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B
Had
to
get
a
couple
of
things
going
good
to
see
everyone
nice
to
see
you,
mr
g,
mr
troy,
gene
good
good
that
everybody's
here,
most
mostly
everybody
good
to
see
you
tiffany
daniel
brenda,
aaron,
brad
marilyn
nice
to
meet
you
all
right,
good,
chris
and
susie's
here.
We're
gonna
have
brandon
come
in
today,
which
is
really
exciting,
super
glad
for
brandon
to
come
back
all
right,
so
we're
gonna
start
today.
B
With,
let's
see,
meeting
insulation,
here's
our
script
all
right
good
afternoon,
I'm
chair
tonya
rodriguez
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
october
25th
2021
human
relations
commission.
Virtual
meeting,
we're
coming
to
you,
live
from
the
cherokee
homelands,
where
the
eastern
bound
of
cherokee
indians
remain
a
sovereign
nation.
To
this
day,
we
will
now
call
our
meeting
to
order.
B
B
B
B
B
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
commission
members
and
staff
who
are
participating
virtually
for
our
commission
members.
Please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
to
speak,
click
raise
hand
in
the
bottom
of
the
screen
and
when
recognized
by
the
chair,
unmute
your
microphone,
please
remember
to
mute
your
phone
after
you
are
done
speaking.
B
As
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello
see
first
I'd
like
to
thank
brenda
mills
for
this
amazing
script.
It's
it's
one
of
the
best
things
that
we
have
had
in
our
commission
and
has
helped
the
meetings
flow
so
wonderfully.
So.
B
Thank
you
brenda
for
bringing
this
script,
and
thank
you
for
being
here
and
our
interim
director
and
thank
you
brad
and
aaron
for
being
our
legal
here
today,
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
jean
choi
for
the
first
time
I'm
going
to
be
walking
welcoming
him
and
thanking
him
for
his
presence
a
few
times
today.
B
So
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello.
I
don't
see
alfred
green
ivan
melkor!
Isn't
here
yet,
commissioner
tiffany
devoe,
hello,
hi
tony
rodriguez
is
here:
alex
nava
is
not
here
yet
dolores
commissioner
devolor's
valid
vettable,
isn't
here
yet,
commissioner,
chris
weinbringer
dear
I'm
present.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Susie
chandler.
B
Commissioner,
crystal
michelle,
reed
doesn't
look
like
I
are
not
here
yet.
Commissioner
marilyn
rainer
welcome.
B
Well,
commissioner,
raynor
figures
out
how
to
do
that.
Will
commissioner
harvey
dean?
Harold
doesn't
look
like
we
have
him
on
the
screen.
Thank
you.
Our
commissioner
city
council
liaison
cambroni
could
not
attend
due
to
a
scheduling,
conflict
and
we'd
like
to
thank
her
for
her
service
with
our
commission.
B
Our
city
staff
members
are
brenda
mills
aaron
miles
brad
brennam
and
today
we'd
like
to
welcome
gene,
troy
who's,
a
program
manager
for
the
north
carolina
human
relations.
Commission.
We're
really
excited
to
have
you
here,
gene.
We
look
forward
to
your
presentation
and
I
believe
this
is
now
where
we
start
your
presentation
and
nope
to
go
through
the
whole.
A
B
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
friend.
I
appreciate
your
guidance
and
leaderships
approval
for
minutes,
approval
for
minutes
for
8
19
21
as
everybody
up
seeing
those
and
approve
of
them
I'll
give
maybe
about
30
seconds
to
look
those
over
or
if
everybody's
looked
those
over
just
kind
of
nod
your
head
a
little
bit
and
then
we'll
do
a
roll
call
vote.
Okay,
great
okay!
B
So
roll
call
vote
for
approval
of
minutes,
starting
with
lounge
chair.
C
F
E
B
You
tiffany
thank
you,
susie
all
right,
proceeding
with
roll
call
vote
for
approval
of
minutes
of
8
19
2021
tiffany
doubleo,
yay,
chair
yay,
dolores
venable,
commissioner,
dolores
venable.
F
H
I
B
Marilyn,
if
you,
if
you,
if
you're
having
a
hard
trip
a
hard
time
figuring
your
mute
out,
if
you
can
just
give
a
thumbs
up
for
yes
and
a
thumbs
down
for
now,
for
approval
of
the
minutes.
If.
A
Miss
rainer,
I'm
not
sure
what
you
did
before,
but
hit
star
six.
You
should
be
able
to
unmute
yourself
with
star
sex.
B
B
So
would
you
like
to
join
us
in
approving
the
minutes
for
last
month
or
two
months
ago.
J
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
yes
vote.
Approval
for
minutes
for
8
19
2021
is
so
moved.
Approval
for
minutes
for
9,
16,
2021,
hrc
meeting.
C
Madam
chair,
I
believe
you
missed
over
vice
chair
brandon
oliver,
oh
brandon,.
K
B
B
So
moved
roll
call
vote
for.
F
B
Commissioner
tiffany
debolo.
Yes,
chair,
yes,
alex
now,
I'm
not
here
yet.
Commissioner,
dolores
venable.
F
H
K
I
C
B
Wonderful
motion,
so
next
item
up
for
business
is
to
start
please
to
help
our
follow
audience
audience
follow
along
I'll,
say
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
again.
I
ask
committee
members
to
raise
hands
to
be
recognized
to
speak.
Please
take
your
moment
each
time.
You
comment
just
a
reminder
that
the
public
is
listening
on
the
phone
and
this
timely
reminder
keeps
them
up
to
date
on
the
order
of
the
meeting
and
who
is
commenting
or
speaking
orientation.
B
Next
item
up
for
business
is
orientation
presentation
by
the
north
carolina
human
relations,
commission,
gene
troy.
This
is
a
90
minute
presentation.
Gene
troy
is
the
program
manager
for
the
north
carolina
human
relations
commission.
He
comes
to
us
with
30
years,
probably
more
and
a
wealth
of
knowledge
and
wisdom,
and
we
look
forward
to
your
guidance
and
direction.
M
With
bringing
us
to
a
place
where.
B
We
we
join
together
in.
M
And
move
forward,
as
as
one
commission
unified
in
huma
and
human
relations
here
in
asheville.
B
Thank
you.
Gene.
N
Thank
you,
tanya,
hello,
everyone.
My
name
is
gene
troy,
I'm
with
the
north
carolina
human
relations,
commission.
I
am
a
program
manager
for
the
commission
and,
as
tanya
said,
I've
been
I've
been
here
for
a
good
long.
While
I
was
indicating
to
brenda
and
aaron
and
brad
that
I
have
been
with
the
commission
28
years.
However,
I
have
been
in
the
chemical
relations
civil
rights
field
for
approximately
30
years,
because
I
used
to
work
for
the
florida
commission
on
human
relations
for
about
four
about
a
couple
of
years
down
there.
N
So
today
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
the
orientation
giving
you
local
human
relations
orientation.
N
What
is
your
role,
the
role
of
local
human
relations
commissions,
because
you
definitely
need
to
know
what
your
role
is
as
a
local
human
relations
commission
in
the
city
of
asheville
go
to
the
next
slide?
Please.
N
Here
here
is
the
agenda
that
will
be
talking
about
today.
I
will
first
be
talking
about
the
creation
of
local
human
relations
commissions.
What
creates
you,
the
types
of
local
commissions
that
are
that
you
are
as
compared
to
some
other
commissions
in
the
throughout
the
state
of
north
carolina,
the
duties
and
responsibilities
of
commissioned
members,
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
the
role
of
executive
director
for
a
commission,
because
you
do
not
have
a
director
an
executive
director,
so
I
won't
be
discussing
that.
N
N
What
types
of
issues
should
local
commissions
can
deal
with
and
and
what
I
will
be
talking
about-
there
will
be
the
old
human
relations
issues
current.
Can
relations
issues
and
emerging
human
relations
issues.
I
will
also
give
you
an
idea
of
what
the
current
statewide
trends
affecting
human
relations
is
in
the
state
of
north
carolina.
N
N
Creation
of
local
human
relations
commission,
the
next
one,
whenever
a
commit
cre,
a
local
commission,
is
created,
they're
created
by
one
of
the
following
things:
you're
created,
either
by
an
ordinance,
a
city
or
county
order
by
bylaws,
by
an
executive
order
or
by
resolutions
or
by
motion.
N
Now
for
you,
as
the
human
relations
commission
of
asheville,
you
were
created
by
the
city,
ordinance
that
the
the
city
council
decided
to
do
so.
You
were
created
by
the
strongest
type
of
legislation
that
allowed
you
to
be
created,
and
so
that
is
a
good
thing
because
it
takes
a
while.
If,
if
you
have
an
ordinance,
it's
a
little
bit
harder
to
get
rid
of
a
commission.
If
someone
tried
to
get
rid
of
a
commission
because
it
is
considered
to
be
a
law
ordinance
for
the
city
next
slide,
please.
N
You
do
not
have
a
you.
Have
do
not
have
a
commission.
That
is
what
you
have
one
that
is
in
the
city
government
department.
You
don't
have
a
department
per
se,
but
you
do
have
a
link
to
a
department.
The
commission
members
have
a
direct
relationship
with
the
city
officials,
the
commission
conduct.
