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We're
streaming
live
and
you
can
view
the
meeting
on
the
city
of
asheville
youtube
channel,
we'll
begin
our
meeting
with
the
roll
call
of
members.
When
you
hear
your
name,
please
respond
with
a
quick,
hello,
tanya
rodriguez
here,
commissioner
chandler
also
here.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
jones.
F
C
Commissioner,
weinbrenner.
F
A
Commissioner,
daniel
young
is
not
here
yet,
commissioner,
dolores
venable
is
not
here
yet,
commissioner
ivan
melchor
is
not
here
yet,
commissioner,
melanie
noyes
is
not
here
yet,
commissioner,
veronica
is
not
here
yet,
commissioner,
alfred
greene
is
not
here
yet,
and
commissioner
nicole
worthy
is
not
here
yet,
and
we
greet
the
commissioners
as
they
arrive
is
that
is
that
all
right.
G
A
Wonderful
welcome
sarah,
thank
you
for
being
here.
Welcome
brad.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
Welcome
richard.
Thank
you
for
being
here
minutes.
E
H
I
am
well,
mr
richard
congratulations.
I
read
in
the
paper
on
your
upcoming
job.
Congratulations
to
you,
sir.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate.
I
He's
leaving
the
town
manager
of
the
town
of
cardworld
and
I'll
be
with
the
city
until
august,
11th
and
heading
on
to
cardboard
shortly
thereafter,.
C
A
So
we're
waiting
on
minutes.
I
believe
that
melanie
has
those
minutes
or.
D
D
I
can
put
them
in
the
chat
here,
but
they
they
are
also
located
on
the
committee
web
page
with
the
folder,
but
for
convenience.
I
can
put.
K
B
L
I'm
sorry,
okay,
just
saying
hello
to
the
room
and
wonder
which
mr
white
great
look
on
his
future
from
rivers
go
cardboard,
go
and
great.
So
thank
you
for
your
service.
Here,
asheville,
the
native
song
always
has
to
go
away.
We
hate
to
see
you
go,
we
had
to
see
actual
talent
leave
here.
I
was
just
having
reflections
upon
this
the
other
night,
but
thank
you
for
your
time
here
and
great
luck
to
you,
sir.
A
It's
homekeepers
in
the
last
meeting.
He
said
that
you'd
be
willing
to
time
to
keep
this.
Yes,
yes,
wonderful,
and
so
we
worked
out
last
meeting
that
the
time
for
we
keep
time
and
that
each
of
us
would
speak
have
a
time
allotment
of
three
minutes
and-
and
we
would
wait
until
everybody
else
had
a
chance
to
speak
before
speaking
again,
which
is
an
all
I
meant
with
robert
schools.
M
A
Absolutely
when
there's
discussion,
discussion.
M
M
A
J
Thank
you,
I'm
actually
in
the
backyard
where
I
was
born
and
raised,
so
I'm
in
brooklyn
right
now
and
it's
beautiful
it
is,
you
know
at
times
a
little
loud,
so
I
may
go
in
and
out
of
camera,
but
of
course
they
on
you.
A
That's
good
stuff!
Well,
I
wonder
if
we
can
move
on
to
the
request
for
reports
and
then
circle
back
to
agenda
approval.
A
Wonderful,
thank
you,
commissioner
jones,
I
believe,
has
a
a
request
for
reports
from
richard
white
kim,
rooney
and
brad
in
relation
to
the
land
acknowledgement
from
the
cherokee
nation
and
if
I
may
clarify
the
land,
acknowledgement
is
we're
coming
to.
You
live
from
the
cherokee
homeland,
whether
where
the
eastern
bound
of
cherokee
indians
remain
a
sovereign
nation
to
this
day,
which
was
given
to
me
by
a
member
of
the
cherokee
nation
as
a
request,
as
per
my
request,
to
bring
to
this
meeting
regarding
human
relations,
so.
F
J
K
Yes,
commissioner
jones,
I
think
I
I
was
able
to
hear
what
you
asked,
but
let
me
repeat
it
just
for
everyone,
and
you
tell
me
if
I
correctly
stated
that
you
are
asking
for
some
feedback
with
regard
to
whether
or
not
the
call
for
acknowledgement
is
in
alignment
with
the
human
relations
commission
ordinance.
Is
that
correct.
K
Absolutely-
and
I
can
speak
to
that,
if
I
may
in
response
to
that
request
that
you
made
at
the
previous
meeting,
I
have
reviewed
the
ordinance,
which
is
ordinance
4663,
which
established
the
human
relations
commission
here
in
nashville,
as
well
as
the
document
that
was
put
out
by
the
a
group
known
as
the
us
department
of
arts
and
culture
who
established
what
they
titled
a
guide
and
call
to
acknowledgement
in
order
to
honor
native
land.
So
let
me
start
by
providing
a
little
bit
of
context
about
the
hrca
ordinance.
K
K
Now,
specifically,
you
are
tasked
with
identifying
and
assisting
and
addressing
all
forms
of
individual
institutional
and
community
discrimination
through
education,
advocacy
and
policy
recommendations,
so
that
is
essentially
the
areas
of
the
ordinance
that
I
think
may
be
pertinent
to
what
we're
talking
about
this
evening.
K
As
I
said,
I
have
reviewed
the
us
department
of
arts
and
culture
document,
and
I
think
it's
important
first
of
all
to
state
that,
despite
the
name
that
this
is
not
a
group
officially
affiliated
with
the
united
states
government,
this
is
a
private
organization
who
has
stated
a
stated
mission
that
essentially
is
intending
to,
and
let
me
quote
some
language
from
their
documentation
to
establish
this
land
acknowledgement
as
a
concept
primarily
envisioned
by
this
organization,
with
the
state
of
purpose
being
to
repair
relationships,
create
reconciliation
and
inspire
new
relationships.
K
I
would
go
on
to
say
that
in
looking
at
their
documentation,
there
is
a
quite
quite
a
bit
of
information
about
increasing
the
public
consciousness
around
native
american
sovereignty,
cultural
rights
and
increasing
equitable
relationships
and
reconciliation
amongst
that
groups,
as
well
as
the
community
at
large.
There
is
an
emphasis
placed
upon
repairing
relationships
through
truth-telling
and
reconciliation,
hoping
that
this
will
inspire
ongoing
action
and
future
positive
relationships.
K
In
reviewing
these
two
documents,
I
can
say
that
it
is,
in
my
opinion,
not
expressly
stated
in
the
ordinance
that
this
is
specifically
something
that
is
tasked
with
this
commission
as
a
duty.
However,
I
would
also
say
that
it
is
absolutely
not
prohibited
by
the
ordinance.
K
K
I
would
see
at
this
point
that
there
is
no
specific
prohibition
or
issues
between
the
ordinance
and
the
land
acknowledgement,
and
I
would
say
that,
generally
speaking,
taken
in
the
context
of
a
public
meeting
such
as
this,
I
would.
