
I
think
we
unfortunately
thought
well,
then
maybe
you
know
we're
good
to
go,
and
I
think
that
was
just
a
a
naive
mistake
on
on
city
staff
on
city
staff's
part,
so
when
it
started
to
get
to
like
reality
like
this
is
moving
forward,
this
project
is
going
to
happen.
K
We
started
to
do
a
little
bit
of
outreach
on
it
and
were
of
course
learned
that
it
wasn't
that
dot
wasn't
going
to
be
the
hurdle
for
it.
It
was
going
to
be
more
of
the
direct
directly
impacted
businesses,
and
so
I've
been
very
upfront
with
those
folks
that
we
didn't.
We
really
should
have
gotten
out
in
front
of
that
and
had
these
conversations
with
them
a
lot
sooner
than
we
did,
and
so
that's
that's
really.
I
think
the
the
part
that
has
driven
the
decision
to
phase
it.
K
I
I
can't
promise
you
or
any
I
mean
nobody
knows
for
sure
like.
If
we
had
done
six
more
months
of
outreach,
would
it
have
changed
people's
opinions?
I
don't
know,
but
we're
going
to
at
least
provide
that
opportunity
more
so
now
and
then
you
know
move
forward
ultimately
with
a
project.
F
Thank
you,
I
mean
sorry
just
I
wanted
to
follow
up
and
actually
I
lost
my
train.
I
saw
let
maggie
go.
A
A
Like
again,
I
have
been
in
your
desk
and
there's
just
so
many
times
that
the
woman
power
to
pursue
all
the
opportunities
just
isn't
there
and
it
sucks,
and
it's
disappointing
and
there's
something
about
this
situation
that
still
just
feels
off
to
me,
like
I
know
that
sure,
in
an
ideal
world,
we
would
have
had
more
time
to
do
community
engagement
but
like
on
our
last
call,
we
all
shared
the
business
surveys.
There
were
12
respondents,
we
have
94
000
citizens,
something
about
that.
Just
feels
really
wrong
from
a
democracy.
A
Standpoint
like
this
is
a
heartbeat
of
our
town.
This
is
a
major
connection.
We
would
never
build
a
road
without
a
can
with
a
mile
that
missing
and
we're
doing
that
for
for
bicyclists,
and
so
it
just
still
feels
really
lopsided
so
say.
Maybe
I'm
even
wrong
on
that
number.
Maybe
it
wasn't
12.,
maybe
it
was
37..
You
know
like
we
had
4
000
citizens
participate
in
the
merriman
survey,
so
something
just
feels
really
really
broken
in
a
democratic
participation.
A
Standpoint
is
37
57
11.,
like
that's
not
representative
of
our
community,
and
to
have
it
go
directly,
in
contrast
with
thoughtful
plans
that
we
have
made
policy
commitments
to
I'm
just
like
really,
I'm
just
really
unsatisfied
with
the
fact
that
the
city
has
already
made
a
decision
and
that
that
decision
is
to
basically
punt
when
a
financial
opportunity
to
do
this
is
like
totally
nowhere
to
be
seen.
So
it's
like,
maybe
in
the
future,
but
like
punting,
doesn't
actually
make
me
feel
reassured
that
it's
going
to
be
done
because
of
lack
of
resources.
A
K
I
I'm
gonna
just
to
continue
to
be
frank,
because
I
that's
the
way
I
operate
and
I
think
it's
healthy
to
have
different
conversations,
but
I
mean
we
did
get
a
lot
more
comments,
but
you're
right,
like
there's
still
a
small,
subsection
and
and
overwhelmingly
the
comments
that
we
ended
up,
getting
were
positive
from
people
that
don't
live
in
the
area.
Don't
work
in
the
area,
don't
own
property
in
the
area
and
so
the
struggle
always
no
matter
what
project
we're
talking
about.
A
K
I
think
the
other
thing
that
is
becoming
more
and
more
evident,
at
least
to
me,
is
the
conversations
multimodal
is
unanimously
supportive,
but
I
go
to
a
different
commission
and
it's
the
complete
opposite
and
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
discussion
or
debate
about
any
of
it.
So
you
know
that's
that's
part
of
the
equation
as
well
is
like.
A
For
that
exact
reason,
you
know
we
reached
out
to
have
the
downtown
commission
work
with
like
to
to
collaborate,
so
I
think
in
the
goals
that
we
set
as
a
committee
almost
this
time
last
year,
we
really
see
that-
and
you
know,
there's
still
limitations
and
I
think
what
you're
pointing
to
is
part
of
why
staff
initiated
the
boards
and
commission's
discussion,
which
has
had
flaws,
but
I
think
some
of
the
a
fundamental
trigger
for
the
conversation
that
staff
lifted
up
is
the
siloing.
So
I
yeah.
B
E
I
put
my
comment
in
in
the
conversation,
but
I
thought
that
the
biltmore
mcdowell
would
show
that
there
was
a
lot
of
support
and,
like
maggie
said,
the
whole
merriman
shows
that
their
support,
I'm
really
disappointed,
and
I
think
you
already
have
support
for
this
thing.