You
commit,
you
conduct
your
own
program
so
that
you
come
up
with
any
types
of
event.
Ideas,
workshops,
seminars,
those
kinds
of
things
you
come
up
with
them
and
you
are
the
ones
that
conduct
them.
N
You
may
have
a
staff
liaison
between
the
commission
and
the
city
council
and
I
believe
your
your
staff
liaison
person
is
brenda
meals.
Who
is
you?
Who
is
your
staff
liaison?
But
you
also
have
a
council
liaison
city
council
liaison.
I
don't
know
the
name
of
that
person,
but
I
was
told
by
tanya
and
brenda
that
you
do
have
a
city
council
liaison
as
well.
N
N
N
Okay,
the
role
of
commission
members
commissions,
the
commission
members
advise
their
city
council
on
human
relations
issues
affect
the
effects
of
their
city.
In
other
words,
you
you
advise
them
to
any
types
of
human
relations
issues
that
are
going
on
in
the
city
of
asheville.
All
right,
you
serve
as
a
resource
to
the
community.
In
other
words,
if
someone,
if
you
happen
to
know
people
that
they
start
talking
about
things
like
well,
I
had
a
situation
that
was
dealing
with
housing
and
I
feel,
like
I've,
been
discriminated
against.
N
We
investigate
fair
housing
discrimination
complaints,
so
they
can
contact
our
office
to
see
whether
you
know
we
can
investigate
their
their
allegations.
So
you
can
be
a
resource
to
the
community
that
you
serve.
N
The
commission
member
ensures
that
city
services
are
implemented
fairly
to
everyone,
and
then
the
commission
members
may
have
to
provide
training
on
human
relations
issues
to
the
community.
Now
don't
freak
out.
Please
don't
freak
out
on
that
one,
because
we're
not
necessarily
saying
that
you
yourselves
have
to
give
the
training,
but
what
we
are
saying
is
that
you
would
be
responsible
in
finding
persons
who
have
expertise
on
the
human
relations
issues
that
are
being
trained
to
the
community
or
being
presented
to
the
community.
N
So
don't
freak
out
on
the
part
that
says
that
you
will
provide
training.
What
it
means
is
that
you
would
make
sure
that
you
sponsor
events
and
provide
the
expertise,
those
persons
who
are
experts
in
the
issues
that
you're
presenting
to
the
community
next
slide.
Please.
N
N
So
if
you
look
at
these,
these
seven
six,
six
things
here,
which
says
promote,
provide
equal
opportunity
and
diversity.
Appreciation
programs,
monitor,
study,
recommend
resolve
local
human
relations.
Problems,
monitor
report,
deal
with
local
hate
crime
bias
activity,
become
a
crisis
inventor
of
human
relations.
Issues
for
the
local
community,
be
a
trainer
for
crisis
intervention
to
local
human
relations
issues
make
an
annual
report
to
the
governing
body
concerning
the
local
human
relations
commission's
events,
activities
and
trainings.
N
N
That
is
the
first
thing
that
you
need
to
do,
but
the
second
thing
you
need
to
consider
doing
is
to
schedule
a
retreat
to
develop
and
implement
a
local
human
relations
work
plan,
and
when
you
develop
that
work
plan,
you
you
when
you
do
do
the
retreat
you've,
gotta,
you've
gotta,
make
sure
that
you
create
it,
and
you
also
gotta
make
sure
that
you
implement
it,
and
I'm
gonna
be
speaking
to
you
later
on
in
this
presentations
about
developing
a
commission
work
plan.
N
The
next
thing
that
you
need
to
consider
doing
is
schedule
other
commission
training
sessions
as
needed.
Now
I
can
tell
you
that
we,
my
office,
provides
fair
housing,
training,
crisis
management,
training,
hate
bias,
hate
crimes,
training
and
right
now
that
we
have
suspended
the
cultural
diversity
training,
because
we
are
in
the
process
of
updating
that
training.
N
But
we
can
provide
you
with
the
other
three
trainings
for
free,
and
so,
if
you
want
us
to
conduct
those
trainings
to
your
commission,
which
is
a
fair
housing,
crisis
management,
training,
response,
training
or
hate
bias,
hate
crime
training,
we
can
do
so
and
try
to
schedule
that
for
you,
whenever
you
are
ready
to
do
that,
the
next
thing
that
you
want
to
consider
doing
is
becoming
a
hate,
violence,
information
network,
affiliate
reason
being
is
because,
when,
when
you
were
created,
one
of
the
thought
process
and
you
being
created
was
that
you
would,
if,
if
any
types
of
civil
unrest
or
civil
disorder
happen,
you
would
want
to
be,
you
would
want
to
be
ready
to
be
able
to
handle
it.
N
N
And
so
we
ask
you
to
be
a
of
haven
member
so
that
you
can
be
reporting
any
type
of
hate
crime
or
hate
bias.
Incidences
that
happen
in
your
local
area.
To
us.
N
The
other
thing
that
we
we
ask
or
reconsider
that
you
do
is
that
you
send
representatives
to
the
statewide
meetings
of
the
local
human
relations
commissions
in
north
carolina.
N
I
offer
sponsors
meetings
with
all
of
the
nor
all
of
the
north
carolina
commissions
on
a
quarterly
basis
and
at
those
meetings
we
provide
a
presentation
that
talks
about
a
current
local
human
relations
issue
that
is
happening
in
the
state
and
we
have
experts
on
the
state
level
and
local
level
to
talk
about.
You
know
some
of
the
things
and
some
of
the
steps
that
are
being
taken
in
order
to
deal
with
a
lot
of
those
human
relations
issues
that
we
present
to
everyone,
and
so
we've
had
two
statewide
meetings.
N
However,
we
are
planning
to
try
to
have
one
in
december
and
once
everything
has
been
finalized,
we
would
send
an
email
to
brenda
and
to
tanya
letting
you
know
you
know
what
what
date
it
will
be,
what
time
it
would
be,
and
more
likely
it's
going
to
be
a
virtual
meeting
just
like
this,
because
we
used
to
travel
to
different
types
of
cities
and
go
to
those
cities,
since
they
sponsored
them,
but
because
of
covey
right
now,
we're
doing
everything
on
virtual.
N
They
are
very
excited
and
very
eager
to
get
to
work
as
far
as
dealing
with
human
relations
commissions,
human
relations
issues
in
pitt
county
and
so
there's
a
total
of
25
commissions
right
now
in
the
state
next
slide,
please
some
more
things.
N
You
want
to
create
positive
interagency
relationships.
In
other
words,
you
want
to
be
able
to
go
to
other
city
agencies
in
your
city,
as
well
as
to
organizations
that
are
in
your
city.
That
may
have
the
same
initiatives
that
you
are
trying
to
do
in
the
city,
and
you
want
to
be
able
to
have
a
good
relationship
with
them,
because
you
want
maybe
maybe
there
they
have
some
plans
of
events
or
seminars
or
workshops
that
they
want
to
want
to
do.
N
So
it
would
be
great
that
you
create
interagency
relationships
each
one
of
you
on
this
commission
have
are
tied
to
some
other
organization,
and
so
you
want
to
be
able
to
be
that
representative
for
the
commission
and
to
to
create
the
positive
relationship
with
them
so
that
when
you
come
back
with
the
commission,
you
can
say
well.
Look
such-and-such
agency
is
talking
about
doing
an
event
on
minority
health
disparities.
N
You
want
to
be
able
to
reach
out
to
all
communities
so
that
you
can
be
able
to
see
what
is
going
on
in
in
those
communities
whether
there
are
issues
that
need
to
be
discussed
in
study
upon
reach,
important
understandings
with
all
groups
and
understand
the
community's
history
and
the
present
perceptions
in
the
community.
N
What
you
may
want
to
consider
doing
is
is
doing
a
human
relations
survey
and
sending
that
survey
out
to
all
different
types
of
people-
organizations,
businesses,
churches,
the
like
and
find
out
what
are
the
current?
What
is
the
present
perceptions
in
the
community
when
it
comes
to
human
relations
issues,
because
your
ideas
of
what's
going
on
may
be
totally
different
than
what
the
community's
perceptions
are
when
it
comes
to
human
relations
issues
in
the
city
of
asheville
next
slide.
Please
now.
N
N
Support
the
city,
city's
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
in
its
duties
and
responsibilities
provide
a
form
where
residents
can
raise
and
bring
to
the
hrca's
attention.
Issues
and
complaints
relating
to
human
relations.
Issues
in
the
city
engage
the
community
and
gather
community
input
regarding
the
utilization
of
city-funded
programs
and
policies
for
the
promotion
of
human
relations,
promote
and
improve
human
relations
and
advance
equity
and
public
safety
in
the
second
one
talks
about
the
same
thing
with
education,
art
and
cultural
opportunities.
N
The
next
one
talks
about
city
funded
economic
development
programs
and
opportunities,
and
the
last
one
talks
about
including
city
funded
health
and
human
services
programs,
and
is
there
one
more,
I
think
they
may
be
one
more
hold
on
see
yeah
number
nine,
so
you
got
nine
things,
promote
and
improve
human
relations
and
advance
equity
in
housing.