I
would
suggest
that
it's
within
the
rights
of
any
particular
member
to
make
such
a
statement
as
well
as
the
group
at
large
to
take
any
vote
on
behalf
of
the
full
commission
to
determine
if
the
commission
itself,
as
a
body
would
like
to
make
this
statement.
K
A
N
Councilwoman,
this
is
kim
I'll,
just
name
that
it
is
my
understanding
that
for
our
advisory
boards
and
commissions
that
the
chair
and
possibly
the
vice
chair,
might
work
together
with
staff
to
bring
together
an
agenda
for
the
group
and
that
I
support
the
work
that
this
group
does
to
organize.
An
agenda,
including
the
land
acknowledgement.
I
Just
don't
have
anything
to
add
other
than
I
will
say
that
I've
been
on
other
calls
with
other
governmental
employees
around
the
country
and
I'm
hearing
the
acknowledgement
take
place
in
other
communities
as
well.
So
it
doesn't
seem
that
we're
doing
anything
that's
different
than
what
I'm
seeing
in
other
communities,
also
in
terms
of
land
acknowledgement.
E
Thank
you
very
much
councilwoman
honey
and
richard
vice
chair.
Oliver.
O
I
can't
wait.
I
was
just
waiting
to
see.
I
would
like
to
add
something
to
the
hrca's
overall
agenda,
so
whenever
you'd
like
to
hear
that
I
would
be
willing
to
tell
everyone.
J
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
what
commissioner
jones
mentioned
and
acknowledge
the
fact
of
what
he
was
actually
saying,
because
just
in
thinking
about
that
and
hearing
you
know
thank
you
brad
for
explaining
more.
But
thinking
about
that
does
that
acknowledgement
and
recognizing
you
know
the
sovereignty
of
an
individual
people.
Who's
been
also
victimized.
F
Oh,
don't
want
this
to
be
about
me.
I
want
permission
to
know
what
we're
saying
we
say
things
like
playing
an
acknowledgement
if
everybody
seems
to
be
okay.
F
M
Thank
you,
chairwoman.
I
was
wanting
to
know
from
commissioner
jones
and
also
double
o
about
the
land
acknowledgement.
Is
that
a
something
that
we
wanted
to
debate
doing
as
a
group
before
each
of
the
meetings
or
or
even
adding
acknowledgement
of
you
know
the
the
urban
renewal
that
happened
in
nashville
that
removed
land
from
our
own
community
members?
As
part
of
that.
M
Emotions,
so
maybe
my
question
is
more
for
brad.
Is
that
a
thing
that,
in
in
order
to
establish
something,
that's
a
regular
meeting
element
like
that
like
a
land
acknowledgement,
is
that
something
that
has
to
be
moved
and
motioned
and
voted
second,
and
all
that.
K
Yes,
commissioner,
chandler,
to
answer
that
question,
I
would
say
that
there
is
no
formalized
procedure
separating
whether
or
not
this
can
only
be
a
statement
by
a
single
member,
in
this
case
the
chair
or
by
the
group
as
a
whole.
If
the
group
as
a
whole
wishes
to
add
it
and
speak
on
behalf
of
the
full
commission,
you
would
need
to
take
a
vote
on
that
and
determine
if
a
majority
of
the
commission
supports
making
that
statement.
K
However,
at
this
point,
which
is
the
case
with
generally
many
public
bodies,
the
chair
has
a
certain
amount
of
leeway
to
make
statements
to
open
those
meetings,
and
I
think
at
this
point
the
chair
has
has
done
so
speaking
for
herself.
But
if
the
commission
would
like
to
add
its
voice
behind
this
or
would
like
to
vote
to
not
add
its
voice,
then
we
could
simply
add
it
as
an
agenda
item
to
either
this
or
a
future
meeting.
K
L
M
E
You
yes,
thank
you,
commissioner
chandler
commissioner
venable.
L
I
have
a
two-part
question
question
on
one:
is
it's
not
really
a
question?
I
need
more
clarity
about
what
exactly
is
a
land
acknowledgement?
What
does
that
encompass?
What
groups
does
it
accomplish?
Is
it
I
mean
I
heard
it,
but
I
don't
want
to
get
into
an
area
where
we're
like
okay,
we're
acknowledging
that
people
stole
land
that
nobody
was
implicit
and
stealing,
especially
when
I
come
from
a
just
were
of
stolen
people.
L
So
it's
kind
of
hard
and
that's
the
area
where
I
think
tiffany
was
saying
that
that's
the
area
of
where
I
could
do
more
harm
than
good,
because
when
you're
talking
about
stolen
land
and
stolen
people,
you
know
those
two
worlds
collide
and
they
collide
very
regularly
in
in
areas
when
we're
trying
to
do
work
to
solidify
equity
and
inclusion,
and
I
would
like
to
know
how
that
statement
is
going
to
be
able
to
include
folks
that
don't
so
much
have
much
liability
in
that
huge
statement.
L
Number
one
and
number
two,
and
we
don't.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
quorum
yet,
but
I
would
like
to
also
know
how
other
board
members
feel
about
that
statement
and,
what's
their
personal
and
community,
feel
about
that,
like
you
know
like
if
they
take
it
back
like
to
someone
else,
how
would
they
feel
about
that?
L
Because
I
think
a
lot
of
us
represent
other
people,
and
I
don't
think
this
is
something
that
a
lot
of
people
are
very
aware
of,
because
this
is
very
new
to
me
also
and
this
type
of
dynamic
I've
never
heard
of
this
in
any
other
board
of
commission,
which
I'm
not
saying
it's
a
bad
idea.
I
just
want
to
know
like
how
does
this
affect
other
people
going
down
the
line?
Thank
you.
K
Certainly,
I'm
happy
to.
I
think
that
the
best
description
comes
directly
from
the
materials
provided
on
the
website
of
the
group
known
as
u.s
department
of
arts
and
culture,
essentially
describing
this
process
as
a
quote
call
on
individuals
and
organizations
to
open
all
public
meetings
and
gatherings
with
acknowledgement
of
the
traditional
native
inhabitants
of
the
land,
and
I
emphasize
that,
because
I
do
believe
it
is
directed
specifically
at
native
americans,
as
the
group
being
acknowledged
here
again.
This
is
a
call
only
to
open
public
meetings
for
the
process
of
improving
the
consciousness
about
that.
L
It
it
kind
of
does,
but
I'm
gonna
be
honest
with
you
sitting
where
I'm
sitting
at
in
a
city,
that's
generationally
that
I've
been
in
for
generations
and
generations
and
I'm
a
native
american
ancestor
myself.
I
just
don't
feel
really
good
about
that.
You
know
I
am
a
native
american
black
and
hispanic
by
descent.
That
is
my
background
and
my
culture.
That's
why
my
name
is
dolores
highly
hispanic
name
on
highly
indigenous.
L
As
far
as
native
american
ancestry,
my
grandmother
was
part
of
the
tribe
of
the
cherokee
indians.
