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The
actual
downtown
commission
was
created
by
the
city
council
for
the
sustainability
and
the
continued
development
of
downtown
a
vital
urban
center
of
western
north
carolina's
economic,
cultural
and
visitor
activity.
The
downtown
commission
provides
city
council
with
recommendations
on
downtown
policies
and
initiatives.
In
addition,
downtown
commissioners
currently
fill
four
out
of
nine
seats
of
the
city's
design
review
committee,
which
reviews
development
projects
within
the
central
business
district,
the
river
arts,
district
and
hotel
projects
outside
of
those
areas.
D
D
We
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
committee
page.
We
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
and
for
anyone
out
there
today
joining
us
welcome
at
this
time.
I
will
go
through
and
introduce
all
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
folks.
You
know
what
to
do.
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Please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you're,
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
and
would
like
to
speak
unmute
and
then
remute
when
you
are
done
speaking
committee
members,
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello
and
I
was
not
ready
with
the
agenda
there.
We
are
andrew
fletcher
vice
chair
good
morning.
Everyone
tal
frankfurt.
D
Good
morning,
megan
rogers
is
not
able
to
attend
today,
yo
rodriguez,
good
morning,
good
morning,
ricardo
sayo.
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D
Guillo
hi
ricardo,
hi
ruth,
I
and
sage
hi,
very
good.
Thank
you
all
right
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge.
Well,
so
our
agenda
this
morning
we
will
be
having
for
a
new
business
and
presentations.
We
will
have
a
presentation
on
the
downtown
park,
update
downtown
parks
updates.
We
will
look
at
the
south
side,
south
slope,
vision
plan,
the
draft
plan
and
some
of
the
survey
results.
We
will
be
looking
at
bike
lanes
on
college
and
patent.
D
D
Very
good,
okay.
At
this
time,
then
we
will
move
to
our
first
item
of
new
business
and
presentations,
and
that
is
the
downtown
parks
updates,
and
I
think
that
is
oh,
a
new
guy
mcgirt,
mr
mcgirt
and
mr
wall.
J
Well,
good
morning,
everyone
can
you
hear
me:
okay,
I'm
the
tyrell
medkir
I
go
by
dta
rail,
but
most
people
just
call
me
dee,
so
feel
free
just
to
refer
to
me
as
d,
I'm,
the
new
parts
and
recreation
director
here
with
the
city
of
asheville.
It's
it's
been
a
couple
months
now,
since
I've
been
on
the
job-
and
I
would
tell
you
that
my
first
time
coming
to
asheville
was
probably
less
than
10
years
ago,
and
obviously
the
downtown
area
was
the
area
that
my
mom
and
I
chose
to
visit.
J
We
just
came
for
a
day
trip.
Did
a
black
history
tour
through
historic
parts
of
asheville,
but
one
of
the
things
that
strike
me
was
asheville
feels
a
lot
bigger
than
what
it
is.
I
think
mainly
because
it
has
such
a
vibrant
downtown
at
any
given
moment
when
you're
down
there,
it
seems
like
there's
traffic,
there's
retail.
J
There
are
people
that
are
enjoying
being
in
the
downtown
area,
because
there
are
things
to
do
and
that's
because
there's
been
an
effort,
a
deliberate
effort
on
behalf
of
the
city
and
the
work
that
you
all
are
doing,
and
some
others
to
bring
some
attention
to
the
downtown
area,
and
that
continues
of
course,
what
we
do
in
parks
and
rec
is
bring
people
together.
So
anytime
we
can
provide
spaces
and
places
where
people
can
build
community.
J
It's
always
a
bonus,
so
I'm
gonna
shut
up.
I'm
gonna
have
pete
wall,
who
is
our
focus
area
manager
over
the
assets,
portion
of
parts
and
rep
kind
of
talk
about
some
updates
that
are
happening
with
our
downtown
park
areas?
Pack
square
prichard
triangle,
as
well
as
some
other
park
spaces
and
areas
in
downtown
nice
to
meet
everyone.
A
B
Right
dana,
can
you
pull
that
up?
If
you
don't
mind,
maybe
I
can
have
my
skin
on
hey
everybody,
I'm
peter
walsh,
I'm
the
parks
area
manager,
that
is
a
director
adjacent
position
and
I
assisted
tyrell
in
the
strategic
planning
and
development
and
operations
of
our
parks.
So
first,
thank
you
all
for
inviting
us
to
come,
speak
and
and
provide
some
information
today.
B
Thank
you.
I
think
it
was
at
the
request
of
commissioner
johnson
at
a
previous
meeting
where
he
had
requested
we
come
down
and
give
you
guys
some
information
on
some
long
and
short-term
efforts
that
we're
doing
in
downtown
park.
So
I
appreciate
it
we'll
go
through
this
pretty
quickly.
B
We
were
focusing
on
the
fountains,
we
were
having
annual
issues
with
each
of
the
fountains
every
year,
and
so
we
did
a
fountain
inventory
and
assessment
with
wp
law
out
of
out
of
south
carolina
and
the
first
phase
of
that
was
to
renovate
splashville.
B
Mid
block
fountain
was
found
to
be
beyond
repair,
and
so
that's
part
of
our
project
this
year
we're
doing
a
planting
and
irrigation
project
throughout
the
park.
So
I'll
circle
back
on
that
in
a
second
and
then
the
haas
haley
saucer
fountain
doing
some
upgrades
to
that
in
this
next
fiscal
year.
So
this
year
we're
working
on
planting
and
irrigation.
B
Most
of
the
plant
material
that
was
originally
planted
in
the
park
has
either
died,
for
whatever
reason
trampled
or
just
you
know,
not
not
being
irrigated
not
being
properly
maintained.
So
we're
doing
a
refresh
on
the
planting
in
the
irrigation
landmark,
landscapes
is
helping
us
with
the
planting
and
k2
irrigation
is
helping
with
the
irrigation.
So
look
for
some
improvements
out
there
throughout
this
year.
B
Beyond
that,
we
anticipate
a
lot
of
the
stone
work
needs
to
be
repointed
throughout
the
park
and
so
we'll
have
a
multi-year
effort
around
that,
as
well
as
replacing
some
of
the
site
furniture,
some
of
the
trash
cans
and
benches
have
seen
seen
better
days,
and
so
we'll
do
a
multi-year
phased
replacement
of
those.
And
then
we
anticipate
beyond
that.
There's
going
to
be
some
major
needs
in
the
pavilion
in
the
restroom.
Specifically
our
grounds
maintenance
contract
over
covid
was
not
renewed.
B
So
for
two
years
we
were
handling
all
of
that
maintenance
in-house
with
limited
staff.
I
am
happy
to
report
this
year.
We're
picking
that
back
up
and
landmark
landscapes
is
going
to
be
doing
our
annual
landscape
maintenance,
for
that
parks
will
continue
to
do
daily,
trash
and
cleaning
of
the
parks
and
all
of
our
routine
maintenance.
B
B
So
just
wanted
to
mention
that
real,
quick,
okay
and
then
moving
on
to
richard
park
so
pritchard
park.
Everyone
on
this
commission
is
well
aware
of
some
of
the
challenges
we've
had
in
pritchard
park
over
the
last
couple
of
years
and
ongoing
for
those
of
you
that
have
been
been
here
for
quite
some
time.
B
So
staffing
challenges
were
a
big
thing
in-house.
We
had
very
limited
attempt,
seasonal
response
to
our
open
positions
last
summer,
and
so
we
had
limited
staffing
availability
to
maintain
the
park
same
with
contractor
availability.
We
tried
to
reach
out
to
eight
over
eight
contractors
to
ask
them
to
provide
some
landscape
maintenance
coverage
for
us,
and
we
couldn't
find
anybody
interested
in
helping
with
that
and
then,
of
course,
just
the
heavy
use
of
the
park
requiring
a
lot
more
staffing
resources
to
keep
it
clean
and
keep
it
picked
up
and
keep
it
orderly.
B
So
some
of
the
increased
in-house
efforts
that
we've
been
working
on
to
address
some
of
that
focusing
efforts
around
staffing
being
available
in
the
park
in
the
parks,
I
will
say,
not
just
picture
park,
but
in
the
parks
from
6
to
10
those
are
operating
hours
and
focusing
on
increased
trash
collection.
So,
instead
of
just
one
time
a
day,
which
is
what
we
were
doing,
we
elevated
that
to
about
four
times
a
day
and
trying
to
pressure
wash
multiple
times
a
month.
B
B
A
few
of
the
other
things
that
we're
continuing
to
work
on
trying
to
stay
ahead
of
the
weeds
with
a
strong
mulching
program
and
then
also
a
little
bit
more
heavy
pruning
to
get
good
sight
lines
in
and
out
of
the
parks.
So
we've
been
working
on
that.
You
should
have
noticed
some
of
those
changes
over
the
last
three
to
six
months.
F
B
Of
things,
but
it
allows
our
enforcement
division
to
you,
know,
point
to
something
and
expressly
say
what
is
and
isn't
allowed
in
the
city
park.
So
a
lot
of
those
conduct
issues
that
we've
had
in
city
parks
can
be
addressed.
That
way,
and
that's
both
done
by
our
park
warden.
We
have
one
position:
that's
keith,
whittington
he's
in
the
park
five
days
a
week,
mostly
in
the
evening
hours,
and
then
enforcement
is
still
handled
through
ashland
police
department.
B
Again,
we
know,
we've
got
some
brickwork
issues
down
there
that
have
been
prolonged
for
a
long
time,
we're
having
contractor
it's
a
small
project,
but
we
don't
have
in-stout
in-staff
in-house
staff
trained
up
in
in
masonry
and
so
we're
having
a
hard
time
finding
someone
who
wants
to
do
a
small
project
like
that
with
the
development
construction
industry.
The
way
it
is
in
asheville
most
folks
are
looking
for
the
bigger
projects.
B
So,
but
we
are
we
are.
We
do
have
outreach
and
quotes
on
working
on
some
of
that,
as
well
as
site
furniture
replacement.
So
there's
some
images
there.
You
can
see
the
condition
of
the
benches
right
now,
working.
B
B
B
There
was
recently
some
historical
markers
located
there
that
you
all
may
be
aware
of,
and
we
did
add
irrigation
to
the
turf
areas
to
try
to
help
give
it
more
resiliency,
because
this
is
a
heavily
used
park.