N
The
same
thing
that's
mentioned
in
your
ordinance
as
far
as
your
duties
and
responsibilities
are
the
same
things
that
are
indicated
in
your
rules
and
pos
as
rules
and
procedures
for
the
commission,
which
means
that
if
they
placed
it
in
there
twice,
this
is
what
you
are
to
do
as
a
commission.
N
N
They're
they're
the
same
thing,
even
though
they've
shortened
it
because
e
covers
five:
six:
seven,
eight
and
nine
on
the
city
ordinance.
N
The
letter
e
on
item
e
on
the
bylaws
cover
five,
six,
seven,
eight
and
nine
on
your
city,
ordinance,
okay,.
N
So,
like
I
said
earlier,
if
someone
was
to
ask
you
you
as
a
commission
member,
what
are
your
duties
and
responsibilities
as
a
commission
in
nashville?
Those
are
the
two
places
where
you
can
go
and
show
them.
These
are
the
duties
and
responsibilities
of
the
local
human
relations
commission
next
slide.
Please.
N
N
Due
to
the
growing
popularity
population
by
all
races,
national
origins,
ethnicities
coming
bur
or
birth
in
north
carolina,
they
are
growing
concerns
of
old
human
relations
issues,
constant
human
relations
issues
that
have
not
been
dealt
with
and
emerging
human
relations
issues
that
are
in
on
the
beginning
over
the
horizon.
Now
let
me
explain
something
here
what
it
says
here
due
to
the
growing
population
by
all
races,
national
origins
and
ethnicities
coming
and
burst
in
north
carolina.
N
The
birth
part
talks
about
people
who
are
born
and
raised
in
north
carolina,
and
so
what
you're
talking
about
is
you're
talking
about
a
growing
population
of
all
races,
national
origins
and
ethnicities
that
are
either
moving
here
or
they
are
born
here
and
they
stay
here
and,
as
you
know,
north
carolina
has
grown
to
be
one
of
the
fastest
growing
states
in
the
nation.
N
N
N
Here
are
some
of
the
current
trends,
statewide
trends
affecting
human
relations
in
north
carolina,
and
some
of
these
things
may
be
things
that
are
happening
in
your
city
of
asheville.
N
N
Five
human
relations
issues
that
you
feel
are
affecting
are
being
affecting
north
carolina
at
this
present
time,
and
so
these
are
the
top
five
things
that
those
commissions
provided
to
our
office.
N
The
second
human
relations
issue
in
north
carolina
is
community
relation
concerns
and
under
that
the
commissions
indicated
that
police
community
relations
is
the
number
one
issue
concerning
community
relations
concerns.
N
N
N
N
N
The
number
five
human
relations
issues.
Actually
there
are
issues
because
two
issues
were
tied
for
fifth
place
that
were
on
the
survey
and
the
first
one
was
education
concerns
and
under
that
concern
it
basically
talked
about
the
lack
of
equity
and
the
lack
of
retraining
the
workforce
through
education
or
major
issues.
Under
this
concern,.
N
N
The
retreat
needs
to
be
at
least
at
least
now
three
hours
to
be
able
to
iron
out
any
issues
concerning
what
is
discussed
at
the
retreat
list.
All
the
human
relations
issues
that
are
affecting
your
local
area
and
out
of
the
total
list
you
need
to
choose.
It
says
three,
three
or
four,
but
I
would
go
back
to
the
the
current
trends
in
list.
Five,
your
top
five
human
relations
issues
that
you
as
a
local
human
relations
commission,
agree
upon
to
focus
on
and
deal
with
as
a
local
human
relations
commission
in
asheville.
N
N
Okay
now
next
slide,
please.
N
For
example,
if
you,
if
you're
going
to
be
talking
about
housing
or
education
or
community
relations,
then
you
need
to
develop
those
those
cup
subcommittees,
and
you
need
to
make
sure
that
you
have
enough
people
on
there.
Now
it
just
depends
on
what
your
issues
are
is.
What
is
how
your
subcommittee
should
be
formed?
Okay,
but.
F
N
N
N
N
You,
as
a
commissioner
need
to
be
on
on
a
subcommittee
or
committees.
However,
all
commission
members
don't
need
to
be
on
all
subcommittees
and
another
point
that
I
need
to
make
sure
that
you
are
aware
of
and
will
take
advantage
of.
Is
that
say
that
you
have
a
subcommittee
that
is
a
housing
subcommittee?
N
Okay,
and
you
have
about
how
many
this,
what
19
members
right
or
how
many
members
you
have
19
yeah
so
say
you
have
about
five
or
six
members
of
the
commission
on
there,
but
you
need
some
more
people
on
there.
Then
what
you
would
do
is
you
would
get
somebody
get
a
couple
of
people
from
the
community
that
are
experts
in
housing,
whether
it
be
a
realtor,
a
broker,
a
developer,
a
person
in
with
the
housing
authority.
N
You
would
get
them
on
your
subcommittee
as
well,
because
what
you're
doing
you're
doing
two
things.
One
is
you're
developing
a
subcommittee
to
be
able
to
talk
about
issues
of
housing,
concerns
and
two.
You
are
also
getting
the
input
from
someone
who's
who
is
in
the
community
and
who
is
an
expert
into
into
that
area
that
you're
dealing
with
in
the
subcommittee,
which
is
housing.
N
N
N
Same
thing
with
education,
you
have
a
education
subcommittee,
then
you
would
want
to
see
if
you
can
put
people
on
there
who
have
expertise
in
education,
such
as
a
university
professor,
a
principal,
a
teacher
school
board
member,
a
superintendent,
maybe
or
an
assistant
superintendent
or
a
counselor.
N
Say
if
it's
a
community
relations
committee
subcommittee
and
you
have
a
pastor
and
you
would
have
a
business
owner
a
director
of
a
non-profit
organization-
or
you
know,
a
police,
an
executive
on
the
police
staff,
city,
police
department
or
an
executive
with
the
sheriff's
department,
along
with
commission
members
on
that
subcommittee.
N
Okay,
next
slide.
N
N
N
N
F
N
N
First
of
all,
we
can
provide
you
with
training
trainings,
and
I
said
that
before
we
can
provide
you
with
fair
housing,
training,
we're
providing
you
tonight
with
orientation
training
for
local
human
relations.
Commission.
N
We
also
can
provide
you
with
crisis
intervention
training,
and
let
me
explain
to
you
what
I
mean
by
that
we're
not
necessarily
talking
about
emergency
situations
such
as
flooding,
and
you
know
those
types
of
things.
What
we're
talking
about
is
human
relations
issues
that
could
cause
a
crisis
in
your
local
area,
such
as
murders
such
as
rallies
from
hate
groups
in
your
city,
such
as
devastating
loss
in
the
community
that
affects
racial
tensions
in
the
area.
N
Those
kinds
of
things
are
considered
to
be
human
relations,
crisis
and
crisis
intervention
or
crisis
response
training.
We
provide
that
for
you,
because
we
give
you
certain
types
of
things
that
steps
that
you
can
take
to
help
deal
with
the
crisis
before
the
crisis
deal
with
the
crisis
during
it
and
things
steps
you
can
take
after
the
crisis
has
been
over.
N
That's
the
type
of
training
that
we
can
do
and
that
type
of
that
training
we
do
is
we
give
you
exercises,
we
break
you
up
into
groups,
we
give
you
exercises
as
to
what
it
what
the
crisis
is
all
about,
and
we
ask
you
what
what
are
your
first
steps
that
you
need
to
do
as
a
commission
and
then
you?
We
also
ask
you
some
other
questions,
action,
step,
questions
that
you
need
to
take
for
that
specific
exercise.
N
N
We
talk
about
the
hate
groups
that
are
in
the
state
of
north
carolina,
and
we
also
talk
about
some
things
that
you
can
do
if
a
hate
group
was
to
come
into
your
local
area.
N
Okay,
those
are
the
types
of
trainings
that
we
can
provide
from
our
office
to
you.
The
other
thing
that
we
provide
is
crisis.
Intervention
assistance,
we've
always
been
done.
We've
always
done
that
with
local
human
relations.
Commission,
ever
since
we've
been
were
established
back
in
1963
as
a
good
neighbors
council,
we
still
provide
that
assistance
today
to
you
as
a
local
human
relations.
Commission,
we
provide
hate
crime,
buy
it
hate
bias
tracking.
In
other
words,
we
send
you
on
a
monthly
basis,
a
log.
N
N
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
tell
you
about,
and
I've
already
indicated
is
we
provide
the
quarterly
statewide
meetings
with
all
the
local
commissions,
to
update
them
to
current
trends
in
human
relations
issues
throughout
the
state
and,
like
I
said
earlier,
we've
had
two
meetings
this
year.
The
third
quarter
was
not.
We
did
not
have
one,
but
we
plan
to
have
one
in
the
fourth
quarter,
which
will
be
in
the
beginning
part
of
december.
N
Once
that
has
been
established,
we
we
send
a
a
flyer
as
well
as
an
email
out
indicating
when
and
when,
and
what
time
the
the
meeting
will
occur,
and
we
will
also
send
out
an
agenda
copy
of
the
agenda,
the
approved
agenda
of
the
meeting.
So
you
have
an
idea
as
to
what
is
discussed
at
that
meeting,
and
so
these
are
the
things
that
our
office
can
provide.
Now.