L
L
Because
you
have
the
eastern
and
western
band
of
cherokee
indians,
of
course,
we
all
know
about
the
trail
of
tears
and
it
has
been
very
discussed
about
how
black
and
black
people
played
into
the
cherokee
indians
and
how
they,
how
not
only
with
the
tribe
but
also
within
the
native
american
community.
L
There
has
been
some
disconnect
about
black
people,
white
people
and
how
we
all
play
into
this
part
of
western
north
carolina,
and
I
don't
want
us
to
necessarily
get
into
that
that
descent,
because
this
is
asheville
right
now,
and
I
don't
think
that
we
have
enough
information
to
be
able
to
make
statements
as
broad,
as
that
does.
Does
that
kind
of
make
sense
without
having
more
community
input.
L
I
don't
want
us
to
be
aborted,
saying
that
we're
doing
equity
and
inclusion
when
we
don't
have
a
broader
input
about,
should
we
be
making
these
statements
as
opening
boards.
I
do
understand
the
necessity
of
it,
but
I
also
don't
want
to
be
the
one
entity
that
says
we're
going
to
start
something
that
nobody
else
has
input
on,
especially
outside
of
ourselves.
L
J
I
just
also
wanted
to
go
back
to
what
commissioner
chandler
mentioned.
As
far
as
you
know,
recognizing
and
including
individuals
or
families
whose
land
have
been
taken
in
asheville,
like
black
families,
who've
been
uprooted
and
through
generations.
You
know
their
generational
line
has
been
changed
because
of
their
uproot
even
on
a
local
level,
and
I
know
it's
not
all
hashed
out
but
susie.
I
did
want
to
acknowledge
that
he's
mentioned
that,
and
I
thought
that
that
was
a
great
idea
to
maybe
even
explore.
E
G
Yeah
I
had
two
questions,
one
maybe
to
city
staff.
I
think,
would
it
be
possible
to
put
out
a
survey
to
ask
the
asheville
population
if
they
would
like
the
land
acknowledgement
at
the
beginning
of
our
meeting?
G
African-American
people
sound
like
like,
like
I
know,
I've
heard
the
land
acknowledgements
before
and
I
like
the
idea
that's
coming
across,
but
I
I
would
like
to
know
what
it
sounds
like
and
I
I
think
if
we
get
a
good
idea
as
to
what
it
sounds
like,
then
we
could
potentially
include
that
in
a
survey
that
goes
out
to
the
city
of
asheville,
so
city
staff
question
is:
can
we
do
a?
Can
we
get
a
survey
that
goes
out
to
the
city
of
asheville.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Quite
you
know.
I
think
this
could
be
something
that's
really
groundbreaking,
because
one
of
the
things
that
I
see
within
deconstructing
the
systems
of
oppression
is
a
lot
of
infighting
racially
and
what
a
land
acknowledgement
does.
Is
it
honors
the
people
who
were
first
impacted
by
colonialism?
A
The
native
people
here
were
enslaved
from
the
1400s
until
the
first
person
from
africa
came,
and
so
I
think
that
when
we
can
bring
both
of
those
histories
together
in
an
in
an
honorable
way
where
we
can
do
something,
that's
unique
here
in
asheville
and
asheville
is
known
for
its
uniqueness,
and
I
think
that
that
might
be
something
that
can
be
really
truly
groundbreaking
when
we
can
have
a
land
acknowledgement,
honoring,
the
sovereign
nation,
the
eastern
band
of
cherokee,
indians
and
also
the
people
that
were
brought
here
not
of
their
own
volition.
A
To
put
it
nicely,
because
any
other
way
is
egregious
to
bring
forward
that
recognition
of
historical
atrocity
to
to
build
the
foundation
of
this.
This
commission,
in
honoring
the
long
legacy
that
has
brought
us
to
this
place,
where
we
need
a
commission
to
determine
what
is
needed
to
uphold
human
relations
in
a
in
a
city
that
is,
is
is
in
racial
strife,
and
so
it's
you
know.
A
I
love
the
idea
of
joining
those
two
together
and
I
truly
believe
that
that,
as
I
shared
before,
that
can
be
an
absolutely
groundbreaking
forward.
Motion
of
setting
a
standard
for
public
meetings,
and
I
really
I
really
would
be
interested
in
seeing
how
that
looks.
A
Commissioner
jones,
commissioner,
oliver,
if
you
give
me
a
moment,
I
would
like
to
ask
for
a
volunteer
to
maybe
see
if
we
can
join
together
the
land
acknowledgement
with
an
acknowledgement
to
the
people
that
are
descendants
of
enslaved
people
here
in
asheville
to
honor
the
legacy
in
the
lineage.
That
is,
that
is
here
and
and
the
continued
oppression
that
is,
that
is,
that
is
present.
A
So
if,
if
anybody
would
like
to
do
that,
you
have
to
answer
now,
just
think
on
it,
and
maybe
we
can
do
this
today
or
you
know,
maybe
get
a
volunteer
and
start
like
a
little
mini
working
group
of
you
know,
maybe
two
or
three
people
to
to
really
write
something.
That's
super
powerful
that
everybody
just
goes.
That's
what
human
relations
look
like
and
so
are.
A
If
so,
I
just
wanted
to
put
it
out
there
to
see
if
that's
something
that
we
can
be
interested
in
and
if
somebody
wants
to
do
that,
I
imagine
I
would
more
than
welcome
a
motion
to
be
made
for
that
to
happen.
O
I
was
going
to
say
that
so
far,
we've
spent
35
minutes
on
this,
and
I
think
this
is
something
that
definitely
needs
to
be
put
to
a
work
group
or
a
site
or
something
if
you
were
the
population
of
asheville
and
you
were
watching
armenia
and
you
would
say
how
is
this
helping
us,
it
can
say
thank
you
for
the
land.
The
land
is
still
in
the
hands
of,
as
you
said,
the
oppressor.
So
it's
really
like
giving
acknowledgement
to
say
hey.
O
This
is
your
land
first,
but
we're
still
going
to
proceed
on
so
to
me,
it's
kind
of
like
back
and
forth
on
that,
I'm
not
really
sure
but
hey.
We
have
a
shooting
dilemma
going
on
in
asheville
right
now
in
the
in
the
black
community,
not
a
dilemma,
but
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
may
be
going
on
and
to
me
that's
where
a
focus
would
definitely
be
for
a
human
relations
committee.
O
Things
like
that.
So
that's
all
I
wanted
to
say
I'd
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
move
on
and
continue
on
with
the
rest
of
the
agenda.
If
need
be.
Thank.
H
A
Okay,
so
we
can
just
move
forward
in
in
the
essence
of
moving
on
okay.
Moving
on
commissioner
oliver,
you
have
the
floor.
Commissioner.
Pardon
me,
commissioner
jones.
O
Okay,
sorry,
someone
said
said:
being
a
commissioner
on
other
commission's
committees.
I
would
like
to
put
out
there
that
we
need
to
be
working
with
some
of
these
other
groups
in
order
to
attack
some
things.
Well,
tech
may
not
be
the
right
word,
but
to
try
to
take
care
of
some
things
that
are
going
on
in
the
community
in
the
city
as
a
whole.