How
much
more
support
did
you
need
to
have
merriman
just
flooded
it,
and
then
you
go
around
an
exact
same
project
it
just
it
it's
like.
Why
am
I
on
this
committee?
F
John,
so
so
yeah,
so
I'm
gonna
play
devil's
advocate
here,
because
I'm
like
a
really
big
fan
of
making
sure
that
you
have
everybody
at
the
table
like,
and
I
think
that's
really
important.
If
you
want
a
project
to
be
successful
and
you
want
the
community
to
get
behind
something,
you've
got
to
have
everybody
at
the
table,
which
is
why,
when
we
were
discussing
the
college
patent,
I
voted
against
that,
not
because
I
don't
support
bike
lanes.
F
Of
course
I
support
bike
lanes,
but
it's
just
like
I
feel
like
if
you
rush
a
process
and
everybody
isn't
involved-
or
at
least
everybody's
voice
hasn't,
had
an
opportunity
to
be
heard
that
you're
not
going
to
have
a
successful
product.
That's
like
not
the
way
democracy
works,
just
because
like
if
you
owned
so
say
you,
like
you
own,
a
house
and
on
your
street,
you
have
on-street
parking
and
somebody's
going
to
take
that
parking
away
from
you
and
you
weren't
going
to
be
able
to
park
there
anymore.
F
All
right-
and
you
don't
have
a
driveway,
because
in
a
lot
of
these
neighborhoods
in
asheville,
we
have
shared
driveways
or
there
are
no
drivers.
You
have
nowhere
else
to
park
and
you'd
be
really
upset.
If
your
voice
wasn't
heard-
and
you
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
your
mind,
so
I
just
feel
like
it's
really
important.
It's
like
I'm,
really
disappointed
that
this
didn't
happen,
but
I'm
also
disappointed
that
we
didn't
get
ahead
of
this
and
have
the
proper
engagement
like
this
really
probably
should
have
been
one.
F
It
shouldn't
have
just
been
the
conversation
about
merriman.
It
should
have
been
like
a
holistic
conversation
to
involve
the
entire
stretch
of
the
I-25
or
25.
That
was
being
resurfaced
so
but
sorry
like.
F
My
kids
have
entered
the
room,
so
I'll
be
quick
but
yeah.
I
just
like.
I
do
like
think
it's
really
important
to
involve
everybody,
and
I
understand
the
value
of
hitting
pod
on
this,
because
if
you
own
a
business
and
you
rely
on
deliveries
like
you've,
got
they've
got,
you've
got
to
figure
it
out,
so
I'm
gonna,
let
you
go
because
I
gotta
deal
with
this.
B
Thanks
john
elizabeth.
I
Hi,
yes,
I
am
just
as
a
process
question
because
I'm
new
to
this
mmtc
thing:
how
do
we
then
convey
to
this
city
that
I
mean
I
don't
know
what
the
process
is,
especially
if
I
know
we
have
a
liaison-
and
you
said
kim's
roni's
schedule
had
changed.
How
does
this
work
when
we
all
are
having
this
discussion
about
vehemently
supporting
one
thing,
but
also
wanting
you
know
more
democracy
for
lack
of
a
for
a
quick
way
to
do
this?
How
does
that
work?
I
B
Yeah
and
jessica,
just
to
be
clear
kim,
is
we'll
watch
100
of
our
of
our
meetings
and
she's
going
to
follow
up
wherever
I'm
sure,
she's
listening
right
now
and
taking
notes
on
this
exact
conversation,
then
it's
just
a
crate
of
timing,
so
she's
still
plugged
in
but
jessica,
you
can
kind
of
follow
up
on
the
other
side
of
things.
K
Thank
you
yeah,
so
another
kind
of
different
unfortunate
or
not
for
this,
this
particular
I'll
call
it
this
being
a
separate
project
that
merriman,
even
though
it's
all
happening
under
d.o.t
with
as
part
of
the
same
thing,
is
that
there's
no
to
add
bike
lanes
in
this
section
through
the
d.o.t
project
would
not
have
required.
K
Any
money
does
not
require
any
money
for
the
city
because
they
they
got
to
restripe
it
somehow,
with
the
merriman
section,
it
actually
did
require
some
money
from
dot,
because
it
would
also
necessitate
some
changes
to
this
big
traffic
signals
and
so
dot
asked
the
city
to
provide
the
funding
for
that
piece
of
it,
and
that
was
because
money
was
involved
and
it
was
over
a
certain
threshold.
It
actually
required
the
city
council
to
weigh
in
vote
and
and
budget
that
money.
K
We
weren't
going
to
have
to
help
pay
for
it
so
because
of
that
it
became
a
city
staff,
slash
city
manager,
decision
and
so
what
city
staff
did
was
we
basically
compiled
all
of
the
feedback
that
we
got,
including
from
you
guys
from
the
downtown
commission
from
the
asheville
downtown
association
from
all
of
the
public
and
business
owners,
and
we
put
together
all
of
the
information
and
talked
with
the
city
manager
and
decided
as
a
staff
level
and
a
city
manager
level
how
to
proceed?