N
Another
thing,
too:
we
provide
technical
assistance
to
you
in
the
fact
that
if
there
are
certain
events
or
certain
workshops
or
seminars
you
want
to
put
on,
but
you
you're
not
sure
if
you
know
of
any
experts
that
you
that
are
that
are
needed
for
the
seminars
or
workshops
you
are
trying
to
plan
for
you
can
contact
my
office
and
we
can
provide
you
with
names
of
people
who
may
have
expertise
into
those
areas
that
you
want
to
do
the
events
or
workshops
or
seminars
on
in
your
local
area.
So
we
provide
that.
N
We
also
provide
if
you,
if
someone
provides
complaints
to
your
office,
you
know
for
any
type
of
discrimination.
N
We
can
let
you
know
where
that
that
information
can
be
sent
to
as
to
to
be
able
to
help
that
person
or
persons
out.
That
is
complaining
or
providing
a
complaint
to
you.
So
that's
the
technical
assistance
that
we
provide
to
you
as
the
state,
the
north
carolina
human
relations
commission
office
here
in
raleigh.
N
I
think
that
is
the
last
slide
if
I'm
not
mistaken.
Yep
last
slide
now
I
am
open
for
questions
and
I
thought
I
saw
one
go
across
from
somebody
that
said,
how
long
are
the
trainings.
N
It
depends
on
the
trainings
if
it's
fair
housing,
it's
about
two
and
a
half
hours.
If
it
is
a
crisis
intervention,
then
it's
another.
It's
about
a
four
and
a
half
hour
training.
The
hate
crimes
is
about
two
and
a
half
hours,
but
the
crisis
management
is
a
little
bit
longer
because
we
talk
about.
You
know
the
action
steps
before
crisis
during
the
crisis
and
after
the
crisis,
and
then
we
also
get
into
the
exercises
of
examples
we
would
give
to
each
group
so
that
they
can
work.
N
Do
the
do
the
work
for
those
exercises
that
they
are
given
and
and
directions
as
to
what
they
need
to
do
for
those
ex
those
examples,
so
that
was
about
a
four
and
a
half
hour
training
but
and
the
so
the
fair
housing
training
can
be
two
and
a
half
hours.
The
hate
crimes.
Training
is
two
and
a
half
hours,
and
the
crisis.
Intervention
or
crisis
management
training
is
about
four
and
a
half
hours,
so
those
are
the
times
of
training
type
times
that
the
training
would
take
place.
N
How
long
they
would
take
any
any
questions.
If
y'all
want
to
ask
me,
while
I'm
here
y'all
can
ask
me,
you
don't
have
to
chat,
it
just
go
ahead
and
just
ask
me.
B
Does
each
other
commissioner?
Chandler
has
raised
hands.
F
D
Thank
you
so
much
gene,
I'm
relatively
new
to
the
commission.
I
guess
since
this
year,
and
that
was
really
helpful,
especially
around
things
that
we
can
be
doing
and
what
our
expectations
are.
So
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
spending
your
your
time
walking
us
through
that.
My
questions
are
around.
I
would
really
love
additional
training,
especially
what
what
you're,
what
you're
talking
about
in
housing
and
hate
crimes
and
crisis
intervention,
particularly
around
the
part,
that's
helping
us
plan
for
our
action
steps.
D
Do
you
have
like
a
waiting
list
or
how?
How
long
would
we,
you
know,
need
to
give
you
to
to
get
ourselves
prepared
to
give
you
enough
time
to
prepare
for
those
kinds
of
trainings
for
our
team.
N
Well,
we,
what
we
do
is
we
ask
whenever
you,
as
a
commission,
decide
that
you
want
to
do
the
training,
then
email
from
brenda
would
have
to
or
tanya
would
have
to
be
sent
to
me
and
then
we
could
schedule
the
date
as
far
as
when
we
could
do
the
trainings
and
we
the
train.
Well,
I
can
tell
you
this
the
the
crisis
intervention,
when
I
would
have
to
be
there
in
person
not
necessarily
hate
crimes
or
fair
housing,
but
the
crisis
intervention.
N
I
would
definitely
need
to
be
there
because
that's
a
little
bit
more
detailed,
but
I
would
but
what
you
would
do
is
as
a
commission,
if
you
decide
you
want
to
have
the
training
you
just
you
let
brenda
and
tonya
know
they
send
me
an
email.
We
try
to
find
a
date
that
is
convenient
for
everyone
and
then
we
we
schedule
it
and
then
com
do
it
virtually
or
do
it.
If
we
do
the
crisis
intervention
that
that
would
be
in
person
we
just
have
to
be.
D
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
I
had
one
other
question
around
the
retreat
and
do
you
have
like
a
retreat
to
best
practices
or
outline
or
something
that
might
help
us
kind
of
guide,
that
process.
N
I
do
not,
because
you
know
we
what
we
do
is
we
try
to
to
inform
all
of
the
commissions
that
they
get
a
facilitator
which
brenda
and
tanya
are
trying
to
do,
and
then
there
there
is
a
they.
The
facilitator
would
develop
a
plan
as
far
as
how
to
get
to
where
you
need
to
go
and
that
facilitator
will
will
try
to
get
you.
N
N
Not
involved
with
I'm
gonna
tell
you
that
right
now,
I
have
not
been
involved
in
any
retreats
for
local
commissions,
because
what
the
reason
why
I'm
not
involved
is
because
I'm
not
from
asheville,
you
are
you
happen
to
know
what
the
issues
are
in
ashfield
and
I
don't
want
to
be
a
part
of
that.
As
far
as
trying
to
change
your
change,
what
you
want
to
do
or
give
you
any
kind
of
ideas
or
whatever,
as
far
as
what
you
need
to
look
into
as
well
as
what
you
don't
need
to
look
into.
N
There
are
issues
that
you
have
there
that
are
totally
different
than
the
issues
that
are
going
on
in
the
state.
And
so,
if
you
have
those
each
specific
issues,
then
I
don't
need
to
be
there
to
to
try
to
turn
you
away
from
those
issues
that
you
feel
are
specific
for
ashfield.
So
that's
why
I
don't
participate
in
the
retreats
and
that's
why.
N
I
also
ask
that
there's
a
facilitator
there,
as
well
as
all
of
you,
commission
members,
so
that
you
can
be
a
part
of
that
and
make
sure
that
you
you
buy
into
the
plan
that
you're
planning
to
have
for
your
commission.
N
F
E
Again,
just
echoing
what
everyone
else
said
about
just
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
being
so
thorough
with
the
information
you
mentioned
earlier
that
there's
there
was
a
survey
that
went
out
and
you
did
like
community
assessments
on
the
things
on
the
local
issues.
E
N
N
N
N
Now
I
can
tell
you
this
those
what
you
can
do,
and
I
I
can
make
this
suggestion-
and
I
think
I
may
have
made
it
to
brenda
and
tanya-
I'm
not
sure
they
may
be
shaking
their
heads
when
I
start
talking
about
it,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
you
could
suggest
could
do
I
mean
I
I
want
you
to
do
the
retreat.
Don't
get
me
wrong.
N
Do
that
retreat
and
do
do
do
the
top
five
issues
that
you
want
to
work
on,
but
one
of
the
things
that
you
need
to
do
after
you
do.
Your
retreat
is
is
possibly
send
out
a
survey
to
all
throughout
the
city
and
and
then
once
that
is
done,
you
tally
it.
N
You
give
a
report
to
the
city
council
and
then
you
might
want
to
go
back
to
your
plan
and
revise
it
a
little
bit,
but
I
want
I
you
need
to.
You
need
to
first
develop
a
plan
and
you
need
to
develop
the
list
of
the
list
of
human
relations
issues
the
top
five
first
and
then
do
the
survey
to
see
whether
you're
on
track
or
not
on
track,
if
you're
on
track.
N
F
E
Unfortunately,
with
covid
we
didn't
we
weren't
able
to
have
a
most
recent
one
sure,
but
just
to
our
commission
members,
we
went
with
desiree
attaway
as
the
facilitator
for
our
retreat
in
the
past.
Thank
you.
N
J
I
did
it
was
in
reference
to
the
issues.
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
troy,
for
taking
the
time
to
speak
to
us
to
help
us.
I
think
it's
it's
a
much
needed
guidance.
J
J
I'm
a
nurse
by
by
profession,
and
some
of
the
things
that
we
would
do
is
something
called
like
a
windshield
survey
or
a
community
survey
which
is
going
out
to
different
parts
of
of
the
city
and
and
trying
to
answer
specific
questions
about
the
community
and
getting
to
know
people
that
live
there.
But
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
any
advice
for
us
before
we
discuss
potential
issues
on
like
how
to
identify
them.
What
to
think
about
those
kinds
of
things.
N
Well,
the
the
one
of
the
things.
That's
a
good
question
alex
one
of
the
things
I
think
that
you
want
to
do
is
that
you
already
you
have
an
idea
right
now
as
to
what
what
some
of
the
issues
are.
So
you
need
to
bring
those
to
the
you
need
to
bring
those
to
the
the
retreat.
N
N
You
can
use
those
questions
to
break
down
which
ones
are
important
right
now
and
which
ones
can
be
put
off
later
and
use
those
questions
to
to
respond
to
that
that
that
would
be
able
to
help
you
out
as
far
as
identifying
which
top
five
would
be,
but
you've
got
to
bring
as
many
issues
up
front.
