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B
Thank
you
good
morning,
I'm
brian
moffett,
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
the
meeting
of
the
actual
downtown
commission
for
april
8th
2022,
the
actual
downtown
commission
was
created
by
the
city
council
for
the
sustainability
and
continued
development
of
downtown
a
vital
urban
center
of
western
north
carolina's
economic,
cultural
and
visitor
activity.
The
downtown
commission
provides
city
council
with
recommendations
on
downtown
policies
and
initiatives.
B
In
addition,
downtown
commissioners
currently
fill
three
out
of
the
nine
seats
of
the
city's
design
review
committee,
which
reviews
development
projects
within
the
central
business
district,
the
river
arch
district
and
hotel
projects
outside
of
those
areas.
The
downtown
commission
also
has
the
opportunity
to
provide
input
on
projects
outside
of
the
scope
of
design
review.
B
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
continue
to
work
through
our
committee
meetings.
This
way
we
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
committee
page.
B
We
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
and
for
anyone
out
there
today
joining
us
welcome
at
this
time,
I
will
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
who
are
participating.
Virtually
we've
been
doing
this
for
a
couple
years
now.
We
know
the
drill,
please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you're,
not
speaking,
if
you
have
a
question
and
would
like
to
speak
unmute
and
remute
your
phone
after
you're
done
or
device
committee
members.
As
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello,
andrew
fletcher
vice
chair.
B
Good
morning,
town
frankfurt.
B
Good
morning,
ricardo
is
not
with
us
ruth
summers
good
morning
and
our
city,
council
liaison
sage
turner,
will
join
us
a
little
later.
I
believe,
very
good
okay
at
this
time
we
will
go
through
and
we
will
do
an
approval
of
minutes
again.
These
are
the
draft
action
minutes
from
our
march
11th
meeting.
B
B
D
C
F
A
G
B
And
sage
is
not
with
us,
so
the
motion
passes
very
good.
Thank
you.
I
don't
believe
we
have
any
public
comment
either
written
or
voicemails.
Is
that
correct.
H
B
Okay,
I'll
I'll
go
over.
We,
we
have
a
very
nicely
abbreviated
agenda
this
morning
and
we
talked
about
briefly
whether
or
not
we
should
cancel
this
month's
meeting.
But
there
were
a
couple
things
we
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
get
to
to
basically
clear
up
room
for
next
months,
which
will
not
be
as
brief.
B
B
We
will
be
tabling
or
moving
the
discussion
on
the
college
patent
bike
lanes
because
the
the
city
staff
transportation
has
not
yet
completed
all
of
the
revisions
to
that,
based
on
all
the
input
that
they
have
received.
So
we'll
we'll
try
to
get
that
next
month
and
then
we'll
go
through
our
updates
and
reports
in
any
informal
discussion.
So
did
that
person
were
they
able
to
get
in.
F
Good
morning,
good
morning,
good
morning,
hi
everybody-
this
is
danielle
de
bella
with
brac,
I'm
a
board
member
at
large,
with
the
lights
out
initiative.
Can
you
all
hear
me.
G
B
G
B
Okay,
very
good,
kimmy
you've
got
your
hand
raised.
J
These
things,
but
because
of
the
video,
but
my
name
often
doesn't
appear
as
present,
so
I
don't
know
who's
handling
the
meeting
minutes.
I
B
Okay,
we
can
move
into
our
first
item
in
danielle.
I
believe
you
can
speak
to.
I
think
you're,
making
a
speaking
to
us
on
migratory
birds
and
lighting,
correct.
F
F
G
Let
me
try
calling
you
back
at
the
number
I
see
here
and
I'll
get
your
email
address
and
I'll
add
you
to
this:
invite.
Can
we
just
okay
that
sounds
super.
C
B
I
was
gonna
try
to
see
if
emily
is
on
here
and
if
she's
willing
to
go
ahead
and
get
started.
I
agree:
hey
emily,
do
you
mind
going
ahead
and
giving
us
an
update
on
the
homelessness
and
and
what
we're
doing
and
then
give
the
give
the
commission
a
chance
to
quiz
you
on
a
few
things
that
sound
okay.
K
Sure
happy
to
do
that
good
morning.
I'm
emily
ball,
I'm
glad
to
be
with
you
all.
Thank
you
for
the
invitation.
I
my
plan
is
to
just
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
my
role
here
at
the
city
and
give
you
some
general
updates,
but
then
really
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
K
I
think
folks
often
have
a
lot
of
curiosity
and
questions
about
homelessness
and
the
the
way
that
we
work
on
homelessness
is
actually
really
complex
and
technical,
and
so
I
wanted
to
just
be
sure
that
you
all
have
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
have
some
discussion
so
again,
I'm
emily
ball.
I
am
part
of
the
community
and
economic
development
department
here
at
the
city,
we
have
two
positions
in
our
department
that
are
dedicated
to
homelessness,
although
one
of
those
is
vacant.
K
So
at
the
moment
we
have
me
and
our
role
at
the
city,
you
know.
Certainly
the
city
has
a
kind
of
municipal
response
to
homelessness
responsibility
to
respond
to
homelessness.
K
Additionally,
the
city
of
asheville
serves
as
the
continuum
of
care
lead,
and
that
is
really
the
primary
focus
of
my
role
and
the
primary
thing
that
I
want
to
talk
about
today
is
so.
The
continuum
of
care
is
a
hud
framework
that
kind
of
describes
the
the
work
of
ending
homelessness.
The
big
idea
of
a
continuum
of
care
is
that,
rather
than
running
in
a
bunch
of
different
directions
as
a
community,
we
need
to
come
together
and
have
a
common
approach
and
do
this
as
a
single
homeless
service
system.
K
K
Look
at
the
mix
of
services
and
resources
that
are
available
within
that
geography
and
then
continually
be
tweaking
that,
so
that
we
are
increasingly
better
able
to
respond
to
the
needs
of
our
particular
homeless
population.
So,
for
example,
we
have
a
large
veteran
population
within
buncombe
county.
We
want
to
be
sure
we
have
a
lot
of
resources
available
to
homeless
veterans
to
best
respond
to
that
need
the
continuum
of
care
framework
that
the
federal
government
uses
this
is
applied
across
the
country.
There
are
over
400
continuum
of
care
across
the
country.
K
Every
continuum
of
care
is
responsible
for
having
a
lead
entity
and
in
our
community.
That's
the
city
of
asheville
and
one
of
the
responsibilities
of
that
is
data
management
and
reporting
to
the
federal
government.
So
we
operate
a
database,
the
homeless
management
information
system
to
collect
client
level
information
so
that
we
have
a
clear
picture
of
who's
homeless
in
our
community
and
what
programs
they're
interacting
with
and
then
the
other
another
piece
of
that
responsibility
is
facilitating
access
to
federal
funding
for
homeless
and
housing
programs,
so
our
department,
our
homeless
staff.
K
Again,
that's
just
me
at
the
moment-
are
responsible
for
facilitating
two
application
processes
for
hud
continuum
of
care,
funding
and
emergency
solutions
grant
funding
which
are
around
two
million
dollars
a
year,
combined
that
support
homeless
and
housing
programs
in
our
community.
So
big
idea
as
the
continuum
of
care
is
that
we
are
taking
kind
of
the
bird's
eye
view
of
homelessness
in
our
community,
working
with
service
providers
working
to
convene
some
consensus
across
our
community
about
how
to
best
respond
to
folks
who
are
homeless.
K
I
want
to
give
you
just
a
few
general
updates
from
the
city.
The
first
is
about
the
ramada,
I'm
sure
you're,
all
familiar
with
the
armada
project
that
we've
had.
We've
had
a
non-congregate
shelter
operating
there
since
april
of
last
year
and
that
just
wound
down
last
week,
and
I
feel
really
good
about
the
way
that
that
wound
down.
We
worked
really
hard
to
come
up
with
positive
exit
options
for
as
many
people
as
possible
there,
so
that
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
folks
returning
to
the
streets.
K
I
I
feel
really
good
about
the
data,
the
quality
of
data
that
we
have
in
that
project,
and
last
week,
at
most,
we
had
16
people
who
returned
to
being
unsheltered
of
those
five
had
housing
plans,
but
did
have
a
gap
between
shelter,
ending
and
when
their
unit
would
be
available.
Two
of
those
folks
have
already
moved
in
this
week
so
are
now
housed
and
of
the
other
11.
K
I
K
Of
those
folks
would
have
been
outside
and-
and
I
think
our
what
happens
next-
is
that
we
want
to
really
work
closely
with
our
service
providers
to
be
sure
that
that
those
guys
stay
connected
that
they're
able
to
get
outreach
services,
I
had
a
meeting
with
a
hope
staff
the
day
after
the
shelter
closed
to
just
do
some
pass
off
information.
Let
them
know
the
outcomes
for
the
folks
who
are
there
and
who
to
be
really.
A
K
Out
for
so
we're
still
working
on
our
data,
but
hoping
to
provide
kind
of
a
general
community
update
about
the
outcomes
of
the
ramada
project
soon,
but
I
do
feel
like
a
lot
of
really
strong
outcomes
happen
for
folks
that
would
not
have
otherwise
occurred,
as
I'm
sure
you
know,
we
also
have
we're
we're
supporting
a
real
estate
transaction
at
the
armada,
so
shangri-la
industries
is
working
to
purchase
that
property.
That's.
K
Closing
is
still
in
the
works,
but
that
is
in
process
and
that
property
will
become
permanent,
supportive
housing.
For
folks
who
are
exiting
homelessness,
the
projection
is
about
100
units,
50
of
those
will
be
for
people,
who've
been
chronically
homeless
and
54
veterans
who've
been
homeless.
K
K
We,
as
I'm
sure
you
know
this,
is
a
partnership
between
the
city,
the
county
and
dogwood
health.
Trust
dogwood
is
funding
the
consultancy,
but
that
will
route
through
the
city
of
asheville.
Proposals
were
due
on
the
11th,
I'm
sorry
on
the
18th
and
we
received
11
proposals.
K
K
K
Just
a
couple
other
things
we
are
finalizing
our
point
in
time.
Count.
Data
point
in
time
is
our
annual
count
of
the
number
of
folks
who
are
homeless
on
a
single
night
at
the
end
of
january,
and
we
should
have
that
available
at
the
end
of
april.
