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B
Thanks
amy
well
good
afternoon,
everybody,
I'm
michael
stratton,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
multimodal
transportation
commission
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
to
you
to
today's
meeting.
This
is
our
first
meeting
of
2021,
so
fingers.
B
Last-
and
I
am
very
hopeful
for
that-
the
multimodal
commission-
I'm
sorry,
multimodal
transportation
commission
exists
to
assist
the
city
in
furthering
advancing
and
promoting
a
comprehensive,
integrative
transportation
system
that
incorporates
multimodal
concepts,
including,
but
not
limited,
to,
transit,
bicycle
and
pedestrian
facilities,
greenways
complete
streets
and
highways.
B
All
commission
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
today.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
work
through
the
commission
meeting
a
bit
differently
than
we
had
when
we
were
in
live
session.
Face-To-Face
we're
streaming
live
on
the
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link,
that's
found
on
the
city
webpage,
and
it
can
also
be
found
on
the
commission
webpage.
B
for
those
of
you
that
are
joining
us
today.
Virtually
we
just
want
to
say
welcome.
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
the
commission
members
who
are
participating
today
virtually
with
us.
Please
make
sure
that
you
unmute,
when
it's
your
your
opportunity
and
yourself
at
the
end,
when
you're,
not
speaking,
if
you
have
a
question
or
you'd
like
to
speak,
please
unmute
your
microphone
or
wave.
B
Just
let
us
know
please
remember,
to
mute
your
phone
after
you're
done
speaking,
so
I'm
going
to
go
through,
introduce
everybody
and
please
let
us
know
which
which
interest
you
represent.
So
we'll
start
with
randy
warren.
G
Sexton
hi
sorry,
I
had
to
hit
my
mute,
I'm
anna
sexton
and
I
am
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
liaison
to
the
multi-modal
transportation
commission.
B
D
D
H
Hey
kenny
armstrong
also
on
the
greenway
city.
B
And
I'm
glad
you're
here
as
well.
Next
we're
going
to
go
with
dennis
wenzel.
B
D
B
Got
lydia.
A
C
Hey
I'm
john
bossoni
and
I
represent
transit.
B
Awesome
glad
to
see
you-
and
it
looks
like
our
liaison
to
council-
is
here
kim
ronnie.
K
Glad
to
join
you
all
today
until
four
and
I'll
review
the
rest
of
the
meeting
after
and
congratulations,
michael
on
welcoming
david
to
your
family.
A
little
bit
early.
B
I
appreciate
that
yeah.
So
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know
I
am
a
brand
new
father,
a
very,
very
early,
unexpected
father,
my
little
boy
is
in
the
mission
I
see.
B
Weeks
early,
but
I
I'm
very
happy
to
report
all
systems
go
everything's
working
well,
he's
growing,
he's
really
passing
every
metric
that
you
could
possibly
hope
for
so
his
mother
and
I
amanda
are
really
really
really
happy
to
be
new
parents.
D
B
You,
okay,
so
let's,
let's
keep
it
rolling,
so
we're
going
to
start
with
the
commission
agenda
items
to
help
our
audience,
follow
along
I'll
state
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
and
do
a
vocal
roll
call
anytime
that
we
need
to
do
a
vote.
B
Additionally,
asset
commission
members
raise
their
hands
to
speak,
just
to
kind
of
help
us
guide
through
this
and
then
I'll
call
upon
you
that
way.
We
can
keep
everything
organized.
D
All
right
bear
with
me.
B
So,
first
off
we
are
going
to
review
and
approve
the
agenda.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
today's
agenda.
B
Okay,
that
was
kenny
armstrong
with
with
the
motion
do
I
have
a
second.
B
I
B
I
think
dennis
came
in
a
little
quick,
a
little
hot
off
the
draw
there.
So
he's
our
second
and
I'm
going
to
do
a
roll
call
at
this
point
to
approve
today's
agenda.
So
first
off
we've
got
randy
warren
hi
anna
sexton
hi,
joe
archbald.
D
J
B
A
B
D
Very
there
you
go
and
john
hi.
B
Okay,
so
moved
good
deal,
so
we're
gonna
move
on
to
the
minutes
now
from
the
last
meeting
that
we
had,
that
was
on
december
10th.
So
if
everybody's
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
those
and
things
that
were
good,
I'm
going
to
call
for
a
motion
for
the
approval
of
last
meetings.
Minutes.
I
All
right,
michael,
is
dennis
I'll
move
that
we
approve
the
meaning
minutes
from
that
date.
Whatever
date
that
is.
B
And
who
was
that
sorry,
john,
all
right
cool,
so
I've
got
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
minutes
from
the
last
multimodal
commission
transportation
commission
meeting
that
was
held
on
december
10th
and
we'll
go
on
to
a
roll
call
again,
so
we've
got
randy
warren.
F
H
J
J
D
B
H
D
B
B
So
the
first
bullet
point
we've
got
on
here
is
to
appoint
a
new
chair
and
vice
chair
for
this
commission
and,
as
I
was
saying
just
a
couple
minutes
ago,
I
have
a
brand
new
giant
responsibility
that
I
I
feel
very
unprepared
for
so
I
I
need
to
open
up
some
bandwidth
for
that.
Also,
I've
been
on
this
commission,
or
at
least
in
the
chair
capacity
for
about
a
year,
which
I
think
is
a
really
good
time
frame
for
for
somebody
to
stay
in
this.
B
In
this
role,
I
really
like
the
idea
that
people
can
kind
of
transition
through
carry
the
water
for
a
little
bit
and
it
really
helps.
I
think,
all
of
our
members
really
have
some
ownership
of
of
this
commission.
So
you
know
we
don't
know
telling
how
this
will
move
forward,
but
it'd
be
a
nice
precedent.
If
we,
if
we
can
look
at
a
year
or
every
now
and
again
for
for
movement,
I
just
think
it
kind
of
makes
sense.
B
But
that
said
I'm
going
to
open
up
discussion
about
this
regarding
the
the
replacement
chair
and
vice
chair.
So
let's
take
it
away.
You
guys
any
thoughts.
F
This
is
randy,
we've
had
actually
michael.
I
had
a
little
offline
discussion
for
this
small
group,
so
we
were
legal
legally.
I
think
with
our
discussion
that
too
and
my
my
plate
is
such
that
I
don't
think
I
can
take
the
chair
position
or
I
could
maybe
if
I
had
to,
but
I
think
I
could
say,
advice
advice
chair,
if
you
guys
might
consider
me
for
that,
but
we
had
talked
to
dennis
about
possibly
being
the
chair.
F
I
think
that
death
has
some
really
good
experience
outside
this
commission
and
I've
really
enjoyed
his
comments
that
he's
made
and
the
meetings
you've
had
and
his
enthusiasm
for
engaging
in
the
in
the
group,
and
I
think
that
he'd
be
an
outstanding
person,
and
we
mentioned
this.
Actually
he
is
willing
to
do
so.
So
if
we
would
want
to
make
him
chair,
I
think
I
would
endorse
that
fully
and
he
is
prepared
to
do
so
me
speaking
for
dennis,
but
then
especially
speak
for
yourself.
B
And
I'll
have
to
concur
with
randy.
I
think
dennis
brings
a
lot
of
experience
to
the
table
which
I'll
let
him
speak
to,
but
he's
served
on
a
on
a
commission
or
a
committee.
That's
been
that
was
similar
in
nature
to
this
one
before
he
moved
to
asheville.
Also.
B
I
just
think
he
brings
a
like
a
very
even
keeled
disposition
to
to
the
table
which
is
really
nice,
and
what
I've
learned
about
about
this
role
is
that
coming
into
it,
I
came
in
hot
and
heavy
into
the
multimodal
just
as
a
member,
but
when
I
became
the
chair,
I
realized
it's
a
little
bit
more
of
a
diplomatic
role
where
you've
kind
of
got
to
hurt
cats
a
little
bit
and
get
everybody
to
come
to
an
accord,
and
I
do
think
dennis
is
going
to
be
able
to
bring
that
skill
set
to
the
table.
B
But
dennis
do.
D
I
Sure
I
spent
a
little
bit
of
time
about
eight
years
in
total
on
a
very
similar
committee
in
a
previous
town
that
I
lived
in,
and
so
I'm
kind
of
familiar
with
the
process
and
this
process
that
you
know
how
things
kind
of
flow
through
and
I
think
michael's
right.
It's
you
know
we.
We
want
to
have
a
balance
of
good,
healthy
discussion
and
participation,
but
we
also
need
to
make
sure
we're
getting
through
all
these
items
that
come
through
us.
I
So
we
can
be
of
service
to
the
city
as
well.
Of
course,
you
know
we're
going
to
certainly
miss
you
as
our
chair
michael,
but
we
do.
You
know
we're
all
very
excited
and
happy
for
you
and
you
know
the
fact
that
you're
sleeping
about
probably
20
or
30
minutes
a
day.
Now
we
understand
that
you're
looking
to
get
a
little
time
on
the
side
to
take
care
of
your
young
son.
B
B
You
know
high
value
topics
in
this
in
this
city,
and
I
think
you
know
whoever
is
going
to
be
putting
themselves
in
in
this
role-
needs
to
have
a
little
bit
more
bandwidth
than
I'm
able
to
have.
So
I
hope
you
guys
understand
that,
and
I
want
you
all
know
that
I'm
gonna
I'm
not
going
anywhere.
I'm
going
to
continue
to
serve
out
my
term
here,
but
just
be
a
little
bit
different
capacity.
H
H
Why
not
unless
there's
no
further
discussion,
I
move
that
dennis
wenzel
become
our
board
chair
or
commission,
chair
and
randy
warren
stay
on,
as
vice
chair
for
a
year
minimum.
Do
we
need
to
put
a
timetable
in
there.
B
I
I
don't
think
we
need
a
timetable,
in
fact
I'd
say:
let's,
let's
keep
that,
let's
keep
that
open
just
so
some
people
can
have
some
fluidity,
okay,
well,
very
good.
I've
got
a
motion.
Do
I
have
a
second.
B
Was
that
john?
Yes,
okay,
very
good?
Okay,
so
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
to
add
dennis
as
the
the
new
chair
for
2021
and
randy
is
going
to
continue
on
as
the
vice
chair.
So
we're
going
to
go
to
a
roll
call
vote
on
that
motion
and
we'll
start
with
randy.
L
D
J
D
J
B
Right,
emotions
passed
well,
congratulations
dennis
and
randy
and
we
look
forward
to
your
leadership
and
big
things
for
the
rest
of
the
year,
so
we
are
gonna
move
on,
let's
see
where
we're
at
and
find
my
place.
B
L
B
L
L
L
So
I'm
going
to
talk
about
what
we
spent
to
date
of
our
cares
act
funding
and
what
what
we
have
remaining
and
then
I'll
I'll
give
you
an
update
on
the
new
the
new
appropriations
bill
next
slide
and
feel
free
to
stop
me
anytime
during
this
presentation.
It's
not
a
super
long
one.