N
First,
before
you
can
break
down
to
get
to
the
five
and
the
questions
that
I
provided
in
the
powerpoints,
and
I
hope
you
have
a
copy
of
the
powerpoints,
those
questions
may
be
able
to
help
you
in
identifying
what
top
five
need
to
be,
what
five
need
to
be
the
top
ones.
B
I
have
a
question
gene
I
mean
this
is
just
the
best
gift
today
and
I
really
appreciate
you
coming
in
and
and
sharing
your
wisdom,
knowledge
with
us.
B
B
So
we
can,
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
talk,
but
when
it
comes
to
action
that
talk
starts
to
get
really
confused
and
everybody
has
a
different
idea
of
what
action
is,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we've
done
is
create
and
establish
recommendations
to
bring
to
city
council
that
reflect
issues
that
are
happening
within
human
relations
in
the
city.
B
So
what
are
action?
Steps
that
we
can
take
as
to
to
translate
talk
into
action.
N
Well,
that's
a
good
question.
Tanya
and
I'm
gonna
be
honest
with
you.
Everybody
asked
me
that
question
at
each
one
of
these
orientations,
so
you
I
mean
I
had
the
same
question
that
in
greenville
the
other
night.
So
that's
not
an
enough.
That's
not
a
new
question
that
I've
heard
before.
N
Let
me
just
give
you
an
example.
Okay,
there
was
one
commission
that
found
out
that
they
did
not
have
a
minimum
housing
code
in
their
city.
N
You
know
talking
about
all
of
the
cities
that
had
minimum
housing,
calls
and
examples
of
the
minimum
housing
codes
that
they
had
and
they
presented
that
to
the
city
council.
They
made
a
recommendation.
N
Look,
we
have
found
out
that
that's
not
a
minimum
housing
code
for
the
city,
and
we
have
also
found
out
that
there
are
seven
cities
that
are
similar
to
our
city,
that
do
have
minimum
housing
codes
and
we
are
recommending
that
the
minimum
housing
code
be
that
an
ordinance
deal
to
put
in
plan
or
put
an
orders,
be
voted
on,
that
there
should
be
a
minimum
housing
code
and
that
there
should
be
one
developed
and
voted
on
by
the
city
council
and
when
they
did
the
presentation,
not
only
did
they
have
the
commission
members
there,
but
they
had
already
talked
and
requested
a
lot
of
community
members
and
leaders
to
be
there
as
well
at
that
meeting
and
what
they
did
was.
N
N
They
only
had
three
people
from
the
community
come
up
and
say,
look
we're
here,
because
we
are
in
support
of
the
commission's
recommendation
of
having
a
minimum
housing
code
in
the
city
and
do
you.
I
guess
you
already
know
the
result
of
what
happened,
but
the
result
was
that
that
city
ended
up
the
city
council
ended
up
voting
for
a
minimum
housing
code
and
developed
one.
N
All
city
councils
are
not
the
same
in
all
city
councils
may
not
accept.
Your
recommendation,
however,
do
not
be
disappointed
if
they
do
not
make
consider
and
vote
on
your
recommendation,
but
be
of
good
cheer,
because
you
have
done
your
job,
because
the
duty
that
is
indicated
in
your
bylaws
and
in
your
ordinance
says
that
you
are
to
monitor
your
study
and
recommend
to
the
city
council.
N
N
B
Thank
you
very
much.
I
believe,
commissioner
brenner
had
their
hand
up,
and
then
commissioner
tiffany.
H
N
H
A
good
question
because
I'm
down
with
a
lot
of
what
you're
talking
about,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
some
of
the
issues
need
to
have
a
lead
on
them
and
we
are
part
of
our
charter
is
to
support
a
robust
office
of
equity
and
inclusion.
N
Origins
that
is
correct.
Let
me
tell
you
which
ones
right
now.
I
can
tell
you,
which
ones
that
have
an
office
of
equity,
inclusion,
durham,
city
of
durham.
N
I
know
winston
is
just
recent.
Oh
and
the
city
of
fayetteville
is
in
the
process
of
establishing
one
city
of
fayetteville
and
county
cumberland
counties
in
the
process
of
starting
one,
because
the
director
or
interim
director
for
the
fayetteville
cumberland
human
relations,
commission
and
department.
N
She
just
finished
her
pro
program
that
she
had
to
go
through
in
order
to
have
the
certificate
certification
to
be
able
to
run
a
office
of
equity
and
inclusion.
So
I
know
that
they're
in
the
process
of
developing
an
equity
office
of
equity
and
inclusion,
but
those
are
the
places
so
far
in
this
in
the
state
that
do
have
cities
in
the
state
that
do
have
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
at
their
places.
E
My
question
is
around
I'm
going
back
to
the
slide
when
you
mention
some
things
that
we
could
like
partake
in,
which
is
to
become
a
hate
violence,
information
network.
E
So,
as
as
an
astral
human
relations
commission,
how
can
we
position
ourselves
to
become
a
hate,
violence,
information
network.
N
You
would
have
to
vote
on
it
as
a
group
to
see
whether
you
want
to
be
a
part
of
it.
What
I
can
do
is
send
you
I
can
send
you,
the
hate
group
hate.
What
is
it?
The
hate
group
and
hate
activity
log
form,
and
I
can
also
send
you
a
copy
of
the
2021
hate
group-
bias
incidents
log
to
give
you
an
idea
what
what
incidences
are
being
reported
in
north
carolina
and
and
right
now.
N
I
can
give
you
a
list
of
the
commissions
that
are
in
the
network.
E
N
Yeah,
I
would,
I
would
suggest
this,
and
this
is
where
the
technical
assistance
comes
in-
is
that
any
type
of
employment
discrimination
that
is
being
occurred
at
a
place
that
has
a
staff
of
at
least
15
or
more
people?
H
N
The
reason
being
because
there's
not
a
state
law
that
allows
a
state
agency
to
investigate
employment
discrimination
other
than
our
office,
and
we
we
investigate
state
employees,
claims
of
discrimination
of
employment,
but
as
far
as
businesses,
the
eeoc
is
the
office
that
would
do
that,
and-
and
there
is
a
provision
under
the
civil
rights
act
for
employment
discrimination-
that
there
should
not
be
any
type
of
harassment
or
any
type
of
coercion
or
threats
or
intimidation
at
the
work
site.
This.
N
This
is
plain
and
simple,
because
there's
there's
also
a
similar
provision
under
the
fair
housing
act
where
it
talks
about
that
there
there
should
be
no
threats
of
intimidation,
harassment
or
coercion
from
anyone
from
a
person
who
has
a
racial
harassment
that
is
receiving
threats,
either
from
a
neighbor
from
a
landlord
from
a
property
manager
from
a
building
maintenance
person
to
whomever
that's
the
similar
position
of
provision
in
the
under
the
federal,
fair
housing
act,
as
well
as
under
the
civil
rights
act
for
employment.
N
So
you're
right,
you
would
not
be
able
to
do
it
because
that's
one
thing
you
cannot
do
as
a
commission,
you
can't
enforce
those
laws,
but
you
can
refer
them
to
other
agencies
or
other
organizations
that
can
do
something
about
it
and
that's
that's!
N
So,
even
though
you
couldn't
enforce
it,
you
still
know
have
a
resource
or
resources
or
can
find
out
from
me
where
those
resources
they
need
to
go
as
far
as
to
go
to
those
resources
to
get
that
done.
N
O
Gene,
if
I
may
also
just
add
to
your
thorough
explanation
there,
that
on
top
of
those
resources,
we
also
have
a
local
non-discrimination,
ordinance,
which
is
passed
by
the
city
council,
that
expands
the
protections
all
the
way
down
to
even
one
or
two
employees
of
a
business
whereby,
through
our
office
of
equity
inclusion
in
conjunction
with
the
city
attorney's
office,
we
will
investigate
complaints
of
discrimination
for
a
variety
of
categories,
including
race,
in
both
public
accommodations
and
in
private
employment.
N
And
brad,
I'm
glad
you
mentioned
that,
because
I
was
just
told
like
last
week
that
all
of
the
office
of
equity
inclusions
are
now
going
to
their
city
councils
and
coming
up
with
that
ordinances
in
their
local
areas,
so
that
they
can
be.
They
can
begin
to
look
into
employment
discrimination
cases.
So
I
appreciate
you
telling
me
reminding
me
of
that.
N
I
was
just
told
last
week
as
a
matter
of
fact:
wake
county
just
adopted
it
theirs
last
week
and
raleigh
is
in
the
process
of
doing
theirs,
so
and
winston-salem
has
already
done
theirs
as
well
as
durham
they've
done
theirs
and
greensboro's
in
the
process
and
fayetteville
cumberland's
in
the
process.
So
I
appreciate
you
tell
reminding
me
of
that.
I
totally
forgot
that,
but
yeah
you're
right
because
they
have
those
the
cities
have
those
ordinances,
including
asheville.
F
N
That
process
would
be
through
brad's
office
and
and
aaron's
office.
You
would
have
to
ask
them
what
kind
of
process
that
they've
got
in
place
if
they
got
one,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
places
don't
even
have
a
process
in
place
yet
they're
developing
processes,
because
this
is
total.
This
is
a
totally
new
thing.
