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A
B
C
We
can
go
ahead
with
that;
they
will
call.
D
B
All
right
so
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
revisit
the
previous
motion
that
was
on
the
floor
made
by
ms
rodriguez.
They
had
a
second
from
miss
coy,
so
we're
gonna.
Do
a
roll
call
for
a
vote
on
that
motion
and
the
motion
again
was
to
I'm
sorry.
I
lost
my
thread
here:
miss
rodriguez.
Could
you
state
your
motion
again
for
the
board?
Please.
E
It's
in
the
chat
motion
to
suspend
the
rules
and
move
item;
five,
a
b
to
position
four
in
respect
to
robert's
rules
where
committee
reports
come
before
unfinished
business.
B
G
B
So
we'll
move
on
to
item
five,
which
is
new
business
under
that
we
have
two
two
issues:
the
first
one
being
the
advanced
monument
statement
and
we
had
a
work
group
that
was
assigned
to
that.
I
believe
so.
I'm
gonna
let
those
folks
report
back
to
the
board
their
findings
and
what
the
suggestions
are.
E
We
had
a
really
wonderful
working
group
experience,
everybody
that
participated
in
the
working
group
and
contributed
to
the
working
group.
I
very
much
appreciate
all
of
the
things
that
all
of
you
have
brought
and
all
the
information,
including
the
people
that
were
in
the
vance
monument
task
force
and
also
people
of
the
community
in
asheville
that
are
impacted
the
most
by
the
vance
monument.
E
Their
feedback
and
recommendations
helped
us
create
this
recommendation
to
city
council
in
solidarity
with
the
vance
monument
task
force's
decision
to
remove
the
monument
I
move
to
present
the
recommendation
to
city
count,
recommendation
to
city
council
made
by
the
working
group
in
solidarity
with
the
advanced
monument
task
force
decision
to
remove
the
vance
monument
now
get
a
second.
G
B
Okay
and
one
more
just
for
the
rep
for
the
record
miss
on
rodriguez.
You
said
you
made
a
motion
to
approve
the
recommendation.
E
B
E
The
recommendation
from
the
working
group
is
as
follows.
We,
the
aforementioned
members
of
the
human
relations
commission
of
asheville,
henceforth
known
as
the
hrca
stand
in
solidarity
with
the
vance
monument
task
force's
decision
to
remove
the
vance
monument
from
its
current
location
and
hereby
offer
a
formal
recommendation
to
the
asheville
city
council.
E
To
recommend
to
city
council.
B
E
I
No
they!
No.
This
will
staff
will
present
information
on
the
bids
to
remove
the
monument
and
additional
information
about
the
next
phase.
If
you
will
for
council
consideration,
so
that
won't
be
done
until
next
tuesday
at
their
next
city
council
meeting
they'll
discuss
it
that
night.
A
B
I
can
be
in
agreement
with
is
with
the
ordinance.
This
is
just
some
thoughts
that
I
have
90
days
from
today
is
one
of
the
issues,
the
only
issues
that
I
have
with
this,
because,
I
wonder,
is
it
possible
to
be
able
to
do
this
within
90
days
and
if
that
language
in
itself
is
more
of
an
ask,
a
recommendation
or
demand.
B
J
K
Yes,
I
got
a
few
questions
so
when
we
submit
the
recommendation
after
the
90
days,
what
is
next
and
why
can't
we
have
this
done
sooner
before
june
16th
come
in.
I
mean
this
is
going
to
be
a
very
important
holiday
for
the
the
community
here
and
ask
you,
and
why
is
city
council
dragging
their
feet.
E
The
90
days
was
a
recommendation
because
when
we
bring
something
like
this,
it's
important
to
have
a
timeline.
When
we
have
a
timeline
of.
E
Of
action,
what
happens
is
that
we
suggest
in
the
recommendation,
because
it's
not
a
demand.
It's
a
recommendation
and
90
days
is
plenty
of
time
for
them
to
get
the
bids
put
it
into
action.
The
last
time
that
the
advance
monument
came
down
and
was
put
back
together,
it
took
two
weeks
for
it
to
be
taken
down
and
put
back
together.
So
this
is
just
a
one-way
ticket
to
be
taken
down.
E
So
90
days
is
plenty
of
time
for
the
bids
to
come
in,
for
the
decisions
to
be
made
of
what
contractor
to
be
brought
in
to
pull
it
down
and
have
the
vance
monument
come
down
within
a
week's
time
within
90
days.
I
think
that
within
90
days
is
a
pretty
generous
amount
of
time
to
suggest
to
city
council
and
for
the
removal
of
the
vance
monument,
okay.
Well,.
K
E
Daniel
commissioner
young,
that's
not
our
decision
right
now.
The
the
main
motion
is
to
recommend
to
city
council
that
we
support
the
decision
made
by
the
task
force
to
remove
the
monument.
That's
it
what
happens
after
that,
we
can
continue
to
recommend,
but
right
now
we're
recommending
in
solidarity
with
the
vance
monument
task
force,
to
pull
it
down
all
right.
Thank.
H
B
Okay,
I
would
have
an
issue
with
that,
then
definitely
so.
Why
would
we
be
asking
for
something
to
be
done,
that
the
task
force
itself
is
not
asking
of
its
own
from
its
own
board
towards
city
council
that
would
be
kind
of
us
overstepping
our
bounds
into
their
territory.