So
in
just
a
couple
weeks
and
then
lastly,
just
wanted
to
mention
the
homeless
initiative
advisory
committee,
the
jointly
appointed
city
and
county
committee,
I'm
sure
you
all
are
familiar
with
that.
K
K
That
group
meets
on
the
last
friday
of
the
month
at
9
00
a.m,
and
I'd
certainly
encourage
any
of
you
to
participate
in
that.
If
you're
interested
in
that,
I
wanted
to
say
thanks
to
megan
and
robin,
I
know
that
they
have
been
coordinating
with
other
folks
in
the
community
and
appreciate
you
guys
doing
that.
Also.
K
So
those
are
updates
for
me
I'll
stop
there,
but
I
am
happy
to
discuss
anything
you'd
like
to
or
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
D
Hey
emily,
thanks
for
the
update
I
I'm
interested,
so
I
know
there
was
a
10-year
plan
for
eradicating
homelessness
in
asheville
and
that
ends
this
year.
So
what's
the
plan
for
a
new
plan,
great.
D
And
how
do
we
get
to
actually
right,
like
is
eradicating
homelessness,
because
I
believe
that
the
number
of
people
that
identified
as
homeless
during.
C
D
Term
of
the
plan
tripled
so
like
is
eradicating
well,
it
was
like
200
and
something
and
it's
about
600,
maybe
I'm
I
could
be
wrong,
but
if
eradicating
homelessness
is
actually
the
right
goal
achievable
goal,
or
can
we
set
up
more
kind
of
like
milestones
of
addressing
homelessness,
specifically
in
downtown
asheville
and
especially
highlighting
the
cert?
The
business
survey
that
I
think
we're
discussing
today
we're
the
number
one
issue.
K
Great
questions
the
original
10-year
plan
was
adopted
in
2005
and
then
we
most
recently
have
had
a
five-year
plan
that
is
concluding
this
year,
so
we
have
not
yet
begun
sort
of
developing
a
new
plan.
I
think
that
has
traditionally
lived
with
hayak
the
homeless
initiative
advisory
committee.
K
So
I
think
that
that
you
should
expect
to
see
something
from
that
group
along
those
lines
soon,
but
I
also
think
because
we
have
this
consultancy
coming
specific
to
unsheltered
homelessness
and
the
strategy
about
that,
and
there's
it's
not
possible
to
sort
of
separate
out
the
unsheltered
population
from
the
larger
context
of
how
we
end
homelessness
in
our
community.
So
I
think
we'll
we'll
see
how
those
things
weave
together.
K
If
that
makes
sense,
I
think
we
may
or
may
not
need
a
new
strategic
plan
in
light
of
the
fact
that
we
will
have
this
set
of
recommendations
and
strategies
coming
from
the
consultant.
The
pup,
the
homeless
population
has
not
increased
in
the
last
12
years
or
so
we've
always
been
above
500
below
600..
K
I'm
not
sure
where
that
200
number
is
coming
from
that
you
mentioned,
maybe
a
subpopulation,
but
our
population
has
stayed
relatively
flat
for
a
pretty
long
time.
Now.
What
I
would
say
about
the
goal
of
ending
homelessness
is
yes
absolutely.
We
want
that
to
continue
to
be
our
goal,
but
what
that
means
is
two
things
one.
K
It
means
we
want
to
do
that
on
a
very
individual
level,
so
we
want
to
end
homelessness
person
by
person,
but
the
way
that
we
do,
that
is
by
building
out
a
system
that
that
has
the
capability
to
do
that.
The
term
at
the
federal
level
is
functional
zero
and
what
that
means
is
that
that
we
build
a
homeless
service
system
that
is
highly
responsive
so
that
when
people
become
homeless,
we're
able
to
address
that
crisis
really
quickly
with
them.
K
Have
them
move
through
that
system
in
under
90
days
and
exit
into
permanent
housing
and
then
not
return
to
homelessness,
so
that
the
idea
is
that
people
will
always
have
a
housing
crisis.
That's
reality.
All
of
us
on
this
call
will
have
a
next
crisis
in
our
lives
and
for
folks
who
don't
have
a
lot
of
support
in
place.
Don't
have
a
lot
of
resources
to
draw
on
when
that
crisis
occurs,
they
can
become
homeless,
that
the
goal
is
that
our
system
again
is
able
to
really
quickly
and
effectively
respond
when
that
crisis
does
occur.
C
Thanks
emily
for
that
info,
I
have
a
question.
This
number
has
been
pretty
stable,
but
it's
obviously
it's
not
the
same
five
or
six
hundred
people
furthering
this
time.
Do
we
have
an
idea
of
how
many
people
are
becoming
homeless
and
how
many
people
are,
how
many
people
are
entering
that
population
every
year
and
how
many
people
are
leaving
that
population
every
year?
I
know
we
there's
some
that
are
chronically
homeless,
that
probably
are
counted
multiple
years,
but
what
was
our
sense
of
the
churn
of
those
numbers.
K
Also
a
great
question:
what
a
fun
group
of
people!
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
this
really
thoughtful
engagement,
you're,
that's
exactly
right:
it's
not
a
static
population,
and
it's
also
exactly
right
that
we
have
some
folks
who
have
been
homeless
for
a
number
of
years
in
our
community
who
would
have
been
counted
year
after
year
in
that
chronic
sub-population.
K
I
don't.
We
don't
have
data
on
inflow
and
outflow,
partly
because,
ideally
you
know,
I
said
earlier-
we
manage
that
homeless
management
information
system.
Ideally
we
would
have
all
of
our
homeless
service
providers
and
anyone
who
connects
with
that
population
participating
in
that
database
and
then
we
would
be
able
to
measure
influence
outflow
and
really
do
some
detailed
data
analysis.
K
We're
not
yet
at
that
point
in
our
community.
Participation
in
that
database
is
voluntary
unless
you
are
an
agency
using
hud
funding.
That
requires
you
to
participate,
and
so
we
have.
In
the
last
two
years,
we've
doubled
the
participation
in
that
database
and
are
working
with
our
kind
of
our
last
remaining
providers,
who
are
not
participating
on
pathways
to
have
them
join
that
so
so
I
don't
have
actual
data
to
share,
but
we're
certainly
working
towards
that
goal.
C
So
how?
How
far
are
you
away
from
getting
everyone?
That's
involved
to
participate
in
that
database
and
are
there
particular
challenges
like
privacy,
laws,
and
things
like
that
that
you
run
up
against.
K
I
would
say
at
the
moment
we
have
three
agencies
who
were
in
active
conversation
with
about
participating
and
then
we'll
have
more
or
less
a
comprehensive
data
set
in
our
community.
I
think
the
challenge
is
the
the
database
is
something
that
the
city
pays
for,
so
there's
no
cost
to
agencies
in
participating
in
that.
I
think
the
challenge
is
just
the
sort
of
hassle
of
data
entry
and
doing
all
the
training
and
getting
access
to
that
system,
and
I
also
think
some
agencies
are
often
different.
K
K
C
C
I'm
of
the
opinion
that
it's
both
cheapest
to
the
public
funds
and
best
to
the
individuals
experiencing
the
the
issue
to
try
to
intervene
before
they
become
homeless
is
is.
Is
that
within
your
purview
at
the
city
or
is
that
is
that
somebody
else's
desk
that
that
those
types
of
programs
work
at.
K
Both,
I
would
say
so,
the
kind
of
technical
language
is
emergency
assistance.
Programs
are
things
like
eblin
or
the
county
has
some
emergency
assistance
funding
abccm.
Those
are
things
like
I've
gotten
behind
on
my
utility
bills,
or
can
you
help
with
a
portion
of
my
security
deposit?
That
kind
of
thing?
That's
relatively
that's
quite
upstream
from
homelessness.
K
Homelessness
prevention
is
really
targeted
to
people
who
it
is
not
to
be
confused
with
eviction
prevention,
so
vast
majority
of
people
who
get
evicted
do
not
become
homeless
and
homelessness.
Prevention
is
intended
to
really
target
folks
who
are
most
likely
to
end
up
at
an
emergency
shelter
if
they
do
get
evicted
or
on
the
streets.
K
We
know
from
national
research
that
the
best
predictor
of
who
those
folks
will
be
is
whether
or
not
they've
experienced
homelessness
in
the
past
seven
years
in
particular,
so
the
funding
for
homelessness
prevention,
that's
one
of
the
screening
criteria
or
eligibility
emergent.
The
emergency
solutions
grant
that
I
mentioned
earlier
that
we
facilitate
access
to
homelessness.
Prevention
is
one
of
the
activities
that
it
funds
and
in
our
community
right
now
we
have
helpmate
homerebound
elida.
K
And
that's
it
helmet
homer,
bound,
andaleida
and
abccm
all
providing
homelessness
prevention
along
those
lines
to
different
target
populations.
So
abccm,
for
example,
is
doing
that
for
veterans
elida
for
transition,
age,
youth
up
to
age,
25
help
mate
for
survivors
of
domestic
violence
et
cetera,
but
we
do
have
an
active
homelessness
prevention
effort
across
our
community.
C
J
Hi
emily
thanks
for
your
presentation,
so
my
first
question:
I
have
a
couple
of
short
questions:
the
database
that
you
said
you're
used.
Does
it
also
track
migratory
homelessness,
like?
Is
it
integrated
with
other
cities,
municipalities
and
towns,
where
that
information
can
help
to
understand
people
who
are
migrating
as
a
result
of
not
having
homeless
resources
where
they
were,
and
maybe
moving
to
another
town
to
obtain
them.
K
No
it's.
There
are
some
opportunities
for
data
sharing
across
systems,
so
every
continuum
of
care
is
required
to
have
on
hmis
and
there
are
opportunities
to
do
some
data
sharing
across
those
geographies.
We
don't
currently
participate
in
that,
but
one
of
the
entry
questions
in
hmis
is
about
the
zip
code
of
your
last
permanent
address
and
there's
which
is
getting
at.
Where
did
where
were
you
living
when
you
became
homeless?
K
In
this
episode
of
homelessness
and
there's
also
an
entry
question
about
where
folks
were
the
night
before
they
entered
so,
for
example,
abcccm's
veterans,
restoration
quarters
program
is
it's
a
transitional
housing
program
for
veterans
veterans
are
often
coming
to
our
community,
partly
because
we
have
such
a
good
va
medical
center
here.
That
is
a
regional
access
point
for
health
care,
and
so
a
lot
of
the
inflow
into
that
veterans.