O
Let's
get
out
to
these
and
we
have
to
start
making
some
action.
It's
to
the
point
now
where
like
lives,
are
definitely
being
taken.
O
O
That's
why
I
said
that
about
the
land
acknowledgement
my
life,
my
children's
life
are
impacted
by
what's
going
on
in
the
city
of
asheville
every
day
we
know
whose
land
we're
on
we
know
who
still
controls
it,
but
we
need
to
start
doing
some
action
like
work
groups
are
cool.
This
isn't
just
directed
towards
this
commission.
This
is
to
everything
I'm
a
part
of,
but
there
has
to
be
some
action.
The
awareness
is
put
out
there
and
nothing's
going
to
change
until
there's
some
action.
O
L
Quick,
I
like
to
say
one
thing:
I
I
do
respect
what
mr
oliver
said,
but
before
we
do
that
one
of
the
things
that
have
happened
here
in
the
community
is
people
jumping
out
and
talking
about
things
that
about
folks
and
families
that,
as
you
said,
mr
oliver,
you
have
yourself
not
been
affected
by.
Unfortunately,
I've
been
affected
by
some
of
these
things
over
time
here
in
asheville,
and
I've
seen
other
people
too,
but
we
have
to
know
when
to
when
to
speak
and
when
we're
spoken
to
as
well.
L
One
of
the
issues
that
we're
having
right
now
within
our
own
community
is
people
being
identified
as
leaders
within
our
own
communities,
who
don't
do
a
lot
of
work
within
the
communities
that
they
touch
so
to
speak,
and
I
don't
want
our
board
to
jump
out
and
start
doing
work
without
impacting
the
families
who
have
been
impacted.
L
We
need
to
include
those
people
first,
and
I
think
that's
sometimes
what
some
of
the
issues
are
here
in
ashland
that
people
jump
up
and
jump
out
and
don't
necessarily
have
all
the
the
information,
the
knowledge
of
the
tools-
and
you
know
we
are,
you
know,
we're
a
board
and
I
do
agree
with
you,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
going
to
jump
in
front
of
the
people
who
have
been
affected
the
most,
and
so
we
need
to
bring
these
people
to
the
table,
because,
if
we're
going
to
act
upon,
what's
happened
to
them,
we
need
to
have
the
stories
of
these
folks
first
hand.
L
We
don't
need
to
be
going
off
of
hearsay.
We
need
to
know
what
happened.
We
need
to
know.
You
know
what
has
how
this
has
affected
these
families.
You
know
you
know
a
lot
of
these
folks
have
children
who
have
children,
it's
generational,
and
so
I
would
impede
our
boards
if
we
do-
and
I
don't
mind
doing
that
type
of
work.
But
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
pull
the
people
who
have
been
impacted
before
we
do
anything,
because
it's
not
fair.
L
That's
speaking
for
people
that
we
don't
have
the
right
to
speak
on
behalf
of
because
if
they
want
us
to
speak
for
them,
they
would
have
came
to
us
and
it's
ways
that
we
can
get
them
to
come
to
us
and
that's
something
that
we
should
be
doing
as
individuals
in
the
black
community.
If
we're
not
out
here
talking
to
the
people
who
are
most
affected,
that's
our
fault.
L
L
We
need
to
implicitly
be
talking
to
these
families.
If
that's,
what
we're
going
to
be
doing-
and
that's
my
only
input
on
that,
thank
you.
O
I'm
gonna
say
this
to
you:
I
hope
you
didn't
take
it
in
the
way
that
we
are
gonna
jump
out
there.
It
was
put
out
there,
as
I
said,
there's
been
so
much
talking.
I
agree
with
you
about
these
community
leaders
that
you
don't
ever
see
out
there,
and
that
would
be
a
great
first
step
is
to
talking
to
the
families
who
have
immediately
been
impacted.
O
We
would
have
to
reach
out
to
some
people
were
blessed
to
have
your
presence
here,
because
you
do
know
some
of
them,
so
we
could
use
you
to
reach
out
to
them
and,
like
you
said,
we
have
to
go
there.
They're
not
just
going
to
come
to
the
board
and
be
like
hey
y'all
can
y'all
help
this.
We
have
to
do
that,
but
there
I'm
with
you.
There
are
certain
avenues
to
go
with
it.
So
to
me,
what
you
just
said
isn't
is
an
awesome
first
step
for
us.
So
so
thank
you.
E
Bountible,
thank
you
vice
chair
oliver,
commissioner
venable.
A
By
these
egregious
shootings
here
in
asheville-
and
I
I'm
I'm
hesitant
to
bring
them
before
the
hrca
only
because
of
there's
a
possibility
that
that
what
is
happening
is
being
brought
forth
is
at
their
expense
and
so
there's
a
very
delicate
line
to
bringing
forth
people's
trauma
at
their
expense.
A
Instead
of
for
the
greater
good
of
the
community,
and
so
I
wonder
how
that
can
be
done
in
a
way
that
honors
the
delicacy
of
the
how
delicate
the
situation
is,
while
also
bringing
awareness
to
the
issues
that
are
impacting
the
community,
as
as
you
as
you
should
today.
A
So
is
there
a
way
that
you
can
possibly
handle
that
commissioner
venable
and
maybe
bring
statements
to
us
from
the
families
that
are
impacted
so
that
we
can
best
know
what
steps
to
take
to
move
forward,
to
recommend
policy
to
city
council
that
will
better
protect
the
community.
L
Okay,
whoa,
that's
a
loaded,
it's
a!
This
is
a
very
loaded
situation
and
I'm
speaking
from
two
different
hats,
because
I
have
to
speak
from
the
activism
ahead
of
where
I
do
work
at
and
then
talk
from
another
whole
personal
avenue.
If
I
may
be
allowed
to
do
so,
it'd
be
very
brief
and
you're
very
right.
I
don't
think
right
now.
What
we
need
to
be
focusing
on
are
the
necessarily
the
families
who
have
been
directly
impacted
here
lately.
L
This
is
a
very
traumatizing
situation
to
even
discuss.
There
are
some
things,
I'm
not
at
liberty
to
discuss
that.
I
cannot
discuss.
You
got
a
lot
of
broken
hearts
in
asheville.
I
want
to
take
the
words
of
the
senior
michael,
mr
picot.
He
said,
and
this
is
a
91
year
old
man
and
I've
heard
him
say
it
before
you
know.
Ashley
has
a
lot
of
broken
hearts,
so
we're
dealing
with
communities
who
are
not
only
marginalized
they've
been
victimized
and
their
stories
are
already
out
there.
L
I
think,
as
a
board.
What
we
need
to
be
focusing
on
is
how
to
relegate
their
suffering
to
to
to
to
minimal
as
possible.
One
of
the
things
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
one
issue
is
we
need
to
talk
about
the
financial
impacts
that
our
city
has
had
upon
our
residents,
why
people
cannot
a
afford
to
live?
Who
who
are
of
the
same
demographic
as
the
children
that
we're
talking
about
b?