They
should
be
making
that
type
of
ask.
I
believe,
that's
my
opinion.
E
This
was
recommended
by
the
co-chair,
and
we
discussed
this
by
the
co-chair
of
the
vance
monument
task
force.
If
you
feel
the
need
to
do
the
research
to
discuss
this
with
her
further
feel
free
to
do
so.
E
This
was
discussed
in
a
lengthy
conversation
where
the
time
of
90
days
was
suggested
that
it
was
too
long
actually
and
that
it
needed
to
come
down
sooner,
and
the
suggestion
for
90
days
came
from
me
out
of
consideration
of
the
red
tape
and
the
bureaucracy
that
happens
with
something
so
delicate
as
this
issue.
B
B
B
So
if
everybody,
if
there's
no
more
questions,
second
on
the
motion,
no
all
right,
so
there's
no
more
questions.
We
can
take
this
to
a
vote,
so
I
would
be
calling
a
roll
call
so
hold
on
one.
Second,
let
me
pull
up
the
agenda
one
more
time.
D
Madame
vice
chair,
you,
I
believe
you
still
have
mr
young,
who
has
his
hand,
raised
with
a
comment.
K
Yes,
could
I
I
want
to.
I
got
a
question
for
councilman
o'rourke
romney
since
she's
representing
the
council
city
council,
maybe
that
she
can
take
the
information
back
to
them
and
tell
them
we
want
this
thing
resolved
sooner
than
90
days
and
I'm
voting
no
on
it.
I
mean
it
shouldn't
take
90
days
to
remove
this
statue.
K
I
mean
come
on.
Look
what
you're
putting
us
through
as
a
community
you're
showing
that
what
ashfield
wants
and
what
we
think
doesn't
matter
to
nothing
you
showing
our
kids
that
what
this
man
represent
is
okay
and
I
feel
by
myself
that
asheville
is
trying
to
wiggle
their
way
out
of
this
without
taking
us
down
the
longer.
We
wait.
The
longer
they're
gonna
have
a
reason
why
it's
going
to
take
90
more
days
90
more
days.
This
statue
can
be
pulled
down
and
we
can
be
done
with
that.
K
C
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
daniel.
I
hear
what
you're
saying
and
I
will
gladly
take
every
word
of
what
you've
offered
to
the
council
at
the
request.
As
your
liaison,
I
also
will
point
to
when
the
recommendations
such
as
this
one
go
through
the
process
with
a
vote
that
also
will
formalize
it
going
to
council.
E
Daniel,
yes,
I
wanted
to
bring
in
also
with
respect
to
the
formal
procurement
process
that
it
takes
and
the
amount
of
time
that
it
takes
for
that
formal
procurement
process
to
occur
and
felt
that
90
days
was
a
reasonable
amount
of
time
to
get
the
the
peoples
involved.
That
needed
to
be
involved
to
pull
it
down
in
the
in
the
right
way.
E
I
understand
that
I
hear
you,
I
hear
you
big
time,
and
so
we
felt
that
90
days
was
a
reasonable
time
to
give
the
processes
that
are
involved
and
with
respect
to
honoring
that
that
we
do
support
it
coming
down
in
a
in
a
timely
fashion.
B
Okay,
well
once
again
miss
rodriguez.
You
put
the
motion
again
to
the
floor
for
a
vote
and
was
seconded,
so
I
would
begin
to
take
roll
call
on
that
vote
to
and
the
vote
is
to
support
the
recommendation
in
the
form
that
is
in
from
our
board
to
city
council
for
the
removal
of
advanced
monument
within
90
days.
F
C
B
H
H
D
D
D
Can,
and
with
all
respect
to
commissioner
jones,
we
we
are
required
to
count
any
abstentions
as
yes
votes
under
the
rewards.
I
have.
H
L
B
So
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
order
of
business,
which
is
the
election
of
chair
and
vice
chair,
and
I
guess
brad
you
might
have
to
take
this
over
because
we've
never
done
it
in
this
form
of
fashion.
Before
so.
D
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
So
there
is
a
an
item
on
your
agenda
to
consider
the
election
of
a
chair
and
vice
chair.
This
is
out
of
current
time
schedules
with
the
predetermined
terms
for
these
individuals,
but
the
body
has
the
ability
to
make
these
changes
at
any
points
if
it
so
chooses.
D
So
what
we
would
need
is
simply
a
motion
and
I
would
advise,
if
you're
dealing
with
both
positions
to
do
them
one
at
a
time,
so
I
would
suggest
starting
with
the
chair,
and
if
someone
would
like
a
make
a
motion
to
elect
a
new
chair,
you
can
do
that
and
if
you
want
to
go
further
and
specify
to
elect
a
specific
person
as
a
new
chair,
then
you
can
do
it
as
a
single
motion.
It
does
require
a
second
and
then
a
roll
call
vote.
J
I
Yes,
she
is
aware
of
the
election
tonight
and
she
has
indicated
her
interest
in
not
serving
his
vice
chair
either.
B
Thank
you
all
right,
so
does
so,
as
brad
said,
we're
gonna
make
a
most.
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
elect
a
new
chair
tonight.
