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From YouTube: Reparations Commission – March 20, 2023
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Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Community Reparations Commission.
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D
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F
B
B
Let
y'all
know
that
Dr
Ward
I
mean
Dr.
Lawrence
will
not
be
here
I'm
here
alone,
for
his
family.
B
So
have
everyone
had
a
chance
to
review
the
minutes.
H
So
I'd
like
to
turn
it
up
with
Christine
Edwards
to
review
our
February
twinning
reading
survey
data.
Thank
you.
Vice,
chair,
hi,
everyone,
I'm,
Christine,
Edwards
I,
am
the
project
manager
for
the
community
reparations
commission.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
tonight.
So,
just
briefly
to
go
over
the
survey
data.
It
is
including
your
agenda
packet
I,
hope
that
you
all
have
had
a
chance
to
review
it.
There
were
not
a
lot
of
responses,
but
the
responses
were
pretty
positive.
I
will
just
point
out
a
couple
of
comments
that
stood
out
I.
H
Think
a
few
people
commented
on
the
fact
that
we
did
Isa
updates
at
the
top
of
the
meeting
and
that
really
allowed
more
time
for
the
commission
to
engage
and
collaborate
with
one
another
and
hear
from
one
another
and
then
also
comments
being
shared
about
being
able
to
cover
the
full
agenda.
H
H
H
H
Okay,
I'm,
actually
gonna
I'm
gonna
hand
it
over
to
our
IFA
facilitators
and
spokespersons
for
their
update,
but
I
do
also
just
want
to
remind
you,
I'm,
going
to
be
facilitating
and
time
keeping
this
evening.
So
they're
we're
going
to
hear
from
two
IFA
groups
and
each
group
will
have
15
minutes
each
at
the
two
minute
Mark
when
they
have
two
minutes
left
I'll
hold
up
a
two
minute
sign
when
their
sign
is
up,
I'll
hold
up.
The
time
is
up.
Sign
and
I.
H
Do
encourage
y'all
to
jot
down
your
questions
and
comments
that
you
have
and
wait
till
the
end
so
that
we
can
do
the
discussion.
Part
I
also
have
some
comment
cards.
If
you
want
to
make
sure
you
get
your
thoughts
in.
I
H
H
J
J
Jackson
and
I
will
share
a
bit
about
what
we've
been
working
on
and
you
all
will
jump
in.
We
have
worked
on
a
series
of
proposals
that
we
look
forward
to
Bringing
to
this
group.
So
key
one
around
black,
Recruitment
and
Retention
of
teachers
is
a
big
package
that
has
several
initiatives
within
it.
We
have
a
extend
proposals
around
expulsions
and.
J
Opportunities
with
the
community,
including
Freedom
Schools
summer
enrichment
programs,
Saturday
schools
and
the
replacement
of
community
for
youth.
We
have
a
conversation
starting
around
Community
engagement
events
to
bring
folks
into
not
only
review
the
proposals
but
to
get
continued
Community
feedback
regarding
the
needs
of
Youth
and
education
in
our
community.
J
It
is
not
lost
on
this
group,
The
Articles
and
the
data
coming
out
from
both
the
city
and
the
county
regarding
the
reading
rates
of
black
youth
in
our
communities,
with
11
of
black
youth
being
at
third
grade
literacy
as
compared
to
66
percent
of
black
youth
89
of
students
that
are
in
gifted
intelligent
programs
and
actual
City
schools
are
white.
We
know
that
not
89
of
gifted
students
white.
There
are
start
disparities
in
the
outcomes
of
black
youth,
as
well
as
the
opportunities
afforded
to
them,
and
that
is
what
this
group
is
working
on.
K
So,
essentially,
a
lot
of
what
we're
doing
is
already
in
front
of
you,
but
I
want
to
play
on
a
couple
of
key
things.
One
we've
had
people
come
to
our
IFA
meetings
and
they
share
their
input
of
so
far
from
proposals
that
we
have.
One
key
thing
that
was
shared
in
our
last
meeting
was
mother
with
children
was
listening
to
a
couple
of
our
proposals
and
had
given
us
some
feedback
that
these
are
all
great
ideas.
K
But
essentially
it's
gonna
transportation
is
needed,
but
if
you
work,
multiple
jobs-
and
you
can't
make
these
meetings
and
what
about
these
programs
that
you're
looking
to
actually
propose
and
start
doing,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
logistics,
that's
going
to
be
rewired
for
both
students
and
parents
to
attend.
So
that
to
me
was
very
important.
K
So
our
next
steps
are
we're
looking
to
Branch
out
to
the
other
ifas
so
that
we
can
discuss
one
how
to
remedy
the
issues
within
each
other
and
two
to
see
if
anything
else
comes
about
from
what
they've
heard
as
far
as
ways
that
we
need
to
kind
of
I,
guess,
revamp
or
rework
our
proposals
to
make
a
better
fit
for
Community
recommendations.
K
We've
heard
accountability
a
lot
within
our
meetings,
and
so
the
next
phase
for
us
is
to
into
the
community
so
that
we
are
accountable
to
see
that
we
have
our
proposals
but
we're
looking
at
what
about
the
community?
What
about
the
the
the
actual
committees
that
have
been
harmed
and
to
continue
to
get
harmed?
What
do
they
think
so?
K
Stevens
Lee
UNCA
ways
that
we
can
maybe
get
it
if
we're
not
going
to
be
given
their
data
to
within
our
proposals.
So
I
thought
those
were
three
key
initiatives
that
we're
also
working
on
right
now.
I
have
reached
out
to
other
ifas
and
we
do
look
to
start
to
come
together
and
Branch
out
to
those
for
input
we
tried
to
this
month.
It
didn't
really
work
out,
but
hopefully
next
month
we
can
get
to
most
of
our
other
IFA.
So
we
can
start
to
elaborate
on
some
of
our
ideas.
J
Yes,
to
assign
this
appointment
at
amplify
three
things,
as
you
said,
there
are
several
topics
that.
J
J
To
go
to
different
community
centers,
but
that
do
the
black
folks
have.
Perhaps
it
would
be
better
suited
if
all
of
the
resources
and
programming
that
we're
seeking
to
create
was
actually
in
one
place.
That
is
not
really
up
to
us
to
decide
as
a
group
alone,
but
it
is
something
that
we
repeatedly
get
feedback
from
both
in
our
meetings
and
outside
of
the
space.
This
co-location
of
resources
for
folks,
rather
than
putting
them
nestled
in
communities
that
folks
aren't
there.
J
Need
to
hold
the
private
sectors
like
for
our
group,
for
instance,
the
school
board
is
a
governing
body.
There's
limitations
to
what
the
government
is
able
to
dictate
within
those
spaces.
How
do
we
actually
hold
that
system
accountable
or
private
entities
accountable
to
enact
those
things
should
be
a
co-created
solution
from
this
group
based
upon
all
of
our
recommendations
and
efforts,
and
that's
something
that
we
look
forward
to
Bringing
to
individual
members.
G
To
emphasize
the
centralized
well
place
where
the
community
can
speak,
and
so.
I
G
Again,
as
Dr
lavender
and
Simon
said
that
that
has
come
up
on
more
than
one
occasion.
One
interesting
thing
that
occurred
in
one
of
our
last
meetings
is
that
there
was,
of
course,
there
are
community
members
who
are
able
to
come
in,
and
you
know,
give
their
input.
G
G
That
and
so
and
the
conversation
came
up
well,
maybe
those
we
can
do
it
to
get
bang
test
and
so
of
course,.
G
A
lot
of
people
will
qualify
and
still
would
not
allow
the
people
who
were
trying
to
reach
get
the
services
or
even
be
a
part
of
the
recruitment
package.
And
so
it's
been
very
interesting
and
and,
as
a
son
do
said,
we're
trying
to
reach
out
to
other
ifas
so
that
we
can
collaborate
better
on
how
we
come
up
with
reparations.
J
J
This
structural,
like
went
after
it
in
the
language,
we're
to
a
point,
I,
think
an
artwork
where
we
need
to
make
a
decision
about
how
it's
going
to
be
written
and
what
the
definitions
of
qualifications
will
be
and
look
to
this
group
for
being
co-collaborators
in
the
definition
sort
of
revisiting
is
this
called
reparations?
Is
it
called
something
else?
How
are
determinations
identified
when
there's
a
recruitment
of
black
teachers
who
counts
as
being
recruited
at
this
explain?
How
will
that
determination
be?
Are
all
definitions
that
we
look
forward
to
teasing.
J
N
Have
you
looked
at
what
parts
of
the
county
or
the
school
systems
in
the
county
that
you're
looking
at
you
know
when
the
schools
were
integrated,
they
did
not
when
the
zoning
was
done
by
the
city,
it
did
not
take
in
all
the
city,
students
that
lived
in
the
city
limits,
but
they
sent
them
to
the
county
schools.