Why
aren't
their
parents
being
able
to
afford
to
live
here?
Why
are
people
put
into
these
marginalized
situations?
L
L
We
need
to
start
dealing
with
the
things
that
we
have
before
us
use
the
tools
that
we
have,
and
I
don't
like
to
use
people
as
tools
and
that's
why
I'm
very
skeptical
and
totally
against
bringing
people
in
front
of
folks
who
are
sometimes
in
a
lot
of
times,
part
of
their
suffering,
that's
traumatic
within
itself,
and
that's
why
I'm
totally
because
it
took
years
for
me
to
get
to
the
place
that
I
am
to
where
I
feel
comfortable
enough
and
a
lot
of
times.
I
don't
you
know
a
lot
of
times
after
these
meetings.
L
I
have
anxiety
trauma,
you
know
you
have
to
go
through
things,
and
so
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
people
understand
it.
These
are
spaces
that
many
of
us
are
in,
and
it's
simply
due
to
luck
a
lot
of
times.
You
know
these
are
discussions
that
I
see
on
public
platforms,
and
I
sometimes
just
let
other
people
talk.
So
I
can
just
see
what
they
say.
L
This
is
a
discussion
that
took
place
on
another
public
page
here
just
a
couple
days
ago,
when
people
talking
about
you
know
how
politicized
some
of
these
board
commissions
are,
and
you
don't
want
to
politicize
people's
angst
and
their
suffering
and
the
loss
of
their
children.
L
So
I
don't
want
to
use
our
board
in
that
aspect,
but
we
do
have
a
disparity
study
that
we
can
use.
We
have
determinants
of
health
that
we
know
for
a
fact
that
black
individuals
in
this
city
suffer
from
strategically
have
been
impacted.
Generationally.
These
are
the
things
that
we
can
be
looking
at
as
a
board,
and
you
don't
necessarily
need
to
have
working
groups.
We
need
to
call
these
these
entities
into
accountability.
L
You
have
right
in
front
of
us
where
we
can
just
ask
people
to
come
and
just
give
us
a
simple
report
about
what
have
you
done
to
improve
bank
businesses
over
the
last
two
years?
What
have
you
done
to
improve
the
relationships
between
you
know,
people
and
and
policing
and
communities?
What
have
you
done
to
do
this?
These
are
things
that
we
can
tangibly
do,
but
I
don't
want
to
use
you
know
the
suffering
of
other
people
to
legitimize
our
work.
L
I
don't
know
if
that
makes
sense,
and
I'm
trying
to
be,
like
kind
of
you
know,
play
the
devil's
advocate
on
that
side,
because
I
have
been
on
that
side
of
the
board.
It's
not
a
comfortable
place
when
you
see
your
folks
in
the
news
every
day,
everybody
talking
about
things,
I
don't
even
know
what
they're
talking
about
it's,
not
cool.
A
Commissioner
venable
I
want
to,
I
wanted
a
pardon
my
interruption
and
I
wanted
to
catch
this
before
it
before
it
flies
out.
The
and
and
vice
vice
chair.
Oliver
has
raised
a
hand.
A
A
So
I'm
wondering
what
entities
specifically?
L
I
think
you
know,
I
really
don't
have
anything
outside
the
minority
business
office
office
that
that's
one
place,
that
we
can
start
at,
that
that's
the
place
of
what
we
need
information
numbers
from.
We
need
to
know
exactly
how
we're
looking
here
business
wise,
because
a
lot
of
black
folks
here
don't
work.
Minorities
don't
have
jobs,
they've
had
to
create
jobs.
L
L
You
know
you
can
go,
get
a
mission
to
come
through
and
talk
about
that.
You
have
dogwood
all
these
entities
that
you
can
have
come
and
talk
to
you
about.
What's
going
on
here,
you
have
issues
going
on
like
what's
what
what
has
been
a
number
since
the
pandemic?
With
you
know,
community
community
policing
all
these
issues,
we
have
determinants
of
health
that
we
could
be
hitting
and
we
have
every
entity
within
those
within
the
city
of
asheville
that
we
could
be
asking
these
questions
to.
L
E
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Vanderbilt
vice
chair
oliver.
O
Quickly,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
something
when
I
was
bringing
this
up
between
about
the
board.
I
think
the
shootings
are
the
result
of
things
that
are
going
on
like
you're
talking
about
the
financial
disparity.
O
So
when
I
asked
the
board
to
be
talking
about
this
or
things
like
that,
I
definitely
was
am
in
agreement
or
open
to
exactly
what
you're
saying
talking
about
and
fixing
the
problems
and
holding
people
accountable
us
as
a
board.
We
talk
about,
we
can
recommend
things
to
city
council.
Are
we
using
that
or
are
we
really
putting
fire
to
these
people
and
say
hey?
There
needs
to
be
focus
on
this
community.
Are
we
really
holding
them
accountable?
That's
more
along
the
lines
of
that's
going
on,
but
definitely
a
great
thing.
You're
saying.
A
L
L
A
Commissioner
young,
would
you
like
to
be
in
charge
of
bringing
the
city
schools
to
the
a
commission
meeting.
P
Information
well
good
evening:
everybody,
I
think
maybe
miss
tiffany,
can
help
with
that.
I
mean
me
and
brandon
and
black
men's
money
we
already
working
on
we
gonna
for
the
community,
so
we
can
address
this
issue,
and
but
I
do
want
to
speak
about
this
stuff
that
we're
talking
about
with
this
shooting
and
stuff.
P
I
I
do
want
to
clear
up
something
the
news
was
saying
this
was
gang
related.
This
is
not
what
this
is.
This
was
not
gang
related.
First
of
all,
we
need
to
have.
We
need
to
hold
the
news
people
accountable
for
putting
out
false
narratives
about
our
community
by
them
doing.
That
is
putting
a
sign
on
these
black
men
in
our
communities
that
are
not
in
no
games
to
be
targeted
by
these
damn
police
officers.
P
P
I
mean
this
stuff
that
happened
with
this
gun.
Stuff
is
something
that's
been
going
on
that
could
have
been
solved
out
if
us,
as
a
community,
as
parents
as
men,
talk
to
these
kids
and
squash
all
these
problems
that
they
got.
So,
let's
I
mean
that
that's
what
this
is,
what
what
my
energy
is
right
now.
I
think
it's
needed
it's
more.
It's
kind
of
it's
right
now.
This
is
imperative
that
we
do
address
this
with
these
kids.
P
I
mean
for
right
now
I
think,
with
the
school
situation,
maybe
miss
tiffany.
If
she
don't
mind
she
can
she
can
work
on
that
and
me
and
brandon
can
get
back
with
y'all
next
meeting
about
what
what
we
got
going
on
the
numbers
and
stuff
about
the
suspension
rate
from
the
the
numbers
of
black
people,
that's
being
suspended
by
the
schools
from
elementary
all
the
way
up
to
the
high
school.
P
I
mean
I
think
we
do
need
to
address
that,
but
right
now
I
think
this
trying
to
hear
these
young
black
men
in
our
community
is
right.