B
D
Second,
madame
vice
chair,
just
for
clarity,
the
way
we
are
doing
this,
we
are
essentially
opening
the
florida
nominations,
so
one
person
yourself
has
been
nominated.
I
believe
I
just
heard
a
second
nomination,
so
we'll
we
will
take
the
nominations.
They
do
not
require
a
second
once
there
are
no
further
nominations.
D
B
B
H
B
B
D
So
mad
advice
chair,
you
have
the
power
to
close
the
nominations
once
no
further
nominations
are
received,
so
you
do
not
need
to
take
a
vote
on
that.
Okay.
So
at
this
point,
if
you're
ready
to
close,
you
can
do
that
if
there
are
no
other
nominations
and
you
can
proceed
with
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
two
people
who
have
been
nominated.
B
F
D
You
are
selecting
one
of
the
two
nominated
individuals,
so
you
should
be
voting
on
one
of
the
two
instead
of
a
yay
or
no
vote.
B
G
B
H
B
B
B
J
E
I'm
not
been
aid
brandon
oliver
for
vice
chair.
A
B
B
G
L
B
E
K
B
B
G
I
have
an
idea:
okay
feel
free
yeah.
I
would
like
to
see
an
investigation
into
cpac
and
its
recent
ending
in
meetings
and
with
that,
an
evaluation
of
future
policing
and
public
safety,
how
it
and
how
it
relates
to
the
defund
movement
here
in
asheville.
E
Just
for
clarity,
commissioner,
noyes
investigation
into
cpac
and
the
the
lack
of
meetings
that
has
been
happening
and
that
there's
no
meetings.
G
Right,
I'm
just
needing
some
clarity
on
why
they
are
not
having
meetings
and
if
they've
disbanded
or
any
updates
on
cpac.
I
B
I
think
right
now
we're
just
are
we.
I
think
right
now
we're
just
in
the
brainstorming
phases
up
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
would
like
to
do
as
a
board.
So
I'm
not
quite
sure
we
would
have
to
take
a
vote
on
this
measure
right
now.
Brad.
Is
that
something
we
would
need
to
do.
D
You
do
not
need
to
take
a
vote.
Perhaps
if
I
could
suggest
you
have
a
discussion
and
come
assemble
all
of
those
items
that
are
brought
up
as
a
suggestion
from
the
board,
and
then
you
can
vote
on
it,
perhaps
at
your
next
meeting,
to
make
it
the
official
work
plan
but
feel
free
to
just
proceed
with
the
discussion
without
any
votes,
unless
you
feel
ready
to
vote
on
it
this
evening.
D
B
B
K
Yeah,
I
got
a
suggestion:
what
about
working
with
trying
to
help
keep
these
schools
open
for
the
kids.
K
Back
in
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
the
community
is
going
against
the
closing
of
the
schools,
I
think
maybe
it'll
be
better
if
we
put
some
time
into
that
for
the
future
of
our
kids.
K
Okay-
and
I
would
like
to
thank
dolores
and
tiffany,
for
the
work
they've
been
doing
for
the
community.
Thank
y'all.
B
Thank
you,
mr
young,
and
I
I
also
think
I
can
speak
for
tiffany
herself
with
this.
We
have
been
very
lucky
to
serve
on
this
board
for
the
time
that
we
have,
and
it
has
been
an
honor
and
a
privilege
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
so,
and
we
just
hope
moving
forward
that
you
know
the
board
continues
to
do
great
works
and
that
the
human
relations
commission
can
move
forward
and
be
a
driving
force
and
equity,
including
the
city
of
asheville.
B
So
thank
you
for
that,
mr
young,
and
I
also
we
also
got
your
suggestion
for
our
work
plan.
Anyone
else
have
any
ideas.
H
You
know
I'd
like
to
make
a
comment
on
the
disparity
project,
or
that
happened
when
we
first
started
this
group
I'd
like
to
know
where
that,
where
that
is
today,
have
we
moved
the
needle
at
all
and
have
we
moved
a
needle
on
anything
since
we've
been
in
existence
around
school,
achieving
a
gap
around
affordable
housing
around
getting
minorities
contracts?
If
we
move
the
needle
at
all,
I
I'd
like
to
get
an
update
on.
Have
we
moved
the
needle
on
anything
that
came
out
of
the
state
of
black
asheville
in
2017.?
E
Rodriguez,
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
rosanna
yesterday
in
relation
to
an
update
on
the
disparity
study
and
also
once
it
yeah.
I
agree.
I
agree,
commissioner
young,
to
use
a
black
contractor
to
remove
it.
Absolutely
that
would
make
the
most
sense
there.
The
two
parts
two
parts
to
this
question,
what
has
happened
since
the
disparity
studied
and
update
on
the
disparity
study
and
also
what
happens
after
it
goes
to
city
council.
E
So
after
it
goes
to
city
council,
what
was
shared
with
me
was
that
the
buncombe
county
commissioners
would
have
jurisdiction
over
what
happens
with
the
vance
monument,
and
so
that's
as
far
as
I
know,
with
the
information
that's
been
given
to
me,
and
I'm
just
gonna
go
to
a
document
that
I
have
in
regards
to
the
disparity
study.
E
So
in
10,
10
2020,
the
city
of
asheville
passed
the
race
and
gender
conscious
policy
and
it
took
effect
in
1-1
2021.