K
So
it
depends.
I
guess,
on
what
the
what
the
situation
is,
but
you
know
you
guys
are
advisory
board
to
counsel
but
you're
also
an
advisory
board
to
staff.
So
we
used
all
of
the
input
and
all
the
information
to
make
the
decisions,
but
we
also
had
you
know,
referenced
all
of
the
plans
that
say
that
this
should
be
done,
including
the
biltmore
mcdowell
plan,
downtown
master
plan,
asheville
emotion,
plan,
like
our
complete
streets
policy,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
plans.
K
That
say
this
is
this
supports
this
action
and
that's
why
the
city
manager
is
is
very
directly
stated.
We
we
plan
to
do
this
project.
We
plan
to
put
bike
facilities
on
this
roadway,
we're
just
going
to
have
some
more
conversation
with
the
business
owners
and
take
some
time
to
evaluate
the
improve.
Hopefully
we
get
some
good
improvement
out
of
loading,
and
maybe
that
will
change
some
of
the
business
owners,
feelings
about
the
overall
project
or
it
may
not
we'll
see.
C
Okay,
all
right,
I
I
don't
think
sorry,
I'm
gonna
go
this,
and
if
you,
if
you're
unhanded
yourself,
though
it
seems
to
me
like
though
we
did
get
input
and
we
and
we're
taking
that
we're
not
it's
like
we
invite
people
to
the
table,
we
might
be
the
table.
C
A
few
business
owners
said
that
they
have
an
issue
because
of
the
loading
zone
and
we're
addressing
that
we're
giving
them
something
they
don't
have
now
right
now
they
shouldn't
be
parking
on
that
second
lane.
They
should
not
be
doing
that
if
we
had
better
enforcement,
we
ticket
them
and
we
stop
them
from
doing
it.
C
So
why
can't
we
put
bike
lanes
in
too
because
they're
getting
we're
solving
their
concern?
I'm
concerned,
I
don't
have
a
loading
zone,
we're
giving
you
one,
here's
a
loading
zone.
You
now
can
use
this.
You
don't
have
to
park
illegally
anymore
in
the
middle
of
the
street,
so
they're
getting
what
they
want.
C
Why
can't
we
get
black
lanes
too
right
now.
There
seems
no
reason
why
we
can't
do
both
because
we're
giving
them
what
they
want.
We've
invited
the
table.
Maybe
it
was
late.
Maybe
they
didn't
get
to
stay
as
often
as
they
wanted
to.
They
said
we
want
loading
zones
well,
they
said
they
want
to
park
illegally.
Still
in
the
street,
which
is
not
okay
in
any
situation.
That's
not
okay,
so
we're
giving
them
loading.
Though
here's
a
loading
zone
and
a
bike
lane.
C
J
I
have
a
question
and
it's
more
about
downtown
residents
right,
so
I
know
there's
the
downtown
commission,
which
is
made
up
of
both
residents
and
businesses,
is
that
right.
J
So
if
we
exclude
business
owners,
do
we
have
a
sense
of
downtown
residents
perspectives
on
streets?
No,
we
don't.
We
don't
have
a
comp,
just
a
snapshot
of
what
that,
what
it
would
mean
for
residents.
Okay,
so
that
was
question
one
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
validate
what
I
think
I
heard
you
say
a
moment
ago:
jessica's
just
for
my
own
record,
we're
really
talking
about
fiscal
opportunity.
J
So
we
have
the
opportunity
for
d.o.t
to
do
the
painting
and
the
striping
at
no
cost
and
our
city
decision
makers
are
saying
we
still
plan
to
do
the
project.
We
just
plan
to
do
the
project
at
a
time
when
there's
more
buy-in
around
the
idea
and
that
will
cost
taxpayers
later.
So
I
think
a
good
question
that
we
should
be
asking
if
I
heard
that
correct.
So
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
the
question
we
should
be
asking
all
citizens
of
asheville
is:
is
this
the
right
fiscally
responsible
decision?
J
K
I
I
don't
know
that
I
can
answer
that
question.
That's
more!
That's
not
really
an
objective
question
that
I
that
I
can
answer.
I
I
will
clarify,
though,
that
we're
not
necessarily
pausing
putting
them
in
to
do
it
at
a
time
when
there's
more
support,
because
our
intention
is
to
continue
to
to
move
the
project
forward
after
we
have
the
more
public
outreach.
J
K
K
Dot
is
going
to
be
starting
the
whole
repaving
in
the
next
several
weeks,
so
that
was
putting
pressure
on
the
on
it
all
and
then
the
amount
of
money
overall
that
we're
talking
about
like
if
we
come
in
and
do
it
ourselves
is
less
than
50
000,
which,
yes,
that's
fifty
thousand
dollars.
But
when
we're
talking
about
you
know
transportation
projects,
it's
not
the
it's,
not
a
impossible
or
crazy
amount
of
money
to
find.
So
that
also
contributed
to
the
decision
that
was
made.
K
You
know
if
it
was
a
million
dollars
or
even
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars-
or
we
probably
would
have
made
a
different
decision.