N
G
Not
looked
at
that
specifically,
but
we
know
that
that
is
an
issue
and
so
I
think
the
thing
that
we're
doing
is
looking
at
the
demographics
of
all
the
both
of
the
school
systems
and
actually
the
charges
and
the
private
schools.
So
we
are
trying
to
get
those
demographics
too,
so
that
we
can
see
who's
where
what
the
percentages
look
like.
We
also
want
to.
K
Looking
at
that,
well,
one
thing
that
we
are
looking
in
can
jump,
even
though
we
haven't
directly
looked
at
that
we're
looking
at
the
teachers
for
those
students
within
those
schools.
So
one.
P
K
Recommendations
is
looking
at
essentially,
you
said
order
kind
of
manipulated
how
many
students
of
color
have
to
be
within
that
we're
looking
at
as
an
idea
of
well,
if
there's
one
for
students,
why
not?
Why
not?
So,
essentially
that
way,
even
though
they
may
be
sporadic
and
spread
out,
but
essentially
there's
enough
teachers
of
color
for
those
students,
they
can
help
them
impact,
but
we
will.
Let
me
thank
you
for
that
yeah.
J
The
school
board's
process
now
of
recruiting
and
being
superintendent
because
remember
I,
think
we've
had
five
superintendents
in
the
last
five
to
six
years,
we're
in
direct
communication
with
the
Asheville
City
School,
Board
and
they're.
Some.
J
The
listener
that
we
have
and
people
are
able
to
attend
our
meetings.
What
we're
looking
to
do
is
actually
code
meeting
with
National
City
Schools
board
and
London
County
School
Board,
to
ensure
that
when
we
present
our
recommendations,
we
present
them
to
each
other.
At
the
same
time,
I
think
to
just
say
something
extra
is
you'll
have
to
be
Community
Action.
J
There'll
have
to
be
some
sort
of
support
for
this
because,
again,
The
Entity,
that's
responsible
for
enacting
and
saying
what
happens
in
schools
are
the
school?
Is
the
school
board
and
so
we'll
be
looking
to
this
group
and
other
community
engagement
groups
ensure
that
their
support,
and
not
only
understanding
of
the
recommendations,
lobbying
for
those
recommendations
and
further
support,
but.
C
D
I'm
curious
around
suspension
and
expulsions.
Did
you
look
at
the
data
of
the
SRO
program
and
how
that
impacts,
especially
African-American
young
males
in
particular,
and
that
we
picked
up
that
tagline
from
you
know
from
school
to
the
prison
pipeline?
So
I'm
curious,
as
did
you
look
at
the
SRO
program
and
how
it
fits
into
discipline.
K
Part
of
it,
but
that
is
part
of
the
reason
why
that
stopped
the
harm
is
one
of
our
top
tiers
for
what
we're
looking
to
do
so.
Mr
Gordon
who's,
not
here
yet
hasn't
mentioned
that,
and
that
is
a
part
of
our
recommendation
for
inclusivity
and
also
working
with
them
so
that
it
first
addresses,
but
stops
that
harm
it
revamps
the
whole
process.
J
Truly
and
index
Advocates,
so
we
looked
at
just
the
data
of
the
insulin
out
of
school
suspension,
as
well
as
the
research,
evidence-based
reforms
and
research
that
was
support
and
mitigate
those
harms
and
then
produce
a
set
of
proposals
that
include
all
of
those
evidence-based
Solutions
which
includes
family
advocates.
Family
know
your
rights,
Community
Support,
as
well
as
tracking
systems,
and
then
we
have
to
understand
that
when
you
create
tracking
system,
you
have
to
have
a
way
to
hold
those
systems
accountable
and
that's
again,
where
we
come
back
to
this
accountability.
A
I
might
have
asked
this
person
for
sure
before
but
I'm
not
for
sure
have
you
found
out
the
percentage
from
the
city
school
and
the
county
school
of
african-americ
teachers
and
what?
What
was.
Q
J
J
And
black,
but
we
have
had
the
school
district
HR
team
who
speak
to
us.
We
have
heard
testimony
or
lived
experience
from
folks
who
are
in
that
system
who
have
talked
about
the
out,
either
as
teachers
or
as
IH,
trying
to
get
their
teaching
credentials
and
the
barriers
that
exist
education
and
getting
that
job.
We
do
know
that
retention
issues
for
black
teachers
increasingly
are
difficult
in
part
because
you
have
to
it's
sort
of
the
is
like
your
integrating
school
buildings
all
the
time
and
all
of
that
living
experience.
B
C
G
G
G
That
would
take
a
little
longer,
maybe
the
latent
Latin
policy
or
in
areas
that
would
take
us
a
lot
more
time,
whether
it's
at
the
local
level
or
whether
they
might
be
impacted
by
state
or
national
laws
or
regulations,
and
so
some
of
the
recommendations
in
this
first
category
and
again
I'm
looking
at
this
here
in
your
packet,
is
that
we're
talking
about
free
access
to
health
insurance
for
African
Americans.
We
know
in
Buncombe
County
about
11
of
individuals
are
uninsured.
G
We're
working
with
additional
data
requests
around
some
of
this
information,
so
that
we
can
get
more
specifics
about
specifically
how
many
African
Americans
are
uninsured
in
Buffalo
County,
the
creating
of
non-punitive
access
to
substance
abuse
treatment.
We
hear
all
the
time
that
it's
a
critical
need
for
substance,
abuse,
treatment
and
resources
here.
G
If
we
see
what
the
need
is
and
how
where's
the
disparities
and
the
differences
between
what
the
need
is
and
what's
actually
happening,
then
critical
needs
of
needs
right:
the
lack
of
resources,
around
suicide
rates
and
again,
how
is
that
impacting
the
black
community
here
so
again,
a
lot
of
our
information,
as
we
were
just
throwing
out
a
lot
of
these
recommendations.
We
need
to
go
back
and
and
do
a
deeper
dive
into
what
the
stats
look
like
to
support.
G
These
requests:
identifying
African-American,
African
Americans
here
in
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County
with
chronic
Health
diseases,
and
what
do
the
percentages
look
like,
which
are
the
top
three
to
five
of
those
and
then
being
able
to
look
at
what
resources
are
needed
to
support
healing
of
from
those
chronic
illnesses
and
the
care
needed
to
to
address
those
access
to
dental
care
insurance
again,
the
same
thing,
something
that's
critical
here
is
Dental
Dental
Care,
the
lack
thereof
for
many
different
populations,
but
specifically,
what
is
it
for
the
African-American
Community?
G
Where
is
it
lacking
and
then
Medicaid
Medicare
reforms
and
this
you'll
see
the
little
metrics
where
the
first
several
of
those
we've
had
an
exercise
where
the
Commissioners
decided
to
put
dots
where
they
felt
in
these
timelines?
What
what
were
the
most
critical
so
the
first
several
of
those
we
have
yellow
dots.
What
we're
talking
about
short-term
implementation?
It
would
be
great
to
see
that
in
the
shorter
term
and
then
again
toward
the
end.
G
When
you're
talking
about
reforms,
which
we
know
we're
talking
about
policy
initiatives,
we
may
be
talking
about
local
and
state
and
National
policy,
understanding
that
that's
going
to
be
a
deeper
dive,
a
heavy
lift
to
impact
some
of
those
changes.
So
we
got
this
in
all
the
categories.
So
when
we
look
at
the
other
seven
categories
of
recommendations,
we
also
have
ranked
them
that
way
and
so
we'll
end
up
clustering.
G
All
of
those
so
we're
looking
at
the
critical,
the
ones
that
the
group
has
decided
to
prioritize
first
and
then
to
those
that
they
take
a
much
longer
time
to
affect
some
change
that
are
still
worthy
of
us.
You've
got
to
start
somewhere,
so
we're
interested
in
doing
that.
One
of
the
things
that
you'll
also
see-
and
we
are
excited
about
this-
the
the
event
that
took
place
on
Saturday
and
I'm-
excited
that
most
of
the
Commissioners.
O
C
G
They're
going
to
speak
to
some
of
this,
but
we
were
able
to
have
the
first
IFA
joint
partnership
with
the
racial
Justice
Coalition,
as
well
as
the
Center
for
participatory
change
and
sponsored
great
food,
Child
Care
caucusing
people
able
to
come
together
and
talk
about
what
we
felt
was
an
opportunity
that
the
public
wanted.
We
had
requests
from
different
groups
about.
Can
we
work
together?
Can
we
go
out
into
the
community
and
have
folks
weigh
in
on
what
health
involvement
is
doing.
B
Hello,
everyone
I'm
meeting
with
RJC
was
very
informative.