There
were
new
procedures
for
everyone
to
follow.
When
it
came
to
contracting.
There
was
data
collecting
to
make
sure
the
contracting
process
is
equitable.
E
There
was
a
data
collected
to
be
used
for
three
different
things:
to
clear
up
to
clear
and
to
create
up-to-date
minority
women
owned
businesses,
utilization
compliance
to
make
sure
people
are
contracting.
E
Minority
women-owned
businesses
who
are
qualified
to
do
the
job
and
and
know
who
are
people
who
know
who
are
and
also
is
that
concerns
the
community
contracts
are
not
equitable.
So
there
is
a
major
shift
to
outreach
minority-owned
businesses
in
this
in
the
community
and
keep
track
of
how
often
minority
and
women-owned
businesses
are
contracted
without
response
and
to
utilize
the
data
to
create
tools
to
inform
and
connect
the
city
with
community
with
city
contracts
and
business
opportunities.
E
Also,
a
certification
program
for
the
city
of
asheville
certification,
specific
to
certify
a
minority
women-owned
businesses
for
city
contracts
in
a
10-county
region.
Utilizing
the
10
counties
identified
in
the
disparity
study.
Also
rosanna
is
willing
to
come
next
meeting
and
give
us
a
presentation
on
the
updates
to
the
disparity
study,
what
they
have
done
and
what
they've
changed
in
the
city
to
make
sure
that
contracts
that
go
into
the
city
are
more
equitable
for
the
community,
most
impacted
by
non-equitable
relations
and
human
relations
in
asheville.
H
B
I
guess
that
would
be
something
that
rosanna
would
need
to
come
and
probably
discuss
with
our
board.
Definitely
to
answer
mr
jones's
question
because.
H
E
I
would
love
to
connect
with
you
on
mr
jones
to
find
out
how
we
can
get
that
question
asked
to
rosanna
and
bring
it
to
the
commission
so
that
we
all
have
a
greater
understanding
of
what
it
looks
like
for
that
needle
to
be
moved
and
how
important
it
is
for
it
to
be
moved
in
a
significant
way.
You
know.
F
I'd
like
to
make
the
sign
I'd
like
to
make
the
suggestion
that
we
have
budgetary
insurgents,
so
we
can
be
more
participatory
in
making
policy
and
fiscal
recommendations
to
the
council.
F
I'd
like
we
have
a
lot
of
new
members
and
I
think
important
for
them
to
get
update
on
how
the
city
budget
and
how
much
budgetary
resources
to
fulfill
some
of
our
goals.
J
H
I
There
are,
there
are
a
number
of
budget
workshops
going
on
that
are
equity
based,
so
yes,
they're,
quite
sure
those
taking
place
I'll
see
if
I
can
find
the
schedule
and
put
in
the
chat.
If
I
can
find
the
schedule
of
those
meetings,
there's.
B
One
tomorrow,
I
believe,
no
24th,
the.
F
I
B
B
For
me,
one
of
the
things
that
I
like
to
see
here
locally
one
of
two
things,
I'm
also
interested
in
the
minority,
contracting
and
and
equities
issue,
as
well
as
mr
jones
has
brought
up,
but
also
during
this
time
of
pandemic.
B
I'd
like
to
see
us
also
support
equitable
distribution
of
loan
monies
and
equitable
distribution
and
resources
to
get
marginalized
and
people
of
color
communities
access
to
the
vaccine
that
want
it
or
that
need
it
and
don't
have
really
able
access,
especially
since
we're
opening
up
more
forms
of
more
people
being
able
to
be
vaccinated.
B
I
think
because
health
disparities
are
something
that
has
always
affected
people
of
color
and
marginalized
people,
and
it's
also
an
equity
issue,
because
healthcare
always
falls
under
equity.
That's
something
that
I
would
like
for
us
to
look
at,
because
we've
seen
the
suffering
of
the
pandemic
upon
black
and
brown
communities
locally.
B
I
also
would
like
to
look
at
some
of
the
issues
that
we
have
pertaining
to
our
achievement
gaps
within
our
local
school
systems
and
how
we
can,
especially
on
during
the
time
that
we
faced
on
this
pandemic
and
now
we're
seeing
our
kids
going
back
to
school,
being
able
to
help
facilitate
smooth
transitions
and
decrease
barriers
that
they
have
been
exposed
to
doing
this
pandemic
and
trying
to
support
communities
and
families.
In
that,
too,
that's
just
some
of
my
idea.
B
H
Know
one
of
the
patterns
that
we,
I
think
we're
falling
into
and
we're
becoming
redundant
to
a
lot
of
things
that
are
going
on.
There
are
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
effort
going
in
to
get
minority
people
black
and
brown
people
into
facility
to
give
vaccines.
I
mean
one
group
that
comes
to
mind
the
health
department
from
the
county
and
the
chosen
have
been
doing
sign
ups
to
get
people
coming
to
the
editing
center.
H
I
worked
volunteered
myself
three
times
and
we
had
a
big
group
come
into
why
mca
and
we
were
getting
local
people
in
the
black
community
to
call
one
another,
have
a
paper
list
first
and
then
have
them,
show
up
and
then
go
through
the
procedures.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
things
that's
been
going
on.
I
know
people
are
looking
at
what's
happening
to
the
pods,
the
library
children
are
getting
behind
the
pods.