Pretty.
F
B
Year
round,
but
especially
in
the
summertime,
so
then
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
a
few
other
downtown
areas
that
aren't
historically
thought
of
as
park
spaces,
but
we
do
help
maintain
and
keep
those
up
so
senior
opportunity
center
over
on
grove
street
the
heavily
used
facility,
both
inside
and
out
gracie's
garden
they're
at
the
corner
of
lexington
city
hall.
Parking
lot!
B
That's
behind
this
building
that
I'm
in
today
the
marjory
street
parking
lot
rankin
center,
our
rapid
street
parking
deck,
there's
two
two
landscape
areas
on
the
ends
of
those
the
wall
street
steps
you
guys
may
be
familiar
with
that.
F
B
And
then
the
rank
and
employee
parking
lot
behind
here
is
cherokee
center.
We're
also
maintaining
that
so
staffing
challenges,
as
I
said,
continue
to
be
we're
trying
to
look
for
innovative
and
creative
ways
to
attract
folks
to
come
and
work
with
us,
and
then
we
do
have
a
focus
on
trying
to
look
at
innovative
ways
for
park
security
and
safety,
and
one
of
those
right
now
is
a
part-time
seasonal
position
for
folks
with
law
enforcement
or
security
background,
and
seeing
if
we
can
attract
some
folks
into
those
positions.
B
B
It
doesn't
have
to
be
for
a
big
time
commitment
but
reach
out
to
us
if
you're
interested
in
trying
to
help
and
then
advocating
for
parks,
sharing
information
about
you
know
our
staffing
challenges,
the
number
of
facilities
that
we're
maintaining
with
the
staffing
that
we
have
supporting
the
initiatives
that
we
have
going
on
in
parks
and
rec
and
then
prioritizing
parks.
B
You
know,
help
us
prioritize
parks
in
downtown
they're
they're,
as
detailed
well
mentioned.
That's
a
huge
piece
of
what
makes
our
downtown
great.
Of
course,
I'm
I'm
I'm
partial
to
that,
because
I'm
parks
guy,
but
thanks
for
your
time
and
then
open
it
up
to
any
questions.
D
Thank
you
ruth
go
ahead
and
then
stephen
lee.
G
K
Thank
you
first
dee.
We
appreciate
you
being
here
today
and
all
of
us
are
grateful
that
you've
joined
the
team.
We
know
that
you've
got
a
a
huge
department
to
look
after
and
probably
as
wide
of
an
array
of
challenges
as
any
other
department
head
in
the
city
of
asheville.
So
we
appreciate
you
being
here
and
it's
it's
great
to
get
to
meet
you
and
pete.
K
We
also
appreciate
appreciate
you
and
your
experience
and
your
role
there
in
the
parks
department
now
y'all
were
really
lucky
to
have
a
guy
like
pete,
with
his
experience
in
landscape
architecture,
kind
of
leading
this
effort.
I
wanted
to
bring
up
one
thing
specifically,
and
I
thought
that
this
would
be
with
the
downtown
commission
an
appropriate
spot
to
kind
of
mention
it
because
everybody
that's
part
of
this
commission
has
been
involved
with
downtown
a
long
time.
K
K
You
know
the
whole
effort
as
a
reminder
for
everybody
who
wasn't
aware
of
this.
The
whole
effort
that
got
all
this
started
was
a
group
of
basically
volunteers
that
fundraised
the
majority
of
the
money
over
20
million
dollars
to
build
us
a
world-class
park
and
guillo.
I'm
glad
you're
here
too,
because
you've
got
great
urban
parks.
Experience.
So
you're
going
to
understand
this
and
again
speaking
specifically
about
mcguire,
green
and
the
reuter
terrace.
K
I
think
that
my
concerns
today
are
that
civic
spaces
of
this
size
in
any
major
city
cannot
reach
their
fullest
potential
when
it
is
just
city
staff
park
staff
doing
their
very
best
to
maintain
a
park
along
with
their
in
their
other
entire
portfolio.
You
guys
have
challenges
in
other
parks
outside
of
downtown,
but
every
successful
major
urban
park
has
one
thing
in
common,
and
that
is
they
have
basically
a
a
group,
a
friends
group,
a
friends
of
you,
know,
pack
square
park.
K
Whatever
a
friends
group
that
assists
the
parks
department
with
developing
preventative,
proactive
maintenance
schedules
helps
review
major
challenges
that
staff
are
dealing
with,
such
as
like
events
and
then
helping
for
the
long
term,
trying
to
lay
out
with
the
public's
best
interests
and
their
professional
advice
methods
for
making
sure
that
this
incredible
part
for
the
next
10
or
15
years
does
nothing
but
improve
and
get
better.
K
K
The
big
issue
with
our
mcguire
green
is
that
after
the
first
event
in
spring,
the
entire
new
sided
area
is
destroyed
for
the
rest
of
the
season
and
that's
a
great
example
of
how
a
a
volunteer
group
that
works
directly
with
staff
can
help
over
the
long
and
short
term.
Do
things
like
review
options.
Fundraise
fundraise
is
a
big
thing
and
help
prioritize
ways
to
help
that
space
evolve
to
be
something
that
it
is
now.
K
So
I
won't,
I
won't
go
any
further,
but
I
would
like
to
reach
out
pete
andy
I'd
like
to
reach
out
and
suggest
that
this
is
a
conversation.
I
think
that
would
be
really
good
to
have
and
I've
been
a
part
of
different
models
in
different
cities
when
this
has
worked
really
really
well
with
the
goal
of
basically
helping
staff.
K
This
park
is
expensive
to
maintain
and
there
are
huge
issues
that
are
going
to
be
brought
up
in
the
next
5-10
years
and
it's,
I
think,
it's
an
important
thing
to
consider.
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
and
I'd
be
more
than
glad
to
come
and
talk
to
you
about
this
specifically,
and
maybe
what
a
a
potential
model
might
be
for
this
group,
something
you
might
want
to
consider.
Thank
you
and.
A
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
contribute
my
knowledge
and
expertise,
so
if,
if
you
want
to
bring
someone
together-
and
I
would
love
to
work
with
you,
stephen
lee-
and
it's
something
that
I
it's
dear
to
my
heart
and
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
it,
I
really
would
love
to
contribute.
B
And
we'd
be
happy
to
schedule
that
with
y'all
for
sure.
Thanks
for
bringing
that
to
light
stephen
buddy.
E
Stephen
lee,
I
really
appreciate
what
you
said
and
I
would
like
to
participate
in
whatever
that
might
look
like
that's
great.
Thank
you.
N
B
B
D
B
50
decline
in
interest
in
our
10
seasonal
positions
last
year
this
year
it
remains
to
be
seen,
although
we're
not
seeing
both
on
the
recreation
side
and
the
park
side
we're
having
limited
interest
in
our
positions
right
now,.
N
The
other
question
I
have
for
you
guys
is:
I
know
that
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
partner
with
a
service
provider,
that's
doing
outreach
with
the
homeless.
Folks,
like
that,
is,
do
you
have
a
do?
You
currently
have
a
program
or
know
of
other
programs
that
you
could
possibly
model
over
where
you
create
in
some
of
these
employment
opportunities
for
some
of
these
folks,
who
are
also
getting
other
services
from
organizations
who
are
already
partnered
with
other
parts
of
the
city.
G
Yeah
I
just
wanted
stephen
lee.
I
love
your
suggestion,
but
I
think
when
you
talk
about
a
funding
group
coming
together,
there
used
to
be
a
large
group
of
people
who
actually
raised
the
money
for
peck
square
park,
and
then
there
was
a
group
of
downtown
residents
that
used
to
clean
prichard
park
all
the
time.
G
So
I
do
know
that
there's
some
hurt
feelings
in
this
town,
so
I
think
that,
hopefully
you
you
know
that
history,
if
you
don't
I'd,
be
more
than
happy
to
meet
with
you
and
and
talk
to
you
about
that,
because
I
I
think,
whenever
you
put
a
a
citizens
group
together
and
a
support
group,
that's
going
to
raise
money,
you
need
to
tread
lightly.
There
are
some
really
hurt
feelings.
G
K
And
and
ruth
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up.
I
wasn't
going
to
kind
of
dive
into
that
too
seriously,
but
I
think
you
and
I
may
be
the
only
ones
that
are
aware
of
it.
K
When
I
first
moved
to
asheville,
I
was
actively
involved
in
a
lot
of
those
meetings
and
discussions,
and
it
was
a
very
difficult
time
and
I
agree,
and
it's
it's
it's
a
very
sensitive
part
that
needs
to
be
addressed
in
order
to
make
sure
some
type
of
group
is
successful
in
the
future,
and
I
really
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up,
and
I
do
know
that
that
group
of
of
folks
did
some
amazing
things
and
some
of
their
fundraising
efforts
still
exist
today
in
accounts
that
are
not
in
the
city
of
asheville
that
are
in
holding
for
safety.
K
I
think,
but
it's
it's
a
delicate,
delicate
subject
and
ruth.
I
think
your
insight
additional
insight
into
this
would
be
very
helpful
and
maybe
some
initial
discussions
on
how
this
might
work
and
including
efforts
with
like
downtown
area
residents
that
have
already
done
legwork
with
this
type
of
thing,
but
some
entity,
I
think,
can
be
developed
in
a
way
that
provides
assistance
to
staff,
and
this
is
not
meant
to
be
a
burden
to
staff
at
all
pd
this.
K
This
is
meant
to
be
a
group
of
concerned
and
willing
to
volunteer
citizens
that
can
work
together
to
help
I
mean
y'all
are
doing
your
part
and
I
think,
there's
a
group
of
people
that
want
to
do
their
part
as
well
and
help
making
it
successful.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
Ruth.
J
I
just
closed
by
saying
thank
you
for
the
welcome.
I
will
certainly
get
with
dana
to
get
contact,
information
and
pete
and
I
will
work
on
bringing
stevens
the.
D
Kimberly
guillot,
yeah
steven
lee
guillot,
kimberly
and
ruth
together
are
the
ones
that
you
need.
J
To
talk
to
so
that
would
be
our
follow-up
action
again,
nice
meeting
everyone,
and
thank
you
for
some
time
today.