L
So,
if
you
remember,
and
for
those
of
you
that
are
new,
we
were
very
fortunate
to
get
some
funding
support
from
the
federal
government
through
the
federal
transit
administration,
from
the
cares
act
that
was
specific
to
transit
and
we
got
approximately
8.6
million
dollars
for
the
whole
asheville
region
and
we
are
the
designated
recipient
for
the
whole
asheville
region
and
we
are
obviously
the
largest
transit
system
in
the
asheville
region.
L
So
our
portion
of
that
funding
was
the
largest
portion
of
all
of
the
different
sub-recipients
that
we
that
we
have
with
us,
and
so
our
portion
was
about
3.67
million
dollars
and
the
rest
of
the
region,
which
includes
buncombe,
county
henderson,
county
and
haywood
county
got
4.9
million
dollars,
and
that
was
split
amongst
them
and
the
formula
that's
used
to
split
those
funds
is
the
same
formula:
that's
used
for
transit
funds
for
urban
transit
funds,
so
it
was
it's
essentially
it's
based
on
population
next
slide.
Please.
L
So
that
I
can't
remember
exactly
when
that
bill
was
passed,
but
it
was
probably
like
april
or
may
or
so
of
last
year,
so
kind
of.
In
the
beginning,
few
months
of
the
pandemic,
we
had
already
started
spending
money
to
deal
with
the
pandemic
pretty
much
immediately
and
getting
getting
word
that
we're
getting.
Those
funds
was
definitely
definitely
something
that
we
needed
and
we
have
spent
quite
quite
a
bit
of
it.
L
So
far
on
various
things,
including
some
of
the
obvious
things
like
ppe,
which
we
continue
to
purchase,
cleaning
supplies,
signage
and
public
notices
and
public
information.
L
We
also
have
purchased
and
installed
on
the
majority
of
our
buses,
some
barrier
doors,
which
are
doors
that
are
that
serve
to
kind
of
encase
or
insulate.
If
you
will
the
the
drivers-
and
you
know
those
those
doors
have
been
installed,
and
there
really
were
not
intended
for
something
like
coved,
they
are
originally
designed
and
and
the
purpose
of
them
when
they
were
created
by
the
company
that
makes
them
is
really
just
for
like
safety
from
physical
assault,
but
it
does
provide
at
least
some
measure
of
additional
protection
from
covid19.
L
But
it
is,
it's
definitely
not
like
airtight,
so
we
we
have
been
struggling
for
the
last
several
months.
Well,
really,
the
last
year
trying
to
get
barrier
doors
installed
in
our
proterra
electric
buses.
We
have
five
forterra
electric
buses
and
we
ran
up
against
some
challenges
in
working
with
proterra
to
get
doors
designed
so
that
they
could
be
retrofitted
to
the
buses
we
have.
L
We
got
word
last
week
that
we
finally
have
gotten
the
design
information
from
portera
to
the
manufacturer
of
the
the
barrier
doors.
So
I'm
I'm
hopeful
that
now
we
have
that
in
place.
We
should
be
getting
those
I'll
say
soon,
but
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
it's
you
know
a
month
or
two
months
or
three
months.
Nothing!
L
Nothing
about
working
on
this
particular
piece
has
been
simple,
even
though
you
would
think
it
should
be
so
we
spent
145
000
to
outfit
all
the
rest
of
our
buses,
which
is
the
vast
majority
of
our
buses,
and
we
are
going
to
spend
probably
another
25
000
or
so
to
install
doors
in
the
five
proterra
buses.
L
The
biggest
thing
that
we
have
spent
spent
money
on
and
is
is
the
young
transportation
contract.
So
for
those
of
you
that
aren't
familiar
with
that,
we,
when
we
had
to
drop
the
capacity
of
the
buses
down
to
10
people,
including
the
driver,
we
obviously
started,
leaving
people
behind,
and
so
we've
looked
at
multiple
different
options
of.
How
could
we?
L
We
thought
we
thought.
Maybe
all
of
this
would
have
been
over
by
december,
and
so
our
our
contract
was
started
june
and
went
through
december,
and
it
was
for
960
000
or
920
000.
I
forget
which
and
obviously
that
ran
out,
and
so
we
had
to
extend
that
contract
by
another
560
000.
We
thought
that
might
get
us
through
the
pandemic.
L
Still
in
the
pandemic,
we
started
out
with
with
young
on
help
them
helping
us
support
multiple
routes,
help
they
also
were
helping
us
pick
up
routes
that
were
overcrowded
and
as
of
now,
we
have
them
just
working
on
four
routes
monday
through
saturday,
and
so
we
have
been
able
to
scale
them
back
slightly,
but
we
still
continue
to
spend
about
25
000
per
week
on
that
service,
which
is
a
is
a
lot
of
money.
L
L
So,
in
addition
to
the
young
contract,
we
have
also
been
using
the
karazhak
funds
to
provide
to
support
the
administrative
costs
and
time
for
staff
members
of
our
contractor.
Our
transit
contractor
ratp
dev,
who
has
to
take
leave
because
they
have
either
contract
with
cobid
or
a
they
have
to
caretake
for
someone
in
their
family
who
has,
or
especially
in
the
beginning
when
it
was
taking
10
plus
days
to
get
a
test
result.
L
L
We
continue
to
do
that.
We
still
have
transit
operators
who
have
who
are
getting
coveted.
I
think
right
now
we
have
four,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
funding
their
time
so
they're
not
having
to
take
their
own
sick
time
or
their
own
paid
time
off.
L
So
the
322
000
that
we
have
provided
to
ritp
dev
includes
that,
but
it
also
includes
in
the
very
end
of
december.
Some
of
you
might
heard
have
heard
that
the
city
wanted
to
do
a
one-time.
L
L
So
there
was
a
payment
that
was
made
right
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
for
the
transit
workers
it
for
all
of
the
front
line
employees
there,
which
included
the
drivers,
of
course,
customer
service,
rep,
dispatchers
and
supervisors
that
have
public
interaction.
B
L
It
was,
if
I
remember
correctly,
it
was
if
you
were
a
front
line.
L
If
you
were
part-time,
it
was
half
that
if
you
were
on
site,
but
not
necessarily
frontline,
so,
for
example,
like
a
mechanic
who's,
maybe
not
interacting
with
the
public
directly
quite
as
much
it
was,
I
believe,
750
and
then
half
of
that.
If
you
were
a
part-time
employee
and
the
the
it
was
similar,
similar
structure,
exact,
same
structure
for
city
employees
as
well.
B
I'm
glad
to
hear
there
was
some
headway
made
on
that.
However,
I'm
sure
I'm
sure
we
would
have
made
that
payment
more
if
we
could-
and
I
would
imagine
that
we
would
all
advocate
for
that
is-
is
there
another
one
of
these
bonuses
projected
on
horizon.
L
Not
at
this
time
we
would
need
to.
We
would
definitely
need
to
see
another
another
round
of
stimulus
funding,
to
help
support
that
which
I'm
crossing
my
fingers,
that
we
that
we
may
see,
but
I'm
not
holding
my
breath
either.
L
L
So
we
stopped
charging
fares
almost
immediately,
so
I
think
it
was
late
march
or
mid-march
and
our
fair
revenue,
you
know,
isn't
very
big
to
begin
with,
but
it's
between
50
and
60
000
a
month,
and
so
we,
if
we
assume
that
if
we
assume
that
we're
going
to
go
all
the
way
through
the
year,
sorry
that
should
actually
say
march
2022
this
to
the
end
of
this
current
fiscal
year,
then
we
would
see
close
to
550
000
of
fair
loss.
L
Additionally,
some
of
you
probably
remember
me
talking
about
how
our
state
legislature
last
year,
when
they
were
coming
up
with
the
budget
for
the
current
fiscal
year
for
the
state.
They
decided
that
since,
since
the
transit
agencies
across
the
state
got
federal,
cares
act,
revenue
or
federal
care
allocation
that
we
wouldn't
need
our
state
transit
funding
allocation,
and
so
we
receive
about
1.1
million
dollars
annually
from
the
state
and
they
took
that
away
from
us
this
year.
So
in
order
to
make
up
for
that
loss,
we
are
using
karzak
funding
for
that
as
well.
L
So
that
is
a
that
was
a
huge
chunk
out
of
what
we
were
given
and
it's
very
unfortunate
that
that
was
lost.
I'm
I'm
really
hopeful
that
they
won't
do
that
again
for
this
coming
fiscal
year,
but
there's
no
there's
no
telling
what
they're
going
to
do
for
this
coming
fiscal
year.
L
L
So,
just
over
the
next
few
months,
if
we,
if
we
continue
to
see
ritc,
does
staff
have
to
take
time
off
for
for
coved,
we
think
that
would
be
another,
probably
50
grand
or
so.
If
we
keep
seeing
that
happen,
which
I
fully
expect
we
will
I
don't.
I
don't
know
just
like
the
rest.
L
Is
everybody
on
this
call
when
we're
going
to
be
moving
into
future
phases
where
we
can
get
transit
transit
staff
vaccinated,
they
are,
but
they
are
considered
essential
staff,
frontline
staff
who
are
in
group
two,
I
think,
and
so
they're
they're
they're,
definitely
in
a
higher
group
than
than
like.
L
I
am,
for
example,
and
so
my
hope
is
that
that
happens
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
and
I'm
also
hopeful
that
we
might
be
able
to
coordinate
with
the
county
to
see
if
we
can
get
them
vaccinated
as
a
group
perhaps,
but
I
can't
I
can't
even
can't
even
get
any
communication
with
the
county
on
that
right
now,
because
I'm
sure
they
have
a
million
different
questions
coming
to
them
about
this
so
anyways
once
that
happens,
then
you
know.
Hopefully,
we
see
less
expense
related
to
administrative
leave.
L
We
also
might
be
able
to
reinstate
fares,
which
is
something
that
we'll
have
to
discuss,
because
you
know,
obviously,
the
fair
revenue
is
is
good
for
our
our
bottom
line,
but
it's
not
good
for
everybody
else's
bottom
line.
So
that's
something
that
we
need
to
think
about.
L
So
the
big,
the
big
thing
that
we're
struggling
with
right
now
is
that
we
still
have
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
left
of
service
contract
with
young,
and
if
we
spend
all
of
that,
then
we
will
have
essentially
spent
all
of
our
cares
act.
Money
which
means
that
we'll,
probably
as
a
as
a
transit
fund
and
whole
we'll
probably
go
into
the
red
because
we'll
continue
to
see
fair
loss
happening
and
and
expenses
we
we
were.
L
We
were
very
much
expecting
perhaps
stupidly,
expecting
that
we
were
going
to
get
additional
allotment
of
transit
funds
in
the
next
stimulus
bill
and
we
did
it.
So
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide,.
L
Please
so
the
second
bill
that
was
signed
a
few
weeks
ago
called
the
chrisa
it
it
allocated
about
14
billion
dollars
in
total
to
transit
agencies.
The
cares
act
allocated
about
25
billion
dollars,
so
we
were
expecting
another
another
allotment
using
this
the
same
formula
of
distribution,
just
a
smaller
amount,
since
it
was
you
know,
25
billion
with
cares
and
14
billion
with
chrissa,
so
we
were
expecting
to
maybe
get
another
million
dollars
and-
and
I
felt
very
hopeful
that
we
would
get
that
and
that
that
could
carry
us
through.