H
We
have
people
that
are
getting
broadband
into
housing,
so
I
don't
want
us
to
be
redundant
to
a
lot
of
things
that
are
going
on.
So
I
think
we
ought
to
exercise
this
discipline
of
asking
who's
doing
what
out
there
before
we
start
talking
about
what
we're
going
to
do,
because
there's
a
lot
of
effort
out
there.
That's
moving
in
the
right
direction,
I'm
happy
to
say,
but
I
don't
want
to
be
redundant
to
anything.
Somebody
else
is
doing.
B
We
talk
about
things
and
they're,
not
and
sometimes
they're,
not
really
tangible,
mutable
goals,
and
so
we
keep
talking
about
them
over
and
over
and
it
you
know.
I
just
don't
want
to
do
the
same
thing
because
remember
the
issue
with
cpac.
That
was
a
year's
conversation.
Yes,
and
I
just
don't
want
to
see
that
type
of
redundancy.
So
I
guess
I
I
agree
with
you
like
supporting
things
that
people
or
things
that
have
already
been
working
and
have
proof
of
working
and
lending
support
to
that.
B
You
know
with
recommendations
to
city
council
when
it
comes
to
being
able
to
finance
fun,
land,
technical
assistance
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
I
definitely,
I
totally
agree
with
you,
mr.
K
Thank
you,
chris
all
right,
the
laws.
I
got
a
question
there.
The
city
council
lawyer,
the
attorney
we
got
on
here.
K
I
was
wanting
to
know:
if
is
there
any
way
that
we
can
make
it
be
the
first
example
what
city
and
north
carolina
that's
to
make
it
legal
for
a
person
with
a
felony
that
can
go
in
and
help
with
these
kids,
because
during
this
pandemic
right
now,
you
got
four
different
parts
that
are
working
in
asheville
in
the
black
community
that
I'm
that
I
know
of,
and
you
got
the
whole
community-
that's
been
putting
in
the
work
for
this
and
now,
when
everything
goes
back
to
so
I
guess
to
back
to
normal
the
people
that's
been
doing
the
hard
works
since
the
covert
is
gonna,
be
shut
off.
K
I'm
not
gonna
be
able
to
be
usable.
No
more.
I
forgot
about
like
myself,
I'm
an
ex-felon
and
I'm
working
with
the
school
system,
but
you
got
you
got
more
people,
there's
felons
that
are
doing
impactful
work
in
the
community
and
when
the
schools
and
stuff
goes
back
to
normal
they're
going
to
be
left
out.
K
So
I
I
think
it
would
be
justice.
I
mean
justified
that
we
open
some
kind
of
door
for
the
ones
who
are
that
has
felonies.
That
are
able
to
help
the
kids
in
the
schools
that
that
are
able
to
go
in
to
help
these
kids
with
trauma
to
better
be
usable
instead
of
using
somebody
that
they
cannot
relate
to
just
because
we
have
felonies,
don't
mean
that
we
cannot
be
used
for
our
community.
K
I
mean.
Is
there
anything
that
we
can
do
to
adjust
this
matter?
Because
I
mean
it's
holding
us
back,
it's
not
only
holding
us
back
with
getting
the
great
the
best
job
that
we
want,
but
it's
holding
us
back
in
our
reality.
We
already
went
to
jail
so
why
we
got
to
continue
to
say
yes,
I've
been
convicted
of
a
felony.
Did
you
turn
us
down
for
this
job,
but
the
mate
the
sisters
coping
we
have
been
putting
in
the
work?
K
I
know
a
lot
of
brothers
and
sisters.
That's
been
teaching
at
these
parts,
doing
it
for
free
because
they
love
it
because
they
love
their
kids,
but
I
think
that
we
should,
let's
give
give,
give
us
an
opportunity
yeah.
We
messed
up
ain't,
nobody
perfect,
but
give
give
those
people
the
opportunity
to
be
used
in
the
school
systems
where
they
can
do.
I
mean
I
know
you
cannot
be
used
if
you're
a
child,
molester
or
whatever,
but
certain
crimes
you
can
be
used.
You
can
be
used
as
a
mentor.
K
You
can
be
used
as
a
recovery
coach.
These
kids
are
looking
up
to
us
they're,
not
looking
up
the
joke,
somebody
they
can't
connect,
they
cannot
relate
to
they
looking
up
to
the
lowest
somebody
they
seen
on
the
regular.
If
the
kids
do
not
see
you
on
a
regular,
they
ain't
gonna
relate
to
nobody
on
this
commission
board
because
I'm
out
in
the
community.
I
talk
to
these
kids
on
the
record,
but
I
mean
you
got
city
council
members
getting
elected
they're
not
coming
back
to
the
community.
K
B
D
Now
some
of
the
things
that
often
come
up
that
people
are
interested
in
changing
can
only
be
changed
at
the
state
level,
and
I
think
that
what
we're
talking
about
here,
a
lot
of
that
is
a
state
scheme
of
a
criminal
law
and
how
that
plays
into
the
ability
to
hire
those
individuals
for
the
school
system,
but
even
with
those
laws
that
are
dealt
with
at
the
state
level.
We
still
in
the
city
council,
as
well
as
this
board,
and
the
school
board
can
function
as
advocacy
groups
to
the
state
legislature.