We
were
so
glad
to
see
so
many
people
there
and
we
had
youth
there
also
and
they
spoke,
which
was
very
good
I.
Think
one
of
the
young
ladies
also
spoke
to
us
when
who
we
had
our
meeting
in
February,
and
she
talked
about
her
experience
and
her
experience
and
what
had
happened
to
her.
She
was
bullied
and
then
her
parents
had
to
put
her
in
another
school.
So
this
is
I
think
is
common
in
the
school
today.
B
So
this
is
an
issue
that
we
want
to
consider.
You
know
with
with
the
way
we
are
doing
it
doing
things,
and
how
can
we
help
these
young
people
better
than
school
because
they're
there
to
learn
not
to
be
bullish?
One
of
the
things
that
happened
also
after
being
a
gentleman
mentioned
that
he
was
having
a
time
getting
adopted
in
Asheville.
He
could
go
to
his
home
and
get
a
doctor,
but
he
couldn't
find
one
in
Asheville
and
I.
B
Think
that
is
so
important
that
we
all
need
a
doctor
and
we
need
them,
especially
when
you
have
a
crisis.
That's
the
one
thing
you
need
adopt
that
you
feel
comfortable
with
a
doctor.
You
can
go
to
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we'll
be
looking
at,
what's
happening
in
Asheville,
that
you
don't
have
your
own
private
doctor
and
it's
not
always
due
to
the
funds.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
A
Q
A
We
had
a
Health
Center
at
the
high
school
astronaut
Ashley
well
at
our
meeting
here
with
rgc
on
February
25th.
One
of
the
students
was
there
because
she's
graduating
her
own
business,
LSU
and
everything,
and
she
brought
up
something
that
was
really
how
she
was
running
from
a
domestic
violence
thing,
and
it
was
just
that
is
such
a
thing
that
health
and
wellness
you
know
we
are
also
looking
into
I
personally,
would
like
to
look
into
it
and,
as
a
personal
experience,
my
sister
Baltimore
as
well.
A
E
A
But
you
know
and
trying
to
get
young
people
to
understand
when
you
get
into
domestic
situation.
This
is
the
health
and
wellness
thing
you
know:
try
not
to
bring
your
ex-partner
back
into
that
situation
because
it
starts
all
over
again
it's
another.
It's
another
cycle
and
I
personally
would
love
to
have
another
health
and
wellness
thing.
You
know
and
I
think
the
education
people
said
they
wanted
hours
with
us
too,
but
also
I
would
love
to
hear
about
other
groups.
You
know
we
have
in
another
event
as
well.
A
All
right,
I'm,
looking
for
it
and
I,
do
want
to
say
this
I'm
kind
of
really
enjoying
this
year.
2023
things
are
looking
better
up
more
with,
like
there's
only
four
of
us,
but
we're
rocking
it
we're
still
waiting
on
our
day
data
information,
but
we
are
still
doing
work
much
better
doing
better
without
it
just
as
well.
So
thank
you.
G
Because
her
feel
she's
on
faculty
at
UNC
and
they
had
and
one
of
the
things
that's
exciting
about
having
somebody
who's
doing
this
24
7
is
the
fact
that,
when
we
get
into
the
accountability
discussion,
Dr
lavender
also
talked
about
it.
It's
a
little
interesting
for
health
and
wellness,
because
who
are
the
accountability
Partners
in
Buncombe
County
that
we
would
go
in
front
of?
Would
it
be
Mayhem?
I
I
City
and
county
can't
really
necessarily
provide
health
insurance.
So
what
are
some
ways
we
can
get
around
that
and
I
want
us
all
to
think
about
and
to
work
together
around
ways.
We
can
leverage
City
kind
of
influence
in
different
ways
to
work
with
these
bigger
systems.
So
maybe
there's
certain
programs
or
contracts
that
city
and
county
have
with
health
systems
or
other
entities
with
our
ifas
in
ways
that
we
can
work
with
that
to
incentivize
certain
behavior
that
we
want.
G
A
couple
of
additional
things
with
the
February
25th
event,
one
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
so
much
to
all
the
Commissioners
we
have
several
guest
Commissioners
come
in,
and
that
was
great.
The
fact
that
there
were
also
some
things
that
we're
now
adding
to
our
list
to
be
incorporated
for
us.
Further
discussion
like
Dwayne
was
great
and
talking
about
what
about
growing
spaces.
What
about
environmental
factors
that
would
affect
health
and
wellness?
Can
you
grow
your
own
fruits
and
vegetables?
G
Are
you
able
to
have
Community
Gardens,
some
things
that
we
just
weren't
thinking
about
directly,
so
it
was
great
to
have
that
input.
We
are
looking
forward,
hopefully
to
having
some
additional
ones.
Thank
you,
Dr,
lavender
and
others
in
education,
because
they
are
saying
yes,
we
meet
sometimes
at
the
same
time,
let's
go
together
and
have
a
continued
conversation
about
this,
so
we're
looking
forward
to
doing
that
to
again
open
those
up
and
I
I
have
to
keep
saying
thank
you
to
RJC
and
CLC
amazing
Partners.
G
G
We're
just
really
excited
to
be
able
to
have
had
this
opportunity
to
come
together
on
a
cold
rainy
Saturday
and
have
the
room
full
of
people
talking
about
what
this
could
look
like
with
reparations
in
Buncombe
County
around
health
and
wellness,
so
I'm
just
extremely
grateful
and
looking
forward
to
a
larger,
even
we're
going
to
grow
out
of
that
Goodwill,
Goodwill
I'm,
sorry,
United,
Way
we've
already
been
talking
about
having
it
at
Goodwill
or
other
places.
If
we
need
a
larger
space
because
we
were
actually
kind
of
wall-to-wall,
basically
so.
P
Just
really
quickly,
I
have
three
considerations,
one
well.
This
isn't
one
I
do
first,
I
want
to
say
you
all
are
doing
a
great
job
continue
to
do
the
work
that
you're
doing
my
first
consideration
is:
have
you
all
had
any
conversations
about
access
to
Mental,
Health
Care
two
would
be
a
cross-focused
area
with
education
on
mental
health
and
then
three,
you
all
mentioned
domestic
violence
across
Focus
area
with
criminal
justice
and
housing.
R
I'd
just
like
to
ask
if
any
consideration
has
been
paid
to
the
lack
of
financial
and
other
resources
as
a
stress,
a
stressor,
the
social
determinants
of
health
and
the
lack
of
resources
are
preeminent
way
before
folks
get
sick.
They
get
made
Sick
by
by
lack,
is
that's
the
social
determinants
of
health.
Is
that
an
overarching
principle
with
your
group
and.
C
G
What's
housing
again
healthy
fruits
and
vegetables,
environmental
factors
where
what
is
healthy
and
healthy
multiplied?
All
of
these
social
determs
of
Health.
G
Of
being
from
where
I
work,
health
is
all
about
social
determinants
of
health
and
the
healthy
opportunities
pilot
with
Medicaid
transformations
in
North
Carolina.
But
we
also
have
a
great
gallery
of
supporters
that
are
organization,
health
care
for
all
things
weekend
on
Saturday.
They
come
generally
on
a
regular
basis
to
help
talk
about
the
events
for
people
coming
together,
all
throughout
the
day
around.
How
do
we
look
at
the
expansion
of
Medicaid
and
Medicare
to
specifically
reach
out
and
provide
services
to
those
who
need
it
and
those
who
are
uninsured
or
even
underinsured?
G
Thank
you.
We
would
like
to
ask
if
yeah
I
could
stay
up
there.
We
should
have
let
education
do
stay
up
there
as
well,
because
now
we're
going
to
open
it
up
for
questions.
If
you,
if
you
wrote
any
questions
down,
if
you
have
any
further
questions
from
this
group,
you
want
to
allow
time
for
people
to
learn
to
answer
questions.
S
And
it
really
just
comments
I'm
becoming
increasingly
aware
of
what
I
need
to
think
about
funding.
We
have
things
that
we
want
to
accomplish,
and
obviously
they're
going
to
take
dollars
to
get
it
done
so
I'm
wondering
to
with
the
education
group
what
type
of
federal
funds
can
they
research
and
and
become
aware
of
they
can
be
available
with
the
qualifications,
would
be
for
a
group
of
this
nature
to
to
receive
some
of
that
funding
towards
our
goals
and
second,
North
Carolina
has
a
lottery
that
they
constantly
tout
as
the
Education
Lottery.
S
And
yes,
and
like
I
said
I,
don't
know
if
that's
feasible,
but
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
there's
Federal
funding
for
a
body
of
this
nature,
something
that
that
could
could
be
brought
to
bear
to
help
towards
the
funding
of
your
recommendations,
things
of
that
nature
and
and
essentially
the
same
type
of
thought
using
the
North
Carolina
Education
Lottery.