L
L
Then
you
weren't
going
to
get
any
more
this
with
this
new
bill,
and
so
the
cares
act
had
allocated
to
us
actually
about
86
and
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide
amy
about
in
our
region,
about
86
of
what
our
region
would
normally
get
or
88
in
normal
and
in
normal
years,
funding
for
our
transit
system.
L
So
because
of
that,
we
did
not
receive
any
funds
in
this
bill,
and
I
think
I
think
the
reason
that
they
did
what
did
that
was
because
the
cares
act.
The
way
that
everything
kind
of
shook
out
was
that
mid
and
small
transit
agencies,
which
which
were
definitely
not
one
of
the
big
guys
they
it
was
sort
of
weighted
more
towards
towards
us,
or
these
smaller
agencies
getting
more
money.
So
agencies,
like
you,
know
new
york,
san
francisco,
chicago
the
big,
the
big
cities
they
didn't
really
get.
L
I
guess
the
same
proportion
that
the
smaller
ones
did
and
so
to
correct
that
they
kind
of
flipped
it
so
that
they
would
get
the
bulk
of
this
next
round
and
and
the
ones
who
got
more
in
the
beginning
would
get
nothing.
L
So
I
I
now
what
I'm
hoping
for
and-
and
I'm
still
not
holding
my
breath
completely-
is
that
it
sounds
like
there's
still
talk
about
another
another
stimulus
bill
and-
and
I
have
read
that
the
proposal
right
now
is
for
20
billion
dollars
for
transit.
But
again
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
it's
going
to
be
divvied
up
the
same
as
they
did
in
either
the
cares
act
or
the
carissa
act.
L
So
what
were
what
we
need
to
do
now
is
we
are
we're
going
to
look
at
some
of
the
data,
see
how
many,
how
many
riders
versus
the?
How
many
writers
is
young,
helping
us
with
versus
the
total
ridership?
L
L
Can
we
shift
more
of
the
work
to
retp
dev,
which
is
fully
dependent
on
how
many
staff
they
have
you
know
at
working
or
out
with
coved,
so
there's
kind
of
a
lot
of
moving
parts,
but
over
the
next
couple
weeks
we're
going
to
be
taking
a
hard
look
at
what
we
have
and
look
at
our
overall
budget
and
see
if
we
have
any
savings
in
other
areas
that
can
make
up
for
not
having
any
more
cares
act
funds
and
keep
young
working,
because,
even
though
they're
I
mean
we're
still
leaving
people
behind
with
even
with
having
young
transportation
help
us
but
they're,
like
I
said,
they're
helping
carry
four
to
five
hundred
people
a
week,
which
is
significant
in
my
opinion,
and
I
don't
really
want
to
stop
that,
and
so
I'm
I'm
gonna
try
and
look
in
the
couch
sessions
and
see
what
we
can
do
and
not
have
to
cut
that
before.
B
So
drivers
at
this
point
are
starting
to
to
come
off
off
the
off
the
roll.
I've
noticed
that
a
lot
of
these
buses
are
are
driving
with
all
the
windows
completely
closed
up
is
I
mean
this
might
be
minimal,
but
is
there
a
way
we
can
at
least
open
windows
in
the
bus,
make
the
space
a
little
bit
safer
for
the
people
that
have
to
be
in
there
all
day.
D
B
L
B
L
You
know
not
thinking
about
any
the
situation
that
we're
in,
but
the
less
moving
part
the
less
that
breaks,
and
so
it's
it's
become
pretty
much
the
norm
to
not
have
windows
that
open
and
close
and
now
obviously
we
wish
we
did
but
yeah
so,
but
I
don't
I
don't
know
about
young's
buses.
I
can.
I
can
ask
them
about
that.
B
G
So
I
have
a
question
a
little
bit
of
context
to
my
question.
Is
I've
been
reading
that
there
are
some
city
departments
where
there
are
central
workers
who
are
saying
that
they're
not
going
to
want
to
get
vaccinated
when
the
vaccine
becomes
available?
And
I
was
wondering
if,
with
regards
to
the
bus
drivers
and
contracting
out
with
them,
if
there
may
be
some
sort
of
option
to
provide
incentives
for
those
workers
to
get
vaccinated
or
exploring
some
sort
of
creative
option
like
that.
L
L
If
we
could,
if
we
could
do
some
kind
of
incentive,
I
hate
I
hate
to
have
to
think
that
you
have
to
incentivize
someone
to
do
that.
But
it's
a
really
good
good
point
and-
and
I
think
I
mean
I
feel
pretty
strongly-
that
we
need
to
have
drivers
vaccinated
but
they're,
also
not
our
employees
so
we'll
see.
L
L
So
you
know
to
me:
they're
they're,
they're,
frontline,
essential
workers
now
as
well,
because
they're
helping
us
so
having
that
whole
that
whole
group,
which
could
be
as
many
as
150
people,
see
if
we
can
get
the
bulk
of
them
vaccinated
as
quickly
as
we
can.
But
it's
definitely
going
to
be
a
county
decision.
B
L
B
L
Know
about
okay!
I
can
look
into
that.
I
and
to
be
honest,
I
don't
know
how
the
city
is
is
going
to
deal
with
or
not.
The
fact
that
we
have
other
departments
like
anna
said
that
that
aren't
you
know
some
folks
are
not
interested
in
taking
it,
and
I
I
don't
know
that
the
city
has
a
response
to
that
and
if
they
will
at
all
it's
obviously
the
the
battle
between
personal
personal
rights
and
the
rights
of
of
the
community.
L
So
I
will
definitely
look
into
that
and
should
be
able
to
get
you
guys.
Some
information
that
I
could
probably
send
out
via
email
after
the
meeting.
L
Any
other
questions
it's
possible
that
we
might
have
to
make
some
decisions
prior
to
the
next
transit
committee
meeting
and
and
multimodal
commission
meeting,
and
so
we
will
keep
you
guys
updated
as
to
what
we
what
we
plan
to
do.
L
Another
thing:
sorry,
I
forgot
to
mention
another
thing
that
we're
looking
at
is:
should
we
should
we
increase
the
capacity
of
the
buses
again
back
up
to
13,
plus
a
driver
that
might
allow
us
to
serve
more
people
and
scale
young
back
and
stretch
that
those
dollars
even
farther?
So
those
are
all
the
variables
we're
looking
at
right
now.
D
A
Just
kind
of
curious
as
a
advisory
committee
or
what
you
know,
the
the
capacity
that
we
play
are
there
neat.
It
sounds
like
you're
juggling
service.
It
sounds
like
you're
juggling
code
response.
It
sounds
like
you're
juggling
budget
and
that
you're
gonna
have
to
make
some
decisions
at
the
intersection
of
all
those
pretty
soon
are
there.
Is
there
any
specific
feedback
advice,
communication
that
you
you
seek
from
us?
A
L
Thank
you
for
that.
That's
a
really
good
question.
It's
it's
sort
of
a
it's
sort
of
it's
mostly
just
the
update
and
let
you
guys
know
what
we're
what
we're
dealing
with.
I
will
say,
though,
that
if
you're,
if
any
of
you
are
interested
in
advocating
advocating
to
our
legislators
that
they
please
not
cut
our
state
transit
funding
again
next
year
and
if
they
can
even
restore
some
of
the
funding
they
cut
from
us
this
year,
that
would
that
would
solve
the
bulk
of
our
problems
right
now.
L
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
do
that.
We
we
have,
as
you
know,
as
staff,
have
done
that
and
it's
it's
really
disappointing
that
that
was
the
decision
that
they
made
and
I-
and
I
just
am
hoping
they
don't
make-
that
again
for
this
fy
22
budget.
B
So
I've
got
a
question
on
that
one,
this
one's
actually
for
kim
are.
Do
you
guys
have
a
formal
delegation
that
you
can
liaise
with
between
the
city
and
the
state
on
matters
like
this?
Thank
you
so
much
yeah.
K
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
for
asking.
As
I
was
hearing
the
conversation,
it
came
to
mind
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
do
is
reach
out
to
our
local
delegation
on
this
matter,
so
I
will
definitely
carry
that
forward
to
the
full
council
and
I
can
circle
back
with
the
chair,
which
I
have
for
my
notes.
We
have
a
new
chair.
K
Yes,
so
I'll
circle
back
with
dennis
that,
so
we
can
work
on
making
sure
we
have
good
communications
back
and
forth,
leading
up
to
what
we
can
do
next.
I
Thanks
jessica,
the
the
installations
that
we're
doing
in
the
buses
do
they
have
utility
beyond
coven
I
mean
are
we?
Can
we
use
these
to
keep
our
drivers
safe?
Is
this
something
that
the
investment
might
actually
extend
beyond
the
next
six
to
nine
months?.
L
Absolutely
yeah
they
we
had
been
looking
at
them
previous
to
coved
solely
for
trying
to
make
it
safer
for
against
like
physical
assault,
which
is
something
that
unfortunately
happens.
You
know
occasionally
in
the
transit
industry,
and
so
we,
the
the
drivers,
were
very
much
interested
in
in
them
prior
to
coved.
L
We
were
looking
at
them,
but
hadn't
figured
out
how
we
were
going
to
pay
for
it
yet,
and
so
you
know
we
pulled
the
trigger
when
we
when
covet
happened
and
we
got
cares,
act
funds.
That
was
one
of
the
first
things
we
started
to
work
on,
and
it
was
what
every
single
transit
agency
across
the
country
wanted
at
the
same
time
as
well,
and
so
it
it
took
several
months
to
get
them
in
place,
and
we,
like,
I
said
we
still
don't-
have
five
of
our
buses
equipped
yet.
L
But
the
the
primary
purpose
of
those
barrier
doors
is
for
protection
against
assault,
so
they
will
stay
there.
We
will
have
them
forever
and
we-
and
so
we
also
have
buses
that
we
we
have
about.
I
think
five
or
six
buses
on
order
right
now.
Some
of
them
are
arriving
later
this
spring,
some
of
them
are
arriving
next
year.
Every
new
bus
purchase
we
make
will
include
that
as
a
standard
from
now
from
now
on,.
I
Excellent,
so
we're
all
on
board
with
maintenance
that
we're
not
going
to
remove
anything
once
the
vaccination
happened.
Everybody
is
aware
that
we
we
really
like
these
things.
We
want
to
keep
them.
B
Thanks,
okay,
so
I
we're
going
to
joe
and
then
I
see
kim
has
got
her.
K
K
I
don't
have
a
formal
recommendation
from
this
group,
but
I
know
that
it's
in
the
last
retreat
goals
to
not
only
seek
additional
funding,
but
also
to
protect
the
funding
we
have
so
just
letting
you
all
know
that
I
don't
currently
have
a
formal
recommendation
to
carry
that
forward
to
council.
B
D
B
Make
a
motion
that
we
recommend,
as
the
multimodal
commission
to
the
city
of
asheville,
that
the
state
re-um
reality
its
original
funding
schedule
for
local
transportation
departments
and
I'm
trying
to
think
if
there's
anything
else
we
want
to
put
put
on
with
that.