Restoration
quarters
is
folks
coming
from
outside
of
buckingham
county
and
we're
able
to
track
that
from
that
night
before
question
in
hmis.
K
J
And
then
my
other
question
is
you
know
what
other
cities,
towns,
municipalities?
What
have
you
are
at
that
zero
level?
You
talked
about
the
goal
of
what
it
is
that
you're
doing
and
others
like
you
in
this
work,
and
so
what
other
towns
are
at
zero
near
zero
maintain
zero,
and
why
are
there?
Is
it
an
infrastructure?
J
It's
a
wraparound
of
mental
health
services.
I
noticed
that
some
of
the
folks
you
mentioned,
don't
necessarily
have
the
mental
health
components.
You
know
wrapped
into
all
of
the
services
they
provide.
So
I
think
for
me,
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
what
does
it
look
like
to
be
at
or
near
zero
at
on
at
a
regular?
Like
that's
our
pace,
that's
what
we're
up
to
thank
you
for
your
time
and
all
of
what
you
do.
K
I
can't
tell
you
off
the
top
of
my
head
what
those
other
communities
are,
but
I
am
happy
to
to
follow
up
with
that
information
and
give
that
to
dana
and
she
can
send
that
out
to
you.
There
is
not
a
community
to
my
knowledge
that
has
reached
functional
zero
for
all
populations,
so
across
the
board,
functional
zero
for
homelessness.
K
There
are
communities
that
have
reached
functional
zero,
for
either
veterans
or
for
people
who
are
chronically
homeless.
So
that's
been
the
real
push
across
the
country.
The
last
I
don't
know,
probably
six
or
seven
years
is
those
two
target
populations.
In
particular,
a
lot
of
resources
are
available
for
homeless
veterans
and
we
know
that
people
who
are
chronically
homeless
have
the
most
complex
needs
and
the
least
ability
to
exit
homelessness
without
some
type
of
intervention.
K
J
D
There
you
go,
I
feel
like
the
the
reason
why
a
lot
of
organizations
are
not
using
the
hmis
system
is
because
it's
mainly
to
report
information
to
hud,
rather
than
actually
track
and
ongoing,
create
ongoing
change.
So
I
wonder
if
the
cities
explored
other
solutions
that
integrate
with
that
so
can
streamline
the
reporting,
while
offering
some
value
to
the
aid
to
the
to
the
external
agencies,
like
follow-up
surveys
via
text
messages
to
see
where
what's
the
status
of
the
clients
and
so
on.
D
So
I
I
just
the
usage
of
technology
rather
than
defaulting
to
just
the
had
system
is
just
a
reporting
mechanism.
It's
not
really
a
case
management
solution
and
then
the
second
question
is
aaron.
What's
what
are
what
are
we
doing
in
the
short
term
right
we
go
outside
like
when
we
go
out
downtown
and
you
know
we
walk
downtown.
What
do
we
do
at
that
point
like,
in
the
short
term,
between
now
and
eradicating
homelessness
or
getting
to
that
zero?
K
So
I
don't.
I
don't
actually
think
that
I
don't
know
if
you
know
otherwise
I'd
love
to
talk,
but
I
don't
actually
think
that
that
is
a
primary
barrier
for
agencies
and
using
the
homeless
management
information
system.
It
does
actually
have
a
lot
of
functionality
and
can
be
really
useful.
K
I
know
elida
is
one
of
the
agencies
that
joined
in
the
last
couple
years
and
they
were
really
excited
about
about
what
it
meant
for
reporting
for
their
other
programs,
because
they
were
able
to
just
quickly
run
a
demographic
report,
for
example,
and
not
need
to
be
tracking
a
bunch
of
spreadsheets
and
all
that.
So
I
do
actually
think
that
it
is
a
value,
add
it's.
It
can
be
really
cumbersome
to
get
into
that
system
on
the
front
end,
but
I
think
for
agencies
that
have
joined.
K
Your
second
question
was:
what
do
we
do
in
the
in
the
immediate
right?
We
have
a
lot
of
people
who
are
homeless
in
our
community
right
now.
I
think
we're
our
community
is
in
a
really
tough
spot,
and
I
would
also
say
that
we're
certainly
not
alone
in
that
that
is
what's
happening
across
the
country.
We're
seeing
really.
This
is
a
really
direct
result,
I
think
of
the
pandemic,
and
that's
not
exactly
that
people
lost
their
jobs
because
of
covid
and
then
and
now
sleep
outside.
K
It's
not
a
it's,
not
a
quick
or
clean
path
from
point
a
to
point
b
and
that
I
think
it's
more
that
we've
had
folks
who
maybe
were
just
kind
of
right
on
the
edge.
Maybe
unstably
housed,
didn't
take
a
lot
for
them
to
lose
housing.
Maybe
they
were
paying.
You
know
100
bucks
a
month
to
stay
with
a
friend
and
then
that
friend
it
wasn't
able
to
keep
them
during
the
pandemic.
Those
kinds
of
things
I
think,
a
lot
of
people
with
pre-existing
mental
health
and
substance
use
disorders.
K
Those
things
certainly
did
not
improve
in
the
pandemic.
I
think
all
of
that
has
gotten
just
more
difficult
for
people.
Services
were
really
decreased
during
the
pandemic
and
are
starting
to
come
back,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
like
we.
We
have
lost
some
shelter
bed
capacity,
for
example,
or
libraries,
where
people
would
often
go
we're
closed
for
a
period
of
time,
and
so
just
the
things
that
kept
people
more
stable.
K
We're
pulled
back
a
bit,
and
so
I
think
we've
seen
this
real
increase
in
instability
in
our
community
and
again
across
the
country.
I
just
participated
in
a
national
alliance
to
end
homelessness
conference
on
unsheltered
homelessness,
and
it
was
very
everything
that
I
heard
from
other
communities
was
very
similar
to
what
we're
seeing
in
our
community,
which
is
why
we
have
this
consultancy
for
someone
to
to
help
guide
us
around
responding
to
unsheltered
homelessness.
In
particular,
it
really
seems,
like
that's,
been
a
specific
increase
in
our
community.
K
I
would
say
our
focus
at
the
city
has
really
been
on
creating
additional
shelter
capacity,
so
that
folks
do
have
the
opportunity
to
come
inside.
So
that
was
the
ramada
initiative
we
had
116
people
come
through
that
we
supported
the
nightly
winter
shelter
at
trinity,
united
methodist,
as
well
as
the
shelter
at
abccm,
that's
still
running
through
the
end
of
this
month.
What
I
know
is
that
when
folks
are
outside
it's
it's
either
because
they
can't
or
won't
come
in
to
the
shelters
that
are
available
to
them.
K
So
part
of
our
charge
as
a
community
is
to
build
out
interventions
that
people
will
be
more
responsive
to
that
are
based
on
what
their
particular
needs
are
in
our
community
right
now,
it
is
close
to
impossible
to
get
a
shelter
bed.
If
you
don't
have
a
state
issued
id,
which
you
know
many
many
people
who
are
homeless.
Don't
have
that
and
once
you
lose
that
id,
it's
really
difficult
to
regain
that.
A
K
Working
with
providers
on
what
those
barriers
are,
how
can
we
work
around
that
or
if
we
can't
work
around
that,
how
can
we
build
out
other
interventions
that
are
available
to
people
who
are
outside?
We
also,
the
city
is
funding
street
outreach
positions
at
home
or
down.
So
that's
a
key
part
of
our
overall
strategy,
but
I
I
would
say
I
think
I
think
we
are
going
to
continue
to
see
this
increase
in
kind
of
the
escalate
escalated
nature
like
the
difficulty
of
unsheltered
homelessness,
as
well
as
the
volume
of
unsheltered
homelessness.
G
Related
to
short-term
management,
too
I'll,
just
chime
in
and
say
like
I'd,
encourage
us
to
consider
specifically
what
the
concerns
are.
So
is
it
presence
of
individuals,
and
what
about
that
is
contributing
to
this
negative
experience?
You
know:
is
it
illegal
behavior?
Is
it
open
drug
use?
Is
it
so
because
we
have
different
tools
to
address
each
of
those
things?
Is
it
mental
health
issues,
and
you
know
the
county,
also
is
working
on
different
strategies.
G
They
have
a
community
diversion
program
now
where,
if
people
are
likely
to
be
interacting
with
the
justice
system,
they
can
actually
provide
assistance
to
those
individuals.
So
I
do
just
encourage
us
not
to
combine
everything
into
this
one
issue
of
homelessness,
because
we
do
have
some
good
strategies.
I
think,
to
address
different
some
of
the
different
specific
issues
that
we're
seeing
that
may
be
associated
with
our
larger
homelessness.
B
E
Yeah
my
question
is
specifically
for
just
general
information
across
the
country
that's
been
taken.
Lately
is
lgbtq.
Youth
are
about
120,
more
likely
to
experience
homelessness.
We
are.
We
are
seeing
that
in
asheville,
lgbtq,
eq,
youth
right
off
the
bat.
The
these
people
are
presented
with
a
really
uneven
playing
field,
because
even
if
they
do
get
services
as
homelessness,
they
are
subsequently
victims
of
violence
and
so
forth.
K
Yeah,
I
think
that
has
certainly
been
a
a
priority
population
for
the
federal
government,
recognizing
all
of
the
things
that
you
just
said,
and
also
recognizing
that
that
we
have
a
kind
of
time
limited
opportunity
to
intervene
while
people
are
in
that
age
group
so
that
they
don't
spend
years
on
the
street.
We
certainly
want
to
avoid
that,
if
at
all
possible
I
think
for
me
it's
been
really
exciting
to
have
elida
as
a
partner
at
the
table.
That's
that's
been
new.
K
You
know,
they're,
a
long-standing
community
organization
done
a
lot
of
really
good
work,
but
it's
been
relatively
new
for
them
in
the
last
couple
years
to
have
a
homelessness
focus
and
and
specifically
to
be
operating,
housing
programs
and
homelessness
prevention
programs.
For
that
age
group.
We
also
convene
our.
I
convene
a
a
regular
work
group
of
providers
that
are
specifically
focused
on
that
population,
so
we've
got
elijah
participating
in
that
caring
for
children
and
specifically
the
trinity
place
program,
youth,
outright
participation.
K
Goodwill,
the
school
liaison,
so
every
every
school
system
across
the
country
is
federally
mandated
to
have
a
staff
position.
That
is
a
liaison
to
students
who
are
experiencing
homelessness,
so
those
folks
participate
in
that
group.