D
In
fact,
with
the
city
council,
we
just
passed
a
legislative
agenda,
things
that
we
don't
have
the
power
to
enact
locally,
but
we're
asking
our
local
legislators
in
raleigh
to
fight
for
these
sorts
of
things
and
to
try
to
advance
bills
at
the
state
level.
So
sometimes
it
is
absolutely
something
that
this
body
can
make
a
recommendation
to
city
council
on.
In
other
cases,
it
might
be
something
you
recommend.
D
The
city
council
advocates
to
the
state
representatives
and
I
think
that
they
do
listen
to
those
things
because
they
want
to
hear
from
the
community
city
councils
the
same
way
our
city
council
wants
to
hear
from
you.
So
what
you're
speaking
of
mr
young,
specifically,
I
think,
is
probably
a
state
control
law
for
the
most
part,
but
I
would
highly
recommend
if
this
is
something
the
board
feels
strongly
about
to
advance
recommendations
for
advocacy
up
to
the
city
council,
and
you
could
always
do
the
same
thing
to
the
school
boards
as
well.
K
B
L
I
do
if
I
may,
mr
thank
you.
I
still
would
like
to
explore
options,
or
you
know,
what's
available
in
the
city
as
far
as
recommendations
for
the
conversations
between
the
department
of
transportation
and
the
police
force
when
they're
removing
homeless
encampments
as
it
pertains
to
the
weather.
But
if,
if
there
is
a
a
way
that
we
can
research
and
get
recommendations
from
our
advocates
for
the
homeless
in
the
city
about
the
best
ways
to
handle
those
that
don't
risk
lives.
B
F
I
think
that
at
a
certain
point
we
need
it's
been.
It's
been
a
while
since
we've
had
so
I
consider
putting
that
onto
the
schedule
at
some
point.
E
Uh-Huh
brad
brad,
I
have
a
question:
is
it
possible
to
bring
all
of
these
things
in
an
email
and
create
working
groups
for
them,
or
do
we
have
to
vote
on
working
groups?
How
does
that
work
when
we
bring
all
of
these
brainstorming
ideas
and
then
maybe
invite
every
all
of
us
in
an
email
to
develop
working
groups
so
that
we
can.
D
Absolutely
that's
an
excellent
question.
You
are
a
commission
formed
by
the
city
council
and
which,
which
means
that
you
have
the
power
to
form
or
enable
working
groups.
Now
what
a
working
group
is
is
any
number
of
your
body
less
than
a
quorum,
so
you
have
15
members,
so
the
working
groups
need
to
be
seven
people
or
less
at
all
times.
D
Now
I
would
advise
that
you
not
take
any
formal
action
to
establish
a
working
group,
but
simply
agree
among
yourselves
in
discussion
that
a
certain
number
of
you
can
go
ahead
and
form
a
working
group
outside
of
this
body
to
discuss
these
things
further
and
to
bring
back
information
on
any
one
of
these
points
to
the
full
body.
If
you
are
only
utilizing
working
groups
as
opposed
to
a
an
official
subcommittee,
you
do
not
have
to
worry
about
the
public
meetings
laws
because
you
are
just
a
smaller
group
less
than
quorum.
D
You
don't
have
any
power
to
take
action
of
this
particular
body,
so
the
difference
is
if
you
were
to
take
a
vote
and
formalize
and
create
a
standing
subcommittee.
That
would
also
be
a
public
body,
and
it's
very
difficult
at
this
point
for
us,
given
the
the
virtual
format
that
we're
in
to
facilitate
those
subcommittees,
but
anytime,
less
than
a
quorum
of
you
gather
to
discuss
these
issues.
D
The
open
meetings
laws
do
not
apply,
so
you
can
do
that
and
bring
your
information
back
to
this
public
forum,
where
you
can
discuss
it
amongst
the
full
commission,
so
feel
free
to
volunteer
for
working
groups
to
suggest
working
groups.
No
official
vote
needs
to
be
taken
and
make
sure
it
is
always
seven
people
or
less
probably
even
a
smaller
group,
might
work
better
and
then
come
back
at
any
point.
Let
the
chair
or
the
liaison
know
you're
ready
to
present
some
information
and
we
can
add
it
to
the
agenda
at
that
point,.
E
Wonderful,
thank
you
very
much,
for
that.
Is
it
possible
for
us
to
create
working
groups
today
in
relation
to
the
things
that
have
been
coming
up,
or
would
it
be
more
feasible
to
do
that
in
relation
to
time
to
do
that
over
email.
D
D
We
are
running
somewhat
short
on
time,
but
certainly
at
this
point
anyone
can
send
the
chair,
and
now
I
think
we
have
a
new
chair,
a
recommendation
or
a
suggestion
that
they're
willing
to
form
a
working
group,
and
you
can
maybe
go
ahead
and
get
together
and
begin
working
or
you
can
add
it
to
your
next
agenda
for
open
discussion.
If
you
feel
like
waiting
till
next
month,.
E
Thank
you.
I
would
also
like
to
add
a
couple
of
more
things.
Initiatives
that
we
were
discussing
in
the
working
group
in
the
recommendation
working
group
in
relation
to
support
for
the
reparations
resolution
also
to
form
a
working
group
around
ada.