We
might
have
made
a
different
decision.
K
F
So
two
more
questions:
do
you
have
a
timeline
for
when
the
this
new
engagement
process
will
take
place
and
then,
as
far
as
re-striping
the
street
repainting
the
street,
do
you
already
have?
Is
there
already
a
plan
for
what
would
happen
or
would
that
be
part
of
the
the
process?
That's
like
negotiated
with
these
with
these
business
owners
or
residents
downtown.
K
To
answer
your
second
questions:
first,
we
would
part
of
the
engagement
would
determine
to
plan.
Can
you
guys
hear
me
yeah?
Okay?
So
you
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
we
could
potentially
look
at
as
an
option
that
wasn't
really
talked
about
with
the
stakeholders
was:
would
a
would
a
uphill
only
bike
lane
and
a
wider
parking
loading
lane
be
better
than
two
six
foot
lanes
next
to
very
narrow
parking
lanes?
K
K
So
we
might
end
up
at
the
same
place
that
we
began,
which
is
with
the
proposed
restriping
that
we
that
we
had
or
it
could
change
potentially
based
on
public
input,
and
so
I
think,
as
far
as
when
we
do
it,
I
think
we'll,
probably
after
dot
goes
through
and
finishes
their
project
we'll
be
reaching
out
and
doing
some
evaluation
of
the
of
the
I'll
call
it
the.
Hopefully
the
success
of
the
loading
zone
improvements.
K
We
can't
really
measure
it
like
there's,
not
really
a
good
way
to
measure,
because
we
don't
have
data
on
like
how
often
somebody
was
double
parking
in
the
lane.
So
our
our
hope
is
that
we
can
get
some
qualitative
data
and
information
from
business
owners
as
to
whether
or
not
it's
functioning
better
for
them
and
if
they
think
it's
helped
or
not.
C
C
I
think
she
should
be
able
to
confirm
this,
but
my
understanding
is
that
they
are
creating
some
legal
loading
zones
and-
and
that's
why
I
think,
there's
no
reason
why
they
don't
put
the
bike
lane
in
too,
because
they
are
improving
the
loading
zone,
though
again
what
they're
asking
for
they're
getting
they're,
not
getting
anything
they're,
not
asking
for
other
than
the
ability
to
park
illegally.
That's
the
only
thing
I'm
asking
to
take
away
is
the
ability
to
park
illegally
but
they're
getting
loading
those
so
it's.
C
D
Yeah
randy
you've
got
a
really
good
point
because
I
mean
if,
if
ncdot
says
that
the
data
supports
the
transition,
you
know
if
southbound
traffic
is
really
that
high.
Then
we
need
two
lanes
fine,
but
if
they're
saying
it,
it's
not
that
high
and
you
you
can
remove
a
lane,
then
you're
right,
we
shouldn't
be
restricting.
F
I
drive
biltmore
avenue
every
day
a
couple
times
a
day,
because
I
work
downtown
and
the
only
reason
that
they,
in
my
opinion,
that
southbound
lane
is
needed
is
for
because
of
the
loading
zone,
because
the
truck's
parked
there.
That's
like
really
the
only
reason
that
that
extra
lane
is
needed,
because,
if
the
trucks
weren't
there,
you
wouldn't
need
the
lane.
B
F
So
my
question
was:
when
you
are
putting
in
the
loading
zones,
are
you
going
to
be
removing
the
southbound
lane
or
is
the
southbound
lane
going
to
remain
in
place
or
just
removing
parking?
Okay.
K
Yeah
we're
the
loading
zone
editions
that
we're
talking
about
are
adding
making
some
longer
making
ones
that
exist
longer
and
then
adding
some
new
ones
which
in
some
cases
are
removing
some
on-street
parking,
but
not
not
every
single
one
that
we're
adding
required
us
to
remove
a
lot
of
on-street
parking.
I
don't
have
a
total
number
of
parking
spaces
that
we're
removing,
but
it's
not
significant.
K
K
B
F
So
after
talking
through
this
and
listening
to,
it
seems
like
randy
is
right
that
really,
if
parking
spaces
are
they're
getting
the
loading
zones
and
they're,
not
removing
that
southbound
lane,
and
it's
not
about
safety
and
it's
you
know
what
I
mean
and
the
business
owners
are
getting
what
they're
asking
for,
but
that's
like
the
that's
like
really
like.
The
reason
is
that
there's
the
loading
zones
or
they're
worried
about
they're
not
worried
about
parking.
F
Are
they
worried
about
traffic
being
able
to
like?
Are
they
worried
about
traffic
backing
up?
Is
that
part
of
the
issue
as
well?
Not
just
the
learning
zones.
K
So
the
loading,
though,
is,
I
think,
the
predominant
concern,
but
then
layered
on
to
that
as
what
I
consider
to
be
the
the
common
fears
that
you
hear
about
all
road
diet,
projects,
traffic
and
congestion,
emergency
services,
access-
and
you
know,
we've
we've
provided
information
about-
why
we
don't
think
those
things
will
be
a
concern.