So
our
our
intention
there
is
just
to
really
pull
together
the
people
who
are
working
with
that
population
so
that
they
can
kind
of
cross
pollinate
with
resources
and
information,
and
we
can
collectively
develop
some
strategy
and
just
have
some
vision
around
you
know
again.
I
think
it's
such
an
early
intervention
opportunity
that
we
want
to
be
taking.
K
I
will
say
that
a
real
challenge
for
that
population
is
the
housing
piece
of
it.
So
you
know
the
work
of
any
homelessness
means
that
you
find
homes
for
people
and
that
you
provide
the
support
they
need
to
stay
in
those
homes.
A
challenge
that
I
know
lida
in
particular,
has
been
running
into
with
their
housing.
K
Work
is
finding
landlords
who
are
willing
to
say
yes
to
in
general,
it
is
difficult
for
housing
programs
to
find
landlords
who
are
willing
to
say
yes
right,
based
on
the
population
based
on
the
rental
rates
and
all
of
that,
but
for
elida
in
particular,
they're
working
with
folks
who
have
zero
rental
history
because
they're,
you
know
18
or
19
and
are
just
not
coming
from
that
kind
of
background.
L
No,
I
every
emily's
got
it.
She
covered
it.
I
was
just
going
to
mention
trinity
place
and
youth
outright
and
yeah
great
job,
emily
emily,
thank
you
for
being
with
the
with
us
today
to
share
all
of
this
you've
been
a
tremendous
resource.
B
Any
final
comments
or
or
or
questions
so
I
had
one
you
were
talking
about
the
ramada
project
and
you
mentioned
positive
exit
options
and
I'm
just
I
don't
know
what
I
know
what
they
can
mean,
but
I
know
what
I
might
mean
by
that.
What
is
what
does
that
mean
in
in
your
world?
What
is
a
positive
exit
option
when
they
leave
a
shelter.
K
Yeah
well
certainly,
the
the
best
case
scenario
is
that
they
leave
a
shelter
and
move
into
their
own
apartment,
and
we
had
a
number
of
folks
in
that
particular
position,
and
that's
that
is
the
goal
for
most
people.
I
would
say
for
some
people,
let
me
back
out
the
way
that
I
think
about
the
work
of
ending
homelessness,
meaning
how
do
we
get
people
into
through
to
a
positive
exit?
Is
this
kind
of
like
funnel?
K
This
makes
sense,
so
we
want
to
be
at
the
bottom
of
this
funnel
we
have
housing
programs
for
people
who
are
homeless.
Those
are
publicly
funded.
Programs
often
certainly
also
have
a
mix
of
funding
that
includes
private
philanthropy,
but.
A
C
A
K
Want
to
retain
those
for
folks
who
have
really
no
other
option,
people
who
cannot
do
anything
but
use
one
of
those
programs
in
order
to
not
be
homeless,
and
so
what
that
means
is
that,
above
that,
we
want
to
be
working
with
folks
really
creatively
on
any
other
solution
that
might
work
for
them.
So
what
that
means
on
the
ground?
What
that
meant
for
me
at
the
ramada
is
talking
to
folks
about
friends,
reconnecting
with
friends
and
family.
K
We
had
three
people
that
we
bought
bus
tickets
for,
and
I'm
saying
we,
but
I
don't
mean
the
city,
and
this
I
mean
the
initiative.
We
worked
with
some
private
donors
to
create
some
resources
for
that,
but
three
people
we
bought
bus
tickets
for
to
go
back
home
and
that's
not
us
just
like
shipping
homeless
people
to
other
communities.
That
is
us
calling
mom
in
the
midwest
to
confirm
that
she
wants
him
to
come
back
home
and
have
space
for
him
and
we'll
meet
him
at
the
bus
station.
K
You
know
really
really
due
diligence
on
that
process,
so
reconnecting
with
friends
and
family
is
certainly
part
of
it
and
where
that
is
positive
and
healthy
for
people,
we
want
to
support
that.
That
gives
them
a
lot
of
resources
to
draw
on
and
I'll
say
about
the
ramada
that
I
think
you
know.
K
Who
entered
the
ramada
was
unsheltered
prior
to
that,
and
I
I
think
it's
not
that
likely
that
the
folks
who
were
able
to
reconnect
with
friends
and
family
would
have
done
that
at
least
on
that
timeline.
Had
they
continued
to
be
unsheltered,
but
I
think,
as
people
came
inside
got
some
stability.
They
just
had
a
different
opportunity
to
engage
and
do
and
repair
some
relationships,
and
so
so
friends
and
family
is
an
example
of
a
positive
exit.
A
K
The
opportunity
to
refer
them
to
a
program
there
wasn't
inflow
opportunities
in
those
programs
or
they
weren't
eligible
for
those
folks.
We
tried
to
again
be
really
creative
and
say
if
you
can,
if
you,
if
you
can
find
someone
who
will
rent
a
room
to
you
or
rent
a
unit
to
you,
if
you
can
find
housing
on
your
own,
we
will
figure
out
how
to
pay
your
move-in
costs.
K
K
So
those
are
those
are
the
main
things
and
then,
of
course,
again,
traditional
housing
programs
homer
bound,
really
tremendous
partner.
In
that
project,
a
number
of
folks
moved
out
of
their
armada
into
housing
programs
through
home
rebound.
K
We
also
had
some
folks
who
exited
to
programs
through
via
health
and
helpmate,
and
then
I
did
include
in
that
positive
exit
category
people
who
moved
into
other
community
programs,
so
transitional
housing
at
abccm.
For
example,
we
had
one
person
exit
into
that,
so
it
did
include
those
so
folks
who
did
not
return
to
unsheltered
homelessness.
B
Very
good,
thank
you
kimberly.
You
had
something
else.
J
Yeah
very
quickly,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
emily.
So
has
your
department
in
this
case
just
you,
because
you
said
you're
right
now:
it's
just
you
or
the
city
in
general
ever
conducted
a.
J
J
So
I'm
wondering
if
you've
ever
done
it
if
it's
ever
been
done
and
if
not
and
if
yes
would
it
be
something
to
consider,
because
we
don't
know
how
many
people
have
would
if,
with
an
incentive
without
an
incentive,
whether
it
be
tax
or
whatever,
to
actually
become
a
part
of
the
solution.
So
I
I
was
going
to
email
this
to
you
privately,
but
I
thought
why
the
heck
not
so
there
we
go.
K
That's
great,
no,
to
my
knowledge,
that's
not
how
that
survey's
not
happened
from
our
department
here,
but
but
I
think
you're
right.
That's
a
great
idea
and
I
think
you're
exactly
right
that
this
has
to
be
a
community
response.
K
Certainly
the
city
has
a
role
to
play
in
that,
and
I
think
this
is
this
is
part
of
what
I
was
trying
to
sort
of
differentiate
at
the
beginning
between
the
city,
as
local
government
has
a
responsibility
and
a
response
to
engage
with
this
issue
and
kind
of
on
a
separate
track
as
the
continuum
the
continuum
of
care
lead.
The
continuum
of
care
structure
is
intended
to
do
exactly
that,
to
pull
together
our
whole
community
to
say
like
exactly
what
you
said:
it's
not
possible
for
a
single
entity
to
be
the
solution.
K
This
has
to
be
a
community-wide
response,
and
I
do
I
I'm
such
a
fan
of
two
things,
one
just
the
the
very
clear
acknowledgement
that
homelessness
is
terrible
and
that
ending
homelessness
benefits.
All
of
us
right.
Every
single
person
in
our
community
benefits
from.
C
K
Homelessness
and
so
whether
you
are
a
person
who
is
just
a
staunch
advocate
for
homeless
people
or
whether
you're
a
person
who's
very
frustrated
by
homelessness
in
our
community.
We
want
the
same
thing
like
we
have
a
common
goal,
and
so
I
think
it's
really.
It's
really
compelling
to
me
to
look
at
how
can
we
all
sort
of
have
some
skin
in
that
game
and
what
are
actual
action
steps
that
all
individuals
across
our
community
can
take
to
get
that
community-wide
solution.
J
Yeah
I
appreciate
you
saying
that,
and
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
with
what
I'm
asking
is.
I
recognize
that
as
everyday
citizens,
we
don't.
Always
all
of
us
have
a
professional
capacity
to
support
the
various
types
of
homelessness
right,
but
maybe
we
have
a
capacity
to
support
a
person
or
multiple
people
over
a
series
of
time
with
certain
a
specific
need.
J
L
I'll
just
say
quickly,
as
I
am
the
liaison
to
this
board,
I'm
also
on
something
called
the
home
consortium,
which
is
a
four
county
consortium,
the
henderson
transylvania,
madison
buncombe
and,
as
part
of
the
rescue
plan,
federal
funding,
a
program
that
we
administer
called
home
funding,
received
an
additional
4.7
million
dollars
specifically
to
work
on
homelessness,
so
that
period
of
application
and
awarding
is
coming
up.
L
I
think
the
application
process
we're
trying
to
get
it
to
be
out
by
may
and
then
the
allocation
could
be
like
november
and
such
but
that's
money
specifically
coming
into
our
four
county
region
to
work
on
homelessness.
So
saying
that
to
say
you
know,
there's
there's
an
additional
one-time
resource
right
now,
but
as
the
largest
city
and
the
most
urban
area
of
all
of
those
four
counties,
this
downtown
commission
could
recommend
something
I
mean
as
since
I
work
for
both
I
could
take
that
recommendation
to
the
comb
consortium.
L
B
Okay,
any
any,
we
probably
need
to
come
back
with
this,
and
we
don't
need
to
keep
bothering
emily
with
all
of
it.
I
really
appreciate
all
this
thought
that
you've
been
put
into
it.
B
Let's
think
about
this,
a
little
bit
more
any
closing
comments
or
thoughts
for
emily
as
we've
got
her
go
ahead.
Andrew.
D
C
I
know
that
full
city
council
is
this
is
relevant
to
full
city
council,
it's
relevant
to
our
entire
community
and
being
able
for
us
to
make
the
time
for
that
right
here
at
the
commission
level
and
making
that
available
to
the
public
and
everything
you
presented
is
absolutely
valuable
and
really
helps
streamline,
probably
up
meetings
upstream
from
us
at
the
city
council
level.
So
just
want
to
want
to
say
thank
you
for
being
here
and
for
making
the
time
for
for
all
of
us
in
the
commission
and
the
public.