Compliance
in
support
of
what
the
city
council
is
working
on.
F
I've
since
susie
brought
up
the
encampments
susie,
would
you
feel
comfortable
touching
base
with
beloved
and
seeing
if
there's
a
way
that
our
commission
could
ascend?
Is
that
something
that
you
would
feel
comfortable
taking
on.
A
F
F
I'm
planning,
since
I
asked
about
I'm
planning
on
attending
the
budget
as
the
budget
briefings.
I
think
it's
important
for
us
I'd
had.
I
went
through
one
round
of
them,
but.
B
If
there
are
no
more
recommendations
or
ideas,
I
move
to
go
on
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
the
second
time
and
that's
updates
from
the
office
of
equity
inclusion,
and
it
would
be
mr
white.
I
believe.
I
Yes,
thank
you
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
anticipate
the
ad
the
advertisement
to
go,
live
for
the
director
here
in
the
next
week,
or
so.
You
may
have
heard
that
pauline
mendez
our
training
consultant
moved
on
to
the
county
in
a
new
position,
so
that
leaves
yeshika
smith
and
myself
in
the
office
record
inclusion,
and
so
we
are
covering
the
office
and
also
activating
an
employee
group
as
well
to
help
us
with
the
work
until
we're
able
to
rehire
the
positions
within
office.
I
So
the
work
of
that
conclusion
does
continue,
but
which
is
down
to
two
employees
in
the
office
at
the
moment.
But
we
do
plan
to
completely
refill
those
positions,
and
so
those
actually
go
live
soon.
I
There
are
total
there
are
a
total
of
four
in
the
office
a
director,
and
there
are
three
other
positions:
the
in
the
training
consultant
and
human
relations
analyst.
Those
two
positions
are
now
vacant
and
we
are
advertising
for
the
director.
Yashika
smith
is
our
inclusive
engagement,
leadership
manager
and
she's
with
us
in
the
office.
I
G
I
So
I
believe
the
budget
document
is
online,
but
I
can
certainly
provide
additional
information
for
you
set
your
next
meetings.
You
want
more
information
on
the
specific
on
the
office
about
conclusions,
a
specific
budget
for
that
office,
but
I
do
believe
it's
included
within
the
city's
budget
online
and
in
terms
of
the
contract.
Can
you
be
more
specific
in
terms
of
what
are
you
looking
for?
I
A
I
There's
also
anyone
else
question
in
the
chat
box:
mister
commissioner
young,
concerning
the
50
million
dollars
for
covet
19.,
actually
that
at
the
city
of
asheville
received
around
26
million,
I
think
the
50
million
goes
to
the
county,
but
for
the
city
we
are
currently
looking
at
opportunities
of
how
those
funds
will
be
used.
We're
waiting
on
guidance,
though
from
the
federal
government.
There
has
not
been
a
lot
of
guidance
in
terms
of
how
those
funds
can
be
used
and
so
waiting
for
further
guidance
determine
how
we
can
best
use
that
funding.
I
F
Yeah
from
mr
white
is
there?
Is
there
an
out
in
the
hiring
process?
I
know
that
you
guys
have
consultants
who
are
helping
you
is
there?
Is
there
a
focus
on
trying
to
hire
somebody
qualified?
Who
is
also,
who
knows
the
history
of
of
asheville
and
more
particularly
black
castle.
I
And
so
we
think
salon
having
that
knowledge
is
very
helpful,
but
it's
not
a
requirement,
but
that's
something
we're
definitely
working
through
as
we
move
through
the
process
and
the
interview
process
of
learning
more
about
the
candidates,
understanding
of
of
the
city
of
asheville
and
our
african-american
community.
K
K
And
it
will
not
be
going
in
the
hands
of
the
mountain
bears
where,
where
the
money
is
distribute
equally
to
the
community,
that
I
mean
for
the
you
got
small
business
people
here,
that's
been
turned
down
for
the
ppp
loans,
sba
loans
and
you
got
business
here
like
the
cambria,
that's
been
getting
the
loans,
but
not
giving
none
of
the
money
to
their
employee
to
the
workers
who
have
been
working.
K
I
So,
yes,
we're
still
waiting
for
more
guidance
from
the
federal
government
in
terms
of
the
requirements
of
how
we
can
use
that
funding.
At
this
point
we
don't
have
that,
and
so
we're
waiting
for
the
federal
government
to
release
more
information
around
the
guidelines
of
how
those
dollars
can
be
spent.
Okay,.
K
I
got
one
more
question
for
you.
I
want
to
piggyback
on
about
what
he's
talk.
Mr
the
coordinator
was
talking
about
about
picking
somebody
from
the
community
that
knows
the
community
to
work
with
you
on
shaniqua.
Wouldn't
that
be
the
best
way
to
do
it
instead
of
getting
somebody,
that's
not
from
ashville
who
don't
know
nothing
about
ashfield,
don't
even
have
no
feeling
for
the
community.
K
Wouldn't
it
be
better
to
have
somebody
that's
from
us
today
to
work
with
us
instead
of
getting
somebody,
that's
that's
going
to
get
paid
for
this
position.
I
guess
I
don't
know
if
they're
getting
paid
for
it
or
not,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
you
can
get
some
people
that's
from
asheville.