S
It
seems
right
now
that
one
of
the
biggest
benefactors
of
the
North
Carolina
Education
Lottery
is
law
enforcement
and
it
seems
inappropriate,
and
so
if
there
was
a
way
that
some
of
that
funding
could
be
procured
for
the
education
aspect
of
this.
J
J
J
S
Result
no,
the
way
that,
when
the
lottery
was.
M
J
L
E
I
do
have
a
question.
I
was
looking
at
the
key
harms
addressed
in
your
presentation
and
it
touched
on
segregation
and
desegregation
of
public
schools.
Order
of
1972
and
1991..
Is
that
just
data
because
that's
not
really
when
the
schools
were
segregated,
I,
don't
call
it
desegregated
and
they
were
segregated
all
the
way
up
until
maybe
the
very
early
60s.
So
I
was
wondering
what
that
Gap,
because
by
72
that
was
all
wrong.
E
So
I
was
trying
to
understand
because
the
most
harm
came
in
the
60s
when
they
actually
did
the
desegregation
on
the
school
system.
I'm,
not
a
data
person
I,
don't
think
I'm
a
person
I
was
there
I'm.
Just
speaking
on,
you
know
what
I
remember
what
I
know
from
the
50s
and
60s
but
I
think
that's
a
I,
don't
know
a
lesson
as
a
public
school's
order
that
states
that
1972
and
1991
was
part
of
that
desegregation
process
that
had
already
gone.
We
had
already
finished
with
the
riot
of
69.
E
J
Something
from
something
I
mean,
as
you
all
know,
we
were
charged
with
documenting
the
harm
and
linking
our
record
stations
to
the
harm.
So
it's
sort
of
create
a
delineation
of
recommendations.
I'll
say
that
the
one
of
the
schools
of
thought
that
I'm,
a
part
of
is
that
from
the
recommendations,
I'd
rather
choose
the
the
pin
piece
of
harm
that
has
the
strongest
amount
of
data
and
proves
that
shows
the
trajectory
to
to
bolster
the
recommendations
that
are
failed
to
say
that
I'm.
Not
this,
isn't
the
hill
I'm
sitting
on.
Regarding
these.
J
But
you
know
the
could
be
said
that
the
fact
that
the
Asheville
City
Schools
was
reforced
to
decide
to
desegregate
because
they
did
not
do
it
in
all
deliberate
speed
is
the
central
harm
that
they
had
to
do
it
so
quickly
because
they
did
not
follow
the
federal
order,
is
the
site
of
or
the
start
of,
the
violence
that
ensued
on
black
youth
after,
but
that's
just
a
conversation
that
we've
been
having
as
a
group,
the
fact
that
they
didn't
follow
the
federal
legislation
and
then
were
charged
to
do
this
twice
were
found
to
not
be
in
compliant
and
then
have
to
do
it
twice
and
then
each
time
the
way
they
enacted
the
policy
was
haphazard
and
or
not,
and
iteration
of
what
was
best
for
black
youth
remains
to
be
seen.
I
J
L
E
I
do
kind
of
understand
that,
as
as
the
way
you
put
that
and
just
with
the
Insight
of
with
that
was
still
redlining
going
on,
but
they
were
actually
moving
if
they
had
too
many
African-Americans
in
one
school,
especially
in
the
county.
There
were
red
line,
just
draw
a
line
straight
down
the
street
and
say
this
side
go
here,
and
that
was
and
the
other
side
was.
E
You
know
it's
grim
and
the
other
side
you
go
here,
because
there
were
too
many
African-Americans
in
this
one
school
system,
and
so
that
was
how
they
divided
the
line,
so
they
separated
families
and
communities.
So
I
think
it's
a
very
hot
topic
that
we
could
really
in
delve
in
as
far
as
housing,
education.
All
of
those
things,
I.
J
Appreciate
that
and
that's
a
great
point,
I'll
say
we
looked,
we
did
look
into
right,
we
did
talk
about
the
housing,
I
mean
the
desegregation
order
and
what
that
would
take
to
live
and
I'm
not
going
to
say
this
perfectly,
but
I
think
I'm
going
to
use
an
interpretation
to
say
that
at
this
point
this
is
has
to
go
to
this.
It's
Federal,
the
state
or
federal,
so
it
would
be
deciding
to
say,
are.
I
A
J
R
That
was
Institute
by
James
Ferguson
and
then
the
city
of
Asheville
paid
a
pivotal
Point.
They
had
a
youth
leadership,
youth
Leadership
Council
that
desegregated
the
Asheville
City
schools,
and
that
was
in
1969-70
I
do
believe,
and
it
was
done
by
a
woman
who
I
interviewed
named
Leslie
Anderson,
who
was
a
consultant
in
this
city
right
now,
who
was
also
a
downtown
development
director
for
the
city
of
Asheville
and
throughout
the
city
of
Asheville
back.
She
can
give
you
a
lot
of
first-hand
information
on
that.
H
All
right
we're
actually
going
to
have
the
audit
scope
working
group,
which
is
a
subgroup
of
the
commission
that
got
together
about
three
times
virtually
to
develop
a
scope
to
to
respond
to
the
immediate
recommendations.
So,
as
is
as
the
four
of
y'all
are
making
your
way
to
the
podium.
If
you
could
actually
have
y'all
present
from
the
podium,
we
have.
The
scope
in
your
packets
and
y'all
can
follow
along.
K
K
Wins
essentially
us
for,
along
with
County
and
City
reps
Mr
DeVilles
Miss
DK,
both
Miss
Rachel
Wood,
Miss,
Rachel,
nikar
Christina,
her
team.
We
met
three
times
to
essentially
look
over
the
scope
of
this
work.
We
did
decide
in
our
last
meeting
that
we
didn't
want
to
go
and
paraphrase,
what's
already
in
front
of
you,
so
essentially
I
thought
that
it
was
kind
of
hit
some
certain
marks
about
the
way
that
the
the
group
kind
of
went
about
it.
K
So
we
took
three
meetings:
the
first
one
we
really
just
went
and
kind
of
dissected.
The
the
scope
of
work
of
woods
was
suggested
and
proposed
as
far
as
what
the
audit
should
look
like.
That
was
a
good
meeting.
It
was
a
lot
of
questions.
I
know
myself
for
this
about
that,
because
we
talked,
we
learned
a
lot
about
the
jargon
essentially
of
what's
in
the
paperwork.
K
As
far
as
wording
for
the
documents
we
learned
about
the
rfps
and
what
the
proposals
are-
and
we
kind
of
just
in
general
learned
some
some
good
information
about
what
an
audit
entails
details
in
that
nature,
the
second
being
we
kind
of
had
we
more
or
less
looked
at
broadening
in
MSD
I
know
she
will
speak
on
it
too.
We
essentially
looked
at
breaking
it
down
of
what
do
we
want
and
what
we
not
want
within
the
actual
audit.
K
There's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
what
should
be
included,
but
essentially
I
think
we
all
agreed,
or
we
did
agree.
We
came
to
it
that,
while
it
is
a
good
proposal,
the
lengthier
and
the
more
stuff
that
we
put
into
it,
the
bigger
the
harm
but
I'm
not
accepting
it
or
would
not
receive
the
information
back
from
the
actual
scope.
K
Before
at
the
third
meeting,
we
essentially
finalized
with
all
the
edits
of
what
was
shared
from
both
city
and
county
and
from
us
recommendations
from
Dr
Mullen,
essentially
broke
it
down
and
ended
with
this
Frame
of
work.
That's
in
front
of
you,
one
piece
of
measure-
that's
very
important,
is
that
this
has
never
been
done
within
the
city
or
the
county.
So,
while
there's
plenty
of
audits
that
have
happened,
this
scope
of
work
has
actually
never
been
has
never
been
completed.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
questions.
M
Q
R
Is
one
that
looks
at
tangible
outcomes
Based
on
data?
One
of
the
things
that
we
know
from
performance
audits
is:
there
have
not
been
a
lot
of
them
around
here.
My
experience
has
been
with
the
inspectors
generals
of
governments.
That
is
why
it
was
so
compelling
for
me
most
people
a
lot
of
times
their
localities
and
municipalities
there's
a
lot
of
politics
that
go
on
and
not
a
lot
of
tangible
results.
You
will
find
a
lot
of
times
in
a
business
or
environment.
That
performance
is
key,
especially
when
dollars
are
concerned.
R
R
We
have
a
lot
of
very
good
service
providers,
but
one
of
the
things
you
have
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
we
have
to
separate
the
personal
from
the
professional
and,
if,
when
you
don't
do
that,
that
means
that
people
who
are
the
most
vulnerable
people
always
get
hurt
when
performance
metrics
are
not
actually
the
goal
that
that's
strive
for.