Thank.
D
C
Thank
you.
I
will
share
my
screen.
C
C
So,
thank
you.
So
yes,
so
here
we're
back
we're
here
with
the
south
slope,
a
south
south
side,
neighborhood
vision
plan
and
this
plan
has
been
a
long
time
coming.
I
know
it's,
it's
been
much
longer
than
anybody
anticipated
and
we
did
most
of
our
public
input
before
the
pandemic
started.
C
I
just
just
to
start
out.
You
know
this
area.
This
call
is
our
study
area,
many
people,
think
of
the
south
slope
as
a
much
smaller
area,
just
around
banks
and
buxton
cox,
avenue
area.
We
expanded
that
a
little
bit
to
be
to
kind
of
incorporate
surrounding
commercial
areas,
and
it's
really.
This
area
is
really
a
confluence
of
asheville
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
know
what
time
you
know.
C
We've
got
neighborhoods
surrounding
on
the
east,
west
and
south
side,
the
hospital
district,
the
historic
core,
and
so
it's
to
me.
It's
almost
like
a
confluence
of
where
a
bunch
of
different
things
come
together
and
this
area
we
definitely
acknowledge
this
area
was,
has
been
called
southside
for
a
long
time
by
many
people
and
there's
also
a
south
side
community
that
a
residential
community
that
is
kind
of
forming
a
new
organization.
I
believe
they're
called
southside
united
and
they
are
starting
a
planning
process
as
well
and
we've
been
in.
C
You
know,
it's
been
a
while,
since
we've
been
in
contact
with
them,
but
we
did
discuss
planned
boundaries
with
those
folks
several
years
ago,
and
I
was
even
fully
open
to
say
you
know
if
your
boundaries
overlap
with
this
one.
That
is
fine.
I
think
their
boundaries
don't
overlap
with
this
plan,
but
we've
definitely
tried
to
take
into
consideration
all
of
the
history
of
this
area
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
that
history
in
this
presentation.
But
in
the
plan
it's
there,
obviously,
this
area
was
a
large
chunk
of
this
study.
C
Area
was
redlined
and
really
since
cox-
avenue,
as
most
of
you
probably
know,
was
really
more
of
a
drainage
ditch
until
the
20s.
When
battery
hill
was
torn
down
and
filled
in
to
form
cox
avenue,
it
is
a
little
bit
it's
different
than
many
areas
of
our
city
that
you
know.
This
was
much
more
of
a
rural,
almost
farmland
area
for
many
decades.
C
So
what
else
so,
because
it's
this
confluence
and
in
the
middle
of
all
these
neighborhoods
we're
really
trying
to
kind
of
formulate
strategies
that
can
make
it
a
little
bit
more
cohesive
and
also
tie
in
and
benefit
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
right,
and
I
know
that
in
our
community
we're
very
concerned
and
sensitive
to
you
that
we
are
a
tourist
town.
We
have
been
for
many,
you
know
over
100
years
and
at
the
same
time,
people
who
live
here
really
need
to
see
the
benefits
of
our
economy
and
and
often
don't
see
the
benefits.
C
So
I'm
taking
the
reality,
but
also
how
do
we
make
it
better
for
everyone
and
how
do
we?
You
know,
I
think,
we've
heard
a
lot
from
the
community
already,
even
just
in
the
last
two
weeks
that
public
input
has
public
comment
has
been
open,
that
people
are
concerned
about
this
area
just
being
for
tourists,
which
I
think
we
also
heard
at
the
beginning
of
this
process.
C
C
We
have
special
taxing
authority
in
these
air
in
this
area
and
we
could
issue
local
government
bonds
at
a
better
rate
in
this
area
is
partly
why
this
boundary
is
there
and
we
tried
to
make
sure
we
weren't
encroaching
on
residential
areas.
So
this
is
really
about
mixed
use.
Commercial
and
residential
development.
C
You've
probably
heard
this
some
time
before:
quality
built
environment,
unique
and
inclusive
sense
of
place,
a
strong
local
economy
which
does
include
housing,
multimodal
transportation
and
strategic
infrastructure
and
natural
environment,
and
so
I
have
this
presentation,
I'm
noting
my
time
here.
I
don't
want
to
just
talk
at
you
for
too
long.
C
I
will
try
to
do
a
quick
overview
and
it's
it's
all
on
our
public
input
site.
You
can
look
at
sections
of
the
plan
or
you
know,
or
you
can
download
the
entire
thing
if
you
want
as
well
so
for
quality
built
environment,
I'm
gonna
go
here,
you
know,
part
of
our
process
was
that
we
looked
at
with
the
community
and
developed
some
character
areas.
You
know
not
every
piece
of
this
property
of
this
area.
Excuse
me
is
the
same
so
here
you'll
see
the
green
is
for
parks.
C
The
light
yellow
is
for
areas
that
abut
or
vary
right
next
to
neighborhoods,
so
those
are
a
little
bit
more
sensitive.
We
heard
a
lot
from
you
know:
south
french,
broad,
south
side,
oakhurst
neighborhoods,
about
their
concerns
about
uses
on
these
areas
and
also
height
blue
is
more
things.
We
see
that
either
are
currently
more
residential
or
could
be
more
residential
and
red
being
just
straight
up.
Mixed
use,
more
downtown
like
and
then
purple
this
banks
in
buxton
area.
C
C
So,
just
going
back
to
the
goals
here,
we're
trying
to
kind
of
reinforce,
you
know
an
urban
form
encourage
uses
that
support
local
residents,
improve
the
quality
of
the
public
realm
and
celebrate.
You
know
some
of
the
existing
historic
character,
the
uniqueness.
We
also
recognize
in
this
plan.
You
know
ashland
going
back
a
little
bit
into
history
here,
ashland
and
south
side
mcdowell.
That
was
where
re
urban
renewal
with
the
east
riverside
project
really
affected
this
area.
C
So
even
though
the
east
riverside
area
was
pretty
large
and
even
included
part
of
cox,
avenue,
cox,
avenue
buildings
from
my
understanding
did
not
get
touched
or
taken,
or
anything
like
that,
but
ashland
where
there
was
residential,
there
were
boarding
houses
or
apartment
buildings,
single-family
homes
that
all
got
taken
and
redeveloped
for
this
bigger
new
straighter
street,
and
so
this
area,
as
you
go
down,
ashland
is
very
suburban
right.
C
So
it's
like
medical
offices,
financial
offices,
things
like
that,
and
it's
so
it's
a
much
more
suburban
form
than
you
would
expect
right
next
to
your
downtown.
So
I
think
our
goal
is
to
how
do
you?
How
can
we
make
it
more
urban?
At
the
same
time,
being
sensitive
to
the
neighborhood
and
also
have
uses
that
are
appropriate
there,
the
next
big
theme
is
unique
and
inclusive
place,
definitely
heard
a
lot
about
people
want
to
support
bipac
businesses
in
this
area
and
want
to
see
them
created
here.
C
There's
included
comments
here
in
the
plan
where
we
heard
people
talk
about
like
how,
when
they
see
new
development,
they
get
the
signal
that
they're
not
welcome
and
not
included
in
this
area,
and
so
you
know
this
diagram
is
really
just
to
show
that
you
know
there's
more
than
one
kind
of
inclusion,
social,
economic,
political.
It's
really
you
know
being
full
participants
in
an
area
and
it's
pretty
disjointed
in
some
ways.
C
Right
in
this
area,
we've
got
maple
crest,
which
was
lee
walker
heights
kind
of
in
this
area
as
well,
and
they
have
they've
kind
of
they're
kind
of
cut
off
a
little
bit
from
what's
going
on
in
this
larger
area,
strong
local
economy.
I
think
you
all
are
well
versed
in
what
this
is
about:
supporting
local
businesses,
supporting
development
of
new
and
existing
bipolar
and
businesses
infrastructure
to
help
those
businesses
and
then
also
housing.
So
housing
also
always
supports
a
healthy
business
district
right.
C
C
C
We
do
have
some
of
an
alley
network
that
we
want
to
make
sure
we
preserve
and
really
use
for
businesses
and
for
pedestrians.
It
can
be
great
ways
to
get
through
an
area.
You
know
through
urban
renewal
and
really
I
shouldn't
even
say
that
not
just
urban
renewal,
but
even
before
that,
because
of
the
topography,
we
have
these
giant
long
blocks
on
ashland
and
cox.
So
from
hilliard
you
have
to
go
all
the
way
down,
basically
to
south
side.
If
you
wanted
to
get
over
to
mcdowell,
there's
not
a
through
street.
C
I
think
there
might
have
been
one
at
one
point,
but
because
of
the
it
being
a
ravine
and
being
filled
in
there
really
wasn't
cross
streets
their
way.
There
are
the
way,
the
rest
of
our
historic
downtown.
C
Then
the
last
theme
is
strategic
infrastructure
and
natural
environment,
so
you
may
know
that
this
area
really
drains
the
entire
downtown
area
and
maybe
even
beyond.
So
if
I
showed
you
and
we
have
one
in
our
appendices,
we
have
a
map
that
shows
how
all
the
water
drains
through
this
area
and
so
really
it's
a
great
opportunity
just
to
slow
that
water
flow
increase,
the
quality
and
here's
an
example
from
the
apartments
behind
the
a-loft,
the
green
roof.
C
On
top
of
that,
the
apartments
there
and
we
even
have
the
study
that
shows
how
how
effective
this
has
been.
So
it's
not
just
pretty,
but
it
really
does
a
great
thing
and
helps
us.
It
really
helps
you
from
an
economic
point
of
view
not
spend
as
much
money
on
stormwater
infrastructure
if
you're
treating
that
water
on
the
way.
C
Also,
energy
efficiency,
obviously
renewable
energy.
You
know
climate
is
a
major
piece
of
where
we're
you
know
major
concern
for
all
of
us
as
we
move
forward,
and
then
we
have
10
key
initiatives.
So
what
we
did
is
we
took
basically
those
five
themes
and
pulled
two
ideas
for
each
of
those
themes.
C
Some
of
these
are
super
concrete,
super
clear,
and
it's
just
like.
Yes
go,
do
that
if
you
know
if
it
gets
approved
a
few
of
these
things,
we're
actually
already
doing
frankly
and
we're
just
trying
to
build
on
what
we're
already
doing
and
pulling
it
together
and.