K
So
you
know
there
isn't
we're
not
gonna
change.
Our
decision
right
now,
like
the
the
timeline,
is
just
too
too
small.
I
think
like
again,
like
you,
I
I
don't
disagree
with
you
guys
like
we.
The
city
still
thinks
that
this
project
is
supported
by
all
our
plans
and
makes
sense
for
all
kinds
of
goals
and
objectives
that
the
city
has,
but
we're
trying
to
to
make
sure
that
we
do
the
proper
engagement
process.
F
Is
what
it
is?
I
appreciate
it.
It's
unfortunate.
I
appreciate
it
like
I.
I
do
appreciate
it,
you
know,
but
it's
it's
unfortunate
that
that
this
is
the
way
it
worked
out,
but
I
mean
there's
nothing
we
can
do
about
this,
but
at
least
it's
it's
something.
That's
you
know
supported
by
the
city.
So
you
know,
I
think
that's
that's
great.
You
know,
but
it's
just.
It
is
unfortunate.
The
timing,
because
it's
gonna
cost
taxpayers
money,
even
if
it's
fifty
thousand
dollars
fifty
thousand
dollars.
F
You
know
what
I
mean
that
could
be
used
for
something
else.
You
know.
So
it
is
unfortunate,
but
I
do
appreciate
you
know
the
engagement.
So
thank
you.
B
C
Sorry
this
is
my
last
thing
jessica
and
I've
worked
now
for
a
while
together,
and
so
I
think
she
knows
that
I'm
not
disrespecting
just
in
any
way
with
this
and
and
some
of
the
new
members
may
not
understand
they
go
right,
randy
hates
jessica.
No,
not
at
all.
I
I
love
joshua.
She
works
really
hard
towards
us.
She
does
a
lot
of
great
things.
She
gets
what
we
want.
C
C
But
this
decision,
I
think,
is
just
plain
out
wrong
and
and
since
we're
gonna,
so
I
always
figure
if
we
make
a
wrong
decision,
the
next
decision
we
have
to
make
it
needs
to
be
more
so
I'll,
say
right
now
we
need
to
go
all
the
way
down
the
south
sea
right,
that's
the
name!
I
see
wrong
expense.
That
tells
you
where
the
project's
gonna
end
here.
We
need
to
have
bike
facilities,
not
just
share
arrows
all
the
way
down.
C
Then,
because
again,
the
the
you
know
the
the
maple
free
press
departments
in
in
the
3d,
with
the
319
biltmore,
I
mean
that's
an
underserved
community
who
does
not
have
access
to
cars,
they
shed
access
to
downtown
and-
and
this
is
a
connector
to
their
community
and
we're
basically
saying
bikes-
are
off
the
table
because,
unless
you're
an
experienced,
cyclist
riding
a
billboard
as
scary
as
all
get
out,
you
know
my
wife
rides
on
the
sidewalk
to
get
to
the
hospital
to
work,
because
she
is
afraid
to
be
a
mcdowell.
C
C
I
think-
and
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
agreement
on
that,
but
I
think
that,
if
we're
not
going
to
get
this
now
we're
going
to
reevaluate
more
of
this,
because
before
all
times
that
we
didn't
have
hilliard
to
the
south,
because
it
was
tight
time
frame
right
now,
we
gotta
open
that
time
frame
window.
So
I
think
that
needs
to
be
included
now
in
the
discussion.
B
Thanks
randy
anyone
else,
somebody,
you
know
anymore,
just
skype,
canada,
it's
you
know,
I
mean
just
as
randy
said:
it's
not.
You
know
you
are
actually
leaning
into
all
this
and
it's
it's
a
heck
of
a
storm
coming
at
you,
and
I
appreciate
it.
K
B
Yeah,
you
know
it
looks
like
I
mean
when
I
think
about
the
road
I
think
about
this.
This
change
would
essentially
mimic
the
conditions
on
broadway
or
you
know
the
same
road
just
north
of
patton,
so
that
already
exists
there.
That
and
then
traffic
is
able
to
move
through.
I
don't
know
what
the
counts
are
from.
You
know
intercessors
the
intersection,
but
I
would
imagine
most
of
that
traffic
is
moving
through
that
way.
B
So
I
feel
like
it's
not
something
where
we
don't
have
the
data
and
you
know
to
john's
point
or
somebody
brought
it
up
about
the
ncdot
having
the
numbers
and
being
comfortable
with
it.
What
is
the
what's
the
timeline
for
the
bike
paths
on
patent
and
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
get
comfortable
with
this
installment
and
then
make
the
the
adjustments
when
those
bike
lanes
go
in.
K
I
can't
it's
possible,
maybe
if
it's,
I
can't
answer
that
question
right
now.
I
might
know
a
little
bit
more
later.
I
mean
it's
possible
that
we
could
combine
them,
but,
and
we
would
have
to
do
some-
the
public
engagement
for
biltmore
within
the
next
few
months.
I
don't
know
I
need
to
think
about
it.
I
need
to
think
about
timing.
I
don't
want
to
hold
up
one.