So
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
take
a
look
at
the
the
policies,
the
programs
and
how
how
strictly
these
things
have
been
adhered
to
by.
R
We
looking
at
the
municipal
governments,
we're
also
looking
at
the
sub-recipients
and
ngos
and
non-governmental
organizations
that
are
awarded
contracts,
because
that
is
not
the
business
of
governments
oftentimes
to
go
into
the
community
and
and
render
these
services.
So
then
it
comes
down
to
these
awardees
who
are
provided
taxpayer
funds.
R
That
is
basically
what
has
been
some
of
our
goals
throughout.
This
is
start
delivering
tangible
results,
because
we've
had
many
programs
over
30
years
from
cdb
funding
to
outright
utilization
of
city
and
county
funds,
but
the
harm
still
perpetuates
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
it
has
been
exacerbated
and
we've
never
been
worse
off.
As
a
people
I
know,
I
can
speak
for
black
people.
I've,
never
seen
it
this
bad
here
before
so
these
programs,
even
though
they're
well
intended,
are
not
working
and
with
that
out
cease.
Thank
you.
R
E
So,
with
the
help
of
Christine
and
the
city
in
the
county,
we
were
able
to
get
through
this
I
don't
feel
like
it's
as
complicated
and
as
complex
as
people
make
their
gains.
It
is
an
audit
and
it's
things
that
we're
asking
when
we
start
to
review
for
someone
to
do
the
audit
process.
These
are
things
that
we're
going
to
ask
for.
So
as
far
as
two
minutes,
okay,
speed
talk.
Okay,
so
yeah
start
the
speed
talk.
E
We
realize
that
if
they're
Professionals
in
an
audience
they're
going
to
delve
into
all
these
other
things
and
they're
going
to
come
up
with
things
that
we
may
not
have
seen,
but
we
will
also
know
what
what
might
be
missing
pieces
that
we
can
work
together
with,
but
it
would
still
be
I.
Think
I
do
believe
that
it's
going
to
be
a
plus
I
mean
I.
Don't
think
that
it's
anything
that's
going
to
be
harmful,
I
think
that
the
city
and
the
county
have
done
what
they
needed
to
do
and
they've.
E
Given
us
this
opportunity
to
open
up
the
door
for
us
to
gain
more
than
what
we've
known
I
can't
speak
for
all
the
black
people.
I
can
only
speak
for
myself
and
I
think
that
it's
a
pleasure
for
me
to
be
in
this
space
and
time
and
to
speak
and
to
let
you
know
that
Santo
and
I.
We
were
like
dead
on
it
and
we
were
asking
questions
because
we
made
Mr
offer
he
came
in
when
he
could
get
in
and
and
Dean
was
on
the
road
all
the
time.
E
So
most
of
the
things
that
she
missed
that
what
we
learned
she
just
wrote
it
in
or
she
wouldn't
send
in
an
email,
but
I
think
that
if
you
look
over
this
scope
of
work-
and
if
you
look
at
all
the
things,
it's
not
that
complicated,
we
have
not
delved
into
a
lot
of
specifics,
because
that's
not
what
we're
going
to
do
with
an
artist.
That's
not!
This
is
only
the
first
step
for
an
end
you
to
get
ready
for
the
audit
review.
T
Are
people
from
this
community
been
benefiting
from
this
development
from
from
the
south
side
of
the
Shiloh
to
Burton
Street?
There's
a
number.
E
Of
focus
well,
I
do
believe
that
that
is
going
to
be
a
focus.
The
focus
it's
not
going
to
win
an
audit.
What
they're
going
to
do
is
to
look
at
the
projection
of
the
data
that
they
received.
Now,
if
you
want
to
get
down
to
the
different
communities
and
if
you
look
as
African
American
community,
that
brings
a
whole
broad
picture.
But
if
you
look
on
page
two,
they
will
be
focusing
on
criminal
justice,
Economic,
Development,
Education,
Health
and
Wellness
and
housing.
K
Essentially,
like
I
think
Mrs,
Dwayne
and
answering
your
question
is
that
what
you're
wanting
to
do
is
going
to
be
what
we
gather
from
the
essential
product?
Once
we
get
the
information
and
the
data
that's
collected
from
the
scope
of
one
of
the
institutions,
the
entities
who
are
being
audited
and
the
people.
One
of
the
questions
that
we
asked
and
I
hope,
I'm.
I
K
R
Just
very
briefly,
one
of
the
things
that
we
know
is
the
tax
dollars
have
been
expended
over
the
years
to
not
only
the
city
to
Institute
programs,
but
also
to
contract
factors
that
have
been
hired
and
non-profits
and
other
organizations
who
say
that
they
serve
the
African-American
Community.
There's
going
to
be
some,
some
have
to
be
some
tangible
results
showing
from.
R
Data
says
we
have
not
been
served,
we
have
not
been
so.
There
needs
to
be
a
disruption
in
that
process
and
the
only
way
to
properly
disrupt
that
and
hold
accountability.
Folks,
accountable
or
organizations
is
to
use
data
and
to
use
those
contracts
and
I
know
that
some
of
these
organizations
have
been
around
30
years
or
longer
and
they
perpetua
they
are
for
funded
and
perpetuity.
R
H
Just
to
give
you
all
sort
of
the
next
steps
now
that
the
scope
of
work
has
been
developed
and
I
really
do
want
to
commend
this
group
for
coming
together
and
just
taking
this
recommendation
and
really
just
lead
it
by
example,
in
terms
of
implementing.
So
what
does
implementation
look
like?
So
I
really
do
hope
that
that
is
an
example
of
how
we
can
take
all
of
the
rest
of
our
recommendations
and
just
start
to
put
the
pieces
together.
So
thank
y'all
for
doing
that.
H
So
the
next
steps
are
going
to
be
to
put
this
scope
of
work
in
an
actual
request
for
proposal
document
and
that
will
be
published
early
spring
2023.
We
know
that
we
want
to
move
quickly
on
this,
because
it
was
an
immediate
recommendation
and
this
subgroup
is
also
going
to
be
a
part
of
the
evaluation
Committee
in
looking
at
the
vendor.
Who
does
come
on
to
do
the
audit
so.
H
J
So
I
would
like
to
introduce
our
presenter.
B
A
L
G
H
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
that's
30
minutes,
that's
30
minutes
and
we
might
have
a
little
time
left
over
for
her
q
a
as
well.
This
is
one
of
the
last
parts
of
the
agenda,
so
you'll
be
good
to
go.
I'll
make
sure
you're
welcome.
So
how
about
we?
G
So
I
first
want
to
start
out
by
giving
honor
to
God
it's
the
reason
that
I
stand
here,
honor
to
my
ancestors,
who's
back
I
stand
on,
and
especially
those
who
are
impacted,
negative
negatively
by
the
implementation
of
urban
viewers.
H
Set
the
time
for
20
minutes
and
I'll,
give
you
a
two-minute
warning
and
then,
if
we
have
time
left,
we
can
keep
going,
but
then
we'll
have
10
minutes
also
for
a
q,
a.
G
If
I
may
say
it,
I,
don't
know
how
to
say
this,
but
I
don't
think
that's
fair!
First
of
all,.
H
I'll
set
it
for
30
minutes.
Thank
you
and
so
2009
I
started
my
research
as
a
student
at
Montreal.
G
College
Dr
messinio
and
Dr
Lee
and
I
have
been
working
together
for
over
10
years
built
the
website.
The
website
is
created
to
be
a
voice,
communities
to
provide
knowledge
and
promotional
understanding
and
I
would
like
to
thank
the
preservation
Society
of
Ashley
sponsoring
the
building
of
the
website.
G
The
research
have
you
can
just
go
and
if
you
hover
around
on
some
of
these
documents
that
you
need,
it
will
bring
up
the
actual
content
or
the
video.
So
the
possible
wrote
the
video.
If
you
click
on
the
crossroads,
the
crossroads.
You
actually
can
open
the
pages
and
read
and
I
previously
passed
out
some
of
the
hard
copies
I
have
about
14
to
15
here
tonight.
If
others
would
like
copies,
who
didn't
get
them:
okay,
Dr
Lee.
Let's
move
on
to
the
gallery!
Tab.
G
We
tab
includes
those
who
lived
on
the
South
Side,
this
beautiful
young
lady
in
the
pink
is
my
grandmother
and
if
you
hover
over,
it
gives
information
on
the
pictures.
Okay,
can
we
move
on
to
the
data.
G
A
dream
that
I
had
I,
wanted
to
remap
the
community
and
connect
the
families
and
the
faces,
so
we
wouldn't
just
be
looking
at
parcels.