That's
happening
across
the
state,
so
the
process
would
have
to
go
through
brad
and
aaron,
possibly
as
far
as
you
know
what
what
procedures
are
with
that
process.
N
So
you
would
need
to
talk
with
them
about
that,
but
I,
like
I
said
earlier.
I
do
know
that
all
the
other
places
are
developing
processes.
As
far
as
if
any
complaints
come
to
them
concerning
the
city,
then
they
they're
they're
developing
that
process,
as
we
speak
because
a
lot
of
them
like
I
said
earlier,
those
cities
that
I
just
told
you
about
they've
already
either
had
their
ordinance
their
ordinance
passed
through
the
city.
N
But
I
don't
know
whether
they've
all
they've
already
developed
the
process
to
as
far
as
receiving
complaints
yet,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
they're
doing
it,
because
if
the
cities
have
already
voted
on
it
and
said
yes,
then
they've
got
to
have
a
process
in
place
in
order
to
get
that
done.
C
And
madam
chair,
I
will
jump
in
and
just
say
that
there
is
a
current
process.
B
Wonderful
and
for
the
public
is
there
a
process
to
do
that
anonymously?
If
fear
of
retaliation
is
present.
C
C
However,
our
office,
as
well
at
in
conjunction
with
ms
mills
office,
work
conjointly
in
order
to
investigate
the
complaints
and
and
move
forward
with
with
any
complaint,
that's
received
with
the
city,
and
if
anyone
has
any
questions,
they
can
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
ms
mills
or
myself
or
brad
if
they
have
any
questions
about
the
process
or
any
concerns
or
if
they
just
want
prior
to
completing
a
complaint.
Just
have
some
some
preliminary
questions
about
the
process.
B
I
N
N
I
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
kids
are
being
targeted.
Well,
this
will
just
be
as
point
blank
as
possible.
A
lot
of
the
black
kids
have
been
targeted
by
the
principals
at
irwin.
High
school
they've
been
written
up,
they
get
more
referrals
than
the
white
other
students
they've
been
singled
out,
and
I
mean
this
right
now,
what
they
don't.
What
this
what's
happening
is
it's
gonna
affect
them
getting
into
colleges
and
it's
going
to
affect
them
period.
F
I
N
N
See,
that's
that's
gonna,
be
that's
gonna,
be
a
problem
because
if
it's
not
in
the
city,
then
they're
gonna
question:
why
is
the
city
city
commission
wanting
to
deal
with
the
high
school?
That's
outside
of
the
city.
N
I
understand
I
definitely
understand
that
commissioner
young,
but
let
me
let
me
do
this.
Let
me
let
me
ponder
on
it
and
then
let
me
get
back
to
brenda
and
tanya
about
that,
because
even
though
you
as
a
commission,
are
designated
for
the
city,
there
may
be
some
outside
steps
that
you
can
do
to
deal
to
try
to
see
what
you
can
do
to
deal
with
that
issue,
even
though
it's
not
necessarily
a
city,
a
school,
that's
in
the
city.
N
Okay,
that,
let
me
can
y'all,
send
me
that
information
so
that
I
can
touch
base
with
them
to
see
where
they're
at
those
kinds
of
things.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Melanie
noyes
as
their
hand.
L
Hi,
yes,
thank
you,
mr
troy,
so
much
for
being
here,
I
feel
more
oriented
already.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
Something
in
excel
that
I
think
most
books
here
can
agree
is
a
huge
issue
is
affordable
housing.
N
Laughing
because
it's
the
same
question
I
got
on
thursday
night
from
the
commission
in
pitt
county.
I
cannot
name
of
a
city
right
now
that
you
could
go
to.
However,
what
I
can
do
is
provide
you
with
a
an
agency
that
talks
about
the
positive
positives
of
having
affordable
housing
in
your
local
area,
the
north
carolina
housing
finance
agency
back
in
2018,
when
we
first
started
doing
the
statewide
meetings
for
the
local
commissions.
N
One
of
the
first
meetings
we
had
was,
with
the
north
carolina
fund
housing
finance
agency,
talking
about
what
are
the,
what
are
the
positive
items
concerning
having
affordable
housing
in
a
city
and
they
named
them,
and
they
also
indicated
that
they
have
those
things
listed
on
their
website
and
so,
and
they
are
also
willing
to
provide
you
with
information
and
guidance
as
far
as
we're
not
guidance
but
information
that
they
have
concerning
the
positives
of
having
affordable
housing
in
the
city,
and
so
like
I
said,
I
can't
give
you.
N
N
The
the
issue
now
is
that
when
you
have
essential,
workers
are
now
having
a
problem
being
able
to
find
affordable
housing
in
the
city
they're
not
having
to
move
out
of
the
city,
because
they're
being
the
houses
are
overpriced
right
now
I
could
sell
my
house
now
for
hundred
thousand
dollars
more
than
what
it's
worth
all,
because
of
the
reason
why
google
and
apple
and
amazon
are
either
moving
here
or
are
already
here,
because
you've
already
got
those
three
businesses.
N
The
prices
of
the
housing
has
just
gone
crazy,
and
so
that's
why,
in
the
current
trends
in
north
carolina
that
I
showed
y'all,
affordable
housing
is
no
one.
Is
the
nut
top
priority
right
now
or
top
issue
in
housing,
but
also
one
of
the
top
issues
in
north
carolina?
Now?
I
know
that
there
are.
I
think
there
are
some
places
that
are
trying
to
come
up
with
ideas,
but
as
far
as
actual
plans
in
place,
I
don't
know
of
any
cities
right
now
that
have
that.
N
However,
what
I,
what
I
can
do
is
what
I
can
do
is
ask
those
cit
commissions
that
are
on
the
list
to
see
whether
they
have
any
anybody
in
their
areas
have
any
plans
for
affordable
housing
in
their
cities
and
get
that
information
back
to
you,
so
that
you
can
have
an
idea
as
to
whether
they
are
there
are
cities
that
are
actually
implementing
affordable
housing
plans.
A
I
just
want
to
follow
up
with
mr
jean's
comments
is
that
you
have
a
community
development
office
upon
the
office
of
community
and
economic
development.
We
have
a
plan
folks.
I
think
the
idea
is
for
us
to
bring
folks
in
the
staff
and
talk
to
you
about
what
our
comprehensive
plan
is
see.
This
is
what
you
know.
A
This
is
why
we're
glad
mr
gene
is
here
because,
let's
not
make
assumptions
we're
not
doing
something
we
are,
and
we've
been
doing
it
for
over
30
years,
but
I
think
just
understanding
what
that
process
is
what
we've
recommended
to
city
council.
You
know
we
have
a
216
bond
that
had
our
34
million
dollars
in
it
we're
working
with
community
land
trust,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
going
on.
A
You
have
an
affordable
housing,
a
commission
that
makes
recommendations
to
council,
so
I
think
bringing
them
in
to
kind
of
talk
to
you
about
how
it
all
works
would
be
great,
because
I
think
that
that
would
be
helpful
and
I'm
commissioner
young
popped
out.
I
don't
know
if
he
had
a
problem
with
his
video.
A
Let's,
let's
bring
in
some
folks
to
talk
about
what
are
they
going
to
do?
You
know
what
are
they
doing
in
terms
of
school
policies?
So
maybe
we
can
talk
to
the
superintendents.
A
You
know
as
a
board
of
the
city
as
a
board
of
the
county
to
kind
of
see,
so
I
think
educating
yourselves,
that's
going
to
be
a
large
part
of
you
know
your
year
next
year
is
really
finding
out
what
what
do
we
do
now
and
what
can
we
recommend
to
be
added
to
what
is
already
being
done
to
support?
You
know
the
work
that
these
folks
are
doing
and
it's
a
lot
going
on
and
I
know
it's
hard
to
keep
up
with,
but
we
can
identify
some
of
that
during
your
retreat
and.
N
Melanie
and
brenda-
let
me
just
add
this
part
to
melanie's
part
or
question
that
office
that
she
mentioned
the
office
of
was
the
community
and
what
brenda?
What
was
it
community
economic
development
that
office
right
there?
They
have.
N
They
have
to
do
a
fair
housing
plan
exactly
they
are
required
to
do
a
fair
housing
plan
and
they
also
are
required
to
do
affordable,
fair
housing
plans
as
well
by
hood,
not
by
us
by
hood.
N
They
are
to
develop
a
plan,
and
so
brenda
has
made
a
great
suggestion
that
you-
and
that
might
be
one
of
your
subcommittee's
housing
subcommittee-
that
the
subcommittee
come
in
and
ask
them
to
come
in
and
talk
to
you
about
what
kind
of
affordable
housing
plans
are
put
or
are
are
being
employed
are
considered.
N
And
what
can
we
do
to
help
if,
if
they
have
a
plan
in
place
as
a
commission,
because
you
could
probably
make
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
and
say
look,
we
spoke
with
the
office
of
economic
development
and
planning?
I'm
sorry,
I
don't,
I
always
say
economic
development,
epic,
economic
planning
and
talk
with
them,
and
they
told
us
they
have
an
affordable
housing
plan
in
place
and
we
are.
N
We
are
recommending
that
the
city
move
forward
with
that
affordable
housing
plan
and
make
sure
that
when
you
do
present
it
to
them
that
you
got
the
community
support
on
it
as
well
that
you
let
everybody
know
that
hey
you
know
we're
getting
ready
to
make
this
recommendation.