G
Just
want
to
highlight
something:
emily
had
previously
said,
which
is
hayak,
is
going
through
kind
of
a
bit
of
a
refocus,
and
that
that
is
that
commission
meets
monthly.
That's
a
great
place
to
continue
to
stay
like
fully
informed
on
everything
going
on
and
again
thanks
to
megan
and
to
robin
for
stepping
up
from
the
downtown
commission
to
make
sure
they
can
be
serve
as
some
form
of
a
liaison
to
you
all.
G
B
Very
good,
thank
you
that
was
great.
Let's
move
back
to
danielle
who's,
going
to
give
a
presentation
on
migratory
birds
and
lighting.
M
There
we
go
good
morning,
everybody
that
was
very
interesting.
I'm
I'm
glad
to
listen
into
that.
I
know
that
is
a
huge
issue
and
I'm
grateful
for
everybody
doing
their
work
on
this.
M
I
actually
have
dana
who's
going
to
put
up
a
little
slide.
Show
dana
I'm
going
to
have
to
ask
you
to
kind
of
forward
the
slides
as
we
go.
If
you
wouldn't
mind.
M
You
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
you
were
going
to
speak
with
paulina
today,
she's,
a
recent
unca
graduate
student
and
she's
been
working
full-time.
However,
blue
ridge,
autobahn,
commission
and
committee
has
actually
hired
her
to
work
full-time
on
our
lightsaber
part-time,
on
a
lights
out
project,
so
I'm
stepping
in
for
her
today.
Just
so,
you
all
know
how
this
all
evolved.
So
I
apologize
that
I
didn't
get
the
links
and
all
that
so
we're
back
on
board.
Once
again
my
name
is
danielle.
I
am
a
board
member
at
large.
M
We
formed
with
a
blue
ridge,
auto
bonds.
Commission
excuse
me
blue
ridge,
auto
bond
program,
and
this
we
formed
this
about
two
years
ago.
Sarah
paulina
and
I
addressing
the
need
to
create
a
lights
out
program
here
in
asheville
and
as
you
see,
we
have
several
partners
aboard,
including
the
club
greenworks
mountain,
true
usfw
and
astronomy
of.
M
During
the
spring
migration,
which
is
occurring
actually
right
now
and
over
the
fall
months,
over
698
million
birds
take
flight,
headed
south
and
then
eventually
head
back
north
million
pass
over
the
asheville
area.
As
you
can
see
on
the
map,
we
are
in
what
they
consider
called
the
flyway
zone
of
these
birds
between
their
breeding
and
wintering
grounds,
and
also
just
an
fyi
but
buncombe
county
is
in
the
top
county
in
north
carolina
for
bird
watching
and
tourism.
M
This
this
is
little
information
of
how
many
species
and
what
we
have
that
do
come
through
this
area,
as
you
see
cane
creek,
as
well
as
beaver
lake
bird
sanctuary
as
especially
to
see
a
huge
variety
of
species
of
birds.
So
we
get
a
lot
of
natural
intention
here
in
nashville,
just
over
birding
next
slide.
M
M
It's
actually,
our
numbers
are
down
to
27
decrease
in
songbirds
nationally
asheville
is
listed
in
the
top
125
cities
that
produce
migration
disrupting
light
pollution.
Research
has
shown
that
eliminating
non-essential
indoor
and
exterior
lighting
at
night
during
migration
times
can
significantly
reduce
bird
mortality.
M
So
we
got
together
with
the
sustainability
group
and
we
kind
of
collaborated
and
they
helped
us
got
together,
get
a
signed
proclamation
with
the
mayor,
that
is,
the
coalition
for
bird
friendly,
asheville
unc
audubon
blue
ridge
audubon,
with
the
support
of
our
partners,
where
the
city
will
turn
their
lights
off
on
all
city
buildings
during
migration
periods.
M
We're
really
quite
impressed
of
you
know
them
really
addressing
this
issue
and
a
majority
of
the
city
buildings
have
are
cooperating
with
this,
but
we
still
have
some
key
pocket
areas,
but
so
far,
so
good
with
the
city
lights,
for
example,
if
we
use
shielding
that
could
be
aimed
downward,
we're
asking
to
use
the
lowest
light
level
required,
as
well
as
timers
motion
detectors
to
close
blinds
to
ensure
that
light
is
available
when
it's
needed
plus
limit
the
amount
of
shorter
wavelength
flight
to
the
least
possible
amount
which,
as
you
see
here,
is
below
6000k
next
slide.
M
M
They
have
a
big
thing
going
on.
As
you
see
in
the
slide,
you
know
what
we
could
do.
What's
the
purpose,
how
do
how
can
we
address
this?
What
kind
of
light
we
could
use?
This
has
been
studies
and
studies
that
have
been
going
on
for
quite
some
time.
M
M
This
slide,
I
can't
do
complete
justice.
I
wish
sarah
was
here
to
discuss
this
with
you,
but
she's
in
the
middle
of
approaching
finals,
so
bear
with
me
on
this.
She
knows
more
of
the
science
than
I
do,
but
really,
basically,
what
we're
saying
here
is
by
just
reducing
glare
by
simply
putting
on
some
shielding
can
simply
reduce
the
glare
and
that
increases
nighttime
visibility.
M
M
This
is
what
I
kind
of
just
discussed,
so,
if
you,
if
you
also
see
here
too,
we
have
talked
and
we're
able
to
get
rebates
by
adding
sensors,
we
have
things
that
have
worked
so
far
so
good.
As
I
said,
a
lot
of
buildings
have
reduced
light
pollution.
M
M
M
We
have
them
sign
a
pledge
form
that
they're
working
together
as
a
city
with
the
city-
and
this
is
kind
of
now,
where
we're
trying
to
speak
with
you,
because
the
asheville
downtown
commission
has
expressed
its
commitment
to
provide
recommendations
and
allied
policies
that
facilitate
the
sustainable
development
of
the
city
of
asheville.
M
The
lights
out.
Asheville
is
a
program
that
is
centered
on
sustainability,
basically
from
energy
savings
to
ecological
consequences,
lights
of
asheville
will
enhance
the
sustainability
of
all
who
participate
and
support.
The
program
with
with
actual
downtown
commission
has
an
established
extensive
network
businesses,
building
owners,
managers,
community
members
and
city
staff
rely
on
the
commission's
expertise
and
guidance
to
move
in
the
direction
of
sustainable
development.
M
So
the
design
review
committee
is
instrumental
as
we
understand
in
ensuring
that
new
development
aligns
with
smart
growth
and
development
goals.
So
we
would
like
really
to
connect
with
the
design
review
committee
and
provide
insight
into
ways
that
they
can
use
their
authority
to
promote
bird
state
development.
M
I
know
there's
been
some
questions
about
being
too
dark
and
crime.
Preventions
there's
been
massive
amount
of
studies
on
that,
and
they
really
have
not
proven
that.
That
is
a
fact.
By
turning
off
the
lights,
that's
going
to
deter
crime,
so
we're
not
asking
for
all
lights
to
be
extinguished
and
that
light
necessarily
for
making
people
safe
should
be
responsibly
installed.
B
Okay,
thank
you
kimberly.
I
think
you
have
a
question.
J
Yeah
hi
danielle.
Thank
you
for
your
implementation,
so
I
am
not
only
on
this
commission,
the
design
review
committee,
but
I'm
also
a
board
member
of
mountain.
True,
oh.
J
J
You
know
20
feet,
15
feet
high,
that
you're
actually
going
for,
or
do
you
just
want
all
lights
to
be
diminished
at
some
level
which
we
have
to
balance
human
and
natural
environment?
Thank
you
right.
M
M
So
if,
if
you
know,
let's
get
past
the
glare
and
those
those
kind
of
impacts,
but
there
is
a
lot
of
things
just
here
in
town
that
shoot
brightly
up
and
north,
and
so
I
think
that's
half
of
it
is
that
if
we
could
just
change
the
direction
of
the
lighting
and
maybe
reduce
the
color
of
the
lighting
in
the
the
wavelengths,
that
would
that
would
be
a
huge
impact.
We're
not.
C
M
To
remove
all
lighting,
it's
just
the
more
or
less
upward
lighting,
especially
in
the
buildings
that
have
lights
on
all
night,
that
don't
necessarily
have
to
be
on.
B
And
and
the
the
city
ordinance
dark
sky
initiative
recognizes
required
bug
ratings.
A
bug
rating
is
the
oh.
I
have
to
remember
now:
uplight
glare,
what's
the
b,
a
back
light
yeah,
so
any
light
behind
the
fixture
any
light
above
the
fixture
and
then
the
glare,
and
then
we
also
address
some
color
temperature
things
andrew
go
ahead.
C
Yeah
thanks
danielle.
This
is
really
interesting.
I
do
a
little
bit
of
bird
watching
every
morning
over
coffee,
I've
got
eight
chickens
and
my
roommate
just
got
into
bird
watching
and
so.
C
Definitely
fun
and
valuable
to
to
protect
that,
and
I
I'm
wondering
I
know
that
the
the
city
has
some
opportunities
to
do
well,
but
I
think
the
city
has
some
opportunities
to
enforce
our
existing
rules
better.
Can
you
comment
on
like
whether
you
think
that
we
have
whether,
like
our
the
enforcement
on
private
property
of
the
existing
rules,
is
lacking
or
whether
the
law
of
the
the
code
governing
that
is
lacking?
You
know,
can
you
do
you?
Do
you
know.
C
M
Just
just
so,
you
all
understand
this
proclamation
just
occurred
within
the
last
few
weeks,
so
we
are
kind
of
diligently
working
to
you
know
we're
learning
as
we
go
with
a
lot
of
this
information.
Just
so
you
understand.
But
yes,
I
think
there's
there's
two
things
happening
here.
The
city-
yes,
I
believe,
can
do
more
in
in
the
sense
of
communicating
they
did
do
a
press
release
and
some
general
information.
M
M
So
we
can
share
this
lights
out
information
and
that's
kind
of
where
we've
stalled
a
little
bit,
because
unless
we
cold
call
to
get
in
to
talk
to
these
people,
it's
going
to
be
difficult
to
make
this
move
forward.
I
just
want
to
throw
out
there's
there's
like
over
40
major
cities
doing
this
and
it's
been
a
very
successful
program,
so
I
I
feel
that
we
can
do
this
and
the
potential
is
there
to
do
this.