C
The
idea
here
being
these
these
areas
on
the
side
next
to
the
neighborhoods,
should
probably
be
rezoned,
but
in
a
way
that
you
know,
we've
talked
to
these
folks
about
rezoning,
ashland
to
cbd
and
there
was
firm
resistance.
So
I
think
it's
more
of
choosing
a
zoning
district,
that's
appropriate
and
that
works
for
both
commercial
and
residents
and
there's
an
idea
here
about
extending
the
cbd
to
the
south.
You
know,
maple
crest
here
is,
is
done
and
built.
C
The
city
will
be
pursuing
the
development
of
319
biltmore
here
below
that
and
really
what
we
have.
The
the
biggest
change
area
would
be
this
area
of
mcdowell
street
moving
south
those
are
much
more
smaller,
suburban
buildings
and
what
you
know
it's
an
opportunity:
let's
put
it
that
way.
C
Creating
a
gateway
at
built
one
south
side,
so
this
is
one
of
those
aspirational
ideas
that
may
never
happen
and
we
own
the
city
owns
here
on
the
left.
If
you
can
see
this
is
our
gas
station,
our
our
fuel
station
and
we
actually
also
own
a
piece
of
land
here
that
comes
out
to
biltmore.
Sorry,
the
buncombe
county
owns
this
area
on
the
on
the
left,
this
building
and
I
think,
they're
they're
about
they're
going
to
change
some
uses
there.
C
The
new
townhomes
are
here,
of
course,
and
then
the
city
obviously
owns
the
parking
areas.
Here
we
heard
a
lot
from
the
oakhurst
neighborhood
about
this
area
and
concerns
parking
pressures.
We
know
at
east
end
valley
and
oakhurst
are
happening,
so
the
idea
here
is
what,
if
we
could
and
also,
I
should
say-
also
people
often
feel
like
they.
You
know
if
you're
going
to
a
tourist
game
or
or
even
just
getting
up
to
the
park.
C
But
what
if
we
made
it
a
little
bit
more
knit
together
with
the
rest
of
downtown,
so
this
is
kind
of
a
mixed
use
concept,
perhaps
and
it's
very
pie
in
the
sky-
and
this
is
not
funded
and
I've
even
gotten
at
least
one
comment
so
far
saying
this
should
just
come
out
of
the
plan.
So
if
you
all
have
any
thoughts
of
that
about
that,
I
would
love
to
hear
it.
C
But
the
idea
being
here
that
if
you
had
some
parking
garages
that
could
help
pull
some
of
that
parking
pressure
off
the
neighborhoods,
you
could
have
some
public
space,
nice,
public
space,
affordable
housing
or
an
additional
housing
here,
maybe
some
business
opportunities
for
local
residents
again
very
idealistic
and
a
very
planning
type
of
idea,
but
there
it
is
honoring,
african-american
history.
Some
of
this
work
is
already
happening.
C
This
is
a
school
actually
down
here
on
the
lower
right.
It's
called
the
bailey
street
school
and
it
was
on
ashland
avenue
and
I
believe
it's
on
the
side
of
where
the
cox,
the
ironwood,
the
cox
ashland,
the
big
giant
cox
ashland
project
is
going.
It
was
torn
down.
I
think
in
1952.
C
Or
so
it
started
out
as
a
white
school
and
then
became
an
african-american
school
for
for
a
few
years,
maybe
a
decade
or
two.
This
is
oates
park
which
is
really
not
in
our
study
area.
But
it's
just
adjacent
it's
in
a
triangle
down
there
at
south
side
and
I
want
to
say
choctaw
and
it
was
where
the
african-american,
the
negro
league,
as
it
was
called,
played
baseball
and
it
was.
It
was
a
really
big
deal
and
a
great
thing
for
the
community.
C
C
Weaving
art
throughout
the
district,
the
downtown
association
and
the
south
neighborhood
association
worked
together
on
a
mural
project.
This
key
initiative
also
recommends
you
know.
How
do
we
get
art
to
be
built
into
development
and
we
kind
of
use
this
example
from
the
55
south
market
apartments?
Cleasta
cotton,
you
know
won
the
contract
to
put
a
piece
of
art
on
that
building.
C
C
We
are
now
working
on
a
development
agreement
with
a
developer
for
this
process.
For
this
piece
of
land.
Excuse
me,
it
will
be
a
mixed
income
community
and
we're
hoping
that
there
will
also
be
some
ancillary
commercial
space,
possibly
we're
not
sure
what
exactly
that'll
look
like,
but
we're
hoping
to
you
know
this
summer
to
be
moving
forward
with
that.
The.
F
C
There
were
people
who
lived,
you
know
they
remember
their
homes
being
in
the
public
works
parking
lot,
and
this
is
this
is
really
actually
south
of
beaumont
street.
So
some
of
this
may
not
have
been.
You
know,
residential.
I
don't
think,
but
still
I
think
in
our
community's
mind,
this
is
urban
renewal
area.
It
would
cost
us,
somewhere
between
60
and
100
million
dollars,
for
us
to
move
our
facilities
off
this
property
and
to
pursue
this
vision.
So
that
is
our
major
stumbling
block.
C
It
doesn't
mean
that
we
couldn't
maybe
do
a
piece
of
it
at
some
point
in
the
future
and
then
lastly,
the
one
piece
that
is
firmly
in
our
study
area
is
this
piece
on
ashland
avenue,
and
this
was
an
urban
renewal
site
and
really
the
reparations
commission,
which
is
just
getting
going
now,
we're
hoping
that
will
help
give
us
some
guiding
vision
for
for
how
this
property
could
be
used.
C
We've
heard
from
several
community
groups
that
would
like
to
put
affordable
housing
here
that
in
african-american
development
groups
that
would
like
to
put
housing
here
and
have
that
land
return
to
the
community.
We
also
need
to
do
some
additional
environmental
study
on
this
piece
of
property
enact
an
equitable
development
to
benefit
the
larger
community.
So
this
is
really
one
of
those
more,
I
won't
say,
aspirational,
but
a
little
bit
more
abstract
concepts
that
we
really.
We
want
to
start
embedding
in
how
we
do
our
work.
C
We
are
somewhat
limited
in
north
carolina
legally,
but
the
city,
I
think,
really
wants
to
see.
How
can
we
use
either
our
land,
our
funding,
bidding
opportunities,
all
those
things
to
really
support
the
community
by
pop
businesses,
and
you
know
previously
really
disadvantaged
and
discriminated
against
folks
to
kind
of
to
get
you
know,
everybody
should
have
a
seat
at
the
table
and
a
piece
of
the
pie
right
and
displacement.
Obviously,
around
this
area
within
and
around
this
area
is
a
huge
concern.
C
Banks
in
buxton
share
streets-
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
this.
Shared
street
is
something
like
wall
street.
This
is
not
funded,
it
could
be
a
part
of
some
green
street
initiatives
could
help
local
businesses
we've
done
pieces
of
this
really
with
the
asheville
share
space
in
this
initiative,
if
you
will,
but
funding
is
a
it's
definitely
a
stumbling
block,
but
it
could
potentially
happen.
C
C
So
this
isn't
coming-
and
this
is
really
mostly
an
on-road
connector,
making
cox
avenue
a
green
main
street.
This
is
also
actually
happening
and
it's
funded
to
to
a
certain
degree.
We
have
money
for
design
and
the
city
put
out
our
rfp.
C
This
is
one
of
those
main
conductors
of
storm
water
through
our
downtown,
and
the
idea
here
is:
can
we
make
the
sidewalks
wider,
provide
places
for
gathering
space
buskers
make
space
for
bicyclists
and
at
the
same
time,
can
we
treat
some
of
that
storm
water
coming
through
this
area?
And
obviously,
when
you.
C
C
Because
there's
not
a
ton
of
trees
and
that's
just
another
image
for
that
then.
Lastly,
incentives
for
sustainability,
as
you
know,
we're
somewhat
limited
in
what
we
can
require.
C
There
are
incentives
in
other
places
and
states
and
cities
that
I've
looked
at
that
really
do
a
great
job
for
both
residential
and
commercial
development,
and
I
think
the
sustainability
office
is
very
aware
of
those
and
we're
hoping
that
some
of
those
can
become
available
here
in
north
carolina.
There
are.
C
Gosh
I've
been
talking
a
long
time
and
I
apologize
so.
Lastly,
we
have
this
public
input
page.
You
can
click
on
these
different
tabs
and
there's
questions
for
each
of
them,
and
I
can
show
that
to
you
in
a
second
just
next
steps.
We've
got
public
comment
open
for
a
little
bit
over
two
weeks,
we're
doing
an
in-person,
open
house
on
march
22nd.
C
Sure
I
just
real
quick,
I
will
say
on
this
plan
on
this
plan
website.
You
can
click
on
these
different
tabs,
and
so
I've
got
some.
You
know
what
do
you
think
about
these
goals
rank
each
rank
the
goals
of
each
area?
C
We've
got
some
places
like
where
what
do
you
think
about
this
height
map?
What
do
you
think
about
this?
We
try
to
find
the
right
length
because
I
started
just
put
making
all
these
questions
and
people
are
like
that's
too
much
nobody's
gonna
spend
that
much
time
so,
but
there's
open
comment
and
you
can
comment
on
anything
really
in
the
plan.
D
So
so
the
first
thing
I'd
say
is
that
I
please
everyone
on
this.
Commission
should
really
read
the
plan
and
not
only
read
the
plan,
but
please
fill
out
the
she's
got
or
the
the
city
has
a
great
setup
here,
where
you
can
rank
priorities
and
and
then
comment
on
them
and
elaborate,
and
we
need
really
good
comment
and
really
good
thought
going
into
this.
We're
still
in
the
information
collection
stage
of
the
process
in
as
many
voices
as
possible.
D
So
first
thing
I'd
say:
is
everyone
needs
to
if
you
haven't
already?
Even
if
you
have,
you
can
still
go
back
and
comment
again.
I've
done
it.
It's
okay,
they
won't
yell
at
you
andrew,
go
ahead.
N
Yeah
sasha,
that
was
really
that
was
really
great.
I
really
appreciate
this
you
bringing
this
to
us
today.