K
B
Okay-
and
maybe
it's
just
you
know
just
kind
of
thinking
like
time-
timing
wise
if
we
can
kind
of
get
it
in
there,
because
I
do
feel
like
that
connection-
really
helps
that
flow
of
of
the
bike
traffic.
You
know
the
traffic,
so
I
really
like
that
ability
to
kind
of
you
know
give
people
an
outlet
there
so
and
then
we've
covered
on
the
cost.
So
it's
you
know
it
is
you
know
what
we're
at
on
that?
Do
you
feel
like
there
is
an
opportunity
to
what's
what
what's
the
reasonable
time
frame?
B
K
I
think
it's
probably
likely
to
be
a
budget
request
for
next
fiscal
year,
which
seems
like
a
really
long
time
from
now,
but
we're
starting
we're
literally
talking
about
starting
the
next
budget
process
again
here
in
the
next
month,
and
so
it's
possible,
it's
likely,
in
my
opinion,
it'll,
be
budgeted
next
year's
next
july.
One
right
we're.
K
I
I'm
not
saying
that's
like
absolutely
what
will
happen
if
we
can
do
some
additional
public
engagement
and
find
50,
000
or
whatever
it
is,
we
could
potentially
do
it
earlier,
probably
wouldn't
be
significantly
sooner
because
of
winter
like
we
can't
lay
down
new
stripes
and
stuff
during
certain
temperatures.
So
it's
possible.
It
could
be
sooner
than
next
budget
year,
but
it
might
end
up
being
next
budget
cycle.
D
Much
anyone
else.
D
Yeah
jessica
jessica,
it's
just
going
to
get
harder
and
harder.
The
more
bike
lanes
you
build.
The
more
people
are
going
to
want
them.
You
know
if
I
can
get
down
to
aston
street
on
a
bike
lane,
I'm
going
to
want
to
get
down
to
hillyard
and
if
I
can
get
down
to
hillyard,
I'm
going
to
like
get
down
to
the
hospital,
so
yep
be
ready
for
for
more
and
more
demands
placed
on
on
the
city.
But
but
thanks
for
your
ongoing
commitment
to
bike
lanes
in
nashville.
K
Yeah
I
mean
that's.
Why
I
came
here
was
to
like
get
more
bike
lanes
here,
so
I
just
need
to
change
the
98
of
the
population
that
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea.
B
One
by
one,
okay,
the
next
section
is
unfinished
fitness.
Do
you
want
to
just
kind
of
pick
anything
out
there
that
you
wanted?
Is
there
any
updates
that
we
want
to
see
there.
B
K
Yes,
so
good
news,
good
news
and
bad
news.
Good
news
is
that
we
now
have
two
urban
planner
twos,
so
anna
sexton
was
just
promoted
to
an
urban
planner
two
from
one
and
then
our
new
new
person
in
the
planning
division
is
coming
to
us
from
the
transit
division.
K
So
some
of
you
may
know
haley
burton
she's
been
with
the
city
for
about
18
months
or
so,
and
she's
been
our
transit
projects
coordinator
and
so
she's
moving
over
to
lucy's
division
to
be
a
planner
which
the
bad
news
means
that
I'm
losing
another
person
in
transit.
K
So
now
we
need
to
backfill
hayley's
position,
and
so
we
have
her
old
position
going
up
on
the
job
site
on
friday
and
we
will
hopefully
get
someone.
I
mean
it's
going
to
take
some
time,
we'll
have
to
go
through
the
whole
process
and
then
haley's
going
to.
Thankfully
I
will
still
have
haley
available
to
help
train
a
new
person
on
the
transit
related
stuff.
So
that's
the
good
news
and
the
bad
news
is.
K
B
Okay:
let's
go
and
get
get
some
committee
updates.
Can
we
get
an
update
from
the
transit
committee.
K
The
only
thing
I'll
just
mention
again
is
that
our
next
transit
committee
meeting
slash
multimodal
meeting.
So
our
september
meeting
will
be
that
joint
meeting
on
september
20th.
K
You
should
have
gotten
a
calendar
invite
from
from
either
from
haley
or
from
amy,
and
it's
gonna
be
from
three
to
five,
we'll
put
together
an
agenda
and
send
it
out
to
everybody,
but
we'll
probably
be
starting
at
the
transit
center
downtown
on
cox.
Avenue.
We'll
do
a
tour
of
that.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
future
planning
for
the
talbert
lot
and
then
we'll
all
get
on
a
bus
and
take
over,
take
it
over
to
the
garage
down
the
street
and
give
you
guys
a
tour
of
garage.
D
I
A
That
I
have
a
question
because
I've
talked
to
a
couple
folks
have
asked
like
that's
an
open
to
the
public
meeting.
Just
like
our
meetings
are
ever
right,
friend,
they're
welcome,
so
maybe
we
could
let
the
our
committees
know
because
I
bet
they
would
love
it.
K
Absolutely
yeah:
I
want
everybody
to
to
be
there.
If,
if
people
could
tell
me,
I
don't
know
how
this
would
work,
but
it
would
be
good
to
know
generally.