That
would
do
it
for
free
if
they
really
truly
love
and
want
to
see
the
the
betterment
of
our
community,
I
mean:
can
we
vote
on
that
who's,
who's
going
to
be
picked
and
who's
who's
not
going
to
be
to
get
the
position.
I
No,
the
city
manager
responsible
for
hiring
the
director,
but
what
I
would
say
if
you
know
anyone
in
the
community
who
you
think
would
be
interested
in
this
position,
certainly
have
them
apply
once
the
ad
goes
live.
We
certainly
want
to
know
who
those
individuals
might
be.
So
if
you
know
folks,
let
us
know
that
we
still
want
to
make
sure
they
are
aware
of
the
position
and
the
work,
and
we
want
to
know
about
them
as
well.
I
We
met
yesterday
with
consultants,
they
are
firming
up
the
profile
for
the
position,
and
so
that's
what
we
hope
to
release
the
next
week,
or
so
it
will
lay
all
that
out
in
a
recruitment
brochure
that
will
have
the
qualifications
looking
for
listed
in
that
brochure.
I
I
would
refer
to
the
attorney
on
that
one
in
terms
of
how
we
would
address
that
that
issue.
D
B
It
came
from
mr
grant
million
and
his
comment
was
dealing
with
the
equity
and
inclusion
and
the
reason
why
I'm
bringing
this
up
is
because
we're
brainstorming
ideas,
and
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
did
not
bring
up
mr
millions
public
comment
here.
I
believe
it
is
also
posted
on
sarah.
Could
you
clarify
that
it's
posted
on
the
in
the
comments
section
of
of
the
of
the
zoom,
I
believe.
L
I'm
not
it's
actually
in
the
shared
folder
for
the
committee
and
also
posted.
B
On
the
committee
web
page-
okay,
thank
you
so
yeah,
so
I
wanted
to
also
before
we
ended.
This
conversation
bring
his
comment
up
and
when
I
read
it
in
the
shared
folder
I
I
guess
he
was
referring
to
tanya.
So
I
like
to
ask
her
to
maybe
delve
into
maybe
the
conversation
that
you
and
mr
million
had
about
his
public
statement
and
how
to
further
that.
B
Because
he
was
asking
questions
about
to
send
him
information
about
whether-
and
so
I
didn't
know
how
to
answer
that
question
because
I
didn't,
I
didn't
know
what
the
conversation
consisted
of
and
I
think
his
issue
was
concerning
whether
or
not
we
have
enough
members
on
our
board
that
meet
the
requirements
under
americans
with
disabilities
that
we're
supposed
to
have
two
people
on
our
board.
That
represents
the
the
adw.
B
I
mean
awd
community.
B
Absolutely,
and
so
I
guess
for
our
board,
I
guess
he
was
asking
the
question
he
wanted
to
to
have
clarification
that
we
do
have
those
two
members.
So
I
guess
that
I
would
have
to
ask
that
question
to
the
city
attorney.
Perhaps.
D
The
hrca
was
formed
via
an
ordinance
that
was
passed
by
the
city
council.
There
is
a
very
specific
set
of
requirements
for
membership
for
what
the
characteristics
of
each
member
of
the
15
member
body
is.
There
are
all
of
those
can
be
found
in
that
ordinance.
For
you
to
review
I
I
will
say
that
there
is
no
such
legal
requirement
that
I
am
aware
of
that.
This
board
have
a
specific
number
of
persons
with
disabilities
included
on
the
board
membership.
B
So
I
hope
that
answers.
Thank
you
brad.
I
hope
that
answers.
Mr
millions
question.
I
know
that
that
was
the
public
comment
that
was
sent
in
to
us
previous
to
our
meeting,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
gave
that
comment
on
value
and
got
an
answer
from
mr
million.
So
thank
you
brad
for
that,
and
I
hope
that
answers
mr
millions
concerns.
G
White,
so
the
community
has
been
made
aware
that
a
third
of
apd
has
left
the
police
department.
We
are
wondering
if
there
is
any
talk
about
where
the
funds
for
those
salaries
would
go
to
and
if
they're
going
to
stay
within
apd
or
if
it's
within
our
realm,
to
make
recommendations
on
where
that
money
should
go.
I
E
Before
we
close
the
meeting,
I
would
like
to
thank
dolores
for
chairing
this
meeting
today
and
the
work
that
you
and
tiffany
have
done
with
the
hrca.
E
And
it's
been
an
honor
to
serve
with
you,
and
I
really
appreciate
all
that.
You've
done
and
brought
to
us
and
to
the
community
of
asheville
and
and
thank
you
for
all
of
your
votes.
And
I
look
forward
to
serving
the
city
of
asheville
and
with
all
of
you,
moving
forward.
B
Again,
thank
you,
tanya
and
I'm
sure
tiffany
feels
the
same.
It's
been
an
honor
to
serve
again
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
everyone,
and
we
just
want
to
see
this
board
do
very
well.
That's
the
only
hope
that
we
have
that's
the
only
reason
why
we've
been
here
all
this
time
and
we
just
look
forward
to
better
works
onward
and
forward.
So
thank
you
folks.
B
So
with
that
being
said,
mr
jones,
did
you
have
anything?
Okay.
Thank
you.
So
much
so
without
further
ado
with
anybody
like
to
make
a
motion
to
adjourn
this
meeting.