I
wonder.
I
know
that
when
it
comes
to
funding
and
things
like
this,
we've
got
a
there's,
a
bunch
of
tpdf
money
from
the
from
the
tourism
development
authority.
That's
been
kind
of
building
up
and
sitting
there.
I
know
we've
had
some
problems
in
the
past,
but
you
know
whether
we
can
whether
they
can
pay
for
design
work,
and
things
like
that.
N
You
know
before
things
that
you
know
just
to
get
to
the
shovel
ready
point:
how
does
that
fit
into
that
sort
of
history?
Does
this?
Is
this
a
step
forward
for
possibly
getting
some
of
these
initiatives
like
especially
thinking
walkable
streets
stuff?
I
think
that
would
that's
probably
the
the
most
likely
overlap
between
you
know
what
this
plan
is
and
where
the
what
the
tda
might
like
to
do
as
long
as
they
still
exist.
You
know.
C
P
Say
that
so
the
the
tpdf
I
mean,
I'm
probably
not
going
to
say
anything
that
folks
don't
know
and
dana
could
say
this
too,
but
the
tpdf
process
is
rolling
for
this
year.
The
tpdf
pros,
meaning
that
you
know
the
application
process
is
going
to
be
open.
P
The
city
is
working
on
compiling
the
requests
that
we
have
and
we're
using
a
pretty.
What
I
would
say
is
a
narrow
criteria,
I'm
very
considerate
of
what
our
fiscal
needs
are
and
projects
that
we
have
in
the
hopper
and
cox
avenue.
As
far
as
south
slope
is
one
of
those
projects
that
we
are
considering,
requesting,
tpdf
monies
for
and
that
project
that
entire
process,
if
folks
don't
know,
is
going
to
wrap
up
in
october.
P
But
it
is
a
council
review
process
so,
like
any
other
grant,
we
have
to
go
to
council.
So
what
you'll
see
is
a
request
that
goes
to
probably
the
ped
committee
and
then
ped
will
recommend
to
council
whether
or
not
to
consider
that
request
for
funds
and
as
far
as
I
know
we
are
you
know
every
once
in
a
while
people
say:
oh
yes,
the
legislature
is
going
to
look
at
this
this
session
or
that
session.
P
But
nothing
has
nothing,
has
changed
and
every
all
of
the
money
they
they
do
not
know
how
much
money
yet
or
maybe
it's
a
little
bit
up
in
the
air
that
they're
going
to
use.
I
think
they're
pulling
some
some
of
that
built
up
money,
andrew
that
you
were
talking
about
back,
but
it's
will
be
substantial
and
potential
investment
for
their
community
all
of
buncombe
county.
N
P
P
N
I
was
looking
at
some
of
the
photos
in
the
in
it,
and
yeah
we've
obviously
been
working
on
this
for
a
while,
because
just
I
could
tell
I
could
date
some
of
the
photos
or
no
masks
and
staff
members
that
are
no
longer
with
the
city,
and
things
like
that.
So
that's
really
neat
also
I'll
I'll
point
out
that
the
appendix
link
in
the
back
of
it,
the
appendix
a
that
has
other
maps
doesn't
is
goes
to
a
restricted
access.
Google
page.
N
But
yeah,
that
is,
that
is
really
great
and
really
exciting,
and
you
know
I've
got
I've
got
you
know,
friends
that
I
work
with
that
live
in
that
area.
So
it's
definitely
not
just
for
tourists
and
it's
you
know
really
it'd,
be
really
exciting
to
see
that
I'd
also
really
encourage
us
to.
You
know
with
the
proper
sensitivity.
Look
at
those
rezonings
it's
as
soon
as
possible,
because
otherwise
I
mean,
with
the
growth
patterns,
we're
seeing
out
there
we're
going
to
get
some.
N
You
know
less
than
optimal
stuff
if
we
don't
get.
If
we
don't
get
the
the
right
zoning
on
those
shoulder
areas
right
there-
and
I
know
those
are
sensitive
conversations
with
neighborhoods-
I'm
not.
I
don't
want
to
get
ahead
of
those,
but
we,
I
really
think
we
should
start
having
them
now.
Otherwise,
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
lose
our
our
chance
to
to
sculpt
and
make
sure
that
this
area
integrates
properly
with
downtown
as
it
as
it
should.
C
D
If
you're
putting
a
working
group
together
to
to
look
at
those
transition
zones,
I
I'm
I've
been
interested
in
that
for
a
long
time.
I
I
think
you
were
on
that
trip
when,
when
alan
glein's
took
us
around-
and
we
talked
about
all
this-
and
I've
been
thinking
about
it
ever
since
honestly,
yeah
I'll
I'll
help.
If
you
need
it,
but.
N
Thank
you,
the
the
other
thing
that
I'm
seeing
it
that
I
I'm
sort
of
missing
is,
I,
I
think,
there's
there's
problems
with
east-west
axes
in
this
entire
study
area.
It's
just
hard
to
get
east
of
the
west
in
the
one
opportunity
that
I
see
that
we
kind
of
may
have
missed
in
this
is
hilliard
avenue
pedestrian.
Maybe
I
just
missed
it,
but
hillary
avenue
is
the
best
east-west
corridor
that
we
have
in
the
in
the
pla
in
the
area.
It's
also
sort
of
a
border.
N
I
know
it's
like
sort
of
the
top
edge
of
it,
but
still
the
only
one
east-west.
That
goes
all
the
way
across
this
entire
study
area,
and
I
I
I
feel
like
we
we
should
have.
N
We
may
have
missed
an
opportunity
in
here
to
look
at
to
like
what
you've
done,
with
cox
avenue
to
an
approach
on,
for
that
was
hilliard
avenue,
but
there
may
be
some
there's
some
challenges,
I'm
not
aware
of
there.
C
C
Paragraph
about
hillyard
and
we
looked
at
it
and
we're
just
very
hemmed
in
we
would
have
to
start
acquiring
property
and
knock
in
there's
retaining
walls
and
it's
it
is
a
challenging
thing,
but
it's
definitely
on
our
radar,
and
I
think
just
so
folks
know
in
this.
In
this
oh
slowness
in
the
multimodal
section,
there
is
a
priority
list.
E
Yeah
sasha
echo
with
everybody
else.
This
is
such
a
fantastic
presentation
and
information
to
andrew's
point.
I
was
involved,
maybe
like
three
or
four
it's
a
while
ago
years
ago,
specifically
on
that
hillyard
piece
with
regard
to
it
being
like
a
historically
secured
african-american
trail.
So
keep
that
in
mind,
because
it
was
the
place
for
decades
that
african
americans,
who
were
in
the
south
side
and
east
end
and
all
that
used
to
travel
back
and
forth
to
the
schools
to
the
block
to
all
of
that
the
different
places.
C
Well,
definitely,
if
you
think
of
something
and
you,
you
always
feel
free
to
shoot
me
an
email
or
fill
out
the
survey
either
way
or
if
you,
if
anybody
wants
to
meet
and
talk
about
one
specific
issue,
happy
to
do
that.
C
D
Sasha,
based
on
your
understanding
of
the
process
right
now,
when
when
would
any
of
these
items
begin
to
work
their
way
through
as
proposed
ordinance?
Is
it
changes?
C
C
G
Go
ahead,
ruth
yeah.
I
was
extremely
impressed
with
the
draft
report
and
want
to
thank
you
for
presenting
to
us.
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
if
you're,
if
you're,
looking
at
tpdf
and
you're
looking
at
the
south
slope,
I'm
just
curious
if
you're
going
to
include
a
portland
loo
within
that
application,
which
is
really
needed
on
the
south
slope
and
the
other
question
I
have
is:
do
we
have
any
statistics
on
how
many
people
in
asheville
really
use
bike
lanes?
C
C
H
D
Yeah
yeah:
it's
a
good
question.
We
we
can,
we
can
pull
them
into
that.
They
were
talking
about
college
and
patent,
but
that
we
can.
We
can
ask
them
that
more
generally,.
C
D
Well-
and
I
would
just
say,
regarding
the
cbd
transition
on
that
zone,
if
we're
going
to
start
pushing
cbd
and
removing
parking
requirements,
we
really
need
to
start
talking
about
public
parking
decks
in
that
area.
If
you're
going
to
make
that
make
that
move,
I'm
getting
in
the
weeds,
but
anyway.
D
Any
other
comments
or
questions
for
sasha
regarding
this
we'll
we'll
have
more
than
one
bite
at
this
apple.
This
is
a
big.
This
is
a
big
project.
O
Thank
you.
One
quick
thing,
I
would
just
add,
is
yeah.
Hey
guys
would
appreciate
any
comments
you
all
have
on
just
like
the
overall
template
and
format
of
the
document.
This
is
our
first
in-house
plan
that
we
prepared
in
a
number
of
years,
and-
and
if
this
is
a
you
know
really,
we
want
to
be
a
really
easily
understandable
and
easy
to
read
document
so
appreciate.
You
know
any
comments
on
just
the
overall
template,
because
we,
what
we
would
like
to
do
in
the
future
is
try
to
replicate
this
format.
For
other.
N
Very
good,
thank
you,
I'd
say,
make
it
so
todd.
I
I
I
like
this.
If
you
can,
if
you
can
build
off
this
and
and
start
looking
at
other
areas
of
the
city-
and
we
don't
have
to
have
a
entire
process
of
trying
to
get
another
firm
to
come
in
here
and
look
at
this-
I
mean
I,
I
love
doing
this
in-house.
I
think
there's
a
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
strengths
that
approach
so.
D
Okay
folks
bear
with
us
we're
gonna
go
over
this
morning.
It's
just
gonna
happen
going
to
we're
going
to
fly
through
these
other
ones,
just
as
quickly
as
we
can
jessica
morris
should
be
on
to
talk
to
us
about
bike
lanes
on
college
and
patton,
and
if
you
could
briefly
address
ruth's
question
even
before
you
jump
into
that
on
data
on
the
use
of
bike
lanes
in
general
in
the
city,
if
there
is
such
or
or
how
you
go
about,
measuring
that.
A
H
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
me,
I
can't
see
myself
so
we
do
have
general
data
on
use
of
alternative
modes,
I
guess
I'll
say
through
the
census,
so
census
data
has
data
on
how
people
travel
to
work.