If
there
are
going
to
be
extra
people
coming,
then
I
can
make
sure
we
have
one
bus
or
two
buses
or
whatever
we
might
need.
B
Excellent
next
greenway
committee.
D
Jessica,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
updates
sounds
like
there's
progress
on
the
the
north
rad
tip
project
so
like
the
riverside
drive
corridor,
consultant,
selections
and
process
for
moving
that
forward.
Anna.
L
Yeah,
I
was
gonna
say
I
don't
have
the
greenway
committee
meeting
notes
that
I
took
from
last
meeting,
but
the
yeah
you've
got
it
kenny,
we're
negotiating
with
a
consultant
for
the
north,
rad
tip,
greenway
design
and
preliminary
engineering
project
right
now,
it's
going
to
take
a
minute
to
work
through
the
ncdot
hoops
and
getting
that
before
council
and
getting
the
go-ahead,
but
that
will
be
the
section
of
greenway
that
will
connect
from
where
the
current
woman
dikeman
greenway
ends
at
hill
street,
all
the
way
up
to
pierson
bridge
road
and
then
there's
another
ncdot
project.
L
That
right
now
is
still
scheduled
to
be
designed
and
constructed,
and
that
will
also
go
along
broadway
from
hill
street.
I'm
sorry,
along
riverside
from
hill
street,
all
the
way
up
to
broadway
that
will
provide
a
side,
a
multi-use
side
path,
adjacent
to
the
roadway
and
bike
lanes.
So
there
will
be
a
lot
of
multimodal
improvements
coming
along
that
stretch
of
roadway,
eventually.
I
And
I
have
a
quick
question
for
you
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
improvements
have
been
done
in
the
west
and
north
side.
Do
you
have
any
updates
on
when
the
greenway
will
be
the
next
phase
that
is
connecting
you
know
where
amboy
road
and
french
broad
river
park
to
built
through
biltmore?
Oh.
L
Yes,
I'm
glad
that
you
brought
that
up,
so
french
broad
river
west
is
essentially
open.
It
may
be
still
unofficially
open,
but
it's
getting
a
lot
of
use
currently
and
we
are
in
the
works
to
schedule
a
ribbon
cutting
ceremony
and
that
will
be
on
thursday
september
15th.
I
believe,
beginning
at
4.
30
p.m.
L
L
Swana
noah
river
road,
okay,
so
the
that
connects.
L
The
swannanoa
greenway
project
that
is
currently
in
it's
the
design
project
for
the
section
from
thompson
street
east
to
the
walmart
area,
blue
tree
boulevard,
we're
at
90
design.
I
think
for
that
and
the
city
has
construction
funds,
but
is
also
applying
for
a
tda
fund
or
sorry.
A
tda
tourism
product
development
fund
grant
to
get
full
funding
for
constructing
that
mile
of
greenway
once
the
design
is
complete.
So
that's
moving
forward.
K
Too,
go
ahead,
the
section
that
you're
talking
about
that
that
is,
I
think
it
would
be
a
d.o.t
project
for
when
they
redo
meadow
road-
and
I
don't
know
the
time
line
on
that
at
the
moment
and
that
things
are
kind
of
shifting
too,
with
the
stip,
because
there
was
a
huge
budget
shortfall
and
then
they
filled
it
with
some
sales
tax,
and
so
some
things
are
coming
back
in,
and
so
I
don't
know
about
that
part
elizabeth.
K
Thanks
both
of
you
yeah
and
then
I
one
other
thing:
the
bridge,
the
amboy
road
bridge
dots
project,
to
make
some
I'll
call
them
interim
improvements
to
try
to
improve
that
crossing.
K
That
is
scheduled
to
be
let
I
think
they
said
pretty
soon,
and
you
know
it's
not
going
to
make
things
perfect,
but
it's
going
to
make
it
a
little
bit
safer
for
people
biking
and
walking
across
that
bridge,
and
so
I
think
that
will
be
there
they're
going
to
get
back
in
touch
with
us
actually
in
the
next
couple
weeks,
because
that
will
require
there
to
be
a
when
they
do
those
improvements
to
amboy
road
bridge
they're
going
to
be
doing
they're
going
to
have
to
do
some
closure
like
a
one
lane
closure
and
have
like
alternating
traffic
situations.
K
So
they
want
to
coordinate
that
and
make
sure
that
that
public.
You
know
that
the
public
knows
that's
gonna
happen,
so
I
I
think,
based
on
what
they've
said,
it's
gonna
happen.
This
fall
like
sometime
in
the
next
few
months.
That's
outstanding.
B
All
right,
okay,
next,
is
a
bike.
Pen,
randy.
C
Yeah
actually
too,
on
the
amboy
bridge.
My
understanding
is
that
it's
gonna
be
open
to
pedestrians
and
bikes
the
whole
time
too,
during
construction,
so
they're
trying
to
make
sure
that's
a
priority.
So
it
might
be
all
saying:
car
traffic
back
and
forth,
but
like
they're
supposed
to
be
able
to
still
access
that
and
it's
going
to
go
from
the
three
foot.