We
have
two
different
categories:
we
have
a
remapping
and
then
we
have
the
economic
side
and
we'll
hear
more
about
that
collaborators,
collaborators,
the
team
and
there
you'll
find
the
different
credentials.
G
Okay,
we
can
move
on
to
the
reparations,
we're
moving
pretty
fast
here,
the
reparation
tab,
the
different
I
guess
Publications
and
if
you
click
on
them,
it'll
open
those
up,
and
this
doesn't
publication
information
for
both
the
local
and
National.
Okay,
we
move
on
to
the
blog.
G
Okay,
we
move
on
to
the
second
gallery.
The
second
Gallery
is
inclusive
of
the
whole
Asheville
Community
Professor
Festival,
he's
retired
from
UNCA.
He
had
his
class
to
come
to
the
ymi
culture
center,
where
we
collected
stories
from
some
of
the
elders,
it's
okay
and
let's
move
on
to
the
contact.
The.
U
So
can
you
can
yes?
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
introducing
me
I
want
to
introduce
our
Matt
briefly
in
this
lab.
We
collaboratively
built
this
map
and
there
are
four
important
functions
in
this
map.
The
number
one
is
searchability.
You
can
search
based
on
person,
name
or
switching
to
search
for
any
Parcels
that
were
acquired
by
the
Housing
Authority
in
the
60s
and
70s.
So,
for
example,
if
I
write
down
Robinson
here,
you
can
see
all
the
parcels
that
has
Robin's
name
here,
not
only
the
owners
but
also
the
tenants
here.
U
U
C
U
Businesses
that
were
present
present
in
the
past
in
the
60s
remove
that
you
see
there
are
clickable
Parcels.
These
are
basically
all
the
parcels
that
are
acquired
during
the
60s
and
70s,
removing
that
you
can
see
the
urban
renewer
map
during
the
60s
that
was
used
as
part
of
the
planning
and
then,
if
I,
remove
that
you
see
the
current
on
my
maps
here
so
by
clicking
on
and
off
for
these
different
layers,
you
can
see
the
past
and
present
at
the
same
time.
U
The
third
important
function
is
the
ability
to
see
the
acquisition
processes
entirely.
So
if
you
look
at
the
bottom
of
the
website,
there
is
a
year
for
now
it's
1964
and
if
I
increase
the
years,
you
can
see
the
color
coding
change,
which
means
that
it
shows
basically
the
process
of
acquisition
processes.
And
then,
if
you
see
on
the
right,
you
know
at
the
same
time
in
that
year
you
can.
U
You
can
see
the
number
of
number
of
parcels
that
are
appraised
or
decided
or
whether
you
know
how
many
Parcels
were
were
done
with
the
transform
team
right.
So
you
can
see
all
this
kind
of
analytics
by
moving
the
ear
bar
in
the
at
the
bottom
and
then
finally,
at
the
at
the
parcel
level,
you
can
see
all
the
necessary
information
about
operator
processes.
U
G
I
want
to
do
is
to
bring
it
right
in
this
room.
We
have
many
reparation
commission
members
who
work
the
families
who
are
impacted
by
the
implementation
of
urban
renewal
and
so
Dr
Lee.
Would
you
bring
the
pain.
U
Yeah,
could
you
say
the
name
one
more
time:
Haines
h-a-y-n-e-s.
G
C
G
H,
a
okay!
So
if
you
look
we're
not
going
to
click
into
the
parcels
this
time,
but
if
you
look
at
the
o'hanan
family,
they
own
two,
four
six,
eight
homes
on
the
south
side
and
so
that
family,
the
Old
Hammond
family,
lost
a
lot
of
wealth.
Generational
wealth,
okay,
let's
click
on
last
name:
Nance,
n-a-n-c-e,.
G
Okay,
this
is
Tommy
Lee
and
Miss
Lena
Nance,
their
property
was
acquisition
and
if
you
look
at
the
information,
whenever
you
see
Court
award,
that
means
they
fought.
They
found
trying
to
save
their
property,
but
they
didn't
win.
The
transfer
of
deed
happened
and
they
were
given
three
thousand
dollars
for
their
property,
but
they
were
able
to
re-pers
repurchase,
a
home
in
the
community
and
the
relative.
The
daughter
still
lives
in
the
home.
Currently.
G
V
V
Okay,
wonderful,
so
it's
my
honor
and
privilege
to
participate
tonight
and
our
goal
is
to
share
some
of
the
data
findings
with
the
Commission.
In
addition
to
Priscilla
and
young
I
would
quickly
like
to
acknowledge
a
number
of
collaborators
who
took
part
in
a
second
study:
Ray
McCoy
Mark,
Conrad,
Rosie,
Grant,
Alexis,
Hill,
Philip,
Nicholas,
Noah,
shear
and
Alan
weirdak,
located
from
Minnesota
West
Virginia
California
to
Maryland.
V
So
these
are
some
of
the
research
questions
we
asked
with
input
from
some
some
of
the
community
members
questions
about
who,
how
much
which
and
when
so
I'm
going
to
go
over
these
seven
questions,
but
mostly
on
The
Intercept
time
focus
on
the
third
one,
which
is
something
that's
been
mentioned
in
previous
meetings.
That
seems
to
be
of
importance
which
properties
is
the
city
still
own.
V
There's
much
greater
detail,
we'll
come
back
to
that
in
an
executive
report
with
lots
of
graphics
and
all
the
data
and
analyzes
and
visualizations,
and
also
in
a
companion
paper
that
goes
with
this
some
acknowledgments.
First,
all
of
our
data,
analyzes
use
content
and
data
from
Asheville
the
land
acquisition
files
at
UNC,
Asheville
and
and
the
rest
of
the
data
is
from
the
county.
It's
Duncan
County
GIS
both
parcel
ownership
and
property
cards
in
Duncan,
County
Register
of
Deeds
information.
V
So
before
I
get
started
a
a
challenge
I
have
to
mention
the
biggest
challenge
has
been
connecting
the
pre
and
post
organ
renewal
data,
so
I'm
going
to
pick
just
one
property
quickly
to
illustrate
why
this
is
a
huge
challenge.
If
you
look
on
the
right
at
10,
Gillian
place,
that's
between
South
French,
Broad
and
Blanton,
just
north
of
Pfeiffer.
That's
that
blue
kind
of
shoe-like
parcel!
V
That's
the
current
property!
If
you
go
back
on
the
left.
Q
V
That
the
study
we
did
was
was
in
June
2022,
Last
Summer.
If
you
go
back
to
the
left,
you'll
see
June
1965..
So
what
you
should
notice
here
is
that
in
1965
there
were
eight
properties
that
overlapped
with
10
billion
place,
I
I
list
the
owners
there
and
some
pictures
so
four
located
on
South,
Grove,
Street
and
four
located
on
Blanton
Street
and,
of
course,
neither
do
South
Grove
Street,
nor
do
it
Street
exist
anymore.
V
So
so
that's
one
of
the
challenges
of
relating
the
present
from
things
that
are
now
obscured
very
often
or
even
invisible.
How
did
we
solve
that?
Well,
our
solution
was
to
calculate
this.
Is
this?
This
slide
is
a
little
more
technical,
but
it's
kind
of
behind
the
scenes
to
calculate
percentages
of
parcel
overlap.
V
doing
that
that
kind
of
calculation-
that's
automated
or
for
modern
current
Parcels
in
Asheville,
allows
us
to
tell
kind
of
the
origin
story
of
all
the
current
parcels
and
connect
the
past
and
present.
That's
really
been.
What's
been
missing
and
now
that
we've
been
able
to
solve
that,
we
can
ask
all
kinds
of
research
questions
such
as
the
preliminary
questions.
We're
sharing
with
you
tonight
so
really.
V
What
you
learned
by
by
doing
this
kind
of
mapping
is
that
10
billion
place
was
repackaged
over
a
six-year
period
from
68
to
75,
using
eight
acquisition
Parcels
at
a
calculated
purchase
costs
of
twenty
three
thousand
dollars.
It
was
resold
three
years
later
in
78
or
54.
V
V
So
this
is
what
we
did.
We
essentially
did
this
kind
of
not
being
intersection
percentage
overlap,
not
just
for
the
yellow
property
deck,
but
for
all
224
current
Parcels
connecting
them
to
the
930
acquisition
Parcels
in
our
database.
V
So
let's,
let's
tackle
the
questions
now.
V
Renewal,
well,
you
saw
that
in
Young's
presentation
from
our
database
we
can
draw
a
list
of
all
the
former
owners
and
renters,
so
this
potentially
speaks
to
the
question
of
who
was
affected
or
who
was
harmed.
We
can
identify
individual
sick
families
B.
How
much
did
the
city
of
Asheville
pay
for
urban
renewal
properties?