M
It's
just
a
matter
of
how
we're
going
down
the
line
with
it,
but,
yes,
I
think
both
both
the
city,
as
well
as
local
building
owners
good
to
be
doing
more.
C
Yeah,
I
can,
I
can
think
of
some
who
could
be
doing
more
and
I
might
have
a
contact
for
you
to
reach
out
to
them.
So
if
you'd.
F
C
If,
if
you
can
ask
dana
for
my
email
address
and
and
then
send
me
an
email,
I
would
be
happy
to
to
try
to
connect
you
with
someone
that
you
might
be
able
to
work
with.
E
Have
you
the
people
that
design
lighting
for
for
for
developments.
E
Engineers
have
you
had
an
a
chance
to
speak
to
maybe
the
professional
organizations
in
town.
I
mean
a
lot
of
them
already
know
about
these
kinds
of
things.
I
mean
brian,
and
I
have
been
talking
in
in
a
separate
working
group
about
bringing
lights
down.
E
You
know
this
is
for
tree
canopy,
but
it
also
seems
the
same
functions
you
you
light
the
area
that
needs
to
be
that's
actually
used
and,
if
you're,
if
you're
getting
a
lot
of
spill,
light
you're,
actually
looking
directly
at
the
source
of
the
light,
that's
a
lot
of
wasted
energy.
E
These
are
sort
of
to
me.
These
are
kind
of
common
concepts.
Also,
I
did
a
study
back
in
the
early
90s
for
a
bank
in
new
orleans
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
discovered
is
the
brighter
the
light.
The
darker
the
shadow
even
at
a
lower
and-
and
that
was
to
kim's
comment-
is
the
color
rendition
changes
things
as
well:
people's
skin
the
colors
change,
depending
on
whether
it's
a
warm
light,
a
a
you
know,
a.
A
M
Yes,
there's
actually
there's
actually
a
program.
That's
been
developed
just
for
architects
that
we're
going
to
be
promoting,
but
you
know
to
be
honest:
we
really
need
to
create
some
kind
of
building
ordinances
that
promote
bird-friendly
development
for
new
construction
and
remodels.
M
I
I
know
like
just,
for
example,
new
york
city
now
has
laws
in
place?
Anything
that's
going
up
has
to
be
bird-friendly
glass.
Anything
that's
being
remodeled
has
to
be
perfect,
you
know,
so
they
there
is
that
power
and
I'll
tell
you.
The
new
materials
that
they're
coming
up
with
are
phenomenal,
and
it's
just
a
matter
of
getting
that
word
out,
but
have
we
talked
to
them?
Targetly,
specifically,
no,
but
it
would
be
nice
for
to
deal
with
this
next
step
with
the
city
to
get
some
kind
of
building
ordinances
passed.
M
I
think
that
would
really
make
this
move
a
lot
quicker,
but
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
the
international
dark
sky
association
recommended
responsible
or
outdoor
lighting,
bird-safe
glass,
enhanced
urban
canopies.
You
know
things
like
that
and
it
it
it's
clearly
right
at
our
fingertips.
All
this
knowledge
is
right
here.
You
know,
I
think,
if
we
can
count
on
the
design
review
committee
to
recommend
lights
out
appropriate
lighting
fixtures
to
developers
in
nashville.
That
would
be
huge.
F
J
Okay,
thank
you.
So
if
you
would,
that
would
be
great.
I
think
that's
really
important
number
one
and
number
two
to
kind
of
piggyback
on
that
question
that
I
just
asked
has
it?
Is
there
any
data
that
shows
that
biodynamic
or
any
kind
of
natural
landscapes
landscape
to
the
natural
ecosystem
of
a
specific
area?
J
That's
implementing
this
program
has
also
contributed
to
the
safety
of
the
birds
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
yes,
we're
talking
specifically
at
night
but
rooftop
gardens
or
certain
trees
or
other
things,
architecturally
that
aren't
just
about
changing
the
built
materials,
I'm
not
suggesting
they
shouldn't
be
changed,
but
I
think
what
I'm
asking
is
like
what
other
layers
of
development
and
inspection
have
been
done
to
say
because
you
know
green
roofs
here
are
going
to
continue
to
flourish.
How
has
that
impacted
it?
J
If
we
added
other
elements
on
a
green
roof,
would
it
actually
change
and
support
that
migratory
pattern?
So
I'm
not
sure
I
have
personally
have
enough
information
to
know
how
to
advocate
for
what
you're
asking
for,
because
our
topography,
our
built
environment
and
also
some
of
our
green
initiatives
that
we
really
advocate
for
not
just
in
the
cbd
but
outside.
F
A
Hey
I
just
my
camera's
blocked,
so
I'm
not
going
to
bother
with
it,
but
my
question
just
from
a
staff
perspective,
is
I'm
wondering
if
the
height
of
the
building
makes
a
difference
like
are
taller
buildings
bigger
priority
for
you
all
and
is
there
like?
Is
it
over
two
stories
three
stories,
or
is
it
just
every
single
building.
M
That's
that's
a
good
question
statistically
believe
it
or
not.
Four
stories
in
down
are
some
of
our
most
massive
kills.
That's
because
the
birds,
that's
where
they're
flying
there,
they
nest
down
there,
they're
feeding
down
there
and
it's
all
about
reflections.
So
even
I'm
sure
you've
heard
thumps
on
your
window
and
people
like.
Oh
it
flew
away
those
usually
go
into
a
death
spiral
within
24
hours
from
concussions.
M
M
That's
what
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
seen
that
I
mean
it's
horrible
to
see,
but
there
are
some
videos
out
there
where
especially
oh
gosh,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
not
gonna.
Tell
you
the
right
race
track
that
it
occurred,
but
like
a
couple
thousand
birds
all
hit
this
window
like
right
at
the
same
time-
and
it
was
it
was
just
horrible
and
of
course
I
think
it
was
in
philadelphia,
and
so
what
we
have
is
two
things
going
on
here.
M
Yes,
there's
a
lot
of
community
outreach
and
education
that
we
need
to
teach
just
here
through
our
neighbors
of
like
what
they
could
do,
they
they're
simple
in
in
it
very
inexpensive
things
they
could
do
with
their
their
own
windows.
But
during
the
migration
period
we're
finding
these
exhausted
birds
are
being
drawn
by
the
light,
because
they're
on
a
magnetic
magnetic
force
and
they're
being
dropped
further
south
and
that's
what
that's
what's
happening
is
that's
we're
losing
a
massive
amount
because
of
light
pollution.
So
it's
a
two-fold
issue.
E
Problem
we
have
with
with
general
parking
lot
lighting
and
street
lighting.
Is
it
it
not
only
has
to
affect
birds,
but
it
affects
the
the
trees
that
are
nearby.
It
changes
their
daily
rhythms,
trees
that
are
are
subject
to
24-hour
lighting.
E
They
don't
act
the
same
as
trees
that
are
in
a
natural
environment,
and
so
there's
this
a
complicated
issue,
but
if
we
would
deal
with
it
on
a
a
broader
perspective,
I
think
we
could
have
a
healthier
environment,
not.
A
F
M
M
We
have
a
lot
of
burgers
that
do
come
through,
so
it's
kind
of
in
one
sense,
a
business
model,
you
know,
that's
it's
big
since
covet
occurred.
Burning
has
become
a
huge
thing
in
our
world.
More
and
more
people
have
gotten
outdoors.
Like
even
andrew
mentioned,
there's
just
more
and
more.
M
Then
you
also
have
not
just
that,
but
you
are
reducing
lights
significantly.
That's
why
the
city
was
very
interested.
I
mean
we're
we're
saving
them.
You
know
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
per
year,
just
turning
the
lights
off
in
that
five
to
six
month
period
between
11
30
to
six
in
the
morning,
so
that
that's
that's
a
big
carbon
footprint
right
there,
so
and
and
then
it's
just
in
general,
we're
saving
the
birds
lives
and
with
between
climate
change
and
all
these
other
issues.
M
It's
that's
kind
of
you
know,
that's
where,
where
we're
headed,
so
whatever
we
could
do
to
support,
not
just
our
community
with
energy
but
with
the
birds
would
be
a
huge
step
for
us
and
asheville.
I
can't
imagine
at
all
cities
we
would
be
one
of
the
groups
that
would
be
doing
this.
So
I'm
very
appreciative
of
what
the
the
proclamation
that
was
signed
and
I
hope
we
could
go
to
the
next
level.
B
B
All
right,
we
will
move
into
updates
and
reports,
design,
review
committee,
stephen
lee.
N
Thank
you,
brian
just
two
points
that
I've
got
noted
here
to
share.
We
have
three
new
members
join
that
have
lots
of
experience
and
we're.
I
think
all
of
us
are
really
excited
about
the
new
members,
kate
and
kaya,
christina
and
ricardo
siejo.
N
H
Roll
into
both
of
them
from
a
general
update,
we
are
kicking
off
our
event
season.
Next
week,
we
added
a
april
date
to
our
downtown
after
five
calendars,
so
we'll
have
that
six
times
a
year
starting
next
week,
where
we've
got
several
local
bands
on
the
calendar
for
the
year
as
well
as
some
some
regional
touring
bands
and
as
usual,
we
are,
you
know,
limiting
our
vendor
programs
to
all
local
food
vendors
to
support
those
folks.
We're
also
producing
a
concert
with
the
steep
canyon
rangers.
H
A
free
concert
in
pack
square
park
on
may
7th
and
we're
beginning
work
on
bringing
back
the
full
july
4th
event
with
fireworks
and
the
whole
shebang
downtown.
So
be
looking
for
that,
of
course,
always
looking
for
volunteers.
If
anyone
is
interested
just
let
me
know,
we
are
hosting
a
downtown
cleanup
day
on
april
19th,
I'd
love
to
see
some
representation
from
our
downtown
commission
members.
It
is
a
tuesday.
H
H
Hundred
volunteers
already
signed
up
so
that's
awesome
and
partnering,
with
asheville
greenworks,
of
course,
the
city
of
asheville
and
then
beloved
as
well
on
that
project.
So
if
you'd,
like
more
information
or
the
link
to
sign
up,
I
can
send
that
out
later
try
to
drop.
H
It
drop
it
in
the
chat
here
when
I'm
done,
and
then
some
of
you
might
have
seen
that
local
artist,
ian
wilkinson
updated
the
waterfall
mural
on
the
staircase
between
battery
park
and
wall
street,
and
it
almost
was
a
repaint
and
a
full
refresh,
and
it
looks
great
we're
on
on
our
contract
with
that
is
through
2024.