It
is
now
that
wide
curved.
I
think,
a
five
foot
access
way.
C
So
it's
not
great,
but
whether
it
is
now
because
it's
being
used
no
matter
what
so
it'll
it'll
be
a
welcome
improvement
there
yeah
and
one
of
the
things
so
on
the
metal
road
too.
We
the
city,
agreed
to
take
over
the
cleaning
of
the
shoulders
on
the
road
that
they
made
wider
in
in
exchange
for
striking
it
as
a
bike
lane.
So
I'm
not
sure
when
that's
going
to
happen,
but
that's
supposed
to
be
coming
sometime
soon,
so
it'll
be
actually
officially
swiped
as
a
there's,
a
bike
lane
at
some
point
in
time.
C
But
of
course,
then
you
get
fought
in
the
bridge
or
the
railroad
tracks
and
always
more
pieces,
but
hey
every
piece.
We
can
get
is
is
great
so
like
that
we're
doing
the
bike
counts,
which
we
do
each
year.
Yeah
coming
up
the
second
week
of
september
and
till
dozie
is
coordinating
that,
like
he
always
does,
and
so
we
confirmed
again
with
the
city
that
it's
actually
valuable
for
us
to
do
that
and
they
didn't.
C
They
said
that
they
do
get
valuable
stuff
out
of
that,
so
that's
great
and
then
the
walk
friendly
community
award
every
five
years.
We
go
through
a
process
that
we're
currently
a
silver
watch
level
friendly
community,
which
we
question
whether
we
justify
the
silver
but
there's
gonna
be
more
discussions,
though
too.
C
C
Oh
I'm
sorry
I
do
want
to
thank.
You
were
going
to
have
this
month,
the
city
doc
staff
is
going
to
come
and
talk
to
us
about
cycling
maintenance
in
a
comprehensive
way.
So
a
discussion,
not
a
report,
but
you
know:
there's
lots
of
growth
in
encroaching
on
bike
lanes.
There's
great
sewer
grades
that
are
placed
incorrectly,
there's
pave
and
irregularities.
C
There's
businesses
that
don't
clean
up
after
themselves
and
there's
lots
of
delivery
and
bike
lanes,
and
so
we're
gonna
have
that
discussion
with
city
staff
this
month
and
ken
had
a
conflict,
and
so
we
had
to
bump
it
and
next
month.
I'm
afraid
I'm
not
going
to
be
here.
So
actually
I'm
unfortunately
going
to
miss
the
next
mmcc
meeting
as
well.
So
we're
going
to
have
that
discussion
in
october.
C
So
just
that's
still
happening,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
city
being
willing
to
work
with
us
on
that
in
a
collaborative
effort.
Not
just
the
report
saying
here's
what
we
do
because
right
now
there's
a
lot
of
issues
with
bike
lane
maintenance.
But
ken
has
agreed
to
make
this
a
discussion
where
we
can
figure
out
what
we
do
better.
B
I
I
I
don't
know
if
anybody
saw
that,
but
we
for
about
six
weeks,
garnered
some
nominations
and
got
four,
and
so
one
is
going
to
be
chosen
out
of
that,
and
so
every
quarter,
there's
going
to
be
nominations
just
make
sure.
If
you're
working
with
somebody,
that's
done
a
lot
of
cool
things
in
one
of
your
neighborhoods
to
find
that
form
on
the
it's
under
it's
under
the.
I
I
think
it's
in
the
engage
tab.
I'm
looking
at
my
notes
here
and
our
chair
of
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
wanted
to
know-
and
I
don't
know
who
would
be
the
best
person
to
ask
ask
about
traffic
on
sweden
creek
when
apparently
there's
some
carolina
day,
construction
and
there's
a
lot
more
traffic
and
she
wanted
to
get
an
update
from
some
staff
person.
If
there's
going
to
be
any
traffic
calming
or
speed
bumps,
you
might
know
anything
about
that.
K
I
Yeah
they've
been
blocking
apparently
blocking
off
sections
of
sweden
creek
road,
which
is
now
because
26
is
always
nuts
and
everybody
is
there's
so
much
overflow
traffic
from
25,
now
everybody's
on
sweet
creek,
but
they're
regularly
blocking
off
at
least
a
lane
for
some
construction,
and
it's
so
people
from
that
end
of
the
sneaking.
L
K
Well,
technically,
it
would
be
dot,
but
if
you
want
to
either
send
me
an
email
with
the
information
and
the
person,
the
question
and
or
the
person's
contact
information,
he
was
asking
you
I
can
connect
with
d.o.t
on
it.
B
Excellent,
so
please
note
our
future
agenda
items
that
we
have
on
our
list.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
in
person,
looks
like
we
have
a
3
30
5
30
time
on
the
agenda,
so
we'll
get
clarification
on
that.
We'll
also
know
we're
going
to
meet
we're
gonna,
you're,
gonna.
B
At
the
at
the
bus
terminal
and
then
note
our
important
documents
and
we
will
see
everyone
in
person
next
month,
any
other
college
questions
all
right:
we're
adjourned
rebate
of
14
minutes.