Now
my
number
one
agenda
thank
y'all.
J
B
J
An
impact-
and
there
is
data
out
there
as
far
as
school
suspensions,
but
I
must
say,
asheville
middle
school
as
a
pilot
is
really
implementing
some
new,
innovative
ways
of
restoring
and
repairing
relationships
before
there's
just
punitive.
You
know
disciplinary
actions
that
happens
or
takes
place.
So
that
is
a
good
piece.
J
United
way
also
has
impact
report,
and
a
community
needs
assessment
that
that
information
could
funnel
to
hrca,
also
so
that
we
could
see
the
data
that's
already
been
collected
and
then
kind
of
have
a
base,
a
baseline
of
where
to
go
next,
but
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
volunteer
and
work
with
others.
On
this.
A
M
Thank
you.
I
was
going
to
offer
along
the
lines
of
the
social
determinants
of
health.
I'm
married
to
a
public
health
professional
who
works
at
mayheck
in
their
community
benefit
department,
particularly
among
community
health
workers,
and
they
constantly
are
checking
this
data
about
the
social
determinants
of
health,
and
I
could
probably
probably
relatively
easy,
easily
find
out
the
data
that
we're
looking
for.
If
you
can
identify
specifically
what
we
want
to
know
about
that.
A
You
very
much
for
that,
so
the
data
would
be
the
mortality
rate
where
we
at
where
are
we
with
covid
in
relation
to
racial
distribution
of
vaccines?
A
What's
our
vaccine
rate
here
in
asheville
and
are
there
any
health
disparities
that
are
racial
in
nature,
that
we
can
bring
recommendations
to
city
council
for
awareness
and
action
with?
L
L
What
is
the
infant
mortality
rate
here
compared
to
two
years
ago?
What
is
our
mortality
rate
as
a
community
compared
to
two
years
ago,
because
I
do
know
that
ashley
has
won
the
highest
mortality
rates
in
the
state
of
north
carolina
for
blacks.
So
these
are
the
things
that
I
also
keep
up
with
because
of
the
work
that
I
do.
L
I
have
to
work
and
I
use
other
organizations
to
be
able
to
get
these
different
data
fields,
because
it's
different
ways
that
this
data
is
collect
collected
and
it
really
depends
on
exactly
sometimes
what
nature
people
are
trying
to
access
when
and
so
also,
we
need
to
be
talking
about
what
has
the
things
that
we've
seen,
because
during
the
pandemic
there
were
black
people
who
got
killed,
george
floyd
got
killed
during
the
pandemic.
We
had
riots
across
this
country
during
the
pandemic.
What
effect
they
have
on
our
communities
as
a
people?
A
So
I
just
want
to
recap
on
that,
so
commissioner
chandler
you're,
going
to
be
bringing
for
for
us
next
meeting
data
regarding
health
disparities
in
asheville,
commissioner
debolo.
A
Is
going
to
be
bringing
information
with
the
united
way
impact
report.
J
Yes,
in
the
school
district,
I'm
sorry
guys
it's
like
really
loud
everywhere,
you're
good,
it's
okay,
but
also
with
the
disciplinary
numbers.
J
A
Thank
you,
and
I'm
commissioner
young
and
vice
chair
oliver
you're,
bringing
in.
A
A
are,
would
you
like
to
bring
in
asheville
city
schools
for
that
or
just
to
recap
on,
because
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
have
everybody
written
down
vice
chair
oliver,
if
you
can
help
me
out
with
that.
O
A
Absolutely
I'm
I'm
totally
on
board
with
that.
We
don't
have
quorum.
Do
we
so
I
think
we're
missing
one
for
forum.
A
C
G
Oh,
that
was
an
accident
I
apologize.
I
was
well.
I
can.
Actually.
I
did
have
one
thing.
Ms
vinabel
mentioned
the
murder
of
george
floyd.
Last
year
there
was
a
young
man
died
in
west
asheville,
con
mckenzie.
E
A
Would
you
like
to
maybe
if
I
send
you
the.
A
The
land
acknowledgement,
if
you
can
write
an
addition
to
that
that
honors,
the
people
here
in
asheville
that
are
descendants
of
enslaved
people
or
if
commissioner
jones
would
like
to
add
to
that.
I
think
that
that
might
be
a
really
good
thing
that
we
can
bring
forward
next
meeting
so
that
we
can.
We
can
do
some
really
groundbreaking
stuff
in
here.
L
L
I
would
need
to
go
out
and
it
would
take
me
months
to
be
able
to
do
that
to
go
door
to
door
to
every,
because
that's
what
I
do
you
know
when
I
want
to
know
something
about
the
black
folks
who
live
here.
I
go
knock
on
every
individual
door
like
when
my
mom
ran
for
city
council.
You
go
knock
on
every
door
in
every
project
and
you
ask
people
what
is
going
on
what's
wrong.
What
do
you
need,
and
so
I
would
have
to
explain
that
to
every
black
person
here
ashland.
L
But
it's
a
really
that's
a
really
big
ask
and
I'm
not
comfortable
without
taking
that
to
every
community
center
within
every
housing
development
within
some
places
outside
of
asheville,
where
some
other
people
who
have
been
impacted
by
that
issue
from
I
don't
feel
comfortable
taking
that
to
these
folks.
But
you
know
saying
something
without
these
folks
input,
because
it's
more
than
me,
this
is
not
about
me.
It's
not
about
you
know
the
few
of
us
on
this
board.
You,
you
feel
what
I'm
saying
like.
L
I
just
don't
feel
comfortable
with
that,
and
I
I
that's
it
I'm
sorry.
I
would
really
love
to
do
that.
If
people
would
say
hey
look,
we
would
love
for
the
lawyers
to
do
that.
I
would
do
it
if
we,
if
ash
or
black
lives
matter,
if
they
say
astral
black
lives
matter,
go
do
that.
I
would
do
that,
but
I
just
don't
feel
comfortable
doing
that
not
in.
L
J
If
I
could
just
jump
and
just
say
that
dolores
I
think
that's
such
a
great
idea-
and
I
truly
support
it
as
well,
and
that
can
also
be
a
part
of
what
community
engagement
can
look
like,
because
we
already
have
an
operational
working
group
and
then
the
collaboration
with
the
city
itself.
L
I
just
want
folks
to
know
it
wouldn't
be
quick.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
like.
We
can't
do
something
like
that
real
quick.
It
would
take
time
to
do
that
and
it's
going
to
take
more
than
a
month
or
two
months
or
three
months.
This
is
when
you're
talking
about
community
engagement.
You
got
to
go
places
and
talk
to
people.
You
got
to
see
people
where
they're
at
and
you
know
we're
not
all
in
one
place,
and
so
I
I
totally
agree
with
tiffany.
L
You
know
I'd
be
willing
to
do
that,
but
I'm
just
not
willing
to
make
that
call
on
behalf
of
the
whole
black
community
and
say
dolores
did
it
I'm
not
willing
to,
because
I
don't
speak
for
the
whole
black
community
when
the
lord
speaks.