So
it's
not
necessarily
broader
than
than
just
work,
but
you,
if
you're
taking
the
census
and
you're
lucky
enough
to
get
to
answer
those
questions.
We
get
data
from
that.
H
That
says
how
what
percentage
of
people
are
using
a
vehicle,
transit,
walking,
biking,
working
from
home,
etc,
and
I
wish
I
had
the
exact
numbers
in
front
of
me,
but
overall,
I
think
the
census
data
from
the
last
decennial
census,
so
not
the
most
recent
indicated
that
we
had
somewhere
between
one
percent
and
two
percent
bicycle
to
work,
travel
data
which
is
relatively
low.
H
H
I
think
one
of
the
things
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
the
city
has
a
long
way
to
go
when
it
comes
to
adding
bicycle
facilities.
We
don't
have
very
many,
and
we
certainly
don't
have
a
connected
network
and
the
more
that
we
add
those
facilities
and
make
it
more
safe,
convenient
comfortable
for
bicycle
bicyclists
of
all
ages.
To
use
them,
then
we're
going
to
see
those
numbers
go
up,
especially
with
you
know,
e-bikes
being
so
much
more
attainable.
H
What
we're
here
to
talk
to
you
guys
about
today
is
a
project
that
we've
been
working
on
for
a
little
while
we've
had
it
in
our
brains
for
quite
some
time,
and
we
are
at
the
point
now
where
we
have
a
design
and
we
are
in
the
public
engagement
stage
of
this
project,
and
so
we
wanted
to
have
an
opportunity
to
bring
bring
it
to
you
guys
to
get
your
feedback
and
comments
on
it
as
part
of
that
public
engagement
process.
H
F
I
M
Now
is
a
good
time
for
this
project,
and
here
are
a
few
of
the
many
reasons
why
it
meets
many
goals
found
in
adopted
city
plans.
As
we
have
learned
from
projects
like
charlotte
street.
We
know
multimodal
projects
improve
travel
for
all
during
covid.
We
learned
that
we
can
use
our
public
space
differently.
M
M
Before
we
get
into
the
actual
design,
let's
cover
a
few
of
the
project,
basics
and
parameters.
The
city
gave
us
direction
to
minimize
conflicts.
Minimize
parking
loss,
provide
maximum
bicyclist
protection,
consider
city
operations
and
minimize
construction
impacts.
We'll
cover
each
of
these
points
in
detail.
M
When
tasked
with
designing
a
bike
lane
for
college
and
patton,
we
had
two
options.
We
could
either
place
the
bike
lane
to
the
left
of
the
vehicle
travel
lanes,
which
is
a
new
and
different
way
of
bicycling
through
asheville
or
to
the
right.
Like
the
bike
lanes,
we
are
accustomed
to
using
the
project
team
conducted
a
thorough
analysis
of
left
and
right
options.
M
After
the
analysis,
the
team
determined
that
the
parameters
best
supported
a
protected
bike
lane
on
the
left
side
of
traffic
that
follows
college
street,
from
spruce
street
to
the
college
and
patton
intersection
at
pritchard
park
and
along
patton
to
its
intersection
with
broadway
a
protected
bike.
Lane
means
there
is
something
in
place
to
protect
people
on
bikes
from
motorized
vehicles,
much
of
our
analysis,
centered
on
reducing
conflicts.
So,
let's
review
three
of
the
conflict
areas
we
considered.
M
M
M
M
While
our
goal
is
to
preserve
as
much
parking
as
possible,
both
the
right
and
left
options
result
in
a
parking
spot
loss,
four
on
the
left
and
three
on
the
right.
While
nobody
likes
to
lose
parking,
the
trade-off
for
losing
a
small
number
of
spots
is
a
downtown
that
is
safer
for
all
members
of
the
traveling
public.
M
This
next
point,
which
side
provides
the
greatest
amount
of
protection
for
people
on
bikes,
is
an
important
one.
Each
orange
segment
drawn
on
the
map
represents
a
section
of
the
bike
lane
that
is
protected
by
vertical
delineation,
which
we'll
discuss
in
a
bit
or
by
paint
or
by
parking.
The
left
side
includes
1300
feet
of
protection.
M
M
Looking
at
city
operations,
barrier-free
fire
access
and
trash
pickup
are
important
to
the
life
of
downtown.
Both
the
right
and
left
scenarios
have
impacts
to
fire
and
trash
services.
However,
we
were
able
to
design
for
these
impacts
and
you'll
see
evidence
of
this.
When
we
talk
you
through
the
design.
M
A
final
thing
to
note:
the
project
had
two
key
constraints
that
influenced
design
choice.
We
had
to
stay
within
the
existing
curb
lines,
meaning
no
changes
to
the
footprint
of
the
roadway
and
we
could
not
make
changes
to
the
signal
equipment
because
we
knew
of
these
constraints.
From
the
beginning,
we
were
able
to
develop
workable
solutions
for
the
right
and
left
options.
M
On
the
screen
is
a
summary
of
each
of
the
points
we
presented
the
left
side
protected
bike
lane
results
in
fewer
total
conflicts
14
compared
to
26
offers
greater
protection.
Remember
it
doubles
the
amount
of
protection
and
either
design
can
work
within
the
operational
and
construction
constraints
added
together.
The
left
side
wins
so
before
we
review
each
block.
Let's
cover
two
of
the
tools
we
propose
to
use
along
college
and
patent.
M
M
M
The
second
tool
is
the
two-stage
turn
cue
box,
we'll
call
it
a
q
box
for
short,
while
q
boxes
are
new
to
asheville,
they
are
used
in
many
cities
and
are
in
nationally
accepted
design.
Guidebooks
q
boxes
bring
many
benefits,
including
improvements
for
turning
bicyclists
space
to
queue
for
two
stage,
turns
bicycle
and
vehicle
conflict
reduction,
and
they
keep
people
on
bikes
out
of
sidewalks.
M
M
M
We'll
cover
the
college
street
sections
first,
our
first
block
is
spruce
to
market.
The
main
highlight
here
is
the
addition
of
traditional
bike
lanes
in
both
directions
and
the
elimination
of
the
low
volume
left
turn
lane
that
exists
today
at
the
end
of
this
block
is
where
people
on
bikes
enter
the
protected
bike
lane.
M
M
Lexington
to
haywood,
which
is
our
fourth
block,
is
one
of
the
longer
blocks
highlights
include
a
parking
protected
bike
lane
between
lexington
and
rankin,
which
means
there's
parking
in
addition
to
the
bike
lane
buffer
between
people
on
bikes
and
people
driving
there
is
one
driveway
opening
and
the
design
maintains
parking
and
loading
zones
between
rankin
and
haywood.
The
bike
lane
remains
protected,
although
with
a
more
narrow
buffer
width
to
manage
traffic
at
this
intersection.
M
M
M
From
haywood
to
lexington,
the
bike
lane
remains
protected,
with
vertical
delineation
until
church
street
after
church,
the
lane
transitions
to
a
lane
that
includes
a
painted
buffer
between
the
bicycle
lane
and
the
and
the
on-street
parking.
This
painted
buffer
protects
people
on
bikes
from
being
hit
by
opening
car
doors,
which
is
known
as
dooring.
M
M
M
H
H
So
we
all
know
that
we've
got
some
issues
downtown
with
loading
and
loading
zones
and
double
parking,
and
I
would
say
so
far
in
the
internal
conversations
that
we've
had
with
other
staff,
members
and
departments.
That's
been
the
key
issue
that
continues
to
come
up,
and
so
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
we'll
look
at
after
we
get
through.
H
The
public
engagement
process
is
if
there
are
opportunities
to
potentially
incorporate
some
more
loading
zones,
because
obviously
this
project
would
have
an
impact
further
impact
on
that,
in
terms
of
there
being
you
know,
having
somebody
double
park
after
this
project
is
implemented
would
definitely
be
a
greater
impact
than
it
is
even
now.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
out
front
that
loading
zones
are
definitely
something
that
we
need
to
take
particular
care
and
looking
at
and
that's
just
in
general
overall
but
yeah,
there's
a
big
big
concern.
H
We've
heard
so
far,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
H
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
detail-
that's
sort
of
embedded
in
this
and
it's
not
super
easy
to
see
in
the
presentation,
but
in
your
agenda
packet
is
the
link
to
the
the
pdf
of
the
design,
and
so
you
can
zoom
in
on
that
and
look
at
particular
blocks.
H
But-
and
we
also
have
some
upcoming
public
engagement
opportunities,
we
have
two
walking
tours
scheduled
and
those
will
be
next
week.
There's
going
to
be
one
on
thursday
and
one
on
saturday,
and
then
we
will
have
a
virtual
presentation
opportunity
to
you
know
where
we'll
show
basically
this
video
again
and
then
answer
more
questions
if
necessary
and
that's
going
to
be
open
to
the
public
and
I
think
that's
scheduled
for
the
21st
and
and
then
again
we'll
be
presenting
this
information
to
the
multimodal
commission
at
their
meeting
on
the
23rd.
H
I
see
lots
of
hands
raised,
so
somebody
go.
K
Stephen
so
jessica
and
mike
the
the
presentation
like
answered
every
question,
I
had
it's
so
thorough
and
well
thought
out,
and
I
know
that's
what
it's
going
to
take
to
make
this
happen.
My
comment
about
the
loading
zone
is,
I
actually
think
it's
going
to
at
least
for
the
the
business
loading
zones
for
like
a
car.
K
It's
gonna
help
because
they're
so
abused
right
now
they
get
parked,
especially
on
the
weekends,
and
I
think,
the
additional
striping
that's
in
that
is
gonna
help
in
addition
to
improving
safety,
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
that
live
in
my
building
are
really
excited
about
this
plan.
Initially
we
were
like
this
is
just
you
know.
This
is
doesn't
make
sense,
we're
going
to
lose
all
of
our
parking.
But
when
you
really
look
at
this,
it's
really
exciting.
K
D
I
think
guillo
is
next.
A
My
practical
side
kind
of
kind
of
comes
out.
I
love
the
plan,
I
think
it's
it's
very
well
thought
out
and
and
thank
you
for
mike
celay
and
his
and
astrology
amazing
group.