B
A
L
I
was
just
gonna
say:
perhaps
it's
something
to
the
effect
of
reinstate
the
state,
transit
funding,
support
to
local
agencies
and
and
and
not
included
in
next
year,
an
fy
22
budget
as
well.
F
Green
state
and
maine,
you
know
so
we
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
to
decrease
it.
Shouldn't
decrease.
The
current
funding
is
for
additional
support.
It
wasn't
to
substitute
for
money
that
was
already
allocated,
so
that
was
an
inappropriate
use
of
their
budgetary
discretion
to
take
away
money.
That
was,
you
know
it's
kind
of
like
using
lottery
money
for
school
you're,
not
supposed
to
use
it
for
school
funding,
you're
supposed
to
use
it
for
additional
funding,
and
it's
it's
been
something
that's
been
appropriate
and
this
is
the
same
thing
so
right
so
I'll.
B
F
B
Out
a
little
bit
more
cohesive
than
I
did
the
first
time
I'll
try
try
again
I'm
reading
these
motions
right
off
the
fly
are
not
it's
not
my
my
favorite,
but
I
will
try
so
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
multimodal
commission
transportation
commission
for
the
city
of
actual
recommend
to
the
city
council
that
they
liaise
and
ask
what
the
local
delegation
to
the
state
that
that
funding
their
their
reinstatement
geez.
B
B
B
F
B
F
B
I
J
D
B
Okay,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
affirm
that
I
did
indeed
see
john
there.
You
go.
B
Okay,
well,
we've
got
you
captured
and
then
I'm
gonna
go
on
the
record
as
an
eye
as
well,
so
the
motion's
passed.
So
we
appreciate
that
kim.
If
you
work
on
that
for
us.
K
Yeah
right
now,
what
I
have
is
that
motion
to
recommend
a
council
that
they
asked
the
local
state
delegation
to
advocate
that
pre-covered
level,
transportation,
funding
for
local
agencies
being
reinstated,
preserved
and
maintained
so
jessica.
If
you
just
want
to.
Let
me
know
if
that
like
reflects
what
we
have.
L
Yeah,
did
you
have
the
word
transit
in
there
specifically
somewhere?
If
not
I'd
suggest.
K
B
Okay,
I
think
we're
ready
to
move
on.
E
What
I
have
one
quick
question,
michael
for
jessica,
if
you
have
a
few
more
minutes
jessica.
I
know
you
know
last
year
that
and
partially
well,
mostly
because
unca
wasn't
in
session
and
they
pulled
back
their
funding
for
the
route
that
runs
through
unca.
E
And
I
regret
that
I
haven't
really
paid
attention
to
whether
what
level
unca
is
operating
on,
even
though
I
live
down
the
street.
Is
that,
like
I
know
the
buses
is,
the
bus
is
running
it's
running
more
than
it
was
when
we
weren't
running
those
it
was
like
the
late
night
hours
and
stuff.
I'm
sure
that
has
been
part
of
the
discussion
to
pull
that
back
or
has
unca
reinstated
their
full
funding
like.
Where
is
that?
I
guess
it's
one.
It's
a
question
and
two.
E
L
D
L
Right
we
and-
and
we
did
I
think
in
october-
we
cut
that
late
night
service.
L
We
did
some
data
collection
and
worked
with
the
transit
committee
to
see
just
how
many
folks
were
using
it,
given
that
unca
had
essentially
shut
down,
and
it
was
very
very
little-
and
I
think
we
also
talked
with
the
multimodal
commission
about
it
back
then
too,
and
so
we
cut
the
service
based
on
recommendations
and
the
fact
that
unca
wasn't
going
to
continue
to
pay
for
it.
L
So
I
think
we
had
decided
to
cut
it
for
this
entire
well
for
their
fall
and
spring
semester,
and
if
they
do
come
back
in
session,
then
we
can
revisit
it.
It
was
only
like
a
20
000
saving,
but
we
did
that
in
october,
yeah.
E
L
Yeah
my
recollection,
as
we
said
through
the
spring
semester
and
we'll
keep
we'll
keep
tabs
with
them,
that
that
you
know
that's
another.
L
We
cut
that
expense,
but
on
the
revenue
side
you
know
they
were
a
partner
in
our
passport
program
which
provided
funding.
We
usually
got
about
forty
five
thousand
dollars
in
passport
partner
funding,
which
we
haven't
gotten
any
of
either
because
we're
not
charging
fare
so
we're
not
going
to
charge
our
partners
to
that
too.
So
that's
another
revenue
loss
that
that's
included
in
that
fair
loss
overall,
fair
loss.
So
it's
like
you,
take
one
step
forward
and
three
steps
back.
B
Jessica
would
would
you
guys
ever
consider
doing
like
a
pre-sale
on
annual
passes
for
for
the
bus
service.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
people
right
now,
myself
included
that
for
safety
concerns
and
then
also
like
not
to
preclude
other
people
from
riding
or
just
not
utilizing
the
bus
system,
and
I
know
that
myself,
my
wife
are
absolutely
going
to
be
bus
riders
as
soon
as
we
can.
I
I
know
right
now:
I'd
buy
a
an
annual
pass
today
that
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
use
until
let's
say
next
year,
the
or
the
following.
E
Well,
one
last
quick,
one
jessica,
I
think
I
did
hear
you
say
you
were
considering,
or
at
least
there
were
going
to
be
discussions
about
maybe
increasing
the
capacity
of
the
buses
back
up,
I'm
assuming
that
may
become
more
of
an
option,
as
at
least
drivers
get
vaccinated.
I
mean
obviously
there's
still
the
public,
that's
riding,
but
you
know,
obviously
you
know
a
little
bit
of
a
balance
there,
which
then
can
start
to
pull
back
young's.
L
E
A
very,
very
essential,
I
remember
the
last
time
I
didn't
see
it
in
in
this
pack
of
information,
but
I
remember
the
last
time
you
had
included
it
and
it
was
hundreds
of
people
and
it
was
just
like
this
yeah.
You
can't
get
rid
of
that
right
now.
L
Right
right,
no,
I
I
definitely
I
mean
getting
our
drivers
vaccinated,
getting
everybody
should
get
vaccinated,
but
I
really
am
hoping
that
we
can
get
that
soon-ish,
because
then
I
think
it
will
it'll
just
start
to
help
us
get
back
to
to
more
normal
operations.
L
And
you
know
as
when
we
move
into
later
phases
that
I
mean.
I
still
think
that
we
might
be
able
to
make
some
changes
and
move
to
a
higher
capacity.
L
But
I
don't
anticipate
I'm
not
seeing
a
whole
lot
of
change
in
any
of
the
numbers,
and
so
I'm
very
it's
very
much
a
balance
of
wanting
to
provide
service,
but
also
wanting
to
make
sure
that
people
are
safe
and
very
difficult
and
there's
no
perfect
answer
either.
Right,
like
the
capacity
numbers
on
the
bus,
are
pretty
arbitrary.
E
E
L
No,
and
to
be
perfectly
honest,
you
know
our
state
guidelines.
Are
you
know
that
you
should
be
so?
Let's
you
know
the
restaurants,
for
example,
they
were
30.
Now
it's
50.
If
you
were
to
apply
that
same
standard
to
the
bus
that
that
was
kind
of
what
we
were
going
by.
However,
the
it
still
required
six
foot
social
distancing
which,
even
with
10
people
on
a
bus,
it's
less
than
50
capacity,
but
you
can't
always
ensure
social
distancing.
L
F
Yeah,
if
a
family
unit
gets
on
together
too
or
anybody
who's
helping
a
place,
then
that
counts
as
one
that
is
three,
and
so
it's
it's
almost
impossible
to
really
regulate
that
strictly,
because
different
groups
of
people,
could
you
know
if
you
have
everybody
who's,
an
individual?
You
need
fewer
people
than
if
you
have
people
that
are
family
units
too.
So
it's
it's
an
almost
impossible.
L
Situation,
I
can
tell
you
that
yesterday
I
looked
at
charlotte,
raleigh,
chapel,
hill
and
durham
just
to
see
what
they're
doing
now
keep
in
mind.
They
all
have
bigger
buses
than
us.
They
probably
are
using
40-foot
buses
and
I
think
charlotte
even
has
maybe
larger
ones,
so
their
buses
are
larger.
Therefore,
more
capacity,
I
don't
know
exactly
how
many
people
they
can
seat
but
charlotte
limit.
Her
bus
is
20.
People,
raleigh's
is
16
people.
D
B
If
we
end
up
going
up
on
our
capacity,
I
would
really
really
strongly
hope
that
we
could
enforce
the
mass
mandate
that
now
applies
to
the
transit
system.
If
you
guys
recall
that
was
not,
there
was
not
in
the
cards
up
until
recently,
so
our
bus
drivers
couldn't
tell
anybody
to
get
off
the
bus
if
they
weren't
wearing
a
mask,
but
now
the
I
think,
one
of
the
most
recent
governor's
orders
that
is
included.
L
And
we
are,
we
are
enforcing
it
and
I
think
our
compliance
is
really
good.
Last
I've
heard
we've
only
had
issues
with
maybe
four
or
five
people
who
have
been
banned
for
15
days
because
of
refusal
to
wear
a
mask,
but
other
than
that
it's
been
high
compliance.
D
B
So,
let's
move
on
to
unfinished
business,
we
had
discussed
the
idea
of
changing
the
meeting
date
and
time
when
we
spoke,
but
we
wanted
to
wait
until
the
little
the
poll
had
went
out
to
kind
of
get
a
sense
of
what
everybody
could
and
couldn't
do,
because
everybody
had
a
chance
to
to
fill
in
like
when
they
could
can
and
couldn't
meet.
B
B
I
noticed
that
it
looked
like
the
the
best
couple
of
days
looking
at
tabs
one
week,
one
two
three
and
four,
I'm
really
zooming
in
on
week,
one
for
a
couple
of
reasons,
mostly
because
it
seems
to
be
the
the
week
that's
the
most
filled
in
in
particular,
I'm
looking
at
the
three
o'clock
and
the
three
to
five
o'clock
meeting
time.
That
would
be
either
on
wednesday
or
friday.
B
B
If
we
were
to
do
that
wednesday's
fine
with
me,
I
will
say
one
thing
about
week,
one
I
I
I
like
the
fact
that
that
puts
us
before
the
next
city
council
meeting
because
they
meet
on
the
second
tuesday
of
the
month,
although,
as
jessica
had
mentioned,
it's
not
necessarily
as
strategic
as
we
think,
because
we
might
make
a
motion
now,
but
unfortunately,
one
of
our
motions
and
recommendations,
I'm
sorry,
a
recommendation
that
we
make
today
might
not
make
it
to
city
council
meeting
until
40
to
60
days
later,
which
is
a
very
long
timeline.
B
But
nonetheless
I
think
we've
got
a
really
good
advocate.
That's
working
for
us
now
in
kim,
so
maybe
that
timeline
could
could
not
necessarily
be
40
to
60
days.
So
I
still
think
it's
a
good
idea
for
us
to
meet
and
have
our
meeting
before,
or
at
least
the
week
before.