The
lord
can
only
really
speak
for
the
lord's
unless
other
people
have
kind
of
asked
me
to
say.
Will
you
take
this
before
somebody,
and
nobody
asked
me
to
bring
this
before
anyone
and
I
don't
feel
comfortable.
L
A
A
A
Are
we
good
with
moving
on?
Do
we
need
to
bring
these
to
a
vote,
or
is
it
just
a
okay
is
an
understanding
that
we've
developed
these
quasi-working
groups
of
of
of
actions
born
from
this
meeting.
K
Madam
chair,
I
don't
believe
I've
heard
anything
that
would
absolutely
necessitate
a
vote.
I
think
that
everyone
is
is
free
to
move
on,
with
whatever
their
charges
have
been
or
what
they've
offered
to
provide
at
future
meetings.
If
you
are
moving
on,
I
might
suggest
you
do
have
a
quorum
now
you
are
able
to
approve
the
minutes.
If
the
commission
is
willing.
A
Wonderful,
thank
you.
Brad
has
everybody
got
a
chance
to
look
at
the
minutes,
they're
in
the
chat.
So
if
you
can
take
a
moment
to
look
at
the
minutes
and
if
everybody
can
raise
your
hand
when
you
have
read
the
minutes
and
then
we'll
take
a
vote.
A
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
thank
commissioner
young
and
vice
chair
oliver
for
doing
what
you're
doing
for
the
black
youth
here
in
asheville
and
bringing
that
clarity
with
the
misinformation
of
the
news.
It's
very
important
for
the
people
watching
this
video
to
know
and
to
have
clarity
on,
and
I
appreciate
you
speaking
up
about
that
and
setting
the
record
straight
so
that
people
can
understand
what's
really
going
on,
and
and
thank
you
for
that.
A
M
The
minutes
that
I'm
seeing
are
from
two
meetings
ago
is
that
correct,
so
moved.
Thank.
A
You
roll
call
vote,
susie,
chandler.
A
A
You
pardon
me,
thank
you,
commissioner.
Double
a
roll
call
vote,
commissioner
doubleo.
A
E
P
A
And
yes,
for
me,
minutes
are
approved
unanimously.
Q
You
so
we
met
in
may
with
a
lady
named
dawa
hitch
who
works
for
the
city.
She
works
in
the
city's
cape
department.
Cape
is
an
acronym
for
community
and
public
engagement.
Q
I
put
together
a
white
sheet
which
is
in
your
attachments
that
goes
over
the
services
that
kate
provides
us
as
a
commission,
dawah
hitch
miss
pitch
wanted
me
to
definitely
emphasize
to
you
that
they
believe
in
the
relevance
of
building
relationships.
Q
Q
So
when
we're
talking
about
violence
and
things
of
that
nature,
I
think
that
us,
rather
than
reaching
out
to
maybe
the
victims,
families
we
could
reach
out
to
the
neighborhood
advisory
committees
and
get
information
that
way
and
that's
something
that
kate
can
help
us
with
just
to
wrap
it
up.
I
mean,
if
you
look
at
the
white
sheep,
it's
attached.
It's
all
pretty
explanatory.
Q
Q
Okay,
great
so,
basically,
we
don't
have
to
really
make
a
wheel.
A
wheel
has
already
been,
as
far
as
sending
out
messages
to
the
community
and
doing
things
like
community
surveys
and
things
of
that
nature.
There
is
an
entity
that
is
already
operational
within
the
sit
within
the
city
structure
that
can
help
us
they're
not
going
to
control
what
we
do
necessarily
but
they're
a
resource
in
reaching
out.
Q
So
we
met
with
miss
hitch.
We
sent
her
a
a
handwritten.
Thank
you,
note
and
they're
ready
to
help
us
whenever
we
need
help.
So
you
know
I
guess
it's
the
deal
of
once.
We
get
some
some
work
done
and
we
want
to
let
the
community
know
about
it.
Whenever
we
get
to
the
point
that
we
want
to
send
a
survey
or
access
some
of
these
neighborhood
advisory
committees
for
information,
all
of
that
is
accessible
to
us.
Q
A
Wonder
if
we
can
make
a
hrca
facebook
page
and
bring
in
community
issues,
events
offer
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
specifically
interact
with
us
online
or
have
a
way
to
interact
with
us
online
that
might
that
might
not
have
not
not
put
people
in
a
position
where
they
can
be
traumatized
by
sitting
in
front
of
a
commission
sharing
their
experience
in
the
community.
Sometimes
that's
needed.
I
understand
that
it's
important
yeah.
Q
Q
A
To
cut
you
off,
you're
good,
I
get
it.
Thank
you
very
much
for
keeping
the
meeting
on
task.
Thank
you
very
much
moving
on.
Do
you
feel
complete
with
that,
commissioner,
juan.
E
A
You
moving
on
to
unfinished
business,
discussing
a
potential
retreat
date.
Do
we
do
a
doodle
poll
in
an
email
and
by
doing
a
doodle
poll?
Is
that
considered
a.
A
K
Madam
chair,
I
can
probably
weigh
in
on
that.
I
I
think
that
there
is
a
difference
between
surveying
for
an
opinion
and
taking
official
action
on
anything
for
any
action
that
this
board
might
take,
whether
it
be
to
approve
an
agenda
item
or
to
direct
any
members
of
the
commission
to
take
certain
action,
even
approving
the
minutes
or
other
sort
of
procedural
actions.
Those
do
require
a
vote,
but
there's
nothing
wrong
with.
I
believe,
taking
a
general
survey
of
the
group
to
gather
an
opinion.
A
Very
much
appreciate
that
councilwoman.
N
Rooney
apologies.
That
was
a
mistake,
but
I
was
going
to
ask
if
the
staff
updates
were
intended
to
be
skipped.
A
I
Well,
I
wish
I
could
give
you
lots
of
details,
but
I
don't
have
a
lot
to
offer
other
than
I
anticipate.
There
will
be
some
announcement
early
next
week
relative
to
our
direct
record
inclusions,
so
anticipate
that
sometime
next
week.
A
I
have
seen
some
rumblings
online
that
there
wasn't
anybody
hired
the
the
whole
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
has
left
and
and
now
including
you,
and
so
I
wonder:
what's
what's
the
process
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
hrca,
if
there's
no
office
of
equity
and
inclusion,
and
are
we
going
to
be
picking
up
that
slack
from
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
or
what's
gonna
go
on
with
that.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
and
so
are
you?
Did
you
land
on
a
hire
or
did?
Is
somebody
coming
in
or
is
there
going
to
be
just
a
open
office
for
some
time,
I'm
just
reflecting
what
I
saw
on
the
online
so
that
we
can
clear
the
narrative
because
there's
a
lot
of
people
making
stuff
up.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
community
that
we
serve
is
well
informed
about
what's
happening
in
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion.
C
A
All
right,
that's,
it
speaks
volumes
and
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that.