H
I
hope
that
we're
able
to
figure
out
a
way
to
keep
it
and
or
to
do
a
new
project
there.
Of
course
that
will
take
some
funding
and
that's
mostly
what
I
have
for
the
downtown
association.
So
if,
unless
there's
questions
I'll
just
roll
into
the
survey
review,
okay,
so
several
of
you
attended
our
state
of
downtown
luncheon
last
month.
So
you
heard
my
report
on
this.
I'm
just
going
to
touch
on
a
few
key
takeaways.
You
have
the
link
that
dana
provided.
That
is
to
some
summary
data.
H
I
also
have
another
document
I
can
share
where
you
asked
a
lot
of
open-ended
questions
and
those
can
be
tough
to
to
put
into
it
like
a
final
document.
So
I
do
have
a
one
that
has
some
word:
clouds
that
sort
of
tries
to
get
to
what
were
the
key
responses
in
those
open-ended
questions,
but
just
quickly
we
had
101
businesses
that
we
did
focus
on
businesses
for
this
survey.
So
101
businesses
filled
out
the
survey.
H
We
did
encourage
business
owners
to
share
the
survey
with
their
employees,
so
we
do
have
some
businesses
that
were
represented
twice,
not
very
many,
but
I
think
that
the
employee
perspective
is
really
important
to
get
as
well.
We
asked
you
know
the
types
of
businesses
about
two-thirds
of
respondents
were
either
a
retail
gallery
or
a
food
and
beverage
type
business.
So
that's
who
we
heard
the
most
from
when
we
asked
them
top
three
reasons
for
being
downtown
right
for
wanting
to
be
in
downtown.
H
We
wanted
to
ask
a
positive
question,
because
the
survey
does
get
into
a
lot
of
issues.
We
heard
central
location,
downtown
traffic,
foot,
traffic,
tourism,
location,
business
community.
Those
kinds
of
answers
no
surprise
there.
When
we
asked
the
top
three
issues
that
your
businesses
faces,
here's
where
we
saw
homelessness
come
intel.
I
think
you
were
mentioning
that
earlier,
as
well
as
safety
concerns
and
cleanliness
parking
came
in
a
very
close.
H
Fourth,
it
used
to
be
the
number
one
issue
it
has
slipped
and
when
people
talk
about
parking,
they're
really
talking
about
affordable
parking
options
for
their
employees,
I'll
go
into
those
other
three
issues
in
just
a
second,
we
asked
people
to
rank
some
services
and
we
saw
really
these
three
answers.
Kind
of
almost
came
in
neck
and
neck,
so
enhanced
safety
measures,
outreach
services
and
programs
for
people
experiencing
homelessness
and
enhanced
maintenance,
really
sort
of
came
in
those
top
three
very
close
together.
So
almost
you
know
a
tight
tie
answer
there.
H
When
we
asked
about
issues
as
they
impact
your
business,
we
saw
reducing
homelessness
as
the
number
one
response
and
and
and
then
increasing
safety
again
came
in
neck
and
necks
with
that,
and
then
improving
cleanliness
and
reducing
criminal
activity.
H
Also,
when
we
ask
people
how
safe
they
feel
in
downtown
during
the
day,
we
saw
an
answer
of
roughly
3.5
out
of
5,
but
that
number
drops
to
just
below
2.
When
we
ask
the
same
question
about
how
safe
do
you
feel
at
night
in
downtown
and
then
the
the
reasons
for
that
right
have
like.
Why
did
you
answer
that
way?
People
say
that
you
know
they
increasing
crime,
whether
that's
a
perception
or
an,
in
fact,
a
truth.
That
is
the
number
one
answer
with
decreased
police
presence.
H
Really
both
of
those
answers
are
tied
for
first
place.
I
mean
there's
almost
no
different
differentiation
between
the
two.
H
So,
let's
see
we
asked
a
couple
questions
around
homelessness
and
I
thought
this
was
there
were
some
interesting
answers
here,
and
I
hope
that
I
can
get
back
with
emily
and
and
and
talk
about
how
to
like
move
these
issues
forward,
but
folks
when
we
asked
if
they
supported
an
emergency
shelter.
So
this
is
has
lots
of
names
right,
low
barrier,
high
access,
emergency
culture.
We
did
see
that
about
half
of
the
respondents
said
yes
with
about
sorry
about
30
folks,
saying
they're.
H
Just
not
sure
and
really
that
I
think
they
had
questions
and
they
needed
more
education
around
that
issue.
So
we
also
asked
people
about
supporting
alternative
approaches
to
addressing
homelessness,
non-violent
issues
surrounding
homelessness,
such
as
an
expansion
of
buncombe,
county's
community
paramedicine
program.
This
far
and
away
received,
77
responses
said
yes,
so
there's
obviously
a
lot
of
support
for
that
and
then
again
there
were
a
few
folks.
That
said,
I'm
sure
and
I
think,
with
more
education
on
that
issue.
They
they
probably
would
get
to
a
yes
and
then
this.
H
You
know
this
was
an
interesting
question
and
I
I
need
to
follow
back
up
on
it
and
figure
out
the
best
way
to
follow
up
on
it,
but
we
asked
if
people
would
be
willing
to
hire
someone
who
was
either
currently
or
formerly
homeless.
If
there
was
a
program
in
place
that
helped
ensure
the
success
for
both
the
employee
and
the
employer,
we
saw
about
half
again
say
yes
and
another
40,
so
almost
half
say
they
were
unsure.
H
I
think
that
that's
really
interesting
to
me
and
I
I'd
love
to
be
able
to
go
back
to
those
businesses.
You
know
we
and
say
you
know
here
are
some
options
for
how
you
can
get
involved
and
how
you
can
sort
of
stop
start
that
process
and
get
into
a
program.
So
I
definitely
want
to
want
to
do
more
on
that
response.
H
Let's
see
cleanliness,
we
asked
people
to
bring
cleanliness
in
downtown,
and
this
was
ranked
at
basically
a
two
out
of
five.
You
guys
probably
saw
there
was
an
extensive
presentation
last
week
or
the
week
before
by
the
newer
assistant
city
manager,
rachel,
wood
on
cleanliness
and
downtown,
and
what
the
city
is
doing
and
some
of
the
things
that
some
of
the
you
know
the
the
ways
they're
partnering
on
that.
H
H
Do
you
support
having
public
restrooms
in
downtown
for
24
7
access,
74
people
said
yes
and
then
a
few
others
said.
Maybe
so
you
know,
we've
already
talked
about
this.
This
commission,
you
know,
sent
a
we.
We
requested
that
council
work
on
that
through
through
the
downtown
commission,
so
I
appreciate
that
that's
been
something
we've
really
been
focused
on,
and
then
we
asked
a
couple
questions
about
like
development
and
infrastructure
with
development.
H
The
need
for
affordable
and
workforce
housing
and
adjacent
to
downtown
was
the
number
one
answer,
as
well
as
an
infrastructure
plan
that
keeps
pace
with
development
and
then,
lastly,
infrastructure.
We
saw
improving
pedestrian
safety
and
experience
come
in
as
the
top
answer
and
then,
of
course,
installation
of
additional
public
restroom
facilities
was
a
closed
second.
H
So
that's
the
that's
the
really
quick
version
of
that.
Again.
I'm
happy
to
share
another
document
with
the
group.
If
you'd
like
to
take
a
look
at
that
we
do
this
twice
a
year
in
the
beginning
of
the
year
and
put
the
results
out
during
the
state
of
downtown
luncheon,
and
then
we
do
it
again
about
mid-year.
These
results
are
almost
immediately
shared
with
city
council,
appropriate
city
staff,
buncombe
county
commissioners,
any
other
groups
and
organizations
that
are
working
on
any
of
these
issues.
H
So
I've
already
presented
them
to
the
city's
internal
downtown
staff
group
and
they
do
take
these
things
seriously
and
utilize.
This
information
to
you
know
put
together
additional
programs
and
initiatives
from
the
city,
so
thanks.
B
Whenever
I
see
data
like
this,
I
always
want
to
see
like
which
areas
of
town
some
of
this
data
comes
from.
I
mean
this
really
good
data
right.
If
I
want
more
any
any
questions
for
megan
that
was,
that
was
good.
Hopefully,
all
of
y'all
have
the
actual
pdf
document.
If
you've
got
any
questions
or
comments
or
or
think
about
a
little
bit
more.
H
So
just
quickly
we
did
record
the
state
of
downtown
luncheon,
and
so,
if
you
guys
for
those
of
you
who
weren't
able
to
be
there,
if
you'd
like
to
take
a
look
at
that,
we
tried
really
hard
to
to.
We
actually
usually
just
sort
of
have
three
presentations
about
what
we're
doing
right:
the
city,
the
county
and
the
downtown
association.
This
time
we
worked
together
to
make
sure
we
were
addressing
the
issues
that
were
brought
forward
and
I'll
say
that
people
came
to
the
meeting
and
said
you
know.
H
I've
had
some
concerns
about
downtown
coming
into
this
meeting.
While
I
still
have
some
of
those
concerns,
I
feel
better
knowing
what's
going
on
and
what
initiatives
and
things
are
being
worked
on
by
these
various
organizations.
So
I
do
think
it
was
helpful.
So
I
can
also
share
the
link
to
the
video.
B
As
well
perfect,
thank
you.
I
don't
know
that
you
need
to
give
a
report
on
homeless
initiatives
that
has
been
exhaustively
covered.
H
Yeah
I
forgot
about
that.
I
did
two
quick
things
on
that
emily
covered
most
of
it
right
I
mean
she's
she's,
the
expert
here
so
code
purple
is
in
effect
for
tonight
and
tomorrow
night
as
we're
seeing
temperatures
drop
below
freezing.
So
just
a
note
there,
and
as
far
as
that,
how
affordable
housing
committee
that's
another
one
we've
been
sitting
in
on.
There
was
a
bond
update.
H
That
was
like
my
key
takeaway
from
that
meeting,
which
is
quickly
of
the
I
think
it's
25
million
dollars
in
bonds
that
were
approved
back
in
2016.,
17.6
million
has
been
spent
with
7.4
million
remaining
there's
been
32
acres
of
land,
403,
affordable
units
and
92
plus
that
are
in
the
pipeline.
So
that
was
my
takeaway
from
that.
B
Perfect
kimberly
go
ahead.