B
F
Yeah,
michael,
I
have
to
apologize
too
because
I
I
didn't
realize
there
was
four
weeks
up
there
but
week
one
was
my
availability
for
the
whole
okay.
E
E
D
E
E
Thinking
like
the
city
being
able
to
like.
Certainly,
I
know
that
it
has
been
a
problem
when
we've
tried
to
do
planning
and
zoning
has
tried
to
have
some
mid-month
meetings
and
things
and
we've
had
to
juggle
dates
because
they
have
other
meetings
or
it
conflicts
with
council
and,
like
literally,
the
fact
that
it
can't
can't.
H
B
Multiples
well,
just
just
have
pnz
move
their
meeting
yeah.
Okay,
that's
a
that's
a
good
point.
What
are
everybody
else's
thoughts
if,
if
not
wednesday,
I
still
think
friday
is
that
the
next
best
day
at
least
what's
far,
is
what's
filled
in,
but
again
we
have
that
that
friday
dilemma
of
people
taking
three
days.
I
Hey
michael
dennis
here,
I
I
I.
C
I
Of
agree
with
you
about
fridays,
I
feel
as
though
you
know,
I'm
not
as
attentive
as
I
probably
could
be
most
fridays
at
work.
So
I'm
sticking
to
that
wednesday
and
if
there's
a
way
that
maybe
what
we
could
do,
even
though
there
is
some
kind
of
intrinsic
value
in
having
our
meeting
right
before.
Maybe
we
go
to
the
third
week,
so
we
can
get
that
input
from
city
council.
I
Anything
that's
coming
down,
so
we
can
deal
with
it
pretty
quickly
and
then
give
the
staff
a
little
bit
more
time
to
turn
that
stuff
around.
So
they
might
have
two
weeks
or
three
weeks
to
go
ahead
and
bring
it
back
in.
So
my
thought
is
maybe
going
with
that
wednesday
afternoon
and
the
third
week
of
the
month.
B
Okay,
what's
which
time
slot
were
you?
Were
you
looking
at
their.
I
The
three
to
five-
I
I
did
fill
them
all
out,
but
to
be
completely
honest,
they're
all
exactly
the
same
week
to
week.
It
doesn't
really
matter
to
me
it's
just
how
my
week
stack
up
is
very
similar
week
to
week.
G
B
I
don't
really
want
a
friday
meeting
and
to
dennis's
point
and
honestly,
I
would
imagine
that
the
staff
would
would
like
the
additional
time
too.
If
we
were
to
do
that
that
second
one
I
had
given,
then
what
three
four
weeks
before
the
next
one
or
is
no
there'd,
be
that
that'd
be
week
out
that'd
be
the
same
week,
so
there'd
be
four
weeks
between
then
and
the
next
yeah.
I
don't
know
it's
kind
of
convoluted,
because
that
calculates
what
a
couple
of
months
I
think
right,
yeah.
L
I
think
I
think,
for
staff
you
know
whatever
you
guys
like
whatever
week
of
the
month
or
day
of
the
month
is
fine.
I
think
you
know
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
wanted
to
talk
about.
This
was
whether
having
it
from
you
know,
during
normal
business
hours
is
conducive
to
getting
public
input,
and
so
I
think
it's
worth
having
a
conversation
about
that.
L
You
know
from
a
staff
perspective
we
can
accommodate
that,
which
is
why
we
put
the
you
know
a
five
to
seven
pm
option
on
there
and
obviously
there's
pros
and
cons
to
that
for
everybody.
But
I
think
it's
worth
talking
about
whether
you
guys
think
it's
a
good
idea.
B
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
be
inclusive,
but
I
think
we
have
some
data
at
our
disposal
at
this
point
at
every
one
of
our
virtual
meetings
that
we've
had
we've
had
the
opportunity
for
people
to
to
leave
comments
and
feedback
for
public
record,
and
I
think
we've
had
one
person
do
that
so
far.
That
was
in
our
last
meeting
from
claudia.
B
So
you
know
the
virtual.
The
virtual
meetings
have
opened
up
a
little
bit
more
ability
for
people
to
to
voice
their
opinions,
and
I
think
the
fact
that
that
hasn't
really
happened.
I
would
probably
defer
to
the
to
the
to
the
group
as
far
as
what
they
want
at
this
point,
but
that's.
D
E
D
E
Well,
when
they
were
in
person
meetings
we
had.
Typically,
there
were
people
there
yeah
commenting
period,
and
I
know
I
think
going
back.
It
seems
like
20
end
of
2019.
E
The
whole
meeting
time
came
up
at
the
retreat
last
year
and
maybe
even
gone
back
to
before
then,
but
yeah.
That
was
a
big,
a
big
part
of
it
was.
How
do
we
make
it
so
that
it's
either
better
for
the
community
to
either
come
or
make
comments,
or
that
it
allows
people
who
may
want
to
be
part
of
the
the
committee?
E
L
But
thank
you
for
bringing
me
the
that
point
up
joe
about
trying
to
accommodate
bringing
on
just
you
know
new
committee,
commission
members,
that's
something
that
we
struggle
with
is
being
more
inclusive
in
terms
of
recruiting
our
our
committee
and
commission
members
and
whether
or
not
moving
the
time
to
five
to
seven
would
help
that.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
the
city's
ever
done,
that
with
a
committee
or
commission
or
board,
we
could
also
just
wait
until
we
could
wait
until
we
get
back
to
quote-unquote
normal
whatever.
That
is.
E
E
L
F
Yeah
really
looking
at
the
schedule,
it
seems
like
the
time
we're
at
now
is
kind
of
the
best
time
and
in
some
ways
that's
a
self-fulfilling
prophecy,
because
all
of
us
could
meet
that
time
in
the
first
place,
but
on
the
commission,
but
for
this
group
right
now
it
seems
like
that's.
It
might
still
just
be
the
best
time.
I
Yeah,
I
kind
of
agree
with
you
randy.
I
feel
like
maybe
the
idea
that
maybe
just
gonna
just
said
we're
become
tablets
for
a
couple
of
months,
so
we
get
back
in
person
and
then
revisit
it
to
see,
because
I
think
we
do
have
to
juggle
the
the
if,
if
we
are
being
in
off
hours,
I'm
I
don't
really.
I
You
know
my
my
work
day
is
typically
kind
of
eight
to
five,
and
so
if
there
was
a
meeting
at
five,
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
complete
my
work
day
and
get
to
city
hall
for
a
meeting.
So
I
don't
know
that
you're
gaining
all
that
much
by
moving
five
to
seven.
Maybe
it's
like
a
six
to
eight
or
something
like
that,
but
then
we're
involving
staff
time
after
hours.
You
know
is
that
something
we
want
to
do
so
I
think
it's
kind
of
juggling
those
those
two
pieces.
L
Well,
then,
I
would
suggest,
if
you
guys
want
to
keep
the
same
time
but
switch
the
week
that
we
could
start
there
and
then,
as
we
move
ahead
with
covid
and
how
the
city,
if
you
know
I
I'm
hopeful
that
we
get
back
to
you
in
person,
but
maintain
the
ability
for
folks
to
be
able
to
participate
online
as
well.
It
could
be
some
kind
of
hybrid
situation,
I'm
hoping
that
that's
what
we
end
up
with.
D
B
I
I
also
hope
that
we
get
to
keep
some
of
this
virtual,
because
I
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
before
covert
happened
was
to
have
our
our
meetings
put
out
on
video
and
that
seemed
to
be
an
insurmountable
problem
which
we
were
never
able
to
fix.
But
now
we
have
it
and
it's
been
really
nice
to
be
able
to
go
back
and
and
look
at
that
video
and
figure
out.
You
know
exactly
what
was
said,
because
sometimes
our
minutes
are
not
always
available
immediately.
D
B
A
motion,
you
think,
I
don't
feel
like
we
do,
do
it
or
just
what
do
you
think.
L
F
Okay,
I
think
at
this
point
the
the
second
and
the
fourth
week
seem
to
be
equally
as
good
and
since
we're
already
the
fourth
one,
it's
best
to
maintain
what
we
have,
because
if
there
is
some
stability
to
the
date,
then
that
might
help
in
terms
of
if
people
wanted
to
come
to
the
commission
as
well.
So
this
is
not
really
doesn't
seem
like
much
of
an
advantage
to
move
the
second
week.
Keeping
it
as
is
seems
to
be
at
least
for
now.
B
Okay,
well,
if
we're
all
good
on
that,
then
we'll
we'll
move
on,
but
I'm
glad
we
had
an
opportunity
to
at
least
talk
to
you.
That
sounds
like
we'll
get
to
talk
about
it,
some
more
as
things
progress.
B
So
the
next
one
on
the
agenda
here
for
unfinished
business
is
an
update
on
the
citywide
speed
limit
discussion
that
we've
we've
had
a
couple
times
yesterday,
update
on
that.
L
Thank
you
this.
This
is
kind
of
a
quick
update,
not
a
whole
lot
of
new
information
to
share
other
than
we
have
met
internally,
particularly
with
our
legal
staff
to
to
see
whether
or
not
it
appears
that
we
would
be
able
to
have
a
city
wide
speed
limit
and
in
it,
and
all
signs
are
pointing
to
yes
and
when
I
say
city-wide
I
I
basically
mean
you
know
changing
the
statutory
speed
limit,
which
is
currently
35
miles
per
hour
for
all
jurisdictions
in
the
state.
L
The
proposal
is
to
change
it
to
25
miles
per
hour.
Now
that
does
not
mean
that
so
a
statutory
speed
limit
is
basically
like
when
you
see
the
sign
coming
into
town.
That
says,
unless
otherwise
posted
the
speed
limit
is
35
miles
per
hour,
so
it
doesn't
change
the
limits
on
on
like
state
routes
or
streets
that
are
posted
with
a
different
speed
limit.
It's
basically
setting
the
default
speed
limit
to
25
is
the
proposal,
so
it
appears
that
we
have
the
legal
ability
to
do
that.
L
What
we,
what
we
next
need
to,
do
and
have
not,
unfortunately,
had
a
chance
to
to
do
yet.
Is
speak
with
ncdot
the
state
department
of
transportation
just
to
confirm
that
we
can
and
that
they
have
no
issues
with
it
again,
we
wouldn't
be
proposing
to
change
speed
limits
on
state
routes,
like
you
know,
tunnel,
road
and
hendersonville,
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
L
It's
by
and
large,
it's
mostly
local
city
streets
and
we
we
have,
in
the
past,
been
changing
speed
limits
on
a
lot
of
the
local
residential
streets
down
to
25
miles
per
hour,
and
every
time
we
do
that
we
have
to
go
to
council
and
council
has
to
pass
an
ordinance
saying
that
the
street
speed
limit
is
now
25
on
x,
y
and
z
street.
L
So
if
we
were
able
to
do
kind
of
this
blanket
default
20
of
25
miles
per
hour,
I
I
think
we'd
actually
save
staff
time,
because
then
we
wouldn't
have
to
go
to
city
council
pretty
much
every
other
month
to
to
change
that.