G
If
I,
if,
if
what
you've
heard,
is
accurate,
I
would
absolutely
like
to
know
the
full
detail
as
to
how
the
entire
staff
from
the
department
can
leave
and
no
one
applies
for
the
job,
and
I
feel
pretty
comfortable
in
saying
that
most
of
asheville
would
probably
want
to
know
that
answer
as
well,
especially
a
department
that
is
so
vital
to
the
city
moving
forward
with
anything.
F
F
F
And
we
have
not
ever
heard
the
city
council
say
this
is
what
we
want
from
you
this
week
this
month,
that's
never
happened.
Okay,
it's
never
happened
through
the
record
of
conclusion,
because
we
never
had
anybody.
Kimberly
was
never
fully
present.
Okay
and
adventure
to
all
the
respect
hit.
Richard
was
handed
us,
but
at
least
been
preoccupied
with
something
else.
We
all
know
what
that
was,
so
we
have
not
had
good
players
on
because
that's
not
a
reflection
of
you.
F
We
didn't
have
a
connection
from
the
staff,
but
nobody
was
here.
You've
been
left
alone,
trying
to
find
purpose
now
we're
collecting
data
from
people
that
could
like
data.
Unless
we've
done
it
we're
going
to
go
out
and
collect
data
from
the
people
that
collect
data,
we're
giving
people
work
to
do
to
accommodate
us.
F
I
checked
that
out
with
people
on
the
city
council,
I
checked
about
what
people
are
saying
politically,
they
have
to
live
with
us
who
wants
to
be
tolerated
that
way?
I
don't
so
pay
attention.
What's
going
on,
what's
not
happening
to
this
group,
we're
trying
to
define
who
we
are,
but
nobody's
begging
us
to
exist,
nobody,
but
us
and
that's
my
obligation.
E
Thank
you,
commissioner
jones
richard.
A
Do
you
do
you
think
that
you
might
be
able
to
bring
in
city
manager
deborah
campbell
into
the
next
meeting,
to
help
guide
us
through
this
process
with
you,
because
you're
you're
going
and
there's
a
transition
process?
And
I
I
I
feel
that
it's
important
for
city
manager,
deborah
campbell
to
come
in
and
help
us
understand
what
our
path
and
in
place
is
moving
forward
as
well
as
what
to
expect
as
you
shared
during
this
transition
period.
A
So
it
doesn't
all
fall
on
you
so
that
we
can
understand
what's
going
on
too
and
then
the
community
can
as
well
is
that
possible.
Councilwoman.
N
L
Okay,
just
real
quick,
I
don't
know
who
can
answer
this.
I
don't
know
if
it's
brad
the
assistant
city
manager
account
so,
regardless
of
what's
in
that
office,
we
operate
underneath
city
council
and
that's
it
correct
just
trying
to
get
clarity
on
who
we
operate
underneath.
So
it's
not
the
city,
manager's
office,
it's
city
council,
correct,
just
trying
to
make
sure
like
where
we're
like
who
we
operate
underneath
so
is
it
the
office
of
equity
inclusion
or
is
it
do
we
operate
on
the
city
council?
Thank
you.
K
Hi,
commissioner,
venerable,
I
can
answer
that.
Yes,
you
are
a
committee
formed
by
and
operating
under
the
city
council.
The
city
staff
is
generally
designating
members
of
city
staff
to
provide
support
to
you,
that's
usually
specific,
to
a
certain
department
and
for
this
group
that
department
providing
that
support
would
generally
be
the
office
of
equity
inclusion.
But
you
work
directly
under
the
city
council.
L
A
Much
so
it
is
possible
for
thank
you
for
bringing
in
being
willing
to
bring
in
city
manager,
deborah
campbell
to
explore
options.
Moving
forward
is
a
collaborative
advisory
board
with
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
to
bring
recommendations
and
policy
to
city
council
in
collaboration
with
that
city
department.
A
So,
in
closing
statements
before
we
make
a
motion
to
adjourn,
we
have
about
two
more
minutes
left.
Is
there
any
pressing
issues
that
anybody
would
like
to
bring
to
the
floor
before
we
adjourn?
Also?
Are
there
any
public
comments
that
have
come
in
for
us
to
read
before
we
address.
M
I
I
have
a
question
about
going
forward.
Are
we
planning
on
resuming
in-person
meetings
and
what
is
that
going
to
look
like
for
those
of
us
who
have
never
been
to
an
in-person
meeting
next
month?.
D
And
I
can
speak
to
that.
That's
why
I
had
my
hand
raised
here.
Yes,
this
will
be
our
last
virtual
meeting.
This
committee
has
traditionally
met
in
the
first
floor
conference,
room
of
city
hall,
so
we're
adjusting
for
that
again.
It's
gonna
be
5
30,
your
usual
meeting
time,
which
I
believe
your
next
meeting
is
august
19th,
and
there
is
parking
on
the
side
of
city
hall
on
marjory
street.
J
I
want
to
just
back
sorry
real
fast
just
pertaining
to
the
meetings
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
point
of
last
meeting,
just
taking
our
meeting
to
community
at
some
point
really
pretty
much
the
ymi
and
that
came
from
commissioner
jones.
A
A
B
J
F
N
There,
though,
there's
not
a
clear,
in
my
perspective,
liaison
role
as
far
as
what
goes
back
and
forth
from
the
council,
I
have
put
together
a
report
back
document
so
that
any
time
a
advisory
board
such
as
this
one
has
official
advisement.
That
goes
to
the
council
that
I
type
that
as
a
report-
and
I
send
it
to
the
chair
of
this
group
in
this
case
tanya,
and
also
to
my
fellow
colleagues
and
for
example,
in
this
meeting,
there
wasn't
an
official
recommendation
to
council.
N
There
has
not
been
a
conversation
at
a
public
meeting
where
that
has
come
up.
We
do
have
a
upcoming
boards
and
commissions
committee
meeting
and
I'm
happy
to
ask
my
colleagues
there
at
that
level.
If
a
formal
report
for
boards
and
commissions
could
be
made.
N
Yes,
very
much
so
every
single
one
of
our
volunteers,
but
especially
for
the
heavy
conversations
that
this
group
has
been
having
and
in
a
virtual
format.
I
cannot
express
deeper
gratitude.
It
adds
to
my
understanding
and
to
my
work
as
a
representative.
A
There
was
a
houseless
community
prohibition
on
encampment
removal
and
the
inclement
weather
houseless
community
recommendation.
N
Is
that
a
question
directed
at
me?
Yes,
I
did
submit
the
recommendations
from
this
commission
to
the
full
council.
I
do
not
yet
have
a
formal
response.
Thank
you
very
much
for.
A
Doing
that
all
right
sounds
like
this
meeting
has
been
amazing
and
it's
truly
honored
to
serve
as
chair
with
all
of
you
with
that,
let's
make
a
motion
to
adjourn
so
moved.
C
O
A
Commissioner,
yes
and
cher
tanya,
yes,
looking
forward
to
seeing
all
of
your
faces
next
month,
take
it
easy
and
thank
you
very
much
brad
and
councilwoman
rooney.