J
And
thanks
for
your
report,
I
wanted
to
ask
specifically
because
we're
kind
of
the
tail
end
of
the
pandemic
and
things
will
kind
of
shift
this
the
survey,
how
much
of
that
was
guided
by
like
just
loss
of
services,
or
you
know
that
routine
with
cities,
public
maintenance
and
things
like
that-
was
that
one
of
the
questions
that
was
asked
and
was
it
like
compared
to
pre
versus
during
versus
tail
end
of
pandemic?
I
I
know
that
this
is
their
sentiment
now,
but
the
framework
or
context
is
always
important
to
me.
H
Yeah,
that's
a
really
good
point.
I
we
didn't
ask
that
question
specifically
like
have
you
seen
these
issues
increase
you
know
throughout
the
pandemic.
I
think
one
way
to
maybe
try
to
get
that
data
is
to
look
at
previous
surveys
and
see
where
things
like
a
2019
survey
may
be
and
see,
sort
of
where
things
stacked
up.
Then
we
did
ask
some
covid
related
questions
that
were,
but
they
were
really
more
business
focused
like.
J
At
and
then
also
like-
and
the
other
question
I
want
to
know
is,
like
you
know,
if
you're
looking
at
2019,
was
it
owner
managed
and
is
it
mostly
staff
like
what
staff
changes
have
happened,
because
I
think
that
data
shifts
based
on
not
only
what
the
public
services
are
available
during
the
pandemic,
but
also
what
their
business
model
might
be
in
terms
of
if
it
was
owner,
operated
or
now
it's
a
different
group
of
people.
So
I
don't
know.
H
Yeah,
I
think
that's
really
an
interesting
point.
Maybe
we
can
figure
out
a
way
to
get
to
that
in
the
mid-year
survey.
B
G
So
the
task
force
has
we've
had
a
full
meeting
and
then
we've
also
had
one
site
visit
since
the
full
downtown
commission
last
met.
We
have
a
pretty
big
group,
so
we
are
breaking.
We
have
this
site
visit.
One
took
place
earlier
this
week
and
we
have
another
one
next
week,
trying
to
also
offer
opportunities
for
those
task
force
members
to
participate
on
their
own
time
if
they
need
to
so
the
first
meeting
that
we
had
was
really
kind
of
getting
everyone
providing
background
on
the
work
that
the
committee
had
previously
done.
G
Talking
about
the
public
space
management
framework,
providing
some
updates
on
that
meeting,
you
all
had
with
the
multimodal
commission
and
some
of
the
discussion
there,
but
then
so
yeah
folks,
who
have
missed
that,
are
welcome
to
go,
take
a
look
at
the
recording,
it
was
live
streamed
and
then
these
walkthroughs,
the
first
one,
was
great.
We
had
a
good
mix,
we
had
a
couple
of
busking
representatives.
G
G
We're
going
to
be
asking
for
for
likely
a
top
three
that
we
could
get
focused
on
in
the
year
ahead.
So
so
yeah,
it's
been
fun
to
get
going
good
couple
meetings
and
andrew.
If
you
have
anything
to
add.
C
Yeah,
I
thanks
dana,
that's
a
great
overview,
and
so
I
I
just
want
to
characterize
my
work,
our
work
rather
than
get
into
the
details
exactly
like
dana
did.
You
know
the
I'd
say
the
first
meeting
was
you
know,
pretty
typical.
First
meeting
everybody's
cautious
and
you
know
just
sort
of
feeling
the
feeling
the
waters
out
and
our
site
visit
was
really
great.
There
was
a
tremendous
amount
of
shared
recognition
of
the
problems
and
solutions
and
what
things
are
what
things
are
working?
I
did
sort
of
direct
us.
C
Dana
had
done
a
really
great
job
of
of
showing
some
some
problem
areas
that
we
want
to
look
at
and
make
sure
that
whatever
recommendations
we
make
are
effective
in
those
in
those
locations,
and
I
pulled
this
aside
a
couple
times
and
said:
hey,
let's
look
at
some
stuff,
that's
working
really
well,
so
we
can
kind
of
learn
from
learn
from
each
set
of
things,
and
the
newer
stuff
on
haywood
street
is
really
it's.
C
You
can
just
obviously
tell
it's
working
so
much
better
than
the
older,
the
parts
of
the
city
who
haven't
seen
a
lot
of
attention
or
have
seen
some
new
uses
since
they
were
really
put
together.
So
I'm
really
confident
that
we're
gonna
be
able
to
get
a
very
useful
document
for
the
city
and
for
city
staff
and
for
users
of
public
space
downtown.
So
thanks
to
dana
and
everybody
else
on
that
commission
for
really
putting
their
putting
good
work
forward.
G
Thank
you,
pac
square
plaza
improvement,
so
we
had
talked
previously
we'd
shared
that
the
city
will
be
hiring
this
project
management
team
to
work
on
a
plan
and
vision
for
the
future
of
pac
square,
plaza,
we're
conducting
interviews
with
the
top
firms
next
week,
a
team
of
city
and
county
staff,
and
so
once
we
get
the
project
manager
on
board
we're
going
to
get
started
with
the
six
to
nine
month,
community
engagement
process.
So
I
anticipate
that
really
getting
going
in.
G
Probably
in
may
related
just
a
note
that
we
were
waiting
on
a
court
decision
about
the
removal
of
the
remaining
portion
of
the
vance
monument
and
the
court
did
make
a
decision
last
week
and
has
determined
we
can
proceed
with
that
removal.
So
I
don't
have
a
specific
update
on
the
date
that
we'll
be
getting
back
to
work
on
that,
but
I
would
anticipate
that
soon.
G
South
slope,
south
side
vision
plan.
So
you
all
heard
about
this
plan
last
month.
The
survey
is
open
through
today,
so
we
did
extend
the
survey
deadline.
We
have
gotten
a
lot
of
responses
so
far,
which
is
great
but
final
opportunity
to
take
the
survey
today.
If
you
have
not
already,
and
then
we
plan
sasha
plans
to
return
to
the
downtown
commission
next
month,
to
ask
you
all
for
a
recommendation
to
take
a
vote
on
moving
that
plan
forward
to
council
proposed
bike
lanes
on
college
and
patents.
G
We
were
going
to
have
staff
return
today,
but
we
had
some
good
input
sessions.
We
had
a
couple
walk-throughs
and
transportation
staff
is
currently
taking
all
that
input
and
making
some
adjustments
to
that
proposal.
So
staff
plans
to
return
next
month
and
we'll
also
ask
you
all
for
a
formal
recommendation
on
that
carter
and
patton's
stormwater
project.
I
don't
have
new
updates
just
want
to
continue
to
keep
this
on
your
radar.
G
We're
finalizing
details
of
a
contract
and
construction
is
anticipated
to
begin,
probably
in
june,
and
continue
for
quite
a
while
16
months.
It's
a
great
project.
It's
going
to
improve
accessibility,
it's
going
to
improve
storm
water
and
the
whole
that
whole
area
of
town
there
are
going
to
be
some
impacts
to
the
roadway
and
to
the
sidewalks.
During
that
project,
so
we'll
keep
you
guys
posted
on
all
of
those
proposed
advisory
board.
Restructure
staff
hosted
four
different
workshops
and
got
some
input
on
the
initial
proposal
that
had
been
presented.
G
All
of
the
information
everything
we
heard
is
available
on
a
project
page.
I've
provided
a
link
to
that.
The
next
step
is
that
an
update
is
actually
going
to
be
provided
at
the
next
city
council
meeting
on
tuesday
april
12th
and
there's
a
work
session
that
will
be
scheduled
with
city
council
for
may
staff,
anticipate
asking
for
approval
from
council
at
that
time
to
move
forward
with
a
pilot
program.
G
And
development
projects,
so
we
heard
from
stephen
lee
the
next
design
review
committee
meet
meeting
is
next
thursday
and
they'll
be
reviewing
a
couple:
downtown
projects,
informally
72
broadway's.
Returning
for
informal
review,
226
hillyard
is
a
new
project.
I
think
it's
primarily
residential
going
for
informal
review
and
no
updates
on
the
eris
pergola
they're
going
to
be
proceeding
through
a
conditional
zoning
process.
So
we
do
anticipate
that
coming
back
to
us,
we
thought
we
may
be
reviewing
a
demolition
at
100,
south
lexington,
but
they've
pulled
that.
G
G
They
established
six
strategic
priorities
for
the
year
ahead:
improving
and
expanding
core
services,
houselessness
strategies,
equitable
and
affordable
housing
and
stability,
neighborhood
resilience,
reimagining
public
safety
and
reparations.
Of
course,
that
meeting
was
recorded.
Both
of
those
meetings
were
recorded
and
you're
welcome
to
check
that
out
and
our
budget
process
is
moving
along.
G
The
next
budget
work
session
is
coming
up
on
april
12th
on
tuesday
the
next
the
session
following
is
scheduled
for
april
26th,
and
the
city
manager
is
scheduled
to
present
a
proposed
budget
on
may
24th,
and
oh
just
wanted
to
highlight
assistant
city
manager,
rachel
wood
provided
a
presentation
at
the
march
22nd
council
meeting
on
cleanliness
strategies
both
within
downtown
and
city-wide,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
that.
G
You
know
there
was
definitely
good
discussion
after
the
downtown
association
survey
about
cleanliness
concerns,
so
rachel
laid
out
both
some
short
and
long
term
strategies
to
address
some
of
those
concerns.
So
I
I
would
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
at
that.
If
you
can
we'll,
obviously
keep
you
posted
on
initiatives
that
we're
working
on
and
what
else
so,
todd
was
going
to
be
presenting
a
one-year
update
on
the
hotel
development
process
at
next
week's
council
meeting.
I
think
that
may
just
be
in
a
memo
format.
G
G
G
G
Our
tech
abilities
capabilities
are
going
to
be
a
bit
limited,
so
we'll
we're
basically
planning
to
go
back
to
pre
our
pre-code
format.
We
may
have
the
ability
to
record
meetings,
but
it's
not
looking
like
we'll
have
the
ability
to
live
stream
stream
meetings
so
next
month,
and
definitely
maybe
we
can
have
a
little
bit
more
of
a
discussion
about
that
transition
and
I'm
curious
to
hear
if
you
all
have
you
know
any
thoughts
and
preferences
on
that.
Actually,
specifically
so
before
kobud
we're
meeting
at
8
30
a.m,
we've
shifted
to
9
30.