My
my
question
is
about
enforcement,
because
there's
in
the
evening
it
seems
like
even
parking
enforcement,
just
kind
of
goes
away.
People
park
everywhere.
H
Well,
that's
a
good
question
and
I
wish
I
had
a
silver
bullet
answer.
I
can
tell
you
that
you
know
as
far
as
enforcement
within
my
department's
parking
division,
we
just
like
pete
wahl
was
talking
about.
We've
got
existing
staffing
issues
that
make
that
problematic,
as
well
as
the
fact
that
our
parking
enforcement
right
now
only
goes
till
6
pm
and
we
don't
even
enforce
on
sundays.
H
L
Yeah
and
if
I
could
just
hop
in
real
quick,
it's
one
of
the
lessons
that
we
learned
from
cox
avenue
and
our
tactical
urbanism
project-
and
you
know
there
had
been
some
parking
encroachment
issues
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
city
has
done
to
sort
of
shore
up
the
cox
7.
Is
they
actually
added
those
vertical
delineators
that
resolve
some
of
those
issues
so
like
with
each
one
of
the
the
temporary
projects?
L
We're
learning
a
little
bit
more
a
little
bit
more
about
how
to
you
know
properly
delineate,
because,
ultimately,
it's
a
design
solution,
not
a
an
enforcement
solution.
I
mean
obviously
there's
going
to
be
some
enforcement
here
and
there,
but
we
really
want
to
design
the
facilities
that
work
and
we're
moving.
That
way.
D
Wonderful
and
now
that
I
know
those
things
are
called
armadillos,
I'm
going
to
go
put
eye
stickers
on
all
of
them.
What
anybody
else
got
anything
that
was
a
really
good
presentation.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you,
and
if
any
of
you
are
interested
in
attending
the
virtual
workshop
or
the
walking
tours,
you
can
go
to
our
public
input
page
and
register
to
attend
the
the
only
purpose
of
the
registration
is
just
so
we
can
make
sure
that
we
get
everybody
the
invitation
to
the
location
and
be
able
to
further
communicate
with
them
as
this
project
moves
forward,
so
yeah
next
week,
we'll
be
walking
tours
and
then
the
following
week,
we'll
have
our
our
virtual
presentation.
F
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
working
with
jessica
on
this
project
and
mike
as
well,
and
want
to
clarify
that
the
virtual
presentation
will
be
on
thursday
march
24th
and
we
have
opportunities
in
the
morning
and
the
evening
right
now,
we're
still
working
to
get
the
registration
links
set
up
on
the
project
page
for
those.
So
if
you're
interested
in
attending
that-
and
you
don't
see
that
today-
hopefully
we'll
have
those
registration
links
worked
out
by
early
next
week.
So
thank
you.
D
N
This
looks
great,
I
know
I
was
briefed
on
this
a
little
while
ago
and
been
really
excited
to.
You
know
been
waiting
for
it
to
see
it
come
forward.
I'm
hoping
that
this
plan
looks
great
you've
answered.
N
I
think
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
that
need
to
be
answered,
and
my
question
is,
you
know
I
hope
you
get
lots
of
green
lights
on
this
going
forward
and,
if
you,
if
so
house,
if,
if
you
get
all
if
all
the
lights,
turn
green
for
you,
how
soon
do
we
get
to
see
this.
H
D
Very
good
kimberly.
E
Thanks,
I
think
this
is
a
fantastic
presentation.
My
question
is
isn't
for
conflict,
but
it's
just
actually
to
expand.
The
thinking
bike
lanes
also
can
be
very
useful
for
people
with
motorized
wheelchairs,
and
I
know
we're
talking
a
lot
about
people
with
specific
abilities
when
we're
talking
about
bikes,
but
there
are
other
types
of
vehicles
with
wheels
that
are
not
cars
that
actually
could
really
use
the
benefit
of
this
project.
So
my
question
is:
where
is
that
in
this,
because
we'll
just
be
talking
about
this
in
another
form
or
fashion?
E
H
H
So
you
know
I
foresee
in
the
future,
even
though
right
now
we're
technically
not
allowed
to
have
e-scooters
and
things
of
that
nature,
I
think.
Inevitably,
we
will
see
that
continue
to
grow,
and
so
these
lanes
and
any
other
bicycle
facility
that
we
have
in
the
city,
I
foresee
being
able
to
utilize
these
lanes
as
well,
so
so
yeah,
although
that's
not
directly,
addressed
in
the
presentation,
that
is
our
intention.
L
Can
I
just
hop
in
on
that
and
echo
that
just
from
the
asheville
bikes
perspective,
I
really
appreciate
you
raising
that
point
and
if
you
go
to
ashlandbikes.com
and
you
look
up
this
project,
we
have
actually
categorized
it
as
bike
plus
lanes
kim
right
to
your
point.
L
Thinking
about
micro,
mobility
and
welcoming,
and
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
actual
on
bikes,
talked
about
it
as
bike
plus
lanes
is
we
want
to
prime
the
pump
in
the
cycling
community
to
be
thinking
about
all
types
of
light
mobility
and
not
be
creating
lanes
that
we're
like?
No,
these
are
the
bike
lanes.
No,
these
are
the
light
mobility
lanes
and
it's
the
transportation
network
of
our
future.
So
you
can
count
on
asheville
on
bikes
to
be
communicating
that
and
pushing
that
message
forward.
E
Yeah,
and
so
if
you,
if
you
know
me,
you
know
that
I'm
hyper
passionate
about
this
issue.
So
if
there's
any
way
that
I
can
support
what
that
could
look
like
I'm
happy
to
jump
in,
I
don't
have
a
ton
of
extra
time
right
now
in
my
life,
but
I
would
be
so
I
feel
like
we
would
be
taking
about
20
years
step
backwards
if
this
was
implemented
without
the
proper
attention
to
multi-modal
multi-mobility,
and
even
if
it's
set
with
a
certain
speed.
E
You
know
so
that
it
gets
real
clear
that
any
micro
micro,
modal
vehicle
or
whatever
you're
using,
is
up
to
a
certain
speed
and
has
a
certain
number
of
things.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
accessible
more
for
bikes,
because
then
we
get
into
this
territorial
and
hierarchical
issue
that
continues
to
remain
around
ability
versus
different
abilities.
So
this
I'm
passionate
about
this,
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
jump
in
earlier,
but
in
terms
of
maybe
a
year
ago
or
so.
L
I
absolutely
do
and
I'll
ask
you
to
scan.
You
know
what
the
copy
that
exists
on
asheville
on
bikes
page
about
it
and
give
me
you
know
a
critique
of
it.
I
do
want
to
specifically
say
too
that
you
know
we're
also
limited
by
what
mobility
devices
are
currently
legal
and
not
legal
to
use
in
the
in
the
in
the
city
of
asheville.
N
And
to
mike's
point
I
was
actually
that's
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
bring
up,
because
skateboarding
is
not
legal
downtown
and
this
would
be
an
infrastructure
that
would
seem
to
like
really
make
sense
for
that.
So,
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
your
advocacy
to
include
skateboarding
and
honestly,
but
it
was
about,
I
think,
eight
or
nine
years
ago,
before
my
time
on
downtown
commission,
we
almost
got
a
four
wheels
down.
Skateboard
rule
passed
and
it
failed
council
four
to
three,
and
so
I
feel
like
there's
an
opportunity
to
revisit
that.
N
If
we're
to
do
like
we've
got
skate,
shops
downtown
and
literally,
you
can't
skate
to
them
and
I'm
not
a
skateboarder.
I
grew
up
on
grass,
not
concrete,
so
you
know
that's
not
my
thing,
but
it's
definitely,
I
think
an
opportunity
for
for
us
to
get
people
around
downtown
in
in
other
ways
that
we
cert
currently
can't
do
so.
I
would
I
would
invite
you
to
advocate
for
more
more
wheeled
transportation.
In
that
way,
too,.
D
Awesome,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
time
this
morning,
commission
members,
if
you
can
hold
with
us
for
about
5-10,
more
minutes,
we're
going
to
try
to
fly
through
the
remaining
items
and
we'll
move
on
next
item
is
drc
update
to
rules
and
procedure,
and
this
is
essentially
a
small
update
to
the
rule
of
procedure
to
comply
with
a
recent
council
vote
to
go
along
with
the
makeup
of
the
design
review
committee
and
then
really
that's
it
do
we
need
to
describe
it
any
more
than
that,
so
so
we
were
doing
what
was
it
four
four
from
downtown
commission
four
from
river
arts
and
one
at
large,
and
now
we're
gonna
do
or
something
like
that
now.
D
We're
gonna
do
three
three
and
three
correct
three
from
drc:
downtown
three
from
river
arch
and
three
at
large.
D
So
and
that's
just
so,
we
just
have
a
a
proposed.
Well,
there
is
a
ordinance
and
we
need
to
need
to.
I
guess,
update
our
rules
of
procedure
accordingly,.
I
I
Small
tweak,
so
we
just
changed
four
to
three:
just
want
to
go
through
the
process
to
get
that
approved
and
thanks
to
kimmy
for
volunteering,
to
switch
over
from
the
one
of
the
downtown
commission
reps
to
an
at-large
rep
needed
to
make.
That
shift
as
well.
N
So
we
need
to
do.
We
need
a
motion.
Yes,
I
move
to
accept
the
changes
to
the
rules
of
procedure
for
the
downtown
commission.
Is
there
a
second.
D
Very
good
we'll
go
through
a
roll
call
vote
andrew
hi
tao.
D
Okay,
oh
thank
you,
kimberly
aye
stephen
lee
aye.
L
D
And
sage
jumped
off
too
right.
Okay,
awesome,
it
passes
very
good
and
we
will
continue
to
fly
through.
I
thank
you
folks
for
for
for
hanging
on
design
review
committee,
update
report,
stephen
lee,
who
have
we
opened
this
week.
K
Very
simple
but
brief
star
building
that
y'all
saw
before
was
approved
and
the
avery
project
you
are
probably
all
aware
of
that's
been
approved,
came
back
following
approval
from
planning
and
zoning
just
to
review
some
specifics.
K
K
Yeah,
a
lot
was
suggested
to
them
and
if
there
are
other
drc
members
that
are
here
that
want
to
comment
on
that.