N
Are
you
in
for
this
or
not
a
lot
of
them
are
going
to
be
because
that's
the
money,
that's
that's
their
pockets,
that
they're
talking
about
and
if
there's
an
affordable
plan
in
place
and
they're
going
to
be
people
that
are
going
to
be
interested
in
wanting
to
buy
those
those
affordable,
housing,
housing
that
they're
putting
in
place
so
yeah,
that's
another
thing
that
you
may
want
to
consider
doing,
but
they
are
required.
They
are
required
by
hud
to
follow
a
fair
housing
plan
as
well
as
trying
to
develop
affordable.
N
They
call
it
affordable,
affordable
furthering
for
afford.
I
can't
even
think
it'll
come
to
me,
but
if
there
is
a
there's,
an
acronym
for
it-
and
I
can't
think
of
it
right
now,
but
it
is
talking
about
fair
housing
and
affordable
housing.
B
Thank
you.
I
believe
commissioner
tiffany
is.
E
Just
fyi,
I
put
the
link
to
the
buncombe
county
equity
work
group
just
for
anyone
who
just
want
to
jump
in
there
and
just
see
what
they're
doing
pertaining
to
the
buncombe
county
schools
gene
going
back
to
when
we
have
to
come
together
as
a
commission
and
have
our
retreat
and
decide
on
our
human
relation
issues.
E
Is
it
best
practice
or
a
good
idea
to
pull
or
to
look
at
our
ordinance
and
those
key
components
in
our
ordinance
and
draw
from
there?
Rather
than
making
up
new
ideas.
N
Yeah,
I
would
definitely
you
definitely
need
to
have
your
ordinance.
You
definitely
have
to
need
your
bylaws
there
and
you
definitely
should
develop
your
plan
around
some
of
the
things
of
the
things
that
are
mentioned
in
the
bylaws
and
ordinance.
That's
what
happened
with
a
lot
of
that's?
What's
that's
what
the
commissions
did
when
they
had
their
retreats
is
that
they
brought
in
their
ordinance
they
bought
in
that
brought
in
their
bylaws
and
they
talked
about.
What's
what
is
it
indicating
on
those
bylaws?
N
What
are
the
duties
that
are
mentioned
in
the
bilos
and
in
the
ordinance
and
they
developed
the
plan
and
they
put
action
steps
to
towards
those
things
that
they
indicated
in
their
plan
so
yeah?
I
would
definitely
suggest
that
you
consider
those
duties
and
responsibilities
as
a
part
of
your
plan
and
in
developing
those
human
relations
issues.
B
I
Yes,
jane,
he
was
talking
about
that.
We
can
help
with.
I
I
I
So
I
mean
it's
like
when
we
do
share
these
problems
to
the
city
council
numbers.
Nothing
is
done.
N
F
N
Be
something
that
might
be
something
that
we
can
be
considered
as
far
as
a
possible
minimum
housing
code
issue,
but
I
don't
know
what
what
the
minimum
housing
code
says.
It
would
have
to
be
looked
into
to
see
whether
to
see
if
it
meets
the
minimum
housing
code
or
not.
I'm
talking
about
the
property
you're
talking
about
so
I
I
I'm
not
sure,
but
that
might
be
something
that
may
may
be
considered
in
that
kind
of
a
situation
brent
did
you
brenda
have.
A
Hands
up
I
did.
I
want
to
encourage
all
of
you
if
there
are
complaints
that
are
within
the
city
and
if
you
don't
know
who
to
call,
you
can
send
those
directly
to
me
because
we
do
have
a
minimum
housing
code.
We
have
russell
rowe
deals
with
landlords,
I'm
not
sure
if
I
heard
him
correctly
because
his
weapons-
I
don't
know
if
he
said
it-
was
the
housing
authority
or
if
he
just
said
a
house,
but
we
can
that
can
be
reported.
A
The
address
and
all
that
stuff
can
be
reported
and
the
owner
will
be
made
to
put
the
house
up
the
code
or
the
folks,
you
know,
and
then
maybe
we
can
get
them
some
assistance
to
live
someplace
else.
If
there's
a
problem,
commissioner
young,
I
was
saying
that
if,
as
you
have
issues
with
other,
if
you
have
issues
where
people
need
some
assistance-
and
you
don't
know
what
to
call
just
send
those
to
me-
and
can
I
ask
y'all
not
to
chat
because
this
is
a?
A
N
L
Yeah
you
had
mentioned
that
something
else
that
we
are
able
to
do
is
ask
for
funding
for
different
programs.
Yes
in
the
city,
is
that
something
that
we
would
write
and
ask
for
and
then
and
then
city
council
would
vote
on
whether
or
not
to
approve
that
funding.
That
seems
pretty
basic,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
the
process
of
asking
for
funds.
N
Oh
well,
first
of
all,
one
of
the
things
is,
is
that
okay,
do
you
happen
to
have
a
copy
of
the
summit?
Some
some
activities,
local
human
relations
commissions,
do
y'all.
Have
that
with
you?
N
I
hope
you
do.
What
that
list
is,
is
a
list
of
activities
that
other
commissions
have
done
across
the
state.
Okay,
so
all
I
did
was
write
down
what
kinds
of
events
or
workshops
or
seminars
that
could
be
done,
that
you
can
do
now.
I'm
I'm
not
sure
that
I
don't
know
you
know.
You're
gonna
have
to
talk
to
brenda
and
aaron
and
brad
as
to
what
kinds
of
funds
you
got.
N
Okay,
so
I
don't
know
because
I-
and
I
don't
want
to
know-
I
don't
want
to
know,
but
but
what
you
do
have
to
do
is
see
what
types
of
funds
you
have
and
then
go
from
there.
Now
I
can
tell
you
some
of
the
things
that
you
can
do
is
not
there's
not
going
to
be
that
much
money,
but
then
they're
going
to
be
other
things
that
you
do,
that
you
probably
are
going
to
need
money,
but
it
just
depends
on
what
you're
you're
planning
to
want
to
do.
N
You
know
if
you,
if
you're
planning,
to
have
a
seminar
on
fair
housing
it
doesn't
that
doesn't
take
very
much.
You
know
you
can
have
that
at
a
city
building-
and
you
have
you
know
technology
or
you
don't
even
have
to
have
an
ability.
You
have
a
virtual,
so
that
doesn't
cost
very
much.
N
International
festival,
right
and
you're,
inviting
all
these
different
cultures
to
come
and
have
a
booth
at
a
city
park
and
they're,
giving
out
they're
not
giving
out.
But
there
are
people
can
come
and
try
their
the
different
types
of
food
from
every
booth
from
every
type
of
culture
there,
and
you
know,
they're
gonna
cost
because
you
know
they.
First
of
all,
they're
going
to
people
want
to
pay
for
the
food,
but
also
they
want
to
have
probably
have
to
pay
for
their
time
to
be
there.
N
N
So
that's
something
that
you
would
have
to
talk
with
as
far
as
brenda
is
concerned,
because
she
would
then
need
to
look
into
what
how
much
you
have
and
how
much
you
can
use
to
be
able
to
to
move
forward.
The
other
thing
is
two
things
that
come
to
mind.
Is
that
by
you?
N
As
a
commission
I
mean
you,
you
have
the
ability
to
do
the
events,
the
workshops
and
the
seminars,
but
not
only
that
you
know
if
you
are
actually
doing
what
you're,
what
the
bylaws
and
the
ordinances
is
has
instructed
you
to
do,
and
you
have
provided
some
events
and
seminars
and
workshops
to
the
community.
N
Then
there
may
be
some.
You
have
and
you've
done
some
some
done
those
events
and
you
want
to
do
more,
but
you
see
that
the
money
is
not
enough.
Then
you
will
be
able
to
report.
You
have
to
have
an
annual
report
to
the
city
council
and
you
have
to
report
to
them
as
to
what
it
is
you
did
and
then
you
would
say
well,
these
are
some
things
we
want
to
do,
but
it's
going
to
cost
this
amount
of
money
which
we
don't
have.
Can
we
get
this
kind
of
money?
N
And
if
you
have
done
what
you
say
what
you
have
been
required
to
do
by
the
city
ordinance
and
the
bylaws
that
you
have,
and
you
can
prove
that
you
are
using
that
money
wisely
to
prevent
you
know
sponsor
or
co-sponsor
those
events.
N
L
N
Yeah
I've
seen
job
fairs.
I've
also
seen
I
shared
this
with
tanya
and
brenda.
I've
also
seen
fair
housing
fairs
or
housing
fairs,
where
you
have
a
place
where
you
you
bring
in
creditors,
mortgage
loan,
people,
brokers,
realtors,
and
you
invite
people
that
are
interested
in
buying
housing
to
that
to
that
fare
out
to
the
housing
fair
and
they
go
to
those
booths
and
talk
to
them
about
their
credit,
talk
to
them
about
getting
a
loan.
The
city
has
a
you
know,
first-time
homeowners
program,
I'm
pretty
sure.