So
we
have
lots
of
Graphics,
but
here's
an
executive
summary.
The
total
acquisition
parcel
was
a
little
over
six
million
dollars
across
all
930
acquisition
parcels.
V
So
it
really
shows
you
kind
of
the
range
of
where
properties
were
purchased,
see
which
properties
is
a
City
sell
own.
So,
in
in
to
answer
this
question,
we
went
back
to
one
additional
city
data
set.
This
was
something
published:
June
3rd
2021
by
the
city
of
Asheville,
and
they
released
a
story
map
website
showing
all
the
city-owned
properties
that
came
from
urban
renewal.
V
If
we
go
to
that
website
on
the
left,
you
see
that
there
are
13
properties
based
according
to
the
city
on
the
south
side
that
are
still
owned
by
the
city.
So
we
took
those
are
the
orange
and
then
one
fuchsia
parcel
on
the
left.
So
we
took
those
13
Parcels
dropped
them
on
our
lap
and
we
also
use
the
1963
Asheville
historical
city
directory
or
phone
book.
So.
V
To
show
you
in
the
next
minute
or
two
we're
going
to
zoom
into
one
of
those
13
Parcels
parcel
number
four
on
the
right,
the
one
that's
fuchsia
colored,
so
that's
zooming
into
parcel
City
parcel
number
four,
also
known
as
future
nasty
Branch
Greenway.
As
of
June
2022,
it
appeared
to
be
vacant,
that's
located
along
the
Town
Branch
Greenway
bounded
by
South
French,
Broad
Avenue
in
Congress,
Street
and
Gaston
Street,
West
and
East,
and
Choctaw
Street,
Livingston,
Livingston,
Street,
North
and
South.
As
you
know,
it's
it's
just
north
of
the
former
Livingston
Street
School.
V
V
These
include
grocery
stores,
churches,
restaurants,
Beauty,
parlors,
barber
shops,
Etc.
If
you
look
at
the
impact
of
City
parcel
number
four
on
the
loss
of
homes
from
our
database,
we
identify
34
acquisition
Parcels.
We
showed
the
pictures
of
the
homes
and
there's
some
absolutely
beautiful
homes
here,
it's
a
pristine
properties.
V
V
This
represents
18
of
the
original
pool
of
the
930
acquisition
parcels.
So
it's
really
significant
and
it
puts
things
in
a
different
perspective.
If
we
go
one
step
further
and
we
look
at
Housing
Authority
of
City
Nashville,
not
gonna
own
properties,
there's
seven
of
them.
Of
course,
you
recognize
Earth's
skin
Livingston,
Heights,
Walter,
Livingston,
Street
Etc.
If
you
take
those
seven
parcels,
they
intersect
to
overlap
with
147,
formerly
acquisition
or
acquisition
Parcels.
That's
an
additional
16
of
the
original
pool
of
930
acquisition
parcels.
V
So
if
you
combine
those
two
effects
of
AKA
owned
and
city-owned
properties,
there's
a
34
combined
in
urban
renewal
impact.
This
is
just
for
20,
modern
or
current
Parcels.
So
those
Parcels
were
repackaged
during
urban
renewal
into
these
very,
very
large
chunks
that
they
overlap
with
360
new
properties.
V
This
represents
over
a
third
of
the
original
pool
of
930
acquisition
parcels.
So
the
group
believes
that
this
is
really
an
indication
of
the
depth
of
the
legacy
of
urban
renewal
at
Asheville.
It's
not
a
few
Parcels,
it's
a
few
modern
Parcels,
but
over
a
third
of
the
original
pool
that
is
still
owned,
or
least
controlled.
V
Okay,
I'm
going
to
move
a
little
faster
here,
because
we
only
have
15
minutes
left.
How
much
are
those
properties
now
worth?
We
did
a
systematic
analysis
and
came
up
with
about
a
400
percent
increase
in
valuation
of
these
current
224
Parcels
since
urban
renewal.
This
is
after
inflation
adjustment.
We
use
inflation
adjustment
calculators,
and
this
is
all
based
on
Bumpkin
County's
parcel
ownership
dashboard.
V
V
This
indicates
that
urban
renewal
really
deprived
the
South
Side
homeowners
of
a
significant
source
of
intergenerational
wealth
and
for
the
first
time
we
have
data
in
numbers
that
can
be
audited
and
looked
at
and
examined,
and
we
can
ask
other
types
of
questions
e.
This
is
this
was
an
interesting
question.
We
were
asked:
when
did
the
city
start
reselling
these
properties?
So
so
the
process
was
repackaging
all
the
acquisition
properties
into
larger
chunks.
That's
the
224
and
the
city
in
Haka,
primarily
hakka,
but
also
the
city
resold,
repat,
these
repackaged
and
reconfigured
Parcels.
V
So,
while
86
of
the
repackaged
parcels
were
resold
immediately
or
very
quickly
in
the
70s
and
80s
there's
another
14
percent
that
was
offloaded
in
the
90s,
2000s
and
2010s,
this
is
really
worth
looking
at
and
I'm
going
to
finish
with
another
question,
or
so
we
call
the
first
round
beneficiaries
of
the
reselling
of
these
repackaged
properties.
Repurchasers
and
I'll
show
you
why
that
that
matters
next,
so
before
I.
Do
that
one
more
one,
more
research
question:
how
much
were
these
properties
we
sold
for?
This
was
a
very
surprising
finding.
V
The
repackaged
Marshalls
were
resold
at
discounted
prices.
The
median
value
of
the
resold
parcels
was
less
than
a
fifth
of
their
acquisition
value.
V
V
In
the
total
resale,
Revenue
was
only
three
million
dollars,
as
opposed
to
over
six
million
dollars
for
the
acquisition,
and
this
is
I
think
our
last
our
last
question,
who
was
able
to
repurchase
these
properties.
So
we
did
an
analysis
of
the
first
round.
It's
almost
like
the
first
stock
buyers,
the
first
round
of
repurchasers
categorized
them
as
follows:
46
percent
of
them
were
individuals.
40
percent
of
them
were
businesses.
V
The
city
shows
up
seven
percent
of
the
time
how
it
get
three
percent
of
the
time
church
is
three
percent
County
one
percent
out
of
the
224
repackage
Parcels.
There
were
152
unique
repurchasers,
which
means
you
had
serial
buyers
or
people
who
bought
many
properties
in
the
top
10
repurchasers,
the
top
10
repurchasers
were
responsible
for
buying
almost
a
third
of
all
224
repackaged
parcels.
V
They
were
real
estate,
businesses,
property
management,
businesses,
companies,
Etc
only
14
individuals
who
lost
their
property
in
the
South
Side
based
on
our
database
were
able
to
come
back
in
the
first
round
and
repurchase
a
property
we
saw
one
of
them
I
think
now
it's
spelling
that
category
or
family
after
losing
their
property.
These
14
individuals
represent
nine
percent
of
the
152
unique
repurchases.
V
G
Includes
our
presentation,
you
can
find
more
information,
more
specific
information
at
Urban
renewalimpact.org.
Again,
that's
Urban
renewalimpact.org
focus
on
the
south
side,
because
that's
where
I
was
born
and
raised,
and
it
just
it,
captured
my
attention.
As
I
looked
at
the
urban
renewal
files
at
UNC,
Asheville
special
collection,
you
will
also
find
the
link
to
the
full
executive,
summary
and
resources
that
Dr
messinio
shared
and
again
I.
Thank
you
for
the
replication
commission.
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
mayor
being
here:
the
city
manager
and
the
county
staff.
G
So
before
you
before,
you
leave
Miss
Robinson
I
would
like
to
open
it
up
for
questions.
If
anybody
have
any.
P
I
want
to
tell
you
Miss,
Robinson,
Miss
Priscilla.
Thank
you
for
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
on
this
before
anybody
sat
at
this
table.
I.
Remember
you
sharing
this
presentation
with
those
two
gentlemen
with
me.
It
probably
wasn't
in
the
form
that
it
is
in
now,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say.
Even
then
it
was
sobering,
but
the
work
that
you're
doing
lets
us
know
that
this
work
can
be
done.
P
These
numbers
can
come
out,
it's
not
hard
to
find
average
everyday
lay
folk
can
find
it
and
I'm
just
so
happy
that
people
like
you
are
are
out
there
doing
this.
When
people
aren't
watching
you,
people
aren't
asking
you
to
do
it,
and
and
I
just
really
appreciate
it,
because
it
made
my
job
a
lot
easier
and
just
thank
you.
What
you've
done
was
hella
dope.
I
really
appreciate
it,
but
it's
also
sobering
and
if
nobody
has
ever
told
you,
we
appreciate
you
I
appreciate
you.
So
thank
you.