L
The
other
part
that
we
have
to
do
that
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
do
quite
yet
is
is
work
with
apd
and
just
make
sure
that
that
they
have
no
issues,
or
you
know,
major
red
flags
that
we're
not
aware
of
you
know
it
the
in
theory.
L
It
could
either
result
in
less
people
speeding
or
it
could
result
in
more
people.
Speeding
and
more
people
complaining
about
speeding
if
you're,
lowering
lowering
speed
limits,
which
then
could
translate
into
more
calls
to
apv
it's
kind
of
that's
kind
of
an
unknown
right.
So
we
want
to
touch
these
with
them
and
see.
You
know
hear
what
their
thoughts
are
on
it
as
well.
D
I
Jessica
yeah,
so
I
think
that
makes
complete
sense.
I
feel,
like
the
you
know,
streamlining
some
of
this
stuff,
I
think,
is
a
great
path
forward.
I
I
felt
like
when
we
were
in
a
couple
of
months
ago,
in
this
meeting,
we
were
talking
about
some
of
the
other
streets
that
might
be
state
roads,
so
swannano
river,
road,
biltmore,
ave
mcdowell,
those
those
types
of
things.
So
in
this
kind
of
step,
one
those
are
not
going
to
be
included-
is
that
right.
L
Correct-
and
you
know
we
don't
have
any
jurisdiction
over
those
streets.
So
if
we
wanted
to
explore
a
lower
speed
limit
on
state
routes
than
it
would
have
to
be
with
ncdot
and
approved
by
ncdot
and
then
actually
approved
by
the
state
transportation
board,
so
it's
a
little
bit
more
complex,
but
it's
it
has
been
done
before.
For
example,
we've
been
talking
with
dot
about,
and
actually
we
may
have
already
done
it
lowering
the
speed
limit
on
amboy,
so
it
is
possible,
but
right
now
I
think
the
emphasis
is
on
our
local.
L
What
we
have
control
over,
which
is
the
bulk
of
the
miles,
but
but
obviously
the
the
streets
that
we
see
the
most
crashes
on
are
typically
state
routes,
because
those
are
the
busier
higher
speed
routes.
So
this
is
not
not
covering
all
of
that.
I
Yeah
and
to
that
point
I
think,
because
the
rub
that
I
think
we're
heading
toward
is
as
we
promote
and
see
an
increase
in
bike
and
pet
activity,
though
these
folks
that
are
new,
are
using
it
for
transportation
or
commuting,
and
so
they're
going
to
be
commuting
on
these
minor
and
major
arterials
and
those
are
the
streets
where
we
have
that
big.
That
big
rub
where
we
have
a
sidewalk
right
next
to
a
40
mile,
an
hour
path,
a
road,
and
so
that's
where
that
kind
of
fear
comes
in.
I
So
you
know.
I
think
this
is
a
great
first
step,
but
I
really
would
like
to
see
if
we
can-
maybe
maybe
what
it
is.
We
just
make
a
list
of
them.
Here's
all
the
ones
that
we
really
feel
like
we're,
seeing
a
lot
more
folks
on.
It's
really
scary,
when
you're
walking
in
a
car
you
know
is
hitting
the
curb
when
they're
driving
by
and
that
kind
of
thing.
I
And
so
maybe
what
we
can
do
is
make
a
list
and
then
submit
that
through
the
state-
and
it
sounds
like
it's
a
you
know
an
arduous
process,
but
if
we
could
do
it
as
a
group,
we
might
be
able
to
get
some
efficiency
in
our
process.
I
L
If
you
don't
mind,
if
I
could
think
about
that
a
little
bit,
the
thing
that
the
thing
that
comes
into
mind
at
this
moment
is
that
there
are
a
couple
of
corridor
studies
going
on
right
now
that
the
mpo,
the
metropolitan
planning
organization
initiated
and
is
working
with
the
city
and
the
state
and
actually
henderson
county
on
and
those
two
quarter.
Studies
are
tunnel,
road
and
hendersonville
road
and
I
believe
that
that
they
are
looking
at.
L
You
know
it's
very
it's
a
very
high
level
corridor
study,
so
it
doesn't
include
design
or
anything
but
they're,
looking
at
speed
limits
in
general,
as
as
a
component
of
overall
safety
right.
So
I
think
that
in
some
ways
we
might
be
able
to
make
some
headway
sooner
through
those
corridor.
L
Studies
like
embed
recommendations
into
those
studies
that
give
us
more
support
and
then
and
also
I
forgot-
we
also
were
doing
a
corridor
study
for
biltmore
mcdowell,
and
I
know
that's
one
of
the
things
that's
being
talked
about
in
that
one
and
built
more.
You
know
down
through
the
hospital
area,
like
that's.
That's
a
in
my
opinion,
a
place
that
we
really
should
look
at
a
lower
speed
limit,
anyways
yeah.
L
I
think
that's
it
for
me.
If
you,
if
you
want
michael,
I
can
just
go
straight
into
transit
and
and
then
I
do
have
one
staff
update,
but
that's
after
the
other
committee
update.
H
Yeah
this
guy,
I
was
just
wondering
so,
if
you
change
it
from
35
to
25,
do
you
know
how
many
streets
that
actually
affects,
because
it's
only
the
ones
where
it's
not
posted,
otherwise?
Is
it?
Are
there
any
streets
that
aren't
posted.
L
D
A
So,
as
a
new
person
to
the
conversation,
I'm
I'll
be
eager
to
read
back
on
minutes
of,
like
where
some
of
the
y
is
for
this
surfacing
for
the
group.
But
I
love
that
we're
having
the
conversation
and
just
a
few
kind
of
points,
one
I
feel
like
I
read
david,
that
lowering
it
even
further
might
have
better
impact
than
25
that
get
it
as
low
towards
maybe
even
20,
especially
in
residential.
A
So
that
would
be
something
to
consider
or
just
dust
off
what
the
research
says,
because
I'm
not
fresh
on
it,
but
I
feel,
like
I've
heard
lower.
The
other
thought
is
that
I
feel
like
if
safety
is
a
major
part
of
the
goal-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
have
a
goal
statement
for
why
we're
why
we're
having
this
conversation.
But
I
would
love
to
read
what
our
collective
goal
statement
is,
or
we
should,
or
we
could
write
it.
A
I
assume
safety's
part
of
it
and
for
my
understanding
that
speed
limits
and
enforcement
are
like
a
really
strong
low-hanging,
fruit,
stepping
stone
to
actually
having
safer
places
and
that
design
like
the
corridor
studies.
That
jessica
is
talking
about
is
really
where
we're
gonna
get
the
like
transformative
leverage
to
have
a
safe
experience
and
less
deaths
and
less
accidents,
and
things
of
that
nature
so
dennis,
as
you
were
talking
about
like
getting
that
list
and
us
looking
at
what
those
streets
are
and
then
jessica,
you're
bringing
up
like
where
the
corridor
studies
are.
A
I
think
that
there's
like
an
overlay
of
advocacy
and
strategy,
we
could
apply
where
it's
like
okay
step,
one
lower
the
speed
limit,
and
these
are
corridors
and
then,
while
before
we
even
start
that
have
the
conversation
of
like
what
step
two
and
where
does
that
fit
into
other
planning
studies?
Because
again,
if
safety
is
our
goal
statement,
I
think
it
is
low
hanging
fruit.
We
should
totally
tackle
it
and
we
should
use
the
win
of
it,
because
it
also
sounds
kind
of
like
relatively
easy
use.
F
And
now
you
just
real
quick,
so
this
came
from
the
mike
pet
task
force
safety.
Absolutely
at
the
essence
of
this
speed.
Differentials
are
huge
in
terms
of
impact
and
severity
of
crashes,
and
so,
if
you're
hit
by
a
if
you're,
on
a
bicycle,
going
15
miles
an
hour
hit
by
cargo
and
35,
you
have
a
much
higher
incidence
of
severe
injury
or
death
than
you
do
if
it's
25.
the
same
thing
from
a
pedestrian,
a
pedestrian's
crossing
a
street
and
gets
hit
by
a
car
at
25,
and
it's
certainly
20
and
15.
F
It's
even
better.
Yet
too
the
difference
between
25
and
35.
It's
like
a
70
increase
in
the
option
for
the
opportunity
first
fatalities.
So
safety
is
at
the
heart
of
this
recommendation
for
sure,
but
I
think
you're
right
in
terms
of
having
a
bigger
term
vision.
We
don't
necessarily
have
the
10
point
system
set
up
and
how
we're
going
to
achieve
division,
zero,
which
the
city
and
state
both
both
fully
committed
to.
But
yet
the
city
doesn't
have
a
vision,
zero
task
force,
which
they
also
admitted
to
having
too.
L
E
Well,
there
kind
of
was,
I
know
when
vadilla
was
in
transportation.
He
was
trying
to
do
vision,
zero
thing,
but
and
but
it
also
too
gets
back
to
the
is
apd
gonna
enforce
it.
Are
we
going
to
have
enforcement,
which
then
I'm
going
to
bring
it
up
again,
because
I'm
just
going
to
keep
hammering
it
speed,
camera
speed,
cameras.
F
Right
and
does
that
point
joe
too,
I
mean
we
also
as
a
multi-modal
transportation.
Commission
have
a
recommendation
to
city
councils
to
use
automated
speed
enforcement
devices,
and
so
I
think,
after
jessica
gets
through
with
the
speed
limit
thing
right.
That's
the
next
thing
on
your
list
is
to
see
how
we
can
do
that
and
that's
going
to
take
some
legislation,
action
and
so
we'll
have
to
have
some
advocacy
on
the
city's
part
to
have
our
state
legislators
get
a
provision
passed
in
the
at
the
state
level
make
that
happen.
F
E
Yeah
yeah,
for
sure
I
mean
I
was
even
when
maggie
was
talking
about
you
know.
What's
the
next
step,
I
mean
that
was
kind
of
one
of
the
things
that
popped
up,
and
but
it
is
certainly
one
knowing
that
we
have
a
former
mmtc
transit
committee
person
on
council
now
and
kim
rooney,
and
it
could
easily
be
another
one
of
the
motions
like
we
just
made
earlier
of
you
know
kim
putting
before
council
to
work
with
the
local
legislatures.
To
then
help
us
get
to
those
steps
that
we
need
to
at
the
state
legislation.
F
D
F
H
Can
we
redesign
the
city's
standard
street
drawing
so
that
they're
designed
for
25
instead
of
35,
because
I
feel
like
if
people
feel
comfortable
driving,
40
they're
still
going
to
drive
40,
even
though
the
speed
limit's
lower
you.
J
B
Yeah,
just
at
some
point
can
we
have
a
little
bit
longer
dialogue.
I
know
we're
running
in
on
time,
but
I'm
curious
to
know
what
happened
in
the
the
rad
tip.
It's
a
25
through
there,
but
it's
a
straight
shot.
There
was
almost.
It
seems
like
zero
thought
given
to
to
engineering
slower
speeds
through
there
other
than
the
sign
there'd,
be
nothing
to
tell
you
that
that's
a
slow
stream.