But
that's
those
are
the
three
projects
that
were
reviewed.
D
Very
good,
thank
you.
Megan
will
give
us
a
update
on
actual
downtown
association
when
she
gets
back,
and
I
don't
know
if
robin,
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
attend
anything
on
the
homeless
initiative.
Q
I've
got
some
notes
on
some
meetings
and
agendas.
If
you
want
me
to
go
through
them
really
quickly.
Yeah.
Q
So
these
are
the
summaries
from
the
meeting
minutes
from
the
february
meetings
we'll
report
on
the
marches
meetings
in
april
on
february
15th,
the
homeless
initiative
advisory
committee
distribution
list
posted
a
request
for
proposals
for
a
homeless
services
consultant
to
develop
an
actionable
plan
to
address
unsheltered
homelessness.
The
rfp
for
that
is
due
march
4th.
Q
On
february,
8th
senator
tillis's
office
announced
an
rfp
for
the
inspire
initiative,
and
that
would
be
investments
in
supporting
partnerships
in
recovery
ecosystems.
The
grant
addresses
the
region's
substance,
use
disorder
crisis
and
would
invest
money
into
helping
facilitate
people,
work,
re-enter
the
workforce
and
stay
in
the
workforce.
Applications
for
that
are
due
on
march
24th,
the
homeless
coalition
had
a
meeting
march
8th.
The
county
is
returning
to
the
behavioral
health
24
7
model.
Q
They
noted
that
people
with
pets
have
a
harder
time
finding
shelter.
The
leadership
asheville
team
is
working
on
solutions
to
that
and
we'll
have
a
guide
march
31st.
The
ramada
inn
is
going
to
close
seven
people
recently
exited
to
housing.
20
have
vouchers,
but
there's
no
housing
for
them.
Yet
the
mayor
had
a
slide
presentation
showing
the
point
in
time
count
of
homelessness
for
2021.
Q
Q
Q
They
are
trying
to
pursue
a
high
access,
shelter,
the
sheltered
people
during
covid
158
people
were
sheltered
at
the
red
roof,
inn
48
exited
to
permanent
housing.
Ramada
inn.
There
were
116
people
from
three
encampments
and
25
people
exited
to
permanent
housing.
Q
The
buncombe
county,
affordable
housing
committee,
met
on
march.
First,
they
had
a
homelessness
goal
setting
by
matthew
cable.
He
talked
about
that.
The
committee
asked
for
additional
information
regarding
the
ramada
inn
project
and
the
committee
expressed
support
for
the
goal
to
be
phrased,
as
buncombe
county
will
support
activities
that
achieve
functional
zero
homelessness.
Q
Q
The
public
safety
committee
met
february,
25th
chief
david
zack,
discussed
strategic
operating
procedure,
revisions
to
the
section
3020
and
that's
persons
experiencing
homelessness,
and
the
march
meeting
will
contain
a
report
on
crime
data
by
nicholas
pearson,
and
the
report
has
already
been
pre-submitted
and
it's
an
interesting
report
to
look
over
if
you
want
to
do
so.
The
housing
and
community
development
committee
met
on
february
15th
and
they
didn't
have
any
specific
homelessness
discussions
so
that.
D
Great,
thank
you
robin
yeah,
the
250
thing,
I'm
I'm
still
nuts
andrew
go
ahead.
N
Yeah
thanks
robin
for
all
that
all
that
work.
This
is
something
that's
really
important,
I
think,
to
our
city
and
to
a
lot
of
individuals
that
are
experiencing
these
conditions.
I'm
wondering
are
we
in
these
discussions?
Are
we
talking
about
you
know?
One
of
the
legs
of
of
of
housing
is
keeping
people
housed
so
people
who
is
there
any
talk
about
a
program
that
can
try
to
you,
know
people
who
are
at
risk
of
losing
their
housing
of
you
know?
N
Is
there
any
talk
of
having
a
program
that
that
and
tries
to
intervene
at
that
point
before
the
problems
start
to
snowball?
When
you
get
people
that
are
unsheltered
and
on
so
many,
I
think
the
conditions
are
much
more
much
easier
to
deal
with
before
people
lose
housing
than
after.
So
any
talk
of
that.
Q
F
Q
Of
the
agenda,
but
I
do
think
that
that
I
know
that
groups
like
homeward
bound
and
people
like
that,
once
they
get
people,
that
is
a
main
focus
for
them.
But
I
don't
know
of
any
specific
program.
N
The
the
other
thing
I
would
ask
is
I'd
love
to
see
that
the
the
crime
analysis
from
nick
pearson-
that's,
if
that's,
I
think
I
think
I
know
what
you're
talking
about.
If
there's
a.
If
there's
a
fuller
report,
I
would
love
to
get
connected
with
that,
and
I
will
say
that
just
the
last
the
crime
data
around
homelessness
that
was
presented
to
council
back
in
january,
I
thought
was
very
unfortunate
and
damaging
to
the
dialogue.
N
The
the
data
was
incredibly
sloppy.
If
you
look
at
princeton
I'll,
just
this
hasn't
been
really
well
covered,
but
if
I
got
under
the
hood
of
that
data
and
if
you
looked
if
a
homeless
encampment
existed
for
one
day,
two
days
or
two
weeks,
the
crime
data
that
was
used
was
52
weeks
of
data,
so
as
far
as
it
might
have
been
data,
but
it
sure
wasn't
information,
and
so
I
would
just
if
you,
if
anybody's,
trying
to
look
at
that
and
try
to
make
policy
out
of
it.
N
Please
think
twice:
it's
really.
It
was
a
that
data
that
was
presented
to
council
was
a
hot
mess
and
I
thought,
unhelpful
and
possibly
even
damaging
to
efforts.
So.
Q
G
Yeah
I
just
andrew
to
answer
your
question.
I
know.
Pisgah
legal
services
has
been
working
with
a
number
of
individuals
to
help
them
stay
in
their
apartments,
some
people
that
have
gotten
behind
in
rent-
and
I
know
that
they
have
been
working
diligently
to
make
sure
those
people
don't
end
up
on
the
street
and
also
dogwood
health
trust
is
working
hand
in
hand
to
basically
build
and
find
housing
for
populations
that
are
not
housed.
N
Right,
that's
awesome
to
hear
whatever
efforts
we
have
in
that
direction.
I'd
love
to
see
more
because
I
think
it's
not
just
even
socially
responsible
to
help
people.
You
know
as
early
as
intervene
as
early
as
possible.
If
it's
fiscally
responsible
to
the
city,
I
think
it's
a
better
use
of
taxpayer
dollars
to
try
to
help
people
at
that
point
rather
than
waiting
until
those
problems
just
magnify
and
amplify.
D
Awesome
dana:
how
quickly
can
we
do
the
update
report
folks,
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
wrap
up
about
11
30.
I
Very
quickly,
but
I'm
still
going
to
pull
it
up.
Okay,
and
thank
you
for
all
that
robin
and
we
have
I'll
just
note.
We
have
emily
ball
coming
to
the
next
downtown
commission
meeting.
So
I'm
sure
she
can
answer
andrew
that
first
question
you
had
and
any
other
questions
about,
related
to
homelessness
and
the
city's
efforts.
I
I
This
is
one
I
am
going
to
start
talking
more
and
more
about
getting
it
on
the
radar
storm
water
improvements
planned
for
carter,
street
and
street
and
patton
avenue
that
work
we've
been
working
on
the
design
plans
for
the
past
year
and
a
half
to
two
years.
That
construction
is
expected
to
begin
later
this
spring
or
early
summer,
and
it
is
going
to
be
fairly
impactful.
I
So
there's
going
to
be
some
street
closures
of
south
ann
and
of
carter
street
and
there's
going
to
be
some
lane
reductions
of
patent
which
we
plan
to
have
those
during
the
nighttime
hours.
But
it's
a
great
project.
That
area
is
very
much
in
need
of
these
storm
water
improvements
and
we're
going
to
be
making
some
improvements
to
the
sidewalk
to
improve
accessibility.
So
the
pretty
sure
the
whole
section
of
sidewalk
between
southam
and
south
french
broad
is
going
to
be
replaced
so
impacts,
but
also
good
news
and
we'll
continue
to
keep.
I
You
guys
informed,
we'll
probably
build
a
contact
list
similar
to
what
we
did
with
the
haywood
streetscape
project.
So
we
can
keep
keep
you
guys
informed
of
all
the
details
of
construction
and
impact
advisory
board
restructure
proposal.
So
there
have
been
a
few
workshops
held.
One
was
held
at
the
same
time
as
our
meeting
today,
but
they're
continuing
to
keep
that
project
page
up
to
date,
so
I've
provided
a
link
there
and
I'm
sure
we'll
hear
more
soon
after
they
compile
all
the
input.
That's
been
heard
through
these
workshops,
development
project
updates.
I
I
Arpa
funds
are
scheduled
to
be
voted
on
by
city
council
at
their
april
12th
meeting
and
as
you're.
Probably
all
aware.
By
now
the
indoor
face
covering
requirement
expired
on
february
16th,
so
that's
no
longer
mandated
indoors,
although
it
is
encouraged
by
buncombe,
county
health
and
human
services
in
terms
of
meeting
in
person,
city
council
has
been
meeting
in
person.
I
We're
not
set
up
to
do
hybrid
meetings
for
our
boards
and
commissions
at
this
time,
so
I
do
think
we're
going
to
work
towards
transitioning
some
of
our
quasi-judicial
boards.
First
in
the
next
month
or
two
and
then
look
at
having
those
capabilities
for
our
other
boards.
For
the
time
being,
we
are
still
going
to
be
virtual.
D
Very
good,
as
dana
mentioned
next
next
month,
our
april
meeting,
we
will
have
emily
ball,
come
and
talk
about
the
homeless
response,
shelter
and
updates
there,
and
then
we
will
also
have
a-
and
I
can't
remember
now,
who's
doing
it
just
left
my
mind:
a
discussion
on
light
pollution
awareness,
basically
how
how
standards
affect
light
pollution
and
bird
migration,
so
any
other
items
that
we
need
to
cover
everybody's
ready
to
go
great
discussion.
Thanks
for
your
attention,
I
move.
We
adjourn
all
in
favor
say
goodbye.
Thank
you
thanks.
Everybody.