P
M
M
S
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
time
for
economic
development
and
housing
to
have
a
joint
meeting
and
as
those
things
directly
overlap
and
the
quantification
of
the
loss
together
with
with
the
target,
maybe
say
for
the
future.
If,
if
we
could
link
those
two
groups
together
for
that,
it
would
save
time
for
her
and
and
allow
us
to
work
together
with
profound
numbers.
D
Miss
Robertson
very
much
aware
that
you
did
South
Side
because
it
was
personal
to
you.
That
was
not
the
only
Community
within
the
African-American
Community
to
be
involved
and
to
be
torn
up
with
urban
renewal.
Do
you
have
plans
to
do
any
other
communities.
G
O
G
And
then
you
had
the
you
had
the
Realtors,
you
had
the
homeowners
and
you
had
the
landlords,
and
you
know
I'll
tell
you
this.
This
is
just
my
own
opinion.
The
blighted
homes
that
we
saw
were
a
result
of
Slum
landlords
and
out
of
that,
the
certificate
of
occupancy
was
born.
So
now
today
you
know
the
houses
have
to
be
inspected
and
deemed
liberal
in
livable
conditions.
O
F
G
G
There
was
no
food,
there,
no
one
went
hungry
and
no
one
was
homeless.
It
was
a
community
that
stuck
together
and
and
I.
You
know
I
meant
you
to
say
once
we
integrated
in
other
communities
where
we
would
not
want
it.
So
you
know,
as
I
think
D
Williams
stated
it
was
a
nightmare
Thomas
McCall.
If
you
look
up
his
book,
he
he
named
it
them
and
he
talked
about
how
moving
into
a
Caucasian
community
and
he
would
Peabody
them
and
he
knew
they
were
peeping
out
back
at
them.
G
And
then
another
book
I
would
like
to
recommend
is
Dr.
Mindy
fully
loves
the
book.
She
talks
about
how
pairing
up
Community
impact
the
health,
the
mental
status
I
mean
she
goes
down
the
line
she
she
doesn't
just
focus
on
how
so
that
would
be
a
good
book
to
get
and
to
read,
and
actually
it
would
be
awesome
if
you
could
bring
her
here
to
speak
or
have
her
speak.
G
F
H
Okay,
just
to
move
on
really
quickly,
just
in
the
interest
of
time,
I
think
we're
only
going
to
be
able
to
do
how
I
want
to
give
y'all
an
update
on
Katie
engagement
and
communication,
and
then
we'll
hear
from
public
comment.
H
So
there's
a
flyer,
that's
included
in
y'all's
meeting
packet.
We
also
have
extra
copies
of
this
flyer,
we'll
also
make
it
available
digitally
really.
We
just
wanted
to
show
the
commission
and
show
the
community
that
we
do
want
this
to
be
an
open
process,
and
so
this
flyer
really
just
answers
some
of
the
basic
questions.
What
is
reparations?
What
does
it
mean
for
Asheville
and
welcome
County?
How
can
you
get
involved,
so
we
wanted
to
just
highlight
this
and
we'll
send
it
out.
Also
virtually
it
has
information
about
the
website.
H
It
has
information
about.
You
know
how
you
can
sign
up
to
learn
more
additionally
after
this
I'm
going
to
be
sending
out
a
link
to
commission
members
to
sign
up
for
community
events.
If
you
would
like
to
go-
and
you
know
speak
on
behalf
of
the
commission,
Buncombe
County
is
helping
us
to
organize
almost
I.
Don't
want
to
call
it
a
speaker's
Bureau
but
organize
a
system
to
where
we
can
share
community
events
that
are
happening
so
that.
H
Those
events
you
can
go
and
represent
the
commission,
so
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
send
out
a
link
after
this
meeting
it'll
be
a
sign
up.
You'll
have
all
the
dates
and
the
the
details
of
those
events,
and
then
a
flyer
like
this
would
be
a
tool
that
you
can
take
with
you,
so
that
if
folks
in
the
community
have
questions
about
what
reparations
is,
y'all
will
be
equipped
to
point
them
in
the
right
direction.
J
G
So
we
are
going
to
my
post
around
table
and
move
because
I
want
to
make
sure
we
have
time
for
public
comments
and
to
allow
those
who
have
signed
up
to
speak.
Q
Three
minutes
I'm
familiar,
do
this
at
city
council.
Quite
often
my
name
is
Jonathan.
Wayne,
Scott
and
I've
lived
here
in
Nashville
for
25
years
or
so
last
couple
years,
I've
been
doing
a
deep
dive
in
the
history
of
astrologer
James
to
Black
involvement
in
city
government.
Q
You
hear
a
lot
of
these
states
talking
about
the
urban
renewal
that
took
place
in
the
60s
redlining
Maps
were
drawn
in
the
1930s
Astro
didn't
have
a
black
council
person
until
1969
when
Ruby
daily
was
elected
prior
to
that
Asheville
did
have
one
black
Alderman
and
that
was
Newton
Shepherd.
He
was
elected
in
1881,
1882
and
1883,
which
was
the
1883,
was
the
year
that
Asheville
incorporated
as
a
city.
So
in
that
you're
also
the
police
department
was
formed
and
one
black
officer
was
on
the
force.
Q
Asheville
city
council.
As
we
know,
it,
was
formed
in
1931
and
I've,
calculated
the
amount
of
black
representation
on
this
city
council-
not
the
one
here
today,
but
you
know
this
body
since
1931
and
it
turns
out
that
there's
only
been
8.6
percent
African-American
participation
on
the
city
council
every
year.
Q
That's
it
8.6
of
percent
on
that
body
basically
represents
three-fifths
of
the
person.
That's
all
that's
happening.
Terry
Bellamy
is
responsible
for
25
of
the
African-American
representation
on
city
council,
one
person,
the.
Q
Percent
came
after
Terry
Bellamy,
so
half
of
the
representation
for
blacks
in
Asheville
has
only
come
since
Terry
Bellamy
was
here
so.
Q
Policies
that
allowed
for
all
of
these
things
to
happen
for
urban
renewal
for
sketchy
cos,
and
all
of
that
happened
with
governments
that
were
designed
specifically
to
exclude
black
people,
that
the
formation
of
this
Asheville
City
Council
in
1931
is
surrounded
by
efforts
to
disenfranchise
black
people,
including
repealing
the
absentee
voting
provision
for
the
municipal
election,
specifically
for
Buncombe
County,
two
months
before
the
referendum
that
created
this
government
that
we
have
today
and
I've
done.
A
ton
of
research
around
this
and,
like
I,
said
I
can't
really
spill
it
all
out.
In
three
minutes.
Q
G
You
Robert
Hardy
yeah.
W
I
commend
all
of
you
to
continue
doing
what
you
do
whatever
it
is.
Whatever
gift
you
have
been
given
from
the
most
high
Coalition
issue
is
relevant.
Remember,
you're
speaking,
while
we're
caught
up
in
the
paralysis
of
analysis,
the
more
things
change,
the
more
they
appear
to
remain
the
same
or
the
disadvantage,
condition
franchise.
They
immediately
rearrange
and
remained
the
same
as
he
said
even
worse.
W
The
question
of
later,
that
is,
why
was
the
state
of
black
Asheville
discontinued
at
that
meeting,
which
meals
and
everybody
I
can
be
interrupted
by
the
city's
representative
and
the
county
said
they
didn't?
Have
the
financial
support
of
the
debt?
Well,
Mr
Robinson
just
proved
that
we
have
and
what
we
need
to
do
as
a
community
is
connect
with
Apk
uhca,
Warren,
Wilson
and
all
of
the
Brain
Trust
of
North
Carolina,
to
presume
to
get
the
data
that
we
need.
W
Joking
you're
kidding
yourself,
we
live
in
a
global
economy.
The
infrastructure
that
we
stayed
in
that
meeting
is
going
to
be
very,
very
high
and
there's
no
guarantee
that
you
start
off
with
living
an
affordable
housing
for
the
first
few
years
and
then
because
of
the
nature
of
the
economy,
the
person's
owning
the
house
they're
going
to
want
to
increase
that
price.
So
what
is
Affordable
about
that?
W
So
the
issue
is
that,
as
you
continue
in
your
efforts
and
I,
encourage
you
to
continue
because
I'm
getting
ready
to
take
my
anything
to
work
and
I'm
going
to
present
my
show
as
some
of
the
injustices
of
this
situation
of
urban
renewal
and
even
nowadays,
as
a
test
done,
I'll
assure
you
you
will
not
embarrass
me.
Nothing
won't
make
me
ashamed.
Thank
God.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
G
B
Spoke
for
public
comment.
G
A
little
bit
over
at
eight
o'clock
cut
off
to
listen
to
our
public
comment.
So
I
would
like
to
see
who
would
like
to
make
a
motion.