B
I'm
saying
from
like
amboy
road,
just
all
the
way
down
the
the
whole
length
where
you
know
the
vehicular
traffic
traffic,
it's
it's
just
straight
and
no
no
speed
bumps!
No,
no
bump
outs.
No,
no
nothing!
And
for
that
to
be
like
the
showcase
of
what
you
know
what's
good,
it
seemed
like
that.
We
really
missed
an
opportunity
on
that
and
you
know
like
we
had.
We
probably
had
an
opportunity
as
a
commission
to
discuss
that
too,
but
I
think
it's
worth
reflecting
on.
L
Yeah,
I
I
I
don't
know
I
can.
I
can
add
that
to
a
possible
future
agenda
item.
L
Okay,
any
any
other
questions.
Would
you
like
me
to
go
into
transit,
real
quick?
I
mean
I
pretty
much
gave
you
guys
the
main
transit
update,
there's
a
memo
enclosed
in
your
agenda.
That's
from
our
transit
planning
manager,
eunice
lovey.
That
gives
some
updates
about
other
other
projects
that
we're
working
on.
L
There's
some
information
in
there
about
our
mask
distribution
statistics
and
where
we're
at
with
the
art
station
project
we're
about
to
install
the
the
public
art
piece
of
that
should
be
going
in
in
the
next
I'm
going
to
say
month
or
so,
and
we're
also
working
on
the
digital
signage
installation
for
the
art
station.
L
L
So
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
stuff
in
transit
other
than
just
trying
to
to
deal
with
with
coved
we're
still
working
on
lots
of
other
pieces
as
well,
and-
and
I
do
expect
to
bring
to
you
guys-
probably
in
march-
maybe
april,
where
we're
at
with
our
maintenance
garage
feasibility
study.
B
I
just
want
to
highlight
something
on
here
that
I
think
deserves
a
little
bit
of
attention
anytime.
This
this
happens.
I
think
it's
important
to
elevate
it.
The
french
bread
metropolitan
the
npo
had
done
their
regional
transit
feasibility
study
and
I've
in
particular,
highlighted
this
part
here,
but
it
says
members
of
the
public
that
attended
the
virtual
meeting
shared
that
they
would
like
to
see
more
frequent
local
service,
as
well
as
extended
an
extended
geographic
area,
to
ensure
more
connections
among
transit
service
offered
in
the
region.
B
I
D
I
L
I
I
I
F
F
As
you
say,
you
know,
because
we
can't
have
capacity
issues,
so
it
just
makes
it
like,
like
me,
like,
with
michael
and
not
taking
the
bus
right
now
either
just
because
of
safety
concerns,
but
you
know
there's
nothing
worse
than
showing
up
for
a
bus
that
comes
once
an
hour
and
and
it
can't
get
there
early
unless
early,
and
yet
we
have
a
lot
of
routes
that
have
a
lot
of
buses
coming
early.
That
just
seems,
like
that's
an
avoidable
situation.
L
L
I
know
one
thing
we
are
having
a
problem
with,
but
it
I
don't
know
if
it's
been
fixed
or
not
is
that
it
was.
The
system
was
counting
arriving
early
to
the
transit
station
as
early,
which
is
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing
to
write
to
arrive
at
the
transit
station
early,
but
I
don't
think
that
accounts
for
the
majority
of
these
percentages.
So
let
me
get
some
information
on
that
as
well.
E
D
E
Great
but
of
course,
then
it
was
kind
of
covety
time,
and
that
would
be
my
only
guess
is
maybe
there's
just
there's
more
traffic
now
than
there
was
say
back
in
june,
but
I'm
wondering
if
that's
part
of
the
earliness
is
left
still
slightly
less
traffic,
plus
less,
maybe
less
rider.
So
like
some
of
the
buses
just
aren't
stopping
at
stops.
They
normally
would
so
you
figure,
there's
that
you
know
if
you're,
not
stopping
at
a
stop,
say
two
or
three
stops
that
normally
you
would
have
you're
gonna
be
five
minutes
early.
E
L
Yeah
that
I
mean
we
we're
supposed
to
have
places
where
they
can
quote
unquote,
lay
down
as
what
they
call
it,
and
and
just
to
make
sure
that
they're
not
getting
to
that
next
time.
Point
too
early
but
yeah
we
shouldn't,
have
you
know
20
19
arrival
early
arrival.
So
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
or
at
least
I
need
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
what
does
what's
embedded
in
that
and
if
there
are
valid
reasons
or
invalid
reasons,
for
it.
B
B
D
F
Just
just
real
quick
with
it.
Turning
in,
I
just
want
to
commend
jessica.
I
had
an
incident
with
the
bus
and
I
I
emailed
jessica
about
it
immediately
and
she
responded
immediately
and
then
young
bus
service
responded
as
well
immediately,
so
that
was
a
good
response
over
a
potentially
hazardous
situation.
So
I
appreciate
that
the
response
that
we
have-
I
didn't
hear
the
resolutions.
I
think,
if
they're
unionized
you're
not
going
to
hear
it
but
jessica
and
the
staff
responded
really
well
to
that
kind
of
thing.
E
I
was
going
to
make
one
other
comment
jessica
I
was.
I
did
see
the
the
piece
in
that
report
from
eunice
about
the
transit.
Excuse
me
the
maintenance
garage.
I
was
kind
of
encouraged
that
that
was
still
moving
forward,
even
though
I
know
it's
an
expense
that
you're
probably
like
boy,
if
we
could
cut
that,
that
might
be,
but
it's
also
one
of
those
things.
I
know
that
needs
to
happen
so
yeah.
L
Yeah
we
we're
in
we're
in
the
phase
right
now
that
we're
looking
at
you
know
well
part.
The
first
part
was
figuring
out
how
much
space
we
probably
made
like
a
range
and
then
now
we're
looking
at
parcels
that
fit
that
range,
which
is
helpful,
but
also
not
super
helpful,
because
we
could
find
a
personal
that
we
think
would
be
perfect
and
it's
not
available.
You
know.
L
So
it's
somewhat
of
a
futile
exercise
to
get
really
detailed
about
specific
personals,
but
part
of
what
we're
looking
at
is
like
the
balance
between
the
cost
of
being
farther
in
or
closer
in
versus
farther
out
and
land
costs.
And
such
you
know
what
are
those
tipping
points,
so
we
should
have
some
good
information
a
couple
months.
We
should
be
wrapping
that
up.
D
Okay,
are
we
good
to
move
on
yeah,
okay,.
B
Do
we
have
any
committee
reports?
Does
anybody
have
any
any
committee
reports.
F
Light
agenda,
but
the
great
thing
was
that
ncdot
we
have
a
community
member
that
it
works
for
ncdot,
and
so
he
gave
us
a
lot
of
information,
which
is
something
that
we
don't
always
get.
So
the
funding
is
starting
to
loosen
up
and
jessica
knows
more
about
this
than
I
do.
But
it
looks
up
from
the
state
again,
which
basically
is
stopped
completely.
Unfortunately,
it's
not
necessarily
on
a
real,
even
basis
so,
for
example,
the
mills
gap
project.
F
F
So
some
of
that
conversation
is
actually
making
it
through
to
the
staff
level
there,
which
is
great,
and
then
we
have
a
lot
of
discussion
too
about
the
ncdot's
portion
of
amboy,
the
bridge
that
at
the
end
of
the
red
tip
project
and
the
connectivity
issues
that
are
happening
there
too,
and
so
that's
not
an
easy
fix
at
all,
because
bridges
are
done
differently
than
everything
else,
its
own
department,
and
I
think
that
the
the
funding
for
that
is.
F
The
project
is
scheduled
for
2029
and
so
we're
looking
at
again
how
to
maybe
move
that
up
on
the
list
of
priorities
for
ncdot
and
again,
some
of
that
attention
that's
being
brought
to
it.
Especially
now
the
rent
has
been
completed
and
now
there's
this
big
missing
link
and
if
we're
gonna
have
to
wait
eight
years
to
have
something
done
about
that
link.
F
It's
just
way
too
far,
and
so
they're
exploring
more
opportunities
in
terms
of
trying
to
get
that
fixed
and
as
well
as
the
traffic
light
timing
there
and
all
sorts
of
other
things
too.
So
a
lot
of
times
things
don't
happen
right
away.
But
if
there's
enough
noise
being
made
about
things
it
you
know,
ncdot
seems
like
an
impossible
not
to
crack
sometimes,
but
it
does
have
some
impact.
G
Yeah
is
it
appropriate
to
just
chime
in
about
that
amboy
road
like
peace,
really
quick?
As
far
as
the
bridge
is
concerned,
I
know
that's
really
far
out,
but
even
some
turning
when
you
turn
off
of
was
it
lyman
at
that
point
onto
amboy,
even
some
tiny
bit
of
connectivity
between
the
new
greenway
and
cycle
track
and
the
bridge,
I
think,
would
help
immensely.
G
I
think
that
there's
room
there
to
do
it,
even
if
it's
some
sort
of
sidewalk
something
because
there
is
a
gap
there,
where
yeah,
there's
just
sort
of
there's
nothing
connecting
it
so
even
having
something
connecting
to
the
bridge
for
pedestrians
would
be
great.
F
It's
a
huge
issue,
and
especially
the
sidewalk
across
the
bridge,
isn't
even
wide
enough
to
accommodate
a
wheelchair,
for
example.
So
so
then
yeah
they
do
this.
Human
and
people
are
complaining
about
it,
a
lot
in
ways
that
are
taking
some
notice
but
yeah
it's.
We
should
keep
that
on
the
forefront
of
our
attention,
because
that's
what
is
moving
things
a
little
bit
more,
giving
things
a
sense
of
urgency
that
wasn't
there
before
so,
hopefully
that
will
happen.
So
thank
you
for
that.
J
I'd
like
to
chime
in
on
two
things:
ncdot
does
pay
attention
to
noise.
I've
seen
it
happen.
I've
worked
a
lot
with
d.o.t
and
yeah
like
the
more
projects.
The
more
like,
I
know,
there's
a
project
in
wilmington
that
the
people
talked
a
lot
about
and
so
that
project
kind
of
got
pushed
up
and
then
the
second
thing
I
kind
of
had
a
question
for
jessica.
I
know
ncdot
kind
of
likes
to
split
in
a
weird
way.
L
I
guess
maybe
it's
been
about
a
year
now
and
if
the
city
includes
something
in
its
transportation
plan
that
says
we
want
a
multi-use
path
here
or
sidewalk
event,
then,
as
part
of
their
complete
streets
policy,
they're
now
required
to
include
those
facilities,
essentially
at
no
charge
to
the
local
jurisdictions.
It
used
to
be
that
you'd
have.
There
was
like
a
cost
split
situation,
but
that's
not
the
case
anymore.
L
L
A
lot
we
have
been
trying
to
encourage
them
to
seek
a
you
know
like
a
short-term
fix,
like
anna's
talking
about
with
maybe
striping
out
an
extra
part
of
the
lane,
or
putting
up
some
vertical
delineators
to
at
least
have
a
little
bit
better
connectivity
and
they're
they're.
Looking
at
that
right
now,
so
they
are.