N
If
they
don't
have
one
banks
do
credit
unions,
do
you
can
invite
them
there
and
a
lot
of
people
go
to
those
things
to
see
if
they're
eligible
to
be
able
to
buy
a
house
and
that's
more
tax
money
to
the
city
if
they
can
buy
so
what
you're
doing
is
you're
helping
the
city
trying
to
get
more
homeowners
in
order
for
them
to
be
able
to
pay
more
taxes
to
the
city
to
buy
the
home,
so
yeah
I've
seen
job
fairs,
I've
seen
housing
fairs,
I
mean
all
kinds
of
fares,
so
yeah,
but
there
is
a
list.
N
I
hope
you
have
that
list
and
you
can
take
a
look
at
it
and
what
I
did
is
I
I
I
I
stole
some
ideas
from
them
in
order
for
them
to,
for
other
commissions,
to
do
events,
and
so
and
sometimes
in
this,
in
this
line
of
work,
you
don't
necessarily
create
you
actually
rip
off
ideas
from
other
commissions
and
they
do
work.
They
do
actually
work.
N
N
Well,
if
no
more
questions,
I
appreciate
the
time
that
you've
given
me,
and
I
appreciate
your
attentiveness
and
I'm
here.
If
you
need,
you
know,
if
you
need
any
technical
assistance
or
any
kind
of
assistance,
I
am
here.
Brenda
and
tanya
have
my
number
and
my
email
address
she.
They
can
give
them
to
you.
N
As
a
matter
of
fact,
if
you
have
a
copy
of
the
presentation
that
I
gave
today,
my
email
and
my
telephone
numbers
are
indicated
on
the
at
the
last
page
of
the
presentation,
and
if
you
want
to
get
in
contact
with
me,
you
can
either
by
phone
or
email.
If
I'm
not
here,
leave
a
message
and
I
will
get
back
to
you
as
soon
as
possible,
but
I
appreciate
the
time
this
evening
to
be
able
to
present
to
you
this
information.
N
H
N
One
last
thing:
one
last
thing
before
I
go:
I
do
want
to
tell
you
this
local,
all
the
commission
members
that
are
listening,
two
things
that
I
would
like
to
tell
you
in
order
for
this
commission
to
be
successful.
N
N
Okay,
this
is
from
experience.
I've
had
commissions
who
members
on
their
commissions
that
had
egos
and
their
commissions
did
not
succeed.
All
because
of
the
egos
of
the
members
that
were
on
the
commission
and
those
commissions
are
no
longer
in
existence,
and
so
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure.
I
told
you
tonight,
because
when
you
succeed,
all
the
other
local
commissions
succeed
as
well.
N
Okay,
because
all
the
look
other
local
commissions
are
excited
to
know
that
asheville
has
a
human
relations
commission
and
that
asheville
is
going
to
going
to
try
to
work
as
hard
as
they
can
to
deal
with
the
human
relations
issues
that
are
affecting
the
city
of
asheville,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
this
field.
They
have
a
lot
of
experience
dealing
with
human
relations
issues.
N
B
Y'all
gene
is
a
really
good
resource
and
I
encourage
you
to
reach
out
to
him
as
much
as
you
can
for
whatever
things
that
come
up,
because
he
is
there
and
he
does
this
work
in
a
way-
that's
heart-centered
and
and
heartfelt
and
and
led
by
his
heart.
But
he's
he's
no
bs
too.
You
know
he
keeps
it
real,
which
is
a
real
important
part
to
reel
in
the
the
the
passion
you
know,
and
then
he
brings
that
into
direction.
B
So
so
please
reach
out
to
him,
connect
with
him
and
and
yeah.
Thank
you
all
for
showing
up
for
this
presentation
today,
commissioner
tiffany
dublo.
E
B
And
thank
you
to
me
for
bringing
him
in.
B
B
So,
moving
on,
we
have
next
item
up
for
business
new
business.
There
is
none
right
now,
probably
most
likely
we'll
move
to
a
space
of
organizing
a
retreat.
I
believe
we
can
do
that
by
doodle
poll,
which
will
probably
be
sent
out
in
the
next
week
or
so
to
figure
out
when
when
that
would
be
the
best
time
next
item
up
for
business,
is
staff
updates
reparation
nomination
and
applica
application
process?
It's
due
november
1st
brenda
mills
you've
got
the
mic.
A
I'm
going
to
encourage
each
of
you
to
take
that
survey
to
go
in
there
to
review
those
there's
a
three
packages,
there's
one
for
anyone
who
has
an
interest.
They
don't
necessarily
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
board
or
be
nominated
by
a
neighborhood,
but
they
want
to
offer
some
resource
or
information
to
the
commission
during
the
19
20
months
that
we're
working
and
then
there's
a
nomination
form
for
neighborhoods.
We've
been
really
centering
in
on
the
historically
impacted,
african-american
neighborhoods,
and
then
there's
one
for
people
in
the
five
focus
area
impact
areas.
A
So
those
will
be
vetted
by
the
city,
council
and
border
commissioners
and
then
the
other,
maybe
update
or
just
some
information.
I
know
having
a
retreat
before
five
is
difficult,
because
a
lot
of
people
are
still
at
work.
I
know
miss
venable
was
still
at
work,
I'm
sure
some
other
people,
I
think
some
other
people
were
traveling,
so
I'm
gonna
suggest
since
during
the
day
I'm
wondering
if
you
would
be
amiable
to
having
a
retreat
on
a
saturday.
A
Because
I
mean
three
hours
at
five
o'clock
in
the
evening
is
a
lot
even
for
me,
so
it's
only
once
we're
not
talking
about
meeting
every
month,
I'll
put
out
some
dates
and
we'll
just
see
how
we
go,
because
I
don't
want
to
interrupt
people's
work
hours.
A
I
know
everybody
can't
just
get
off
work
and
be
here
at
four
o'clock,
so
we
want
to
honor
that
so,
if,
if
that's
something
you
can
do
and
please
everyone
respond
to
the
doodle
poll,
because
that
way
we
know
you
know
what
you
can
and
cannot
do
and
then
we'll
just
kind
of
figure
out
something
that
would
work
best
for
for
most
people.
Okay,
so-
and
that's
all,
I
have.
B
Thank
you
brenda
next
item
up
for
business,
unfinished
business.
There
is
none
on
the
agenda.
H
Yeah
I
had
a
question
for
brenda.
I
was
wondering
if
there'd
been
any
movement
on
the
hiring
in
of
the
outstanding
positions
for
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion,.
A
Yes,
this
is
brendan
mills,
death
liaison,
I'm
in
the
I'm
in
the
process.
Human
human
relations
has
looked
at
the
applications
I
got
over.
I
think
I
got
almost
150.,
so
you
can
imagine
between
doing
reparations.
I
have
a
lot
going
on,
so
I'm
going
to
finish
those
up
get
those
back
to
hr
this
week
and
then
we're
going
to
be
setting
up
phone
interviews
for
all
three
of
the
positions
so
hoping
to
have
some
people
to
make
offers
too
by
the
end
of
november.
B
B
Do
we
have
any
community
announcements
to
bring
to
the
public
today,
commissioner,.
D
D
If
you
would
like
to
attend,
hang
out
and
meet
some
of
our
equity
networking
partners,
it's
at
the
chamber
of
commerce
at
36,
montford
avenue,
downtown
you're,
welcome
to
come,
have
a
drink
girl
go
cook
is
catering
and
I
couldn't
be
more
excited
about
it.
I
don't
know
if
y'all
know
robin,
I
think,
she's
awesome,
but
anyhow,
so
the
equity
diversity
institute
for
lenora
university
ribbon
cutting
tomorrow,
it's
between
four
and
six,
probably
most
of
it
will
be
over
around
4
45.
D
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Chandler.
Are
there
other
community
announcements,
commissioner,
melanie
neues.
L
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
let
people
know
that
a
couple
weeks
ago,
if
you
didn't
already
know
homework
bound,
was
able
to
sign
the
contract
to
actually
own
the
property
over
at
the
old
days
in
so
it
is
theirs.
Now
they
can
start
doing
renovations.
L
G
B
Moving
on
to
our
next
item
up
for
business,
which
is
live
public
comment,
did
we
have
anybody
in
the
queue
or
did
anybody
write
in.
A
B
Wonderful
I'd
like
to
take
this
moment
to
welcome
our
new
commissioners.
Harvey
commissioner
harvey
harold
and
looks
like
mara
commissioner
marilyn
brainer.
B
Linked
out,
but
commissioner
harvey
harold
welcome
to
the
human
human
relations
commission
and
it's
good
to
have
you
on
board
and
and
the
mike
is
james.
K
Yes,
thank
you.
I
had
some
problems
getting
in.
I
probably
missed
about
20
25
minutes
at
a
meeting,
but
I
was
determined
to
get
in
I'm
a
veteran.
I
got
that
in
me
and,
like
I
said,
I'm
glad
to
be
here
and
hopefully
I'll
be
a
welcome
addition
to
the
commission-
and
I
say
I'm
glad
to
be
here
to
contribute.
B
If
there's
no
other
item
up
no
other
business
item
on
the
agenda
beyond
future
agenda
items
which
we
can
discuss
in
the
retreat,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
adjourn.
H
B
Second,
roll
call
vote,
commissioner,
alex
nava.
J
J
H
B
Commissioner,
dolores
manova,
yes,
commissioner,
susie
chandler,
yes,
commissioner,
melanie
noyes.