They
are
hearing
us
and
they're
hearing
the
public
on
that
specific
issue
right
now,
and
they
are
looking
at
whether
or
not
they
can
take
right-of-way
funding
that
is
available
earlier
right
away.
L
Funding
that
had
been
allocated
for
the
whole
amboy
road
project
if
they
could
do
kind
of
like
a
shuffle
of
that
funding
and
use
it
on
the
bridge
and
then
bridge
funding
would
come
in
and
replace
the
what
they
had
allocated
for.
Right-Of-Way
funding
for
the
whole
whole
amboy
road,
so
they're,
looking
they've
heard
and
they're
looking
at
opportunities-
and
I
do
agree
with
brandy
that
I
think
it's
a
combination
of
the
noise
but
also
because
the
rad
tip
project's
been
completed.
It
just
makes
the
insufficient
facilities
that
much
more
obvious.
L
H
So
I
know
that
if,
if
we
tie
that
little
connection
to
a
d.o.t
project,
it's
going
to
be
a
long
time,
presumably
before
it
gets
built,
do
we
need
to
lobby
the
city
to
try
to
raise
funding
for
some
kind
of,
like
I
don't
know
like
a
wooden
cantilevered
sidewalk
to
attach
to
the
bridge,
I
mean
something
that
we
could
do
a
little
bit
quicker
with
a
little
bit.
H
L
Service
we
told
them
that
we
would
do.
You
know
that
if
it
was
like
a
striping,
vertical
delineator
kind
of
thing,
which
doesn't
necessarily
it
wouldn't
be
widening
the
existing
sidewalks,
but
it
would
presumably
create
a
space
for
at
least
if
someone
had
a
stroller
or
a
wheelchair,
they
could
use
that
space.
L
We
told
them,
we
would
do
it,
we
would
pay
for
it
and
we
would
install
it,
but
they
need
to
assess
the
the
you
know,
dynamics
of
that
with
turning
radiuses,
and
you
know
all
the
things,
because,
ultimately,
it's
not
our
bridge
right,
so
we
do
need
their
approval
to
do
whatever
we
do,
but
the
cost
of
a
short-term
short-term
solution
would
not
be.
It
would
be
something
that
we
could
pay
for,
and
so
we're
prepared
to
do
that
once
if
and
when
they
give
us
the
okay
to
do
it.
F
Yeah
and
just
real
quick
to
their
credit,
they
are
exploring
a
lot
of
different
alternatives
and
in
some
of
them
they
say
that
aren't
workable.
Unfortunately,
like
they
thought
about
shifting
the
traffic
all
over
to
one
side
of
the
bridge,
so
they
can
give
a
wider
lane.
You
know,
on
the
north
side
to
be
able
to
get
people
through
there
too,
but
the
bridge
isn't
structurally
sound
enough
to
be
able
to
do
that,
because
it
would
shift
too
much
weight
to
the
side.
F
So
they
are
thinking
about
those
kind
of
creative
solutions,
but
unfortunately
it's
a
really
old
bridge
and
it
needs
to
be
replaced.
Even
if
there
wasn't
an
android
project,
the
bridge
needs
to
be
replaced.
It's
reached
the
end
of
its
lifespan,
so
or
not,
not
quite
yet,
but
it's
in
that.
I
forgot
the
categories
out
there.
F
H
Is
there
an
option
to
to
keep
the
existing
bridge
for
biped,
and
so
when
they
build
the
new
project,
presumably
they're
going
to
build
a
new
bridge
a
lot
of
times?
They
just
knock
down
the
old
bridges,
keep
that
bridge
and
have
that
be
the
bike.
Ped
loop
and
have
a
separate
bridge
for
vehicular
traffic.
Is
that
something
that's
going
to
come
up
at
all.
L
That's
also
part
of
them
exploring
the
shuffling
of
the
right-of-way
funds,
and
that
could
be
another
alternative
that
we
look
at
as
a
separate
a
separate.
You
know:
vehicular
bridge
versus
pedestrian
bike
bridge.
G
Okay,
yes,
but
I'll
try
to
keep
it
brief.
I
mean
even
exploring
beyond
the
bridge
more
towards
the
smack
the
smokey
mountain
or
whatever
it
is
on
amboy
road,
where
the
entrance
to
french
broad
river
park
is.
F
G
People
speed
on
amboy
a
lot.
It's
it's
a
huge
problem,
but
even
creating
some
more
of
like
a
multi-modal
zone
in
that
area,
where
there
are
a
lot
of
just
roads
coming
in
gravel
lots,
people
coming
in
and
out
of
those
in
their
cars
to
kind
of
create,
almost
like
a
buffer
before
you
get
to
the
bridge
and
kind
of
create
an
environment
where
everything
is
just
slower
through
there.
Even
if
we
can't
deal
with
the
bridge
right
now,
that's
not
super
coherent,
but
that's
just
a
thought
that
I
had.
F
Eventually
so
and
it'll
all
tie
together,
but
it's
just
a
long
way
down
the
road.
Unfortunately,
at
this
point
in
time,
so
I
don't
know
if
they
would
do
many
temporary
measures
unless
it
was
really
low
cost
because
they
do
have
this
plan
and
sometimes
when
they
have
a
longer
term
plan.
They
are
reticent
to
do
some
of
those
short-term
fixes
because
they
figure
what's
going
to
be
taken
care
of
anyway
in
five
six,
seven,
eight
nine
years
you
know
so.
D
Okay,
see
kenny
and
then
can
you
go
go
ahead.
B
C
So
how
does
the
committee
make
noise
so
that
that's
what
how
would
we
go
about
doing
that
to
push
the
department
transportation
to
do
something
sooner.
B
So
here's
here's
what
I'm
going
to
suggest-
and
this
is
something
I
had
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
dennis
about,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
new
members
here
and
we
have
a
lot
of
passion
on
this
on
this
commission.
I,
and
typically
what
happens
is
once
a
year.
We
have
a
retreat
and
we
have
an
opportunity
to
spitball
and
brainstorm
and
really,
you
know,
just
chart
our
trajectory
for
the
next
year.
That
didn't
happen
this
year
for
because
of
covet
and
staffing
and
funding
and
stuff
like
that.
B
So
what
I
would
I
would
recommend
and,
like
I
said
I
talked
to
dennis
about
this-
I
I
think
this
group
should
should
figure
out
a
way
to
meet
virtually
and
and
spend
a
little
bit
more
time,
even
if
it
means
a
second
meeting
that
we
have
to
go
on
the
record
about
or
just
taking
one
of
our
agenda
and
kind
of
allocating
about
half
the
agenda
toward
toward
the
conversation.
F
It
might
be
a
two-part
thing,
so
I
think
michael's
exactly
right.
We
need
to
know
how
we
can
make
noise
and
when
it's
appropriate,
to
use
what
kind
of
noise.
The
second
part,
though,
is
that
if
we
want
to
do
something
now,
but
maybe
we
want
to
wait
till
next
meeting,
but
we
can
make
a
resolution,
you
know
we
can
make
a
motion
that
we
pass
on
the
council
saying
this
and
this
and
that
way,
once
the
council
knows
that
resolution,
then
they
can
direct
staff
to
work
with
ncdot.
F
Perhaps
in
this
case
to
push
for
these
agenda
items
already
and
so
they're
already
doing
that.
But
if
they
have
more
support
from
our
commission,
then
that
just
gives
them
more
more
backgrounds.
Then
then
staff
can
say
it's
not
just
us
saying
we
want
to
do
this.
We
have
the
citizens
of
asheville
pushing
hard
through
these
commissions
and
things
like
that
to
have
this
happen.
So
that's
just
in
the
short
term.
B
B
We
have
neighborhoods,
theoretically,
the
the
bubbling
of
of
any
action
should
happen
in
these
these
subcommittees,
and
then
it
should
be
advanced
up
to
to
this
level,
where
we
kind
of
articulate
it
as
a
as
a
talking
point
that
we
want
to
pass
along
to
counsel.
So
that's
what
is
really
important
that
everybody
go
to
your
your
your
subcommittee
meetings
and
and
get
a
sense
of
ownership
when
you're
there,
because
you're
kind
of
the
conduit
between
that
meeting
and
here
and
council.
D
B
I
feel
like
there
was
somebody
else
that
had
had
something:
no,
okay,
all
right
are
we
gonna
pass.
I
go
along
to
greenways.
H
Okay,
yeah
just
a
note
from
lucy.
She
wanted
to
convey
that
the
the
committee
voted
to
work
with
riverlink
to
conduct
a
public
engagement
effort
on
the
proposal
to
change
the
name
of
the
french
broad
river
east
greenway,
which
is
the
new
one.
H
Let
you
guys
know
that
the
rad
tip
project
is
going
to
have
a
month
of
celebration
starting
on
earth
day,
which
is
april
21st
and
ending
on
wilma,
dykman's
100th
birthday,
which
is
may
21st,
and
that
will
be
the
official
date
for
the
rollout
of
the
new
name
of
the
greenway,
and
she
said
that
the
town
of
woodfin
is
also
considering,
as
they
advance
their
greenway
along
the
river,
to
call
that
part
of
the
bulma
deckman
greenway,
as
well
so
kind
of
a
cool
naming
progress
other
than
you
know.
H
It's
not
great
to
just
call
it
the
french
broad
river
east
greenway,
so
it
should
have
a
name
in
the
near
future.
D
Fantastic
thanks:
okay,.
B
I
think
that's
got
us
through
anybody
else.
Have
anything
okay
and
the
reason
this
is
kind
of
sporadic
like
I'm
asking
is
that
some
of
these
media,
some
of
these
subcommittees,
haven't,
haven't
met
some
have
so
that's
that's
why
it
sounds
like
it's
a
little
off.
D
L
The
only
thing
I
wanted
to
call
attention
to
is
also
from
lucy
related
to
greenways,
and
it's
just
to
report
that
we
applied
for
a
planning
grant
to
do
a
feasibility
study
for
the
next
couple
of
sections
of
the
reed
creek
greenway,
and
we
submitted
that
application
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
the
grants
through
the
mto,
and
we
we
asked
for
forty
thousand
000,
I
think
from
from
them
to
help
us
do
those
next.
L
D
B
All
right
well,
thank
you
for
that
update
so
moving
on.
Unless
there's
any
any
questions
or
discussion
there.
Okay,
so
we've
got
a
list
of
future
agenda
items.
You'll
take
a
look
at
those
if.
B
B
Or
randy
and
those
are
the
folks
that
are
gonna,
get
those
those
action
items
on
the
agenda,
so
just
make
your
case
to
them,
and
they'll
they'll
they'll
work
with
you
beyond
that.
I
guess
we
didn't
have
any
public
comment
unless
anything's
coming,
but
other
than
that,
the
next
meeting
I've
got
it
listed
as
tbd.
Hopefully,
it'll
start
moving
to
once
every
four
weeks,
but
that
still
remains
to
be
seen
at
this
point.
B
But
I
think
this
is
a
good
meeting.
We
worked
here
a
lot
and
I
appreciate
having
a
full
roster
today
and
I
really
appreciate
working
with
you
guys
as
chair
over
the
last
year.
It's
been
really
good
and
it's
been
my
honor
and
pleasure.